avatar-help

[inland seal]

ok

[somber sequoia]

Whatever conditions your avatar was in in the game when this thing happened, you must recreate in Blender.

[desert elk]

so you have any errors on your avatar?

[plain mural]

how can i change MOVEMENT in crouch/crawl animations? i can replace idle crouch/crawl animations but i can't replace movement (and character sniffs ground)

is this even possible?

[civic wadi]

yeah but i pressed auto fix and selected all of them and they arent going away

[desert elk]

the ones that say "select' you need to fix manually

show the errors

[civic wadi]

ok

[civic wadi]

there

[desert elk]

hmm if those are the only errors uploading shouldn't be a problem

try making a new project and moving the avatar there, maybe unity is just stuck

[civic wadi]

ok

[inland seal]

This is how it looks

Not a single one that could do this:

[somber sequoia]

you're wasting your time with these pictures, there's nothing I can tell you about this from here

[inland seal]

You asked me to turn all blendshapes 😭

[somber sequoia]

you could try clicking on each and every vertex in that area to see which one has zero weight paint

[inland seal]

It has nothing to do with blendshapes. trust me 😭

[somber sequoia]

I didn't say to turn "all" blendshapes.

[plain mural]

bro just take the head bone and move it to the side (left or right)

usually the vertex will appear

[inland seal]

Doesnt work

I did try

[somber sequoia]

I've tried that a few times, now, kinda giving up here.

[plain mural]

can you send me the file?

[inland seal]

why should I?

If you want to help you can just call me in discord

[plain mural]

I don't speak English well

[inland seal]

damn

welp

Ig Ill just wait for someone to help me

[junior void]

...

[somber sequoia]

Beware of DMs you'll now get from scammers - instead go to the VRC Traders discord to commission someone.
Link is in #1204490664637890580

[light charm]

it literally JUST started doing this, i haven't updated it since yesterday, and yesterday this was not a problem... (stretchy mesh)

[alpine cipher]

Okay thanks

[junior void]

I cant tell what im looking at

[light charm]

do you see the feather that's stretching out from the body?

[desert elk]

unweighted vertice probably

same problem as the person before

[light charm]

no, it literally just started happening, it had no problems yesterday

[junior void]

Its either weight or blendshape

[somber sequoia]

oh I totally didn't see that at first. Always helps to describe the problem

[light charm]

i did, i put (stretchy mesh)

[junior void]

It may be that a blendshape causing this was not used til now

Or movement

Aka weight. Never say never

[light charm]

ok yup i know the problem now
i removed a bone i wasn't supposed to

it's weird that it never showed up until now, the problem i mean

[glass condor]

Quick question: If an avatar is too large to load on a platform, does that mean it won't appear at all? I'm uploading a quest version of an avi.

[alpine cipher]

Someone tried to make me pay before doing a two second process....... I should have trusted you more lol

[civic wadi]

i did this 3 times and restarted my computer did it another 3 times then restarted again and did it another 3 times and it STILL didnt work

[devout galleon]

@junior void i am sending you a virtual kiss.

[desert elk]

i have no idea why then

[civic wadi]

yeah its weird

[devout galleon]

also i need some help, is there any way to rotate my VRC avatar descriptor

so im not looking backwards

[somber sequoia]

that itself shouldn't really have an orientation - maybe you mean the viewpoint?

[devout galleon]

yea

like how do i know

[somber sequoia]

in the avatar descriptor is the viewpoint controls

[willow tree]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

I figured out what i did wrong finally, the tool in blender i used is called CATS and can automatically fix any rigging issues for vrchat and i wasnt using the tool properly,

[somber sequoia]

Don't go thinking that fixes any rigging issues, though it does help with some 🙂

[fallow gulch]

Yeah, it is not all rigging issues that it can fix for sure
But glad it worked out for you in this case

[devout galleon]

ok

the vrc descriptor

is giving me a view in the back of my head

how do i fix this?

if anyone knows

fixed

thanks

[untold minnow]

What do I do with the finished fbx in blender? Do I just import it into unity and then the fbx fixes itself the the model?

[frank cypress]

Guys I have a super weird thing with an avi. 2 people using the same avatar. One of them is from Pc, and sees the Quest version flying, and the quest person sees the avi under the ground. is exactly the same avatar and there's no playspace or whatever, and they're both the wsame height. Any ideas?

[desert elk]

if your avatar backwards in unity?

[desert elk]

you import the fbx to unity and set it up there

[junior void]

I wish it just "fixed" itself😂

[desert elk]

yeah same xd

[somber sequoia]

I wish many things just fixed themselves.

[untold minnow]

How do I do that if I may ask?

[desert elk]

drag it into the assets 😉

[untold minnow]

It’s in my assets

In my fbx folder

[desert elk]

great 👍 you can set it up now

[untold minnow]

How

[desert elk]

That's too broad of a question

[untold minnow]

I see

[desert elk]

search up a tutorial if you have no unity knowledge

[untold minnow]

Ok

I have knowledge but only basic knowledge like how to update and properly fix some things if broken

But this is my first time uploading with a base that I customized

[devout galleon]

does anyone know if i can make my avatar PC and Quest compatible so that both can see my avatar?

[desert elk]

yeah,

upload two versions with the same blueprint id

[solar rapids]

i got a better screenshot now

[solar rapids]

i cant upload any avatars cuz of that

[untold minnow]

I’m so stuck on what to do

I have the fbx

But there is no prefab

[untold minnow]

It’s the middle one

[desert elk]

did you make the avatar yourself?

[untold minnow]

Yes

[desert elk]

then just drag it to the hierarchy

[untold minnow]

It’s in the hierarchy

[desert elk]

then what's the problem?

[untold minnow]

I can’t upload it

[desert elk]

read the message

and do what it says.

[rare ocean]

Help

[somber sequoia]

again, install whatever requirement is missing

[clever cloak]

ive cut down on a lot of the red but im wondering if in unity there is any way to lower the number of triangles

and materials

i am trying to make a quest version and have it be like poor instead of very poor

these seem to be the only materials so i am not sure how its getting that high

[desert elk]

to my knowledge there isn't a way to do that in unity. Blender yes, unity I don't think so

[clever cloak]

i see

imposter it is

[desert elk]

each game object that has a material is treated as a new material

[clever cloak]

ill learn blender soon but that time is not now

[desert elk]

you must have 23 materials somewhere there

[clever cloak]

oh i see some of these have like 4-5 materials in one

[desert elk]

yeah,

[narrow yoke]

Well, im at a bit of a loss... Updated my avatar project to the latest packages in the creator companion, and did nearly nothing to it, but now 3 of 4 avatars (All with the same base import fbx) have weird animation things happening to them when in play mode, and everythings a bit funky when uploaded

[clever cloak]

Hm, despite uploading the avatar with android as the build and using the same blueprint as the pc one the avatar is still not shown as quest compatible

Bizarre

[torn mango]

Anyone experience an issue in Unity 2022 of having an avatar as a prefab in the scene, editing the fbx in blender, doing a proper export, then the avatar in the Unity scene is fine except the physbone components loose all root transform references? Tried in 2019 and no issue, but same thing in 2022 and it's loosing root transform reference to all physbones.

[clever cloak]

I’ve uploaded worse optimized avatars onto quest before but maybe the new restrictions are getting in the way

And I won’t be able to get this on quest at all unless I back port it into blender

[somber sequoia]

can happen if you change around something about the avatar - do you keep your physbones in a separate prefab (I do)?

[torn mango]

no just a child object in the avatar, it's part of the avatar prefab though

[somber sequoia]

if the physbone component is on a bone you don't need the same bone in the root transform slot

[torn mango]

blender work was just a simple mesh edit

[clever cloak]

Can one combine meshes in unity or do I need to go to blender for that

[somber sequoia]

blender

[clever cloak]

Shit

Alright tomorrow I’ll do that

[torn mango]

It's just strange it's working fine in 2019

[somber sequoia]

huh

[torn mango]

avatar in scene as a prefab, blender edit of mesh, proper fbx export. scene in 2019: physbone components keep root transforms. 2022: most loose reference

[clever cloak]

I can’t really fathom how this avatar is this unoptimized it looks pretty basic to me

Why does unity even let me upload the avatar on android if it doesn’t work that’s really stupid tbh

[narrow yoke]

Idk why but my blend shapes are doing realllly weird things when going into play mode 🤔

[clever cloak]

They should notify me that it won’t upload due to its optimization

[patent geyser]

Is there a way to update all the packages at once? Clicking them all is annoying.

