avatar-help

[half stirrup]

ngl.. i do that. sometimes it makes me go the long way though LMAO

[west heath]

I have an animation that changes Head and Foot tracking to be animated, but some default animations change it so it goes back to tracking. Mostly, I'm doing this to prevent the Auto-Footsteps happening during the animation, but if there is another way to turn that off while the animation is playing, that would also work to.

[azure snow]

In the newest version of the SDK, I'm having a few issues with the SDK not taking in thumbnails for multi-platform uploads, or sometijmes the thumbnail just not saving at all, is this a known issue?

[somber sequoia]

It's been reported in here a few times, but I haven't seen anyone mention a fix or if there's a report on Canny

[azure snow]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/avatar-30/p/avatar-sdk-390-thumbnail-not-attached-upload-failure Just found it :)

Is being tracked intrernally

[somber sequoia]

oh good

[stray lintel]

why is my toggle not working

one sec

taking a screenshot

it's not toggling off

it will toggle on in play mode, but not off

[little plume]

oh boy

big

long

error log

[half stirrup]

@crude pumice ok now that im in gesture manager, the fishnets aren't connected to the body lol, i dropped it onto my avatar, and it just wont connect

[little plume]

heres only the errors actually

[crude pumice]

[half stirrup]

disregard me i have fixed it LOL

was attached to the wrong armature for some reason

[stray lintel]

anyone able to help?

[somber sequoia]

are they rigged? Just dropping them on doesn't actually attach them to the armature

oh I should have scrolled, you got it working

[half stirrup]

LOL yeah silly fix

[azure snow]

In relation to this, despite thumbnail being uploaded through website, though, no supported platforms as it failed on upload

[lilac narwhal]

Hey complete shot in the dark but does anyone have any experience with fuse\

[fossil fulcrum]

Hi guys. I am needing help with an avatar I'm making. The only problem I'm having is that Blender keeps messing up its eyes I think. When I reimport the model into unity, the eyes look all jagged

[vernal sandal]

Does anybody knows how to use the ao to make the blush work?

[somber sequoia]

jagged sounds more like an issue with the texture, probably the UV map

[fossil fulcrum]

How do I fix it?

[somber sequoia]

you haven't shown us anything so no idea if this is actually the issue. I'm just suggesting something to check.

[crude pumice]

Blush uses transparency

[vernal sandal]

I have no idea what im doing, so do you know how does it works?

If i put it in trsnparent it looks like this

[fossil fulcrum]

I have another model that looks just fine, I just need to remove the hat and hair from it

[somber sequoia]

what are we looking at here?

is there a blendshape active or something?

[fossil fulcrum]

I’m not sure. I do know that whenever I put the model into blender, it makes the eyes jagged. I can especially see it when I texture it in unity

[somber sequoia]

what does the texture look like? UV map?

[fossil fulcrum]

The texture itself is a png image

[somber sequoia]

you'd need to indicate where the eye islands are on that for it to be of any use

[fossil fulcrum]

How come this one is normal?

[somber sequoia]

what's the difference between the two?

[fossil fulcrum]

The one on the left is jagged

[somber sequoia]

not what I meant

[fossil fulcrum]

Oh

[somber sequoia]

I didn't mean how do they look different, I meant what's the actual difference

[fossil fulcrum]

One model is imported from blender, the other is from the raw file I downloaded

[somber sequoia]

"raw file"?

[fossil fulcrum]

That’s the one that wasn’t put into blender

The other is

[somber sequoia]

ok so what did you do to it in blender?

[fossil fulcrum]

Nothing

I just imported it from the file and exported it to unity

Just to see if it would do that

[crude pumice]

Transparency applies to alpha.

If you dont have a seperate material for alpha make a mask.

The mask.
Black for things you dont want and white for things you want

[vernal sandal]

Yeah i have a face material, and an eye material. But i do have a alfa texture

[crude pumice]

So only face i see.
Then face material is transparency and make a mask for the alpha texture.

[vernal sandal]

wear do i put it?

[crude pumice]

I am unfamiliar with poiyomi

Should be alpha in Alpha mask

Maybe in alpha options

[vernal sandal]

Yeah im lost but thanks regardless

[somber sequoia]

looks like you put something in that slot earlier

[vernal sandal]

I put the Ao file of the head.

[somber sequoia]

what does AO have to do with this?

[vernal sandal]

the blush thing

[somber sequoia]

that doesn't answer my question in any way

[vernal sandal]

I not an expert but what i have read is that one has to do something with the ao of the face texture for the blush to work. But im completely lost.

[somber sequoia]

I have never heard that one before

if you could explain what that "something" is maybe that would help

[vernal sandal]

the head only has an eye material slot and a dace material slot

[somber sequoia]

and?

[vernal sandal]

Im trying to fix the blush

[somber sequoia]

how does the blush work?

is it a decal?

[vernal sandal]

As you can see is part of the face texture

[somber sequoia]

see what? which part of this is supposed to be the blush?

[vernal sandal]

the pink part

[somber sequoia]

and how is that applied then?

overlay mesh perhaps? Like if there's a blendshape to activate it?

[vernal sandal]

When you move the blend shape the blush apiers

[somber sequoia]

ok yeah, overlayed mesh then

if it's solid pink like that it could be there's another map to figure out where the alpha goes

or perhaps it's already in that image, it's just the alpha color

find that image file in Unity, look in the inspector, see if "alpha is transparency" is not checked. Check it, apply, see if that works.

[vernal sandal]

I have also this texture

[somber sequoia]

without knowing what that's for, it probably isn't helpful

[vernal sandal]

I applied the apha transparency

[wicked forge]

Does anyone have any decent guide on how to yoink model from Source game (Seven coop to be specific)? Been trying to port one model to VRC and im getting stuck on Blender stage, model seems to be missing texture or has it and i have no idea how to select it.

[wheat flame]

does anyone know what to do when Unity says "Avatar Validation failed"?

[somber sequoia]

look at the error messages above that, or the build console for more clues

[crystal flare]

https://discordapp.com/channels/189511567539306508/1433202589704523940/1434784700135899249

incase you're still struggling with this

[wanton cedar]

Any idea how to fix this? I copied the fx layer over and the parameters, also dragged the prefab onto my model, yet vrcfury is getting fussy with me. It was fine with the pc version but wants to throw a fit now that its quest

[steady moat]

Thank you! I did end up figuring it out at some point.

[somber sequoia]

it tells you what's wrong and how to fix it

maybe the location of the object it's on is relevant, or something else about it, maybe show it without clipping.

or make sure what's under "Flash Beacon Prop" is what you expect it to be

[unkempt pelican]

sorry if dumb question but does anyone know how to sort bones in blender? i had to do some changes and not there in the wrong order. i need spine to be first

[ornate stump]

It's order by name.

[unkempt pelican]

correct, but i have 0 clue on how to change this

[ornate stump]

You usually shouldn't need to manually order, other than the lower leg and arm bones. Why would you need to?

[unkempt pelican]

1: OCD
2: its cleaner and prevents popups in unity

it was correct before but i would like to have it back in order

i had a look online and foundsimaler postings but none of them were answered properly and the rest were unrelated.

[ornate stump]

It's going to be worse because you have to name it starts with some letter like A in front.

[unkempt pelican]

there has to be another way

my bone order did not need that before when it was in the correct order

[ornate stump]

https://blender.stackexchange.com/questions/261688/how-can-bone-hierarchy-change-order-ways-to-preserve-it Try this? Maybe with older blender version.

[somber sequoia]

I haven't figured this one out either. They get alphabetized in Unity though.

[unkempt pelican]

mine doesent

[somber sequoia]

oh that's very weird

[unkempt pelican]

idk

[somber sequoia]

wait, isn't there a checkbox in the import settings?

[unkempt pelican]

it just bothers me that it WAS in correct order and now i cannot get it back

[somber sequoia]

I think I saw that the other day

[unkempt pelican]

yes, i tried this all it does is put them back in the same order.

[ornate stump]

Preserve bone order checkbox.

[somber sequoia]

oh that's what it is, hmmph

[unkempt pelican]

this is what im trying to get

[ornate stump]

That still looks like older blender.

[unkempt pelican]

yes sir

2.79

im a fossil

[somber sequoia]

whatever for?

[unkempt pelican]

it works for everything that i do, there are not moved items or places. the ui is as i know it. and despite issues others have i dont crash in it.

[crude pumice]

Dude i used 2.79 up until 2024

[unkempt pelican]

anyhow i need to figure this issue out for now

[somber sequoia]

so many new features...

[crude pumice]

Im on 4.3 now.
Got alot of cool blender plugin.

[somber sequoia]

I'm using 4.5.4 right now

[unkempt pelican]

i dont need them. there was only one feature i saw that i needed and i found an addon for it.

[crude pumice]

I would but most my addons will break

[somber sequoia]

huh.

[crude pumice]

Besides i heard blender 5 is coming.

[somber sequoia]

new ones are always coming

[potent basin]

always prefer older versions for the stability

[unkempt pelican]

all well, guess ill just deal with it for now

[ocean berry]

how do you add toggles like for objects/meshes with gogo loco? also sending me an image of the gogo loco set up will help

using the beyong prefab btw

[night ember]

You just add a toggle to the fx layer like how youd do it without goloco added?

