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if anything it will be to do with steam
I don't have any other games that do this man. Like, if I even close my occulus hub it'll crash foxhole
Steam thinks Foxhole is a VR game for some reason sometimes
Is there a way to fix it?
I think @gusty jasper has some experience with Foxhole VR shenanigans
Check if the 'SteamVR' application is installed on steam under Library>VR. if so, there is a setting in SteamVR. Uncheck the box: "Start SteamVR when an application starts".
its not installed under VR, I don't even have a folder for that in this drive
and its not even running steam VR, its running Oculus lol
Alright, for anyone who might have the same issue with Oculus and Foxhole, the easiest solution without unplugging it is to go into your services and manually stop the OVRservice. Not sure if it turns itself back on without manual intervention or restart but you can just re-enable it again. Cheers
avg out of all things
AVG and bitdefender
Only because Bitdefender wasn't working
why do you have bit defender and avg
It wouldn't install correctly
AVG is honestly worse than bitdefender
so lord help me I had to install AVG
there is honestly no need for a external anti virus
yes trust me i know, I have no idea how many BSOD it has caused me on old installs
there is honestly no need for a external anti virus
@ruby island I want one
who uses norton?
windows defender is the lightest anti virus out there
Windows defender is good
and does a decent job
yeah it does the job, but i don't like it
I actually use norton sometimes
@sly mortar ...
Set it and forget it
norton is the worst lol
It's not light weight at all
But it covers so much that I don't need to worry much
If I'm doing dumb things I'll be doing it in a VM anyway so ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
norton actually has pretty bad signatures
That's what i haven't installed!!!
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thank you Icanari, I need to get my VM sorted
If you're running dedicated malware of that level at it you're kind of fucked already
and my entire PC runs on m.2s so speed isn't really a concern
never mind norton has great detection with horrible removal and extremely high resource usage
whats the gpu they use
@ruby island me is Geforce GTX 220
@south spire https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/results/112596/ download and clean install this version of the driver
@sly mortar my friend said his GPU is ATI Radeon HD 4250-
@ruby island i already download that and still doesn't works
Okay here's the page for the latest drivers for that card @austere zinc https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/amd-radeon-hd/ati-radeon-hd-4000-series/ati-radeon-hd-4250
That should have the right DirectX compat
That card is only physically capable of hitting DX10.1, so this may not work
i have Geforce GTX 220 @sly mortar
@south spire That stuff was to Wolfhunter, what's the errors your getting?
could you run the dxdiag command, go to the Display Tab, then go to the Drivers area and tell me what the Feature Levels area shows?
thing is that card has feature level 10_0 with directx level 11.1 so that card has the capability to run the game
Yeah I just want to make sure
Did the devs just update from DX10 to DX11 or something
They were on DX11 previously right
na this was a engine update
Yeah was just making sure
there we already on directx 11
i bet you either its a reporting issue with the engine or we are not seeing some compatibility issue behind the scenes
My guess is they updated to UE4.25
Here @sly mortar feature level 10_1,10_0,9_3,9_2,9_1
you need feature level 11 now
well that's interesting
feature level 10_1,10_0,9_3,9_2,9_1 this happen when devbranch
Okay you're fucked @south spire
So not the Microsoft
@austere zinc Sorry about this -- new information just came up, the card needs 11_0 feature level compatability, which the card your friend is using is not capable of achieving in any way.
Well rip me @sly mortar
@south spire TL:DR On all the technical stuff is that your card can no longer run the game.
Though
Hey @ruby island, which file is that that's giving the min allowable feature level? Is that a settings file or an output file
look in the war.log under the logs folder in appdata
what
if it had been a config edit it to allow lower feature levels but then I realized how dumb that was
ya they wouldnt let you customize the feature level
well looks like i will stuck at capt rank
btw @sly mortar how many people that have same issue like me ?
2, 3 so far?
i guess we will have lots of people with old gpus come in this chat over time
ping me if theres a good news
ahhh they updated from 4.20 to 4.24
did you check the change log for 4.21,22 and 23
no
well those are added on
the site took too long to load so I got bored and left
as well as 24
so basically the devs screwed players with not so great graphic cards overnight without letting us know
really not happy about this guys
i dont think it was the devs that did this
most likely the engine update
and well the gpus that it effects are very old
๐ฆ so all i see is I will lose an active clan member
i checked integrity files, and uninstalled and installed again the game. Still this message pops up on launch. Any idea?
@tall pendant did you install the sound mod from skaj?
uuh ya
if yes, you need to instal a newer version
ah there is goes thanks!
Hello
we created a squad, locked truck, and accidentaly leave the squad, so we loose 3 full trucks
do you have an idea ?
You have to wait an hour/30 minutes for them to unsquad claim
WHy the fuck foxhole is using 99.9 % of my processor ????
My game just froze while at home island when moving my mouse around about to deploy somewhere, I can still hear squad but everything on screen is frozen ;-;
Oh and now my game crashed after about two minutes
I go to the files thing to try and find my crash dump thingy but there's none From today's date
Nvm found it
How foxhole can use that much ???I don't think the problem come form my graphic card because i can play GTA5 by only using about 60% ...
