avatar-help

[strong mason]

ooooo

[gaunt knoll]

did it work

[strong mason]

um

the project window goes blank

should i move the settings.json file back?

[strong mason]

ooo, ok, one sec

i still get the error > <

[gaunt knoll]

thats weird let me get home from my jog then i will try it myself

[crisp trail]

thanks you looks a lot better now

[gaunt knoll]

you can move it back just as long as you delete the new one first

[strong mason]

ok

aaa

[gaunt knoll]

oh

[strong mason]

i moved the settings.json back and it worked now

[gaunt knoll]

xD righttt

okay

lo

lol*

[strong mason]

VCC dark magic > <

thank you so much~

sorry if i ruined your jog > <...

[gaunt knoll]

All good xD just glad your up running again

[somber sequoia]

there's a whole discord for weird limb configurations, the part of the URL after the hostname is Limbs

[void mango]

Oh, I see

Thanks

[somber sequoia]

if you can't find it, DM me and I'll give you the link.

[void mango]

Perfect, thanks

[crisp trail]

now my jaw flap bone is acting up and messing with everything

anyway to turn get it to stop messing with the animations im trying to set up?

[somber sequoia]

you could remove it from the rig setup, then add it back later

[crisp trail]

how would i remove it?

[somber sequoia]

go into the rig setup and remove the jaw bone from the jaw bone slot

[crisp trail]

ahh yeah finished that

now it does nothing i hope

this is a duplicate for some facial animation work im attempting to do

yeah its fine now

[kind needle]

Any idea what that mean ?

what is a record ?

[round comet]

Upgrade your SDK to 3.10 ^^

[kind needle]

Ah ? the sdk dont ask to update here ?

[kind needle]

ok thanks ill try

[round comet]

VRChat is blocking older SDK’s since there’s a new system for creating avatar IDs

The error isnt really helpful honestly

But ye

[somber sequoia]

yeah it's an awful error message

[kind needle]

would be nice that the SDK tell to updat, i could be wasting hours on this...

[pine valley]

yeah

it's Ungood(tm)

[somber sequoia]

it'd have to be a message the API returns and the SDK passes to the user - I wouldn't be surprised if that isn't something they setup ahead of time, and so now we're stuck with a confusing message instead.

[round comet]

Recent SDK stuff have been finicky anyhow honestly

I gotta fix some of my unity packages

[somber sequoia]

yeah 3.8 and 3.9 were really buggy

[round comet]

Yeah I had a lot of issues with 3.9 especially

[half ice]

any idea ?

[ornate stump]

#avatar-help message

[waxen smelt]

What is this

[somber sequoia]

upgrade your SDK to 3.10+

[waxen smelt]

Ok

[waxen smelt]

How do I did it tho I don’t see a update button

[somber sequoia]

it's in VCC or Alcom

definitely would be cool if there were a button or menu item for this in Unity, I wonder if there's a suggestion on canny for this

[waxen smelt]

Ty I found it

[waxen smelt]

True it’s kind of stupid the newer STK sucks that’s why I didn’t update it

[somber sequoia]

yep

[waxen smelt]

People were saying it was laggy

[mystic umbra]

how can i update my SDK as im having the same issue?

[waxen smelt]

Go to settings

It should be a button that says check for the latest update

[mystic umbra]

thanks!

[somber sequoia]

literally just said it : #avatar-help message

[mystic umbra]

my apologies, i wasnt looking.

[steep plank]

So um….i am stuck in a constant upload loop can i leave without it messing up my stuff?

[inland seal]

Anyone

[silver snow]

So I have this avatar uploaded to Quest. Have had multiple people confirm it works fine on Quest, but on Android it shows an error. Anyone have any idea why? It's optimized to good performance and works on Quest so I don't know why it shows an error on Android

[spark walrus]

I've seen sometimes interrupting/failing upload renaming files and dirs. it's generally fine. If you're worried, you can copy the unity project directory and paste it with a new name if you're worried.

[spark walrus]

There needs to be a camera and it needs to have an audio listener on it. check the sdk's upload panel too, it'll mention some audio related problems. beyond that, screenshots of the gameobject, its audio component, will help.

[spark walrus]

Quest and android is the same. technically ios too. beyond it being a bug... Is it a fallback? Does making it a fallback change anything? Tried uploading with a new blueprint, same result? ingame, checking the avi specs, are they they same? did it pass server-side validification?

[silver snow]

Trying a re-upload. It's actually medium not good perf as the stat card didn't update after switching over from windows until I was messing with other things but views on Quest just fine

[spark walrus]

I'd guess that's the problem then. Maybe export as unitypackage, open in new unity project, try a fresh upload with a new blueprint, then see what android says. or, try asking android users what they might say now that the sdk has updated itself to reflect the actual avi stats.

[steep plank]

So…..i have no clue what caused this

Their is 114 more errors like this

[spark walrus]

by opening it in safemode, not all stuff were loaded in. instead, open it normally (when prompted, don't enter safemode).

[dark jay]

anyone know what causes the white spots in the hair with the liltoon shader

[lilac void]

i updated vcc and its still giving me the id error

[void mango]

Ohh

I had that issue once and I've forgotten how I fixed it 💔

[somber sequoia]

you don't update VCC, you use VCC (or Alcom) to update the SDK package installed in each of your projects.

[lilac void]

how do you do that?

[somber sequoia]

I don't use VCC but people have been linking images of this a bunch lately

[lilac void]

how do i update the SDK package

[void mango]

Go to your project in vcc

[somber sequoia]

I still don't use VCC.

[void mango]

Then click manage project

Go to the sdk

And then update it

[lilac void]

like this?

sorry very new to unity

[somber sequoia]

that, yes.

that being 3.10 or greater is what you want.

[lilac void]

ahhhhhh sorry i just started using unity a week ago

thank you

[void mango]

Correct

[void mango]

Usually 3.9 gives the greatest results

[lilac void]

i had it as that before

[void mango]

I see

[inland gyro]

theoretically there should only be performance increases and a few crashes fixed by updating from 3.9 to 3.10+
what exactly do you mean by 'greatest results', since they both build to the same avatar ?

[void mango]

I mean quite often, when I have the SDK at 3.9, I have the least amount of errors

[somber sequoia]

3.9 is pretty buggy

[untold minnow]

why is my jaw so stretched un unity but not in blender? The jaw bone is not being influenced by any other bone.

[void mango]

I must be lucky asf then 🙏

[somber sequoia]

unweighted vertex probably

[somber sequoia]

or just haven't hit the bugs I did. use whatever works for you 🙂

[void mango]

Fair

[pine valley]

to check for an unweighted vertex, you can see if there are any warnings in the model importer inspector

it'll complain if it found any

[inland seal]

I had this problem, check if there's no deleted bones or differently named one's

Maybe still double check if none of the other bones have weight paint

[hot heron]

Hihi, VRChat Avatar Gods, Goddesses and Goobers, I need help.

Everytime I upload my retexture of Vulthra's Kooky Kobold (Private ofc) to VRChat, using the SDK (And yes, I selected Android in the dropdown menu, and made sure it was optimized) it sets it strictly to Windows only on the VRChat Website once it's uploaded.

Any way to fix this?

[hot heron]

Also note, the performance is Medium.

[lethal thorn]

U need to change your scene to android then upload it

[hot heron]

Ohhh okay! I'll try that, tysm!

[lethal thorn]

File, build settings, switch from PC to Android, done

[hot heron]

I'm getting an error, "Select at least one Android CPU architecture in Player Settings." How do I fix it?

I know I downloaded the Unity Android version.

Nvm, found a video that may help. May return if not.

[somber sequoia]

when exactly do you get this?

[hot heron]

When I do the "File, Build Setting, Switch from PC to Android" recommendation from Merry Chamsmas.

[somber sequoia]

oh weird

I mean, I don't know what a Merry Chamsmas is but it seems odd to happen from that action.

[hot heron]

The user above.

[somber sequoia]

oh!

haha I have my window small

[hot heron]

You're good lol.

I noticed that my Unity is missing the project, but my VRC Creator Companion has it?

How would I reimport to unity?

[rotund glacier]

For those who do commisions, how do you price them? im just about to finish my first ever and have no idea how.

[pearl depot]

does anyone know why the phybones on my tail r not working, i have already added the phybones, idk how to set them to stop being stiff

[harsh sand]

Hello! I came in search of some assistance with vrc model importing if anyone knows anything out it! I apologize hahaha i scrounged up all i can and i still don't get it

Speaking of, im trying to upload this avatar but the "blueprint ID" is not letting me, ive tried to detach it using normal means but i dont know enough about unity to understand the whole thing! Do yall have any idea how to fix it?

