avatar-help

[chilly solar]

for optimizing my avi, does it care about the amount of actual image textures or is it just the material slots? either or, how would i better optimize that?

[blissful magnet]

Perfect, this is useable with expression menu toggles and supports alphas?

[junior acorn]

alright fine here is the full error message
crossed out the file name because im not leaking it

[bitter dune]

Fixed it by switching to fbx instead

[somber sequoia]

great, now show the actual bone hierarchy.

[junior acorn]

basic ahh armature be like:

the leg is the problem i think

[valid marsh]

Why is my tail red? I'm using Standard Lite and Bumped Diffuse still has a red tail, only making it something outside of VRChat/Mobile fixes it but those aren't supported

[somber sequoia]

yeah this isn't a proper armature for vrchat. Now show us the rig setup page where the bones are in the slots.

[junior acorn]

i dont know how to do that-

[somber sequoia]

find the model file, click it, look in the inspector, rig tab, click "configure"

but probably the armature will need to be reworked so it's like the diagram pinned in #avatar-rigging

[somber sequoia]

could be vertex colors, some of those shaders take those into account

[valid marsh]

What should i do about that?

Not good with the terms and stuff

[somber sequoia]

remove them if they're present - there should be tutorials. I know you can with blender, and I think with VRC Quest Tools

[junior acorn]

ohhhhhhhhhh, THAT armature...

never knew

lol

ok i'll try to rework the armature then!!

[somber sequoia]

that is a correct one, yes. Deviate from this and VRChat's humanoid IK isn't going to work

(note that upper chest is optional)

[plucky drum]

so im setting up the eye look on my avatar and after setting up the up and down position it looks like its asking me to select up and down blendshapes? whats the purpose of the 2 selections at the bottom if ive already set up the up and down eyelook in the menu above it?

[somber sequoia]

eyelids

it's optional

just set them to none if you don't use them

[plucky drum]

oh, alright

thankyou

[valid marsh]

Worked, thanks

[junior acorn]

yep, it worked

now i need to figure out how to get the uhh materials in

[somber sequoia]

you don't get them in, you make them fresh in Unity. Textures you get in though.

[junior acorn]

im not a unity expert how do i do that 😭

[somber sequoia]

there are loooooots of tutorials for stuff, but in the menu I believe assets -> create -> material

[modern pumice]

REPOST: Can anyone help me with telling me why World Constraints are not updating globally? It works as intended locally but when another person is introduced it seems the constraints are still locked and following the model. I've tried using the new VRC Constraints System and the older method but still get the same results.

[waxen cipher]

when i put the parameter menu on my model i get this error IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array.
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.ValidateFeatures (VRC.SDKBase.VRC_AvatarDescriptor avatar, UnityEngine.Animator anim, VRC.SDKBase.Validation.Performance.Stats.AvatarPerformanceStats perfStats) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:776)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.OnGUIAvatarCheck (VRC.SDKBase.VRC_AvatarDescriptor avatar) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:475)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.CreateValidationsGUI (UnityEngine.UIElements.VisualElement root) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:253)
VRCSdkControlPanel.RunValidations () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.base/Editor/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/ControlPanel/VRCSdkControlPanelBuilder.cs:883)
VRCSdkControlPanel+<>cDisplayClass204_0.<ShowBuilders>b1 () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.base/Editor/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/ControlPanel/VRCSdkControlPanelBuilder.cs:822)
UnityEngine.UIElements.VisualElement+SimpleScheduledItem.PerformTimerUpdate (UnityEngine.UIElements.TimerState state) (at <332857d8803a4878904bcf8f9581ec33>:0)

seems to be linked to the parameters because when i remove that i dont have the error never seen it before not sure how to fix it but im unable to upload the model aswell

[barren slate]

Is this when you upload?

[waxen cipher]

@barren slate its a console error , i dont get an actual popup but i cant upload with the error

[barren slate]

Not sure, I personally use the VRLabs World Object thingy and use a parent constraint to that object

[barren slate]

Are you using a value outside the range of 0-255?

[modern pumice]

Yeah that's what I based it off of and it's still the same thing unfortunately :/

[waxen cipher]

no i only have 85 and i also have vrcfury that would compress the toggles is there was to many @barren slate

this is how it looks in the actual console

[mighty widget]

Tryna upload an avatar but its not working and it's telling me errors that make no sense

[round comet]

Oh you’re missing a script (you forgot to import something)

[mighty widget]

😭 what scripttt

[round comet]

it says right in the error at the top of the first photo

If you look at the last few words

[mighty widget]

idk what script im missin

[barren slate]

Syncing problem maybe? Have you tried re-uploading? Not on the same blueprint, but as a new avatar

[barren slate]

Seems to complicated for me tbh, I'm not sure. Please let me know if you find the answer though

[waxen cipher]

yeah me to AHAHAH 🫡

[modern pumice]

I can try!

[barren slate]

We don't know, theres no way to know without importing the scripts. The most common culprates are VRCFury or Dynamic Bones

If you know the avatar creator, ask them

[mighty widget]

okay

[waxen cipher]

@barren slate turns out it was a radial i had setup in a menu but didnt actually make the toggle for yet so it was set to radial with no paramete in the slot , i feel like it could have been worded alot better and i would have known that

[barren slate]

What?? Should really be a check for that

[ebon dirge]

What the heck does this mean and how do I fix it?

[compact kestrel]

i just started looking at the blender model again and the model looks okay?

[modern pumice]

Made a new blueprint and it didn't work sadly

[somber sequoia]

click "configure" on that dialog and rearrange the rig setup - that eye bone seems to have the wrong parent, or maybe you have the wrong bone in the eye bone slot. You'd have to go see what it got by guessing

[ebon dirge]

The eye bone is set to head and I have all the bones in the right slot I triple checked

[somber sequoia]

right but is that actually the right eye bone?

it says it's an eye bone, but with "hold" on it I wonder if it's something funny

also what does the spine hierarchy look like? It should be:
hips -> spine -> chest -> upper chest (optional) -> neck -> head

[ebon dirge]

Nvm I figured it out, the right eye was on the chest and not right eye hold

[somber sequoia]

aha! That'll do it

[ebon dirge]

Thank you so much for your help! You’re a lifesaver!

[somber sequoia]

no problem 🙂

[compact kestrel]

how do i fix this issue..

[somber sequoia]

which issue exactly?

[compact kestrel]

in vrchat it only tposes

[somber sequoia]

is it a humanoid rig?

[compact kestrel]

honestly no clue,, this isnt even my model,,

ive got no idea how rigging or any of this works

[somber sequoia]

ok well that's the thing to check on. Maybe see how many animator layers there are in the avatar descriptor? if it's not humanoid, you'll only see 3

[compact kestrel]

where is the avatar descriptor 😭

[somber sequoia]

avatar root object

I'd suggest watching basic setup tutorials or reading this, if you don't know what that is:
https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/creating-your-first-avatar

[barren slate]

Click the armature in the heirarchy and go to pose mode. Try moving some bones arround

Unless I'm misremembering the problem

[barren slate]

Out of my area of expertise I'm affraid. Only thing I can say is maybe contact official VRChat support if nobody else here knows? 🤷‍♀️

[modern pumice]

That's what I did and they said to come here LMAO

[plucky drum]

trying to test build this avatar but for some reason the mouth hangs open and i have no idea what could be causing it

[somber sequoia]

unmap the jaw bone in the rig setup, if you have one there

[glacial vale]

anyone know what this means?

