avatar-help

[upbeat imp]

I guess I should just use a different shader?

[lilac musk]

maybe

[edgy holly]

Ok, we're getting somewhere.....

[lilac musk]

This is the slot you want to add it to

[edgy holly]

ayyyyyy!!!!!!!

A lot to do yet but that's one big hurdle out of the way

[lilac musk]

Keep it up!

[waxen jungle]

id reccomend switching the shaders to toon lit or toon standard at the very least for an easy quest upload

[devout mason]

does anyone know if with physbones you can create a spring like effect, like if you have a spring tail or something could you make it so it squishes inward

idk how else to explain it 😭

[waxen jungle]

Messing with the pull and spring sliders inside of the physbone settings should get you most of the way there

you can also test physbones if you position the camera in play mode

you can just click to grab them

[devout mason]

icic.. ill see if i can get it to work when i make my friend's avatar

im thinking i should limit the like, cone or whatever it is maybe but i dont know if thatll work

im also thinking i might have to angle the bones for the tail in a weird way so the effect i want can work

oh actually theres stretch and squish settings but i think thats only for when youre grabbing it

[valid marsh]

How can i fix the tail crunching up like this?

settings

[oak bone]

Looks like a weight painting issue?

[sullen gust]

Hey, my friend is struggling with a nova beast- the goggles are all fucked, stretched out n stuff-

Eyes also stay white

He tried deleting them, hiding them etc, they just won’t go away

Anything helps

[wanton cedar]

Might be a weight painting issue??

[sullen gust]

How would he go on about fixing that? I’m still pretty new to unity myself

[wanton cedar]

Check in blender

Were the goggles an asset, or did they come with the model?

[sullen gust]

Ohhhhh, I have 0 clue how to use blender and nor does he ;w; aghhh, any YouTube video you would have handy? And I believe they came with the model, it was just in the unity package

They are able to toggle tho, however toggle won’t work as well

[wanton cedar]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Zf8uuh0PNO4

[sullen gust]

Thank you so so so much

[wanton cedar]

You're welcome

You'd be looking for the goggles to be painted to the head

[lone maple]

does anyone know how to make this particle go over every mesh infront of it? (to make a camera facing face censor effect)

[heavy zephyr]

For an effect like this you might want to use a cube and not a plane. Otherwise you'll have to play with render queues or stencils.

[lone maple]

ahh since i want it to look like a flat plane instead of a cube

[heavy zephyr]

You're working in a 3D game, cube makes more sense, if you want a plane, don't make it face the camera. If you still want a plane facing the camera regardless, learn how stencils work or mess with render queues (wouldn't recommend that last option)

[lone maple]

ahh alright, ty though!!

[heavy zephyr]

I guess you could also offset its position from it's center and have the center in the middle of the head (inside it). Would be jank but could work

[main turtle]

can someone help me make a dustin avatar

[ornate stump]

How much help do you need?

[main turtle]

like alot cuz im new to this

[ornate stump]

You might have to read this first. And you can ask some specific questions.

https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1139228456090087495

[orchid blade]

Im at a loss i cant figure out how to attach a dress to an avatar but also keep all of the bones on it... someone help please

either i get everything weightpainted correctly but no bones or i get nothing attached but working bones..

[valid juniper]

im trying to move a 2.0 avatar to 3.0 this is so hard

[ornate stump]

Did you do it in blender or in unity?

[potent copper]

What exactly do you need now?

[potent copper]

Are you new to the server?

[main turtle]

Yup

[potent copper]

Oh I see

The avatar you're requesting for is it for vrchat or Roblox

[lilac musk]

sus

[fresh jacinth]

Definitely a scammer

[potent copper]

Who's that

[wary wedge]

Im trying to upload smth but i don’t know how to remove or fix this

[ornate stump]

You have to create new material and replace it in the material slot.

[wary wedge]

I can’t click on it though

Too replace it

[ornate stump]

Emphasize on "create new material".

[wary wedge]

I did

[ornate stump]

Did you put it into the material slot in the renderer?

[ornate stump]

What you're trying to click here is texture. You have to understand the different between material and texture.

[trim edge]

Yoo-Hoo! So I just purchased an avatar, and it says i need to get my license key and add it to a licenser, i have never done this before for an avatar ive purchased so im a wee bit lost here. I added all the addons it required like Poi, sps, vrcfury, Jerry's Ft. But when i go to "open me" to open the avatar it doesnt do anything so im not sure where i would put a license key in at. here are some photos of the assets thingy and what the "gonso license" has inside its folder

[round comet]

Hi! The licenser is in the top toolbar

[trim edge]

🤦‍♀️ thank you, i feel dumb

[round comet]

No worries

It’s definitely hard to navigate sometimes

[trim edge]

haha a bit

[lucid ice]

Is there a way to prevent my avatar's view position from resetting when I upload? It's several inches away from my face when I need it to be between my eyes.

it looks fine in unity but it just moves back to where it used to be when I upload my avatar, and only reverts for the uploaded version.

[somber sequoia]

that shouldn't happen, it should stay where you put it. Do you have another camera on the avatar maybe?

[azure widget]

I dunno if I can ask avi questions here that involve blender, if not I can remove this. but I was wondering if anyone has tips on how to improve topology around the knees?

[junior void]

I usually follow the knee cap shape in the front and keep it looping in the back

[somber sequoia]

yes, and there's also #3d-modeling

[azure widget]

Ooh gotcha!

[ornate stump]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DAFS8sga2k

[wind parrot]

does anyone know how to fix the polygon overflow thing? it says my avatar has 2 billion-ish faces when it's much lower than that

[somber sequoia]

there's a "autofix" about mesh read/write above this. Click it.

[wind parrot]

there's no auto fix that i can see. all the meshes are set to read/write tho

[dark plaza]

hello does anyone know how to export a model from roblox to vrchat?

[somber sequoia]

one of them isn't if that message is present.

[dark plaza]

cant seem to find any tutorials

[somber sequoia]

Literally discussed this morning - scroll up a bit here. I haven't done it but the suggestion was basically output a .obj, import into blender, fix/etc. and do the usual things from there.

[dark plaza]

can you ping it please?

sorry ;_;

[somber sequoia]

no

[dark plaza]

oke

[lucid ice]

I have a few cameras from the IkeHud asset I added, would that break anything? It just puts an overlay over my vision so i can see the tris in the world and stuff like that

[somber sequoia]

You shouldn't need a camera for that, that's just a shader.
But if those are disabled by default, I wouldn't think that would do it. I've heard having an active camera can confuse the viewpoint, but haven't actually tried this myself.

[lucid ice]

hmm

i'll test an upload without the hud, since i'm pretty sure that deleting those cameras would break the hud

[somber sequoia]

likely.

[lucid ice]

alright that fixed it, it's still floating off but it's like good enough

thank you

[valid marsh]

Butt physbones do not work at all, the bones stay completely stiff

Same occurs with the ears

[balmy barn]

add endpoint if its only 1 bone

[plush hull]

how do i fix this again pls

[valid marsh]

Not informed on how to do that yet

[balmy barn]

usually y

if you have a radius and nothing shows up, it will when it has more then 1 'bone'

r

[somber sequoia]

add a VRC Avatar Descriptor to the root of your avatar.

[spark walrus]

Helloo, this might be long so sorry lol.
First time editing an avatar.
Its a deira neo base for a alien avatar. I painstakingly modified it to have 4 arms.

Both bottom arms are technically a clone of the (from the perspective in the image) left arm. I'm assuming this is where my problem is coming from.

I have fixed all the bones as well as the weight paints, everything can move indepndently so i don tthink thats the problem. The issue i'm having is with the shape keys. I'm assuming this is an artifact of the many times i have symmetrized the body.

The left side works perfectly all the shape keys do what they are supposed to do. Also I am not refering to the arm, i dont really care about that at the moment. I just want to get the rest of the body shape keys working. The entire right side of the body is all jank and messed up. I have tried looking for a solution but have found none.

The image above is an example of the deformation on the breast since its the most easy to see.

