and personally I trust the quality of microsoft programmers, people might laugh at me, but to each their own opinion i guess
#technical-chat
blissful sequoia
ruby island
windows took a dip when windows 8 launches and has never recovered from then on
blissful sequoia
vista was bad like windows 8
ruby island
they no longer do testing like they use to
blissful sequoia
i feel like empirically they test more than ever
ruby island
if you didnt know this back in windows 7 days the employees and devs of windows use to run the development versions on their own pc's to find and patch all the bugs but now all they do is run the development releases in vms and do preliminary checks
blissful sequoia
seems better to me
ruby island
its worse
blissful sequoia
a bit more procedural
ruby island
because its not the quality it use to be
a person will always be better at finding bugs then running a tone of automated vm tests
blissful sequoia
i disagree
take foxhole for example 
both is best, but without automated tests you just keep rolling back to the same bugs over and over
eventually people will miss those
ruby island
would you rather a bunch of automated tests when doing balancing and bug tests or players
blissful sequoia
if i had to pick one or the other, i would want automated tests
ideally id want both
automated tests turn debugging from an art into a science
ruby island
i would completely disagree
blissful sequoia
well the entire industry views automated tests as the answer
ruby island
having players test exactly what they would do
blissful sequoia
if bugs slip through, then your tests are bad and you make better tests
ruby island
if its not discovered in tests then most likely its a small bug
or something that will not be discovered for a while
blissful sequoia
those are generally the only bugs that make it out of production anymore, very very edge cases
ruby island
but lets say you write a test program that does specific actions then what about the actions that were missed and could be the most relevant in a live environment
you are relying on code to discover code that was written wrong
or missed
see that problem
take for example the update that was just released it seems to be going smoothly with all the issues that were discovered that are fixed in the release happening on the 12th
if there is no major issues now then it will only get better
blissful sequoia
yea its unit testing, its what manufacturing has been doing for decades
unit testing prevents regressions
ruby island
now think about foxhole through automated tests it would have went live with buts and lots of issues that would have been only discovered by human that would have to be fixed
unit testing is only to check the logic of your code to make sure that original logic is maintained that doesnt help if you are building from scratch and have to create the logic for the unit tests that could be wrong and not intended
blissful sequoia
yah just imagine how much better foxhole would be with unit tests
blissful sequoia
whaaat
ruby island
unit tests are a vital part of coding especially with a project like foxhole
blissful sequoia
do you know this for certain?
i imagine we wouldnt have seen a lot of the same bugs twice
ruby island
hell i have even seen unit tests in small projects
if they are coding properly then they have to use unit tests in some sort of capacity
its a common train among coders
blissful sequoia
lol
it is not common - most programmers do not write unit tests
my guess is even fewer do it in game development, because it can be hard
ruby island
you can still test logic
thats the point its not that hard to input stuff into functions and make sure that get an expected result
blissful sequoia
if you are saying unit testing is absolutely necessary, then why are you complaining microsoft does it with their entire OS?
ruby island
unit testing is not the issue
unit testing is intended for and based upon logic that is written
blissful sequoia
and id point out for as open source as linux is, theres no unit testing
one could easily argue the testing quality for linux is real crap
ruby island
so if the devs intend to write a piece of code and write a unit test for it and get the expected result then it may seem fine to the devs
blissful sequoia
the kernel get thoroughly tested by users, but the applications themselves do not
ruby island
but that code may still have a bug
unit testing is to make sure there is not any program breaking issues its not for the little bugs throughout the program
blissful sequoia
and linux quality is wrapped around the hero persona of 1 person dick
ruby island
linux is being worked on by millions every day
ruby island
like there is not one person that controls the project
there is thousands of people that have worked on 1 file
blissful sequoia
linus absolutely controls the project
ruby island
and if linus wanted to change the license on the linux source code then he would have to get consent from everyone that has code in the project
blissful sequoia
ok
that would be pretty impossible to change the license
he still controls what code is added to the kernel
ruby island
technically he "does" but if developers see the project leading in a bad direction they can just fork it
and split it into their own
and the code that is written is audited by lots of people
blissful sequoia
yah, so is windows code
ruby island
but windows code is only audited by people that work at windows rather then the entire world
blissful sequoia
i would argue the programmers that work for microsoft on windows are the best in the world
i might say the same about apple too
ruby island
well there have been a lot of slip through windows
i would honestly say that apple has the best developers out of any company on the planet
blissful sequoia
i dunno...
you cant really say apple has made a visual studio (xcode is shit) or microsoft office, or their own cloud, or developed any languages anyone respects (objective C is awful, cmon)
so they make a pretty solid OS, their UIs are wonderful, but theyre not particularly broad
microsoft has a search engine, a browser, games, graphics libraries, machine learning
just an insane number of major projects, apple doesnt really compete in that kind of broad scope
ruby island
when was the last time you heard of a software issue with apple
blissful sequoia
i think i might also say oracle has amazing programmers in the scope size of microsoft
ruby island
there os is solid for being its own thing
blissful sequoia
dude apple has constant software issues what do you mean
blissful sequoia
apple is good, but they have problems too like microsoft or oracle
ruby island
oracle created java
blissful sequoia
sort of
ruby island
mojang created their own engine
blissful sequoia
when i say i admire oracle im referring specifically to the former sun microsystems part
solaris and java, but also ZFS
ruby island
well yes of course the still have issues there is no perfect company but apple by far in my opinion has the best developers as if you lined up the major bugs with windows and apple you will find that windows would have lots more
i mean look at the first iphone demo that os was so unstable that it could have crashed on stage and killed the company but it held up
blissful sequoia
i mean, odd, cause microsoft had smart phones like a decade before them that worked fine
ruby island
there were plenty of issues with those smart phones
blissful sequoia
i think there is a mythos that apple stuff doesnt have bugs or get viruses but we know its not true
ruby island
look back into them
blissful sequoia
and they just have a few major products so they can really invest in making their experience streamline
ruby island
oh no that 100% not true everything can have a virus but apple is its own bread of kernel software and hardware
blissful sequoia
theyre good programmers, i just think their task is easier
ruby island
they have control of both of those so the issues are minimal
blissful sequoia
yah true
ruby island
they have built a kernel from the ground up like windows
blissful sequoia
not exactly
ruby island
its not any easier
blissful sequoia
they based their kernel on netbsd originally
of the 3 major OSes their kernel is the least original
which i dig, because bsd is great
ruby island
blissful sequoia
why do they say freebsd? i thought it was netbsd
ruby island
they pretty much used some parts of other stuff but mostly built their own kernel
blissful sequoia
i hear its been heavily modified but i dunno, seems like a lot of it was built for them
also the kernel is really the smallest part of the OS
its smart to use something well tested with a permissive license
but generally ive thought of apple as more concerned with harware and full package than software
theyre more than happy to buy somebody else's code and use it
or just use something free i guess
ruby island
but darwin and ios in general is quite modified from the open source code it was copied from
blissful sequoia
sure, its been many years since it diverged
ruby island
and sure you have a good base but to understand that kernel and modify it is not a easy task
like try to understand the linux kernel
The Linux kernel has around 27.8 million lines of code
thats not a easy feat
and even if darwin was build on even a quarter of that then thats still 6 mill
blissful sequoia
ive heard the code base for windows is like 500 million
ruby island
imagine having say a few thousand people read a kernel of 6 million and coordinate together to modify it do what they want
blissful sequoia
freebsd is pretty large tho too, supposedly over 30 million lines
ruby island
and also create hardware that connected to that kernel perfectly
thing is microsoft doesnt do hardware on the scale apple does
blissful sequoia
yah
ruby island
sure its one thing to create a kernel but imagine having to take the code base of a already existing kernel understand it and modify it then create hardware that talks to that kernel while keeping the bugs to a minimal
blissful sequoia
easier than writing one from scratch
ruby island
i would say it harder because you need to first understand the current code base
even if you say its easier they still have to create hardware that is flawless with the kernel
blissful sequoia
their hardware is not flawless
and if it was harder, they wouldnt have started with an existing kernel
ruby island
i am not saying their hardware isnt flawless but they need to create a kernel to support their own chips
they create their own chips and dont rely on any outside company
blissful sequoia
uhh for the last 2 decades intel was making their chips
they were just regular intel stuff you could buy retail
ruby island
but what i am saying is apple creates their own soc's
blissful sequoia
what is soc?
