avatar-help

[compact dust]

rotating the bones shouldnt do anything

mess anything up i mean

[round comet]

so rotating it is fine?

[balmy barn]

long as you never merged wont affect other

[round comet]

nope! Not merged

it's just rigged and weightpainted to another base

so I was gonna delete the unneeded bones, aka all of them basically, excluding the ones for the dress

then just parent those bones to my main armature after I merge them

[proper storm]

Posing the bones back to tpose in blender will work fine

It wont mess anything else up

Or at least shouldn't

[round comet]

thank you!

if it screws something up, I'll just start over haha

model just special, cuz she a nice custom body sculpt I've been working on today

[proper storm]

Just make sure its like actually on point tpose, like rotated 90° perfectly

[round comet]

ok!!

[proper storm]

If not you get the same issue

[round comet]

I see

how can I make sure?

do I fix it in pose mode or edit mode? :o

I just adjusted it in pose mode

[proper storm]

Pose with edit mode, pose mode is just to test iicr

[round comet]

oh ok

[proper storm]

I dont know thw difference between either imo

[round comet]

doesnt really let me do it in edit mode, but it does in pose

I plan on deleting the bones anyhow excluding a few since this is a whole different base than what the original is rigged to

[nocturne tendon]

question, what does the API Object mean? whats it for?

[somber sequoia]

afaik you can't use that on avatars

[nocturne tendon]

what?

what do you mean i cant?

is it broken now or something?

[somber sequoia]

no I mean you can't call scripts and such on avatars so that API object, if it's what I think it is, isn't useful

[nocturne tendon]

oh okay, thanks

[somber sequoia]

gotta say it's amusing that the documentation page for these shows a screenshot with that slot visible but none of the text refers to it at all

[compact dust]

hi kazin

[round comet]

yehhhh didnt work

[dense vine]

I'm trying to get something that slowly follows my spine bone and also rotates with its rotation so like when i move my back it rotates with it. I'm using a spring joint but the issue I'm having is i got the position working just fine but not the rotation what can i do for this?

[nocturne tendon]

why is it that when i have colliders applied to my station script, it wont let me upload the avatar?

[somber meadow]

if you're uploading for android it'll add the collider for you

[balmy barn]

quick add a sweater to xbot , import , pose, apply rest pose, delete its bones, merge, seperate by material, find sweater remove vertex groups, transfer weight from xbot , pose it now follows model (dont do this to a outfit where you want to keep some bones , you can just merge that and remove empty bone/vertex groups after if it uses humanoid bones it will use the one on model and rename oold too .001 something

[heavy zephyr]

Doesn't do anything on avatars and can be safely ignored. Pretty sure this isn't even used in worlds anymore.

[somber sequoia]

ah that'd explain it not being mentioned in the docs

[muted wing]

i’m low key confused like how does this work

like ik to put it in unity but it’s just a blank model

[somber sequoia]

no idea what those are without file extensions

[muted wing]

hol on

[proper storm]

can you send the link (for the asset) if its something you bought

just looking at like 2 images with random files and textures isnt enough

[muted wing]

oh yeah one sec lemme find it

[muted wing]

https://booth.pm/ja/items/954376

[round comet]

Picked my hair @compact dust

[compact dust]

1 1 1

[compact dust]

:O

[round comet]

This gamur

[compact dust]

bootiful

[round comet]

I still own the other two LOL but I’ll figure out where to use em

[compact dust]

do you know anything about the zinpia male base btw

[compact dust]

toggles!

[round comet]

I don’t own it, but ik abt zinpia stuff

[compact dust]

im looking for a suit to fit the zinpia male base

cannot find one

[round comet]

You may honestly just have to whip open blender and sculpt something

Or ask in some avatar servers

[compact dust]

hrmm

[round comet]

I found some suit

Fitted to the male base

[compact dust]

oo

gimme link

[round comet]

I’ll dm it

[muted wing]

how does this work like.. fbx do i need to download a shader or sum

[round comet]

You probably have to make materials

[muted wing]

how do i do that…

i’ll translate the read me and see if it’s useful

[compact dust]

clothes dont need finger bones if they arent related to fingers do they

[somber sequoia]

nah

I only include the bones that are actually used in weight painting

[nocturne tendon]

Thank you, managed to do what i wanted without any errors though but yeah seats are awesome!

[static bough]

did you import liltoon?

also there should be a prefab somewhere

[muted wing]

i did not

[muted wing]

yeah i was looking i cannot find one

[static bough]

download lil toon on the same site and import

[muted wing]

alr alr

i genuinely cannot find a prefab

[static bough]

show me screenshots of the folders she imported with

import shaders first tho tbh

[muted wing]

this might help, if not i can show the whole folder it’s a pile of just dif styles

and the read me is in like hieroglyphics

[static bough]

no no in unity

[muted wing]

ohhh ok

one sec

[static bough]

like the main folder, where the model is etc

[proper storm]

if you click the fbx, there is a option to extract materials

and then make a folder for them

works faster then dragging them on manually

unless they have custom shader on them, it will use the unity one by default

[muted wing]

uhhh, there wasn’t rlly a model except nbody

[proper storm]

i usually extract materials

[muted wing]

i’m just loading unity again

[proper storm]

and then put the one I like onto them

[muted wing]

ok one sec

[static bough]

uh, weird, did you import all the unity packages?

[static bough]

we're trying to find the model first

apparently its just the base without a head

[proper storm]

can they check it in blender?

if there is no head then thats a issue on the creators side more like

[static bough]

it is an older model so who knows

[muted wing]

i’m getting this one sec

[static bough]

wow uh

okay

yeah you might need blender as alex said

unless someone else owns her and can explain whats happening

[muted wing]

ok. i do have blender

[muted wing]

i did i’m p sure

[proper storm]

you cant drag unity packages into blender, so youll have to do the fbx and check on that

[static bough]

alex help

[proper storm]

i mean

[static bough]

[proper storm]

maybe check the heirarchy for the head?

maybe the material is invalid

[static bough]

well its just nbody which with this creator is just the blank base

[proper storm]

weird

[static bough]

it should have like the body body too

[proper storm]

also could be that the transform isnt right, I exported a rusk from blender once and this happened

[muted wing]

i just extracted this one and it was materials and textures

[proper storm]

i kept it as a learning experience lmfao

but

seems like the same issue

imo

[static bough]

well since its just the base without its clothes and stuff thats also an issue

[proper storm]

yeah

[static bough]

i guess gotta do it in blender

see whats going up

[muted wing]

my homie has like 1200 hrs on blender i can see if he knows how to work it😭

[proper storm]

probably because its written in jp

[muted wing]

yeah! i translated it and its nothing

[proper storm]

yeah idk that much shit probably better you ask someone who knows more, but very odd

[muted wing]

yeah idk where tf the prefab is

[proper storm]

so the unicode from it doesnt translate either?

[muted wing]

i can try other styles like it has other styles but they low key weird 😭 😭 😭 😭

[proper storm]

well the two 3d obj files are the fbxs so you can put those into blender and see whats up

[muted wing]

ok ok

(which files )

[proper storm]

3d obj files

[muted wing]

ok lemme send them to my friend

ofc he’s off rn i’ll js do it one sec

[muted wing]

since this one is old would i maybe have to use the old unity or

[timid kite]

how do people make chain materials that literally emit light?