[plush hull]

oh ok it's just a simple component, do i have to set it some way or just adding it is cool

[somber sequoia]

Tricky. I'd probably make sure the body is symmetrical before setting up the shape keys, and make my left vs. right shape keys off one that does both sides, by duplicating it and removing the verts on the side that shouldn't move. If you already have one side right though you might have to try the "snap to symmetry" functions in blender

[somber sequoia]

you should really watch a basic avatar setup tutorial, it will be explained.
Also read the docs: https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/creating-your-first-avatar#step-5---adding-an-avatar-descriptor

[spark walrus]

well heres the thing, the body already have shape keys. This was an existing avatar that i modified. So all the shape keys should be correct on the working side. In the example the breast shape key is one that indeed does both sides, and the majority if not all of the shape keys are for both sides.

I think you may be right in that some of the geometry is not symmetrical.

[somber sequoia]

Probably

[spark walrus]

no change, must have been a point I accidently grabbed at some point for that 1 pair

[somber sequoia]

Were you trying that with a shape key active, or basis?

[hazy quest]

In play-mode with Gesture Manager, the avatar's one leg is slightly rotated/tilted outwards. There are no custom FX, Gesture, Action, Menu, Para, etc..
What's causing this?
I can't show the avatar.

[somber sequoia]

bone roll not being 0 is my first guess

[timber wharf]

default locomotion

[somber sequoia]

oh that

[timid kite]

trying to make a ball. added to the avatar but it scales not from center. it does have armature. how do i fix it?

[unkempt sail]

I'm trying to figure out how to activate haptic feedback on the controllers through contactors. I've found ways to do it from world objects, but not from the avatar

[timber wharf]

@timid kite ball what

@unkempt sail theres no such thing, only worlds have access to haptics

[somber sequoia]

how did you add it? where did it come from?

[timid kite]

i made it in blender and armature linked with vrcf

[somber sequoia]

Where is the object's origin?

if not at the center point you want to scale from, fix that.

[balmy barn]

if its weighted to a bone just scale that

[proud jasper]

Hi everyone need help I'm trying to upload my lunabeast and I keep getting this error I've tried using an older sdk version and still nothing she'll work in playmode and I can build and test i just cant build and upload does anyone have any ideas on how I can get her uploaded?

[icy dew]

why in the world is my model importing like this

[somber sequoia]

have you looked at the 14 alerts? maybe one is relevant.

[timid kite]

origin is at the bottom. then i press origin to geometry and now its in the center. then i apply transforms and its at the bottom again.

[somber sequoia]

Yes, that's what apply transforms does

[timid kite]

even if i dont apply transforms and import it into unity its still at the bottom. how do i cement the change of origin being at the center?

[somber sequoia]

origin to geometry ought to do what you want here.

[proud jasper]

None are

[somber sequoia]

oh well, I was hoping that'd be easy

[icy dew]

okay the blender file was possessed by a demon or something

saved it over into a new file and that exported fine

[proud jasper]

Only 1 error and 1 alert thats it I'm only having trouble with this one every other uploads no problem

[dark plaza]

um hi i need help , the 2022 unity is stuck on downloading idk what to do

i tkeeps on getting stuck

;_;

it does this, and nothing else

[unkempt sail]

I mean, there's OSC, and products like Gigglepuck that use it. It is a thing, just not a common thing. It's not part of UDON, but it can be done. I just need help setting it up for rumbling a controller.

[gaunt knoll]

skip the install

[gaunt knoll]

yeah thats false

[dark plaza]

but i mean i still have to install it

[gaunt knoll]

skip the install

[dark plaza]

i did but

i cant even do a project brah

[gaunt knoll]

https://unity.com/releases/editor/whats-new/2022.3.22f1#installs

[dark plaza]

oke im doing it

[timber wharf]

@gaunt knoll well, for osc and external app, anything doable, see hatptic vests. no vibration from generic sdk avatars

so pls clarify

while generic bundled udon can do it no prob

[gaunt knoll]

i have vive controllers the wand on my legs i use contact receiver when someone walking in me it sends a true value to my code using pythonosc and it vibrates my controller

[vapid slate]

if im adding wings to the lower back... do i add it to the spine or the hips?

[gaunt knoll]

I would say hips

Depends how low it is

[rugged spear]

I need help with a avi, I'm trying to do the lip-sync on my avi, but non of my blend shape keys are exporting, they only export when I remove the shade auto smooth modifier, but without it the avi looks really bad, I have no idea what is happening and i really need help

This is what I mean by looks bad

It has texture issues around the eye, and its glossy

[trim edge]

heyyy, how would someone.. go about getting a certain job done.. trying to price how much something would be but pretty sure we cannot talk about it in this server but have absolutely no idea where to find people that do this certain type of work. iykyk. thanks ❤️ (not nsfw work -needed to clarify-)

[dark plaza]

why is it white?

[left gull]

because it doesnt have any materials applied to it yet

[dark plaza]

how do i apply them?

[gaunt knoll]

https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1204506421631393913

here

[left gull]

Assets->Create->Material then drag your texture into the albedo slot and drop onto the designated mesh

[vapid slate]

if im adding accessories like a tiara], do i need to attach it to the head armature or no

[left gull]

if you're adding it in unity then you might want to make a empty gameobject that's parented to the head armature and then add the tiara into the gameobject

[vapid slate]

oki

[left gull]

if you're doing it in blender then you'd weightpaint it to the head bone

[vapid slate]

i did it through unity, i also added the vrcfury toggle thing to it

[unique vault]

Does anyone know how to fix this problem

My file is a vrm from vroid and whenever I put on toon lit or other shaders for quest it does this

Th suit does it too at the top

Does anyone have a solution

[left gull]

That just looks like it requires transparency and quest doesnt support transparency

so the quest shaders wont work

[vapid slate]

anyone know how to make custom tattoos for an avi...

[left gull]

take the base's skin texture to an image editor (or a duplicate of it) and draw whatever design you want overtop of it (if you need a 3d view of it then you could do this in blender to get an idea on where your lines sit or use a paid program like substance painter if blender's paint function isnt nice nuff)

[vapid slate]

what if i cant find the base texture...

[left gull]

gotta try harder to find it then? if the skin shows up in the unity editor then it exists in the files somewhere

[vapid slate]

oh skin texture i read something else, so sorry lol

how do i take it to an image editor?

[left gull]

open your desired image editor>go to file/open or whatever its called in the editor>find the texture and it'll open it

its just like opening up a normal file

[vapid slate]

do i export it from unity or...

[left gull]

the texture??

no

it can just be opened like a normal file with no exporting or anything

[upper ridge]

Can you explain base’s skin texture, he doesn’t understand and he won’t ask the question so I’m here to ask questions for him

It’s his first time trying to implement avatars and trying to make it quest compatible

[left gull]

i really dont think i can anymore then i already have

im using the most basic terms i can think of

[upper ridge]

Gotcha

[plush hull]

what can i do for that bruh

[left gull]

open up the console and look for the 3 topmost red errors

that warning/error shows up everytime an avatar fails even if it's your own blueprint ID or there being none in the pipeline manager

[plush hull]

oh yh mb didn't realise

[spark walrus]

does anyone have info on how the rig's bones are supposed to be named? i used a tutorial and it had the wrong names...

like a video or documentation or anything

[balmy barn]

bone names can be anything, just easier for unity to have them in english i guess (auto assign)

most basic one

(toes not needed)

[spark walrus]

i havent used unity before so i might just be doing something wrong

[left gull]

hit the configure button and check that the correct bones are in the right slots

there might be some missing or in the wrong slots

[vapid slate]

@left gull ....

nothing happens

[spark walrus]

oh thank you thats probably the issue

[left gull]

you're hitting open despite it already being open on the right, additionally you're meant to select the texture here

[balmy barn]

since you are using poi, learn decals - easy to place anywhere without editing base texture

its in poi shader setting

[vapid slate]

oki, how do i do that? just mess with it?

