avatar-help

[toxic grotto]

ya let me try

[heavy zephyr]

Easiest would be to use poiyomi on the hair. If you right-click on the material in your project I'm pretty sure poiyomi has an option to convert a shader to it

[toxic grotto]

still does not work

[somber sequoia]

there's literally nothing I can suggest without anything else to go on. and I don't run vcc or windows, so I probably don't have much anyway

[toxic grotto]

ok but its not showing up

[somber sequoia]

... I'm not sure what "does not work" meant because that looks like Unity started to me.

[toxic grotto]

it started but no project opened

?

[somber sequoia]

that looks like a project

[toxic grotto]

yes but so sdk

[somber sequoia]

did you install the SDK in the project?

[toxic grotto]

wymm

[somber sequoia]

ok I'll have to just refer you to #creator-companion from here, I don't use it

[azure bobcat]

for some reason when i go into play mode, some of my clothes disappear from the hierarchy

in play mode:

its mostly anything with an M at the end. they're an alternate version of the same cloths that fit a different body type. i need them for toggles because for some godforsaken reason the clothes didnt come with blendshapes so i have to use these instead

[proper depot]

Probably such a simple thing but there is 0 info online that I could find, how do i remove the red from this bone???? I must have clicked something by mistake but everything i saw looking it up just had nothin to do with this idk

only happens in weightpaint mode

[arctic ginkgo]

is it a bone constraint? try looking in the bone constraints tab in pose mode to see if there are any

[azure bobcat]

found this post that might help: https://www.reddit.com/r/Unity3D/comments/az7ix2/unity_character_rigger_why_my_bones_are_red_when/

[proper depot]

yup! tysm! I separated the bones, easy fix thankfully

[timid kite]

how to reduce the size of the phys bone? which setting is it. cos people can grab my chest from way too far now and idk what changed

[worldly plume]

So I'm making a furry Avatar it just a retexture and etc but I need help uploading it to quest! Due to something strange I can't download the Android pack to my unity so I just need someone to help me please 🙏😭

[ember blade]

https://youtu.be/yV8Yf0ZgU7o?t=128
Following this tutorial (linked at the timestamp where I am), and in the video, she simply pastes the GoLoco file directly into the Assets tab in Unity.
I'm not sure why mine won't do that. I do have the GoLoco folder already existing in the Unity Project Folder, but I'm not sure if that's part of the issue.
If someone could solve my predicament or give me a better tutorial to follow, that would be amazing! 🫶

Ok, pause; I just had to Right-click and select import file and then It worked.
Problem solved, this message is irrelevant

(Embed fail, day ruined)

[spring badge]

Hand tracking works flawlessly on Runa but not on Emmelie. Does anyone know how to fix this ? Thanks! >ω<

[somber meadow]

Is there a custom gesture layer on that avatar?

[spring badge]

This ?
EDIT: removing it worked! THANKS

[ember blade]

I need some input on avatar design ideas
(Ignore the material design on the very left, it's not an option)
What material should I base this avatar on? The liquid metal (middle) or the bismuth (right)?
The liquid metal might look better under lighting, but the bismuth one looks absolutley stunning regardless

[rapid kestrel]

I'd recommend the bismuth one, as you can't trust world lighting to have any sort of consistency

[proper storm]

its like a magic trick that makes me pull my hair out because I cant fix it

am I just sitting in the animator too long?

I had it on my last avatar I made a while ago and gave up trying to fix it so now I quit unity and open the project again

[compact dust]

is that a fish gun?

[proper storm]

yes dont ask

[compact dust]

very kewl

[proper storm]

not related, but why does my model get stuck in the funny pose for no reason

Ive never found a fix, tried everything, so now when it happens, I just close unity and dont care about the loss in progress

[compact dust]

bike pose?

[proper storm]

yeah

that

[compact dust]

idk mine does that normally when in play mode

[proper storm]

thats normal

[compact dust]

yeah

[proper storm]

but in scene is a nono

[compact dust]

i dont think i've had one that's done that

[proper storm]

when its stuck like that at least

[hoary ember]

I have more pictures but please tell me someone knows what’s causing this to happen. 3rd avatar to have this exact problem happened tonight, didn’t get pics of it due to the fact the radial menu doesn’t always work nor does my main menu (I have to go to the website to switch avatars)

I’m losing my mind, I spent a full 5 hrs trying to diagnose this issue, and I haven’t found anything that helps. I found one person with the same issue who said resetting pose in FBX configuration helps but it didn’t work for me 🥲

[left gull]

check if you've got anything in the animator's top slot generally you dont want anything there (you can also try hitting preview to take it out of bike pose in the animation tab)

[proper storm]

wym

I kept it in preview mode to force an animaion while I added a particle system

going out of preview mode didnt fix it btw

[ornate stump]

If model pose stuck outside of preview, use pumkin avatar tools to reset pose.

[gloomy glen]

had a bit of issue on my avatar, I set mine up with shapekeys for MMD worlds and it was working earlier but after I booted up VRC later on in the day, none of my shapekeys were working

I have no idea what happened

[fallow fiber]

okay so theres this mona/mafuyu fusion i wanna do but i ran into a lot of problems. the leg piece thing looks weird and the thing that wraps around the leg is kind of there but invisible? im not sure how to explain but only parts of it in certain angles could be seen in unity

also the neck and hands are white and the eyes are greyed out

and the earring is only one color (both in blender and unity)

sorry if this is a bit much 😭

[desert elk]

the earing must not have a texture

[fallow fiber]

how do i make it have one?

[desert elk]

well do you have the files of the texture? if not you need to make it yourself

draw it yourself I mean

[fallow fiber]

yes i reopened the mona model where i originally took it from

it has a texture

[left gull]

is that texture applied in unity aswell? eyes dont look like they have an assigned material and the leg thing's mesh might need to be flipped in blender (select all the leg thing's mesh in edit mode and Shift+N iirc)

[fallow fiber]

ok so i redid my steps and it turns out the earring loses its texture after i join it with the main mesh

here it is before joining

how do i join it without it losing its texture?

[fallow fiber]

ah thank you! flipping the normals did the trick

[fiery crow]

make sure ur UVs match names

[fallow fiber]

yup! its all good now just the eyes left 😭

[frail temple]

Quick question, how do you mirror weight paint on the other side after you've already painted or is that not possible?

[ornate stump]

Why you post same image 3 times?

[proud otter]

I'm sorry If i did that but it's deleting on my side

[ornate stump]

• Reduce texture resolution
• Enable compression
• Remove objects
• Reduce polygon count
• Remove unused blendshapes, vertex groups, uv maps
• Remove long animation

[inland pumice]

whats the best method to make an avatar quest compatible? yesterday i made this legoshi avatar and its still 40mb for the quest version sadly

[frail temple]

Is this possible?

[inland pumice]

i need 10 mb max

[proud otter]

Isn't there a way to do all that all at once? I'm trying to get rid of things off the avi itself all at once

[ornate stump]

Copy vertex group and use mirror command in the vertex group menu.

[inland pumice]

accept of these two everything is green

[desert elk]

damn, lower texture size for sure

[inland pumice]

how do i reduce polygon count, do i need blender for that?

[frail temple]

Thanks!!

[ornate stump]

How do a computer know what to not remove? No way right? Just manually do one thing at time and see how much size change.

[ornate stump]

Easiest way is to remove unnecessary object.

[inland pumice]

should i make the texture resolution lower and compress it? i´m new into unity

[desert elk]

there may be a unity tool for that, but it's paid I think

[inland pumice]

i only have gogo loco there haha

[desert elk]

easiest would be blender

[ornate stump]

That isn't an object.

[desert elk]

objects as in closed, meshes, etc

[inland pumice]

should i delete physbones like tail and ears?

[ornate stump]

Physbone contriute only little to file size

[inland pumice]

okay

[desert elk]

in my opinion the easiest way to reduce polygons would be blender and baking your avatar (I use the Tuxedo add-on for that)
or delete some objects, or delete mesh under clothes

[inland pumice]

lets go it worked, i made the textures lower and i also found 2 objects that i totally forget and don´t need haha

i had a hidden beanie and glasses lmao

[desert elk]

nice!