[plucky drum]

alr

[copper kernel]

Send me a sc of the avatar descriptor @glacial vale

[somber sequoia]

in the avatar descriptor there's a place to choose which mesh object for visemes, yours has nothing in that slot

[copper kernel]

^ what they said

[somber sequoia]

no need for a screenshot

[glacial vale]

here?

[copper kernel]

usually you want to move the face mesh in there

[somber sequoia]

Yes, under the section for lip sync

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/creating-your-first-avatar#viseme-blend-shape-recommended

(happened to have this page in a tab)

[glacial vale]

assuming id just select the head

[somber sequoia]

you select the one with the viseme blendshapes

whatever your avatar uses

[glacial vale]

probably disabled because i renamed the head beacuse of armature issues

[somber sequoia]

probably it's the head

[glacial vale]

selected it as the head but its not going away, would there be other things its used for?

[somber sequoia]

other things what is used for?

[glacial vale]

visemes

[somber sequoia]

no?

[mighty widget]

what does avatar validation failed mean

[somber sequoia]

read the page I linked to understand what they are

[glacial vale]

the warning is still there

[somber sequoia]

perhaps you did not put the right mesh in the slot, feel free to show us an image

[glacial vale]

X

auto detected them

[somber sequoia]

seems like that should work then

[glacial vale]

nvm ignore that, reloaded the SDK

just wasnt budging without a reload

[somber sequoia]

version 3.8 or 3.9 of the SDK?

[glacial vale]

not sure

[somber sequoia]

doesn't matter, was just curious

[glacial vale]

may have to update it but it seems just fine

3.7.something

[somber sequoia]

oh good, probably stay there, later ones seem to be buggy.

[glacial vale]

yeah ive noticed someone else having issues

until it breaks dont fix it

[mighty widget]

gulp....how

[somber sequoia]

add those missing parameters to your avatar parameters list, everything used in menus must be in there

for the record too, that "avatar validation failed" message just means "something broke", it's useless by itself.

[mighty widget]

wheres parameters l;ist?

[somber sequoia]

you'll see it under "expressions" in the avatar descriptor

[mighty widget]

OHGHHH

No work still 😭

[glacial vale]

any way to move armature from 1 avatar to another with scripts attached too?

[timber wharf]

pumpkin avatar tools can move avatar components between avatars. no idea what you mean by moving an armature tho

[somber sequoia]

yeah you don't move armatures if you want it to work.

[glacial vale]

from one project to another, messed up by deleting the wrong "head" because the correct one was "Head1" for some reason

[somber sequoia]

you won't retain the link between mesh and bones

[glacial vale]

have the same avi with different project open on another tab

[somber sequoia]

I'd drag a new avatar into that scene and redo the setup

[glacial vale]

it deleted it off the entire FBX for some reason

[somber sequoia]

oh did you save the change into the avatar prefab? what a weird thing to do.
In that case you'd need to restore that from backup or re-export from blender, depending on your workflow

[unreal smelt]

so i just bought a new avatar and the quest version is just the whole missing shader pink and im not quite sure what to do as i am unsure what the original shaders the creator was using

[exotic mauve]

Hello, I'm having a problem with my avatar. Physbones on chest and hips are not working. The avatar is for PC and has a lot of physbones (over 90) but the physbones for chest and hips aren't working. I tried applying physbones directly to the bones instead of creating an empty object and then connecting. What could be the issue?

[exotic mauve]

If you want to use it for quest, find where the materials are and then apply mobile toonlit shader to them. it should fix the problem.

Vrchat>Mobile>Toonlit

[hushed flume]

could anyone point me in the right direction for what is causing this
only happens after building and testing in both vrc and play mode on unity

[open spindle]

Is anyone else having issues when trying to upload quest the avatar changes mb size to a higher number even though you deleted something?

[odd cairn]

Hey I'm having an issue with a model after editing it in blender.
After editing and exporting the model then putting then placing the edited mesh on the model it just disappears, no wireframe, materials are still on it as well as shaders.
I saved the new fbx next to the original and works fine on it's own in the editor.
Any help is welcome ^^

[ornate stump]

This happens if you unpack avatar fbx prefab in the scene and update its fbx file. You should not unpack prefab.

[odd cairn]

the red one is the one Is the one where I put in the new mesh and it's still a prefab

[ornate stump]

That's "original prefab" which doesn't have direct data link with its fbx prefab. So that still cause incorrect fbx update.

[odd cairn]

Ohhh okay is there a way to get that fixed?

[ornate stump]

Start with the new fbx file and don't unpack or create original prefab out of it.

[vestal sand]

how does this even work ??? im confused ._.
(sorry if i interrupted something)

[indigo compass]

Vertex colors 🌈

[ornate stump]

If you meant color get changed, that's because mobile shader apply vertex color which model has is black.

[indigo compass]

The mesh data itself includes color data for each vertex, it is removable in Blender, it is an attribute, but also with VRCQuestTools https://github.com/kurotu/VRCQuestTools if you want to do it in Unity.

[vestal sand]

how can i fix it mannually ?

[indigo compass]

I just said

[ornate stump]

Manually is removing vertex color attribute in blender.

[indigo compass]

Vertex colors are part of a mesh's attributes in Blender.
VRCQuestTools if you want to do it in Unity.

[vestal sand]

im in blender

[ornate stump]

Just remove color attribute from the vertex data properties.

[vestal sand]

and how do i do it ?
i never touched the vertex paint

[ornate stump]

Look in the "Vertex Data" tab in the property panal.

[vestal sand]

oh

thx

got them gone

[indigo compass]

Guess they separated it again, remember it confusingly being under attributes as a general thing annoyingly in the past.

[vestal sand]

got it

thanks again! ^^

[balmy barn]

newer sdk quest shader just a tick

way more options too

[indigo compass]

Wish they would revamp standard lit with it and other things too, sometimes toon standard just doesn't look right.

[fervent merlin]

how do i actually center my avatar to the floor because i know the orange dot is supposed to be at the avatar's feet but it doesn't move

[proven quail]

You can make toon standard look like standard lite with a custom shadow ramp

It does everything standard lite does but more and better

[indigo compass]

Was shadow ramp a texture in this case or just a slider, because playing around with the sliders never made it close.

[proven quail]

A texture

[fervent merlin]

oh hey now its stuck there

well, i guess that works

i think the orange dot is just to show that you're selecting something

[proven quail]

I'm trying to find a ready made shadow ramp texture on Google but it's too specific to find I think. Might have to make one

[fervent merlin]

well

i dont think anything changes

[indigo compass]

Ah, well, at least good to know it is possible, I assume a shadow ramp for realistic shadows would just be a white black gradient

[fervent merlin]

i thought you arent supposed to move the XYZ of the avatar

[proven quail]

Yep. It's the spacing between the colors that makes the difference. Maybe I'll play around with it later

[indigo compass]

Only if it is in the right spot, which your isn't

[fervent merlin]

mine goes in the ground still but if i move it up manually using xyz it works

does that still matter or does the cursor matter more

[indigo compass]

Think you just have to move it up (press g+y)

[fervent merlin]

Like this?

[indigo compass]

The orange dot is the origin of the mesh (if you have multiple meshes on that avatar then each one has their own origin, it escapes me in the moment but pretty sure the armature has its own origin as well, all should be at 0 0 0)

[indigo compass]

And now do as I showed in screenshot, set the origin to the cursor

[fervent merlin]

aha

that did it

now im finally getting somehwere

ok i just imported it in unity but it shows that the z axis is still 2 and not 0

nvm

fixed

[timber wharf]

🤓 ☝️ actually only armature should be at 0 0 0, having meshes at their center or whatever is fine and even usefull for rotating stuff

[fervent merlin]

the nerdinator... dun dun dudududun...

