avatar-help

[somber sequoia]

like select a different object

[civic coral]

nope nothing

[somber sequoia]

restart unity? 🙂

no idea what's going on there

[civic coral]

ive redownloaded it it didnt do anything

[somber sequoia]

I'd inspect the model in Blender then.

[raven jacinth]

How can I animate FX paramaters in an animation clip?

[civic coral]

it also happens to a model my freind has uploaded to vrc themself but when they sent me the fbx file it didnt work in my unity project - fixed it

[somber sequoia]

you want to change the values of parameters? use VRC Avatar Parameter Driver on the animation state, rather than in a clip.

[raven jacinth]

no, I want to animate it. I know how to use the parameter driver already.

[somber sequoia]

this is the option you have

[raven jacinth]

hm

I have animation clips where the hand closes and I don't want to have to make the animation contain the raw transforms of the bones as that would take up lots of space

[somber sequoia]

yeah I animate the hand closing in this case

[timber wharf]

@raven jacinth what

you cant use raw bone transform for humanoid rig anyway

as soon as its humanoid, fx has no power over it

if you need to animate hands, you do so in gesture/action or whatever other layer

[radiant night]

Hmm, I'm messing with the eyes on my model, after re-importing it and uploading one of the eye's position isnt right, it only looks weird after uploading, when previewing any animation (even empty ones) and in the avatar configuration menu, anywhere else ive checked, it looks like normal

Any ideas?

[somber sequoia]

make sure your blink blendshapes in the avatar descriptor are the correct ones

those can get shuffled around when if you change the shape key list somehow

[radiant night]

Not sure its that, it happens when previewing ANY animation, even a blank one

[somber sequoia]

oh, huh, that's interesting.

[quaint hound]

hi, super quick question, whats the quickest and easiest way to convert a pc only avatar into a quest avatar? im okay with some complicated props gone, but id prefer to keep all clothing (albeit without matswaps)

are there any tools or would it just be a pain to go through for everything

;-

[humble cave]

Oh the video didn't send properly hold on

[quick pine]

I got stuck in this pose. I don't know how that happened and how to get rid of it,

[tall osprey]

I seem to have made a "Legacy AnimationClip" and it won't let me add it to the Animator. There's no animation controller assigned, but it doesn't let me add it to Animator regardless
Did this process change for the 2022 SDK or something, or did I mess up somewhere? Figured out the legacy part. Didn't think it was as simple as toggling off Legacy in Inspector when Debug mode is on. Though now the animation doesn't work

[somber sequoia]

It happened because you were animating and didn't reset the pose when complete - you can do that by just selecting a different animation.
If it's actually stuck now, Pumkin's Tools has a feature to reset it.

[quick pine]

Tried both of those things and Pumpkin's tools just rips the whole model and everything that's attached apart.

[somber sequoia]

that's weird.
Is the model prefab unpacked?

[quick pine]

no

[somber sequoia]

you could click on each bone and in the Transform component, right-click the rotation and click 'revert'

[spring zealot]

so i uploaded 3 avis i downloaded them but when i go into expressions theres no toggles

[somber sequoia]

downloaded?

[spring zealot]

from a website

[somber sequoia]

oh I see, not from vrchat, got it.

[spring zealot]

its models used in vrc that are public

[somber sequoia]

well you'd have to look at each one

[proper fjord]

how do i fixxx this bruh

its a shirt that im trying to add

[balmy barn]

managed not to show how many other red errors you have, look for the first ones

could be isp routing issue

[balmy barn]

yellow ones might say something about asw/blabalba connection refused/failed something, so far id blame your isp

[proper fjord]

okay so how do i fix that ?

[balmy barn]

try warp/vpn, see if it uploads 🤷‍♂️ no clue if ipv6 could be the cause (probably just vrchat loading)

[molten pike]

just asking for sake of it I am new to this, does anyone have a prefab for the Akittu's Stylized Experiment (which is a free avatar) but from what I imported does not have a prefab and I am inexperienced

[ornate stump]

Then what actually you had imported? You might have to be thorough about what you imported.

[short ferry]

i'm trying to upload an avatar and it says "The VRCSDK build was aborted because the VRCSDKPreprocessAvatarCallback 'BuildFrameworkPreprocessHook' reported a failure."

[ornate stump]

See more error detail in Console panel.

[short ferry]

I have no idea what I'm looking at

[ornate stump]

If you want people to help you look then you have to post the detail here.

[cyan surge]

im trying to help make a pc only avatar and make it compatable with quest for a friend but im a beginner and dont know how to do this ive looked through multiple tutorials and messed around with stuff for over 5 hours now and still cant get missing textures to appear.the ears are just plain white and so is the face??

im tired bro someone please tell me this is an easy fix or something..

[molten pike]

the unity package

[ornate stump]

Of course but what contained inside of the unitypackage?

[somber sequoia]

see the first pinned message here for how to share relevant error messages with us

[ornate stump]

Did you properly setup the material for that?

[cyan surge]

i have no idea..

[short ferry]

oh I see whats happening, Modular avatar is screwing with it

[ornate stump]

What material setup that you're using for it currently?

[cyan surge]

i still have no idea i was just trying to make the avatar quest compatable with some github thing i got..

[molten pike]

only fbx no prefab

[ornate stump]

https://youtu.be/rRAnDMUbWt8?t=143 Watch video at time stamp to see how to do basic material setup.

[indigo compass]

If you mean the "clothing" then it is done in an unusual way, but it is all there alongside the base mesh.

[ornate stump]

Avatar package usually came with either prefab of the avatar itself, or a scene that contains the avatar. If you saw a scene file got imported, then that's the scene you have to open.

[molten pike]

will check

[cyan surge]

ya that didnt help im still so confused, the avatar should have everything ready iimported it into unity its just the face skin and ears are solid white

[ornate stump]

Are you sure that you're using the avatar prefab or open the scene that contained that avatar? And not by dragging its raw model file into the scene?

[cyan surge]

i think im using the open scene that has the avatar??

[ornate stump]

What scene name that you opened?

[cyan surge]

what?

bro i dont know anything😭

[ornate stump]

Literally the file name that you open is the scene name.

[raven jacinth]

hm well i'm putting a non-humanoid rig over a humanoid rig so

[cyan surge]

ohh you want the file name?

[raven jacinth]

i also don't want my avatar to be 150+ megabytes either

[ornate stump]

Yes. Just to confirm that you actually open the correct scene.

[cyan surge]

i sent it in dms

[ornate stump]

Just send it right here.

[cyan surge]

it says "moopi by peekabowo 4" in the assets for the name

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot the file as well?

[ornate stump]

That's unitypackage file.

[cyan surge]

ya?

[ornate stump]

It isn't scene file.

[cyan surge]

whats the difference between scene file and unity package file?

[ornate stump]

Scene file is the workspace that you work to creates things in unity. Unitypackage is a container file that contain many more files to be used in unity.

[cyan surge]

i downloaded the unityfile avatar and i put it in the unity thing to try and make it quest compatible with a github file thing i have so i can upload it to my friend cause they wanted it

[balmy barn]

you got it from where

[cyan surge]

some link my friend gave me

[somber sequoia]

oh boy

[cyan surge]

what..

[balmy barn]

you friend should learn not to give paid avatars to others

[ornate stump]

If you don't pay for it, that's likely to be pirated.

[cyan surge]

well im her friend tho is just she wants it quest compatible and i was tryna make it compatable..

[balmy barn]

its probably a terrible made avatar and its a tooon of work to get that one working for a questie (when a creator dont ever bother stats its usually terrible)

[cyan surge]

ohh

i mean theres obviously other avatars to choose from but it says pc only and i thought it would be a breeze to make it quest compatable but ive spent like the last 6 hours tryna get this stupid crap to work and im still stuck at page 1 and not a single ounce of progress made

[supple marsh]

I wish more booth creators did this tbh, even if it's horribly unoptimized at least you know how much you're working with

[cyan surge]

ima cry

[supple marsh]

Making something quest compatible isn't that easy, especially if you're a complete beginner to avatar creation

[cyan surge]

i thought i could just pop the file into unity and use the github file thing i downloaded and it would convert then i could just export it to my friend or something

[somber sequoia]

which github file thing is this?

[cyan surge]

it says vrcquesttools

[somber sequoia]

that's a reasonable thing

still isn't magic though

[cyan surge]

it should be because i dont know anything about this😭

[molten pike]

ok it was in a odd area am good now thank

[ornate stump]

Unfortunate because magic doesn't exist.

[balmy barn]

grabbed one of their avatars , pretty much what i expected trash , there is a point a public avatar shouldnt be allowed to be public

[somber sequoia]

I would like some magic that washes my car

well I suppose we kinda have that, bad example.

[somber sequoia]

ugh.