ruby island
system on a chip
blissful sequoia
and if you had a mac would you run os x on it or linux?
ruby island
idk where you see that at all
blissful sequoia
well the dotted line to GNU
i feel like the GNU line should run parallel with linux and the bsd variations
or gnu just shouldnt be on there at all
ruby island
blissful sequoia
lol
blissful sequoia
god its so weird to hear alex jones talk about bill joy like some villain
stallman on the other hand ... is a creep lol
vagrant seal
Unrelated to the update: I have been having problems with the hammer. I cant build, nor mine anything.
ruby island
set your key bindings to default
vagrant seal
Well
Put into consideration that while reparing, building or mining occasionally works but for a swing or two then doesnt for a swing or two
ruby island
thats normal
also you must be in build/repair mode to build and repair
you can change modes by pressing f
vagrant seal
So while pressing the left key for the hammer to strike for repairing and it doesnt spark when animation does the swing is normal?
ruby island
sometimes due to latency swings do not count and sometimes the number that is reported isnt changed
vagrant seal
Ahh ic okay thx fpr the info
ruby island
at least i think its latency could be wrong
could also be the difference in location between the last and current swing
or maybe a combination of both
vagrant seal
Maybe
ruby island
i have noticed if there is too large of a difference between the last hit and current hit when what you are hitting has moved then it doesnt count
vagrant seal
That is neat
green mantle
@vagrant seal when one or two sings hit and then one or two dont hit and so on that is probably just lag
if it happened on a full region it could be the server problem otherwise its most probably your connection
main sorrel
which is the beta to play live?
ruby island
@main sorrel set it to NONE
main sorrel
cool ty
terse flume
whos idea was to make a resistance phase witch only trenches
ruby island
steam maintenance will be soon so anyone wondering why they got kicked out check here first https://steamstat.us/
silver storm
is 4gbs of ram enough for foxhole?
ruby island
probably not
silver storm
ok thanks im getting my first pc and i dont know waht is good and what is not
ruby island
16GB is the way to go
silver storm
ok thanks you very much
inner basin
I concur
opal steppe
hello , why i can't turn on the V sync ?
ruby island
you cannot turn on vsync after update 35 in windowed and fulscreen windowed mode
i just open obs and it forced vsync
or you can just go full screen turn it on and turn it to windowed mode and do that every time you change regions
or just say it full screen the whole time
tiny geyser
it says failed to download profile
quaint bobcat
i have that issue as well
ruby island
restart steam
stray grove
next needle
i cant login as well
cerulean mist
can't login
ionic igloo
Me either ;D
cerulean mist
inner basin
We are getting reports of border travel and login failures. Please be patient as the developers work around the issue.
potent aspen
Game isnt recognizing custom keybinds, I set camera rotate to backslash (mouse button) but it wont rotate unless i now hold the new button and the default MMB at the same time
ruby island
@Jack27#8255 set your keybindings to default had the same issue
then you can change them
oh
potent aspen
Tried setting to default and reapplying them, im going to try verifying the game file integrity and then maybe dying in game too
Edit: none of that seemed to work
ruby island
@potent aspen can you delete this directory and start the game C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Local\Foxhole
potent aspen
@ruby island Didnt seem to work
dusty canyon
@ruby island I am suffering from the same problem.
I am logging in now to try my new hotkey
It is not working.
My preferred hotkey works if bound to other actions, such as vaulting or opening inventories. However, no hotkey, other than MMB works to rotate the camera.
@potent aspen It isn't a what you're looking for, but if you scroll all the way down in the keybinds menu, there is an alternative buttons to rotate camera without mouse control. Please check it out until we get someone on this
gritty fractal
hey im having an issue my screen is zoomed in pretty far because I have a 32:9 aspect ratio super ultrawide monitor any ideas how to fix this
winter jasper
Good evening , ive got a question and hoping im asking it in the right channel ( excuse me if i aint)
I've been having issues hearing other peoples mic's uninterupted , its all breaking up every 0.5 seconds or so ( guessing its a port issue)
Ive got this problem since 8-12 months or so. Any advice?
blissful sequoia
@gritty fractal youl need to choose another resolution probably in full screen mode
@winter jasper possibly re-install audio drivers
gritty fractal
yea i tried that
blissful sequoia
the only hack i know that works for sure is using voicemeeter
which is how we know its not a network problem
heard somebody say disabling their sound device and reenabling it fixed it, but im skeptical that would work and i cant get confirmation from anybody else on th at working
but id consider finding different drivers, like if its a realtek sound device, maybe download the drivrers directly from their site, not your motherboard manufacturer or microsoft, but directly from realtek, or if that doesnt work directly from your motherboard support site
little lily
I just entered the game, I can't get to the pre-game. The world map does not load. I can't join the squad
inner basin
@little lily that's a lot of issues in one message. Where exactly are you having trouble joining the game. Is it in the main menu? Is it when the game is trying to teleport you to the Home Region?
cerulean mist
@inner basin He can't travel from home region to the main map
inner basin
What error message is he getting?
inner basin
Just... the game doesn't do anything?
Oh the map doesn't load the respawn points?