[fallow fiber]

help 😭

[desert elk]

my guess would be set the rig to humanoid

and if it, switch to generic and switch back

maybe it got stuck

and make sure you have a head bone mapped

[fallow fiber]

yup i did all those but it still says the same thing

[ornate stump]

Are you sure it's set as humanoid rig and doesn't have error in the riggging menu? Also screenshot to confirm.

[fallow fiber]

here's what i got

[ornate stump]

And then screenshot the avatar in the scene showing avatar descirptor, and the hierarchy.

[fallow fiber]

here

[ornate stump]

You put avatar descriptor on a wrong object.

[fallow fiber]

huh wait wdym?

[ornate stump]

Avatar descriptor must be on the avatar root object.

[fallow fiber]

how do i know which this is?

[ornate stump]

#avatar-help message

[fallow fiber]

ohh i see

[hollow meteor]

how do I add physbones to the chest?? there is none and the transforms wont allow me to change them

[ornate stump]

You can't set root transform while in play mode.

[hollow meteor]

oh I see but how do I make the physbones properly? last time I tried it wouldnt allow me to set an endpoint

[ornate stump]

Just exit play mode.

[hollow meteor]

I did but in general I'm not good at manually setting physbones

[ornate stump]

What does it mean "manually" setting physbone?

[inland pumice]

i want to make a public avatar from dead by daylight and i´m using the exact model from the game. is it against the rules to make it public?

[hollow meteor]

this base doesnt come with physbones in the chest for some reason, when I try to add them nothing happens

like it doesnt come with the bones

[ornate stump]

For vrc, there isn't. But this doesn't apply to the rightful owner of the model, the game studio.

[inland pumice]

oh okay

[ornate stump]

Do you mean "it has chest bone, but you have to add physbone component" or "it doesn't have chest bone at all"?

[hollow meteor]

like usually when I add the physbone component there would be a white line on both breasts, but for this model everytime I use it there isnt so I cant add physbones

[ornate stump]

If the breasts have only one bone in the chain on both side, then you have to set endpoint position.

[hollow meteor]

when I do that I cant get it to where they line up with them, they go all separate ways

[ornate stump]

You usually just have to set only Y direction.

[frail temple]

Is this normal? (Context: Obj file imported into blender and exported as FBX, Extracted zip so blender should have read the MTL file alongside the Obj file)

[ornate stump]

Obj file didn't have rig so your model can't be animated.

Converting to Fbx doesn't automaticcally rig it.

[frail temple]

It's not the rig, it's the materials, where the hell do i put these?

I thought the extracted materials no. should be the same as the texture no.

[ornate stump]

If the textures contain in different path than what mtl file expected, that the result where it can't locate the texture files.

[ornate stump]

How much you sure that the texture must contains in the same folder as mtl file, and not in subfolder like "Textures"?

[hollow meteor]

it wont work, they keep going opposite ways than what im putting them as

[ornate stump]

How is it actually look like?

[hollow meteor]

im not good at angling things so I dont know what to put them as but it keeps staying facing thiis way or being too far out

[ornate stump]

You just need only the Y direction.

[hollow meteor]

when I do that it faces downwards

[ornate stump]

Screenshot when you set only Y.

[ornate stump]

And you want it to point a bit up?

[hollow meteor]

I want it to point upwards a bit and be shorter so it isnt outside of the chest

[ornate stump]

Just add some x and reduce some y.

[ornate stump]

It's just my example. The texture could be contain in any subfolder with different name.

[frail temple]

Ok, how do i put the texture over these materials if they're not named?

I want to put texture on this model in unity

[ornate stump]

It's trial and error. Put texture on one material and see result, if not right then try another texture.

[frail temple]

Ah ok i see, i thought it was glitched lol, i guess the guy who extracted it from the game didn't name the materials right

[hollow meteor]

thank you it worked

[winter veldt]

why the heck my av end up like this?

[ornate stump]

What do you expect it to be?

[winter veldt]

idk i try to change shader is not let me

[ornate stump]

Then you have to extract material from fbx file import settings, or create new material and replace in the scene.

[winter veldt]

nah i don't think i see the FBX file

[ornate stump]

You have to inspect the fbx file itself. Not other subassets.

[austere bay]

you should probably make a prefrab varient by right clicking on the fbx

don't just drag the fbx into the scene

[frail temple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/921462873698471947/1344950198232682578/2025-02-28_11-31-29.mp4?ex=67c2c5fb&is=67c1747b&hm=0b90044bc8b4c171c2c21f44c6086e24f19675b4c64c7a150ba8792f59c8db91&

How do i reduce the angle change between the two modes? it's really annoying when trying to rig up close (I am hitting Shift + tilde (`) in the video then pressing LMB

[fallow fiber]

when changing the thumbnail for an already uploaded avatar do i have to change and reupload both on quest and pc or is just pc fine?

[timber wharf]

you dont need to reupload at all, you just change description and apply

sdk or website

[dusty rose]

Ok I might be stupid (even put this in wrong channel before). I thought this was a straight forward thing but somehow it isn't. I use VRCEmote on a thing, doesn't really matter what it is. I set it so that it activated in the range of 120-124
(VRCEmote Greater 119
VRCRmote Less 125)
and that works well. When I want my thing to deactivate tho It doesn't. I did the transition back like this:
VRCEmote Less 120
VRCEmote Greater 124
What am I doing wrong?

[balmy barn]

I just change that to VRCEmote greater then 0 ,very unlikely you are going to trigger multiple of that parameter (1-255) so range make no sense

reset would just be VRCEmote equal 0 / or not same number

[rose edge]

aight so im using a Minercaft avatar base to make a Knocker avatar for Quest, but the textures get all jumbled up when i try to apply Toonlit, though it works when i use Standard or Polyomi Toonlit
the outer layer just covers up everything
i suspect it's the UV mapping but i dunno how to fix that without knowing it exactly-

[dusty rose]

120-124 is all the gogoloco flying stuff that's why I need that range

[balmy barn]

arent these mixed ? less is greater

VRCEmote Greater 119
VRCEmote Less 125

range = 120 <> 124

VRCEmote Less 120 < would be 119 to 0

oh nm

yeh i just use not equal

[dusty rose]

Yea I might be overthinking it

[balmy barn]

VRCEmote Less 120
VRCEmote Greater 124

this one would require both to be under 119 **AND **above 125 not possible

same parameter

only glanced at gogo controllers some time ago, i dont use it

[rose edge]

does anybody know the UV mapping of the toonlit shader exactly-

[civic bone]

whats the best guide on youtube to add a weapon to my avatar without vrc fury?

or should i learn the writes override stuff because i bought a gun and it doesnt work with my avatar

[desert elk]

well, the first step would be to try and install it again on a fresh avatar. Maybe you missed a step from the guide?

weapon assets often have instructions

especially working weapons

and they differ from one another so there isn't one guide for everything

oh wait, you posted about that before, did it end up not working properly?

Hmm I guess I could help you out with it, either texts or vc, maybe it would be more helpful than the provided instructions

[civic bone]

sure

its the writes override stuff that breaks it

[young osprey]

can some one please help me as my freakhound is saying it failed the security checks and i have only just uploaded it last night

[upbeat glade]

how would i get an avatar made??

[young osprey]

are you looking to get a custom avatar

[upbeat glade]

yeah

[desert elk]

Join VRC Traders (link in #1204490664637890580 ) and find an artist there to commission. If you wanna make one yourself it's a different story

[upbeat glade]

id rather an artist so thank you

[rose edge]

how do i upload an avatar to be cross-platform? i'd follow the official steps but the screenshot is too blurry

[desert elk]

you need to upload the pc version - set platform to windows, copy the blueprint id, and attach it to the quest version upload quest to the android platform

[shut oxide]

how do i empty the optional bones that i dont want to use it filled em automatically even tho my rig doesnt have eyesor jaw bone

[desert elk]

either click on it and press backspace on your keyboard, or click the circle with a dot on the right and select "none" - it's an the top

[shut oxide]

thx

[real birch]

Now i got an avatar to work with but um

[desert elk]

um?

drag it to the hierarchy

or is there a problem i'm not seeing?

[real birch]

idk how to drag that into there i tried

[balmy barn]

rex should have a scene

[real birch]

Scene?

[desert elk]

Yes

[real birch]

Where at?

[desert elk]

in the assets

usually creators call it either "open me" or the avatar's name

some creators include instructions on how to upload an avatar. Where there not any when you bought it?

