avatar-help

[vale cove]

I genuinely don't know how to explain it

[somber sequoia]

839k? wow, that sure is something

[sharp pewter]

Is there a way to have both expression toggles AND hand gesture toggles without conflicting?

[somber sequoia]

sure, you just have to work out the right animator logic for it to work the way you want based on the inputs.

[ocean gale]

Does anyone know how to make manual reload function?

[somber sequoia]

reload what?

[ocean gale]

Gun reload

[left gull]

you really need to optimize your model! (its whats preventing upload) if you've got multiple outfits/toggles maybe seperate them into multiple models?

[somber sequoia]

surely that depends on the gun asset

[ocean gale]

Wdym by that?

[somber sequoia]

I mean there's no standard for how guns work so whatever you're trying to do is probably going to be pretty specific to the gun you have

[ocean gale]

The only thing i wanna know is how can i grab a amo and put it into the gun and make it shoot after the reload, I've sean avatars got reload function,
I wanna learn how to do that

[somber sequoia]

You'd have to figure out what action is triggered by grabbing the ammo and cause it to happen via some other means

[sharp pewter]

how do u create proper logic?

[somber sequoia]

Figure out exactly what you want to happen when whatever conditions occur, then work out the animator logic to make that happen. I couldn't explain it more detailed than that without actually fully understanding the specific goal here.

[arctic ginkgo]

well you'd either have to have a toggle set for them or prioritize one over the other. What I typically do is create a menu for the expressions. The default (0) has none of the toggles on, and instead allows you to use your hand gestures to change expressions. Then if you want an expression permanently on, just select it in the expressions menu. If you toggle the active one off, then it switches back to using your gestures. I always include the default facial expression in this menu as the first option, which is essentially the same thing as disabling gesture-based expressions

i find this method fairly intuitive. The menu expressions are priorotized over the gesture-based ones, and simultaneously serve as a toggle for gesture-based expression puppeting

[queen nimbus]

does someone know what to do ? ):

[somber sequoia]

ah I replied in the other channel

[spark walrus]

Im new to blender, im trying to import a texture but the Model stays silver?

[somber meadow]

screenshot your material's nodes

or have you set the material up yet

[spark walrus]

Like this?

[queen nimbus]

the other errors have not occurred anymore but when I try to upload, I get the MainTex error 88 times 🫠😂

[somber sequoia]

it's got to do with a shader, but beyond that there's no way to know what the issue is from just that message

[somber sequoia]

Nodes, as in in the 'Shading' section, the node editor at the bottom

[spark walrus]

Im so sorry if im just not understanding but thank you for your patience

[somber sequoia]

that's the thing, yup

[spark walrus]

The texture shows up in this window but in the main layout its just silver

[somber meadow]

what viewport shading mode are you currently on

[somber sequoia]

oh- pick "material preview" for the viewport shading mode - bubbles at the top right

[somber meadow]

you'll need to be on Material Preview or Rendered to see materials render. Material Preview being the fastest

[spark walrus]

WOW im SO SMART- Yall are the best

Tysm seriously

[dusk pulsar]

I was thinking in the past: what are those nodes, seems difficult. In reality - it's the same as everything on the right panel in viewport, but easier to navigate...

[somber sequoia]

here's where I suggest basic blender tutorials. They're worth the time.

[alpine spear]

hey guys, i'm experiencing a weird bug when i try to change the shader for some hair to the vrc toonlit shader.

by default, the shader is liltoon. but when i switch it to the vrc toonlit shader, weird ness happens. what could be causing it?

i already tried creating a whole new material, setting that one to vrc toonlit and applying the texture. and my sdk is set to android build
left is normal liltoon, right is vrc toonlit

[left tendon]

this is also my first time trying to make an avatar, and its me making my roblox avatar into a vrchat one

[kindred umbra]

does anyone here have a prefab or shader that is basically a voice visualiser? (kinda like those avatars with a line [On a mask] that turns into a waveform that changes with the way someone talks through their mic)

I wanna see if i can try to put that on my avatar and learn from it but idk how to create it. if so pls hmu or ping! id love to learn so!

[raven orbit]

the problem is likely vertex colors, which would need to be removed in blender

[raven orbit]

i think people usually use audiolink for that https://github.com/llealloo/audiolink

[kindred umbra]

yee, but how would someone make it where, instead of world audio, its mic input

[alpine spear]

where would i find that in blender?

[somber meadow]

Use the Voice parameter https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/animator-parameters#parameters

[raven orbit]

after importing the fbx into blender, select the mesh, go to the data tab (green triangle), color attributes, remove everything there and export back to unity

[raven orbit]

oh wait i forgot about that yeah😅

[alpine spear]

alright. i'll try it

[alpine spear]

it worked! thanks!

[somber sequoia]

probably combine voice and viseme and you could get close

[alpine spear]

😂

[arctic ginkgo]

like what kazin said, voice and viseme parameter together would look decent, use viseme to create specific waveform shapes, use voice to amplify them

[somber sequoia]

there's an avatar I've seen that would emit particle letters matching the visemes, it was a neat trick

[bright kite]

idk if this is even the right place but VCC SDK is uploading my avatar as a world? how do i fix this?

[somber sequoia]

for one, don't load the world SDK in your avatar project

[arctic ginkgo]

i'm not very used to making anime style models, i more-so make western cartoon style models, if anyone has any advice on how to improve the shape of this head lmk

i just can't shake the feeling that the head looks very off, especially the cheeks/side of the face from the front

if it helps i'm trying to model kagamine rin, specifically riliane lucifen (the daughter of evil)

[bright kite]

Right? But the issue is that when i do not load this in, i cannot even use the VRC SDK wont open the settings at all I only get these two options:

[somber sequoia]

well make sure you have the avatars SDK

then check the console for errors

[bright kite]

They’re in there 🙂

[somber meadow]

Use Windows Key + Shift + S to screenshot, show your console tab for errors

[somber sequoia]

(scroll to the top of it first though)

[jade wave]

can someone please help me with this big bump in the road problem? im making a custom avatar (and still learning how to) and i really need help of where to put roughness maps (using poi pro 7.3 to 9.0) cause just about all of my textures use those maps to actually add the fabric look to the asset and i cannot find for the LIFE of me where i need to put the maps but without the roughness being added everything look exteremly flat

[somber meadow]

Reflections & Specular, smoothness, check the invert box

[jade wave]

do i add it into packed maps or cube map?

[somber meadow]

expand packed maps

[jade wave]

omg thank youuuuuu you just saved my entire night ive been pulling my hair out over this

[somber sequoia]

Poi docs are pretty good, definitely check them out

[burnt nova]

do we know if theres a fix to avatars tht are giving errors like i know the avi is fine but i cant load it

or if there gonna fix it

[somber sequoia]

most likely it's not fine if it's showing a security alert. but obviously it's hard to tell what might be wrong from here

[burnt nova]

if i reset the game thy work fine or if i wait a few minutes

im not talking bout whn they r takn down or have an x

[somber sequoia]

ah interesting, sounds like a user support question then, rather than avatar development

[burnt nova]

if that makes since hard to type on vr keyboard

and ive seen it happen to others

this is def new

[daring garden]

I think that nose is way too sharp. The line often seen around the nose by the eyes is to help differentiate the eye from the nose. You can still have it smoothish and dainty though.

[stoic bobcat]

having issues with some avatars hands not moving with the animation, hand is set up fine, it just doesnt get overidden by the animation

[arctic ginkgo]

oh no i'm fine with how the nose is, that's part of the normals, not the geometry. It's intended to be used with a cel shader in order to create a harsh line for the shadows on the nose, so they only ever fall on one side or the other

something like this

i can very easily remove it without effecting the geometry

i've edited the proprotions a bit since i last posted those images, i think this may look a bit better but it still feels a bit off

it may just be the lack of ears and hair though idk

[limber kindle]

Hi I come back to this game after a few years and am trying to make an avatar with sdk 3.0
Does anyone know how to have it how i can control how closed my eyes are in response to how far the trigger button is pressed? I have it on my old avatar ( have fist emote be closed eye face) and want to have it on a new avatar using sdk 3.0, but putting the expression on fist doesnt seem to work the same

[keen musk]

Hello I'm very new to avatar making n stuff and I'm trying to use this kirby model as my avatar, But I encountered this any help?

