avatar-help

[trim smelt]

oh welp good job lmao

[spice tiger]

Hi, can someone please help me? I installed the correct version of Poiyomi Pro for this avatar, but when I click on "gesture manager," the avatar turns completely black and parts of its body are missing.

[somber sequoia]

then you have some animation that's changing things. You'll have to discover what that is.

[spice tiger]

Is all this because of an animation?

[somber sequoia]

that's my guess

[spice tiger]

I don't know how I can see it; which animation is causing this problem

[somber sequoia]

could turn off all the layers, then turn on each one in sequence to see which does it

[spice tiger]

I'll try, but it must be complicated.

[somber sequoia]

not really

[dusky terrace]

Does anyone happen to know how to setup an animator to trigger when using the index controllers, everywhere I look recommends using the actual gestures, but the index controllers don't appear to be triggering for them, any info would be appreciated. 🫡

I did find some mention of using "index_curl" but couldn't get it to work

[lavish cosmos]

So you want to trigger it only when using an index controllers, but not when using other controllers, say, quest controllers?

[dusky terrace]

I only really play on the index, but if the setup is essentially the same across controllers that have finger tracking, that would work fine for me as well. My main issue is I can't seem to find the relevant info on what parameter i can track from my FX layer to toggle in my case, a particle active/inactive layer on my animator. I have a dirty solution which is just a toggle on and off in my expressions menu, but if I could just trigger it from finger curl values that would be preferable so i don't have to mess with a 1 handed menu

[lavish cosmos]

“TrackingType”, “VRMode”, “GesutureLeftWeight” parameters. If this project is only for yourself, then yeah use the OSC curl parameter but I think it’s an overkill tbh

[dusky terrace]

Looks like it's functional during my testing, thankyou for the info, much appreciated 🥳

[lapis lichen]

I'm at lost on how to fix this issue, I cannot seem to figure out how to keep the cheek fluff from moving around when the dynamic bones work. If anybody has some advice on how to fix this I would be grateful.

[lilac musk]

I'd guess the issue is the bone the physbone component is on is moving. You could try adding that bone to the ignore transform section of the physbone settings. Should make that bone no longer part of the movement

[lapis lichen]

I will give it a shot with the root bone thanks.

No cigar, it was worth a shot. Might need to redo the rigging and see if I made a mistake somewhere along the way.

[west magnet]

My avatar visemes aren't working in game even though theres no animations tied to them, I just uploaded it to Unity, published the test model, and the mouth just doesn't move for some reason

Theres no errors in the uploader either for the visemes

[floral token]

Make sure you put on the right viseme type

For instance viseme blend shapes are what I have to use!

[west magnet]

my setup looks like this and it dont work

its because i was missing the sil viseme...bruh

it works now nvm XD

[floral token]

Ok!! :))

Does anyone know why my physbones aren’t working AT ALL? Like not on pc not on quest! They work in unity though

[west magnet]

You might have too many?

[lilac musk]

PC doesn't have a limit though

[floral token]

I checked everything

Idk what it would be

[lilac musk]

any chance an animation is disabling them?

[floral token]

I don’t think so

I can check

[west pollen]

hii is anybody able to explain to me how to make toggles for both a texture change for the outfit's colors and a toggle for shaders ? i use a toggle creator plugin so im not sure how to make both toggles at the same time without them overlapping and breaking

[low hedge]

Hi! Today I managed to get my first avatar made for Hilda from the Netflix series of the same name (model by TipperTopHat) but I’ve run into an issue… when using the avatar, I’ve noticed that her head doesn’t look all the way down, and her hips start twisting (also she starts off way too big, that’s probably an easier fix than the rest) if there’s any solution to solving Hilda’s hip twisting issue that might connect to her unable to look all the way down, please let me know

[loud arrow]

how does this new sdk work?

it wont let me add one and when ever i do add one manuly its still there

[ornate stump]

How did you manually added when it didn't let you add one?

[loud arrow]

just add the vrc descriptor script

i fixed it by just having to restart T-T

[minor trench]

I have a multi-outfit toggle system on my avatar that running into an issue where some of individual piece toggles within each outfit trigger blendshapes, however if I toggle another outfit using the whole outfit toggle those blendshapes are still active because of the individual toggle animations from another outfit. Is there any way to have some kind of override where the active whole outfit toggle completely overrides any other toggles from other outfits?
for example. Outfit one is toggled and has a blendshape on a bodysuit to shrink the body, but Outfit 2 does not need this blendshape to be active. So, when I activate outfit 2, I want it to essentially stop any of outfit 1's toggles from enacting any of it's animations on the model whatsoever, as they conflict with outfit 2

[umbral oriole]

can you please show me your fx and oine of the animatons for the clothing toggle?

[minor trench]

Mind if I DM them? Don't really want to post screenies here

Understand completely if that isn't an option

[left wren]

i have a world constraint object that spawns behind me yet once i spawn it it gets locked in that spot regardless of it being toggled or not. how do i fix this?

[left wren]

figured it out

[arctic ginkgo]

I would recommend learning how to create toggles yourself. Once you understand the Unity animator system, you can create whatever logic you want. Sippbox's tutorials are a great place to start

[west pollen]

i was kind of asking for an explanation on how to do that yes ahaha

my mention of the plugin was just to give context on how much i Don’t know

[carmine willow]

Hello! I'm new to avatar creation and kinda messed up my avi while trying to import a new texture. Would anyone be willing to VC and help me out?

[junior void]

its rare for anyone to want to vc

your chances are better if you describe what happened and perhaps include a picture for visual

[carmine willow]

Oh, well I tried to import a texture from Blender to Unity, but I accidentally deleted the main body texture and broke the entire avi

[junior void]

deleted files go to your pc's trash folder. maybe you can restore it from there

[carmine willow]

Issue is, I don't know how to get it to show on the avatar

I'm very new to this, I just started doing avatar stuff yesterday lol

[junior void]

have you found shader settings yet

[carmine willow]

All of the YouTube videos show how to import animations from Blender to Unity

[carmine willow]

Nope

[lavish cosmos]

you first have to make a material in unity. then apply the texture to the material, then apply the material to the avatar mesh

[junior void]

essentially this^

[lavish cosmos]

In the Project tab, right click>create>material. Click the material. In the Inspector tab, drag-and-drop your texture. Then drag-and-drop the material to your avatar in the Scene

[junior void]

well, we dont know if he has materials already

it could be a pre setup avatar

so can we maybe get a picture of the inspector with materials

[lavish cosmos]

Right. Click the avatar mesh. In the inspector panel, see if it already has a material. If it does, click and expand the material in the bottom of the Inspector tab. That's where you can swap out with your new texture

[junior void]

typo in it but you get the idea

in your case obv click body if the body is messed up

[junior void]

click the body in your scene, not in the fbx of your files

[carmine willow]

This?

[junior void]

there we go

expand body material

[carmine willow]

Bro I am very stupid when it comes to this, I'm so sorry

[junior void]

i showed it in the image above

[junior void]

ok, this is where your standard color map should be in

you can take the texture from your assets and just drag and drop it there into the slot

[carmine willow]

It says I am somehow missing an armature

[ornate stump]

You should screenshot the error instead of typing it out.

[ornate stump]

Screenshot how you set the armature link component.

Somewhere on the Equality Brick

[carmine willow]

Would that be in here?

Please forgive my stupidity, I'm very bad with YouTube tutorials because I need to know exactly what to do

[carmine willow]

Would deleting it and reinstalling the brick do anything?

[ornate stump]

Unlikely.

[carmine willow]

Well crap

[ornate stump]

Did you look in the "Equality Brick" object?

[carmine willow]

What does that mean?

[ornate stump]

This object.

[carmine willow]

I am looking at all the dropdowns

[ornate stump]

What dropdown?

[carmine willow]

It's saying failed to find on avatar

[ornate stump]

Always provide screenshot instead of typing it out.

[carmine willow]

Left hand, it says the bone is missing

[ornate stump]

Rename the "Left Hand" object to "Hand_L"

[ornate stump]

When there is "1" suffix on each bone name?

[carmine willow]

Eh?

[ornate stump]

Are the bone name suppose to have "1" at the end?

[carmine willow]

I have no clue

[ornate stump]

Was the original model file have bone with "1" at the end?

[carmine willow]

Would it be bad to say I don't know again?

[ornate stump]

It would be.

It's hard to work on if you don't exactly know how your model should be.

[carmine willow]

What if

I open a new project

and import thebase again

[ornate stump]

You could just put the new fbx file into the scene.

[carmine willow]

How do I do that???

[ornate stump]

Didn't you put some model file into the scene before?