[real birch]

I mean got it off a friend after buying it but I would've thought I'd be simple

[night ember]

so you didnt buy it but got it leaked to you via a friend

[desert elk]

yeah

that's def against the author's tos

[real birch]

I bought it

im not that idiotic

[real birch]

I clearly wrote "buying it" did i not?

[desert elk]

sp

so

[night ember]

you said you got it off a friend

[desert elk]

you broke tos by giving it to a friend?

i'm a bit confused

[real birch]

im about to get annoyed

i bought it off a friend

[night ember]

did you not buy the actual rex then?

[real birch]

He gave me the file after i bought it

[desert elk]

yup, that's breaking tos of the original model

[night ember]

https://rezilloryker.gumroad.com/l/MYutV

[desert elk]

your friend shoudln't have gotten any money for it

you should buy the original cause "im not that idiotic"

[proper storm]

Did you drag the fbx into the scene?

[desert elk]

apparently they can't do that

[balmy barn]

scene have all settings / descriptor , controllers , physbone ect set up, unless you want to do all that yourself

[desert elk]

yeah

[real birch]

You know what im done at least i got people that will actually help

[desert elk]

sure, sure

[night ember]

I mean if you bought it officially and not "from a friend" you wouldnt be having issues

[desert elk]

exactly

the original has a scene, very easy upload

[night ember]

the official package gives you everything already set up ready to upload

[desert elk]

which your friend hasn't done

[night ember]

it even tells you all the requirements needed for it

[desert elk]

i'm wondering if the friend even purchased the original model

[proper storm]

Probably not, people still rip after the banwave, ive seen people do on public avatars too still because they get privated eventually

[desert elk]

i know, it's so annoying

[proper storm]

I sympathize with it unless you are re-selling the avatars, peope dont have the money to buy them or time to make the theirselves

[desert elk]

i wish creators got paid though, i'd be so mad if someone ripped my work for free

[proper storm]

Well, yeah, but what can you do, go rage about it online for a fix that wont happen

As long as people dont re-sell it, i find it okay, you are talking about the 1-5% that actually rip now whereas the other 90% actually pay because they want to support the creator

[desert elk]

i guess so

but i do agree that reselling is bad

worse i'd say

[proper storm]

Well thats a nono, just having the avatar and uploading for self and not giving it to anyone is mostly okay but reselling is asking for legal trouble

[desert elk]

true

[gloomy flint]

'i bought this 40 dollar avatar from the EU but since youre from the US and don't know how a VPN works i'll sell it to you for 60 bucks :)'

[desert elk]

XDd what?

[gloomy flint]

its very easy and stupid that funfact on Payhip buying an avatar can be region locked

so if a seller is in the EU and the avatar is sold in Euros/Pounds, a US buyer genuinely CANNOT buy it unless they use a VPN

so it sets up a 'market' for resellers who know how a VPN works

[desert elk]

xDDd that's so dumb

[gloomy flint]

it is, idk why payhip doesnt fix that

[tender prairie]

Hey, question. my avatar doesn't want to upload all the physbones attached to the avatar and i'm not sure why. I'm attaching two physbones, 1 for each of the ears, but on the right ear it's skipping the end bone, leaving 2 uneven physbones. they should be mirrored. the right ear is also twisted weirdly after uploading. could anyone help?

managed to fix the extra bone already, but still dealing with a weird twist in the ear that is not there before uploading, but is there after uploading

[somber sequoia]

often that is a result of bone roll not being what you'd expect

[tender prairie]

apologies, bone roll? what do you mean by that?

[somber sequoia]

it's a property of bones, you can view and change it in Blender

at the least, the values should match for left/right in this case, but also probably having them set to 0 is ideal.

[balmy barn]

bones i know are going to move i set roll towards avatar , doing that makes things like skirt/hair easy to avoid going into avatar

easier to see on a skirt from above (mess of a avatar)

[somber sequoia]

the auto-align around cursor thing is so useful

[tender prairie]

is this an issue that only shows up after uploading though?

[somber sequoia]

it's easy enough to go check the bone roll. I could be wrong.

[tender prairie]

this is what it looks in blender

[balmy barn]

enable that and you can see the xyz

'axes'

[tender prairie]

i think it looks fine in blender. all the bones look lined up

even the small ones have the XYZ in the same orientation as the rest in the chain

[somber sequoia]

if you click on a bone in edit mode, in the 'n' popup's "Item" tab, the bone roll value is shown

[tender prairie]

okay, i see that, what should be normal?

checking left against right, they are mirrored, one side in the negative, other in the positive. same values otherwise

[somber sequoia]

normal is kinda "what works right", but I'd start with 0 and have them match at least. humanoid bones should mostly be 0. ears... depends on how you want them rotating mostly

now I'm curious what I've got, checking.

yeah, 0

[tender prairie]

currently for me they are going from base to tip: 14 -6.8 3.4 1.9. on the right side and the left side for the avatar is inverted in values

that... fixed it?

[somber sequoia]

you set them to 0?

[tender prairie]

ye

[somber sequoia]

yep, doesn't surprise me 🙂

[tender prairie]

i did set everything to 0, i uploaded a base copy and that seems to have worked. now porting all the extra stuff over to see if it still works with every bit and doodlybop attached

[desert elk]

or you could override the fbx I think

would save you time

[tender prairie]

never managed to figure out how to do that

[desert elk]

right click in assets "show in explorer", find the old fbx there, drag the new one in and select "Override" or something like that, the first option your computer gives you

[tender prairie]

ohhh, in the files of the unity project

[desert elk]

yup

[tender prairie]

will do that next time ^^

[proper storm]

yo, when making anims for toggles, im assuming I make the animation by creating a clip on the avatar directly and not the object

shit seems to not work when I do it to other way around because Im using the fx layer to control my toggles

[somber sequoia]

do you have a separate animator on the object or something?

[proper storm]

No, but the prefab I got came with animations

so im using those

[somber sequoia]

oh, then you only have the animator on the avatar, so yeah, you have to use that to animate stuff

and since the prefab would be a child of the avatar, it works fine

[proper storm]

Yeah, weird, because the anims it came with arent working even though they show perfectly fine in the preview

[somber sequoia]

that message seems relevant

[proper storm]

I usually use vrcfury to set stuff up, ive used the stock animator for more complex stuff but right now it seems to be fucked

its odd that it says no valid anims because its right here

[somber meadow]

it means the animation file itself

the paths are invalid

[somber sequoia]

iirc fury removes animations which don't actually do anything, it's possible those are invalid, like the things they are to animate inside have invalid paths

[proper storm]

I left the animations inside the asset folder it came with

[somber sequoia]

if you move the prefab around they may not be right

[proper storm]

Should I be putting the asset folder into the folder of the avatar? or no

[somber sequoia]

check 'em - yellow means invalid

[proper storm]

Im not using fury for this one though

[somber sequoia]

where the animation files are in the Project (i.e. on your hard drive) is not relevant

if you use it for anything, I think it'll still run this

[proper storm]

How should the pathing be? I left the anims inside the asset folder I downloaded and imported, ie, not inside the path of my avatar

[somber sequoia]

I couldn't possibly tell you without looking at the avatar

[proper storm]

Just lumped into the assets folder that the project has

[proper storm]

Ah alright

I was trying to be general about it

[somber sequoia]

no it's not about paths in the project window

it's about where it is on the avatar in the hierarchy

[proper storm]

its odd because ive done this a lot before and it didnt break

[somber sequoia]

go look at the animation in the animation tab and see if the paths to what items it animates are yellow

[civic bone]

what number gesture is fist?

[somber sequoia]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/animator-parameters#gestureleft-and-gestureright-values

[civic bone]

ty

[proper storm]

I dont have any active animations to look at when I click the base avatar, it says "to begin animating [avatarnamehere], create an animation clip"

[somber meadow]

put the animator that has this animation in your avatar's animator component's "Controller" slot

[somber sequoia]

put a- that.

[proper storm]

i seemed to find it yeah, when I checked it in my controller, it says its missing

[somber sequoia]

yep. hfcRed has a "Animation Repathing" tool that's really great for this

[proper storm]

Thats very odd though, is there a simple way to explain why its missing, the assets that is animated is a child of the avatar, it should be able to find it, no?