[balmy barn]

upload self im okey with, not a public (i have waaaay less chance seeing one someone upload then a public many use)

[supple marsh]

334mb of vram?????

[balmy barn]

public avatars see many of my friends in 200-300 whenever it a public

[supple marsh]

Oh yeah I got my vram usage down on my new main to like 55mb

[balmy barn]

my avatars <50mb , maybe 80 kinda depends what im doing

[supple marsh]

Instead of like 100

[cyan surge]

wait is that one of the avatars from the same creator of the avatar i tried to mess with?

[balmy barn]

anyway converting that av to quest, is.. not easy it would require alot of blender retopology

just the shapekeys + verticies alone over 10mb easy

[supple marsh]

Still wondering if there's like a way to merge these skinned meshes without breaking the hue shift or heartbeat animation though (yes I know I sent this pic here before shoo)

But ehhhhh

Good enough

Even my friends told me to leave it at medium since not many people go that far

[somber sequoia]

Yes there absolutely is a way, but you'll probably need to actually do it manually

[supple marsh]

Yeah that's what I feared

But uhhh

Yeah good enough lol

[somber sequoia]

I suspect that if you're asking, you don't know how, but it's kinda easy

[supple marsh]

Nah I do know how

lol

I usually do it with AAO but thats where I found it broke the hue shift and heartbeat stuff

[somber sequoia]

what's AAO?

[supple marsh]

Anatawa avatar optimizer, it's an auto-optimizer usually but it comes with tons of other optimization stuff you can throw on

[somber sequoia]

ahhh

[hearty panther]

Is there any transparent shader that would work on mobile?

[somber sequoia]

none that use alpha transparency, the best you've got is the additive or multiply, which are harder to use

[dire linden]

Would someone help me get my blender textures into unity on my avi?

[delicate imp]

Anyone Know how to package a prefab with parameters and menus in vrc fury?

[pine valley]

if you mean "how to export a unitypackage", just export the prefab

unity will include all of the assets that it depends on

but maybe you're asking about how to install a menu + parameter list + set of animators with vrcfury?

[delicate imp]

Id like them all to merge, its for a really complex system

Im not sure how to attach it to another avatar

[pine valley]

https://vrcfury.com/components/full-controller/

[delicate imp]

oooooooo that looks promising! Thank you!

[pine valley]

If you've recorded all of your animations from an animator on the root of your avatar, then you'll need to add a Path Rewrite Rule to the full controller

so, for example, if your setup is like this;

• Avatar
  • Prefab <-- full controller is here
    • Foo

your animations will have paths like

Avatar/Prefab/Foo

which need to be rewritten into

Prefab/Foo

[mellow cairn]

? (pls ping!)

[pine valley]

Are you sure you've imported all the packages needed?

assuming this is an avatar you bought, read the instructions; it will tell you what packages need to be installed through the VCC

[mellow cairn]

mk!

even though i have gogo and vrcfury in there

[fossil idol]

is there anyone who has ever dealt with eye problems on a model, where like, the iris was blendshapes and vertexs in blender and not understanding how to convert it over to unity ToT what am I doing wrong here..

[median timber]

Having issues uploading avatar

[mellow cairn]

more details?

[median timber]

I bought an avatar from someone and Im having trouble uploading it to vrc for quest (it was confirmed by the creator that it works on quest)

Im very very new to this stuff

I've followed like 5 different tutorials and spent like 12 hrs on this

The avatar file is fbx filetype

And has a .blend and .blend1 file

[mellow cairn]

okay, so an FBX cant be uploaded, you need the unity package

[median timber]

A

How to make unity package from fbx

[mellow cairn]

you dont

[median timber]

What about the blend files

[mellow cairn]

can you show me what the file came with?

[mellow cairn]

those are just for blender

[median timber]

this is whats in the zip

[trim edge]

idk what to do to fix this ;-;

[mellow cairn]

clear the thing consol, upload again, scroll up, show the errors

[mellow cairn]

yeah you have to build the avi

[median timber]

How

[mellow cairn]

but you can commission someone to do it

[mellow cairn]

that i cant explain the whole thing

[median timber]

Dawg I just paid 20$ for ts

[trim edge]

this is what it says now

[mellow cairn]

send me the link?

[median timber]

This

[mellow cairn]

that means its not an avatar

its a base

you have to make the avatar

you can either pay or find someone to do it or learn yourself

i cant explain the whole process to you

[median timber]

How much?

[mellow cairn]

but i do take commissions and i could do this cheap

[mellow cairn]

depends on the person

[median timber]

How cheap

[mellow cairn]

uhh

maybe one profile deco set? you would js gift it

[median timber]

Huh?

[mellow cairn]

but i couldnt do it tonight

[median timber]

Nitro gift thing?

[mellow cairn]

from the discord shop 😭

[median timber]

You can gift those?

[mellow cairn]

yeah i can send u the link dm me and ill get to you in a bit

[median timber]

And I suppose I could?

[mellow cairn]

if you want mine are open

15 dollars is rlly cheap for a comm so

[median timber]

Msg me

[fossil idol]

could anyone help me with my eye problem 😢

[trim edge]

i fixed it but ty

[somber sequoia]

did you describe the problem somewhere?

[fossil idol]

yeah here @somber sequoia, im trying to get a model over into vrchat but im struggling so hard, I fr would pay someone to help me at this point I just want it to work right 😭

[somber sequoia]

Looks like there's an overlay material that should be transparent.

[fossil idol]

im not sure where though or how to look for that, ive just been trying to mess with any settings 😩

[somber sequoia]

it's hard to do more than guess without the model, but my guess is one of those materials is the overlay

[fossil idol]

been at this for like months and allllll day today

should I just give up, like I have no clue where to get help with this

[somber sequoia]

you could try to change the material I guess

[fossil idol]

yeah ive done that, idk what to do now at this point

again, id pay someone to help me like im suffering intensely after putting so much work in for JUST the eyes to be broken

[rocky nova]

imported my fbx from maya into unity, but my custom textures for the irises and mouth werent included, is there a way to change it back in unity?

[somber sequoia]

you don't care anyway, you have to properly setup materials (with textures) in Unity.

[rocky nova]

ah I have no idea how to do that (I'm completely new to unity)

[somber sequoia]

there are lots and lots of tutorials which include material setup, as well as unity documentation

[ancient adder]

Do avatar parameters between pc and quest need to have the same types, or just the same names?

[glass thorn]

Anyone else having issues with id stuff and the sdk not uploading the model once built?

[somber sequoia]

Names - you can kinda play with types a bit: https://vrc.school/docs/Other/Parameter-Mismatching/

[glass thorn]

Any help?

[somber sequoia]

always show the first 2-3 errors, not the last.

[somber sequoia]

timeout suggests network issues.

[glass thorn]

Hope it gets reported

[rocky nova]

tried to but VRCAvatarDescriptor to the model but this happened

[tough marsh]

does anybody know why this happens? 1st ones blender 2nd ones in unity

her visemes work fine but her base mouth is messed up

[tough marsh]

did u add it in the hierarchy??

[rocky nova]

that fixed it

[glass thorn]

server end?

[somber sequoia]

I have no way of knowing

[tough marsh]

idk how to fix this ive never had this happen to me before with 2d mouthes

[rocky nova]

got an error trying to upload it
It said it wants a neck joint but my model doesnt need one, it just has the head joint move

[tough marsh]

for it to work in vrchat u NEED to have the vital bone structure
doesnt matter if its weight painted to it or not

[rocky nova]

ah okay

[somber sequoia]

Yeah, to have a humanoid rig in VRChat you must have a neck bone

[tough marsh]

same with shoulder bones i believe, i just add them and dont weight paint them to anything

[somber sequoia]

Yep

[glass thorn]

if its my end, how do I fix?

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea how to fix an unknown problem, sorry

[glass thorn]

damn, thanks anyways

[tough marsh]

my avatars now missing blendshapes in unity, anyone able to help?

[somber sequoia]

what did you just do?

[tough marsh]

basically my avis fully set up and stuff but when i re-imported the model and got her mouth fixed a bunch of her blendshapes are missing

i re-imported it the exact same way as before as in with the same settings etc

[somber sequoia]

Okay - did you leave an un-applied mesh modifier when exporting?

Blender will force-apply those on export, and that removes shape keys

[viral inlet]

Is anyone here familiar with OSCLeash?

[limpid iris]

Help

[somber sequoia]

unfortunately that's a pretty useless error mesage. Got any others? Paste the first 2-3, see the first pinned message in here for instructions on how to show what's needed

[somber sequoia]

there you go - that first red error shown there that says "missing script" is your problem.

you'll have to install whatever package that requires

hmmmmm suspicious prefab name too

[limpid iris]

i just deleted it

and it fixed

[somber sequoia]

that's one way to do it

[unreal crow]

I have been trying to fix this for a hot while but im not sure how to!!! every object in my hand just shifts upside down even tho everything is fine on blender!!

