general

[late forge]

so gotta grind until deutschland

[mossy cove]

Ikr

[ivory moat]

I see. What’s your major?

[vale tiger]

Even being close the density is too high for them to see each other

[mossy cove]

Ich muss schlafen gehen

[lucid pike]

🥀😔🥀

[sonic ether]

nein

[rose steppe]

😡

[late forge]

BWL werbung. bist du student?

[lucid pike]

Well true

hmmm

[mossy cove]

Skey is glad also

[lucid pike]

Angwey

😹

[ivory moat]

Bin kein Student, sondern Schüler.

[modest fern]

Hi

[lucid pike]

Maroon

[mossy cove]

Why waffle spamming loves?

[ivory moat]

Ich bin in meinem letzten Jahr.

[vale tiger]

I have typed it with wrong grammar - I have realised it only now XD

[rose steppe]

im sowwy😇

[rose steppe]

im spreading love

🥰

[copper crane]

patcat @mossy cove

[lucid pike]

I didn't even notice twin no worries🥀😔

[smoky epoch]

You have administered 52 pats to @mossy cove's feline companion.

[mossy cove]

I'm not aish btw

[copper crane]

I know

[mossy cove]

Okie sus heir

[sonic ether]

prowler

[mossy cove]

How u been

[rose steppe]

can we all talk how gut is jjk?

[mossy cove]

Yes that's I am

[errant flicker]

No

[copper crane]

Alright I just ate some Filipino chicken wbu

[late forge]

achso. hast du planen für dein Zukunft?

[lucid pike]

yuki🤤

[sonic ether]

singst du gern

[rose steppe]

😞

[errant flicker]

Frieren S2 tho bro like holy cinema

[lucid pike]

GUYS

[rose steppe]

yuji?

[lucid pike]

GUYS

[mossy cove]

Going sleep

[sonic ether]

good boy :3

[mossy cove]

Will try

[lucid pike]

Have y'all watched JJBA part 7

[copper crane]

Gn8

[lucid pike]

Nono

[vale tiger]

Our lives belong to constant and all-consuming Love to everything what exists and doesn't exist!

[mossy cove]

Do I sing?

[lucid pike]

This woman

[sonic ether]

do u like to

[mint kelp]

Hi

[rose steppe]

ohhhhh the baddie blonde

[mossy cove]

Yesyes I do

[wet basin]

Ay bro, as long as it’s not British you good

[spare bison]

omg why no colors yo?

[copper crane]

Moin

[lucid pike]

YES

[sonic ether]

bro i replied to u already

[rose steppe]

is she strong i never saw her fighting?

[lucid pike]

Okay good night guys sleep tight🫂

[vale tiger]

What's wrong with British?

[mint kelp]

kannst du machen das ich in german only rein kann bitte

[sonic ether]

can u just stop with this?

[mossy cove]

Seems like u have experience w British dating

[lucid pike]

Yes yes yes

[late forge]

is a vintage meme

[olive goblet]

wsg wsg

[sonic ether]

niceee same

[mint kelp]

thx

[mossy cove]

Skey is a brit she can tell

[rose steppe]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1292968994592264273/1430177177080430612/dog.gif

[mossy cove]

Can you play guitar??

[late forge]

bro what

[ivory moat]

Natürlich, aber bin mir unsicher.

[modest fern]

Hi how can i get voice permmession

[sonic ether]

nooo me only know ukulele 😞😞

[late forge]

lowkey racism

[mossy cove]

I mostly sing main stream songs :3

[sonic ether]

samee

[cunning hinge]

High key I'd say even lol

[mossy cove]

Isn't that a tough instrument?

[sonic ether]

not rllyyy

[rose steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-rabbit-cute-yummy-strawberry-silly-gif-11015733056807198532

[late forge]

keine sorgen. Universität oder etwas anders

[sonic ether]

i like singing uno momento too

[mossy cove]

I wanna duo w someone who know how ot play guitar bc doing cover on karaoke is not that funn

[errant flicker]

Bro no perms

[ivory moat]

Höchstwahrscheinlich Universität.

[mossy cove]

What that means

[sonic ether]

uno momento is a serbian songgg

greeks will say its greek tho

[late forge]

gute Idee. Europa oder USA

[ivory moat]

Long words should be the least of your worries.

[mossy cove]

Ohh okayy

[errant flicker]

You have to learn Stardenburdernhardenbart. It's imperative to your learning

[meager raft]

Would it be fine if I sleep for only 3 hours tonight

[sonic ether]

listen to tamara by magazin

[mossy cove]

I can sing only English and Bangla songs

[vale tiger]

If you can use 4 strings to make a melody, why don't you expand towards more strings (the harp - NO) so the range of songs becomes larger?

[mossy cove]

Never tried hindi

But yeaah

[meager raft]

I can sing only instrumental

[merry crag]

🙄

[vale tiger]

Huh?

[mossy cove]

Okaay I will

[meager raft]

Beatboxing

[mossy cove]

U can play??

[sonic ether]

i hate the harp ngl its overrated and i dont like the sound at all 😭😭😭

[mossy cove]

Oh nvm

[errant flicker]

I am a German B2 and can assure you it is

[late forge]

Finanzdienstleistungsunternehmen

[meager raft]

With my mouth yea

[errant flicker]

It means to call over a cat

[spare bison]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gorilla-chimpanzee

[late forge]

RAUS keine harp hassen

[errant flicker]

Kinda like "here Kitty Kitty Kitty"

[late forge]

harp hassen ist verboten

[mossy cove]

Pspspspsppsps

[merry crag]

germans dont even speak fast

[errant flicker]

Genau

[late forge]

also it sounds fast because of the amount of syllables

[mossy cove]

Tsutsutsutsu

[golden pier]

hi everyone

[errant flicker]

Stardenburdenhardenbart
See? Flows like the wind

[vale tiger]

Teach me the arts of vast melodies made with your own voice! I want to learn expressing picturesque music whenever I want to be in the world of sounds independently from my devices!

[merry crag]

maybe if that were a real word

[mossy cove]

@sonic ether you listen to Spanish songs?

[ivory moat]

Vielleicht gleicht mein Plan deinem Plan. Während meines Grundstudiums studiere ich in den USA. Während meines Masterstudiums wäre das hoffentlich irgendwo in Europa bzw. Deutschland sein.

[mossy cove]

Salamalaikum Bruder

[steel zealot]

do germans really notice die/der in normal speech? like they kinda speak fast

[mossy cove]

Yes

[merry crag]

germans dont speak fast

[errant flicker]

Yes

[steel zealot]

ah its over

[errant flicker]

It's like one of those things that trip non-natived

Its a real tell

[mossy cove]

But it's not that deep

[merry crag]

Top Fastest Spoken Languages (Syllables per Second)

Japanese: ~7.84 syllables/sec
Spanish: ~7.82 syllables/sec
French:
~7.18 syllables/sec
Italian: ~6.99 syllables/sec
Portuguese: ~6.87 syllables/sec
Hindi: ~6.40 syllables/sec
English: ~6.19 syllables/sec

english is faster than german

[mossy cove]

Daym

[merry crag]

Mandarin Chinese, German, and Vietnamese
are frequently cited as some of the slowest-spoken languages in terms of syllables per second

[ivory moat]

Cite your sources.

[mossy cove]

Isn't it like everyone can speak their native language fast?

[steel zealot]

i mean im not skipping anything when it comes to learning the language, im starting to intuitively assume if the word uses der, die, and das accurately, so its not that hard, just keeps me on my toes for now

[sonic ether]

yessss

[merry crag]

my source is that german isnt fast

[errant flicker]

I wonder why Japanese speak so fast

[mossy cove]

You sing?

