avatar-help

[junior void]

that heavily depends on how its set up

how is it layered, what blend modes are used etc

[somber sequoia]

yeah mostly I'd probably grab the surrounding colors and try to airbrush

[somber sequoia]

ah, vroid

[stray trench]

is it? this is jinxxy model

[junior void]

substance painter?

[stray trench]

now i gotta learn substance painter 😭

[junior void]

does it come with an spp file

[stray trench]

no just the usual unityproject

i dont think this is from vroid

[junior void]

then youll have to paint it from scratch basically

[stray trench]

thats awesome

im not doing that

[junior void]

ask the maker for spp files

or layered psd

[stray trench]

u think theyd give it? i assumed theyd be cagey about that

[junior void]

cant hurt to ask

[stray trench]

very true

thanks for the help guys

i think thats the best i can do

i just used dodge tool

[stray trench]

before

[wanton cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-sorprendido-shaquille-oneal-gif-23222312

[sullen nacelle]

what constraints do i need to use to make working clones? i've done it before but im trying to find a way to make them replicate your movements but just not rotate

i need them to look at one direction

[ornate stump]

Armature movement is only rotation though.

[timber wharf]

probly smth like global+freeze to world on the root, every other bone is local rotation constraint🤷‍♂️

[full ruin]

Trying to use VRC Quest Tools to make my avatar compatible, and I'm having an issue with Unity. According to the Unity Hub, I have the android stuff installed, but Unity tells me I dont and need to get it? I really dont know what could cause this/how to fix it. If anyone has had to deal with this before, or knows how to fix it, any pointers would be appreciated ^^

[potent scarab]

The imposter generated for my avatar has the crotch clipping through both the underwear and pants.
Is there a way to fix this without having to modify the actual model?
If not, will uploading a version with the body of the avatar cut out just to generate the imposter work?

[somber sequoia]

second question: yes, but there's also this which may help:
https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-impostors#vrcimpostorsettings

[potent scarab]

I saw this, but don't know how to use it in this scenario

[somber meadow]

show higher up in the console, those errors are just telling you to look in the console

anything before "AssetBundle was not built"

[spark walrus]

It says that 20 times and thats it

[somber meadow]

enable "collapse" so spammed errors are condensed and stray errors are easier to find

[somber sequoia]

there you go, "missing script" is the actual root cause.

[spark walrus]

any idea how to fix

[somber meadow]

does the avatar have a list of packages needed to import

like usually it's VRCFury, especially since it's on the root avatar object

[somber sequoia]

Install whatever requirement you didn't install. Might be from the avatar, might be an asset you added.

[spark walrus]

hmmmm

[somber meadow]

Did you import those 3 packages before the avatar's

[spark walrus]

fury is in there

[somber meadow]

well, it doesn't need a specific order

[spark walrus]

poiomi is in there

[somber sequoia]

poiyomi wouldn't do this though.

[spark walrus]

then idk

[somber meadow]

screenshot the root avatar object's inspector with the avatar descriptor, there should be a missing script there

[spark walrus]

this?

[somber meadow]

scroll down within that

[somber sequoia]

you can collapse the lipsync section but show the whole inspector window, not just that one component.

[spark walrus]

there was 2 empty scripts could that be it?

[somber sequoia]

those are the problem ones, yes.

[spark walrus]

i deleted them and now it seems to be uploading

[torpid stone]

I mean, yeah

[somber meadow]

hope it wasn't too important

[torpid stone]

Wish I was here earlier bc even I couldve told you that xD

[somber meadow]

usually vrcfury components there are fix write defaults components

[torpid stone]

Its usually just upload optimizers or stuff people add that doesnt matter

Sometimes when I quest convert with VRCQuestTools itll add two components to the PC build that can be deleted but never do

[spark walrus]

it worked let me hop in vr and test it

[torpid stone]

Fireeee

Im having a small issue, whenever I move in game my arms sway, but there are no components on the avatar that would be causing it to do so, nor are there physbones on the arms that would be causing it.

[somber meadow]

have you done a copy with physbones entirely removed? I saw this same issue on someone else around 2 days ago

[rough crow]

how can i make my avatar quest compatible?

i applied toon lit shaders, as its a mobile shader.

[olive pelican]

Optimize the avatar within the requirements. You will liekly need to do edits ott he model in blender.

[long sierra]

I copied it from an avatar with an identical skeleton and avatar descriptor, and on that avatar, visemes do work, but they don't work on the new one. Is it possible the body mesh having a different name could be an issue? The old avatar's body mesh was body, but the new one is Body (Capitalized)

[sour sparrow]

can someone help me in vc? im kinda stuck with using a particle emiiter for smth and i cant find any other source to help

[long sierra]

Renaming the body mesh seems to have fixed it! O_o

[obtuse bronze]

Hey can anyone help me fix this problem I don't know what to do I have never had this problem before

[long sierra]

Maybe your mesh and textures have too big combined filesize

Try reducing the polycount of your mesh or lowering the resolution of your textures, and if your avatar uses any sound clips, try lowering the quality of them

[obtuse bronze]

OK how do I lower the Poly count?

@long sierra

[somber sequoia]

Look at pinned messages and history in #avatar-optimization and #quest-optimization

you lower poly count by remodeling in a program like Blender.

[indigo compass]

Polycount barely does anything to size.
Shapekeys/blendshapes are generally what take up the most size on meshes, but textures and audio clips take up easily more.

[somber meadow]

animation files as well since they cannot be compressed

[plain mural]

I'm trying to build an avatar that was created on sdk 3.5.2 (as i remember)

I got a strange error one day that I can't build avatar online

Then I created a new file, updated the SDK to the latest version, imported avatar package, imported all the necessary packages, tried to upload the avatar for a test - everything worked. BUT when I try to upload an avatar online, an error appears. I even tried to remove and put a new id (blueprint) for the avatar, but it didn't help

[somber sequoia]

I've heard that, but animations seem to just be .yaml files, so I'm curious why?

[somber sequoia]

Look above, this is likely not the root cause error.

You clipped the window so we can't see the error count, I suspect it's more than just 2

[plain mural]

there are only poiyomi errors
but even if we consider that the problem is because of poi, how can i solve this problem? I tried to uninstall and reinstall, but that didn't help either. I'm at a loss

[somber sequoia]

Again you clipped the counter - are there only 2 errors?

[plain mural]

again - test avatar works
but online avatar - no
but I'm not sure if poi is blocked for test avatar

There are no errors here that would completely prevent me from upload the avatar, as far as I can see (?)

[somber sequoia]

I meant in the console - upper right has counters as to how many of each message. How many red ones are listed?

[somber sequoia]

Great, thanks. Then yeah, kinda unclear what the issue is.

[somber sequoia]

yeah neither of those errors are of much use really.

[plain mural]

i even used deepseek and chatgpt to solve the problem but all it told me was "i can't have rights to edit avatar" wtf man i made it from scratch and i never had any problems before

[somber sequoia]

there would be an error saying that if it were the issue

[plain mural]

Well, the only thing that can cause the problem, from what I see in the console, is poiyomi

probably the only way to find out the problem is to delete packages and see after what time the problem is solved

[somber sequoia]

the poi warnings are warnings (yellow) and shouldn't block this.

[plain mural]

yeah i thought about that too

[flat mica]

What exactly is a vrcavatardescriptor? I downloaded the vrchat creator companion, downloaded Unity, and I got this now. Its my first time trying to do this 😅

[somber sequoia]

You should probably watch a basic tutorial, or read this:
https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/creating-your-first-avatar

(it's step #5)

[dusk falcon]

Why when I save my rigging it doesn’t work

Im rigging it from non humanoid to humanoid

[somber sequoia]

explain what "doesn't work" means here. And check that there are no errors listed in that window where you choose the rigging type.

[dusk falcon]

Ok let me show

Everything is green and fine

But when I save , and I check the setting it still says it’s non humanoid !

[somber sequoia]

Not what I asked about - in the window you're in before you click "Configure", is there an error?

[dusk falcon]

No

[somber sequoia]

ok where does it say it is non-humanoid?

[icy crest]

uh im on the SDK and its making pic between yami and yami FT?

[dusk falcon]

On the avatar descriptor and prepare your content page

[icy crest]

i also have 2 avis on the screen im confused

;-;

[somber sequoia]

you must have two avatars in your scene then.

[icy crest]

isnt FT for fbt?

im like kinda new to this lol

[somber sequoia]

I'm guessing that's Face Tracking

[icy crest]

oh

[somber sequoia]

since there's no 'B' there 🙂

[icy crest]

i did add the face tracking file

like i was told

[somber sequoia]

do you have face tracking hardware?

[icy crest]

nop

but apparently it needed for this avi

[somber sequoia]

probably you don't need that version then.

[icy crest]

there is 2 in the scene lol

[somber sequoia]

Yes

probably you don't need the FT version of the avatar in your scene.