[somber sequoia]

bone roll for that hand you have selected is not 0, that's pretty weird. Check all the humanoid bones, make sure the roll is 0

[unreal crow]

went in and changed all the rolls to 0, seems it still happening

[somber sequoia]

yeah that may not be the answer, but it can be problematic

[unreal crow]

it seems to only happen with the hand bones, but everything else is fine, its seems like a unity issue that im not sure how to fix

[main kiln]

Hhhh so I keep getting a strange error about "Python: Traceback (most recent call last):" and then a bunch of File issues? I've been trying to look up why it was doing that, but I couldn't find anything. Blender just recently updated though to 5.1 so I'm wondering if that's the problem? The model was originally on 5.0 and was reimported into 5.1 (mainly because I was remodeling it and added new meshes to it) but I don't know if there's anything I can do to fix it atm

That and I cannot read code for anything so trying to look up stuff online about it is really confusing, I don't know anything about code to be able to navigate the problem 😭

Though unless this is an issue to go to Blender for, like a "help desk" or whatever, then otherwise probably just ignore this 😭

[somber sequoia]

what plugin did you install?

[main kiln]

Uhhh I dont think I installed any new plugin? Otherwise Im not sure where to find where I would've, unless thats in "Preferences"

[radiant jackal]

i dont ge why is this happening has this happend to anybody ??

[main kiln]

My issues be in Blender rn but Im sureIm gonna end up there eventually 😔

[somber sequoia]

plugins are definitely in preferences. you could try deleting the folder they're in

[somber sequoia]

looks like something's looking for face tracking but it's not installed - you've got a bunch of stuff to fix there

[radiant jackal]

Look I'm still new into this i have just manage to upload the pc version without problem but im doing this for a friend and it has been annoying

[main kiln]

Finally navigated my files so now I gotta make sure I dont mess anything up 😅

[somber sequoia]

one step at a time

[sand cedar]

ive been having my sky show up gray and i cant move the eye for the view posistion how do i fix this

i cant really do anything like this how do i revert it back to normal

[fluid ledge]

Love you all

[orchid spoke]

Hello, I have a small issue.
I get these errors.
Anyone knows how to fix them?

[somber sequoia]

are those the only four errors?

[orchid spoke]

Yes, I don't know how, but I fixed them

[orchid spoke]

Sorry, see above

[simple forum]

So where do I even start to get on the journey of making a. Avi. I see assists that I want to combine together but idk how to start.

[astral locust]

did you applied rotation transforms in Blender and exported FBX properly?

[sand cedar]

Anyone know how to fix this

[ornate stump]

You should screenshot entire unity screen instead.

[tough marsh]

sorry for the late reply and ping but no, there were no modifiers left to apply other than armature links

[ornate stump]

Is it just a few bunch or all the blendshape that's missing?

[ebon knoll]

do i need to add contact sender to match the contact reciever collision tag? or are the colliders added automatically with avatar descriptor count as senders automatically?

[timber wharf]

@ebon knoll yep, default colliders count automatically

you add only custom senders

[ebon knoll]

ty

[ornate stump]

Did you add avatar descriptor?

[ornate stump]

And you also have to enable gizmos here

[sand cedar]

yea

[ornate stump]

Enable gizmos first then edit view point like usual.

[sand cedar]

it works now i think

thx

[ornate stump]

Skybox becoming gray is irrelevant.

[frank spruce]

Whenever I go to make a vrchat menu or parameter my unity gets stuck with this message and it'll sit there for literal hours. I've tried deleting my logs folder and what not and even updating my sdk to the newest one and still no dice

[somber sequoia]

usually if I end up with weird processing times or other strange compile issues, I shut down Unity and wipe out the whole Library directory tree in the project and let Unity rebuild it when I next start it. That itself might take a while though.

Assuming it's just one project that's having problems.

[frank spruce]

I wiped out my library folder once though and it sadly didn't help

[somber sequoia]

Ah, too bad

[wraith geyser]

hi i use Av3creactor to create my toggles, it usually create toggles like this

but suddenly it started doing this

any idea what is going please? did i change a setting somewhere by accident?

its literally in the same project and i didnt updated av3

[sage anchor]

Can anyone upload an avatar for me? I'm not quite sure how to make it quest compatiable

[raven jacinth]

how can i do AAPs

[eternal aurora]

I'm having a little problem adding custom clothing on an avatar. I have an armature link on the clothes, I made sure the bones have matching names for the model's rig, but this keeps happening with it. It is at least connected to the avatar but the arms aren't syncing up the way they should. The toggle is also getting stuck and I can't remove it once toggling it on once.

[raven jacinth]

someone??

[lilac musk]

What's AAP?

[obtuse trail]

Animated Animator Parameters

[trim edge]

hi there! so i recently uploaded an avatar however, on quest the hands dont let the fingers move but it works just fine on pc, how would one fix this?

[raven jacinth]

why does animated animator parameters work when i go in playmode in the editor but not ingame??

[raven jacinth]

someone help

AAPs only work for me in play mode

[mellow cairn]

wtf... they're fine in blender?

[balmy barn]

eyebones need to be straight up or you get that (could also be wrong bones)

[obtuse trail]

Sorry, I am new to animators. I dont know what to do in your case. Have a look later when more experienced people are answering

[mellow cairn]

okay any tips to fix it?? i didnt make the head so

[obtuse trail]

You have to edit the bones in Blender

[mellow cairn]

okay, i under stand that, but they look fine, any tips as to what needs to change?

they look like this

[obtuse trail]

As Thulen said, they must point up

[lilac musk]

As Thulen said, they need to be straight up with 0 roll

[mellow cairn]

okay so i need to set the roll to 0?

[lilac musk]

... and straight up...

[balmy barn]

if you have cats just click the rotate eyebones, otherwise move them so they point up ( alt+r , sets roll to 0 - default should anyway )

[mellow cairn]

i dont have a lot of experience in bone work so step to fix this would be great 😭

[mellow cairn]

OKAY TY THIS IS HELPFUL

now they are wayyyyy down

[trim edge]

gonna bring this down here since it seems to have gotten burried

[crystal canyon]

how do i lock armatures in place?

[somber sequoia]

VRC Animator Tracking Control - but you don't get control per-bone that way, so it may not be ideal.
The other way is to actually use rotation constraints for each and everybone below the one you want to 'lock', with two sets of bones, one that the IK controls, and one that moves the mesh.

[obtuse trail]

Any screens of what you are trying to do with the model in unity? Anything said here would be guessing since we cant see what you see.

If the problem is the rigging, you would need a 3D app to get the gauntlet to match the hand rig.

[river thorn]

Hi! So I'm trying to learn how to import models to andriod and got this error message. What do I do?

[somber sequoia]

If you click "build and test" you must have a connected Android device or emulator. probably this is not what you actually want.

[river thorn]

Well I first tried on PC first and it worked, but I'm trying out a model I can acess on my Quest

[somber sequoia]

ok so just build and publish then

[river thorn]

It worked!

Thanks!

(you just saved me a huge headache lamo)

[vapid slate]

@balmy lantern how do i fix this?

@gaunt knoll would u know? its for alcom

sorry for pinging

[balmy lantern]

Seems like your cc settings.json is corrupted. You might be able to fix it yourself if you know anything about JSON syntax. The JSON is located at %appdata%/Local/VRChatCreatorCompanion

[vapid slate]

idk how to do that...

[balmy lantern]

If you don't have a lot of projects added or 3rd party repos added from your old creator companion, you could delete the settings.json (with alcom closed) and then open alcom and it should regenerate the settings.json and you can just add back your unity projects as those are not deleted, just not indexed by the cc

[vapid slate]

how would i delete the settings? it wont let me open vcc .,.

[gaunt knoll]

#creator-companion message

The step by step guide is here

[vapid slate]

tysm :D

sorry to be a bother lol...

[balmy lantern]

No worries

[timid osprey]

so i picked up an nsfw avatar of a character i like since it's literally the only model of him that there is. i downsized some of the proportions through blender and was going to continue removing the other nsfw aspects myself until i noticed that it already came with an sfw version, but i don't really want to discard the sculpting changes i already made on blender. is there any way to place the changes i made onto the sfw version? i've been trying a lot of things for hours to try and get it to be exactly the same, but nothing has been working

i have both versions like, side by side on blender and have been scratching my head for a while on how to proceed

[timid osprey]

i think at this rate i may just bite the bullet and sculpt the sfw version myself to the best of my ability to replicate what i did, because my patience is dwindling and i've been at this for an entire night now 😭

[somber sequoia]

well you might be able to try a shrinkwrap modifier on the old one to match the new one, but it may not work the best, and then you'd need to apply it without wrecking shape keys, and that may not work great either....