[carmine willow]

My friend who coached me just made me drag and drop stuff

Everything I've done so far has been me screwing around with all this

[ornate stump]

The bone names look fine in this model.

[carmine willow]

So, I screwed up big time?

[ornate stump]

Well I don't have the answer.

[carmine willow]

So, would it be better to just delete it all and start anew?

[ornate stump]

You may do that but I won't coach you through every step.

[carmine willow]

Did not plan on asking

[left wren]

i keep seeing this new bug that has never happened before. At some point, I become unable to select any blendshapes for visemes in the avatar descriptor. Is there a fix for this considering I've had to re-input all of the avatar descriptor data like 5 times already.

if i copy the data the new descriptor becomes broken like the old one was

[ornate stump]

Have you confirmed the blendshapes actually exist on the mesh object?

[lavish cosmos]

yeah that happened to me earlier today for the first time too. i just had to keep redoing too. wondering if there's a fix as well

[left wren]

yeah...

[ornate stump]

Does it still have drop down showing the list of blendshapes?

[left wren]

yeah it does but it wont change when i select anything

every other option of the avatar descriptor works fine

[ornate stump]

Also on unrelated issue, every viseme slot must be uniquely assigned.

[left wren]

no it doesnt?

anyway

[ornate stump]

"Uniquely" mean you shouldn't put one slot the same blendshape with other slot.

[left wren]

and why is that?

[ornate stump]

One blendshape is being controled by multiple animation that's going to conflict with each other.

[lavish cosmos]

^ this is correct. see "wiring avatar" section in this page: https://wiki.vrchat.com/wiki/Visemes

[ornate stump]

Pretty much the same reason why one animator layer should not animate the same property as the other layers.

[lavish cosmos]

typically, if blend shapes are named like this, it automatically assigns them into the corresponding slots when you select the face mesh

[left wren]

ok so, where exactly does this state that you shouldnt set them as the same? because i just read it.

[lavish cosmos]

Here:
Add blend‑shapes (shape keys) or a jaw bone. Each shapekey should be named exactly like the codes above (case‑sensitive in Unity). Keep the sil key—even if it only moves one vertex—to stop Unity deleting it on import.

[left wren]

ok but that doesnt state that you shouldnt use multiple of the same. it states that to assign them properly, to name them as such

[lavish cosmos]

but since none of the visemes are using redundant names, no blend shape names also use redundant names, implying they must be one-to-one matching

[ornate stump]

It should imply that you should use unique 15 blendshapes for each viseme. You're free if you aren't going to believe it, just test and see the result yourself.

[left wren]

i dont need to test i know this already. yes it is smoother with 15 uniquely set up keyframes. however, that does not mean you cant repeat keyframes. such is the case with viseme parameter.

i did not come here for a debate i know what im doing. i just wanted to figure out why its locking me down from changing them. its clearly a bug and like many ive found before it, i cant quite find a fix.

for now i suppose ill just redo it again. smh. such is life i suppose

[lavish cosmos]

right. it is likely a bug - happened to me earlier today too. tbh i never tested using same blend shapes in more than one slots. one-to-one matching is just what the doc says/implies and i just believed it

[left wren]

its fine, im not trying to say that what im doing is the best way. its far from it. However ive been working with quad sets and tri sets of visemes for years now.

[obsidian otter]

hey can someone help me out with my issue? its saying that my legs and ect aren't close 180, how do i fix this?

[junior void]

first image is unrelated to this

your hip bone is pointing 180 degrees in the wrong direction. you can see and fix this in blender but not in unity

it doesnt break anything (that i know of) unless you use fbt and/or try to add assets that have the hip bone exactly opposite of what you have it

[obsidian otter]

ah alright, thank you

[somber wedge]

I need help getting an avatar in-game.

[junior void]

be a bit more specific

[somber wedge]

Umm, honestly not sure how.

I'm using a windows vm, cuz i play via geforce. I just got this: https://mukumi.booth.pm/items/2357296

[lavish cosmos]

In order to upload an avatar downloaded from web, you need to use Unity

[wintry ledge]

just wanted to make sure cuz never did it,but if i wanna have 2 versions of my avi with diff outfits i can just do ctrl+D to copy the original,remove old clothes and add new ones to the copy right? and just upload it? and its gonna be like a new avi,its not gonna "update" the original?

[lavish cosmos]

Correct but remove the blueprint ID in the avatar descriptor on the new copy

[wintry ledge]

blueprint ID in avi desc? where is that 🧍

[lavish cosmos]

Click the avatar root in the hierarchy. It’s gotta be somewhere in the middle in the inspector panel

ok nvm. it's under 'Pipeline Manager'

[wintry ledge]

oo got it,so do i just remove the whole thing and detach orrr idkk

[lavish cosmos]

yeah keep the pipeline manager but just click the detach button

[wintry ledge]

also what is the whole id for,and how does it not break the avi by removing it

[lavish cosmos]

it's a unique code assigned to each individual avatar. same blueprint ID = same avatar

if you detach it and upload it, it'll create a new blueprint ID for that specific avatar

[wintry ledge]

oo itll create a new one i see,was wondering if i should somehow make a new one

[lavish cosmos]

yeah it'll generate a brand-new one for you

[wintry ledge]

thank you for the help

[lavish cosmos]

happy vrc!

[cold prawn]

Hi, I was wondering if anyone here knew what settings to use for Liltoon/Poiyomi in terms of render queue? When the lights go out in Murder 4, all the clothes just disappear and I'd like to know how to correct that. Thank you in advance! I found my answer on a JP website if anyone else has this issue! https://vrnavi.jp/vrchat-renderqueue/

[snow valve]

is anyone else having the issue of not being able to upload anything?

[distant sleet]

is there someone know why the avatar show up as a robot but in unity everthing is okay

[balmy barn]

thats waaaay over quest limits

100k might be struck down by security checks, never really tested the limits

[distant sleet]

i dont get it

what should exactly do

[stable citrus]

Plus it's not even uploaded for pc yet ?

[distant sleet]

yes upload for quest only

is that wrong?

[stable citrus]

If you only upload it to the Android platform, pc won't be able to see you

[distant sleet]

really?

[stable citrus]

Yep

[balmy barn]

yup or they will see auto generated one pixelated mess

can also upload for ios if you ever run into people using that

[distant sleet]

thats why i saw the robot ?

but i cannot even equip the avatar

[stable citrus]

Exactly

[distant sleet]

look theres no "apply" button

i cannot use it

[somber sequoia]

Yes, of course

[stable citrus]

First upload it for PC, then you can upload it for the Android using the same Blueprint ID.

[distant sleet]

ok lemme check this

[heavy ingot]

how do i fix this??

[somber sequoia]

"this"?

[heavy ingot]

do you not see the issue? lol

[somber sequoia]

assume we don't know what you're trying to do and have never seen your avatar before.

[heavy ingot]

the sweater-its not sweatering, im not sure how to explain it

[somber sequoia]

do you mean the arms are not where the body's arms are?

[heavy ingot]

yes

[somber sequoia]

Is the sweater rigged?

[heavy ingot]

i thopught it was, the listing did not state otherwise

[somber sequoia]

Does it have an armature?

[heavy ingot]

yes

[somber sequoia]

Wait, this is in Unity. How did you add this?

[heavy ingot]

unity, yes and added it to the avatr by dragging to the avatar name, i also tried attaching to the tab that says "body" as well

didnt work

[grim crescent]

Anyone able to help me make a piano visualizer? I alr have the add on n everything, I jst wanna add in a visualizer on it

[somber sequoia]

I'm assuming it doesn't have a VRCFury Armature Link component on it then? You'll need to attach it to the avatar's armature somehow, that's a decent way to do it.

[heavy ingot]

i'll try that

[wintry ledge]

help 😭

[junior void]

old vrchat sdk?

[wintry ledge]

mm,pretty sure its updated but ill double check

[ember viper]

Hey so.. how do people make their mouths / body parts move when they speak, and how do they go about making it look extremely silly (like the 500% facial expression videos of games n shit)

[heady dirge]

after creating clothes from scratch in blender and trying to put the armature link the clothes model that u can see on the image is cliping through the avatar, and its not clippin in blender, is there a way to fix it?

[somber sequoia]

you sure all transforms are applied in blender, and the armature isn't posed?

[heady dirge]

yes

[somber sequoia]

Do you have the model in blender too? I wouldn't attach this in unity with Armature Link if you do, but it's a perfectly valid choice.

[heady dirge]

i do have, but they have two different armatures

[somber sequoia]

yeah I'd use the same one.

[heady dirge]

but then i would transfer mesh data and then have to fix all the miss weighted places again?

[heady dirge]

yea?

[somber sequoia]

why would you transfer mesh data? It's already weight painted, right?

