avatar-help

[modern silo]

Hi, I imported fbx to unity but suddenly my right bodies became weird. How to fix this?

[somber sequoia]

what exactly is weird? maybe show the blender one for comparison

[modern silo]

Here

Actually not black

Can u solve this?

I already Shift + N in Blender

But still didnt work

[still shuttle]

looks like a face issue, go into blender and turn on face orientation and see if anything is red

[modern silo]

I also check that but its nothing happen

[still shuttle]

What shader are you using?

in unity

[modern silo]

srry idk how to see that
can u teach me how?

[still shuttle]

Locate the material you are using in unity by clicking on the body mesh and looking in your inspector window, it'll have a list of materials

[somber sequoia]

likely just the default if the .fbx only just now got imported

[modern silo]

This?

[still shuttle]

Yeah, thats not a shader I have ever used so I cant really help you with that sorry. I was gonna recommend using somethin like the new toon standard shader and turning off culling to see if that would fix it.

[modern silo]

But I dont think the shader problem
in this image i dont use any shader but it still weird

[still shuttle]

yeah ik, i was wondering if its a culling problem

and using a shader that has an option to turn it off would see if that is the issue

[somber sequoia]

I'd hope you don't need backface culling off for just a basic mesh

[still shuttle]

unfortunately I see that issue a lot with basic meshes

[modern silo]

Here, this is standard material that only uses the texture

I thought this is face direction issue but it isn't

[ornate stump]

It is face direction issue.

[modern silo]

Ok... I try to fix

I tried to invert face direction at weird parts

It little darker than left sides

Oh wait it works

Tx

🤔

is this normal?

[fickle bridge]

tw scars

the avatar looks fine in play mode but whenever i upload her mouth just does this when i speak into the mic

and it stays like this until i reset the avatar

[stable sluice]

i need help. i havent uploaded avis in month, so i dont know about new stuff. so this comes up in my console when i try to upload an avi, blueprint is btw constantly empty, i cant detach anything. what can i do?

[somber sequoia]

look at the first few errors, not the last. This is probably just a side-effect of some other problem

[stable sluice]

these 4 are the only 'errors', and still i dont know what to do :') i dont understand it

[fickle bridge]

i cant find anything about this online 😭 what could be the issue

[somber sequoia]

Errors are red. But if that's all in the console, check in the SDK build window, you probably have a blocking error there.

[exotic quarry]

my only guess would be some sort of controller issue for the buttons linking to the face emote, you said it stays like that permanently until you reset it? like it just breaks and stays?

[fickle bridge]

yup

it just grows bigger the more i talk

i dont have anything messing with the lipsync but why did this even happen 😭

[exotic quarry]

I don't know what that could even be but it sounds like you got a glitch that turns your avatar into an ARG 😭😭😭

[fickle bridge]

lol true 😭

i was making her a little closer to the horror theme but

vrc wanted to take the matters into its hand

[still jasper]

I'm having problem with the visemes. The video I'm following is asking me to change the conditions, but adding a condition doesn't work and I'm not sure what I have to do to make it work or what I missed. I see the error on the bottom, I just don't know what it means.

[somber sequoia]

"parameter does not exist" means the parameter you are trying to use is not in the animator. You'll have to add that.

[stable sluice]

alright, it was the blueprint that not existed. i needed to waste one of my older avis, copied their blueprint and attached it to the new one. worked. i still dont get why it is like that, but whatever. still thank you for trying to help

[somber sequoia]

... that is bizarre, but okay.

not that re-using a blueprint ID means you'll overwrite that avatar with the new one

[still jasper]

Ohhh. I made it incorrectly, I see it now. Thank you.

[stable sluice]

That's what I think.

Oh wait

I should read all the messages before I respond. Lmao

[somber sequoia]

I find that really helps. You know, usually after I didn't do it and responded anyway.

[strong zephyr]

So, this is what I've been doing, Making this object fit the edges of my image. Now, how do I apply this and export it?

[somber sequoia]

file -> export -> export FBX

[strong zephyr]

Right, but how do I apply the uv unwrapped and adjusted to fit the image to the object? I exported it the way it is, but when I reimported the object and added the image to the base color, apparently the unwrapping didn't stick or apply.

[somber sequoia]

apply? you don't apply a UV map

you edit the object itself, altering/creating/etc UV maps

maybe I'm not understanding what you're trying to do

[balmy barn]

saving the uv for editing in something else like gimp?

not sure

[strong zephyr]

Sounds simple enough, if I knew how to do that. I'm trying to save the model's uv unwrapping so that when I carry over to Unity, and apply the image, it applys it to the object the way I had it when I unwrapped it in blender to fit the image. In blender, I made seams to unwrap it the way I wanted it to unwrap and I adjusted the vertices to fit the image. But, I don't know what I'm doing wrong. And yes @somber sequoia "Really" I'm not that knowledgeable apparently.

[somber sequoia]

that's fine, just trying to understand what you're doing. It sounds reasonable so far though. if the texture works how you want in Blender, it ought to in Unity as well.

[steep herald]

Sorry to jump in mid-troubleshooting. Those helping with Hinder can ignore this. - I have a brand new .fbx imported for a quest avi with only 2 material slots that are using VRChat/Mobile/Standard Light, no particles, no animations. The SDK is picking up the selected materials as other than just that. Mobile shaders. What would potentially cause the SDK to misread my current mobile shaders?

[somber sequoia]

This looks perfectly fine to me.

[somber sequoia]

then it's not those materials, it's some other one.

[strong zephyr]

Right, but I exported the uv unwrapped object as a fpx, and reimported it into blender to make sure everything stuck the way it should, and it didn't.

[somber sequoia]

wait, exported from what?

[strong zephyr]

Exported it from blender, and reimported it into blender.

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure why that would break anything

[steep herald]

Of course, but it has no prefabs. No animations. No VRCFury addons, no particles.

[somber sequoia]

obviously without your scene I can only suggest that you missed something somehow

[steep herald]

Sure, but the sdk is pointing to my quest avatar, and the only thing toggle in my scene is the quest avatar with 2 material slots. So where could the sdk pull a material from if it only has one skinned mesh?

This one might actually be an SDK Glitch.

It twas, alas a re-import has magically fixed this crude error, how uncivilized

[strong zephyr]

This is the model I just did that won't keep the uv unwrap how I unwrapped it, here's the base image.... Also, I'll share with you one that was done by someone else for me.

This one is working just fine, and uses the same image I provided in the last reply.

[steep herald]

I opened your model, what's the issue?

3d Modeling is my bread and butter

[strong zephyr]

The Sock.R-SpiderWeb-example isn't unwrapping the way I want it to. I mean it did, and then I exported it and it doesn't appear the way I had it before I exported it, when I reimport it back into blender.

You see the one on the left is one that was done for me, the one on the right I did myself.

[steep herald]

Ok so you're UV-Unwrapping, exporting < Re-importing and it's different?

[strong zephyr]

yes

It should look like the one on the left, the one that was done for me.

[steep herald]

Let me take a look at the UV-Maps and what not. The only time I've had any sort of related issue with UVs being different was with naming issues on multiple UV-maps. Idk, let me take a look at this thing.

Are you using all of these?

[strong zephyr]

Not sure what that is

[steep herald]

UV-Maps have different uses for diff engines, for VRChat its most commonly used for UV-Tile discards or making Light maps if you're a world creator. This person who fixed it for you had an issue with a UV-Map and they removed one.

Im going to test this now, im going to create a new UV-Map, unwrap it, and re-import it and well see what happens.

[strong zephyr]

Awesome

[strong zephyr]

I'm going to send the blend file for my project to you, can you take a gander and inspect it?

[strong zephyr]

I'm going to friend request you, then send it to you in a message.

[steep herald]

Yea sure, im going to do this mini test first rq.

[strong zephyr]

Yeah, that's totally fine with me. Thank you so much for your help.

[steep herald]

Yea sure thing, moving to dms now.

[still jasper]

I have a lpoly 2d avatar
If I wanted to change the way the visemes look based on what expression my avatar has, how would I do that?
(Ex: If the gesture expression is set to an upset expression, the viseme mouths would no longer be the smiling ones.)
I've seen 2D avatars do it before, so I'd like to know if anyone knows how to accomplish that. I have the mouths I wanted for it already imported into Unity

[graceful pasture]

Ok, i am either stupid, missed something or going crazy after my computer reinstall....
I am doing a new avatar and suddenly all my position numbers and stuffs needs to have two extra zeroes.

What i mean that in my old project i could do "0.14" in physbone collision radius. But in my new project i suddenly need to do "0.0014" in the radius to get the same result.
I even did a size check with a ruler asset to make sure my avatar is the same height as usual, and it is the same height.

Anyone smarter then me that knows why this is a thing?

Old project avatar

New project avatar

Notice endpoint and radius difference.... If i dont add the two zeroes the cylinders gets large as heck on the new avatar

same base and same size. just different clothing

---

Welp. I feel stupid..... Forgot to do "apply scaling: FBX ALL" in blender when exporting -_-"

[uneven whale]

Please tell me what is responsible for synchronizing the animations of pc and quest avatars? Some people add to their avatars that are only available on one platform. I wonder how I can find out what is responsible for this?