[ocean berry]

wheres that exactly, i'm quite new to this

like here?

[night ember]

Why is it empty if you added go loco

[ocean berry]

like I said i'm quite new, now help me instead of asking things

[night ember]

[ornate stump]

You'd have to read gogoloco installation instruction. If you just use drop in prefab, then make sure that you also read instruction from the same folder of the prefab if it has one.

[frigid glade]

What’s the difference between adding toggles with gogoloco and just doing it normally?? I’m confuzzled

I just do my toggles in a separate fx layer

[dull sable]

Here is the more fx layer for what I'm trying to do with my png avi. I'm continuing this message: #avatar-help message

[ornate stump]

You rather seems to be confused with how to condition the transitions. Is there a reason why you use 2 parameters instead of just one?

[stray lintel]

https://youtu.be/jubFzLiQm2Y

is anyone able to help me?

i want to make this effect.

This is what i have so far

[rustic linden]

is there a way to get winking to work on an avatar without having to get full on face tracking? i only have eye tracking and dont wanna use all the parameters full on face tracking uses

like i just want eye tracking no face

bc whenever i wink my avatars just squint

[torn crypt]

I think you can by setting up eye tracking only and use eye blink parameters separately for each eye (like EyeBlinkLeft and EyeBlinkRight).

Make sure the software isn’t merging them into a single “blink” value disable “combined blink” or “auto symmetry” if it’s on.

[queen trail]

i just imported the meshed after finishing the model and the shading is all messed up how do i fix this

[ocean berry]

how can I fix this?

[rich tinsel]

yo guys I am having a "VRCExpressionParameters has too many parameters defined." I tought VRC furry was compressing them, any way to fix this? this character has 293/256 bytes, if I upload into pc it accepts, I assume the Fury compresses it but If I try to upload for quest it does not let me

[rich tinsel]

you need to install the android module

[ocean berry]

where can I do that, like where do I download it

[rich tinsel]

in you unity hub, go to install lists and manage the the editor and add android build sdk

install it in the editor that you are using, probably the 2022. something, check your unity editor window it says that in its name

[somber sequoia]

are these the embedded materials or something? You probably need to actually setup materials in Unity. Also we have no idea what "messed up" means without having seen what "correct" is, so it's hard to give advice on what to change

[queen trail]

its the normals shading is messed up and i check and its not embedded mats

[somber sequoia]

are you using a normal map? Is the texture setup as a normal map in Unity?

[ocean berry]

thanks

[queen trail]

its a fresh import no textures

i wish it was a normal map issue

[ocean berry]

where can I get the android build sdk?

[somber sequoia]

not sure what you mean by normals shading then?

[somber sequoia]

They just told you where to get it

[ocean berry]

only thing I see that is too install is install editor not install the android sdk

[somber sequoia]

are you looking at exactly the same thing in Diogo-Dude's image? Click "manage" for the editor version you want to manage.

[ocean berry]

oh I see

the ui isn't very smart

[somber sequoia]

it's an add-on package for the editor you have installed, I think "manage" is a good place for that

... not disagreeing though, it's not a great UI 🙂

[rich tinsel]

go to your instsall list, find your editor, press manage and install the android build suport

[ocean berry]

uhhhh, do I just plug in my headset to my pc?

[somber sequoia]

To do an actual build & test you do need a connected Android device of some sort. Probably you don't want to actually do this though, instead just go into play mode to test in Unity, or use "build and publish" to upload to VRChat.

[ocean berry]

okay I did test this but it was for windows so pc only, I want my avi to be able to be one vr/both, unless you are saying publishing it will automatically do this

[somber sequoia]

If you publish in the right way yes, it can be both at once.

there are instructions on the vrchat docs site about doing this

[noble beacon]

Getting SDK errors while trying to upload an avatar, using version 3.9.0 which seems like its the latest stable build?
Any ideas on how to fix?

[somber sequoia]

unless that is literally the only error, post the first 2-3 error summaries, this one is pretty useless on its own

[noble beacon]

one and only error

[somber sequoia]

that's unfortunate. Any errors in the build console?

[noble beacon]

nop just this one single SDK error

[somber sequoia]

frustrating!

[noble beacon]

some of the lines mention API, is something wrong on vrchats end?

[ocean berry]

hey any tips for downsizing the file size, i'll start with the textures ig

[somber sequoia]

could be, or just the networking between you and them

[somber sequoia]

don't forget that shape keys take up lots of space, remove any you don't use

[ocean berry]

only have one extra the rest are for the mouth movments

[noble beacon]

funnily enough, i see the avatar in VRChats website in my avatars list but not ingame

[ocean berry]

btw is there a way for me to downsize the textures withen unity?

oh there is

hopefully it's enough since most of the files were I think 2k which tbh is unneeded anyway

now i'm wounding how avi's with infinite polygons get uploaded

[left gull]

usually modded SDKs that break TOS, they've been getting taken down as quickly as they get put up lately though which is nice

[ocean berry]

any more tips for lowing the file size I can't just keep decreasing the size of the textures

my avatar like got deleted, theres nothing

[balmy barn]

vertices/blend shapes/animations

[left gull]

using thry's avatar performance tool could also just tell you what's taking up the most space

[ocean berry]

the mesh ik, but the thing is I didn't make this model, I am using it as practice

[solemn anvil]

who can help me

[radiant night]

How do audio sources work? For this example I want to play 3 randomized audios from a specific folder when the source is activated, would that be possible? If so how can I do it with as few sources as possible?

[timber wharf]

@radiant night for like a year you can play any amount of clips via single source https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors/#animator-play-audio

[balmy barn]

0 is reset/stop

[radiant night]

Thank you!

[hasty plover]

Does anyone have a video on making an avatar in blender I search on YouTube and everyone says it’s outdated….

[left gull]

unless you're watching videos that're CATS reliant most will still work they just might use different keybinds

[hasty plover]

Oh okay I see thank you

[solemn anvil]

need help with puting a avatar i bought into vr

[grand scaffold]

You gotta give some more specifics than that

[solemn anvil]

ive never used unity before i dek how to explain it honestly it just keeps giving me errors on the bottom in red and when i look them up its saying clear my temp folders but still not working

[grand scaffold]

Did the avi come with instructions?

[solemn anvil]

yea

can i pm u?>

?

[grand scaffold]

We'll keep it here as I don't know loads about avis stuff specifically and more just unity in general

stick a screenshot of the instructions here

[solemn anvil]

this what it says

[grand scaffold]

What step did you get to before the errors started?

[solemn anvil]

im doing all that tho

it wont let me even ad the poi_toon pkg

[grand scaffold]

Send a screenshot of your full editor window, top bar included so I can double check the unity version

[solemn anvil]

bet hol up i gothcu

do i download this?

[grand scaffold]

just send the unity screenshot for now

[median stream]

How to make a toggle for the Matcap?? with vrcfury

[solemn anvil]

i fixed it

[solemn anvil]

what do u do for open scene ir insert prefabs

or

[left gull]

you should probably watch a basic how-to tut on youtube

[mortal dawn]

does anyone have tips on stopping hair/bangs from clipping through the face while in motion?

[night ember]

angle limit or collider

[mortal dawn]

ive done collider b4 maybe ill try angle limit this time

[mortal dawn]

where would i find angle limit?

[night ember]

its literally labeled limits

[wintry ledge]

does anyone know how to make an ear twitch animation? or know assets that already apply it? i work with booth models

[night ember]

just animate the bone and have the physbone set to is animated

[wintry ledge]

how do i animate the bone-

[night ember]

you just animate it?

start recording the animation and move it?

[potent basin]

there are a few tutorials on youtube, I can link the one I looked at

[potent basin]

https://youtu.be/78IrmMtByAU?si=IEFpXcWtaTXHP8bx&t=17

I just started learning Unity and making VRC avatars 3 days ago, so learning the basics are the main obstacle

[wintry ledge]

i never done any animations so i didnt know

[night ember]

you just record changes in the animation tab

[wintry ledge]

ohh thank you sm ^^

[potent basin]

🫡

getting used to the Unity interface took me a bit of time, getting the hang of it the longer you mess around with stuff

[wintry ledge]

yeahh,i know most things by now its just i never touched animations 💀

[potent basin]

should be fine after a bit of time playing around with it 🫡

[dull sable]

Bc im using actually 3 categories. One is normal pictures and the other is memes and the 3rd is for misc

[ornate stump]

They can share same parameter because they all are mutual exclusive,right?

[night ember]

there is no reason to be using multiple parameters

you are not going to have 255 toggles

thats literally 36 submenus alone

[pine valley]

If I have multiple categories, I'll put them at different offsets

e.g. 0 and 50

that generally works fine (unless you run out of space)

[night ember]

because 3 "categories" 1, 85, and 170

that gives you 85 toggles for each of them

[pine valley]

yeah

If you do want to have multiple parameters, you'll need a way to reset the other categories to zero when you select an item in another category

You can pull this off with parameter drivers, but it's going to be a bit awkward

speaking as someone who has done exactly this before: just use one parameter 😉

I have an avatar with around 100 messages it can play, and I'm struggling to think how I'd get past 256 of them

(i wrote scripts to generate everything; manually assembling that would be obnoxious)

[mortal dawn]

so for colliders for the hair. i have a collider on the head but does there also need to be one for the hair?