[indigo compass]

Didn't know that, makes sense (I have had offset origins, but not thought about it), thanks.

[fervent merlin]

ok test #1 leets go

okay

there is clearly something wrong with this avatar

for one thing, its invisible, my collisions and proportions are all over hte place

and turning moves my entire body like a circle

dafuq!!

[indigo compass]

Avatars not made for VRChat can be weird or straight up not work.
But I think one of your issues is that you have a camera on the avatar imported from blender.

[fervent merlin]

i actually removed the camera and light things form blender

these are the only errors i got

i wanted to atleast get to testing stage before it completely brroke

[indigo compass]

You should check the rigging (click avatar file below, go to rig and configure it if you aren't)

[fervent merlin]

rigging appears fine

[indigo compass]

So how does the hierarchy look like in Unity?

[fervent merlin]

this

how i have mine setup rn

fingers are omitted

i think it might be because im using the top spine as a chest because well, roblox avatars obviously do not have a chest bone

[indigo compass]

Easier for you to show this than explain it because I am a bit confused
shift+win+s and assuming you are on Windows 11 then at the top there will be a bar that will allow you to swtich to video recording, highlight an area by dragging a box and after done it can just be copy pasted here.

[fervent merlin]

im on android

i can get a rec rq

if u want

here

one thing i will add tho, rigging was a complete pain for me due to the fact that rigify doesnt have a chest

multiple hours of tinkering

so it might be because of that

[indigo compass]

uh.
Not seen that issue before tbh.
Kind of looks like the origin of the avatar is elsewhere from the head and body.

[fervent merlin]

yeah true

wait is the entire avatar supposed to have 0,0,0 pos

[indigo compass]

So I am completely blind, but if the armature (and the bones aren't weirdly offset) and root of the avatar aren't in the same place then donno

[fervent merlin]

like

[indigo compass]

The root yeah

[fervent merlin]

even the insides

[indigo compass]

wdym?

[fervent merlin]

ok

[indigo compass]

"insides"

[fervent merlin]

like this

[indigo compass]

Well, that should be the root of the armature, hips should be the first child of it.

If you made spine hips then that could be wonky

[fervent merlin]

this is hwere hte hips are

[indigo compass]

Normal avatars in Unity have it setup, ideally, like this.
*AvatarName

• Armature

  •    Hips
    

  •        Left leg
    

  •        Right leg and etc
    

• Body (the mesh)
• Other meshes or prefabs etc . . .

[fervent merlin]

armature

aka the spine

[indigo compass]

I know it might be possible to do without the root armature bone, but I also know it isn't recommended

[fervent merlin]

i prob miffed it up

i dont see whats wrong with it tho

oh

well

thats not supposed to happe

[indigo compass]

This is outside my area of expertise so not sure I can really provide more assistance, not yet had to make a rig from scratch myself.
Uncertain if the lacking armature parent is the only problem, but it is something wrong.
Not terribly difficult to just add a new bone in Blender to be the new hip, just while editing the armature add a new bone and then parent spine to it.

[balmy barn]

that rig is a mess, too many spines and neck bones , wierd arms not connected to anything

more like this would work

[bitter wolf]

Anyone know how to fix visemes being active on upload (mouth is open,) it works fine in gesture manager, but in game it always messes up.

I've already tried remaking the descriptor multiple times, reimported the model, checked if it somehow gained a jaw bone and made sure my blendshapes and animations aren't conflicting.

Even tried reloading the sdk and restarting unity.

[fervent merlin]

armature?

but "spine" is my hips

[balmy barn]

can name it whatever just easier for unity to auto assign

[fervent merlin]

no im syaing im missing "armature"

hips is parented in armature in that screenshot

meanwhile my avi is set up like this

its armature needed or is armature just the hips

[ornate stump]

Armature is a container object of every bone, so it's technically required.

[fervent merlin]

oh

mine doesnt have that

which is

weird

[ornate stump]

It could be the armature object is named Spine. Or it simply your model doesn't have armature at all but instead rely on object hierarchy. As commonly for roblox model.

[ornate stump]

If you screenshot object hierarchy in blender, that would answer it.

[ornate stump]

The armature is named metarig.

[fervent merlin]

oh

ok

[somber sequoia]

head should be a child of the neck bone

[slender tundra]

imported this fortnite model to unity and have no idea how to get the shoes back

figured it out

[fervent merlin]

wdytm

back

unity or blender?

[somber sequoia]

Oh sorry, I should actually drink my coffee, that's a mesh object.

[slender tundra]

anyone know how i would go about adding the sort of led lighting that runs throughout her outfit?

[somber sequoia]

emissions of course, some more advanced shaders can do moving textures/patterns/etc.

[slender tundra]

are there any in particular youd recommend? :O

[somber sequoia]

I usually use Poiyomi for this

[slender tundra]

alrighty thank you!!

[frail vessel]

does anybody know why my unity looks like this?

[ornate stump]

You zoomed in Game panel. If you screenshot the entire screen, the answer will be more solid.

[frail vessel]

in scene mode the avatar is invisible tho and red in the hierarchy

[slender tundra]

now my problem is that i have no idea how to get the lighting effect in these lines

like this

[ornate stump]

Screenshot?

[frail vessel]

i fixed it, i didnt have the prefab set

[ornate stump]

Do you mean the RGB strips ot specular shine?

[slender tundra]

both maybe? i have the textures for them im just lost on how to implement them

[ornate stump]

You definitely have to use more customizable shader than the Standard. Poiyomi for example.

[slender tundra]

i am dw, im still trying to figure out where i would even start

[ornate stump]

Start with the Emission and its hueshift option.

[slender tundra]

well the issue im facing is that the parts that are meant to be lit up are connected to the body texture itself, idk if thats even something i can fix lmao

[ornate stump]

That's a job for "Mask" so the feature only applies to the masked part.

[slender tundra]

emission mask?

[ornate stump]

Of course. Other features also have their own mask.

[slender tundra]

okie dokie i'll fool around with that, thank you!

[somber sequoia]

I'd probably either use Poiyomi's pathing feature or make a mask to define where the emission happens, and a map that's some sort of rainbow/plasma texture that is panning.

it'll be fun once you get started

[white jungle]

Is there a way to save or export the fbx's muscle settings so they can be re-loaded later? I need to reset my armature after scaling a few bits, but if I can avoid having to manually re-enter every single parameter that would be really nice lol

[somber sequoia]

In the main rig setup page I thought you could copy from an existing avatar, but I haven't actually verified this works

[white jungle]

oh very interesting, I missed that drop-down. I'll dig into it and keep an eye open for issues - thanks!

[somber sequoia]

I'll be curious to know if it works!

[slender tundra]

so i made an emission map, any way i could change from plain white?

[ornate stump]

Set the emission color of course.

Or put something in emission map slot.

[slender tundra]

well the problem is its a mixture of yellow and pink

[lyric sonnet]

anyone know what the name of this avi is?

[ornate stump]

Put something in emission map slot and see what it does.

[slender tundra]

lmao i had my mask in the map slot

[fervent merlin]

the blender part isnt configured like that

my bones are in the pose not armature

[hollow quiver]

Hello everyone I am looking for a specific discord server called The Lewd Market if anyone has it can they drop the invite link thanks

[lyric sonnet]

how do i fix this?

[balmy barn]

transfer weight from body in blender , join meshes 🐧 (unity way ?pass onto next person)

[slender tundra]

all that work just to build and test and have broken hands

is there anyway i could fix the wonky hands? i forgot to snap a photo while i was in vr

[balmy barn]

make bones straight / end at where it should bend - bones should be in middle of fingers mesh or you can get funny crumpled ones

can try proxy2 for fingers instead of default wich is more of a claw

[bitter adder]

I have a custom animation walk/run animation but my head will be stationary is there away for the head to play the animation?