[somber sequoia]

not sure if you got an answer, but yes, this is correct - you need to apply all modifiers (except armature) before exporting.
You can use this tool on a mesh with shape keys: https://github.com/przemir/ApplyModifierForObjectWithShapeKeys

[somber sequoia]

don't have a mesh object the same name as a humanoid bone.

Head here.

[vapid slate]

is there a way to add more decals or is it only 3 thats allowed?

[somber sequoia]

That depends on the shader you're using.

[vapid slate]

poiyomi

[olive pelican]

You can make a seperate UV set and have basically infinite decals that way

[vapid slate]

how do i do that?

[olive pelican]

This requires using....🅱️lender. DUN DUN DUNNN

[somber sequoia]

Poi does 4 decals

[vapid slate]

impossible!!

[olive pelican]

Also, yeh, it's 4 channels, not 3.

RGBA

Alpha is a channle for masks in Poi

[vapid slate]

theres no way of adding more? :(

[spark walrus]

when publishing an avatar the pixel light count resets back to 4.. is this normal? did i miss a save setting button somewhere?

[somber sequoia]

4 is correct

[olive pelican]

the heck is that?

[rugged spear]

I cant apply it with the shape keys, blender just doesnt let me

[spark walrus]

oh i was just getting errors about it decreasing performance so i was worried itd be a problem but ty

[somber sequoia]

That's why I suggested that tool

[rugged spear]

Ill try it next time im on

[vapid slate]

is there a way to add more decals to the shader or not!

[somber sequoia]

Yes, though you'd have to code it yourself.

[left gull]

probably not but poiyomi has their own docs:https://www.poiyomi.com/intro and discord you could look/ask in

[odd prawn]

Anyone know how to achieve the water dripping on avatar?

[vapid slate]

the discord server is more dead than my grandma

[somber sequoia]

That's done via shader, you'd need to find one that does it

[errant shore]

a little while ago, i made a vrcfury toggle to toggle on and off the vrc.aa blendshape. ever since i did that, vrc.aa has not worked as a visem even when i remove the toggle

is there a way to fix that?

its selected as the aa visem

it just doesnt work when I make the aa sound in vrchat

the toggle works fine

[gaunt knoll]

@errant shore you might be better asking this in the fury discord

[errant shore]

could you invite me?

[gaunt knoll]

Sadly no but it's on their website

https://vrcfury.com/

[errant shore]

nevermind

i updated the sdk and it fixed it

[orchid blade]

I tried both

[bronze rock]

anyone know why unity keeps trying to remove my audio source for my avatar

[somber sequoia]

is it a quest avatar? sound isn't allowed on those.

[bronze rock]

its pc and quest

ik quest cant have audio

[somber sequoia]

Yep, that's what it'll do if you're in quest build mode

[bronze rock]

how would i fix it where the avi is still quest compatible buit theaudio can play on pc

[somber sequoia]

are you using the same avatar for both?

[bronze rock]

yes

[somber sequoia]

ah. You probably need to use this or similar: https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/per-platform-avatar-overrides

[bronze rock]

alright thank you!

[rugged spear]

So issue with this is that it DOESNT WORK, it still looks weird, and holy work if the moddifier hasn't been applied

[somber sequoia]

I've had decent luck with that script, but it certainly doesn't work in all cases.

[hasty plover]

I’m not sure if this is a rigging issue or a weight paint issue so I’m coming here for help

[somber sequoia]

weight paint.

Heads are generally not deformable, start by having uniform weight, tweak from there if needed.

[hasty plover]

Thank you!

[somber sequoia]

I mean, I'm assuming that wasn't intended - you didn't say specifically. So if you wanted a head made out of marshmallow, definitely tell us 🙂

[hasty plover]

lol mb yeah no don’t want a marshmallow head

[somber sequoia]

haha didn't think so 🙂

[spark walrus]

how do i make sure these attach together

they are not supposed to be split like that

[somber sequoia]

merge vertices probably

[tough marsh]

help.. please...... every single time i select the mouth mesh it wont change and also i cant switch it from viseme blend shape- its just stuck like this

ive tried removing the component and pasting it back, ive tried restarting my sdk, everythings updated etc

[somber sequoia]

you should be able to drag the mesh object into that slot, does that not work?

[shy cliff]

i lost this avatar anyone know the name of it? the 1 with the red

[somber sequoia]

#1138520828556890214

[shy cliff]

k

[zenith magnet]

hihi can someone help? i added this outfit to the model and this keeps happening on this part only... jittering

[hasty plover]

Sorry for the @ but I’m gonna be so honest I have no clue what uniform weight is. I’m so sorry 😅

[clever cloak]

guess who's redoing their whole avatar project file again for the billionth time

just a quick question for now, for maximum image quality, what is the best texture compression format?

of these

[indigo compass]

Depends

You are in android build mode though it would seem so for normal color textures ASTC

[clever cloak]

im on pc for this version

using lac avatar compressor

[indigo compass]

Well, ASTC doesn't exist on PC

But it is the superior format

[clever cloak]

ill go with that then

would 4x4 be the best looking one of that?

[indigo compass]

Anyway.
PC: Color textures -> DXT1
Normal maps -> BC5
You got color textures with gradients -> BC7
(Forget when you want to use DXT5)

Android:
I think almost always ASTC because it is, as has been described, a complicated texture format that programmers tricked hardware engineers into putting into silicon.
4x4 is the highest quality one, but size is unimpressive, 6x6 or 8x8 if you need to compress it more (true compression, the actual size of the textures get smaller)

There is no one texture format you want to use

ASTC is the closest but only because it is behind the scenes several texture formats in a trenchcoat, but it doesn't work on PC.

[clever cloak]

i see

follow up question, do my normal maps need to be the same resolution as my textures

and like alpha maps etc

i assume yes but just wanna make sure

[indigo compass]

Nothing has to be the same resolution, just try it out and see how it looks.
A lot of masking textures can be waaaay smaller.
With good normal maps you can kind of lower the res of your body texture.

Or for example, 1k albedo (color) texture, or lower and 2k emission texture, or lower.
If your emissions are where the sharp lines of your albedo texture are then it will add the sharpness the albedo lacks.

[clever cloak]

brief video explaining what im trying to do in case that helps clear anything up

[indigo compass]

As far as I can tell you should easily be able to preserve that fabric quality by just tiling the normal map, you do that in the material settings.

Every shader will change where those settings are though, but in standard unity it looks like this.

Poi has those settings in a drop down right next to the texture slot

[indigo compass]

And of course, uploaded for PC setting that tool to make everything ASTC is probably not doing anything, would assume it is just falling back to DXT1, since it is the standard and generally what you want to be using anyway.

-# I highly doubt the tool can cludge it in, but if it managed to force upload ASTC then your textures would not render on some people's computers.

[hard turtle]

i have it installed

why cant i swap to build on android

its greyed out

[clever cloak]

Working on the quest version, and the hands look weird

Discoloured

Around that middle part

overall i got the avatar running and looking decent on quest so that is lovely

the hand thing is like ideally a fix but its not the end of the world if its just like that

[ornate stump]

Does it show the same when in unity?

[clever cloak]

No. looks totally fine there

w lighting on and off looking at the weird spot

Other strange issue I’m having

And video showcase of me testing avatar on quest and the weird hand thing

[ornate stump]

Is this showing the shader using on quest?

[ornate stump]

For the knee, you will have to check knee bend angle of the model. The knee in tpose should bend only forward and not having lateral angle.

[clever cloak]

yes, toon standard

[ornate stump]

Is it using normal map?

[clever cloak]

i believe so, let me double check

no, it is not

neither is the pc version

there is no normal map for the body

[clever cloak]

is that something i can do in unity or do i need to go to blender

[ornate stump]

Blender.

[clever cloak]

i see

[ornate stump]

Try moving some blendshape slider on the body and see the shade appear.

[clever cloak]

no dice alas

[ornate stump]

What does this mean?

[clever cloak]

none of the blendshapes show it

no dice basically means no luck, or it didn't work

[ornate stump]

I know but that is ambiguous for the answer for whether the problem is showing or not.