[somber meadow]

animations start a path from the root of the animator component

it needs to be exact, this is why a bunch of prefabs use VRCFury so it repaths dynamically depending where objects are

[proper storm]

Ah, yeah, well im using particle systems and shit that are a bit more complex and ive been told that its not recommended to use vrcfury for it

I only use it for clothes and simple toggles

Because it doesnt have any statements, just turn on, turn off, maybe a transition state and exclusive tags etc

[mental estuary]

https://vrcfury.com/components/full-controller

[proper storm]

Should I copy the keyframes and paste them into a new anim I create from the avatar directly then?

[mental estuary]

Full Controllers have path rewrite rules for this exact reason when isolating assets

In fact it has an auto-fix button that'll work out the rewrite rule based on the location of the children

[civic bone]

how can i make an audio source replay while another one is playing for instance a gun is shot but u can shoot again without the audio stopping the first time shot

[night ember]

second audio source

[civic bone]

is there anything i have to do to it because im playing 1 audio source i just want it to go again without stopping as im shooting

[night ember]

you cant just duplicate the audio of a singular audio source

[civic bone]

im assuming u do this in animator

[night ember]

either make the audio source loop or have a second audio source so they can overlap

first option you are stuck to the rate that the audio loops and the second is more dynamic

[civic bone]

is the second option were u say pull a trigger but u pull it gain and u still hear the first one but the second also plays

[night ember]

yea?

you just kinda need to alternate between the 2 audio sources

[civic bone]

can they be the same audio source?

[night ember]

no you need 2 separate ones

[civic bone]

dang

[night ember]

an audio source cant just play multiple times without resetting the audio

[civic bone]

ok

so there isnt just a way to let it play through while i make the second one go out

[night ember]

no

[civic bone]

ok

thats annoying tbh

at least i learned how to put my own gun in and toggles and stuff on my avatar and its only been 8 days

@night ember how would i do it if i had 2 audio files

[night ember]

you just alternate the toggling of it

make the animation the same length as the audio length and then use exit time

[civic bone]

ok

i edited the same audio file to make it shorter and its working a bit just gotta figure out the transition now

[frozen rivet]

been going insane due to this error, spine hierachy..

[somber meadow]

you're using the wrong unity version, and your rig configuration isn't set properly

[frozen rivet]

oh damn lemme fix that

[somber meadow]

https://creators.vrchat.com/sdk/upgrade/current-unity-version

[frozen rivet]

been fixed

[languid garden]

I literally can’t make avatars idk why I’m here

I literally just need help making one

[severe crown]

Every time I move it to the armature and attach it to the eye and it breaks and doesn’t glow at all or show up

[fiery crow]

u set it to the eye bone in the armature?

is that glow by animation by chance?

[silent ibex]

hello it's been a long time since i've used unity and i'm having a problem uploading an avatar, i have the new version of unity to publish avatars

[proper storm]

where is my COPY PATH

im trying to make the path with it

but I dont have copy path on the prefab

[somber sequoia]

I don't know what a "copy path" is?

or what that dialog might be from

[proper storm]

Its for rewriting path on the tool

hfcRed

[somber sequoia]

you need to update the incorrect paths to the object being animated to be the correct paths.

[worldly snow]

im not sure what to do here

need help please and thank you

[toxic crater]

So when you rig the avi in unity, go to the hands and there’s a part on every finger that is set to 90 degrees. Just set that to 0 and it should hopefully be good

[coarse thistle]

I need some help yall so on quest my avatar is like dark like this in most worlds but on pc its fine

[winter veldt]

i lost all the texture in av when i upload this
ps i forgot to say this is my first time i make avatar

[coarse thistle]

u using vrcfury?

[ornate stump]

In what world that it's fine? What shader you used?

[winter veldt]

i think not

[coarse thistle]

i used standard uh theres some worlds but i don't have a clue

[coarse thistle]

did u make a materal?

[ornate stump]

Which standard?

[coarse thistle]

the circle ball things and put the textre in?

[coarse thistle]

regular standard

[ornate stump]

Screenshot how you set the material.

[winter veldt]

try and can't change shander

[coarse thistle]

u gotta export the texture if you click the kundo

[ornate stump]

You shouldn't be able to upload to quest with that shader.

[compact dust]

also if you cant change the shader, the way i fix it is just making a new material

[coarse thistle]

click kundo then go to materals and then press xport texture

[coarse thistle]

ur right i got it working i uploaded it wrong

sorry thanks

[oblique forge]

I need help
I put a station onto an avatar but the movement delay between pc and quest is to much
How do i fix this

[ornate stump]

You should expect delay from animation driven by parameter to be around 500ms.

[oblique forge]

But the gogo loco seats don't have delay

[ornate stump]

Then what kind of delay you talked about?

[oblique forge]

One sec I'll get a clip

[ornate stump]

Try set station type to Immobilized for vehicle.

[oblique forge]

Ill try

but yeah trying to get it like this

[lunar ember]

Is this the proper place to ask for help identifying assets to recreate an avatar? I know the base, but the hair, clothes, etc are unknown.

[oblique forge]

I think thats #1138520828556890214

[lunar ember]

Ah, thank ya. Didn't realize I could create a thread in there.

[oblique forge]

didn't work

[ornate stump]

You reuploaded for both platform?

[arctic ginkgo]

probably just the worlds, but try checking your bounding box and make sure that the center (or anchor override) is in a reasonable place, usually around the hips. If it's too high or too low then it can mess up what light probes it's using and think your lighting should be coming from under the floor or above the ceiling

[oblique forge]

yes
changed to the other setting
uploaded to quest and pc and tested again

[ornate stump]

Try seeing how goloco set its station and replicate the values.

[cinder finch]

This question does directly relate to editing avatars, I apologize if it seems unbased.

Can anyone tell me how to properly add layers in microsoft paint? I can get the layers option to open and add multiple layers, but as soon as I attempt to open multiple images, it resets all of the layers. I have several textures that need to be layered on top of each other, but I just cannot seem to manage it. Nor can I find a proper online editor that allows 4k photo editing.

Any advice is appreciated, thank you

[ornate stump]

Do you actually mean .net paint?

[cinder finch]

Not that I am aware of. It is just called Paint, and is preinstalled in windows and I am incredibly stupid

[ornate stump]

There is no layer in ms paint.

[oblique forge]

I did

[cinder finch]

This is what I'm seeing. There's a layer option in the toolbar, and a display in the right (also image is completely SFW please do not insta-delete mods)

[ornate stump]

Might be new in Win11 not sure though. But also try using photopea for online editor. Or krita for local editing.

[cinder finch]

Will try photopea. Thank you

[cinder finch]

Photopea worked flawlessly. Thank you kindly.

[cinder finch]

Using VRCFury, if I want to have the pre-made outfit for the avatar to be the primary outfit, with a secondary outfit as a toggle, how would I go about setting that up? I mostly had it figured out until I realised that the tutorial I was watching didn't come with clothes in the first place....

Nevermind, to anyone who may run into the same issue, just hide the outfit. I'm so incredibly stupid.

[cinder finch]

This is entirely related to the model in question, however:

Using the base Kokoa, everything seems to be fully functional in Unity, but upon launching VRChat, the hair is at a 90 degree angle to the model. When checking the transform options for the hair, the rotation was set to (nearly) 90 degrees on the X axis, but changing that had no effect on the issue,

I have also attempted to link the hair module directly to the Head armament. Again, to no resolve.

A third option I have attempted was to link the hair to the head via VRCFury. (Guess what, didn't work.)

Any help would be appreciated

[proper storm]

Yeah, I installed it btw and trying to figure out how to path it right

[lapis terrace]

anyone else having issues with radial menus snapping to zero?

[ornate stump]

In redial control, don't put parameter in the parameter slot, only in rotation slot.

[lapis terrace]

ah ok ty

[compact dust]

hi

anybody need help 🥺

[alpine perch]

si

how dose one fix this? T0T

[lapis tide]

anyone got vrcquest tools for 2022?

[compact dust]

search it on googl, firs resul is th github

[lapis tide]

i did and i couldnt find it

[left gull]

https://github.com/kurotu/VRCQuestTools/releases

the 2 most recent releases work for my 2022 project

[primal wind]

How can you export your vrchat project from Unity, like to one of those downloadable links when you purchase an avatar

[ornate stump]

You could export the scene and its dependencies.

[primal wind]

Thank you!