[vale tiger]

Native german sounds to me akin to sheer hills of voice, dividing the words with valleys of tiny silence, becoming loud if I try to repeat it myself

[steel zealot]

they dont

like irl they dont

[sonic ether]

mhmmm

[merry crag]

A 2011 study by researchers at the University of Lyon looked at seven different languages and ranked them on their syllables per second. Japan came out on top with 7.84 syllables per second, followed by Spanish (7.82 syllables per second), French (7.18), Italian (6.99), English (6.19), German (5.97), and Mandarin (5.18). @ivory moat

[sonic ether]

i mean like ill need the lyrics up yo

i aint fluentttt

[ivory moat]

I wanna read this study.

[cunning hinge]

Irrefutable

[errant flicker]

I feel like that study kinda disproves this statement... The structure simply baffels me.

[wet basin]

Arabic speech isn’t fast, but our words and sentences in general, so idk if that contributes to speed in any way

[errant flicker]

It would be super hard to speak Japanese quickly

[mossy cove]

Awwh nice im trnna do the cover of "telepathia" but yeah making those Spanish li es fluent is tough

[steel zealot]

errrrm this study is irrelevant, ive been to japan few times and have japanese friends, its a very clear language

[sonic ether]

havent heard ittt but i can do spanish

[merry crag]

i dont think u understand the difference between fast and clear

[steel zealot]

if anything they slow down on certain words

[mossy cove]

I seee

Okay chat now o sleep

[steel zealot]

i dont think you have a good reading comprehension, i already said they dont and gave other examples.

[cunning hinge]

I guess it's because some Japanese words are differentiated through tone and stress

[meager raft]

Finally

Thank god

[steel zealot]

thats not execlusive to japanese

[errant flicker]

Japanese music is crazy tho. I swear I've heard like Hatsune Miku spit out 3x quicker than Eminem

[cunning hinge]

Potaot

[merry crag]

a language can be very fast and very clear

[steel zealot]

thats not what we're discussing

[wet basin]

Most of the time German feels very fast and unclear

[steel zealot]

japanese is not a fast language

[errant flicker]

So fast I can't read ghe translated lyrics

[merry crag]

that just means ur not fluent

[late forge]

oooo. naja werde ich dir erzählen, welches Masters Abschluss in Deutschland ich wähle, wenn du möchtest

[merry crag]

its not about german its about you

[late forge]

@ivory moat

[meager raft]

That just means you are not a native

[late forge]

if i can get in

[errant flicker]

This

[late forge]

lol

[merry crag]

i had to endure listening to this schizophrenic person and bro was still clear too even with the mumbo jumbo

[meager raft]

You can never compete with someone speaking german since they were 2

[late forge]

^

[steel zealot]

its not about competing

[late forge]

ich?

jumbo

reference

[errant flicker]

They Don't know me son

[wet basin]

Well I’m not fluent, but most other languages feel so much easier to comprehend, I’ve only started Spanish and it feels easy to comprehend when I hear natives speak it, German sounds fast when I watch the videos on ig and people speak, it is so so fast

[merry crag]

lol

[steel zealot]

if you have decent pronunciation and accent and good command on the language, thats way more than enough

[errant flicker]

Spanish is like top 5 easiest language to learn

[steel zealot]

for English speakers

[rose steppe]

where the tuff ppl?

[errant flicker]

Good point

[wet basin]

Bro how is that relevant to what I’m saying 😭

[errant flicker]

German is like top 5 most difficult

[steel zealot]

English has to be the easiest

imo

[merry crag]

Hungarian is easier to comprehend? Georgian? Obviously you mean from the languages you have expierence.. and if you have more experience of course its easier to understand...

[errant flicker]

No.

[steel zealot]

English is very cavemany in its grammar

[merry crag]

Objectively true

[late forge]

bro have u ever talked to a real life mexican in spanish. its IMPOSSIble 😂

[merry crag]

yea spanish irl is a dif ballgame

[cunning hinge]

[merry crag]

ud be glad to come across mexican spanish everything else is harder

[wet basin]

I have little to no experience with Spanish, and almost 5 months of experience with German, I find Spanish easier to comprehend when it comes to like videos I see online, irl ofc German is easier because people usually speak at a somewhat moderate pace

[late forge]

i used to speak w coworkers in spanish but i forgot all of that shit now

sadly

[steel zealot]

just watch breaking bad

[merry crag]

Thats because english helps more with spanish than german

[wet basin]

One of my school teachers is from Spain, when she speaks it I do understand what she is saying to an extent because my vocab is limited, but she sounds really easy to comprehend

[errant flicker]

Take a look at Esperanto. I think you'll be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised If you could become fluent in less than 500 hours

[mossy cove]

You concerned about my sleep, max? So sweet

[merry crag]

90% of the actors spanish in BB is terrible

[cunning hinge]

I feel like Germanic languages have easier vocab than Romantic languages because of compound words

[errant flicker]

Bro no

[sonic ether]

how about toki pona

[errant flicker]

Gus isn't a spanish spesker but the rest are excellent

[merry crag]

thats objective its not my opinion

thats not even true

[cunning hinge]

Toki 👋

[merry crag]

hector is not good

[blazing swan]

I thought it was considered easy especially for english speakers due to how similar the vocabulary of both languages are

[wet basin]

German is literally a Germanic language the same as English and it shares much more words with German rather than Spanish?

[steel zealot]

no one speaks that shit 😭

[merry crag]

The words German shares are more academic, less common words

[sonic ether]

tokiii

[errant flicker]

I was watching a clip yesterday and thinking that "either this Guy speaks spanish or has an excellent accent"

[pine lion]

Whateuhell did I just read
There's a school where you have to pay first, then have to do a test, and after that, if you succeed the test, you'll be selected to get a chance to really go in this school
And
I have forgotten the big part, 8120€ PER YEAR FOR 4 YEARS/5 YEARS

[errant flicker]

The broken English was spot on for an American

[late forge]

american college moment

[sonic ether]

thats called an english university

[pine lion]

French school are free

[merry crag]

they both have around 40% shared anyway

[late forge]

germanic based languages >>latin based

[merry crag]

which guy

[wet basin]

Baby, Bank, Boot, Bus, Café, Club, Computer, Dschungel, E-Mail, Fan, Film, Finger, Fisch, Foto, Garten, Glas, Gold, Hand, Hotel, Hut, Information, Internet, Kind (almost), Lager, Lampe, Land, Mann, Musik, Name, Park, Radio, Restaurant, Ring, Rock, Sand, Schnitzel, Sport, Taxi, Team, Telefon, Tiger, Tour, Zoo are all shared nouns, those are basic

[errant flicker]

Hector

[steel zealot]

german isnt as hard as i thought it'd be

[smoky epoch]

@leaden niche, 6 months, 1 day and 11 hours ago

You asked to be reminded about "emoji statistics:imjustagirl: 👍🏼✨️"
[Jump to message](#general message)

Reminder created · Sep 28, 2025, 9:45 AM

[sonic ether]

so is german, so im getting germanised

[merry crag]

he has a bad accent lol

Actor's Background: Mark Margolis did not speak Spanish fluently in real life, leading to a noticeable American accent and sometimes stilted, slow, or imprecise pronunciation,

[steel zealot]

i think English should be the world's language

and everything else becomes secondary

[cunning hinge]