[muted wing]

word soup

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure what a "chain material" is but generally use a shader that has an emission property

[timid kite]

when i select all materials to change them all at once (and yes i already unlocked them) it doesnt let me edit. why?

[somber sequoia]

what does it do instead?

[timid kite]

just grey

[ornate stump]

Can you select only two or three materials and change it?

[somber sequoia]

you clipped the top unfortunately. But yeah, probably one of the materials is locked or different somehow

[timid kite]

yep found them ty

[spark walrus]

i have models that ive downloaded i was wondering if any of you guys willing to just add physics to the hair, boobs, and ofc eye blinking/movement and toggles ?

[ornate stump]

Couldn't you do that yourself?

[spark walrus]

no i don’t have a pc!

[ornate stump]

There won't be even a few people willing to do it for free.

[prisma frigate]

I would but I forgot how to add physics. I haven't uploaded avatars for a long time.

Let alone don't have motivation to-

[formal sparrow]

does anyone know how to help me with audio stuff, i want to play an audio when i toggle something then another audio 0.9 seconds after i toggled it on, but the first audio is longer then 0.9. does anyone know any ways to dothis?

[somber sequoia]

trigger two layers based on that variable change, one has a 0.9 second delay before doing the next step

Or..... just use one animation

put the second audio clip trigger at .9 seconds instead of 0.0

[formal sparrow]

ill try

im new so im prolly gonna mess it up 🙏

[somber sequoia]

gotta break eggs to make an omelette

[formal sparrow]

very true

so why cant i edit my animation 🥀

oh my god im so stupid.

[somber sequoia]

gotta start somewhere 🙂

[formal sparrow]

ok well

i used the animation that u sugegsted

[formal sparrow]

this

and uh it only playes one.. 😭

[pale coyote]

hello, i can help you with that

[somber sequoia]

sus.

[ornate stump]

Didn't even read. Definitely a scammer.

[prisma frigate]

No no.. It's fine. I haven't been motivated in avatar work in forever and I don't really wanna get back into it. Thank you though

[prisma frigate]

Them or me?

[somber sequoia]

them

[ornate stump]

Them.

[prisma frigate]

Okay. I was about to say-

[formal sparrow]

@somber sequoia is this what u ment by the single animation?

also the goo and crack are the audio sources

[somber sequoia]

sure

[formal sparrow]

cause it doesnt work 🥀

it only plays one of them

[somber sequoia]

I was just offering ideas on things to try

[formal sparrow]

ah

[frigid void]

Is anyone good at editing textures? I have a head texture and I need help just changing the lips/blush color

[west kestrel]

anybody able to figure out why the avi's legs move like this when in play mode? in setup/blender its perfectly set, in gesture manager and in game the legs shift. i do not know why. Any help would be lovely!!!!!!!!!!!

[compact dust]

thats the idle anim

its normal

[proper storm]

locomotion is setup like that

you have to go into the blendtrees and change the locomotion

[compact dust]

erm if you cant decimate a mesh with shape keys how do you lower the tris

nvm i got it

[proper storm]

unsubdivide?

its a mesh option

[compact dust]

yeah i tried doing the edit mode decimate instead which worked

[somber sequoia]

edit mode, mesh -> clean up -> decimate

[compact dust]

yeppers

modifier doesnt allow for it with shape keys but edit mode does, even tho its the same thing ?

idk

[somber sequoia]

yeah they work very differently

[compact dust]

gets a similar product tho it seems

[somber sequoia]

yeah, the edit mode one is newish

[west kestrel]

how would one go about that?

[compact dust]

go into the blendtrees and change the locomotion

[proper storm]

in action layer

[somber sequoia]

in the base layer, probably.

[proper storm]

first motion option

is the idle

[somber sequoia]

huh action, I didn't think it was there.

[proper storm]

i meant base, sorry

[somber sequoia]

ha!

okay 🙂

[compact dust]

ok do people actually paint in blender with a mouse

its atrocious

[proper storm]

yes

[somber sequoia]

I use a tablet for any painting

[compact dust]

yeh thats what i'd do if it worked with my software

[somber sequoia]

what kind of weird tablet do you have?

[compact dust]

its not the tablet 😭

[somber sequoia]

so not blender then?

[compact dust]

no i do not use blender to make models

im not smart enough for blender modeling

[somber sequoia]

I figured we were still talking about painting in blender

[compact dust]

oopsies

you can get blender on a tablet?

or do you plug it in

im so not nerd.

[somber sequoia]

by tablet I meant an old-school Wacom drawing tablet with a pen

like literally old enough that the only Windows drivers are for 7

[compact dust]

oldie

if i was doing a toggle that switches a png with a 3d object i'd just hide/toggle them right

that's such a dumb question ._.

[blazing finch]

A friend of mine is hitting a TLS handshake error on upload. What would cause this? She has tried clearing the blueprint, restarting unity, reauthenticating into her account, none of these works

[astral atlas]

What would stop a head pat receiver from not moving bones or playing shapekeys? only the particles emit. Phy is mark animated.

[astral atlas]

Okay, so it plays once then stops working

[blazing finch]

Could stop working for any number of reasons. Check the exit condition on the state and make sure it's disabling on exit. Verify the animation state in the avatar debug menu in-game

[ornate stump]

Probably need to check for time and region settings. Especially when auto update time is disable.

[blazing finch]

What settings? In the VRC control panel, or unity project?

[broken glade]

I've turned down minimum brightness to 0 on this hair but for some reason its still set to max in game ? anyone know why?

[ornate stump]

Windows settings.

[blazing finch]

How would that affect upload? She has never messed with her system time settings

[ornate stump]

TLS is a way for any application to connect to server securely. Failing TLS can be caused by many reasons, one common reason is time misalign.

[blazing finch]

Her last upload succeeded earlier today. No meddling with time in the interim

[ornate stump]

Better double check if it's correct.

[ornate stump]

The light probably came from something else. Check for rimlight, matcap, emission, etc.

[blazing finch]

She says it is still the correct time

[ornate stump]

Also timezone?

[blazing finch]

Yes, everything is auto adjusted

I'm looking at her screen

[ornate stump]

Then that would be some uncommon cause. But this's beyond my knowledge.

[thin schooner]

hey all! im havin some issues where if i go into the gesturemanager or run a test this monstrosity appears was wonder how i can fix this!

[ornate stump]

Your FBX export settings didn't match with previous export.

[thin schooner]

ahhh gothca, anyway to remedy this?

still very new in the realms of this

[ornate stump]

Did you actually export the model from blender?

[thin schooner]

the fbx was exported from blender and i went thru file explorer to repleace the old one and give it the same name as the old one

[ornate stump]

The export settings was incorrect. Commonly it's Apply Scalings has to be "FBX All".

[thin schooner]

is that in blender or unity where i change that to FBX All?

[ornate stump]

When exporting it's always from blender.

[thin schooner]

gotcha i'll try that

[thin schooner]

worked flawlessly thank ya so much!

[blazing finch]

Yeah this is irritating. I've even had some API logs expanded, no missing data that would suggest there was a server error that somehow ended in an auth error. Doesn't seem like any of the other common TLS issues cover this case either - no firewall changes made, web requests not processed through a browser

I had her file a ticket to VRC, hopefully they get back soon

[full furnace]

HI. If I need my avatar to look differently on PC and Quest, do I need to like make a copy of it in Unity (have 2 avatars in one scene) to be able to edit both versions independently?