[clear gust]

can't upload an bought avatar from previous PC

[ornate stump]

Check Console for more details

[clear gust]

It because I need to delete the old avatar? don't understand

[ornate stump]

Look for more red errors.

[clear gust]

this is all my errors. Is there seriously an issue with my image sizes

[ornate stump]

It is.

[alpine perch]

is there a way to fix this?? the avatar name is Nyxie by Nexxy on gumroad

[broken glade]

can someone help me change the bone / proportions of my avi

the origin and bones are lower then my shoes (converse) I want the bottom to be the bottom of the converse and just not use the boots

[desert elk]

delete the boots, move the avatar to be on the ground level. A to select everything, Crtl A - Apply - All Transforms

[broken glade]

will moving the avatar and not the armature matter?

[desert elk]

if you move the armature everything will move (i don't remember if the same thing happens when moving the mesh), so it's safer than moving things separately

id move the armature in object mode

[broken glade]

i moved everything together in object view, deleted boots and pulled down

is this correct

[desert elk]

Yup, everything good. I'm guessing if you don't want boots you gotta delete the feet too, cause they're not correctly shaped for the sneakers.

[broken glade]

they have a shape key so its fine

[desert elk]

oh alright that's good

[broken glade]

but aren't the bones suppose to line up with the ankle?

[desert elk]

yes I was just gonna say

that you should probably move them

[broken glade]

how? moving the bones destroys the mesh

[frail temple]

Quick (ish) question, is this rig good enough for the shoes?

[desert elk]

at least the bottom one

[desert elk]

what do you mean by that? screenshot?

[junior void]

probably using pose mode

[desert elk]

ah yes, in edit mode

you should move bones in edit mode not pose mode

[desert elk]

It depends if you want toes, they're optional, but looks good. Just what are those little bones on the sides?

[broken glade]

ah okay so just move them in edit mode to look like this

[frail temple]

Nah iam removing toes as per to the vrchat avatar guide, those are heel bones i think

[desert elk]

yup

[frail temple]

Are those also optional?

[desert elk]

I have never seen heel bones in my life xd

[frail temple]

blender segregation in action

[desert elk]

My feet only have one bone per foot

your have 3

[frail temple]

it's just rigify, blame it

[desert elk]

unity set up has spot for two bones - feet and toes

[frail temple]

Do i need to rig for lipsync?

[desert elk]

so I'd remove at least the heel bones (and the toe bones if you don't want them)

[desert elk]

I do lipsyncing with visemes - blendshapes

i think there's a way with a jaw bone but I never did it like that

[frail temple]

What is this??

[junior void]

best look what the bones move in weight paint mode

[desert elk]

I don't know what I'm looking at

yup

[junior void]

dont just blatantly delete bones, merge or dissolve them instead

[desert elk]

or look at their names, maybe they're named in a way that makes sense

[frail temple]

I uh did the weight paint manually for each bone, they don't move nuthiun....

[junior void]

in edit mode they wont

you need to use pose mode or move bones in weight paint mode

[frail temple]

No i mean in pose mode, i rigged this model and weight painted it myself

also that bone is called the "face" bone

[junior void]

then it should move when you move bones in pose mode

[frail temple]

just gonna delete it and think about it later lol

[junior void]

if it doesnt, maybe your armature modifier broke

[frail temple]

nothing works right in my machine

[desert elk]

do you have a different head bone? that If weight painted

[frail temple]

I only weight painted Spine_006

[desert elk]

Ah I see

good choice to figure out what bones you actually need before weight painting

[frail temple]

Actually how do i select all meshes so you can review my weight painting? or do i have to go one by one

[desert elk]

saves you a headache

[desert elk]

I usually paint stuff separately, and than just join all meshes

[frail temple]

rotating bones during weight painting to see if i accidentally weight painted a different part of the mesh also saved me a headache

[desert elk]

with selecting them and ctrl J

to join everything

[frail temple]

will that carry over to unity? since i haven't put the textures on the model yet and i am afraid i won't be able to if i join all meshes

[desert elk]

why wouldn't you be able to join them? It will carry over

[frail temple]

But if i join all the meshes, how could i put the textures on?

[junior void]

joining meshes makes all the materials go onto one combined mesh

[broken glade]

also another question, would you know how to fix this armature its moved up and the origin thing is all messed up

[frail temple]

textures for this model were kinda weird

[junior void]

they wont get merged or truncated

[desert elk]

yea

exactly

just meshes get combined

your materials stay separate

[frail temple]

Oh okay, so is the process just
Apply textures in blender -> join all meshes -> export to unity as FBX]

[desert elk]

move the armature down in edit mode. Go to object mode and apply all transforms, should fix it

[junior void]

you dont want to rely on textures in blender anyway

[desert elk]

you don't need to apply textures in blender

[junior void]

youll have to make materials in unity

so putting them in blender is extra work

[desert elk]

you can just apply materials in unity

[junior void]

i only do it for avatars i sell and/or need to mess with the mesh and wanna see how the textures get warped or deformed if i do

[frail temple]

@desert elk How do i unjoin the meshes that i just joined?

[desert elk]

you could try mesh - separate - by materials

i think pressing P also brings up that menu, I could be wrong though

[frail temple]

I see, they're split but not the same way as they did before

i'll just bring up my earlier save

[desert elk]

mhm

[junior void]

you select all mesh parts you want to separate, then hit p -> by selection

in edit mode that is

[desert elk]

that's also a way

if you want more control over how they separate

[frail temple]

Which bone should control this section? 1, 2 or 3?

[junior void]

the pink one?

the hand bone, 2

[frail temple]

Thx

i'll give it 100% control

[wooden cairn]

For minimum velocity on contacts, how fast is 0.05, the default?

I feel like I have no point of reference

[rose geode]

is there a way to fill in that see through bit?

[wooden cairn]

Is it the inside of the hood?

[junior void]

Youll need to use a shader that can set backface culling to none, something like poiyomi for example

note that this is not possible for quest

[rose geode]

yeah

[rose geode]

so if I made this avatar quest comp. they would still see through those areas?

[wooden cairn]

On PC, if you're using Poiyomi shaders, go to Rendering > Culling, and set it to None

[junior void]

yes

[wooden cairn]

yeah

You'll have to modify the mesh if you want it fixed for both

which isn't too hard, but if you've never used blender before it can be daunting

[junior void]

the only thing you can do for quest is duplicate the hood and flip the normals but it will double the poly count for the hood, so not a good option

[rose geode]

ahh alr alr I think quest can live with it lmao

thank you guys

[wooden cairn]

No problem

[arctic ginkgo]

Iirc it's m/s

So 0.05 velocity is 5cm per second, pretty sensitive

[wooden cairn]

Gonna try 0.5, it's for a smack sound

[arctic ginkgo]

0.5 is a lot

For smacking something with your hand at least

Unless your avatar is really tall

[wooden cairn]

Fair point, I'll try 0.1 and see how that feels

[arctic ginkgo]

By normal people standards, moving your hand and half a meter per second is pretty fast, that's like throwing a punch

Yeah 0.1 seems reasonable

[wooden cairn]

Thanks for the input

That's pretty helpful ^^

[charred epoch]

Is someone able to explain this for me please?

[wooden cairn]

0.1 seems good so far

[left wharf]

https://creators.vrchat.com/platforms/android/quest-content-limitations/
it says "lightmapped is only for worlds"

[wooden cairn]

Actually, 0.1 is pretty low

[charred epoch]

Switching to standard lite has turned my blue clothing to a sickly green

[broken glade]

so i've been sculpting a body and I go into edit mode and all of my stuff just undo's

i look in object view, its fine; but in edit mode none of my changes are there

[wooden cairn]

I have yet to test in in VR, but in the editor with a test collider, I actually set it all the way up to 1

Is there a way to add random pitch shifting to a SFX?

[wooden cairn]

Sounds like an armature posing issue

I've had this happen but unfortunately I don't quite remember what fixed it

[arctic ginkgo]

If you set it up with animator play audio then you just change the min+max pitch

[wooden cairn]

What do you mean?

Wdym by set it up with animator play audio?

Oh, I didn't know that was a thing

I found the VRCBehavior Thanks!

[frail temple]

I am almost done weight painting but, how do i fix this?

It's getting really hard to weight paint the hand when there's so little vertices

[wooden cairn]

Those vertices are possibly not in the right mesh group

Make sure they're assigned correctly

[frail temple]

Nah they're in the right mesh group, it's just impossible to weight paint the hand meshes correctly because there's not enough vertices

Is there a way to add more vertices?