(and can just disable it and use the other)

[icy crest]

i already made sure im uploading to the right hardware logged in on the SDK, i added poy toon and gogo loco manually went to the builder etc it says ''selected avatar;;

[somber sequoia]

yep, if there are multiple active avatars in the scene, you'll have to pick one to upload

[icy crest]

i uploaded the avi on pc first, then went to upload the quest tried to use it, couldnt select it, now im uploading just for pc to see if it works

i feel like it has to do with the quest version not playing nice

[dusk falcon]

Ok I fixed it into humanoid

And this popped up

[somber sequoia]

It's definitely not humanoid, for the reasons specified there.

[dusk falcon]

Aughhh

[flat mica]

Im trying to solve that too rn 😭

Mine is so much worse.. what was my maker doing 💔

[somber sequoia]

not caring, basically

... 533 bones?

[flat mica]

I didnt think that was actually possible

[somber sequoia]

oh it's possible to get worse

[flat mica]

[balmy barn]

those meshes and materials make you a prime target for block/hide avatar

[dusk falcon]

How do you reduce bones anyway

[balmy barn]

throw that nanaci through blender and you wont have wierdly named bones and way less materials if you click a few buttons (can cram all of its texures into 1 - 4k) , here have a badly made atlas ( still better then 10 materials ) cause im not baking one im not using

[dusk falcon]

Ah cool

[trim pawn]

Random question but do I have to rig my avatar to put it into vrchat? If so, how do I do that?

[rough crow]

alright uhh...my avatar is set as humanoid is proper bones and everything. but it's not using VRChat's default locomotion animations.

[somber sequoia]

if you want humanoid movements, yep. See pinned messages in #avatar-rigging

[uneven whale]

What are these modes in Gogo Loco? I still don't understand. What are they for?

[olive pelican]

Yes, generally, and use blender

[wraith plover]

Hello, could someone please help me?

[somber sequoia]

with?

[olive pelican]

Sup

[olive pelican]

...You're a new user?

[wraith plover]

yes :c

[somber sequoia]

?upload

[flat musk]

You must obtain at least "New User" Trust Rank in our Trust and Safety system in order to upload content. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.

As an aside, you must have a VRChat account to upload content. That means you can't use a Steam account, Oculus account, or Viveport account to upload content like worlds or avatars.

Source: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/frequently-asked-questions

[somber sequoia]

^^^

[olive pelican]

Ok, go play the g- yeah that

[wraith plover]

tysm :3

[uneven whale]

???

[olive pelican]

No clue, I don't use Gogoloco

What even is the utility of Gogoloco nowadays?

[somber sequoia]

locomotion, poses, fun animations, flying, etc.

[dawn wharf]

If your on quest or your trackers die

Lol

Mostly what it's used for now

[olive pelican]

That seems such a niche use case. then again I sneer at FBT users who spend the whole time in VR sitting, so I'm probably biased.

[somber sequoia]

It seems more often used for people without FBT

[olive pelican]

mhm. I get that, not having FBT is a pain because of how wacky IK is.

having more granular control over your body in desktop is sensible.

Though I'd rather just make ana avtar FOR desktop use specifically.

[dawn wharf]

This

[plain mural]

Heya. I remember seeing on TikTok that there is some kind of app for simply uploading avatars to your account, but I don't remember the name. Maybe someone knows?

[dawn wharf]

Unity?

[plain mural]

No

I remember it was a different app, it's very small

[somber sequoia]

The only supported method is to use the VRChat SDK in the Unity editor.

[olive pelican]

If it wasb't Vrchat Creator Companion or Unity, it was a scam to steal your credentials.

AKA, don't beleive everything you see on Tiktok of all places.

[somber sequoia]

ah that figures.

[plain mural]

Huh, it's a pity that there isn't a really simple app for this. It would be cool for customers who have problems with unity but alr

[olive pelican]

The worst ones I've seen are guys who offer upload services, then hold the account hostage for money. Wild stuff.

[olive pelican]

I mean, unity is prety dead simple, especially for anyone with a passing understanding of computers and access to youtube.

[plain mural]

Some of my customers had issues with addons, so I just throw the full project folder into them

[somber sequoia]

this is why VRChat now lets creators sell avatars in the game itself.

[plain mural]

As far as I remember, they take 50% of the price for themselves?

Or I don't remember correctly

[somber sequoia]

Yes, everyone facilitating it gets a cut.

[olive pelican]

Probabaly. It's a monetizxation method targeted at low skill users. As long as we can still sell and exchange stuff outside that marketplace, I don't see the issue.

Actually, considering it's aimed at the lower quintile of users who can't do a thing themselves even if you guide them, that's brilliant.

Because I do NOT want those sorts of peeps as clients anyway, lmfao.

[plain mural]

Oh yes, it turns out that now none of my projects with the old sdk work. I used SDK 3.5.2

But the funny thing is that even with the updated SDK, nothing works either :P

[somber sequoia]

you'd probably need the old Unity for a SDK that old

[plain mural]

I have always used 2022.3. 22f1

I'll check if vrchat has updated the recommended version, but a couple of minutes ago vcc showed the required version of this one

[somber sequoia]

that is the right version for SDKs newer than 3.6 I think

[plain mural]

It's strange that everything broke down like this. Well, it happens, I hope I will solve the problem tomorrow because I have already reinstalled hub and unity

[rigid storm]

Hello all, I'm having a very weird problem with a client's model where their avatar has turned from poor to very poor in the VRC client, even though it says it's only poor in the SDK. They need their avatar to be poor, and I saw in the patch notes where they said that they also calculate material switches now, which might downgrade some performance ranks. My question is, how in the hell am I supposed to know what to remove from the avatar for it to be poor in the VRC client.

[somber sequoia]

If you look at it in-game, you can see what's over the limits.

[hazy quest]

How does one import non-humanoid bones animation?
Or do you animate them In Unity?
I can't find a way to import non-humanoid bones animation in Unity and use it on the avatar.

[rigid storm]

That's the thing. There is nothing over the limits.

It says the materials are at 16/32 and it has marked it red.

[somber sequoia]

weird.

[balmy barn]

had one av like that, a old blueprint of the same av would always be 'very poor' , new blueprint 'magically' good #avatar-optimization message

2 vrchat updates later they 'fixed' rating to be more precise its suddenly good again

[slender loom]

Sorry For the random question, as I hope i’m not being annoying when I ask this. But Recently some of my favorite avatars went private. Now luckily the creator of the avatars made the files and project public for anyone to upload themselves. But I’ve been personally having trouble uploading it as when I put the project it seems some materials are missing and some other stuff doesn't seem to work after uploading.
Now the original avatar creator has been dealing with some life stuff so I understand they probably didn't have time or didn’t want to make an entire tutorial on how to upload it.
So I was wondering if someone knew how to fix something like this?
Please understand I only want help if your able, I don’t wanna get in the way of your day or life. But thank you for taking the time to read this. :]

[pine valley]

you're in an empty scene here

if your materials are broken, you may need to install packages (e.g. Poiyomi Toon) to get the shaders they use

[slender loom]

the odd thing is I did do that. But for some reason it doesn't seem like anything in the menu's or idk what there called gestures don't seem to be conect so all it does is make it a basic avatar where the camera is in the middle of the characters chest?

so it appears it places everything on it for some reason as well but the weapons or uber materiel dont appear or the blu team color?

[somber sequoia]

do you have a VRC Avatar Descriptor on the root avatar object?

[pine valley]

that's just the model; the rest of the avatar has to be set up

[slender loom]

oohhhhhhhhhhhh, i'm gonna have to look up how to do that.

[slender loom]

also i dont know what that means. i'm sorry

[vestal grotto]

Hey, I’m wondering if there is anybody that is going to make me an avatar for free because I don’t really have any money on me right now so what’s on the nice enough to hook me up by making me an avatar for free?

[dusty rose]

Aight this is a doozy. So I got two objects that are pretty similar. One is a flag, one is a clipboard. On both I put a parent constraint, cuz I wanna be able to put them somewhere in the world. Both parent constraints are set up the exact same way and both have my right hand as source transform so they snap back after I disable the animation that makes them be fixed in worldspace. For some unexplainable reason one snaps back to my hand and the other one doesn't. I've checked animations, the constraints, tried doing it different toggling the other one first but nothing. Why does it not do the same thing as the other even tho they are set up exactly the same??

[unreal juniper]

Find a free avatar and upload it for yourself 🙌 it's a great way to learn. Rpgslayer has a few free bases

[proper orbit]

IDK if anybody else has been having this issue but when i upload avatars to PC lately they upload fine no issues then i go to upload for quest and the whole avatars goes away and it say "security cheacks failed" dispite in unity saying it was fine? but then if i go reupload the PC version it fixes itself yet there's no quest version?