Lmao imagine some Cartel boss sounding like some hillbilly

[errant flicker]

If you think an American has a horrible English accent, that would show his acting is so on point, that you didn't notice he was a native

[wet basin]

German feels much easier on paper BECAUSE of English, at least to me

[errant flicker]

It's kinda like how House speaks perfect American

[wet basin]

No thank you

[errant flicker]

And then has to do a fake British accent

[merry crag]

i have no idea what this means

[merry crag]

its literally like the top 1 or 2 complaints about BB

im not stating my opinion

its agreed upon

[cunning hinge]

well it doesnt bother me as I dont notice it. But yeah I get mad too when shows make people speak my language with horrible accents

[errant flicker]

Imagine that you would speak your native language like you were a beginner, with an accent from another country's language you didn't. Wouldn't really be easy to be convincing

[surreal marlin]

m

[late forge]

kinda is bro

[errant flicker]

Also Hector has badass moments such as

1. failing to mog Lyle
2. being verbally brash
3. getting a heart attack

[late forge]

chinese should be the world language

[merry crag]

No, Mark Margolis was not Hispanic. He was an American actor born in Philadelphia to Jewish immigrants from Poland and Russia

[steel zealot]

fuck no

[merry crag]

idk what ur yapping about

[steel zealot]

chinese sounds so jarring

[late forge]

thai

[merry crag]

bro wasnt even hispanic

[steel zealot]

and is hard

[wet basin]

There should be no “world language”

[late forge]

thai music is fire

[errant flicker]

Yes.

[cunning hinge]

Lyle could've crushed Hector with 1% of his power if he wanted

[pine lion]

ni hao

[late forge]

yeah 100% agree

[late forge]

ni hao ma

[pine lion]

ni bu hen hao

[wet basin]

Wassap Beijing

[pine lion]

ni ne?

[late forge]

yi yi

[errant flicker]

He's a native, fluent in American English. It's so hard to do a Spanish accent that is convincing

[merry crag]

but isnt it easy?

[errant flicker]

You try doing it

[merry crag]

and this

[steel zealot]

just roll your R bro

easy

[pine lion]

for french speakers*

[merry crag]

I was told I sound like im from Puerto Rico

[late forge]

and english

[errant flicker]

Start spesking French with a heavy German accent and put that in front of hundreds of millions of people

[weary needle]

https://tenor.com/view/tuh-buh-guh-cuh-what-gif-9750912507529527670

[weary needle]

https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-cute-kitty-cat-pet-kitty-cat-staring-cute-smart-kitty-gif-4015118471520923470

[errant flicker]

Great

[pine lion]

and italian

[merry crag]

when i say the spanish in BB is bad its not my opinion its objective

you decided that objective is subjective

[steel zealot]

🤓

ITS OBJEKTIVE!

[pine lion]

OBJECTION !
as a phoenix would say

[late forge]

https://open.spotify.com/track/31lXNIWQW5jlsPeCcDzx8z?si=ZHJf4q2qR9OarIAuNI6oXQ

banger

[errant flicker]

I'm not going to entertain this any longer, I'll just state that you can't label opinions as objective. Anyways, great show!

I kinda want to watch it again

[merry crag]

mofos when presented with facts but ego is too big

could do 5 seconds of research from native spanish speakers to find out what they think

but its so important that you cant be wrong ig

[errant flicker]

Honestly like 80% of the desire is just to hear Hector say "De boss can sock me!"

And the rest is Jessie

Hmm

I wonder If there's a sub or something

[pine lion]

remind 20m take your antidepressant

[smoky epoch]

Okay @pine lion. You will be reminded in 20 minutes.

[errant flicker]

Maybe it'd be cool to watch it in German

[sonic ether]

remind 20m be fucking depressed

[smoky epoch]

Okay @sonic ether. You will be reminded in 20 minutes.

[errant flicker]

Honestly could be a nice spin

[pine lion]

this serv helps me to remember to take my pill and reminds me if i took it or not

[errant flicker]

Stronge

[sonic ether]

are you depressed because youre fr*nch

[errant flicker]

...

[sonic ether]

its okay im *nglish

[pine lion]

i'm depressed because i-
wait you know why i'm depressed

[sonic ether]

do i?

[hazy helm]

Hi

[sonic ether]

i dont think u told me

[late forge]

https://tenor.com/view/british-britsh-army-british-empire-gif-22812559

[sonic ether]

heres the alpha

[hazy helm]

Warum ich darf nicht rein kommen jau

[sonic ether]

was

[errant flicker]

Das stimme ich dir zu

[hazy helm]

Also in germany only kanal

Und die andern auch

[sonic ether]

no england 😞😞😞

only germany

[hazy helm]

This is germany

[errant flicker]

I am sorry I don't speak Deutschlanese

[sonic ether]

deutschland

[hazy helm]

😂😂

[merry crag]

Now do spanish

the list will be 10x

[sonic ether]

did you know in filipino, expression is ekspresyon

[steel zealot]

ladies ladies, youre both right

[merry crag]

isnt that turkish

[sonic ether]

its filipino

[errant flicker]

In Japanese you actually have to add a -dattebayo at the end of your sentences If you're confident. Kinda Bad for efficiency though.

[merry crag]

dang google pulls up turkish when u search it

[sonic ether]

that true la?

[errant flicker]

Yup

Hi-dattebayo

[sonic ether]

that so good kha

[pine lion]

you do

i think

[errant flicker]

I wish for you to become clear minded, and Happy in Life 🙂

I'm sorry wtf did I just process with my eyes

[merry crag]

im not trans and i do so sometimes too

so tell me whats wrong with it

[buoyant kestrel]

Why do I walk in on the worst shit every time

Mods kill this guy

[late forge]

🥀

[merry crag]

bro is brazilian

u dont like be singled out?

[buoyant kestrel]

Can’t even be a dick on his own acc

Smelllyyyyy

[merry crag]

u dont get a lot of things its ok

[buoyant kestrel]

You don’t like being made fun of for arbitrary things you have no control over?!?!?

[late forge]

was ist passieren

[pine lion]

i can not
she keeps haunting me
i have the feeling that i'm doomed since i know her
i can't be happy

and, the hell @opaque oak

[buoyant kestrel]

I’m literally professionally diagnosed bub

[late forge]

did bro even come here to learn german

[buoyant kestrel]

Bro came here to be lame as shit

[merry crag]

someone got jealous that artificial intelligence is so popular and had to show that his intelligence is even more fake than AI

[errant flicker]

Wait you're did? No way that's so cool

[buoyant kestrel]

!?? Tell that to the neuro-psych who diagnosed me???? I’m sure they’d love to know

What’s ur doctorate buddy

Bro just believes shit

[buoyant kestrel]

Ye

[errant flicker]

Idk If it's appropriate to Ask about the personalities? Im super curious, If you Don't mind, Luna.