Hmm
inner basin
@little lily Have you had a look at #technical-read-first⚠
cerulean mist
what actually?
he don't understand english
@inner basin what do we need to choose?
inner basin
inner basin
@cerulean mist Asking if I need help?
cerulean mist
SORRY
it's 3am
and nothing of these 16 things help
@inner basin
@inner basin Don't live my comrade alone
jagged cedar
Just picked up a 32:9 monitor. Though I don't ever recall being so zoomed in. Is this normal or will I have to use a different ap.
sage laurel
Why i can't rotate camera on keyboard buttons?
jade ravine
I can't rotate my camera via the Rotate Camera keybind
I've changed it to use many different keybinds and yet the camera doesn't rotate
glad mango
I downloaded the game for the first time, and upon clicking start it says error in downloading profile 1
terse flume
is anyone having trouble to return home
fickle perch
I downloaded the game for the first time, and upon clicking start it says error in downloading profile 1
@glad mango fully restart steam
gentle dove
Any help with VC errors? I received VC Error [2] 2-10007 and [6] 3-1001. VC worked fine for me before the update and I uninstalled and reinstalled Foxhole after the update.
Also revalidated files
inner basin
@blissful sequoia Seems this is an actual bug. I've forwarded this for the devs to look into. @sage laurel @jade ravine @potent aspen @dusty canyon
@glad mango Try restarting Steam if that happens. If that fails, please have a read through #technical-read-first⚠ .
blissful sequoia
the audio thing?
inner basin
@terse flume I'll check up with the devs on that.
blissful sequoia
camera keys?
inner basin
No, the keybind issue regarding "Rotate Camera".
blissful sequoia
oh ok
inner basin
It worked when I binded it to RMB, but when using keyboard binds it doesn't work UNLESS you hold that keyboard bind AND MMB at the same time
halcyon phoenix
Hi there, when I played foxhole for the first time yesterday people told me I had to fix my mic, I'd be cutting up and people couldn't understand me
My microphone works fine in other games, anything I can do to get it fixed for foxhole as well?
frank smelt
@community My game wont open at all. just bought it, tried reinstalling and verifying, tried passing it through firewall, then tried turning off my firewall. Then i looked up the solution and the only mention i can see is a fix for AMD GPUs but I have a RTX2070 Super so this shouldn't be the issue. The game tries to start by doing the "preparing to start" thing on steam, then half a second later it closes. As far as i can tell the game doesnt even show up in Task manager. Please @ me or DM me in your reply as I have notifications for discord disabled unless tagged
this is the error I get if i try to launch from the folder directory on War.exe
@hot oak @golden barn @terse flume @wheat latch @brazen shard
inner basin
excessive pings rip
If you looked at #technical-read-first⚠ there is this message https://discordapp.com/channels/203512636556574720/551236268004999168/551237409426374678
frank smelt
well the website said to use @community but that didn't activate
i looked at that link
its for AMD products right?
frank smelt
LOL yeah that link bring me to this
inner basin
Weird, are you not using official discord?
Anyway, try those steps out. i am heading off to bed 
frank smelt
I'm on the official yeah, idk what's going on, anyway I downloaded those C++ files and they wont install cause it says a version of it is already installed despite the fact I don't have C++ 2015 installed at all, i have other years but not the 2015, 2005, 08, 10, 12, 13, and 2017. That file directory doesn't exist also in my Foxhole folders (C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Foxhole_CommonRedist\vcredist\2015) I tried copying and pasting it and also trying to find it manually but its not in the directory. "_commonredist" doesn't exist.
steam says all files are valid... so idk whats up
ruby island
@frank smelt did you read pinned messages
Game Fails to Start With No Error/An Error About VCRUNTIME
@jagged cedar yes this is normal due to exploits that were possible with such an aspect ratio
valid lance
I can't rotate my camera via the Rotate Camera keybind
@jade ravine Same. Can't rotate with Z anymore. GOTTA use Middle mouse button.
P.Slick of them to do that for no fucking reason.
ruby island
the dev branch worked fine for resetting keys
whatever they did between dev branch and live screwed it up
if you had reset your keys in the dev branch you would be fine as i am using a different rotate key fine
@valid lance can you try closing your game and going to this directory C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Local\Foxhole\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor and opening up input.ini and changing it manually there
this is the exact line i have and it works ActionMappings=(ActionName="Rotate Camera",bShift=False,bCtrl=False,bAlt=False,bCmd=False,Key=ThumbMouseButton2)
just change the key to Z if you want z
valid lance
I shouldn't have to fuck with the Code to make it work Lmfaoooooooo
terse flume
it's just changing a single value, not fucking with any code
ruby island
well its just changing a file while this bug persists
if it works then it will be a workaround until the bug is fixed
bright turtle
At least changing a config file entry fixes this unlike the fps cap
tranquil folio
cant hear anyone speaking can only hear reload animation etc anyone know how to fix it? ive tried a few things nothing worked so far
glass hearth
tranquil folio
ive tried all that ive fiddled with the settings ive tried verifying the integrity of game files uninstalled etc
ruby island
@tranquil folio is english selected in your voice chat language found in the settings cog the right and just above the text chat
tranquil folio
yep
ruby island
can you try the steps described here https://discordapp.com/channels/203512636556574720/551236268004999168/551238198995451924
and make sure you have it set to system default for both input and output as well as in windows sound control panel have your preferred speakers set to default communication and default device
tranquil folio
Ye ill try it now thanks
tranquil folio
@ruby island after i done the verify game files it said this 2 files failed to validate and will be reaquired
tranquil folio
ok cool
eternal thunder
My road has missing textures every time I move around, I’ve uninstalled the game and it did not fix it. Someone please help lol
ruby island
that almost looks like a shaders problem
can you open up disk cleanup and select directx shader cache and hit ok
tranquil folio
@ruby island that didnt work still cant hear anyone
eternal thunder
@ruby island is this for me?
ruby island
hmmm have you opened sound control panel and made sure that there is one output set as default communication device and default device
yes
tranquil folio
yep ive tried everything at this point
ruby island
do you perhaps have bluetooth
because i know the game doesnt like bluetooth headsets
eternal thunder
@ruby island I still have this problem even after I deleted the direct x 😦
If there is anything else I can try let me know. But no developer has helped me with this so if I can’t get it to work I’ll just have to stop playing until they reply haha
ruby island
can you check if there is a update for your video driver by typing in your model number into samsungs site
can you find your laptop here is check if there is a updated video driver
terse flume
white lines on screen like on the corner of it
languid marten
I cant equip things... any idea why?
ruby island
@languid marten like as in equip anything from any of the slots or like a bayonet
ruby island
did you change those keys by chance
languid marten
Nope
minor spruce
How do you use a bayonet
ruby island
press f
languid marten
One min
minor spruce
Ok so do I just run at them or do I press something to charge at them like in bf1
ruby island
well assuming you have it on the end of your weapon just click without holding right click
languid marten
Still not working
ruby island
can you send your input.ini file from this directory C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Local\Foxhole\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor just to verify those keys are set
ruby island
can you press windows button + r and type that exact directory in
ruby island
uhhhh is that file empty for you
languid marten
reinstall?
ruby island
no delete the foxhole directory at C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Local\Foxhole
then start the game
languid marten
nothing changed
ruby island
hmmmm
replace your Input.ini with this one
note that rotate camera will be changed
languid marten
q e?