[round comet]

paramaters and fx need to be identical between platforms

And animations may get weird if items are deleted as well

[uneven whale]

I understand, but I ran into a problem, I use the author's extension of poses "buddy works" and when using on quest my avatar blinks when I use the animation of the face with closed eyes from the action menu, while on pc everything is fine. in the descriptor everything is identical and in the animators of both versions everything is the same too

[round comet]

I’d honestly consult the creator of the addon for that

[uneven whale]

I already wrote to the author, even he doesn't know how to solve this problem...

[civic cliff]

is there still a way to make a transparent clothing item like sunglasses on the quest side of an avatar?

i tried using the particle shader that didnt work

[lilac orbit]

Animations sync between PC and Quest because both avatar versions share the same blueprint ID and matching animation parameters/FX layers. If something only shows on one platform, it’s usually because Quest doesn’t support that feature.

[lilac orbit]

yes you can but only with the Oculus/Standard shader set to Transparent or Fade and an alpha texture. Particle shader won’t work.

[civic cliff]

ah ok

[civic cliff]

did not work, just came out as purple in game

i figured it out

i was using the wrong particle shader

particles mutiply still works

[wild needle]

Loaded data for an avatar we do not own, clearing blueprint ID
UnityEngine.Logger:Log (UnityEngine.LogType,object,UnityEngine.Object)
(wrapper dynamic-method) UnityEngine.Debug:UnityEngine.Debug.LogError_Patch1 (object,UnityEngine.Object)
VRC.Core.Logger:LogError (string,string,UnityEngine.Object)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder:ClearAvatarData (VRC.Core.PipelineManager) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:1740)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder/<HandleAvatarSwitch>d__100:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:1603)
System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncTaskMethodBuilder1<VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar>:SetException (System.Exception) VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCApi/<GetAvatar>d__31:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.base/Editor/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/API/VRCApi.cs:580) System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncTaskMethodBuilder1<VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar>:SetException (System.Exception)
VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCApi/<Get>d__171<VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar>:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.base/Editor/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/API/VRCApi.cs:383) System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncTaskMethodBuilder1<VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar>:SetException (System.Exception)
VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCApi/<MakeRequest>d__162<object, VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar>:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.base/Editor/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/API/VRCApi.cs:346) System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncTaskMethodBuilder1<System.ValueTuple2<VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar, System.Net.Http.HttpResponseMessage>>:SetException (System.Exception) VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCApi/<MakeRequestWithResponse>d__152<object, VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar>:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.base/Editor/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/API/VRCApi.cs:337)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext:ExecuteTasks ()

what does this error mean?

[somber meadow]

Screenshot your console instead of pasting error details. Your error is much farther up in the console

[timber wharf]

well, 2nd error, blender time🤷‍♂️

[wild needle]

fixed it

[fresh rose]

Uhh what do i do when a bone says
'Spine transform waist has bone length of zero'

[balmy barn]

throw av in blender and look at the bone, might be miniscule

[fresh rose]

kk ill check it

[fresh rose]

looks like this

any issues?

i fixed it

but uh what shader is quest compatible for particles?

[night ember]

alpha blended is the only one that isnt

[whole sigil]

is there any practical way to use the new* toon standard features in a fall back shader? Every time I swap away from the shader the toggle boxes for various features are forced off, and they can't be animated on. I also can't material swap to them because I only want that to be done if my avi's custon mats are blocked, which apparently isn't a thing an avi can tell has happened

[night ember]

the fallback shader thing switches to the most optimized shader possible

[whole sigil]

it feels a bit ridiculous that my quest version shaders get to look better than my PC fallback version

[night ember]

typically the fallback shaders only exist if your shaders are disabled
not to look good

[whole sigil]

saw my model with backup shaders on a stream and just like, got a powerful urge to FIX that

[night ember]

even on quest side it also defaults to that

[whole sigil]

I thought quest side it was basically all or nothing since you were already restricted to the shaders that were valid for fallback

[night ember]

fallback shaders is a shader to fallback to
its not meant to be pretty

cause otherwise youd be either solid white or solid error pink

the fallback shader is default settings standard lite

[whole sigil]

I've defintely had fallback shaders in poi set to things that weren't standard lite

[night ember]

or well whatever can transfer like the first emission

then do that

[whole sigil]

I caaaan't with the new one

that's what's bugging me

IDK I don't think there's a satisfying answer here 🤷‍♀️

(streamers don't set fallback on trusted users, that's lame)

[inner perch]

Are overlaping uvs bad?

[unreal crow]

still having this issue ever since yestrday!!! please help!! yes i restarted my pc yes i reopened the app and yes i updated it

[somber sequoia]

if you're making light maps, yeah. If not, not really, no.

[inner perch]

How about on an avatar?

[somber sequoia]

"if not"

[inner perch]

Ok i understand now

Thank you

[tacit yoke]

how could i fix when i lock a decal it shows on the avi but when i unlock it to work on it, it goes away

[limpid cargo]

for the heel shoe, better placing the feet under your origin or raise your feet above your origin?

[somber sequoia]

you should not have parts of your avatar under the origin

[limpid cargo]

i'm concerned about the foot bone's offset at this point. it's unavoidable...

[tacit yoke]

settings in the inspector are set to animate when locked and is preventing me to change the settings for those parts but its needed for what i want, any ideas how to fix it? tried resetting it and it didnt fix

[somber sequoia]

you mean with poiyomi perhaps?

[uneven cosmos]

does anyone have like a prefab for like a menu that as a shit ton of emotes built into it? i keep seeing avatars that have loads of the same folders and emotes on them i want to be able to put htose on my own avatar

[tacit yoke]

ya

[somber sequoia]

there's a weird bug I keep encountering with the latest Poiyomi and latest VRChat SDK, had to roll back to SDK 3.8.1 in order to do anything useful with poiyomi.
I detailed it in the shader-problems channel on their discord but I so far I've had basically no response at all.

It may be what you're encountering also

[tacit yoke]

trying now, but the issue that is occurring is that when i try to saturate a material it shows in the material circle but not on the avi until i lock it then you have to unlock it to change it and relock it to show it

[somber sequoia]

yep, that sounds familiar

[tacit yoke]

how fun, also changing the sdk seemed to help thank you for that information

[somber sequoia]

mind mentioning this in the poi discord also? I was assuming that since I'm one person I got ignored, but if more people say it's a problem maybe they'll take it seriously

[uneven cosmos]

does anyone have this? google is givingg me completely unrelated results

[somber sequoia]

I haven't had the time to try to debug it myself yet

[tacit yoke]

would you mind sending the invite for it?

[somber sequoia]

sure, DM in a sec

[mild solar]

i’m confused, i’m getting this error but the armature is directly under the avatar name/root, and when i auto fix it has still been going for an hour now (‘: so i copied/pasted project and have that open but the same issue

i have no idea how to fix

because it looks like it’s correct

[merry ermine]

So I have a question. I have a model that I'm trying to upload for my bf, but only the hair textures are actually working in unity, I've tried creating a new material, but that's wanting to give me issues. Any help would be awesome

[uneven cosmos]

just put all of the textures onto one image

that way you only need one material slot

but then again that sort of needs to be odne before you uv map but you an just realign stuff easily

[merry ermine]

I didn't do the UVWrap for this model, and it's like 6 different texture maps. He got the model from an FFXIV rip

[uneven cosmos]

oh idk how to help you then

[merry ermine]

I'm not really sure either. I think it's a problem with some objects having mutiple materials assigned, which, while I could change, that would mean weight painting it all again, but I might have to.

I really don't know what's going on with this model, usually I make my own stuff, and the first time I don't I get problems

[unreal crow]

still need help!!

[somber sequoia]

changing material slots doesn't affect weight paint

[somber sequoia]

#creator-companion might be better, but also it'd help to explain what we should be looking for in this video

[merry ermine]

The problem is that there's parts of the body that have like 3 different materials, but are all 1 object, and if I might have to reweight paint if I seperate them. Hopefully not though

[somber sequoia]

that shouldn't either - weights are stored in vertex groups

[dry ibex]

Is it not obvious whats happening in the video wtf 😭

Is this a bot

[somber sequoia]

haha

I wish you luck then

[ornate moat]

It is quite obvious that his creator companion is glitching and flashing white in the video Kazin

[somber sequoia]

I don't use VCC or Windows, wasn't sure if that was the problem or something intentional

[fiery crow]

Alcom >

[autumn copper]

I can help you if you don't mind

[hazy quest]

What's the best way to make Detachable and re-attachable limbs?
How should I go about it?
If it's detached, nothing should be left behind.

[balmy barn]

arm : seperate arm mesh in blender - delete all the other bones not needed for the arm

make an av without that arm keep its bones for rotation constraints,

[modern silo]

How to enable this
I cannot

[balmy barn]

download them

[modern silo]

OOhhh

Tq

[lusty beacon]

For some reason my avatar is transparent, what should I do?

[junior void]

hope you know youre in prefab edit mode

you might have disabled the skinned mesh renderer or you just have a transparent material on

[hazy quest]

1-Arm as a seperate mesh, and it's seperate bones (The avi still has its bones as a placeholder?).
Can you please show me your constraints?

Please tag or reply to this message so I get the notification.

