resources

[violet geyser]

Just white

[haughty ibex]

pfff

[violet geyser]

Thanks anyway. Glad they work on your end

[haughty ibex]

It doesnt work in alot of countries

Ja, no problem

[violet geyser]

See you around

[misty valve]

Sorry but we can't promote pirated materials in this server due to Discord's ToS.

[haughty ibex]

My bad, sorry

[violet geyser]

Okay

I didn't know he/she was talking about pirated stuff till after I clicked. Still I'm not judging

[spiral breach]

Can anybody recommend a good site that gives interesting information about Germany’s Länder in (basic enough) German? (Or English if need be? I’m looking for something specifically meant for German learners...)

[spark spindle]

@spiral breach DW had this, seems simple enough to understand https://www.dw.com/de/die-bundesländer-daten-und-fakten/a-3280930

[sacred jewel]

DW😍

[grand maple]

@haughty ibex can u send me the link in dm's?,

[spiral breach]

Perfect, thanks a ton! 😃 @spark spindle

[grizzled marlin]

Can someone recommend some good books with a lot of grammer? Like a compilation of grammar rules and some other book to practice grammar?

Can be any level

[misty valve]

In the resource list, Basic German and Modern German Grammar are good for reading through.

Hammer's is the best grammar resource, but it has tons of details and advanced topics and it's not that good if you are only a beginner. It's what you use to look up tricky grammar rules and stuff though.

[sharp peak]

Anyone who's familiar with Schaum's Outline of German Grammar who could tell me whether it's good/as good as Basic Grammar? I'm leaning more towards Schaum's because it has audio and I could borrow it from a friend but if Basic Grammar has more thorough/better explanations I might change my mind

[misty valve]

My personal recommendation would be to use both.

[sharp peak]

Great, that's a good idea too. Thank you!

[misty valve]

Yeah, but if you find you like one a lot more or there's any issue, you can always choose to drop the one you like less at that point.

[grand maple]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiu6G5VsBRY-xHnKktFdHbw/videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=1

finally a good youtube recommendation.

clearly spoken german. good animation. great for lerners

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGO3vctQXrJcqxTetRxPeXQ

[brazen lantern]

https://www.munichsupercrew.de/

[obsidian bone]

Is there a new grammar pile?

[median stream]

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/learn-new-languages-wiley-books
So for the next 14 days, Humble Bundle is offering several language learning e-books (several of which are German-focused) at a "Pay what you want" price (1€ minimum).
Ive read some of them before, they're good resources for a beginner. Would reccomend at least checking it out 😊

[sand marten]

I should mention that the For Dummies series isn't usually associated with quality very much :P

of course with the HB pricing formula it may not be a big investment to just try them out, but just saying. Don't expect them to bring you very far or to clear all the doubts that may arise while learning

[misty valve]

My confusion about it is... why do they package 4 languages in one? How many people are likely to be learning more then 1 or 2 of these? Seems a bit weird...

[sand marten]

chances are most people who purchase this do it solely on the vague intention of learning a language, but won't actually get around to do it or will gradually or suddenly give up after starting one of the books

also, by packaging this way they'll nudge people into buying the whole bundle even if they're only interested in one of the languages. They may not be interested in the extra stuff but it will motivate them to pay the price because in a sense, it's still added value

for example i may not be willing to pay 10€ for a videogame right now but i can still be willing to pay the same amount of money for their humble monthly, where i get multiple videogames for that same price, even though i'm only interested in one of those games (which I may even be able to buy elsewhere for 10€)

[median stream]

I think its also to increase the amount of people potentially willing to donate. Theres no downside or cost to them to include the others if itll attract more people

But I found the German for dummies series pretty helpful at getting a grasp on the more technical matters early on. A lot more helpful than the books that were clesrly meant to have a teacher explaining them to you

[viscid quartz]

Cool initiative. I hope they'll do more language-related book offers.

[fierce dirge]

Hallo everyone! I'm in A2 level and need cartoon movies in German to improve my language as basic... Do you have any suggestions?

[kindred junco]

Can anyone recommend a book that prepares you for a C1 goethe prufung?

[sacred jewel]

Fit fürs Goethe Zertifikat, Mit Erfolg zum Goethe Zertifikat @kindred junco

[kindred junco]

that book is from 2007 though

[sacred jewel]

Same version afaik

Did you check the second one?

[kindred junco]

cant find it

[sacred jewel]

https://www.amazon.de/Mit-Erfolg-zum-Goethe-Zertifikat-Audio-CDs/dp/3126758355/ref=pd_aw_sim_14_1/261-9908745-6716606?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=3126758355&pd_rd_r=75d6340a-a7cc-11e9-813b-47196103a6f8&pd_rd_w=rOzZV&pd_rd_wg=6GyOr&pf_rd_p=be282965-be25-4298-9436-17f3f7cfd9e0&pf_rd_r=X79D62ND612VB0AN37YY&psc=1&refRID=X79D62ND612VB0AN37YY

[restive tangle]

Hallo Leute.. Ich heiße Nandini. Ich komme aus Indien.. Können sie mir Bitte empfehlen, wie ich meine Vokabeln verbessern kann ?

Can anyone tellme or share infos about Karneval fest in Deutschland ? Keen to learn Deutschland culture..

[grand maple]

@restive tangle that depends on your level. if you are just starting out. then vocabulary lists like on Nicos Weg website are good. if you are a bit advanced, then read beginner stories on apps like "Beelingua" and mark down any words you dont know and learn them.

https://de.langenscheidt.com

a dictionary to look at the meaing of the words you find.

and i have no idea about the Karneval thing

[next timber]

Hey if anyone would like to do a sort of epenpal with me that would be super awesome. I’m a very beginner German speaker but I can teach English and Japanese in return!

Actually more like someone to chat with rather than a pen pal

[restive tangle]

Thanks @hippoprofi.. I am currently persuing B2.. I need the more of speaking interaction.. I can perhaps as well write on a daily basis.. Would you be my penpal ? Just wondering.. I really want to sharpen my speaking and writinf skills..

[grand maple]

@restive tangle yah idm

for writing practice, the mod Pferd also posts sentences on practice every sundays. u can subscribe to them by typing a command.

subscribe writing

wait no.

shit m bad at remembering commands

@sleek holly do you remember the command to subscribe to pferds sunday sentences?

nvm got it.

jus type ">sub translation"

[past spear]

sub translation

[grand maple]

@past spear workds only in Botchanne

l

[steel hawk]

Low level reading resources? Stories, News, articles or magazines (free would be nice)

[sand marten]

https://www.nachrichtenleicht.de/

[steel hawk]

thanks

[weary moth]

This is the registration page for harry gefangen in der seit, A mini web series (In german) which claims to take you from A1 to B1.

http://harry.dw.com/register/register?0

[sullen current]

Hi anyone knows a german equivalent of WordWeb software ?

WordWeb allows one click look up of words' meanings, but only available for English.

[grand maple]

get the reverso google chrome extension. @sullen current i have it but hardly use it. i jus use a dictionary more

[sullen current]

Thanks @grand maple ! will give it a try.

[grand maple]

@sullen current btw i have no idea what Wordweb is, but it sounds like a software where we can hoghlight a word or something and it gives us the meaning if you are on any website

[sullen current]

@grand maple WordWeb pops up with the meaning of the work when you CTRL + right_click on any word (on browser or document). So, extremely user friendly.

I guess reverso has the hot key (ctrl+alt+t) to look up a word. Wish it had a CTRL + right_click hotkey. Makes life easier.

[grand maple]

no u can jus highlight the word

and the reverso symbol shows up at the end of the word

which u can click to get the meaning

so kind of similar to the Wordweb software

for example; Pferd

[sullen current]

That's strange. I am not getting the icon just highlighting the word.

[grand maple]

did u get the extension in the browser?

[sullen current]

Yes

[grand maple]

try for checking for a button to "switch on" or "enable" it then

[sullen current]

I get this when I highlight and then press the hotkey

[grand maple]

maybe its off by default

[sullen current]

can you post the screenshot just highlighting the word?

[grand maple]

yah sure

jus a min

@sullen current

btw check your Reverso settings n ticnker with the "preferred shortcut"

[sullen current]

That was set to icon next to word by default

The problem was with Activate in pages in your native language setting

sorted now. Thank you again.

[grand maple]

np

[sullen current]

I love the double click for now. but would be painful for hyperlinks.

[wicked karma]

https://www.twitch.tv/directory/all/tags/9166ad14-41f1-4b04-a3b8-c8eb838c6be6

[grand maple]

btw. for for listening stuff. the dubbed series on "b s . t o" are available in both english n german. so u can wach south park or soemthing in german and if u dont understand something jus keep the english link open on the side and listen from there what the dialouge meant. no subtitles there tho.

[tiny abyss]

Hey guys, does anyone know good anki decks

For A1-A2

[wind urchin]

Im using A2 wordlister goethe. But it has errors. @tiny abyss

Also the A1 list from wico weg deck

If you can't find these ping me tomorrow and I'll try to send you the link

[sour crow]

Hey guys, I haven't been active in this Discord lately, but I created this website to help everybody learning German. It gives you a new German word to learn everyday along with the English translation, if the word is a noun, verb, etc... as well as an example sentence.

I hope it can help some of you :)

https://germanwordaday.info/

[gilded hare]

Es würde hilfreich sein, wenn die Website auch die verschiedenen Flexionen der Wörter zeigten

zB 1., 2. und 3. Person und Präsens und Präterium

[sand marten]

dict.leo.org macht das

und auch verbformen.de

[gilded hare]

Ich nutze oft Wiktionary

[sand marten]

funktioniert auch, wenn ein Eintrag schon da ist

[grand maple]

^^ i swear so many words are missing on that website lol

but i realise that its indivudual people filling it up so it takes time

[wind flame]

Hey, does anyone know best audio tapes I can listen to in my car on my moring commute if I am still relatively new?

[misty valve]

Depends what you are looking for. There are youtube channels aimed at learners such as Easy German. You could use that kind of thing. Or look for audiobooks for children's books.

But if you are super new, and have not yet practiced listening much, honestly you will probably not understand much either way. If you want, you can just listen to any clearly-spoken German and it will be good experience, even if you don't understand yet.

[sand marten]

podcasts too, though i'd recommend leaving them for later unless you find something aimed at learners

[wind flame]

Ok thanks, I've been trying to just listen to german radio but thought maybe a more focused lesson would be better

[misty valve]

Up to you. You can experiment and try different things. But as long as the words are fairly clear (not mumbling or anything), then it should be good practice.

Basically, it takes a while for your brain to learn to differentiate the sounds for another language. Even when you know a fair bit of vocab, it may still take some listening experience before you can recognize the sounds. It's a bit like a muscle memory sort of thing.