[quasi folio]

How would I make a particle shoot with just a fist?

[junior void]

Click "configure". It'll bring you to the bone assignments where you can manually fill in the missing bone. Unity is far from perfect when trying to auto map bones

[winter edge]

does anyone know what mirror does on the fx controller?

[winter edge]

Oh can I get the link to the doc you’re looking at

[ruby island]

is there a way to convert fbx file to unity?

[junior void]

sure https://docs.unity3d.com/2022.3/Documentation/Manual/class-AnimationClip.html

[junior void]

This is a rather odd question and i feel like it would make more sense if we knew what you were trying to do instead

[ruby island]

i have a model for an avatar but i need to open it in unity to convert for quest but it wont open cuz theres no unity file... idk if that makes sense im kinda new at this ;_;

and its kind of an obscure avatar so theres no instructions with it

[junior void]

Okay so let me explain that part

unitypackages consist of fbx files, prefabs, materials and textures. You don't convert an fbx, the fbx is part of it.

If your avatar comes as fbx instead, you can import that fbx just by dragging it into your asset folder. From there, you want to go over import settings and then drag the asset into a unity scene

[ruby island]

i see, thank you < 3

[spark walrus]

is there a minimum size?

for an avatar?

[ornate stump]

Do you mean height?

[spark walrus]

total size

[ornate stump]

Size of what? Download size?

[spark walrus]

3d dize

3D size

[ornate stump]

There would be only minimum eye height at 20 cm.

Wide and depth size would be dictated by the minimum eye height.

[spark walrus]

so i cant just be a pixel?

[ornate stump]

There is no concept of a pixel in 3D space.

[spark walrus]

u know what I meanm

when u use a plane

is backface culling on or off in ue4?

if u create it in unity:?

[ornate stump]

Your definitions always are different from many people here.

[junior void]

tf is that question

[spark walrus]

which one>?

[ornate stump]

I'm not sure if that relate to a pixel. Or did you just started a new topic?

[spark walrus]

new

[ornate stump]

Backface culling is dictated by material shader, which is defaulted to cull backface in unity.

[spark walrus]

it is off

what does cull mean>?

[ornate stump]

Cull mean do not render.

[spark walrus]

is off

[ornate stump]

Off means there is no cull, which mean there is nothing being un-rendered.

[spark walrus]

no it is underendered

if I turn surface around

i cant see it

[ornate stump]

That mean it's culled.

[spark walrus]

i used the default plane 3d object

[ornate stump]

Of course that's expected behavior.

[spark walrus]

u said it hsould b e rendered

[ornate stump]

When did I said that?

[spark walrus]

u said cuilling is off

by default

[ornate stump]

What?

[spark walrus]

yes

[ornate stump]

How did you read as "off"?

[left wharf]

Cull both: un-render the mesh
Cull front: un-render the front mesh
Cull backface: un-render the backface mesh
Cull off: render both face
i think many shaders use cull backface by default

[spark walrus]

how come I can stiull see it in game?

[ornate stump]

Your problem is avatar orientation. You rotated the Y axis down while the game will orient it back to up.

[spark walrus]

true

is there a way to fix it?

[ornate stump]

Make your avatar root object empty and add a plane object as child object of the avatar and orient the plane object.

[spark walrus]

u mean like this>?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[spark walrus]

gonna try sth

if I move the plane into the ground will it be brought back up in game>?

to ground level?

i once had a tank which orifgin wanst same as ground level, tank ended up being half below floor level

[ornate stump]

If it's a child object of avatar root then it won't.

[spark walrus]

ok thx

what determines the blue box>?

that bubble shown in vrchat?

the size of it

[ornate stump]

View position.

[spark walrus]

i see

[native loom]

I want to turn those basic socks into Nike white socks

where should I put the nike logo in the texture for the socks to not look all fucked up?

(im new)

[burnt bison]

same

[native loom]

[burnt bison]

someone help me pls

[native loom]

@burnt bison click auto fix

[burnt bison]

done$

[native loom]

did it work?

[burnt bison]

nah

[native loom]

let me see ur console

[burnt bison]

it says build failed

[burnt bison]

what

[native loom]

send me a screenshot of ur console

[native loom]

ok wait lemme open unity rq

[burnt bison]

u want a pic of my meta quest

[native loom]

no

give me a second to open unity

[burnt bison]

thats my consle

[native loom]

did u start unity today?

not tryna offend, just curious

[burnt bison]

no yestedday

[native loom]

i see

give me a second Im opening unity

[native loom]

I got few things to ask

1, are u using vrcc or unity hub

[burnt bison]

ye

both

[native loom]

no but like from which of those do u open the project

[burnt bison]

cc

then it opens unity

[native loom]

u open from vrcc

?

[burnt bison]

yes

[native loom]

ok

do u have any plug ins?

[burnt bison]

no

[native loom]

poiyomi, fury... etc

[burnt bison]

no

do i need it

[native loom]

100%

its gonna make ur life easier

[burnt bison]

btw i bought this avatar

[native loom]

Ill send u them in dms if u dont mind

[burnt bison]

okay

then we can talk in dms

[native loom]

holy shit if the open is taking this long i cant imagine the upload

[feral breach]

Does anyone know those two Avatars by any Chance?

[night ember]

#1138520828556890214

[feral breach]

I only see that channels

[night ember]

🤷‍♂️

[feral breach]

Thanks for linking. I cant go on there manually

Its not there for me

[ornate stump]

You have to look in the Channels&Roles channel. This applied to most community servers where only some channels are visible by default.

[fierce spear]

Hi, question, why do clothes become transparent on the inside when I import them into unity?

Is there a way to stop that

[twin raft]

disable backface culling on your material

unity/quest shaders cant

[fierce spear]

Welp, i just found a way to fix that for quest too.

Duplicate the mesh in blender, flip it inside out, merge em, export again.

[indigo compass]

That is the bad way to do it, if you want to be even slightly optimized then only duplicate the faces that will actually been seen, you are doubling your poly count for basically no reason.

[fierce spear]

Fair enough, thanks

[quasi folio]

ASAGAHAHG help

[light remnant]

I have been following a guide made by Tupper and all has been going well until I try anything with the sdk. Errors just pop up for funzies. I am trying to upload the avatar as both PC and Android as well. I assume putting it as Android does that already, however as for optimization I don't know what else I can do. I am so far in that idk if this channel will be able to help me. As for the second screenshot I don't know if the prefab down there is actually doing anything. I am more than willing to answer questions as I have been working hard juggling my job and a bunch of other things. Even spent money for this, albeit tools that saved my life.

[timber wharf]

putting it as android doesnt do that

you need upload per platfrom

2nd error #avatar-help message

other errrors just show that stuff is not compatible with android oob, need mobile shaders/less physbones and so on.

[vast pagoda]

hey i'm a bit new to avatar development so excuse me if it's a v simple question: i'm trying to export an avatar to vrm with an outfit using modular avatar for outfits, but i am unsure how to get it to be rigged onto the model in the vrm format. are there any tutorials that include that part for vrm exporting?

[idle portal]

So I'm trying to upload an avi I bought. I can upload the pc version just fine but then when I try to upload the android version it'll say that it's 'successfully uploaded' but then the avi doesn't have a quest version & will also now be unusable because it 'failed to pass security checks"
I'm assuming it's a unity/ vrc companion issue because it's the same for another avi as well. There's no errors I can show since everything says it's good in unity

I tried switching versions in the creator companion & redownloading everything and that didn't do anything

[native loom]

I want to remove unwated animations but I dont see any, what am I doing wrong?

[left gull]

not sure if you fixed this or not but the thing preventing upload is unity constraints and texture memory (click auto fix and lower the texture resolution on all the textures used for the model) perhaps also optimize the rest of your model better as those stats are kinda ick

[queen nimbus]

I uploaded a copy of my main avatar and suddenly it says security check failed, even though the "original/1st version" works fine. Does anyone know why?