I apologize about this, ive just tried everything really but i absolutely cannot figure anything out about it, im not so new that i dont know unity but it still baffled me

[pure thicket]

are they not moving at all, or just not drooping?

[pearl depot]

only the tip is moving everything is stiff and not moving at all

[pure thicket]

thats weird, how did you set it up, for a tail youd usually just set a phsybone component on the bone at the base (it will apply to all its child bones automatically) did you do that?

or did you set seperate components for each bone

cos that might be messing it up

[pearl depot]

i believe i did sepreate child bones, i dont think i did a component bone,, its kinda my first time doing all of this im so confused

[pure thicket]

so each bone has a phybone component on it?

in the inspector?

[pearl depot]

yes

[pure thicket]

that is probably what the problem is

remove that componenet from all the bones except for the one at the base of the tail

[pearl depot]

alright! i will try this! thank you so so so so much :3!!

[pure thicket]

i think because by default physbones are set to ignore eachother if they overlap, thats why only the end is moving

ik cos i had to do some stuff with my own tail where i actually Wanted them to overlap in specific circumstances

[pearl depot]

it worked !! thank you actually so much im wrighting it all down and it actually makes so much sense thanks to u !

[pure thicket]

cooool, im glad

[nova trench]

Do anyone know where i can find good clothing for the arkoshark model?

[harsh sand]

Hmmm id reccomend looking at booth, jinxxy or itch.io for stuff like that

Any other sites could contain viruses you dont want on your computer

Especially sites like ripper

Ugh

[late tinsel]

Why does it look so good in blender and so bad in unity

[inland gyro]

best to ask #1138520828556890214 but to answer, try searching gumroad or jinxxy for assets

[pure thicket]

i think there a normal maps that you forgot to import

[late tinsel]

How do I do thay

That

[pure thicket]

it should be like a png somewhere

[late tinsel]

How I import it

And slap it on the model

Because idk how to do that

[pure thicket]

if you have the png, you just important it into unity and then select a "bumped" shader for your material, and there will be a slot for it

[late tinsel]

Idk how to do that can we get in a call

Please please

[pure thicket]

im at a cafe rn lol

[late tinsel]

Awe man

Ok my my "normals"

Look like this

Is that normal?

[pure thicket]

ya

[late tinsel]

Oki

[pure thicket]

you just need to import it into unity

[late tinsel]

Like

In the asset box

[simple sparrow]

How doth one fix this

[pure thicket]

yeah

[late tinsel]

And it will automatically add

[pure thicket]

no you have to add it to the shader for the models material

[gaunt knoll]

update your sdk

[late tinsel]

Uhh

[pure thicket]

this

[gaunt knoll]

3.9.0 to 3.10.0

[late tinsel]

:(

What I do

[pure thicket]

if you dont mind waiting a while, i can show you screenshots of the process when i get home

i wont be able to explain it very well in discord

[late tinsel]

Sure I'll keep my laptop open

When you get home?

[late tinsel]

Also what should I do about this

[pure thicket]

in a couple hours lol

[late tinsel]

Just leave it and wait for you?

Oki

Thats ok

[harsh sand]

Oh my god

[pure thicket]

there is a setting you are supposed to change but i cant remember exactly without being on my computer

[harsh sand]

The answer was simple dudes im so sorry, i just had to update my VRC SDK Files

[pure thicket]

you can probably just look it up, theres definitely tutorials

[harsh sand]

Good god ;0;

[late tinsel]

Oki

I'll see you in a veiw hours

[gaunt knoll]

yeah 3.9.0 is having issues

[harsh sand]

Good god pWahahaha

I was so stressed for 3 hrs tryina get it to work

And boom i see a thread about the update im sitting there like: nooooo

It cant be that easy

[gaunt knoll]

xD

[harsh sand]

And boom, it was that easy

[gaunt knoll]

yeaaa

most of there issues with cc all you have to do is move one file out of cc load it up and delete the new one and move the old one back it fixes everything

[simple sparrow]

I was still in 3.7 😭

but its fixed now

[gaunt knoll]

yep that would be why rip 3.7.0 days

[simple sparrow]

Thank you

[gaunt knoll]

all good

[sharp bluff]

Hi, this might be a dumb question but I thought I’d still ask. I’m sure a lot of you have heard of the “wave ban” happening. Well, I had a question regarding that. I’ve heard a lot of different reasons from a lot of different people on why people are getting banned and i think it’s pretty much…confusing. So here goes: what exactly can we NOT have on an avatar ? I’ve seen people say you cannot use any NSFW avatar in public, only private, and ok…good ? But what exactly constitute that kind of avatar ? Some people were saying that even if you don’t have DPS or anything you could still get banned if your avatar had the mesh or texture of an “anatomically correct” human. Meaning that even if they are FULLY clothed and can NOT get their clothes off, as long as the parts are still there you are still at risk.
So…I’m currently working on a private avi and, she does have intimate part in the mesh itself, but I skin coloured them in the texture, so like a Barbie doll. Obviously she also will have underwear + clothes and no toggle to take them off. So I wanted to know if I could wear her without worry in public instances. AND also, in the meantime, I found PUBLIC avi which you can’t remove the clothes but I’m pretty sure the textures are there underneath, so are those also safe or not ?

Some people will probably think I should just stick in privates to be sure or something…but thing is…I actually like going to publics. The best part of the game for me is the entertainment that comes from such a multitude of different people.

Anyways, I’m really taking all the precautions I can since I’ve put a good chunk of money in that game and enjoy it. Obviously I do not EP in public, or even in private. And I deleted any stickers that could’ve been perceived as “ADULT CONTENT”. Even went and deleted the 100+ Avis I had favourited (except for the few I mentioned). The only thing that people could potentially disagree with might be my crude language/humour, but that’s difficult to change after so many years- I don’t insult anyone tho.

I wish vrchat would give a real list of what we can and can’t have, with example if possible haha- because I feel like there is a lot of contradictions everywhere.

[wet pier]

is there anyway to do a effect where your avatar duplicates and moves randomly

[late tinsel]

Glory be to Jesus Christ for he is good and loves man kind Amin

I did finally did it

[gaunt knoll]

yes but you would need two avis like how Dextro's Clone System works

[inland gyro]

to iterate really quick: vrchat doesnt use ai scanning and has a human somewhere in the review process, so if anything comes up, do ask for an appeal
anyays, barbie nudity should be fine, but its def risky. having nsfw meshes toggled off is very risky, so i would suggest making a 'private use' version and a 'public use' version instead of having them on the same avatar id honestly

(this is the safest and easiest way to avoid a ban, i have a version of my main avi with all the fancy toggles and one which i bring into publics X_X)

[sharp bluff]

What do you mean by nsfw meshes toggled off ?

[inland gyro]

im assuming thats what you mean here

i am the jumper of conclusions and apologize if i am being evil 🐛

[spark walrus]

does anyone have any experience with the KTEK stun gun?

[sharp bluff]

Well- I meant, she have a vagina and breasts- but I don’t want to take them off in blender cause it’s gonna fuck up everything else- but I colored them to “disappear” on the texture png 😅

And shes going to have clothes. Like I said, she’ll never be fully naked, but yes…the thing are still there

[inland gyro]

yeah, that might be a little risky having them on the mesh

again id try to keep it to two separate avatars if you can

[sharp bluff]

But…the thing is…every avatar base have them ? So going with that logic we shouldn’t even buy avatar off jinx y anymore ?

[sharp bluff]

Have we really arrived at that point ? Is vrchat seriously penalizing player for anatomically correct Avis… it’s worse than I thought honestly. I’m losing hope 😭

[sharp bluff]

That would mean I need to restart my avi from the beginning 😨

[spark walrus]

you have a valid point. it should be against the law for vrchat to make people ID verify for adult instances and then just not allow NSFW models when there is a clear adults only spaces to do those things in. it is simply why people are abandoning vrchat for chilloutvr

also the fact they are ID verifying with a company that has had a criminal record of selling your info to third parties

[sharp bluff]

The worst is…we’re not even talking full on Nsfw…we’re talking body part that human actually have.
Like I’m not asking to let me run around naked with a sextoy or something…I just want to not get banned for having NON visible correct anatomy

I’m gonna cry

[spark walrus]

ah. ok

sorry i precieve things wrong at times

[sharp bluff]

Oh no no it’s fine haha- I meant it in a way like…it’s really bad- like they’re abusing

[pure thicket]

one timed i walked backwards and accidentally clipped into the person behind me and got a face full of a certain kind of texture lol

[spark walrus]

like i love vrchat, the roleplay communities here are amazing i just wish they had better TOS and moderation

AI already is an issue

[sharp bluff]

Well see, I can understand accidents like that happens while it’s clearly doesnt in real life, so yeah I don’t mind taking the parts of the texture. But…the mesh itself…it’s too much. Like I said…all the avatar base have them. So we’d suddenly all need to learn how to correctly model things to get rid of them ? 😭

[spark walrus]

what we really need is a more user friendly 3d modeling program

[pure thicket]

sounds tough

[spark walrus]

blender is a very hard program to learn

[pure thicket]

its hard but im not very smart and i figured it out

[sharp bluff]

Blender is actually really user friendly when you compare it to other programs AND it’s free.