[somber sequoia]

I do it with a shell script and the command-line tool, vpm. Maybe not for everyone 🙂

[clever cloak]

i think im just gonna have the quest people see the imposter blender seems like a hassle

next time i make the avatar ill start in blender and do all this first

instead of saving it for last

[untold minnow]

I apologize for burdening you with such simple questions

I forgot to apologize

That made me feel a little incompetent

[patent geyser]

?

[somber sequoia]

I'd be happy to answer questions if you can actually word them.

[weak briar]

any advice on how to make the eye socket for "anime" style eyes ? I already figured out, how to create the eyes itself, but the eyes still look weird when placed in the socket

this is the inside

should i Just make the sockets bigger ?

[somber sequoia]

hmm, I'd have made the eyeballs round, though it doesn't seem your face shape would make that easy

[weak briar]

i followed this way of making the eyes

gives it a 3d look from the side, even tho its technically flat

[left gull]

most would make the socket a bit deeper (the eye rounder/more oval shaped like kazin said) and have their eyelashes seperated from the actual face mesh to avoid the weirdness happening inside the red section

[somber sequoia]

oh interesting

[weak briar]

good point, I just extruded it to see if it would help. when im making the final model, I will separate it like you said

[somber sequoia]

I keep mine merged at export but separate in blender

[left gull]

i do my eyes as mainly flat/semi caved in to give a tracking effect so i dont need to setup actual bones for my eyes but it's iffy for non-exaggerated/big eyes with each piece seperate from each other until i merge before export

the more hollowed out the eye socket (and further back the eye is) the better the effect can get if you're trying to avoid dead straight eyes

[mossy jacinth]

has anyone ever had an issue with toggles triggered by contact receivers randomly failing to show globally to random players? i even tested with shields off.

is it a bug i should report? or is it my fault?

[mild comet]

can somone tell me what im missing

[safe berry]

Check the 1-Body object on your avatar and see if there is a missing script component. If you know what it is you can import the script and reimport the avatar, if not, and the functionality isn't needed, you can just go ahead and yeet the missing script

Heya folks, I'm trying to make a little disclaimer that says I'm half shown, but want to make sure it shows up properly for people that have me half shown/shown without shaders. How can I test that in unity, and should I ensure that the half shown disclaimer is the default unity unlit shader or would poiyomi without much effects work fine?

[mild comet]

idk what to put

[safe berry]

If you bought the avatar read the instructions on what they tell you to import. If you don't have any additional context, go ahead and just remove it, but it may break some functionality, potentially. Some things that come to mind are probably vrcfury isn't in your project but that is a complete guess without knowing the avatar you have

[mild comet]

It's a bought avi but it doesn't talk about this issue and vrcfurry is In the project

[safe berry]

Is there a README or something similar in a zip that you downloaded?

[mild comet]

Ya there's instructions but they pretty useless

[safe berry]

Only advice I can offer is to re-read them carefully and look at any mention of packages or assets. The order you import stuff in does matter. But without more info, folks really can't help much because it can be any number of scripts

[mild comet]

this is all it gives

[somber sequoia]

I love that misspelling

[safe berry]

Loll, yeah thats not much help is it

[mild comet]

plus its quest, for now it upload so ill go see if its running okay

i removed the script for now

[safe berry]

Heyo Kazin, I know you're a big brain folk- can I point you to my shenanigans to see if you can help?

[safe berry]

Shenanigan here

[patent geyser]

Wish unity remembered my login.

[somber sequoia]

Please don't ping me to ask for help

[safe berry]

My bad boss man, yknow what they say out of assuming and all that, you and me

Thank you for being kind about it, cheers

[desert cloak]

Does anyone know why enforce t-pose doesn't stick and resets after clicking done?

[safe berry]

Do you have a dedicated FBX, or are you using the auto import blender workflow?

[violet cobalt]

So I've set up a prosthetic arm but it comes with a transformation animation that i have to apply and I'm not sure how to do it. the arm itself doesn't have any fxcontrol/animator or whatever so I'm a little lost

It also came with an fbx but I'm not sure how those work

[somber sequoia]

you have no gesture controller - is your avatar not humanoid? that might be an issue.

[violet cobalt]

It should be humanoid. As for the gesture controller, where can I find it?

[leaden ice]

needing some help with avatar uploading, getting the failed security checks message when trying to use avatars

any help appreciated

[ornate stump]

Make sure that you're using latest sdk.

[leaden ice]

using the 2022 avatar sdk via the VRC companion app

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot package list in vcc?

[leaden ice]

plus a vroid to vrchat sdk

[violet cobalt]

And for the record, even if this thing has an fbx, it's not like the animation is built into that right? So there's no real need to use it

[ornate stump]

Then also screenshot performance status reported by the sdk.

[leaden ice]

is that the errors and stuff that pops up on the VRC builder tab?

sorry im new to this

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[ornate stump]

You rather have to link armature. And do not put avatar descriptor on the arm.

[ornate stump]

Look fine so far. You might have to try build and upload again.

[leaden ice]

posting this makes me look dumb af but following the tutorial i was watching they had the same

[leaden ice]

it took like an 1hr 30mins to upload for some reason

was really struggling

[violet cobalt]

could you elaborate a bit more on link armature?

and i've removed the avatar descriptor

I had to manually set up the arm

[ornate stump]

Link armature mean making nested object's bones to move along with the avatar's bones. Lookup for vrcfury armature link.

[violet cobalt]

oh so i didn't have to do all that

good to know

nope nevermind armature link doesn't seem to work

[leaden ice]

reuploaded but still failed security checks

read that avatars over 500mb uncompressed can sometimes fail?

[ornate stump]

Will always failed.
But yours doesn't exceed that.

[leaden ice]

alrighty

[ornate stump]

Then you could open support ticket to have vrc team to look at it in case of false positive.

[leaden ice]

in discord or website?

[ornate stump]

#vrchat-support

[leaden ice]

awesome thanks for your help c:

[violet cobalt]

It's really weird that neither Armature Link nor MA Outfit Setup work with this arm

I definitely underestimated the amount of work I'd have to put into setting this up

[broken kraken]

is it possible to have an avatar object send a text string to a world object upon a request?

[ornate stump]

No. Not possible.

Event avatar itself can't hold a text string.

[solemn hound]

i don't find this 😕

[ornate stump]

Did you install the tool?

[solemn hound]

yes

[ornate stump]

Check console for errors.

[patent geyser]

Uh, so a blendshape isn't saving. Why would that be? I'm running Gesture Manager to see if things save, but they're definitely not saving. Her pupils poof.

I don't know why it won't save.

[ornate stump]

Likely it's being controlled by animations. Face expression that is.

[patent geyser]

I don't know which one it would be.

[ornate stump]

Check all of them then.

[patent geyser]

...i don't know how either...

[rapid wharf]

Blend shapes won't work, enabling legacy blend shape normals in unity will give import warnings in unity and then the warning states that the model has no smoothing groups.

[ornate stump]

You have to check for error that's red. Yellows are warnings and can be ignored.

[patent geyser]

empty

im just guessing double clicking it how idk

[ornate stump]

You open Animation window to see content of animation clip.

[patent geyser]

theres nothing names eyes

[rapid wharf]

its just a yellow but all my blendshapes dont work at all

gonna try again in the morning

[patent geyser]

i dont see anything like that

[ornate stump]

You're looking in a wrong animation clip.

[patent geyser]

huh?

[ornate stump]

You know your avatar can have multiple animation clip controlling differents thing? You have to inspect all the clip to find some that's controlling pupil blendshape.

[patent geyser]

no i dont know that

im very very new i have no earthly idea.

[ornate stump]

Now you know. Just look in every animation clip and find the culplit.

[patent geyser]

i dont think im understanding

what is this

what is skinned mesh renderer

this is not helpful

[ornate stump]

It's a part that made up your avatar.