[sand marten]

notably though, you learn more accurately and more quickly if you 1. know how a sound is written (so, at least initially, follow along with transcriptions, and practise transcribing what you hear yourself), 2. try to repeat the words you hear.
Of course you can't do 1 while driving but do it at home and be sure to do 2 in the car. Don't repeat all the words but those that sound interesting, new or hard to you

your brain will connect the sound stimuli with the motions needed to repeat the sounds and the images of the text with which those sounds are written, making you remember them more easily and precisely in the process

[misty valve]

Yeah, that's good advice. But also, even if you don't understand the whole text, recognizing individual words is also good for practice.

[sand marten]

oh yeah I meant merely in terms of connecting text with sound. In this case, understanding what is being said is secondary

[wind flame]

Thank you friends

[wicked karma]

michel thomas is pretty chill

he taught me the basics in spanish too

[carmine canopy]

Does anyone have a good grammar source? A course or something?

[viscid quartz]

What's your level?

[carmine canopy]

A2

But I want a complete grammar source

[sand marten]

you're unlikely to find a course that goes A1 to C2

the resource list includes at least two good reference books though

[carmine canopy]

Okay I'll check! :)

[hybrid kestrel]

https://deutschkurse-passau.de/JM/images/stories/LISTEN/listen-tabellen.pdf

lots of useful info for people around B1/B2

[civic wigeon]

Hallo! Gibt es ein medizinischen Wortschatz den sie kennen? Nächtes Jahr studiere ich Medizine in Deutschland und ich kenne keinen specifische Wortschatz

[sacred jewel]

Wahrscheinlich @hybrid kestrel

[grand maple]

he is gonna throw an entire book of medical terms at him lol. he is done.

[hybrid kestrel]

not really

i dont like highschoolers

i dont even know what he needs to learn

[civic wigeon]

I am just asking about a glossary of medical terms such as diarrhea and so on, I am not a highschooler! But in order to ask patients and write down their clinical cases It could be very useful!

[hybrid kestrel]

@civic wigeon send me a private message when you have some free time, we will figure something out

[carmine canopy]

https://1000mostcommonwords.com/1000-most-common-german-words/ --> knowing at least 1000 common words

[thin scroll]

Hallo leute! Kann ich finde ein deustch lehrer (to practice with, on the lessons channel). Das wurde (be) sehr (effective than) ein gruppe wier noch sprichst (to) langsam lernen

[spiral breach]

@hybrid kestrel Hey, do you have a Deutschkurs Passau PDF like the one you attached earlier, but for A1/A2?

[hybrid kestrel]

nöp

[spiral breach]

ah ok danke

[misty valve]

Here are some kids websites some people might like to use:
https://www.wasistwas.de/home.html
https://www.kindernetz.de/

[wide pumice]

Danke

[tacit summit]

Its paid but I'd definitely recommend supermemo.com

I've been using it for a while and its a great way to learn for complete beginners and intermediates

[grizzled marlin]

Are there any German youtube channels with proper German subtitles? Like Easy German?

[grand maple]

Hier ist Arnold
@grizzled marlin

[grizzled marlin]

okay danke ❤

[dawn dirge]

Hi all, I'm looking for a self learning textbook (in english) that will provide all the vocabulary and grammar required for sitting the A1 german test

Any recommendations?

[carmine summit]

@dawn dirge if you look at the pinned messages for this channel (top right) the very first one you see links to a Google doc with pretty much all this discord's resources including multiple PDFs of grammar and vocab workbooks (for A1 and more)

[paper sedge]

😍

Thank you

[grand maple]

@carmine canopy @paper sedge copy the link somehwere if u want to, those kinda links arent allowed and the mods will take it down

and delete the message

[carmine canopy]

yeah sorry I'd love to have it stay but sadly discord is super strict when it comes to pirated content. I'll pretend this link isn't there for the next few hours to give people time to copy it, though

[paper sedge]

OOF

Thank you very much, monk for informing me and quinke for pretending it's not here! >~<

I'll copy it somewhere rn

💯

[carmine canopy]

Oh wow I didn't know

@grand maple
Should I delete it or let it stay a bit?

[paper sedge]

The mod said he will leave it for a bit for people to have the chance to find it and copy it somewhere so I assume he'll delete it in a bit

[grand maple]

^^

[carmine canopy]

Ah okay

I do have a legal site tho so might as well link it to make up for that

[grand maple]

This might be a new one..... Only knew burning series till now.

[carmine canopy]

https://www.zdf.de/serien

[grand maple]

Oh yah this one too. Lol. Btw on this one u can search for only subtitled videos.

[carmine canopy]

For some you need vpn

Also some series you can only watch after 10 pm or you have to provide some ids that you are older than 16 ;-;

And those are good ones!

[grand maple]

Dafuq lol

[carmine canopy]

Yeah

Also one more legal

https://www.ardmediathek.de/ard/

[paper sedge]

Oh, I know the last one. I watch Tatort on it

Thank you for the new links

👍

[south heart]

@carmine canopy Anzeige ist raus

[carmine canopy]

[wicked karma]

@grizzled marlin youglish.com/german only uses subtitles that are not auto-generated

[grand maple]

Holy damn thats a good website

@wicked karma

Thnaks for sharing

[paper sedge]

😍

Thank you

[spiral breach]

Wow that is literally magic lmao

❤️ danke

[wicked karma]

yay!

[grand maple]

i think it woud be a great help for future learners if mods added youglish.com and "b s . t o" to the google resources doc.

there are always people looking for content.

[carmine canopy]

we won't be adding bs.to to our resource list. Unfortunately, we can't endorse pirated content as it violates discord's and google's ToS

[grand maple]

oh okkay. i thought the problem was only typing it out here. kay np👌🏻

[spare cliff]

not only that, in Germany if you watch pirated content without a VPN.... You're likely to be fined to oblivion.

[grand maple]

as someone who has never paid for any media i have ever consumed. thats a bit worrying. lol

[spare cliff]

It happened to me and since then I have never pirated a damn thing lol

[grand maple]

how much was the fine?

[spare cliff]

€1,000 per film

[sacred jewel]

Really? 😐

[spare cliff]

Yeah, I watched 2 films facepalm

Sued by 20th Century Fox Entertainment

Stupid really

[lime lark]

they've been starting to care recently

[spare cliff]

I had to pay for a lawyer and luckily he was able to get the fine down, I was also unemployed at the time

I shat myself lol

[lime lark]

how did you even get the notice

did you just get a letter or smth

[sacred jewel]

Oh it isn’t that bad. At least you didnt build an archive like imdb top 250 or sth 😄

[spare cliff]

Dealing with criminal charges and lawyers in a foreign country and in another language is a good way to learn german though

haha

No I was living in Hamburg at the time, registered with a proper address and they were able to trace me through my IP address

Just be careful

[grand maple]

fuck greedy corporations

[spare cliff]

The worst thing was, I didn't even like the films.

😂

[sand marten]

lol

get a vpn tho, seriously 👀

[spare cliff]

haha, I've gone one better. I just don't pirate anything anymore.

[grand maple]

man that sounds traumatic.

u shud start out slowly again. first by torrenting win rar

[spare cliff]

lmfao

I'm now also on a pirating watch list in germany, so if I get caught again I am insta fined €5k... I'll give that a miss.

I think it lasts like 20 years or some shit

[carmine canopy]

yeah germany takes these things quite seriously

[spare cliff]

As I found out, I'd expect some sort of warning first and then if you carried on you are fined. But not in Germany, they just make examples of everyone lol

[sacred jewel]

You are a criminal now 😎 I’m fine with my very limited Netflix content anyway, even in Turkey

[spare cliff]

Actually, I'm not. I was not charged, just fined.

[sacred jewel]

Oh

[spare cliff]

I will be charged if I do it again though

[sacred jewel]

Time to sell films aufm schwarzmarkt (just kidding pls no fines)

[spare cliff]

or buy them... Someone else can risk downloading them haha

j/k of course 😄

. o O ( If the BND are listening ).

[spare cliff]

Gibt es gute neue deutsche Musik, die ihr mir empfehlen könntet?

adjective deklination = not my strong point

[grand maple]

*könntet

ur declination is correct tho ol

*lol

[spare cliff]

ahaha, typical

[carmine canopy]

Does anyone have B2-C1 resources?

[pseudo junco]

Where can I take a test to determine what level (A, B) in German I am?

[carmine canopy]

if you think you're between A1 and B1 use this: https://learngerman.dw.com/en/placementDashboard

or use Goethe's Placement Test: https://www.goethe.de/en/spr/kup/tsd.html

[pseudo junco]

Thanks

[carmine canopy]

@spare cliff
Try alligatoah and santiano

[spare cliff]

I need a face - haha das gefaellt mir

[frail lintel]

I think I will go visit a local bookshop tomorrow, but maybe you can recommend some exercises online for approximately B1 level?

[carmine canopy]

https://www.dw.com/en/learn-german/level-b1/s-13229

[frail lintel]

I think they dont sell books, just courses?

[grand maple]

yes

they dont sell books

jus online courses

[unborn dagger]

Does anyone have resource to help with pronunciation? My pronunciation isn't that bad but someone told me my ü and ö sound off and I want to practice more since why not

[wind urchin]

I'll try to remember tomorrow, ping me in 12 hours if I forget @unborn dagger

[spiral breach]

@unborn dagger forvo.com and dict.cc are wonderful websites that offer pronunciations of many words in many languages, German included

I recommend it strongly

[sand marten]

have you checked >faq pronunciation? Learning technical details on the specific sounds you have trouble with can help a lot—it's how I solved all the problems I had with pronunciation

[unborn dagger]

Thanks @spiral breach and @sand marten ! I'm looking into your advice now

[spiral breach]

Np 😃

[carmine canopy]

has anyone got a good handout on Futur I?

[sand marten]

what do you need to know? It's a rather simple tense, conceptually

(conjugated werden + infinitive of the other verb, and you're done)

[misty valve]

Maybe this: http://www.nthuleen.com/teach/grammar/futur.html

[hushed silo]

the hardest part about it honestly is wrapping your head around how rarely you actually are supposed to use it

[sand marten]

I find myself using it relatively often, but maybe that's because I don't have informal conversations in german very often

[idle thunder]

what's your go-to resource to get examples of verbs etc in sentences?

[sacred jewel]

Dwds, duden, reverso context

[grand maple]

wiktionary

for me is go to.

if i cant find stuff there then dwds

[idle thunder]

thanks! 👌

[sand marten]

linguee

google even

[misty valve]

Yep, all the websites mentioned are good options, but they tend to have different pros/cons to them. Wiktionary and linguee both have sentences specifically written to show how the words work. Although wiktionary isn't as complete as other dictionaries in terms of quantity of entries/examples.

dwds and Duden usually have phrases as examples, but not always complete sentences. Reverso Context might not be the best tool because I don't think the entries are curated or written specifically as examples, but just tons of random sentences, so the usages are sometimes weird/complex.