[spark walrus]

wait really?

[pure thicket]

i think just for smoothin out one part of the mesh, it wouldnt be too difficult

[sharp bluff]

Yep

[spark walrus]

i find an easier time using maya which is what people used to make assets for playstation home

[sharp bluff]

I mean it’s not just smoothing out the mesh. You’d have to get rid of some bones on the rig, and also the whole “interior system”

[pure thicket]

damn, they got bones in them things??

[sharp bluff]

Some base yes

[pure thicket]

wow

yeah i guess it would be more annoying then

[sharp bluff]

I have multiple different women base, and one of them litteraly have a “jiggle” bone for the private part.

[pure thicket]

lmao

i dont like buy avatars so, i dont know anythihng

[sharp bluff]

It’s still do-able obviously, but it is annoying yes

And also, like I said…In my case I’d have to restart my avi just for that. Which is the most annoying part: I’d have to open blender and then scratch all my work in unity lol

[pure thicket]

im imagining someone removing the bone but forgetting to redo the weight paint, so now when they walk they leave their crotch across the room

[pure thicket]

why would you have to redo the unity stuff?

[sharp bluff]

Well, if I change something in blender, that means I have to export the new fbx of my avatar. The updated version. That would mean I’d have to import said new version in unity, which mean…well I’d have to redo everything from the old version to the new version. Materials are easy cause they’re already made and you just have to place them…but other things like toggles would be a hassle id prefer not have

[pure thicket]

when i update my avatar in blender i just copy the new fbx into the assets folder and rename it to the old fbx, everything transfers over fine?

i dont have to redo anything really

[sharp bluff]

don’t ask me why- but personally I do have to redo everything…and also my unity crashes a lot 😭

[cyan swan]

i created this avi out of free assets and textures that allow commercial use/comissions, how do i link the assets to the body in blender so they move with the body in vr?

its rigged

[sharp bluff]

Is it weightpainted ?

[pure thicket]

in unity you should just be able to drag the clothes bones to underneath the relevant avatar's bones

but idk how well that will look if they are not made for the avatar

[sudden meadow]

can sombody help me

[pure thicket]

or yeah in blender, weight paint them to the avatar's bones, buty thats hard work

[cyan swan]

yeah had to fit the techsuit to the avatar

[sudden meadow]

been fighting with this

[cyan swan]

you have vrcfury?

[sudden meadow]

hm?

[cyan swan]

and gogoloco?

you need vrcfury

[sudden meadow]

tbh dawg idk this avi was givin to me form a freind and im trying to upload it

[cyan swan]

i can send u the link to vrcfury

[sudden meadow]

kay

[cyan swan]

actually i can upload for u for free

if it works with only fury

https://vrcfury.com/download/

also is he on quest?

[sudden meadow]

i dont think so iv done walk into the VRC CC and it said my gestures where there but in unity it says it missing and then this stuff pops up

[sudden meadow]

she is yes

[fresh quartz]

I need help i spent 3+ hours trying to figure out how to optimize my avatar so i can upload it because its over the mb limit can anyone help me

[cyan swan]

ok

i can help too

in exchange can u help me with my avi?

[fresh quartz]

What do u need help with?

[cyan swan]

,

[spark walrus]

does anyone have any experience with the KTEK stun gun?

[cyan swan]

not me

[fresh quartz]

That i dont know im still new i just need help i cant seem to figure out how to lower the mb limit

[cyan swan]

have her dm me on dc

[sudden meadow]

the avi?

cuz i have it downloaded it from her im trying to make it private

[cyan swan]

you need to remove some accessories

[sudden meadow]

if only this place had a vc so i can show u

[cyan swan]

i can upload to her acc if i can have password and username (she can change pass right after if she wants)

vc in dm

[fresh quartz]

I need help i spent 3+ hours trying to figure out how to optimize my avatar so i can upload it because its over the mb limit can anyone help me

[cyan swan]

maybe fix shaders?

[sudden meadow]

it going to mines

[cyan swan]

ohhh ok

[fresh quartz]

I had the poi toon shaders

[sudden meadow]

but can i call u in dm vc

[cyan swan]

yes

[sudden meadow]

cuz i really wanna lern how to fix this bs

[cyan swan]

ok ty

[fresh quartz]

Can anyone help me

I need help i spent 3+ hours trying to figure out how to optimize my avatar so i can upload it because its over the mb limit can anyone help me i have the poi toon shaders

[whole escarp]

Use vrcquestools to convert the avi

Add it int oVCC

@fresh quartz

I think the API might be broken though, nothing uploads anyway

[fresh quartz]

It is in vcc but i just dont know how to use it. Im sorry

[whole escarp]

Go to "tools" at the white toolbar at the top

clic kvrcquestools

convert avatar to android

Remove bones as needed

VRC API seems to be dying anyways

So u might not be able to upload rn

YEAH

[sudden meadow]

hey does anyone know anything about this??

Saying i got no ASSETBUNDLE

and something bout NETWORK id

[inland gyro]

are you on the latest version of the sdk?
it seems like others are having api issues right now, so that could be related

[fringe wing]

Guys something’s wrong with unity or vrchat sdk I cant upload anything keeps on saying the I need to create a new record for id something

[halcyon dagger]

Did you ever figure it out 🥺 getting the same error

[iron widget]

No, I gave up and sent the project to May MacBook to build.

[halcyon dagger]

Sadge

[iron widget]

I would recommend trying to use proton to run the editor and see if that will build. I’ll be doing that tomorrow.

[halcyon dagger]

I tried to run VCC with bottles and it just never opened, then found alcom, set that up with projects and everything, then hitting this. But running the editor with it is a good idea, but it's definitely sad

[iron widget]

Try using Proton GE by adding the windows version of Unity hub to Steam, and run the windows version of the editor. If that works then it’s 100% a missing library issue.

[whole escarp]

yeah seems to be the case.

Its dying

I restarted my pc, removed vpn, switched and hopped three different routers. Always fails with a blank error at the end

Tried avis that I uploaded earlier in the day, didnt work either so yeah

Always the same error related to the sdk

[gaunt knoll]

update your sdk on CC

[hard hatch]

I was just doing some work on my avatar and went to go test it out in vrc, but for some reason my hand gestures aren't working 🤔. I didn't change anything other than messing around with the menus and toggles, so I'm unsure what could be causing this. Anyone know what this might be?

(Note: I've had this issue before but I don't remember what I did in orfer to fix it.)

[whole escarp]

Updating the SDK dosent resolve the issue.

[gaunt knoll]

i wasnt taking to you lol i didnt reply to your message

[whole escarp]

Not sure how that is relevant, I had the same error earlier lmao

[gaunt knoll]

do they work in play mode in unity

[hard hatch]

No, they're just stuck in some weird default position

its strange because they move and articulate normally when I do emotes, but otherwise, theyre just stuck like this

[gaunt knoll]

yes they how the people who did they made them

i mean you must of gotten rid of something or there a unity bug i dont know about im pretty sure VrcFury has a fix for gestures

[hard hatch]

hmmmm I definitely didnt delete any params, much less any params that would cause this. I'll try and keep messing around and see if I can get a fix for this

[whole escarp]

Did you ever change the avi rig?

[hard hatch]

not in the time that I started doing the work I was doing earlier

all I did was import like 2 small assets and edit the menus a little bit

but none of that should interfere with the hand gestures I would think

[halcyon dagger]

I'll try it, but I think this is part of the problem, only showing linux build target in the build settings. On my omarchy laptop, editor 2020.3.49f1 shows windows in that dropdown for a normal game I'm making. Creating an empty project on my cachyos it's also missing. You're running cachy? I wonder if it's a cachy specific package breaking it

I'm downgrading the project to 2022.3.6f1 to see if that shows me anything different

[iron widget]

The other modules should be installed from Unity hub as usual. I had Linux, windows, android, and iOS installed. Although the Linux build is default, the other platforms should work after installation, in theory.

[iron widget]

I also tried downgrading to that version and it gave the same error.