[patent geyser]

okay well i saw nothing that said pupil so

i guess it doesnt exist

[ornate stump]

The blendshape name is written after SkinnedMeshRenderer word, so you have to expand the window to see.

[patent geyser]

doesnt seem to be

still nothing

broken program i guess

[ornate stump]

You didn't look at the animation clip controlling face expression.

[patent geyser]

i dont know what thzt is

[ornate stump]

Have you actually look through all the animation clip?

[patent geyser]

all the ones in the !Sol folder yes

im going through nsfw ones now :/

idk where they all are. people spazz out and throw crap in every folder everywhere so i have to find them all e.e

https://tenor.com/view/stressed-out-stress-panic-nervous-gif-18153657

[clever cloak]

huh?

[patent geyser]

found. im not sure what t do now. its flashing in and out

theyre the gestures.

but i have gestures disabled.

annoying

[plain mural]

how can i change MOVEMENT in crouch/crawl animations? i can replace idle crouch/crawl animations but i can't replace movement (and character sniffs ground)

is this even possible?

[crisp trail]

simple question why is this part greyed out. im trying to change the shaders and add in textures but i cant do anything as it is rn

[ornate stump]

Embed material in fbx file can't be editted. You have to either extract material, or create new material and replace.

[crisp trail]

how do i extract?

im very new to this and just know enough to get everything in

[ornate stump]

Inspect FBX file, see material tab.

[static sparrow]

my bf's unity isnt wanting to switch over to quest. why is that??

[crisp trail]

the bottom window where materials are displayed?

[ornate stump]

Inspecting mean selecting something and see in Inspector panel. That means you have to select your FBX file.

[crisp trail]

okay i have the main fbx file clicked onto. with the window on the right displaying the materials.

[ornate stump]

"Extract Material" right there.

[crisp trail]

ahh thank you

now i can apply textures.

there we go much better now

[desert elk]

did you install android support?

[desert elk]

you must be using a shader meant only for worlds

[desert elk]

unfortunately unity doesn't make it clear which is which

[sonic escarp]

how do I stop the metal accessories from flashing like this? it's on every metal piece of the avatar and it's bugging the hell out of me

[ornate stump]

You will have to tell what shader you're using.

[sonic escarp]

it's all from poiyomi toon

unless you want something more specific? (I'm not good at this stuff)

[ornate stump]

There is lot of options that could make it metallic shine. So try disable feature one by one first to identity which option is causing it.

[solemn hound]

is fine but no in game lol

[ebon tide]

Anyone know how to stop blendshapes from freaking out like this? QwQ

[sonic escarp]

trying to do that but I'm dealing with this now and I can't uncheck low resolution for play mode

or change angle for that matter

[solemn hound]

nvm i fix it by myself

[ornate stump]

You just have to switch back to Scene panel.

[plucky wren]

Folks, I just migrated a bunch of data to a new SSD. This included all my VRC CC Projects.
Opening VRC CC does not have an easy option to identify new paths for projects for the projects list, unless when creating a new project in the new destination folder - even after having done this though, I do not have anyway for the VRC CC to recognise the projects that are there and present.
Is there some way I am supposed to redirect the VRC CC to identify the old projects and their folders now they are in a new SSD?

[sonic escarp]

then is there a different way to see the flashes while I mess around with the settings that isn't play mode?

[ornate stump]

It's more because of viewing angle change so you just have to move scene camera around.

[ebon tide]

If I remove the weights it fixes but then of course it has no weight painting :P

[arctic ginkgo]

that's because it's attached to the arms

default pose is tpose

blendshapes are applied before armature movement

so it shrinks inside the body, then the sleeves get pushed out

solution is you shrink everything along normals

so sleeves shrink inside the arms, not inside the torso

[ebon tide]

Thank you so much

[clever cloak]

strange issue, i was testing my new avatar on quest (i got it optomized enough to upload) and the hand tracking doesn't seem to activate gestures at all

just curious if this is solveable in unity

or if its like a headset issue or vrchat game thing

[solemn hound]

Anyone can help me with a heels problem

[kindred vapor]

How do I stop the feet from readjusting back and stand in the intended pose?

[desert elk]

do you have gestures activated in the circle menu?

[clever cloak]

yes

i suspect it is an issue with the avatar itself not the game

[desert elk]

do the gestures work on pc?

[clever cloak]

i have not checked ill go do that now

[desert elk]

Shift + F1 - F8 to use gestures on desktop mode

[clever cloak]

oh like on desktop yea they work

the gestures work on controller as well

its specifically hand tracking that doesn't work with them

[desert elk]

oh I must've misunderstood

[clever cloak]

all good

[desert elk]

gestures work in general just not hand tracking?

[clever cloak]

yeah

gestures on the avatar work with controller and keyboard

but if i switch to hand tracking they do not

(i use a quest 3 for the record)

with virtual desktop

to play on steam

[junior void]

turn off the auto step thing in the avatar descriptor. its just a checkbox, very smol

[clever cloak]

noted that i also tested it on just the quest, not on pc

so its not a virtual desktop or steam vr thing

[desert elk]

yeah that's what I was gonna suggest next

huh that's weird

[clever cloak]

very specific issue that tbh isn't like the end of the world but ideally i find a fix eventually

is there like a place in unity to manage gestures?

im looking at the animator rn

for left and right hand

[desert elk]

the gesture layer

[kindred vapor]

Thank you. I'll try that now.

[desert elk]

under playable layers

[clever cloak]

its just set as the default

[random sphinx]

Left - AO
Right No AO
which one looks better?

[desert elk]

so empty?

[clever cloak]

yeah

[clever cloak]

left imo

the shading adds depth to the hair

[random sphinx]

cooooool

[desert elk]

try adding a gesture layer. You can grab a premade one from the SDK, I think it was called something like "Hand layer"? search for hand and it should show up somewhere, I don't remember exactly and I don't have my laptop with me rn

maybe that could fix it

I've never uploaded an avi without layers so maybe that could be what's happening

[clever cloak]

yeah probably

i bought this avatar off someone a while back so ive just been learning more about how to do this stuff as theres some things they don't have

eventually ill make my own from scratch in blender but that is for another time

[desert elk]

or you can use a gesture layer from gogo loco, it has one too

easier to find for sure xd

[clever cloak]

oh ill just do that

i think i own that

[desert elk]

it's free so even if you don't, you can get it

[young matrix]

Hey, so i need help with a eye issue on a avatar. The blinking works fine in blender via the cats create eye tracking. but in unity when making the eye blicking ect it for some reason just doesnt work at all as well as eye movement of any kind not sure why. blend shapes all work find as well

[clever cloak]

oh swag

[solemn hound]

is a way possible to make heels pose for this

[desert elk]

"doesn't work"? do the eyes turn white? do they not rotate properly?

[solemn hound]

i mean is a clothes with a heels and i try to change it on blender

[young matrix]

They rotate fine and dont turn white all that works fine

just creating blinking and how the descriptor is making the animations it doesn't seem to work its the weirdest thing

let me get some screen shots

[clever cloak]

one of these?

[desert elk]

yup!

[clever cloak]

cool thanks

[desert elk]

yeah, show your set up

[clever cloak]

any setting up i should do or is it just drag and drop

into the layer

[radiant tree]

I also Have a problem if anyone knows this?

[kindred vapor]

It worked, thanks again ❤️

[radiant tree]

Everything is correct on the rig, i hand did it in blender, but i don't know why it's acting up in unity and not letting me upload.

[desert elk]

drag and drop

[desert elk]

show your hierarchy

[desert elk]

neck lower is the problem

[solemn hound]

i need help about this...

[desert elk]

you have two neck bones, you need one

try putting neck lower in the rig configuration

maybe that would fix it

[young matrix]

just different pics showing the blendshape is working and that everything is fine in blender. ive done a lot of different stuff like joining the meshes, naming the bones different things but all seems to resault in more or less the same thing

[radiant tree]

watch it bug out on me when it does that lol

[young matrix]

its blinking in blender but when i set it up in unity it doesnt do anything

[kindred vapor]

I believe you need to fix it with blendshapes.

[solemn hound]

what is that 😢

[desert elk]

did you press preview?