[clever cloak]

sorry, its just something i say when something doesn't work. ill avoid it here i guess

[ornate stump]

"doesn't work" also should be avoided as well. But instead more descriptive answer of what it does or what you see.

[clever cloak]

okay, none of the blendshape sliders changed the shade

[ornate stump]

Is the shader set shade type for flat or something else?

[clever cloak]

its set to custom

default settings

[ornate stump]

Screenshot it.

[clever cloak]

the base avatar has no normal map for the body or alpha or anything, just an outline mask

which i dont believe works on quest so i didn't add it

[ornate stump]

Try using flat shading and test in quest. If the shade doesn't show up, at least we know it's lighting problem.

[clever cloak]

will do

[ornate stump]

What lighting settings you have in the scene btw?

[clever cloak]

not sure, just the default i believe

[clever cloak]

tried on flat and still have the hand texture thing

new settings, same results

light settings

[ornate stump]

The scene light is in menu Window > Rendering > Lighting.

[ornate stump]

In Environment tab.

[clever cloak]

full size

wait thats scene again whoops

[ornate stump]

Change source to gradient and try changing to different color.

Also disable directional light in the scene.

[clever cloak]

im not seeing any changes in the lighting when changing colours

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot the screen?

[ornate stump]

Also the scene view as well.

[ornate stump]

In the material change shading back to custom.

[clever cloak]

still looks the same

[ornate stump]

Strange. Try without rimlight and test it.

[clever cloak]

still none of the weird artifacts from the quest

[ornate stump]

I mean test in quest.

[clever cloak]

ah ill go do that

[ornate stump]

Does it show the same when test in PC?

[runic garden]

hey, lads, quick question, I cannot remember what happened to my avatar but :
for some reason the outfits(all of them) are not linked with armature anymore, If I rotate leg, the pant wont move at all.
but in play mode and in VRChat they are fine and connected, is this normal?I could not remember

[clever cloak]

quest version still has it

[clever cloak]

pc version does not have it

however it does have the leg tilt but thats a problem for another day

[ornate stump]

Change shading to Realistic, and change sliders under there to be all zero. See if shade appear in unity.

[ornate stump]

It depends on what method you use for armature link. If using vrcfury or modular avatar then it's somewhat normal.

[clever cloak]

hm, still not seeing it

i also tried the other realistics

same result

[ornate stump]

Try with different light gradient as well.

[ornate stump]

Or if you already see some shadow, try to rotate the directional light.

[clever cloak]

i see shadows but none of the artifacting

[ornate stump]

Increase some the blendshape slider for the body and rotate the light again.

[clever cloak]

any of these in particular i should try? just gonna try them all for now

[ornate stump]

Just one of any of it.

Improper mesh import setting will make blendshape mess up the surface normal.

[clever cloak]

not seeing any changes on the palm area from any of these, or any of the artifacting

tbh i think ill just leave it as that for the time being. its getting late and its not a massive issue as the avatar otherwise looks great

ill be back probably over the weekend to try more troubleshooting as its a very odd issue

thank you for the help!

i hope you have a good day/night

[ornate stump]

I don't even know what the issue is after eliminating so many other factors.

[clever cloak]

what ill tyr next is joining a lobby w another person on quest and have them look at it. maybe its an issue with just my quest

i doubt it but its worth checking nonetheless

if not that, ill take another look at the texture for the body

and see if that has any oddities

Heres a quick video of when i checked how the pc version was, just in case that holds any clues. looked fine to me though but im no expert

tested in same world

alright off to bed goodnight

[weary yew]

Does anyone know how to make Digitigrade Legs work on Quest? The SDK Gave me the error that the Rotation and Parent Constraints will be removed. my SDK is 3.10.1

[junior void]

there are vrc rotation constraints

just switch them from unity to vrchat kind

[weary yew]

oh. ok. I'll do that

Ok so it did work. but now I have a problem with Toes. they strech out for some reason

am I supposed to weight paint it to the Ankle part?

[junior void]

Have you checked the import settings rig setup?

[weary yew]

no errors here

It's my first time with Digitigrade legs. and I followed a YT Tutorial so it should be fine

but it's not-

[junior void]

Hm well is that image in play mode or static?

Also when moving the Digi joints, does that look fine? As in it could be the constraints

[weary yew]

I'm not sure how to check it correctly. as I said. it's my first time with those

[balmy barn]

default vrchat locomotion shuffle legs sideway abit and down

test in unity play mode see if you get same result as ingame

[plush hull]

yo i need some help, i bought some clothes for a certain avi but the thing is the top clothes doesn't have any arm part i could link to the original avi's arms for example

these are the two tops u can see above

that's whats happening in game, is there any way i can add like arm part to link them to the avi so it sticks to the avi properly

[ornate stump]

Did you do armature link?

[plush hull]

did but might have linked it to the wrong part

what would u link it to ?

[ornate stump]

If you think you're doing it wrong then you better have to post detail on how you did so we can spot what's wrong.

[plush hull]

slided both of them into the avi root

should i link it to the hips instaed ?

[ornate stump]

The Link From should have been the avatar's armature object.

[ornate stump]

And the armature link component should have been put on the cloth's armature object.

[plush hull]

that's the thing

it does not have an armature

[ornate stump]

How does the cloth move then?

[plush hull]

that's what triggers me

plus everything's in japanese so yh i'm not helped but whatever

[ornate stump]

Without armature, object can't be deformed.

[ornate stump]

Where did you got "undershirt" object from then?

[limpid shoal]

Yeah, its kind of like this. I've been searching high and low on the internet for a solution but couldn't find one. This isn't my picture but its the closest representation of the problem I could find.

[plush hull]

booth

jk

[ornate stump]

Not what I meant.

[plush hull]

was inside that initially

i'm looking in the PB thing if i can find an arm or anything but eh

[ornate stump]

Is it really? Did it came in as a prefab?

[plush hull]

yup

[ornate stump]

You should never "Unpack Prefab".

If you did then put the new prefab in again.

[plush hull]

alrrr then

[plush hull]

do i just delete everything i got from there and put the prefab in again

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[plush hull]

alr bet

[limpid shoal]

And it only seems to be happening with my custom novabeasts. All other avatars are okay.

[plush hull]

done

[ornate stump]

What are inside of the prefab? Do you see "Armature" object?

[plush hull]

pantsbone is the armature

[ornate stump]

Put the vrcfury armature link there and choose Link from to the avatar armature.

[plush hull]

oh yh let me just

[ornate stump]

Did you put the prefab as a part of avatar hierarchy?

[plush hull]

yh i just did while reading the error srry for that

still have the yellow one though

[ornate stump]

Then follow it instruction.

[plush hull]

done

[ornate stump]

Test it.

[dawn oak]

im trying to use multiply for a transparent quest material, it looks fine in unity but in game it glows white, anyone know the cause?

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot from in game for reference?

[dawn oak]

i just made a completely new material and i redid it and it seemed to have worked, didnt think it would work

[plush hull]

ummmmmmmmmm i think i did something wrong lol

[ornate stump]

Screenshot the armature link again.

[plush hull]

yup, just a sec i'm reuploading to see if my fix worked

alr well i fixed it now everything's good

thx for the help again 🙏

[proven quail]

Yes this is the current fix. For some reason, converting an old material to a quest particle shader can leave some override tags behind telling vrchat to override the shader. It's really dumb but the fix is to just make a fresh material

[dawn oak]

ohh okay! ty for explaining

[heady sparrow]

i got a weird issue, anyone knows how to fix the belt lookin' laggy ? i can use the other model, that's the pc version
left is pc and right is quest

i didn't do anything that would mess it up as far as i'm aware

same fbx for both btw

[proven quail]

Here is the bug report canny https://vrchat.canny.io/sdk-bug-reports/p/quest-particle-shader they are working on the issue

[heady sparrow]

just duplicated the avi and the belt is for whatever reason linked to 0 0 0 even when im out of play mode and moving the avi

idk what's happenin'

[heady sparrow]

i need help asap if possible plz

[somber sequoia]

"Uniform" as in "all the same value"

[heady sparrow]

fixed it, now i just need to fix the colliders and i'm done

[vapid hedge]

does anyone have a prefab for seats i need them for a train avatar i made

[somber sequoia]

why do you need a prefab? Just add the VRC Station component

[agile reef]

Howdy!! I have a question- I have some of these clothing types set to default as I want this to be the outfit I want to spawn into but, for some reason the model is spawning with NOTHING on. . . is there something else I have to enable?