[waxen parcel]

trying to take a vroid, make a hat toggle and fix the textures on something that isnt seperate layers while also converting to vrchat and im struggling because alot of guides show the layers on a model while it doesnt convert them properly so i cant make the toggle and the textures are mostly in 1 and i need help idk what im doing ;o;

i have the iq of a dead fly orz

[somber sequoia]

upper chest should be above chest - as in, between chest and neck

[lyric sonnet]

Do i have to use blender to add clothes to a model?

[somber sequoia]

if they aren't rigged, or need to be reshaped to fit the model, probably.
If they're made specifically for that model and rigged then maybe not

[lyric sonnet]

awesome thanks

[lyric sonnet]

making a custom minase, i'm never wearing a eboy avi again

[lyric sonnet]

can someone hmu and fix this for me please

[proud trout]

is it rigged and fit to that model?

only happens when i use any emulator

tried to enforse tpose as well

[proven quail]

Did you install modular avatar in the project? A lot of booth stuff used that for unity clothing attachment

[glass condor]

Is anyone else having issues with their avatar audio being TOO quiet after the latest SDK updates? Normalizing the audio and using a different file type DOES NOT work, and I maxed out the volume on a few tests, still makes no difference.

[proud trout]

im hearing some issues regarding the new sdk as well, specifically with modular and vrcfury

[glass condor]

omg if that's the case, vrc needs to fix it or vrcfury/modular needs to update, bc it's so annoying trying to add emotes and everything is so damn quiet

[proud trout]

were u using something like that to add the sounds?

[glass condor]

yeah...well, regarding vrcfury, I only used it to toggle on the audio. Could it still be affected?

[proud trout]

could possibly if it's specifically related to the sdk update. idk fs, but im in some creators servers and they've mentioned that the new sdk is breaking parts of modular and vrcfury

this also goes with if its not world specific or something hardware/software related

[glass condor]

sheesh
guess im not adding emotes until we see a fix 😭

[glass condor]

cuz if I add emotes with cute dancer, they're loud enough, but with vrcfury, it's so muffled

[proud trout]

yaa idk i saw someone mention it and i use vrcfury a lot along with a lot of features that vrcfury relies on so im not even bothering til its clear

[proud trout]

probably new sdk update related then

or vrcfury update idk if they updatrd anytjing tho id recommend asking in their official server

[glass condor]

I'll probably go ask in the official to see if anyone else is struggling too

[lyric sonnet]

they do? lemme try that

[lyric sonnet]

yooo wtf your an actual life saver

[waxen parcel]

if anyone has experience converting vroid to vrchat i need help optimizing, converting and making a toggle

cuz this isn't good

also, conversion merges the hat onto my character but still lags behind the model

[balmy barn]

vroid > blender > unity > vrchat , you will have a way more optimized model

vrm converter in unity leaves a mess

[waxen parcel]

guess ill have to commission some1 to fix it then cuz yeah x.x

would be safer than me tinkering with stuff i dont understand

[balmy barn]

#avatar-general message its a few clicks , can optimize it alot more when you learn stuff - bone grouping is very handy to keep components down and merging bones for less transforms

getting a vrm to good/medium is pretty easy

[waxen parcel]

its a commissioned vtuber model they edited in blender too

so ig im mostly scared of ruining it but ill do my best thank you

[balmy barn]

880 collision count shows they have no clue how to use physbone angle limits

rare you need a collider unless you want something to lay ontop of something

[brittle condor]

I’ve figured out how to toggle an object that can follow me with VRCFury, but I can’t find a clear explanation as to how I can make that object animated (like, when my avatar walks it also has a walking animation). How do I achieve this?

[balmy barn]

detect your velocity (movement) tell other thing to animate , how id do it

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/animator-parameters/#built-in-parameters

no vrcfury only does basic things, you'd need to do it manually far as i know

not really a thing i use so if it has it 🤷‍♂️

[brittle condor]

Would I put this on my avatar or the object I want animated?

[balmy barn]

would be fx on your avatar , then animate from it to something else (path need to be correct), cant talk to another animator

can use constraints but that depends on how its setup

[waxen parcel]

cant even get cats to install right 🤡

[somber sequoia]

make sure you have the right version

[waxen parcel]

i am its saying policy violation

😫

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what that means

[waxen parcel]

i have a tech curse i swear

theres more but yeah

[somber sequoia]

still don't know what that is even coming from

[waxen parcel]

i installed from disk and it does this

[somber sequoia]

probably version of blender is relevant here.

[waxen parcel]

i installed version for 5.0 blender cuz have 5.0 blender on steam

[somber sequoia]

is there a version of cats which supports blender 5?

[waxen parcel]

cuz i always forget to update my software

[somber sequoia]

oh hey they just released one yesterday

make sure you have that version

[waxen parcel]

yeah the latest build uses blender 5.0

[somber sequoia]

half my add-ons don't yet support blender 5

[waxen parcel]

man thulen do u do cheap comms to fix and convert and add a hat toggle cuz im fighting air here xD

[somber sequoia]

oh I guess it's only two

[lime gorge]

welp my avatar has a feet-floating-off-ground flaw. (feet arent fully on ground)

[ebon dirge]

Quick question, how do I put more than one submenu into the same submenu? Like two guns with separate submenus for each and putting those submenus in a weapons submenu

[fading python]

So i bought an avatar but it’s claiming it’s too big to be uploaded, the download size is too large for vrchat this is the quest build for it though

How can i reduce it?

[left gull]

that first warning will also prevent uploading (so find those materials and change them to one under VRChat/Mobile) but try lowering the texture resolution, this vid by liindy shows how to

VRCFury's blendshape optimizer is pretty good too but using something like Thry's avatar performance tool will tell you whats taking up the most space on the model so you can fix that

and id contact that model's creator about the fact it doesnt actually work for quest out of box (alot of creators are lazy with keeping their stuff updated or will outright break ToS to make their stuff work sadly but informing them might make them fix it)

[viral whale]

Hey so i have a spring joint asset and when i added it to my avatar i was able to get it to work and everything but when i went to use VRCFury to toggle object it off it wont work. If I have it set to have the toggle to turn it on then i cant see or turn it on and if i have it set to turn it off then i can see it but cant turn it off

[balmy barn]

spring joint still not a thing vrchat use

[waxen parcel]

Darn getting spam friend reqs and dms but no help for converting the model

Pain

[viral whale]

I've had them on multiple that ive bought? Maybe pring joint is the wrong name for them but i got it for vrchat avatars so i imagine it has to work

They are like flow toys

[balmy barn]

every time i hear spring joint i think of the mmd physics , otherwise its just a physbone with some immobility

[fading python]

Thanks i’ll try see if any of those work, i have two models from the same creator and they both (For the quest side) is large for it’s side but the pc side is a breeze

[viral whale]

Im talking about when you have a detached object that will move around around your hand with effects that follow

[buoyant lake]

Yeah those are also called spring joints.

You might need to manually make a toggle for it if VRCFury isn't working.

[viral whale]

Yeahhhhh and i dont know how to do that. Ig time for youtube

i coulnt find an answer originally upong goggle search but ig i never thought about it being a vrcfury problem xD

[buoyant lake]

I think your parameters are not correct either, if it's toggling on but not visible and vice versa

And if it's not turning off that's usually a Write Defaults thing

You can try adding a VRCFury Fix Write Defaults script and set it to Auto or Force On to see if that fixes.

[somber sequoia]

you can use spring joints with rigid bodies on avatars, that's how all those poi balls work.