[native loom]

how do I remove animations of the avatar?

I cant find them in the animator

[left gull]

find the FX layer, parameter list and menu then remove the toggle

[native loom]

i helped her, but she's a quest player, and her avi is over 10MiB

so now she's looking at a tutorial I sent her to turn it into quest

[native loom]

idk how I found it but I found it thank u

[marsh pike]

hello, is there anyone that could help me upload/download an avatar?

[left gull]

download? 🤨

also its better to just specify what you're struggling with then vaguely asking for help

[marsh pike]

well its my first time using unity so im not sure exactly what im doing at all

[native loom]

I want to reduce some size because rn its at 221 MiB, but last time I tried my avatar's face turned red, and im scared to do it, what should I do?

[thorny pewter]

My validations won't show up pls help me fix this, I'm almost done with the avi😔

[native loom]

just click autofix

[thorny pewter]

I can't because it won't show any of my validations

It's blank

[native loom]

i see

well i cant help haha

i started 3 days ago with unity

🤓

[thorny pewter]

Aww darn it

[left gull]

try closing and re-opening your unity to see if it shows anything in the SDK panel or Console

sometimes it just bugs out like that

[thorny pewter]

Alr

[summer night]

would anybody be willing to create my avatar file for me to upload to vrchat? i'm having a stroke trying to figure out unity. i have the sdk file and shader downloads but i cant ... do the thing i dont have a functioning pc 💔 please direct me to the right place if this isn't allowed as well !! i'm just bleh

[gaunt lintel]

Hi, someone hace open commissions or can help me doing an avatar?

[left gull]

dont ask here it'll get you purely scam DMs

look for VRCTraders in #1204490664637890580 they've got a verification process for their comm artists

[left gull]

same with you go get a verified commissioner there and dont accept any DMs about making stuff for you!

though if you dont have a PC getting it into vrchats going to be an issue as getting someone to upload to your account isnt safe or allowed

[summer night]

,,which is y i also saidif anybody was willing to drop the two files and export the pack and send it to me for myself to upload to my account with the creator companion

because i figured logging on to my account isnt allowed yeahi just phrased that weird prolly

[prisma thunder]

Is there any way to bring a browser search/media player to an avatar? even just local

[warm moon]

I have an smile animation that continues moving the eyebrows and mouth a little (1st video) that i want to put as my expression. However when i actually put it on my avatar and try to activate it it only plays the start of the animation and doesnt continue the animation like it should on the first video. the animation just stops playing after the smile. This seems rly simple but haven't found a fix this. pls help

[errant lion]

My avatar looks white from some directions...and again from some directions..it looks fine..normal...but I need to fix please help

[somber meadow]

What does the animation file look like? Does anything else in the animator use those blendshapes

[idle jetty]

Does anyone know how to fix turning speed it is way to fast and how to fix when looking in a mirror my avatar is far away and when i move my head it moves the full avatar in the mirror and I does not show my avatar when useing my hands

[sturdy kestrel]

Okay so i have an avatar here with a few toggles made via animations. I dont want some of these toggles but when I delete the model and animation the toggle remains in the expressions menu

[somber sequoia]

Menus are separate files you can edit separately

[sturdy kestrel]

and how do I do that

[wispy moon]

any idea why the Vrchat mobile/standard toon shader does this to my avi?
Adding emission helps but that seems like a bad solution...

[somber sequoia]

there are many tutorials for these things, and some docs: https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/expression-menu-and-controls

[sturdy kestrel]

ahhhhh i found it

[regal mango]

Hey, is there a really good youtube channel with super simple step by step steps on the import to upload process for avatars? I'm struggling so hard, my brain is like a fried potato

[somber sequoia]

PxINKY, Sipp's Avatar Box

[regal mango]

Thank you!

hey, do i need this for unity? what should i check?

[errant lion]

Why nobody cares about my problem!! My avatar looking white from some directions!!

[somber meadow]

Uncheck everything, if you want to build for android (Android includes Quest) enable android build support (by itself, no submodules)

[errant lion]

Why are you ignoring me

[somber meadow]

That's not really how to ask for help

I'm not going to help you if you're going to act entitled like that

[errant lion]

Nobody's going to help me anyway...

I apologize..

[somber sequoia]

Probably the people ignoring you don't actually have the answer you seek.

personally I never saw the original message.

[warm moon]

ig this is what you mean by how the file looks like? and yeah i have other animations that uses the same blendshapes

[regal mango]

OOOH OOH, I actually know the answer to this one! The issue with yer avi is that you need all the shader plugins that came with the character in the read me file, go back and look at it and add them all to yer project in unity and reupload the avi!

[somber meadow]

The keyframes specifically

[errant lion]

Now i need to understand... I'm not really into these.. i only know how to upload avatars...

[shadow mirage]

trying to find my hand gestures to change the eye shape on on each hand gesture but i cant seem to find the animations in my FX Layer anyone might know why?

[somber sequoia]

I suspect that's not intentional that it looks like it says RRRRRRRR

[warm moon]

oh yeah no lul thats a funny coincidence

[somber meadow]

is there anything animating those other properties on the animator?

[mortal rain]

Aloha

[errant lion]

And there was only unitypackage of avatar...nothing else

[regal mango]

Even on the website? like under the avi picture?

Usually if you scroll down there's plugin requirement links you can copy and paste into yer url bar

[foggy hornet]

Guess the big question is, where did you even get it from?

[errant lion]

Only thing i found is..shader name...nothing about version

[somber sequoia]

probably that's good enough though

[errant lion]

I don't even know if its pro or classic

[foggy hornet]

Sounds like Poyomi.

[errant lion]

Yes poiyomi yet

[somber sequoia]

I'm sure it'd say pro if it were, and you don't need Poiyomi pro unless you're doing specific things pro provides.

[foggy hornet]

What is the Avatar's name, where did you find it

[warm moon]

i have other expression animations that uses some of the same blendshapes and one layer that might also use some of the same blendshapes

[somber meadow]

That would be an issue if the states for that are active at the same time

Try a duplicate animator with just the "left hand" layer in it, if that works then that means your animator is fighting for the ownership of those properties

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/877346847763603467.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=xqcSleeper

[foggy hornet]

@somber sequoiaThat explains a lot.

[somber sequoia]

? I wasn't asking

[foggy hornet]

No, I was including you in on the conversation lol

[somber sequoia]

thanks, but there's no need for the ping

Anyway.

(for the record, the page literally tells you the order to import things and one of those things is Poiyomi)

aha, that avatar is for sale on payhip

no?

it was more that I was following the trail others started, where the version on vrmodels is likely stolen, unless you paid $45 for it.

oh so you didn't. k, good luck then.

Nope.

With a pirated avatar.

yep, sure is

[floral plover]

sum1 make me a ira skin and ill give u a kiss

[wise solstice]

any yall help me out on this? just updated my vrcc and now the view position edit just wont work, created a new project and still wont work..

[somber sequoia]

you've got gizmos on, right?

[somber meadow]

Is your avatar positioned at 0,0,0 and gizmos are on?

[wise solstice]

no fucking shot

ive been making avis for three years and just made a rookie mistake

gizmos were not on

[somber sequoia]

ha!

[wise solstice]

thank you LMAO

[somber sequoia]

I've made this one more than once

[wise solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/praying-angel-emoji-emoticon-smiley-gif-15640677

unfortunate embed fail

[pulsar summit]

someone make him a avatar and ill give u two kisses

[somber sequoia]

Ah apparently that annoying person has left, very nice.

[regal mango]

Is it possible to convert blender files to unity? I don't see unity esque files

[somber sequoia]

export an FBX from Blender, that's what Unity wants.

190k hah

[fierce spear]

can someone send me a weightshape tutorial, i must be missing something, im at 33 attempts of getting the weights right

[regal mango]

Is there a highly detailed video for dummies on how to do this? I'm really stupid when it comes to instructions.