[somber sequoia]

saved state overrides the default - did you set it naked before?

[gaunt knoll]

Are you talking about when you loading the Avi it's naked

[primal swift]

im trying to make an avatar but for some reasom the file size of the model seems to get wayyyy bigger when i build

[lament aurora]

how do i make this into a vrcgat character

[proper fjord]

a got a avi and its saying that they dont own sum type of blue print .. how do i get rid of it? can anyone helps

[night ember]

Pipeline manager

[proper fjord]

but wa do i do? im new to uploading avis

[night ember]

Remove the id in it

[proper fjord]

where do i find it?

[night ember]

Avatar descriptor location

Root of the avatar

[proper fjord]

im so lost

im so sorry

[lament aurora]

@night ember when your done helping her can you help me please cuz idk im new af

[night ember]

Blender?

[proper fjord]

?

[night ember]

Its on the root of the avatar

[lament aurora]

you think that would work? huh ok

[night ember]

You need to make a 3d model

[proper fjord]

idk what your talking about

[lament aurora]

okay, then the art i have can turn into 3d

[night ember]

What

[lament aurora]

idk man

[ornate stump]

Everything can be turned in to 3D of course.

[lament aurora]

you think you can help?

[night ember]

Its under where the avatar descriptor is

[ornate stump]

I don't help.

[night ember]

Download blender and start modeling

[lament aurora]

k

[lament aurora]

oh, okay

[ornate stump]

I can answer specific questions. But not for personal coaching through every step.

[lament aurora]

kk

[agile reef]

yes, but I happened to figure it out- I did a silly and did the animations wrong. ..

[night ember]

Whyd you block out the name of the fbx?

[somber sequoia]

I like the colors in this one

[lament aurora]

ty

i made it

my desine

but this is better tho same but full body

[proper fjord]

its just not working

[night ember]

Screenshot your console then

[night ember]

Asking chatgpt to make an ai image for you is not the same as you making it

[lament aurora]

referenced off this i just needed a full body that's all

[hazy quest]

Is Audio link Possible On Quest?

[night ember]

Not for avatars

[hazy quest]

Hmm

Thanks

[arctic ginkgo]

no, but depending on what you're trying to do you might be able to fake it

[hazy quest]

Like, how?

[arctic ginkgo]

for example, my partner wanted an avatar that has rainbow emissions (cycling through each color) and pulsed on/off to the beat. On Quest we just animated a looping animation for a toggle that pulsed at a common and easily divisible bpm. iirc we used 120 bpm

[round comet]

Oo thats so smart

[arctic ginkgo]

it's not going to work for every use-case, but it worked well enough that it fooled a few people

if you turn it on when there's music playing, it almost always looked close-enough to the beat that some people thought it was actually audio link

[hazy quest]

Will remember this, if I ever wanted to give it a try.
Thanks.

[night ember]

Not one bit of that is the console

[proper fjord]

ok...

like idk

[night ember]

The console
Where it shows you the errors

[proper fjord]

okay, like i said its my first time uploading a avi so idk where shi is

[proper fjord]

this?

[primal swift]

idk why i felt like it, its nothing bad xD

[somber sequoia]

Yes but always scroll up to look at the first 2-3 messages first, that's usually where the root cause is.

that corrupt or missing prefab error suggests maybe you didn't install gogo loco?

[proper fjord]

as a package? i didddd

[somber sequoia]

possibly it's looking for a different version, I'd update that and VRCFury if you haven't

oh also the error about Blender is because you have a .blend file it's trying to turn into a .fbx

[proper fjord]

idk how to do that

[night ember]

Did you import gogo loco?

[proper fjord]

yah i did

[somber sequoia]

in VCC (or ALCOM)

[proper fjord]

oh?

[somber sequoia]

yes?

[vapid hedge]

i did not know i could do that ty

[round comet]

Any tuts for simple hue shift on pc and quest?

Still inexperienced with some toggles

[night ember]

Needs a box collider set to istrigger

[night ember]

Animate the slider/color itself

[vapid hedge]

idk how to do that

[night ember]

Its just adding the box collider component

[vapid hedge]

what is that

[night ember]

A component the same way you added the vrc station one

[vapid hedge]

i see it

is this it?

[night ember]

Yes and just leave it on by default

You can animate it off after but it needs to be in by default or it breaks

[vapid hedge]

not planing on animating ty you for you're help

[worthy pier]

Any idea on how one have the meshes from a avatar move with the armature?

Blenders automatic thing messes up meshes

[lilac musk]

Weight painting

[somber sequoia]

Automatic weights are at best a starting point.

[worthy pier]

Tried that and it messed up the avatar pretty bad

[somber sequoia]

obviously I have no idea what that could possibly mean

Feel free to provide detail though.

[lilac musk]

Kazin was saying it's not very good. At best, it will help you get started. Then you'll have to go in manually and fix the weights yourself

[worthy pier]

For example when i moved the arms parts of the wings got dragged with the arm lol (my bad im running on very little sleep)

[night ember]

Automatic weight in sections

[somber sequoia]

Yes - this is why automatic weights is at best a place to start from. Personally I don't use it and don't recommend it in most cases.

If you understand what it does, it becomes obvious why it's not good at what you actually want.

[worthy pier]

Got it

Time to learn how to weight paint

[olive pelican]

RoyalSkiesLLC on youtube.

[amber rain]

I took this model into blender and now the eyes are wobbly. I didn't mess with the face in blender at all, I just joined meshes together, then in unity it did this. Is there a way to fix it?

[olive pelican]

Avatar Descriptor, change the values for lookig ahead, left, and right in the eyelook area.

[amber rain]

No I mean if you look at her eyes waterline/eye lashes they are wobbly looking and no longer crisp / straight

[olive pelican]

Oh. Probably a blend shape issue. Did you add anything, any modifiers, make any changes to the model besides joining meshes?

[amber rain]

Nope, I just joined the meshes together and redid the armature so the outfits I put on her had the same bones.

[olive pelican]

Do the wibbles wobble if you move?

[amber rain]

This is what they should look like.

No they dont move, they are just not cleaan lined anymore.

[olive pelican]

hm. ok, I'm guessing this model has a bout 13 billion adjustment blend shapes, yeah?

[amber rain]

Yeah most likely. It was a Miltina base, but I changed the eye shapes in the blendshapes values

[olive pelican]

ding. there's yer issue. it didn't copy over consistently.

either the shapes themselves broke in the merge, or something somewhere is weird.

[amber rain]

So i should do the blendshapes in blender first?

[olive pelican]

ye. check which blendshapes in the meshes you're merging might be the same name.

adjust them in blender, and make a new shape from current

that's your new "face/body set" shape.

[amber rain]

Thank you I will try that

[olive pelican]

good luck

[dark jay]

What causes my bottom teeth to pop out of my mouth when talking for my avatar

[somber sequoia]

probably bad weight painting, but it's hard to tell from description

[jolly sinew]

hello, how long do i have to wait before i can upload my avatar to vrchat? ,-,

it says "due to security reasons i cant upload yet" or smth

from unity

[lilac musk]

?upload

[flat musk]

You must obtain at least "New User" Trust Rank in our Trust and Safety system in order to upload content. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.

As an aside, you must have a VRChat account to upload content. That means you can't use a Steam account, Oculus account, or Viveport account to upload content like worlds or avatars.

Source: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/frequently-asked-questions

[jolly sinew]

i have my acc for 7 years

(i havent play on it tho)

[lilac musk]

Nothing to do with time, it's rank that matters. What rank are you?