[heady dirge]

yee, but the clothes have different armature than the avatar

[somber sequoia]

so?

are they positioned differently or something?

[ember viper]

Hey Kaz do you know how i'd go about getting my mandibles on my avatar to move? (the bones in the front),

[heady dirge]

ok so how would u go bout it?

[ember viper]

when i speak ^

[somber sequoia]

go about what?

[somber sequoia]

make an animation I guess?

[heady dirge]

my objetive is to put the clothes in the avatar, in a way that it doesnt clip

[ember viper]

I meant when i speak :( sorry i forgot to put it in there

[somber sequoia]

I'd use the avatar's armature for the clothing also. If it's already weight painted, then you shouldn't have to do much beyond touch it up for any clipping you find when posing the body and clothing.

[heady dirge]

as u can see the model doesnt move with the clothes armature

[somber sequoia]

Right so again, have the clothing use the avatar's armature instead of its own.

[heady dirge]

how do i do that?

delete the clothes armature?

[somber sequoia]

Change which armature is used in the clothing's Armature modifier. You'll need to rename vertex groups in the clothing mesh object so they match the names of the avatar's bones. if that wasn't already done.

[heady dirge]

ok done

now how would u export it?

[somber sequoia]

Personally I export my avatars with the body and all clothing together in one .fbx, usually merging down to one mesh object for the body and one for the whole set of clothes.
If you want this to be separate for some reason, export just the armature and mesh object, then you can use Armature Link. But I don't - my way doesn't require linking, it's already linked.

[heady dirge]

well the model is not mine, the other clothes are just separated

so i decided to also add it to armature

link

[somber sequoia]

Sure, that can work.

[heady dirge]

it didnt work

[somber sequoia]

what didn't

[heady dirge]

i will try importin the whole model

[vagrant dock]

i want the shirt to follow the armature new rest pose position

[heady dirge]

clothe still clippin

[somber sequoia]

did you check that in blender though?

[heady dirge]

its not clipping

[somber sequoia]

Did you actually pose it around to verify?

do you have the same shape keys applied in unity as you do in blender?

[somber sequoia]

so "yes"?

[heady dirge]

its clippin

only in unity

[vagrant dock]

how i fix this i want the shirt to be in a t pose

[somber sequoia]

if it's rigged, pose the rig then apply the armature modifier

[heady dirge]

no i dont have the same shapekeys, how do i put that on the clothes

[somber sequoia]

if not.... I'd probably rig it first.

[vagrant dock]

it alr rigged but it aint following the new rest pose mode

[somber sequoia]

... do you mean how do you make shape keys? I'll just direct you to a blender tutorial for that one

[heady dirge]

no i mean, do i need the models exact blendshapes on the clothes? i mean how do i transfer it?

[somber sequoia]

not what I meant - I meant if you have shape keys active on the body in Unity, you should set the same ones in Blender and see if the clothing clips. If it does, then you may have to create similar shape keys on the clothing.

[tidal void]

How does one merge two FX Controllers?

[somber sequoia]

obviously depends on your model.

[somber sequoia]

VRLabs has a tool that can help with this, Avatars 3.0 manager

[craggy plaza]

I don't know if my input helps here, but I build all my outfits like this. The Outfit has its own Armature and I merge in using ModulaAvatar. That allows me to be "modular" and build new outfits really fast.
The important thing is make sure the bones are identical in size and rotation otherwise you will see a lot of clipping on the joints.

[heady dirge]

ok thks i will see what i can do

[wise trench]

does anyone know how to set up and make a Animal avatar? im trying to make my Wildmutt

https://tenor.com/view/wildmutt-ben-10-jump-gif-4509146396515499122

but i dont know how to make a avatar that work with 4 legs and no arms

[night ember]

Constraints

[somber sequoia]

There's a whole discord for that too, the tag is 'Limbs'

[wise trench]

wym?

[somber sequoia]

the bit after the hostname in the invite.

[vagrant dock]

i think i need to move the clothes from the armatur it came with to the base armature

[heady dirge]

after exporting my avatar to unity it just bugged down like this, how to fix this?

[main remnant]

Why does the arrow get distorted on Unity? It's the same animation, done in Blender imported to Unity

[balmy barn]

if you put something under a gameobject with a different scaling it can warp wierdly when rotated , keep it 1.1.1

[harsh hedge]

i'm trying to change the size of my tight, but when i scale my upperleg bone it moves my all leg

am i doing it wrong ? is there another way of doing that ?

[somber sequoia]

"tight"?

[gaunt knoll]

tights?????

[harsh hedge]

thigh

xd

[gaunt knoll]

aaaaa

they we are

[harsh hedge]

i'm learning english AND blender at the same time

[night ember]

edit the mesh not the bone

[ember viper]

Does anyone know how to make different parts of your avatar move / get bigger when you speak?

[harsh hedge]

Are my normals correct?

[arctic ginkgo]

looks fine to me

are you having an issue with the normals?

[harsh hedge]

in unity yes

[arctic ginkgo]

do you have normals set to "import" or "calculate"?

[harsh hedge]

import

[arctic ginkgo]

you could try changing it to calculate, but I assume you have custom normals

[arctic ginkgo]

is this only an issue with blendshapes?

[harsh hedge]

blendshape can mess with normals ?

[arctic ginkgo]

yes

[harsh hedge]

should i remove them ?

[arctic ginkgo]

Oh, I mean when you enable blendshapes it can change the normals

if you set all blendshapes to 0, is there still an issue?

[harsh hedge]

yes

[arctic ginkgo]

honestly I'm not sure what the issue is, I'm sorry :(

[queen badge]

can someone who has great experience in making avis and toggles hop in a call with me? i need help

[ember viper]

anyone? d:Dc

[atomic depot]

You can create an animation for the movement/size, and then add a Float parameter called "Voice" and use that as a Motion Time parameter for your animation

[ember viper]

i see i see

[atomic depot]

Does anyone know if "Transforms To Ignore" include child objects in the VRC Imposter Settings?

[ember viper]

how do i do this? I've been looking for the FX layer thingy with the voice float whatsadoodadthingymobibble and I can't seem to find the menu or where i'm meant to do all this

i made the animation though

oh shit i foudn it i thinks

nvm!

[magic nebula]

this avatar I have has a a mini map and I was just wondering how this is achieved? it's able to pick up players and the world. I have quite a bit of unity knowledge so idm if it's a complicated answer 🙂

[lilac musk]

Some of the things people come up with are so incredible. If I were to guess, a mix of a camera with a specific layer setting along with some shader magic.

[gaunt knoll]

https://ikeiwa.gumroad.com/?recommended_by=library&_gl=1*12cal6p*_ga*MTQ5MDExOTc4OC4xNzY1MTY1MjI2*_ga_6LJN6D94N6*czE3NjYyODA4MTgkbzIyJGcxJHQxNzY2MjgwODMxJGo0NyRsMCRoMA..

the guy who made it hes really nice and he will talk to you how he made it

[torn mesa]

Hi there! I'm trying to attach a head to a model in blender, but when I merge the armatures, it pops up with an error message saying this: (See error message image) So then, if I click "Apply Transforms" It randomly adds one that connects the head to the elbow... what should I do here?

[vagrant dock]

you can even capture real time, this is compelx codfing and it need to acces world

[somber sequoia]

animate blendshapes or whatever using the Viseme or Volume parameters

[vagrant dock]

im sure no one wont see this

it aint my model i made so i aint stressing

[somber sequoia]

You should likely apply all transforms to all the objects before trying to do this merging. I don't know what that merge function you're using is though

[ember viper]

i uh

used the FX stuff instead

;p

since it was just two lil mandibles doing an animation wasn't too bad once i figured it out

[somber sequoia]

no idea what that means but hey, cool

[ember viper]

uhhh

there is like a FX layer thing with a node editor under your avatar desc

[somber sequoia]

Yes that's what I mean, the FX animation controller.

[ember viper]

i don't know how to really explain it since i still don't know jack shit, but i know how to setup voice stuff now :D

[heavy ingot]

Face for ichigo is missing a portion, is it possible to delete this fsce expression from the model?

[lavish cosmos]

Set its shader to transparent not opaque. Or yeah you can delete it

[heavy ingot]

Ur awesome thanks boo

[stray trench]

this avi is usasaki and i got this asset that said its for mamefriends, isn't this way too small or is usasaki a different size?

[errant oriole]

Hallo everyone! Just comin' to ask if there's a way to override the loss of tracking when enabling AFK mode. I'm building my own system that involves managing being AFK, is there a way to keep track of the user's arms, or not break the head position on desktop for instance?

[gaunt knoll]

yeah you can change the value is the fx

[pallid drift]

im too lazy to figure this out on my own, how do i fix my torso glowing orange?