[timid osprey]

i did try a shrinkwrap modifier, but it didn't make any visible changes to anything, which was very confusing

[somber sequoia]

hmm

[timid osprey]

i set the modifier on the original, set the target to the sculpted, isolated it to a specific vertex group, adjusted the data to see if it made any changes, lo and behold nothing appears to have happened

[somber sequoia]

no, opposite

modifier goes on the one you want to be changed

the data source is the other one, the one that is already changed

[timid osprey]

yeah that's what i was referring to. the original is the one i want the changes i made on the sculpted to apply to

[somber sequoia]

oh, right, I see. confusing terms 🙂

[timid osprey]

yeahhh

somewhat unrelated. if a clothing toggle item is set to turn some aspects of an avatar invisible, say maybe hair or whatever, what do i look out for to verify its function? because it only ever actually does it in gesturemodifier's play mode, but not outside of it. like, stuff will just clip through clothing items without being hidden

the shape keys don't contain anything relevant that do so

[dense vine]

How can I make my avatar stats look dumb af like this obviously without the crasher stuff
https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/Gq5LqeQwK7aq2yo/preview

[somber sequoia]

that depends entirely on how the animation is setup

[timid osprey]

is there any way at all to see it in effect outside of play mode? maybe if i find how the animation occurs?

[dense vine]

#general-media message

There

[somber sequoia]

if you can find the animation you can preview it, sure

[timid osprey]

alright, thank you. the search continues lol

[dense vine]

How do I make my avatars bounds 6767676769420

Do I just scale an object to that scale

Like a cube

[somber sequoia]

the SDK isn't likely to let you upload it like that

[dense vine]

Damn

How many 67s before it gets mad lol

I'll just scale line 676767 and see if it gets mad

[timid osprey]

is it possible to directly apply the effects of the animation to the avatar itself? i'm mainly asking so that i can export it with the toggles on without any clipping problems

cause otherwise it sort of just ends up a bit of a mess on the ingame previews

[somber sequoia]

I don't know what you mean by that - animations do specific actions

[timid osprey]

it's like.. say some plumes of hair is hidden by a toggleable hat via an animation, but it doesn't perform that hiding function if it's toggled on outside of the game or play mode. as such, the ingame preview of the model itself showcases the clipping occuring due to the hiding not happening until you actually put the avatar on yourself. this is something that i'm trying to prevent from happening

[somber sequoia]

I'm really getting confused by what you are saying here.
An animation does a specific thing when run. It has no context of "outside of the game" or "outside play mode".

[main kiln]

(Are you talking about blendshapes 😭 )

[somber sequoia]

if by "ingame preview of the model" you mean how it looks when you view the avatar in your assets, then that shows the default avatar without the animator running, whatever that state means.

[somber sequoia]

just one of many things that can be animated, but probably in this case yes

[timid osprey]

i honestly have no idea if i am talking about blendshapes lol. i apologize for how confusing this is

[somber sequoia]

okay well you'd have to figure that out too

[timid osprey]

oh no, i'm not. the specific areas i'm referring to don't even have blendshapes associated with them

[somber sequoia]

ok then you're really going to have to go investigate and understand what is happening here

[timid osprey]

fair enough

[limpid iris]

Hey does anyone know how to make it so that the tail doesn't detach from the body???

[somber sequoia]

bring it into Blender (or similar) and join the meshes then attach mesh parts and such

really depends on what you have and want it to look like

[limpid iris]

I'm trying to just do it in unity because i don't want the model to break like last time

[somber sequoia]

How's it attached? It lags behind weirdly

[limpid iris]

yea thats why i need help attaching it in unity and i was told to do an ignore physbone but idk how to do it and can't fine any videos

[somber sequoia]

well you'd have to explain how this is setup

[somber sequoia]

no, I mean how is the tail attached?

[limpid iris]

Oh atm with physbones

[somber sequoia]

let me try again. Is the tail an original part of this model, or a thing you added-on in Unity?

[limpid iris]

added on in unity

[somber sequoia]

yes, so again, how is it attached?

[somber sequoia]

so you just dropped the model onto the hips bone?

[limpid iris]

yes

[somber sequoia]

okay, that's the answer I was trying to get

So that means the first bone of the tail isn't really "attached" to the hips, and if the pysbone component affects it, it'll "detach" as you're observing.
It's not clear from any of this if there's a proper root bone or that's just the first movable tail bone, so I'd try putting the physbone on the second bone.
If that's not right, personally I'd go attach it in Blender instead.

[limpid iris]

okie dokie tyyy

[somber sequoia]

not sure what you are showing me here

[limpid iris]

see here the physbone was sticking out

[limpid iris]

in this one its not anymore

[somber sequoia]

I don't know what part you're referring to?

[somber sequoia]

can you please explain images you share? I don't know what you want me to learn from this without some context

[limpid iris]

the japenese writing was hiding the real stuff for the tail

[somber sequoia]

yeah I'm not sure where you're going with this

[languid pine]

Does anyone know if you could make vrchat recolored avatars on anything else but unity

[somber sequoia]

you always need Unity to build and publish the avatar

[timid osprey]

i don't know what changed, but i tried it again and it worked! no more sculpting needed

[somber sequoia]

I both love and hate those - great that it worked but why

[timid osprey]

i have absolutely no idea lmfao

thank god i've gone through this ringer enough to know the immediate next steps though

oookay one new problem is that exporting the fbx to unity adds it into unity without any textures which hasn't happened to me before

ahh the wonders of technolog

[fluid sonnet]

what is it that causes avatar legs to spread open when crouching irl?

ik its bone related

but like what should i do to fix it

[somber sequoia]

yeah you most likely won't get textures, but you don't really care anyway since you'll be doing materials in unity

[timid osprey]

as fair as that is, when i attempted this before realizing that there was a sfw version, the textures transferred over just fine upon exporting the new shape key

i guess it's not always gonna be the same

[somber sequoia]

I mean, you could go cause it to happen, but I don't see the point

the actual texture files are likely already in your project, and you can't edit the materials embedded in the fbx anyway

[timid osprey]

yeah i just gotta toss em back on

[fluid sonnet]

tf

[somber sequoia]

got this in blender?

[fluid sonnet]

yeah

[somber sequoia]

ideally you'd show an image that actually shows the leg bones, if you want us to inspect the leg bones...

[fluid sonnet]

im pretty sure its something to to with the hip bone

but idk what it wants me to do about it

[somber sequoia]

can you switch that to octahedral view? It's way easier to see from here.
Also make sure bone roll is 0 for all the humanoid bones

[fluid sonnet]

so should i just set all the bones on the legs to 0?

[somber sequoia]

bone roll should be zero, yes.

that giant bone there - what's that, just a root bone?

[fluid sonnet]

yeah

im using the rig from tekken

[timid osprey]

oh i know why it didn't import correctly, it's because blender renamed everything. all is well now

[dense snow]

Im using additive layers for the first time with crap results and i cannot find tutorials

[timid osprey]

well that's odd. what could've happened here? i don't know why any paths would be missing

[somber sequoia]

look at the first 2-3 errors (red messages).

[rigid hemlock]

I think I figured it out

Is there a way to make a toggle that would release the "gesture lock" when turning avatar gestures has been turned off?

I turn off avatar gestures to get more percise hand tracking but I have to cheese it by toggling avatar gestures on and off repeatedly until it releases the locked gesture, I figured if I could make a toggle that would release all gestures that would work better than what I'm currently doing

[supple needle]

Does anyone know why my avatar does in when I import it from blender ?
I dragged the fbx into blender to edit it and when I re-exported it as an fbx from blender and replaced the file in destination it did this. This keeps happening every time I try to edit something in blender and I don't know what I'm doing wrong

[rigid hemlock]

try using the import fbx option instead of dragging and dropping it into blender

[supple needle]

I've dragged and dropped before for editing and exported and it worked fine before. It just started doing this suddenly

[somber sequoia]

you used different value for "apply scalings" in the export dialog than were previously used

[supple needle]

How do I fix it ?

[somber sequoia]

.... use the same export settings as were previously used

ideally that should be set to "FBX All" but it may not have been for your model

[supple needle]

I see, thank you

[cold perch]

How to fix this? I tried to change the lips sync to default bc the lips on the avatar wasn't moving and went to playable layers and got rid of the facetracking layers and now this keeps happening. I even looked up ways to fix it and Im still getting this

[timid osprey]

this is probably a bit of a silly noob question, but why is my scaling tool completely grey and only able to scale uniformly?

[radiant jackal]

i dont get it what can this mean

[timid osprey]

ah never mind, got it

[pliant zodiac]

can you use vrcfury to make a gun fire?