[wooden cairn]

Then are they weight painted to a different bone? They shouldn't be left behind like that

Besides just going in and modifying the mesh? Maybe with the subdivision surface modifier

[frail temple]

Nah I think they're just not weight painted, the problem is if I weight paint those little crevices, they'll basically be red

Or weight paint other vertices by accident

[frail temple]

I'll try that

[wooden cairn]

Make a backup before apply it

[rigid nymph]

hey guys, im trying to add physbones to my tail and i wanna make the tail wag a little and my ears to twitch as like an idle

something like this
https://werewoofpaws1.gumroad.com/l/EarTwitchAndTailWagNovabeast?layout=profile&recommended_by=discover_wishlist

[hidden loom]

How do I animate an object, lets say a spider that crawls from the foot of my avatar all the way up to the shoulder? Can I animate reparenting? How can I make it so the spider object respects the current position of the limbs it's traveling past?

[wooden jasper]

Even if I put on a dedicated model's clothes, the model's legs keep sticking out of the clothes. I've been looking for this for 2 days now and have no idea. Does anyone know how to fix it?

[hidden loom]

If the clothing is dedicated for the model but it's leg/foot is sticking out, click on the body mesh on which the foot or leg are on and adjust the likely existing blendshapes. There is likely a blendshape that makes the foot/lower leg or whatever is sticking out either disappear or adjust themselves into for example a high heel position

[wooden jasper]

I'm using the Moe avatar, and there don't seem to be any BlendShapes for adjusting the legs or feet. However, in the Avatar Configuration, the avatar's heels are not touching the ground but are slightly lifted.

[rigid nymph]

i added new piercings and was wondering if i can weightpaint it to my mouth without using blender or is it nessecery?

[ornate stump]

You need more than just weight paint if you want to to move with mouth blendshapes.

[rigid nymph]

really? like what? do i need to move it into blender?

[ornate stump]

Yes. You have to create blendshapes for it according to mouth blendshapes.

And of course you still need to weight paint it to head bone.

[rigid nymph]

once im done, do i have to import the whhole avatar again or can i only import the piercings?

[ornate stump]

Depends on how you export it.

[rigid nymph]

How do I export it so that I only import in the piercings?

[ornate stump]

Then you make it a separate object and remove other object except for armature then export.

[rigid nymph]

Well after weight painting and all the stuff I'll remove all the objects off the avatar expect the piercings, so I keep the armature of the avatar then export it?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

Also keep in mind there isn't just only one way to make it works. Feel free to do experiment.

[rigid nymph]

I'm assuming I'd only need the bones of the body and not like clothes and such right?

[rigid nymph]

I will, ty:)

[ornate stump]

You might be able to. You could also left only head bone, or other bone that it's weight painted to.

[median stream]

In Blender it says 70.000
But in Unity it says 85.442

[rigid nymph]

Oh then I'll only keep the head lol, thanks!

One last question, i drag the piercings on the head bone of the Avi or just the Avi is alright?

(unity)

[ornate stump]

You have to link the piecing's head bone to the avatar's head bone. That mean dragging it into avatar head bone.

[desert elk]

do you have unapplyed modifiers in blender? decimate, maybe

[median stream]

Yes decimate

[maiden wharf]

I have one question, why does my avatar look like this and is there a way to make it normal, ive realised that people with security on see me like this and i would prefer if i could not look like this, any help would be really appriciated😅

[desert elk]

apply them before exporting

[desert elk]

it may be the default look of your avatar, without any toggles and stuff. I think that's how impostors work

[median stream]

They are applied unless i missed something?
if i make it normal it's 74,449 polys

[desert elk]

if you can see the modifier in the modifiers tab it's not applied

you need to click the arrow (I think?) and select apply

[median stream]

Didn't have this issue before
as i only used the decimeter and nothing else didn't click on anything else

i'll guess i try an tutorials to try and locate the issue

[maiden wharf]

Ah thank you, that gave me an insight

[fathom fossil]

what is this lod group thing

[desert elk]

vrc Traders discord server

link in #1204490664637890580

[muted wyvern]

Thank you

[quasi briar]

Most likely that is how your avatar looks when clothes are on and it shrinks the body. So make sure clothes are on by default since other people with security off dont see animations

[latent zealot]

What does it me when i cant lock a shader?

I recently uploaded a model and The pants are pink

Wait isee something saying "this material is a variant it cant be locked or uploaded to vrchat"

[somber sequoia]

not sure if anyone answered you but this color change is likely due to your model having vertex colors, the quest shaders use those. you can remove them in blender or I think with vrc quest tools.

[desert elk]

you need to make a new material, not material variant

[primal wind]

How do I make a radial toggle? I have everything (animation, parameters, layout) all of that all set but it’s very choppy and doesn’t actually move like a radial

[left gull]

could you screen cap/clip what you mean by choppy?

[primal wind]

Best way to explain it is instead of the normal wheel, it doesn’t move and instead puts a random number

I’ll see if I can get a clip in a bit

[desert elk]

it would be very helpful

[cinder finch]

Hello, has any one here used the base Kokoa? When importing to Unity everything seems fine, but as soon as it is exported to VRC the hair is at almost a 90 degree angle. I have tried every troubleshooting option I can think of, but I cannot seem to source the issue. Any help would be appreciated!

[desert elk]

my guess would be physbone colliders

[cinder finch]

Will check that

[sharp kayak]

Is it possible to make an avatar on all fours?

[desert elk]

yes, but i think you'd need to make your own animations (or use humanoid and have it not look perfect)

[sharp kayak]

well how could i with humanoid?

[latent zealot]

So i noticed the lip piercings are tied to the eyes is there a way to make the lip piercings invisible? i cant select them but i confirmed they are tied to the eyes i put a new material on the eyes and it also changed the piercing to confirm

[desert elk]

it looks like the default is 100, can you move the slider at all, down from 100?,

[primal wind]

It does the same thing, it’s just default set to 0

[desert elk]

my guess would be there's something wrong with the animation set up

how does your layer look?

[primal wind]

The defaults are also set to 0 already

[desert elk]

delete them in blender if you don't want them at all, or make a new material and set the piercings uv map to be on the new material instead

[desert elk]

can you still set screenshots of the layer?

[somber sequoia]

there's a discord specifically for this, "Virtual Limbs"

[primal wind]

I ended up fixing it by using a tool creator, thank you!

I appreciate the help

[real sluice]

hello!, I was wondering if somone could help me with a greaster thing? I was redoing them form scrach with this avi, its old and the old ones where not working, I was able to get everything all set up but its keeps reapting only one gesture? Sometimes it does not work at all? I could use some help if anyone one could I am also willing to screenshare or send more screenshots if needed, thank you.

also I must say its my first time doing it, so I wont be supprised if its something dumb that I just missed xd

[vestal ruin]

I know this might be a weird queston but im extrenky confused. im trying to set up a 2d mouth rig with visemes and i thought i could make 3 differnet objects for the three mouths i wanted to set up, but i have not a cule how to link the objects to the shape keys and how to set up the animations. I havent used the vrchat sample avatar rig as i already rigged my avater way before i started doing this, can anyone help me please

[bitter spruce]

Can someone help me get started.

[tall cedar]

it's not letting me upload a Male avatar to my account but it allowed my bf to upload it. what can i do to allow myself to upload my own avatars?

[desert elk]

?upload

[flat musk]

You must obtain at least "New User" Trust Rank in our Trust and Safety system in order to upload content. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.

As an aside, you must have a VRChat account to upload content. That means you can't use a Steam account, Oculus account, or Viveport account to upload content like worlds or avatars.

Source: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/frequently-asked-questions

[desert elk]

do you have an offical account and a high enough trust rank?

[desert elk]

that's a very broad question, you can check out the vrc website first
https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/

[bitter spruce]

I did

I need a pc + monitor to make avatar?

[desert elk]

yes

[bitter spruce]

Vro..💔

[desert elk]

to my knowledge, you can't upload avatars without a pc

[tidal void]

Hi! Very basic question.

Even if my avatar's project has a million unused textures and materials in the assets folders, those don't add up to the final avatar once it is built, correct?

[charred epoch]

I ended up finding the vrcquest tools addon and that fixed my problem, thank you

[somber sequoia]

excellent!