[night ember]

No?

[pine valley]

Physbones will interact with physbone colliders

you have to explicitly tell each Physbone component which colliders it should look for

[rare jacinth]

Im doing this in blender

Anyone know a good method for putting jewlery in hair? Like weight paint wise so when the hair moves it wont freak out?

(I did the hair in blender just didnt know if the jewlery should be weighted with the hair bones)

Or a tutorial on how to do this would be much appreciated 🙏

[oak bone]

transfer the weights from the hair to the jewelry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEAvSDrS_n0

[high axle]

why do my avatars eyes glow in the dark? i'm using poiyomi's toon shaders

[dull sable]

Idk. All i know is that they need to be 3 different categories under one plane

[dull sable]

Thats about right. Not 36 exactly but there will be multiple pages under one submenu

[high axle]

wait i think i fixed my issue
there was an emission enabled by default in the shader
i turned that off and now it should work

[rare jacinth]

I can use the data transfer for that right?

[little plume]

I had an issue before with an avatar where I had a toggle for an animation, but it would play based off framerate, so it would desync the animation from the music I was trying to play with it. is there a setting that changes it to be based off clock time instead of framerate?

[ornate stump]

You could just share same parameter for all. It's easier to create condition for just one parameter.

[night ember]

Animations already arent based in fps

[potent basin]

that looks kinda nice though maybe you should keep a tiny bit of it

[little plume]

well they did slow down based on framerate so I don't know what the issue is

depending on how laggy the world is, the more slow the animation was

i was trying to play it in sync with music and the animation was super delayed and slowed down for everyone except me

[cyan swan]

i uploaded a model from skewtchfab
its too far tio the right and like 30 meters tall, how to fix? censored nsfw parts

[somber sequoia]

make sure it's at the origin in blender, scale it to the size you want it to be, and apply all transforms. Then export to Unity.

[heavy zephyr]

Some factors like IK are dependent on framerate iirc. If you need to be sure your animation plays at the same speed for everyone, you're going to need some complex logic involving AAPs, blendtrees and so on

[cyan swan]

ok how to apply all transforms

[high axle]

i'll probably make it a toggle later

[potent basin]

yeah that sounds cool 😈

[somber sequoia]

object mode, select objects, ctrl+a, all transforms

[oak bone]

im not sure what you mean by that

transferring weightpainting from one mesh to the other

[night ember]

Thats not how animations work

[rare jacinth]

I was talking about the data transfer modifier in blender. I was asking if I should use that.

Im not sure how to transfer weights 🤔

I know how to with clothing but not small peices like that

[somber sequoia]

I wouldn't transfer really, I'd just sample the weight at the point where the jewelry attaches to the other mesh and then use "set weight" to set the jewelry part to have that weight. Jewelry is often made up of rigid parts, which should have uniform weight.
I've made simple hoop earrings like this before

[gritty forge]

so i figured out what broke me here. apparently the old 64x64 pixel black box i'd been using for all my other profile pictures just suddenly didnt work with the sdk anymore, so i made another black box image to use and now everything uploads just fine.

[rare jacinth]

Would you happen to have pictures on how to do this please? Sorry im new to blender so I dont know where all the buttons are 🙏

[somber sequoia]

I don't have pictures of this because I don't have your model to take pictures of

[rare jacinth]

I'll see if I can figure it out.

But I assume you can use this method for earrings and glasses right?

Sorry for asking so many questions 😅

[somber sequoia]

One of the tools on the left in the "t" popup is for sampling weights.
"set weight" is in the "weights" menu, it's useful when you tab over to edit mode and select vertices, then tab back to weight paint and use the masking mode (1 is the hotkey), then you can set weight and it'll apply to everything you selected before.

You can use these methods for anything you want

I just found it to be an easy way to make a rigid object move along with a specific point on a flexible object

[rare jacinth]

So I would find set weights in the weight paint section? Or would it just be under modifiers?

I do apologize im visual so im trying to think of where it is

[somber sequoia]

in the menu while weight painting, no modfiers are necessary here

(which is why I said "in the weights menu")

[rare jacinth]

Ohh im sorry I should have read that more clearly thank you for the tips I do appreciate it 🙏

[somber sequoia]

no worries!

[dull sable]

Its for a customer. They need it as 3 different categories but I’m almost to the point where i might have to do all of the 100+ photos under one sub with multiple pages

[ornate stump]

It doesn't matter because the user won't know the different between using one parameter or three parameter.

[lone hedge]

Does anybody know how you would make a toggle for an avatar to go invisible with an animation that slowly goes transparent, then invisible?

[somber sequoia]

I use poiyomi shaders and the dissolve feature for such things.

[little plume]

cam somebody help me understand this?

im so confused on what they want me to do. I already have an expression menu

[somber sequoia]

This tells you how to add a sub-menu to that main menu

You should do the second step

[lone hedge]

okay so problem with that i’m unsure how to use poyomi like that. i have a model that looks fairly realistic and i don’t know how to use poyomi outside of a “toon shader”

[somber sequoia]

There is documentation: https://www.poiyomi.com/special-fx/dissolve

I animate the "Dissolve Alpha" parameter, with the "Dissolved Color" set to black with alpha = 0, so it's entirely transparent. The rest of that is just neat effects while dissolving. Play with it, figure out what you like.

I usually put a noise texture in the "edge color" and screw around until it looks neat.

Ideally copy the dissolve section to all of your materials so they all animate at the same time. Otherwise you end up dissolving but discover your shirt is still present - very "Invisible man" 🙂

[hybrid forge]

anybody else having an issue when you go to the vrc sdk it messes with some stuff on your avatar? like toggling some stuff off or messing with the materials?

[somber sequoia]

Yes, 3.8.x seems to do that, it's very annoying. Go back to 3.7 or maybe try the 3.9 beta

it usually happens when you go to the VRC Console window

why this didn't get fixed as a patch to 3.8, I have no idea.

[hybrid forge]

yes yes, i was using 3.9 and went to 3.8 and it still had that issue, ill try 3.7 thank you

[somber sequoia]

the 3.9 beta seems to have fixed it for me

[hybrid forge]

hmm it did it for me using 3.9

weird

[somber sequoia]

oh interesting

[hybrid forge]

ima try 3.7 in a bit

hopefully that fixes it cuz its annoying lol

[somber sequoia]

it really is

[night ember]

If you get the dumb avatar thumbnail error thats because it failed to upload in the first place so you need to remove the id in the pipeline manager

[lone hedge]

the main issue with poyomi is that i dont know how to do shaders like this with it (mainly that last one)

this is the model i had recreated

just dont know how to make it look like this because i am only experienced with unitys base shaders and am used to them, but poyomi is more versatile and i wish to learn

[somber sequoia]

It's pretty decent overall.

[lone hedge]

heres the recreation i did of that model, just trying to recreate the last image shader but im unsure how to

[lethal temple]

If anyone knows substance painter very well. Im brand new, trying to bake my avi, and wondering how to make it not include the fluff in the bake process? Idk the setting/ui at all for this. Thanks!

[somber sequoia]

one of these days I need to try baking with substance painter

[ancient adder]

if theyre on different meshes, go to baking tab, select your mesh/texture set, select ambient occlusion in the mesh map pbakers section, ad set self occlusion to Only Same Mesh Name

[lethal temple]

Ill try that next time im in it, thank you

[potent basin]

oh wow, I didnt know this and Ive been using Substance Painter for a bit

thanks!

alternatively if you only want to remove part of the ambient occlusion for a smaller part of a larger mesh (if you want AO from some fur areas but not on others), you can delete the undesired parts from the mesh and then reimport the model

then after you rebake it, you can reimport the version of the model with the full geometry

[vernal quarry]

I met someone the other day that had a plushie they were able to both hold and place around the world. does anyone know how that's done?

[somber sequoia]

Constraint with the "freeze to world" checkbox

[vernal quarry]

yo wait, it's that easy? x'D

[somber sequoia]

well you still have to do the grabbing stuff but you use a parent constraint to stick it to your hand, and then yeah, pretty much

[silver bronze]

i need help 🙁

[vernal quarry]

ah yeah of course
but damn been looking all over n couldn't find an answer lmao, so thank you!