[young matrix]

ive made a loot of different stuff its the first time ive had this problem, ya i pressed preview

[desert elk]

hmm, no idea then, the only thing that comes to my mind is you having 6 different eye bones, but I don't think that should affect blinking blendshapes

[solemn hound]

I just want to know how to make an animation so that the foot tilts when that clothing is equipped

[young matrix]

yaaa those are probably from all the restarts ive done lol. im gunna try it in a different project, thank u for ur help anywayss

[kindred vapor]

They're shape keys that basically help you change/morph your avatar's body. So like if the feet are clipping like that, you can fix it with blendshapes.

[radiant tree]

I also have one more thing to ask, does anyone know how to do outlines in blender without destroying the model's blendshapes? cause whenever i do it, the model's blendshapes just lock up.

[kindred vapor]

Are you using a booth avatar?

[solemn hound]

yes

[kindred vapor]

You should be able to click on the avatar's body until it's highlighted orange, go to the inspector and there should be a "blendshapes" drop down.

[solemn hound]

ok

[kindred vapor]

"Feet heel" or "feet high heel" or something along those lines would be the two that will fix it

[young matrix]

blinking works now, i made a new unity project and it fixed it. really weird lol

[solemn hound]

ok i do it

it works but there's a way to make an animation when i equip the clothes do that ? or is not possible

[radiant tree]

neck works now, now i need to do the quest side, which now i gotta figure out quest outlines without destroying the visemes.

[kindred vapor]

I'm not sure what you mean. An animation when you equip the clothes?

[solemn hound]

yes and make that option on or is not possible

[kindred vapor]

I'm not sure what you mean by that.

[solemn hound]

I have other clothes that don't use heels so I don't want to have my foot tilted all the time if there is a way to make animation when equipping certain clothes

[kindred vapor]

Ah, the only way that I know personally is to use the dressing tools

[solemn hound]

what is that

[kindred vapor]

https://youtu.be/XeoRxdCxGsI?si=cg-tMXSVW708Q1Re This tutorial will help you.

[random sphinx]

you could do weight painting and blender

[desert elk]

you could add the blendshape to the clothes animation

[random sphinx]

but thats painful

[desert elk]

just edit the animation that puts on the specific clothing and add a blendshape to it

[kindred vapor]

I've never tried that before! I'll have to try it sometime.

[random sphinx]

also i cant reccomend robust weight transfer enough

if youre doing blender stuff it is an absolute life saver

[kindred vapor]

I see! I find that the dressing tool is quick and easy with adding multiple outfits and doing blendshapes.

[clever cloak]

Still having no luck

[desert elk]

oh my that's you meant

[clever cloak]

made a video to showcase the issue

[desert elk]

stupid bot

I double misunderstood 😎

[clever cloak]

all good lol

[random sphinx]

excuse me??????????

[clever cloak]

woah

[random sphinx]

i think its a bug

[desert elk]

it's an error that shows up as a result of a different error

[random sphinx]

i only have 450k

[desert elk]

fix the rest of the errors and it will fix itself

[random sphinx]

still a lot

but

oh neat its the 32 bit integer limit!

[desert elk]

I misunderstood the issue, apologies, video very helpful! Yeah, that's normal I think. As far as I know there's no way to activate facial expressions with hand tracking movements. Because it tracks the buttons you press on your controller not the way your hands look. Sorry, I think there's no fix

[clever cloak]

ah i see, all good that makes sense

shame but understandable issue

[desert elk]

I thought you couldn't make hand gestures and your hand was stuck in the idle state 😅

[clever cloak]

what confuses me a bit more tho is an article was written with this issue

https://ask.vrchat.com/t/quest-hand-gestures-not-working/35438

[random sphinx]

michaelsoft binbows

[clever cloak]

and someone put in a "fix" list

[clever cloak]

I want to go to that building so bad

[random sphinx]

first vrc world idea for me

[clever cloak]

i skipped it my last 2 japan trips but this next one i 100000% will go

[random sphinx]

oh im so nervous

im compiling my new avi

and im gonna test the shaders in game

[clever cloak]

always fun

[desert elk]

Try them maybe? I'm not sure what else to suggest

[clever cloak]

im glad i have a quest headset now so i don't need to track down and harass a random quest user to see if they can see me

[desert elk]

off topic but you have a very nice voice 👍

[clever cloak]

thanks

[clever cloak]

all good, its not like a major deal

[random sphinx]

traumatised

[clever cloak]

damn

[random sphinx]

said shader woes

that was my old avi

retired her cause she was an edit and becoming too stupidf

learnt a hell of a lot screwing around with her tho

that sounds HORRIBLE out of context

[desert elk]

no worries we get what you mean

[clever cloak]

yeah ive been fucking around in unity with asset stuff for i think just over 2 years now but i am still very new to all of this

[desert elk]

I'm the same xd

[random sphinx]

its been 2 months for me

im making my first custom now

[clever cloak]

i think custom is next for me

[random sphinx]

can you tell i have no life>

[clever cloak]

blender learning time

[random sphinx]

good luck

[clever cloak]

i mean the first sign was vrchat in general but yes

[random sphinx]

and may your pc not crash

[clever cloak]

ah if only

[random sphinx]

cause it will

over

and

over

[clever cloak]

my pc is cursed by ancient demons

deadass i cannot make it a single week without it pulling some bullshit on me

[random sphinx]

sometimes my rtx 4080 turns into the tx408

[clever cloak]

yeah my file browser has been getting real slow lately i need to fix that

and one of my hard drives randomly disconnects

[random sphinx]

is your ssd full

[desert elk]

I've got a laptop, it's constantly overheating 😭

[random sphinx]

oh hard drive

yeah that explains it

[clever cloak]

no

oh yeah its an ssd

i just say hard drive out of habit

[random sphinx]

ok

[clever cloak]

i do the same with ethernet and wifi

[random sphinx]

naw 💀

[clever cloak]

i still have like a terabyte free

[random sphinx]

i just say connection

or internet juice

💀

[clever cloak]

this is throwign me off as im looking around for any gesture setup thing

the animator looks like this

[desert elk]

if you double click on right finger, it'll give you specific hand positions

[clever cloak]

this is gonna be the thing that like ultimately means nothing as far as working on this avatar but ill try to find a fix for like a month

[clever cloak]

oh i see

[desert elk]

but I'm unsure how to "ensure that they're configured to work with hand tracking"

[clever cloak]

ill go see if i can find anything online now that we've narrowed the issue down a lot more

first result is an ai generated slop video thumbnail i fucking hate google man

[desert elk]

god, that's horrible

[random sphinx]

ive never seen a lefthand layer like this before

[desert elk]

it's from gogo loco

[random sphinx]

huh

neat

[desert elk]

that's what they look like

[random sphinx]

mine dont

[desert elk]

maybe you're using a different gogo version?

[random sphinx]

oh thats gogo

[desert elk]

yeah

[random sphinx]

i dont use gogo for hand exps

[desert elk]

now that explains it

[random sphinx]

try this as ur gesture layer https://kirishop.gumroad.com/l/Better_Gestures

[clever cloak]

i may be stupid im gonna test the hand tracking on a random other avatar

so i can see if its an issue with my avatar or the game itself

or like my headset

[desert elk]

that's a good idea

[desert elk]

oh it's basically just differently looking hand gestures

and I assume the layer is also different based on your comment

[random sphinx]

yeah but it diff to gogoloco

yeah

[clever cloak]

ok so it is not my avatar

i think it is just a game thing so im not gonna worry about it any firther

*further

thanks for all the help you've been great

[random sphinx]

yayyyyy

it doesnt look shit

[clever cloak]

nice

shoutout that world i forget its name but its one of my favourites

most of my group instances i host are there

[cedar grail]

how do you make blendshapes change aswell with a Modular Avatar Toggle?

[desert elk]

oo nice

I used to be in a group that hosted stuff there a few months back

[clever cloak]

its been a few months since i played but all the new age verification stuff has gotten me interested in getting back on, we wont need to kick people who sound young anymore its great

figured id set up an updated avatar in advance of its rollout to all users

[desert elk]

that's a nice idea!

and the age verification will be helpful

[clever cloak]

very

[sonic escarp]

I asked this earlier but the only thing that I got in terms of help was to toggle things on and off until it goes away but I'll try again before I go to sleep: how do I stop my accessories from blinking (specifically everything metal on the avatar) It's like there is a light pendulum

[desert elk]

maybe a shader you're using?