Linguee actually has the curated/specific sentences as well as the random examples like Reverso Context, so it might be the best option.

[idle thunder]

true that counts a lot
some of these websites have automated the search for examples, so from time to time u get some weird sentences/translations that dont quite fit

[grand maple]

used to use linguee a lot, but then made the switch to wiktionary. somehow feels more reliable/official, and covers all the meanings a verb can have

and plus with wiktionary, its monolingual

actually yah, first you should decide whether you want a monolingual (only german website) or an english-german sentence website

so i guess to summarize

german only sentences. no english translations for contexts:

1. wiktionary
2. dwds
3. duden

german sentences with english translations for context

1. linguee
2. langenscheidt online
3. Leo(?)
4. reverso context

[the bullet points dont reflect rankings. read base's comment above for more info about them]

[idle thunder]

cool thanks a lot

I'm trying to use german-german as often as possible, but sometimes it's difficult to get the meaning from the german definition

cause often on the definition there's also a word that I dont know lmao

[grand maple]

yah same

jus keep deepl open on the side

[misty valve]

Yeah, wiktionary is definitely really good if it actually has an entry for something. It has tons of really useful tips for words with specific usages.

But still, it doesn't have all the info for every word, unfortunately.

[hushed silo]

wiktionary. somehow feels more reliable/official
I guess for German it’s alright. but in general, wiktionary is pretty low quality, often things are unsourced and dubious, especially for things like etymologies or in lesser known languages

[misty valve]

That's true too. With most other dictionaries mentioned, you can generally presume the content is added through a consistent process by the same people or whatever. Wiktionary has more randomness to how entries are created and managed.

But the information there can still be super useful, and you can always double check it with a native speaker or secondary source.

[copper thunder]

Is there any really good videos on how to say the German/French 'R' ?

[hushed silo]

they’re not the same

[sand marten]

in the case of hochdeutsch, they are. Voiced uvular fricative

i do perceive them as somewhat different but it must be some other detail. The place and method of articulation are the same

[hushed silo]

I learned and have always heard the french one to be at least lightly trilled

while the german one is closer to an approximant

[copper thunder]

I got it from a video where the person said something like "The german R but more commonly known as the french R"

[sand marten]

well it's a rather pointless distinction/parallel anyway, since languages don't depend on one another. The point here is that you have to learn how to say the german one. :>
I don't have a video for you but you can type >faq pronunciation into #botchannel and see if that helps. Believe it or not, i learned pronunciation by mostly studying the theory (and practising)

[unborn dagger]

Guys, ich bitte um eure Hilfe. Ich möchte wie man streiten auf Deutsch kann. Eine Stellungnahme wird widerspruchsfrei sein soll. Wie kann ich das lernen? Ich diskutiere gerne auf Englisch aber die Fähigkeit sollte auf Deutsch auch so beherrscht.

[hybrid kestrel]

@unborn dagger open a random B2 book for german

like aspekte neu or smth

or ping me in 15 mins ill make some photos of mine

[unborn dagger]

But it doesn't help, I have the Redemittel but I have no example to follow

[hybrid kestrel]

oh

[unborn dagger]

I have the Aspekte neu b2 both parts and the b1 spektrum from Schubert

[hybrid kestrel]

Maybe think of some controversial topics and write a few Stellungnahme, post it in #writing for some native to check it?

[unborn dagger]

Aight aight I'll try that, it was my next step. I'm going to draft an English piece first then try my best at writing it in German then see where I need work

Vielen Dank!

[copper thunder]

@static wind I crashed but here it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-qjyb9AsqM

[thin scroll]

Who's a beginner here? let's learn together

It's gonna help in the sense that we will share materials and check one another's progress

[halcyon wraith]

I'm down, only been studying for about 5 days.

[carmine canopy]

i'm a beginner as well :)

[frail nacelle]

👆

[random star]

never spoke a word with anyone in german, but really want to 😃

[carmine canopy]

Beginner here 🙋‍♀️

[rugged nest]

any online websites to learn german for free?

[grand maple]

@rugged nest Nicos Weg A1- B1 course on Deutsche Welle Website

[twilit bone]

Do you guys think duolingo is a good resource? because i'm just starting to use it. (beginner here).

[grand maple]

yes only for starting out

ditch it later

[halcyon wraith]

I've heard a lot of mixed opinions, what prof said.

[carmine canopy]

ex duolingo

Um

[hushed silo]

probably turned off here cause this is not a discussion channel

[misty valve]

Yes, as it says in #282831147942281216 : Ignored channels: #introductions, #writing, #resources, #anderesprachen, #suggestions (The bot won't accept commands in these.)

I guess that's not accurate since we have bots in #suggestions 🤔

[sand marten]

Why is anderesprachen ignored

[carmine canopy]

#suggestions used to be ignored but then I lifted that restriction. I should probably update #282831147942281216 to reflect that

[grand maple]

[1] Aber die Debatte wabert permanent durchs Tal

is "durchs Tal wabern" a redewendung?

[carmine canopy]

nope

[grand maple]

ah shit wrong channel.... can u reply in questions how this makes sense tho?

[carmine canopy]

Does anyone have any resources on German podcasts?

[spiral breach]

@carmine canopy Slow German with Annik Rubens is a favourite of mine. It discusses a wide variety of topics concerning Germany and German culture, and also includes a transcript of every episode.

[carmine canopy]

@carmine canopy our curated list has tons of podcasts

[halcyon wraith]

Of the listed grammar resources, which ones would y'all recommend for someone who is very bad with grammar and needs to look up what a noun is every 3 hours? Clicking around the list it seems like germanveryeasy.com is the simplest.

[misty valve]

I would personally recommend to get comfortable browsing different resources.

Sometimes one website sucks at explaining something, while another explains it perfectly, but then for another topic, it can be the other way around.

[halcyon wraith]

I see, will do.

[misty valve]

So if you just look at some sites/pdfs/whatever, see which ones you like, and then when one doesnt work, check another.

[halcyon wraith]

Do you have a personal top 3?

[misty valve]

http://germanforenglishspeakers.com/ has some good lists and charts but not in depth explanations.
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~deutsch/Grammatik/Grammatik.html is really good.
https://resources.german.lsa.umich.edu/grammatik/ is really good.
http://www.nthuleen.com/teach/grammar.html has great worksheets and some of the handouts include explanations and stuff.

[halcyon wraith]

Awesome, thank you

[misty valve]

And check the link for Basic German in the resource list.

[halcyon wraith]

Danke schön

[keen plover]

Könnt ihr bitte mir eine Serie im Das Erste Mediathek empfehlen ? Ich bin A2-B1.Und ich bin auch offen für andere Empfehlungen.

[reef blaze]

anyone knows google translate analog with transcriptions?

[quasi cypress]

https://german.net/reading/
deutsche Texte zum Lesen für verschiedene Niveaus A1 A2 B1

[unborn dagger]

Hey guys! I'm looking for advanced reading resources. Something in the range of B2 or C1, to really work on my reading comprehension. If anyone has amy hints on where to look, please let me know

[grand maple]

Beelingua app

[unborn dagger]

Okko I'll get it

[misty valve]

For B2+ I think novels are the best option.

Maybe if you have a specific genre you like, someone can recommend novels.

[unborn dagger]

I'll be working on that after my exam, for now I need more variety and more sachlich material

Like articles about Umweltschutz, research about brain studies, things that you'd hear about in university

[grand maple]

You can do one thing...... Unis upload the name of the books one needs for their studies...... Select a random course from a random uni....... Look at the german books name..... Look it up on libgen

@unborn dagger .

Or jus straight up search for german bio books on google

And then look up on libgen.

Whatever floats ur boat

[unborn dagger]

I'll see, I think libgen is not allowed in Germany

[grand maple]

ya its not

use vpn

if u have one

[cold horizon]

Hi everyone

[proper condor]

hey peeps :)

[hushed silo]

huh interesting, libgen is perfectly legal in switzerland

since you only download

[grand maple]

How though? One is downloading pirated stuff through libgen

N btw i assumed above that libgen is illegal..... Since we aren't allowed to post links here.... And piracy is anyways illegal...... However now that ur saying that libgen specifically is legal in switzerland..... Might be legal in germany too

[hushed silo]

in switzerland, downloading copyrighted things is not illegal, only sharing them

meaning libgen is legal, but torrents aren’t

posting links to libgen here is not allowed because of discord’s terms of service, which specify you’re not allowed to share copyrighted material over discord

well… sharing links to libgen would be a grey zone, but I assume the mods don’t want to deal with the grey zone and probably forbid it

[grand maple]

Hmm..... But about germany, there was a person here who was saying he was fined 5000 euros for downloading pirated material. Which would mean germany has restrictions on sharing as well as downloading...... Which would put libgen under the banned category no?

[sand marten]

now that ur saying that libgen specifically is legal in switzerland..... Might be legal in germany too
there are zero reasons why something being done a certain way in switzerland should be the same in germany

[hushed silo]

yea, and switzerland is generally much more liberal with these things than germany

[unborn dagger]

Dude Gutenber doesn't even work in Germany

[sand marten]

that's an entirely different story

[unborn dagger]

Just because some books haven't entered the public domain in Germany, but they have in the USA, a German law firm decided to sue them. So they just blocked all German ips from accessing the website

[carmine canopy]

gutenberg has nothing to do with that

[unborn dagger]

Yeah but a bit extreme to go out and attack such an org that actually wants to make reading more accessible

[sand marten]

it was a firm, not the german government or anything like that

one may say the reaction by gutenberg was too extreme, although i do understand and agree with it personally

[unborn dagger]

I sort of fault Gutenberg there too

Yeah

We say, the door which brings you wind, shut it and have peace

[grand maple]

Gutenburgs collection is nothing compared to libgen

[sand marten]

it was greed by a private firm that motivated the "attack" and a will to avoid any such trouble in the future that motivated the defence. German law was nothing more than the wielded weapon there, not the real reason why anything happened. It's nothing to do with piracy

[grand maple]

If libgens legal, i wud suggest jus go there

[unborn dagger]

I agree brzrkr, didn't say otherwise. It just irritates me that I don't have access to classics anymore...

I'll look into it @grand maple

[carmine canopy]

you can still use Project Gutenberg-DE, which is hosted by spiegel.de

[sand marten]

oh didn't know that existed

qool

[carmine canopy]

-> https://gutenberg.spiegel.de/

[unborn dagger]

Oof tausend Dank!!