I don't even know what an fbx is >.< goodness but thank you for telling me

[somber sequoia]

file -> export -> export FBX, select both mesh and armature, set "apply scalings" = FBX All, disable the leaf bones checkbox under Armature.
FBX is a sorta standard 3D file format.

but otherwise there are many videos which show this, yes.

[regal mango]

Do any specific youtubers come to mind who go into detail for dumb dumbs?

and do i do that after dragging the files into unity?

[somber sequoia]

at a guess: #avatar-help message

dragging what files though?

[inland seal]

I cant delete a material from Particles. Its just gray.

[regal mango]

I don't even know, man... TO YOUTUBE!

[somber sequoia]

Particles use a material slot, you can't remove that. what are you trying to do?

[inland seal]

Remove this

I dont need it

[somber sequoia]

that's an embedded material, you can't edit it, you'd need to swap it wherever it is

[inland seal]

a

the problem is that idk where it is

Is there a way to find it?

[somber sequoia]

what thing did you click on though?

[inland seal]

huh?

[fierce spear]

Is there a easy way to weightpaint skintight clothing? Stuff keeps clipping.

[inland seal]

wdym

[somber sequoia]

I'm trying to figure out what this is and why you feel you need to change it

[somber sequoia]

There are tools that can attempt to match the weights of the body underneath but if the mesh topology is different than the body, you're going to be fiddling with it, and probably won't make it work ideally

[inland seal]

Because I want to put neon material on it

and not this 😭

[somber sequoia]

ok so you simply swap the material then

[inland seal]

But I cant if idk where it is

So Im asking how to find it

[somber sequoia]

you don't know which object it's on?

I'm not sure how to find where a material is used

[inland seal]

no

Oh

It worked ;D

I had to drag it in th esection where it said new element

;D

[regal mango]

Do I need to install blender to import blender files into unity if they are already sealed up and ready to go?

I'm still very lost and have no idea what I'm doing here

I also didn't mean to, but i misplaces some of the files outside of the folder and now i'm even more lost. If it's not too much trouble, would it be okay if somebody talked me through the process through screen share maybe?

[somber sequoia]

Yes, it needs to use Blender to convert them. Better to convert to FBX yourself (using blender) and put that into Unity.

No idea what any of the other files are.

[regal mango]

Can do! Gonna go install blender!

Thanks

[idle portal]

bumping this ^^"

[somber sequoia]

are you on the latest SDK?

[idle portal]

im fairly sure?

3.7.4 i believe

[somber meadow]

Click manage project on the project in creator companion, and screenshot the screen it shows

[idle portal]

aye aye, one second

[somber meadow]

what Unity version?

[winter edge]

Does anyone know what might be going on here?

I have a left and right hand FX controller that controls my facial expressions.

but it seems like I'm ending up combining my facial expressions rather than one hand entirely overriding the other.

Is there a way to have a facial expression turn off the other ongoing one?

I believe this might be a write default issue or blendshapes animation problem?

[idle portal]

2022.23.22f1

[regal mango]

it won't let me select both mesh and armature

[somber sequoia]

it will

shift or control or something

[regal mango]

ooooh! it worked! thank you!

Does it look right?

[somber sequoia]

no

"apply scaling" should be FBX All unless you have really good reasons otherwise

[regal mango]

gotcha! jeez you guys are like life savers holy crap

[idle jetty]

Does anyone know how to fix turning speed it is way to fast and how to fix when I look in a mirror my avatar is far away and when I move my head it moves the full avatar in the mirror and it does not show my avatar when useing my hands is shows as invisible

[idle portal]

is there physbone components on the main avi armature?

[idle jetty]

Yes there is

[idle portal]

The avatar will break if theres one on the main bones- if youre tryna put physbones on something like the hair you would have to put it on a hair bone, not the head. Same with if you wanted a tail to move- you would put the physbone component on the tail bone, not the hip

[somber meadow]

it's technically possible if you enable "IsAnimated" on the physbone component

[idle portal]

Ouuu i didnt know that ^^"

[daring nexus]

I am so beyond lost

I'm tryna add a shape key to a shirt on my avi

[balmy sun]

i think you’re in the wrong place dawg

help, i can’t remember how to fix the “failed to upload file” error because it’s so not helpful

[daring nexus]

rip

I.. huh.. whuuuhhhhh???

[balmy sun]

weight painting

Id recomend looking up some youtube tutorials what what ever youre tryiung to do

[daring nexus]

I realize my mistake, I fucked up alllllll ofthe bones

every

single

bone

except the hair

thankfully I alone spent just under two hours on this, so I get to just start over

though this is probably an accurate depiction of how my own irl bones feel at any given time

[fierce spear]

Is there a way to fix this? when the legs spread apart the middle of the mesh goes ballistic

[arctic ginkgo]

Looks like bad weight painting

[fierce spear]

it is, im just not sure how to fix it. ive been at it for 4 hours now

managed to fix the weightpainting on every other area to avoid clipping, its just that part left.

[daring nexus]

I'd say remove the weight paint from around the crotch area

and then tweak it to your preferences

[daring ivy]

what’s the max amount you can have?

[marsh pike]

can anyone teach me how to make and avatar quest compatible?

[daring ivy]

there are yt vids for it that’s what I used

[somber meadow]

Open the parameters asset, it tells you

Either remove parameters till you're in the clear, or use a parameter compressor like VRCFury's

[daring nexus]

remove all physbones, convert all shaders to vrc mobile shaders

[daring ivy]

would vrcfury help with customs ones

[marsh pike]

were do i find the physbones?

[somber meadow]

Custom what, Parameters? Yes, it'll compress float parameters by default

[slate goblet]

Hello, for some reason when I use the avatar height feature in-game. My avatar doesn't scale. Only the camera moves up if I want to get taller, etc. Anyone know why this might happen?

I have already checked viewpoint, removed any cameras in the FBX file and in Unity. I have also redone the whole FBX (asset but added my own stuff to it) without merging any bones or removing any bones and renaming so there are no bones with the same names.

[quasi folio]

Assistance needed, helpeth chat 🙏

[somber meadow]

Is your avatar humanoid?

[slate goblet]

It's humanoid

[raven orbit]

Apply all transforms (in blender) (and combine the meshes if you want better performance ranking)

[somber meadow]

And other avatars work?

[slate goblet]

Yes

It's only this one for some reason

[somber meadow]

could you show how the avatar looks like in the hierachy and the rig tab in the model's import settings

[somber meadow]

Does the avatar use anything like gogoloco

[slate goblet]

yeah

[somber meadow]

what version are you using, show the avatar descriptors playable layers

[slate goblet]

1.8.3

[daring nexus]

I'm convinced blender hates me

[slate goblet]

Maybe I shouldn't be using them with WD?

[raven orbit]

Looks like a finger bone might be hidden? Do Alt+H

[slate goblet]

.

[daring nexus]

already tried that

even went to check weight paining

painting*

[wispy moon]

any quest avi people know any reason this is happening/how to remedy it?

[daring nexus]

ok, nvm, figured it out, the bone was just whole ah missing

fixxed it!

[spark walrus]

@wraith saffron any news?

[urban glacier]

my sdk wont open projects just the unity hub help
?

[daring nexus]

Another bone is missing!

[gloomy flint]

@upbeat kernel you

still opening a project but i'm typing what i can remember real quick

from what i can immediately recall, to fix the whole physbone count issue, go to the top bar and click Tools, go to the dropdown that shows and click VRCQuestTools. It should have something called Remove Physbones, don't worry it won't remove all of them at once. Once you click it, select the avatar you want to remove physbones from and it'll show you a list of them

Uncheck the physbones you do not want or need, and get the total amount under the maximum for Quest and then click apply

[marsh pike]

how do i change the shaders to mobile?

[gloomy flint]

if you have VRCQuestTools it's a couple of clicks but manually you just go to each texture and it'll have a dropdown for shaders

you click VRChat > Mobile >
and either choose
Standard
Matte
or Toon

they're the only 3 that really.. Work

I prefer Toon Lit because in some worlds the lighting is weird and can make my avatar pitch black on quest

[marsh pike]

could you help me with that?