[silver bronze]

i dont know what any of this means but one of these is preventing me from uploading an avatar

[somber sequoia]

"missing script" is the one

something on your avatar requires an add-on package installed, and you didn't install that

[silver bronze]

hmm

idk how to find these

[somber sequoia]

check the documentation provided by the avatar creator, or the creator of whatever assets you've added

[silver bronze]

it isnt there for some reason so im clueless

[ancient adder]

Do you have vrcfury

[somber sequoia]

well you need Gogo Loco and VRC Fury at the least

[shell lark]

got a question on a avatar issue i am having she is just floating in the air in play mode but out of play mode she isnt floating and if i upload it into vrc she just floats up in the air

(and sorry dont mean to put this here during another issue someone is having)

[somber sequoia]

and something for face tracking - that should be clearly stated by the avatar creator

[silver bronze]

hmm

[silver bronze]

ive literally been looking for like an hour and i cant find the vrcft files

[somber sequoia]

maybe start here, but the name of that prefab isn't familiar to me, it may be something custom
https://github.com/benaclejames/VRCFaceTracking

[silver bronze]

tysm

[somber sequoia]

er, I meant this link: https://docs.vrcft.io/

(it probably links to the github later anyway)

[silver bronze]

@somber sequoia thank you i was able to figure it out

[distant sleet]

when i edited the fbx file in blender and upload it to unity the avatar has weird pose like a ball

this is my settings to export it from blender to unity

[somber sequoia]

probably set Apply Scalings to "FBX All". The rest looks ok

turn off leaf bones under geometry unless you know your unity project requires them

[distant sleet]

i did that too but still not working

[somber sequoia]

oh

you unpacked your model prefab

you can't update that now by just overwriting the .fbx file

[distant sleet]

what i dont get it

[somber sequoia]

yes?

[distant sleet]

now what its the porblem is

[somber sequoia]

I said. You'll have to drag a new copy of the avatar into the scene and copy stuff from the old to new

[distant sleet]

how could i do that?

[somber sequoia]

Pumkin's tools can do it

[distant sleet]

ok let me upload it

[distant sleet]

what should do?

[fading umbra]

hey sorry to but in, i need some help

[somber sequoia]

read the docs or something, I haven't used this in a long time so probably can't be much help.

[fading umbra]

i need to attach some things to my avi but cant figure out how

[distant sleet]

why she is in middle of z axis?

[night ember]

because thats where the root is

[somber sequoia]

please don't ping me for new questions, anyone here can answer.

but yes, that's why.

[night ember]

the root needs to be at the feet not the hip

[distant sleet]

ok to fix this should use blender or unity?

[somber sequoia]

Blender

[distant sleet]

she is already in perfect axis

[somber sequoia]

All transforms applied?

[distant sleet]

i just did that lemme se if its work

still not fix

[somber sequoia]

there's a setting in the upper left of the Scene view in Unity that can be "center" or "pivot" - it may be the wrong one you want

[somber sequoia]

iirc center is the actual center, where as pivot is the mesh's pivot point, as in the origin.

[distant sleet]

maybe this is the problem?

i did origin to geomtry to perfect scale the new outfit

[somber sequoia]

you generally want all of your avatar parts to have their origins at the world origin, 0,0,0

[distant sleet]

what now

[distant sleet]

should i select all then select one of these ones

to fix the problem?

[plain phoenix]

After adding an outfit to my avatar, something broke the sitting animations: in any world seat, I sit way too high. I'm not sure what extra info would be helpful - I have GoGoLoco 1.8.2 on it, used Modular Avatar to install that outfit, and I don't think I ever touched any animation controllers or layers apart from making new ones for the toggles (I make toggles manually, it's easier to organize the menu this way for me)

[sterile leaf]

first time uploading anyone know how to fix this?

[somber sequoia]

looks like file permissions errors to me, but always look at the first 2-3 error messages first

[sterile leaf]

alr

[late wharf]

My avatar keeps saying it can’t create a humanoid rig can anyone help

[ornate stump]

Read import message why it can't.

[hazy quest]

How do Booth Outfits have multiple versions for different Booth Avatars?
Does every single outfit variation have its own armature specifically for that Booth Avatar?
Or is there a Automatic way of it?

[tardy gazelle]

I am having an issue with an avatar, I am attempting to use rotation constraint on a robotic avatar for moving its forearm along the Y-axis trying to mimic the rotation of the wrist on it's Y-axis, but when I have it only freezing on the Y-axis, it disconnects from the ball joint of the wrist on the avatar (Sorry if I can't explain it well in text, Its difficult for me to put it in words with the issue im having)

[tardy gazelle]

Here it is only trying to mimic the Y-axis

[tardy gazelle]

And here it is mimicking all of the axis's

[crude pumice]

So you want the bone to move with the arm bone?

[tardy gazelle]

I want to move the forearm bone with the wrist on its Y-axis only

[crude pumice]

While also having a rotation effect?

[tardy gazelle]

But whenever I want it do that it will disconnect, so I have to resort to have it mimicking all of the axis's

[crude pumice]

Yeah sorry i cant be much of help i suck with constraint stuff

[tardy gazelle]

Fair

I have been banging my head on this for hours

[hard flume]

anyone know what to do to solve these? Q.Q

[ornate stump]

Any context what you did to get this error?

[hard flume]

I've only looked at the console after attempting to upload and it failed so I am not sure sorry

[ocean berry]

hey so does this alert update each time I edit something if now how/when does it update?

[somber sequoia]

it says "build" - you have to build to get that to update

[ocean berry]

annoying, but anyway ama just delete some assets that yes I wish was on it but I can make a 2nd avi for them

[somber sequoia]

this is the way

[ocean berry]

gosh this model is so un-optimised glad that I didn't make it

or not glad cuz if I did it would be

the fbx file of it is like 8.40mb while mine that looks more complex and has more assets is 2.20mb and I haven't finished optimising it

[dull sable]

Are you serious? Thats all i needed to do this entire time. So i can do the 3 categories but under one param is what you’re saying? Bruh why did i make that harder than it needed to

[ornate stump]

Not only me. There were like 3 people in total told you the same thing.

[somber sequoia]

it's part of the learning process 🙂

[dull sable]

Why did my brain think it needed to be 3 separate params. This is why i dont do png avis

Thx you three. Sorry you had to deal with my special brain moment

[tardy gazelle]

How do I stop the X and Z values from moving when rotating the Y axis?

[somber sequoia]

it's probably your transform pivot point - upper left of the Scene view, it says either "Pivot" or "Center"

[tardy gazelle]

I just checked it on both and it still moves the x and z values

[ornate stump]

How much it move?

[tardy gazelle]

About -5.344 on the X value and 1.144 on the Z value at their max peaks

[ornate stump]

Are you setting Tool Rotation handle in Global or Local space?

[tardy gazelle]

Global

[ornate stump]

Then if the parent objects aren't oriented Y streight up, it's going to change other axis as well because.

The transform value you see is in Local space.

[tardy gazelle]

I see

[tardy gazelle]

How do I fix this?

[ornate stump]

Is it actually a problem? Your local Y axis isn't oriented with global Y axis.

[tardy gazelle]

Yes because this is the problem that is happening due to this issue

[ornate stump]

Do you actually need to rotate in global space? Or just local space then you have set Solve in Local space in the constraint.

[tardy gazelle]

Are you able to do a call so that I may show you my issue more in detail? Because it is rather diffcult to explain just via text for me

[ornate stump]

No. I don't give personal support call.

[tardy gazelle]

Copy

But it seems for now I have fixed the issue- somehow

[humble perch]

how long do i have to wait to be able to send avatars?

on official site says about 4h but i still can't after 2 days

[ornate stump]

Send? You rather mean "Uploading" or "Publishing"?

[humble perch]

this?

[ornate stump]

#1139228456090087495 message Read a few first paragraph.

[humble perch]

i dont have 20h to play🥲

[ornate stump]

Why not?

[humble perch]

im playing for half a year and have 30h total

[ornate stump]

If you care enough to make an avatar you might as well spend more time on the game.

[somber sequoia]

you can also get a month of VRC+

[humble perch]

im not wasting money on games

[somber sequoia]

Time it is then.

[willow ermine]

SDK builder not showing anything at all

how would i fix this

[somber sequoia]

look in the console for errors, possibly restart Unity

[willow ermine]

ight

[late wharf]

How do I do that

[fierce palm]

Hey all! I wanted to honor my cats death by putting her into VRC!
Unfortunetly, im stumped on which base to make her. Any ideas?
(This was the last image I took of her before she died. Smiling as she passed in her boys lap. Im so grateful to have her for 12 years.)

[left gull]

in the configure menu there should be a dropdown called Import Messages, open that up and see what's causing issues (or you could check console as im pretty sure it prints there aswell)

[olive plover]

How much time should i spend ;-;

[willow ermine]

trusted user is needed for worlds and avatar uploades

[willow ermine]

also i still cant fix this for some reason

[olive plover]

I did the process of linking my acc.. maybe it didn't register yet

[olive plover]

Are there any logs diagnosting it?

[willow ermine]

no

[olive plover]

Loading problem maybe

[fierce palm]

Nope.
quoted from a thread above...
⚠️ You must be New User or higher before you can upload avatars to VRChat!

[olive plover]

New user?

But i am a new user :0

[fierce palm]

Well there ya go. You should have access then.

[ornate stump]

If you just merge recently, wait for a few hours until it's done processing.

[olive plover]

Thank lots for your help :>

ALright i'll be patient T^T

[willow ermine]

question do u know how to fix this

the build UI is not loading

and even when drop down is pushed it doesnt show

[ornate stump]

#avatar-help message

[fierce palm]

why is the creator of the video so sassy

like, slay queen

[left gull]

do you have a mesh named head?

[late wharf]

Would this be it?

Hold on it’s saying somthing about unique name

[light charm]

you need to rename your head mesh, it has the same name as your head bone and that confuses unity

you need to rename it in blender

[late wharf]

In blender ah! A whole new app to learn

Thanks anyways guys

[pallid nymph]

im sure this is a very nooby question..but how do I fix this for quest spacificlly, shader wise?