[merry crag]

bro plays roblox

thats embarrassing

[errant flicker]

Why are you attacking somebody over roblox

[buoyant kestrel]

Happy to educate in dms but I’d rather leave out specifics on alters unless necessary to the topic at hand

[buoyant kestrel]

Cos hotcheeto breath

[merry crag]

actually this makes sense now

[tropic marsh]

Hi

[buoyant kestrel]

And swamp ass

[merry crag]

entropia and eclipse are together

i was wondering why there was a low intelligence

[buoyant kestrel]

<@&305455824174710787> this guy is soooo annoying

Boringgg

[merry crag]

jumbo mumbo

[late forge]

i play roblox sometimes 🥀

[errant flicker]

Eclipse wtf

[merry crag]

sure but ur cool so u only lose some aura that other bloke is at 0 aura and just goes negative

[late forge]

Priviet can u speak russian

[errant flicker]

That is so fucked up

[buoyant kestrel]

He’s just mad that his parents didn’t take the morning after pill

Because it’s sick as hell and makes you mad

[tropic marsh]

Yes

[late forge]

wait why is he even mad idk what happened

[merry crag]

bit hypocritical but the convo wont go anywhere so i shall atone for even partaking and ignore now

[late forge]

kak dela

[buoyant kestrel]

He’s mad minorities exist

[tropic marsh]

Good and you

[buoyant kestrel]

Mods please

[elfin forge]

<@&305455824174710787>

[late forge]

good good

[sonic ether]

doesnt everyone??

[buoyant kestrel]

I have quicker solutions irl

[sonic ether]

i do not think

[elfin forge]

Transphobia will not be tolerated here.

[errant flicker]

You know there are actually Intersting studies on how trans people are actually biologically caused to think they are in the "wrong gender". It's not really something thats "just in their heads"

[buoyant kestrel]

Don’t debate bro

[errant flicker]

Okay

Classic

[buoyant kestrel]

If that’s what makes you feel better abt getting your ass kicked by a girl then sure

[merry crag]

imma be honest sometimes if ur.. soemtimes u have to sit down he just isnt well.. enough to understand it quite frankly if u can read between the lines

[late forge]

chat rn

[buoyant kestrel]

Ay carbon indeed

[merry crag]

carbon

[elfin forge]

Don't engage, mods will be here soon. He's trying to make himself feel better.

[sonic ether]

i only dont in a school bathroom

bc like

[merry crag]

6️⃣ 7️⃣

[sonic ether]

its a school bathroom

[golden pier]

What the fuck is goin on here

<@&305455824174710787>

[buoyant kestrel]

Lowkey making me sad tho twin

[merry crag]

Ders n Kek

[golden pier]

Help us!

[elfin forge]

I know buddy

[errant flicker]

Cabron, I need to see your Boss

[buoyant kestrel]

Yay

[stuck yoke]

Thanks for the pings

[buoyant kestrel]

Mods got him

[late forge]

https://tenor.com/view/snatchedup-snatched-bag-over-head-funny-kidnap-gif-15980566315626205368

bro

[buoyant kestrel]

I just wanna exist man

[merry crag]

Why are they called leer if i feel whole again when they are here?

[sonic ether]

the mind is the other gender but the hormones are not or smth

[errant flicker]

Kinda valid tho

[buoyant kestrel]

What part?

[elfin forge]

Completely valid

[sonic ether]

i dont need to read biology to know im trans and valid 😭😭😭

[errant flicker]

Uhhh yeah idk something like that

I aint no scientist

I just watched a 20 min video

[steel zealot]

that guy was nasty

[buoyant kestrel]

Man thinks my entire life experience will be ripped to shreds by one troll

[smoky epoch]

@pine lion, 20 minutes ago

You asked to be reminded about "take your antidepressant"
[Jump to message](#general message)

Reminder created · Mar 29, 2026, 9:55 PM

[sonic ether]

i know 2 cheese scientists maybe they can help

[smoky epoch]

@sonic ether, 19 minutes and 59 seconds ago

You asked to be reminded about "be fucking depressed"
[Jump to message](#general message)

Reminder created · Mar 29, 2026, 9:56 PM

[buoyant kestrel]

I know zero scientist but one omniscient mouse

[steel zealot]

i mean i have a question or two regarding transgenderism but i try not to ask every trans person i see because it might be bothersome, the way that guy went about it was totally closed minded

[buoyant kestrel]

His names Derrick

[errant flicker]

I'll definitely take you up on that. I need specifics on my cheez cultivation

[sonic ether]

whats up?

[sonic ether]

alright, add me and dm the questions ill get u some answers

[buoyant kestrel]

“Transgenderism” should generally be avoided as a term, it implies that it’s some ideology, which it most definitely is not

[errant flicker]

Wait no way actually?

[buoyant kestrel]

I’m also willing to answer questions

[sonic ether]

yeah sure

[steel zealot]

like how can a person know they're the opposite gender if they didn't percieve life/have lived experience as the other gender, and ik gender is a social construct, but i believe it is tied to sexual attributes

[buoyant kestrel]

It’s deep, personal feeling that is different for everyone but the solution is quite obvious

I know I’m a woman in the same way you know you’re you’re gender

[elfin forge]

This might be a discussion for #1025098221653073940 or DMs

[steel zealot]

do you think you'd have the same conviction if you lived in a world where women didn't exist?

i dont wanna have a long topic about this

[buoyant kestrel]

Another reminder I’m banned from the sensitive topics channel

[errant flicker]

Recent studies claim that trans people have something that makes them identical like biological men in some ways or something. Being in a female body then messed with that

[steel zealot]

since this isnt the server's topic

[errant flicker]

Broo...

[pine lion]

a girl used to use me as a backup when she had no other boyfriend, she "loved" me, broke up with me when someone else came to go with him, having fun etc with those ass, and as a flower, she went back to me to break up when someone else appears, that's 6 times during those 6 years
urg
and other things about her i cannot talk about
"she tortured me, a toxic relationship" words of my psys

[pine lion]

toook it

[buoyant kestrel]

My crimes did not go unpunished 😔

[sonic ether]

it definitely can be based on social constructs in a way because what is felt as a trans person is linked to this stereotypical image of a girl you think of, upset with your body, wanting to look like the other gender, a lot of signs but idk

[steel zealot]

@sonic ether

[errant flicker]

I think so definitely

[sonic ether]

girl what did u do 😭😭

[errant flicker]

Although I don't have anything practical to show for it haha

[buoyant kestrel]

I was like 16/17 and very political and often got overly heated abt it

Nothing like morally wrong or anything

Just not able to be civil

Bc mentally ill teenager

[sonic ether]

i mean i guess the closest to a transgirl u can get is a femboy right, although in that world there arent women, it would just be called something else but have the same style right

[buoyant kestrel]

I think in a world without gender you would just exist

Gender being a social construct doesn’t really take away the impact of the system on the individual

[plucky zenith]

Lmao 😂

[steel zealot]

interesting, same style? i doubt it, skirts for example were for men in the beginning, but got changed later into a feminine clothing

[errant flicker]

I kinda have the impression a femboy is a lot different from a trans woman

[sonic ether]

in finnish, everyone has the same pronoun "hän"

[steel zealot]

if gender is not an objective solid attribute, how can you identify your reality over it, or know inherently that you belong to it, considering its ever changing and sometimes blends

[sonic ether]

it is yeah but the cultures are really similar

[buoyant kestrel]

There are studies that show trans people’s brains match typical constructions expected of their desired gender/sex

[sonic ether]

i wanna do that study, i could get euphoria

[errant flicker]

And then every profession is just managerman
Firefighterman
Fischerman

[buoyant kestrel]

Money isn’t a solid attribute yet people still go to work, they live their whole lives around it

[steel zealot]

thats a false analogy im afraid

[buoyant kestrel]

It’s… not?

[sonic ether]

you can definitely live without earning money, just be a farmer lol

[steel zealot]

money is tied to a global economical ledger with mathmatical value

[errant flicker]

This is getting a bit heated...

[buoyant kestrel]

And you can live without gender too

[errant flicker]

Let's not go into facts and what are the truths about being trans

[sonic ether]

it isnttt

[elfin forge]

Eventually there does come a time where I think you'd need money

Like if you got sick or something

[sonic ether]

to buy a new sheep?