ruby island
no it changed it from MMB to a thumb mouse button
and if that doesnt work for you then its probably the game not getting the input for some reason
languid marten
still the same
ruby island
and you are hitting 1 2 and 3 right
languid marten
yep
ruby island
while its in the slots
ruby island
and your 1 2 and 3 key works right
ruby island
weird
if it was that type of problem wasd wouldnt work
at least in a non qwerty layout
languid marten
I will try to validate files
ruby island
what happens if you try to rebind the equip keys
languid marten
nope
ruby island
hmmm
languid marten
maybe it is having problems with keyboard set on different languages
ruby island
that likely
timber igloo
Have they added the ability to remove Foxholes structures and buildings or do we still have to use friendly grenades?
gentle sluice
voice chat does not work (
austere galleon
help everytime i type, nothing really happens and a weird box appears
i have restarted my game
ruby island
looks like some weird accessibility feature
and its focused on the chat rather then the box where you type
austere galleon
i clicked options and it highlighted report player
ruby island
does tab change where the box appears
austere galleon
you know what my computer is actually going haywire it is randomly selecting things in my start menue
ima restart PC
ruby island
well you turned on some accessibility features in windows then
go into settings and ease of access
timber igloo
Question, we had Foxholes and Bunker Rifle Garrisons emplaced, however when the enemy came near none of the fornications fired or returned fired on them. Do the Rifle Garrison need power, but even if so, any idea why the Foxholes didn't even attempt to shoot?
@blissful sequoia Also yeah well back then grenades were more efficient and more widely available, every mother and children and their family had 20 per
ruby island
the bunker rifle garrisons require active ai
or the garrison upgrade
i think its called
timber igloo
We had the Rifle Garrison "Thing" upgraded and enabled
ruby island
if it has a full flag then its active
if its only a small flag then its not in range
timber igloo
How would you go about "activating" the AI then?
ruby island
getting the upgrade
timber igloo
But it was.. Hmm
ruby island
can i see what you are talking about
timber igloo
Nope, it got overran by 50 enemies as none of the emplacement, Rifle Garrison, Foxholes, anything didnt shoot back
We we're upgrading to Machinegun Garrison but not enough time
ruby island
emplacements dont fire automatically they are manual
timber igloo
Had all 8 of the Garrison Infastructures
So, the game's changed now how the defences are done? Foxholes no longer have AI that fire back ?
ruby island
were they within 150 meters of a th or i think 75 meters of a bunker base
no it does
timber igloo
it was right next to the Bunker Base itself, and the same goes for the foxholes, but none of the foxholes fired
Which just adds to the confusion with the Rifle garrisons
timber igloo
How about this, if the Territory was captured, and changed to their colour, will that make all emplacement "stop firing" as you're now in foreign territory?
ruby island
foxholes will fire regardless of any territory
as long as its connected and the base has the upgrade
timber igloo
Hmm, doesn't make sense why none of our foxholes fired
timber igloo
Yeah the AI never fired
ruby island
well if you have video of it being a full flag and within range of an enemy i would send in a mod mail
timber igloo
Sadly no, and the base is now lost sadly and likely destroyed, maybe next time whenever I get the chance
ruby island
might be some sort of bug or issue with the new update
timber igloo
Maybe, well I'll see what I can see on my end, and we found out that yes you need active power from a generator to make the rifle garrisons be active AI, but sadly we had no way of making thay
ruby island
i dont think so
thats for the SC
rifle garrisons and foxholes will fire if the upgrade is unlocked and within range of it regardless
timber igloo
ruby island
thats old
timber igloo
"The Rifle garrison will make it an Active Defense when powered by a generator. "
Was about to say the Wiki could be outdated
ruby island
i have seen it not attached to the base by tranches and still fire
timber igloo
Hmm, doesn't explain how our 5 rifle garrisons never fired a single shot when the enemy was 2m from them and next/close to the Base, which just yeah, odd
could be what you said, bug with the update
ruby island
just look for the full flag next time that tells you if its active
and if it is and not firing at an enemy within range then report it
timber igloo
I remember seeing a flag, but 🤷♂️ lost 4-8 hours to the base and its lost
Gonna move on from the past and see what else I can do, and have a recording hotkey ready for bug reports
ruby island
thats active
timber igloo
Yeah I know the flag, saw it was there
ruby island
actually nvm you need both these
timber igloo
We did
ruby island
ones for the rifle garrison and the other for foxholes
timber igloo
We were on to upgrade the 2nd tier ones, Machinegun and the other thing
ruby island
huh
lucid vector
Hello I am new and I have a problem
Just purchased and installed, when I click play it says "Failed to download profile"
Came here per the support site
Verified and relaunched
No change
Updated steam launcher
No change
Started typing
@deleted-role
ruby island
if restarting steam doesnt work its probably an anti virus that you have
pallid tusk
Does the game need feature level 11?
sly mortar
@pallid tusk What GPU do you have
ruby island
yes
pallid tusk
Oh
pallid tusk
Well damn
lucid vector
Radeon RX480
pallid tusk
But im guessing this means I cant play yeah?
sly mortar
Which GPU is it at @pallid tusk
@lucid vector Do you have any antivirus which would be blocking the game?
pallid tusk
Intel(R) HD Graphics
sly mortar
Which CPU
pearl kayak
oh
lucid vector
Not unless it interacts with windows defender
pallid tusk
sly mortar
Windows defender could block it, yes @lucid vector
pearl kayak
but it works fine with mine
subtle idol
Is there an issue with voice comms, I can't hear local voice chat and I don't hear myself
ruby island
havent seen windows defender block it ever
sly mortar
@subtle idol Please make sure that you have your audio devices set properly
Also, you shouldn't hear yourself
subtle idol
Sorry, I meant the volume Icon doesn't appear
pallid tusk
So can my specs not run it?
sly mortar
Make sure your mic is set properly @subtle idol
@pallid tusk It will not be able to, no.
lucid vector
I removed all windows defender rules for it, no change
sly mortar
UE4 Version 4.23 changed the requirement from 10_1 to 11_1
pearl kayak
is this your first time playing sirloin
lucid vector
yea, literally just bought it
sly mortar
So any game which has updated to UE4 4.23 or above (currently at 4.25) will not be compatible on your PC @pallid tusk
pallid tusk
rip
sly mortar
@lucid vector Could you try restarting your wifi
subtle idol
How can I set up my my mic @sly mortar ?
lucid vector
Not at the moment, spouse is wfh
ruby island
no signes of that in the update notes for 4.23 but k https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Support/Builds/ReleaseNotes/4_23/index.html
sly mortar
Don't remember if it was 4.23 exactly, but I know it's been 4.19 and 4.25
It happened when they did the last UE4 update
lucid vector
Oh, im not on wifi
ruby island
4.20 is what the game was on before 4.24 and it supported 10_1 then
lucid vector
No, my spouse is working fromhome
pallid tusk
me being poor and knowing nothing about computers
sly mortar
@pallid tusk It pretty much just means your PC is old enough that it no longer supports the newest graphical features
On a hardware level, not software
After your spouse stops working could you restart your router @lucid vector
lucid vector
yea, but that wont be till 9, any other ideas I can try in the meantime?