[ornate stump]

It isn't necessary to be in the same scene. Just however you can have 2 different models with same blueprint ID.

[full furnace]

I see. Cheers o7

Another question (sorry 😅 ).

I just used a VRCQuestTools thingy to questify my avatar. And I see this message

Is it a problem? I am not sure what it means

I can see my 2 version just fine, so I don't see whats the problem

[idle jetty]

I'm trying to upload an avi that I Purchased but it seems to be getting stuck when compiling shaders. Anyway I can fix it?

[frail temple]

Think it means you need to download NDMF

[frail temple]

post picture

[full furnace]

Why though? Everything is working fine

I'll to it just in case though.

[frail temple]

Honestly I've never used avatar optimisers but after googling it looks like it should come with it

[idle jetty]

It actually ended up working thankfully!

[full furnace]

What texture painter tool would you folks recommend for a total beginner? It can be paid as long as it's a one-time purchase rather thana sub

I would be doing it on a PC with my mouse, without any fancy-pants tools artists use

[still shuttle]

I use substance painter, its a one-time purchase of $200 on steam
A little pricey but worth it with what you can do

[half moth]

for substance painter specifically I would actually recommend the subscription over the perpetual license on Steam. what you get with the subscription makes up for the additional cost over time especially if you end up making extensive use of the software

also considering that you get both substance painter and substance designer, which would be $400 to get both on Steam vs $20/month on subscription

[full furnace]

Hmm. Sounds like a wiser choice indeed.

Cheers!

[half moth]

the subscription also gives you access to the Substance library with a ton of materials you can license at no extra cost, and of course feature upgrades when new versions come out that you'd have to buy at full price on Steam if you want them

I realise I'm probably sounding like an Adobe shill here, but this really is the one piece of software I'd actually recommend the subscription model for over its perpetual license option

[vocal dew]

Hey can someone help me with getting VCC on my Mac lol I know it’s possible but I’m not a computer guy so idk what I’m doing

[somber sequoia]

I'd agree with you except I run it on Linux, which the Steam version supports perfectly, I didn't see that option for the Adobe one.

[pine valley]

You can't use the VCC. I believe ALCOM (an alternative client) works on macOS.

I just use the VPM directly.

[somber sequoia]

Yeah, I also just use vpm directly (linux)

[pine valley]

I had some trouble getting it to recognize my Unity installs

and it emits a few confusing warnings every time I run it

it's fiiiiine

[somber sequoia]

same - but I just don't bother, it doesn't actually matter. You don't need to use it to make new projects.

[pine valley]

I should probably just remove and reinstall it. I'm pretty sure it's gotten updates since then

[somber sequoia]

still broken last I checked

oh there's a newer one than I had though

I wonder if they have a published changelog for this

[vocal dew]

But it says I can I just need a vpm or whatnot

[somber sequoia]

https://vcc.docs.vrchat.com/vpm/cli/

[vocal dew]

Can some one like friend me and call me and walk me through it lol I’m slow

[somber sequoia]

read that

if you can't do that, go get alcom instead.

[vocal dew]

Will Alcom work like unity or smth?

[somber sequoia]

no, it's a tool for managing vrchat projects, you still need Unity

[vocal dew]

And it will still let me upload to vrchat

[somber sequoia]

you do that in Unity

[vocal dew]

Will it be ok if we can call? I’m incredibly slow

[somber sequoia]

I don't do that, sorry.

[vocal dew]

Sigh ok

Let me think then

Cause idk anything abt avi creating

[somber sequoia]

here, this seems like it'd be better for you: https://vrc-get.anatawa12.com/en/alcom/

oh

then you probably want to start by watching some tutorials on the subject. VRChat's got lots of creator docs too.

Also friending someone who's just provided a small bit of advice seems kinda weird.

[desert elk]

yeah, a lot of people do that, but it's kinda weird

[somber sequoia]

yeah I ignore them all

[vocal dew]

I mean not really like sure we just met but I’m better verbally then texting so that’s my reason why

I can see how it’s weird but at the same time you’ll live

Trust and believe 💜

[civic field]

Definitely substance painter, learn the importance and usage of mesh maps, and then get into procedural stuff to get the most bang for your buck.

[idle pawn]

henlow!! i was wondering if anyone knows how to make a grabbable prop with vrcfury??

[compact dust]

world drop option in toggle

idk about making it grabbable tho

[idle pawn]

basically like- i wanna be able to grab a heart prop from my chest and have it in my right hand

with particles and all

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure I'd use VRC Fury for any part of that.

[balmy barn]

reciver detect hand + left or right gesture , constraint to hand wich it detects (exsample here also detects head and attached to it)

[idle pawn]

but i have no unity knowledge whatsoever, i only use vrcfury

[balmy barn]

time to learn, you can do very basic things with vrcfury

[idle pawn]

i know

[somber sequoia]

Yeah you'll need more than fury for this.

[idle pawn]

will it mess up the avi to have both vrcfury and regular unity stuff?

[somber sequoia]

not at all

[balmy barn]

id learn how to detect hand using a reciver then change color first (easy step)

[compact dust]

what the heck is this black magic

[somber sequoia]

use it where it makes sense, don't for what it doesn't do.

[idle pawn]

now i got another question, how would that work to make it quest compatible?

i know it's possible

[balmy barn]

its quest compitable

[idle pawn]

alright, i tried to look at tutorials and all but it didn't say

[balmy barn]

older one wich used constraints wouldnt work, but just replace when they say that with vrc constraint

[idle pawn]

so instead of using Parent Constraint, i should use VRC Parent Constraint?

[balmy barn]

vrc constraints works on pc & quest and you can have quite alot of them

thats quest , much more on pc

[idle pawn]

alr, i'll try to make it work but if it don't, i might need someone to help on a call

where do i find the fx layer of my avi?

[somber sequoia]

see in the VRC Avatar Descriptor, under "Playable Layers"

[idle pawn]

says customize

[somber sequoia]

If nothing is in the slot then you don't have one and it's using the default.

[idle pawn]

then how do i find the default?

[somber sequoia]

you don't, you make a new one

[idle pawn]

oh

is the fx layer an animator controller ?

[somber sequoia]

yes

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/playable-layers/

[idle pawn]

do i really need to create a parameter to toggle the prop? i want it to be there constantly

[somber sequoia]

no, if you don't want to you don't have to

[idle pawn]

okiw

[steady nimbus]

Why is that, when i apply animations to a phys bone for a toggle the phys bones break, they don't act properly, they invert and are too stiff, i have no clue, ive tried everything and its only when there is animations applied, the IsAnimated thing is turned on, its on base physbone stats, but its not working properly

[magic willow]

In blender, after I edit my base's fbx and import it into unity after sculpting, it just disappears in unity, the package isn't unpacked

[compact dust]

show

[steady nimbus]

So the settings for the phys bones

[compact dust]

isnt that a kinda big collision raidus

[limber kindle]

Is it possible to copy setup from 1 animation controller to another?

[compact dust]

i think the pumpkin tools or wtv can do that

idk what the exact name is tho

[limber kindle]

I think Ive heard of that, I figured it out though lol. I was right click and pressing copy current state machine when all I had to do is copy paste regularly!!

[idle pawn]

how do i test the contact grab ? can gesture manager do that?