[balmy barn]

time to learn blender knife tool

[light charm]

or use multiply particle shader

[late wharf]

That’s what I do

[pallid nymph]

Already tried that LOL

[balmy barn]

does that even support backface culling

[late wharf]

Blender scares me I have a rog ally no mouse or keyboard

[light charm]

oh, i thought the hair was a seperate material xD my bad

[left gull]

luckily renaming is proabably the easiest thing, import .FBX> select head mesh>double tap the name>change it to something else>export with scalings set to FBX ALL and disable leaf bones

[pallid nymph]

side note: This also happens. Its weird. it is only when I put the shading to any realistic shaders. it HAS to be the 'flat' option

[late wharf]

Is this possible without a keyboard and number pad lol

[light charm]

seems like the normals are messed up
this happens sometimes if the model is exported from a game (which yours appear to be)

[left gull]

yep, just turn on your PCs on-screen keyboard

[pallid nymph]

Yeah, from bloodborn </3

[late wharf]

That’s a thing?! Thank you so much lol

[light charm]

😬
next time specify "bloodborn the game"
😅
there's a uh
illegal sdk with almost the same name

[pallid nymph]

Oh fr? mb, I didnt know that LOL

[fierce palm]

i what now

an illegal sdk?! tf?!

[left gull]

its modified which breaks TOS so illegal :P

[light charm]

yep

[fierce palm]

ah, illegal to VRC. gotcha

[pallid nymph]

Enabled alpha is transoarency..its all boxy which..is crappy, but it will do for quest ig </3

[fierce palm]

yeah, im fine with the legal version anyways. My first avatar came out ok. Its the mamehinata, but the Mouse accesory on booth does NOT work as intended. So i improvised and went with a Rat/Dog Hybrid.

[late wharf]

How to disable leaf bone what is a leaf bone

[somber sequoia]

it's a bone added on the end of a chain to indicate to Unity where the end is, since unity doesn't really know anything about bone length, it considers them all basically just pivot points

not really necessary in vrchat anymore

There's a checkbox in blender's FBX export to add them, it's enabled by default but probably just disable them unless you know for sure your avatar requires them in Unity.

[ocean berry]

hey I need my material to to glow but everything online says to use this one thing but as you can see it won't work

[somber sequoia]

Some of the mobile-approved shaders have emission, use one of those

[ocean berry]

like?

[somber sequoia]

I don't generally do mobile stuff, so I refer you to the documentation (such as it is)

I think the new toon one does though

[ocean berry]

it's not really for mobile, it's for the quest

[balmy barn]

android/ios = mobile

[somber sequoia]

same thing

quest is just a fancy mobile phone 🙂

[ocean berry]

well anyway I don't see how talking about that mean finding a material for the emissions that will work

[somber sequoia]

you don't find a material, you find a shader to use in your material.

[ocean berry]

this doesn't help yk

[somber sequoia]

how does it not help? use the new toon standard shader

[ocean berry]

and that what yous hould have said at the start

[somber sequoia]

I told you I don't usually do mobile stuff

And told you that some of the mobile shaders do support emission

you had all the clues you needed.

(I honestly couldn't remember the name of that specific one, since I've never actually used it)

[pallid nymph]

how in gods green earth do I fix this..

[somber sequoia]

"this"?

[left gull]

pretty sure they're talking about the colour changing/going full black randomly

[pallid nymph]

Yeah mb 😭

[somber sequoia]

I'm not assuming that's not intentional

which shader?

[somber sequoia]

right so specifically what is the problem? Is it the black? The emission?

[pallid nymph]

Legit dont know. I have no idea how this happen. I didn't mess with the shaders at all LMAO.

[somber sequoia]

no no

I mean what about this video do you consider "wrong"?

[pallid nymph]

The weird flashing colors and it randomly going black

[somber sequoia]

Got it. I was assuming the flashing colors is emission applied to the entire mesh

[pallid nymph]

Nono lol

[somber sequoia]

sure looks like it.

[pallid nymph]

There is no Emission though, which is confusing me

[somber sequoia]

same

[pallid nymph]

Weird. its fine in Prismics avatar world. It's only certian lighting which is used in most worlds

[late wharf]

The mesh head and head just both have the new name now

[willow ermine]

how would i go about finding that script

[pallid nymph]

so..this is what it looks like in blender..oh god..?!

[ocean berry]

oh the normals

I can actually help with this

go into edit mode and press shift + N

[lunar iris]

i need some help i dont knwo where to look for it but i would like to know where i can find the lock symbol from the old gogo local i like the way it looks but i cant find it in the latest

[ocean berry]

tell me if that works or not, if not I can still help you

[left gull]

id keep the bone name as head, its really only the mesh you need to change for those errors

[pallid nymph]

Dosnt seem to work </3

[ocean berry]

let me get into blender rq to show you what to do

[pallid nymph]

Alr!

[ocean berry]

does this say Clear Custom Split Normals? if it does press it

[languid orchid]

tryin to do a contact thing for a sowrd where i grab it, but it's not workin

[pallid nymph]

Oh my gosh your amazing!

[ocean berry]

np

[pallid nymph]

Now I have this issue, its odd, and fixable in unity, but might as well ask while im here!

[ocean berry]

make sure to shade smooth (shade auto smooth) on that shirt to make it less blocky

[late wharf]

Thank you so much it worked!

[ocean berry]

could be there are multiple faces ontop of each other if so edit mode, Merge (M) merge by distance

select all first

[ocean berry]

edit mode > A > M > merge by distance

[pallid nymph]

Hm..didn't seem to do much

[ocean berry]

sometimes you need to edit the merge by distance thing, do it again and you will see a pop up click it and you will see a number like 0.0001 so like make the one a 2 or maybe a 3

if that doesn't work I would make sure if there are actually multiple verts on each other, just go into edit mode select one of the verts that are a problem and drag

[pallid nymph]

Hmm dosnt seem like thats the problem

[ocean berry]

if there are no extra verts it could be a texture/uv problem

[pallid nymph]

Alright

[ocean berry]

anyway I have myself problem how do I fix this?

[ocean berry]

happend after I updated the sdk for a shader

[somber sequoia]

got one of those on your avatar root object?

[languid orchid]

You gotta have it on the avatar itself in the higharchy

[ocean berry]

the avatar under it or it under the avatar?

[somber sequoia]

ideally on the avatar root object.

[languid orchid]

Huh?

Avatar root objects?

[somber sequoia]

"root" as in the root of a tree, the top-most object in a tree is the root.

[languid orchid]

The avatar itself

[somber sequoia]

The hierarchy window on the left (by default) in Unity is a tree view.

[pallid nymph]

She's fixed! Thank you everyone who helped! Now lets hope that fixed the weird shading issue in game..

[pallid nymph]

siighh..

[somber sequoia]

Is that triggered by AudioLink?

[pallid nymph]

Nope

It looks to be like it depends where I am looking / standing

[somber sequoia]

is it specific to that world?

[pallid nymph]

Nope its other ones aswell

Only one it works in is prismics

[ocean berry]

okay so when I look it up in components it doesn't show up

[ocean berry]

could be the shadows?

[ocean berry]

test some other shaders on your avatar to see if it has the same problem or not

[balmy barn]

reminds me of the old bug where you could flicker if your feet was somewhat in ground

[ocean berry]

I wounder if the debug menu would be any help

[pallid nymph]

idk if this is what ur talking abt or not

[ocean berry]

yes thats the debug menu, i'm just wounding if it shows anything with shaders and rendering stuff like that

[pallid nymph]

oh my god its 10x worse with standard lite

[ocean berry]

oh could be the mesh/model if both are having the same issue

[ocean berry]

yeah honestly I have no clue why thats happening best I can do is guess and maybe point you in the correct direction

[pallid nymph]

Dont have a clue about nodes and stuff but if anyone knows if there is something wrong here lmk lol

[somber sequoia]

none of this applies when in Unity.

[ocean berry]

unity doesn't use blender nodes

[pallid nymph]

Ah alr

[spiral jay]

Hello, does anyone know what base this avatar is using?

I have been looking for the avi for a ccouple of months now and ive lost all hope

its made by this user https://vrchat.com/home/user/usr_032745e2-b349-4d28-8516-703e02a8e2ba

L͘UNA

[ocean berry]

I forgot to optimised and like... that little

[pallid nymph]

update: weird.. I cant see the preview for the avatar..even for the mesh/model in unity..

[ocean berry]

I think this is usually not a problem, but also take a look at the mesh(s) in the mesh folder and see it also does the same

[pallid nymph]

😭

[ocean berry]

yeah I think the mesh is what causing problems for you, and sadly I don't have enough knowledge to diagnose it

[pallid nymph]

Alr ty anyways </3

[ocean berry]

hope you solve it, it looks like a cool avi

[silver bronze]

i have a problem with an avatar that im having issues solving

i cant figure out what it wants me to do

when i was running the avatar in gesture manager some of the gogoloco toggles werent working so i figured that maybe it has something to do with that

[somber sequoia]

those parameters need to be added to your avatar parameters list.

gogo loco docs explain this

[silver bronze]

how i do that?

sorry im new to this

[somber sequoia]

yep, we all were at some point

[silver bronze]

so what do i do?