This update has broke my game. My drivers are updated, changing settings wont fix it. Rip me
some more broken stuff
FIX GAME! 2 friends cant play that have been playing for ages and this update caused them issues that apparently cannot be fixed... Please roll back to DX10 this is really not good ๐ฆ or somehow give the option to play on dx10
someone paid for this game and played it for a long time now unable to play unless they buy new graphics card and it wasn't even said in the update or devlog that you going to need to upgrade hardware to be able to play
this game has been on dx11 for a while i think
i literally cant even spawn in a map
im on the loading screen that shows before you spawn in for ages, but i can hear all the fighting and such going on around me.
just an FYI the developers dont really look here, you need to file bug reports in #bug-reports if you ever hope to get their attention on a problem
this game has been on dx11 for a while i think
@blissful sequoia then why cant my friend play while he gets this error DX11 feature level 10 is required
i know they send you here with the discord link, but there is little actual tech support
i dont know wolf. i just think its been on directx 11 for over a year
must be some new feature they werent using before
must be some new feature they werent using before
@blissful sequoia then who can we ask for help? I am really losing hope with this ๐ฆ
file a bug report, potentially you can contact Max, he's the contact point for developers
really recommended you file a bug report, theyre going to ask you to do it anyway
its a huge pain in the ass, but i dont know another way to get help
when i had trouble with an engine update they did manage to fix it in 24 hours, and youre not the only one experiencing it
as he had his game running before the patch i dont see how that can be an issue then.. anyway he has his dxdiag here also
right side 2nd from bottom is the levels of features
@austere zinc He cannot play because UE4 (The engine the devs use) upped the required DirectX Feature Levels for the latest updates to 11_0, which his graphics card is completely incapable of running due to it being over 11 years old.
@blissful sequoia They just updated to UE4.24 from UE4.20 and one of the intervening versions upped the required DirectX Feature Level to 11_0, which many cards 5+ years old aren't capable of running,
i find it surprising a 4.20->4.24 would introduce a breaking change like that, guess its not semver
I think it was 4.22 which upped the feature level
when i have the wrong drivers on linux it would demand dx 11 support, this is why i believed it to be already using dx11 a while ago
Foxhole has always been DX11
Okay so
i mean i just figured theyre using some new shader that requires some feature not being used before
and its just lumped together as "dx11" features
right
What it seems is that before UE4.22 the engine still allowed for people with the feature level 10_1 (DX10.1) to run the DX11 shaders and such, possibly not as well though
However that update seems to have changed that minimum requirement to be 11_0, which is DX11
theres a disconnect between the directx version and shader support
The DX Feature Levels your card supports is the important thing
this stuff was always more obvious in opengl, like boom you lack this extension
It only really affects windows when your card was made for the last operating system version
I have a true problem with the using of my GPU on foxhole.
My GPU is literally DYING with this game (GTX960 i think).
Power consumption is at 100%
Fan are at 60%
Temp is at 55%
HOW ? Is it normal ? Game lie, GTA or TheWitcher can't even do this to my GPU xD
like the dx 9 vs 10 thing? that was a big jump
i know you feel mate @austere zinc i cant play the game too because this directx 11 thingy
@hallow pecan uhm, reinstall and verify
I will try
but the wierd things is i can play arma 3 ,GTA 5 and squad XD
i mean if thats the deal, it sounds like theyre just flushing players
i cant imagine them just rolling back the engine and staying there
So we are ok to say that this GPU usage is abnormal ?
nuke your settings directory for foxhole, it might help
you might be pegged to some high frame rate or something
@hallow pecan So it should stop having bad frames a little while after you get in
But other than that there doesn't seem to be a solution
It's maxing my 1070 even after a hard reinstall
Bad optimization also ?
๐ค odd i had no differences
It's even more weird because about 1 week ago i had no such problem ?
Yeah because before my gpu's fans were not making 120 Decibels of noises
Graphic set on low
Something changed this patch that is using too much GPU
Separate from the Feature Level change
you deleted settings directory too, icanari?
In fact my main issue i have is the amount of NOISE a GPU can make when used at 100%
@hallow pecan Take that up with GPU manufacturors for using shitty fans
@blissful sequoia ye
Yeah but i never had this amount of noise while playing foxhole
Well it's using more of your GPU
So creating more heat
So the shitty fans have to work harder
ofc
have you tried with vsync on?
switch to fullscreen
not windowed fullscreen
actual fullscreen
i suggest trying the vsync because it'll pin you to like 60 fps likely
you might be running higher, like unconstrained - which will use 100% gpu
OH SHIT i manged to activate vsync
vsync only works while fullscreen I believe
and i have -30% of GPU usage xd
oooh
ok so thats the deal - they removed the FPS lock
Getting 90ish FPS without Vsync 100% usage
well maybe its not the problem then
85-90% usage with Vsync 60fps
Dropping to 70%
Okay that seems to be part of the issue
it cant be all of it
its just lowering fps by 30%, so you get 30% less gpu use, expected
yeah
Mb my GPU is now at 92% on Max settings
but the noise of my GPU is much more acceptable (for foxhole)
Ahh
@sly mortar dude ! Thats hella cheap
Yeah it's about the cost of the cheapest one you showed me and about 30% better
Recommend saving this one: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QC9KQq
you can get your windows for $12 usd
Only change is to add a 1TB HDD to it
dont blow 100 on it oof, i like the rest tho.