sly mortar
Restart your PC fully
pallid tusk
Ik, I just know nothing about them to get a new one
sly mortar
@subtle idol Go to Settings > Voice then set "Input Device" to your correct microphone
@pallid tusk I can help with that if you'd like
pallid tusk
Nah its ok, I cant afford anything rn
sly mortar
Alright
subtle idol
Nothing @sly mortar I tried with the 3 options
sly mortar
Is your mic muted
sly mortar
Hmm, could you press the reconnect button on that screen
subtle idol
Already did it with the 3 options
sly mortar
Does it output anything into chat when you do
lucid vector
Well now that I've rebooted it's saying the game has a 20mb update
lucid vector
sounds about right
subtle idol
It says that it is connected to the local voice chat but it doesn't appear the icons
sly mortar
Hmm
Try restarting your PC
You'd be surprised how much of this stuff gets fixed by just restarting stuff
lucid vector
common thread
it downloaded as quickly as you would expect, but it's taking forever to install
ruby island
thats steam
sly mortar
It has to modify some of the larger packed files most likely
ruby island
not forhole
ruby island
because its unpacking and relies on your disk speed and cpu speed
pretty much just disk if your cpu is like 2017+
sly mortar
Verify files
raven knoll
where is that ?
sly mortar
Right click on Foxhole in your library, then go to Properties > Local Files > Verify Integrity of Game Files
ruby island
a restart of your pc has a higher chance of fixing that
raven knoll
+3 commends
subtle idol
I waited for download and nothing happened
I tried reconnecting and shit but nothing
still on not being able to talk through local voice chat
ruby island
have you tried the fix for vivox files
subtle idol
I'm veryfing the local files
ruby island
ruby island
i think just vivox is weird and picky on what is wants to work on
sly mortar
It's not vivox itself, it's mostly their implementation is pretty janky
subtle idol
I'm gonna leave it like it is and tomorrow I'll delete the files and re-install them
ruby island
hope they get that sorted before they release the game in full
sly mortar
Alright, sounds good.
raven knoll
-3 commends still got it
sly mortar
Did you install the latest update off steam
sly mortar
No clue
raven knoll
ill verify again
sly mortar
All I know is there's an update
ruby island
and if what he is saying is true they could have screwed up something
sly mortar
I'm able to load it just fine
raven knoll
ill redownload now
this is a whole rollercoaster
we live in a society
Any other ideas?
ever since that update it went numb
ruby island
can you make sure windows is up to date
raven knoll
Windows? I've played over 6 hours be4 that update, that update comes out and I get that message lmao
raven knoll
Idk
I went into beta's and downloaded devbranch
Verified about 6 times
restarted my pc twice
redownloaded 6 times
ill never complain about devbranch being late again
gentle dove
Any help with VC errors? I received VC Error [2] 2-10007 and [6] 3-1001. VC worked fine for me before the update and I uninstalled and reinstalled Foxhole after the update plus revalidated files.
round timber
grizzled folio
who banned him? @round timber
barren onyx
Just tried the update on Linux, an old debian stretch machine with nvidia drivers and Proton 4.11-13 and it works!
terse flume
Does anyone know how to fix the "Voice Chat Error [8] 6-0"?
serene tapir
Does anyone have an issue on Steam (Linux) where the game freezes after anywhere between 20-40min of playtime (wide time frame, not sure what triggers it, 1 CPU core goes to 100% and stays until I "kill -9 PID"?
timber matrix
imagine getting a ban for 4 years for putting a at gun on a hill
@round timber i mean, he did use exploits so....
inner basin
@terse flume @gentle dove
Try reading through these 3 messages
https://discordapp.com/channels/203512636556574720/551236268004999168/551238079457919027
https://discordapp.com/channels/203512636556574720/551236268004999168/551238198995451924
https://discordapp.com/channels/203512636556574720/551236268004999168/551238446379696130
leaden wigeon
@silver storm What cpu do you have?
terse flume
gigahertz ≠ performance
silver storm
I5
terse flume
which i5?
leaden wigeon
There's a lot of I5s, how many cores do you have?
ruby island
i mean as long as your gpu is strong enough the cpu isnt that big of a factor
if its integrated graphics tho with that cpu forget about it
hidden surge
my game wont close without me completely turning off my computer.
blissful sequoia
@terse flume if you havent added a video card, its probably not powerful enough
looks like a computer that can easily add a video card though
blissful sequoia
try restarting steam, grach
blissful sequoia
the problem might be your DNS server or your router/firewall then
golden widget
restart computer
wet rose
restart computer
@golden widget also tryed
golden widget
rip. contact support
wet rose
waiting the answer
blissful sequoia
if you get one, they will tell you the same thing
wet rose
i didnt get else i just sent it
dull mortar
I can't choose deploy point
there is no point on a map
can you tell me what to do? I tried to re-install the game and even reinstalled it
terse flume
@blissful sequoia AMD Radeon HD 7570 works?
blissful sequoia
No, I don't think so
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+7570 660 score - i would say you need like .... 1200-1500 score to play foxhole any acceptable level
you can replace your video card in your computer though. i woudl recommand a geforce 750 TI
very inexpensive used
terse flume
Mk
wet rose
you can replace your video card in your computer though. i woudl recommand a geforce 750 TI
@blissful sequoia i could play before with my GRX 550 TI
blissful sequoia
sounds legit, the score on that is about 1500 https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+550+Ti&id=16
wet rose
can you tell me what to do? I tried to re-install the game and even reinstalled it
@dull mortar i think you use wrong map. Use deploy map on coastline of your start location
blissful sequoia
it does not need to be a very expensive card, but that radeon hd 7570 is weak
there is a flag that shows a map like that with nowhere to deploy near the deploy spot
its confusing
wet rose
i dont know anything about radion
blissful sequoia
but also there is a bug related to network trouble or server congestion that can also look like that
wet rose
but it worked well with gtx 550 ti
blissful sequoia
its OK
wet rose
f@ck and what should i do
wet rose
how
wet rose
what do u mean-reset?
blissful sequoia
like unplug it for 5 seconds
wet rose
ok i need this video on my language
So
Is it a usual bag?
i mean how many people faced it
if you know
blissful sequoia
most people fix it by restarting steam
weak storm
I have a problem with my mouse thats keeps moving to my second screen, unless im holding down left click. Is there a way to keep my mouse fixed on the game, without turning my second monitor off?
blazing sky
i keep getting disconnected after about 10 seconds. The world map when I am in is only one grid. No idea whats going on.
it looks like im back at the training camp. but yeah, i cant seem to stay connected for more than 10 seconds.