[halcyon dagger]

Fuck

Right, and installing them shows them in the build dropdown in the vrc sdk selector, but not in the actual project build settings. I think it should be showing there

[hard hatch]

OKAY I FIXED IT. the gestures were for some reason not tunred on in the FX layer

[gaunt knoll]

Huh wild

Glad that's fix for you

[iron widget]

It should be. Considering every other dependency is met, the target platform should be able to be switched to windows.

[halcyon dagger]

yes and?

[iron widget]

Is there an option for windows IL2cpp?

[hard hatch]

lmao genuinely zero clue how they managed to become disabled but at least it's fixed 😭

[halcyon dagger]

No

On unity documentation it says it's because IL2CPP can only be built for your current platform

But considering other people aren't having this issue I don't know if that's still true

May be for an older version

Switching the scripting backend in project settings to IL2CPP also doesn't fix it

[iron widget]

So maybe the solution is to run it using proton to trick it into building for windows?

[halcyon dagger]

My unity on Omarchy (also arch based) shows this, but I don't have a vrc project on this laptop setup yet

So it's gotta be an cachyos thing

[whole escarp]

Try rn, API seems to be up?

[halcyon dagger]

Somehow the cpio package is related to all this, I switched from the cachy version to the extra version but no dice

[hard hatch]

okay I lied, that did not fix it

at all

it just fixed it up until I uploaded it

now its still broken

bro Im so close to just throwing this computer in the dumpster

ig Im supposed to know wtf this means

even tho it doesnt need a mask

but ig unity just wants to make up stuff randomly

there is zero reason why it should need a mask

but ofc i get no explanation as to what this even means

Yeah im done with this

[neat smelt]

hey can someone PLEASE help me

[ornate stump]

Can't help until you explain what help you need.

[iron widget]

I looked through the aur page for unity hub and found a few interesting comments.
"Version 3.15.2-1 does not recognize installed plaforms. It will be fixed in 3.16.0+"
"[Update] Looks like the 3.15.3 is out and platform recognition problem should be fixed in this version. I installed it manually and it finally worked!"
Source: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/unityhub

[ornate stump]

Gesture layer requires mask. It's always been like that.

[halcyon dagger]

Holy shit nice! Good find!

Oh unless that's the comment and not what you're saying 💀 sweet I'll try it out here in a sec

[iron widget]

The update process is a little scuffed, but either way, the aur has to be updated.

[halcyon dagger]

Yeah sounds good. I may just wait until aur updates

[iron widget]

Can confirm, running hub 3.15.3 manually via extracted rpm works on Arch Linux. Thanks to @halcyon dagger who helped come to this solution. They will receive their prize immediately.

[sudden meadow]

I got it to work

[open spindle]

Are ppl getting banned for nsfw textures on public avatars cause you can see that when you look inside someone by accident?

Like even though the avatar itself isn't nsfw

[neat smelt]

I probably should’ve screenshot the errors

[ornate stump]

Of course.

[neat smelt]

But tbh I’m fucking exhausted

Genuinely my autistic as was getting so pissy

[iron widget]

Avatars not building on arch linux is solved. That and I stayed true to my bounty for the solution.

[spark walrus]

I've been using arch for almost a year now. I've built multiple avatars on it, for android and windows. but I made my own makepkg and installed standalone with android, ios support. I also offline activated my license manually and apparmored, firejailed, and firewalled unity. it can only connect to vrc servers. screw unity hub and creator companion.

[iron widget]

Most based workflow real.

[heavy ingot]

My tool menu tab to activate gesture manager isnt showing up, neither is the SDK avatar Tab on unity- i have everything correctly installed, I am utterly stumped.

[neon solar]

If it has it, even if you can't see the texture until you go 'inside' of it, it's still NSFW, regardless if it's visible, toggleable, etc.

[junior void]

why dot you try updating your sdk

[hot heron]

Hi, I’m back.

So I got everything to work on the unity side.

The weird thing is the avatar isn’t showing up on VRCHAT/Metaquest 2 side/in game.

I definitely set it to have that support. Idk enough about android coding to mess with it.

Why is it not showing up in game?

Also note: the stats are excellent/good or medium minimum.

Please help!

Something isnt showing up on the right way in game… how do I fix?

Like, none of the assets properly loaded

[ornate stump]

What exact unity version you're using?

[hot heron]

Lemme check

2022.3.22.f1

[ornate stump]

When build and publish, did it report "Upload Avatar Successfully" when it's done?

[hot heron]

Yes, it uploaded successfully, it just didn’t register on vrchat right

Idk about build & publish

[ornate stump]

Build and publish is for uploading though.

[hot heron]

Ik

I don’t understand what you’re looking for.

When I built & published?

[junior void]

did you hit the test button

[hot heron]

I tried.

[ornate stump]

I'm trying to get some clue what went wrong.

[hot heron]

Lemme try again

[hot heron]

Do you mean build& run?

[junior void]

iirc test build on quest dont work right

[ornate stump]

There shouldn't be Build&Run. That's for world.

[hot heron]

Where’s test for avatars then?

[junior void]

im saying dont do the test thing

do build and publish as usual

[hot heron]

Okay, build & publish is giving me an error

[junior void]

as renfrew mentioned, build and run is for world so maybe your packages are messed up

post it

[hot heron]

I need a CPU architecture in player settings?

[ornate stump]

If that's the case, the uploading wouldn't be successful to begin with.

[hot heron]

Now I’m just super confused..

[ornate stump]

What the actual error you got?

[junior void]

so are we. you said it uploads fine but now it doesnt

[hot heron]

I just told you

[junior void]

take a picture of your console

[hot heron]

Ok

[ornate stump]

No. DOn't interpret the error yourself.

[hot heron]

The right side of screen isn’t important cuz nothings there

As you can see

[junior void]

its not set humanoid

thats a problem

[hot heron]

How do I set it to that?

[ornate stump]

It's probably is one of many other issues.

[hot heron]

Thats the only one showing

I looked over all the rest no other errors

[ornate stump]

Also instead, pick only one platform to build at a time.

[whole escarp]

Uploaded but the API broke both of em lmao, security checks failed on a 5mb avi lmfaooooooo

[hot heron]

Ohh ok

[ornate stump]

https://youtu.be/rRAnDMUbWt8?t=71 to set humanoid rig.

[hot heron]

Ty!

[dreamy herald]

can someone help me with this?

[hot heron]

Hi, sorry I still need help.. ;-;

[junior void]

update your sdk to latest

[hot heron]

Is there a way to set the avatar descriptor another way?

Like, grouping or something

[dreamy herald]

ok

[hot heron]

Idk what's going on with it.

[ornate stump]

What "another way" would be?

[hot heron]

Idk.

I legit don't understand what I'm doing tbh.

[ornate stump]

Then there is no answer.

[hot heron]

Like, at all.

[ornate stump]

Like why would you need to do it in another way?

[hot heron]

When I set the descriptor to body, it says the feet head & arms are missing their specifications

Which shouldn't be the case.

[hot heron]

After adding animator

[ornate stump]

Did you check in the rig configuration menu to confirm bone assignment?

[hot heron]

Idk where that is.

[ornate stump]

It's in the video.

[hot heron]

I had my partner buy me this model/avatar, and I really don't know how to set any of this up.

I can't find rig under inspector.

[junior void]

show us

[hot heron]

Thats all that comes up

[junior void]

youre not following the video

[hot heron]

I'm trying to

[junior void]

you dont click the avatar in your scene, you find the fbx file in the assets folder

[hot heron]

Where do I find that? 😭

[whole escarp]

The API has been cooked for a while

[dreamy herald]

thxxx

[hot heron]

FBX exporter?? Is that it?

Man, I'm feeling excessively stupid tonight..

[ornate stump]

In case you haven't followed the news #announcements message

[whole escarp]

Updating to 3.10 did nothing

SDK errors over and over

restarted pc, hopped off vpn, switched 3 different routers, comedy

[ornate stump]

What error it's reporting?

[whole escarp]

SDK control panel error

[ornate stump]

That isn't what error is written.

[whole escarp]

it kicks me off when its about to upload, which it uploads an empty project

[whole escarp]

That is the detailed version of the error lol

[ornate stump]

Just take screenshot of what it's showing.

[hot heron]

This was in the rig, I finally found it.

How come it's not working?

[junior void]

go to "configure"

[whole escarp]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/730948173379535022/1449630195496779877/image.png?ex=693f98d3&is=693e4753&hm=2792d25984e574a971858f6ad637279215805bd16f5e0ccad0681adcc402b58c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

Funny enough I uploaded a similar version of the avi earlier today, didnt have issues lol

on sdk 3.9

[ornate stump]

You cropped the upper part.