[modern silo]

Um

I doing with only following the tutorial

Why cannot use this

[junior void]

it doesnt support that shader as it states

not for quest build target

[modern silo]

But some time ago it didn't show this

[junior void]

some time ago you probably had window build target selected

[modern silo]

Uh

[junior void]

read what it says

use the ones from VRCHAT->MOBILE

[modern silo]

Hmmm

Ok i try

[inner perch]

Should i be worried about this?

Its just a warning but i wanna be sure

[timber wharf]

thats just unity warning and you cant have any lights on mobile avatars anyway

[inner perch]

Ok good

[ornate stump]

You have to change your project location.

[ornate stump]

And plus, you're using wrong unity version.

[oblique rover]

Does anybody have any experience with TRISTA items?

[ornate stump]

You should better elaborate your issue.

[oblique rover]

My bad I just got into making Avis like 2 days ago and I bought some cool items from a creator called TRISTA

They have this cigarette thing and it floats and makes cool effects and stuff but I’m trying to implement it into mamehinata

The constraints are fine but the cigarette box floats way too high for me to actually reach

The normal mount is fine but it’s supposed to have an animation where it flies infront of you so you can touch it with the lighter

Issue is it floats way too high

[ornate stump]

Does instruction tell you to adjust some object location to match with your own avatar?

[oblique rover]

The instructions show how to add the constraints

Where I want it to be on my hips

But it doesn’t mention anything about the height that it floats at

I do apologize if I’m not explaining too well I’m extremely new to this

[ornate stump]

When setting constraint, you might have to move object to the desire location before activating it.

[oblique rover]

The constraints are all set I’m pretty sure it’s just the animation of it floating is too high

Since mamehinata is pretty small

I don’t know

I’m just confused haha

[ornate stump]

Did you actually "move" your object first?

[compact kindle]

hello would someone be abel to help me with uploading avis
i would like if the person that helps me is respectfull and patient with me

[floral nexus]

hi

[compact kindle]

hey

[somber sequoia]

feel free to ask (detailed) questions here

[compact kindle]

okay i feel like i'm to subit and need a sep by step guide

[somber sequoia]

have you watched any tutorial videos on this? There are many, such as this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTlZXDJueks

[compact kindle]

i have watched many and ppl also helped me but i still get problems

[ornate stump]

It's better to also elaborate your specific problem.

[compact kindle]

that's the thing idk where to see what the problem is and/or when i find the report idk how to find what the problem is

[ornate stump]

You know you're having a problem so explain how you know you're having the problem, start providing information from there.

[compact kindle]

i try to build and publish an avi doing everything thats in the instugtions and it won't work

[ornate stump]

Also include screenshot will better explain your issue.

[compact kindle]

i'll take some

[ornate stump]

Do you see the sdk is reacting or anything? Also take screenshot if you're unable to explain.

[compact kindle]

reacting in responding or?

[somber sequoia]

yeah, please explain "won't work" in a way that we can actually understand what is happening.

[ornate stump]

Just what it does after you hit build.

[compact kindle]

oh nothing for one sec and then i said unable to build

[somber sequoia]

error messages like that usually have detail

[compact kindle]

i'm starting the projekt rn

[sour sparrow]

why do my particles that are supposed to go in a straight line show as sideways in vrc but are normal in unity?

[ornate stump]

How did you make your particle?

[sour sparrow]

wdym

i made it so its coming straight from my fist in vrc, but it appears horizontally when its supposed to appear in a line in front of my fist

[ornate stump]

Did you use gesture manager to test in unity?

[sour sparrow]

yeah

i tried putting it into the world view but it doesnt work

[somber sequoia]

"world view"?

[ornate stump]

You really have to provide how the particle is setup. Emission and shape and such.

[sour sparrow]

in the renderer section i put it to world instead of local

i cant really show it in vrc because its a split second thing

[somber sequoia]

Ah that, yep

[ornate stump]

Is it actually alignment?

[sour sparrow]

yeah

[compact kindle]

i started the projekt and it said that it will add things that the projekt needs (i used vrc cc)

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot the setting that you make it to go straight line?

[somber sequoia]

that looks like you have two copies of Poiyomi in the project.

[ornate stump]

You imported poiyomi shader twice.

[somber sequoia]

definitely don't do that

[compact kindle]

it did that byitself. how do i fix that

[ornate stump]

Delete one in Assets folder.

[compact kindle]

there is one in assets and one in packages

[ornate stump]

Delete one in Assets folder.

[compact kindle]

okay

i did that should the reports now clear it if i press clear

bc they don't

[somber sequoia]

you may have to restart Unity for that to clean up

after that let's see what new errors show

[compact kindle]

okay

i got this when i opened it again

[ornate stump]

Ignore then check error again.

[compact kindle]

okay i got scared by it lol

[ornate stump]

Did you add poiyomi shader via vcc?

[compact kindle]

yea

[ornate stump]

Try removing in vcc and re-add again.

[compact kindle]

okay

should i remove anything else

[ornate stump]

No.

[compact kindle]

okay

everthing gone

the reprts

srry

[somber sequoia]

yeah the VCC package probably didn't install the extras like Thry's editor because was already there.

[compact kindle]

oh

[somber sequoia]

ok good, this is progress.

[ornate stump]

You haven't install vrcfury.

[compact kindle]

can i just add it over vcc

[somber sequoia]

vrcfury.com

(but yes, you can)

[compact kindle]

okay

omg i think it works

[round comet]

Woo :o

[compact kindle]

it worked @ornate stump@somber sequoia thank you soooo much ily

you guys saved my sanity

and now how do i make it quest compatible

[rotund charm]

Ive got this radio asset, I can hear it at full volume, but for others its SUPER quiet

only when they are close to it too

[void silo]

First time doing this (we all gotta start somewhere) but I've got the model in the editor but am unsure how to get the shaders working. I will be using the Poiyomi Toon shader due to assets I want to use with the model when I learn more. It's pink until I disable the lilToon section to the left and then the model vanishes. I have the Poiyomi Toon package but trying to import it didn't seem to do anything as the model is still invisible.

[compact kindle]

go to the materials and look if you have the right shader

[void silo]

god it's like learning Blender all over again lol, where is the materials tab? there's a lot going on with Unity

just all materials?

[compact kindle]

assets>novabeast>materials

[compact kindle]

yea

[void silo]

Yeah there's stuff there!

[compact kindle]

show me

[compact kindle]

okay idk whats wrong there

[void silo]

I love 3D software :')

hm

[compact kindle]

same

[void silo]

Got it, there was a checkbox. Thank god I'm in the novabeast Discord lol

[compact kindle]

yea more dcs more help

can you acually invite me to the server

[void silo]

yeah!

[hazy quest]

How to make Separable and re-attachable limbs?
How should I go about it?

[static harbor]

does anybody know how to fix this as I've tried copy and create from model and as you can see it likes to be Reed Richards against responsibility

[void silo]

got another thing, trying to test adding add stuff (coin toss) and the first is my set up and the second is the one from the coin toss' creator, I'm missing the avatar file in the left menu to drop the module to which has stumped me

[tropic gyro]

are you talking about the thing that says ‘avatar’ where they drag the prefab onto it? if so, you would just drag it onto your avatars root, which in this case seems to be named novabeast

[void silo]

ahhh

let me try that

[peak ingot]

What do those green spheres and blue lines mean when Display Calibration Visuals is turned on

[void silo]

Another thing, not sure if it's something to worry about but I'm following the video tutorial by the creator and I've done everything the same but for some reason my coin has it's axis markers offset from the model and I'm unsure if this is something to worry about

found a new issue :)

This avatar apparently has no armature

So I have nowhere to attach this coin

[somber sequoia]

if it has no armature you have greater problems than attaching the coin

[void silo]

It's just named oddly I found it

lol

[uneven whale]

I have a question. Why can the avatar weight differ by several kilobytes when using vrcfury, even if there were no changes. I uploaded an avatar, it weighed 8.31 mb, I did not change anything, and when I uploaded the avatar again, it weighed 8.44 mb. Why does this happen?

[void silo]

coin offset was indeed an issue

[frigid hare]

I was wanting to make a model but I’m not sure exactly where to start, does anyone have any recommendations or tips on starting? 😁

[somber sequoia]

open blender - there's a cube there. Reshape it 🙂

[oblique rover]

Anyone know how i can remove the models hair?

ive looked through the BlendShapes

cant seem to find a full on hair setting

the rest is in koreon

[somber sequoia]

if there's no blendshape for this already, and it's not a separate object, bring it into Blender and delete the mesh

[junior void]

if there is no blendshape and the object is meged with the body, you cant remove the hair in unity unless you use an alpha mask

[oblique rover]

thats annoying

[uneven whale]

Help, please...

[somber sequoia]

you may want to ask in the fury discord, it's unfortunately a black box, not really easy to see inside at what it's doing

[void silo]

I can't get this coin to position right

[lilac musk]

As to what Kazin said, this is why using those systems is good for beginners, but it's recommended to learn to do it yourself eventually. As eventually they hold you back

[balmy barn]

if it has a hair root you can shrink it to 0 , very rare i run into those avatars (might be painted to skull tho so dont really work)

[supple needle]

How do I make my blender not stretch things out ? When I open it the view is always weird

I’m so confused lmao

[somber sequoia]

what did you do to cause that?