[wooden cairn]

You should be able to handle it, just go step by step

Find the material in your assets and click on it

then go to the very top of your inspector and click the dropdown next to shader

and you'll see what Michael was talking about

[marsh pike]

my quest tools isnt showing up anymore

[spark walrus]

can an instance owner mute a user?

i saw someone toggling my mic off over and over it was really annoying

I wonder if the host of an instance is able to do this or if this is some hack

[gloomy flint]

hosts/group mods for an instance can do that, and its usually a sign you're doing something that annoys them, like playing music or saying something realllly stupid

[spark walrus]

in ur mind

[gloomy flint]

I mute people's mics all the time if they're saying something incredibly stupid, playing loud music over their mic, or doing something else that annoys more than just one person so lol

[rocky nova]

Hello, I'm trying to figure out how to use unity but I keep getting this error message about having UnityPackageManager.exe. I also don't have the Server folder in my package manager folder. Any advice on what to do with this info?

I tried reinstalling Unity Editor but the same thing happened

[gloomy flint]

if you turned on View Hidden Folders and its not there, I think your computer needs some therapy

[keen canopy]

I can't seem to import this package. Any idea why?

[rocky nova]

View Hidden files is turned on yes

should i try reinstalling unity hub? or does that not matter

wait ok i found it in a similar folder, but i get the same error message

[left wharf]

are you using any anti-virus software such as Avast, Kaspersky?
if so, try disable it and reinstall the editor.

[rocky nova]

more update, it needs the unitypackagemanager.exe from the 2022.3.22f1 but the only place i have one of those is in 6000.0.29f1-x86_64

[rocky nova]

the only thing i have is malwarebytes, i tried looking in it but no alarms for it went off

[left wharf]

hmm... could you take a screenshot about installed Unity Editor? (open Unity Hub and see installs tab)

[left wharf]

try remove 2022.3.22f1 and reinstall it via Unity Hub

if you don't want to use default install location, click gear icon at the left upper in the page and change Installs>Installs location

[open cipher]

Howdy guys, my avatar is likee, weirdly twitching when doing absolutley nothing and ive identified it to be the locomotion layer but idk how to fix it. any help would be awesome 😭

[rocky nova]

which one should i install

[somber meadow]

https://unity.com/releases/editor/whats-new/2022.3.22

click "Install" on the page to prompt Unity Hub to get the correct version

[rocky nova]

ok ill let you know if it works in a while since it takes forever

[wispy moon]

anyone else having issues with imposters T-Posing?

[wintry dome]

I've been trying to upload avatars. I've got CC, Unity Hub, Unity. I know how to create new avatar projects, I know a little about poiyomi shaders. I've watched a ton of youtube videos, and done a bunch of querying ChatGPT. I've in rare instances been able to resolve all the inevitable errors that always show up when I import an avatar from Gumroad. But even when I make it that far and I click on Build and Publish, it just gets stuck on Progress "Building Avatar" and never finishes. I'm looking for a place to go to ask questions to help me get over this final hump so that I can successfully upload my first avi from Gumroad. Is this the best place for me to learn the stuff that I'm lacking? Or are there other places that can help a noob like me figure it out?

[rocky nova]

looks like it worked, thank you!

[wispy moon]

this seems as good a place as any

[austere bay]

just send over some more specific questions and people can help:) It'll probably help to send your error logs if the avatar is failing to build

[open cipher]

Im still having a problem guys :(. My avatar is weirdly twitching and I dont know why. I removed all layers and she still twitches, I have no idea. No colliders, etc.

[spark walrus]

my avatar has failed a security check and i have had this avi uploaded for a long time im not a crasher quest side can see it but when im on pc its just a robot and it just happend after the update

[austere bay]

first, make sure your sdk and creator companion are up to date, if they are then maybe start looking at how optimised ur avi is, you can send the stats here if you're not sure if it's too unoptimised and stuff :)

other than that it may be caused by certain packages, you can start to remove animation layers from your avi and see if that fixes things?

if none of that works then idk :(

[austere bay]

make sure there's no jaw bone mapped, that can cause locomotion issues I think, also click on ur avatar in the heriarchy then I think under animation in the inspector just remove the animation layer

I'm not at pc i can't check what it's called :(

but if you click on ur avatar and send a screenshot of the inspector I'll lyk!

[open cipher]

there is no animation controller

[austere bay]

had to take a screenshot of a YouTube video, sorry for the low quality, but make sure there's no animation layer here basically

idk then

sorry :(

[open cipher]

I will see about removing jaw bone

[austere bay]

also just make sure all the bones are mapped properly too

sometimes the chest doesn't automatically get detected

[supple needle]

Might I ask if anyone knows a simple tutorial for a walk cycle display in unity ? ^_^

[agile gyro]

anyone know why the clothing of the avatar that is uploaded not showing?

[gentle goblet]

Ack so um, I have Av3Creator and I just set up some toggles but when I go enable the emulator to try and use them none of them work, like I some things will auto toggle off that were ment too but even them I then can't interact with that option either >~>

[wary perch]

Bruh. Does this mean VRChat's servers said no?

Unrelated, somewhat related question. How egregious is the bandwidth usage of Disney+?

[naive spoke]

what did I do wrong

[wary perch]

Got this one this time.

[naive spoke]

I'm on desktop rn but I usually play in vr with fbt

maybe if I calibrate my fbt it will be normal?

[wild venture]

hello all have a question

is there something called a Ravio Shader

[wary perch]

This is the first time I'm hearing about that.

[wary perch]

That looks like an issue with either the muscle settings, or an issue with the rig its self.

[wary perch]

The reason I'm asking this is because I need to know if I need to wait for my brother to quit streaming. (He does this all night.😒 )

[strong lion]

Ok.

I tried to add a capsule collider to right and left leg. I also added colliders to the skirt.

I also tried to do it with cloth later on

I tried to have insert capsule colliders for the skirt and this gave the best results till now .

But it's still little cranky.
I don't know how to do it tbh

Old

New ..

This is with another outfit .

It's kinda tricky though due to the maid outfit has 4 skirts under it

The problem that I had first is fixed it seems that I used the wrong tool to fit the cloths on. I now used fury tool

But yea no idea how to fix the issue it seems everything gos in to the front due to the insert capsule colliders attached to her leg but only in sit position

But without them it doesn't react how it supposed to be.

[snow goblet]

any way i could fix this weird rigging issue in blender or unity..?

[naive spoke]

should I just import one of the models from prefabs?

[wary perch]

Rename the bones in Blender. You got Upper and Lower arm mixed up.

[naive spoke]

does that usually mean that it's all set up for me

[wary perch]

It's worth a try. Remember to backup your project!

[snow goblet]

i know this isnt correct to say, this is an issue with parenting and not bone names .w.

[wary perch]

It thinks your bicep and your tricep are swapped. You named the bone that should be attached to the shoulder with the name of the bone that should be connected to the hand. Lemme quick draw a diagram so it gives a better visual.

[naive spoke]

that worked

[wary perch]

Noice :3

[wooden cairn]

Is there a way to reorder menu items generated with VRCFury?

[wary perch]

I've only ever used it once, but I'd imagine it would be done the old fashioned way.

[somber meadow]

using a Reorder Menu Item component

[wooden cairn]

I'm blind

I was looking for that exactly and couldn't find it

Thanks 👍

[wary perch]

OOooh! I had no clue that was a thing! 😄

[gentle goblet]

Still just kinda stuck ;-; Idk what is going wrong

[snow goblet]

fixed via blender, it was just a bone that became unparented, and not renamed

[restive bronze]

someone help me please, ever since Blender got updated the weight painting tools are RUINED

I don't know how to use anything, there's no subtract tool anymore and I'm losing my mind trying to figure this out

what is this??

[somber meadow]

Subtraction is still in the blend type

[wary perch]

Here I thought it was a naming issue. 🤣

[wind skiff]

lmao, imagine pirating an avatar and getting upset that people don't want to help you with it

[somber sequoia]

haha yeah

[somber sequoia]

dunno, they work fine to me, same as they have for a while now. Subtract seems to be ctrl+add, I never used that tool since I have a tablet and also that trick.