Gibt es etwas, die du mir empfehlen kann?
Edit: das du mir empfehlen kann?

[grand maple]

*das du....

[unborn dagger]

Danke!!

[hushed silo]

If libgens legal, i wud suggest jus go there
which, based on the previous conversation, appears to not be the case in Germany

[carmine canopy]

Correct

[unborn dagger]

Does someone know any pop science German material?

There is abundance in English with huge channels like Vsauce and Vertasium but I was wondering if there are German equivalents. Doesn't have to be on a huge scale, small channels are cool too

There are so many in English now that I think about it, I know Arabic content of the same is on the rise at the moment but I was wondering if there's any German too

Facebook pages, YouTube channel, blogs really anything which simplifies sciene for the genral audience

[sacred jewel]

Kurzgesagt - Dinge Erklärt

[unborn dagger]

Yup just subbed heh

I am just looking for a huge variety of content. I'm following as well other channels and mediums from TV but was wondering if you guys had hidden gems

Just subbed to mailab btw, thanks OPT3RiX

[grand maple]

@unborn dagger hier ist arnold

[sand marten]

there's a number of channels called something like "the simple club" which do simplifactions of various subjects

like history, biology and whatnot

[unborn dagger]

Is there something like a cheat sheet for german grammar?

I can't bring myself to parse through hammer just to overview grammar I already know. It's too in depth

[misty valve]

Oh yeah, you absolutely shouldn't try doing that with Hammer's.

In the resource list there should be some grammar summary sheets I believe.

For A and B levels.

And if you browse through some of the links in the list, you might find some websites with summaries besides that.

Like this page for example: https://www.dartmouth.edu/~deutsch/Grammatik/Grammatik.html

[unborn dagger]

Oof thanks, I'll look it up. Forgot completely the lovely resources list from here

Hammer is prettt fun tho in terms of examples and things like that, but maybe when I am not short on time

[misty valve]

Yeah, its very, very awesome if you have a specific thing you want to look up.

But it has so much detail and things you basically don't need to know.

[night jay]

Hello guys, does anyone have some essay/textproduktion examples for a DSH exam?

[grand maple]

@night jay check dm

[night jay]

thanks man

[grave gull]

I was interested, what is https://www.klett-sprachen.de/download/3976/6762010_Aussichten_A1_1_GlossDeutsch_EB.pdf

,_,

what I should do to it

[night jay]

Its a vocabulary list for A1.1 level, which is the first level when you learn the language

[grave gull]

danke ,_,

[eternal root]

hi guys, so im like, an absolute beginner, what books and stuff should i start with

[grand maple]

@eternal root head to the bt channel and type the command ">explain beginner"

[eternal root]

thank you !!!

[grand maple]

"stören" - (to) disturb
"Du störst mich bei der arbeit."
You disturb me at work.
If something or someone is disturbing you at your wörk or your hobby etz.

"verstören"
If something is creepy or scary.
"Das Bild ist verstörend."
The picture is creepy/scary.

is this explanation for the difference between verstören and stören correct? because the below sentence was on DWDS and it really doesnt fit "creepy" vibe which the explanation gives. so which is wrong, the explanation or the adjective choosing on this dwds sentence?

die Stadt wuselt (= die Stadt zeigt ein aufgeregtes Durcheinander) wie ein verstörter Ameisenhaufen

[E. StraußNackter Mann169]. the source for the sentence on dwds if that can explain anything to u

[fickle tartan]

verstörend is more like disturbing

in the sense of something is creepy enough that its disturbing, idk

[woeful bough]

Are there any quizlet/Anki that you recommend for b1/b2?

[edgy fulcrum]

Hi, I need a advice about B1 Textproduktion writing. Does anyone have the resources about B1 Textproduktion?

[viscid quartz]

@woeful bough I don't know any one in particular, but you'd do well to look for decks that cover verbs, nouns and adjectives used with prepositions. That's a very important topic for B1-B2 and can be learnt by flashcards

[unborn dagger]

Give me a month and I'll try to curate something for intermediate to advanced

[wary pike]

Guys I want to exercise by building german sentences from given english sentences. But I want some explanation how the things are done that way in addition to correct answer. Is there anything similar like this?

[ebon cloud]

From the info in #questions , you sound like you need resources on word order and the possibilities thereof. I don't have anything handy, but, if that sounds correct, you may find more help looking at word order and Wortordnung usw.

[wary pike]

@ebon cloud thanks, I'm looking for it

[unborn dagger]

Does someone have a list of commonly used adverbs? I'd appreciate if you could share something like that. I'm level B2/C1 btw but anything will do, thanks!

[grand maple]

i think @open girder has

i know he atleast keeps lists of adjective noun combinations in excel. he might have this too

[quasi cypress]

Verben Tempus Zeiten Modus
Verbs Tenses Grammar mood

Please click on open original to be able to read it

[unborn dagger]

That would be a huge help! Thank you!

These are already great, thank you!

Forget about it for a little and you'll find it, I'll be waiting :)

[unborn dagger]

Thanks a lot for your time looking for it!! Btw I should also listen to me more often hahaaha

[grand maple]

https://www.textlog.de/38762.html

good website for differences between words

[unborn dagger]

100%

[rich lark]

https://home.zhaw.ch/~msy/ToolsCourse_Site/Module3/oxDudenD-Esample.pdf

[quick venture]

Does anyone have tv show recommends for learning German? Preferably available in usa

[grand maple]

Dark

[jovial hollow]

You can search on Netflix by "German Subtitles" or "German Language" and pick from the results that come up that relate to your interests.

[quick venture]

Thank you :)

[trim lily]

god i love the german language....you can just take the word stören for bother and the bad ju ju prefix ver- and combine them and make creepy

literally makes so much sense

verstören

[coral cloak]

Sorry if that's a stupid question. I just checked >faq pronunciation and as far as I can see, there's just the link to the German IPA on wikipedia. Which is fine, of course. But aren't there are a few more helpful things out there? Isn't there a compilation of those anywhere? I was thinking of sites like this one, for example:

https://soundsofspeech.uiowa.edu/main/german

Which is far from ideal - I keep thinking there must be something better around.

[sand marten]

well for one, we cannot offer audios on here, so the only option for those is to give guidance as to where to find it. Wikipedia has it, so we link to that.
The second problem is that the number of sounds humans can make in the context of language is not small, so we can't explain each in a FAQ, so what we do is give a couple of common examples and guidance on how to get information on more. But even with those few examples a third problem surfaces: text, especially in English, is not a very effective medium to portray sound, because even just within English, the same letter or group of letters can be pronounced a few different ways within the same dialect, let alone across different dialects.

IPA is the best compromise to solve all those problems, and all it requires is for one to learn how to read it by mapping [weird symbol] to a certain sound. As stated, we can't include sounds here, so we link to a place that can, and that maps symbols to sounds. The FAQ also explains how that mapping works, so as to make it easier to learn, so I would argue that linking to wikipedia isn't all that it does.
That said, I'd gladly improve it or separate it into multiple, more specific ones, but it's not really clear to me what you mean by "more helpful". Phonology is a large subject and we can't, nor should, cover it comprehensively in an FAQ, so what would you expect to find there that isn't there?

[coral cloak]

Well, a while ago, I was trying to find helpful sites for people trying to learn German pronunciation. Which is how I found that soundsofspeech site. I also found a gazillion crappy youtube videos where they just say German words very clearly and slowly. 😂

So, ideally, I was hoping for a list of helpful links, I guess.

[glass venture]

if you're familiar with the ipa, then wiktionary is a great resource for pronunciation! it has IPA transcriptions and audio files for most words and phrases

[sand marten]

@coral cloak what sort of links would you like? I seem to understand just mappings of letters or words to sounds aren't enough (and those are really easy to find by googling anyway)

[coral cloak]

Right. Thank you very much. Not being a linguist, I'd never thought of googling "mapping german r" for example. Sigh. Hence my question.

[hushed silo]

wikipedia pages "Consonant", "Vowel" and "German Phonology" are good ones to have read through imo

they're very dense with info tho

[coral cloak]

Hmm. And I'm sorry to say, but no matter how often I try to get into this, reading "alveo-palatal fricatives" makes my brain short-circuit.

[hushed silo]

yea there’s a lot of terminology. but it’s actually pretty systematic

especially if you know a bit of latin ^^

alveo-palatal means “somewhere between alveolar and palatal”
alveolar means it’s pronounced at the alveolar ridge (that’s an anatomy term now, it’s the ridge of gum right above your teeth), palatal means it’s pronounced at the palate = the roof of your mouth

and a fricative is a sound made with friction

[grand maple]

I don't think i cud ever be as intrested to study the sounds of my own mother tounge as sascha is about german sounds.

[sand marten]

i realise it can take a while to learn the system, and that many will not take the tike to do it (even though i think that's a mistake and theyàll be worse off in the long run), but it's not really necessary. In the IPA help page for each language, wikipedia shows a table of letters, IPA symbols, and example words. If all you need is to hear the sound and read instructions on how it's pronounced, you don't need to remember the symbol nor its name: you just click the symbol to go to the corresponding page and listen to the audio/read the articulation bits

[hushed silo]

I do think if you want to help out with it you should understand how it works

[cinder sleet]

Can anyone provide me A0/A1 German books in pdf-format?

[hushed silo]

Does anyone know of a decent alternative to Anki on iOs devices? doesn't need sync but should have a good SRS system

Anki is too expensive

sth in the <= 5 units of currency range would be nice

[grand maple]

wait a min anki app is paid on ios?

[misty valve]

Maybe you could use the browser version? I've never used it myself though.

[grand maple]

try quizlet nonetheless. its there on android. might have an app in iOS and is really famouss

[carmine canopy]

There's also Flashcards Deluxe which I personally like

[hushed silo]

Maybe you could use the browser version? I've never used it myself though.
being bound to internet won’t work for my sister who doesn’t have a data plan

and quizlet doesn’t have any srs right?

it’s good for cramming but that’s it, unless they changed it

wait a min anki app is paid on ios?
it’s like 25 bucks

it’s ridiculous

[sand marten]

different target, different rules

[hushed silo]

flashcards deluxe looks good tho

[misty valve]

Also consider, if you have any interest: I have no idea how hard it is to program on iOS but a spaced repetition app would probably be pretty easy to make in general.

[hushed silo]

it’ll cost money

well I guess actually only if you want to publish it

[viscid quartz]

There's also tinycards by Duolingo... it's free so it doesn't hurt trying it

[hushed silo]

but iirc you can only make apps on other apple devices or sth

do they support making your own flashcards?