[sonic escarp]

idk, it's just a metal shader from poiyomi

if I changed it to something else would it effect the hue shift option?

[feral isle]

Should i be worried?

[junior void]

no (if it works as intended, this is safe to ignore)

[uncut nimbus]

I have set up vrchat FT with Quest Pro. But only Eye tracking is working. I have VRCFT OSC working and alll but it doesnt work..

[feral isle]

I will give it a try

[junior void]

are you using pcvr through a streamer such as virtual desktop (steam)

[uncut nimbus]

steamlink

[junior void]

I had the same issue and turned out i didnt follow the vrcft docs where it specifies to change the port in steam settings

does that sound like you^^

[uncut nimbus]

i did change it to 9015(ALT)

[junior void]

are you running the ft app

and if so, does it say that it gets xxx number of parameters

[uncut nimbus]

yes "67 Legacy Parameters"

[junior void]

why legacy

also which module are you using

i hope steam link one and not the quest pro openxr

[uncut nimbus]

SteamLink VRCFT Module

[junior void]

are you using jerrys face tracking? it has a debug menu where you can see the blendshapes move

[uncut nimbus]

I'm using Triturbo from Booth.pm

[junior void]

in that case i cant help you much. youll have to contact them then

[cedar grail]

how do you make blendshapes change aswell with a Modular Avatar Toggle?

[twin raft]

did you turn it on in the vrcft prefab menu

also, better off asking in the vrcft discord

sounds to me like its a very basic fix but just a bunch of possible ones

[plain mural]

how to make .anim file (like this) from fbx animation?

idk why but my animation look like this
just
nothing changed

[crisp trail]

again struggling with the greyed out ui. i want to have my eye rotate only on the x axis and i know how to do that. just keep all the others at 0. the hard part is tuning it when i cant access any of it

with the mechanical nature of her eye i am really trying to keep it as simple and dumb as i can

[junior void]

fill the other eye bone?

[inland seal]

Very late reply, but I fixed the problem. It wasnt blendshapes, it was because I deleted the Ears completely wich had bones in it ;D

[crisp trail]

the problem is there is only one. gladog has only one eye

[wary surge]

Then make an empty object and add that there

[junior void]

but what stops you from adding another bone and just not weight painting it to anything?

[crisp trail]

nothing but this is my first test avatar im making. i just want this to be done so i can see her in vrc

seems like everything works right. except the hair i need to make that much more girgid

also have no idea wtf is going on with her eye being out of her skull

[junior void]

possible the eye is weight painted to something else (too) other than the eye bone

[crisp trail]

let me open up blender to check. i hope i dont have to set it all up and import the model for a third time

[junior void]

why set up again, just overwrite the fbx (granted, you didnt unpack it which you shouldnt)

[quasi briar]

I haven't specifically dealt with this issue but it could be that you have 2nd specular on poiyomi? You could screenshot your shader settings for us to look at

[crisp trail]

im new to unity and dont know how to do that. thats why

[junior void]

from blender, you export and find the file location of your fbx in your unity project and directly save it to the same location with the same name

[quasi briar]

Export your fbx, copy the file, find the fbx file in unity, paste the new fbx on top and replace it (make sure the name is exactly the same)

BUT first copy the original fbx just in case!

[junior void]

making backus is a given

[crisp trail]

also there is the other problem of the wights not being mirrored correctly

[junior void]

if you dont make backups, its a matter of time til you get bit by it

[crisp trail]

fuck more work on blender side but i am sleepy.

[junior void]

weight mirror not working is often a result of asymmetrical mesh (off by 0.00002 mm is enough)

[crisp trail]

yep...fucking up as normal.

but since its all rigid mechanical parts its not too hard.

is there a fill tool for weight painting on selected verticies? that would make my life so much better

[junior void]

you can use edit mode selection or select here (ctrl + l)

[crisp trail]

yeah i know that but. after that is there a way to fully assign weight values after.

or do i have to drag my mouse all over the screen

[quasi briar]

yes, go to "weights" and "set weight"

[crisp trail]

2.8 ui change is still messing with my mind

[junior void]

use gradient tool, set strength and weight to 1

[quasi briar]

make sure weight is set to 1

[crisp trail]

thank you

[junior void]

also a thing

weight = vertex group

[crisp trail]

i know that much. wight painting and vertex groups are two parts of the same system.

[inland seal]

For some reason the tail gets deleted when I test the game in Unity

[junior void]

not exactly

[quasi briar]

Can you take a picture of your entire hierarchy?

[crisp trail]

anyway different question. why does my hair physics bones phase through the head. should i change the physics bones settings and make them more stiff somehow?

[quasi briar]

I think I get it. The tail is not merged with the body. You can't just add another object with an armature, you must merge it. You can do this manually, or you can tell VRCFury/ModularAvatar to do it for you

[inland seal]

huh

[junior void]

you can either make them more stiff, or use the graph to only make the top stiffer or you create a head collider the hair will collide with

[inland seal]

whats that

[quasi briar]

do you have VRCFury?

[inland seal]

Indeed

[crisp trail]

one of those sounds easier then the other. and also fuck i forgot to apply the solidify so backface culling is messing the hair up as well

[exotic lion]

guys i keep getting a blueprint error in unity i dont know what to do...

[crisp trail]

so many problems im learning the hard way

[quasi briar]

Go onto tail (1) and add a component, type in "Armature Link" and set it to link to hips

Then try to go into play mode again

[junior void]

look at the top most 2-6 errors, not at the bottom ones. scroll up

[quasi briar]

Might need to do that for the 1st tail too

[inland seal]

I already did that

Thats the thing

it doesnt work ;D

Thats why It gives me this error

[quasi briar]

Hmmm

[inland seal]

want to dm me?

so I could show you

[quasi briar]

You can just send it here

Are there any errors further up?

[inland seal]

no

[quasi briar]

Weird

[indigo parrot]

Good morning! I have a question. I uploaded an avatar last night and the eyes are stuck closed unless I do gestures. I tried using VRCFury to make all gestures neutral so this wouldn't happen, but gestures are still causing the eyes to remain closed unless I'm holding both triggers.

Playing on Quest Pro on PCVR with VRCFT if that makes a difference.

Also to add, the avatar is supposed to have antlers, which appear on the avatar preview in my menu, but they don't actually show on the avatar. It uses poiyomi if that matters.

Eyes closed are with no triggers and eyes open are with both triggers.

[junior void]

you have to debug this using play mode in unity and looking at your animation states

[indigo parrot]

Can you provide me with more info on how to do that please? I'm pretty new at this.

[junior void]

youre using the vrchat creator companion?

[indigo parrot]

Yes

[junior void]

when you go there, click manage project, add "gesture manager"

once it imported, go here

itll add one gesture manager component to your project. when you click it then in the hierarchy, youll see the button in the inspector to enter play mode

it would be interesting to see if the eyes immediately close when you click that button or not

[junior void]

are you in prefab edit mode?

[indigo parrot]

Cool, I will try this when I get home later. Thanks!

Any ideas about the missing antlers?

Like I said, they're in the preview on my menu but not on the actual avatar

[exotic lion]

I don't know I've been at this for hours it's my first time uploading a avi

[junior void]

inf they have a toggle, also an animation state issue. it really depends how you make toggles (manually, vrcf, modular avatar)

[inland seal]

I still need help with this. For some reason when I go into play mode the double tails dissapear.

[indigo parrot]

I will do some troubleshooting later then. Thanks!

[junior void]

take an actual screenshot of your project :P

uncropped, really

[inland seal]

Nice picture, I 100% can see everything 😭

[exotic lion]

I don't know how to take a screenshot on windows

[quasi briar]

I have a guess about your issue.. but I can't be certain. The two tails you're adding have the same armature and name as the original regulus tail. Normally when you merge the armature it deletes any bones from the new armature that have the same name as the current armature, since they're supposed to be exactly the same, but adds new bone names to the original armature. Maybe you can try to rename the tail bones in both of the new armatures to something different and see if it works then? Make sure they do not share any names with any other bones

[inland seal]

Win + Shift + R

Or just use Print screen

[quasi briar]

Of course, you could always just add them in blender which would be cleaner

[inland seal]

uh

I can try?