[proper depot]

Hello, I cant adjust my view point, its like stuck to my avatar???

[ancient herald]

does anyone know the thing you put on your avi where you can move your arms for desktop?

[proper depot]

gogo loco??

[ancient herald]

i can move my arms on desktop with gogo? how?

[ancient herald]

how do i do that?

[proper depot]

I dont think you can specifically move your arms with gogo loco but theyre newer version has alot of animated stuff! Defo recommend in general for desktop

[ancient herald]

there used to be something you can move your arms with with like a redial

[slate goblet]

Anyone know the fix?

[gloomy flint]

heyyy i bought a free asset off of gumroad (a flashlight) and it gave me a license key right

.. where do i put that?...

https://tenor.com/bJec1.gif

i dont know what i do with license keys bc usually the prefabs i get don't have them so i'm just kinda staring at it and looking through my SDK

for anyone worried, heres the receipt in my email i just have no idea where i put keys

ig i just.. try building again? god VRCC is such a fickle jerk

squints loudly at the fact it went up fine this time despite changing nothing

god i hate you vrcc

[blazing echo]

tf do i fix this

[gloomy flint]

clears throat

thats the neat part. you don't /s

in all honesty you can actually still upload it

its just telling you that if you made this avatar, and you get this error, there MIGHT be animation issues when you load into it in VRChat, but 9 times out of ten, unless you messed with the Defaults, its fiiiiine

[soft coral]

I have FinalIK component on an avatar (FABRIK) the VRChat documentation says it's an allowed component however in game they don't function like in unity (play mode)

[gentle goblet]

could anyone helps 👉 👈

[heavy zephyr]

Hi again haha. Would probably be a good idea to post screenshots of what you're doing as av3creator is not a very well known tool at all like I mentionned to you earlier

[heavy zephyr]

FinalIK components are allowed on avatars but they aren't guaranteed to function as VRChat uses a heavily-modified version of them. Furthermore you have to take into consideration that your avatar already uses a specific execution order that you have to work around

[soft coral]

That's a pretty broad answer but I think I get what you mean ? You have to take a gamble to see what works properly ? I thought that the FinalIK stub fixed that kind of thing? It's confusing, I just wanted to bypass using aim constraints -3-

[heavy zephyr]

FinalIK stub is just a bunch of FinalIK skeleton prototypes to allow you to upload stuff using FinalIK without having it in your project. It doesn't do anything by itself and can't be used to test in-editor

If you want to test FinalIK in-editor, you need the full FinalIK package. But that doesn't remove the fact that FinalIK components are used in modified forms by VRChat.

[soft coral]

So, is it worth me trying to make FinalIK work in VRChat for what I need it for or not, this isn't really answering my question

[heavy zephyr]

I can't give you a better answer than this. This is following what the documentation says and informing you of what the stub is. Usage of FinalIK component is largely undocumented but you could try your luck by asking the VRLabs community, I know a few of them have tinkered with those components quite a bit

[unreal pasture]

its called make it urself with animation

make a hand move up down left right

and radial toggle on them done

[slate goblet]

Hello, for some reason when I use the avatar height feature in-game. My avatar doesn't scale. Only the camera moves up if I want to get taller, etc. Anyone know why this might happen?

[heavy zephyr]

You may have a scale constraint on your armature or somewhere that takes priority over it

[slate goblet]

Would you mind hopping into VC quickly and I can sharescreen? Armature doesn't have anything on it directly.

[heavy zephyr]

Sure I'll take a quick look

[fading trout]

I updated my unity version to 2022 and it broke my avi, its karin model. How do i fix this? i have it on some other avis too when i update the unity project

[icy pewter]

guys

i really need help

how to fix this i cry

i bought vr and trackers and model for this game and get these error i cry

[fading trout]

you tried reimporting the vrc sdk?

[icy pewter]

omg whats that

[slate goblet]

There is a scale constraint on the "eee" stuff. With target transform to be my avatar.

could be an issue?

[heavy zephyr]

That would do it

[fading trout]

Try clicking this button and then click the plus symbol afterwards to reimport it

[icy pewter]

wow thank you let me try this !

[slate goblet]

Enough to remove target transform or, do I have to remove the whole scale thingie?

[heavy zephyr]

Well depends what that eee stuff does but you can at least test by disabling the constraint

[slate goblet]

I got no clue so I will just disable and see

[slate goblet]

Yeah that worked. It now works as it should. Thanks for the help :)

[heavy zephyr]

Happy to help

[icy pewter]

wtf i fix it somehow thanks for ur help😭

[fading trout]

np it mentioned vrc sdk so i assumed so

[slate goblet]

So... how do I fix so the feet aren't pointed inwards like this

in the "idle" pose I guess

[sudden creek]

Hello there! Can someone help me with the problem that my Avatar is having, it seems that the Viseme and maw movement of my Avatar isn't doing anything. It's eyes move, doesn't make any facial expression, only this one:

[sudden creek]

Also I'm suggesting on your problem, is the animation like that as well? As in the Unity Editor?

[slate goblet]

If I press play then yeah

Otherwise no

[sudden creek]

So there is a chance that it's the animation for the idle pose. When you press play in Unity, it starts it in a idle pose I believe. So if you can try to change the animation for the idle pose with a different one, and see if it changes the pose, and doesn't have the legs pointed inward.

[somber sequoia]

in Unity? Did you map the jaw bone? If so, unmap it.

[sudden creek]

How would i map the jaw bone, even if I did?

[somber sequoia]

rig setup

inspector for model file, rig tab, configure

[sudden creek]

oh, ok one sec

Ok, It was mapped, now how would I test the speech?

[somber sequoia]

Play mode in Unity, using Gesture Manager or Lyuma's AV3 emulator

well I assume gesture manager does this - I use AV3 Emulator

[sudden creek]

I use the Gesture Manager, am I able to to use my mic with the Gesture Manager, to test it?

[somber sequoia]

no. there should be a way to trigger each viseme

[sudden creek]

one sec

Would this work? with the viseme, or the voice?

[somber sequoia]

I'm really not familiar with doing this in Gesture Manager.

[sudden creek]

Ok, let me try it

It's seems to not work. I might install the AV3 Emulator

Still no outcome

[somber sequoia]

must not have your viseme blendshapes setup right in the avatar descriptor, or maybe they aren't present on the model?

[sudden creek]

This is how I have them setup.

[somber sequoia]

looks right

assuming that's the correct body mesh

[sudden creek]

it is

[somber sequoia]

and you don't have a separate head or something

[sudden creek]

i might just remove the avatar and import the original unitypackage for the avatar

[sudden creek]

It isn't

Yeah I'm gonna start from Scratch, almost everything is so cluttered

[peak knot]

do i reimport poiyomi?

[somber sequoia]

I'd try that, yes

[round pagoda]

couldn't hurt. do you import Poiyomi via the VCC package?

[gloomy pier]

any idea why some of my playable layers are gone?

[somber sequoia]

no gesture = avatar not humanoid

[gloomy pier]

ohh

lmao

mb thx

[peak knot]

i use that

[somber sequoia]

it's super convenient to get it via VCC

[peak knot]

yea ur right

hope it works

[round pagoda]

I use https://poiyomi.github.io/vpm/
for the easier version control

[peak knot]

okay

[somber sequoia]

yup, that

[peak knot]

tyyy

[fierce spear]

is it just me, or weightpainting shorts is like, the HARDEST piece of clothing to weightpaint

[night ember]

I usually just grab the legs and scale scale them out slightly to have shorts

[somber sequoia]

Yeah shorts are pretty hard

Don't be afraid of moving the clothing mesh further from the body

[fierce spear]

im almost done weightpainting them

there's just one little hiccup here

might just try to pull the mesh more out

feels lazy tho

[night ember]

Just grab a section of the hips and leg then duplicate and scale out

Now you got a good base to work with thats already weight painted

[fierce spear]

i dont think i follow

OH! that's for making new shorts, no, im weightpainting something that i got off gumroad.

thanks for the suggestion though!