[untold ledge]

So, I have a problem with a contact on my avatar which basically toggles a button on it to allow someone to basically trigger an effect on it, part of that is when their hand is inside that contact it then does the following on the button’s animation layer:

• checks if the bool from that contact is true
• if it is true, then turn off the button and the contact and do the effect, once done it turns them back on (the turn off is in a different animation state than the effect).

My issue is, when I turn that contact off instantly while their hand is within it’s bounds, will it’s param remain true while the effect plays even after they move their hand out of the bounds of the off contact until it turns itself back on?

[somber sequoia]

What I do for these is enable my effect when the contact is entered, but don't exit that animation state until the contact is exited, making it so you have to release the button before you're able to activate it again

[oblique rover]

any easy ways to lower Avatar download size?

[zenith sparrow]

Lower Tex Res, get rid of unused blendshapes (I know there are packages that do this for you during upload), if you have several different things on your avatar you can always split it into several version of the avatar. That's all that comes to mind for me

[oblique rover]

how would i lower tex res?

[zenith sparrow]

Press on your Material > press on texture (takes you to where it is in your project tab) > press the texture > scroll down and set the res to like 1k or lower

You can also use "Thry's Avatar Performance Tools" which shows you everything at once

[zenith sparrow]

Have your mouse over viewport and then press "n" this should pop up a little menu on the right. From there go to "View" and set focal length to 50mm (the default)

[somber sequoia]

oh that is NOT what I would have thought to do, I never change that

[zenith sparrow]

I can't even think of a situation where that would happen without manually changing it lol

[somber sequoia]

yeah

[supple needle]

I’ve never even changed it lmao I just opened blender and it was like that

[supple needle]

Nothing

[void silo]

Need some help. Trying to use several assets from Liindy, with currently his coin set up and I'm also trying to set up his zippo & cig set. Unfortunately when it comes time to add in the effects, the tab on his tutorial video has a 'merge animator mode' while mine is 'merge controller mode' and it's outright incompatible due to the coin being in the same place. idk what to do

[somber sequoia]

it looks like you have a scene loaded so you at least did that much...

[night token]

Has anyone else been having an issue with vrchat SDK?

[hazy quest]

How to make Separable and re-attachable limbs?

[somber sequoia]

two sets of bones, one that moves the mesh, one that IK moves, rotation constraints from the IK ones to the mesh-moving ones, which when you remove the limb, all get disabled. Could enable a physbone in that case so it flops around limply

then the standard prop grabbing stuff that everyone does.

[hazy quest]

I'll have to add rotation constraint on every single bone?
When I added physbones, and enabled it using a toggle the limb got stuck in it's default T-pose, with normal physbone physics.

[somber sequoia]

yeah 'cause you can't really move the IK-driven bones around

[hazy quest]

Do you have a YT tut video you could share with me?

[somber sequoia]

And yes, if you put a physbone on an IK bone it'll turn floppy and you can't move it, this is why you do two sets.

[hazy quest]

I also want other players to be able to grab it too.

[somber sequoia]

I don't know of any tutorial

Also I haven't actually done this, this is just how I'd tackle the problem.

hmm amusingly if you do it with local-orientation rotation constraints, you could probably have another person grab it and still be able to move the hand

I'm going to have to try that

[hazy quest]

How would they grab it?
Using phybone?

[somber sequoia]

probably

[hazy quest]

Okay, thanks.
Let me know whenever you give it a try!

[inland seal]

How do I make so it wont go into Rest pose when Im deleting the armature, I want to keep all of its transforms as it is

[flat tulip]

E

[somber sequoia]

apply the armature modifier

[fiery crow]

armpit arms

[inland seal]

It already has one

oh wait

Ik what you mean

[flat tulip]

:3

[manic burrow]

what would i do if i had an avatar i made before i reset my pc but now cannot access the unity file. The avatar is already uploaded and all that i just cant access it

ive been trying to figure this out for a while

[junior void]

You cant download an avatar so you need the files. Redownload them from where you originally got (bought?) them?

[night ember]

if you dont have the files then you dont have the files

there is no way to get them back from vrchat cause not even they have them

[fringe belfry]

im loosing my sanity, can someone help TwT

[untold ledge]

I am guessing that multiple people can receive from the same contact sender at the same time, I guess for the vrcfury prop I am making I could optimize some of them out by unifying some of them that are duplicated for the left and right side of said system.

[distant nimbus]

everytime i upload this avatar, the shoes dont appear in game. i go back to unity and the material shader is missing. i set it back to poiyomi, and it does this.

[mild solar]

still having this issue. i tried fix avatar in CATS and that temporarily fixed the problem but it’s popping up again

i have zero idea how to fix it

[somber sequoia]

did you click the auto fix button?

[mild solar]

when i did the process ran for about an hour and a half before i finally gave up and tried to do it manually

[fluid quest]

Hey, just a little question, i'm trying do to phys bone, but they won't attach to my mesh, do someone know why ? ( i have done weight paint )

[somber sequoia]

ok, probably we'd need to see your avatar hierarchy then

[somber sequoia]

you mean you weight painted mesh to move with that specific bone?

[fluid quest]

yeah

[somber sequoia]

it should be moving then

[fluid quest]

they don't want to move it 🥲

[somber sequoia]

does that bone move the mesh in pose mode in blender?

[fluid quest]

yes

[mild solar]

is this okay?

[somber sequoia]

the avatar root is "merge" right?

[mild solar]

yes! the name i gave it after i attempted my first body/neck merge

i mean i assume it’s the avatar root, the fbx wasnt treated any different than any other edits/avis i make in terms of hierarchy or roots

and this is first time i’ve had this issue

[somber sequoia]

does it have the VRC Avatar Descriptor on it?

[mild solar]

yes

[somber sequoia]

then it's the root

[void silo]

Got most of the stuff, now trying to figure out a cyberarm and I'm not sure how I can make the normal arm vanish under the robot one? I'm still learning so lol

[mild solar]

everything ‘looks’ correct which is why i’m struggling so badly

[somber sequoia]

IMO remove it in Blender

[void silo]

I'm a noobie in Blender raaaaah

hm

[fiery crow]

hands

yeah unless u wanna swap between them, def just delete the mesh in edit mode

[void silo]

may test it out and see how it works just to know how far back I'd need to do that

[nova olive]

Umm, hello! Would anyone have any tips on why a premade avatar’s toggles and expressions wouldn’t be working? Sadly we haven’t exactly found any tutorials that say how to fix such issues.😅

[orchid abyss]

vrc says my avatar has 9 physbones, but I genuinely cannot find more than 6. is there a way to search for these hidden physbones?

nvm I found the little suckers, there was a bone with multiple components on it

[untold ledge]

Also another cause of issues is to double check the backfaces on shoes because if the red side is facing out and backface culling is on, then you may not see the shoes as well.

had that happen before where I bought shoes for my avatar and the back faces were not entirely correct when culling is on.

(which is the default for Quest avis)

[timber wharf]

@orchid abyss just for future, typre 't:script' in search window on top of hierarchy

to find any vrc components like physbones, contacts, constraints

[near ivy]

tell me how to fix it

[timber wharf]

are those just the only two errors you got?

[tiny grotto]

can anyone help me with this!! im so stuck on how to fix this T_T

first: my avatar the way it looks in unity/is meant to look. this is a picture of the vrc avatar testing chamber hologram.

second: how i see the pants/anyone else sees the pants in game

third: weird interaction that only happens in some worlds where that bone/part of the pants stretches out and just completely freaks out. its driving me nuts 😭

idk why this issue happened or what could be causing it or how to fix it!!!
the clipping is nonexistent in unity, non existent when i use the gesture manager but when i bring it in game it appears. anyone have any idea how to fix this?!?!?! any help is super super appreciated

edit// checked out the weight painting in blender as well and the upper layer of the pants is painted to 'spine' but only a portion of it (the front) seems to be affected like this?? no other bone is painted to the area :( WHAT DO 🥀

[spark walrus]

need some help connecting this head to the body. There was a video on it but it was in a different version of blender so the setup is completely different and i cant figure out how to attach the skeletons :(

[inland quarry]

how do i fix this

[night ember]

vrcfury has a discord

[inland quarry]

oh ok

[vocal prism]

why arnt the fishnets bound to the avatar?

[somber meadow]

is this asset made for this avatar?

[vocal prism]

it should be a rindo prefab

@somber meadow

[limpid cargo]

i tried an OK picture, sorry!
when rotating, the underwear is moving faster than the body.
the tool used is "Robust Weight Transfer".

[finite mango]

Um I don’t see were I got to accept the terms

[wide geode]

Does anyone know how to give this guy a custom walk animation?

[edgy karma]

DOES anyone know who does Pokemon Trainers tryna find N avi

[high rapids]

So this may be a noob question but what is the most effective way to find clothes made for my particular base model on booth?

like what do I type in the search?

[brave fiber]

any idea why im getting this error?

it wont let me turn my model into Humanoid

[left gull]

suggest looking in #1138520828556890214 or making a post there

[left gull]

search the characters name or try sites like boothplorer (https://boothplorer.com/) find the base there and look through the items section at the bottom for assets made to work with said base

[high rapids]

Thanks I'll take a look. I see these things of people selling face tracking setups for vrchat. Do people sell face-tracking setup for warudo for vTubing?