[sour sparrow]

hey so im trying to make an ability that can make it so a ball shoots out and stops at a certain point in the air, and i wanna make it so if i do a specific gesture i can throw the ball and itll explode, anyone know how i could achieve this?

[tall needle]

I found an issue regarding physbones, I've got a physbone connected to my Elbow, Although it makes the whole arm behave under the physbone component, Anyone got an idea on what I can do?

[vestal grotto]

I’m just asking for someone to make me an avatar for free because I don’t have a PC to make my own avatar and plus I don’t even have the money for it so if someone would be kind enough to make me a free avatar, I really appreciate it

[somber sequoia]

you probably want to watch basic tutorials or read this then (see step 5):
https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/creating-your-first-avatar

[somber sequoia]

VRC Traders discord, supposedly there's a free section but I wouldn't count on that 'cause who wants to work for free.

[somber sequoia]

Not sure what you mean it's doing, but if you mean you put a physbone on a humanoid bone and it made your whole arm floppy well yes, that's what happens, so don't do that 🙂

If not, please provide detail or show us

[vestal grotto]

Dude, I really don’t have any money so I don’t know how you expect me to know if anybody’s gonna work for free because I don’t have a PC and I just want someone to make me an avatar that’s it

[somber sequoia]

Just suggesting you be realistic, that's all. I wish you luck.

[slender loom]

Ok, I think I set it up. So I got it to work but it's still being annoying. The menu appears and such but now but everything is still there and is unaffected the mouth audio doesn't seem to be working as well. i'm still looking into what i'm doing wrong since i'm new of course.

also thank you kazin, sorry if I probably sound stupid. I'll take as much info as i can get. :]

[somber sequoia]

no worries, there's a learning curve here for sure

[tall needle]

That's my fault, Let me put more information into it, I have a bone that's connected to my Elbow as a child object, And the physbone component is on that child bone, It isn't part of the humanoid rig, But the whole Elbow, and part of the top arm seems to behave under the physbone. The left arm in the video has a Physbone on a child bone, While the right one doesn't,
I've checked for weights, Constraints and anything else that could cause issues, but nothing is wrong with the model or the rig, When the physbone is deleted however, The issue no longer happens

[sharp hollow]

A person in a server im in wants help with this stuff

If you can, please dm them at chancegambler. if you can help em

[somber sequoia]

yeah.... that isn't going to happen.

[sharp hollow]

They wouldn't be able to talk here if your talking to me /lh

Lmk if not tho

[somber sequoia]

I was, yes.

[sharp hollow]

Well then ^

They do not have a phone number

And they need to rig something.

[somber sequoia]

honestly not sure I see the difference here?

[tall needle]

The left elbow and lower is more floppy upon movement, Compared to the right which uses basic VRC locomotion animations, It causes issues when moving and doing certain things like jittering etc,

[somber sequoia]

yeah I really don't see any difference. I'll accept that you do though 🙂

it's an interesting idea though, if I'm getting what you're doing here - trying to make for more natural movement?

[tall needle]

I have an outfit that has baggy sleeves, and it’s just so it has actual physics rather than being stiff, I haven’t had this issue before, so I’m confused what could be causing it

[sharp hollow]

Maybe look at both at once

It may help catch

[tall needle]

Wdym?

[sharp hollow]

Is it two sep models? /genq

It sounds like it lol

[civic jungle]

I need some assistance in getting an avatar made budget is 200+ just a male avatar idrk

[somber sequoia]

VRC Traders discord, link is in #1204490664637890580

[worn kiln]

?tag scam

[flat musk]

Hey ho 👋 I see you're looking for commissions.

You will probably receive DM's or friend requests from scammers now (or later) that will try to offer you their services. 😖

🚫 Absolutely DO NOT engage with those, regardless of how competent they might seem or their excuse to why they contact you.
This is unsafe practice used by scammers, and also breaks this Discord's rules. 👮

If you seek a creator, check out VRCTraders and follow their protocols strictly 🥺
(You will get DM from bot to verify your account upon join.)

🌠 It's extremely important to always DEEPLY investigate the account and social media of the person you plan to commission.
Is their social media linked in Discord? Is it legitimate? Are the references stolen? (Try to reverse image search posts to check.) 👀
The quality of fake profiles out there can be crazy good, be aware of that and NEVER engage with DM or friend requests that originate from the artist.

When in the slightest doubt, do not commission them and contact the moderators of the involved communities. 😱

[quaint frost]

Getting avatar too short but upping the scale just exceeds the bounding box, not too sure what to do or if scale is even the correct way to fix that

[somber sequoia]

is it not standing on 0,0,0? that's often a cause of this

[quaint frost]

0, 1.9, 0 so the feet are out of the ground

[somber sequoia]

yeah that's an issue

your avatar's origin should be at the world origin, and it should be standing on that point.

[quaint frost]

well reset the bounds but not sure what to do from there. avatar is under grid from the neck

[somber sequoia]

if this is the issue, I don't think you can fix this in Unity, I've done it in Blender.

[quaint frost]

fixed it in blender and re exported, height/origin are fixed but now bounding box is 10x the requirement

[somber sequoia]

re-export with "apply scalings" set to "FBX All" rather than the default.

Also under "armature", uncheck the option to add leaf bones.

[quaint frost]

got both of those already

[somber sequoia]

oh then possibly the avatar wasn't done like that the first time - are your physbone colliders and such really small?

[quaint frost]

uh i made this from scratch, colliders were autogenerated and this is the first time outside of blender

[somber sequoia]

making that actually be humanoid is going to be fun. I like it though

[quaint frost]

yeah i'm learning as i go lmfao

i think i fixed it, just dropped the scale really low

kek

[somber sequoia]

maybe you don't have scalings applied in Blender?

[quaint frost]

don't think i touched scaling in blender so probably, easy fix though

[somber sequoia]

yeah select object(s), ctrl-a, apply all transforms

then you get it at scale of 1 in unity, and it's the size it is

[quaint frost]

thanks for your help lol, also is there something you need to do before you can upload?

[somber sequoia]

?upload

[flat musk]

You must obtain at least "New User" Trust Rank in our Trust and Safety system in order to upload content. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.

As an aside, you must have a VRChat account to upload content. That means you can't use a Steam account, Oculus account, or Viveport account to upload content like worlds or avatars.

Source: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/frequently-asked-questions

[quaint frost]

oh nice alright, just getting started so guess itll be a bit before i can test

[sharp oasis]

Unity closes while uploading when I try to build a local test version of my avatar. This is the only warning, no errors.

When trying to normal upload too

[sour sparrow]

how can i make it so when i toggle something, my characters hand stays in a set position, and can i do it with vrcfury?

[somber sequoia]

you'd need to have a animation in the gesture animator set the position when the same conditions cause your FX animation to happen. You can do it with Fury but I don't know the best method, I rarely use it.

[chilly solar]

hey i got an avatar which is orange and uses the vrchat toon standard shader and in one room is very bright, im not sure how to fix it. im not sure if its just the room or the shader

[sour sparrow]

alrighty, off topic but wouldnt you want to use it because it makes the process faster?

[somber sequoia]

I don't think it does

[hard hatch]

So i just uploaded my avatar and discovered that my hand gestures aren't working at all. The animation for the face and ears are working but the hands are just stuck in a single position and cannot move. Does anyone know how to fix this?

Whatever it is, there's something up with the animations for the hands

[merry sedge]

culling is set to back and i dont have anything in the backface section cuz it didnt seem to do anything
the bellybutton is weird from the right side though but fine from the left

unity server told me to ask here 😔

[west pulsar]

@timid raft ask here

[timid raft]

Thnx u

Does anyone know what this is about? It’s been over a year since I last uploaded

[west pulsar]

A world or an Avi? 🤣

[timid raft]

I’m tryna upload a avi lmao

Wait

Omfg

[west pulsar]

You must’ve pressed world and not the avi thing

🤣

[timid raft]

I’m gonna just leave and not come back now

🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[west pulsar]

Oml

[timid raft]

I’m done

I’m done

[west pulsar]

Just text me in private LOL

[quaint frost]

how would you go about making a avatar with the head/spine pretty far forward from the actual hips? i've already got an armature setup but it straightens out in vrc and its not a pretty sight. would i just make a tposed armature thats offset from the regular pose in blender?

[somber sequoia]

two sets of rigging - one to get the data from how your body moves, which VRChat's IK moves. Then the second set which moves the mesh, and you use rotation constraints to copy the rotation.

with the rotation constraints set to move in local space, it ought to be pretty close.

[open spindle]

Is something was copyrighted falsely what can my friend do?

[frail tree]

hey uhhh

does anyone know whats going on with this???

i just added liltoon and like

it just shows this

and nothing ive done has been able to fix it

i need the liltoon shader but it just wont work

[somber meadow]

Where are you getting liltoon from?