[somber sequoia]

as I said, the gogo loco docs explain this

[silver bronze]

gogo loco docs?

[somber sequoia]

documentation created by the creator of the prefab, yes.

alternatively you can use the VRCFury version which just does this automatically.

(how to do that is also in said documentation)

[silver bronze]

is there a way i can just delete it and move on?

[somber sequoia]

if you don't use gogo loco you can just remove it from your avatar. The prefab, menus, animation controllers, etc.

[silver bronze]

yeah but i cant find it

its there but i just dont know where

[somber sequoia]

well those errors you showed an image of are because you have the gogo loco submenu added to one of your avatars menus

[silver bronze]

umm

ok so how i fix?

[somber sequoia]

remove the gogo loco menu item from your avatar's menu, whichever one it's in.

no I can't tell you which one from here.

[silver bronze]

ooh i think i found it

nvm im putting this on hold for now

[prime escarp]

The search world has a dynamic light on by default. You can turn it down/off in the Room Options panel to see how it looks when unlit.

[nimble zenith]

Make sure when you export that basis in shapekey menu is selected, that transforms are applied and no poses have been made in pose mode. I am not sure what exactly causes it but if I was doing it directly I am sure i could figure it out.

[nimble zenith]

if u happen to go back and look check for a prefab on the avatar like in this clip and delete it, if that does not work check your parameter file located on the avatar descriptor as also show in the clip and add them there or find the menu and remove them from it as well. Sometimes the sdk bugs out and says there is a missing parameter when infact there isn't. To avoid this sometimes you could dupe the avatar and copy things over with pumkin tools. Its very frustrating at times.

Gogo may have its own parameter file in its own folder, those params may also be there

[silver bronze]

thank you.....however

oh

its not there

[nimble zenith]

Then it may be the Gogo Menu file rather than the avatar.

[silver bronze]

hmm

[jagged marlin]

heyo, is there a parameter that indicates wether the user is using hand tracking?

[silver bronze]

where would i find said file? if you know where that is?

im assuming since i cant find the files in the hierarchy i will have to fix it instead of removing it correct?

[nimble zenith]

If you delete the gogo folder that error should go away but the avatar will prob have a missing prefab on it.
The Param file with the puppets should be in this folder

Assets\GoGo\GoLoco\MainMenu```

[silver bronze]

how do i access the parameters?

[nimble zenith]

Just click on the file and it shows up in the inspector on the right.

[silver bronze]

hmm

i seem to be even more confused

[silver bronze]

oooh wait

i think something is missing

[nimble zenith]

The ones I marked are the ones in your error. If you add them there the error should go away. The other param file in the screenshot also contains them.

[silver bronze]

these are the only gogo ones in there

[nimble zenith]

Yeah that explains it then perhaps, you can add them manually or replace them with these. Should be ok to post since they are just the Parameters.

[silver bronze]

oh ok ty

oh wait now i gotta figure out how to add them there

[nimble zenith]

Theres a plus sign at the bottom, if you're referring to the menu they are in the same folder.

[silver bronze]

thankies

[turbid rapids]

i have a question is it possible to have a shader/ effect only show up on the camera?

[chilly raptor]

My shrink/flatten isn't working for some reason

[somber sequoia]

Yes

[turbid rapids]

how would i do this? :), im making a character who cant be seen on camera's so i want to put a glitchy looking shader on my avi but only have it show on camera's,

[somber sequoia]

You enable the option that does this in a supported shader.

Or are you writing the shader?

[turbid rapids]

no i dont know how to write a shader

sadly

[somber sequoia]

ok then you need to use one that can do this effect.

The only one I know of personally is Poiyomi, but I'm sure there are others.

[turbid rapids]

oh i had no idea poi could do that ill take a look at a few dif shaders

[somber sequoia]

It's under the SpecialFX section, and decently documented

[turbid rapids]

is there anyway to get it to where only the camera can see it ? @somber sequoia

[somber sequoia]

I don't know without looking at the Poiyomi docs, but shaders can definitely do that.

[nimble zenith]

does that happen in a fresh blender scene if u import the fbx into it ?

[loud vortex]

Could anyone point me in the right direction for exporting animations/poses from Blender, and setting it up as poses or gestures or whatever in Unity?
I got like 15+ years of technical Blender work, but I am going mental trying to figure this out for the last few days.
In Blender I have 5 different animation actions, export to FBX and in Unity only 3 of them ever show up.
Character and Rig is exported in one FBX, and Rig and Animations in a seperate FBX.
And when trying to preview or play the animations in Unity or the Gesture Manager Emulator my entire Avatar just spins around like a drunk bayblade...
I've set up animations in Unreal several times before, and never had problems like these.
I've set up Phys Bones and my Avatar works fine in VRChat at a basic level, but could anyone help setting up this animation stuff?
I've tried to attach screenshots of all parts that might be relevant

[ocean berry]

You may have to import the animation individual from the model, but idk

[loud vortex]

Yeah, I'm importing Geo/Rig and Rig/Anim separately.
I've also tried exporting single animations too, but doesn't change the fact that it goes all wonky as hell and spinns in Unity

[dark jay]

How do i mimic the Mega stone rim lighting in poi

Its the stone on the hat

[turbid rapids]

does anyone know any shader that has a glitchy screen effect?, and has the option to only show on the camera/mirror?

[somber sequoia]

Possibly also try #shaders

[distant nimbus]

new vrc update caused every physbone on my avi to float.. ive tried resetting and reuploading(in the same project after updating vrc fury). she looks fine in unity, even in play/game mode. now, she looks like this.

[crude pumice]

New update also messed with my view point ball too

Its higher then it should be.

I had to put the ball in the mouth.

[distant nimbus]

but these were taken in deskie .. is this a desktop issue too?

[crude pumice]

I was on desktop

[night ember]

curious what the hell people are doing to somehow make an update break their avatar

all of my avatars over the years still have yet to break (apart from the dynamic bone to physbone auto convert making them extra floppy)

[distant nimbus]

i have no clue. i updated vrc, hopped in desktop, and she loaded in like that after being completely fine.. and it is ONLY her

[night ember]

its significantly more likely its somethhng on your avatar

[distant nimbus]

yeah i have noooo clue. bc she was fine, i havent touched her project or anything. just randomly broke after the update. looks fine in unity and all

[distant nimbus]

this didnt fix it unfortunately, ty tho!

[dark jay]

Lmk

[civic sonnet]

Hi, I'm trying to export an avatar with blended shapes for the visemes. The problem is that, when I test it in VR Chat after exporting, the avatar's lips don't move, even though the shape keys are already assigned correctly. I hope someone can help me.

[distant nimbus]

bump

[rocky fractal]

try downgrading your sdk by 1 in creator companion

[distant nimbus]

nope : (

[left gull]

What does your vieseme setup look like in the avatar descriptor script?

[left gull]

you need to have all the slots filled if you want it to work

it wont work otherwise

[civic sonnet]

Ah, I read that it wasn't necessary, the basic ones were enough, but I'll try.

[left gull]

might just be poorly worded like it meant you dont need a custom vieseme for each section? i only use AH,CH,OH and SIL then add them to the other ones randomly if im doing viseme blendshapes

[distant nimbus]

bump

[civic sonnet]

That was it, I love you

[spark dew]

what does this mean

I need help pls

[errant comet]

If you didn't somehow figure out the problem, you cannot upload from inside a prefab. Top of the 3d window, click Scenes to return to the scene, that is where do the process for uploading.

[spark dew]

when I do that it stops building the avatar

I figured out how to put the avatar in

i working!

It finally uploaded

only took 4 months lmao

[chilly thorn]

so ive been having this slight problem, im noticing this ring untextured in game but in unity and my spp files its texture what could cause this?

[night ember]

Mip maps probably or compression or your shader/material

[chilly thorn]

im sorry can you exsplain a lil more for me

[night ember]

Cant really tell what it is

[chilly thorn]

this is my first avi ive went into detail with this so im like new and dump lol

[night ember]

Mip maps causes compression from a distance

They way you compressed/set the texture settings can fuck it up

The shader itself

Who knows

[chilly thorn]

ty at least i can start from thewre and if not its a mystery lolll

[night ember]

For all I know you have an emission that the texture is bleeding

[chilly thorn]

it was a map loll thank you so much

didnt even relise i had it on

[rare jacinth]

I have a blender question. I have a outfit that I molded to the base of my avi and I made shape keys for the clothes to move with the body toggles. But for some reason when I move the slider on the body the clothes still dont move with it.

I just went to the clothing and manually added the shape keys to fit the body when I enlarge or shrink the proportions of the body. But the clothes will not follow.

How could I do this properly so they will actually move with the body in blender?