OH UHm

Thx :D

It worked :D

[quasi briar]

Yay! :D

[inland seal]

;3

This was a commision anyways

It should take 1 day

Instead took 4 ;D

[high cipher]

@waxen galleon hey bro I want to talk to you can we talk for a min?

[quasi briar]

Sounds about right. Avatar commissions usually take me at least 2 weeks, and up to a month for full refinement.

[exotic lion]

That didn't work...

[inland seal]

Print screen brother

[exotic lion]

that didn't work either

[ornate stump]

#avatar-help message

[exotic lion]

I didn't get any answers and wouldn't that be considered unrelated? Since I'm just trying to screenshot

[ornate stump]

The link explains how to properly screenshot.

[left gull]

what does the topmost red error say (also can you swap to the "Builder" section of your upload panel?

[exotic lion]

what do I do?

[left gull]

red errors are just throwing out messages saying the build failed/stopped and you didnt show the stats in your build panel so not much anyone can go off of :P

[exotic lion]

i think im just doomed to never upload an avi...

[left gull]

you likely just missed something in the upload instructions or imported something thats outdated/broke another script in your folders, hit the collapse panel in your console to get rid of duplicates and look through the yellow warnings to see if any specifc scripts are saying they're broken/missing something (or just send screenshots of it ) and scroll down in your upload panel's builder section to where it actually lists the stats

[left gull]

oh geez that really unoptimized it might be the texture size messing it up during upload (this shows how to lower the rez credits to liindy) but alot of that model is OD

way too many skinned mesh renderers, material slots,phybone transforms/collision checks especially since that seems like a barebones model

[somber sequoia]

Yep. Shocked, just shocked. 🙂

[inland seal]

Heh

Atleast I figured it out myself ;3

[inland seal]

You're having a lot pf problem's

[somber sequoia]

Though weirdly, I was testing a commission avatar last night and had what looked like several vertices going back from my head, unpainted. On both of the test avatars I uploaded with the same model (different clothing).
But the weird thing is that it only started happening mid way though, in one world, and when I went to a different area of the world (via teleport).... it went away, and I could not reproduce it.

[inland seal]

And one of them is the physbones

[inland seal]

Same was for mine

Maybe you deleted some parts?

Like I did

[somber sequoia]

I didn't think so, but the avatar does have two different physbone sets for different style of ears, I may have forgotten to just leave the bones. I'll have to play with it.
Really not sure why it only showed up for part of the time though

[shrewd zealot]

hey heyyy id need help posting my first avatar, i downloaded one and followed all the steps to publish it bbut im getting error messages

[exotic lion]

how do I fix the physbones?

[inland seal]

Reduce them

You have 700+

Max is 210 or something

If you won't fix it then all physbones will be off

If you want I can call you in dms

And tell how to fix it

[exotic lion]

yes please

[desert elk]

show the errors

[shrewd zealot]

attempted to load the data foir an avatar we do not own

was an error like this

[balmy barn]

generic one, you want to check the top red ones

[rapid wharf]

ok this is gonna be something

if this is ticked the models blendshapes no longer work and it needs to be ticked to work
I keep getting the error message

the model was exported using blender 4.3.2 and cats was used

[somber sequoia]

That's a warning, not an error. In most cases it's not a problem.

[rapid wharf]

yea but the blendshapes no longer work

at all

[somber sequoia]

are they missing or not working?

[rapid wharf]

not working

[somber sequoia]

Do they work in blender?

[rapid wharf]

they work in blender just fine

but if that legacy box is not checked it works

[somber sequoia]

you can try "import" instead of "calculate" for one of those options, I forget the name of it

(haven't opened Unity yet)

[rapid wharf]

tried that didnt work

[indigo parrot]

Separate question from earlier: Anyone know what this error is? I keep getting it when trying to upload an avatar.

Already tried removing the VRChat SDK and adding again, as well as starting a whole new project and same result.

[somber sequoia]

are there no errors above that?

[indigo parrot]

This is my entire console when I attempt to upload:

[somber sequoia]

Right, so always post the first few errors, not the last. That one about "missing script" is the issue.

but... your prefab names are fascinating there. Almost like ripped avatars have.

[indigo parrot]

It's a free avatar from Gumroad

Not ripped

At least not that I know of

Seems like the issue was rooting from GogoLoco

Removing it allowed the upload

[left gull]

it'll sometimes do that when theres broken scripts attached to the model during an attempted upload but the model name listed in the errors is a free model so its likely not ripped :https://skulli.gumroad.com/l/creme

[somber sequoia]

Yeah that makes sense. I didn't go and look it up.

[weary blade]

Hey I have some avatars and avatar tools that I want to add onto my game, but I don’t have a PC (I’m standalone) is there any tutorials out there that can help me do that?

[somber sequoia]

you'll need a PC

[timber wharf]

@weary blade you need a pc (mac/linux) still, just not necessarily vr capable one. asking someone to upload stuff for you is against tos so we dont discuss it here

[weary blade]

Oh okay thank you! I’ll get a friend to help as they have a pc :>

Yeah I wouldn’t want anyone to hack my account anyways lmao

[left gull]

if you purchased these tools/avatars they likely arent allowed to be shared per their TOS

that counts as leaking/filesharing which will get them revoked without refund and any models you upload likely DMCA'd

[weary blade]

They’re free tho? Will that still count? How do I do it to where I can get them onto my account if it don’t have a pc, is there a way?

[left gull]

even if they're free the creator may have a TOS/rules of them that dont permit sharing in any way which is why you should check ahead of time

[weary blade]

Oh I see, I didn’t know that thank you!

I’m not good with computers so I appreciate you telling me :>

[left gull]

vrchat themselves explain that you'd need a PC to upload any content so its kinda on you if you dont read that stuff ahead of time before purchasing things (some creators also put it in their descriptions aswell but not always)

[timber wharf]

@weary blade if were talking legally, you MUST be a person uploading stuff, so you must be user of pc that runs unity. having someone upload for you would include sharing account data

[left gull]

yeah anyone who you "permit" to upload to your account is then linked to you so if you or them recieve a punishment it also get put onto the other person in most cases

[weary blade]

And that breaches user data protection laws so that’s a no no

Well thank you for warning me, another thing I’ll have to wait to get a pc for 😔💀

[left gull]

what you could do for the time being is if the avatars/tools or whatever permit public uploads you could get your friend to grab the free ones and upload to their account as a public so you could clone it

or use worlds like Prismics to see if someones already done public uploads of those models

[weary blade]

Omg that is a good idea! I’ll do that instead :3

[somber sequoia]

So, I'm starting to think this is the case, I found some mesh parts for alternate ears, fluff, etc., and I'm not using those shape keys here anyway, so I'm just deleting the mesh. Must have missed this on my first go-around.
Still doesn't explain why it was glitched out in that one part of that one world though. Oh well!

Also I found a blender script to delete unused shape keys, which will be great when I split up parts of a base model. Like separating clothing by part.

[daring nexus]

My toggles on my avi work on my end, but other player cannot see it

How do I fix that?

[left gull]

are they sync'd on the parameter list?

[olive schooner]

does anyone know why her arms tun into strings whenever i take off her shirt? is it a thing from the model itself?
i cant add any clothing with no sleeves bc of this ;-;

[junior void]

the mesh is hidden there most likely by a toggle/clothing (you may have removed?) to counteract clipping

^if in play mode, ofc

outside of play mode, just turn the blendshape down

[olive schooner]

how would i do that?

[olive schooner]

aaaa thank you so much!

[junior void]

you will find some blendshape like "hide arms" or similar

[olive schooner]

i fixed it :)

[copper marlin]

What do I do if my avatar’s whole body shifts forward a second or two after I walk in Desktop mode?

Haven’t been able to try it in VR mode

[daring nexus]

no, thank you for reminding me x.x

[junior void]

shifts?

[somber sequoia]

it like, changes stance slightly? That seems to be normal.