Gonna give it one more glance
@blissful sequoia Yeah I just choose that as the price so that I overbudget
sure wonder how easy is to get those parts tho in romania
^ That could be an issue
good stuff in that. i might get a cooler case tho
oh shit forgot case fans, one sec
but yah thats quality parts, sico, not just scrap put together by computer sites
It shouldnt be that hard
case fans?? what. why.
Need at least 2
psh.
Im thinking to speak with a company here to buy me the stuff and build them
Sorry I don't like cooking on my GPU backplate
case fans so overrated
gold rated power supply, nice nvme chip, that kind of stuff is ... good quality of life
Might be only here in Romania
Actually nevermind the case comes with fans @blissful sequoia
theyre gonna be loud
@terse flume There's some stuff like that over here
i might swap out the cooler master fan with noctua fans (still get the evo heat sink tho), and at most 140mm case fan
The only concern will be installing all the stuff :(
They're Fractal Design fans @blissful sequoia
@terse flume Putting together PCs is really pretty easy, and there's tons of tutorials on line
its easy when it works, lol
The default fans max at 19.4dBA
I mean, installing all the games and such
you have the advantage of a bunch of people here to ask for help
Mhm
not bad noise level
PC
i couldnt tolerate it, but other people could easily
Alright, I'm guessing you're using a Hard drive in it?
If you want to you can just move that hard drive over to your new PC
And then use a program which will transfer everything on that hard drive to the SSD
...
just clean install
That's how to bypass that pain, but I recommend a clean install
yah ive done my fair share of drive copies, windows 10 makes it much easier to do, but then youre on a magnetic drive running your OS
All my meme folders..
No you just copy it over to the SSD @blissful sequoia
nah, start it clean, and turn on bitlocker
But yes that is my suggestion ^
i imagine his hard drive is bigger than 500gb
would have to shrink it first, but yah its do-able
it's nice
@blissful sequoia Btw that case is one of the top rated currently on the market
I did play once at my cousin's PC and it felt like seeing in the future
Okay so to compare this to the PCs you showed me (Not the one 3 times this price the other 2)
- It has a better CPU
- It has a better GPU
- It's cheaper
is that desirable?
I'll gift you a hoodie when I buy all this
jeez wifi on a pc, wuuut. im rollin on 10gbps
@blissful sequoia I honestly prefer Mobo integrated wifi over expansion cards
I prefer Ethernet, but if I need wifi the mobo integrated has worked better for me in the past
i suppose... ive had so many built-in NICs die over the years, but i guess this way you at least have space to add an expansion wh en that happens
gonna have to wire an antenna tho
Nope
Im confused
On the back of the case there are 2 screw on points for wifi antenna
@terse flume Do you use wifi or ethernet?
@blissful sequoia
Ethernet
Okay then you can pretty much ignore all of this
oh thats nice
I can use the wifi if needed
Though I got two TVs and 2 phones connected to it
Ethernet is pretty much always better
you get a better price buying your own parts - but more important you get better parts
theyre not going to give you a quality drive or a good power supply with a pre-built machine
Or even a good Mobo
people only look at the ram number and the CPU type and maybe the video card
Or RAM
Will I have to install the windows though
yes
yah but thats so easy
but that's pretty damn easy and I can walk you through the entire thing
It takes a bit, right ?
i mean you can copy your drive instead
Like an hour maybe @terse flume
windwos install takes like ... 10-15 minutes?
At max
on that nvme its probably 5-10 minutes
^
then another 5 minutes to activate it
System builders like to make it seem like windows is VERY hard to install so that people keep coming to them
Thing is, I'll be to excited about it and I might lose my temper installing it
probably 10 minutes making the USB installer
I might do the USB thingy
@terse flume The install process you literally click like 5 buttons
And then it just does everything
well you shoulud have patience when you build your own machine
I wasted 17 years on swimming, Derp. I have no patience left in me. Also, the drivers
I gotta update everything right away, right ?
Drivers will auto install
Windows is very good at that now
Also updated version of the build with better thermal paste: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DNFPdm
So how do I use that thermal paste
most poeple use a dot of thermal paste
You uncap the tube and apply a small amount to the CPU before you put the cooler on
I'll take care of this PC more than I take care of myself
doesnt sound healthy
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one thing to make sure before starting is to GROUND yourself
i cant tell you how many components i have killed
just a little install of a hard drivee BAM motherboard and power supply gonw
i was not happy
Thanks Icanari
no it was just static charge
Gonna go tomorrow and show the dudes at PCgarage all this stuff
all i heard was a spark and i didnt thing nothing of it then when i turned the pc on sounded like a nuke then never saw the light again
i never ground myself. i have never fried a single component
and ive built hundreds of pcs and servers
I'll always touch like a door handle before starting but never hve had an issue
if you really care you just plug in the power supply and install that component first, it grounds the whole case, then you touch the case
^
by all means ground yourself if youre working with $50,000 cards
some people seem to
i mean everytime i ground myself for the fun of it there is usually a large shock
jeez
lol i am just a walking static energy machine
want your pc components dead today then give me your address and they will be dead in no time
Update 36
Hey guys, if you're running into an error on start up that shows DX11 feature level 10.0 is required to run the engine, please make sure Windows and your Graphics Drivers are up to date, restart your computer, and then try running the game again.