[jolly sinew]

probably 0

i accidentally xreated a different vrchat acc cuz i thought i didnt have any yet

then i found my old one

and having a 7 year badge looks cooler than 4 xd

so i just gotta play?

[lilac musk]

Rank. Read.

[jolly sinew]

what does rank mean @lilac musk

[dark jay]

Only happens with webcam tracking

[lilac musk]

Did you read?

[jolly sinew]

yes ? ??

can you just answer my question ?? ß

no need to be like

rude

arrogant

[lilac musk]

Then what are you not understanding? It literally tells you. Rage bait?

[jolly sinew]

youre raigebaiting when you treat me like this

i asked a simple question wth.

[grizzled sundial]

Does anyone have some tips on modeling hair? I am trying to make Rose's hair but cant seem to get it right
-# sobs
ANY HELP APPRECIATED!!!
-# also I have tried curves but it didn't work out well

[grizzled sundial]

Hi i thought I might as well tell you /pos
Rank means like the trusted system, the more you interact on vrchat the higher your rank goes! Not playing or using vrchat will keep your rank stagnant
-# at least to my knowledge wehe!

[lilac musk]

Curves are pretty common to do hair. I'd suggest giving that another try. It would probably take a bit of practice, so don't get too discouraged if you don't get it exactly how you'd like right away

[dark jay]

What causes teeth to pop out on model with webcam camera tracking on vrc

Not vr or desktop

[radiant night]

You should ask in the blender discord, I'll send you an invite

[lilac musk]

The bot already responded with the proper info, don't know why they are having such trouble understanding it though

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea how that works

[jolly sinew]

thank you 🩷

[steep wolf]

if it makes you feel any better, I plan to model my persona and she's got a single braid bang braid that's wrapped around her head

that part is one of the few things Im probably going to be nervous about... 😅

[dark jay]

Ah

[grizzled sundial]

TYSM!!

[fresh ether]

so uh whenever i use gogo, or something the avatar decides to stretch when I sit or even walk.

[jolly sinew]

im having my avatar for testing only cuz i cant upload yet and when i look up the pupils look down, how can i fix that?

[proper fjord]

can sumne help me with my avi upload on call?

[polar plume]

Hey! So i had a temporary public model open for testing, I got my account suspended for sexual content from the avi, but the avi wasnt nsfw. Is there something else that got my avi flagged?

Like just a list of things to look out for in the future so I dont have this issue again.

[indigo compass]

If the avatar has bits that are modeled or textured on then that still counts as nsfw, even if the avatar is fully clothed and cannot become nude normally.
VRChat is stricter when it comes to public avatars.

[civic sinew]

i'm not finding any errors n ive reset the project twice, what do i do?

[somber sequoia]

they would be in the Console window

[worthy pier]

I can send you some video tutorials if you want they help with modeling i think hair is in there

[grizzled sundial]

Sobs

[grizzled sundial]

That would be amazing thank you!!

[worthy pier]

Want me to dm it to you?

[proper fjord]

can someone help me upload a avi?

[spiral jay]

How do I fix this???

[somber sequoia]

#quest-optimization for clues - shrink stuff, possibly textures, possibly mesh size

[worthy pier]

Sure

[spiral jay]

I shrieked the texts like the everything but the face and skin are 64. How do I shrink a messier without messing it up??

[somber sequoia]

I know nothing about your project, was just suggesting where to look for more help

[somber sequoia]

this works better if you ask specific questions, or share error messages, etc.

[spiral jay]

Ohhhhh

[somber sequoia]

Feel free to provide details in #quest-development and maybe we can provide more specific guidance.

[spiral jay]

I got itttt

[proper fjord]

i understand that i didnt know what to click and all that and yall just stoped replyin

[somber sequoia]

okay but you didn't actually ask anything specific? you just asked for "help" a few times

[proper fjord]

Cause I don’t know what to ask again like this is like my first time I’ve ever had really problems with uploading an avi.. I have errors that I don’t know how to fix and it’s not letting me upload my avi..

[somber sequoia]

Show us the errors.

We can't help without details about exactly what you have done and what the results were.

[proper fjord]

.

[somber sequoia]

oh I answered what I thought that one was already. And told you to look at the first few errors.

[proper fjord]

to look

ii did

i dont know how to fix

like

[somber sequoia]

Again, feel free to share error messages.

[proper fjord]

does it not show it....

[somber sequoia]

okay.

well there's nothing we can help with then

[worthy pier]

Its a script error on a item i bet

[somber sequoia]

yeah it's a weird prefab issue that's probably due to wrong versions

[proper fjord]

bruh okay?

[somber sequoia]

what?

[umbral ice]

err...?...? No matter how much I resize it, it still says "needs to be 20cm tall" and yes I have reloaded the SDK multiple times

[somber sequoia]

is it located at the origin (0,0,0)?

[umbral ice]

Yes

Does it need to be at (0,0,0) ?

[somber sequoia]

that's ideal

[umbral ice]

Hm... Even when doing so, still says too short @.@

Raising the armature seemed to have fixed it

[steel fossil]

i need help from someone who knows their way around vriod models

[somber sequoia]

ask your questions!

(lots of people here know stuff about those)

[opal relic]

Someone please tell me why I am missing toon standard with every new project file

Copy and pasting project folders don't work no more

The SDK just breaks

[somber sequoia]

old SDK? Which version do you have?

[opal relic]

3.7.6

[gaunt knoll]

thats why

3.9.0 and up

[opal relic]

Duplicating project folders used to work okay

[somber sequoia]

Yep, too old, just install 3.10.1

[opal relic]

Doing that now, thank you

[somber sequoia]

(3.9 is buggy)

[opal relic]

I left it at 3.7.6 because it asked of me to use an older version of the sdk when I went to use a certain project package

Don't remember which

Ah well

Yippie, toon standard is back!

[steel fossil]

so right, im using vriod for my base but i wanted to add custom clothing models and stuff to it but no tutorial has told me how exactly to do it everywhere it says its super easy but like doesnt explain how to do it i dont want to use strictly vriod clothing for my models

[somber sequoia]

Blender is my answer

use vroid to generate the base stuff, stick it in Blender and then do everything there.

[foggy wadi]

Great

[steel fossil]

blender is hell for me cant figure it out for the life of me

[foggy wadi]

Thats not what ive been doing

^

[somber sequoia]

I'm sure there are lots of ways to do things.

[foggy wadi]

Unity seems to work for me for some clothes

[somber sequoia]

if you don't have to reshape, it can work

[steel fossil]

even like attaching it to the avi itself?

[somber sequoia]

hm?

[steel fossil]

i think only reshaping would be size

[somber sequoia]

oh - yeah, I do the attaching in Blender too in most cases

[steel fossil]

i have no idea how to do that

[gaunt knoll]

there are like 100 videos out there for it

[modest shard]

Hello!
I was working on my avi when I found that my avatar was stuck in the animation preview pose even when preview was disabled
I didn't think much of it, uploaded my avatar, and closed Unity
Coming back to it later, it seems that my avatar is very much broken and my avatar is still stuck in the preview pose and I can't get it out
Research online leads to 5 year old tutorials talking about a "AvatarControllerTPose" that I don't have
Does anybody know a solution or will it be necessary to remake my avi?

[somber sequoia]

no need to remake - if it's like that by default, pumkin's tools has a reset thingy, start with that

[grizzled sundial]

That would be amazing!!

[worthy pier]

Cant dm you

[spark walrus]

can someone help me with this issue? idk why but when i play the avatar it sets my arms back a bit and messes up my cape rig and it pushes back the cape, and the models hands are off center

pls someone....

[somber sequoia]

can you show the armature in blender?

[somber sequoia]

looks pretty normal. Assuming bone roll is 0 for most of those humanoid bones, I'd say that's correct

[spark walrus]

i dont believe so

should i recalculate the rolls?

[somber sequoia]

no need - it should be 0 for the major humanoid bones

fingers/toes do whatever is needed

[spark walrus]

do they look set to 0?

i was never taught bone rolls so sorry to be a pain

[somber sequoia]

you cannot visually see this, edit the armature, click a bone, look in the properties

[spark walrus]

so set every bone to 0?