[steady nimbus]

Not really

[unreal pasture]

whats this?

wont go away

[somber sequoia]

animation controllers are files on disk, you can copy them

[balmy barn]

if you are using blendtree's you can copy paste them into another controller and their parameters also comes along (renames to whatever 0 , if already exsisting) , think thats a DreadScripts - CopyCutPaste thing , avatar 3.0 manager have a copy things from one controller to another

[unreal pasture]

found out theres more they are so much

[idle pawn]

i still didn't figure it out-

i just noticed that the hands don't move when i use the gestures, so like- it doesn't turn into fist, peace sign, etc

is this normal?

[frail temple]

sounds like a weight painting issue, did you weight paint the fingers?

or maybe a rig issue, did you check the bones for both hands

[idle pawn]

they're weight painted already, it's a base lol

[desert elk]

do you have a gesture layer?

[idle pawn]

but uh lemme check that

[idle pawn]

default one

[frail temple]

most likely then unity didnt recognize the bones correctly

check the prefab rig

[desert elk]

can you screenshot it please?

[idle pawn]

it's a gesture manager issue

[desert elk]

can you screenshot it please?

[idle pawn]

i used av3 emulator or whatever and it works now

[desert elk]

if you have both active at the same time it could cause issues

[idle pawn]

i yeeted gesture manager

[desert elk]

okay

[idle pawn]

how do i check in unity if the heart grab works?

[unreal pasture]

why when i drag clothing on my feet go

[desert elk]

drag?

[idle pawn]

check the blendshapes of the body

[desert elk]

in the scene view or the hierarchy?

you shouldn't drag meshes in the hierarchy

[limber kindle]

Sorry for phrasing the question weirdly! xD

[unreal pasture]

how else im gonna get clothes on my avatar

[compact dust]

yo eli you know what dis is

[idle pawn]

blender

[desert elk]

i meant not unpacking your prefab

and draging stuff included in your avatar's fbx around

which is something that it looks like you did

you should never unpack your prefab

you can attach clothes in blender or unity or witht vrcfury

[unreal pasture]

i should because it makes me lose all my progress if i ctrl z once

[desert elk]

none require unpacking the prefab

[compact dust]

then dont make mistakes

[desert elk]

you should never unpack

[somber sequoia]

that's very strange

[unreal pasture]

so helpful

[desert elk]

we're trying to be helpful

unpacking causes issues

[somber sequoia]

unpacking is a one-way trip to future annoyance

[desert elk]

and if you did stuff while the avi was unpacked obviously it will not carry over if you somehow repack it

and it will reset

[idle pawn]

how do i make the hand colliders move ? i need to check if the collider works

[unreal pasture]

well why it only affect my feet nothing else

[somber sequoia]

I usually make a small sphere and put a contact sender and collider on it, then use that in play mode to poke at things to see their reactions.

[compact dust]

it should be constrained to the hand bone or smt like that

[idle pawn]

yes but i need to make it move

[desert elk]

doesn't it follow your hand bone?

[idle pawn]

cuz it's the hand collider made by vrc that needs to touch the collider i made

i'm in unity, it don't move

[limber kindle]

Sorry I think this should be an easy question but im having trouble searching
If I have blink blendshapes enabled how do I make them not animate when im using a hand gesture? I tried animating them with the blink blenshape set to zero but i think the eye look thing is overriding it...

[unreal pasture]

well i just fixed it so nvm nothing to do with unpack

[compact dust]

just wait til vro comes back later with more problems bc of unpacking

[desert elk]

reall

[unreal pasture]

nah

[somber sequoia]

You'd have to disable the automatic blinking with VRC Animator Tracking Control, or any custom blink stuff with a parameter.

[compact dust]

wat dis

[somber sequoia]

don't set the same shape key from multiple animations at the same time

[unreal pasture]

dunno

[compact dust]

me either

[frail temple]

Quick question, i forgot to put on an accessory for an avatar i was porting from a game, should i put the avatar back on blender and put it on the avatar and add it as a blendshape or should i directly put the accessory in the project and set it there?

[unreal pasture]

ok now it working but how can i check if it moves with body

[desert elk]

you can do either

if you didn't unpack that is

[somber sequoia]

go into play mode and move the body around

[desert elk]

cause you can override your avatar

[compact dust]

i hate compiler errors

[unreal pasture]

just dont import random packages

[idle pawn]

can someone tell me how do i check if my contact receiver works with the vrc hand collider?

in unity

[unreal pasture]

??

[frail temple]

i see, second question, i also forgot to put in a knife for the avatar, does the same thing go for it?

[idle pawn]

i'm not pcvr, can't check in game

[somber sequoia]

#avatar-help message

[desert elk]

yes

[frail temple]

perfect, thank you

[desert elk]

that was to DuckDude

[unreal pasture]

my fault

[desert elk]

no worries

[idle pawn]

but it needs to be the hand, not a collider that i made

[pine valley]

this is strictly so you can test it

[somber sequoia]

There's literally no difference in Unity test mode

[limber kindle]

Like this? Sorry I am new to using this

[idle pawn]

oh

i thought there would be

my bad

[somber sequoia]

your hand is just a bone that's got a collider and contact sender on it by default

[pine valley]

I've seen a few situations where one random file goes missing, causing packages to break

[compact dust]

testing smt rq to see if thats it

i have a feelings its this

[idle pawn]

it don't work

the floor grid isn't there anymore, how do i turn it back on?

nvm found it

the collider doesn't work qvq

it worked but like

now it won't work to put it back?

this is so weird

i hate it

[balmy barn]

enable in av3 this if you are using trying to use receivers with custom parameter to do something , sdk 3.7.6+ have no idea if it behaves

its abit wierd sometime it doesnt need it

[idle pawn]

do i need to make a new collider to get it to go from the hand to the chest???

to test if it works

[balmy barn]

av descriptor sets that up on all avatars auto

[idle pawn]

ik

brb

ok so i know it works to grab it but to put it back it doesn't seem to work

[limber kindle]

I tried setting it up like this and it still blinks when I use the expression <_>

[teal field]

i made a toggle and its only turning it on and not off help?

[somber sequoia]

provide details on how you set it up?

[teal field]

i used vrcfury and toggle assistant and neither worked, never had an issue before

[formal sparrow]

anyone know if leviant screen space shadres work with unity 2022? cause if they are supposed to they arent for me

[somber sequoia]

#shaders probably and some detail on what isn't working might help

[formal sparrow]

alright thanks

[frail temple]

Is there a way to unatlas a texture?

[desert elk]

i'd assume you could manually

[half moth]

Depending on how it was atlased, either
1: simply crop it out with Photoshop or gimp or similar, then re-adjust your mesh's UV to take up the whole UV tile, or
2: make a copy of your mesh, repack the UVs to take up the whole tile, and then do a texture transfer bake from the atlassed one to the newly un-atlassed one

[balmy barn]

Select parts you want off a atlas , seperate , grab old texture + its uv merge that somewhere on a new image , move old mesh uv to it , remove uv (just used for aligning) done that a few times , its so not 100% but fast and 'eh' close enough (( exsample using the same image but its the moving part easymode to another image ))

[austere swift]

Is there a way for me to make a puppet avi (it’s a avatar that you move around like a puppet)

[pine valley]

A marionette doll, or more of a hand-puppet?