[formal sigil]

Been trying to fix this guy's shoulder for a while and man am I stuck on this. It's just the shoulder's that are creating problems for me now. I don't want to bother with UVs yet if it's a topology issue right now

[ripe tide]

uh for some reason, when i add on the FX Controller it turns the avatar into a demon spawn upon entering play mode

some assistance plz

[unkempt canopy]

how do I put my avatar back in the default T pose? its like this when I open the project

[ripe tide]

good lawd why is it doing this

whenever i enter play mode after giving it a fx layer

i did change the model a bit in blender

blender really living up to the name of blender

[formal estuary]

Im currently making an avatar (This is a work-in-progress), how do I make different colors in blender but make them use the same material slot? My avatars on Quest and Mobile have always been considered "Poor" because I use the color white, black, and then skin color and they each take up a material slot. for this avatar I want that to be prevented, as this will be A LOT better than the last one I made. (Clothes will be 3D, unlike the first, and well the model in general is completely different and is better)

[formal estuary]

Due to how I'll be making this avatar, I should be using only 2 material slots im pretty sure.

I THINK

[ripe tide]

still doing it and i cant figure out why

[ripe tide]

well okay I have to create my own FX layer thats gonna be fun unless I can figure out why its creating a demon spawn out of the prefab one

[ripe tide]

Does anyone know why its doing that?

[astral locust]

You can use Pumkin Tools and reset pose with it

[teal laurel]

Did you figure it out yet?

If no, look on the avatar descriptor fot dark avatar optimizer, and disable the use foot collider (or whatever it is called) thing, and see if that fixes it.
-# Had issues in the past with that myself on quest

[dense snow]

How do i set up an additive layer correctly?

[thin hedge]

Uhhh so yeah I don't know who all knows how to use dextros clonning system but imma leave this error here and maybe someone more experienced can tell me whats going on

[radiant tree]

What is currently the best hair shader for realistic hair on pc? Just curious

[sand cedar]

im trying to use physbones to give the chain on this weapon physics but when i enable it and test it the whole weapon acts weird. is there a way to make just the chain have physics?

[teal laurel]

Sounds like it has no animator

Add an empty one ig

[amber pivot]

i need some help with my avatar and i spent way too long trying to fix this problem but couldnt so i drew something to show what i wanna do with my avatar 😭
i hope it isnt worded badly

[real timber]

In game my bones come out like this, with my legs twisted inwards, why is that?

[balmy lantern]

You can take tracking control over the face to animations to effectively disable visemes

[limpid iris]

help..

[teal laurel]

Clear the blueprint / avatar id, and use an existing one or leave it for it to get a new one

[limpid iris]

fixedx it tyyyy

[lone birch]

Hi can someone help me pls I log in to desktop mode and all my Avis I’m uploaded n bought from all creators are not working there robots and it says somthing about test mode

Cannot use in local test mode help

[ornate stump]

You sound like you launched the game in offline mode. Did you launched the game via steam?

[lone birch]

I was online connected to WiFi

Yeah steam

[ornate stump]

Do you see EAC splashscreen when you start the game?

[lone birch]

What’s a splash screen

[lone birch]

oh

Well yeah that comes wen loading in to game

I get into world

And no avatars r working all robots

[ornate stump]

It's about problem with the game itself so you have to create a new post in #1138891887374237706 and provide detail we have discussed.

[tough marsh]

not sure where to ask this but when i share unity files for my own p2u avi do i share the project itself? im worried this doesnt protect personal info and things like that

ive never had a p2u avi before so :T

[ornate stump]

What kind of the personal info that you concerned to be included in your project?

[tough marsh]

theres no personal info included in my project at all lol - i was mainly wondering what would be correct to upload for download from the project

[ornate stump]

Packaging would only be your avatar prefab file or scene file along with any dependencies. Publishing entire project is excessive.

[tough marsh]

so i'd be fine to just upload this?

[ornate stump]

No. You should make prefab from your avatar object from the scene.

[tough marsh]

okays! ill try find a video to help me with that, thank you

[tough marsh]

which one do i click? or is this not how i make a prefab

[ornate stump]

Just drag the object from the hierarchy panel into project panel below.

[tough marsh]

is this literally it?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[tough marsh]

thanks!!

[rough moat]

does anybody know what i do if my vrc sdk in unity doesnt work? cus im trying to reload it and reinstalling, but nothing helps

[ornate stump]

There are tons of reason why it doesn't work, so you have to actually observe the error, message, or what it's doing and provide more detail than just saying it doesn't work.

[rough moat]

it says nothing the sdk is just being really slow and its not letting me upload anything

[ornate stump]

What part or where it's being slow also matter. So better screenshot what it does or stuck at.

[rough moat]

like the whole sdk itself even the login

[main kiln]

-# So I found out what caused the Python error

[ornate stump]

Better screenshot where and how it's stuck at. Take the entire unity screen.

[lone birch]

What if I just like re install it

[rough moat]

here is how its just stuck on the upload, I dont have much to show besides that

[lone birch]

Will that help

[rough moat]

did that already

[lone birch]

Nooo I was talking to other person

About my problem lol

[rough moat]

oh mb

[ornate stump]

You should show the entire unity screen.

[ornate stump]

The avatar shown in sdk doesn't exist in the scene.

[ornate stump]

If you close the sdk panel and open back, does it allow you to type in new info? Also note the object selection dropdown menu in the sdk, it should match with your object name in the scene.

[rough moat]

mhh no, i see my mistake . my project was a world type ;-;

[rough moat]

TY anyways xD. Well i have to re-do everything

[tacit lantern]

My real problem is the animations.

[stuck fiber]

The VR Chat model I am working with has a texture swap toggle and I want to switch the tail out. Is there a way I can remove the bones and vertex groups from the old tail and add the new tail package into unity? I want to use the new tails adjustments in the menu but I also want it to be able to swap textures. Any help would be appreciated (please ping reply or dm me)

[ornate stump]

Go into Configure and fix whatever issue is in there.

[tacit lantern]

Okay, and where exactly is it?

[ornate stump]

Your model also is missing leg bones which entirely a different issue.

[tacit lantern]

ah And how do I correct it?

[ornate stump]

Edit model in blender to add leg bones.

[tacit lantern]

Ok

https://youtu.be/eZa6j8HyBN0?is=o-mvB5C0WhYuf9bl

Thx

[limpid iris]

Her tail keeps shrinking in playmode

[tacit lantern]

Gg

[abstract isle]

maybe a stupid question im quite new to this. But does anybody know why my avatar looks fine on desktop and in unity, but appears to be very thin in vr? Like arms, fingers and everything else is much thinner

[naive sentinel]

question: I messed something up while adjusting the avatar's scale and viewpoint
now in Unity the avatar is floating slightly above ground. In-game it's ok, but in-game the viiewpoin is also shifted higher than it should be

[somber sequoia]

Look at the root object's Transform component, make sure the location is 0,0,0

[naive sentinel]

it is all at 0

[hot breach]

does this look like too many tris? this is a very rough wip so i'd like to know if i need to adjust anything

ooh wait

[main kiln]

Well theres a way to check the actual number statistics to get a more accurate count 😅

Oh there you go LOL

[hot breach]

im no expert but that seems like wayyyy too much for an unfinished avatar base 😭

[main kiln]

Listen theres been worse

Idk what the best limit is in terms of vrc use, but theres been models over 200k before

Thats like NOTHING tbh (imo)

Though it is possible (if you feel its too many) you can edit/dissolve edges to lower the triangles down but wait until maybe you finish and see where you end up first 😅

Though someone else might say otherwise, not sure

[hot breach]

wait true

[balmy barn]

make it exsist first, optimize after, its abit high , face and hair tend to be alot

[hot breach]

oh god the face

[main kiln]

Thats true, it depends how you make them

[hot breach]

making the face is going to be horrifying 😭

[main kiln]

Its usually the harder part, depending on the style youre going for, but I believe in you 💪

[balmy barn]

easymode , go bald

[hot breach]

thank you :DD

[main kiln]

One of my avi blendshapes makes him have a major bald spot so he can fit his hat on lol its so weird to look at

[hot breach]

lmao

i dont get the privilige of giving the avatar a hat because its just hair and horns on his head 😭

[main kiln]

Fair

[glacial vale]

Guys I loooove ripping avatars and spreading false information on the internet

[cyan kettle]

hey what's causing the muscle preview to blow up in scale like this? it's messing up my default finger animations :o

[mild crescent]

Currently trying to do toggle but it isn't really working. I have the animations done for it properly. Its just that it isn't doing anything at all

[pine valley]

does resetting the pose fix the issue? (there's a dropdown at the bottom)

[pine valley]

you should test it in Unity!

that'll be easier than checking in-game

(use the Gesture Manager tool for this)

[mild crescent]

okay did that.

Still trying to figure out whats wrong with the toggle animations not working.