If issues continue to persist, please send me a message along with your DxDiag and I'll assist you.
but within the logs the game reports a minimum feature level of 11_0
meaning any GPU that does not have that will fail to launch
And the only issues that have been had are on old GPUs which are incapable of supporting 11_0
Hey @south spire, could you DM your DxDiag report to Phil? He might be able to do more than we could
Same for @austere zinc, could you have your friend DM the .txt output of the DxDiag to Phil up there? He might be able to help further
To fix the Corrupt data found/Serialization error, update your Microsoft Visual C++ and update the sound mod, if you have it installed.
Visual Studio 2015, 2017 and 2019 (only x64)
https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/2977003/the-latest-supported-visual-c-downloads
usually thats caused by the sound mod
if the game launches and closes with no error then its visual c++
Forgot to add that, thanks
All known issues and fixes for update 36:
Game Fails to Start With No Error/An Error About VCRUNTIME
Most likely downloading and installing x64 Visual Studio 2015, 2017 and 2019 will fix this issue.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/2977003/the-latest-supported-visual-c-downloads
An Error About Corrupt Data
You must update the sound mod if installed. If that does not apply try validating/reinstalling foxhole and removing this folder C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Local\Foxhole.
DX11 feature level 10.0 is required to run the engine
This is a deceiving message as the game in its current state requires your GPU to support feature level 11_0, but if your GPU does support this then try a reinstall of your drivers directly from the GPU's site. Best advice would be to DM Phil on discord with the .txt generated from dxdiag when you click Save All Information, they can potentially push an update allowing a lower feature level like the previous version.
there all in one place
Every time I've tried to log into foxhole I keep getting a crash issue. Not only this, but the hot keys that are usually applied in this engine are not present. Is it due to the update or for some other apparent reason?
check pinned messages please
why the fuck is it calling Oculus VR
ya uhh thats apart of the engine update
if the engine sees an Oculus VR headset it will launch into vr mode
I deleted the local file of Foxhole as suggested and I'm reinstalling so we'll see I suppose
The Engine.ini shouldn't apply any hotkeys
when you say "I've tried to log into foxhole I keep getting a crash" do you mean when you start foxhole or when you actually hit play and deploy
Initially it just zoomed in on my character to a far extent. I don't have any screenshots. When I added on the ratio view glitch it did get corrupted. It jumped around errors mostly that I didn't recognize. It was odd because I could still run the game.
This update messed with some stuff to make it harder to do the view range increase I believe
So try a full clean reinstall
What I'm doing currently ig
if its just settings then get rid of the foxhole directory under local
Did you delete everything in Appdata/Local before reinstalling?
During the process of reinstalling, but yes
no no no
that would essentially "reset" your settings and other stored data about the game to new
Before you installed it again did you delete everything in appdata/local
Foxhole doesn't clear your settings when you uninstall it
Yes I deleted it.
Okay cool
i guess the next thing they need to patch is getting rid of the vr stuff
as now that can be another exploit
I mean, does it actually work with VR?
yup
hahaha
Commander Rod of Outer Heaven accidentally figures out he can use his VR headset in Foxhole
@terse flume What do you mean by "the hot keys that are usually applied in this engine are not present."?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/700864375539499052/700864447845105714/unknown.png Verti had this basically. The 2nd section.
[WindowsApplication.Accessibility]
I don't know I didn't ask it was just an exploit Siege used for tanking.
Expand view distance
hmm okay
The view issue is still persisting for me.
What does it look like
a quote from the vr video "I cant believe it clapfoot added the UAV"
kek
that could be worse then the fov exploit
I already tossed it over to KFC
well thats good this war probably going to be hell tho
@terse flume What's it look like ingame, and what does your GameUserSettings file look like
One moment.
why exactly are you putting this into the game files
Putting what, AspectRatioAxisConstraint?
ya
I don't know I didn't ask it was just an exploit Siege used for tanking.
https://canary.discordapp.com/channels/203512636556574720/374272127953666048/713244250472710146
Increased view distance apparently
sounds like an exploit to me
ummm i would just delete the entire foxhole directory and everything should just reset
He already did that
really
Well I don't have many alternatives rn lol
What does it look like in-game
I have issues with uploading steam screenshots. So I can't really show you exactly.
Everything is on ultra in the in-game settings btw.
On steam go to View -> Screenshots -> Show On Disc
you have reinstalled the game or no
What does the game look like when you are having issues
Also this is odd because it was way more up close for me in-game.
But it looks completely normal.
thats normal ya
so when you deploy?
Yes but not in-world but I don't think that would affect much
As in not in any one the regions
*of
Were you using the code to change view distance last update?
Yes
So does it just look very zoomed in compared to what you had last update?
Yes, not normal, almost subnormal.
So it's smaller than what you showed in the image
Yes.
Or is it what you showed in the image but it just looks small because you've gotten used to the view distance exploit
Nope. Smaller than showed in the image.
Is that image from this update?
Yes.
So you managed to take a screencap of stuff which is not being shown on your screen
Ok well I talked with a player in game and he told me the only way to change this issue is to change the view distance to 1280x1024 and to make it Windowed
yes this lets you see further
The devs changed the FOV slightly this update as well I believe
Slightly seems to be an understatement. With the exploit that we had it let us see using the standard full resolution, 1920x1080
No, the exploit let you see nearly 2x further than intended.
Well I mean we could use the exploit with that resolution.
Yes because it was an exploit
Ok well anyhow the new view distance he recommended helped. Do you think changing the computers resolution would help as well?