[desert elk]

or a laptop!

[desert elk]

yes

what counts are material slots on your meshes

[tidal void]

Thanks, I was worried I was butchering performance by making multiple material variants.

I use a VRCFury to toggle between them. Do those count as extra material slots?

[frail temple]

I've imported a model into blender that's missing finger bones, how do i add bones to that?

[bitter spruce]

Vrcfurry *

[desert elk]

idk how vrc fury works, but when i do that manually it doesn't count as extra slots, so i

i'd guess it doesn't

[bitter spruce]

Eli

Question

[desert elk]

go to edit mode on the armature and add bones (shift A)

and weight paint them

[desert elk]

yes

[frail temple]

How do i add this new armature to the current armature?

[desert elk]

idk, i make anime girls
look online if any bases look similar to that

[frail temple]

Cause if i select both, doesn't let me edit them, unless i select each

[bitter spruce]

Ok

[desert elk]

cats has a merge armature function

and you have cats from what i can see

like here

manually you can select both armatures and press ctrl J

[delicate tide]

I'm trying to edit the size of the physbones on the ears but there seems to be no option to change the LENGTH of the bone, just the RADIUS. The radius is set to either end of the ears but the top and bottom extend way farther than they need to, and idk how to change the length

[desert elk]

it affects all children of the bone it's placed on
do you have blender's leaf bones there? could be it

[delicate tide]

I don't know what that is

But I just tested it and it should be fine, as long as it goes to the edge of the ears it's ok with me

[desert elk]

it should be fine

[delicate tide]

Yeah I don't think people will be putting their hands inside my head so we're good lol

[desert elk]

xD

[rigid nymph]

Still need help!

[tall cedar]

I'm Trusted in vrc

[desert elk]

with an official VRChat account?

[tall cedar]

Yes

[desert elk]

are you getting any errors while uploading?

and are you using the correct unity version?

[tall cedar]

No

[tall cedar]

I'm using CC

[desert elk]

you still need unity

[stray ice]

so uh, how do I make his bones stay in the body?

[desert elk]

you can't upload avatars without unity

[tall cedar]

I have unity already installed

[desert elk]

which version?

[tall cedar]

22

[desert elk]

2022.3.22f1?

if you're not getting any errors, idk how I can help. Does it just stop when you're trying to upload? What's happening when you press the upload button?

[desert elk]

is the rest weight painted?

[stray ice]

Im still working on the shoulder but yeah the rest of the arm is besides that.

[desert elk]

because my guess would be that the wrist stays in place because it isn't weight painted

[stray ice]

(screenshot of hand)

(Screenshot inside the arm leading to the hand)

[desert elk]

does it also move wrong in pose mode?

[stray ice]

Let me check

very much so yes

(this is probably due to the shoulder not being painted yet but it still looks funny)

Wait no I see the problem now

its becuz I only painted the specific part and not down to the rest of the arm

my bad gang

uh oh its happening again

[timber wharf]

its painted to smth else as well, find and enable normalize option for weights, then red means only this bone.

[magic tapir]

I have a question kind of about avatars

[desert elk]

just ask

[magic tapir]

is it true that some worlds change your shaders

like say you are using lightmapped and you go into a world and it reverts your shader to standard

[warped venture]

Anyone know how to deal with the phybone issue for android/quest
NOVABEAST

[somber sequoia]

hmm I don't think you can actually do that.
Though the VRChat/Mobile lightmapped one is for worlds anyway, you can't use it on an avatar.

[somber sequoia]

Remove some physbone components. You'll have to choose what to sacrifice

[glass condor]

I'm having a weird sdk issue. My inspector is stuck on the "configure avatar" window, and won't change no matter what I select. I've closed and reopened the project to no avail. Any ideas?

[somber sequoia]

is the lock in the upper-right enabled?

[glass condor]

oh...yep it is. Dunno how that happened.

thank you!

[somber sequoia]

it's a really useful thing to do!

[warped venture]

What would be the beat to sacrfice for nova

[somber sequoia]

of course that's up to you

[compact dust]

sacrifice the thigh jiggle bones

least needed

[magic tapir]

but it in certain worlds some of my avatars that or matcap lit or toon light get set to standard

especially alot of shader heavy worlds or horror worlds

[somber sequoia]

that sounds unlikely. But more likely, the world has some kind of custom lighting going on so it looks like a more basic shader.

[magic tapir]

i can send a picture real quick because i used a vrchat matcap lit and it removed the emission and quite literally reverted the avatar to a more standard like shader

the ones at the top are very contrasting from the ones on the bottom, it isnt even lighting theres just no "toon" to them at all

[compact dust]

it looks like that one world just has darker lighting

[somber sequoia]

yeah it's just world lighting, as expected

[magic tapir]

which is true but the shader I used isnt affected by lighting as you can see here

this is what an avatar looks like thats being affected by the world lighting

this avatar uses standard, which you can clearly see is more similar to this one

So does anyone have a verdict because its more than just lighting?

[somber sequoia]

honestly still looks like lighting to me.

[uncut gale]

No

[somber sequoia]

I use UV tile discarding on most of my avatars and I've never seen a world swap my shader to one that doesn't have that active.

[desert elk]

wtf

[magic tapir]

i understand what your seeing, but if it were lighting it would be entirely darkened

[somber sequoia]

wow what is up today

[desert elk]

i screenshoted that btw

[compact dust]

No 🗯️

[uncut gale]

Erm

[desert elk]

i'm sorry Kazin, today is not going great

[magic tapir]

that isnt just being darekned that is also creating a shadow

[desert elk]

should i make a report?

[left gull]

yes!!

[magic tapir]

Kazin can i just dm you so its easier

[somber sequoia]

I don't do private help in DMs for free, and don't really have any suggestion for you anyway.

[uncut gale]

I said “hoe” I don’t understand how that is so bad u need to report about, and plus I deleted it right away, and I meant it in a joking way. No need to report if it’s not there anymore

[desert elk]

mhm

[uncut gale]

Mhm

A little sensitive? …

[desert elk]

...

[magic tapir]

what is UV tile discarding

[somber sequoia]

https://www.poiyomi.com/special-fx/uv-tile-discard

[desert elk]

i personally think that calling someone names like that isn't good. I understand joking around with a friend, but not a stranger. Call me sensitive all you want, if it were me you called that, i would report you.

[magic tapir]

ahhh ok

[compact dust]

what happened
i didnt see the drama

[uncut gale]

Just because I said a curse word? Yet again, that’s a small thing, and it seems like you’re overreacting

[magic tapir]

ok so I have one more issue, that may hopefully be solvable in certain worlds my avatar will become slightly transparent even though i am not using a transparency shader of any sort

[somber sequoia]

yeah that one is definitely world shenanigans

[magic tapir]

ohhhh ok, is there any way to fix it?

[desert elk]

not just a curse word. You told a member of the server to "shut up" for no reason at all.

[uncut gale]

And YET again, I deleted my message right away

[somber sequoia]

at some point you're at the mercy of the world lighting/shading

[uncut gale]

It was there for a second or 2

[desert elk]

than why send it at all if you knew it's bad?

[left gull]

server is SFW so very much not allowed

[desert elk]

exactly

follow the rules, how hard is that

[magic tapir]

ohh ok, thanks for helping me figure this out a little cause i am just really confused with certain worlds

[somber sequoia]

yeah certain worlds do really weird things. Anytime there's custom lighting you have to wonder what's going to work and what's not

[magic tapir]

ah i see thanks

[uncut gale]

I love you’re avatars so much girl

[magic tapir]

???😭

thank you, i guess?

[magic tapir]

the person who actually made the model is quite talented, so all my gratitude goes to them

[glass condor]

I noticed something strange when making android avis. I'll get the warning from the sdk saying that the Avatar's uncompressed size is too big to load on android, but when I upload it, the warning vanishes.

When I ask my quest friends if they can see that avi, they see it as is, no imposter or anything. Is the warning broken or something? Or does vrchat compress the avatar when you upload it to Android regardless?

this isn't really a help thing, just something I'm curious about

[rigid nymph]

Can someone please help me?

[desert elk]

i believe that's an animation

[rigid nymph]

Yeah but how do I make it so smooth?

[desert elk]

idk, i never made animations. I'm just letting you know it's probably not a physbone

[somber sequoia]

for the tail wag I just made an animation that rotates the root bone back and forth.