[whole escarp]

Are you pretending

[ornate stump]

The upper part is summalized of what went wrong. What you show is the stacktrace which meaning what part of the code that went wrong.

[ornate stump]

I can still see it's "File to upload file" #avatar-help message

[whole escarp]

Oh mhm that helps a lot

Because I have never used unity before, im actually new and didnt try ANYTHING before complaining

[ornate stump]

Not sure that would mean anything. I had sent you the message to potential solution though.

[hot heron]

If you guys were talking to me, I'm having so much trouble. I don't mean to be a pest, but I really need help.. That's why I'm here.

[junior void]

^

[hot heron]

I did.

Lemme get ss's

[junior void]

also where is your avatar descriptor

[hot heron]

Body

[junior void]

it shouldnt be on body

it needs to be on the main root object where the animator is

that would be the reason why the sdk does not recognize the settings in it

[hot heron]

Okay I put it on the main object (The overarching file/thingy that all the other model stuffs go into)

[junior void]

now the errors about rig stuff should be gone

[hot heron]

They're not. 😭

Getting ss

Whoops

Wrong ss

[ornate stump]

Better to not forgetting removing the avatar descriptor that put on the BODY

[hot heron]

This one

[junior void]

they ARE gone

wth you on about

[ornate stump]

It's solved the bone issues.

[hot heron]

Again, I sent the wrong ss at first.

[junior void]

red circles = not errors

[hot heron]

Please don't get hostile with me.. I really feel stupid as it is.

[hot heron]

Okay

[junior void]

you can upload like this

[hot heron]

Okay

Tysm

Also is there any way to optimize it? (Not have the performance poor?)

[junior void]

not using unity

[hot heron]

Oh okay, ty!

[halcyon dagger]

Yippieeeee ^^

[gaunt knoll]

There are many ways of optimizing it using unity my favourite is polytool

Worth a look at

[junior void]

it costs money and using blender instead would be free and even better

[gaunt knoll]

its only £25

[left gull]

free is far better then any amount + polytool is kinda limited with how far its optimization can go, its good as a quick fix if you're someone that doesnt have freetime but shouldnt be a perma fix

[rotund solstice]

Hii. I have this problem where other people can't see my expressions. The mouth for every expression works but the eyes stay closed so it looks like I don't have any eyes at all. Does anyone know why this could be happening?

[ornate stump]

With limited information, this sounds like you had mixed Write Defaults states.

[rotund solstice]

I'm pretty sure I used vrcfury to have it all set on either on or off but I will check that right now!

[winter perch]

What is this error?

[ornate stump]

You haven't imported all the required packages.

Were you sure people had your avatar fully shown?

Do you see the toggle yourself?

How did you create the toggle?

[proven quail]

Were they on a different platform than you? (PC/Quest/iOS)

[ornate stump]

There are dozens of way.

There was a question, were they on the same platform as you?

There is no automation tool being used, like vrcfury and modular avatar?

Can you screenshot how you set the parameter file?

Right, user mistake.

[open spindle]

So lets say if you cant see it cause of culling or outlines its no longer considered NSFW right?

[neon solar]

Still NSFW if it's on the avatar, even if it's hidden.

If there's a naked texture in the avatarbundle, it's still NSFW

[open spindle]

Okay but they work off of reports from us yes?

[neon solar]

Yes.

[open spindle]

Us being the community

So if theres no way to SEE the NSFW bits at all unless looking at the avatar package itself(specifically public models) you shouldn't get in trouble for it right cause no ones able to see anything nsfw that they didn't consent to see

[neon solar]

Takes one random report by someone who doesn't like you, even though the person has no clue it has it on there for there to be a chance it will get checked.

[open spindle]

Thats in my opinion dumb and they really need to rethink that especially cause all common avatar bases have that and some don't know how to edit textures(and geometry of the base)

Is this only for public avatars?

[neon solar]

Both.

Well, you are uploading an 'NSFW' avatar to a PG13 game. So I don't really think it's that dumb.

[open spindle]

Most avatars ARE nsfw what😭

Even the sfw ones

[neon solar]

NSFW as in Nudity, yes, I know. It's unfortunate the platform became like that. Even though most of them are, doesn't mean it's allowed. And as you can see the past weeks, they're cracking down on them.

[open spindle]

It is cause TEXTURES even ones that are HIDDEN can get you banned?

[neon solar]

Yes, you'd still be uploading NSFW, even if it's hidden.

[still shuttle]

Updated my VCC and now my avatar is always in bicycle pose in play mode?? I use gesture manager and av3 to test toggles and she is usually standing but since I updated the vcc girliepop is just stuck

I tried uninstalling both things from the project and re-installing but it didnt do anything

[mossy ridge]

is there a way to have the tie be gone on specific outfits while also being able to toggle it off on the default outfit without it doing this? ive been trying to get this to work for like 20 minutes and everytime it's either it flickers on and off on the outfits where its meant to be off, it doesnt turn off at all, it doesnt show up at all, or it just flickers all the time no matter what outfit is toggled on nevermind i figured it out

[somber sequoia]

those are just play mode tools, they won't fix this. Show your playable layers config in the avatar descriptor

[still shuttle]

This is how I have the playable layers set

[somber sequoia]

looks ok

I mean, no idea what's in those or if they're even valid animators

you might try removing base and action, see if that works

[still shuttle]

Yeah thats why I'm so confused, this only happened when I updated my VCC 😭
The proxy ones are for the gogoloco im using, as it says that those should be placed there

[somber sequoia]

huh those are funny names for gogo loco animators, but ok

[still shuttle]

I agree

I dont feel like updating my vcc would cause this issue but it seemingly did? as it only started happening once I updated it

[somber sequoia]

#creator-companion might be better for that one

[wanton valve]

Oh you're right, mb

[sudden meadow]

I got it it was the vrchat fury missing

but trying to make it quest and i need help here

[wispy zealot]

so basically i added lipsync to my avatar with a blendshape and i cant see it in any mirror

how do i fix this

[timber wharf]

have you populated every viseme slot with a blendshape?

[wispy zealot]

what

what does that mean

[timber wharf]

show what youve actualy done if it doesnt ring any bells. via images

[wispy zealot]

..?

[timber wharf]

and lipsync is done how?

[timber wharf]

ah its a jaw only, forgot jaw can be not only via a bone. looks fine then.

slider works fine in unity?

[wispy zealot]

slider..?

[wispy zealot]

yup

so why isnt it working..?

[timber wharf]

🤷‍♂️ if there are no custom animators with tracking control - and i dont see any in assets - then no idea

[vapid slate]

will this resolve itself in game or no 😭

[gaunt knoll]

Depends turn the clothes back on then yes

If not click on the body and play with the blend shapes

[fickle moon]

hey i need some help with animations. i recently created some for the first time but got a problem i couldn't find a solution to elsewhere. i made 7 animations and assigned each of them to a hand gesture. everything seems fine until i enter play mode and let my avatar do two hand gestures at the same time, in that state the blendshapes of those two animations start to mix togehter and everything starts to look weird. so i'd be really glad if someone knows how to fix this.

[gaunt knoll]

I wanna say add weight to the animation
But someone smarter then me would probably say something else lol

[graceful elm]

I am curious if anyone here has any ideas on how I could do this.
I am looking for a way to non destructively Hide a part of the avatar body, in a drag and drop kind of way, VRCFury style.

An example where this would be usefuô:

You made a addon for an avatar base that changes the feet to a pair of hooves, but you need a way to hide the original feet of the avatar so the hooves can be placed on top of them. I need away to do this in a drag and drop manner so the end user isnt forced to edit his shader settings or god forbid go into blender to make adjustments to his model.

The one solution I was recommended is creating a diff file and patching the model with that diff, like version control programs do. I dont like this approach as its still clunky and very fragile. So very much open to other ideas.

[gaunt knoll]

Do you want the hooves to be permanent on or toggle

[graceful elm]

toggle ideally

I want a system that is flexible, the hooves are just an example, this could be used for so many different things.

[night ember]

You cant really hide parts without adding a way specifically to the fbx directly

[gaunt knoll]

I mean you could toggle blend shapes but that's not a drag and drop thing

[night ember]

Adding to the fbx directly like I just said

[graceful elm]

yeah assume the base model doesnt have a blend shape that can work for my situation

[night ember]

You dont really have options

Adding clothing to a base built for the base? Yea that can be "nondestructive" but replacing parts cant

[graceful elm]

I can think of one way to do it, but its not something I have the knowledge to implement, but I definitely know its possible.