[round pagoda]

I haven't done much weight painting but what I usually do is that I copy the armature and delete all the bones I don't want to assigned to the thing I'm adding, and then I Parent With Automatic Weights, delete the temporary armature, and assign it to the actual armature. it's scuffed but it works most of the time

[idle jetty]

Does anyone know how to fix it when I move my head it moves the entire avatar in the mirror

[somber meadow]

you sure that's just the mirror?

either your model's extremely offset in the rig configuration or viewpoint is off on the X axis

[idle jetty]

Yes and I can’t see my avatars hands

[somber meadow]

if you can't see your own avatar by looking down, it's not just the mirror having the issue

[worthy summit]

where can i find the default animation controllers for the avatar in unity? i've been looking everywhere

[wispy moon]

Why is the generated imposter for my Avi A-Posing?

[somber meadow]

Packages/VRChat SDK - Avatars/Samples/AV3 Demo Assets

[agile gyro]

how to add accessories to an avatar if it already has it on

wont show in gesture manager

[ornate stump]

How did you add it?

[agile gyro]

can i explain in a vc

?

[ornate stump]

I don't vc. Just take a screenshot of your current setup.

[agile gyro]

alr

show here?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[agile gyro]

basically, i have the outfits and etc but in the wheel, its not showing. why?

[ornate stump]

Did you actually create a menu for it?

[agile gyro]

no?

i thought it did

not sure

[ornate stump]

You didn't for sure?

[agile gyro]

ye

[ornate stump]

You didn't create the menu so there will be no menu. Unless the asset were setup with modular avatar and there would be auto menu.

[agile gyro]

i didnt create one ig

[fluid pumice]

This? https://modular-avatar.nadena.dev/

[spiral jay]

does anyone know how to add bones to a booth avi? im new to this and want to add tummy bones

[spark walrus]

Uhh

My vrc sdk is broken for this one avatar

I’m trynna upload

Like it won’t open

😭

[spiral jay]

compiler error?

[night ember]

Blender

[spiral jay]

sorry about this but how do i do it i blender? i can never get it to merge with the armature without it combusting when i put it back in unity

[night ember]

If you unpacked the avatar at all in unity you are fucked

[somber sequoia]

^

I was just typing that 🙂

[spiral jay]

whaaaaa

but shes fine after editing her and all its just when i try to add a bone to her armature

🥲

[night ember]

Never unpack the avatar

[somber sequoia]

Yeah don't unpack, and export from Blender with the same settings as the previous time, and it ought to work out just fine

[night ember]

The whole reason why it breaks it becausw you unpacked it

[somber sequoia]

occasionally you have to redo the rig setup, but that's only if you reconfigure major humanoid bones

[night ember]

When unpacking its literally not the fbx anymore by unity's standards and cant be repacked

[spiral jay]

OH NO

i didnt unpack her

she looks fine in blender before i try to add a bone n fine in unity too

she died everytime after i added a tummy bone and exported it to unity. this is my 6th time inporting her package again n sculpting.

[night ember]

Then drag in a new copy of the fbx instead of trying to keep the prefab in scene

[spiral jay]

okie dokie

[worthy summit]

how do proxy animations work? i'm trying to slightly edit the "peace" animation from what it usually is in-game to just the middle finger in a different position, but the proxy_hands_peace that's in the sdk is nothing how it looks in-game, so when i build, it's all screwed up. i really want to avoid repositioning everything from scratch. is there a way to figure out how to grab the actual animation that i have in game and put it in unity?

[somber sequoia]

do you already have a layer of gestures in your animators which use specific animations for these? Or are you using the default gesture layer

[worthy summit]

i copied the animation controller from the sdk and edited the "Peace" one to my changed animation

forgive how i named things i've been doing this for like 3 hours

[somber sequoia]

ah I was asking if you already had some animations which were not the default, but I guess not

[worthy summit]

oops sorry

everything else i kept "proxy." i only wanted to change the peace sign

the solution i see is to just go into proxy_hands_peace and reposition everything manually but i'm hoping there's a way to just grab the animation that actually plays in-game and just make two adjustments

[somber sequoia]

I haven't looked, I assumed that was the in-game animation

[worthy summit]

it apparently isn't. it's slightly different

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure what this image shows, but I believe you. That's interesting.

[night ember]

Why not just edit that one

[worthy summit]

i'm trying to avoid it lol. i can realistically do it, but i was wondering why they were different

[night ember]

Pretty sure the default animations are generated ingame

[worthy summit]

ah okay

is there any way to get access to those?

[night ember]

Not really

[worthy summit]

alright gotcha

i appreciate the help, otherwise i would be still searching for animations that weren't there, i'm just gonna position everything manually

[tranquil sparrow]

Hellooo, i'm having an issue, i bought an avatar and some outfits made for it, but i dont know / understand how to combine the base prefab of the avatar with an outfit prefab, if someone can help me manage this out :,)

[night ember]

Blender

[tranquil sparrow]

Is it the only way ?

[night ember]

The only way that wont multiply your bones with every piece of clothing

[spiral jay]

do u have modular avatar?

[tranquil sparrow]

I'm not gonna use it in VRC, but for Vtubing, i already know how to turn .unitypackage into .vrm, i dont think it will be an issue if i delete the base clothing to add the new one

[tranquil sparrow]

idk anything about avatar creation, i dont know how to anwser that

[night ember]

If you dont plan on ever editing it then unpack and drag bones to bones

[exotic mica]

Can anyone tell what this is? Im trying to fix this but nothing works

[spiral jay]

ohhhhh. dang i just started making them so i dont know much out beside that. i watch a couple of tutorials n that what i used.

[somber sequoia]

explain what it is we should be looking at.

[tranquil sparrow]

it's fine nw :>

[spiral jay]

u use poi?

[tranquil sparrow]

Okayy, got it thanks, gonna try this

[night ember]

You need to use a transparent material

[exotic mica]

ye poi pro

[exotic mica]

The white stuff over the face...

[spiral jay]

oh its the same as lil

as he said u just change the option material to transparent

[exotic mica]

So its not a texture issue but a material?

[somber sequoia]

Probably what Diven said then, yep

[somber meadow]

materials are what render on your avatar and are responsible for the shading options, textures are just a component of materials (if the applied shader to the material uses them)

[night ember]

it needs to be set to transparent with an actual transparent texture

[exotic mica]

i can try, but i got no idea how to select the mat used in that expression tho

[pastel night]

when a part pf my body goes trough a mirror i can see a naked version of that body part

[somber meadow]

It'll most likely be under the face mesh, double click the face in Unity so it's outlined in orange and look in the inspector for a "Blush" or "Transparents" material

[exotic mica]

Appreciate it 🙏

[spiral jay]

thank youuuuuu. i got it to work! i was freaking out at first because i forgot to weightpaint

[pastel night]

like my mirror is rendering parts of my body that afe behind it and shouldnt be being mirrored

but its rendering it without clothing, and only the backfaces it looks like

[somber sequoia]

are you using a weird shader or have set weird shader settings?

like the rendering queue value maybe

[pastel night]

not that im aware, using liltoon, was fine before

render queue is 2000

mirror is up against my face with body behind it, thighhighs invisible in mirror and its still reflecting my feet

[spiral jay]

turn the cull mode off

these are mine it does just fine

[pastel night]

was doing same but showing whatever color i had set for backfaces instead

when i tried that before

[spiral jay]

why are ur back faces on?

[somber meadow]

you shouldn't render things that you're not going to see (the inside of a body for example). Turning off culling is pointless in this situation

[spiral jay]

i meant why are u using it😭

[spiral jay]

danggg. welp then idk. 🥲

[sturdy ocean]

Can anyone help me I have been working on this project for days and can’t get anywhere

[somber meadow]

explain your issue first

[pastel night]

so no idea what the cause is?

[sturdy ocean]

Nope

[regal mango]

Hello, does anyone have the website for using the proper lighting for yer vr models in unity so they show up right in vr chat?

to paste in unity?