[rigid nymph]

I wanna do from side to side, so if for example I start it off as going left then I immediately turn it right after the left part ends?

Like what times should I put each part at?

To be like the one in the link

[magic tapir]

What i usually do is first make the starting pose for the animation and then usually put it at like 1:00, 2:00, 3:00, and 4:00

1:00 can swing left, 2:00 can swing right, 3:00 can swing left, 4:00 can come back to the starting pose

To make them slower you can even drag the frames farther apart

[somber sequoia]

and make sure you check "IsAnimated" at the bottom of the physbone component for the tail

[magic tapir]

Oh yes!

[rigid nymph]

If I want it to be wagging all the time do I just make left right left right then put on loop?

[somber sequoia]

Also if you're going to animate this in Unity, I find it best to have the move/rotate orientation to be "Pivot" rather than "Global", so you rotate the correct axis.

[somber sequoia]

yep

[desert elk]

Thulen fr has a video for everything xD

[somber sequoia]

that looks really nice

[rigid nymph]

Ooo yes this is adorable

[magic tapir]

It doesss

[somber sequoia]

I like what looks like a tiny speed-up at the end

[compact dust]

bro's done literally everything to exist

and has it on video

[desert elk]

yeahh

[balmy barn]

if tail is long add a collider so it doesnt go through 'ground'

[rigid nymph]

I might have a vid he doesn't have

Ear twitch

[somber sequoia]

I don't have a video for that, but I do it with a random number generator

[balmy barn]

Got a ear randomizer , dont really use it much

[rigid nymph]

How does that work??

Ear randomizer, never heard of that

[somber sequoia]

I pick a random number 0-10, at 1 it twitches the left ear, at 2 it twitches the right. So it seems random and not often

there's a random time value in there too

[rigid nymph]

And I thought I'm decent at unity omg

Is there a tutorial for that?

[somber sequoia]

not that I know of

it's just using VRC Avatar Parameter Driver.

[balmy barn]

kinda old one

[arctic ginkgo]

the way i do it is make a "timer" blendtree that has two idle/off animations of my min/max length, then i transition with exit time to my animation that does what i want (like ear twitch) and transition with exit time back to the blendtree. Then on the state with the animation just add a parameter driver that sets the float parameter used for the blendtree to a random value

you can also have it set other random values as well and use that to drive different animations as well

i've used this for random blinking, have something move to a random coordinate movement, etc

[somber sequoia]

ah mine is just enter -> pick which ear -> wait -> do left or right -> exit

[rigid nymph]

I'm still a bit confused but I'll try to do it, thanks!!

One last question about object position, positioned the tail and everything is right in unity and gesture manager but not in vrc, it's just on the ground and not attached

[somber sequoia]

I do that in blender.

[desert elk]

same, blender

[balmy barn]

select root tailbone then hip - ctrl+p , offset its now connected to hip

back to space trucking

[rigid nymph]

Okay thanks

[alpine flax]

does anyone know why enforce tpose isn't working for this model?

[proper storm]

Just use pumpkin tools

It has a force reset pose

Even for animation (which is really useful)

[balmy barn]

get rid of _end bones 4 finger 'bones'

[ornate stump]

You actually have to see the import message.

[alpine flax]

The message just says that automatic configuration failed b/c the avatar isn't in tpose, which is what I was trying to fix

[ornate stump]

Did you look here?

[rigid nymph]

oh nvm

so uh, i made the tail animation, starting pose -> left -> right - > starting pose, but in the animation (when i test) the tail like twitches between the ending animation - > starting animation

[balmy barn]

select animation, right click set 'broken' (i think)

[somber sequoia]

Yeah - you need to mess with the curves to make them more linear - at the bottom of the animation window, there's a tab for that

oh I didn't realize that was there

I bet "flat" does it too

[rigid nymph]

I can send a vid if it helps?

[somber sequoia]

I should explore those

oh I know exactly what you mean 🙂

by default unity will kinda smooth the end, not knowing you want to loop smoothly

[rigid nymph]

nope, still twitching

tried broken and flat

[somber sequoia]

I go into curves mode and flatten the ends of the curves.

[reef kraken]

no idea

[rigid nymph]

how do i enter curves mode?

[somber sequoia]

I said - it's a tab at the bottom of the animation window, I think the other is "dope sheet"?

[rigid nymph]

OH mb

[somber sequoia]

possibly outdated script? you'd have to debug it

[rigid nymph]

whoa wth

[reef kraken]

bruuuuh

im stupid af

[rigid nymph]

sobs

[somber sequoia]

yeah that - it's tricky but I make the ramp at the ends more linear, by default it looks more like a sine wave

[rigid nymph]

like thhis?

[somber sequoia]

try it!

[rigid nymph]

wthh

[proper storm]

Hihi, anyone know how to repath anims, using hfcRed but im at good at this lol

[rigid nymph]

the tail is going up down twitches and starts the loop

[proper storm]

and docs arent very helpful at all after a few reads

[somber sequoia]

I'm not entirely sure I could explain it, last time I used it I mostly poked at it until I got a list of what it thought were incorrect paths, then I corrected them

[proper storm]

Yeah, it just says the anims is missing under my fx layer, im just not sure how to fix it

Tools dont seem very user friendly at all

Just shows gif of them using it on their assets

[somber sequoia]

you could edit each path manually in the animation window 🙂

or open the .anim file (it's just .yaml) and do a find/replace

[proper storm]

I dont know what im pathing it to though, I always make my own animations not use from imports

[somber sequoia]

Oh, the path is from the avatar root to wherever the object is

i.e. armature/hips/spine/your object

for something on the spine bone

[proper storm]

Im using armaturelink, so it would just be, avatar/object

But yeah, where it says "From" in the replace all paths windows, I dont know where I would be doing it from, I know it would be to my avatar, but I dont know from what though xd

[chrome forge]

Hey guys what I have to do to avoid having an added camera on the avatar overwriting my avatar viewpoint?
I basically added a camera in the avatar hirachy that is animated and moves around in various way (like in drone shots, dolly shots etc) for filming content. It shows everything on the VRChat window as it's supposed to do but unfortunately it also shows the camera POV in my headset. What I have to do to keep my avatar view point as the POV for my headset and only showing the camera view on the desktop window?

[alpine flax]

Oh, oops. Thank you!

[molten rampart]

i genuinely don't know what happened here
(model is kipfel)

[somber sequoia]

You exported from Blender, overwriting the .fbx file, but had unpacked your avatar prefab, right?

[somber meadow]

You exported in blender with the wrong scaling from the original

[somber sequoia]

oh that's probably the case, yeah

[molten rampart]

ill let my friend know, thanks
it was his issue im just a messenger XD

[nova flicker]

anyone remember what tool it was that allows you to grab physbones in Unity playmode ?

[somber sequoia]

you mean other than your mouse?

oh - Gesture Manager and AV3 Emulator

[reef cove]

What does the red arrows mean? (the transitions don't seem to work, by the way)

[nova flicker]

thank ya!

[somber sequoia]

muted

as in "inactive"

[reef cove]

Ah, thanks! That's the only setting which was assymetrical

[hollow sun]

I've checked and re-checked everything in my rig and unity setup and I cant figure out why this is happening.
First image is what my avatar's legs should look like, second image is what they look like while in gesture manager's playmode. Granted it's not as absurd in-game but the angle diference is still there, you can even see it on the avatar preview. I feel like I've seen and fixed this issue before but I'm having a real time here, if anyone has any tips that would be greatly apreciated

[compact dust]

that just looks like the idle anim

[compact dust]

:)

[hollow sun]

I never considered that possibility

[proper storm]

this is missing, but I pathed it to here and it says missing still

[hollow sun]

I've lost an insane ammount of time over this lmao

[proper storm]

(you can obviously see it there)

[pale verge]

urhm

could i has some help?

[compact dust]

problem?

[pale verge]

im attempting booth avatar outfit addon

[compact dust]

uhuh

[pale verge]

trying to see if the physics work as intended by going into playmode and yoinking the avatar around

but when i enter playmode

the camera is fixed from an angled position

the world is gray

and the entire thing is paused

and doesnt wanna work

[compact dust]

are you entering playmode in the scene view or the game view

[somber sequoia]

you clipped the top of the hierarchy, maybe remove the "rusk base" if that isn't there