avatar-help

[balmy hedge]

But I don't know what to do next

Like, the emission as well, it's exactly how I want but I don't know how to like.. translate that into a material or texture

[compact dust]

it should already stay that color if its not a toggle

if you edit the material directly

[balmy hedge]

I'm so confused 😅

Its all hue shifted from the original

This is the default that I want to change

[compact dust]

yeah but you did it inside the shader right

[balmy hedge]

I used gesture manager

[compact dust]

er

[balmy hedge]

and hue shifted it

[compact dust]

it wont stay that way

[balmy hedge]

what should I do

also thank you so much

[compact dust]

go into the material settings and hue shift it to white

[balmy hedge]

like this?

also, how do I turn the emissions back on

[balmy hedge]

So i switch the emission color to what I want?

[compact dust]

you need the hair emission map to make it not make the entire material glow btw

[compact dust]

yep

[balmy hedge]

Do i hit override base colors

[compact dust]

either should work

[balmy hedge]

Okay, now what should I do

[compact dust]

test it

[balmy hedge]

I mean, how would I get the texture to match the material

cause the texture is still default

now the material is good on terms of what i kind of want

[compact dust]

wdym

[balmy hedge]

And this is the texture

Don't I want them to match?

[compact dust]

does the hair look how you want it

[balmy hedge]

I mean, it could be whiter but I don't think I can do that

Could I just open the texture into photoshop and make it black and white and reimport it?

[compact dust]

ye

[balmy hedge]

How do I change the texture in poiyomi

from the regular to the black and white one

[somber sequoia]

drag a new texture into the slot

[balmy hedge]

o

lol thanks

Okay

So this is what it looks like now

Now would I just.. publish or

is there something else I should do?

[tropic gyro]

hii! can anyone help, my sculpting in blender doesnt clip but when imported into unity it clips. im really new to blender and just started a few days ago, its not a shapekey issue so im really not sure. the placement is slightly off in the unity picture but even when adjusted to the same exact spot in unity as it was in blender, it still clips. first picture is blender, second is unity.

[compact dust]

are they connected or seperate

1 or 2 objects

[tropic gyro]

2

[compact dust]

idk, when i have stuff that clips i just size it up/ move parts until it doesnt

[covert valve]

could someone help me? i was down to like 1 error but now its 8... and i cant figure out how to fix it

[compact dust]

its basically saying stuff is missing that other things are trying to reference/use (i think)

scripts that are missing prob

[covert valve]

ugh

idk what im missing though... FUCK

[compact dust]

is it for quest?

[covert valve]

i want it for pc and quest

[compact dust]

if you go to the sdk and its fine to upload to quest then it should be fine

the errors arent that important if they dont mess up the upload

my console has like 45 errors

[civic cliff]

why am i getting these black spots on the pants for this avi im making but only on the quest side?

[compact dust]

quest be like that

[covert valve]

someone else in a diff server said my avi "is not nearly close to ready"

[civic cliff]

i have to finish this today its a birthday present for a friend whose birthday is tomorrow 😭

[civic cliff]

what the freakk

[compact dust]

if it uploads and does what you want i see no problem

[covert valve]

idk how to upload it becuase i cant even build and run it

[compact dust]

you mean you cant press play?

[covert valve]

oh wait no i can that just normally dosent upload the avi???

[compact dust]

do you get an error when pressing upload

[covert valve]

i get that when pressing play

[somber sequoia]

is that the only error in the console?

[covert valve]

no

[somber sequoia]

paste the first 2-3 then

that one says "an error occurred", so not very useful by itself

[balmy hedge]

Okay but for the quest version how do I get rid of the cream color

it's supposed to be white

[covert valve]

full screen to better understand

[somber sequoia]

Again, post the first 2-3 errors

[compact dust]

delete the scripts labeled in console

[somber sequoia]

which scripts?

[compact dust]

the ones at the end of the \

[somber sequoia]

in that last image there, those are all referring to parts of the VRChat SDK, you don't delete those

[covert valve]

here are the first 4

[compact dust]

cant stop me from doin it

[somber sequoia]

?

[compact dust]

i mean you could reupload the sdk if it breaks

[covert valve]

ive tried

it still says that

[compact dust]

maybe its the EnvConfig

[covert valve]

let me try reinstalling the packages

WELP

[civic cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-spongebob-open-sesame-ive-done-all-i-can-do-let-me-have-a-try-gif-20863553

aw man

i wanted to do a funny

[compact dust]

embed fail 😔

[civic cliff]

shush

[covert valve]

what i do now :<

[somber sequoia]

what'd you do to cause this?

[covert valve]

all i did was reinstall all my stuff

like i closed unity and redid the add ons through cc

[compact dust]

ive been trying to figure out this blendshape thing for like 3 days

[somber sequoia]

I'd probably close unity and delete the whole Library folder, letting it rebuild on start

[covert valve]

are u saying... to restart . . . all over

[somber sequoia]

your avatar and such is in the Assets folder, it's safe to delete Library

[covert valve]

wait wha

[compact dust]

assets is what holds the important info

anything else is unity based if im right

[covert valve]

all i have is assets and packages

[somber sequoia]

exit Unity, look at it with your OS

you'll note I said to close Unity first

[covert valve]

os???

god im so lost

[somber sequoia]

windows, linux, I don't know what you use

[covert valve]

okay so like... do i just make a new project or someshit?

[somber sequoia]

no? not at all what I said

I'd probably close unity and delete the whole Library folder, letting it rebuild on start

(the Library folder in the project folder)

[compact dust]

i hate vrcf toggles

well

the toggle is fine

[covert valve]

im so confused on what im ment to do

[compact dust]

but for some reason i have a toggle that uses a blendshape which does not exist
but wtv

[somber sequoia]

I'm happy to try to explain the part of what I said that you think is unclear

(within limits, I can't teach you how to use a computer, etc)

[compact dust]

computer go vroom

tutorial complete

[covert valve]

im just confused on what you mean by deleating the foulder in my libary, because that sounds like im deleating to project in the cc and just making a new one

[compact dust]

no

[somber sequoia]

I did not at all say that

[compact dust]

you delete folder

unity make new one

[somber sequoia]

I said delete the folder named Library, which is in your avatar project's folder.

[covert valve]

oh like my computer foulder?

[compact dust]

when you open the project again it makes a new one

[somber sequoia]

You figure out where that is and how to do it

(make backups if you're concerned, etc)

[covert valve]

im just stupid... i thought you where on about some unkown folder somehow in the cc, but no. its just my computer foulders i had to look at

[compact dust]

i think deleting system 32 would help

[somber sequoia]

Don't do that, that's not cool

[covert valve]

okay so i just deleat the libary foulder all together?

[somber sequoia]

especially not with someone who clearly is new here.

[somber sequoia]

Yes, the folder named Library in your project is full of stuff unity creates on start and it can get corrupted. You can delete it safely while Unity is not running.

[covert valve]

cool

now lets retry

[compact dust]

get wiped computer (dont delete this)

[hollow mist]

cheers

[covert valve]

i am going to crash out

if i press play i get this

[somber sequoia]

you may need to reinstall the VRC SDK now (via VCC)

[covert valve]

but i did???

like that was why i deleated the libary aint it??