[green thicket]

Do I need to have Windows dedicated server support and visual studio installed to upload avatars

I’m installing the editor that’s designed for VRChat

Do I also need universal Windows platform build support?

[balmy barn]

pc android ios <

you dont need any of these if installing android support

[green thicket]

I’m uploading it for PC and android

I don’t have the avatar yet, but I’m just preparing my PC for it

Also looking for clothing for it

[frail temple]

gumroads is your friend, although you're gonna have to resize it to fit your avatar

which is another can of worms

[pine valley]

Clothing generally needs to be made for your avatar, barring stuff like hats

[green thicket]

Well, technically, the clothing that I’m looking for is made for the avatar itself actually

[pine valley]

anything form-fitting needs to be very carefully fit to your model

[green thicket]

Because I’m looking for the clothing inside of the server that the avatar is made for

[frail temple]

Quick question, the avatar i've weightpainted and fixed through blender needs transparency for hair textures, how do i achieve that on the quest port? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/730948173379535022/1345703695010238494/image.png?ex=67e527ba&is=67e3d63a&hm=d67fcd8b8e3f977672951e706d3105e52c5b2dea1ecd52be25a18aa6bdd9b176&

since quest limits me to mobile only textures

[half moth]

You don't

Transparency isn't supported on quest

[balmy barn]

if you want to do alot of ALOT of work, go knife tool

(+5000 vertices)

[pine valley]

yeah, i don't think you even get alpha clipping

[frail temple]

oh hey thulen, funny part is this is literally the first question i asked on this discord 3 weeks ago

[half moth]

You get opaque and that's it

[frail temple]

so i have to retexture it myself?

[pine valley]

I wonder if you could paint skin colors onto the parts that should be transparent

SKIN HAIR

[desert elk]

if the parts that need to be transparent are on the face, that could work

[half moth]

I mean yeah if you want a texture that looks good while being opaque, what else are you gonna do

[balmy barn]

shave or do stubbles/lines

lazy mode , put on a helmet

[pine valley]

the issue is that you have that solid hair color on the diagonal, right?

[half moth]

Here it's better to paint some hair onto the skin than the other way around

Painting skin onto the hair mesh is gonna make it look like the skin is sticking out

[pine valley]

yeah, you could shove the hair mesh into the face a bit

and then tint the face

This wouldn't help with the other side, where the hair ends

but you could do a little cutting of the mesh to give it a better shape

[half moth]

p much yeah

The texture looks fine overall just gotta fix the awkward hair card shape

[pine valley]

polygon allocations:

• body mesh: 2000
• clothing mesh: 1000
• hair: 36000

my family is dying, please help me budget this

[balmy barn]

quest hair

[pine valley]

headcrab

[half moth]

Real

[frail temple]

fuck it, fuck quest users

just leave it as is

[compact dust]

lego

[pine valley]

i need to make a new fallback avatar

[half moth]

Bro does not want to put effort into anything

[pine valley]

my current fallback is my main PC model decimated to hell

the fingers are hideous

[compact dust]

look at what i did to leg day skipper 😭
optimization at its finest fr

[half moth]

Check this out

[pine valley]

see, you actually tried

instead of just smashing it with a hammer

huge fan of the 0 bytes of texture memory lmao

I have an avatar with more mesh data than texture data, but I've never gone to zero

[half moth]

Where we're going we don't need textures (we have vertex colours)

[pine valley]

[checks mesh]

[compact dust]

das cute

[pine valley]

[UV0-UV7 are all full]

you can cram 32 floats into every vertex. god is dead.

[compact dust]

hey btw is there a way to do PNGs on quest

[frail temple]

Success?

[pine valley]

I mean, you can use an asset that's stored in the project as a PNG

[half moth]

wdym

[pine valley]

But I'm guessing you mean something else

like a transparent texture on a plane

[compact dust]

floating png, flat image basically

[pine valley]

An image with no transparency is trivial

slap a material on a plane

[frail temple]

I fixed it, You need to do Particles/Alpha Blended as the shader

[compact dust]

i was thinking of doing a material swap on the object

[pine valley]

(or a quad)

[half moth]

Nope (:

[frail temple]

This is quest compatible

[compact dust]

idk how to do that tho with my current knowledge

[pine valley]

that ain't listed in the documentation

https://creators.vrchat.com/platforms/android/quest-content-limitations/

[half moth]

vrcsdk will scold you and convert this to a standard shader

[frail temple]

Come on!! it's in the mobile only shader pack!!

[pine valley]

i'm guessing it used to be allowed

[half moth]

It's for particles only

[frail temple]

fucking hate quest

[pine valley]

or it's just there for use in worlds

[compact dust]

sadge

[half moth]

This is exactly it afaik

[frail temple]

yeah you're right, i thought i did something

[half moth]

People used it as a workaround to get transparency on avatars but it was shut down fairly recently I believe

[wild kiln]

Hey can I see someone to help here?

[frail temple]

no fun allowed

let me crash the people with phones on their heads!!

[pine valley]

if you ask your question, perhaps!

[compact dust]

damn you weight painting 😔

[frail temple]

thx all for the answers

[wild kiln]

I need expert avatar creator to help me?

[half moth]

Just ask your question

[wild kiln]

I'm looking for someone can make me an avatar?

[pine valley]

you're about to receive a large number of DMs from scammers, from what I've been told

haha

[compact dust]

mememe frfr

[balmy barn]

sure that will be 380$ / hour it will take a week

[compact dust]

i need squishmallow money

[pine valley]

I'll do $379

(Plus fees)

[balmy barn]

+taxes and tips , cause 'merica

[wild kiln]

Oh I'm sorry I don't have that?

I just have a little amount

[compact dust]

how much

[wild kiln]

I need who can chat privately?

[balmy barn]

i dont charge nor make avatars , mostly i optimize friends one randomly thats about it , been asked to make stuff but i really dont want too nor care about money

[somber sequoia]

ignore all of this - head over to the VR Traders discord instead, link is in #1204490664637890580

[compact dust]

optimization nerd?

[drifting current]

Anyone know how to make a seat, that when someone sits on it. it shrinks them to what you want?

[balmy barn]

If i see them wearing a 100mb+ av i will yell at them, why

[compact dust]

_>
my like 470mb one that i didnt realize was that big

[balmy barn]

used to be able to shrink station and anyone on it would , not sure that works anymore (animation shrink hip they went tiny i think, been a few years)

[compact dust]

its ok tho bc i dont use it

[wild kiln]

If you can do this chat me privately

[drifting current]

Going on the shrinking part do you just shrink the seat in a animation or how does that work?

[compact dust]

dms are closed

[somber sequoia]

seriously, you're going to get people trying to scam you here, don't trust them.

[compact dust]

am i trustworthy kazin

[somber sequoia]

are you a verified creator on vrc traders?

[compact dust]

no cuz im not in ze server

[somber sequoia]

I guess I don't know then

[wild kiln]

Then DM me?

[compact dust]

closed dms

[wild kiln]

Good bye
I'll find someone else?

[compact dust]

how am i supposed to dm you if your dms are closed lil bro

[wild kiln]

Thanks 😊

[compact dust]

anyways

[wild kiln]

I have add you

I think I will trust you

[compact dust]

i hath no fr

[wild kiln]

Good bye 👋

[compact dust]

💀

[mental estuary]

Actual AI

[compact dust]

i have no friend request therefore he leaves

[wild kiln]

I think someone else will help me 🤣🤣

[compact dust]

its not my fault you dont understand

[idle pawn]

henlow ! me again! anyone knows/has good tuts on how to create a particle system for when a collider gets triggered?