[somber sequoia]

if you have it in Blender, the clothing should use the same armature as the body, and be weight painted to move with it

[night ember]

Separate meshes have separate sliders no matter if they are named the same or not

[rare jacinth]

Im not sure if they share the same armature. I know i did the data transfer and the weights work. I can move the body in pose mode and the clothes follow just fine

[night ember]

Its only when you join the meshes do the shapes combine

[somber sequoia]

if you have more than one armature, don't

[rare jacinth]

Im not too sure how to go about doing that

[rare jacinth]

The clothes dont have a armature only the body i made sure of that

[somber sequoia]

good

[night ember]

Pretty sure the person is talking about the shapekeys not moving with the body not the weight painting

[somber sequoia]

oh I see, I misread

[night ember]

Youd need to join the meshes since otherwise they are entirely separate

[rare jacinth]

I'll see if I can do that. Blender is so hard to learn 😪

[night ember]

Its just selecting both then ctrl j

Based on which you clicked first dictates which joins to what

[rare jacinth]

Gotcha thanks a bunch 🙂

[somber sequoia]

typical blender - the last thing clicked is the target

[rare jacinth]

Ah gotcha that's easy to remember

[night ember]

Yesnt

Whatever the one that shows white is the target

[languid summit]

How do I export an avatar from a prefab?

[nimble zenith]

A prefab is usually a preconfigured object/avatar. So the prefab is the avatar. If you would like to export the fbx of said avatar you can find it by selecting the body mesh & clicking the mesh in the Skinned Mesh Renderer

[languid summit]

Right

[hollow storm]

Anyone know what this could be?

Tried relogging, also tried downgrading the sdk which didnt work

[edgy iron]

Hey all, hope everyone is well.

So I've got an Avatar in Unity that I'm trying to upload to VRC but for some reason the Parameter Compressor isn't doing what it is supposed to and as a result I keep getting told I'm overbudget apparently, but what I don't understand is why and what am I supposed to do that doesn't involve having to take stuff off my avatar that I wanna have. I'd show images but I can't because this channel doesn't allow that for some reason.....

As a matter of fact in the avatar's inspector I'm seeing the message of "This component is dprecated and now does nothing. The VRCFury Parameter Compressor is now applied automatically for all avatars using VRCFury (if you are over the limit)" only problem is this supposed automatic application of the parameter compressor isn't doing a darn thing. So I don't know what to do, and I'm getting extremely annoyed.

I'm not even having this issue with another avatar that I've put way more stuff on.

[hollow cloud]

How would I add a audio clip as a toggle VrcFury?

[languid summit]

Thank you

[amber pivot]

my friend bought this tenna model from inkypop and im uploading it for him but for some reason the hands wont move at all but only the facial expressions still work
i unpacked the avatar, didnt work and I checked the avatar page but everything i need i have already. i also checked the FX and everything seems fine so ????????

[junior void]

Unpacking just causes more issues down the line, so you should never do that

Does the avatar have a gesture layer assigned?

[amber pivot]

yeah and its only these which go in the hand when toggled on

[latent estuary]

Hi guys, I have a very specific problem with my avatar that I have not been able to solve for weeks

On PC everthing is fine and the avatar works perfectly
On Quest, exact same project with some optimisation (copy from PC) -> People see my legs broken in full body tracking. More specifically they see my leg rotated in weird angle (like 180° rotation, broken etc)

Anyone has an idea? It sounds like a proportion problem or something related to the skeleton?

[amber pivot]

😭 okay but putting the right hand and left hand in the gesture fx legit just fixes it

[junior void]

What's a gesture fx

There's either a gesture layer or an fx layer.

[amber pivot]

i mean the gesture layer, i kinda call them all fxs lowkey 😭

[tardy portal]

why are they not doing their normal animations and doing... this instead?

[junior void]

This is in the FX slot, no?

Just screenshot your layers from the avatar descriptor 🥴

[amber pivot]

im not like well versed in unity terms lowkey so i think im just confused😭

[junior void]

This looks ok. Now it's up to what is in TennaHandGRIP

If you use a custom gesture layer like you do, vrchat will not use its built in animations for hands. If you remove that from there, it will

So the question is do you care about the custom hand gestures

[amber pivot]

i fixed it so its good now
for some reason the creator didnt add like the left hand/right hand layers in TennaHandGRIP, i just had to add them back to make it work again so its all good now 👍

[junior void]

Ok

[lost umbra]

With the recent update, I'm having issues with VRCLens not working properly. Anyone knows why?

[random hare]

is there a way to resize an avatar with an animation clip? ive tried doing it and it works in unity's gesture manager but it doesnt seem to work in the actual game

[ornate stump]

There isn't. How did do do it with animation clip to begin with?

[random hare]

i tried scaling the armature, scaling just the mesh, and the prefab

ive seen it on other avis before

[timber wharf]

afaik only gogo loco was able to do it for a while, and since introducing proper scaling via menu it got broken forever

if were talking proper scaling with viewpoint change and working fbt

[ornate stump]

Those working one is using model armature that isn't a part of humanoid bones. And using constraints to link the real armature to the actual model armature.

This doesn't change view position however. Since it isn't actually scaling the avatar.

[random hare]

ah alright thanks anyway

[raw slate]

Is there an available example project or something I could take a look at for this? It sounds like it could be really useful to reverse-engineer for my avatar which is using a bunch of textured planes that I intend to toggle back and forth between with blendshapes (they're intended to look hand-drawn, so they animate by flipping a bunch of booleans, essentially) It's been a while since I've used unity or made avatars but I'm pretty sure I'd be able to figure it out if I saw it in-engine.

I was able to figure out the visemes stuff pretty easy but there seems to be less support for eyes when made this way..

[mystic nova]

resending this for the millionth time because its not letting me for some reason...

i have a fairly big project on my hands, wanting to recreate connor from detriot: become human as much as i can...
this is going to be very difficult to explain so im gonna try my best warggh (i also made a video to try explain)

i've been wanting to recreate the "mood disc" effect on the side of the forehead.** however, i'm not too sure how to set some features up in the actual fx layer**
-# some info that might be useful to note also; i have made a flipbook gif and put it into poiyomi, and have made several "transition" states (i.e blue > yellow > blue , blue > yellow > red , etc.)

back to the main qurey...
i'm not too sure how to set conditioned circumstances or whatever up the fx layer conditions
my idea was, in the menu i can choose to change the disc from blue to YELLOW or RED (which i have done successfully and works as intended) HOWEVER, there's a certain condition i want: instead of going from blue to yellow and then back to blue (which would be a result of only having YELLOW enabled then disabled in the menu), let's say i have enable the RED toggle after YELLOW, the animation responsible for the "yellow to red" transition is triggered instead of "yellow to blue"
of course this would work vise versa, (i.e i have RED enabled and i also click YELLOW, it'll play "red to yellow") ... im not too sure if this is impossible and i'm spewing shit but my god this would be so cool... i have a very strong feeling it's possible i just odnt know how to set it up in the fx layer 😭

please please if i need to explain it a bit more let me know.. it's SO hard for me to explain

also yes i know the fx layer satup looks HORRIBLY chopped right now, but im working on it, perhaps that setup might also help??

[somber sequoia]

there's a lot going on there, but I'm not sure I'd use AnyState in here at all, it'll ignore any other transitions when that one happens.

[mystic nova]

ahh i know there's a lot,, i'm not really one for complex setups 💀 but understood! i'm still toying around with different approaches...

i'm doubting if it's even possible, but i have a strong feeling is.. it's kinda "able to select multiple ints at once" kind of deal but i dont know how to achieve that 😭

[somber sequoia]

yeah I'm not sure I've understood the logic you want, but it's probably possible

[mystic nova]

yeaah,, its super difficult to understand 😭 but i appeciate your idea!! i'll keep giving it a try ;D

[mystic nova]

nvm... i think i figured it out!! turns out i could've just used boolean parameters this whole time... i wanted to use bools for this but i didnt think it'd work 😭

[somber sequoia]

yeah those do seem like bools would work fine

[fossil lodge]

So this latest update that was supposedly supposed to fix high framerate physbones jitter..... broke my avatar by introduced jitter into my avatars ears....go figure. They've always been fine. Just regular awtter ears scaled up slightly. I couldn't replicate the issue on my other avatars, but my puppers ears do seems to behave differently, seemingly wanting to remain vertical no matter what way you move your head. Current plan is to wait to see if a patch fixes this, but figured woukd throw down some tags incase anyone else has the issue.

[balmy jackal]

is anyone an expert in booth gestures, I need help with my avi

[ornate stump]

You should just explain your question.

[glass condor]

Quick question: When configuring a Humanoid Rig in Unity, does my model HAVE to be in an enforced t-pose?

My model has a hunchback where the head is at the same height as the neck. So when I enforced t-pose, my model's head got stuck staring straight up. I reverted it, but that raises a few questions.

Do I HAVE To enforce t-pose for a model to upload properly to VRC? Will my model be fine if I DO enforce t-pose and it's looks absolutely bizarre only in Configure Rig mode?

[balmy jackal]

I need actual help it's not a question thing

[ornate stump]

Help as in you need people to do the job for you?

[balmy jackal]

no but need someone to talk to through multiple processes and issues I have had in the past, it's just a lot to list out

[somber sequoia]

you're not very likely to get that here, much more likely to get help if you explain each problem in text.

[ornate stump]

That still sounds like questions.

[ornate stump]

Yes you have to..

[glass condor]

ah. Hopefully it won't look funky in-game, cuz it seems alright in-game during Build and Test...except for the legs. I wonder if thats the issue.

[limber iris]

Hey,
not sure if that's the right channel since it is a general issue I have with all avatars but maybe someone knows a solution for it.