[steel zealot]

i mean im respectful and i have no strong opinions about the idea of transgenderism

[errant flicker]

Gotta spot the warning signs early 😉

[tidal pivot]

Not if you live as a nomad

[elfin forge]

No but like if you need something you just don't have

[sonic ether]

eh we all die at some point

[elfin forge]

I guess but that is preventable if you have at least some money saved away

[sonic ether]

you cant be immortal

[stuck yoke]

I believe someone told you a few minutes ago why this term is incorrect and you shouldn't use it

[elfin forge]

I think that is the ideal but there also is a necessity to money even if you live outside of society

[steel zealot]

they didnt provide an alternative wording so

[buoyant kestrel]

Truth about being trans is that decades of research shows that trans people are happier and more fulfilled after transitioning. It brings a sense of comfort that no other treatment for gender dysphoria can. It genuinely doesnt matter how others feel abt it bc trans people are autonomous beings with their own right to self determination

[polar galleon]

Hili

[elfin forge]

You at least need something you can trade

[errant flicker]

I love this!

[elfin forge]

Which in the old days, a farmer had all the food so he could trade easily

But now you kinda need money

[buoyant kestrel]

[tidal pivot]

I second that

[stuck yoke]

Did you ask? Just using it again and putting the blame on your conversation partner is quite a rude thing to do.

[sonic ether]

can i use communism yo /j

[polar galleon]

Felixism

[elfin forge]

Which you can sell your food for and hide it away i think you can totally keep money as a necessity and keep yourself distant from it
But you gotta have some

[steel zealot]

i personally dont think that word is rude, and if they wanted to correct me then they shouldve told me what to use instead not just object about a mis-wording and not say anything

[buoyant kestrel]

Awesomeepicism

[steel zealot]

everyone is entitled to their opinion as long as you dont have ill intent

[stuck yoke]

Don't use that word here.

[buoyant kestrel]

You also aren’t affected by the social consequences of that word

[errant flicker]

Well, my name is Skyler White yo

[steel zealot]

what word makes you less "affected"

[errant flicker]

My husbsnd is Walter White, Yo.

Uh-huh

He told me everything

[buoyant kestrel]

Yo, mama

[stuck yoke]

Why put that in quotes?

[sonic ether]

nah yk what

im done defending this geezer

[steel zealot]

luna is not being respectful now

[tidal pivot]

Hey, thats rather rude tbh

[buoyant kestrel]

Bc ur a geezer!

[errant flicker]

Who says the word geezer like what 💀

[buoyant kestrel]

Non geezers

[tidal pivot]

just ask normally, there is no problem with making a mistake if you corrects it

[steel zealot]

i dont relate to being affected by a normal general word, so to me it seems like a foreign concept so i quoted it

[cunning hinge]

Geese

[sonic ether]

u want me to say bloke instead?

[stuck yoke]

You are the one being disrespectful and even transphobic. This is your last warning to consider your language carefully.

[steel zealot]

how am i being transphobic

lol

[stuck yoke]

Ok I see how it is

[steel zealot]

??

[errant flicker]

Call them bald or something, thats what the Kids these days are into, no?

[sonic ether]

my friend has a fear of bald gay men

[buoyant kestrel]

“Just asking questions” but in reality trying to debate our existence rather than actually trying to be educated

[tidal pivot]

ok, but let him at least know what hes doing

[glass lagoon]

Thats an oddly specific combination

[sonic ether]

right

[buoyant kestrel]

Something must have happened

[cunning hinge]

Yeah rub their head and you'll become clairvoyant

[stuck yoke]

He could if he had actual interest in doing that.

[glass lagoon]

Hair loss happened

[stuck yoke]

He already displayed his unwillingness to listen.

[buoyant kestrel]

I fuckin hate people man

[sonic ether]

he was born bald and became gay

[buoyant kestrel]

Literally just existed btw

[tidal pivot]

Maybe he had, I have treated with people like him who were genuinely confused, al though he might have known too

[sonic ether]

me irl

[buoyant kestrel]

[cunning hinge]

What did Seb say a slur or something?

[stuck yoke]

We are not here to hold the hands of "confused" people

[buoyant kestrel]

No but he was being a pretty big dick abt the whole topic

[errant flicker]

Bro this is a German learning server...

[cunning hinge]

Ahhh I see yeah I missed the whole thing thx

[late forge]

lass uns deutsch sprechen

[tidal pivot]

Will he not just do it again if he really doesnt get it?

[errant flicker]

Klar

[polar galleon]

[tidal pivot]

ok, I agree, srry

[vernal apex]

no one's learning shit in #general xd

[buoyant kestrel]

Yeah it was a whole thing and it started with a guy who actually was saying slurs

[errant flicker]

Fair point!

[stuck yoke]

If he does it he will be banned. Your point?

[errant flicker]

Maybe the front door should be #nur-deutsch

[cunning hinge]

Ohhh damn

[buoyant kestrel]

Ye

[glass lagoon]

Genau lass uns über Krapfen vs. Berliner vs. Pfannenkuchen streiten xD

[tidal pivot]

I meant other servers, I am not defending him, but maybe if he didnt really understand he will keep it up somewhere else, or in real life even

[buoyant kestrel]

And he was trying to convince me my medical diagnosis from a literal doctor was fake lmao

[polar galleon]

Felix can teach you High Valyrian

[vernal apex]

no thanks

[cunning hinge]

Hahahaha

[stuck yoke]

It's not our job to reform people

[tidal pivot]

Ok, I did not see that, so maybe its just that ._.

[buoyant kestrel]

The guy doing that got banned so

That’s probably why

[polar galleon]

Li do I still have the banhammer

[buoyant kestrel]

Don’t hit me

[errant flicker]

Bruder was ist mit Pistazienfüllung, es ist immer da, aber schmeckt Soo komisch

[stuck yoke]

Now it's time to change the topic

[elfin forge]

he used an outdated term after being informed it was offensive by a trans person, said that was a matter of opinion, and then kept arguing about it. bringing it up further is pointless

ya

lass uns deutsch

[late forge]

neuer thema

[elfin forge]

das computer

lmfao

we forgot how

[glass lagoon]

Also Senf umd Marmelade als Füllung kenn ich aber Pistazie ist bestimmt wild

[late forge]

was ist dein lieblingsfilm

[polar galleon]

Switch those genders and it'll be right

[errant flicker]

Es war überall im München

[tidal pivot]

Hatt mann heiligewoche auf Deutschland?

[cunning hinge]

Guess we're staying on topic that way :p

[elfin forge]

wahrscheinlich "Ferris macht blau" mit Matthew Broderick

[elfin forge]

Ja, es gibt auch Heilige Woche in Deutschland

viele Katholikern in deutschland

[glass lagoon]

Ok keine Ahnung die sind alle komisch da unten (meine Meinung)

[elfin forge]

Felix du hast dies mir geratet

diesen Name

[tidal pivot]

Feiern die protestanten nicht? warum?

[elfin forge]

ja wahrscheinlich auch

[glass lagoon]

Seltener. Man ist freier in dee Art wie man religiös feiert im Protestantentum

[elfin forge]

ja es ist anders ueberall
manche ja, manche nein

in protestantentum

[glass lagoon]

Karfreitag und Ostern feiert man aber fast überall

[elfin forge]

Ja Karfreitag Osten Weihnachten glaube ich

immer

but also karfreitag is a pretty catholic thing

anglican as well

[tidal pivot]

Freue heiligewoche btw :3

[elfin forge]

freue heilige Woche!