[compact dust]

you can look up a "boop" tutorial and just apply it how needed

everything should be basically the same

[idle pawn]

oh okiw

tyty!

[round comet]

Dawg you are wildly suspicious

Just stop trying to manipulate

[compact dust]

hi bunni

[round comet]

Hi

[dreamy grail]

firstname-bunchofnumbers acts like a bot, who could've guessed

[frail temple]

honestly i think it's somebody using google translate

[desert elk]

nah

doesn't seem like it

[idle pawn]

anyone knows how to use the basic dynamics thingy by rafa? it says 'object reference not set to an instance of an object'

idk what that means

[pine valley]

that means that it can't find something – e.g. it needs you to assign an object in the inspector, but you didn't

[idle pawn]

i did tho?

[pine valley]

you'll need to share the actual error, as well as show us what you're doing

[idle pawn]

sure, do i call you or-?

[pine valley]

no, send screenshots in here.

[idle pawn]

oh oki

one sec

[pine valley]

(it's also possible that this is an unrelated error)

i get a fair number of exceptions from the SDK

[idle pawn]

says that

and i'm tryna add headpats and boop contacts to the avi

[compact dust]

ermm how do you merge armatures again, i forgor

[somber meadow]

What're you trying to do, add DLC clothes to an avatar?

[compact dust]

no, custom armature for a jacket for physbones

[mighty cove]

Why does locking face gestures also locks hand gestures on some avis? (Index controllers)

[somber meadow]

as in locking gestures from the action menu?

[mighty cove]

Ye,that or the bind on A button. First time seeing it

[half moth]

Cause they have animations controlling preset finger poses

[mighty cove]

I guess i could change that in unity?

[compact dust]

ok there's gotta be smt wrong with the way i make bones because they never work as intended 💀

[half moth]

You'd just delete them yeah

When you lock hand gestures you're basically locking the hand gesture parameters so whatever animations are currently active will stay

If you want to keep your finger pose animations you can also make a toggle for them but that's a bit more involved than just removing them

[compact dust]

meow.

[mighty cove]

I would but these are some public avis unfortunately. Will keep that in mind if i ever have the same problem with ones i uploaded. A shame tho i really like them. Thank you tho!

[primal wind]

On quest my avatar is shown being in the air but on pc it’s planted on the floor. Anybody know why? It’s at all 0’s in unity

[rigid coral]

any clue why I'm still gettin g this? Already did the pipelines steps, not sure why it would sitll be happeneing

[primal wind]

In my experience that was always an internet issue

[rigid coral]

Something going on with the servers then maybe? My world updated fine an hr or so ago, but this happened prior to that

then agian later on

[primal wind]

I shoved it in the ground on unity and reloaded it, didn’t move at all

[pine valley]

Are there any other errors?

All of these errors are pretty much just the SDK saying "something failed"

[rigid coral]

none

just 2 that say failed to upload

a few yellow related to poi

[pine valley]

also, what are the "pipeline steps"?

[rigid coral]

but nothing red

detach blueprint id

the standrad semi-fucky erros that pop up more commonly

I haven't tried using poi 7.3 but thats all

[pine valley]

have a look at the full text for each of the last three log entries

it appears in the bottom half of the console when you click on one

[rigid coral]

should I look for anything in specifc, tbh it looks like a mess to me and like the builder screwed itself

[pine valley]

I would check if you can upload anything

you can make a new avatar that's just a cube or something

or use the built-in example in the SDK

[rigid coral]

did a world earlier but i'll do a re-upload of another avi

[pine valley]

er, wrong screenshot

lol

meant to show one of a search for t:model

the SDK comes with a model for demonstrating the Physbone system

[primal wind]

With OVR, the feet stay planted but my body moves

[idle pawn]

still locked here qvq

[forest garden]

How do i keep my emission tattoo's on my avatar for quest? i know vrchat doesnt like poiyomi shader but when i switch it to vrchat moble it removes my tattoo's

[idle pawn]

you should have an emission shader in VRChat/Mobile

[forest garden]

where do i find that? 💀 im so slow sorry

[fossil spindle]

Standard Lite supports emission

[zealous pine]

does anyone know how to fix the issue where if you put outlines on the mayu the eyes fill in with that color

[forest garden]

omg thank u 🥲 that took me so long

[lucid rapids]

can someone help me and tell me how to fix it ?

[pine valley]

The first error on your screen is the only meaningful one. You are missing a script

[somber sequoia]

that prefab name is very sus though

[proper depot]

Hello, would anyone know why when using the gogo loco vrcfury prefab, the menu just doesnt show 😅 ? Tried in a fresh scene too and cant seem to get it to work??

[somber sequoia]

is it under the "extra" or whatever it says at the upper-left when you have too many menu items?

[hybrid iron]

Is there any way to make an item follow my vision movement on desktop. I tried to use a parent constraint but in Desktop , the head is limited and doesn't rotate as far as the cursor can move. I'm trying to make a Helmet closing on the head effect but this is giving me some problems.

[worldly whale]

so i added avatar descriptor to this model and it doesn't have additive or gestures tab, why?

[night ember]

its not humanoid

[worldly whale]

ahh ok, i made it humanoid nd it didnt sav cause of import errors

so it says parts of the model arnt mapped but them i check anx they are, yet the bones are red and when i click enforce t pose it just goes all cattywampus

any ideas?

[grim hedge]

Anyone know how to upload pixel icons without garbling the quality for expression menus again?

Compression makes them larger in some cases, and some are not compatible with ASTC due to non-power of 4, which means they fall back to compression that garbles the quality.

All are less than 16KB in size. I was able to upload to PC without compression but the SDK is regusing on Android despite the images all being capped to 128x128 and set to RGBA16 (Unity says most of them are actually RGBA4 in the preview since they're black/white).

These icons quite literally double in size when set to ETC compression. Since ETC compression is not available they fall back to a format larger than when set to uncompressed RGBA16.

(They go from RGBA4 to RGBA8)

[drowsy oxide]

idk why but in unity my avatar is stuck in a sitting pose even when it doesnt have an animated controller#

[somber sequoia]

pumkin's tools has a tool for resetting that

[drowsy oxide]

ty

[proper storm]

Did this ever get fixed?

[toxic moss]

Ensure that the outline layer is separate from the eye fill layer

[bleak ruin]

Is there a way to prevent a blendshape from being activated by an animator when a toggle is active? I have an avi that has two blendshapes for the breasts, big and small, and the breast size radial uses both. But the outfit I'm trying to add only has the small blendshape so I'm trying to lock big at 0 so the radial setting won't cause issues

[night ember]

just have the animation that disables it be lower down the list

[bleak ruin]

Lower in the controller layer?

[somber sequoia]

lower stuff overrides higher stuff

[night ember]

yes

lower has priority technically since it happens after the upper ones

[somber sequoia]

yeah that's a better way of saying it

[bleak ruin]

Is there a way to figure out which layer a parameter is used in...? cause the creator of this avi did this and nothing is named properly. I've looked through every single object and as many of the transitions as I can actually click on but I can't find the relevant param, but it's there in the param tab and if I try to delete it it does tell me it exists somewhere

[zealous pine]

how would one do that? in rendering?