[somber sequoia]

no

[covert valve]

what do i do then

[somber sequoia]

the SDK is not located in the Library folder

... "you may need to reinstall the VRC SDK"

[covert valve]

i technically did when i opended the project again

but ill see if i can again

[somber sequoia]

unless you literally removed and installed the SDK in VCC then no, you didn't do it

re-opening unity has nothing to do with installing unity packages

[ember blade]

(fwd'd for convenience)

[compact dust]

i dont think so

[somber sequoia]

You can only use those in the VRChat/Mobile folder, and even then only a subset - one sec, I know the list is here somewhere

https://creators.vrchat.com/platforms/android/quest-content-limitations#shaders

(probably just pick Standard Lite unless you need something specific)

[silk thorn]

Is the lowest point of the avatar based on the origin or bones? I'm kind of stuck with my wife's model, she wants heels and the body base she wants has blendshape for heels, but to take them off would make her floating.

[covert valve]

still got this even after doing that

[somber sequoia]

if you clear the console, does the build work now?

[covert valve]

sigh

no

[somber sequoia]

I've no idea what that .dll issue is

[covert valve]

UGH

oh wait it didnt get the packages again

[dark jay]

eyes move in blender and unity but not vrchat how do i fix it

[ember blade]

Should I worry about any of this..?

[balmy hedge]

Just auto fix the red octigons

[somber sequoia]

that first red one you can't autofix - check your rig setup, probably got bones in the wrong slots

[ember blade]

Autofixed the stuff I could, these two are still pestering me

Will try to work something out before someone else gives me a solution

[compact dust]

the taller than avg doesnt really matter

[ember blade]

I found the perpetrator for the missing back
(SOLVED)

[covert valve]

should i worry about any of these

[somber sequoia]

you need to fix the first at least

well the second ideally too unless you meant to do that

[ember blade]

Alriiiight party people, everything* should be done. Just wondering if this error is needed or not.
(I DO have a neck bone, but its optional as listed in the menu)

[somber sequoia]

unity thinks it's optional but vrchat requires it

[ashen crane]

im having lots of issues that i cant even explain while doing animations, so here:

[ornate stump]

You select the missing property and press F2 to see the path object path it's pointing to, you also as well change object path to the correct path.

[ashen crane]

i am so confused... its just showing me the thing which im trying to toggle off..?

[ornate stump]

Screenshot what's showing.

[ashen crane]

here you can see it at the bottom left of the ss

[ornate stump]

One problem is you must not use slash / in an object name, that's causing animation to confuse.

[ashen crane]

huh, that explains a LOT cuz i had the same problem w another one of the assets of this avatar which had a slash as well

thanks i wouldve NEVER guessed that this was the problem!

[ornate stump]

Have to tried other materials that came with the cloth?

Then I'd guess it's missing matcap texture. So check in the material and find matcap section that's enabled, and see if matcap texture is assigned.

You have to put matcap mask texture too.

[pseudo cliff]

I know this is probobaly a common question, but what would be a recommended starting point to learn avatar creation? Iv'e started learning Blender, and I have a little Unity experience, but I'm having a hard time finding resources that arent just assets or pre-made character creators

[compact dust]

imo start with finding a base you like to edit in blender/unity bc it can be hard to start without much modeling experience

unless you arent trying to create a human rig, then probably more self modeling

[ornate stump]

You sounded like you wanted to create models from scratch. Any 3D modeling tutorial would work since almost all are the same principles.

[pseudo cliff]

I was going to do something like that, but I felt that getting a solid base of knowledge first would be a good step to start with

[compact dust]

like weight painting, toggles, etc?

[pseudo cliff]

Ive started with Blender Guru's vids for beginners so far

[compact dust]

i mean if you can find a free avi that you want to practice on for things like adding toggles type of base knowledge then that would work for that aspect

[pseudo cliff]

I'm starting with the basics of general modeling, then i'd move onto stuff like that, yeah

[compact dust]

the modeling is the harder part imo

takes actual practice

[pseudo cliff]

I'm just doing like the absoloute basics rn

Never used blender but I have some experience with stuff like tinkercad and fusion 360, which are more manufacturing oriented, so it's definitly going to be a switch

I'm also moving soon, so i'm not putting in much effort right now, because I won't be able to do anything for a bit

I definitly will be later though, I fully expect this to take a long time

[pseudo cliff]

Also, thank you

[pseudo cliff]

and thank you too

[compact dust]

i have forgotten how to add physbones to clothing

sigh

nvm im stupid

[brave viper]

Hey so I'm trying to install Unity and the installation is hanging here

[somber meadow]

you only need the editor and base android build support

visual studio and the submodules of android build support aren't needed

[covert valve]

we testing it

[grizzled drum]

Is my Avi ID Screwed?

[spark walrus]

not sure what im doing wrong

[covert valve]

so... i did something at least? but.... XD

idk what i did wrong

[willow carbon]

absolutely random but

i dc'd while uploading an avatar update

[compact dust]

i think thats the preview not the actual upload

could be wrong

[willow carbon]

now that my net is back i'm trying to upload and ☠️

is there a time limit for this

[compact dust]

nah wait why he fall like that 😭

how did you manage to do that

[covert valve]

No... no it is the reap avi, in game

Real*

IDK HOW

[compact dust]

so you figured out how to not make it unload when exiting the menu, and it has colliders with the world or smth 😭

[covert valve]

he just be flying through space

[compact dust]

thats actually so wild

not wrong when you said its some of the funniest shit ever

[covert valve]

okay so how do i set up world coliders then?

i want this to work

[compact dust]

no you dont do that it should automatically collide with the world

but i meant the mini version shouldnt do that

i mean the mini menu version shouldnt fall out either

[covert valve]

hasjgdhjkaw

then how did i get BOTH to do it

HOW

[compact dust]

i have no clue

[covert valve]

im testing out things and seeing if it works

[nova flicker]

it affects others too it they get close to me as well

[sick snow]

Anyone know how to fix this? Even closing and reopening the project didn't fix it.
Please @ me if you do.

[sick snow]

My issue appears to be identical to this person, based on the image they provided, so if anyone has a solution, that would be nice.

[brave viper]

hey so i'm trying to update the materials on the mesh and i don't know how

[compact dust]

update what it looks like?

[brave viper]

yeah so i just imported my fbx from Blender

so it has default mats right now, so i wanna implement liltoon

[compact dust]

ohh

you just go into the material and change which shader it uses

[brave viper]

i can't, it's grayed out

[fallen vault]

does anyone know how to fix this stuff?

[compact dust]

lemme see

[brave viper]

dragging and dropping onto the model got me to change one of the materials

[compact dust]

well the triangle part is bc smth is broken

[brave viper]

but i can't drag and drop into the inspector to update the other two

[fallen vault]

should i reimport the model then?

[compact dust]

no

its a messed up script or an asset

you have to delete it

[fallen vault]

okay

[compact dust]

i think making a new material and re-inserting the texture should fix the shader part

[fallen vault]

also how do u add an animator?

[brave viper]

yeah i have new materials

lemme go step by step real quick

[compact dust]

this i think

[fallen vault]

alr thanks

[brave viper]

-I imported the FBX
-I created a set of new Liltoon counterpart materials in Unity
-I assigned the textures to the appropriate materials
-I can't assign the Liltoon materials to the FBX

[fallen vault]

wait its an fbx?

[brave viper]

yeah

wait no i'm not talking to you killian sorry

[fallen vault]

i thought u can only use dae for models

i didnt know that u can load fbx's into unity

[brave viper]

never heard of .dae

[compact dust]

does it not allow you do drag/drop it onto the model?

[brave viper]

.daez nuts?