[frail tree]

the github

i assume thats where i SHOULD get it from

[somber meadow]

Do you use creator companion?

[frail tree]

i do

[somber meadow]

https://lilxyzw.github.io/lilToon/

click the first "VCC" button in the page to add it to creator companion instead. Make sure to delete the previous liltoon stuff in your project before using this version

[frail tree]

well i do that but then VCC opens for a split second then shuts itself

wait now it works

[timid raft]

Did I download the wrong SDK? Cause I can’t remember how I did it before

[somber meadow]

use creator companion to install the SDK

[timid raft]

Okay

[timid raft]

Thnx u

[hard hatch]

If that doesn't work, I'd say make sure your sdk is up to date

[raven field]

Not neccessarily inneed of any direct help but i do need some feedback. (outside of the obviously slopply texturing)
What should I do to help make this avatar not feel so, flat? I guess. I gues it just feels off. In comparison to other textures.
Or am i just delusional

[open spindle]

Rim lighting or a matcap

[sullen forge]

Hey chat, I'm working on setting up my model for VRchat, and I've had to more or less manually set the bones?

Like- configure them, I mean.

[raven field]

How would i go about setting that up

[open spindle]

Are you using poiyomi?

[raven field]

yes

[open spindle]

It should be under shading then

[raven field]

cuz im looking at other avatars using the same base (and ofc they did a better job texturing) but they just feel alot more right. and the lighting/shading on my avi looks alot different

[open spindle]

That seems to be just world lighting lol

[raven field]

Well thats a bad screenshot for comparsion but i mean ingame too in the same world

[sullen forge]

It keeps saying my model is not in t-pose because of these bones?

They're not part of the actual Blender model, they're generated in to like- connect.

[stark meadow]

theres a dropdown menu that says pose under the bone assignment menu on the right

click that dropdown and try "enforce t-pose"

[sullen forge]

Okay, so once I do that, do I need to do the Rig, Humanoid Rig "Create From This Model" thing?

[somber sequoia]

just set it to humanoid and hit apply, then configure and check the bones are in the right places

[sullen forge]

It keeps saying the bone LeftFoot is missing.

I have the LeftFoot bone in the model.

[somber sequoia]

but is it in the left foot slot in the rig setup?

[sullen forge]

It reset all of the bone sets, I'm getting irritated, here's the file.

This happened like. Three times.

[tulip sage]

Inhale so I've been using vrc fury for a while and this has never happened but when I go to add the vrc gogo prefab it says this and doesn't work I've tried everything I can think of but nothing is working

Idm giving someone my unity package for them to look at it

[stray trench]

is there a tool for adding face tracking to an avi that doesnt have it?

doesntm atter to me if its arkit, UE or whatever else

[stark meadow]

blender but you gotta do it yourself

[stray trench]

there is no other way?

[stark meadow]

not that i know of

(i am not a good source on facetracking info)

[stray trench]

thanks anyway

[stray trench]

there are some gloves on this avi that doesn't have a toggle, so I tried making one with vrcfury but they aren't affected. would this be because it is being controlled by an animation somewhere?

im pretty lazy and have done my best to avoid anything with animations and normal menuing without vrcfury so im trying to understand what would cause this

[stray trench]

my feet are in the ground

gogo loco poses dont have this issue though

[tulip sage]

Any idea on this

[junior void]

looks like youre missing gogo loco

vrcfury does not include the gogo package even though theres a prefab for it

[ornate stump]

There is some script breaking. Check console error.

[tulip sage]

I have the package is the thing I checked the console as well and it wasn't giving me anything

[bold obsidian]

hey could you guys potentially help te issue i'm having in #avatar-quest ?

[ornate stump]

Are you sure you aren't toggle error visibility in console?

[junior void]

nothing personal but i believe it when i see it ;)

[rough crow]

this is like the 600th time i asked for help about this. and this time i will ask it in better detail to attempt to make more sense.

im using unity, i want the limbs of my model (head, arms, legs, textures, and accessories) to be put on a different model (which has bones already configured and ready since i cant add bones myself for crap). i cannot put it into blender because the configured model is a unitypackage, so that means i cannot use blender whatsoever.

if there's anyone that can help me, i'd greatly appreciate it.

[sterile python]

So my personal view for my avatar is weird. It's like the right eye has my body leaning right and left has it leaning left. Any idea what is causing this?

[junior void]

ofc you can use blender

a unitypackage includes the fbx, which is what comes out of blender

[rough crow]

then how do i get it?

is there a way to export it?

[junior void]

get what exactly

the fbx?

[rough crow]

yep.

[junior void]

its somewhere in the files of the unitypackage

make a project, let it extract there, find the fbx, drag it out

[rough crow]

i believe this is the fbx?

[junior void]

look at the whole file name in the bottom of the window

should end in .fbx

[rough crow]

it is the fbx.

then i just drag the fbx in unity to blender?

yes i do.

thx for your help zero!!

[bold obsidian]

so im having this issue with the ears on an avatar i'm uploading, in unity it looks fine but whenever i'm ingame it looks metallic i've tried changing shaders and sliders but nothingis working. any ideas? (the images of proof)

[dusty rose]

Is someone familiar with the freeze to world option on a parent constraint? I figured out how it works for an item but each time I waant to put it somewhere else it just snaps to the first position where I enabled freeze to world option.

[proper orbit]

still need help with this🙏

[somber sequoia]

you still can't really do this in Unity

also amusing, I literally told you to do what you just did 2 days ago

[spring crest]

Im stuck with this trying to upload shred unbound and I don't know how to fix any body knows ?

[night ember]

both errors tell you exactly the issue

you are trying to use visemes but didnt select the mesh with the visemes

you didnt set up the avatar's parameters correctly and is missing one

[spring crest]

Alright but idk where to résolve that im New to unity.

I know one is in the toggles but can't find how to fix it.

[night ember]

parameters in the avatar descriptor

[spring crest]

Okay

Ill look at that and if I can't find it ill Come back.

[rough crow]

can someone tell me what's wrong? i have no animations whatsoever.

[junior void]

the animation here is your toggle

[rough crow]

...oh.

[junior void]

this is commonly seen in prefabs in the assets folder because... theyre not in your avatar (yet)

[rough crow]

so i need it my speed coil to be the child of my avi?

yep.

i do.

thx for helping!

[junior void]

^_^

[spring crest]

Okay so i repaired the viseme one

[spring crest]

but i can't find the CL/socks

[night ember]

the error is literally telling you it doesnt exist

when a menu is trying to use it

[spring crest]

but in the toggle parameter it does exists i can see it ?

[night ember]

so add it to the parameter list like its telling you

[spring crest]

How do i do that ?

Im so sorry im a bit slow

[night ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqtSg6_W07Y

[spring crest]

Done ty

[vast python]

can someone help me with a avi problem?
for some reason i can double jump in vrc and my camera spins like crazy whenever i jump in general
i genuinely cant figure it out, only happens with the avatar i put together and uploaded

[ornate stump]

You likely had physic collider on your avatar.

[vast python]

im so sorry but im relatively new to this and I have no idea how to locate that

[ornate stump]

Try searching in hierarchy with t:collider

[vast python]

this is what came up

[ornate stump]

look in inspector what kind of component it has.

[vast python]

they all only have a singular capsule collider

[ornate stump]

That's the physic collider I talked about.

[vast python]

Oh
let me try removing it give me a sec

[ornate stump]

You better have to get to know why it's there to begin with.

[vast python]

it was apart of a shirt I've added, im not exactly sure what it does but removing the collider fixed the issue!
thank you so much you're a life saver

[ornate stump]

It's likely being used for cloth simulation collision. If you're fine without that then sure you fixed it.

[dusty rose]

U ever find a solution?

[dusty rose]

hello there person that wanted to solve the same problem I have rn. For some reason ur solution from back then doesnt work for me rn and since u seem educated I wanted to ask you why or if there have been changes that broke this from vrc side

[dusk falcon]

I’m on blender 4.5 , using the newest version of cats blender plugin , I installed material merger cuz it says it’s gonna optimise it

I’ve never tried this before so I’m so nervous I’m gonna mess up !

Ok nvm fixed !

[lunar iris]

i am making a avatar and now my pov is tilted it seems i think

could just be me

[junior void]

perhaps your head bone is tilted?

[ornate stump]

Just click on one of the axis and see if camera reoriented.

[silver token]

im trying to upload an avatar to quest aswell but it for some reason makes the windows security check fail and doesnt upload to quest when i build to android and it gives me no error?

[ornate stump]

You might have to check performance rating in the sdk if something is causing very poor perf excessively.

[jagged stag]

my avatar I uploaded leans forward super hard when walking at full speed - is there a way to fix that?

looks goofy when moving fast

[silver token]

it should be fine to upload idk what would be causing it

[ornate stump]

Post screenshot of the performance report.