[polar galleon]

Idt thats the right verb

[buoyant kestrel]

Was ist eigentlich heilige Woche

[elfin forge]

Catholics are fascinated by the crucifixion, Protestants generally focus on the resurrection theology

[glass lagoon]

Man sagt eher "frohe heilige Woche"

[tidal pivot]

Do protestant churches not have a crucified Jesus in the back?

[glass lagoon]

They do

[tidal pivot]

Why say "freue weihnacht" but then say "frohe heilige Woche"?

[elfin forge]

in anglicanism i dont know, they are very close to catholic vibes?

but a lot of protestant denominations will simply have a bare cross

without christ

[glass lagoon]

Its also "frohe Weihnachten"

[late forge]

are you catholic?

[pine lion]

I need someone to talk with-

[tidal pivot]

oh, ok thanks

[elfin forge]

yes i was raised catholic

[late forge]

nice

[elfin forge]

depends on the day

lol

[ivory moat]

I went to an Episcopal church and recall there being a crucified Jesus on the cross.

[buoyant kestrel]

Catholic every day but Tuesday

[ivory moat]

Used to scare me as a child.

[buoyant kestrel]

Tuesdays my cheat day

Jk im not actually catholic

[elfin forge]

i think the older the tradition the more they kind of embrace that

i think the regular cross is a more modern protestant idea

which like priests wear crosses

but the one on the wall

like the older traditions are pretty much catholic in all but pope

and sometimes mary

usually without the saints

[pine lion]

I might do something dumb

[tidal pivot]

Back home we had rosaries where you would get a new bead everytime you did something good (like remembering a prayer or helping a student) kinda like stars

[elfin forge]

actually not usually
sometimes as well

[tidal pivot]

r u fine?

[elfin forge]

aw thats cute

[pine lion]

Mentally I'm in crisis

[elfin forge]

ya its a good vibe
i fell out of it when i was younger but i've really grown to appreciate it

[tidal pivot]

Ok, just remember most mistakes are made in these kind of situations, so dont do anything drastic

whats happening?

[errant flicker]

Yo I literally do not know you but If you need someone to talk through, maybe se could hop in a vc or a Call? Of course feel free to decline. No worries bro

[tidal pivot]

If you need anyone to talk to, look for someone you feel comfortable with, we wont pressure you into anything

[elfin forge]

Fat Tuesday!

Mardi Gras!

[marble swallow]

Hi

[errant flicker]

Not a bee is typing... 👀

[pine lion]

I-
My family is pissing me off
My mental state is ruined since so many years I just want it to stop, traumatismes, my life is falling a part, mistakes on mistakes on mistakes
I need something to be happy
I'm crying, I cannot breath
I'm-
I can't

[errant flicker]

You absolutely need someone to talk to

[tidal pivot]

Ok, why do you believe your life is falling apart? is it something you cant come back from?

[hearty galleon]

Hallo everyone

[errant flicker]

I don't think a public German learning front door is the place for this

I urge you to confide in someone, preferably irl

[tidal pivot]

Thats true too, but for the moment being, try to keep calm

[errant flicker]

Dm's are probably fine too

[tidal pivot]

and do that if able

There is also a hotline for this kind of thing, A friend went through something similar, it doesnt look like it but those hotlines do help a lot

[pine lion]

I'll call a therapist tomorrow to take a meeting

[errant flicker]

Will that be early enough?

[tidal pivot]

will you be fine until tomorrow?

[pine lion]

I did some bad thing a month ago
I'm having so much guilt that I'm on antidepressants, but it doesn't work

[pine lion]

At the morning I'll call them

[pine lion]

It's sleep time right now

[tidal pivot]

The way I see it, its fine to feel guilty, but at the end of the day, u made a choice maybe because it seemed rational at the time, so maybe its better to own to it and keep living

[errant flicker]

Uhh this is dangerous

[polar galleon]

while i understand you're in a distressed situation, you're potentially breaking #rules 2

this is not the place for this

we're just German learners, not psychotherapists

[tidal pivot]

I was just giving my point of view, so i recognize you shoul maybe wait for tomorrow

[tidal pivot]

srry

[polar galleon]

i advice you seek out professional help if you are able. otherwise, let's stop it there

time for a topic change

cat

[errant flicker]

Quite the hot shot, huh?

I do unfortunately agree with you cautiously

[pine lion]

I'm sorry for the disturbance
I'll get sleep
Sorry sorry

[polar galleon]

i hope u feel better

enjoy lucario eating berries

https://giphy.com/gifs/pokemon-lucario-and-the-mystery-of-mew-3BwNcKOTAVWBa

[errant flicker]

Damn bro all of these topics are REALLY distracting from learning German like what

I mean it's general tho

[polar galleon]

ah yes. lemme teach everyone some german

[errant flicker]

Yes

[tidal pivot]

please

[errant flicker]

Teach us what stardenburdenhardenbart means

[polar galleon]

the german particle ''halt'' can mean ''just'' in the same way as you might express a ''shrug''

''it's just like that'' = ''es ist halt so''

[tidal pivot]

Or rindfleischeticketierungüberwaschungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetzt

[errant flicker]

No ew

[copper crane]

No.

[polar galleon]

No.

[errant flicker]

Everyone knows what the minced beef labelling act means

[polar galleon]

Minced?!?!

[tidal pivot]

What does it mean ._.?

an austrian friend sent it to me once and i just remembered it

[errant flicker]

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz

[polar galleon]

ah yes, the old sending an entire website in german to a bunch of german beginners

that's gonna be helpful

[tidal pivot]

it wasnt

[errant flicker]

Idk where I got the minced Part

[tidal pivot]

but thx tho

[polar galleon]

color me shocked

[errant flicker]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rinderkennzeichnungs-_und_Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz

Bro you won't believe this

There's an English article

[tidal pivot]

Man, I am still learning artikels

[polar galleon]

what do u mean u can't read an impossibly long german word already

https://giphy.com/gifs/Kosmikbrands-salesgoat-kosmik-kosmikbrands-muJtjFtlHcJoYRJI2Z

[tidal pivot]

Oh, I can, but its them artikels that worry me

like, I have to memorize every artikel for each word with their variations and diferent uses? thats torture, and the hardest part of german

[errant flicker]

Überwachungsaufgabenübertrsgungsgesetz does indeed sound scary

[glass lagoon]

Me too over 20 years and i still dont know the Artikel of nutella

[polar galleon]

a lot of it will become natural once u interact more with the language. german cases can tell u a lot about potential noun genders

[errant flicker]

Rindfleischetikettierung is pretty cute tho

[tidal pivot]

was it not das?

[polar galleon]

der/die/das Nutella?

yes

[ember hill]

Wen kümmert es die Wörter so verdammt lange sind!?

[buoyant kestrel]

firm believer in Die because Nutella is an Italian brand and in Italian it’s la Nutella

[tidal pivot]

I still have nightmares with Das mädchen

[glass lagoon]

Its not wrong, but i dont know if its right tho

[ember hill]

Whoops
Added 2 das lol

[tidal pivot]

Its La nutela in spanish too, but usually for words brought from other languages we use "das" like in "Das computer"

right?

[polar galleon]

wenn/dass is needed

[polar galleon]

*der Computer

[errant flicker]

She crazy or sum?

[ember hill]

I Tried to say „WHO cares IF the words are so damn long“

[errant flicker]

It stands for German
Die Nutella, die

[tidal pivot]

As a spaniard I find the word a lovecraftian horror

[polar galleon]

1. it was wrong
2. it doesn't make sense anyway

[tidal pivot]

what do you mean "Lo niña?????"