[grave wasp]

hey, i have been playing vrc for a bit on my quest 2, i just started playing on my pc and have just started building avitars, but i have a different account on my pc and i am only a visitor, is there any way to speed up to user rank for free so i can post my avitar?

[somber sequoia]

buy a month of VRC+

oh but you said free

[grave wasp]

If i have to i might, but I'm trying to avoid it

[heavy zephyr]

Merge the two accounts

[grave wasp]

Didn't know you could do that, thanks

[heavy zephyr]

Looks like this on the website

[pallid drift]

this doesnt happen on quest btw, just pc

[grave wasp]

Again thanks

[uneven whale]

Guys. Is it possible to replace a minimally edited FBX model in a finished project? I have a ton of settings set up using vrcfury and I don't want to redo it all.

[lavish cosmos]

yes. import the new fbx into the project. click the old gameobject that has the old fbx in the hierarchy. in the skinned mesh renderer component in the inspector, you can swap out with the new fbx mesh

[shrewd path]

Any way I can get rid of those black spots?

[somber sequoia]

Note that if you unpacked the avatar prefab this isn't going to work

[somber sequoia]

I'm guessing it's meant for a shader with transparency... but if you can't use one (such as you're on quest), you'll have to bring this into Blender and cut out the mesh. There are tutorials for both.

[torn mesa]

How do I fit clothing to my avatar? i have a full outfit but it's stuck in a tpose while my avatar is moving correctly

[tropic sierra]

How can I fix this ?

[lavish cosmos]

you have two options. you can link the armature bones from clothing to your avatar armature manually. or, use VRCFury or Modular Avatar. This way, it's non-destructive and your hierarchy will be clean.

[torn mesa]

How do I go about using vrc fury to attach the clothing armature to the model's armature?

[lavish cosmos]

use VRCF Amature Link component. Uncheck all transform alignment checkboxes

i'm assuming your clothing is rigged specially for your avatar body base, matching all bone names btw

[torn mesa]

thank you! i just dont see the transform alignment boxes lol

[lavish cosmos]

oh it's hidden under advanced options

[torn mesa]

ahhhh

thank you so much!

[severe crown]

Not sure what this means

[lavish cosmos]

go to the gameobject in the message. remove VRCF Fix Write Defaults component from it. If you need it you can only add it to the avatar root object

[severe crown]

Would it mess with the toggle?

[lavish cosmos]

it may. i suggest moving it to the avatar root

[severe crown]

Or break anything in the avatar?

[severe crown]

What does that mean

Are you okay with hopping into a vc?

I’m still confused on this

😭😭

[lavish cosmos]

remove the component from the pants. add the same component in the avatar root. set it to "auto"

[severe crown]

Oh wait there’s no vc here nvm

[torn mesa]

I just tested the avi in vrc, and the clothes are still stuck in a tpose ;-; not sure what im doing wronggg lol

[lavish cosmos]

what is the first one you see when you expand Armature under the clothing? it should be usually 'Hips'. Do you see it?

[torn mesa]

yup! its hips

[lavish cosmos]

scroll down to the botoom. click add component

[torn mesa]

got it

[lavish cosmos]

drag and drop THAT hip to 'Link From' slot in the vrcf armature link component

And set 'Link To (Avatar)' to Hips

[lavish cosmos]

it's not called Toggle. Search Fix Write Defaults

[torn mesa]

Gotcha, I added the component onto the clothing instead of onto the hips of the model lol

[severe crown]

I removed the top the orginal

And have it as auto

[lavish cosmos]

no. the component should be in the clothing root. actually im not even sure if it even matters

[severe crown]

It still didn’t work

[lavish cosmos]

wait youre still on the pants object i think. it should only be added to the avatar root
avatar root is where you have vrc avatar descripter and stuffs

[torn mesa]

oh-

ohh wait i understand

i fixed it

so will that will fix the tpose?

[severe crown]

Where would I find that

Oh-

[lavish cosmos]

uhh the root of the avatar?

very top

[lavish cosmos]

hopefully. im still assuming the clothing was made with your avatar base in mind. avatar bone names are different for different avatars

[severe crown]

Just to double check remove the fix defaults in the pants right

[lavish cosmos]

yes. im literally just reciting the error message

[severe crown]

There’s a fix write defaults in the avatar descriptor

[lavish cosmos]

ok so it looks like you had two of them then. one in the avatar root and another one in the pants

[severe crown]

So I only need one?

[lavish cosmos]

yes

[torn mesa]

It wasn't made for the avatars base :( and its still stuck in the tpose..

[lavish cosmos]

ah that means it's not rigged for your avatar base. typically, if the bone sizes/positions are roughly the same, you may try renaming the cloth bones so that they match with your avatar bones. but it won't work perfectly. you're gonna have to rig the clothing to your avatar base in Blender

[severe crown]

Tried uploading gave me the same error

Wait

It gave me a different one

[torn mesa]

oof... how do I rig it to the base?.. I already went into blender and edited the outfit earlier so it would fit the model but I didnt rig anything

[lavish cosmos]

right. editing mesh is not enough. uhh it's not going to be easy for beginners. i'm afraid i won't be able to help you with it but there are many tutorials on youtube. i learned it from there too

[severe crown]

Okay so it gave me a different it gave me a error for direct tree optimizer and the blendshapes so I delete all three on the pants but now it’s back to saying the fix defaults

[torn mesa]

alrighty, sounds good :) thank you for your help!

[lavish cosmos]

so it's the exact same message as earlier? fix write defaults component found in your pants object?

[severe crown]

It ended up being on the skirt and pants so I deleted them all and removed them

Now I have this

[lavish cosmos]

did you add all these components yourself? it looks like you have so many redundant components everywhere and/or components in wrong objects

[severe crown]

No

I bought the avatar

[lavish cosmos]

you probably have to track them down one by one. it means exactly what the error says

[severe crown]

Gotcha

I’ll
Come back if I run into anything new

[lavish cosmos]

yeah if your avatar was delivered like this, it's poorly made, im afraid

good luck!

[severe crown]

Found the source of the problem

So the creator out the projects together in one

Under the main FT

This is a opti version with multiple versions of the opti to upload

That is why there is multiple

Multiple Avis together but different opti versions

[tulip cargo]

trying to make an avatar but the arms appear bent even though my arms in real life are straight down, anyone know what might be causing this? thanks!

[tulip cargo]

the arms are straight, yeah, i could also just try clearing the roll on the bones, could that work?

ok! ill be sure to try it out in a moment and let you know

[severe crown]

Anyone with face tracking I’m having issues with a avatar I have to corrects stuff in my project but in vr it’s not working and when I toggle the face tracking on it just keeps my avatars eyes closed and doesn’t track my face at all

[foggy wadi]

Hello people, Grandma is confused and clueless. Any idea why when i move these holographic effects in unity nothing happens in game and it's stuck as a T-pose.

Okay. Taking a break and then we're gonna give it another shot. Thank you for your knowledge.

[severe crown]

help

Yeah here please

Do you know about face tracking

already tested it wit another avatr its thwe avatr im having sisues with my ahrdware is fine

avatar does support face tracking

also im not sure where to go to checkw aht you said

Making a entire new project just for the avatar gonn reuoad see if it’s a set up issue

[tulip cargo]

still getting the same issue, this is what the humanoid definition looks like, im not sure what im doing wrong here

so what should i do ?

[vapid relic]

so I used to have a screenshot of a easier way to set this up but I lost it but does anyone have a easy way of setting up warhammer particle effect thing? like if I turn on UI it does Ice effect per say from the particles tab

like a screenshot for it I can go saving?

[vapid relic]

do you know what Im talking about?

[tulip cargo]

everything is all setup properly, still the same issue.

[bold glacier]

my avatar wont upload for quest despite being at the quest limit im sure. it just 'fails security checks'. all textures are lowered to under 512, shes approx 184k and has a small amount of physbones and the blendshape optimiser. please lmk if u can help! ive converted bigger avis and theyve had more and worked so im just confused

[glass solar]

for some reason unity scrambled the elements aka material slots when importing

does anyone know how to fix that?

[bold glacier]

wdym scrambled

like did it make materials blank or remove them or add new ones??

[glass solar]

like it swapped them around

it wont play the meh enimation on clothes 6 (aka the main face mat)

and the hat dissapears when i try to fix it

the face is set on the third slot

but in unity its set on the 4th slot

and its mainly these teo that unity likes to swap them

it keeps putting the hat material INTO the bottom

[timber wharf]

@bold glacier since you have blendshape optimiser, you have vrcf, are you sure youre checking stats in playmode? also 184k is legit bad

[bold glacier]

i got it working. also its not 'legit bad'. u havent even seen it 😭

[manic wharf]

Dose anyone know what's wrong with my scene
Im new to unity kinda

It won't let me click on my avi or edit it all it dose it let me zoom in, I cant turn either. Amd when I do zoom in its pixlated

[ebon hull]

Is it possible to use bone transform (rotation ) as a parameter?