No 1280x1024 can see further because of how stuff works
Well apparently I'm not the only one having this issue. I talked to Tzar bomba and he said that even when reinstalling and deleting the local foxhole file nothing changed.
man this game is taxing my gpu now too
It's taxing everyone's
unit test [ โ passed ]
maybe the engine update utilizes more of the gpu
also the game refuses to turn on vsync because there is a fps limit that you cannot set to unlimited or disable
ok but not now @sly mortar
huh
i was able to change some settings and its more or less as quiet/cool as usual, i never looked before to see how much GPU was utilized ont his game, but im rollin at like 40-50% now
changed too many variables, but i suspect anti aliasing compounds it
also im able to turn on vsync in full screen
ah vsync doesnt work in windowed or windowed fullscreen
my 1080 class card is running at 85%

but I'm playing at 1920x1080 with everything turned up to max
oh mp4, cant embed. forget it.
mp4 can be embed
Verify files @mortal stratus
Do you use the sound mod
update gpu drivers
enable vsync
you must be in full screen to enable vsync tho
updating gpu drivers wouldnt fix it that happens to me as well without vsync enabled
Do you use the sound mod
@sly mortar I already removed the soundmod
@mortal stratus try updating your visual studio
Visual Studio 2015, 2017 and 2019 (only x64)
https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/2977003/the-latest-supported-visual-c-downloads
do you have multiple monitors?
FRAPS doesnt work on the new UE4 update
I have already been made interested in this actually
My long experience with taking apart broken laptops has intrigued me in this
Because A: desktop > laptop, B: desktop easier to replace parts, C: I work at home, and D: I hear it's cheaper
Building a desktop (especially for gaming) is DEFINITELY cheaper
That's what I've heard! Almost too good to be true.
I've been holding off though, kinda don't want to start until I have a plan, but securing my income has made me want to get it going sooner-than-later
What's your price range do you think?
Well previously I had a laptop that cost $600 (and was reimbursed for that amount when it failed), so I'd want to say between that and $800-900. Could stretch a bit farther as needed but that's the preferred range.
Do you have peripherals already? Screen etc?
I have a screen, mouse, kinda want to replace keyboard as it's on the older side but it's not a priority
I also have a not-insignificant number of screwdrivers from my laptop repair triage kit
Asus right?
hmm i cant find it now
it was lenovo
https://slickdeals.net/f/14066273-28-lenovo-l28u-30-4k-uhd-ips-monitor-249?attrsrc=Test%3AElasticsearchIntegration%3AElasticsearch_rev1&src=SiteSearchV2_SearchBarV2Algo1 sale over i think tho
kind of a weak-ass contrast ratio, i dunno fefresh rates or anything
so much variability with monitors
oh still on sale - just out of stock
om nom nom
Interesting suggestion. ๐ค I'll look into it more closely
4k is really beautiful for text
4ms response, doesn't say refresh rate
will assume 60 hz then
ive never owned a monitor over 60hz, so i dunno what thats like
144hz is amazing
I think derp just set me loose on that site and I was like "cool but also ahh choices"
but i imagine 4k 28 inch @ 144 hz would be expensive
heh
which site? slickdeals?
@blissful sequoia The $250 asus I posted is that I think
No PCpartpicker
i think icanari's part list is pretty good, id make personal changes to the case and fans but its good
yah pcpartpicker is really great
Yeah I was just going with pretty cheap fans to keep cost down
But I would die over that level of sound

yah i gotta have dead silent computer
its only about $50-$90 more for what i would buy
but all the core parts he picked out are good
When it came to buy my first laptop I delayed for six months picking shit out.
How upgradable would it be? As in relative ease of upgrading, say, said fans
Easy
yep easy
4 screws and a single plugin cord
sometimes you have to fish a wire somewhere but thats no big deal
the real sexy stuff is a gold rated power supply, samsung memory, etc
That's good to hear. I'm sick of the open heart surgery of laptops
It's all too compact and fragile
ewww
i cant recommend it for air flow (as there is almost none) but it sure looks sexy
Looks shitty
naaah its nice
the first issue is it's not black @blissful sequoia, the second issue is where the fuck are my filters, and the third issue is that it's not black
oh i have the black one
that's fucking light grey
Show us a damn black one
But yes @sly anvil, cases are a matter of do you like how they look for the most part. Generally $90-100 is about the pricerange to be in as this is where the good quality materials and easy to use ones are
well i got the case on sale for $75
Fractal Design and NZXT are the big good manufacturers
Yeah I still hate it @blissful sequoia
The 2 compartment cases are just bad
heh I have an old Cooler Master MakerCase
i like not having wires, but closed cases are better for air circulation, if that matters to you
Steel frame and everything else is aluminum
i dont have any heat problems, i got that cooler master heat sink and 2 noctua fans on it
one case fan inside, nothign else needed, never goes over say 40C
Air circulation?