I cant translate my confusion to english, srry

[ember hill]

Yeah I know

My German is still Quite Bad and only got a Boost in some vocab aye give me a few months
I can actually start to make some semblance

[elfin forge]

Lo, upon the breach

[ember hill]

Masculine girl lol

[elfin forge]

Niña

[tidal pivot]

u tried tho, thats important

[buoyant kestrel]

Loan words from languages with gender often keep their gender when brought over to German

[tidal pivot]

its worse, cause its on neutral, we only use that in spanish for like 3 terms from latin

[buoyant kestrel]

It’s not a universal rule but it’s quite common

[ember hill]

Is sein mean be?

Does*

[tidal pivot]

My mistake, its just something my old german teacher told me once

[ember hill]

Zu sein
To be

[polar galleon]

i recommend u switch ur role to A level in id:customize

[glass lagoon]

Ja

[wintry summit]

Goten morgen

[buoyant kestrel]

zu*

[tidal pivot]

Gluten morgen (its like 3 am here)

[errant flicker]

Sein is actually a character in Frieren: beyond Journey's end.

[buoyant kestrel]

German doesn’t use “zu” or “to” I’m the base form of verbs. You just use the -en form. Which for sein is just sein

[polar galleon]

i've never seen the show but Frieren is a verb in german

[glass lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/goon-viking-sigurd-gif-25509446

[ember hill]

Its Sad because I been learning for 4 years and have over 50 pages of nothing but words and grammar and I still am in fact a beginner who knows only slightly more than a person who doesn't speak 😭

[wintry summit]

It is morgen somewhere

[errant flicker]

Bro you should see it, the names are hilarious

[tidal pivot]

Thou seeth the glass half full

[buoyant kestrel]

Übung macht den meister

[errant flicker]

Like the Warrior frontliner is "Stark" a tsun is "Fern" etc.

[ember hill]

Meanwhile people who been learning German for less than I have are able to conversate in it and understand it
It's the worstt

[worldly musk]

I found out not long ago that there are some german words that sound like english words but mean something different

[ember hill]

False cognates

[errant flicker]

At some point there comes an eccentric character whose name is Herr Lügner

[worldly musk]

Fahrt means trip

[tidal pivot]

They often share etymological backgrounds tho

[wintry summit]

The glass is full and empty until you check on it ~isaaq newton

[ember hill]

😂

[worldly musk]

and the word thick means the d word

[glass lagoon]

Its all about how much you are forced to use it (and how old you are)

[wintry summit]

Wie ist siene hobbies leute?

[tidal pivot]

Yeah, but see it as "seefarer", and start to see the resemblance

[buoyant kestrel]

Du darfst einfach dick sagen

[polar galleon]

man darf dick sein

[errant flicker]

Doch

[polar galleon]

du kannst micht nicht dochen

[errant flicker]

Mann muss Dick sein

[errant flicker]

Doch

[copper crane]

https://tenor.com/view/amberlynn-reid-amber-lynn-hamburger-mcdonalds-cheeseburger-gif-17939065

[ember hill]

I started learning at 14 and now I'm 18

And yeah I haven't been forced to use it

Even the native speakers I have access to would rather switch to english than try to let me speak German so the most I could do is hop on German servers and try my luck there

[copper crane]

Are you American by chance

[tidal pivot]

quick tip: Tug bedeutet von haarbruche gemacht auf Mongolia :3

[wintry summit]

It is a matter of necessity really

[buoyant kestrel]

Je dicker der Mann, desto wohler seine Seele

[worldly musk]

and handy means cellphone

[errant flicker]

Up until like high B1 Don't Even try it with natives lmao

[wintry summit]

Ich lebe mangolia?

Du know Genghis khan?

[copper crane]

You can get to a high level with self-study, you don’t need a study partner or anything until you want to perfect pronunciation etc

[errant flicker]

Theyll just ignore you or something haha

[tidal pivot]

what .-.?

[copper crane]

I mean it’s just logical lol

[wintry summit]

Sprechen sie deutch?

[tidal pivot]

Dschingish khan is ein tolles man

[copper crane]

If they speak C2 American English and you speak A1 German

[errant flicker]

Deutsch*

[copper crane]

Of course they will speak English

[tidal pivot]

Ein kleines bischen

[errant flicker]

Yes

[wintry summit]

Ja ja

Guess where am i from

[ember hill]

I eventually learned that so I pretty much decided to just start from scratch and learn by myself before even deciding to speak

And then I just got tired of that and came here for some sense of direction

[tidal pivot]

Kommen Sie aus Mongolia?

[wintry summit]

The last country for the mangolian empire to reach

[wintry summit]

Nein

[buoyant kestrel]

Ngl learning with zero conversational practice is a fools errand

[tidal pivot]

Polen? oder irak?

[random frost]

Hungary

[wintry summit]

Ägypren

[buoyant kestrel]

You brain needs something concrete to relate the information you learned to

[tidal pivot]

Oh, when it had the middle eastern area with the mameluks?

[errant flicker]

Bro my friend passed the Goethe B2 test in 6 months from just chatgpt and frequency dictionaries.
Although he makes some horrific errors sometimed

[buoyant kestrel]

Otherwise it’s just concepts that hold no real world value, and are therefore easily forgotten

[wintry summit]

Ja it was the sultan seif el dein kutoz

Genuinely fearless fighters ngl

[copper crane]

Ike YouTube videos for example!

[tidal pivot]

Thats pretty cool, he did retake his lands later if i remember correctly

[buoyant kestrel]

Chat gpt is kinda like a speach partner, in a limited sense

[buoyant kestrel]

YouTube is good yeah

I like simplissimus

[wintry summit]

Ye ye

[tidal pivot]

They were, and are, some of the proudest and great people there are

Al though I only got to know a few a while back

[paper grail]

Hello!

[buoyant kestrel]

Moral is just writing stuff down won’t really help unless you tie it to something real. Books, movies, conversations, music, etc.

[tidal pivot]

Hallo

[glass lagoon]

They have pretty advanced vocabulary and grammar now so i wouldnt recommend for someone below B2

[wintry summit]

Interesting btw do of mangolians know archery?

[errant flicker]

Arguably it's way better, as it's native level/scholar, but it sometimes makes huge reasoning errors

[glass lagoon]

Kurzgesagt mght be more suitable

[paper grail]

Completely new to the server. I want to get started on learning german. No clue where to get started.

[knotty meteor]

r u a native speaker?

[wintry summit]

Claude ai actually has some chritical thinking

[polar galleon]

ex ai

[smoky epoch]

**AI-generated text**

This FAQ explains rules and advice for using text AI tools such as ChatGPT.

🔹 **Server rules regarding this topic:**

• Do not answer any questions by using AI-generated text.
• Do not ask for AI-generated text to be corrected.

🔹 **Problems with using AI for answers and corrections**

• No fact-checking: Tools like ChatGPT are very good at writing texts and often provide answers that sound good, but they are not capable of fact-checking their own answers.

• Fake information: It’s very common for these programs to make up fake or incomplete information, which is explained convincingly but is mostly wrong.

• Non-deterministic: The information is also partially randomly generated, meaning that if you ask the same question multiple times, you will usually end up with different answers.

• No language knowledge: It shouldn't be used for grammar or vocabulary questions, as it doesn't understand linguistics, nuance, or how a native speaker might actually use a given word or grammar point.