I give up. i was able to play for over a half hour yesterday without any issues.
tranquil vessel
hello! Whenever I close the game, steam doesn't recognize it's closed and there're no processes in the task manager I can find to close; only way I've been able to do it is to restart steam. Google's been no help. Is there anything I'm missing? Lemme know. Thank you!
sly mortar
@tranquil vessel Question about your settings: Do you have "Enable Voice in Background" on?
radiant field
Anyone having issues with middle mouse button not letting you rotate the camera?
inner basin
@radiant field That should be fixed in the latest patch. See #updates
Oh er. Misread that. Try to reset your keybinds.
radiant field
weird. it works now after resetting to default. I had unassigned and reassigned it to what I had it before and it wasn't working
oh well. thanks, Blade
inner basin
Yep, it's some sort of issue with Unreal Engine 4 when a new keybind is added to the game.
Glad I could help
tranquil vessel
@sly mortar I checked my settings, no I do not; should that be turned on?
sly mortar
No, I was wondering if that was causing it
steel juniper
Good night. I have the error "0x80070017 - Data error (cyclic redundancy check)" when installing UE4 Prerequisites (64x). Attached log file.
<@&213133977681264640>
steel juniper
The game is installed and asks for Microsoft VC Redist when it starts. Right after request the installation of UE4, where the error occurs.
leaden wigeon
I'm not really sure how you're supposed to "rejoin immediately" when it takes forever to update the game then boot it up again
steel juniper
The game is installed and asks for Microsoft VC Redist when it starts. Right after request the installation of UE4, where the error occurs.
@steel juniper <@&213133977681264640>
sly mortar
Can you just ping me next time, not all of the CS?
@steel juniper Go here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2977003/the-latest-supported-visual-c-downloads
Download Visual Studio 2015, 2017 and 2019 x64 version
Then try again
steel juniper
Can you just ping me next time, not all of the CS?
@sly mortar ok, sorry
golden widget
It appears as though my rotate map button is not working. Anyone else run into this?
terse flume
@toxic trail try to move the game install to a different drive
toxic trail
terse flume
shouldn't take more than 5-10 minutes
also clearing winsock
open CMD as admin
type netsh winsock reset
anti viruses and file corruption can cause it too
sly mortar
@dull mortar Could you try restarting your internet? You seem to not be receiving information from their database.
dull mortar
I get this error, but my Internet is stable
sly mortar
Are you in a country which would block access to Amazon Web Services
dull mortar
no! i from Russia
sly mortar
Hmm, are you using a VPN?
dull mortar
I've never used it
unkempt drift
Constantly getting this error even though my internet connection is stable.
dull mortar
the same problem with the connection, for 2 days no one can help me...
frosty minnow
Can anyone help me please ?
Steam has queued an update for Foxhole, but when I click update it seems to start and stop at same time and still showing Update queued... and can´t run it...
I tried validating data, restarting Steam but still nothing...
All fixed somehow, IGNORE ME...
valid lance
Is there a Reason that everything past this Howie is an Invis wall in Tempest??????????
inner basin
@valid lance could be a bug, I could investigate. Coords?
@dull mortar Do you have antivirus which has a firewall? It could be blocking. Also, look at all the steps in this message: https://discordapp.com/channels/203512636556574720/551236268004999168/551239621598773249
quaint yacht
Hey guys, my game crashes every 20-40 minutes since the big update. I updated my graphics drivers and verified the game files. Is there anything else I can do to help? Running Windows 7 with Nvidia GTX 770. Specificly the game minimizes and windows says the graphics driver stopped responding
dull mortar
@inner basin I don't have an antivirus and I turned off the firewall! I tried all the methods on your link and it didn't help!
inner basin
😦 Damn
glossy quest
Hi everyone. Is there a way to become unstuck from this?
I alt tabbed and came back to this.
inner basin
@glossy quest Type !unstuck in the chat
@dull mortar Can you DM me your latest log file located in C:\Users\[your username]\AppData\Local\Foxhole\Saved\Logs
dull mortar
@inner basin I sent you a private message
inner basin
@raven knoll post that in #bug-reports yes
valid lance
@inner basin It's in Tempest along here.
marble shard
I have an issue playing with two monitor set up. I play with full screen but my mouse still keeps moving to monitor 2 when aiming in a certain direction. How can I make it that mouse dont move over to another monitor while in game?
it doesnt happen on other games unless they are borlerless
rapid obsidian
@marble shard sounds like you running in fullscreenn window mode rather than pure old school fullscreen ?
terse flume
I Have an where game only updates when alt/tabbed out of , idk whats wrong. stuck in borderless, only updates when alt/tab. e.g. press 'options', alt tab x2 and when i return to the game i am in the options menu
marble shard
@rapid obsidian No man, I'm running 'Fullscreen' not 'Windowed Fullscreen'
merry hound
foxhole does issues with my discord, after some time, suddently i can't hear anyone in the discord, i need to leave and renter the call to hear again
i think foxhole does issues with my sound card
merry hound
@terse flume its for everyone, my mic is also cutting, there is no solution to this really
candid bronze
I hear others "lagging" when they speak, like cutting. My mic doesnt work at all for some reason
If someone could help me with that problem. Would be great
arctic talon
only workaround that ik about, and that has worked in the past is this one https://discordapp.com/channels/203512636556574720/374272127953666048/592268066776416257
candid bronze
I know VoiceMeeter, I used it before. But I don't want to because it heats my laptop
Didnt work for me
unborn rose
Whenever I switch audio output my game freezes and stops responding 9/10 times.
marble shard
When will the lag be fixed?
novel hatch
So... Is there a way to fix this laggy microphone problem without downloading 3rd party software?
glass jackal
Shout louder! War is loud, repeat yourself clearly to make sure you’re heard over combat (:
If you’re not screaming for a medic at the top of your lungs and waking up with a sore throat the day after, you’re playing wrong
novel hatch
lol
uh, I mean like, everyone else is cutting in and out (k-nda l-ke t-is)
trust me, yelling is my specialty lol
glass jackal
Yeah I’m trolling. Honestly cant say I’ve ran into that, some people are quiet but they probably have their input volume turned down in their client side settings
I maxed mine out when I first joined and had someone shout back at me WOAH YOURE TOO LOUD
novel hatch
dang alright
I've heard its a widespread glitch so I know its not my internet
well idk I'll take a look at the forums and see what I can do :3
grim holly
Hey, for some reason i'm completely unable to rotate my camera with MMB
First time playing this update, never had this problem in previous ones
When I hold MMB it locks the mouse as though it would let me rotate the camera, but wiggling my mouse does nothing. All other controls are working and i'm able to rotate the camera with period and comma, just not with MMB
glass jackal
@grim holly heard resetting key bindings to default fixes that one
inner basin
@terse flume Sounds like a graphic card issue I think. Make sure your drivers are updated?
grim holly
Cheers, that worked 👍
glass jackal
Hap69 to help
daring jetty
This @#%@ stuck in ground, we can't even get back into water..
inner basin
@daring jetty type !unstuck in chat
frosty fossil
Hi there, I'm playing with steam and my voice chat is fine on discord, however I can't hear other's voice chat in-game. I tried playing around with the voice settings but seems none of them worked, anyone know if how should I fix this? Thanks!
blissful sequoia
voicemeeter shouldnt add much heat, its probably an extra 5% CPU use
hallow mica
hello, kinda similar issue to the guy above me, however my issue is that my voicechat comes out laggy/garbled to other people, but voice stuff works fine on apps like discord
balmy gorge
Intel HD graphics?