I thought tinycards was like an addon to their courses

[viscid quartz]

No, I'm almost positive you can make your own deck

[hushed silo]

the needs here are keeping three separate language courses (english, italian and romansh) apart on the same app with custom inputs and a decent spaced repetition system

[viscid quartz]

I don't know hwo good their spaced repetition is But since it's free it's worth a shot

[hushed silo]

(she’s used paper flashcards till now but keeps messing up the system caues it’s too much to keep track of)

[wicked karma]

https://www.twitch.tv/astrotvoriginal rund um die Uhr Wahrsagerei

[lilac tusk]

Anyone had experience with the "Magnetic memory method?" https://magneticmemorymethod.samcart.com/products/fi3m-exclusive-how-to-learn-and-memorize-german-vocabulary-enhanced-ebook/?sc_ref=Ups9OlEQPFiVQ8Ex

Looks a bit fishy, just salesman-y....

[viscid quartz]

Retail Value: $371.98. Yours now with all these bonuses for just $7!

I mean for the retail value definitely not, but for 7 dollars it might be worth a shot. I don't know anyone who's used it though

[lilac tusk]

Yeah, not sure how they come up with the original retail value numbers XD

The Benny Lewis email newsletter sent it to me, so not sure if that adds anything to its credibility ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[misty valve]

It looks like it's just a normal memory palace method.

You probably don't need to buy anything if that's the case. There would be free explanations online of how to do it.

https://artofmemory.com/wiki/How_to_Build_a_Memory_Palace

[lilac tusk]

👍 Thanks ^_^

[misty valve]

https://medium.com/@dgryski/i-have-a-super-power-memory-50d60fe3900a

No problem.

[viscid quartz]

I'm not saying it necessarily a good investment, but it seems to me those are two different things

One thing is to know how the method works, which can be learnt with free online sources, like Base showed you

The other thing is to have a lot of pre-made material organised for you in order to use this method, which this package seems to offer

I do find it weird that I can't find any videos reviewing the material though

https://www.fluentin3months.com/magnetic-memory-method-review/
Here's Benny's review of it

Maybe it'll help you make a more informed decision

Hm nevermind, the review is just about the method itself, not the package that is being sold

[lilac tusk]

Yeah, I can't find a whole lot about the German learning part in particular or if that has worked for people, it mostly seems to just be the method

[viscid quartz]

🤷

[lilac tusk]

Yeah

[viscid quartz]

Yeah, if it's just about the method, you can definitely learn it for free

I was expecting it to have a lot of specific material related to German, but it's hard to tell if that's the case

The descriptions are very vague

[lilac tusk]

And all have that snake oil tone to them 😛

[viscid quartz]

😹

We're all pretty conservative with money here, so For us it's probably a no.

[lilac tusk]

Yup, I don't like giving away money, haha

On a different note, anyone have a good resource for top 1000 German word list? I was going to use this one, but looked up "wie" in a german dictionary and it seems to have a lot more meanings than just "as" https://1000mostcommonwords.com/1000-most-common-german-words/

[viscid quartz]

The problem of learning words individually with flashcards is the lack of context and the polisemy

what level are you?

[lilac tusk]

Very basic A1, just started learning a few days ago

[viscid quartz]

If you're A1, something like Duolingo is fine to learn vocabulary and train sentences. Everything has context there and there's probably well over 1000 words to be learnt

[misty valve]

If you want a vocab list, I recommend to find ones that are more targeted at learning levels. Like ones that are connected to text books, or to certain courses.

[lilac tusk]

Sounds good, thanks!

[misty valve]

In the resource list there are some lists you can check out.

[viscid quartz]

There are textbooks with vocabulary lists too, I can send you one if you want to.

[lilac tusk]

I find I don't learn a whole lot with Duolingo ^_^; used it quite a bit with other languages in the past

[viscid quartz]

It's fine, it's not for everyone

Like Base said, check #resources . If you don't find what you're looking for there, PM me and I'll send you a textbook that I like a lot which also has vocabulary for every one of its units

[lilac tusk]

Checking it out!

[carmine canopy]

Uhm, is this on the recommended resources list? https://srv.deutschlandradio.de/themes/dradio/script/aod/index.html?audioMode=2&audioID=4&state=>

I don't think it is, I had a look - but I have to say... I've been listening to it every day in work for a while now, a few weeks. And boy has it ever improved my standard of German. It doesn't constantly blast you with German, sometimes a song or two comes on, so I don't feel the need to swap between the radio and spotify, but mostly it does just blast you with German. When I started listening to it I could not catch a word but now I feel like I can understanding 80% of what they're saying. I dunno how something gets on the curated resources list, but man - I've had a lot of success with that radio so maybe someone can point me to where I can suggest a resource. I think it's great 🙂 I see there are some other radios on the list though, I will try a few of these

Oh I see it says at the bottom how to. Well I suppose I'll just leave that there for someone to look at. Cheers

[viscid quartz]

@carmine canopy Impressive that you can understand it well, keep up the good work 👍

[carmine canopy]

huh

I pinged you but I think it was auto-deleted, I must have said a bad word or something, sorry for that! I was basically saying thank you, is all

[sand marten]

you can't put too many of the same letter in a row or the spam filter will catch it

[carmine canopy]

😯 I see, my mistake

[sand marten]

the real hardest part would be paying 90 (or was it 99)$ a year just to keep the app on the app store

on android yes, on ios i'm not sure

no they're running on innocent babies' blood

it's apple

[unborn dagger]

The one of my making not yet. I'll probably start when the laptop delivers and I'm done with exam prep. On the ones you sent me, yeah a lot. I like the advanced vocabulary one and how it's set up, picking up a lot of words that mean the things I want to say directly without forcing me to use a workaround. And as you know, less words= clearer meaning.

[misty valve]

The maths shouldn't he too bad cause much will have been done for you. People usually keep track of repetition systems by hand, so I think you could easily keep track digitally.

[unborn dagger]

No clue on an ETA so far, but hopefully something very concrete by Jan or December.

[jagged field]

@lilac tusk, you can also check out the lists of words which are on the site of Goethe Institut for certain levels (A1, A2, B1), you can easily google it

[unborn dagger]

Basically yes. It's targeted from B1 upwards. Synonyms are a major focus and putting the words into use is also very important. A huge part of it will also be dedicated to the flexibility one should gain as they advance from beginner to intermediate and on to advanced. There are many ways to say one thing, so how could I as a learner begin utilising the constructions to ease my expression (written and spoken). Another thing is learning in chunks ( I've read an article about this and started adopting it a few months back at B1), which basically means learning sentences as a whole to mean something to avoid the stutter during a thought while talking.

Chunking begins to also tackle the idea of declining adjectives on the go.

Thing is it'll only be valuable to a learner of a specific type so it has to come with a guide so to speak. I'll definitely keep you updated as I put this bundle together. It's more so to help me out as well 😅

[jagged field]

Did the method slow down your learning progress?

And hello

[unborn dagger]

Hey hey, which method exactly?

[jagged field]

Of learning whole sentences instead of words

I think it may have a good impact on stutter, as you mentioned, but I'm thinking if it simultaneously could slow down your learning progress

Because repeating whole sentences again and again is a bit slower than in the case of learning just words

[unborn dagger]

At an intermediate level, learning generally slows down. More so that you're using more difficult constructions or chunks

Contextually as well where a word fits does wonder for your expression.

This doesn't apply only for vocabulary but also grammatical structures, declinations, fixed constructions, and tense change.

It's honestly the deciding factor, I believe, in how fluent you are in a language.

[jagged field]

Hmm, you are right. The process of learning sentences could be an another way to learn other language skills in the same time

[unborn dagger]

For instance I've never heard someone stutter on es tut mir leid

Or stop to think about it, or make a dativ mistake or anything like that

[jagged field]

Simmt. What about words which have more than a few meanings? Do you learn them all? And how does it look like? You find a sentence with the word and start learning it?

[unborn dagger]

The method I'm not very clear on as of now, since I'm learning constructions as I make them up and check them here with natives or read them somewhere.

But you'll find this in a few lists. Zur Arbeit gehen - ich gehe zur Arbeit.

Now you can add a milion more spins to that but it'll always be zur Arbeit gehen.

[jagged field]

I know that the lists of words on site of the Goethe Insitut are made so that every word have at least one sentence as an example of it meaning. It has also an advantage for the authors and learners because they are universal for people from all over the world

[unborn dagger]

You don't need to even know wether its zu der Arbeit or not, it's just the way it is. Which stresses even more the fact that this wouldn't work for beginners, you'll need to be aware of lots of grammar while utilising this at the same time.

[jagged field]

It makes sense. And you probably need to have a basic vocabulary at first to get the correct meaning of the sentences

And the use of grammar

[unborn dagger]

Yup. But it takes out all the calculation of grammar and helps you focus on expression.

[jagged field]

Actually, it may also help people to feel more comfortable with the Nebensätzen due to the position of the conjugated verb

[unborn dagger]

Definitely, how much I've drilled to get wenn Sätze right...

Dass Sätze I'm a bit wonky but es geht

[jagged field]

I used to always forget that verb ought to be put on the end of a sentence and I still can't say I use them comfortable

[unborn dagger]

15 minutes of practice should get you up to speed

Oh man I could go on and on about study techniques I'm sorry, I'm such a nerd...

[jagged field]

I should do that and my speaking skills would probably increase but it's hard to start speaking, especially with someone who is on a higher level

But the first step is probably the hardest and then if might become more and more comfortable for me

But it has to be begun first:P

[unborn dagger]

Definitely, I can't begin to think about fear in context of language learners.

[jagged field]

Especially that the server is directed for those people who want to learn

[grand maple]

for anyone looking for a free VPN. WIndscribe is a recommendation. theres a subreddit/discord server too. [not official]. (15 gb data) & mobile app available too

windscribe.net

[sand marten]

yep i recommend it too, they offer a free GB a month, with a permanent bonus if you retweet them

15gb? o.O

[grand maple]

ya its 10. and if u retweet it 5gb

not one

[sand marten]

wut no way

fuck you're right

[grand maple]

wait a min. when u register they give u 10. and when u retweet another 5

[sand marten]

yes yes

i was off by a factor of 10 :D

[grand maple]

i feel a bit shitty tho cuz i have only 10 followers and not giving them any advantage by retweeting

[sand marten]

i used my throwaway account for that

i don't really use twitter so i don't feel bad

[hushed silo]

my twitter acc is blocked because I created it to inform discord of an issue, and that got the acc flagged

[sacred jewel]

riF

[sand marten]

Lol?

[unborn dagger]

German stand up comedy? Any favourites?

[wicked karma]

any german audio comics? like this one but with german text https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9fQhWGjBh4

[hushed silo]

anyone here used Anki to learn paradigms (e.g. forms of irregular verbs) with success before? I’m not quite sure what an effective flashcard would look like

[carmine canopy]

unnecessary imo

[hushed silo]

how did you study irregular verbs?