"spring bones" is probably what you were thinking of

[somber sequoia]

I'd have to go look but I think spring joints don't do well if you disable the game object by default, but you can disable the renderer for the object at the springy end of it

one of my avatars has one but I honestly forget which one it is or if I've even opened that project in a year

[livid idol]

Guys help, bro keeps twirling funny

[wanton cedar]

Is there a way to stop my avatar from going bowlegged? All of the bones are at 0 rotation and are generally straight

[somber sequoia]

probably but without investigating why it's doing that it's hard to provide advice

maybe show us images?

[wanton cedar]

yeah i was getting to that

pc is being so freaking slow

[somber sequoia]

bone roll on all those humanoid bones is 0?

[wanton cedar]

yes

I didnt put anything fancy on it in unity either

[somber sequoia]

can you show an image of it bowlegged? is this with FBT?

[wanton cedar]

I can see if i can get my friend to try it on. Its usually without the fbx when you arent standing stick straight

the legs just kinda bend inwards

or outwards when they want

[somber sequoia]

"without the fbx"?

[wanton cedar]

fbt

sorry im doing things

[somber sequoia]

oh ok

[wanton cedar]

Trying to beat all of my apps before they pop up in my face and cut me off

[fervent merlin]

ok

reordering right now

im not sure if left shoulder should go in neck tho as described in the picture

[wanton cedar]

when standing the knees do this sometimes

[fervent merlin]

mine is in upper chest

[somber sequoia]

what's wrong with this though?

[somber sequoia]

Shoulders should be children of the higher of chest or upper chest

[fervent merlin]

it is

okay thanks

[bright vapor]

What could be causing this?

It works fine in standard, but standard lite it causes this weird all black thing to happen

[fervent merlin]

alright

i now have the rig as described in the picture

[wanton cedar]

I heard this was unnatural

[brittle condor]

Still need guidance with making my avatar’s toggled object match her movements. I have VRCfury added via gogoloco, and the object in question has an animator

[fervent merlin]

this should work

de

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[somber sequoia]

ok that one is weird

[somber sequoia]

we don't know what "this" you mean, please explain what is not how you want it to be.

[fervent merlin]

ok i think this is good

[bright vapor]

#avatar-help message

[fervent merlin]

what yall think would this work chat

that looks like that shi would work u feel!

[somber sequoia]

yes, I read that, but again, what should it be doing?

[somber sequoia]

no - chest and upper chest are swapped. But those are just names.

[bright vapor]

not be all black 😭 ? there's a texture in the albedo slot showing the exact opposite of black

[fervent merlin]

ohj what

[bright vapor]

under standard it looks like this

[fervent merlin]

wdym

[somber sequoia]

Got it - then it's probably due to vertex colors, with that shader

[fervent merlin]

you mean the name?

[bright vapor]

?

[somber sequoia]

upper chest should be above chest, as in higher on the body, not the hierarchy.

With it labeled like that you need chest in unity's upper chest slot, and upper chest in unity's chest slot 🙂

[fervent merlin]

it is

[somber sequoia]

Yes, that shader will multiply vertex colors with your other color

[wanton cedar]

Yeah thats what im saying 😭

[bright vapor]

then it's fine, you'll just want to swap the names for less confusion

[fervent merlin]

why tho

isnt chest a parent of upperchest

[somber sequoia]

the actual spine hierarchy looks fine, just your names are backwards from what unity will want.

[bright vapor]

I dont follow, changing the color doesnt change anything

[fervent merlin]

i did them exactly as in the pictyure i got sent so

[somber sequoia]

yours is the reverse of this though

[bright vapor]

actually, taking off the albedo doesnt change anything either

[fervent merlin]

how

this is upperchest and chest

upperchest is well, more upper

[somber sequoia]

vertex colors are literally colors on the vertices applied in blender or similar, you can't see them there, and changing the albedo texture does not help. You need to remove the vertex colors in blender or something like VRC Quest Tools, assuming that's what the issue is

[somber sequoia]

I'm looking at your bone hierarchy, not the bone locations.

[bright vapor]

these should be swapped around in hierarchy

[fervent merlin]

oh mb

[somber sequoia]

you have hips -> spine -> upper chest -> chest, but it should be hips -> spine -> chest -> upper chest

[fervent merlin]

so chest first?

[bright vapor]

you can just change the names, so it doesnt really matter

[fervent merlin]

oh

i didnt know that

okay

[bright vapor]

How do i clear the vertex color?

[fervent merlin]

so like this?

[somber sequoia]

Yes

[fervent merlin]

okay

[somber sequoia]

I suggested the two common methods

[wanton cedar]

Also for screens and such, how would one make something like a light project from it as you would have for an actual screen? I tried on my model. but its just a tiny white dot

[fervent merlin]

we should be good to roll right

[somber sequoia]

Looks good

[bright vapor]

had to figure it out myself, thanks

im assuming painting over it with white'll work

[fervent merlin]

true

[somber sequoia]

if you want white multiplied in - usually it's best to just remove those

[bright vapor]

hhhoow.

[fervent merlin]

unity time

[somber sequoia]

all you get on avatars is emission

[somber sequoia]

"Color attributes" in the properties box on a mesh object in Blender. I've no idea about VRC Quest Tools, I've never used it.

[bright vapor]

Ah theres a minus sign

Im blind

[fervent merlin]

ok looking good so far

ok

unity isnt accepting it for some reason

does there need to be its own hierarchy for unity too?

[somber sequoia]

?

what error is it giving you?

[fervent merlin]

just a X

[somber sequoia]

no idea what you mean?

[fervent merlin]

doesnt save my rig

[somber sequoia]

no idea what that is either, maybe don't clip so much?

[fervent merlin]

looks fine

only issue is "character is not in tpose" but i can enforce it

o wait

[somber sequoia]

you can't have a mesh object with the same name as a humanoid bone

rename the head mesh object

[fervent merlin]

oh

oops

ill reopen blender to fix rthat rq

accepted

lookin good so far

ok time to give it the good old avatar test

[somber sequoia]

many many polys

[fervent merlin]

im aware

roblox avatars are VERY high in polygons

i know theres a deform tool in blender i think

[somber sequoia]

ahhh, that's what you're doing

[fervent merlin]

and the entire avatar is broken

wt the hell even cuases this bro

ive never seen this happen in an avatar

[somber sequoia]

what, the dropping? looks like no floor collider in the world

[fervent merlin]

my avatar acts like its position is somewhere else

[somber sequoia]

... thanks discord for only letting me view the first 10 sec of that

[fervent merlin]

its invisible

and everytime i move my camera

the entire model moves aswell

around the 25 second mark u can see it

[somber sequoia]

I can't see your avatar at all

[fervent merlin]

i know i cant see it in game either

[somber sequoia]

is its origin at the origin and all transforms are applied?

[fervent merlin]

i put the model at 0,0,0

[somber sequoia]

right but is the model's origin at 0,0,0?

whoa scale - yeah go back into blender, make sure the object origins are right, apply all transforms

that scale really ought to be 1,1,1

[fervent merlin]

well wdym by the origins

the rig itself is at 0m

do you mean the actual meshes inside

[somber sequoia]

I mean all of the objects on your avatar. And yeah that scale should ideally be 1 also

[wanton cedar]

How do you freeze a hand in a pose to hold something instead of keeping the normal gestures? I posed the bones in the animation, but unity got upset with me

[fervent merlin]

so you want all the objects to be 0,0,0?