whatcha mean @blissful sequoia
Closed cases air goes in one place and comes out another
case fan sucks air in - it circulates through the case and blows out the power supply fan (I think i have that direction right)
Yeah
if the case is open, air just blows over, no circulation
Or the fan on the back behind the CPU
its not like a wind tunnel
I understand that, I don't understand why I'd care
so potentially components on the motherboard are not getting air blown over them - they are just passively cooling
Generally the cooler your machine is the quieter and better it runs
So if you have a closed case your M.2 is getting some air blown over it, which is good
so i pointed a case fan on it
but the hottest component in my computer is not the nvme, or even the video card. its the god damned 10gb network port
Long as it runs! (And doesn't wake the family)
heh
i cannot hear my computer, and i have good hearing
The fans that come with that case sound a bit like a jet engine at full speed
most important part of a computer fan - 4 pin PWM
it can adjust fan speed based on heat, much better than 3 pin resistance fan
these noctua fans can spin as low as 600 rpm
you just cant hear something that slow
for silent cooling you want big slow fans with no resistance on the bearings
Noted
noctua brand is awesome, but their fans are ugly as hell
bequiet! is pretty much Noctua quality but good looking and really quiet
ironic they call it chromax but its black
and ya know gold rated power supplies are nice and quiet usually. that only leaves the video card, you can get aftermarket fans that are nearly silent even at max, or you can just live with stock fan
but nothing you do on a pc will compare to a laptop. they have tiny little fans that spin hella fast, its the worst combination for perceived loudness
^ Higher pitched sounds louder
i see the value of having a chromebook type portable computer
something inexpensive and light, but not as a main computer
Cheap surfaces are nice for that
like actual surface? think im done with them.
Yeah I have one for school stuff and it works pretty well
my last one the keyboard stopped working and its basically a full replacement to fix it
Can even run Fusion and stuff
even tho everything else is working fine! frustrating
Surface laptop?
i think its a surface pro 3 or 4
Or the surface with a cloth keyboard thing
yah with detachable keyboard, but its not cloth, its regular
got myself a dell foldable, like silenus', but with 4k screen
and its got an nvidia graphics card which has been wonderful, not great for games but i do GPU work so its just awesome
after installing the latest update, I'm having an issue where whenever I try to launch foxhole through steam, the game immediately crashes before the game window even opens. I've already verified local files, reinstalled, and reinstalled again after deleting all my local files, but all to no avail. I tried running war.exe as administrator and then the attached error message popped up. Anybody have any idea how to fix this?
@ionic hemlock Download the latest patch of Visual Studio 2015, 2017, and 2019 https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/2977003/the-latest-supported-visual-c-downloads
alright ill give that a shot
i should add that to the post i made
also i see foxhole pushed a update does anyone know exactly what that did
i hear it broke the game
@sly mortar that seemed to do the trick, tysm for the help man, +rep
@ruby island Guessing it's a potential fix for the lag
i mean its a 18 MB update
maybe they re added that network framework they were working on
wonder if they now allow a lower feature level
nope
still reports 11_0 in logs
asked about it, current priority is to fix the lag, once that's fixed they'll look into feature levels
ah ok
does anyone know if the game staff is solving the error of direct x, game only 1 month and the game doesnโt want to open anymore, I didnโt want to but I wonโt keep a recent game that doesnโt open anymore
i am assuming vc++ 14 runtime is the 2017 version
@terse flume its not the priority right now but they will get to it
So, i already reinstalled Foxhole but today after a small Update where it didnt download the last bit it says "Disc write error" does someone have an idea how to quickly fix this problem?
check the disk space on your storage device
100Gigs or so left.
hmm restart steam
Already restarted hole PC.
you are certain there is space
I guess so.
i have ever only seen that error in the case of no space left
and that is the drive the game is stored on
hmmm maybe permissions get screwed up
can you ss the security tab of your common folder for steam with your user selected
ss?
screen shot
actually try running steam in admin mode
that would overwrite and permission issues
if that doesnt work then its not related to permissions
I started Steam as Admin but still looks like this:
and uhh where does it say disk write error
Here when i launch Foxhole
I runned another game thats saved on that Drive so i think the Drive is fine.
right click foxhole on steam and click properties then go to the local files tab and click browse local files then delete war.exe and go into war/binaries/win64 and delete War-Win64-Shipping.exe then validate the game
This War.exe doesnt even exist as far as i can see.
oh well thats your problem just validate the game
already tryed
there is also the possibility your disk may have bad sectors
problem is to scan your disk would take quite a while
I already scanned it, took like 10 seconds
well thats not a disk scan then
is foxhole installed on your c drive
or some other drive
G
My second one
I cleared my Download Cage and changed Download Region, didnt work aswell.
well if you want to run a disk scan and check for bad sectors you will have to run chkdsk G: /f /r /x in a admin command prompt but this will take the drive offline so you will be unable to access files on that drive until the scan is complete
if any fixable errors are detected they will be fixed
it will also take a while
Its running now. Lets hope it works than ๐
if it reports errors unresolved you have got some problems with your drive and is most likely dying
oof
That thing was expensive.
@ruby island Yo so it took 8 mins and it says 0 bad sectors
any errors
nope
hmmm
I think its something real stupid, but idk what it could be since it occured over night.
well for some reason the war.exe doesnt exist which is what steam launches when you start the game
and validation isnt seeing that its gone
ummm dont know if i want to do that
Does that contain personal informaitions or?
no it doesnt
try creating a txt document or something where the war.exe is supposed to be as i just simulated the war.exe not being there for me and it said missing executable so its gt to be some sort of permissions
ya try that
If that doesnt work i will try to defragment my drive ๐ฆ
@ruby island Wow
It worked
Thanks for your time ^^
I've been working for the past hour to get voice chat working in this game
This worked when I played years ago. Now it doesn't and I'm pretty damn annoyed at having spent an hour on this.
I've:
- Uninstalled and reinstalled the game.