[somber osprey]

when I export the FBX to the fbx file that unity is currently using, it updates the FBX but the models inside it's prefab hierarchy gets deleted, like headgears or accessories

how do I prevent that from happening?

[pine valley]

first, make sure that these parameter names match exactly:

• the name in the VRCExpressionParameters asset
• the name in the menu control
• the name in the animator's parameter list

[pine valley]

what does "inside its prefab hierarchy" mean here?

[mild crescent]

Understood, will check and make the names match exactly.

[somber osprey]

as in like inside of the root of the avatar in the hierachy list. does that help?

[pine valley]

show me the hierarchy for the avatar; leave everything except the root object folded up

[pine valley]

the Gesture Manager has three tabs, and the third one is "Debug". You can click that to view a list of all parameters on your avatar

if you can make the animation play by messing with one of those params, then you have a mismatch somewhere

[mild crescent]

okeyy

[somber sequoia]

End End End End

[pine valley]

any object that does not have a + icon is part of the prefab itself

hit the little > button to inspect this prefab, and show me that hierarchy

[somber osprey]

yeah idk why its there

[pine valley]

it's possible that some objects come from the original FBX

(and thus disappear if your new FBX lacks them)

[pine valley]

everything above the "PB" object is from the model prefab

if those are disappearing on you, then your new FBX must not have them

[somber osprey]

but these 3 one
the "heart" and "Heroheadphones" disappeared when I overwrite the FBX

but these 2 aren't part of the original FBX, they're their own seperate FBX files, so idk why me updating the FBX deleted those 2 even tho they're not part of it

[pine valley]

make sure the new FBX has the armature (and all of the same bone names)

[somber osprey]

could it be the factor that the one in blender has 2 identical armature or duplicates that broke it?

[little sun]

seems eye tracking isnt working for anyone

[remote acorn]

anyone know how to fix this?

[amber pivot]

i made a better picture of what i want from my avatar if this helps cause im bad at wording

[somber sequoia]

this happens when you click "build and test" for an android version - that requires a connected android device or active emulator running.
You probably mean to just do "build and publish" or just play-test in play mode in the editor.

[remote acorn]

oh ok thx

[crimson gust]

Anyone well versed in VRC Fury that can explain why this game object:

Decides to place itself here, instead of the index finger?

[livid river]

I have an avatar I want to have a toggle for equipping a weapon, but I also want to put in a separate customization menu so that it's possible to swap which axe is being equipped using a menu like this.

[ripe tide]

Anyone able to give some advice on this please?

When I use the prefab fx controller that came with the model it breaks it

[mild crescent]

Why is there a couple of toggles in vrchat that dont work but in unity through gesture manager those toggles that didnt work ingame started to work.

[somber sequoia]

it's fine when not in play mode?

[ripe tide]

Yeah

[somber sequoia]

bad animation then

[ripe tide]

Hm but it's from the model's prefab and it works fine on the original

I did modify it a lil bit in blender

[somber sequoia]

doesn't change the facts

[ripe tide]

If I put in a new fx controller it's completely fine as well

[somber sequoia]

so it's an animation in that controller

investigate those

[ripe tide]

Uhhh I'll try cause there's like 3000 parameters and blend shapes

[somber sequoia]

you could disable all the layers in that controller, then enable each one by one and see which one causes the problem

[ripe tide]

I suppose

[somber sequoia]

I've done it a few times, works well

[ripe tide]

Sooo what do I do with the bad animations?

[ripe tide]

?

[somber sequoia]

what?

[ripe tide]

What do I do with the bad animations?

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what is happening in your project or what the animations do, I've got no advice

[ripe tide]

they appear to be amplifing themselves by a thousand

[somber sequoia]

did you recent re-export your avatar from Blender and not set "apply scalings" to the same setting that was previously used? That could cause scale issues. I'd suggest setting that to "FBX All" unless you know for sure it should be otherwise

[ripe tide]

uhhh dont know what that is so probably not

[somber sequoia]

okay that's likely the issue then

(it's a setting in Blender's export dialog, if that wasn't obvious)

[late heath]

is there a way to make certain elements show through other parts of the model with poiyomi toon, while using as little extra skinned meshes/materials as possible? (like eyes/eyebrows showing through the hair) there is something im thinking of trying in the future but i don't know what's the best way of going about it

[ripe tide]

that seems to have completely fixed it Thank you

also oh gawd

blender quit being a blender

[radiant jasper]

this is something that always happends to me and idk how to fix it
basically when i join all the parts of a model into 1 mesh some of those parts turns black for some reason
here is a example of what i mean, is there a way to fix this?

[limpid iris]

How do i remove physbones off the back of her hair???

[late heath]

your model may - for whatever reason - be losing any separate materials it has, and might only be using one in the output
if you're using some kind of unity addon to merge it all into one mesh, you might want to do it in blender instead and make sure all the materials are saved, and if they are not then assign the materials that need to be assigned

[late heath]

that might be the root bone so the hair only uses a single physbone component
either go into blender, delete that bone and reimport, or change your physbone multi-child type to 'ignore'

probably dont delete it though unless you know it won't damage anything

[valid marsh]

is there any way i can use roughness maps on quest?

like, the roughness maps used in the Autodesk Interactive shader?

[steady tiger]

Hey! Trying to figure out something, if it’s even possible. I’m trying to fit an outfit to a model that was not its intended model. Trying to move the leg bands here. Any suggestions how? L and P don’t seem to do anything.

[radiant jasper]

other example just in case

[twin raft]

you can use stencils in poiyomi

i dont know the exact science but i know thats the module you'd wanna use for that

[late heath]

thank you, i'll look into it when the time comes

[late heath]

oh it does look like they all use the same material... my mistake... that's really weird and i've never had that happen to me before

[twin raft]

looks like a uv mapping issue?

how many uv maps do your meshes have?

[radiant jasper]

one

[twin raft]

all of them?

do they all have the same name?

[teal laurel]

You can move it via the GUI as well, not just via keybinds

[radiant jasper]

yup

[steady tiger]

How?

I’m brand new to Blender and kind of learning on the fly

[twin raft]

how are the materials setup in blender? is there any tricks being done in the shader, or is it just basic pbr?

[teal laurel]

In edit mode, you can use the move tool

https://youtu.be/7ZbilpdL63I
Random blender video i have in my clipboard

[steady tiger]

Lifesaver 🙏

[spare orbit]

Can someone help me fix this? Idk how to fix it myself

[radiant jasper]

the material is just one, all the texture is just one image
and no, i dont use any tricks or shaders or pbr in there

[teal laurel]

You can apply the write default fix by vrcfury, or manually fix write defaults being off for your layers and animation clips/states i think they are called in your animator

From what i understood, write defaults work like this
WD off:
If you use an animation to show a part of the avatar, and now exit the animation again, it stays enabled.
You'd need a seperate animation to turn stuff off again.
WD on (recommended):
If you use an animation to enable something, and exit it, it will turn off again.

[spare orbit]

Ohhhh alright thanks you!

[twin raft]

open the materials dropdown in unity, how many slots are showing?
and which shader are you using, have you set up the material within unity already?

[valid marsh]

why are my model and particles showing an error shader when in play mode? is this normal?

its never happened to me before

ohhh wait i think its because im doing it with it set to Android and they use PC only shaders, im gonna switch over and see if it fixes it

[radiant jasper]

i cant find it
where is the materials dropdown thing?
and im using the deafult vrchat shader

[night ember]

that wasnt what the warning was saying

[teal laurel]

Well it would still be fixed if wd was forced on via vrcf right?

[night ember]

its not about on or off

[teal laurel]

confused

[night ember]

its the fact there are animations states with no animations

[teal laurel]

Ok

I do that a lot for transitions and seperate transition paths

Don't see an issue with that tbh

[night ember]

there isnt one

it just annoyingly warns you for a non issue

[teal laurel]

Oh

Lol

[night ember]

well

its a separate issue if you dont animate off your write default stuff

[teal laurel]

i never animate stuff off

[night ember]

its mostly either or

[teal laurel]

Either wd off and on off animation
Wd on and on animation?

[night ember]

its entirely either or on preference

albeit there are certain things wd off does better

[teal laurel]

gonna guess when you later wanna toggle stuff off and not right away?

[night ember]

sequenced stuff

[teal laurel]

Gottcha

Reminds me of GRAFCET a bit

[night ember]

to put simply

if you used write defaults and wanted to use a singular layer for a 52 card deck shuffling
thatd be 80,658,175,170,943,878,571,660,636,856,403,766,975,289,505,440,883,277,824,000,000,000,000 animations in that singular layer

compared to having write defaults off going down animating each of the 52 cards one at a time
being only 2704 animations

[obtuse trail]

why so many though?