[somber sequoia]

Yes - set the 3d cursor to the origin, then select each object and set its origin to the 3D cursor, then select them all, ctrl+a, apply all transforms

Ideally this doesn't break anything 🙂

[fervent merlin]

u mean htis

its already at the origin of 0,0,0

[somber sequoia]

that is the 3D cursor

an object's origin is a teeny little orange dot, when you've selected the object.

[fervent merlin]

hm

ok

i done it i think

i selected all the objects

set origin to 3d cursor

and applied transforms

[somber sequoia]

so now your scaling for the objects are likely just 1

[fervent merlin]

yep

they sure are

[somber sequoia]

Also again, ideally, you should combine all the body mesh objects into one mesh objects for efficiency in VR

I do this when I export and don't save it, so I can keep them separate when working in Blender.

[fervent merlin]

is that possible?

i didnt know tat

[somber sequoia]

sure is

[fervent merlin]

is htere any tutorials on how to do that or smth

[somber sequoia]

each object + each material slot on that object is a separate draw call, which gets expensive

select all mesh objects, ctrl+j

note that if you have multiple materials, you might have to consider which order you join them in, the material slot order will be affected. It can be a little annoying

[fervent merlin]

holon

im just gonna speedrun abit of htis

[somber sequoia]

make backups!

[fervent merlin]

i mena importing

the avi

rq

ok this should work if im a lucky duck 2day

same thing happens

no difference

[fervent merlin]

uh

u sure about this

it just made every mesh into 1

[somber sequoia]

That's how I export my models, one mesh for body, one for clothing, maybe 1-2 more for props if needed

[fervent merlin]

clothing is a material

no 3d clothing is used

since its roblox

[somber sequoia]

ah cool

[fervent merlin]

btw

the head meshes's hats and stuff is all on the avatar

so its non removable

ok doing that just breaks the entire model's posing

so i dont think ill do that

i know there's some deform thing in unity or blender u can use ill just use that if needed

i uh, i dunno what to do now

[somber sequoia]

won't help you with the drawcalls but that's a later optimization task anyway

[fervent merlin]

i dont know what would cause this

imma be fr

we gon need an expert for this opne

does bone collections actually do anything

[somber sequoia]

they're very useful for organization, I use them a lot

[fervent merlin]

i come this far i aint willin to give up yet 🔥

[somber sequoia]

I put stuff like clothing bones in collections, so I can easily turn them on and off

[fervent merlin]

oh

do they affect anything

or what

mine got rlly random ones

[somber sequoia]

nope, just for organization purposes, at least as far as it goes with VRChat stuff

[fervent merlin]

okay

well now im stumped

i dunno what causes this

this is pretty damn hard for just a roblox avi imma be fr

[sour sphinx]

eye look is buggin out, idk how to fix this

[fervent merlin]

someone else had the same bug as me

but he didnt get an answer

sad

[somber sequoia]

it'd help to know what the eye bones look like, in Blender

also wow that thing has a lot of objects

[fervent merlin]

wait

wait

[fervent merlin]

is the model supposed to be in a t pose from the get go?

because mine isi n an a pose

the rig is in a t pose tho

does that matter?

[sour sphinx]

theyre not actually ON the eyes which i thought might be the issue..

but thats how the model came

and the bones moves with the eyes normally like how a regular model should

in blender

[somber sequoia]

really hard to tell but they look like they're facing forward? They should be facing vertical

[floral oar]

I need help with avi clipping but I have barely any clue in what im doing

[somber sequoia]

For VRChat, you want the eye bone's head at the exact center of rotation, with the bone perfectly vertical, and 0 bone roll.

[sour sphinx]

i had this pervious version of the avatar that had those bones called righteye(..) instead of eye_r(..), but i deleted those two since they werent connected to the eyes when i tried to move them. i thought that would solve my issue

[somber sequoia]

yeah with the _r extension Blender will know to mirror that with a similarly named _l bone

(if you enable X mirroring)

[fervent merlin]

wait

hold on

is the scale supposed to be, 100?

[sour sphinx]

here, yes?

[fervent merlin]

shouldnt the scale be 1?

or am i just trippin

[chilly solar]

can easy quest switch remove physbone components bc i only need to make a quest verson of my avi bc of them and having to update 2 projects all the time is mad annoying. i tried to do it before and it just didnt work, so im wondering if i did it wrong or if quest switch cant remove them

[somber sequoia]

no - when you export, in the export dialog set "apply scalings" to "FBX All"

[somber sequoia]

yep, that's X mirroring

[fervent merlin]

where do i find that

[sour sphinx]

ok, walk me through it. im supposed to delete "eye_r" and "eye_l", yes?

[fervent merlin]

ah

found it

[sour sphinx]

i dont understand quite how to mirror these bones onto the ones i want..

[somber sequoia]

er... why would you delete those?

[sour sphinx]

soo theyre connected to the eyes... noo..?

[somber sequoia]

I don't follow...

[sour sphinx]

im getting lost..

lol

hold on

[somber sequoia]

find the existing eye bones, rotate them 90 degrees on the X axis, position them so the head is at the exact center of eye rotation

[fervent merlin]

does rotation matter

its at -89 and i really wanna change it to -90

lol

[somber sequoia]

hah

I'm not sure if a) that matters or b) that you should change it

[fervent merlin]

okay ill leavei t

are avatars supposed to have their model in a t pose

the rig puts it in a tpose

but do i need to manually turn the arms to make a t pose on the model or

[somber sequoia]

is it not in T pose already?

[fervent merlin]

the model isnt

[somber sequoia]

is the armature T-posing, or does it match the avatar?

[fervent merlin]

you mean the rig thing?

[somber sequoia]

Yes, the armature, in Blender.

[fervent merlin]

no i dont think so

[sour sphinx]

i definetly know im doing this wrong.. please tell me how to perfectly rotate these at 90 deg

[somber sequoia]

that wasn't a yes or no question

[somber sequoia]

oh ok. Probably you want that to be T-posing

[fervent merlin]

do i gotta manually do it 😭

raah

[somber sequoia]

select a bone, r, x, 90.

r = rotate, x = constrain to only the x axis, 90 = 90 degrees. Might be -90, depends on your point of view.

[sour sphinx]

its upside down

ok ill do -90

lol

[somber sequoia]

you could try to re-pose it then apply the armature modifier, or there are some tools to reset the pose, can't say Ive used those though.

[fervent merlin]

oh my god...

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[sour sphinx]

the eye bones are crooked, this is not fine right

[fervent merlin]

CRAZY

BRUH

okay ill go

adventure

[sour sphinx]

how do i fix them this way

[somber sequoia]

you want them perfectly straight upright

You could set the X and Y coordinates of the bone tail to the same value as the bone head

(in the 'item' tab of the 'n' popup on the right)

but we're getting into basic blender tutorial stuff here

[fervent merlin]

does position matter

when making a t pose

does it need to be striaght exact?

[somber sequoia]

see the ideal humanoid armature diagram pinned in #avatar-rigging

[fervent merlin]

i acn use cats

i think

[somber sequoia]

ah yeah, I think that has a tool for this

[sour sphinx]

i finally got them standing up straight

[somber sequoia]

make sure the bone roll is 0 - also in the "item" tab

[sour sphinx]

roll: 244 deg, set it to 0?

[somber sequoia]

Yes, you want that to be 0 or it'll be weird

[fervent merlin]

the cats plugin is

really broken imma be fr

[somber sequoia]

make sure you have the right one for your blender version

[fervent merlin]

ok i made a t pose

although for some reason

these weird black lines appear

[somber sequoia]

those are relationship lines, it indicates the object's parent's location

[fervent merlin]

im guessing they ar enot important

[somber sequoia]

could be - not sure why anything's location would be there

[sour sphinx]

ty for helping! it works

[somber sequoia]

the eyes? Excellent 🙂

[fervent merlin]

Les GOO

YES

hgoly crap this took a dya and half jesus christ

okay so it was the t pose

[somber sequoia]

also excellent!