[compact dust]

in the scene

[brave viper]

yeah i can drop into the scene, but it only updates one mat

i can't seem to target the other mats

[compact dust]

so you did this right

[brave viper]

yes

[compact dust]

it should let you change the shader type when you create a new mat

[brave viper]

yes i've done that

all the mats are ready

[compact dust]

so they all have liltoon as the shader

[brave viper]

yeah

[compact dust]

so then whats next

[brave viper]

so my Body mesh utilizes 3 materials

[compact dust]

yeppers

[brave viper]

i can dragdrop one mat to update one of the materials

the other two are just grayed out

because they're still using the mat that came with the fbx

the two grayed out ones

[compact dust]

did it revert it back to standard automatically

or were those the ones that you couldnt get liltoon on

[brave viper]

those aren't the mats i created

i can't apply the liltoon mat onto those

those are the "FBX mats"

[compact dust]

the ones that came w/ it

or already active

wtv

[brave viper]

the grayed out ones are the ones that came with it

oh god i should've atlas'd everything...

[compact dust]

so you made a new mat, put the texture here in liltoon, and then it doesnt let you apply the new material onto the avi section that you're trying to update in the scene

[brave viper]

yes

[compact dust]

can you send a video of you attempting to drag the new mat into the scene

[dreamy geode]

I'm trying to figure out the basics of the creator companion and Unity, and right now I'm failing miserably
I'm trying to switch over to the Quest model avatar (~13k tris) and it's not switching
Also any time I try to move around with right click and WASD like the tutorial I was watching said, I just end up fading the model in or out rather than moving the camera

I tried starting with the Quest model in another project and it was stuck on the Quest model instead, I couldn't find a way to get the control panel to target the PC version model. Also the movement issue with right click doesn't exist in the other project.

I'm like 99% certain I'm making a rookie mistake that's easily solvable, does anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong?

[covert valve]

does someone know how to fix this

[night ember]

Make the bounding box of the mesh smaller

[covert valve]

how

[night ember]

Its on the mesh

[covert valve]

i dont know what mesh it even is

[night ember]

I would know even less since its not my model

[placid mica]

Does anybody know how to make a model do a walk cycle like this while in Unity?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1155973994118393878/1341527138381074532/2025-02-18_16-49-00.mp4?ex=67b65202&is=67b50082&hm=436e9438209c256b021ec6b2f329d8bb98edbbe2e793a6e593d87c5bc5d2f7da&

[night ember]

Just check the meshes

[brave viper]

fdsjakl;

I just remembered how to do it

[compact dust]

i think you can use gesture manager to do it

or find the walk cycle animation and play it in play mode

at least thats what i did in the old unity version

[night ember]

You can just stick the animation in a layer with it by itself as the default state

[brave viper]

so for the record, you update the mats here lol

[night ember]

Just delete it after so it doesnt do it in vrchat

[compact dust]

other way to do it

[brave viper]

there's another way?

[compact dust]

the way i do
but im gonna gatekeep 😎

[brave viper]

ok buddy

[compact dust]

:)

[placid mica]

I dont know where to get the animation though

[night ember]

Unity asset store, gumroad, etc

[fallen vault]

is there away to get the runtime animator controller????

[brave viper]

wait WHAT

[junior void]

turn on read/write in the fbx import

this number is the integer maximum, it assumes that wrongly as it cannot "read" this data

[brave viper]

got it, thank you

zamn still 76k tris

[brave viper]

@fallen vault i think you could use this too?

[fallen vault]

Uh idk I just used the package resolver and put the 2 main packs to beta and it fixed

[covert valve]

i give up

ima get someone to fix it for me and upload it for me i swear

[spark walrus]

Can someone help me? I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong.

[junior void]

Someone else here posted what worked for them, worth a try

[topaz mulch]

is there a way to limit how far a physbone componet goes down the root?

[junior void]

The root it the root, the first bit of the bone, so no. You can only skip a bone and put the script one bone higher. It does sound like youre trying to do something that does not require that though - what's bothering you here?

[topaz mulch]

i figured it out as i sent it lmao
its was the addon from somthing else messing with the physbone
i fixed it by using ignore transforms

[spark walrus]

I’m new to unity, how do I do all that? I honestly don’t know how 🥹

[junior void]

%appdata% is a folder on your pc, has nothing to do with unity

[brave viper]

So I need to re-weightpaint some things
Is there an easy way to like, replace the old model in the scene with an updated one once I re-export?

or do i have to deal with placing a new object and reapplying the mats and avatar descriptor, etc

[junior void]

the answer depends on whether or not you unpacked your avatar in unity

[timber wharf]

if avi is not unpacked, just overwirte fbx (but create backup of project first, you may mess it up beyond saving if you do smth wrong). if it is, import your new model alongside and use pumpkins tools to move most of the stuff between old and new version. And never unpack it again.

[brave viper]

Should I ever unpack it?

[junior void]

no

[placid mica]

Someone PLEASE help :[ every time I try to upload different avatars, I get these errors.. even in new projects. I don't know what to do!

[ornate stump]

Unless you exactly know why it had to be unpacked.

[brave viper]

https://github.com/rurre/PumkinsAvatarTools these pumpkin tools?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[brave viper]

Thank you!

[placid mica]

Pleasee someone 😭

[ornate stump]

Look like internet connection, so try with different internet, such as mobile hotspot.

[worn kiln]

wrong channel #1138520828556890214

[proven moss]

So I bought a model but Aparently I can't somehow get the textures on the model to work

I got it as a .Blend File

made it into fbx

but unity is being a pain

I extracted the textures from blender

but only the socks wored

[junior void]

define "worked" and "didnt work"

[proven moss]

what it should like

[junior void]

you need to make materials in unity anyway so dont rely on embedded ones from blender

[placid mica]

YOU ARE AMAZING!! This has been stressing me out so bad! Thank you!

[proven moss]

as in example like material with the texture image on it?

[junior void]

i dont understand the question

yes, materials have textures. yes, import textures youve got an make unity materials from them and apply them to the model

[proven moss]

Imma try doing a shader graph method

Just copy the same connections from blender

[grizzled knoll]

Question-- how long does Unity 6 normally take to install? I'm running on Windows 10 or 11 I believe

Not sure

[junior void]

unity 6?

[grizzled knoll]

The editor

[timber wharf]

ye but why

[junior void]

what do you need unity 6 for

vrchat does not support unity 6

[grizzled knoll]

oh

okay so what editor do i download?

[junior void]

you should use the vrchat creator companion

it will tell you exactly what supported options you have and you can manage addons through it easily

[grizzled knoll]

Mkay

[slow briar]

Is there a way to prevent a model's face from squishing during a head turn with a rig? Or do i have to fix that through weight paint?

[junior void]

it looks like its weight painted to something else as well which would explain this

[proven moss]

I fixed the Textures issue now I need to fix this

the inside part of the skirt is transparent

from blender

[junior void]

thats normal, its called backface culling. to remove it, you must use a shader that supports that and set culling to none or off

[placid mica]

What- how do I fix this? Tried reopening the project and even restarting my computer and it still says it... I don't have anything else uploading, I'm confused-

[placid mica]

The console

[proven moss]

I gave up tryin

it was supposed to be 2 different colors

[junior void]

i dont understand what your problem is. whats there to "try". If the mesh is one sided (flat) you must turn backface culling off via a supportive shader. If this is indeed mesh that has thickness (2 layers of vertices, a blanket for example) then it might be the case that your faces are inverted from the inside. Youre not showing us the mesh so i can only guess that its one-sided and therefore seethrough from the inside

[round comet]

If its on quest tho you’re basically SOL unless you copy the mesh, flip the normals and join the two, but that doubles the polys

Otherwise, Zero’s solution should work for you just fine

[proven moss]

imma work in it later since the model was meant for animating

it had this with it aswell

[willow carbon]

should've pinged me gangy

its just the server

gotta wait a few hours until it timeouts and then try again

[spark walrus]

does anyone know how to do a join sound in unity

[wild basin]

how should i model honey's hair?