[copper marlin]

No, it full on slides forward

[burnt briar]

i am trying to build an avatar on PC as i have updated it, but when i do it gets about half way before freezing my PC, my RAM is fine and i have no idea why it is not working. does anyone know how to fix this?

[burnt briar]

This is the last thing it does before freezing

[pale citrus]

i added vrc spatial audio components to 2 audio sources on my avi and after removin them they are permanently muffled? anyone know what i need to do to fix this?

[wispy palm]

how tf do i fix this because i checked blender and its nowhere near this much

[somber sequoia]

scroll that to the right, there should be an auto-fix button

[desert elk]

it's happening because of other errors, fix them first

[somber sequoia]

that one is surely just the read/write checkbox on the mesh object not checked

[rare ocean]

i can't build and publish the avatar, it stucks on "building avatar" part

[rare ocean]

@orchid parcel

[untold minnow]

How do I fix this problem in blender?

I would like to believe it’s the vertices

[sharp imp]

need to work on weight paint

[untold minnow]

I see

[untold minnow]

I’m not very great at weight painting at all so Is there anything you could tell me?

Or maybe tips to help

[somber sequoia]

don't be afraid to move mesh or even retopologize it, in order to get it to move properly

[sharp imp]

well, just need to go into Vertex Group click on every vertex in Weight Paint mode and check in which of them problem

I think you have not much groups

[untold minnow]

Thank you guys

I do appreciate it👍

[rare ocean]

.

[sharp imp]

I had the same problem year ago, and I really cant remember how I fix it

[rare ocean]

Tell me if you find it.

[sharp imp]

yep yep, maybe problem was in Firewall

or something like that

[rare ocean]

thx thx

[rare ocean]

Well, do you know anyone who knows the solution?

[sharp imp]

no sorry (

[daring nexus]

how do I fix this

tryna add shapekeys to clothes

[arctic ginkgo]

does anyone know if there's a way to get the rotation of a remote user's hand?

i want to have an item that people can pick up from my avatar, but physbones don't rotate with the user's hand, they just snap to the position

i'm trying to get it to behave similarly to a world pickup

if it's not possible i think i'll just have to settle with the rotation being controlled by the local user

okay there is thatfatkidsmom's avatar prop, but it uses contact trackers, which use rigidbodies afaik so it's pc only

[copper marlin]

@junior void @somber sequoia This is what I mean

[timber wharf]

@arctic ginkgo uh that? https://github.com/ThatFatKidsMom/Avatar-Prop

rigidbody not necessary with vrc constraints, it was used to remove jitter but vrc ones are less jittery

[somber sequoia]

I'm sorry, what is this in reference to?

[copper marlin]

#avatar-help message

[arctic ginkgo]

looks like too many contacts for quest anyways since it uses two..

[somber sequoia]

Oh, okay. Sorry, but if I had an answer I'd have already given it. I don't.

[timber wharf]

@arctic ginkgo well, its quest, its not supposed to have nice things🤷‍♂️

having constraints already big

[arctic ginkgo]

well i know that

i'm not asking for it to be possible

just asking if there's a quest compatible method

it's okay if not

[timber wharf]

@arctic ginkgo cant you have like 16 contacts on quest tho

[arctic ginkgo]

oh you're right i remembered the wrong number

[pale bluff]

hello i have a question, how to make a text visible to other player on my avatar?

[desert elk]

you mean the speech bubble or something else?

[pale bluff]

no

like text

you know canvas and that stuff

[desert elk]

i do not know

[timber wharf]

canvas is not an avatar component

so png+cutout shader or whatever your goal is

[pale bluff]

okey

[amber osprey]

So... why did VRChat f*** with something that WASN'T BROKEN?!
I can't get my Audio Sources to work right, where I'm the only one that will hear them (in the Audio Source 'bubbles'). I had it perfectly set years ago and now it's broken.
I've tried playing around with the Volume Rolloff but it's either I don't hear it... or everyone hears it.
How can I get it back to what it was before? I've tried everything.

[left gull]

was likely changed because there was issues with it somehow even if it seemed fine to you

[amber osprey]

I've been testing it in Unity (putting the camera to make sure it's in the sphere), and I hear nothing.

[junior void]

Never seen that before. It makes me think of auto step but other than that...

[amber osprey]

The sound is working. It's playing (I have it on a loop as a test). But I hear nothing.

[arctic dirge]

how do you make avis

[left gull]

a good start point: https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1139228456090087495

[balmy barn]

wheres your spatial audio source, if you dont have any you get default wich is .eeeeh.. (0 priority ive never seen before)

default

[amber osprey]

I tried playing with that and, I still get nothing. This is so weird. As I said, this was working perfectly before (in Unity and in VRChat).
The only times I hear anything, is either I play with the Spatial Blend (aka anything below 1, the entire world hears it which I don't want) or setting the Volume Rolloff to Logarithmic (which for some reason is still playing far outside of the sphere, aka everyone in the world).

[timber wharf]

@balmy barn priority doesnt matter, audio on avatars always getting pushed into smaller range below any other sources

@amber osprey why your distance that low tho, it meant for who?

[amber osprey]

It's made for me only to hear it (instead of the entire world). At least that's how it's supposed to work. Anyone outside of the sphere cannot hear it.
Similar to VRChat's earmuff system, where you can set it that anyone talking outside of the sphere cannot be heard.

My guess, VRChat now set it that if I still want this, that I can no longer have the audio source inside of an empty object.

[somber sequoia]

Physbone on the prop using gravity = 1, read the angles? Someone I know did that to figure out how much lean she was doing, putting the sensor in the avatar's chest. Might work.

[amber osprey]

I have tried deleting and re-adding. I have tried no longer adding it as part of an Empty Object. ...But the dropoff is no longer working correctly.
Any ideas? ...I should, be hearing it, when inside the sphere and nowhere else. Right?

[amber osprey]

Hello? Anyone alive in here?

If you're free and understand audio sources, I could use your help.

[soft coral]

do you want ONLY you to hear it ? if that's the case you might have more luck having it be Local instead

[amber osprey]

I want only me and anyone that is inside the sphere (like it was before) to hear it.

But, I guess I'll have to settle with setting it to Local. How do I do that?

[soft coral]

okay, so not just you, if that's the case I'd recommend keeping the default Min-Max distance but change the curve to drop off at the settings you have it at now, I had a similar issue before, if that doesn't fix it I'm afraid I can't help more

[amber osprey]

Understandable. I have tried. I've tried messing with the curve for 20 minutes. As I said, it's either.. I don't hear anything, or everyone in the world will.

So I'd rather just set it to Local. But I have no idea how to do that.

[soft coral]

change the Min-Max range back to normal like I said THEN mess with the curve, when it's set so low it can bug out

[soft coral]

add a Bool called "IsLocal" spelt exactly like that, on the toggle to the "on" state have a condition that is "IsLocal - True"

[amber osprey]

From what I'm seeing, if it's below the Listener, I hear nothing. But when it's past, it's past the sphere.
And I have tried to set it to normal max distance (500) and played with it bringing the number slowly down, moving my camera in and out of the sphere. ...Still can be heard far, far outside of it.

[soft coral]

Dude, Read what I'm saying. Set it to the normal Max-Min distance, then mess with the curve so that it is only heard at the wanted distance

leave the Min-Max distance at the default

[amber osprey]

I am reading what you're saying. I guess I don't understand. Because when I mess with the curve, it isn't doing anything.

[crude meadow]

when i cloned the avatar to make the quest version these lines appeared, they are attached to the body object. anyone know what is going on?

[soft coral]

those are unweighted Vertices is my guess, move the one for PC and see if they appear from the PC version

you'll need to fix that in blender by weighting it to the correct place

[crude meadow]

yep moved it and there it is

[crude meadow]

ok. how would i go about doing that? and how would that happen to begin with?

[soft coral]

What do you mean "isnt doing anything" it adjusts the volume compared to the distance. change your Reverb Zone Mix back to 1, the Priority to 100 and change the Red line to go from 0.5 to 0.6#

[soft coral]

it happens because the model has a vertex which is unweighted, meaning you would have to re-weightpaint that vertex back to the bone it's supposed to be weighted to. there are many tutorials on weight painting and I suggest looking them up instead of trying to get me to explain how to do it to you

[crude meadow]

ok sounds good. does it make sense that when i bring the fbx into blender it looks completely fine?