- Removed the local app data folder.
- Disabled all soundcards for playing and recording but the ones in use.
- Disabled the SIP ALG function on my router
- Tested that things worked in steam.
None of this has managed to get the mic working.
What gives?
<@&205052410224181249>
And yes, I've done that
There aren't any others to select but the mic I'm actually using. A NI Komplete Audio 6. @terse flume
hm
whenever i launch the game it ruins my inputs (though my mic is broken so it doesn't matter)
Look at that. Now I get an actual error before it connects to the voice chatt
Voice Chat Error [6] 3-5025
I have again checked that my audio settings are correct as well
@hot oak Multiple people are having issues with this. What is the fix?
make sure you have your default mic set in windows sound control panel and have the game set to default system device
have you tried changing your dns servers
I'm already using Google DNS servers as mentioned in the #technical-read-firstโ section @ruby island
Same thing happening to me
Iโve spent 3 years on this but no solutions
Maybe just give up @meager yew
@meager yew Use the tester in the steam settings. Does it work in steam?
@hot oak As mentioned above, things work fine in Steam (Tested via the test mic voice menu), Discord, and everything else
@meager yew have you tried the stuff in pins?
As mentioned above, yes, I've tried everything mentioned in the pins
@hot oak
That includes disabling the SIP ALG stuff in my router
Yay got it to run on debian 9 with proton 4.something, so happy, no voice yet but hopefully I'll work it out, using pulseaudio
I'm having the same problem
okay so it updated then I tabbed out to discord when I was playing and it did it again so cool
@terse flume show me your graphical settings?
entire hex in game, players cant move, chat doesnt work
refineries arent showing valid resources
also I got out of my truck to try and package it. I'm now stuck doing it infinitely
We might need a restart on the region at this rate
Heartlands still completely MIA, this has been what 20 minutes now?
at least shut down Viper's Pit for 20 minutes so playing field is even
nobody's in here, huh?
Are there still problems?
COMPLETE REGION DOWN FOR MORE THAN 3 HOURS WTF
Biggest colonial logistic center offline
Is there any fix for the audio issues I'm facing @hot oak ?
@meager yew Have you tried the pins?
is it normal for getting small updates everyday ?
cause im always geeting small updates everyday, the size is usually 15MB>20MB and the unpacking tooks forever
@hot oak for the, now third time, yes.
I hate to be short here but are you reading what I'm sending you?
@gentle otter yes they are pushing small update to most likely solve all the issues they have been experiencing with the lag
@meager yew can you send your war.log contained within C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Local\Foxhole\Saved\Logs
if the file is too large for discord you can use pastebin
The issue you're having is Voice Chat Error [6] 3-5025 correct @meager yew?
The issue I'm having is that outgoing voice does not work at all. The above error only appears intermentitly and may be completely unrelated @sly mortar
No that error is directly related to it
That error code means that your capture device is non-functional.
Is your default device your microphone or something else?
Default device is a Native Instruments Komplete Audio 6 MK2
What is that
Both for input and output
Is that a microphone?
It's a USB soundcard
Could you please switch your default device to your microphone, even if it means plugging it into a different port on your PC
That IS my microphone
I can attempt to use my inbuilt microphone again but I believe I tested that and found it did not work
That's an audio control interface
Which as far as I can tell does not have an integrated microphone
So are you able to plug in the microphone which you have plugged into that into your PC?
brb like 15 minutes
@sly mortar my computer does not have a XLR port and phantom power, so that's a negative
Do you have a microphone which does not need to plug into an XLR port that you can use
Yeh, it's about 4 AM here ATM though (I'm in CET). Will hop on and test tomorrow (Though I'm relatively certain I tried another mic as well)
There is the war.log. From looking at that, it definitely does not appear to be picking up my soundcard.
you can blame vivox for not picking it up
@ruby island ah, i see, thanks !
Yesterday the biggest logi center for colonials was down for 5 hours, now Loch Mรณr is down ๐ฆ I dont understand why this happens there isnt even a lot of people online
Hi (idk if this is the right chat) but I've got technical issues.
Basically the new patch (at the begining of this war) was amazing : I had like 120fps & almost no lags in AW for the begining of the war. While I usually only get about 60fps in-game & smalls screen freezes about 1seconds at random times.
But with the change to the old uptdates I now have again 60 fps : which is an issue for me because for a reason I don't understand the lower ammount of fps I got, the slower my camera rotates (I mostly use click and rotate in combat, and not click and drag). This is an issue in combat, because the slower your camera rotates, the harder it is for you to change your angle of view, and therefore get a better aim on the opponent.
Also, I am now having small "screen freezes" of about 1 second during combat.
I would really like to fix those issues, and I'm wondering if it could be due to my computer or the game (since with the new update at the begining of this new war, I no longer had those issues and the game really felt amazing and damn fluid).
I'm also wondering if the devs are willing to put the update that we had at the begining of the war back. And if they do, in about how long would that be?
Whenever anybody says something ingame it cuts out every half word or so I have tried everything people have told me to do, Uninstall and Reinstall, Switch DNS, Delete the VFX file, and verify that the output and input arent switched. I have done all of these. I know its a Foxhole issue as in other games like War of Rights and Holdfast I can understand people perfectly. I have had this problem every since I got Foxhole in mid 2019. Any help would be appreciated as this bug ruins the game for me.