[sudden ginkgo]

Hi, I have an animator with a single layer inside, and only 1 parameter. it is all Write Defaults on.
It animates a blendshape. The blendshape is at 0 when On, and 100 when Off.

When my parameter is set to off, and I calibrate in VR, the blendshape goes back to 0, the default.

This is despite it being write defaults on.
So to reitarate: My blendshape goes back to the default when I am in the calibration state. I would like to stop this from happening, and the blendshape to keep its current status.

[somber sequoia]

mixamo - there are TONS of great animations there, reasonably easy to use in Blender or Unity.

[somber sequoia]

Set it to whatever default state you want in Unity.

(i.e. the animator isn't going to be running at calibration time)

[sudden ginkgo]

Im aware that this is a solution, but I specifically dont want that, for other reasons.

I somehow was able to fix it before, but now? impossible

[somber sequoia]

yeah I'm pretty sure that's the way to fix it.

[arctic ginkgo]

what reasons?

[grizzled drum]

Help?
Quest Uploads but PC won't

[desert elk]

check console like it says

[arctic ginkgo]

@sudden ginkgo
if it's because of imposter: generate imposters with the version you want, then update and don't regenerate imposters

if it's because of the 3d thumbnail/turnstyle in the menu: there is a parameter you can use to animate it

if it's because of how your avatar looks for people before it's loaded the animations, i'm not sure there's a solution for that (but this is usually only a problem if you need your default avatar to be naked or smth shocking or innapropriate like that)

and ofc for the default state of the avatar, that can just be controlled by your default parameter value in your expression menu

[grizzled drum]

It's a server side lockout
It just says upload failed for the reason it states

[somber sequoia]

you'd really need to paste the message or provide other data, it's difficult to help with no information

[arctic ginkgo]

have you tried closing and opening unity?

[grizzled drum]

That
Cash Clear
Different Project
Still server Blocked

[grizzled drum]

The Log doesn't say anything
Besides Avi ID Upload Failed

[somber sequoia]

unfortunate

[arctic ginkgo]

maybe restart pc?

[grizzled drum]

Did
No ball

It's Server Side

I cancelled the Upload at just the right time and now the Avi ID can't update PC

[desert elk]

reinstall unity?

[grizzled drum]

Why would that work?

[desert elk]

i'm throwing options

if you cancelled at the correct time, maybe something in unity crashed and refuses to work

[grizzled drum]

I can upload other Avis on PC

It's server side lockout for only that Avi

[desert elk]

did you try putting it in a new unity project?

[grizzled drum]

I guess no one knows more than me for this one
The best I can hope for is for the Variable to have a Timeout and reset

[grizzled drum]

...

[grizzled drum]

Even tried
SDK 3.0

[arctic ginkgo]

I did see someone suggest to use vrcx to update the name and/or picture, maybe that could help? I'm not sure

[grizzled drum]

Tried before
That updated and didn't fix

[arctic ginkgo]

Is this a public avi?

[grizzled drum]

Yep
Priv Pub didn't fix it ether

[arctic ginkgo]

Just wondering bc if it's supposed to be private there's no harm in just uploading to a new id

But I understand if it's public and so you don't want people to lose the avatar when it's been spread to the public already

[grizzled drum]

It public
Probably a few thousand people have it

According to my thingy a 200K+ people have it
Dam

[somber meadow]

Huh? How do you have analytics

[quaint widget]

Hey really quick thingy, i just did an avatar update but all of the toggles are stuck as on and i cant get the menu to torn them off (not as in the animations are stuck in the on state but the actual toggle in the menu is stuck as on, same with a button)

[delicate olive]

hey ya'll, the legs on my manuka model are all crunchy. I've gotten almost everything down when it comes to basic avatar creation, but getting a model with cronchy legs haven't been on my list of experience yet. Any idea how to fix it?

[round comet]

Do you have a photo? o.o

[somber meadow]

Sounds like you encountered clipping prevention blendshapes, double click the body so it’s highlighted in orange, in the inspector make sure blendshapes are expanded and visible, and look for blendshapes that usually have “X” before their name or “Shrink”

[delicate olive]

Presumably this is something I'd do in Blender? Or is it possible to come across in Unity as well?

[somber meadow]

Unity

[delicate olive]

alright let me check

[somber meadow]

These also will definitely be animated in the FX layer with the clothes toggles as well

[delicate olive]

Gotcha!

here's the inspector

if you'd mind pointing it out

[somber meadow]

Click blendshapes to expand the list

[delicate olive]

oh I thought it was expanded already lol

[arctic ginkgo]

Wait how do you see that?

[delicate olive]

that makes much more sense

[arctic ginkgo]

Also I think the best thing to do at this point might be to talk to vrchat support

[delicate olive]

So in here I'll easily be able to crunch blendshapes for my own optimization purposes as well?

[somber meadow]

Blendshapes aren’t a thing for optimization

[delicate olive]

Mhm, alright, so they don't affect the avatar optimization?

just clipping prevention for clothes

[somber meadow]

They effect performance for each of them that are above 0

But it’s not as bad as vrchat is on unity 2022

[delicate olive]

Alrighty

Thank you

[quaint widget]

nvm i figured it out

im just a dumbass

[delicate olive]

I have just one last question and it won't be long:
Any idea how to give the hair more life? it looks very plain and lifeless as if it's missing maps, but I'm not sure what.

There is the highlight material/texture as seen in the image, but I'm not sure where I'd import that exactly. Other than that I'm not sure.
I'm using Poiyomi Toon shaders if that changes anything.

[round comet]

Rimlighting or a matcap could help

Maybe some outlines

[pulsar trout]

Hey is anyone here good at weight-painting? I have mostly everything done but could use some help in the minor cleanup from automatic weights

[silent dragon]

hello, im new here and kind of stumped with an animation controller problem. also im at work and can take screenshots when i get home, but this has been on my mind since last night and wondering if anyone can give me a quick answer before then.

I have an FX layer animation controller being integrated with VRCFury (full controller), and one of the layers of this controller has a waiting state, that transitions to a blend tree with a parameter that varies between 0-1. I'm trying to set it up so that if the parameter is 0.01, it will only play the animation at 1% weight of the animation's full effect, and play full when the param is at 1. from what I'm reading, this should be possible with a direct blend tree, and I'm trying to follow everything according to this page. https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/BlendTree-DirectBlending.html

The animation itself animates the position and rotation transforms of several non-humanoid armature bones of an object.

The problem is the animation plays at full weight if the parameter is anything greater than 0.

When in play mode, i observe and force the parameter to various values between 0-1, the blend tree looks exactly like it does in the image, except its just one motion and one parameter (not 5).

When the parameter is 0, the line connecting the blend tree to the animation correctly is gray and does not play the animation, and when the parameter increases from 0, the line connecting starts to turn blue, and appears to correctly send the value of the parameter to the animation. The line becomes more blue as it increases from 0, and reaches full blue when the param is 1. But still, the animation insists on playing at full weight, regardless of the parameter value being sent to it.

Am i misunderstanding how this direct blend tree is supposed to work with animations that animate armature transforms?