[carmine canopy]

Just use the vocab you learned in sentences then you memory it

[hushed silo]

so the issue here is, the language I’m learning has a really large fraction of unpredictability (comparable to german strong verbs I suppose but imo somewhat worse)

[carmine canopy]

Write down them on a list and repeat them regularly

maybe they might help ya

that was what i did to learn some adjectives

[hushed silo]

(and also romance langs have a larger portion of actually irregular verbs than germanic ones in my experience, in french I really couldn’t handle them without cramming)

ya know what maybe I’ll just write me my own paradigm practicer

[carmine canopy]

Idk if I'm supposed to post this in here or whatever but, for starters like me, I always get recommended to read children books and translate everything if needed.

Here is a website for german children books, but also other languages like French and what not so, might be helpful to some I don't know.

http://www.childrensbooksforever.com/index.html

[jagged field]

@hushed silo, it may be out-of-date but I think practising the forms of the verbs in different usages. I did that with some English irregular verbs (which are rather not so hard to memorise) and with most of the German ones which I know. Maybe it would be slower than just normally repeating them but if you think that way would be not so efficient, maybe mine is worth a try (I saw that @carmine canopy has already proposed it too)

[unborn dagger]

That's actually how I thought about doing it because manually is going to take ages. There is so much info that needs to be packed. I suck at scripts tho, but will definitely learn more as I get the principles of the deck down. Spending time now learning what methods work and what not. Language learning methods, and ones I actually like and find enjoyable.

I have extended it's timeline to when university starts for me so like April or so, you might well be beyond the point of using the deck but it'll be pretty neat I hope.

[grand maple]

how would one add cards automatically?

[plain flower]

would yall recomend i get like a textbook or soemthing for the excersises?

[misty valve]

You can, sure. There are many good textbooks.

But check out the resource list as well. There are free exercises.

[grand maple]

@leaden zenith hmmm..... But how would that save time? I mean u r copy pasting the meanings in a csv file right? So how is it different than me directly copy pasting in anki. Sorry m a bit shitty at this kinda stuff.

[grand maple]

i think i will let this stuff be for now lol. everything went over my head

ANNOUNCEMENT: deepl released a really good desktoop app that can translate anything by jus highlighting

its

u can get it on deepl.com

[unborn dagger]

This ad was sponsored by deepl.com. you can skip the ad in 5 seconds.

For real though, I'm going to get it right now.

[sand marten]

having tried something similar for japanese some time ago, i recommend against it. If it makes looking up words too easy you just won't remember them long term

[grand maple]

yah but i save all the words idk...... and for goverment websites, its heavenly to have the app by urside

[viscid quartz]

Cool software, thanks for the heads up

[halcyon wraith]

No Linux version

[carmine canopy]

New series on Zdf called ‘Die neue Zeit’ about the Bauhaus movement told from point of view of the students. Eine sechsteilige!

[sand marten]

it's

the emoji was supposed to be the adjective

[livid verge]

Kann jemand ein gut und kostenlos Internetkurs empfehlen?

[grand maple]

nicos WEg

Deutsche Welle

@livid verge

[livid verge]

Danke

[fierce crag]

I am looking for a good educational series in German (Like C'est Pas Sorcier in French). Can anyone name me one or more series of this genre?

[hushed silo]

I don't know that series, but Die Sendung mit der Maus is great

the format is like, every episode they look into how something is made or works behind the scenes, and in-between there's little cartoons

some of which (like the Kaptn Blaubär ones) are actually just hilarious so it's not even only for kids (in fact the average viewer is like 40yo despite kids being the target audience)

(but the show has been broadcast weekly for almost 50 years, so...)

[fierce crag]

@hushed silo danke! Das ist wunderschön.

[hybrid kestrel]

World surely has intriguing ways. My domesticated native mentioned "die Sendung mit der Maus" today, i come to discord, and i see it again - never saw the title in my life before, now i see it twice in half an hour. :D

[grand maple]

@hybrid kestrel this emoji is also "der Maus" . the main character

[sand marten]

@hybrid kestrel ah yes, the so-and-so effect

i'm still not entirely convinced if that "effect" is really a thing or if there's some actual matrix monkey business going on

[hybrid kestrel]

most of it is just selection bias

but sometimes random stuff happens

[sand marten]

no there's a specific name for when you suddenly notice a thing popping up over and over

can't remember

[hybrid kestrel]

baader meinhof

[sand marten]

yeah that

there's a german film that uses it as title, too

[hybrid kestrel]

but i think its explained as selection bias

our brain filters shitton of information that's irrelevant

[sand marten]

nothing. Take the visual appearance of the emoji into account, not its name

emoji names are basically gibberish on this server

[grand maple]

uwu= since the face of the emoji is the face a person makes when he/she says Uwu
sweat= since theres a drop of sweat on it
brooby= nickname [teasingly] of the user "broseidon" / he also hates "uwu"/ also is a server meme. which is why it was decided his nickname shud be a part of the emoji

@leaden zenith

[sand marten]

i don't think that helps xD

but the gist of it is "it's an inside joke"

then you are sad and i have no desire to speak with you further

[lime lark]

berzi is brutal

[wicked karma]

Lately I've been calling Germany directly... like different public offices.. and it's been great to talk to real people about real stuff.. Just get some VOIP credit and look up some numbers!

[modern crypt]

Of course

[digital oracle]

euer ernst warum ist der duden nicht in den resourses

mach mal auf die liste jetzt

ist der einzige vokabel und grammatik service den wir wirklich benutzen

https://www.duden.de/

<@&305455824174710787>

[viscid quartz]

Well, yes, I think it'd be cool to have an item specifically for dictionaries

we can add pons, leo, dict.cc, dwds and duden (at least)

[ebon cloud]

Linguee has lots of example sentences, very useful

[hushed silo]

der Duden ist nicht mal gut

dwds ist einfach strikt besser

[digital oracle]

@hushed silo dwds hat keine Aussprache

Und ist nicht gelb

[hushed silo]

das ist wahr, glücklicherweise gibt es aber nur wenige Wörter (basically nur Lehnwörter), wo die Aussprache nicht von der Schreibweise abgeleitet werden kann

aber ja, ist n Argument

wenn man spezifisch die Aussprache nachschlagen will, ist Duden gut

[digital oracle]

Also du kannst natürlich lautsprache lesen

[hushed silo]

(wobei ich bei gewissen Wörtern da auch finde, es fehlen eine oder meherere Varianten)

moment, ich hab grad geschaut, und dwds hat sehr wohl aussprachen

https://www.dwds.de/wb/Balkon

meine Variante felht aber :(

[digital oracle]

Aber das ist bisschen schwierig wenn man nicht Muttersprachlich ist. Also Lautsprache jetzt

[hushed silo]

auf dwds seh ich keine Lautsprache, nur audio

dwds lügt wenigstens nicht, in der schweiz betont man das auf der ersten silbe

also zumindest ich tu’s

[digital oracle]

https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/heute

Ja aber die Schweiz spricht auch kein hochdeutsch

[hushed silo]

ähm

bitte?

schweizerhochdeutsch ist genau so legitim wie das aus deutschland

[digital oracle]

Ja aber dann musst du auch Österreicher reinnehmen

[hushed silo]

äh, ja, natürlich? die haben auch ihren Standard

und in beiden Ländern gibt’s, genau wie in Deutschland auch, viele Dialekte obendrauf

aber wegen denen existiert der Standard nicht plötzlich nicht

[digital oracle]

Ja aber es gibt hochdeutsch

Das ohne Dialekt

[hushed silo]

sonst könnt ich jetzt nicht mit dir reden

das musst du separat halten

ob jemand einen Dialekt spricht, beeinflusst nicht, ob man Hochdeutsch kann

[digital oracle]

Ich kann auch hessisch

Schon klar

[hushed silo]

worauf willst du denn aus?

[digital oracle]

Hab mich schlecht ausgedrückt aber die Schweizer aussprache ist ja nicht die aussprache die die meisten kennen

[hushed silo]

dennoch gehört sie in einem Wörterbuch aufgeführt

also die im Standard

der Duden macht da so ein halbherziges Ding

[digital oracle]

Würde ich jetzt nicht sagen aber

Also das halbherzige

[hushed silo]

wo sie sich weder klar nur auf deutsches Deutsch konzentrieren, noch Aussprachen aus Österreich und der Schweiz konsequent auflisten

beides wäre okay

aber Duden ist da so irgendwo in der Mitte, wo halt oft einfach Sachen fehlen

[digital oracle]

Aber für jemanden der lernt steht da genug drin

Und fürs Abi reichts anscheinend auch

(+ich hab noch ne gehört schau im dwds)

Klar ist andere aussprache wichtig, aber dafür gibt es dann auch spezielle Wörterbücher jetzt für z.B bayrisch. Bayrisch ist jetzt nicht vergleichbar mit Schweizer hochdeutsch, aber ich hab gedacht es gibt nur das Hochdeutsch, das ohne Akzent sozusagen als grundstein

Ich wusste nicht das es da 🇦🇹/🇨🇭 Varianten gibt hab gedacht das ist übergreifend gleich

@hushed silo wollte nicht sagen ihr sprecht kein hochdeutsch. Hab nur gedacht das ist so ein norm Ding also das es eine norm gibt.

The more you know

[hushed silo]

es gibt separate Standards für jedes der DACH-Länder. Die sind im grossen und ganzen identisch, bis auf Details in Aussprache, Rechtschreibung und lokalen Wörtern (z.B. ist glaub ich in Österreich Kassa standard, anderswo Kasse)

[digital oracle]

(bin grad aufgestanden bin vielleicht nicht ganz frisch im kopf [Vio])

[hushed silo]

hier sagt man eher Trottoir als… was auch immer man in Deutschland sagt, Gehsteig?