[ebon hull]

on the top tab you have game.Right click and add"scene"

[timber wharf]

@ebon hull no, only by placing proximity contact

[stray trench]

any help with this? scaling it up does not align it, will i just need to take this to blender?

[ebon hull]

Thats what i though. Thanks

[ebon hull]

Check both scales. Your model and asset, and all things that are higher in hierarchy. If all of them are "1" then it will not match in a simple way. You need to scale it manually i think.

[stray trench]

yeah its all 1

so whatd the process be for resizing this in blender? id need to resize every mesh in the outfit independently?

[lavish cosmos]

you can select multiple objects then scale them all simultaneously

[stray trench]

then it wouldnt line up

[ebon hull]

you can resize it in unity, by resizing its armature

[lavish cosmos]

depends on where the pivot point is

[stray trench]

yes but thats the issue, scaling it up makes it not line up

so every mesh needs to be moved a bit and resized a different amount

[lavish cosmos]

ah i see. youre right. gonna have to move them independently. but it's already close match. i would sculp them with Grab instead

[stray trench]

i shouldnt just avoid sculpting entirely and move each mesh around a little bit?

[lavish cosmos]

either way is fine. i mix them - both moving the meshes and sculpting them

[stray trench]

okay, thank you so much

[lavish cosmos]

when moving vertices, i recommend enabling proportional editing

[stray trench]

im not sure where that is, ill look it up

ty for the tip

[vapid oar]

How do you make poiyomi's outline affect different areas with different colors on the same material?

Saw some stuff about vertex paint so im assuming thats the only way

[ornate stump]

It's the Outline Texture.

[vapid oar]

Alright ill look up how to get that to work, seems crazy how a texture like that would change the outline

[ornate stump]

Outline is just extruded-flipped faces of a mesh. So the uv coordinate would be the same as the mesh itself.

[vapid oar]

Oh okay so

I could just retexture the model in pure flat color and it would just use that, as the colors

[ornate stump]

If you want to match with main texture color anyway, you could just increase MainTex Blend slider.

[vapid oar]

What I think I want to do is have the outline the same "color'

Nvm that doesnt make sense lmao, i want it a the same just darker pretty much

So ill prolly just retexture just slightly darker

No details ofc

Also i tried testing the same texture as i have for the character, but the outline is still being controlled by the color in the outlines tab

[ornate stump]

If it's just darker then you could still use MainTex blend and darker outline color.

[vapid oar]

Oh alright

[vapid oar]

Nvm this is wrong im not sure what its doing lmao

[vapid oar]

Is there any changes I need to make to the tiling settings of the outline texture

From standard

[ornate stump]

The ＞ button in front of texure slot.

[vapid oar]

Yea but anything inside of there I should change? I think i got it to work by putting the X axis of tiling to 10000 lmao

Now its following the color better

[ornate stump]

You wanted to change tiling, so set tiling number.

[vapid oar]

Yeah ive changed it to an absurd number and its matching the colors now

Dont know why but its good enough for me

Thanks for the help

[stray trench]

i finished resizing and sculpting the meshes in blender and now it looks like the picture on the left? not sure what causes this

on the right is how it looks in blender and unity, on the left is how it looks when i test it in unity

something to do with the armature?

[ornate stump]

Did you actually test in pose model after sculpting?

[stray trench]

in blender? no, ill do it now

[ornate stump]

When you sculpted, vertex changed position, so you might have to fix weight painting as well.

[stray trench]

fuuuuuck i really dont wanna do that

i might just let it go then

[junior void]

you can try to copy vertex groups from the body

[stray trench]

thatd be a lifesaver, thank you

[harsh hedge]

any idea how to get ride of this line?

[proven quail]

Outline mask

Color the parts on that area black on the mask and use white for everywhere else you want the outline to be.

[polar pulsar]

i don't have screenshots right now, but, i'm trying to make a png avatar with a plane, i rotate the plane so it looks like it stands still, but when i enter vrchat and use the avatar the image is on the ground, anyone knows why this happens?

[somber sequoia]

Are the body and head separate mesh objects? I'd merge them, personally.

[harsh hedge]

yes they are

[somber sequoia]

outline shaders will outline mesh edges just like that one

[slate otter]

Is there a place where I can ask for someone to rig and help upload an avatar for me?? I don't really have a working PC to do it and I have no clue how to even rig shit

[somber sequoia]

go to VRC Traders to commission people, link is in #1204490664637890580 . You'll get scammers dming you around here.

[slate otter]

So does this count as a scammer or nah?? I jit cannot tell

This was literally two minutes after I sent that message

[somber sequoia]

most likely then

[finite portal]

Most definitely

[wise swan]

i dont make avatar or uploads its was a typo error
i wanted to recommend you to my creator

[somber sequoia]

Really suspicious way of doing that, just like scammers do.

[slate otter]

Yeah..and plus since you've only recently made your discord account also makes it even more suspicious

[wise swan]

ohh i dont kow

My BAD

[slate otter]

Rq for the VRC Traders, where do I put that I need help uploading?? Cause I ain't got money rn to pay someone

[wise swan]

search for it in the search bar
it will pop up

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea, I've never been there. But good luck finding someone willing to work for free.

[slate otter]

I already got the server

:/

[wise swan]

Good

[fast storm]

why is my impostor like this?

[somber sequoia]

Looks like flipped face normals

[fast storm]

happens with other outfit

[balmy barn]

too old sdk , wich the other things likely would need a update for

pretty sure i know where you got this av from

[somber sequoia]

what do you mean links? All of that is trivially easy to search for VPM repositories for, and you can install via VCC or Alcom.

[balmy barn]

they using a certain webpage and dont know its a paid model ,look familiar ? its a Avmbz model

[mortal knoll]

you already know i need help

[somber sequoia]

as it says, some stuff is missing. you'll have to install or find it

[mortal knoll]

hm

okay lemme try

i try to import the rest but it wont let me

[mortal knoll]

so where should i find these

[karmic prism]

How do I make it so I don't have to log back into the sdk every single time I open a new project?

[somber sequoia]

did you try just a web search? they should all be very easy to find

[mortal knoll]

sry

im stupid

i checked and everything is imported

[frail vessel]

okay so i just bought this avatar and im trying to upload it and for some reason it has a bunch of errors

[timber wharf]

are you out of prefab edit mode?

[frail vessel]

prefab edit mode?

like when you go into an asset for example and the hiearchy turns to a different gray

[timber wharf]

ye and 3d preview has blue background

[frail vessel]

yeahh, im not in that

just the normal screen when you upload everything

[somber sequoia]

is that a really old Poiyomi package?

[frail vessel]

i dont think so, im using the one i downloaded like a month ago i think? it works on all my other projects

[somber sequoia]

usually this is where you go check 🙂

[frail vessel]

poi_Toon_7.3.50_UpTo_9.2.79

[somber sequoia]

yep, that's pretty current

[frail vessel]

i just copy and pasted the file name lol

yeaaa

[gentle gyro]

hey how do i make moist skin material?

i need it

[torpid bolt]

anybody know how to get their avi to upload with specific clothes toggled? kinda like a default look? like how here it automatically has the sweater with the pajama set on :<

[main remnant]

I think it shows whatever assets are enabled on Unity when you upload the avatar

[torpid bolt]

enabled? like with the eye icon that hides the assets or with the box that hides them?

[gentle gyro]

i need help

someone give me a normal map or shader that simulates moist skin

[somber sequoia]

eye only hides in Unity, doesn't do anything for in game or play mode.

[vagrant dock]

im struggling to weight paint my kitbash avatar. body keeps clipping through clothes

[stable citrus]

Change the parameters state if some of them are enabled/disabled with a toggle and check that the clothes you want to be visible are enabled too

[frosty stone]

yo, i need some help

[main remnant]

This here

[frosty stone]

I'm making a png avatar right. and it only supports pc. how to i change it so it supports vr

[somber sequoia]

yeah it can be a challenge sometimes

[vagrant dock]

where should i adjust for the shoulder tearing

[proven quail]

Avatars can be PC, Quest, or iOS. What do you mean by VR?

[karmic prism]

This has been resolved in the creator companion channel

[somber sequoia]

don't be afraid to move the mesh further from the body, or to retopolgize the mesh

[vagrant dock]

ok then

[gloomy wren]

Hello,

I wanted to know if there's an easy way or tips to do with the Animator on Unity.