[fervent merlin]

i gotta keep that in mind

if i plan to make more avatars in the future

ima personally pin this incase i come across any other future errors

[echo vault]

how can i fix this?

[knotty nebula]

So I'm trying my first time to upload an avatar and I'm going through the creator companion and when I try to download manually it continues to show this

[bitter dune]

Does anyone know how to fix a weird issue I’m having where my voice audio is really really off from where I actually am in vrchat I’m having an issue where my voice is apparently coming from the far far left of my actual avatar

It seems to be “fixed” for some people by rejoining but it’s effecting a few people to where they can’t hear me so I have no idea if it’s a bigger issue

[austere dome]

@orchid nebula like this.

Now value is a slider.

Lets you hide it ingame.

[orchid nebula]

that prevents clipping on any clothes?

[austere dome]

Right, the reason you clip is because the weightpaint and face density might be too non-similar so one in rare situations poke out.

So you 'scale inward' the faces and enable the shapekey when you enable the outfit.

So the arm won't ever poke out since it's practically as thin as a straw.

[orchid nebula]

for example this?

[austere dome]

If you use VRCfury (you should!) there's a setting next to toggle object for outfit that'll let you set a 'blendshape' (shapekey)

[austere dome]

You should have a 'hidefluff' shapekey already I'd assume.

[junior void]

if its the rex, yes

[austere dome]

Which does the same thing, just ensure when the outfit is on, it is on.

[orchid nebula]

but if i do that some of my toggles will look weird because under the jacket there a shirt that exposes the arms

[austere dome]

You can make multiple blendshapes!

So the idea would be you have a blendshape to shrink the arms, the chest, the shoulders. You already have a blendshape to hide the fluff.

Blendshapes aren't automated to be used to be clear. You must do that part yourself.

Either in the 'animation' that controls the toggle, or VRCfury.

[junior void]

in some cases though, the hide shapes that already exist are a little too low on the arm to fit a certain shirt for example

in those cases you should add the shirt in blender to see where the arms end and make specific keys for that

[orchid nebula]

well ill see if i can do that xd i need to re install my file for that and re learn blender since i havent used it in a big minute

but this is very helpfull thanks

[austere dome]

https://youtu.be/lGRbOZV3NaU

Here's a video of someone doing it.

[slender tundra]

so um.....any easy way to fix this...?

[bitter nimbus]

Tried to make my avatar, but I was struggling on 2D animations with the faces of my avatar, I made the model in Blockbench by the way.

[somber sequoia]

always explain "this" - do you mean the colors? the bones? position of the bones? We have no idea what you're referring to unless you tell us.

[slender tundra]

I figured it out dw

[young kiln]

ok. i just made my first avatar, exported it, everything looked... normalish. and then when i play. the entire model is flipped backwards

what.

[balmy halo]

hey guys would anyone be willing to work with me to make my little sis her own avatar? unfortunately i have no means of payment so it would have to be for free. i know this a long shot asking for such a big favor and i know its unlikely to happen, i just really want my little sister to be able to have her own avatar, it would make her really happy. if anyone is willing to feel free to dm me. i perfectly understand if no one does.

[junior void]

Can you show us what you mean?

[young kiln]

i dont know why the hands are in the air either

all bones are named and marked correctly

[junior void]

could be bone roll on humanoid bones not being 0

[young kiln]

hmm

how could i change this

[torn crypt]

maybe the bone is rotated wrong or the rest pose wasn’t applied correctly

[young kiln]

a lot of the bones arent 0

ill switch all to zero

see if that helps maybe

[torn crypt]

That

[junior void]

only humanoid bones need to be 0 roll. the tail wont affect that

[torn crypt]

That would fix it zeroo the bones in the rest pose, then export again.

[young kiln]

a ton of them were seemingly random rolls

[young kiln]

ok so that made it significantly worse

still the same weird pose

[junior void]

what does the rig configuration in unity look like

[torn crypt]

Looks like a guider in te violin team lol

[young kiln]

rolling it just made the joints look like sausages

[junior void]

put the config to generic, apply, and then back to humanoid

it doesnt like being changed when it was configured before

[young kiln]

oh shii that mightve worked

lemme look ingame

[junior void]

you dont need to

you can use play mode if you install gesture manager package in unity

[young kiln]

tysm

didnt know roll was a thing idk how it even happened

[torn crypt]

It happens sometimes it's fine

[livid idol]

-# crying a little
Still need some help!
If anyone has any ideas, PLEASE

[untold minnow]

No matter what I do to an avatar I cant ever upload it because of the thumbnail, no matter what I change it to it always gives me an error. Ive even jist made it a complete solid color and even that didn't work

Anyone know how to help?

[junior void]

try yeeting the id and upload as new avatar

[untold minnow]

It has no id

Its my avatar

[left gull]

try going back an SDK version if possible? i know one of the more current versions have a bug with thumbnail stuff

[plain mural]

Why do the fingers rotate too much when the avatar makes a fist? (And the others gestures too)
The bone normals are fine except for the thumb, but that's the least of my concerns

Normals compared to the working model

The bones have the same names, so I even tried transferring from the working model to the broken one - the same broken result in Unity

[junior void]

If you do not have a custom gesture layer, the automatic vrchat animations will play. Those are defined by muscle settings in the unity rig tab

You can set min and max curl and twist there

[somber sequoia]

blender seems to pick random values for bone roll - I'm sure it's based on some clever criteria, but it always seems wrong to me

[plain mural]

Is this what you were talking about?

I compared it to a working model and values are the same, hmm

These settings don't change anything in the avatar, only in the rig settings

[junior void]

Yes but again, these are not used if you have a gesture layer and animate your hands manually

Gfu

[crystal ruin]

need help with this eye texture in blender it looks fine but in unity it just doesnt wanna work

its suppose to look like this

[ornate stump]

Your emission map texture looks black so it won't show any color.

[crystal ruin]

thats the height map

[ornate stump]

You put in the emission slot is the height map?

[crystal ruin]

must have accidently threw it in the emission slot

[ornate stump]

Update and show the result again.

[ornate stump]

You had excessively high normal map power. And height map height power.

[ornate stump]

Why there is something in secondary maps now?

[crystal ruin]

there isnt anymore

[ornate stump]

You also haven't lower the normal map power. Fix and screenshot again.

[ornate stump]

How did you configure shader in blender?

[crystal ruin]

i didnt

it was just like that when i got the model

sending

[ornate stump]

Let me rephrase, what shader configuration you had in blender.

[crystal ruin]

i got it off of patreon

the blend file i mean

[ornate stump]

If you got from patreon it it must not be shared.

[crystal ruin]

what?

its not his model it came from marvel rivals

you shouldnt be putting up a paywall for someone elses work

[ornate stump]

Then the "patreon" part is irrelevant?

[crystal ruin]

yeah thats where i got the blend file from was that dudes patreon

[ornate stump]

I won't going to take time to download and investigate the file so you should look into it and post the shader configuration.

[crystal ruin]

i dont know how to use the new blender

so im sol i guess

[ornate stump]

You know how to use the older version? The different only are some UI.

[crystal ruin]

i know very little blender knowledge

[proper depot]

Can the dissolve effect be easily added to an integer toggle? or do I have to do a whole thing for it to work for the whole set of toggles in that tree? I have different outfits, i cant just record the dissolve in the animation right?