[somber sequoia]

Yes, that's what I said.

[spark walrus]

done

all of the humanoid bones are set to 0

[somber sequoia]

not saying this fixes it but it's definitely a problem if they aren't 0

[spark walrus]

lemme open unitu

@somber sequoia its still lobsided

😔

[somber sequoia]

when?

play mode?

does it do that in game too?

[spark walrus]

im using gesture manager

[bright raft]

what might cause contacts on hands to just not exist? I once had this issue a year ago but never figured out why and no one responded ever
the first image has contacts overlay on and there are no fingies, and the second shows the colliders are set in the avatar descriptor

at first I thought maybe there was a hard contact limit and I was exceeding it, but I found an avatar that had way more contacts than what I have so I don't think it's that

before when I had issues it just kinda magically fixed itself on it's own somehow and I didn't understand why

[hoary crane]

There's no limit to actual materials in VRChat right, just how many MB the textures take up?

[timber wharf]

yes. and material slots

[hoary crane]

Material slots?

[sharp nebula]

hey so i have a shader that wont lock in for some reason and idky

[queen sparrow]

I'm trying to upload an avatar but when I try to upload it it says the head, hands and feet are not mapped but on the rig settings they are

[vernal folio]

how do i fix my textures fucking up whenever i use toonlit

[flint rose]

your mesh probably has black vertex colors. use the Toon Standard shader, it has an option to not use vertex colors

[chilly solar]

i have fur bits on my avatar that are toggleable and i also want them to turn off when clothes are put on. i thought i could just add the fur off animations to the clothes animations like this and it didnt work. the fur doesnt go away when the shirts put on. the fur is toggled with blend shapes and i tried to set the fur side blend shape to 1 when the shirt it put on in its animation but that doesnt work either. idk what to do :c

[ornate stump]

Are those three animation clips have both shirt and fur animation on each?

[chilly solar]

yeah :c

i dont know how to do this properly ive never tried to do like 2 different things happening with animations

[ornate stump]

It will be easier if you separate the 2 things into 2 layer.

[chilly solar]

i think i understand that but idk what exactly to do with it. do you know what i can search online so i can find a good tutorial or something? i fear i need so much more details than people wanna give me here but idk what to begin to search online

[ornate stump]

I don't. It's simply making another toggle layer.

[chilly solar]

like just keep toggling the clothes and fur separate? so like you gotta turn off the fur when you put the shirt on

bc i can easily do that but i wanted it to be easier for people

[ornate stump]

Yes. Just add extra transition condition to the fur state transition involving the shirt.

[chilly solar]

thats alot of words for elmo

[ornate stump]

Too bad it can't be less.

[chilly solar]

okay harsh im just saying i dont understand

[ornate stump]

Simply "if shirt off and fur on then enable fur" and "if shirt on or fur off then disable fur".

[ornate stump]

If you don't know, you can add multiple condition to a transition that make "and" keyword. Or you can make transition multiple between same 2 states and that make it "or" keyword.

[chilly solar]

i dont know all this stuff yet but its alright i got it

[ornate stump]

That sounds conflicting.

[chilly solar]

yeah

[ornate stump]

If don't get it just say so. Or you could even go to take a look and see what I meant. It's really obvious once you actually look at it.

[chilly solar]

i know i just have a hard time getting help in these servers i find people dont wanna explain things to me as much as i need them to so if i gotta ask for a deeper explanation i just gotta give up :c

[rocky pine]

Hi, so, ive been trying to figure out this issue for a few hours now but im not sure what's wrong. and far as i know, the null error means its an sdk issue or something and not my avatar. it doesn't have a blueprint id attached, ive tried reimporting packages in creator comp, i even tried making an entirely new unity instance. im not sure what's wrong...

[bronze niche]

clear the blueprint ID. it should be near the avatar descriptor

[bronze niche]

this often means there is an avatar uploaded with that ID number. So clear yours and reupload

[rocky pine]

there is no blueprint id to clear unless im missing something. this is my first time making a scratch avatar so im very lost

[ornate stump]

This is your error, or maybe one of multiple.

[ornate stump]

Blueprint ID error usually is side effect of avatar build failed due to other error.

Most of the time that is.

[bronze niche]

I sometimes upload a test version before handing the files to a client. If I dont clear the ID, they get an error like this

[rocky pine]

i thaught it was optional since it doesnt tell me theres a problem, and when i do add the chest bone the error is still there

[bronze niche]

but yea, I missed the obvious chest error... 2AM for me 😪

[ornate stump]

Chest bone isn't optional for VRChat. It's strictly requires one.

[ornate stump]

Did you assign chest bone and click Apply? Then configure again and chest bone is out?

[rocky pine]

i forgot that there was the apply button omg

it uploaded... Thank you for the help omg i feel so goofy

[hollow coral]

Does this channel also assist on making prefab assets not just specifically avatars?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[bright raft]

does anyone know what might cause contacts on hands to not exist? they're set up on unity

[ornate stump]

How did you test the contact?

[hollow coral]

I'm trying to create a radial texture shift using blendtrees, but my transitions fade in rather than change instantly, whats the best way to make it instantly swap?

[ornate stump]

What do you actually mean "texture shift"?

Texture offset?

[hollow coral]

I am bad at explaining

[chilly depot]

hello i am trying to make an imposter for my avi but it just keeps loading forever. tried that with a different one too still the same. and my internet is strong =w=

[hollow coral]

but I have 4 different animation clips of different color schemes and emission layers and I want to shift between them

[chilly depot]

does anyone know how tof fix that

[hollow coral]

using a mix of decals

I'd be easier to show it

[ornate stump]

You can't use blendtree for that. As the name implies, blendtree does "blend".

So it's going to output the blend value between animations.

[hollow coral]

Whats a different way of doing it?

I tried doing it through a single linear animation but the radial just broke whenever I tried to use it in vrc but worked fine in unity

[ornate stump]

Make individual state for each clip and transition between them.

[hollow coral]

individual state?

ahhh

I gotcha

I was considering that if the blendtree was a no-go

[ornate stump]

If it's a single clip then you have to set curve tangent to constant, and enable Motion Time for a state.

[hollow coral]

How do I set a curve tangent?

[ornate stump]

Right click the key frame in animation tab while in Curve tab.

[hollow coral]

curve tab?

[ornate stump]

In Animation panel.

[hollow coral]

oh

[hollow coral]

I've got it setup like this, do I make it instant?

[ornate stump]

set curve tangent to constant

[hollow coral]

where

found it

Now what should the animation layer look like

I go to move the slider in vrc, it doesnt go past 50% and the slider instaly kicks me out when I move it

[timber wharf]

you prob set parameter for both fields in radial menu setup, only rotation one should be set

[hollow coral]

oooooo

[ornate stump]

just a single state containing that animation clip.

[steep portal]

i stripped down a rex to use as a fallback and in the sdk it says itl work as a fallback, but i dont see the use as fallback button on the site

[round comet]

I think fallbacks are slowly being retired

[steep portal]

nvm found it, the button is in the sdk

[proven quail]

If you want fallbacks to stay, you can upvote this canny. They are trying to slowly get rid of them and replace them with the imposters https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/fallbacks-should-stay

[queen sparrow]

One of the submenus of my avatar is appearing like this/is not loading the options

[unborn meteor]

i feel silly i dont know what im doing lol

im just making his procedural materials into textures first (this i know how to do) but after i need to establish shape keys for face tracking

do shape keys need to be named specific things?

[junior void]

For ft, yes

https://docs.vrcft.io/docs/tutorial-avatars/tutorial-avatars-extras/unified-blendshapes

"UE" is an option

[unborn meteor]

is there a quick and dirty like 4 or 8 specific shapes one might need for simple phonemes and open close mouth?