I want to add a toogle on my avatar that can switch the face animation based on my Hand Gesture

For exemple, in my Righ Hand Gesture Layer, i want to input a bool condition for all of my Transition "SwitchAnim".
But i want to know if there's a way i can do it One time for all the transition and not repeating for each transition => add conditon => select parameter "SwitchAnime" => Set it to false etc...

is there any video or tips i can get to optimise my animator and help me to work on it faster ?

[somber sequoia]

repeating?

oh

yeah you have to go do them all separately, unless you write some code

[gloomy wren]

yeah like going each transition, add a conditons and reapeat for every animation

oh i see

[somber sequoia]

you can select all the transitions and have them show up in the inspector at the same time but can't really work on multiple

which is a little weird, lots of other things in Unity you can edit as a group

[gloomy wren]

yeah i wanted to try something else. i tried to do another layer that will handle the switch condtion and copy the value of the righthand gesture if my paramater is true or false

but it does weird thing like doing my animation in loop

[somber sequoia]

it'll loop if you're using AnyState and have "can transition to self" checked on - you probably want that off most of the time

[gloomy wren]

i was thinking also of creating a empty state alone to get the condition if it's switched or not and then link it to the animation

[gloomy wren]

it does stop looping but don't actualise my values of my hand gesture

animator is such a pain to use when it's getting complexe... i better do coding instead

[somber sequoia]

there's an "animator as code" package somewhere, I think I tried it once

[gloomy wren]

i will look for it !

[vagrant dock]

welp im cooked no mater what adjustment i make

the avtar be clipping still

i added some loopcuts but i cant add loop cups for everythinbg

[lapis wedge]

heyo, apologies if this is not the correct place to ask, but wondering if anyone knows how to configure a default avatar state using these VRCFury toggles.

In this case, different shoes are controlled by toggles in-game via the radial menu, I wanted to change which one is set as the default state, but unsure how to.

[main remnant]

I don't really know how to do toggles with VRC Fury. However you can do this by editing the blend tree that I'm guessing VRC Fury created by itself

[somber sequoia]

Is it not just a matter of setting the default state of the parameter in the avatar parameters list?

[lapis wedge]

you're right, it's under the little options tab on the component

[somber sequoia]

oh, I wasn't thinking there I guess, but glad you found it

(I've never used this component)

[lapis wedge]

it doesn't reflect on the mesh in the unity environment, but when loading a preview using Gesture Manager, it does seem to take effect, so I think it works?

[main remnant]

Should, yup

[thick oasis]

I keep getting this error every time I open the CC now... before, Unity would crash after a few seconds but I could still get in and open the project, but now I can't even open it at all.

[somber sequoia]

there's #creator-companion

[thick oasis]

Thanks

[grave heart]

hi! i bought an avatar and it works fine, but i added an asset that ive used on other avatars but on this one its not working. It has its own parameter settings and toggle menu, those are fine, but the items dont actually turn on in game despite being visible on unity, if that makes sense.
does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?

genuinely just out of ideas

[heavy ingot]

how do i set the hair set to revert to the default and fade the asset name as above?

[somber sequoia]

faded means the object is disabled - checkbox in the upper left of the inspector

[heavy ingot]

thanks omg

[whole sigil]

Is there any way to have a phys bones ignore transformation NOT extend to the ignored bone's children?

[night ember]

thats not how hierarchies work

[whole sigil]

I know 😭

the tradegies of trying to optimize a physbone that runs through two non optimized physbones

VRChat I beg of you give me more than 8 physbones for good rank, you fixed them already 🫠

[grave heart]

sorry to overtake ><
forgot to add pictures...
everything is visible on unity, its just not showing up when the toggles are on, or off, on vrchat.
ive checked with my camera to see if theyre just not attached to the avatar, but thats not the case either. they just don't show up

[main remnant]

I'm guessing the second picture is not on play mode. The asset is there but there is some logic that disables it I'm guessing. Your menu toggle is just not enabling it, again, I'm guessing

[grave heart]

that is correct, the second picture is not on play mode.

do you know any way to fix it?

[main remnant]

To properly program the toggle

[grave heart]

its from a menu and parameter that are premade, i dont know how to reprogram them :,)

its worked on other avatars which is why im so confused by all this

[main remnant]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqtSg6_W07Y

Maybe that's not your issue. I don't know. I'm just guessing, can't do more than that

[grave heart]

ill keep trying things, thank you for tyring to help, i super appreciate it :)

[low hedge]

I’m still having issues with the hip bones… should I add a ‘constraint’ to it, and if so, how so?

[grave heart]

we fixed it!! reuploaded it entirely using a different unity file and everything :)

[plain lava]

Is it possible to invert the normal texture to look like the original one I don’t have the texture for some reason

[balmy lotus]

keep getting these errors when trying to upload and im not sure what to do, ive updated vrchat creator companion so shouldnt it update the sdk?

[odd inlet]

what does this mean 😔

[somber sequoia]

it won't unless you tell it to

[balmy lotus]

how do i command the beast

[somber sequoia]

older poiyomi? you might try reinstalling

[somber sequoia]

what, VCC? I don't use it, but there should be a "manage project" thing there where you can pick the SDK version

[balmy lotus]

ahhh yes

thank you

[odd inlet]

ah, the project im doing had the poiyomi come with the unity package itself

im new to all of this 💔

[somber sequoia]

people shouldn't do that. You should probably delete that _Poiyomi folder and install a new one, unless you're sure it needs some old version like 7

[odd inlet]

okay!!

[lavish cosmos]

Modular avatar. Physbone blocker https://modular-avatar.nadena.dev/docs/reference/physbone-blocker

[hot heron]

Hello! I could use some help. My avatar has a ton of toggleable parts, but when I try setting them up for the in-game, they don't toggle! Please help!

The wings, chest/overall body and clothes are especially problematic.

[vapid relic]

Ok so I need help from probably a warhammer avatr creator. What I am needin is a list of what stuff to turn off on the particles so it doesnt do every single effect in the warhammer worlds. I used to have a screenshot of a list hut I do not anymore. If any warhammer avatar creator can help me that would be very much aporeciated!

[left gull]

where are the parts you're trying to toggle? they dont seem to be part of the base mesh unless you're using blendshapes to hide them

[hot heron]

I have the options visible in the right panel. (3rd SS)

When I'm in the editor (unity) I can slide them just fine. (Gonna SS with wings for reference.)

[lilac musk]

Blendshapes/shapekeys

[hot heron]

Oops forgot the prop panel

[hot heron]

Where do I find the shapekeys? I'm looking and just can't find it.

[lilac musk]

I was just saying what those are so Lilpimpen could see. The sliders under a skinned mesh render are called blendshapes. Another name for them is shapekeys. Wasn't directly telling you how to fix your situation as I'm lost as to what your asking.

[hot heron]

Ohh okay, ty! My question was how to get the accessories/avatar features that AREN'T adjusting on the in-game editor or test editor, ie. unity, but are showing up on the sliders/unity.

[somber sequoia]

literally on your screen there, the sliders on the right

[hot heron]

Like, not all of them are appearing.

[somber sequoia]

they don't "show" in game unless you make an animation and wheel menu control for them

[hot heron]

There is one, it just isn't toggling on the wheel.

That's what I'm trying to explain.

[somber sequoia]

ah, then you'll have to debug the animation that runs it

[hot heron]

How do I do that?

[somber sequoia]

play mode with gesture manager or avatars 3.0 emulator, watch the animation while you toggle it, see what it does. or doesn't.

[hot heron]

Okay

The only things appearing I'll SS.

Okay I SS'ed the ones that DONT Appear are selected. (ALL Horns & head accessories are missing. And Clothes.)
EDIT - ALL Ears are also untoggleable on the wheel, but work fine in the unity

[still bluff]

heyy Im trying to do an animation for texture swap but I keep getting this. I need some help! Any advice or tips?

or different methods?

[still thunder]

is there any way to have rotation on spring joints? like take for instance, a crown on an avatars head. when the head rotates, i want the crown to rotate with the head

[ocean vault]

when i hit edit on vrc avatar descipter i cant see the view position ball

[lilac musk]

Make sure gizmos are enabled

[ocean vault]

also my guy already has his textures for some reason but i have worked on this avatar before

worked

[hot heron]

Is anyone able to help with this?

[somber sequoia]

can't really see anything useful from your images, you need to look at how the animations are done

[hot heron]

Okay, where would I go?

Like, do you need the parameters?

[somber sequoia]

#avatar-help message

go to the animator, do that ^

[hot heron]

Okay

I already did this.

[somber sequoia]

then you know what's wrong?

[hot heron]

These ss's are of what DON'T toggle correctly.

[hot heron]

Not at all.