[silent dragon]

i feel bad for my long message so i want to make sure your message isnt missed

[pulsar trout]

I appreciate it lol

[wooden moon]

i bought an oldish avatar and it says (When using DynamicBone, please purchase DynamicBone from the asset store and import it in advance.)

i ASSUME that means if i want dynamic bones (Or...phys bones? idk the difference) i need to buy the plugin. am i correct

[timber wharf]

no, db is useless for vrc avatars now, what you want is to get dynamic bones stub (free) and press convert to physbones in sdk menu

[wooden moon]

ah ok ok ok cooool tysm

isss it an adon in the creator companion?

[royal cypress]

Make sure write defaults is checked ON on the state that contains the direct blend tree. This is a great resource for learning more about direct blend trees for vrchat use https://vrc.school/docs/Unity-Animations/BlendTrees/#af73ae6839474624b626a2f401b9a8a4

[timber wharf]

@silent dragon show some blendtree and animations themselves

[silent dragon]

i will as soon as i get home!

[wooden moon]

also whats the difference between 2022 avatar project and 2019? and for a avatar made and released in.....2020 should i use the 2019 one?

[timber wharf]

@wooden moon use 2022.

[wooden moon]

cool tysm

[pulsar trout]

Can anyone help with weight painting?

[lone flax]

How do I make my avatars blend shapes change when a toggle is equipped using vrc fury, I got an armour set for my avatar base but the fingers poke through and the clothes creator said to decrease their size idk how to do It through toggle though :(

[slow briar]

Im sitting here wheezing but pissed cause this model just wont cooperate [i tried weight painting, adjusting bones, fixing topology so idk lmao]

[silent dragon]

i had a hell of a time figuring that out for myself. the problem is that vrchat overrides hand, finger, feet locations from locomotion i think. and i had to change this in the base layer, not fx layer. gogoloco does the same thing, and all i did was create a new animation controller and added it to the vrcfury full controller component that gogoloco uses. i can explain and help more when im at home later. send me a dm if you dont get help before then.

[lone flax]

Will do thank you so much omg <3

[silent dragon]

the other thing is i havent yet figured out how to have it take control while also in VR. I only have used it in desktop mode so far, when i tried it in VR, it didn't work. Maybe someone else here can advise on what's needed for that.

[lone flax]

hm, I can get the clothes and stuff on my avatar it's rly just the fingers size and a material toggle on the hands alone

[junior void]

I dont see what blendshapes have to do with the vrc default hand animations

[compact dust]

finger size will be a blender thing, material toggle idk

[lone flax]

not animation the size through blendshapes

[silent dragon]

i was thinking there weren't blendshapes for the fingers. @lone flax are there blendshapes for finger or hand size? because if not, you have to hide it probably with scale/transforms.

[compact dust]

you could make it into a radial

instead of a toggle

[lone flax]

There are for my avatar

[junior void]

Radial takes more space

[lone flax]

I guess

[lone flax]

wdym?

[junior void]

Wdym wdym

[silent dragon]

well then that's just using the blendshape action in the vrcfury toggle. that should be easy.

https://vrcfury.com/actions

[junior void]

Radial = 8 bits
Toggle = 1 bit

[silent dragon]

you just type the name of the blendshape in the option for the action you add to the vrcfury toggle

there's also a search, so you can be sure it's the right one.

[topaz mulch]

hey is there an easier way to find where the hell this shader is?

[silent dragon]

does the select button not select it?

[topaz mulch]

it selects the avatar

[silent dragon]

i c

[round comet]

Check the materials folder

[junior void]

I usually delete half the meshes on my avi, see if it goes away and do ctrl z til i found it

[desert elk]

50/50 method

i do the same with mods for my games to figure out which one is broken xD

[somber meadow]

search t:renderer on your hierarchy and look through the results for the object using that shader

[round comet]

Oop

[topaz mulch]

thank youuu

[lone flax]

I can do it without VRC Fury but I only know how to use VRC Fury

[somber sequoia]

anisotropics - there's a lot of discussion in the Poiyomi discord for doing this - it can be complex because you have to have a UV map setup specifically for it if you want it to look right

[delicate olive]

Thanks!

could anyone point out where the menu in this photo is?

[somber sequoia]

that looks like shader settings, but not one I recognize

[delicate olive]

Assuming it's not poiyomi, which it doesn't look to be, where would the equivalent be?

[desert elk]

this is the menu of the shader though

unless that's not what you're asking about

[delicate olive]

the shader? like poiyomi shader, or just shader in general?

cause it looks different for me in that case, unless I'm looking at something else

[somber sequoia]

it's not Poiyomi

[delicate olive]

yeah I figured. where would the equivalent be?

It's a manual for how to apply a gradient to my hair model but I don't exactly understand it

[somber sequoia]

it would be on whatever material is using that shader

[somber meadow]

You'd use "multilayer math" on poiyomi

I think?

[somber sequoia]

oh I see what you're asking

[somber meadow]

I just have muscle memory for most of this

[somber sequoia]

probably it'd be best to describe what you're trying to do... possibly in the poiyomi discord

[somber meadow]

though poiyomi should have a LilToon translator now in the Toon (Free) version

[delicate olive]

That sounds like it's similar? If you care to explain

I found it just from clicking every single option available and looking at names lmao

thanks

[solemn hound]

help :(

[prisma thunder]

I have an animation to disable 2 objects and enable another, and the contacts to play the animation recognize each other, but the animation doesn't play

[compact dust]

are your params named the same on the param menu and animation params

idk how to word it

[prisma thunder]

Yes

[compact dust]

you have a script trying to access an object that isnt there

[prisma thunder]

I have a game object that I world drop to act as placement for the bomb, and when the bomb is within range in will disable the bomb in my hand, and the bomb placement, then enable the actual bomb where the bomb placement was dropped

But the animation never actually ever happens

Wait I may have used the wrong animation 🙏

I was using the wrong one, but still have the same issue

[grizzled drum]

Website Inspector

[grizzled drum]

Dam
VRC support said in a nutshell
L Bozo
To be expected

[primal cliff]

Heyy is anybody familiar here with unity?🥲 i have a problem with a avatar and the textures of it🥲

This slime should look like this but it doesnt and i am so unfamiliar with this

[somber sequoia]

you'd have to show the material on the object

[compact dust]

should look like the 2nd?

cant you add exceptions in physbone ignores

[somber sequoia]

Yeah, "Ignore Transforms" slot

[compact dust]

no not that

exceptions to the ignores

bc i have a bone i need to ignore but not one that it has as a child

[somber sequoia]

er... I don't think so?

[compact dust]

ig ill just make it its own then

[worldly whale]

how do i find where an animaion is used?
cause i have these three animations that i work in the controller and can be used but i dont know where the actual blendtree is in the fx

[compact dust]

you can search the animation name in project tab

[worldly whale]

wheres the project tab? and does that let me find it in the fx?

[compact dust]

should have one on the bottom like this

[worldly whale]

i cant find it

[compact dust]

or you can open one

[compact dust]

nvm not what i thought you meant

[worldly whale]

like i have the animation

i just cant find it in the fx

[compact dust]

i dont know how to use that so nvm

[primal cliff]

yes it should look like the 2nd

[compact dust]

if the solid material doesnt have any transparency, you should be able to add a transparency amount somehwere in the shader settings

[balmy barn]

try transparent

[primal cliff]

ok now its transparent

These are the materials

[somber sequoia]

most of those are not materials, they're textures

[compact dust]

or masks

[somber sequoia]

(which are textures)

[compact dust]

yeah but you probably wont use it in the texture section

ikwim

[somber sequoia]

don't confuse "texture" the generic term with "albedo texture" or "main texture"

[compact dust]

texta

[brave viper]

i forgot, are there some settings i absolutely need to be aware of when i'm exporting to an fbx out of Blender?