[left gull]

perhaps on booth but very unlikely for anything on boothplorer unless its part of the base model's setup package

though i also dont know what warudo's requirements are for face-tracking stuff there may be a chance that alot of base models can slightly support it, might just take a bit of work to properly look good/setup

[high rapids]

I hand-made it in blender recently but I don't know if I did a good job lol

[hearty vale]

Help 😭

https://liindy.gumroad.com/l/Grenades

This grenade asset isn’t syncing for other people

When my friend added it, it synced on throw and I literally added everything the exact same and it desyncs and explodes at world spawn the second i let go

Dms open I don’t have notifications on here

[hearty vale]

From my pov it’s good though

[ornate stump]

Might be because of vrcfury parameter compressor. So removing that and test again.

[high rapids]

I'm trying to find cyberpunk or scifi style outfits for the 彼方 (Kanata) base avatar but I can't find anything T_T

[hearty vale]

I have the same compressions on as my friend and his throwing is synced, mine isn’t

[ornate stump]

Try looking in boothplorer.com

[hearty vale]

Literally we went down the list and I’m completely lost on why it’s doing this

[high rapids]

I tried, there's not much for Kanata when it comes to what I'm looking for

[hearty vale]

Kitbash

[ornate stump]

Then it might be better to contact the author first.

[hearty vale]

Real 😔

[ornate stump]

Boothplorer categorized item that's belong to an avatar. If it doesn't exist then it doesn't exist. You might have to mix item from others avatar instead which is more complicated.

[vocal prism]

try putting it on the part with the inspect menu and switch to it

[vocal prism]

like this

[ornate stump]

The recent sdk doesn't have agree checkbox.

[near ivy]

There are many of them that are the same

[ornate stump]

Missing script means the avatar is using a script that doesn't exist in your project.

[near ivy]

and how to understand which script is missing

[ornate stump]

Read the description in the page where you got your avatar from.

[near ivy]

This is it?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[near ivy]

I'm going to try downloading it.

[near ivy]

and which of these is exactly to download?

[ornate stump]

unitypackage file.

[ornate stump]

Also poiyomi has vcc repository so you better read the install instruction in the front page.

[near ivy]

if it's not difficult for you, you can give me links to these scripts, otherwise I can't find them.

[ornate stump]

Google would yield first result. You usually just have to read instruction at the front page.

[hazy quest]

how to make Grabbable arms?

[near ivy]

I opened the VRFCT instructions, but it's about using it, not the script.

[ornate stump]

You need Jerry's Template

[near ivy]

I downloaded it, but the avatar still won't load.

[ornate stump]

What about VRCFury?

[ornate stump]

Also that you're just "adding repository" you haven't imported to your project.

[junior void]

"avatar wont load" sounds like it is assumed that the right scene will open itself in the project

also, good morning i didnt read the context lol

[near ivy]

should I just add to the project now?

[ornate stump]

No. That's only "listing the shop" but you didn't get item from the shop. So in Manage Project button and add package.

[near ivy]

Like this?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[near ivy]

is the download taking a very long time is it normal?

[ornate stump]

If your PC is underpowered then yes.

[violet latch]

Hi! I'm very new to unity and creating avatars. Now, my question isn't really about creating one, but modifying an existing one. I'm trying to create a toggle for a blendshape in an avatar I have using Modular Avatar. However, I really don't know how to do that. I've already made toggles for clothing before, but not for a blendshape. How can I do this? Any help would be appreciated!

[junior void]

This is a question specifically to modular avatar. Did you not find it in their documentation?

[violet latch]

I've read the advanced toggles documentation, but I found it confusing and they aren't really explaining how to do what I want to do

[junior void]

Have you tried using the shape changer component?

[violet latch]

yes, but can I create a toggle for the shape changer?

for example, let's say I want to change my character's breast size, but there's no toggle for that, however, there is a blendshape for changing the breast size. Can I use shape changer to do that?

[junior void]

That I dont know. Generally I personally feel like MA is rather unintuitive. I have a way easier time understanding VRCFury, which has exactly everything that MA has and more. So I get why you're confused. With VRCF I could give you more guidance. I had to deal with MA only for a friend and I hated every second of it

[near ivy]

Thank you my avatar

[violet latch]

I have VRCFury installed as well

[junior void]

Then you can just add a VRCFury Toggle Component and select Blendshape under the options as well as "use as radial" (or similar dont recall the text 100% rn), select the shape and be done

like this

You may also want to ass "saved between worlds" so it doesnt reset to default (in this case 0)

[violet latch]

how do I enter that menu?

[junior void]

The "action" determines what is done on activation. the "options" are literally options of behavior

Once you have that, you will get a blendshape slot to pick what shape to change

[violet latch]

ahhhhh I see

wow, this is actually way more intuitive and simple than with MA

lol

[junior void]

Yea, all you need is to know you can click options button and the actions one and youre good

Everything is in those two menus and it does not add extra objects like MA does

[violet latch]

and how do I add it to the expressions menu?

the toggle

[junior void]

You see at the very top, the menu path?

[violet latch]

ahhh

[junior void]

You just add the path in there

[violet latch]

and I just type expressions?

[junior void]

If the menu exists already, it will merge into it. If it doesnt, it will create it where specified

No, expressions is the root

So you type only the name

If you want it to be in expressions-> sliders-> "booba" you do "Sliders/Booba"

[violet latch]

and if I want it on a submenu of the expressions menu?

[junior void]

this

Never add "expressions" because then it will go into "expressions -> expressions"

Other than that its like a pc path

[violet latch]

what I mean is, adding the toggle to an existing submenu, like expressions/body options/boobs

[junior void]

Just define the path and make sure you write it exactly like the existing one

[junior void]

i covered that

[violet latch]

ahhhh

okay okay

sorry

and thank you

you saved me

[junior void]

All good, it's a lot at once :P

[ashen pelican]

how do you reset to t-pose? my avatar is stuck in the preview pose

[junior void]

i suggest pumpkins avatar tools

it has a pose editor

[ashen pelican]

ty

Does anyone have any experience with shadermotion? I can't figure out how to make my recorded model inside my main avatar's hierarchy toggleable. It doesn't show up in the property list in the animation tab

Basically i'm trying to make my 2nd model toggleable with an animation

[ornate stump]

What actually is shadermotion?

[ashen pelican]

It allows you to make a recording of your avatar's movements and play it back like motion capture

[fiery crow]

pretend that embed worked

[ashen pelican]

Actually I think it's because the animator is prioritizing the second avatar, Is there a way to select which avatar i'm trying to make an animation for? My 2nd avatar doesn't even have a controller attached

[ornate stump]

Is the shadermotion an existing prefab or you're trying to invent a new thing?

[ashen pelican]

it's a prefab, i think it's the same thing that like lolathon uses to make his whacky gimics

[naive brook]

huh

[gusty meteor]

Hey ! 👋
Quick question : how do I reorder bones without unpacking the prefab in unity ?
Should I rename my bones in blender or is there an easy way of doing that ?

[balmy barn]

never unpack, do it in blender , if its about that error you get from wrong order in sdk, just name the bones Z_namehere they will be last (twist bone get that easy)

long as its not unpacked you can just overwrite any changes you do in blender to unity

[gusty meteor]

Yeah I'm asking because of this

[fringe belfry]

anyone knows why i get this error after trying to upload?, cuz the avi had a broken script and i was told to just delete it TwT

[balmy barn]

where is this av even from

[fringe belfry]

payhip

or r u asking them

[balmy barn]

how i fix that order whenever it complains , twist get the Z_ treatment

[gusty meteor]

Okay I'll try that

[balmy barn]

read the requirements on their page ? that script erroring is a very ancient thing

[gusty meteor]

Oh should I rename the vertex groups too then ? Shouldn't the vertex group's name be the exact bone name ?

[balmy barn]

rename bone does it for you

[gusty meteor]

Oh okay great

[fringe belfry]

i read the reqs TwT people on the reviews also talked about it but they just said to delete the missing script and it should be good to upload, but ig ill take a second look just in case

[balmy barn]

thats the cause for sure

[fringe belfry]

oh yea i got that cuz the first problem i had was having a missing script and i couldnt find it

ig ill re-import the avi

[gusty meteor]

Thanks that was an easy fix, works perfectly

[somber sequoia]

I like to prefix my "helper bones" with a ~

[dire heart]

how to animate smth spinning?? I did it before but for some reason I cant figure out wtf im doing wrong

[near ivy]

It weighs so much and that's it

[ornate stump]

It's pretty much the same as animating any object on avatar.

[near ivy]

my avatar doesn't load and it doesn't give me any errors. What should I do?

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot entire unity screen?

[ornate stump]

You're in prefab editing mode which can't build your avatar.

[near ivy]

and how to get out of it?

[ornate stump]

The "Scenes" button at the top of scene panel.

[near ivy]

and how to move the avatar from there

[ornate stump]

From where?

[ornate stump]

You drag the avatar prefab file into the scene.

[near ivy]

Thx

it has started to be created but it cannot

@ornate stump

[ornate stump]

The first red error is the problem.

[near ivy]

What is there to choose?

[ornate stump]

Do you even know what is missing?

[near ivy]

тщ

no

[ornate stump]

Go to read instruction in the page you got your avatar from.

[near ivy]

they write in the comments that there is not enough scene

[ornate stump]

Have you install whatever it said?

[near ivy]

yes

[ornate stump]

How did you install them?