[hot heron]

My problem is idk how to make them actually appear/toggle ON/OFF like they're supposed to.

^ Like, on the wheel, not the sliders.

[somber sequoia]

wheel activates an avatar parameter, parameters are used in the animator in transitions from one state to another

[hot heron]

Yes, but the Parameters aren't activating, for some reason.

Or at least some of them aren't.

[somber sequoia]

you do the wheel stuff and the parameters do not change? that's strange.

[hot heron]

Correct.

[somber sequoia]

make sure the right parameters are specified.

[hot heron]

I have, they are from what I've seen.

[still thunder]

is it possible to lock an objects rotation to the rotation of another, but in terms of world rotation rather than local?

[hot heron]

I'll double check.

[somber sequoia]

Rotation constraint without "local" checked

[hot heron]

Latest SS's of wings for example of one of the parameters that fully don't toggle.

[carmine willow]

Y'all, I cannot open this asset and I have no clue how to fix it or what to screenshot

[still thunder]

unfortunately does not seem to work when it comes to a spring joint

[somber sequoia]

oh, yeah I don't think that works

[still thunder]

is there no way to have rotation on a spring joint without it just rotating infinitely?

[somber sequoia]

there's a whole bunch of settings on those, axis, damper, etc. - these don't work?

[still thunder]

damper doesnt seem to prevent rotation at all

no settings that i can see of for axis stuff

theres this stuff but i dont want to free the rotation completely

[carmine willow]

Anyone willing to help a new avatar creator?

[somber sequoia]

that's what this channel is for

[carmine willow]

Well yeah, but I didn't know if y'all were busy or something

But umm, when I try and upload my avi to the SDK it does this and idk how to stop it

[somber sequoia]

hah, I love how it tells you files are missing, but doesn't list the files.

[gloomy notch]

Not sure if this could be a vrchat avatar

[hot heron]

I have a feeling I'm just being ignored at this point. Just gonna give up.

[somber sequoia]

maybe click on that top error, see if the detailed view shows anything

[somber sequoia]

anything could be if you want it to.

[somber sequoia]

you happen to be working on a thing that nobody here can really help you with since we don't have your project to dig into.

[gloomy notch]

Yeah I just don't know how to make it as an avatar

[carmine willow]

Oh wow, this is a lot

[somber sequoia]

Looks like you need to install the face tracking prefabs.

[hot heron]

Ah. Sorry for wasting y'alls time then. Have a good day/night.

[carmine willow]

How do I do that?

[somber sequoia]

http://docs.vrcft.io

[carmine willow]

Is there a way that I can get it to not have to download it, or is it gonna end up being required anyways?

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what you have on your avatar, I was just reading your error message.

some VRCFury component on your avatar requires that package.

[carmine willow]

Ah, well shucks

[somber sequoia]

if you don't use face tracking you can probably remove it

[main remnant]

As far as I can tell on that first image, the logic is wrong. If you're going to toggle with the radialpuppet as far as I know you want to use a blend tree

[somber sequoia]

you don't exactly have to use a blendtree

[main remnant]

Okay. I'm really new and that's what I've seen and what I've been doing. I don't really know how that logic on the image can work for it ngl

[somber sequoia]

yeah we haven't seen any of the transition conditions, so who knows at this point

[sullen nacelle]

is there any way to make limbs of avatars grabbable and still being able to be controlled if you move set arm or leg? cause i do have a mode with seperated limbs and i wanted to make it so u can grab each limb and place them anywhere but idk how

[hot grotto]

Why does gogoloco break my avatars legs?

[ocean vault]

When ever i try to update my avatar it says "This File was already uploaded" but when i check in vrc its still the old version

i cant even save my changes

btw im using vrc fury's blendshape optimizer but idk how that could affect this

the console just says the same thing

[plain lava]

Anyway I could get the correct texture it didn’t have the texture id for some reason

[somber sequoia]

correct texture?

[plain lava]

Yea it only gave me these and not the one I wanted

[somber sequoia]

left one looks like a normal map, right one is some sort of map, possibly metallic/roughness

[plain lava]

Is it possible to make the normal map into the right texture with enough tweaking?

[somber sequoia]

that's not really how it works, the normal map doesn't have any information that is in the other one

[plain lava]

Ohhh alr

Might just have to make it myself because for whatever reason it didn’t have a texture id

[umbral oriole]

this is ver easily do able there is already a popular wolf guy fury base that would fit only needs texture work and to get the clothes

[torpid bolt]

okay so i think i figured out why my avatar uploads with these clothes toggled on, i noticed that the sweater and the pajamas both have on "default on", but how would i go about turning it off? and applying it to different assets?

tried to search it up but couldnt find anythin

[somber sequoia]

is it in "options"?

[torpid bolt]

OH lol it is yeah !! thanks gulp

[west magnet]

I want two float values to add up as one in the FX layer, does anyone know how to add float values?

[ornate stump]

https://vrc.school/docs/Other/Advanced-BlendTrees#1b6b02e8d0d8431eb1bd26c5a95831da

[fiery linden]

It's anyone fixing this?

[ornate stump]

See errors in console panel.

[ember escarp]

Can anyone offer some insight on why my outfit toggle with a variation might not be working as im intending?
The two transitions out from the default have two conditions each, both have "OutfitToggle" > True, as well as "OutfitVariant" which is true for one transition and false for the other. whenever i toggle "OutfitToggle" in game, it switches outfit but always to the same variant no matter if i have the second toggle "OutfitVariant" true or false.
Am I misunderstanding something about transitions/conditions here?

[pure thicket]

hey can physbones have collision with the world?

[ornate stump]

No.

[pure thicket]

ah ok, ill figure out something else then

[obtuse crystal]

anyone know a way for and object to follow to handheld cam

i want to put a physical camera model on top of it

[ornate stump]

There is no way.

[obtuse crystal]

🙏 maybe oneday

[ornate stump]

Maybe. But not now.

[bitter ledge]

Anyone know what's going on here, has there been an update that only allows uploads from SDK 3.9.0?

[junior void]

why not just update and be ok

[round comet]

VRC has a new way to create Avatar IDs so that’s why

(And yes there’s an update that only allows 3.9 or higher)

[sudden violet]

Use gesture manager or AV3 emulator to check where the controller gets stuck to troubleshoot instead of in-game

if it moves between the animations just fine and as intended, then it's probably something with the animations themselves.

(Also, just check if in your first layer you have one of the animation you have created playing)

for some reason, new animations you create will be put in the first layer.

[harsh hedge]

what's wrong with this face ? it's a flat quad but i have weird shadow on it ?

[somber sequoia]

unless you have custom normals, select the area or even the whole mesh in face mode, and in the normals menu (alt+n), reset vectors

[harsh hedge]

ty it worked ! ✅

[somber sequoia]

remember that one, you'll use it a lot 🙂

[gaunt knoll]

Aaaa alt + n for that I forgot thanks 🤣

[somber sequoia]

so many hotkeys...

[gaunt knoll]

yeahhhhh

someone somewhere has probs made a list of them all

[somber sequoia]

oh yeah, there are cheat sheets

[pine valley]

I usually just use the F3 operator search

[harsh hedge]

should i turn everything to quad instead of tris ?

or it doesn't matter to vrchat ?

[gaunt knoll]

I'm pretty sure someone said quads are bad for optimization purposes

[pine valley]

it doesn't matter

unity turns everything into triangles anyway

There is one small thing to be aware of: Unity and Blender may not agree about how to split the quads

[somber sequoia]

Quads are way nicer to work with in Blender, and you often end up wanting tris to make things bend and flex how you need it to, like when weight painting.

[pine valley]

This can cause hilarious issues if you have very weird faces

[somber sequoia]

with tris it's a lot harder to deal with edge loops, so I would probably quad that as much as possible

[pine valley]

you mean you often want quads?

[somber sequoia]

no, I meant it as I said

[pine valley]

ah, as in, triangles in specific places

not making the entire model into tris

[somber sequoia]

Yes

[pine valley]

(now i'm getting it backwards!)

[somber sequoia]

When you start weight painting, often you add edges at specific places to make things flex nicely

[pine valley]

yeah

[somber sequoia]

this though, I would absolutely quad most of that

... if you intend to actually work on it in Blender. If you're just going to export to unity and be done with it, it's fine as-is.

note that Blender's tri-to-quad thing sometimes does it weirdly 🙂

[gloomy notch]

Okay

[ember viper]

How would I size a part of an avatar / object with a audio sources volume

like as it plays, it moves

kinda like a visualizer

[somber sequoia]

You could use the Volume parameter for your speaking volume, but otherwise you'd have to do that in a shader using AudioLink, in worlds that have that installed.