• Missing context: When correcting texts it needs to understand what the writer was trying to express. As such it may miss mistakes or correct things that don't need to be corrected.

🔹 **Reasons NOT to use generative AI for learning**

• It delays the development of important skills in language learning.
  Relying too much on AI generated texts or solutions may get in the way of learning the necessary skills of language acquisition, such as how to look up words or phrases in a dictionary, using critical thinking, or actually applying learned concepts.

• AI is not designed to guide learners.
  If you ask an AI a question, it will provide you with information, whereas if you ask a human, they will ideally ask you to show your understanding and offer advice on how to find the answer.

• AI output requires scrutiny
  AI output must be verified, but beginners to German or to language learning often lack the knowledge or experience to do so.

🔹 **Good uses of AI-generated text**

• Ask ChatGPT to come up with some story ideas that you can write about.

[copper crane]

faq resources

[smoky epoch]

Resources

Here's a link to our curated list of resources: https://bit.ly/gladresources. Check out #resources if you want to submit some yourself!

[buoyant kestrel]

I would sooner learn from a guy I met in the slums. His language will at least have soul

[polar galleon]

pls don't recommend ai for languages

[glass lagoon]

Or "Sendung mit der Maus" or something

[paper grail]

where is this

[tidal pivot]

The ones I met did not, they were music teachers who tried to teach me a bit about throat singing, but I have hear the practive of horse archery is maintained there

[ember hill]

Yeah I fell to using chat gpt for that

I needed something to expose me more to German and just make me use more words so I can get corrections

Since I forgot about 80% of the words I learned throughout the years since I had no real way to use them
And only kept maybe the basics

But chat gpt is also at times hard to trust
I don't know what's right or wrong and it tends to make a lot of mistakes or just say complete nonsense

[glass lagoon]

Yes🫡

[polar galleon]

what do u mean

it's on this server

on the internet

on earth

[paper grail]

there's like a hundred channels

[polar galleon]

in the solar system

[errant flicker]

I mean he did get from 0 to B2 in six months. Sure there might be a lot of problems but it genuinly is a valuable tool

[copper crane]

The foreign languages that I have learned, I had not practiced with real people until I was not terrible in them. This was also before ChatGPT. So you really don’t need to travel to a country, or talk with a native speaker, etc if you can use internet resources. Now if you want to, that’s up to you.

[wintry summit]

So cool these are some of the toughest sports ever

[polar galleon]

did u try clicking on it?

[errant flicker]

Fair

[tidal pivot]

Im gonna log of

[ember hill]

This is all so tricky
I need someone to tell me what to do

[errant flicker]

O7

[tidal pivot]

have a good night everyone

[buoyant kestrel]

I think you came to the right place, there is an endless amount of people here who are proficient in German, native or otherwise who are more than happy to guide you along your journey

[tidal pivot]

happy holy week

[paper grail]

you going to be an smartarse or are you going to help me find the channel?

[ember hill]

I honestly might do that

[copper crane]

faq resources

[smoky epoch]

Resources

Here's a link to our curated list of resources: https://bit.ly/gladresources. Check out #resources if you want to submit some yourself!

[copper crane]

Read that

[paper grail]

ty

[buoyant kestrel]

Start with Nico’s weg

[paper grail]

very helpful ty

[wintry summit]

It is soo boring tbh

[buoyant kestrel]

faq Nicos

[smoky epoch]

Nicos

Nicos Weg is a free online program aimed at helping people learn German. It includes video, audio, text, grammar explanations, notes, vocabulary, and exercises. It also includes very useful cultural and bureaucratic information, such as how to open a bank account, while teaching you the relevant grammar and vocabulary.

It’s fairly popular and well-recommended, but keep in mind that you can’t learn a language with only one resource, even if it’s a good one!

You can find the program here: https://learngerman.dw.com/en/nicos-weg/c-36519789

You can also see various other courses for learners by dw.com here: https://learngerman.dw.com/en/overview/

[buoyant kestrel]

Canceled

I love nicos

[polar galleon]

#general message did u not see it the first times?

[wintry summit]

I can't get myself to continue a lesson

[ember hill]

I also tried Duolingo which.. I honestly still am

So much of the stuff I already knew so I just skipped like 10 lessons with ease but
People always say that it isn't helpful and too repetitive

[buoyant kestrel]

I sometimes go back and watch it lol

[copper crane]

Duo sux

[wintry summit]

Ever tried language transfer?

[buoyant kestrel]

Nope

[paper grail]

I took german in high school, so I have a basic grasp of the language and had a lot of fun learning. I memorized a lot of words, but stopped.

[ember hill]

Nico wef

[errant flicker]

Whats that

[paper grail]

Jesus that was three years ago.

[ember hill]

Hmmmm

[paper grail]

forgot a lot of it

[ember hill]

Also btw yes I'm American

[wintry summit]

It is one of the msot underrated free courses out there

[buoyant kestrel]

I’ll be sure to recommend it

[ember hill]

An American who has never stepped foot out of the country T T
I wanna get out! I'm trapped!

[polar galleon]

idk y u feel the need to call me a smartass. the link was there all along

[buoyant kestrel]

You and me both twin

[wintry summit]

He explains languages in a logical sense truly an enjoyable course

[copper crane]

What time is it where you are

[paper grail]

question

how do study groups work?

[ember hill]

19:29

[paper grail]

wait there's a question channel

i should ask there no?

[copper crane]

You just chat

[wintry summit]

Ein und dreißif minuten

[copper crane]

It’s just a discord chat

Vc

[paper grail]

obv

but

[buoyant kestrel]

It’s 18:30 in Minnesota

[copper crane]

There’s not necessary any study

[paper grail]

do i just grab random people

[copper crane]

In there

[polar galleon]

okay so u call people a smartass and then ignore them, ok

[copper crane]

No you just hop in

[paper grail]

I see

ty

very helpful

[ember hill]

I'm thinking about joining a study group VC
But I don't even know what goes on

[copper crane]

You just chat in a discord vc

Not rlly and y study

[grizzled dragon]

@smoky epoch PSR and Parmenidean Ascent by. Michael Della Rocca

[polar galleon]

anything u want it to be

[ember hill]

Yeah fair

[knotty meteor]

u just talk

[ember hill]

🎅🏿

[copper crane]

Ya it’s just discord chat nothing rlly special haha

[paper grail]

i assumed

[polar galleon]

it could be called ''Study Room owned by Felix''

[paper grail]

i just wondered if we needed to find a study group of similar level or smth

[copper crane]

No

You can just listen to natives if u want

[paper grail]

that's helpful to hear

[copper crane]

Or wtv

[paper grail]

natives helping german beginners for free is very generous of them

[ember hill]

Alright well.
From. Today on
In order to become the mehrsprachig konig I can be
German is first on my list and I shall study it for at least an hour a day

[paper grail]

ty whoever you german speakers are

i'm gonna try for two hours

[copper crane]

Are you learning languages other than German

[polar galleon]

i'm one but i guess i don't exist to u

[vernal apex]

the mehrsprachig konig 💔

[paper grail]

dude get over it

it was a wierd vibe

[polar galleon]

or u apologize for calling me a smartass when it was ur fault u didn't see the link?

weird vibe indeed

[paper grail]

sorry then

[vernal apex]

are you

und ausserdem redet er von muttersprachlern

[paper grail]

wait did you just lie

[ember hill]

Frisian
Esperanto
Anglo Saxon
Toki pona
And some Vietnamese
I just keep bouncing back and forth but since German is the one I know the most
I'm trying to focus solely on that