[dusty rose]

As one can see this is a flag that I made an animation for to toggle the freeze to world box. The flag is otherwise animated tho so one can grab it at the low end of the flag pole and higher. That uses a position toggle. Whenever I make the freeze to world work, the position toggle doesnt work anymore, not even when the freeze to world is disabled. Whenever I make the position toggle work, the freeze to world wont work correctly anymore and it just places the flag at the first position I put it. Whats the sweetspot here? Or better yet how can I make both work?

[bold obsidian]

Hey guys im still having an issue with these ears on an avi im uploading, the ears appear metallic in game but look fine in unity and I’ve tried changes shaders and sliders but still nothing,

[lilac musk]

The photo you sent of Unity doesn't actually show the settings of the material. It would be good for us, in order to help you, to actually see if your material is as you say. If the material is setup correctly, it could be an animation changing it. Check that all your animations aren't either changing the metallic value or changing the material as a whole.

[lilac musk]

Yea that material seems setup fine. So it's probably an animation changing something

[bold obsidian]

Where would I look to see that?

[lilac musk]

Best to start off looking at all the animation controller layers. This will tell us if you have animations being applied beyond the default vrchat stuff.

Go to your avatar descriptor and then to the expressions section

[balmy barn]

upload without fx controller / test in unity with av3 / id still remove this first then upload a offline test

[lilac musk]

That might be a good idea as well, a multiplicative matcap might look kinda metalic. Never played with that myself though so wouldn't know from experience

[cursive elbow]

can anyone help me put physcis on something in my avatar

i dont want it to clip trough

[bold obsidian]

tried disabling matcap and it didn't work, but hopefully this will help you guys helpme

[dusk falcon]

Holy shit ! I’m fixing it !

I’m so happy !

Uh oh

Dang it !

[dusk falcon]

According to my map everything is green

[night ember]

just because its green doesnt mean the stuff is correctly parented

[dusk falcon]

God why is unity rigging stuff so annoying

[night ember]

its straight forward unless you are trying to use a model not meant for vrchat

[dusk falcon]

It’s mmd

I used cats blender plugin

[night ember]

are you even sure you are allowed to use that mmd model in vrchat

[dusk falcon]

I checked the deviantart page of the creator and they said it’s ok to use for private as long as I don’t sell it or something

[lunar iris]

ah forgot about that thanks

thanks it fixed it

i dont know how that happened lol

[bold obsidian]

still need assistance :)

[dusk falcon]

I check rules on deviantart before I download

[night ember]

the bones are literally just
hip, spine, chest, (upper chest optional), neck, head
chest (or upper chest if you have one), shoulder, upper arm, lower arm, hand

[night ember]

you got a link to it?

[dusk falcon]

Ok

https://www.deviantart.com/theelementalgriffin/art/MMD-TDA-Gregory-Violet-Download-1086505176 I always see if they say no vrchat

[rough crow]

people are telling me that toggles on my avatar appear full pink, does anyone know why?

[somber sequoia]

pink is usually due to a broken material

[rough crow]

ohh.

but in unity, it shows up as a normal texture.

[somber sequoia]

Did you test those toggles in Unity in play mode?

[rough crow]

i did not actually..

[somber sequoia]

you should definitely do that

[rough crow]

how do i get to play mode?

[somber sequoia]

play button at the top of the screen.

Ideally use a tool like Avatar 3.0 emulator or gesture manager so you can actually work the toggles while doing this

then you can also watch the animator and see what it does.

[rough crow]

alright!

how do i get the toggle wheel on the side of my screen?

[somber sequoia]

you mean when testing in play mode? gesture manager (click on the gesture manager object and look in the inspector) or av3 emulator (click on the avatar root and look in the inspector)

I personally have both installed but use AV3 emulator

[slender loom]

Hello again, Sorry for returning with this avatar. So I was able to upload it all together on windows but it appears something is up when trying to upload to quest. As it's telling me i'm missing somethings from the gesture manager?

[somber sequoia]

those two packages sometimes have version issues, make sure they're up to date. I know some others have said they couldn't have both installed, but I do and it works for me.

[slender loom]

thank you, i'll check if they need updating.

[rough crow]

and what happened?

[somber sequoia]

probably you have a submenu option with no menu specified

[plain tusk]

So, uh.... I did an oopsie and I was trying to import facetracking to the avatar I've got and it broke my character. Anyone know how to help me fix this, please? 😭

[somber sequoia]

it's not really clear from that - can you explain exactly what you did?

[plain tusk]

All I did was just import the facetracking and it just jumbled my avatar up like that 🥲

[somber sequoia]

"import" being exactly what

[plain tusk]

I wish I knew how to explain it. I don't know anything about Unity. It just gave my an option to Import and that's what I did 🙂‍↕️

[somber sequoia]

you can say exactly which action this was. Did you click on a menu option?

did you drag a thing somewhere?

[plain tusk]

I think I did drag it to the Hierarchy

[somber sequoia]

Right, this is the important part, and why I'm asking for exact actions. This one you might be able to just undo if you ctrl+z

I wouldn't call this "import" either, for the record.

[plain tusk]

I tried that but it won't work since I closed out of it thinking it would fix itself without me saving it

[somber sequoia]

Yes, this information should be in the problem description.

you imported a package, dragged a prefab into the scene (where?), something happened, you closed unity?

[undone sleet]

i cant see any slash effects on avis on only my side anyone know what the issue could be? im on pcvr and its only on my side

[stone trellis]

It mutated into a bird

[somber sequoia]

slash effect?

[undone sleet]

with swordsmand such

[somber sequoia]

probably you'd have to explain in more detail too

[undone sleet]

Liindy's saber katana for example

[plain tusk]

Idk how to explain it. I think I'll just have to re-do her again.

[somber sequoia]

ah, not sure how that works, but iirc they do have a discord, perhaps you could try there

[undone sleet]

it has a slash effect which is invisible on my side

[somber sequoia]

in mirrors or not?

[undone sleet]

but perfevtly visible on my side

[somber sequoia]

er.. what?

it's both visible and invisible?

[undone sleet]

invisible

no im stupid

i cant see it on my side

but for others itsfine

[undone sleet]

no in general

[somber sequoia]

ok, then without having that asset so I can look into it, I don't really have anything to suggest

[undone sleet]

also notin mirrors

its on other avis too with different assets

[somber sequoia]

if it was not in mirrors but you could see it otherwise, I'd suggest the particle shader is only rendering one side

[undone sleet]

its on a public avi wkth the asset

[somber sequoia]

okay?

[undone sleet]

so i cant even really change anything abt it

[somber sequoia]

ohh

so this isn't really an avatar development issue at all

[undone sleet]

idk where else im meant to put it

[somber sequoia]

user support maybe?

[lilac musk]

If it wasn't the matcap, then do as another person suggested and remove your animation controllers and make a test build. This will be to test if there is an animation that's changing the material or its properties

[civic bone]

so my avatar has a thrusters i want the thrusters to be turned on with an (IsGrounded) parameter im just trying to figure out a way of doing it with vrcfury cuz when i try to record the animation it just doesnt work it puts my avatar in the floor and in like a crouched position so i just want it to be a toggle with the parameter. how would i do this

[balmy barn]

perfect time to learn doing it yourself instead of vrcfury, its just that parameter as a transition

[civic bone]

thats the problem i know how to its my avatar going into the ground when i try to animate it

its being a bitch lol

[junior void]

Bike?

[civic bone]

?

[balmy barn]

normal for your av to sink when you try to record an animation in unity , its not animating any bones = 'bike' pose

[civic bone]

how do i fix that

[balmy barn]

ignore it

[civic bone]

ok

[balmy barn]

100% normal when you try to record animations, it goes back up when you done

[civic bone]

ok

[balmy barn]

you can set it temporary generic if its annoying , wont move at all then

green = generic, red = humanoid , both same av

[glacial vessel]

uploading this avatar and i cant interact with my unity and my uploader has been on this forever, do i leave it, is it normal?

[vernal moss]

Hiiii Mooooon

[tulip sage]

Yeah I'm extremely sure

[left gull]

if you've already tried uploading under a diff blueprint ID are any of your model's stats majorly outside the set limits?

[somber meadow]

What does Unity look like entirely?

is your unity scene background blue

[glacial vessel]

it ended up uploading just fine

is it possible to uplaod 2 avatars at once

[somber meadow]

2 entirely different avatars, or 1 avatar with a separate PC and Android build?

[glacial vessel]

2 different avatars at once

[drowsy crane]

how do I throw my vrchat avatar into blender so I can delete unnecessary bones?

[somber sequoia]

find the model file (usually .fbx) and in blender, use the menu options file -> import -> import fbx

[drowsy crane]

thanks man

[drowsy crane]

okay im deleting some bones, but then what after?
does it automatically change the object/model to not have bones in unity?