You could hide a part of a mesh using alpha testing in the shader.
And it would be possible to inject an extra alpha test pass to any shader on build time, the same way VRCFury injects its SPS shader into whatever shader youre using.

I was hoping someone has already done something like this and I just didnt know about it.

[night ember]

Thats not drag and drop

[graceful elm]

it is though

[night ember]

Uvs are different

[graceful elm]

what?

different compared to what?

[night ember]

Every other model that exists?

[graceful elm]

but this is an asset made for a specific avatar base

[gaunt knoll]

Huh

[night ember]

Youd have to go and specifically cut out the legs of the texture via the base texture directly or an alpha map

[balmy barn]

that shader isnt magical , its just contacts only reason people use it cause it simplifies it alot and have common parameters

[graceful elm]

I dont understand what youre trying to say here.

[balmy barn]

people will do anything in unity instead of <5min in blender

[graceful elm]

And I also dont understand what this comment is supposed to mean

[night ember]

Do you not know how transparency works?

[graceful elm]

I do know how transparency works.
In this case you can just provide a simple alpha mask, and perform alpha testing against it.

the shader part of this implementation is not that complicated

[night ember]

Which would still be destructive

[graceful elm]

Why would it be destructive? It can be implemented on build time. And even be animated. At runtime, as its shader based

[night ember]

You are changing material properties and textures

[graceful elm]

Youre not changing material properties or textures, you would append extra shader code on top of the original shader, this way the original functionality of the shader is not touched at all

[night ember]

Thats not how shaders work

[graceful elm]

I mean... it is.. its been done before, so I dont understand why you couldnt do it for something like this

[night ember]

You cant just slap code onto a shader like that

The shader would need to support those features or be replaced entirely

[graceful elm]

Yes you can, you can absolutely just append extra HLSL into a shader file before its compiled.

again, its been done before. See SPS patching

[past zinc]

I hope someone can help.
My issue is that I done the trouble shooting on the VCR SDK and it wont ever show up in the unity at the top. It is my first true avatar, its a pre-complete one and have no clue what I am doing

[night ember]

With already supported shaders

[graceful elm]

What does "already supported" mean? None of the shaders that SPS supports have SPS functionality built into them by default

[night ember]

Did you use creator companion to import everything?

[past zinc]

like the model and stuff or what?

[night ember]

The vrcsdk

[past zinc]

Yes I did

[night ember]

You literally just stated it right there
The shader needs to support that feature

[graceful elm]

Support what? Patching? I dont understand what youre trying to say

[proven quail]

When you patch something, it usually means the base thing doesn’t support something, and someone creates code that can be inserted that works and is compatible with how the thing is coded and it literally slaps the code in there.

[night ember]

the sps functionality

[graceful elm]

well the Unity standard shader doesnt support SPS? yet VRCFury patches it in there. Same goes for poiyomi and for any other shader that SPS can patch for.

You can look at the VRCFury code yourself, all it does is append the SPS code into the detected shader, granted for poiyomi its more compliacted because of its locking feature but as far as I can see thats the only exception in the whole system.

[proven quail]

So someone could totally create a patch for specific shaders to do the transparency thing, but they would need to understand in and out how each shader is coded and create compatible code to be inserted at runtime

[graceful elm]

and the end of the day, something like like an Alpha tested effect is as simple as mapping the texture to the mesh UVS, and editing the final Return function of the shader to discard any pixels in that mask. So it should be even simpler than SPS patching

[zenith escarp]

I don't think the shader itself needs to support SPS, but rather the authors of SPS need to write support for third party shaders into their patcher.

[night ember]

Which then would be support

[zenith escarp]

If the code that Redotix is speaking of (which doesn't currently exist) was made, it could be made to support any shaders (manually, but would not require the third party shader authors to add support)

[proven quail]

Support in the wrong direction… the shader did nothing to support it and the community did everything to edit the shader to add functionality

[graceful elm]

^^ It would be possible to implement as a drag and drop solution

[proven quail]

That edit could be inserted on runtime hence non destructive

[zenith escarp]

The reason it would work (and the reason the SPS patcher supports so many different shaders) is because it is patched into the shader by a script written by the creators of SPS, and does not require collaboration with third party shader authors (who did not implement support for SPS into their shaders themselves)

A similar method for UV discarding or something akin to it is theoretically possible

[graceful elm]

there are some assumptions you can make for shaders that would mean most will be supported without any extra effort, most shaders use the same syntax for common parameters and inputs like textures.
And its safe to assume that every shader ends its fragment funciton with a return (r,g,b,a) line so the patcher would just have to find this line and add its alpha testing pass right above it. Of course its not that simple but the theory makes sense, at least to me.

I was really hoping someone would have already done something like this. But sadly I wasnt able to find anything on github. It really is a shame because this is quite a big limitation for asset creators right now I feel.

[proven quail]

Someone who codes stuff do this pls ^

Not me though, sounds like a hassle lmao

[graceful elm]

I did pitch the idea to the vrc fury creator but his mod team shut me down without any explanation on why it would never be implemented, and the creators himself never responded directly. So I dont think that will go anywhere

[proven quail]

If you want something done you have to do it yourself. Be him and learn to code just to create this for the community

[graceful elm]

well I am here asking about this becaue I am basically giving up on that approach. I dont have the time or knowledge to pull something like this of in the near future.

[timber wharf]

patching alpha queue into every shader sounds like a great idea

[graceful elm]

I'll try to throw money at someone and see if that will work tho

[proven quail]

What I need is a patch for lilToon to add hue shift for the emission texture. Having emission texture with different colors on it ruins anything you do by hue shifting the base texture. Poi has emission hue shift but like the shader is so big it makes everything in the project load so much longer I just want lilToon to do the thing

[graceful elm]

doing it for just one specific shader sounds shrimple enough. Especially if the hue shift can reuse the contol parameters that the base color hue shift uses

[hard hatch]

how on earth do I do that though? 😢

[ornate stump]

There're already sample gesture layer in the sample folder from sdk so you can take a look how the mask and the layer itself is configured.

[hard hatch]

none of the layers in there have masks tho, so Im confused

[tiny dock]

this is why you make your own avatars from scratch instead of spreading around the same shitty "bases"

[proven quail]

I feel like if you have a mesh cut base so it’s sfw you should not be in trouble just because the texture still has nipples. Like NO ONE can see that. It’s literally cut from the mesh you are just making more barriers to avatar creation.

[open spindle]

Most people aren't good at making from scratch stuff btw👍

[neat flume]

how do i fix this brah

[tiny dock]

it's a skill and it's called learning

everything you need to do it is free

[proven quail]

The whole point of bases is to make avatar creation more accessible. So demanding from scratch all the time cuts out a lot of users

[tiny dock]

when every avatar is a base and all of them are unoptimized it gets to a point

[open spindle]

Finally someone smart🥹

[proven quail]

So go to the fbx of the avatar and look at the rig, some of the needed bones aren’t mapped to the humanoid rig

[round comet]

I think its perfectly fine to use premade assets. Of course making stuff from scratch is awesome, but its a learning process

So is optimization and stuff like that

[graceful elm]

most people have a job, They dont have time to learn avatar creation for 2 years just to make the character they want, please dont gate keep. This is coming from someone that does 3D modeling professionally

[open spindle]

This as well

[tiny dock]

i'm probably just biased i hate public instance avatars

[graceful elm]

You are very biased yes

[round comet]

A lot of those are uber unoptimized tbf but everyone is just learning

And thats how you improve. Plus buying assets supports creators

[proven quail]

Some these Avis are crazy but like you don’t have to look at them, they can be hidden automatically so

[tiny dock]

not really learning if you do the same thing over and over

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot what you see in that layer?

[tiny dock]

second point is fair

[round comet]

I’m talking about people who take time and care into improving their work, but yeah

[graceful elm]

Theres not a single game with user created content that has optimzed models. I am sorry but that just how it goes with amature creators. Youre expecting too much.

[tepid hill]

hey i got a question i figured wed find people to commission on here which channel would that be in i wanna commission someone for a mayu

[round comet]

You may wanna refer to vrctraders as you’ll most likely get scam dms from here

[proven quail]

If someone wants to improve, you need to start somewhere. The best place to start is by working with already complete models, and then increasing the amount of changes and how much backend work you put into it

[open spindle]

Id love to expand my stuff out to the fuzz

[tepid hill]

oh ok

[proven quail]

Of course ppl who don’t want to learn won’t, but assets and bases make the learning experience and transition from editing to creating more smooth

[tiny dock]

anyone who reaches out to you is a scammer you need to seek out people to commission yourself

vrctraders is a good place to look

[graceful elm]

This is how I started, back when most avatars were MMD conversion kit bashes, I started with doing just that, now I work at an actual game studio. And laugh at the stuff I used to make haha

[round comet]

Or joining avi servers too ^^

[tiny dock]

true

[open spindle]

And kit bashing is less time consuming both learning and actually making them wise

[graceful elm]

its a lot more appraochable because you get an actual result in a resonable amount of time

[tepid hill]

yeah i know thats why im seeking out for people

[graceful elm]

as a beginner kitbashing a model will take you hours, making one from scratch will likely take you months

[hard hatch]

this is what it looks like on my avatar. I've looked at the same layers on a similar avatar and they look exactly the same, which is why im unsure how this problem even arose.