[soft coral]

move the armature in pose mode

[crude meadow]

just move it to the side?

[soft coral]

Hm, strange, try and see in unity where the vertex connects to

[real verge]

hi so ive imported an avi into unity and it works all fine and dandy but when i test it in vrc the elbows are permently bent

like they WILL not straighten

its an issue with the avatar itself bcuz every other avi i use works fine so like

[soft coral]

it could be the arms are too long, in your VRC settings change height scale to arms instead of height and see if that affects it

[real verge]

ok thx ill try that!!

[crude meadow]

it originates from the point were the default novabeast tail connects to the body, i chopped it off in blender to add a different tail

[balmy barn]

those bones are really wierd , is this even from gumroad , they go in all wrong directions

[crude meadow]

like in this area

[crude meadow]

idk i may have fucked them somehow

[balmy barn]

[crude meadow]

i am very new to this so

yeah i saw that

i just be clicking buttons sometimes

should i redownload the mesh and reimport it?

[real verge]

i changed the height to arms ratio and turned it to the lowest value an that did straighten the arms

so ig the arms r too long then?? how woukld i go about shortening them

[wind skiff]

quirk of this avatar, the novabeast was exported straight from 3ds max to unity

it also used inches apparently, the avatar scale is 2.54 aka 0.0254 cause all local

[uneven wasp]

Will someone be able to vc and help me with unity? The person teaching me takes 500 years to respond on vc. I have the textures in, the downloads I need, creator companion, fury, etc - I’m slow and I take abit to understand stuff so pls be patient <3

[somber sequoia]

oh is that why, I was wondering.

[austere bay]

what do you need help with? if you ask specific questions people can answer

[uneven wasp]

Nothing specific, I know nothing about unity. I just want my avatar to be able to finally be uploaded if someone’s willing to vc

I want to learn toggles, then be able to upload it to vrc

[austere bay]

there's plenty of videos on each of those topics

[uneven wasp]

I’ve actually tried those before, but I’m so slow I don’t even understand what’s going on..I couldn’t even import textures easily with videos, I need actual help..I know it’s kindve stupid 😭🙏

[plain lava]

Anyone know how to do this for someone reason my avatar disappears when I put it on and the the animations stopped working even though it’s a humanoid rig

[uneven wasp]

(Ping if reply, so I can see lmaoo)

[uneven wasp]

There might be an issue with the rigging

Or import settings in unity

Check for missing scripts maybe:3

[austere bay]

if you ask specific questions here you'll get help, I don't think anyone is willing to take the time personally to teach you how to use unity. for most people it takes months-years to "learn" everything

[plain lava]

Oki

[austere bay]

it does take time and it is slow and tedious but watching videos and asking specific questions is the best way to lwarn

[arctic ginkgo]

does anyone know how VRCFury's "global collider" works? I know the basics, but an attempt to move the position/rotation of a default physbone collider seems to only affect the default contact, not the physbone collider

[somber sequoia]

I tried that the other day, put one on the end of a physbone chain and it jittered like mad.

[arctic ginkgo]

i was just wondering if anyone know the inner workings of it, i can't seem to get the collider to detatch from my hand

[somber sequoia]

yeah I was just looking into it

it seems to just steal a finger collider - that I've done before and it works fine, so I'm not sure why this jitters

[arctic ginkgo]

how exactly is that done though?

[somber sequoia]

I'd been guessing maybe it added a physic collider

[arctic ginkgo]

oh alright

[somber sequoia]

it relocates and re-parents one of the automatic colliders on your finger

(I'm reading the source and familiar with how this is done)

[arctic ginkgo]

yeah i was just confused at how it got the collider moved

because i tried using constraints and it only moved the contact, not the collider

i was really hoping this would be somethine quest compatible

[somber sequoia]

it should be

the only reason you need this is if you want to poke someone else's physbones with it - you don't need it for your own

[arctic ginkgo]

the docs for vrcfury don't actually describe how they move it, just that it gets reparented somehow

[arctic ginkgo]

yeah, i was trying to make a prop that could interact with other people's physbones

i don't really want to use vrcfury but i might try it just so i can see how it works..

[somber sequoia]

yep, I've used this method on my feet, not sure why VRC Fury's would be anything weird

[arctic ginkgo]

feet don't have colliders, just contacts

only colliders are hand and fingers

again the contact moves fine, the collider does not

[somber sequoia]

Yes, but you can move a finger collider to your feet

[arctic ginkgo]

ohh

[somber sequoia]

ideally we get a feature from VRChat for this... I should see if there's a canny I could upvote then wish for.

[arctic ginkgo]

i'm going to try using vrcfury and gesture manager to see how the collider is moved

[somber sequoia]

hmm I'm not sure this works at runtime, I think you have to do it in a build hook

(btw the relevant VRCFury code is in Editor/VF/Service/BakeGlobalCollidersService.cs)

heh, this code is full of notes about weird behavior, but it seems nicely generic, not at all like I'd done it 🙂

[jaunty sparrow]

Is there any gorilla tag avatars

[plain mural]

how to make fully custom animations for walk, crouch and crawl?
When I try to make animations in an fbx file, and then create an .anim file from them, it's like there's no animation

[amber osprey]

I did it exactly, as you told me. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Seriously. It should not be this difficult.
Infact I decided to check my work from Unity 2019 (an old backup)... and it's doing the same thing of not hearing anything when inside the sphere. This is so perplexing. Like it's just not possible anymore (since SDK2 was murdered in cold blood by VRChat).

[left gull]

make a post in #1138520828556890214 this chat is meant for developing/creating avatars

[shrewd stirrup]

Does anyone Know how to compress an avi to fit on quest besides textures and effects?

[somber sequoia]

#quest-optimization but don't forget that your mesh takes up space - removing unused blendshapes can help too

[shrewd stirrup]

shii everything goes used

[somber sequoia]

you may have to sacrifice something. Or split it up into multiple avatars

[arctic ginkgo]

tbh i don't know very much about programming, i'm trying to go through the code and see if i can make sense of it but i'm kinda lost. is there something outside of the transforms in the armature that vrchat is using to place the colliders? because moving them with constraints doesn't do anything..

[jaunty sparrow]

Oh

[somber sequoia]

I'm not really sure how/where VRchat places them, the only part I've done is to find the ring finger collider and move it to the location of the foot collider on the same side, and attach it to that collider's parent bone.

[amber osprey]

If anyone has any idea if VRChat actually made it no longer possible (for some bonkers reason) that Volume Rolloff doesn't work right anymore with Audio Sources (since SDK3), please let me know.

[glass geyser]

I successfuly got interactions set up on my avatar like when people pat my head, but although they claimed to see it react, I can't in my face mirror. is there a way to perhaps see it yourself otherwise things might get a little confusing

[somber sequoia]

depends on how you set it up

[copper marlin]

Why does VRC SDK say that there's 9 material slots when there's clearly only 8?

[ornate stump]

You might have another renderer, such as mesh renderer, particle, trail, etc.

[ornate stump]

So you actually have particle system so it counts toward material slot too.

[amber osprey]

I tried this too as I'm seriously getting fed up with the issue. I hope I did it right? Because I still hear nothing, and I have my avatar sounds working.
Do I need to add anything else to make this 'IsLocal' to work?

[glass geyser]

ok well I followed a simple video on it that basically had me set up a contact receiver on a bone and set it to play an animation when integer is set to 1 and swap to the state with nothing when 0.

[ornate stump]

Did you add spatial audio source component to the audio source object?

[glass geyser]

I only got one person to do it to me so far, but when they did it they claimed they saw it react but I didn't on my face mirror

[amber osprey]

Yes. The VRChat one.

But I also tried it without and I still hear nothing in the sphere.

[somber sequoia]

that doesn't seem unreasonable

[ornate stump]

Did you also increase "Near" range in the spatial source?

[amber osprey]

Hmmm. That's not something I've tried yet. Let me give that a go.

[ornate stump]

Without Near range, audio volume drop off quickly enough to make anyone not hear it.