@pearl bear You may have had increased performance due to a bug with the shadows. Shadows wouldn't render even when turned on. People had to reset their shadow settings.
@austere zinc The lag issue is a top priority for the devs at the moment, they understand how serious it is
@cunning fog do War of Rights and Holdfast use Vivox for voice comms?
Vivox is... kind of a pain in the butt for us when diagnosing
it's probably vivox lmao
Any tips on how to fix it?
@cunning fog have you seen this page? https://www.vivox.com/gamers/help/19
honestly thats the only thing I can come up with
ik the voicemeeter software used to fix the issue with cutting mic
Its not my mic that cuts its everybody elses
yeah, it used to help with that too
voicemeeter, u can find the link in pinned messages in this channel
What is the key to press to save exact position and screenshot in order to report bugs?
Thank you !
I keep getting failed to download profile?
restart steam
How to fix 60fps cap? Changing config file doesn't help anymore
Hey folks, there is no way I can equip a bayonet, did anyone encounter that?
rifle on, bayonet in correct place I suppose, I press F (in keybindings it's "fire mode") and nothing
reset keybinds
@stone cape tip. Submit your starter kit when you go into battle as infantry
You dont need that weight
oooh wal mart has a ryzen 5 3600 for $163. when are you guys upgrading your machines?!
thats an excellent price..
A small update came to the game two days ago, and after this update, my computer's FPS value was fixed at 60. I tried the methods written on the internet but I could not find a solution. Any solution?
I have the same problem, I guess everybody does who has over 60hz monitor and notices that. Haven't found solution yet. Changing config file doens't help anymore, game overrides it or something.
ya game is now locked to 60 no way of changing it
even changing the config and making it read only doesnt work
so any good news about DX10 ?
D:
Low priority compared to the lag issues*
@sly mortar What kind of fucked is this
I already did a check disk and then blue screen 10 minutes later
What version of windows are you running
7
Did you restart your computer like it tells you?
yeah
So congrats you just fucked your disc
If you have a Win7 installation disc you can maybe repair it
My windows corrupted?
Because this is what I had before
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Did this, and when it was done did a reboot and it booted up fine. 10 minutes later blue screen but differnt error
does it stay on stable in safe mode
Yeah
So you can load it in safe mode?
well then its a driver or anti virus problem
I think apart of my harddrive is corrupted
Because thats what the error origonally was
if thats the case run the chkdsk utility
Did that
what did it say?
it took 6 to 7 hours
yeah that's relatively normal
When it was done it simply rebooted
logged in normal desktop
all my programs turning on, I open a youtube video and start watching something. mid video blue screen but differnt error
just /f and /r
not the /x
I basically unplugged the thing and im just waiting for a ride and im going to hand the machine off to somebody who does this for a living
check event viewer that will show the results of the scan
Hes been fixing my shit for years for free
I figure I could help him if I could figure out what the fuck is wrong
you can try validating windows diles
hm
if your windows is fixed, then BSOD in 10 minutes, its because its downloading a driver and installing it automatically causing the BSOD
Could my windows try updating itself while I was a sleep but fucked up
i would start unhooking things until i determine which device is the cause.
it could also be ram that has gone bad...
thats interesting
How old of a PC is it?
you ever heard of velocity micro
i have
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i dont know ... where but i have.
do you have multiple ram chips? its worth trying running with half at a time
ya probably hardware then
I bought it in highschool because im computer babby and bought a premade
and gradually updated it
When was the last time you upgraded the harddrive
but yeah this thing is prone to issues, last year I had the power supply die on me
twice
doubt this has anything to do with the harddrive
I have two computers so im not affected so much but it was my work computer/media computer
and now I cant multi task

pull out one stick of ram and test
if it still blue screens then put the other stick back in then pull out the other
My computer has old school clamps so I don't have the tools to undo them
if it still blue screens its not your ram
can also run memtest
or very very unlikely your ram
Try running memtest
@terse flume there are problems with spacial characters with the last update
mmm now amazon has that ryzen 5 3600 for 167 USD also... if i were gonna be building a machine and it was gonna be AMD i would grab that processor now
hello, are nukes enabled this war?
Yes.
anyone know what the hell happened to the game? something messed up my settings, and unlocking fps is not working anymore, and my game screen tearing like hell ...
yep. the devs tried to lock out the FOVers and this is what happened, evidently
some people say full screen is related to the tearing
vsync only works in fullscreen not windowed full screen...
its kind of retarded they locked the fps to 60
i get screen tearing as well and dont like full screen mode so i just live with it
i think maybe the issue more that they locked a ton of settings
im curious tho, if you hate screen tearing you need vsync right?
well they didnt have to lock the fps
if you use vsync you get locked to your set refresh rate, which is probably 60?
yes
if you monitor can go higher then if you set it higher, vsync should lock to the same
if i have 144hz then i go full screen and vsync will also be 144hz, right?
thats assuming you turn on vsync
im trying to determine who is having problems
is it people with high frequency monitors in windowed mode?
or high frequency monitors in full screen?
60 hz people? im so confused
i mean all vsync does is sync the timings up with your monitor so technically if in full screen the game can decide to lock your monitors refresh rate to 60
but when they initialize direct3d or opengl or vulkan or whatever, they probably specify 0 refresh rate, so default
default is determined by window's last frequency used on that resolution
well i have a 60 Hz monitor and i still get screen tearing like hell