I use VRChat in SteamVR/PCVR via VD with a Quest3 / Pico4.

My Problem is:
When sitting in a GogoLoco pose and I don't move for a long time. My Avatar hands move to the default pose because the controllers switch off or go to sleep(As it should be).

But then when I move my hand again and press one of the buttons to open the launchpad my avatar resets it's position and turns into the "Error/Warning" robot avatar.

Once both controllers are active again and I press the launchpad buttons again my avatar loads or reloads again and I can use the avatar features like GoGoLoco again.

[balmy jackal]

ok cool?? lol

[lone shoal]

is there a way to make an avatar move the user other than having a collision box under your feet?

[arctic ginkgo]

oh ummm I don't know if I have one but I can make one real quick!

[amber gull]

any idea how to fix this error please?

[left gull]

neither of those really give a reason for the failure, is there anything in the upload panel or other red errors printed in the console?

[balmy jackal]

anyone know hwo to fix this error?

[amber gull]

avatar validation error it said on the panel

[ornate stump]

It's a side effect of other errors. So you have to look for error above that one.

[amber gull]

please what should i do

[ornate stump]

You also have to see other error above that.

[amber gull]

the yellow one?

[ornate stump]

Yellows are warnings which can be ignored mostly.

[amber gull]

u mean the red

[ornate stump]

Red is error, yellow is warning, white is info.

[somber sequoia]

Always start by looking at the first few errors in the console, at the top.

[amber gull]

ohh

its because of the mipmaps?

[ornate stump]

It is.

[somber sequoia]

probably - there's a "autofix" button in the VRC build console

[amber gull]

omg

[amber gull]

i did click it

didnt work

[ornate stump]

Didn't work as in what it's doing now?

[amber gull]

like i clicked the auto fix butto n and still gave me the error

[ornate stump]

Did you check other error as well? Clear console first, then start build.

[night ember]

There are 6 errors

[ornate stump]

Note the timestamp, that's the old one.

[lone shoal]

how does one make a movable view position for their avatar like how gogoloco has the slider for moving the avatar up and down while keeping their collider in place?

[ornate stump]

That's a job for https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors#animator-temporary-pose-space

[lone shoal]

cheers

is there a way to do that repeatedly so the viewpoint is always mounted on the head instead of just teleporting to it every few seconds?

[unborn crag]

So I was animating my characters face, she gets put into biker pose, how do I get her out of that pose?? Thanks!

[nimble zenith]

You're supposed to animate on a duplicate of the avatar so that when you're done you just delete the biker posed one and use the same animations on the actual model.

[unborn crag]

So... she's broken now?

[nimble zenith]

Hold on imma test something and get back to you.

[unborn crag]

Thanks

[arctic ginkgo]

@raw slate

This has a prefab for the eyes, two FX layer controllers (for either a blendtree or state machine setup), and an example avatar :D

[raw slate]

Legend
I'll be sure to give this a good study when I'm at my PC next
Could become a very valuable resource for other users, too

[left gull]

Pumpkintools has a reset pose button if you've got that add-on already

[unborn crag]

Ah thank you! Lifesaver

[arctic ginkgo]

awesome! jsyk, you'd probably use the state machine FX controller (and feel free to add or remove animations, play around with the thresholds on the conditions, etc), because that one has discrete eye positions (so you could draw each one), vs the blendtree one which animates something smoothly. I usually use this with animated texture offset

I've used this actually a lot before. My favorite examples are for a Murder Drones avatar (since their eyes are on a screen) and for a Sonic OC commission I did (since their eyes are stylized on a rounded plane on their face rather than two eyeballs lol)

[nimble zenith]

I forgot about that. I was trying to replicate your issue but my avatar just goes back to normal lol.

[arctic ginkgo]

let me know if you have any questions also!

you can ping me whenever and I'll respond when I'm available

[amber gull]

im still getting these errors even tho i went through every texture and enabled the mipmapped

[raw slate]

I'll be sure to post back with my results. Might take a few tries but I intend on eventually splicing in some kind of blink parameter into the mix, too. The end goal is to essentially mimic the default Eye Look but with autonomous, parameter driven states

[amber gull]

i really dont know why is giving me this error

[amber gull]

i fixed 2 but still

[amber gull]

still

[night ember]

you using fury or something to add them when you build

[amber gull]

what do u mean

i do use vrcfury

[night ember]

could be something getting added

[amber gull]

how can i fix it

[night ember]

check those textures?

[unborn crag]

wooow i'm so jealous all these add ons are so helpful!

[arctic ginkgo]

ooh awesome! I usually do blinking by animating a parameter so I can use that to drive animations. I make a layer with two states that transition with exit time set to 1, and then a condition that will always be true (this is because if there is no condition there is a bug that will sometimes prevent the transition from completing). One state has a 1D blendtree that has an animation at threshold 0 and 1, each lasting a min and max duration (these animate the blink parameter to 0), then the other state has an animation that changes the blink parameter to 1. This also has a parameter driver that sets the parameter in the one in the blendtree to a random value between 0 and 1

I can send an example of this too

[nimble zenith]

Try doing this to find all the textures. Also don't just change them all at once unless you know what you're doing, could break textures that way. You may have to also do this for every prefab that contains meshes with materials as well. But I cannot remember if this method grabs them all or not, nothing is on the avatar im testing with so.

[amber gull]

all selected

[nimble zenith]

Then it must be one of the textures fury is adding onto the avatar after you attempt to upload like Diven said. This method won't work for vrcfury attached components cause technically they are not on the avatar until the play/upload process. Make sure to check any other prefabs on the model.

But from what I see, the checkmark is there and that is the one responsible no ?

[amber gull]

yes

[nimble zenith]

If it worked before check anything you have added on then.

[arctic ginkgo]

this is how I drive my blink parameter which can be used for driving animations

[somber sequoia]

simply select a different animation from the dropdown after you're done working on one and it'll reset the avatar to the default pose.

no need to make copies of your avatar, but it certainly doesn't hurt.

[arctic ginkgo]

@raw slate you can edit the animations to change the behavior. The 5 and 10 second animations are the min and max time between blinks, so changing the position of the last frame changes this. The "blink on" animation is the actual blink animation, so you can change the keyframes to animate the blink however you want. This one just instantly sets the blink to 1, but you can also smoothly animate it, change duration, etc.

[spark walrus]

excuse me what

[somber sequoia]

just because it has those bones, doesn't mean the rig setup is correct, or the bones are mapped properly in that rig setup

[spark walrus]

i set up this one the exact same way as others and they never had this issue

[somber sequoia]

obviously I can't tell you more from here, you'd have to go see what the rig setup looks like now

[glass condor]

I got a pretty simple question: My avatar has fur on its collarbone that blocks my vision in VR when I move my head. Is there a way to hide the fur without straight up removing it?

[somber sequoia]

VRC Head Chop component

[unborn crag]

but see, when I did this my clothes went away from the avatar!!!

like it's so confusing

[glass condor]

trying that now, thanks!

[unborn crag]

and she never stands on her own she never returns ugh

[somber sequoia]

If your clothing is not linked to the avatar in the right way, that happens. Like if it's connected via VRCFury's armature link

[unborn crag]

vrc fury didn't work for me in game the clothes bent really bad always, so i used another plug in called Modular avatar.

[somber sequoia]

probably works similarly

[unborn crag]

ugh ): am I fucked or something?

Like do I have to redo everything now?

[somber sequoia]

I personally have no idea, I've never used modular.

[unborn crag]

ah okay

:c

[glass condor]

I have a weird head bobble now whenever I move...Someone said it might be because the neck bone is too small..Is there a way to fix it in Unity WITHOUT having to go back to Blender? 😭

[nimble zenith]

Make sure the clothes you are adding are meant for the avatar, otherwise clipping may occur. To fix that you would have to adjust the weight paint in blender.

[nimble zenith]

Click on the fbx where you set it to "Humanoid" and hit "configure" to make sure the bones are mapped.

[brisk brook]

ok, so i am like, brand new to this, but i am trying to make a model where speaking changes a factor of the material rather than affecting bones or anything

the avatar is gonna be 2d, paper mario style

[fringe belfry]

i imported final ik and now i got this error im sure its an easy fix but idk how to fix it TwT help?

[somber sequoia]

one way to do this is to use the Viseme parameter in the animator. There's also one for volume

[brisk brook]

ive been trying to work out how parameters work

i can make them, but they dont do anything

[somber sequoia]

you have to use them in an animation

[brisk brook]

right, and i can like, make a state machine, but that too seems to need connected to something i havent done

[somber sequoia]

do that in an animation controller that's in your avatar's FX animator slot

[brisk brook]

ok, gimme a sec

@echo plover mentioned this wouldnt work and i need 2 different animations i think

[uneven bough]

anyone know the solution to this error? i'm currently in safe mode cause it's preventing the project from compiling

[clear tapir]

switch to quest greyed out, cant add android module

[somber sequoia]

That happens if you install unity manually without doing so via unity hub, it's annoying. You have to remove it then reinstall via hub, by using hub to get you to the archive webpage

[clear tapir]

Thats dumb

I didnt even install it manually i used the creator companion

[rigid jetty]

??