[somber meadow]

you'll need to export the fbx, and overwrite the existing fbx file. If your avatar isn't in a FBX Linked prefab, then you'll have to use something with pumkin's avatar tools to copy everything over to a new object

[glass lotus]

Anyone know what I could possibly do to make my build size lower, it fits but theres no room to add anything

[burnt solstice]

Yes to all of it ive even started a new package

[glacial vessel]

I uploaded the pc version, now how do i upload the quest, idk abt blueprint id and build mode ans stuff

[left gull]

well that's likely where you're struggling then, you've gotta get your stats reasonably within the set limits (listed here: https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-performance-ranking-system ) cause if you go too far past what sets you to Very Poor it'll just throw security checks

if you're uploading to android or iOs you might be able to fix it by getting rid of some stuff or lowering texture rez etc but if its PC you'll likely need to do some blender work of some kind to really optimize it

[glass lotus]

You can have Very Poor rank and still have it work, security checks happen when the engine that checks your model found something wrong besides what it could see in your editor

[left gull]

yes but if its too far past what sets you as Very poor it wont work and will throw checks

[glass lotus]

It wont let you upload if its past very poor

[balmy barn]

296k 'quest' avatars

[left gull]

it'll let you upload in some cases but wont actually load in-game because it fails the checks

[glass lotus]

You can have an Excellent rank fail the checks

[left gull]

yeah... and?

they said their stats are majorly outside the limits, read above

[glass lotus]

They just agreed to what you said without really knowing

[glacial vessel]

rez?

[drowsy crane]

it worked fine without needing the tool, thanks

[left gull]

i used the wrong res, but texture resolution. its sometimes great for getting avatar size alot lower if you're using big images

[glacial vessel]

no look at my name, lol

[left gull]

ah

couldnt tell that was an R

[sour sparrow]

anyone know how to make a toggle that can copy yur current avaatars position and pose and kinda place it down as a seperate object?

theres an avatar called mokuzai that i saw it on and i want to recreate the effect but idk how

[tawdry oasis]

would anyone happen to know how to fix this issue I have been having with an mmd port? whenever I crouch in half body the legs seem to bend inwards and if I crouch enough outright cross

[pearl furnace]

how to fix this?

[tawdry oasis]

could try locking the materials manually

[soft aurora]

so i have this avatar, i basically went into blender and used data transfer from another model so i can use the visemes (their both from the same game) and its normal in blender and in unity but play mode breaks it all, the teeth and lower lip just stretch out, anyway to fix it?

[lilac musk]

That looks more like a weight painting issue

[soft aurora]

Yeah im not sure what happened, I dont know if it was the data transfer

it looks fine ehre

here*

I found my issue but im so confused?

My lower lip bones are in straight lines?

[ripe flame]

Using Vrcfury, How would I make a toggle that resets my expression toggles back to the avatars default face??

[drowsy crane]

how can I make my clothes on the avatar morph with the body? Im using a Nardoragon model, with Nardoragon clothes, I'd like the clothes to morph with the chub slider

[lilac musk]

Blendshapes if the clothes have them

[lilac musk]

straight lines?

[ripe flame]

If not that it has to be done in blender right?

Just asking

[lilac musk]

Yes

[soft aurora]

I just deleted the bones, I dont think i need them for shape keys

Yeah I didnt, fixed my issue

[lilac musk]

You'll want to make sure those parts of the mesh that those bones controlled are weighted to the head though

[clever zinc]

does anyone know how to make a contact receiver to toggle something and for it to stay on even if the contact sender is not touching it, I am new to contacts

trying to make it toggle this on and keep it on

[lilac musk]

You'd have multiple states. Have a wait state that does nothing until the contact receiver gets touched, transitioning to the state you want to animate. Only have it transition out of that state when you are ready for it, into another wait state doing the same as before.

[clever zinc]

alright

[hard linden]

Would anyone be willing to help me with setting up multiple outfits for my avatar? I've watched videos but I can't really quite find exactly what I'm looking for and I end up messing it up every time

[clever zinc]

is it possible to get a showing of what you mean.?

[lilac musk]

Something like this

[clever zinc]

alright thanks I will do that :D

[drowsy crane]

how do I combine textures?

[somber sequoia]

what's your actual goal? 'cause it depends...

[sharp crater]

A lazy and easy way would be to use something like https://markcreator.gumroad.com/l/Polytool

The free version lets you try it, but not save/upload the results

[vivid wyvern]

I have been trying to get an audio file to play off of my avatar for a while now. I can't quite figure it out. The audio is only ever heard in the GestureManager if I have the Play On Awake and attach the audio file to the source itself. All I have been trying to do is use the toggle to play the audio clip out of the speaker without dedicating the speaker to one sound.

[somber sequoia]

show what you have. Alternatively you could consider VRC Animator Play Audio on an animation state.

[vivid wyvern]

one sec

[drowsy crane]

uploading my avatar to quest

[somber sequoia]

so you're trying to combine material slots then?

[drowsy crane]

yes

[vivid wyvern]

@somber sequoia Then I already have a functioning animation set that just changes me shadowy and back to normal.

[fiery crest]

Is anyone able to sit in a call with me and help me edit some particles? I'm already using a decent base for one, just need to adjust it a bit except I don't know particles and the videos are either not specific enough on what I need, or they feel like pulling teeth trying to watch

[somber sequoia]

doesn't seem unreasonable, at a glance

[vivid wyvern]

RIGHT

[drowsy crane]

how do I combine material slots? I can't find a video that helps

[somber sequoia]

edit the mesh, select all faces using one of the materials, assign those faces one of the other materials

but maybe you want to bake or atlas textures first

you can certainly just create a new texture set too

[drowsy crane]

and how do I do that?😭

[drowsy crane]

im guessing this is blender

[swift finch]

i added gogoloco to my avi and most of it works fine but the dash shoots me to the right

[somber sequoia]

Yes, blender.

[drowsy crane]

shit

[somber sequoia]

there's this for atlasing, but it's a bit limited:
https://github.com/Grim-es/material-combiner-addon

[jolly ingot]

Im having a problem with unity, when ever I import my avatar i always have a missing face in unity on the leg

I've checked in blender and the backface culling but all are good in blender except in unity

[lilac musk]

What does it look like from the inside? I'd almost bet it is indeed a flipped normal

[somber sequoia]

that'd be my first guess too

[jolly ingot]

nope

ive already checked in blender and its all there and normal but missing in unity

[somber sequoia]

that's not showing the face orientation though. In the view overlays, turn on "face orientation" and see if it's red

you can't see this from either of those views

[jolly ingot]

is that in unity?

[still shuttle]

No, its in blender

[somber sequoia]

^ that

[jolly ingot]

no its shows blue

[somber sequoia]

ok that's correct then, blue is the front face

[jolly ingot]

the missing face only happens in unity

[hard hatch]

Does anyone know how to add a gesture lock onto an avatar?

[drowsy crane]

sorry for asking too much, but would 223,492 triangles still be good enough to be visible for quest?

[somber sequoia]

make a new variable and use it as an additional condition for your animator transforms in the layer that does your gestures.

[somber sequoia]

that's a huge amount, and will be Very Poor (thus blocked by default) and impact your own performance.

[drowsy crane]

but would it still be quest compatible?

[somber sequoia]

if you can squeeze that under the avatar size limits, sure. But why would you?

[drowsy crane]

just asking before I start to lower triangles

[lilac musk]

It's more than 10x over the poor rank for quest. Not going to be fun to deal with on your end or others. Best try to reduce it.

[drowsy crane]

reducing triangles is on blender, right?

[hard hatch]

Idk how to do that 😭

[somber sequoia]

yes

[drowsy crane]

🥀

i'll just search for videos on how to do it

[lilac musk]

Loop dissolves, decimation, or fully retopology. Each have their ups and downs.

@somber sequoia I think your getting convo's mixed up lol

[drowsy crane]

I just wanna have my oc being alive in vrc😔

[somber sequoia]

oh! I was, thank you

[jolly ingot]

@somber sequoia

[somber sequoia]

as a hint, this is Unity animator stuff, not VRChat-specific stuff.

?

[jolly ingot]

im also getting this error in unity

[somber sequoia]

you don't need to ping me to ask about errors

[jolly ingot]

oh sorry

[somber sequoia]

(also that is a warning)

[hard hatch]

Im fully aware. I just cant find any sort of tutorial or walk throughs on how to do this

[somber sequoia]

yeah I don't know of those, but the unity docs about animators are decent.

[lilac musk]

Something about the model seems to be messed up. I'd suggest deleting those verticies and replacing them. You'll need to know how to fix the weights and UV's, but it should fix the issue

Oh and shape keys if it has 'em

[lilac musk]

Learn what you can about the animation controller in general. Should get you on the right path

[somber sequoia]

that warning is pretty clear what the problem is. It doesn't give you a clue as to which polygon it is, that's harder to figure out.