(das Ding neben Strassen für Fussgänger)

von der Rechtschreibung her sind glaub ich Österreich und Deutschland relativ gleich, in der Schweiz gibt’s n paar Unterschiede. ß→ss ist der wohlbekannte, aber es gibt noch n paar andere Dinge: die Anführungszeichen gehen in der Schweiz «so rum», bei Zahlen verwendet man normalerweise ' als Tausender-Trennzeichen und . als Komma (also 1'234.56)

(sonst fällt mir auch nichts ein)

[digital oracle]

Wir sagen alles Gehweg, trotroir, Fußweg, aber am meisten Bürgersteig

Gehsteig klingt auch interessant

[hushed silo]

war geraten

wohl nicht gut :P

[digital oracle]

Ist die Mischung aus Gehweg und Bürgersteig. Ist der Gehsteig. Gefällt mir

Ss haben wir ja mit der neuen deutschen Rechtschreibung geändert mit dem Effekt, dass du beides kennen lernst, aber nur eins dann richtig ist

[hushed silo]

wie meinst du das?

die Regeln für ss und ß in der neuen deutschen Rechtschreibung (die langsam wirklich nicht mehr sehr neu ist…) scheinen mir eigentlich ganz sinnvoll und einleuchtend

(und die aus der alten überhaupt nicht)

[errant wyvern]

Wenn eine Volksgruppe schon eine lange literarische Tradition hat, sind Rechtschreibungsreformen nur notwendig wenn die moderne gesprochene Sprache sich allzu stark und in ungewöhnlichem Maße mit der schriftlichen Sprache unterscheidet. Trotzdem sind die Anpassungen nur fein eingestellt - wie man klar in der Geschichte des Englischen, des Französischen, des Dänischen, des Walisischen ansieht - weil die schriftliche Sprache eine Brücke zu der geschichtlichen Entwicklung einer literaturreichen Sprache ist. Wenn umfassende Änderungen vorgenommen sind, riskiert man diese wesentliche Brüggelsche abzubauen.

Die Rechtschreibung muß nicht immer logisch sein und soll, gottlob, nicht unbedingt die Aussprache widerspiegeln! Wie würde die Sprache des Sören Kierkegaards eigentlich aussehen! Es wäre eine Torheit sondergleichen, wenn die Dänen schrieben wie sie sprächen. Genauso wäre der Fall mit den Franzosen.

[sand marten]

...

[lime lark]

verwirrend

[carmine canopy]

Enjoy, this is for the more-advanced people here :)

[grand maple]

@hybrid kestrel ^^

[viscid quartz]

Ein Freund von mir hat mir ein Video geschickt, in dem durch MRT gezeigt wird, wie sich die Zunge bei der Aussprache der Vokalen und Konsonanten bewegt. Das könnte sich als nützlich für diejenigen erweisen, die durch eine Beschreibung nicht begreifen können, wie ein bestimmter Laut auszusprechen ist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dAEE7FYQfc

Es sieht nur ein bisschen beunruhigend aus

[pure bolt]

everyone has a little frog in their mouth

[hybrid kestrel]

radiology ble

[hybrid kestrel]

@carmine canopy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WONvwCp-DKM

seeing people like him being happy doing stuff they love makes me happy :D

a cool channel overall

[carmine canopy]

Yea?

[hybrid kestrel]

nothing, just found a channel and i thought you mind find it interesting for german learning purposes ;-)

[carmine canopy]

Doing stuff you enjoy, should make you happy. Ahah.

I'll definitely look at the channel as a resource, though.

[hybrid kestrel]

even if its not your level knowledge wise (its quite popular science), but the vocab is still there

[carmine canopy]

Yea.

[grand maple]

Ah shiet. It wud wud habe been lit if there were subs

[carmine canopy]

Anyone know any good German bands/artists(outside of Rammstein ofc)?

[misty valve]

If you look in the resource list, you should find some playlists. @carmine canopy

And maybe you can do a general search in #archived-media for youtube links if you feel like it, since people often post music in there.

[grand maple]

how would one specifically search youtubelinks?

[misty valve]

Well actually the best way I think is to type has: link since most of the links in #archived-media are youtube anyway.

[carmine canopy]

Ah, okay. Thank you

[grand maple]

never knew this command

[misty valve]

Yeah, I'm no expert or anything. Might be worth experimenting. 😄

[lucid thunder]

I found this pretty good slow (very very slow) German podcast

https://www.radio.net/p/slowgerman

[carmine canopy]

Great channel recommendation Vahti. It’s the most interesting one about science in DE I’ve so far come across

[wicked karma]

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6mcwht Stimpy < 3

[wicked karma]

http://www.nick.de/shows/448-rockos-modernes-leben/videos/15731-der-grosse-einkauf-die-erkaltung völlig legal!

[grand maple]

Resource request: is there any german to german offline dictionary. I would like to try one out

[carmine canopy]

@grand maple download this

Then downlaod the german dictionary inside

[grand maple]

Thank you so muchhhhh @carmine canopy

[carmine canopy]

Gerne ☺️

[pastel depot]

Ich hab‘ keine Ahnung, aber ich denke ich mag diese Lied besser im deutsch als Englisch. https://youtu.be/KIMYH6EgdU0 Ich glaube Leiden kann helfen mit dein deutsch lernen!

[shell glen]

Hallo! Do you know any youtube channel with this kind of videos?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8l-J4VVXyo&list=PLsoAwWtvF3L21elI_A9UWOvsNWDt9g0j0

[tepid token]

Hi,
I'm on A2 right now, and I've always had issues with some words articles, so, I've developed a beta version of this web application. It's name is Worter Vogel (Bird of Words). A minimalist and open-source German helper. Able to give you a minimal description of words with articles, genre, phonetics and pronunciation syllables.

I would need your tests (on mobile phones and computers) your feedback if possible.

https://v-worter.dylan-tientcheu.now.sh/

It's open source and the code can be found here: https://github.com/blurdylan/worter-vogel

[real herald]

Really good one! I was looking for something like this!

[misty valve]

https://www.sbs.com.au/language/german/audio/tag-der-deutschen-einheit-ein-sbs-moderationsgespraech-in-australien

Some audio you might like listening to.

[hushed silo]

@tepid token is it just me or is that just a prettier but less functional wiktionary interface

it seems to pull its data from there but omits a lot of info found on the wiki pages

example
no meanings
no useage
no conjugation table

and a random "präteritum" at the top

[tepid token]

Hi @hushed silo , thanks for your feedback.

Yeah, the whole data comes from wiktionary. Often the data from wiktionary is really inaccurate... this may lead to what you just had above 😅

I ommited conjugations and all because my main aim was to get the gender of the written nouns.

I’ve really looked for some better way(than wiktionary) to get word genders but i found no available data, maybe you may help with this ?

[hushed silo]

well the data there is not inaccurate

and wiktionary itself has it well-presented

it’s just… far from all the relevant stuff

and, honestly, not as nicely presented. the color scheme is nice but I see exactly no reason to ever use this over wiktionary

[tepid token]

Yes @hushed silo , i understand, I’ll put an emphasis on that. My first aim was to get gender articles for searched words, but from the feedback i received I understand that people need a more complete dictionary. And that’s what I’ll be aiming now.

[hushed silo]

I just wonder what you can do to make it worth using over wiktionary

if you pull data from any specific dictionary then why would one not just use that

[carmine canopy]

^Exactly. You say that people need a more complete dictionary while promoting yours as "German minimal dictionary". If you're pulling data from Wiktionary, what does yours offer compared to it apart from a different layout. I'd be interested in having a dictionary, which doesn't solely use Wiktionary as its basis.

[brittle scaffold]

Guys, do you know of any extremely easy German children books and/or videos reading those books with pictures? I know nothing about the language but I learn best through reading. Looking for resources like that. I'm not a textbook person so please don't suggest those 😄

[viscid quartz]

@brittle scaffold Andre Kleins Bücher können interessant sein. Ich kann dir ein paar von ihnen schicken.

[brittle scaffold]

@viscid quartz That would be a huge help if you could, thanks. Though I wasn't joking when I said I knew nothing about the language, so the only way I can understand you here is putting your words into a translator app, sorry. I'm an English only guy for now.

[balmy sedge]

Ich brauche gute Deutsche/österreichische filme bitte

[hushed silo]

tja dann geb ich dir halt keine Empfehlung für einen schweizer Film

[fickle tartan]

lol

[carmine canopy]

Excellent explanation of Konjunktiv II: https://youtu.be/AUKJv5ZrJXE

[pastel depot]

Was sind gute Shows auf YouTube, die einfache Grammatik haben in deutsch?

Was sind gute kostenlose Apps, um Wörter und Vokabeln zu lernen auch?

[viscid quartz]

@pastel depot Youtube: Slow German, Easy German
Apps: Duolingo, Clozemaster, Memrise, Lingvist

Beelingua

[pastel depot]

Danke @viscid quartz

[merry prism]

Is there a list of verbs that require direct objects?

[misty valve]

No, do you mean accusative objects?

The vast majority of verbs use an accusative object. It's recommended that you instead learn the list of dative verbs and nominative verbs and assume all others are accusative.

[merry prism]

In my grammar book it says “sagen” must have a direct object I.e, “ich habe ‚es‘ ihm gesagt“

[misty valve]

Oh, you mean verbs which require an object?

[merry prism]

Yes

[spiral breach]

@brittle scaffold this is prolly a bit late but this is a lovely series made for children that explains many things in colourful, interesting ways:

it’s called Wieso weshalb warum

maybe you could benefit from some books of this series

[misty valve]

Generally if the verb has an object at all, you should include it. @merry prism

[spiral breach]

I borrowed these from my local public library

idk if you live near one, but it’s a suggestion

[misty valve]

I mean, it's somewhat contextual. There's not really a list though.

You just have to learn the verbs and their usages.

[merry prism]

@misty valve gotcha, I was thinking as much but thought I would ask

Vielen Dank

[misty valve]

Bitte.

[viscid quartz]

@spiral breach Tolle Bücher

[spiral breach]

@viscid quartz Jawohl, stimmt 😄

und ich lieeeebe die Bilder und Zeichnungen

so farbenfroh und kindlich

Ich benutze gerne Bücher wie diese, um eine Fremdsprache zu lernen

Es macht alles mehr amüsant und spaßig

😊

[brittle scaffold]

@spiral breach I don't think simple resource topic can be any late 🙂 Keep 'em comin'! And thanks a lot for your help, I'll look for those.

[pastel depot]

Was gibt es gute orte um kostenlose deutsche ebooks zu finden?

[vague bobcat]

https://www.goethe.de/ins/us/en/sta/ney/bib.html
Das hier ist ein guter Ort für kostenlose deutsche ebooks

[pastel depot]

Danke

[wicked karma]

is there another A1 goethe practice exam besides this one
http://www.goethe.de/pro/relaunch/prf/materialien/A1_sd1/sd_1_modellsatz.pdf

[wicked karma]

i guess one could use the A1 fit as well

[carmine canopy]

We use this Book for my A1.1 Kurs .

[carmine canopy]

Hello

Has anyone studied Gerrman with Menschen Kursbuch?

[sand marten]

hey i have that same book for b2

b1 actually

[carmine canopy]

I @sand marten they are really good.

[sand marten]

ok. I never used them, this one was given to me when i was already above that level 👀

and my husband is lazy and hasn't gotten to that point yet

[quasi cypress]

I had an old Schritte book and it was great

[past swift]

i have both schritte and menschen but i don't know why i prefer Menschen even tho i'm just a beginner

[pastel depot]

Was empfehlen du zum Üben von Verbkonjugationen und anderer deutscher Grammatik?