sturdy crow
yes
balmy gorge
Probably not my dude
sturdy crow
Intel(R) HD Graphics with 64MB dedicated video memory
balmy gorge
You pretty much need a dedicated GPU if you want to play Foxhole
inner basin
My laptop runs Foxhole on the absolute lowest settings and it has Intel HD graphics @sturdy crow
sturdy crow
what sort of troubles do you encounter when you run in at Intel HD @inner basin
as for ram I only got the bare minumum of 4GB and my cpu is Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU N2840 @ 2.16GHz
inner basin
@sturdy crow have you bought the game yet? If not, remember that you can refund it if you only play under 2 hours
I have to turn down the resolution scale all the way down on my HD graphics
I get 60 FPS what way
*that way
sturdy crow
no but a friend of mine was going to give me as a gift
tall pond
Hey, I'm new to the game. But I've encountered an issue where the in game voice chat of other players is choppy and garbled to the point where its impossible to understand most of the time.
I was wondering if anyone know of a way to solve the issue?
I've already tried the steps suggested in pinned topic in the steam discussion board, technical section, regarding vidux.
Any help that anyone can provide would be mightily appreciated.
sick pollen
has anyone had issues trasferring vehicle crates between stockpiles? My crate just got lost doing that.
inner basin
@tall pond Check the relevant messages in #technical-read-first⚠
hearty timber
@soft badger Is your friend on Linux? Playing with older versions of Proton can cause that
vestal ether
edgy dune
@sturdy crow Before getting a gpu I was on a i7 4770 with Intel HD 4600 graphics and I had issues with the game and constant crashes after recent updates ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Unreal engine 4 doesn't really support integrated graphics very much supposedly and so it's hit or miss if it'll run well, you'd have to play on low res and low graphics if it can run most likely
terse flume
hello, kinda similar issue to the guy above me, however my issue is that my voicechat comes out laggy/garbled to other people, but voice stuff works fine on apps like discord
@hallow mica go to your voice settings, and change it to the device you want it use in foxhole
sturdy crow
Thanks for the advice . I just found out ihave directx 12.
terse flume
Hey, I'm new to the game. But I've encountered an issue where the in game voice chat of other players is choppy and garbled to the point where its impossible to understand most of the time.
I was wondering if anyone know of a way to solve the issue?
I've already tried the steps suggested in pinned topic in the steam discussion board, technical section, regarding vidux.Any help that anyone can provide would be mightily appreciated.
@tall pond go to your voice settings, and change it to the device you want it to use in foxhole
sturdy crow
I can ru most old 3d games like fallout new vegas or the witcjer just fine even swtor. Though swtpr tends to freeze up but it doesn't crash
terse flume
Hi there, I'm playing with steam and my voice chat is fine on discord, however I can't hear other's voice chat in-game. I tried playing around with the voice settings but seems none of them worked, anyone know if how should I fix this? Thanks!
@frosty fossil try changing your device to what you’re using,or currently trying to use in voice comms
echo shard
I have tried quite literally everything from opening my port, to deactivating my firewall and everything the suggested list. I am still unable to connect and join. The error is " Warservice connection failed" Here is what my game looks like
sturdy crow
So laptop can run foxhole at low settings though a bit glitchy sometimes at least it didn't crash
terse flume
Tip for anyone with newer laptops that have higher-end processors: Make sure your laptop has Thunderbolt 3. If it does, you could invest in an external GPU and a basic 1080p monitor, which would cost less than buying a whole gaming desktop.
terse flume
@inner basin graphic card is updated , before the update the game worked ,.
ruby island
@echo shard disabling your firewall is a bad idea and i have never seen it work so you should turn that back on and have you tried changing your dns servers
timber matrix
So laptop can run foxhole at low settings though a bit glitchy sometimes at least it didn't crash
@sturdy crow ye i can run foxhole low graphics and resolution on a laptop. Just make sure to adjust the resolution scale
dapper junco
Hi, i've encountered a problem recently. My voice chat stopped working without any errors, i don't hear anyone, nobody can hear me and the voicechat icon doesn't appear when i'm pressin T. Any solution to this?
Ok, forget about it, it just fixed itself somehow
fathom hamlet
when will they remove the fukin fps lock finally? until that the game is UN-PLAY-AB-LE
burnt nova
im unable to turn foxholes and everything else when building. also i cant change fire mods
inner basin
@burnt nova Reset keybinds in game settings
burnt nova
i tried that for the fire mod it did nothing
inner basin
How about rebinding to another key?
burnt nova
ok got to work thanks
analog sphinx
Facing constant FPS drops after the new update.
terse flume
hello fellow war criminals, what did john foxhole mean by this?
blissful sequoia
restart steam
neat canyon
Anyone else running into the Squad Voice chat bug? I just had it leave my mic open even after I left the squad.
signed - dude who just ASMR'd his whole squad.
echo shard
@ruby island yes
harsh crater
EU-4 Wargame has crashed and will now close this is the error help me pls
ruby island
can you screen shot the display tab of dxdiag
you can open up dxdiag by typing it into windows search and clicking the first result
harsh crater
ruby island
the next tab to the right at the top
harsh crater
ruby island
your drivers are out of date by 2 years can you update them via this download https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/results/162105/
true sundial
I am having trouble with the in-game voice chat. I cannot hear people speaking nor can they hear me. I am using a Corsair HS50 pro stereo. My previous headset, the Astro A20, could send and receive in-game VOIP without issue. I can share screenshots of my in-game settings if it would help.
The Corsair HS50 pro stereo works well with in-game voice chats from other games.
ruby island
can you go to the directory C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Local\Foxhole\Saved\Logs and send war.log @true sundial
harsh crater
true sundial
@ruby island
ruby island
LogAudioCaptureCore: Display: No Audio Capture implementations found. Audio input will be silent. vivox doesnt like your headset and is not recognizing it as a proper input
true sundial
what can be done about it?
ruby island
is it connected directly to a headphone jack port on your pc or through a usb DAC
true sundial
The mic and headphone ports on the front. In the sound settings and discord the output must be set to "speakers" and the input to "microphone" to use it.
ruby island
you can try reinstalling your audio drivers directly from your motherboard manufactures site
true sundial
ruby island
no guarantees tho
true sundial
I will do so, hopefully it works. Thanks for the assistance.
gentle dove
@ruby island can I also ask you a question regarding VOIP?
ruby island
sure
gentle dove
Are you familiar with the VC error codes?
ruby island
a couple
@harsh crater ok it seems like that version is incompatible with your gpu despite nvidias brilliant site saying it is compatible
does it show that error upon any UE4 game
gentle dove
@ruby island I've also been having issues with voice chat. I've received VC errors [8]-6-0, [2] 2-10007, and [6] 3-1001. Anything I can do to fix them? I can PM you that War log if it would help.
ruby island
8-6 means no connection and one of the other 2 pretty sure means no input devices
the log will tell if it doesnt have in input device
gentle dove
Just sent to you.
true sundial
@ruby island In-game audio works now, thanks for the assistance!
ruby island
Noice
tall pond
@inner basin I already tried those measures before I posted here. (they are the same as those listed in the steam forums)
And the issue remains.