[tiny dock]

don't do that in public servers you'll get scammed

[ornate stump]

You're looking at FX layer.

[proven quail]

The people who will get joy from creating from scratch will not be fully satisfied at each step. They will constantly want more control and more creative input into the avatar, until they get all the way to total from scratch creation. They need to learn the skills one at a time though, and having results at each step is rewarding learning

[hard hatch]

what should I be looking at?

[proven quail]

The people who respond will likely be scammers tho. You put a target on your back by asking in public servers like this

[ornate stump]

Gesture layer. The one that right above the FX layer in avatar descriptor.

[hard hatch]

this?

[open night]

more of a blender issue but how i fix the eyebrows?

[ornate stump]

Yes. But that isn't the content of the gesture layer. You have to check what is inside of the animator contoller.

[proven quail]

Use a shader with alpha mask or transparency/cutout support. Or, you can cut the mesh with the knife tool to be the correct shape

[hard hatch]

I'm confused what you mean by this. How do I find where that is? i'm completely new to this part of avatar creation lol.

[ornate stump]

This image is showing content of FX layer. So you go find it the same way for Gesture layer.

[open night]

i just need the black box to go away idk how to do that LOL

[proven quail]

Yeah, the black box is the mesh for the eyebrows. The creator likely uses a shader with cutout support and an alpha mask to hide parts of the mesh, making the eyebrows the correct shape. You need to either replicate the shader or something similar or manually cut the black box to look like eyebrows

[hard hatch]

so in this case, I would be looking for the VRCFury gesture controller?

[open night]

when i used to do renders a year ago i had to click a dropdown and that was it so i have 0 clue what any of that means

[ornate stump]

Probably. But if the controller name is VRCFury, that means it had been preprocessed by vrcfury which shouldn't happen unless the avatar is being in testing.

[vapid slate]

im about to crash out.... i was uploading for 30 mins then it canceled and said: "your parameters are too large" HOW DO I FIX THIS BEFORE I BREAK SOMETHINGGGGGGGG-----

[proven quail]

Ok so you have the wrong material on the boxes, find the right material. Or, you might need to create a material.

[hard hatch]

that seems about right, because last night, none of them were vrcfury, but when I opened it today, they changed to vrcfury. but i have no clue why this would even happen.

[ornate stump]

Are you sure you aren't in play mode?

[hard hatch]

im positive

[proven quail]

Do you have vrcfury? They have a parameter compressor I think that should automatically apply when params are too large. Make sure vrcfury is up to date because I don’t remember how new the feature is

[vapid slate]

its a quest avatar... would it affect it or no?

[proven quail]

Just make sure the pc and quest avatar have the same version of vrcfury, and vrcfury should handle the syncing

[vapid slate]

oki

[ornate stump]

I don't have answer why it does that though. But this also had its concern where it's going to be preprocessed by vrcfury again which might not be good.

[vapid slate]

i told my friends that im going to personally find all 3 unity creators and beat them up for making this difficult

[neat flume]

how do i fix this one

[hard hatch]

at this point I'm close to just deleting the avatar file and starting from base again because this whole situation makes no sense and there is literally no reason why any of this should even be happening 🤦‍♂️

[vapid slate]

i got that too, i told it to fk off :')

[ornate stump]

You might just be able to find the original gesture layer file and replace what vrcfury had done.

[hard hatch]

well the issue is that the only animator controller the avatar has is the "MALE" one in the ss I showed you

ive tried setting the gestures to default layer, but still, this does absolutely nothing.

[neat flume]

ok

[fringe wing]

Is unity or vrchat sdk working now?

[late heath]

does anyone know why this happens? i made the completely white avatar and it uses poiyomi toon on pc (this is being recorded on pcvr)

[fringe wing]

Is unity or sdk working for you

[hard hatch]

this is pretty much all I have to work with.

[ornate stump]

Also one important note, you must not put the dummy animations into that layer if you aren't going to use them as animation states, so remove them.

[hard hatch]

As in the ones that don't have a motion? Or the ones that aren't connected to anything? I didn't set this up, so I'm unsure what most of these are even for.

[ornate stump]

It's created when you use the Create Animation Clip in animation panel dropdown menu.

[hard hatch]

So should I just delete the whole layer, since it doesn't do anything?

[ornate stump]

It's better to leave the topmost layer empty, not entirely deleting it.

[hard hatch]

like this?

[ornate stump]

yes

[vapid slate]

this is annoying, i switched platforms over to android and when i click "build and publish" it switches back to windows... any suggestions...?

[ornate stump]

Liltoon shader with fur option.

[lyric compass]

Hi, I'm working with the vrcparent constraint component, and I got it working where a prop will stay in place in the world until grabbed and then parent to either hand. However, I noticed if the avatar moves the props dont reset position when toggled on and off. Anyone know how to do this?

[wanton cedar]

I saw this effect on the monitor (the screen pixels) would that just be an emission setting with a certain png??

no not the game itself

[glass condor]

Hey, y'all know those avatars (usually robots or aliens) that have a thing where their eyes/face/body light up in sync with their voice? (Check out the Convict avatars by butterbunni or some chibi avis for an example)

How do people do that exactly? Is it an animation or a shader thing? Is it a component in unity, or something in Blender? Is it possible to do on Quest? You don't have to answer all of these in detail btw, I'm just curious lol

Oh they're called Voice Activated Emissions...interesting. Leaving this here in case ppl in the future need to know this, makes searching it up on Google much easier.

[balmy barn]

detect viseme or voice activate stuff

[hard hatch]

Yeah this thing is getting dumpstered because literally nothing is working lol

This whole thing is just nonsense

there is just no way to fix this so im just going to toss the whole thing out and restart

[hard hatch]

Great googly moogly

Okay I seem to have solve it

All it took was me admitting defeat

Moral of the story: give up

[hot heron]

Hello, I’m sorry to be bothering you all again with my stupid questions, but how do I get my avatar to not have the tail sticking straight out and unmoving?

^ like, how do I make it move?

The problem is after I uploaded it to vrchat it did that.

[pearl depot]

i believe you put a physbone in the base of the tail, add the component "vrc physbone", and that should be a basic run down of it, there should be better explainations on yt

[hot heron]

Okay, tysm!

[hot heron]

Oh, wait, if I'm adding one, do I add it for all the pieces?

Like, Tail1 through 7 all get a phys bone?

[pearl depot]

JUST the base, if u add it all they are all set to ignore each other and will only make the tip of the tail move

just the tail,

[lilac musk]

Updated 3 avatars, only 1 got the update. API issues I assume? Anyone else having issues?

[wheat veldt]

Could you add me back? I have a quick question

[lilac musk]

^ seems sus. Why wouldn't you just ask the question here?

[pearl depot]

how to make more menus inside of the round menu? like this?

[lilac musk]

You make a menu item that is a target for another menu. So make a second menu and fill it with that

[harsh sand]

Hello! Could i ask you guys something! Does anyone know how to edit what is contained in the radial wheel for customization in vrc?

I would love to learn how to do that! Like being able to delete and add my own emotes i find!

[lilac musk]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/expression-menu-and-controls/

[harsh sand]

Oh! Awesome!!! Thank you so much!!

I see!

[balmy barn]

vrchat default layout, just add more using VRCEmote

[harsh sand]

Thank you guys again! Ill have to try that out and see what I can do!

[winged bluff]

I have a question, is it possible to turn off expressions when speaking?

[balmy barn]

detect voice disable expression (2nd parameter)

[winged bluff]

Oh?

[harsh sand]

Thats actually very cool

[balmy barn]

its like that except use Voice as second paramter less then 0.25 something ( replace the gesture-set bool)

[winged bluff]

I ask because the visemes from an expression and the voice do not mix well

[harsh sand]

I actually can see how that would work now that im lookin at it, it seems pretty straightforward! Is it possible to make it go under a specific category, like if you have gogo loco?

[winged bluff]

Thank you

[lilac musk]

These new players all seem like bots

Weird times

[final kraken]

Help I'm getting failed when trying to open a new project and on open projects it refuses to allow me to updat to latest sdk or any of my repos

[final kraken]

nvm fixed!