[somber sequoia]

set "apply scaling" to FBX All, probably turn off leaf bones under armature.

need, no, but probably want? sure.

[brave viper]

could that be why the outlines from the shaders of the avatar's default mats are crazy

the apply scaling part

[somber sequoia]

without seeing it I have no idea what you mean, but usually this affects actual scaling, things like physbone collision radii

[timid terrace]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhMmYbrBmhk

I explain the export settings in Blender here

[brave viper]

thank you!

[brave viper]

so i took the avatar into blender so i could fit new clothes and hair onto her

i exported her with the default export settings (so not FBX All scaling and with leaf bones checked)
and when i brought her into Unity and used the default material the avatar comes with and the outline part of the shader explodes lmao

[somber sequoia]

uh, I'm not sure what I'm looking at, what the brown stuff is

[somber meadow]

shader outline

what was the scale of the armature before updating the FBX

[brave viper]

^

[somber sequoia]

ah

[brave viper]

the scale of the armature in Blender?

[somber meadow]

in unity

it's either 100 or 1

[brave viper]

1

[somber meadow]

is it still 1?

[brave viper]

it is still 1

[somber meadow]

something sounds off then

[brave viper]

is it because i didn't do FBX All transforms on the export?

i can just edit the shader outline no problem, i'm just curious what i could've done to cause this in the first place

[somber meadow]

it's just the FBX scaling option in the blender export that'll effect this

[brave viper]

ok so maybe not having it set to FBX All might've caused this

[solemn hound]

fixed thanks

[brave viper]

how do you import an asset into unity with an intent to replace/overwrite an old version?

continuing from this Q previously #avatar-help message

[somber meadow]

overwrite the FBX

if you didn't unpack the model packed FBX in the hierarchy, it'll work fine

[brave viper]

yeah how? when dropping the FBX into Unity it's added as a copy

renamed with a 1 next to it

[somber meadow]

set your blender export path to the same path of the asset (FBX in this case)

you can export directly into unity projects

[brave viper]

oh, duh

[somber meadow]

This prefab icon (outlined in red) should be what you're seeing in your hierarchy

[brave viper]

it will turn red when i overwrite/

[fathom fossil]

i have the gorilla model fro manimal company can someone help me turn it into and avatar?

[somber meadow]

that was just my editing so people don't mix it up

[brave viper]

yeah it looks like this rn

[somber meadow]

perfect

never right click it and unpack it

[brave viper]

hey the default mat works now!

no exploded shader outline

[somber meadow]

cause in that state, it'll constantly reference the model file and making changes to the model file will instantly reflect onto it making it 1000x easier to edit your avatar's FBX

[brave viper]

ah so it's more of a pointer than a separate instanced copy

[somber meadow]

for example if you added more bones/meshes to the avatar FBX without it being in that packed state, it won't show up in the scene/hierarchy. You'd have to start back up and copy things over if you constantly unpack the prefab

tl;dr saves you a bunch of time, and there's no cons of keeping it packed

[brave viper]

TIL lol

thank you!

man i did so much more unnecessary work on my old unity project lol

[compact dust]

the avi?

[brave viper]

do avatars have to be at position 0,0,0 to work properly when compiling them to test/upload?

[compact dust]

cus i unpack stuff like clothing to add things to it

[somber meadow]

you don't need to unpack to add things to a prefab, only remove. If you're removing things, do them in blender

when you add things to a prefab already in a scene, it'll just be touted as an override

[compact dust]

new fact learned

[somber meadow]

Nope, the SDK handles that when packaging it and making a prefab out of it behind the scenes

[compact dust]

well the stuff i unpact is unrelated to the avi so it wont break anything

but i digress

[brave viper]

so if i was working on multiple avatars i can safely throw them around the scene for organization and such

[desert elk]

yeah

[somber meadow]

only reason to place it at 0,0,0 is to get the SDK's built in eye viewpoint gizmo to properly be positioned

[compact dust]

without moving it that is

[brave viper]

will moving the avatar after setting the viewpoint break the setting?

[somber meadow]

nope

[brave viper]

cool beans

[somber meadow]

the gizmo just never got fixed ever since it was added when SDK3 was a thing

it's just locked to the x0 world position

[brave viper]

hrm, now i'm thinking about some optimization because lmaoo i'm using like

10 materials

[somber meadow]

10 material slots?

[brave viper]

oh god it's more than 10

[desert elk]

you can combine them in blender

manually or with an add on

[brave viper]

is that what atlasing is?

[desert elk]

yes

ofc doing that will make your animations that relied on material changes broken

[brave viper]

i think i saw something like that in the cats plugin

[desert elk]

it's not techinically in cats

it's a separate add on that has a window in cats XD

[brave viper]

oh i see

[desert elk]

there should be a link to get it in cats if you haven't already

[brave viper]

will that preserve any emissions my clothes have?

no wait

[desert elk]

you'll need to set the materials up again

cause you'll get a new texture

[brave viper]

if i atlased the clothes for example, does that mean the clothes will all use one material?

[desert elk]

depends

what matters is material slots

so if all of your clothes are one object, than yes, it would be one material slot

but if they're more than one, than it would be however many material slots there are

even if there is only one material

[brave viper]

the clothes are three meshes?

[desert elk]

what matters are material slots

let me scroll up

[brave viper]

the pins are the optimzation breakers i'm aware lol

[desert elk]

every box you have is a separate mesh and has their own material slot/s

[brave viper]

body takes up 3 mats on its own too

guh

[desert elk]

i see

[brave viper]

lmfao this is awful

it's fine i'm learning

this is my first stab at custom clothes at this kind of level

[desert elk]

learning is good

my first one was worse than this xD

[brave viper]

i feel like atlasing might be a step you do close to last

i still want to muck around with colors for the clothes

[desert elk]

yeah, i atlas at the end of blender work, and always make a back up before just in case

[brave viper]

i always save a separate .blend file every significant step i take LOL

treat them like super undo buttons

[desert elk]

same!

just in case i completely break it

[brave viper]

yee

[sick snow]

Ok, sorry I didn't ping ya, I didn't know if you'd be ok with such.

[brave viper]

hrm, i could probably join the meshes of the pins to the jacket

[untold quail]

does anyone know how to skinmatch

[desert elk]

good idea

[untold quail]

i be strugggling

[dark jay]

anyone know why with poiyomi thr face is brighter then the body

[brave viper]

not me xandre sorry mate

[untold quail]

no worries!

[brave viper]

hey almost all my objects have an X rotation of -89.98

is that normal...

[desert elk]

ah yeah, that's a think that happens

i know a kind of fix? but idk if it's recommended to do XD

[compact dust]

oh oopsies

[desert elk]

oop

[compact dust]

idk how to explain that then

[brave viper]

ope

[dark jay]

did u at me

[compact dust]

is there an activated light like a certain poi addon

i did

that wasnt turned off

thats one thing i can think of

[brave viper]

well, time for a break for n ow

thanks for all the help Eli!

[dark jay]

Where is that

[compact dust]

it'd be somewhere in the heirarchy if its an avi you own

[dark jay]

Face is using sdf map

[dark jay]

Its not in there

[compact dust]

if its not a light then its the texture, idk what the problem would be tho

[pallid saddle]

Hello. I don't suppose someone here could help me with an issue I have? Well, two at least. I was setting up toggles for changing my model's expressions in-game. They work in Unity... but not in VRChat for some reason. I looked over my animators, inspector, everything and nothing seems wrong. It also only allows me to upload the cloned model of my main avatar while trying to upload the main one gives me a failed avatar validation.