And for the record Foxhole is the only game with voice coms where i have encountered this issue.
Just about any other voice com program, discord, team speak, etc. works fine.
ruby island
@tall pond the only concrete solution to that is voice meter i am pretty sure but there is reports of disabling the sound device and re enabling it working
terse flume
Sup.
vital pebble
Okay so read through #technical-read-first⚠
If that doesnt help, @blissful sequoia is your best bet
blissful sequoia
do us a favor tho, can you tell us what your sound card is (specific model), the driver version
terse flume
Alright cool.
blissful sequoia
lots of people have this problem. the only fix i know is voicemeeter. somebody once said disabling the device in device manager and re-enabling it fixed it, but i dont believe it
it'd be nice to track down the problem though. devs have largely been no help with this to my knowledge
ruby island
a reinstall of drivers from your motherboard could help if your head set is plugged directly into a headphone jack
blissful sequoia
or possibly the drivers directly from realtek
if you already are using the motherboard ones, probably not huh
but speaking from memory, thecuz, i think we've tried that already like a year ago
ruby island
it can be hard to find the exact model on realteks site
realteks site isnt very intuitive
blissful sequoia
my recollection is we got somebody to try their motherboard drivers and also the realtek ones, but it would be worth confirming
ruby island
generally motherboard manufactures keep the drivers up to date but are not usually automatically updated unless its from a system builder that has their own software that updates drivers
blissful sequoia
i have little faith in motherboard manufacturers, but if they have some weird quirk in their implementation of the sound card then maybe only their drivers will work properly
but when i hear it has stutter, it makes me think the audio buffer is being filled with 0s, or it's the wrong sample rate, like it's sampling 44100 data at 48k and its adding 7k of crap, resulting in a stutter sound
my understand is the bug is both ways, sending and receiving audio both have stutter
ruby island
but the game detects the sampling rate at startup and would adjust for it presumably
blissful sequoia
the game audio works fine, it's the vivox audio only
and I think we've had people set their audio output to 44100hz but i can't remember; that might be a good test also
ruby island
maybe the sampling rate needs to be changed in the driver settings to 44100 as thats the standard for all audio
blissful sequoia
im not sure there is a standard really
that seems to be broadly supported by microphones tho, and many microphones wont do 48k+
it's a tough bug because i dont think anyone very computer savvy and technical is getting it, so its hard to get someone to debug it
ruby island
Most PC sound cards contain a digital-to-analog converter capable of operating native at either 44.1 kHz or 48 kHz. Some older processors include only 44.1 kHz output, and some cheaper newer processors only include 48 kHz output, requiring the PC to perform digital sample rate conversion to output other sample rates. Similarly, cards have limitations on the sample rates they support for recording.
blissful sequoia
you say "get a different driver" and they nod ok but then they dont do it
oooh interesting, i didnt know some only did 48k
ruby island
i guess 44.1 kHz was the standard
blissful sequoia
im not sure because cheap equipment doesn't support different sample rates means its a standard
ya know some telephone equipment is 8000 hz
ruby island
well cds were built around 44.1 kHz
and that became the norm inside most audio equipment
blissful sequoia
makes sense
i think when its the only sample rate its because the equipment is cheap tho
all studio equipment can do 96k
ruby island
but why would they pick 48K
blissful sequoia
44100 is really an awful rate. it makes me mad
ruby island
and only build it around 48K
blissful sequoia
easier math
ruby island
but it needs to support the sound equipment they plan to drive
blissful sequoia
i uhh ... i dont know really
my guess is because it lines up better with 30 fps video
ruby island
`44,100 is the product of the squares of the first four prime numbers ({\displaystyle 2^{2}\cdot 3^{2}\cdot 5^{2}\cdot 7^{2}}{\displaystyle 2^{2}\cdot 3^{2}\cdot 5^{2}\cdot 7^{2}}) and hence has many useful integer factors. In what appears to be a coincidence, the 44.1 kHz sampling rate is also exactly 4 times the line frequency of the old 441 lines German TV standard, which had a frequency of 441 × 50 ÷ 2 = 11,025 Hz (441 lines per frame, 50 fields per second, 2 fields per frame).
Various multiples of 44.1 kHz are used – the lower rates 11.025 kHz and 22.05 kHz are found in WAV files, and are suitable for low-bandwidth applications, while the higher rates of 88.2 kHz and 176.4 kHz are used in mastering and in DVD-Audio – the higher rates are useful both for the usual reason of providing additional resolution (hence less sensitive to distortions introduced by editing), and also making the low-pass filtering easier, since a much larger transition band (between human-audible at 20 kHz and the sampling rate) is possible. The 88.2 kHz and 176.4 kHz rates are primarily used when the ultimate target is a CD.`
blissful sequoia
Yeah resampling between very similar non divisible sample rates takes more memory
Depending on the algorithm...
frosty fossil
@terse flume Thanks for reply. I tried changing pretty much all devices but none of them worked. I did a search and saw somebody said it could related to steam voice chat, but it was years ago. Could you tell me if it's still the case?
terse flume
@blissful sequoia I am proud to say I can run the game at all low quality and one quarter resolution at a solid 60*
Fps
blissful sequoia
ooof
blissful sequoia
glad it worked out
blissful sequoia
you could probably just get away with adding a cheap video card
echo shard
So, when I go to deploy I am unable to select any locations. I see an error warservice connection failed.
things I have tried.
The entire techincal read first list
changing DNS
reinstalling
using a vpn
I have played fine for years before this
i can see other players in the home island
terse flume
I'm so tired of all this. I couldn't play a single time without my game lagging or these issues happening.
echo shard
the deployment spot is not the issue
there are no places for me to click to be able to spawn
the hexagons that show server info like pop are not there
slate pine
Hey is anyone avalable right now to help me with a squad display screen fix?
https://gyazo.com/34333f150e1df55e4ad823716e277df4 This is what I saw when I had joined my clans private locked squad
Even though I was inside the squad and could see my other squad mates chatting I couldent see I was in a squad and I could type TO THEM but I couldent see my own messages in the squad chat
analog sphinx
Facing constant FPS drops after the new update.
@analog sphinx
Any solution to this? Cant play the game because of this. CPU is at 100% while playing the game.
inner basin
@slate pine Have the squad leader kick you out then rejoin
slate pine
Rejoin game or rejoin squad?
inner basin
@terse flume Have you taken a look at our network related pins in #technical-read-first⚠ ?
@slate pine rejoin squad
slate pine
Much appreciated ty
ruby island
@analog sphinx try verifying or reinstalling and restarting your pc if that doesnt help and you are getting cpu bottlenecked and you have the gpu power its best to turn everything up to max as this will reduce some load off of the cpu and on to the gpu
zenith osprey
Hey guys