[ember viper]

oh i see

okay

bummer 😔

I was hoping to use a song to move some stuff on a boombox object

w an animation

i guess i can just animate it

[somber sequoia]

yep

[balmy barn]

Voice as motion time you can make things scale up and down or blink , here is one random test of that

like them old boom box ring effects on certain pixelated games

dunno if it would pick up a audio source tho , not tested

[distant sleet]

is there any video tut explain how to do face tracking and eye tracking?

[somber sequoia]

https://docs.vrcft.io/ is a good place to start for info

[distant sleet]

i cannot do it from here?

[somber sequoia]

what is this?

oh that's cats

[distant sleet]

yes

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what that does.

Probably something for converting MMD models, which is really the main goal of cats

[distant sleet]

now im working on this avatar and i finish all rigging work

after that

what should i do to add face tracking

[somber sequoia]

yeah this seems to be just about converting or setting up basic eye tracking:
https://github.com/teamneoneko/Cats-Blender-Plugin/wiki/Eye-Tracking

to add face tracking, see the link I gave you before

[balmy barn]

that cats thing is just rotating eyebones, not really eyetracking

[somber sequoia]

oh from the wrong-orientation ones? makes sense.

(you can tell I've never used cats)

[balmy barn]

if you are using webcam you can setup that in descriptor after, for a actual vr i got no clue

[distant sleet]

so to do that i have to go into this?

[somber sequoia]

I would suggest reading all of that site, yes.

If you want to do actual face tracking. If you just mean visemes, that's different.

[distant sleet]

first all what the diffrence
second thing is there any tutorial video for that app?

[gaunt knoll]

there are lots of tutrial videos on adding face tracking

[somber sequoia]

actual face tracking means you have a face tracker on your VR headset

visemes means VRChat emulates face shapes based on sounds you make when speaking

[balmy barn]

was hinting wich one they are after, vr or webcam or what you are using

[somber sequoia]

And I have no links to video tutorials of any sort.

[gaunt knoll]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub1c6PiVc9U

this one is to jerry tutorial hes the main guy who does it to avis

[distant sleet]

so Jerry's Template is other way to do that?

[gaunt knoll]

to not use his template

yes there is but its compatible with his software

the template you have to do it yourself it not a avi addon then add on does it for you when you template is just there to guide you

[distant sleet]

so should do these first then export it to unity to do face and eye tracking for vr headset ?

by using jerry package?

[somber sequoia]

If this is a model you made, you don't need anything there

Do you have viseme shape keys now?

[distant sleet]

i just import a mmd file

[somber sequoia]

Ahh. Then maybe you do want this.

[distant sleet]

but the big problem is the avi langage is no english

[balmy barn]

translate is in cats

[distant sleet]

how?

[gaunt knoll]

yeah leave the mmd stuff in jap otherwise it wont work

[balmy barn]

can add those back with a script

[somber sequoia]

This is documented: https://github.com/teamneoneko/Cats-Blender-Plugin/wiki/Other-Options#translation-tools

[distant sleet]

if i translate it with cats also wont work?

[balmy barn]

ect it just adds them back after https://github.com/ShyWolf42/Copy-to-MMD-Visemes

dont need to translate at all, just making gestures without english would take me abit longer

not sure unity auto would get where legs are either in rig setup if it has bone children

[distant sleet]

i did this

so no need for this now?

[balmy barn]

pretty you'd need visemes and dont need to use the mmd script if its already japanease , its to find english ones and duplicate / rename to japanease

[distant sleet]

but someone said this

how should i do it with jap?

and should i fix MMD model after import it or just fine

[hybrid tide]

Hey im a bit of an avatar creation noob and it wont let me build the avatar i get this:

oop nvm

found out how to update the sdk was looking in then wrong places lol

[static fulcrum]

can someone maybe help
my sdk control panel is blank
im on the right version and ive been trying to fix this for like three months

[somber sequoia]

look in the console for errors perhaps

[static fulcrum]

nothing there

[somber sequoia]

Blank how? can you screenshot?

[static fulcrum]

ill go do that

[distant sleet]

guys i cannot find translate button !

[static fulcrum]

well theres one thing but i think thats unrelated

[hybrid tide]

you have errors turned off :)

click the red thing and they will show up

[somber sequoia]

Then scroll to the top of the list of them and look at the first 2-3, that's likely where the root cause error is.

[static fulcrum]

its all the same

[hybrid tide]

what does it say

[static fulcrum]

FormatException: Input string was not a UnityVersion string: 6000.3.0b4
VRC.Core.UnityVersion.Parse (System.String unityVersionString) (at <c3d31208973a47ab998f0cab4138285e>:0)
VRCSdkControlPanel.ShowAccount () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.base/Editor/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/ControlPanel/VRCSdkControlPanelAccount.cs:246)
VRCSdkControlPanel.<CreateGUI>b__42_1 () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.base/Editor/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/ControlPanel/VRCSdkControlPanel.cs:359)
UnityEngine.UIElements.IMGUIContainer.DoOnGUI (UnityEngine.Event evt, UnityEngine.Matrix4x4 parentTransform, UnityEngine.Rect clippingRect, System.Boolean isComputingLayout, UnityEngine.Rect layoutSize, System.Action onGUIHandler, System.Boolean canAffectFocus) (at <caff59f307d04fad9b650d10e448d90f>:0)
UnityEngine.GUIUtility:ProcessEvent(Int32, IntPtr, Boolean&)

[timber wharf]

@static fulcrum 6000

were on a specific 2022 version

[static fulcrum]

the creator companion forces me to upgrade every time even tho i choose 2022

i have the 2022 version installed too

[timber wharf]

theres ignore or smth. and its not companion but unity hub

you cannot work in 6000 for vrc

[somber sequoia]

Ahhh, that's the issue, yeah.

[static fulcrum]

ill try that ig

thank you

now its having me install everything again ;-;

i give up

[somber sequoia]

well yeah, totally different unity version is going to cause that

Don't give up! Once you get through this, it's done.

[gaunt knoll]

yip!!!

[gaunt knoll]

you can do it

it feels so good to finishes something you made or uploaded

[static fulcrum]

no
im just done

[somber sequoia]

That certainly is a choice.

[distant sleet]

when i export the avi to unity it comes without textures why

i did copy to the path

here in unity

here in blender

[void mango]

Nicee

Tbh, I never use Cats

I just import the model as an fbx

[grand scaffold]

For textures it's never reccomended to try get them into the fbx, instead you should import them separately, create materials and assign them to the model

[distant sleet]

oh

[grand scaffold]

Also you have a lot of materials on your model, it's gonna be at least Poor ranking with how many I can see. Ideally it should be as few as possible

[somber sequoia]

Yeah you really want to extract them into image files for use in Unity.

and yeah, that is way too many materials

[void mango]

Correct

[distant sleet]

how to reduse them?

[void mango]

Click on the texture in unity (the image, not the material) and there should be something saying 2048

[distant sleet]

these all texure that i had

[void mango]

Click on that and lower it to 1024

[gaunt knoll]

use compress as well if it doesnt change much

[somber sequoia]

compression doesn't change anything but download size - your main issue here is material slots

[distant sleet]

yeah

so to fix this by using blender or unity?

[void mango]

What does Material slots do?

Cause I've seen errors saying there's too many, but they don't really do anything to prevent an upload

[somber sequoia]

Each slot causes a separate draw call, which is expensive rendering. Fewer is better.

So while you can have many many, your performance (and that of others) will suffer.

I aim for as few as possible, usually having 5 or less.

[night ember]

At most you only need 1 slot per toggleable object

[harsh hedge]

why do i have an error ? i have a chest

and it's a bone

[night ember]

Rig menu

Unity doesnt just automatically make it a humanoid rig

[harsh hedge]

it's already set to humanoid

[night ember]

And?

Click configure

[somber sequoia]

Click "configure" and go see if it's setup properly

[harsh hedge]

oh ok

i need to add an upper chest bone ?

[distant sleet]

should i do that and create my own materials

[harsh hedge]

because i don't have one currently

[timber wharf]

upper chest is not mandatory

your hips is wrong one tho

[somber sequoia]

You definitely have to create materials in Unity

[somber sequoia]

Hips slot should have hips bone, not armature root.

Also remove the jaw bone if it got mapped, while you're in there.

[ember viper]

Is there a way to have multiple audios play on one source? I'm trying to make a boombox but was told having too many sources can cause lag and whatnot

[harsh hedge]

if i edit this fbx in blender, do i have to export the model or i can just save the file ?

[somber sequoia]

you export a .fbx, saving just makes a .blend

you can put that in unity but don't, exporting is better.

[somber sequoia]

use one source and VRC Animator Play Audio to switch them

[ember viper]

gonna have to figure that out