[dark jay]

Ah

[pallid saddle]

If I may ask, sorry to intrude.

But did you set up an anchor override?

[dark jay]

Its a genshin model

[dark jay]

Whats that

[desert elk]

no problem

[pallid saddle]

On every part of your model outside Armature, make sure you set up an Anchor Override so the lighting over your avatar is consistent.

Typically the chest.

[dark jay]

Let me check

[pallid saddle]

I'm sorry if that's not a full blown guarantee but thought you could try

[dark jay]

So change it to chest?

[pallid saddle]

Drop the lighting tab

Click the arrow to drop it down

Oh sorry

Under Probes. (My eyes fail me)

[dark jay]

Oh hold on

I hit test upload so ill show it after

[pallid saddle]

Yeah, set that transform to Chest.

But

You have to do it for ALL parts

[pallid saddle]

So in my case: Body, Clothes, Fur, Hair, Tails, etc.

[dark jay]

Whats the difference between hips and chest

Its been always hips

[dark jay]

U mean root bone right

[pallid saddle]

My model is a bit... unorthodox compared to yours. So if it's hips/root bone, use that transform instead and see how that goes.

[dark jay]

Still does it with chest

[dark jay]

Hips does it too so idk

[dark jay]

Its weird my zzz and honkai models dont do it

[pallid saddle]

Might have to mess with the head's materials or textures instead if it's not consistent.

But sorry if I wasn't much help.

[dark jay]

Can normal textures cause it too?

[pallid saddle]

Not sure. When I updated my own textures to poiyomi materials, I didn't have much issue.

[dark jay]

Ok

[ember blade]

Hello, it's me again; back with another question
How would I apply this Body Texture to a Quest-friendly Standard Lite shader?
(RESOLVED)

[compact dust]

erm how do you make an object moveable again

:D

[desert elk]

put it in the first square

[ember blade]

Thank you wise wizard

[pallid saddle]

If anyone has a moment, I'd still like to ask for some help or some thoughts on my issue whenever it's possible.

[desert elk]

What errors are you getting in when trying to upload the main avatar?

[ebon bolt]

Why did an avatar fail security checks on pc

when im in unity it doesnt note anything is wrong

[desert elk]

what's the file size?

usually that's the cause

[pallid saddle]

My duplicate avatar used for animation uploads fine, ironically enough.

No idea why.

[ember blade]

Hoh boy, I might've caught this error too late.
Some of the faces on the head part are inverted (inside showing).
Can this be easily solved in Unity, or do I have to go back into Blender and fix it?

[desert elk]

could be flipper normals

[ebon bolt]

not sure id have to go on and check

[desert elk]

to fix in blender

[hollow rover]

Hey guys, i’m currently trying to making an object appear and dissapear after a certain time, i can achieve this by making a animation for it right? or are there other ways

[silent dragon]

regarding this whole thing earlier, i was able to fix this by setting the animation layer back to override instead of additive. not sure if that really fixed it. but suddenly today, i got home, changed that setting back, and suddenly its working again. i dont feel like turning it back on (the additive) setting, jsut to see if that makes it not work again :)

i have a new question. is it possible to use a blend tree to determine the weight of an animation, BUT use the inverse of the parameter (parameter = 1 means NO animation of the blend tree motions, and parameter = 0 means 100% animation of the blend tree motions. )

In addition to that, would it also be possible to set a custom range as 0-1 for the motion, such that the parameter value 0.15 means 0% animation, and parameter value of 0.00 means 100% animation?

[ebon bolt]

idk if this is av related, but if i uninstall and reinstall pc vrchat will my saved settings stay or no

[night ember]

settings are a cache so if you got rid of the cache then they would be reset

[bright vapor]

why in gods name is this happening

[desert elk]

my guess, emissions over the whole texture

happened to me before, i was very confused

[balmy barn]

camera & light got imported ?

[pallid saddle]

You might wanna uncheck these

[bright vapor]

huh?

this is a fresh import all i did was put the texture for the skin in the albedo slot

[prisma thunder]

Could someone give me a crash course on contacts and animations? I can't seem to get my contacts to do animations lol

[bright vapor]

hep me 🥺

[ebon bolt]

the avatar is fine after i reuploaded it, not sure what happened

[prisma thunder]

The parameter is named the same as the target parameters on the receiver, yes. The receiver does acknowledge the sender, and does get set to one (I'm using bool), but the animation never actually plays

[prisma thunder]

Sorry, what's the issue?

[bright vapor]

images 🥺

[prisma thunder]

Alright, open the avatar in the hierarchy and delete any lights you find

[bright vapor]

ok

[prisma thunder]

Or disable them

Looks like missing textures

How many material slots do you have?

[bright vapor]

its not missing textures, its all under one material for the avi

[desert elk]

misaligned UV maps?

[prisma thunder]

My next guess ^

[bright vapor]

nope they're fine in blender

thats why i included the blender image to begin with

[desert elk]

double check if you're using the correct texture in unity

[bright vapor]

there's only one image file for the entire avatar

[desert elk]

what shader are you using?

[bright vapor]

standard

[desert elk]

lite?

the quest one?

[bright vapor]

no, just standard

[desert elk]

okay

[desert elk]

did you export it from that blender file looking like this?

[bright vapor]

i dont follow the line of questioning

[desert elk]

maybe it freaked how having this many things in that project. You have like 5 different armatures and at least 3 meshes.

[bright vapor]

ah

[desert elk]

which makes me believe that that avatar has more than one material slot

could be just using the wrong one

[bright vapor]

i just pressed A, which doesnt pick up any of those

or atleast it shouldnt?

let me try

Removing them

[ember escarp]

when youre exporting the FBX from blender make sure you check the box for only selected items

[bright vapor]

it's the same

[ember escarp]

Could it possibly be face orientation or overlapping vertices?

[bright vapor]

?

[ember escarp]

inside blender, click these options and if your mesh appears red then the program sees it as "inside-out" youd want to press alt+n with all your mesh selected to flip the faces.

[bright vapor]

nope it's blue

[ember escarp]

hmm this seems frustrating, i think i would save incremental and try to clean up the blender file before exporting again, i do notice that your characters arm position is in a different pose in unity vs blender so i think that might be an indicator youre exporting the wrong mesh but i might be reaching with that.

[bright vapor]

yeah thats a reach, its just rest vs pose position

[desert elk]

honestly, I know that sounds stupid, but I'd switch the three textures you have for some random colours, pink, green, yellow... just to see if they're even being registered and where they're being registered. If you know what I mean

[ember escarp]

nah thats a good idea, just the unlit > color shader to see where the materials are going.

[bright vapor]

🥺

so it is some weird uv issue?? even though the uvs are proper in blender

[ember blade]

Alright, this might be my last message. I just have some questions.
2. Why is there a green box around my avatar, even if it's not seen in public?

[ember escarp]

oh man where di those rainbow colours come from lol. its hard to say if its UV cause the white face in unity shows the seams you made for the face right?

[bright vapor]

static texture

[bright vapor]

yep, it showsv the seams for everything properly

[ember escarp]

did you accidently change any of these settings here?

[bright vapor]

no

[bright vapor]

somehow im wondering if the material chose the wrong UV somehow?

though i dont even know how i would mess with that

[ember blade]

Ok; one question answered

[arctic ginkgo]

this is the test version, which is local only and can only be built to the platform you're testing on. The green box is the bounding box, which is shown in the turnstyle preview of the test avatars

basically you didn't upload the avatar

you just built it

so what you did was create the avatar, have the file packaged up for vrchat to read, and then kept on your computer. So YOUR game can see it, but it isn't on VRChat's servers

this is used for testing purposes

[ember blade]

Ok, is this where you can say what platform the avatar can be on?