[lilac musk]

I'd say it's safe to assume it's one of the 4 that make up that quad

[somber sequoia]

There's a blender plugin for doing 3D print stuff that has a self-intersection checker, that's what I use.

iirc "3d print toolbox"

[drowsy crane]

ykw... blender isn't that bad

[hard hatch]

Blender is like a gaslighting spouse

[drowsy crane]

it's kinda overcomplicated

[lilac musk]

It's just a swiss army knife of a program. Most people that get into VRChat stuff that use Blender, don't touch even half of it's features

[somber sequoia]

I've done a ton with it and there are sections I've entirely ignored.

[lilac musk]

I'm just such a curious person and blender seems to be like candy to mah brain lol

[drowsy crane]

it kinda hurts mine😅

[lilac musk]

Though once the learning is over, the work becomes kinda boring. I learned a bit about animations and want to do more, but keyframing everything is so tedious and time consuming. Still facinating though

[drowsy crane]

im decimating (literally what it's called) all the hair add-ons I have on the avatar

[lilac musk]

Nice

[drowsy crane]

im decimating the shit out of the models

[lilac musk]

Just be careful of places that need to bend. It's easy to take a decimation too far and make things like joints look... bleh

[drowsy crane]

oh no, im only doing it to the random add-ons like the fins, ring, fur pieces

[lilac musk]

Yea accessories are notorious for being very poly dense. Seen some jewelry that had more polys than whole avatars smh

[drowsy crane]

yeah..

and I don't want my avatar to be like those crappy vrc bots with a lot of accessories or static effects

I went from having 200,000+ triangles, to 72,870 triangles, only from the accesories and fur

that's so crazy

[somber sequoia]

2871 more and you can be medium

[drowsy crane]

sick

[craggy shard]

For some reason whenever I toggle on my fox tail for an avatar I bought, it just randomly untoggles each time I join a new instance? Is there a way to fix this or should I contact the seller?

[somber sequoia]

Look in the avatar parameters list, make sure the parameter used for the tail has the "saved" checkbox enabled

[copper kernel]

is there anyone heere thats experienced with krita that can help me?

[trim shale]

does anyone know why my shoes are like moving when i walk i place them on the toes i just dont know whats happening

[somber meadow]

you place it under the ankle/foot bone, not toes

[trim shale]

so what mine was the shoe mesh and a empty prefab that the mesh was under snd i deleted the empty bc where are u susposed to put 1 thing likr the hips

and my model dosent have feet but it has ankle

[jolly ingot]

figured out the issue, I had to many vertices and unity doesnt really know how to calculate more than 4 so i had to use the knife tool and and cuts where the problem was

[somber meadow]

You're supposed to work with quads or triangles, no game engine likes to deal with n-gons

[ancient grotto]

So, I’m in the middle of weight painting and I’ve found myself painting the same bone over and over only to realize that the changes made sort of reset once I’ve switched to the next bone

[dense valve]

I'm trying to upload my avatar but the build bar wont move at all

[somber meadow]

What does your entire unity look like, is your scene background blue

[dense valve]

yes

It's just the avatar and the background is blue

[somber meadow]

Click this to exit prefab preview mode, the SDK cannot build prefabs while you're in this mode. Drag the prefab into the hierarchy instead of double clicking it

[dense valve]

omg thanks

thats been driving me insane

I have another issue

I have it imported in the game but the avatar is stuck behind me

How can I fix that

[quaint oak]

So, I have this avatar that seems to be double the size for other users because my head is where my friend is flying in the 2nd image but for me he looks as he should normally? The scale of it in unity is 1 because y'know the default so I'm wondering if there's a way to fix it or if I just have to rebuild the avatar from scratch

[sour sparrow]

is making an impact frame for something possible for quest

[worthy wave]

Hi everyone, so i wanna move stuff around in my model hierarchy on unity and for that i need to unpack the prefab but VRCFury says i shouldn't, so what do i do?

[timber wharf]

if its lke a prop, like model has idk, a hat thats not connected to an armature, then you can duplicate it and move the copy, on og one delete every component

you shouldnt unpack avatar's main prefab, thats a bad practice

@sour sparrow no, thatd require grab pass on a shader. two particles with bunch of white/black streaks (add/mult shaders) is best i can imagine

[sour sparrow]

okay thank you

[dark jay]

https://tenor.com/view/kaneshiya-sitara-alice-gear-aegis-aga-gif-25095193 anyone know where i can get this emote ive seen it on vrchat avis

[stray trench]

what causes the hair to have these white lines from a distance? outlines are off

[ornate stump]

http://wiki.polycount.com/wiki/Edge_padding

[stray trench]

ty

[trim shale]

can someon help me

[broken bone]

Looks like the skin weights on your shoes are messed up

[junior void]

that and it also looks like the shoes have their own armature from a humanoid avatar that do not match up with the short limbs or the cat

[broken bone]

Yeah if they were ripped off of something else that’s very likely

[balmy barn]

blender , import shoes - adjust abit - delete old vertex groups, transfer from body to shoes

[glacial vessel]

im having the problem and blue backround but no prefab mode to exit

[somber meadow]

screenshot your unity

[somber sequoia]

there should be a back arrow at the top of the hierarchy window

[glacial vessel]

cant interact with anything

[somber meadow]

that looks like a normal scene

[glacial vessel]

oh

well uh

the building avatar?

do i just give it time

[night ember]

just switch to one tab then back to builder

[pine valley]

If the editor isn't frozen, but the "Building Avatar" screen is still up --

yeah, or maybe close the SDK window

This happens to be when I build and test a world on my Mac. It fails to launch VRChat, so the control panel gets stuck

[glacial vessel]

i cant click on anything

[pine valley]

If the editor is frozen, give it time to work

although, it should be showing a popup window if it's busy

[glacial vessel]

yeah uh ill give it awhile and if i t still doesnt do anything ill try reuploading

thanks

its finishing nww

[pine valley]

It's possible that the popup wound up behind another window, or off-screen, or whatever

The first upload takes a while. Unity has to compile a bunch of shaders.

Each combination of settings (e.g. "spot light used" vs "no spot light used") has to be compiled separately

In the editor, you're only using a few combinations, but for the build, it has to do every possible combination

thus, big numbers

It only has to do this once unless the shaders get changed

[sour sparrow]

so in blender, theres an option for setting an image texture to have no alpha like in this screenshot, is there any way to be able to do this in unity?

[night ember]

No alpha as in like no transparency or

I forgot what that setting does

[pine valley]

what are you trying to do?

completely ignore the alpha channel of an image that you're importing?

[sour sparrow]

yeah

[pine valley]

there's an importer setting for that

set the Alpha Source to "None"

[sour sparrow]

thank you

[pine valley]

related tangent: "Alpha Is Transparency" doesn't affect how shaders interpret the texture at all -- it just does two things:

• It makes the texture preview look transparent
• It spread colors into transparent areas to prevent weird artifacts from appearing when sampling at the edges

i used to think it was magically needed to make shaders go transparent at all

[sour sparrow]

i did that but its still having this weird effect, im trying to get the areas that are shown here to be black

[night ember]

Funny how shaders take priority

[pine valley]

Look at the actual colors in the preview window for the texture asset.

The preview window might be collapsed -- click on it to reveal it, if so

That's what the shader is going to see.

[sour sparrow]

i see

[trim shale]

so its the shoe thats the problem not in unity

[trim shale]

i found a file of them in a discord server and they dont ahave a armature its just the mesh there was a parent empty game object but i deleted it bc where are you susposed to put one thing for shoes

i didnt make them

[sour sparrow]

sorry i keep coming back but anyone know how to make it so with vrc fury if i do a specific gesture it toggles something else?

[hazy quest]

Change avatar scale using a toggle?
Without the default slider.

[digital pelican]

Hello everyone, Is anyone able to provide some help ? I am trying to chance face textures but whenever i swap them i am unable to upload, there is no errors no nothing, the Build & Publish changes into Fix the issues above even tho no new issues showed up. First time having this issue

[somber sequoia]

scroll up in that "review any alerts" section? if it tells you to fix something, surely there's something to fix...

[digital pelican]

Thats the thing

THere is not

Idk ill try restarting the thing

[somber sequoia]

yeah that's really weird - maybe it's an error in the console instead?

[digital pelican]

The face has two materials where one is called Alpha and honestly i am not sure what thats about

Restarting actually fixed it

Ig unity was being moody

[somber sequoia]

hah, figures.

[digital pelican]

Thanks for replaying anyway

Salute

[drifting bay]

sorry, can someone help me, I have the new user range but it still doesn't work

hello?