Das ist/sind kostenlos auch*

[carmine canopy]

https://youtu.be/sbWlLM_69QU

[viscid quartz]

@pastel depot Hast du Basic German von Schenke schon durchgearbeitet? Es steht kostenlos zur Verfügung in #resources

[carmine canopy]

Hi everyone! I have a german roommate for the next year or so! I've been eager to improve my lousy and adorable sounding german. I want to maximize this opportunity, I'm wondering how should I structure my time learning german. I've been able to hold a pretty basic conversation but I run out of words and sentence structure knowledge for more complex ideas. Currently I'm using Anki (Building a vocabulary deck with the words I learn while speaking to Seb) and Pimsleur German I-V... Should I add reading graded books & kids stories + grammar book?

[carmine canopy]

New find today, is DW's 'Audio Tutor' podcasts!

It's very beginner friendly. I'm just using it to practice pronunciation so I think even B level can get something out of it

[strange flame]

Hey is there any website where i can find stage 1 stories

For beginners

[carmine canopy]

Duolingo stories

[carmine canopy]

Really surprised that no one has mentioned this one much (maybe I missed it on the resources list), but using ctrl + f I only found 2 or 3 mentions of it: https://www.seedlang.com/

Basically, think duolingo where the audio is all said by a human (from easy german) and activities seem much more straight forward. In my opinion, it doesn't benefit me much to do things like "match the pairs" on duo lingo, nor does it benefit me to say "the bees are drinking beer" and it also does not benefit me to hear a robot pronounce it wrong or in a non-natural way. Seedlang has actual real sentences for the most part (I'm sure there are exceptions) which have 2 videos attached to each -- the video of the person saying it, so that you may see what expression they're making, and a video that accompanies that (if it's a sentence) which is related. I also deeply appreciate how the vocabulary is broken up into sections from A1 - C1 and I really like the competitive functions on the app wherein you can quiz against someone else, really triggers my competitive spark although I find it to be much better to exclusively quiz against people I don't know, quizzing against friends makes me go much slower and it's just not... efficient. It also has the cases declared and explained with each word and how it declines, along with a translation and additional examples sentences/videos/audio.

Highly highly highly recommend it. Ever since I moved away from duolingo I came back to it once or twice to get a little app to fill the gaps when I'm sitting around doing nothing, and for a while I used anki but in order to use anki you need to invest a good deal of time into making your own decks. I then tried LingQ but the interface on it is just horrible. So I've finally settled on this app. Big thumbs up from me, I hope someone else gets the same benefits that I do from it

Also I should mention that it has an anki style interface built into it. I dunno, I really like this app. Worth a shot 😄

[covert basin]

Not sure if this got posted before (Like FOX, I did my best to seach in the document).

This is a reasonable website for a begginer (~A1) to learn some common vocabulary with pictures and voice-overs http://www.languageguide.org/german/vocabulary/

[woeful bough]

@carmine canopy Is it free or paid resource?

[carmine canopy]

I think it's both

I both premium pretty quickly because I instantly liked it a lot, but I think there's a free version as well

[carmine canopy]

Bad Banks auf Netflix. Sehr sehr gut

[past swift]

Dogs of berlin und Dark sind auch gut

[carmine canopy]

Any other recommendations for German films or series on Netflix? I'm running out it seems

Watching Berlin Station now, looks promising, but where are all the (original) German language programmes to be found? Seems a small selection unless I am missing something?

[pastel depot]

Was sind eine gute deutsche shows mit Untertiteln auf Youtube? Ich hoffe, für etwas unterhaltsam und lehrreich. (Auch, außer Easy German) Danke.

[carmine canopy]

kein gutes für dich, aber dieses ist mein lieblingskänal für Deutsch

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKGMHVipEvuZudhHD05FOYA

könnte es helfen, wenn du das video langsam anschaust?

[carmine canopy]

kurz und bündig ^^

[carmine canopy]

has anyone read Siddhartha by Herman Hesse in German? The language looks uncomplicated and it was originally written in German. Think I have found my next read! It's available here: http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/2499

[jovial cypress]

i would like to thank the kind stranger who put together the "curated list of resourses" those things are very nutzlich

[carmine canopy]

Hallo, zusammen! Habt ihr gute Podcasts, um Deutsch zu lernen, zu empfehlen?

Schau dir einfach mal unsere Liste an. Da gibt es einige gute Podcasts

[jovial cypress]

@carmine canopy "easy german podcast"

[carmine canopy]

Coffee Break German, this had the biggest impact on my progress and enjoyment of the language when I was A1/A2

[carmine canopy]

appreciate any recommendations for movies on Netflix before my trial runs out. Can find hardly any original German ones that I like a lot. I really l iked 'Bad Banks' if that helps, and any kind of conspiracy films, but not crime related, so insider trading and the like. Also well-made historical and other dramas. I didn't enjoy the current 'Roman Empire'. UPDATE: I found the 'critically-acclaimed German movies section', looks much better

[jovial cypress]

try stranger things

helped me a lot

in bettering my listening

[carmine canopy]

Can you link it here @jovial cypress ? The German version, that is?

[jovial cypress]

i meant to type

try "stranger things"

i hope it didnt make any misunderstandings

and the link

https://www.easygerman.org/podcast

[jovial cypress]

my netflix subscription is over and i am to busy(and poor to renew it)😅

but you can change the netflix language to german @carmine canopy

and it will automatically give the option of german dub and sub

[carmine canopy]

fab, thankies spooky

[jovial cypress]

Gern geschehen

[grand maple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dpv99nvUtzY

good channel

[carmine canopy]

yea

this channel is pretty cool

and science-releated

[cerulean coyote]

Anyone know any research publication website or something like that but with German publications

or anything science in general

please ping me in the answer

[ebon cloud]

Most databases allow you to filter by language. Local libraries and more often university libraries have databases you can look through. That would be the easiest place to start because some research might be behind a paywall.

When you find one article, you can look up the whole journal or check the citations for more articles and journals.

[amber rain]

I dont do to well with just reading resources I much prefer to learn by doing examples and actually doing and putting to use what im learning, I dont mind reading but they have to have some form of practical element to them, what are some good resources for a near beginner to use?

[unborn dagger]

@amber rain you could give Nicos Weg from Deutsch-Welle a shot.

[spare willow]

Could anyone recommend a website to learn german vocabulary? I hate flashcard app, tried and gave up.

It has to be a website with white background, because I want to use it at work. A dark theme would be too obvious

[hybrid kestrel]

zeit.de :D

[viscid quartz]

@spare willow Das könnte hilfreich sein
https://www.nachrichtenleicht.de/
https://stories.duolingo.com/

[spare willow]

Danke...

Ich hasse duolingo und nachrichten sind langweilig

[keen current]

hey

I need a good grammar book because I have a slight problem with the ending of some words for example

unserer, unsere, unseres, unser

[misty valve]

For declension I recommend this http://germanforenglishspeakers.com/adjectives/adjective-declensions/ as a reference.

ex adjective declension

[dusk dome]

A Brief Guide to Memorizing German Noun and Adjective Declension by Basementality
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jWl5-kkqF3FQLDzrz8XLBJj7hvPFQK7MT5SYEDGK65E/edit

[misty valve]

And this for learning it.

[keen current]

danke bro

[misty valve]

But the basic tip for words like unser and so on: you only need to learn the ending for "ein" (indefinite declension). Once you know "ein" endings, the ending for kein, and for possessive pronouns (mein, sein, unser, etc) are exactly the same.

[keen current]

yeah thanks man

I have a large vocabulary for german words

the only weak point is this

😄

[keen current]

@misty valve can you recommend a good grammar book

for non-native german speakers

[misty valve]

Basic German from the resource list should be fine. It depends what kind of thing you are looking for specifically. Exercises? Basic explanations? Examples? In depth explanations?

Hammer's is the main resource to use for very specific details and obscure concepts as it has the most comprehensive information. However, if you are just trying to grasp the main ideas, it isn't suitable.

[keen current]

links you gave me are amazing

thanks

[misty valve]

Np. And btw, if you come across a specific topic you need more info on, that's usually the best thing to ask for because then people can link you to their favourite explanation of that specific topic. Way easier than trying to recommend a whole book.

[keen current]

yeah

thx

[cobalt scroll]

Thoughts on Die Gelbe Aktuell?

[sacred jewel]

^ @viscid quartz

[viscid quartz]

@cobalt scroll Ein sehr gutes und umfassendes Buch. Die Themen werden ziemlich ausführlich behandelt, also würde ich es erst ab A2-B1 empfehlen.

[worldly mantle]

Is the app "Deutsch Perfekt" like the desktop version?

[cobalt scroll]

A friend bought it for me when he was in Germany, but I'm still not A2. I'll leave it for later. Thanks!

[worldly mantle]

I feel like I can be charged out of nothing the app looks cold and insecure

[viscid quartz]

@cobalt scroll Du kannst es bereits als Nachschlagewerk benutzen (zB wenn du ein bestimmtes Thema im Unterricht nicht richtig verstanden hast). Aber wenn du das ganze Buch durcharbeiten möchtest, dann ja, solltest du bis A2/B1 warten.

Das Buch ist aber fantastisch, du solltest deinem Freund dankbar sein 👍

[cobalt scroll]

Thanks. Currently just self studying, so no class lol

Using Duolingo and some other online resources. I’ll probably acquire some lower level grammar books soon.

[tough osprey]

duolingo's stories section i think is super helpful

i have been using it

i think for grammar in terms of an app, Babbel is really useful and very simple to understand, however they are one of those companies that won't send you a reminder email when your subscription is about to renew

have you guys watched Harry gefangen in der Zeit?

[unborn dagger]

Paulchen Panther der Rosarote Panther is on YouTube, at least 116 episodes of it. Really fun for chill studying and listening to easy content actually directed towards native speakers.

[carmine canopy]

Anyone know of German videos, books, etc. on ancient Greece, Rome, or ancient history in general?

[carmine canopy]

Uh no

I don’t use ebooks

[sleek holly]

Gosh I haven't been in a reading session for more than a year now.
I'm sure the right person will see it eventually.

[sand marten]

last time i've been in a reading session it was wormic trying to make us like LoL lore

good

[misty garden]

no idea, I just joined and got the book

[misty valve]

Can you tell me more about it? @leaden zenith

Oh okay.

[sleek holly]

We're not exactly allowed to spread pirated material on Discord, but there is indeed a site that is particularly good for finding free books.

[carmine canopy]

Gutenberg archive?

Gutenberg.org

[carmine canopy]

Thought this might be what you were looking for