[junior void]

That'd be just standard visemes (15 shapes)

Ft isn't meant to be quick and dirty but also you're not required to make all that are listed

[unborn meteor]

i guess i just want his eyes to look around (simple) and then to have him able to blink and then open close mouth and maybe smile?

i dunno i never made a VRC before

i just dont want to overload myself with heaps of extras lol

also his rig is made with ARP with a couple of additional custom bones

so i guess in short: i dont need to bind myself to any specific number or configuration of shape keys?

yes .. lol

[lilac musk]

🍿

[dawn oak]

whenever i try editing a blendshape in the visimes thing it never changes its just stuck to the current ones

[left gull]

you can have as many shapekeys/blendshapes as you want but the more you have the larger your .FBX file becomes, ofc theres add-ons like VRCFury's blendshape optimizer that removes unused blendshapes which helps but only if they're not used in any animations

[dawn oak]

i also cannot change the mode as well

[lilac musk]

Sounds like your SDK is bugging out. Might want to reload it or close and reopen the project

[dawn oak]

i have tried that

[wanton tundra]

i cant seem to figure out how to get a vrchat companion to work right and ngl ive been trying for 8 hours now

[left gull]

might wanna ask/look in #creator-companion for help

[wanton tundra]

ok thank you

[left gull]

also describing what's wrong and what you've tried will help with others helping you

[wanton tundra]

will do my best friend

[somber sequoia]

oh I assumed "companion" was like a follower prop

[chilly depot]

generating imposter been loading for 4 hours. what do i do =w=

[dawn oak]

someone

[somber sequoia]

not sure what the goal here is but you have to have a unique shape key for each of those slots

[dawn oak]

no i just cannot change any

i cant swap them at all

even the mode

[trim edge]

first photo is the listing on jinxxy, 2nd is mine in my project. i cannot for the life of me get them to look the same. Not using standard due to the sleeves not showing up due to not having the culling off. using poi pro but have no idea where to put the metallic, roughness, or height pngs into poi to make it look the same as the photo. tried to ask in their dc server but they never replied to me in tickets so coming here hoping for help

[fresh raft]

Any idea as to why it says these blendshapes are clamped,. And not working in unity?

[somber sequoia]

metallic/roughness/etc go in here: https://www.poiyomi.com/shading/reflections-and-specular

height is rarely used on an avatar, and I didn't think poi even used it

[fresh raft]

1. Locate the roughness, metallic, and height images. Drag and drop these into your project.
2. Choose your material
3. Under "Colors and Normals", check 'Vertex Details" and put the height material where it says 'height". You can change how this looks by increasing the bar and numbers
4. Under "Shading" enable "Reflections and Specular"
5. Click on the arrow right NEXT to the open box where the words say "Packed maps [Expand]"
6. Drag the "Metallic" texture where it says "Metallic map" and the toughness in the "Smoothness Map"
   IMPORTANT: For roughness ONLY: Invert (There is an invert option across from where you put the texture"
7. Under "Rendering" put the "cull" to OFF - This will make it so that way your texture isn't see through in random places. Though you may need it to be on back or front depending on your mesh

Also make sure to know if you want your shader to render as "Opaque", "Cutout", "trans clipping" and so on

[somber sequoia]

(didn't see you in their server either...)

[somber sequoia]

Don't encourage turning off backface culling unless it's actually needed, it basically doubles the rendering cost

[opal relic]

I just recently updated the SDK. I opened this project just fine yesterday. Now all of the packages seem to be broken.

[somber sequoia]

Try to go back one version of gesture manager, I keep having to.

[chilly depot]

so does anyone know anything about why imposter generating not loading even after 4 hours..=w=

[opal relic]

Sure thing, trying that now

[fresh raft]

I still need help. Disabling Blendshape clamping in my player settings did nothing

[somber sequoia]

Unfortunately, nobody here has any insight into that, as it's server-side for vrchat. Maybe try a support ticket?

[trim edge]

thank you for the help on the metallic, roughness and height maps. i put everything where it needs to be but still unable to get it to look the way it does in the initial photo. any ideas?

[fresh raft]

I suggest adding rim lighting, it can make your mesh POP with that extra bit of shading

Rim lighting is really useful when you want to make a normal map pop more, as it is kinda hard to see sometimes without the rim lighting

[dawn oak]

help its just stuck still

[fresh raft]

Does the visemes you are wanting to use already have an existing animation?

[dawn oak]

nope

[fresh raft]

On your avatar configuration, make sure "write defaults" is checked on. This may not fix it, but it could help. This ensures animations and other things on your model stay consitent

[dawn oak]

ookay

[junior void]

Inspector locked?

[dawn oak]

seemes to be unlocked, unless ur tlaknig abt somewhere else how do i check

its only the visimes i cant edit

[somber sequoia]

upper right of the inspector is a lock icon

[dawn oak]

oh no its unlocked so its not that

[junior void]

Right mesh assigned?

[dawn oak]

yes

[junior void]

Tried re-adding descriptor?

[dawn oak]

the blink works and can be chnaged so i really dont get it

[dawn oak]

does that mean i have to redo everything on there

[junior void]

To test

It almost sounds like the old reset bug

[dawn oak]

seems to but that means i have to resdo everything on the descriptor

[junior void]

Copy the descriptor values

[dawn oak]

broke it again

[junior void]

Then something in it breaks it

The descriptor isn't humongous

[unborn meteor]

so when i exported his eyes rolled to the back

[junior void]

So you can read values one by one to figure it out

[dawn oak]

only the lipsyncs broken hm

[somber sequoia]

Show your eye bones - they should be perfectly vertical, with 0 bone roll

[fresh raft]

I still need help

[unborn meteor]

so they are supposed to point up?

ARP had them forward then i used CATS to force 0 roll but then they pointed up in rest pose which is what was exported

[dawn oak]

i see nothing odd

[unborn meteor]

before Rest pose was forward eyes

[somber sequoia]

For VRChat, yes.

[unborn meteor]

thats silly

[junior void]

Bugs ain't always visible in settings

[dawn oak]

how do i check then\

[unborn meteor]

if i enable the uninstalled things i get compile error

[junior void]

Didn't you say adding a new descriptor works

[unborn meteor]

imported fbx into unity and hes ded

hmmm

[junior void]

When changing bones, there's a good chance you need to set the rig to generic and back to humanoid

[unborn meteor]

his eye bone does point up but the eye ball is itself looking up too

will this point forward when in VR?

[somber sequoia]

It will point however it is in when the bone is facing up.

So you'd want to rotate the eyeball mesh to face forward in that case.

[unborn meteor]

but it was forward in the ARP rig

i set its rol and such to 0

and now its looking up

the head should be the forward?

[somber sequoia]

doesn't matter whatever you started with, this is how it must be in vrchat: bone pointing up, eye pointing forward.

[unborn meteor]

hmm

[somber sequoia]

You change this in blender by editing the armature, not posing it.

[junior void]

Vrč assumes bone point up be idle position

[unborn meteor]

..

no like when i made the rig ARP rest pose points the bone forward head forward

when i used CATS to 0 out the roll it pointed that new rest pose to up

[junior void]

Then it's using old standards

[somber sequoia]

I don't know what "rig ARP" is, just how it needs to be in VRChat. So if you have to fix it, that's how it is

yeah don't use cats for that

[unborn meteor]

ARP is the best rigging thing for Blender animated characters

[somber sequoia]

okay, never heard of it

[unborn meteor]

tho last time i made a unity thing i used CATS

tho that was in 2019

or something

lol

hm

well if you ever animate a character in blender ARP is the best rigging tool out there to date

it is a paid addon

[junior void]

Great

It's still wrong

[lilac musk]

I just do my own rigging as I have more control and can meet the criteria VRC needs

[unborn meteor]

i will edit the eye mesh so its forced forward

i never made a thing for VRC and i modeld and rigged my OC years before now lol

but am learning

makin my head do the thing

ayy i think i did the thing

now to make UNITY give him the materials and stuff lol

is 65 megs OK

[somber sequoia]

lower is better, but that's not bad at all

[unborn meteor]

awesome 🙂

now to do some alchemy in unity

woops

his hair has no bone weights

XD

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-weight-cat-checking-weight

[honest swallow]

Anyone know about this?