[junior void]

That the only and first error? Cutting away too much

[drifting bay]

there is more here

[heavy zephyr]

Missing scripts on the object "knucklesfinal(clone)"

[drifting bay]

okay thanks i don't see this

[edgy spindle]

Need help with avatar’s willing to do as much as about ANYTHING if anyone can help

[heavy zephyr]

Don't ask to ask, just say what's wrong

[sour sparrow]

are you answering my question or are you saying smth else

[somber sequoia]

doesn't seem like it answers your question

[frail drift]

are there a free retopology addon that makes it way easier pls help 💀

[somber sequoia]

Yes, I just saw a bunch of hits when doing a web search for "free blender retopology"

[frail drift]

idk bro i dont know any lol

[somber sequoia]

PolyQuilt comes to mind.

did you even try a web search though?

[frail drift]

i find something called reqmeshify

[somber sequoia]

does it work well?

[frail drift]

it auto makes it but it doesnt makes it perfect

[somber sequoia]

I wouldn't expect anything perfect, even if you pay for such a tool

[frail drift]

the small parts of body looks too low quality since middle looks fine

[frail drift]

the meshes looks weird and which makes texturing bad looking

[edgy spindle]

I need help publishing the PNG avatars for quest but the transparency isn’t compatible and i have ti use vrchat mobile lightings BUT OTHER people can publish it with perfect lighting

[heavy zephyr]

That sentence doesn't make sense, you're talking about transparency and lighting which are two different things.

Transparency is bad for mobile GPUs, try to avoid it as much as possible. Lighting is a different issue, you can use the new standard lite shader in the mobile section and get really good lighting results.

[edgy spindle]

And thsi is y i need help ur not understanding what im trying to say

Has anyone in here every uploaded a PNG avatar for quest?

[ornate stump]

They answer your question correctly. If you think it wasn't then you'd have to point out where was wrong.

[edgy spindle]

I pointed out what was wrong i rather find a person who has knowledge with PNG avatars

[somber meadow]

You need to make a specific mesh cutout from the PNG for it to work on Quest properly

[edgy spindle]

How do i do that

[somber meadow]

you can convert PNGs to SVGs then import them into blender

[edgy spindle]

SVG?

I dmed u mr @somber meadow

[broken bone]

Or you can import the texture to a plane and cut it out yourself with the knife tool

[edgy spindle]

Ive tried that is there a faster wya

Way*

[broken bone]

Yeah, the SVG way

[ornate stump]

Do you actually mean "vectorize" and not just embed raster into svg?

[edgy spindle]

Holy shit

I just need help

It rlly shouldn’t b this difficult

[ornate stump]

You also need patience.

[edgy spindle]

It’s a simple thing mr @somber meadow Understood exactly what i meant

I’m sorry you guys didn’t

But this is so ridiculous unity is so dumb

[broken bone]

we understand what you mean. You just don't understand what we mean

welcome to 3D art

[heavy zephyr]

If it's not difficult why do you need help?- I swear people take time to answer questions and you still get impatient.

TLDR, cut the mesh

[edgy spindle]

This is NOT what i mean

[edgy spindle]

"It Shouldn’t b this difficult is what i said and i referred to asking for help 😑 “

[balmy barn]

pc have it easymode , questies learn blender and use the knife tool

[edgy spindle]

Exactly

Ty Thulen

But im not a genius on blender and its not a one step part

[heavy zephyr]

I love when people don't recognize sarcasm

[broken bone]

[edgy spindle]

Import the photo u just cutout into unity is even worse

[heavy zephyr]

Your whole problem could've been resolved by tiping "how to use the knife tool in blender" in google

[placid mica]

No better time to start learning, then

[edgy spindle]

Not even that

Ive tried that

And it didnt even work

[edgy spindle]

Teach me your king 🤦🏽‍♀️

[edgy spindle]

🤦🏽‍♀️ this is vr chat

Not blender @heavy zephyr

[placid mica]

People are trying to teach you but you refuse to listen to the answer besides the one you want to hear

[ornate stump]

You have to create cutout mesh in blender.

[edgy spindle]

Ik dude

But im saying

I’m not so good ay blenxdr

Or unity

[heavy zephyr]

First result, takes 5 seconds. You're just failing to understand the very simple concept we are trying to tell you.

[edgy spindle]

So when i made my cutout in blender

And exported it

It still didnt work

[edgy spindle]

How about you teach me then KIRIAN

[placid mica]

Then try again. You have to learn how to do it but you’re unwilling

[edgy spindle]

Try again?

[broken bone]

"it didn't work" is not helpful. In what way did it not work?

[edgy spindle]

My goodness gracious

[placid mica]

Not everything is gonna work the first time, yes.

[edgy spindle]

Id rather sum1 show me then ppl who r not specific in videos

[placid mica]

Yeah of course. Everyone would prefer that

[edgy spindle]

I cutout the mesh

Cardboard mesh

Imported it into unity

Tried to uploaf it

And it wouldn’t work

But sum other guy did the EXACT SAME THING

And it worked

🤦🏽‍♀️

[heavy zephyr]

If this is ragebait, it's insanely effective

[placid mica]

Fr

[edgy spindle]

Holy dog shit

[ornate stump]

It always be some different steps you didn't know or notice.

[edgy spindle]

Wow ren

Mayb thas y im here

🤔

[heavy zephyr]

Let's try again.

When you have an issue, share screenshots, show your setup, give details. So far you've been very vague, complained more than anything else and the description of steps you took give us nothing to actually help you with.

[somber sequoia]

it'd help if you explain your export process, then also what "didn't work" means exactly. It's really hard to help with no details as to what was being done.

[ornate stump]

People always complains just like that and I checked to confirm they often missed some thing in video.

[left gull]

also if you're not willing to learn or find it too frustrating theres always the option of commissioning someone to do it for you

[edgy spindle]

Let’s try again

Help me and stop chatting

[somber sequoia]

no, we'll continue chatting if we want to chat

[placid mica]

Wow

[ornate stump]

Is Blanke helping you now though? You should be focusing on him instead of arguing in this channel.

[heavy zephyr]

Alright, I'm putting this one into the ragebait bin

[edgy spindle]

I want sum1 to teach me not a indian dude on youtube who just wants to clickbait

[edgy spindle]

U haven’t helped

So idrc what u do

[ornate stump]

And I don't offer help in dm. So don't send friend request.

[edgy spindle]

I’ll send it again

[somber sequoia]

Again, provide more detail. I have not done the thing you are asking about, so I didn't think I could provide any useful help.

[edgy spindle]

Go have tea and cookies

[somber sequoia]

not sure why you're picking on me, I was trying to help you help us help you.

[placid mica]

What a rude and narcissistic man. Dont expect people to give you their time and help you when you choose to be so rude to everyone. Be an adult.

[edgy spindle]

Us?

[somber sequoia]

I do want tea and cookies though, that sounds like a great idea.

[edgy spindle]

there is no us

[left gull]

nobody is going to do free in-depth 1-1 teaching especially if you're just gonna act out at people

[somber sequoia]

us - nobody can help you if you don't provide details about what you are doing.

[edgy spindle]

Assuming my gender?

[heavy zephyr]

You seem to be asking a bit much haha

[edgy spindle]

I’ma stud?

[heavy zephyr]

Anyone still not convinced this is ragebait?

[edgy spindle]

Dude

I just need help and if u aren’t gonna do it Kirian VR

Dont talk to me

[placid mica]

Unfortunately i think you’re right 😂

[edgy spindle]

Oh wow

[left gull]

i think its just someone that's easily irritable rather then ragebait icl

[edgy spindle]

Ur the one who assumes peoples gender

Aren’t u

[somber sequoia]

yeah just someone that seems annoyed they didn't immediately get the exact right answer to the questions they didn't actually ask

[heavy zephyr]

Looks like a textbook example to me ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[edgy spindle]

I dont think its hard to take time out ur day to dm me show me what to do N that’s literally it

But instead i get sum1 who ASSUMES MY GENDER then i have a kirian guy

Idek

[balmy barn]

you wasting alot of words not seeing you doing anything

[edgy spindle]

Speaking nonsense

[edgy spindle]

Actually im here for a reason

[placid mica]

I wouldn’t bother anymore. Just let them continue to figure it out since they clearly don’t have the patience for somebody to help them

[edgy spindle]

Ok sir

Ill just find someone i WILL find sum1

Ridiculous

Enjoy ur day u lunatics

[placid mica]

Okay. Good luck!

[somber sequoia]

I hope you solve your problems.

ok that was uncalled for

[placid mica]

What a child.

[rough crow]

i was about to ask for help until i read some crazy argument..

[edgy spindle]

What a grown women with no job

[heavy zephyr]

Do feel free, that's what we're here for!

[placid mica]

Anyways, that sucked. Dont worry about it Cosmic, ask away

[somber sequoia]

oh feel free to still ask, this is just a tangent.

[edgy spindle]

U aint here for crap

[rough crow]

3 replies at once holy crap

[edgy spindle]

Dont ask him for nothing