[near ivy]

Or maybe it's because I downloaded too much?

[ornate stump]

Never been the case.

[ornate stump]

Then you could just simply delete that missing script component in your avatar.

[near ivy]

Is Avatar package a script?

[ornate stump]

missing script component in your avatar

[near ivy]

That's too bad.

[ornate stump]

Does that mean something?

[near ivy]

It's too bad that I can't load the avatar.

[ornate stump]

I've told you the solution.

[near ivy]

I don't understand what script is missing.

[near ivy]

should I just delete it?

[ornate stump]

Yes

[balmy barn]

actualy page not the page you got it from https://cupkake.store/products/darling?ref=jinxxy

pretty obvious what page they used

pointless wasting time helping one that just download paid models

[ornate stump]

Let's hear the statements from them.

[balmy barn]

did vrchat ever use or test this cause the axies on is ontop of eachother and was hell to adjust

documentation also lacking how to actually set those bones up

up/toward/cross/rotation?

[frigid glade]

So, I'm working on a toggle gesture for an avatar. This set up is exactly the same as some of my other avatars and they work perfectly however when I use the toggle the gesture gets stuck after it's turned off. Can anyone help??

[strong smelt]

i am scared I messed up

It failed to build

[somber sequoia]

is that top one the first error?

(if not, post the first 2-3)

[hazy quest]

how to Set bool state using contacts?
First contact recived, Bool = True.
2nd contact recieved, Bool = False.

Right now the bool stays true as long as there's contact.

[hazy quest]

reply or @ me.

[somber sequoia]

You need two variables, one that says "is contacted" and the other that's the value which gets toggled. First one toggles the second using VRC Avatar Parameter Driver

[hazy quest]

Okay, I'll look into it.
Thanks again.

[wild hare]

does anyone know how to do the blinding orb like thing that looks like a ui and supports quest and pc

I am trying to make a cool visual effect to look like a cool small little place and it have stars and stuff and the world not be seen in it basically it is weird and I am not sure how to do it but itll form off my avatar (as when enabled it stays in the location enabled in)

[somber sequoia]

not sure which effect you mean, but maybe a screen space shader? that wouldn't work on quest though

otherwise you could hide and show a mesh with some sort of effect on it

[wild hare]

might work ik I was trying to do one of those blinders with the special effects you see on dance avatars because I seen one where it make a small little area to mimic a new world little place thing

[somber sequoia]

IMO if someone else's avatar got me with a blinder I'd block them immediately.

[wild hare]

also is there anything to help with size sliders as I have tails in my avatar and trying to make it size easily

I used a plugin before that was like easy toggles and siders for size color and other stuff just dont remember it

[true flower]

Help, please! I need the right words to search for: I'm trying to add a flare gun to my avatar, and everything is going well so far. I've reached a point where I need to append the gun 's parameters and menu entries to the avatar's parameters and menu entries. I know there's a way to do that without copying each one by hand; I did it before, but that was months ago and I remember nothing of the process. Can anyone think of good words to use to look this up? Or is copying them-- by hand-- entry by entry-- my best choice?

[somber sequoia]

Where are those parameters now? Probably you want VRLabs' avatars 3.0 manager

[true flower]

There's Avatar parameters, and the Flare Gun's parameters (and respective menu files, too). The instructions assume there's no Param or Menu already installed, which is, of course, incorrect

Avatar Manager sounds familiar, but I rarely bother with it... I should be able to look up those instructions, though

[mild solar]

how do i adjust the eye tracking limits for ft? it looks like the eye movements are very extreme and easily roll back into the head

[true flower]

Avatar 3.0 Manager was what I was looking for! Thank you!

[somber sequoia]

excellent

[late cairn]

can anyone help me with a rig? im having alot of problems, i would prefer in vc so its easier

this is whats going on, i rly need help

[void silo]

Heya! Looking for some help again, day 2 of avi creation haha. I'm adding a cybernetic arm to my avi and need some help with the instructions. Since I'm learning and Google isn't helpful wanted to swing by here. I'll copy and paste the actual instructions for convenience of the arm I got:

'Go to your avatar's body material > find 'opaque' > drop down and change to 'cutout' or 'transparent' > find the alpha slot

Poi - Alpha slot will be underneath your body's normal texture

Lil Toon - Alpha slot will be a lil bit further under your body's main texture, labelled 'Alpha'

Find any of the Opacity/Alpha Masks that i have provided in the Unity Package and drag that into your 'alpha' slot'

I don't know where I need to look for the body materials to start with if anyone can help me lol

[somber sequoia]

Which part are you stuck on?

oh I was scrolled, sorry.

[void silo]

It happens lol

[somber sequoia]

So find your body object, Click that, and materials will be listed in the inspector.

[somber sequoia]

Your shoulders (listed as "clavicle") should be a direct child of either Chest or Upper Chest, whichever is higher. You can't fix this in Unity if it's wrong.

[void silo]

I'm kinda stupid so I'm gonna post screenies and go step by step

this is the right body section (to the right)?

[somber sequoia]

see that dropdown that says "Transparent"? - that's correct already.

If you need to change the material you'll have to click "unlock shader" there first.

[void silo]

ahhhh

let me test that real quick and get back to ya

I don't wanna mess up lol

[somber sequoia]

make backups

[void silo]

Oh I do

I'm just on a time crunch atm

work day lol

okay found the alpha channel

Going to test the included textures for it and see what it does

[late cairn]

awh so what do you reccomend i do? this was already rigged

[somber sequoia]

bring it into Blender and rework the armature if necessary

[void silo]

Well I realized I do not know how to bring in the alpha sheet into VRC CC

Or maybe I am looking at the wrong one

Is it the Color & Alpha or should I enable the Alpha Map?

[late cairn]

im not familliar with blender 🙁

[somber sequoia]

depends on what you have, is it an alpha mask texture or is the alpha from your base color?

[somber sequoia]

well if this is actually wrong, you can't fix it in Unity, so....

[void silo]

Alpha mask

[somber sequoia]

put it in the "alpha map" slot then

[void silo]

I don't know how admittedly

It doesn't drag and drop

[somber sequoia]

is that the windows file thingy?

put the file into your unity project first.

[void silo]

yeah it's the files with the masks

ah

where would I put the file in my project?

[somber sequoia]

FYI, I don't do 1-on-1 help in DMs for free

[somber sequoia]

wherever you want

[mild solar]

i notice when i look up i don’t have to look up that much for the eyes to roll back into the head. the ft in general works, it’s just the eye movements are a bit too extreme

if anyone has any advice or tips i appreciate it

[late cairn]

how much do you charge?

[void silo]

just anywhere in the assets bar at the bottom then?

[somber sequoia]

if you're wanting to commission someone, try at the VRC Traders discord, link is in #1204490664637890580

[void silo]

hm

[somber sequoia]

wherever you want, project file management is up to you

[late cairn]

i just need the hiarchy fixed thats all, is it worth i make a commision for that?

[void silo]

Put it in the Alpha Map slot, no change

It's meant to make the right arm invisible

[somber sequoia]

If you can't do it yourself and need someone else to, then yeah, that's generally how you get someone to do work for you.

[somber sequoia]

Which avatar base is this?

[void silo]

opened everything up in case it helps

[late cairn]

its a rig i got online from kyliestylishworkshop, its a spider man rig and i edited the hell out of it before realising its not working at all

[somber sequoia]

ahh

[late cairn]

it looks really weird but ive made another avatar based of this guys model and it had zero issues, but the bones look really weird on this one

[somber sequoia]

without knowing what the alpha mask file you have is intended to do, I'd say ask the vendor.
I'd not do it this way, I'd remove the arm in Blender, no need to have extra mesh there if it'll never be rendered.

[void silo]

I'm in their server to ask for help yeah, but I am also piss poor with experience in Blender and don't want to have to risk breaking the model with file reformatting

Their server seems very dead unfortunately

[late cairn]

its REALLY weird

[celest jasper]

okay guys, I am BEGINNER BEGINNER at making anything in blender, let alone an avatar. so please be patient with me if I mess something up or don't understand. All of my zyx plaines are really weird and I don't understand what's going on. Like, I'll go to move something on the y axis and it will move up. AND if I choose to move something, it will move or size everthing. sorry if this is a dumb question 😭

[hot mica]

Is there anyone who is experienced with world drops with parent constraints? I am losing my mind

[somber sequoia]

yeah, lots of bones you don't need for vrchat

[late cairn]

but cant i resolve this without having to do everything in blender?

[somber sequoia]

go into object mode, and look in the "item" box of the 'n' popup - I bet you have rotation not zero. Ctrl+a and apply transforms, that should fix it.

[somber sequoia]

You can't properly edit bone order or other things about the armature in unity so you'll need to do it in something like Blender.

[cyan light]

Does anyone know how i can make the tail stop buckling into itself when I'm standing and instead sit like how i want it to with the arrow?

[celest jasper]

I'm in object mode, where should the item box be?

[somber sequoia]

in the popup that comes up on the side when you hit 'n'

usually it's the top tab

[celest jasper]

got it

Do I set all of the xyz to 0?

[somber sequoia]

do you want to change the rotation, or make where it currently is be the default?

changing that as it is will rotate the object

applying the existing rotation makes the object's current rotation be the default

(similar for location and scale)

for an avatar you generally (but not always) want all of those to be 0, so apply all transforms.