[crystal ruin]

most of it i forgot because its been years

[ornate stump]

Since you was able to provide screenshot from blender then you should be able to look into the shader.

[crystal ruin]

all i did was open blender and hit open blend nothing else

[ornate stump]

Then looking in shader is only clicking on the "Shading" tab above.

[crystal ruin]

this is all it shows me for the eyes and i still dont get it

[ornate stump]

Of course the point is to let a person helping you to see how it's configured.

It rather seems to be a uncommon way to setup.

[crystal ruin]

so how would this translate to poyomi?

[ornate stump]

Weren't you using Standard shader?

[crystal ruin]

yeah before i throw it into poyomi

[ornate stump]

The texture "Black" is base color. And EyeShadow probably is alpha map. And set render preset to transparent.

[crystal ruin]

these?

or this one

bottom one id assume is the eye texture

[ornate stump]

From texture it doesn't look like it's the correct material you showed in blender.

Possibly Eyes are separated to 2 objects, one is the base, another is the specular layer.

Which likely mean you was working on the spucular layer which is why the texture layout doesn't match.

[crystal ruin]

oh

so how would i go about fixing that?

[ornate stump]

Just make the specular layer transparent and you would see the base color layer.

[crystal ruin]

on blender or in unity?

[ornate stump]

Unity.

[crystal ruin]

i see specular highlights

[ornate stump]

Change albedo color and lower the alpha.

[crystal ruin]

that just made the eyes invis

[dapper stratus]

I'm willing to wait my turn for this, but I got a kind of niche request: I'm making an avatar of my stylization/"OC" (ish) of SCP-173, and I added GoGo Freeze to it. I'm aware of some avatars having a mute = invisibility feature; I'm wanting to try something like that but have it activate the full-body freeze on that prefab. Is there any way I can do so? (that hopefully doesn't require programming knowledge, I'm nowhere near ready for that stuff yet lol)

This also needs to be Quest friendly, as I'm on Quest 2 and, while I'm uploading a PC build for this too just so people on that platform can see it, I need to make the avatars I create Android for my own sake.

[ornate stump]

Screenshot?

[ornate stump]

The black part on the eye still didn't change which mean it's a different material.

[ornate stump]

So the black part maybe is the specular layer and a the eye you're editing is the base color. You should have the color texture into Albedo slot.

[simple inlet]

does anyone know whats happening here? in the fbx configurator and play mode the head rotates and moves position causing this monstrosity...

[crystal ruin]

looks like weighpainting

does the head stay in place when the body moves

[simple inlet]

all works fine in Blender, it's the actual head bone thats moving it seems

like an issue with the rig

or maybe the neck

[dapper stratus]

It could be the head bone isn't properly parented to the neck. Did you make sure to extrude it from the neck, or did you duplicate a bone for the head?

[simple inlet]

Here's the bone relations for the neck and head bones

The only edit I made to this avatar was swapping the head mesh for an edited version of the same head mesh. No edits were made to the armature, and the issue does not occur on the unedited version.

My process was simply deleting the previous head mesh, parenting the new mesh to the armature, then setting the new mesh's armature component to the avatar's original armature.

[dapper stratus]

Huh. Yeah, that IS weird. I don't think I'm knowledgable enough to even touch that issue, lol

Unrelated note: I thought there had to be an UpperChest bone? Four bones in total in the torso (ignoring shoulders, which Unity lies about being optional lol).

[simple inlet]

From what I know the upper chest bone is unnecessary. Its mostly used for people who have chest trackers

But yeah thank you for the help anyway, I'm super confused xD

I work on avis a lot and I've never had this issue T_T)

I've tried all the usual fixes like applying transforms etc

[dapper stratus]

Mh. Eh, still, especially because Unity tends to lie to me about some optional bones, I'll still do four because I'd rather not risk it lol

[simple inlet]

Yeah fair x)

[dapper stratus]

... Actually, did you double check that everything on the edited head mesh is weightpainted to the correct bone? I've accidentally caught myself plenty of times forgetting to change what bone I'm painting a part to; I'm only lucky I catch myself so early.

It could be that a part of the mesh is connected to god-knows-where, lol

[crystal ruin]

got lazy and just made the eyes planes now it kinda works

[simple inlet]

yeah I used pose mode to check and everything moves correctly

[simple inlet]

unless you suggest a different method to check?

[late heart]

these keeps showing up when I try to open a new project on vrc creator companion and it’s lowk pissing me off

and like I reinstalled it but it keeps showing that

[dapper stratus]

What the hell...? What is that file it's trying to look for? The name looks like somebody slammed their keyboard.

[late heart]

I don’t even know 😭😭

[simple inlet]

Okay I just deleted and reimported the fbx and everything is fixed. Thank you Unity

[tribal haven]

Is there a way to remove an option from the radial menu? Like MMD

[dapper stratus]

Ooh, also, an extra question I need to ask: I also wanted to try making the wheels and base rotate in the direction I'm moving to rather than facing forward the whole time (might as well show what I mean, though this is an old screenshot from when I was still modeling him in Blockbench). It's an effect I have seen on some animated Pokémon avatars like Eevee or Mimikyu, so I KNOW it can be done Quest-friendly.

[dapper stratus]

I'm gonna hazard a guess that you aren't using VRCFury for toggles or something. That plugin just lets you add (and remove) toggles as components.

[somber sequoia]

record an animation where in frame 1 it's not-dissolved and frame whatever, say 120, it's dissolved. Mak esure looping is disabled, then just make your toggle play that.

[ebon dirge]

What does this mean?

[proper depot]

This will work for a integer toggle?? :0000

thank you also!!

I think nearly everytime im asking a question in here i feel like you always reply with a solid answer i hella appreciate you :D

[somber sequoia]

doesn't matter what data type you use in your transitions, they all work

[somber sequoia]

Hehe thanks

[vagrant crater]

i just want some recommendations im trying to think of a way to give the face its self some details with out addding wrinkles and making him looked aged i can do that haha but keeping him look young with details not sure

[wanton cedar]

is there a way i can make the bones children of the empties without unpacking my prefab?

I looked in vrcfury armlink, but it didnt list the bones i needed

[late heart]

I have a question, I’m trying to make a new project in creator companion but it’s not working at all

Like I pressed open project it says opening then it goes back to open project

[wanton cedar]

how long ago did you press open project

[late heart]

js now

[wanton cedar]

it might be opening it in the background

sometimes takes a bit

[late heart]

yea I just pressed it again and it opened my files to its folder

[wanton cedar]

maybe try opening it with unity hub

[somber sequoia]

Nope, can't do that.

[livid idol]

Gang i dunno how to explain to Google how broken this is
HELP

[vapid slate]

ok, first time uploading to quest... how do i fix this

[somber sequoia]

what did you click, was it "build and test"?

[vapid slate]

no

i clicked "build"

[lyric sonnet]

Does anyone know how to change the head on this Avi?

https://booth.pm/en/items/5260363

[somber sequoia]

same as on any avatar, put it in blender, cut off the head, add the new one

[foggy portal]

Apologies if this is the wrong channel, but wtf is a "mimeType" and where do I find the settings for it?

[balmy barn]

what image type are you trying to use it wants either of those

[foggy portal]

If you mean the thumbnail for the avatar I was using a png

[somber sequoia]

mime type is basically "file type"

[foggy portal]

So it thinks I'm working on a "octet-stream" file... whatever that is

Now it's mad at me not having a thumbnail image.... while the image is sitting right there

[somber sequoia]

that mostly means "generic binary file" (as opposed to a text file)

[foggy portal]

And now it worked?????

[somber sequoia]

which SDK version are you on? this is buggy in some

but if it worked, hooray 🙂