[night ember]

write defaults on means as soon as its not longer being animated it resets
doing it in one layer would require an animation for every possible combination of the 52 cards

which is a very big number

[twin raft]

right under where it says root bone

on your skinned mesh component

[carmine flint]

I'm working on optimizing an avatar for Quest. Would the tail physbones still be synced between platforms if the number of bones in the tail is different for each? (19 on PC and 9 for Quest)

[ornate stump]

It won't. Player between platform will see different tail bone being grabbed.

[teal laurel]

"Only" 2k 💀💀💀
But ye, makes sense. Thanks for explaining 🖤

I am glad if i can stuff my animations into a blendtree

Will have to learn some conditions as well, so i can convert some of my layers

[night ember]

well I mean thats the minimum for 52 faces on 52 cards

[carmine flint]

I thought it might not sync at all. When you say a different bone, does that mean they'll still see it getting grabbed at all? Like if it's grabbed and posed would it end up in a similar position?

[ornate stump]

Difference would be varied depends on different between bone structure. For example if you pose the 9th bone from quest which is at the end, PC player will see 9th bone which is the middle being posed. And if PC posed 10-19th bone, Quest won't see any bone being posed.

[teal laurel]

@night ember How much optimiation will be done if i start to switch some layers to a blend tree?
-# I don't need a number, just if the performance inpact is big enough to notice (not fps)

[night ember]

🤷‍♂️

no idea

[carmine flint]

I see! Thank you very much!!

[teal laurel]

I swear i saw some docs mention it is enough to consider doing it, but i forgot where i saw that. Mayve vrcschools? idk

i know they have a nice tutorial on how to do conditions and math :)
https://vrc.school/docs/Other/Advanced-BlendTrees/

bruh i hate that we cannot use hyperlinks

reeee mods >:(

Due to the high performance impact of Animator Layers in an Animator Controller, it is often a lot better to combine things such as toggles and radial menus into a single Animator Layer by using a Direct Blend Tree.
https://vrc.school/docs/Other/Advanced-BlendTrees/

[proper depot]

I used hai combogestures to add gestures to my avatar, but I have contacts and when these contacts are activated, the default gesture ( blinking ) still plays when i do the contact and it looks wrong 😭 ? Anyone know how to fix this?

[balmy barn]

id add gestureleft/right equal x - dont allow it to trigger (transition on contact) , it will stack when contact also trying to add a shapekey

can also make it so contact work when gesture in use- but dont use a shapekey

1 gestureleft/right = in use > do everything but shapekey | 2 no gestureleft/right detected = allow use of shapekey there is a reason i tend to use images, bunch of text confusing

[vale spindle]

I keep getting these errors when opening the Builder to upload the avatar, any fix?

[dreamy adder]

Hi im currently having an issue with avatars, I have update while off screen on but it still disappears? even when you get to close. I have no idea what the issue is.

[ornate stump]

Do you mean object disappeared when being around screen edge?

[dreamy adder]

no like the whole avatar in general

[ornate stump]

You see it disappear at center of screen or on the edge?

[frosty junco]

does anyone have a link to the offical Alcom website?

I want to be sure im getting the official version

[dreamy adder]

when ever someone gets close or far away and angles

like all angles

mostly from the sides

[ornate stump]

Still sounds like mesh bounding box, you have to check skinned mesh renderer component in your avatar.

[dreamy adder]

okay ill check it out

[ornate stump]

To clairify this. Is it other people seeing your avatar disappears, or you're seeing everyone else disappears?

[dreamy adder]

other people seeing my avatars

and i see it to when they wear it

[ornate stump]

So, it's mesh bounding box.

[dreamy adder]

i just ahve to make it bigger?

[ornate stump]

Yes. Cover whereever the model part could reach.

[ornate stump]

Do you mean object disappeared when being around screen edge?
To rectify this, the avatar is made of single object so it has only one bounding box, so it's just going to disappear out all at once.

[dreamy adder]

whenever i try to edit it, it doesnt change at all but the model seems to already be in the box

[ornate stump]

How did you edit?

[balmy barn]

that bounding box look fine

if you adding other things to it in unity those will have funny boxes

[ornate stump]

Bounding box should extend a bit beyond the actual model. If you lift the arm forward it's just going to be out of bound.

[dreamy adder]

By changing the center and extent numbers in the skinned mesh renderer i also tried by clicking edit bounds

[dreamy adder]

that makes so much sense

thaats def why

[ornate stump]

Do the numbers stay to what you change them to?

[dreamy adder]

yes

but the box doesnt change

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot the entire unity screen instead?

[ornate stump]

When you click Edit Bounds, do you move the bounds showing in the scene?

[dreamy adder]

i try to but i cant grab the bounds

[balmy barn]

go into playmode, look at bonding box - now force T pose, surprise bounding box change

[ornate stump]

What if you type in extent X 1 ?

[dreamy adder]

Uhm so In playmode it disables update when offscreen

could that be the issue

[balmy barn]

that is forced off in vrchat

[dreamy adder]

this it when in t pose

[balmy barn]

oh you have one of those with scaling 100

no sure if that matter , havnt uploaded one of those in awhile

[ornate stump]

Update off screen only relevant to animation, not object being displayed on screen.

[dreamy adder]

Ohhh okay

[dreamy adder]

I'll try that out

[dreamy adder]

nothing

[ornate stump]

Try restart unity once.

[dreamy adder]

ok

[dreamy adder]

i restarted it but nothing changed

oh wait i just turned off update when offscreen and now the box is huge

i can edit it now

[ornate stump]

Ok proceed.

[dreamy adder]

i have made it much bigger do i upload it now

[rose reef]

how can i use the vrchat circle menu in unity im so confused

[dreamy adder]

the avatars still dissapear

this time its only when u get close

[ornate stump]

How the bound is look like now?

[dreamy adder]

It's alot more bigger then the whole model

Nothing going out of the bounds

[ornate stump]

Should take screenshot instead. Also is the Root Bone the avatar hip bone?

[dreamy adder]

Ok gimme a few and no the root bone isn't the hip. Does it need to be?

[ornate stump]

It better is. Because it's the actual root of humanoid skeleton bones.

[ornate stump]

If you move hip bone and see bounds stay in place, that's the problem.

[dreamy adder]

I'll check it out for sure

[rose reef]

please

[ornate stump]

Install Gesture Manager package for testing.

[rose reef]

i have it i just wanna know how to use it

[ornate stump]

Enable it via the Tools menu first.

[rose reef]

ok i did

[ornate stump]

Then start Play Mode.

[rose reef]

how do i do that

[ornate stump]

The big Play button at the top of unity screen.

[rose reef]

oh ok

[rose reef]

thank you

[stray gorge]

is poiyomi safe to use again?

[timber wharf]

@stray gorge always was

at least github free aka toon version, no idea how pro is done

[stray gorge]

they got hacked a little ago, but yeah its safe now

[timber wharf]

its a person's accounts what got hacked, but shader itself wasnt ever updated during that time

like, they could've uploaded smth malicious but never got to it. And it is tracked when there are changes. So no, shaders themselves never got anything in em

[raven jacinth]

someone

[pine valley]

AAPs cannot be copied by Parameter Drivers, if that's what you're doing

otherwise, you'll need to provide more information

[raven jacinth]

no, i look at it in the avatar debug menu and they don't change at all

and its in the fx layer

idk what im doing wrong

[pine valley]

They won’t show up there

[raven jacinth]

hm

what about using them for conditions in a transition?

would that work?

[pine valley]

Yes, that works

[raven jacinth]

hm

K

can integer parameters be changes by AAPs?

[somber sequoia]

AAP?

[raven jacinth]

animated animator parameter

[somber sequoia]

ahh

[trim prism]

anyoen got any tips for optimising booth models? i know about D4rks avatar optimiser and AAO but what other tools are usefull?

im tryna get it to atleast poor rated, just wndering if theres other things im missing

[trim prism]

oh to clarify i got 1 outfit on the model, i keep them all on seperate versions

[timber wharf]

@trim prism wed need to see current stats ie #avatar-help message

cause if its 200k polys with one outfit aint nothing saves it other than remake

[supple marsh]

Honestly, this whole guide has been my lifeline for optimizing booth models, goes over a lot
https://hackmd.io/@kurikotw/AvatarOptimize_ENG#VRChat-Avatar-Ultimate-Optimize-Notes-Modular-Avatar-Supported

Helped me get my Kipfel and Mamehinata edits down from very poor to medium

[vagrant crater]

exporting a model to a fbx like this but when i export it i get this

the models full offset from the origin point and is T-posing which i dont know how its forcing it into a T pose

[sick star]

anyone know how to make it to where you can grab physbones in playmode in game mode? i could before but i cant anymore for whatever reason

[somber sequoia]

It should work by default in the Game view - make sure you aren't trying to do it in the Scene view

[sick star]

yea im in game view, its confusing because it lets me interact with colliders still but i cant grab physbones

[grand scaffold]

Just to confirm, on your physbones themselves, have you set them so they can be grabbed?