[celest jasper]

how do I apply all transforms?

[somber sequoia]

I said here: #avatar-help message

[celest jasper]

Oh sorry

[vocal prism]

Anyone have any good free programs i can use to edit a texture rq, im js trying to edit rindo to have black eyebrows and nails, nothing crazy

[somber sequoia]

gimp? krita?

blender?

[vocal prism]

which one would you recommend?

out of those 3

[celest jasper]

OH IT WORKED!! thank youu 😭

You angel oh my gos

[somber sequoia]

I use gimp for lots of 2D work but Substance for 3D. I'd suggest trying things to figure out what you like.

[wet pier]

is there any reason the hair is translucent? the textures for everything else are normal

[cyan light]

Does anyone know how i can make the tail stop buckling into itself when I'm standing and instead sit like how i want it to with the arrow?

[vocal prism]

will do, i see my friend on krita a lot so i might try that first

[somber sequoia]

I'd use angle limiters on the physbone component.

[cyan light]

thank you

I shall look into it

[wet pier]

is there any known fix for this?

[cyan light]

I don't see anything wrong with it?

[wet pier]

the hairs translucent for the most part

the opacity is different

[cyan light]

Its pretty opaque

what does it look like in game?

[somber sequoia]

Material settings for sure.

[wet pier]

found the issue

it was set to standard instead of toon standard

[mild solar]

small bump 🐾

idk if this possibly affected it, but the avi i’m noticing this issue with was a merge i did, merged head into the body armature, not sure if that possibly affected the eyes or the bones

[somber sequoia]

there are no limiters in VRChat or Unity

[mild solar]

is there a reason why the eye tracking would go so extreme? everything with ft works even the eyes it’s just when i look up not too much i notice there’s only white in the eyes

it just seems more jarring than the face tracking i’m used to

when i use eye blendshapes they don’t go that extreme

[mild solar]

in unity when i test it

[somber sequoia]

My only experience is with the Babble software which has limiters built in

[mild solar]

there’s two sets of eye bones that affect the eyes, Eye_L/Eye_R and LeftEye/RightEye

could possibly switching the names so ft uses the other bones work?

[somber sequoia]

without knowing what those are in your specific armature, I couldn't take a guess really

[mild solar]

no worries i appreciate the responses, i’ll try fiddling around with it more. there might be something i’m missing, in gesture manager is there a way to test eye tracking without needing to go in game?

i want to try and troubleshoot/fix while i’m at work

[somber sequoia]

Lyuma's emulator has a way to test OSC stuff, but I haven't tried it yet

[mild solar]

thanks! i’ll look into it 🙂‍↕️

[tardy bronze]

hello! I've been working on trying to create my first avatar in blender and I'm wondering about with the shape keys for the zinpia egirl base, how can I make it so my clothes will resize with the shape key that will, for example, resize the bust without clipping through the clothes? I tried to see about the surface deform modifier as well as the mesh data transfer add on but nothing seems to be working unless I am missing a step 🥲 or is it something that might need to be done in unity instead of blender?

[somber sequoia]

Any tools you'll find will get you sorta close, usually you'll need to at least look at each shape key, and probably do some manually reshaping.

[icy badger]

Can anyone help me with riging and weightpainting in blender ?

[tardy bronze]

It didn’t seem like anything I was doing was making any difference so I feel like I was doing something wrong, for example when I was doing the surface deform modifier it was saying the target has edges with more than two polygons so I was trying to troubleshoot for that but it still isn’t working so I’m not sure what I’m messing up at

[somber sequoia]

#avatar-rigging but yes, just ask your questions, no need to ask to ask.

[icy badger]

I was wondering if someone could call and walk me through it

[pseudo mica]

I need help. Im just trying to upload an avatar from vrmodel website, i took it as it is (its for the Quest)

[cyan light]

click review any alerts and show us

[pseudo mica]

I closed it cause I got frustrated, I remember having this issue, there was a lot of alerts just like this one, but I fixed it by enabling VCFury, but this one wont get fixed

[limpid cargo]

using Blender, shoulder bone and neck bone,
“Parent” at the chest bone.

[heavy zephyr]

Anything from that website has been ripped, do not use it.

[civic cliff]

if you're using VRCFT and not the little vtuber viseme thing that vrchat released, then the eyes are controlled by blendshapes and not bones i believe. im not very well versed in this either but i just wanted to let you know in case that affects the way you're troubleshooting

[spark walrus]

PLEASE HELP i cant get the transparent blendshapes to export as transparent when i put it into unity 😭 😭 🙏 💔

ive been trying to figure th is out for 3 days :'''((((

[austere bay]

what do you mean "transparent blendshapes"? do you mean the textures?

[somber sequoia]

whats a "transparent blendshape"

[spark walrus]

the blendshapes are supposed to be transparent like

the eyebrows and the chunky 7+++++++++++

sorry bird

[somber sequoia]

blendshapes are just vertex movements, they have nothing to do with transparency

[spark walrus]

oh idk wtf im doing :(

its the umekov2 head

[somber sequoia]

if you don't have things transparent but should, that's a problem with your material.

[austere bay]

explain what you're trying to do as simply as possible :)

[spark walrus]

ok so

in blender i changed the shader to make the chunky part on the eyelashes kind of transparent like u see there

um

https://saikura.com/b/umeko

so this is what the head is supposed to look like

but when i put it into unity its still chunky

let me show you what the eyelashes look like when the pink part isnt transparent

its also not applying textures correctly to hit

to it

[somber sequoia]

yeah blender material settings won't transfer to Unity, you'll need to set that up there

[spark walrus]

ok im loading up unity

[austere bay]

I'll make a video explaining how to set up the material in unity for you :) do you have poiyomi?

[spark walrus]

yes i do!! omg thank yoiu

just struggling with stuff thats supposed to be either transparent or sheer coming up as solid objects 😭

this is what it looks like in unityy

[somber sequoia]

yeah looks like you just have the standard material settings, and for the pink stuff, some missing textures or maybe missing shader.

[austere bay]

i hope this helped, im a little slow today so sorry if i didn't explain it great, just lmk and I'll make another video explaining it a bit differently :)

[low steeple]

What could be causing the avatar's eyes to go askew on upload?

[spark walrus]

omg thank you this worked yess

i did get this error though, how do i fix it?

[hoary sun]

does anyone know how to make your clothing grabbable by yourself and other players in specific parts Via blendshapes

[austere bay]

not sure, is there anything else in the console?

[austere bay]

is it stopping you from uploading? if so lmk, otherwise I'd just ignore it

[spark walrus]

havent tried it yet but if it does ill let you know :) trying to figure out how to apply these masks over the eyes

[somber sequoia]

possibly bone roll is not 0, or bones are not perfectly vertical?

[limpid cargo]

https://youtu.be/AEJ8s68FROo?si=3bRNaU9gO6Iyb5sC

[hoary sun]

thank you

[limpid cargo]

i love do this, it’s so fun 😄

[low steeple]

Figured out, unity needed to be restarted. Must be a bug somewhere.

[somber sequoia]

argh 🙂

[strong smelt]

That is is as I restarted after this

[somber sequoia]

when I said "first" I meant literally the first ones in the console, at the top. Everything past the first few might simply be side-effects of the actual root cause, and thus not as relevant.

[void silo]

Having trouble with GoGoLoco. I need to include Fly and Freeze in my radial menu like this but when I put all three prefabs into unity editor they're separate.

[somber meadow]

when you mean prefabs, are you referring to vrcfury or modular avatar

if that's the case, you only need the beyond prefab on the avatar, and that's it

beyond includes everything "all" does

[void silo]

VRCFury

ah

[distant nimbus]

If i edit blendshapes of an avatar (i want to edit how the face looks), how do i make them stay the way i put them after i upload to vrc?

[small void]

in blender it looks normal but in unity one arm is darker for some reason

[arctic ginkgo]

may be vertex colors?

[small void]

they both have the same color material and stuff

[hollow field]

the normals may be flipped

select the arm on blender with edit mode and press Shift N

[small void]

i recalculated them both inside and outside but its still darker

[worldly whale]

hey yall, every time i swap a material on this avi it swaps back to the orignal after like 3 seconds

any reason why?

[vestal mountain]

Hey could someone give me a walk through on how to add pre made animations to a tail. the animations are made for the tail but since I attached it to my avi in blender the animations, and controller are gone.

[halcyon kayak]

if you attached the animations to the FBX, you can import the FBX into unity, click the animation and duplicate it to make a version into your main asset folder which you can throw onto your model

hope i understood your issue correctly

ctrl+d to duplicate also

[vestal mountain]

Too many words for my small brain ;-;

[cyan onyx]

I just recently started playing with face and eye-tracking however I am running into an issue with eye tracking.

The eye tracking works fine, however on my personal avatars right eye moves well beyond the limits that are set for it from left to right, and left to right on my Left eye just doesn't work period.

What I have looked at so far is the blender file, which shows everything is fine... and in unity the muscle mapping shows everything working right as well, I have also done a recalibration on the headset eye tracking.

[distant nimbus]

bump

[halcyon kayak]

you edited the blendshapes in Unity? or another program

[distant nimbus]

unity

[halcyon kayak]

hmm sry i know about blendshapes in Blender but i've never edited in unity

[distant nimbus]

blaaa its alright

[halcyon kayak]

you're using VRC Avatar Descriptor > LipSync > Viseme Blend Shape ?