[ember blade]

Thank you

[narrow yoke]

I have not been able to get 'Build and test' working for a long time, every avatar I use it for just shows up as the error avatar

[arctic ginkgo]

yes, make sure when you upload the avatar that you click "build and publish", not "build and test"

[ember blade]

Oo, last question:

What selected platform should I use for Quest?

[arctic ginkgo]

android

quest uses android os

[ember blade]

You are just the most helpful person today, thank you

[arctic ginkgo]

windows = desktop + pcvr
android = quest + android mobile
ios = apple mobile (currently closed beta)

[narrow yoke]

Oh cool, I found a bug 😄
Build and test does NOT work if the avatar game object has a '+' in its name 😄

[arctic ginkgo]

you can report on vrchat canny if you haven't already

https://feedback.vrchat.com/

[narrow yoke]

I literally just figured it out, been an issue for me for a long time I just never felt like caring enough

[raven ore]

So, I have been trying to figure this out for a bit, I havent really been able to find any tutorials on it, but I am trying to swap hand gestures on an avatar I bought, but I can't seem to get it to work

[somber sequoia]

the actual avatar hand movements, or the avatar facial movements caused by IRL hand gestures?

[raven ore]

Im looking to swap the rock and roll hand gesture for a middle finger one lol

I have the animation, I added it into my animations folder in unity, I swapped out this with the name and the new animation, but it still doesnt work, is there something else I am missing?

[somber sequoia]

which animator are you working in there?

[round comet]

Having an issue with my model where even when I apply physbones to certain bones they don’t work?

For this one in particular I’m trying to add phys to her chest

Any reason this could be happening?

Adding it to any chest bone just doesn’t work

[somber sequoia]

specifically which bone are you adding a physbone component to?

yeah don't put physbones on humanoid bones

[round comet]

I’m trying to add it to her left and right breast bones

Just using vague wording sorry

Just isn’t working though?

[somber sequoia]

yeah here is a case where being precise is important 🙂

show the component of course

[round comet]

Mhm

[somber sequoia]

Also probably the bone chain - is it one bone or multiple?

[round comet]

Each breast bone is made up of 3 apparently

And the left and right is just the root(s)

[somber sequoia]

k, sounds good

[round comet]

But applying a phys to any of them hasn’t worked for me

Just hoping it isn’t a blender issue since my only blender focus is fixing her shorts weightpainting

[raven ore]

you mean this?

[somber sequoia]

Yes, I meant which animator is that? FX? You don't do hand gestures in FX, you do them in Gesture.

In FX you have the "hands make face expressions" animations. In Gesture you have the actual hand gestures.

sure are a lot of masks there, interesting. But that looks like an FX animator based on what else is in it

[raven ore]

I am in the FX menu, I dont see a gesture menu

[somber sequoia]

Yeah you don't have one - you'll need to make one

[raven ore]

How can it have gestures if it doesnt have one?

[somber sequoia]

(to be specific about terms: menus are different - these are animators)

it has the default ones VRChat provides if you don't make one

[north sonnet]

Can i get help pls

[somber sequoia]

where "this" is what specifically?

[north sonnet]

this is the main error

[somber sequoia]

I don't use vrc fury and there is a discord for it, but in reading that it seems clear - you can only install gogo loco via VRC Fury if you don't also have the gogo loco animators installed. probably you want to remove those, or install gogo loco the manual way

[dawn kayak]

what do i use to make an avatar

[somber sequoia]

Unity at the least

depends on what part you're talking about

[dawn kayak]

idk ive never made one but i wanna try to start so i can make my own

can i use blender

[somber sequoia]

You can use blender to model and rig and animate, but you need Unity to make your 3D model into a VRChat avatar

[dawn kayak]

alright i will probably try to look up aq youtube tutorial

[somber sequoia]

good plan

[warm glacier]

Trying to take these ear pieces but they're attached to the whole clothes set and every time I delete the bones the model turns into a giant. Kinda lost on what to do or how to @.@
Thinking that the clothes were actually part of the avatar

[somber sequoia]

edit that mesh, select all faces you want, 'p' to make it its own mesh object, use that however you like.

not sure about the giant part, probably you have un-applied transforms, you probably want to apply them first

[warm glacier]

got it o.o

Got the parts I wanted, what was the bind/tool to center the fbx so it doesn't have a strange placement when I bring it to unity? >.> Sorry I never blender

[spark walrus]

Is there a "best" type of blendshape for VRCFT?

Like between ARKit, UE, and SRa?

[somber sequoia]

there's a discord for VRCFT, that might be the best place to ask

[spark walrus]

I cant unless I want to make an entire forum post about it. I dont feel like this question is nessecary for that lol

[somber sequoia]

ahh

I admit I haven't done much more than just glance around there yet

[compact dust]

#avatar-general message (anyone got ideas)

[spark walrus]

I tried searching for if anyone had said they preferred one over the other but as far as I saw nobody had

[rain wave]

hey does anyone know how to fix this issue?

[compact dust]

change the heirarchy so that the hand is the child of lower arm, and lower arm is the child of upper arm

i believe

might be wrong, not an arm nerd

[bright silo]

Personally I've never had these cause problems.
Though to fix them, without unpacking the model, you'll need to rename the bones in blender that are parented to the Arm and Leg bones so the first letter is later in the alphabet than the humanoid bones.

So if it's twist bones for example, you'd name the bone z_ElbowTwist and it'll be put below the Left/Right Elbow bone

[ashen crane]

omg ive never had this problem before, but whenever i go into play mode using the gesture manager, it puts my avatar into the bike pose like if i was animating it, please someone help i have no idea what i did

[compact dust]

👍
yeppers

[rough night]

Can somone teach me how to upload

[bright silo]

do you have the gesture manager object selected when you go into play mode?

[ashen crane]

yes

[bright silo]

how far have you gotten?

[rough night]

So I have unity dowlpded

I have cc downloaded vrc fury downloaded

I have everything downloaded just don’t know what to do

I mean I have a general knowledge I think I’m stuck on making the avi file a unity project

[ashen crane]

like i can do hand gestures and whatnot, but toggles dont work, and the avi is constantly in the bike pose....

[bright silo]

I'm trying to replicate it currently. When in play mode, in gesture manager>debug>Avatar>Tracking Control, is everything set to tracking or Animation?

[ashen crane]

tracking

[bright silo]

Create the avatar project with the Vcc. Ensure you select the 2022 avatar project from the options

[rough night]

I’ve done that

I have 2022.3

Open rn

Idk how to get the file into unity

[bright silo]

As long as it’s 2022.3.22.
What’s the file type you have?

[rough night]

Uhhh good question

I have alll that

But than I get errors

[bright silo]

Hmm, I can’t seem to replicate it myself. I’m not super familiar with the technical side of gesture manager. I’ll keep trying, see if I can manage anything.
Have you tried deleting and adding the gesture manager again? Or tried it with a different model, like the example,please robot avatar?

[bright silo]

This is good. You want to import this. What errors is it giving you?

[rough night]

This is what I’m stock at

[compact dust]

double click the unity symbol

[ashen crane]

i already tried deleting and adding gesture manager again, havent tried w the robot avi, lemme do that rq

[compact dust]

it should open a complete scene and all you have to do is upload