[lethal flower]

Is unity 2019 in the bucket now? I wanted to go back and upload an old avi after it was broken for some time (just some toggles) and It won't work.

[heavy ingot]

vrcfury isnt popping up and im trying to manually install but i get this error, what do i do?

i have vrcfury in my repositories

but its not popping up at all.

[olive yoke]

What layer is the avatar capsule colliders on? and is self and remote user's different

[heavy ingot]

hi, im struggling with adding vrcfury, i have it in my project menu, and repository but it does not show up in unity at all, nor would gesture manager, i had to manually install gesture manager for it to show up, im at a loss and dont know what else to do.

[hard hatch]

If I have a certain mesh that I want to export from blender instead of the whole fbx, would I even be able to do that, and if so, how?

[arctic ginkgo]

Personally what I like to do is create separate blendshapes for the mouth expression and eye expression so I can turn off the mouth expression while speaking but keep the eyes

[arctic ginkgo]

Select just that mesh, then in the export settings click the option to export only selected

It should be in the top right

[winged bluff]

The character doesn't really... have eyes?

Like he does but they are an unmoving 2D plane

It's the mouth expressions messing with his voice visemes

[hard hatch]

okay. I'm trying to get it so that I can export ONLY the changes i'm making to a specific mesh in the fbx, without messing up anything else. would it still work the same way you explained?

i keep trying to export only the mesh but for some reason, in untity, whenever I swap the mesh from the original to the edited version, it just disapears

and when I exported the whole fbx from blender, everything else disapeared and I had to replace all of the meshes back to their original meshes

so something during the export process is making it so that when they are switched in untiy, the meshes just disapear for some reason.

[somber sequoia]

did you unpack your avatar prefab in Unity?

if so, overwriting the .fbx won't work - drag a new copy into the scene and transfer things over to it, and don't unpack.

[umbral oriole]

you are supposed to add vrcfury usual;y through vcc i would recommend going to the vrcfury website Add to vcc then in your progect packages on vcc add vrcfury it should work properly then

wait do you have the avatar sdk in your project too?

[umbral oriole]

question is the mesh you are talking apart originally part of the avatar in which case you would also need to export that fbx with the armature cause it wont just automaticly work on the avatar

then use armature link and you should be fine

[sudden meadow]

Can anybody tell me what this means

[umbral oriole]

unless it stops you from uploading your avatar you can ignore these

[sudden meadow]

well i might have found it out

cuz it stop it and then i look back at sum

now it acting normal

odd

it was a success nvm

lord

[umbral oriole]

i get random errors like that often when working on avis you only really need to pay attention to the ones that stop you from uploading the avatar

[sudden meadow]

it cuz i didnt add windows to the build and upload

[umbral oriole]

you will waste your time trying to fix them if they arent really and issue

[sudden meadow]

thats all

[dark jay]

stupid question, is it a bad idea to low quality textures after dropping it to 2k or 1k for booth models? and would it make a difference in quality
like a big difference?
was thinking of doing it to get mb size down a little

[umbral oriole]

dropping down to 1k in most cases wont cause a huge drop in quality so go for it if you are really concerned about space

[violet summit]

Hi, i'm having trouble with vrchat creator companion. I reinstalled everything including unity. After doing that, everything was working again. And then a couple days later which was yesterday, it doesnt want to install any of the packages. It was doing that the first time but then I fixed it from reinstalling everything. What do I do? 😭

[somber sequoia]

#creator-companion may be more useful

[violet summit]

I posted there and no one has said anything 🙃

[sudden meadow]

now im having download issues

[dark jay]

how about 2k and lq

[somber sequoia]

just a sugestion, that's all

[umbral oriole]

honestly stopped using vcc a while ago i usde Alcom now and it works better

[dark jay]

how about crunch compression

[umbral oriole]

if your issue persisits look into using alcom had a lot less issues with it

[umbral oriole]

size wise the difference in minimal

why do you want to reduce the texture size?

[violet summit]

Never heard of that. What is it?

[dark jay]

i have 3 outfits on my booth model plus a skin texture swap for wet skin on my booth model its 74 mb

[dark jay]

73.62mb to be exact andf i do have a few emotes

maybe i can get it lower before i add a 4th outfit set

i had another outfit but removing it only really dropped almostt 10mb

[umbral oriole]

its basicly vcc but better and a lot easier to use for someone like me that has a lot of packages and plug ins for unity

ill send a link

[violet summit]

Alright

[umbral oriole]

so you are trying to optimize the avatar

hmm my only recommendation would be drasticly reducing exture size for accessories since they are small you wont notice

[violet summit]

Does it say how to connect it to your vrc account?

[umbral oriole]

https://vrc-get.anatawa12.com/en/alcom/

[umbral oriole]

its unity that conects to your vrchat account not vcc

vcc just helps with managing packages

[violet summit]

Ohhh okay. Thank you!

[dark jay]

ah ok i do have things that have no textures and just uses matcaps

does crunch compression decrease mb size much

[proven quail]

I'd does if you crunch everything

Like all the textures

[dark jay]

does it make it lower quality? never understood crunch compression

[umbral oriole]

you can reduce the size of the matcap texture too by a lot

[proven quail]

Sometimes you don’t even notice, sometimes it’s very noticeable drop in quality. Just depends

[dark jay]

ok

[cyan swan]

its not uploading

im helping @fringe wing

[proven quail]

Find the asset “panties_0” and use the button at the top in the inspector to correct the object name.

[cyan swan]

ok

[somber sequoia]

where'd you get this avatar?

[cyan swan]

the person gave it to me

they said they got base from imvu and got the clothes from vrc creators

is that ok?

since game ripped models are ALL OVER vrc

like mario and pokemon and stuff

not ripped from vrc itself

@somber sequoia

ik where she got the hair from

she did edit it a lil i think

[somber sequoia]

if this is a paid base or paid assets, and you didn't pay then nope, not ok. It's got a few clues that suggest it's ripped.

[cyan swan]

imvu u pay with fictional currency

not real money

[somber sequoia]

what?

[cyan swan]

imvu is another game

[somber sequoia]

oh I see

[cyan swan]

is that ok

[somber sequoia]

I don't know what it is, so can't really comment on it

[cyan swan]

ok ty

to me its like ripping from genshin and customizing

since u can combine with vrc assets

and you see ALOT of ripped genshin on vrc

not even edited genshin most of the time

[cyan swan]

ok turns out they prob used the default base from imvu with other assets, either from imvu or creators, so if the assets are paid on like gumroad, ill buy them

[timber wharf]

you dont need to rip from genshin, mihoyo uploads their characters models openly for non-commercial sfw usage

[cyan swan]

oh ok

what about pokemon?

[timber wharf]

but theyre kinda an exception so while ok with genshin its not okay with almost anythig else

[cyan swan]

ive seen game rips from various games

they dont usually get taken down unless nsfw publics, offensive, hateful

etc

right?

[timber wharf]

ye, just noone complained and not even nintendo reached depth of vrc yet afaik, doesnt make it legal. people would mostly be upset with ripping vrc creators assets.

[cyan swan]

ik but imvu isnt vrc

[timber wharf]

so asking is it fine - no, neither is uploading nintendo rips.

can you get away with it? probably

[cyan swan]

its similar but the assets are bought with virtual currency like robux

not direct money

ok ty

as long as i dont get banned its ok

[junior void]

well, i found the wings on a ripped avatar just now

[cyan swan]

imvu?

or vrc

if vrc i didnt know it was ripped

[junior void]

no a vrchat avatar

on a ripper site

[cyan swan]

hers?

oh ok

[junior void]

yes these exact wings

[cyan swan]

ok ill have to tell her i cant do her avi

is it originally for vrc?

[junior void]

its still possible these wings are some free asset from somewhere and just happen to be on that but i highly doubt it really

[cyan swan]

ok

i told her to remove

again imvu ripping is a lil better than vrc ripping right? since u customize your avi with the assets, theres no complete avis on there, the avatar section is just poses

i think

[junior void]

realistically, you have to look at imvu tos and their way of looking at things

[cyan swan]

ok

[junior void]

asking vrchat people what they think about ripping assets from another game always gives you mixed answers

[cyan swan]

ok ty

[snow valve]

Hello, I'm quite new to Unity and every time I've, been trying to upload an avatar it says this and I'm not sure how to fix it. Appreciate it if i can get some help

[junior void]

just fyi also, i found the wings by themselves on the same ripper site but cant find a legit link

legit as in a way to buy

[cyan swan]

https://ifair.gumroad.com/l/sdljc

found this