[bleak ruin]

currently I'm just moving layers to the bottom one at a time and reentering play mode to see if it ever works, but if there's an easier way I'd love to know it

also, this is why I can't just use VRCFury to do it - each block is a single float and Fury doesn't support float params for it's toggles t.t

[somber sequoia]

wow this is kinda amazing

[bleak ruin]

you're telling me. I've spent the last 16 hours trying to understand it

[somber sequoia]

I'd probably just throw it out and build my own

[bleak ruin]

I've been extremely tempted. But I haven't because this avi has one of those floating menus (kinda like that SAO world menu) that actually works really well

[somber sequoia]

ahh

probably generated that animator from a script then

that'd make sense

I mean, that's how I'd do it 🙂

[bleak ruin]

I didn't even know that was a thing. neat

[somber sequoia]

yeah, Unity has an API for doing it, it's not bad at all

[night ember]

what in the fuck is that web

[bleak ruin]

spaghetti

[night ember]

what does that even do

[bleak ruin]

controls this

[somber sequoia]

ooh

[bleak ruin]

okay I'm convinced this shit was coded with black magic because I've looked in every single layer and I cannot find where the actual animators are being referenced. It works in game mode, both through the expressions menu and the floating one. So the animators have to be being referenced somewhere. But I just cannot find it

[somber sequoia]

the animator files are just YAML, you could grep through the file then try to trace it back up the hierarchy.....

[bleak ruin]

the animator doesn't know where the blendtree is referencing it from though

[limber kindle]

I have been trying multiple things and I still cant figure out how to set up the animation controller so the automatic blinkig is off when I use hand gestures

[gentle goblet]

Hai um, I was wondering if anyone knew how to make grabbable clothes and stuff, like someone else grabbing your shirt to slide it across or up etc

[bleak ruin]

physbones and blendshapes, you'll have to do it in Blender

[night ember]

animator tracking control

you stick it on the animation in the controller

[somber sequoia]

put VRC Animator Tracking Control on the action, set the eyes parameter to "animated". Make sure you set it back to "tracking" after.

(which means this is difficult to do with AnyState, you may need to redesign your layer)

[limber kindle]

Oh, I have it on anystate

I have no idea how to do anything more complicated than that.. the video guide I was following says just copy and use the default thing that has anystate on it

[night ember]

just make a separate layer that switches it on or off depending on the gesture parameters

[limber kindle]

Okay I will try looking into that thank you

[fleet zephyr]

Hello guys! I wanted to ask, are there any issues when uploading avatars at the moment? I'm trying to upload one, but for some reason it keeps mentioning that the upload has failed-- It makes some progress, but then it gives an error message. I don't think it's connection issues, since I asked a friend from another country to try, and they got the same message.

[limber kindle]

So when the gesture is not equal to 0 i set it to animated and then when it equal 0 i set it back to tracking? If I want it off on all face gesture?

[somber sequoia]

sure, that can work

[limber kindle]

Okay thank you so much I will try that

[rigid coral]

issue I've been having. Finishes the unity side then says failed upload

[limber kindle]

It worked!!! Thank you so much

[fleet zephyr]

Yeah, it's a bit odd! It does work if I upload the model for offline testing, but it doesn't for publishing it

[rigid coral]

worlds upload still so im not sure whats happening, guess imma try tomorrow

[compact dust]

what the heck is that 😭

[bleak ruin]

suffering

suprisingly not the worst blendtree I've seen though lol

[olive pelican]

It was made with Animator Code plugin, it looks like.

That's definitely the result fo a plugin/code generation setup

[bleak ruin]

good to know, thanks

[olive pelican]

It may help you detangle it, but no promises.

[fleet zephyr]

Update: I tried uploading a new different avatar, and it gave me the same issue

[olive pelican]

You have enough trust to upload, I'm guessing?

[fleet zephyr]

Yes, I am on User rank

[olive pelican]

wacky

[bleak ruin]

Try making an offline build of your avi

that will rule out if it's an avi issue or an upload issue

[somber meadow]

https://wiki.vrchat.com/wiki/Guides:Connection_issues

[fleet zephyr]

Yeah, offline uploads work perfectly

[somber meadow]

Your connection is timing out, follow the steps in the "Unstable Connection" section

[fleet zephyr]

I also sent the file to a friend in another country, and it showed them the same issue

Oh, I'll try that!

[compact dust]

how setup gogo with vrcf :D

[bleak ruin]

I just tried uploading as a test, worked fine for me. So it's not the VRC servers having issues (unless it's in your specific country/region)

[fleet zephyr]

Oh yes!! This worked!

[bleak ruin]

If you're using the version through the repo, then at the top click tools, gogo, then go through the setup

[fleet zephyr]

Yes, I used WARP, and it uploaded correctly! Thank you so much guys!

[compact dust]

nope, not zere

[dark jay]

how to make throwable pokeballs on my model in vrchat

[night ember]

rigidbody throw

https://github.com/VRLabs/Rigidbody-Throw

[dark jay]

does it work on quest

[gentle goblet]

Still curious about this question 👉 👈

[night ember]

probably?

[dark jay]

ok

[night ember]

although probably not considering it uses colliders

[dark jay]

ok

[night ember]

you are kinda stuck with particles if you are doing it on quest

[dark jay]

need one working on quest i dont mind 2d sprite based pokeballs

[night ember]

you do know particles support meshes right?

[compact dust]

does the vcc auto update vrcf

[arctic ginkgo]

for quest if you want to figure out direction you could use a physbone or a "follower" constraint and aim constraint and then freeze the rotation to world when you let go so the particle goes whatever direction your arm was going as you let go

physbone with stretch or proximity contacts could give you velocity as well and then you can animate based on the physbone or contact parameter for the particle start speed

[dark jay]

ah

[compact dust]

is it weird that my vrcfury does not have the gogoloco thing

[night ember]

gogoloco isnt a part of vrcfury

gogoloco is its own thing by itself

[compact dust]

ik, but i thought there was a tool for adding it when you have gogo in your project

[night ember]

thats a thing by itself

[compact dust]

the tool?

[night ember]

theres a vrcfury prefab for goloco and then theres goloco

[misty lagoon]

Need some help...a booth avi i picked up has extra skin texture options in the folders but they are not in the form of a material where you can just drag it on to the avatar...they are in PNG form...how do I apply them to the model in that scenario? (total noob)

[compact dust]

drag the png into the albedo slot

eyelook settings probably

ok then

[frigid void]

mb

can someone tell me why in play mode (with the avatar emulator) the eyes are stuck looking to the side, and the view is outside of the head. (The first two are not in play mode, the second two are)

do you know what eyelook settings? again its fine outside of playmode

[compact dust]

view being outside isnt really a big deal
the looking to the side is probably eyelook settings in the vrc descriptor

eyelooks settings are only applied in play mode which is why it would change

[frigid void]

do you know how to fix the view though, i dont want it to be that far out in game

[compact dust]

move it

press edit and then move it to where desired

[frigid void]

but it changes in playmode

[compact dust]

you want a bit of it sticking out so you dont see stuff like your face

[frigid void]

playmode vs normal

[compact dust]

just move it further back then

unless its moving to a specific point

[frigid void]

the avatar itself is moving, i checked and the viepoint position is the same

[compact dust]

are you using gesture thingy

[frigid void]

gesture manager?