[sick star]

yea

[trim prism]

yea this is it currently while using AAO, also removed accessories like garters and pericings.

could i decimate the outfit in blendere maybe? idk how else i can remove poly count lol

[trim prism]

ill look at this!!! seems very usefull

[somber sequoia]

you can certainly remodel the model in blender

[supple marsh]

Aside from the guide I sent, I'd recommend toning down the texture memory (thry's vram calculator is very useful for seeing what is eating up so much texture memory)

For future reference I'd also look at the number of triangles and other performance stats on assets so you know what exactly you're dealing with, if they don't have displayed uhhhh good luck lol

[trim prism]

good to know!!

[trim prism]

idk much about about modelling but i can deff try that if i cant get it down >W<

[supple marsh]

If you want a quick, slightly dirty and non-destructive way to decimate it in unity there's always meshia mesh simplification but it's not always reliable

Again, just read through the guide since it shows stuff like how to remove mesh via blendshapes if you wanna get the triangle count down

[balmy barn]

easiest one to fix + vram << this one is important, not many have 16gb+ vram , triangles can be abit of a slog , 70k tris still after so many years

[twin mountain]

What can I use to make textures?

[somber sequoia]

any image editing program

[grand scaffold]

Photoshop, substance painter, substance designer, gimp are some of the main ones

[vagrant crater]

Help

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure what you want vs. what you got

[vagrant crater]

wdym

i explained whats going on

[somber sequoia]

In blender make sure the avatar is standing on the origin, and all transforms are applied

other than that I guess I didn't understand what you're explaining.

[vagrant crater]

but its not standing on the origin

[somber sequoia]

Yes, go make it stand on the origin.

[vagrant crater]

thats the origin after its exported

[timber wharf]

@trim prism yep getting down to under 70k would be the most challenging, theres some chance that still some unimportant accessories have way to many polys but needs a proper blender inspection. the rest should be easy

[timber wharf]

is it tho, vram i mean? theres streamed texture mips load and culling, its way better for 8gb nowadays than in 2022

[balmy barn]

go to a room with 30-40 people, bye vram, usually around 12gb for me

[timber wharf]

well it prob doesnt even fallback to offloading, i had 8gb up to 2025 and it was perfectly usable at the end

[plain lava]

is there a quest compatiable shader thats like the legacy multiply double shader?

[timber wharf]

uh, double, what? theres a normal multiply shader in vrc mobile particles

[trim prism]

truee, rn i just have the jumper. bottom, hair, body and face

[plain lava]

In the legacy shaders there is different particle shaders and one of them is called multiply double and it makes the lenses still dark while being able to see through them

If that makes any sense

[timber wharf]

not really. google says it just premultiples (base+detail)x2 textures. so multiply is still perfectly usable

you just need to make it lighter

[plain lava]

Ohh I see

[gray badger]

do the shaders for quest avatars have any way to animate hue? They don't have an animate right click for making a slider in vrcFury

[somber sequoia]

You can animate pretty much all shader parameters.

[frozen sparrow]

Can someone please help me figure out whats wrong my weight painting? Ive been fighting with it for hours.
The front part of the strap functions correct, but the back is all mess up

[twin mountain]

I need help having my weapons work on my avatar

[night ember]

thats pretty vague

[night ember]

you can have only a max of 4 bones weighted per vertex
that or the top part of it isnt actually weighted to whatever

[cosmic sequoia]

does anyone know a tutorial i could look at to basically have a bell on my avi make sounds when i move?

[somber sequoia]

Make sure you turn on auto-normalization and normalize the weights, otherwise you can't quite trust the color

[somber sequoia]

I don't know of a tutorial but you can use a physbone for the bell, they have a parameter that can be set with the angle of the physbone, use that in the animator to trigger a sound if the angle goes past some threshold

[vapid slate]

anyone know how to fix this

nvm i got it

[somber osprey]

why is the raw normal texture (on the left) looks completely different in unity when it sees it as a Normal map instead of default?

particually the bottom one is green

[vapid slate]

istg ima beat upp the unity creators >:[

[somber sequoia]

left image might be using a different mode for the colors

(i.e. RGB instead of indexed color)

[lethal kiln]

hey yall im experiencing an issue with the sdk every time i try and upload my avi to quest it shows this error and wont show me the performance rating

[somber sequoia]

is that the only error?

[lethal kiln]

yes

[somber sequoia]

how annoying.

[lethal kiln]

very

[somber osprey]

how do I know what mode the unity is using. oir can I tell unity to export that image that it's seeing as?

[glossy isle]

hey, anyone here work with the new cryptia fnia models?

having an issue with Type 0 and her hat

[brittle yew]

Could someone whoever can upload dm me to upload fnia model files i have to my account cause I can't upload and I have no pc-

[heavy zephyr]

Don't ask here, you'll get scammers.

[brittle yew]

Ok

[glossy isle]

i mean, i have all 5 girls that are out. currently working on fixing goldie

her hat toggle seems broken

[brittle yew]

So you know how to upload?

[glossy isle]

yeah. but not too sure i should as idk if you own the files and i dont want to be a leaker

[brittle yew]

They aren't leaked ones

Its the main girls

[glossy isle]

no im saying i have the updated files. idk if you own them

[brittle yew]

I do

[glossy isle]

like idk if you paid for them

[brittle yew]

I did

But I don't want to talk to cryptic:<

[glossy isle]

i mean, as i said im fixing goldie's hat toggle so once that's fixed and i upload it for someone else, i could do it

[heavy zephyr]

I will never understand people buying models they can't upload.

[brittle yew]

Ok :3

Just dm when your done ok?

I have the files all in a Google doc :3

[glossy isle]

seriously though, someone help me. the hat toggle is broken. instead of turning off that hat it turns it purple

and i have no idea how to fix it

[brittle yew]

So dm me when your ready

[heavy zephyr]

Cause that sounds very legitimate

[balmy barn]

free account? cool

[glossy isle]

i mean if he got the old files from gumroad before she shut down her gumroad page, then it would be on google drive as gumroad buyers got a drive link and all files get updated when the ones on itch.io get updated

[somber sequoia]

It looks fine in Unity, and you already have it set properly.

[slow briar]

So if i, hypothetically, set the emission color to a grey in a toon standard material, would it make the og colors show more?

[somber sequoia]

white I'd think would be ideal for that

[glossy isle]

here's a picture of the issue

it's supposed to be invisible/off. not pink

[somber osprey]

well yeah but I wanna use that Normal map that I got from the avatar in other engine like Blender, but because the bottom is green instead of the usual light blue, it breaks it

I wanna know how is Unity able to go around that

[south kraken]

is there a script/tool that converts unity constraints to VRC constraints non destructively (and fixes the animations) at upload?
Ive noticed that when using the permanent conversion in unity the animation references are breaking and id like to avoid remaking them. (its not a simple setup im working with)

I really want this prefab I have to work on quest

[somber sequoia]

in Blender you set the image type to indexed color, I'm not sure what the issue is

er, non-color

[south kraken]

I have just been informed about MA convert constraints

[trim trellis]

Could someone help me? I added clothing that says is rigged for my avatar body under my avatar and it just spawns and is floating there. It doesn't attach to my avatar, I added a vrcfury armature link and the armature is on the hips like it should be and also the root bone is on the hips

[pine valley]

what does "the armature is on the hips" mean?

[trim trellis]

like it says armature and then it says the armature is hips

[somber sequoia]

can you show that? I'm not following either

[somber sequoia]

seems sensible at a glance

[trim trellis]

so everything seems normal?

The clothing says it is rigged for my body so I didin't understand why it is not attaching to the avatar or conforming around the body

[somber sequoia]

eh, hard to tell from just these images what it's supposed to do

[crisp trail]

i have a question. is there a way to do partial transparency im trying to do something for the eyes of an avatar im working on

specifically for the eyes here

[somber sequoia]

Sure, use the alpha channel on your material. That is, unless you mean quest, then you don't get that.

[crisp trail]

For pc.

so in texture paint o just decrease the alpha value on the texture in sections i want more transparent?

[somber sequoia]

Sure, that's one way. Make sure your material uses a shader that does alpha transparency

[crisp trail]

Poiomi is what i use

[somber sequoia]

Then at the top, pick a rendering preset that does transparency, like cutout or transparent or trans clipping

huh, today I learned that thing has a name

[trim trellis]

this shit is so confusing

[foggy wadi]

Just move it to line up the body?

[trim trellis]

but then there is gaps between the body and the clothing?

[foggy wadi]

I mean, theres a pretty big gap rn...

[trim trellis]

well yeah because it isn't aligned but even when alligned to the best of my abilitey there is stil about a inch or two between the body and clothing

abilities*