[distant nimbus]

uhh no, i didnt know that i needed to use a package to save it

[halcyon kayak]

there's a few options

this is the way i know how to use them at least

[distant nimbus]

well i mean i can use the sliders to change what i want, i just want it to STAY where i slide them

[halcyon kayak]

which sliders are you using o-o

screenshot?

[halcyon kayak]

i believe you need an animation for each one of those

[somber sequoia]

if you set one of those, it'll stay unless an animation overrides it.

[halcyon kayak]

while mine are 2D Visemes, the same concept applies, except i guess with blend trees instead of these solid transitions

each one of these V0 V1 V2 etc is another mouth shape

[distant nimbus]

i can right click on the blendshape slider and "apply to prefab," will that do anything?

[somber sequoia]

not really anything useful here, it'll make that set as default for when you drag a new avatar prefab into the scene.

[halcyon kayak]

each animation just turns on one of those mouth shapes with all the others off

[distant nimbus]

well.. ill pop her in gesture manager and see if her face stays the same.. if not, i just have to make an animation with all of my edits?? and then i have to make that a toggle? or how would i apply that animation

[halcyon kayak]

in your animator controller, you'd make a new layer (call it "lipsync" or something) and then make a blendtree with each animation (one per syllable)

i haven't done blendtrees for mouth shapes specifically

there MAY be an easier way but idk it currently

but basically unity needs some way of understanding to turn each syllable ON when it hears that sound in your mic

[distant nimbus]

ugh... thats a lot... i will do my ABSOLUTE best

[strong smelt]

Okay Gonna do then when I home from work, thanks for the help

[cinder frost]

Having a weird hand issue where two fingers just decide to bend the wrong direction

They bend the right way in the humanoid rig muscle settings and this appears to be entirely a VRC solving issue, how do I fix it?

[hollow field]

How can i be able to modify the animations in the animator controller?

I'm trying to change them but it doesn't seem to let me

Oh nvm, was at the wrong menu

I made an idle animation that changes the texture offset of my main texture, but it's not showing up in game

It shows up on the avatar preview but doesn't actually change the offset in game

This is how I did it

[somber sequoia]

of course, swap the animations in the animation layer that does the gestures

[arctic ginkgo]

if you are missing your middle finger bone then they are bending the right way

[cinder frost]

Which I'm not

[arctic ginkgo]

what finger is missing then?

[cinder frost]

Little

[arctic ginkgo]

hmm

it may just be the default animation

or your default pose

in the rig configure

[tribal hatch]

Are there any good guides on "rigging" 2d eyes? That is, making it so that texture swaps/UV shifting can be used for eye look? I get the impression that one would need to somehow measure the rotation of "weightless" eye bones and then use those rotations to trigger animations, but I'm not sure how to go about setting up such a measurement system.

[arctic ginkgo]

yes exactly, I do this by adding an empty a set distance in front of the eye bone (say, 0.1 meters) and parented to it, then I have two proximity contacts with a radius twice that distance (0.2 m), as well as a contact sender of the same size.

These are aligned so that at rest, one receiver aligns on the X axis and one on the Y with the sender, while on the opposite axis, they are offset by 1/2 the radius (or the distance the empty is from the eye bone/ 0.1m).

These should all be parented to an empty which is parented to the head and has the headchop component with itself as a target and all weights set to 1 (this is so it doesn't cause weird issues for the local player due to being scaled to 0).

Then add a VRC position constraint to both receivers, and uncheck "freeze axes" for the two axes that each contact is not offset by respectively (so the one offset on the X axes unlocks Y and Z, while the Y offset one unlocks X and Z). Then just activate the constraints.

This should give you two values from 0-1 that give the 2D projected X and Y positions of the eye (i usually just do 1 eye since they almost always move together), where 0.5, 0.5 is the middle (which one is up/down and left/right depends on the direction you offset the contacts in, but 0 is away from the center and 1 is towards the center).

Then you can animate however you'd like; I prefer to use a 2D blendtree or a Direct Blendtree with 2 1D blendtrees.

If you are animating the texture offset value, make sure that all values not being animated are set to 0, and that you have one animation that is animating the tiling at all time (this can be separate animations controlling the tiling, or one set of animations, like the left/right animations)

The values for any given property will add on a DBT, which is why I suggest you do this, otherwise your tiling will be set to 2 (or added to by 2 if you have other animations affecting it), and if the unaffected offset axes are not set to 0 (like the Y axis for the X axis animations) they will be added to the total as well. Say the X axis animations have the Y axis set to 0.5, now instead of moving the Y axis between 0-1, it'll move between 0.5-1.5)

[tribal hatch]

Woah, this is fantastic information. Thank you so much!

[soft sapphire]

How do i fix this, the view is where it should be on the head but its still doing this and idk how to fix the tail

[night ember]

Dont have a camera on the avatar

[soft sapphire]

Do i face the camera at the avatar

[night ember]

Dont have one on it to begin with

You dont need a camera

[soft sapphire]

How do i turn it of

[night ember]

You shouldnt have a camera on it in unity at all

[soft sapphire]

I fixed it now my screen is black

[ornate stump]

What screen you said?

[soft sapphire]

Vrchat

Its with the avi only

[ornate stump]

Show your avatar object hierachy in unity.

[soft sapphire]

How do i do that?

[ornate stump]

Screenshot your avatar object hierachy in unity.

[soft sapphire]

this is what i have

[ornate stump]

You haven't removed camera object inside of your avatar.

[soft sapphire]

How do i remove it

[ornate stump]

Select and delete.

Don't you ever ponder a bit how to do something? That would also save my time to tell you such a trivial thing.

[soft sapphire]

I just started using unity not even a day ago

[ornate stump]

It's kinda universal that to delete something is to select it and hit Delete key.

[soft sapphire]

I deleted any camera there was and im still having the same issue

[ornate stump]

Screenshot unity again.

[ornate stump]

You still have a "Camera" in your avatar.

And light should be remove.

[urban current]

how would i patch a hole in a jacket on an avatar, like the texture is missing a place

[ornate stump]

Screenshot what you mean.

[halcyon kayak]

your view position may be inside your avatar's head, meaning it's pitch black because all you can see is mesh

[soft sapphire]

I fixed it!

[halcyon kayak]

oh nice :D was my theory correct or was it something else

[ornate stump]

If it does that then they have an even bigger issue.

[halcyon kayak]

i don't think so, they'd just have to add Head Chop no?

also i know it's a different point entirely, but i actually have a Main Camera object in my unity project for my avi because adding a third person camera doesn't seem to work without it

[ornate stump]

Everything attached to head bone will be scaled down to zero in first person view so that doesn't obstruct player view. If it doesn't do that, that mean it doesn't recognize head bone.

[halcyon kayak]

i mean, if this person didn't even know about deleting a camera object, i don't know if they'd know about using headchop in the first place, i assumed that they just weren't using it 😅

but it sounds like it was fixed so it's fine :D

[halcyon kayak]

while i have you here, since you seem to know about it:
i have a generic rig which i'd like to apply a head-chop-like property to. my understanding is the proper component doesn't work with generic rigs, but i was hoping there would be a way to recreate the same effect on a generic rig. any ideas?

[ornate stump]

I have never tested head chop in generic rig so I don't have an anwser to that.

[halcyon kayak]

all good, thanks anyways :D

most documentation covers humanoid models

i tried a fix i saw wherein i added an extra armature which wasn't weight painted to anything, then importing the fbx as humanoid... but i've already got custom animations and i was afraid to break everything X_X

it stinks bc i also have no IK "head" tracking

i'm sure there's a fix somehow, i'm just not that deep into Unity yet :P

[frail badger]

So I have some alt heads on a model i want to be able to swap between. How would I handle visemes on both? Do I need to join the heads as 1 mesh and find another way to hide one over the other?

[fiery crow]

yeah u can do it that way and use a blendshape to hide it, could even have 2nd head's eyes bones be used with rotation constraints as well

kinda multiple ways to go about it

[frail badger]

I'm not worried about eye rotation, only viseme expressions

[fiery crow]

then yeah u can use a blendshape, UV discard, probably bone scaling even

whatever u prefer

[frail badger]

o7 ty

[balmy barn]

detect your current viseme , tell other to do it

[fiery crow]

theres also some components to help with visemes, like vrcfury's but i think it delays iirc

but base default viseme parameters are kinna choppy when used alone, not that ik from first hand experience. just what ive heard around

[native path]

you might have better luck on BOOTHPLORER after I release 2.0 since currently you can only search by an item's name, not it's tags or other properties.

in the meantime a better way is to add the avatar's id (6813995) your search query on booth and using Japanese tags for cyberpunk/sci-fi in the tags field.

[oblique rover]

What are the differences between these two files? what is PSD and QuadFBX?

[fiery crow]

photoshop file format of textures and the mesh is in quads instead of triangulated i assume

[oblique rover]

should i jsut stick with the normal 1.3 if i want to upload it to quest?

[fiery crow]

either will work with quest

quads is easier to work with if u edit

[oblique rover]

ah so theyre both around the same size?

i struggle with size issues when uploading to quest alot haha

[fiery crow]

same size yes

[oblique rover]

gotcha