[compact dust]

yeh

[frigid void]

yes

[compact dust]

that moves the avi

in play mode

if the viewpoint is locked when you drag the avi around, just move it further into the head

its not much of a problem because itll look mostly the same anyways

[frigid void]

ok, ill do that, but i am still confused about the eyes, they’re stuck like that and wont change to look up, etc

[compact dust]

well they have no looking up or looking down blendshape

do they revert if you disable it

[frigid void]

this is when its not in play mode

[compact dust]

can you preview looking straight?

[frigid void]

yes

[compact dust]

is it straight-

[frigid void]

the left eye a little off but i can fix that

[compact dust]

have you tried disabling the eye look and then doing play mode to see if eyelook settings are indeed the problem

[frigid void]

ill try that

i disabled it but the eyes are still looking to the side

so i guess its not eyelook

[compact dust]

then idk

[native rampart]

why the shoe laces not go with the shoe?

[compact dust]

not weight painted or not attached to the bone?

[native rampart]

i did the automatic weight painting

[compact dust]

automatic doesnt work for everything

if its not close enough to the bone it wont work

[native rampart]

so how would i go about fixing this

[compact dust]

paint it

manually

[native rampart]

mmmmm

[proper storm]

automatic weights arent recommended, you will have to manually paint most stuff if you are rigging yourself

best its for is literally a rope with bones on it, lol

[full furnace]

Hello. Is there a way to easily remove that glossy look of the texture by editing the poiyomi shader in unity?

[compact dust]

get rid of any glossy settings

[full furnace]

I couldn't find a slider called in a way that would imply it's about glossiness.

I guess I might have to experiment

[chilly aurora]

does anyone know how to use vrcquesttools material swap component and platform settings component to allow building both mobile and pc at the same time? thought i had it set right but the android build still complained about my shaders...

[chilly aurora]

shader?

oh poi. my bad. so that's under 'shading>reflections and specular'

specific setting you'll want will probably be the smoothness.

[ornate stump]

It's more common to be matcap for any toon shader.

[full furnace]

it's not even ticked. that would imply it's the texture itself?

[ornate stump]

Check mat cap and rimlight then.

[chilly aurora]

could also be matcap or clear coat yeah

[full furnace]

THat was it!

Thank you folks!

❤️

[paper mirage]

When I updated to the latest version of the sdk, re-uploading caused this error to keep happening. I tried re-importing the sdk and using an old version or using a new unity, but nothing helped. Can anyone help me?

[junior void]

the question is what are the first 1-5ish errors

[paper mirage]

all the same

[somber sequoia]

hmm check what's in your avatar descriptor, maybe you have an array item with a missing value?

though it seems to be referring to an animator

[junior void]

A missing value wouldnt throw array index out of bounds tho

[somber sequoia]

yeah I wonder what would there

[junior void]

A double installed sdk might

[somber sequoia]

ah true

[junior void]

Aka project came with sdk files

[paper mirage]

When I reinstalled, I found that the error was caused by parameters. When I placed the parameters in avatar, the error kept appearing.

[somber sequoia]

you might have to explain what that all means

[junior void]

Probably the parameters file in the descriptor

[paper mirage]

It broke very suddenly, when I was halfway through making it 🥲

I'm only sure that the parameterizer damaged it

I reinstalled everything as described by vrcsdk but nothing worked

[somber sequoia]

yeah I have no idea what that might mean

[pine valley]

This means that you have a Radial Puppet control that, somehow, has no sub parameters

the parameter that the puppet controls is a sub-parameter (like how the 2-axis puppets can have 2 or 4 parameters)

I don't know if there's an easy way to find the offending control.

[still elbow]

i have a model but i'm lazy and dont wanna make it an avatar myself, can anyone offer any help? i've never made a vrchat model anyway and the time i tried it i couldn't use huimanoid bec of the absence of legs. then generic said it wouldn't have the built in animations

i have my model 100% done and rigged how i want it

the only part i'm missing is making the bottom line pieces expand and shrink like in the anim

[somber sequoia]

You could make leg bones but not weight them to get around that issue for a humanoid rig, then you get all the body/arm stuff for free

[junior void]

^

[still elbow]

i tried that but did it wrong somehow

i need at least a little help

[junior void]

Probably legs not parented to hips

[somber sequoia]

that's what #avatar-rigging is for 🙂

[still elbow]

dude i have 6 bones in the entire mesh there are no hips 😭

[somber sequoia]

oh well that's not going to be a humanoid rig

[still elbow]

if only i could assign the parts i have and leave out the rest

[junior void]

If you look at the humanoid rig in unity, it tells you which bones are required

[still elbow]

i already know you only need a very small ammount bec of the png avatars

i have one for tobuscus's "do you like my sword" video

[junior void]

Even png avis have arms, legs, hips

[still elbow]

????????

oh

bruhhh

[somber sequoia]

no, you need almost all of a humanoid rig if you want to actually have it be a humanoid rig

[still elbow]

how difficult is it to just animate it myself?

[junior void]

Depends what you want

[somber sequoia]

dunno, haven't tried 'cause I haven't had any reason to

[still elbow]

i want arm tracking, that's the only thing i need

[somber sequoia]

I really suggest doing a humanoid rig.

[still elbow]

and ofc the body will face the forward view direction

[junior void]

I advise using humanoid rig

[still elbow]

dang

ok fine

is there a checklist in a #resources or smthn?

[somber sequoia]

there's a pinned message in #avatar-rigging with a diagram

[still elbow]

thx

[balmy barn]

text to mesh, then weightpaint to bones , not too hard (legs wouldnt really be a thing)

bottom just a physbone flailing around when you move

[somber sequoia]

yup

treat it like a tail kinda, with gravity

[still elbow]

i didn't use weight paint i used parent (bone)

bec it's a rigid model

and if the near flat numbers bent it would look weird

[somber sequoia]

weight is always required, even if the weight is just 1

[still elbow]

ah, funny

[somber sequoia]

you don't have to actually paint though, can just set it to 1

[still elbow]

alr

do the bones need names of any sort to register as a humanoid rig?

[balmy barn]

what id do, weightpainting wouldnt warp at arms, still look abit funny also i dont even know if blender likes special characters

[somber sequoia]

no, but it's ideal to name left/right ones with some obvious extension like .L and .R so Blender knows to mirror them

there are certainly conventions though

[still elbow]

alr

[still elbow]

the funny thing is that you already knew where the arms bend despite being a jumbled mess or math

bec when i first looked at the tpose ref i had and got to the arms i had no clue where to make them bend

[balmy barn]

ect ect ect

have to use different fonts or blender hates you

[pine valley]

\documentclass{humanoid}

[formal sparrow]

does anyone know why my particles work perficly fine in regular unity but when i trigger them with an animation they work like.. weirdly? like i can only see a few and they glitch in and out and i cant see trails

[pine valley]

perhaps you're turning the particle system on and off

[formal sparrow]

i am, but i turn it off first frame them on 2nd and keep it on for a bit

[pine valley]

Check that Loop Time is disabled on the animation clip.

Also check that you aren't rapidly leaving and entering the animator state

[formal sparrow]

how does one check that

sorry im new idk what that means 😭

[pine valley]

Did you create an animator layer that plays this animation?