[somber meadow]

As in previewing your avatar in different lighting conditions in Unity?

https://github.com/hai-vr/lightbox-viewer

[regal mango]

thank you so much!

[sturdy escarp]

Working on an avatar; even though VRC SDK is latest version, I'm not getting VRC constraints as a component option. its also not listed in VRCSDK/Utilities.

[restive bronze]

Either GoGo Loco hates me or I'm doing something wrong

I've been trying to make this avatar of mine able to fly with gogo loco but the flight toggle REFUSES to work

Could it be because of my avatar's size?

[somber meadow]

are you installing GGL manually or through VRCFury

[restive bronze]

I'm using it through VRCFury

[hasty grail]

how can i reduce this?

[somber meadow]

use VRCFury's parameter compressor or remove parameters

[hasty grail]

theres a compresser o.o

[somber meadow]

yeah just add it to your avatar root

try it with the default settings first

[hasty grail]

well tahts better than what i just did, time to revert

[somber meadow]

it'll compress floats primarily, remote users will have a slight delay at the addition of more parameter space

[hasty grail]

i think its mostly bools and ints

[somber meadow]

you can also compress those with the settings which is a little experimental

just see if the default settings gets you to where you need to be

[hasty grail]

trying now, just waiting for the build i tried tro finish

[somber sequoia]

Probably also take a look at why you have so many - maybe you have lots of extra assets on toggles and want to split the avatar up into multiple.

[hasty grail]

a big chunk of it is my stuff, just adding aavrcf asset made it 8 more

[hasty grail]

is there a way to see what number it compresses to?

[somber sequoia]

it's likely some of these you don't need - such as the boop/headpats, those can probably just be animator parameters

[hasty grail]

dont they need to be synced for others to see it?

and to be toggled on/off

[somber sequoia]

Depends - lots of animator parameters are automatically synced

[restive bronze]

I used the VRCFury prefab for Gogo Loco and it does work if I spam space, but if I move with W,A,S,D, it stops working

[gentle goblet]

These are the tabs for each step I guess, I'm not sure how it will help but yeah, on the last one I just can't select the toggle, like nothing happens when it should activate >~>

[somber meadow]

Go into play mode and read the parameters asset

[regal mango]

hey, does anyone know of a good youtuber who goes into detail about teaching people how to transfer blender files into unity and texture them right?

I would love some channels to teach myself

for the future~

[somber sequoia]

I think I gave you two the other day? Was that you?

[regal mango]

yes but they didn't really explain a lot of the problems i encountered and i'm still struggling and looking up answers

i didn't want to be a bother

[somber sequoia]

ah ok. You're welcome to ask questions here if you got stuck

it's kinda what the channel is for

[regal mango]

:'''3 you guys are so wonderful

I bought an avatar from a website and it comes in blender format, and i don't know what I'm doing. I installed blender, unity and now i'm watching videos on how to transfer them but i look at the folder and it's like reading chinese.

which one do i push and then what settings to i click to make it all work right durp

[somber sequoia]

file -> export -> export FBX, select both "Mesh" and "Armature" objects, set "apply scalings" = FBX All, uncheck the box for leaf bones under Armature. Put that file in your Unity project.

[regal mango]

once it's there, do i drag it to unity? because i saved it exactly like that in the folder last time.

like in the little box thing?

[lethal inlet]

Trying to upload an avatar i paid to be made, but its giving me errors and idk how to fix-

[somber sequoia]

no idea what little box thing

[somber sequoia]

feel free to paste the first few (top) errors in here

[lethal inlet]

Their all related to Psy bones

The top 3

[regal mango]

i did it!

[somber sequoia]

You have a bunch of optimizing to do, there's lots of discussion in #quest-optimization

[lethal inlet]

.... ;-;

Idk where to start

i JUST installed unity

[somber sequoia]

tutorial time!

[lethal inlet]

And installed all the stuff to install the avatar

[regal mango]

how do i put the textures in here from the folder? like i have the files i just don't know how to plop it in there

or is it already there maybe and i just have the wrong lighting? i'm so lost

[somber sequoia]

drag and drop?

[low sleet]

They can’t find them

[spark walrus]

Uhh

[low sleet]

Oh hell no😭

[spark walrus]

The pain

[regal mango]

it didn't work

i tried dragging the eye shadow where is said eye shadow but it didn't work

i think i'm not doing it right

[somber sequoia]

what is it you're trying to do?

[regal mango]

apply the texture to the unity model

[somber sequoia]

Make sure the texture is in the project (drag/drop), then find the material you want to change and drag the texture into the appropriate slot.
Textures go into materials, materials are applied to mesh objects.

Mesh objects are the parts you actually see.

[regal mango]

ohhhh

[somber sequoia]

Basic tutorials generally cover this

[regal mango]

wait so for it to be in the project, do i just drag it in the box here?

like drag all this into the box?

[somber sequoia]

sure, though you may want to organize them into folders

[regal mango]

ohhhhhh each skin says it's a compressed ao, what does that mean?

[somber sequoia]

image compression is good

[regal mango]

does that mean it just layers on top of eachother?

[balmy sun]

help how do I lower uncompressed avatar size?

[somber sequoia]

remove stuff, decrease texture size, remove unused blendshapes, etc. See also #avatar-optimization or #quest-optimization

[gloomy flint]

whyc was i pinged-

[regal mango]

i'm getting there!

[somber sequoia]

ah, that's got a whole game rig with IK targets and controls, interesting.

[regal mango]

it's a pain in my butt is what it is! all these heckin versions of it

all these files

i'm buying from gumroad next time

horrible tattoo ridden chick avis be darned

[primal thistle]

Is there any way to duplicate an entire menu tree and not have the new menu pointing at the old submenus?

like if I duplicate "main menu" and "submenu", "main menu 1" will point to "submenu" instead of "submenu 1"

[somber sequoia]

you can certainly do that with a C# program, but I haven't seen an already-made tool for doing it

[primal thistle]

oof.wav

[ornate stump]

I would use modular avatar for managing menu for individual avatar.

[primal thistle]

I'm working with existing avatar bases so I'm not sure that fits my use case

[frozen goblet]

I am working on a quest version of this avatar I don’t know how to make the eyebrows and eyelashes normal looking

[ornate stump]

You could convert any existing menu file into avatar specific menu. The menu get construct from menu component you added to your avatar.

[ornate stump]

The eyelashes rely on cutout shader which quest avatar doesn't support.

[frozen goblet]

Oh ok

So there’s nothing I can do?

[somber sequoia]

cut out the mesh instead of relying on transparency

[frozen goblet]

Ok 👍 thank you

[ornate stump]

Change out the eyelashes would be an option if you could use blender.

[gloomy flint]

i absolutely hate how quest cant use transparency shaders for the sole reason of; Fishnets.

I can't believe they're censoring my gothiness

[frozen goblet]

I have no idea how to use blender but thank you 😊

[ornate stump]

You just have to make the transparent part skin color instead.

[somber sequoia]

yeah, you can absolutely do fishnets

[gloomy flint]

yeah but for an avatar that can change skin color it's a bit,,,

[somber sequoia]

you can change that part too

[ornate stump]

That would be excessive on quest if you're using different texture for each skin color.

[gloomy flint]

my whole thing is the amount of extra work to be done to replace transparency

@Ren Yeah, that's why I was kinda just complaining bc of all the extra textures I'd have to make versus making one with transparency :(

[arctic ginkgo]

texture them on

[somber sequoia]

Better extra work than dropping your framerate by half

[arctic ginkgo]

and for the love of everything pls don't model fishnets

[gloomy flint]

i'm gonna model them /s

[arctic ginkgo]

like don't individually model threads

pls

i see it far too often

[somber sequoia]

ugh no

[gloomy flint]

that's my actual mood at people who make chains tho, like the jewelry chains

why is every individual link modeled, my brother

[somber sequoia]

oh that's right, I need to help a friend replace some modeled fishnets with something more reasonable

[somber sequoia]

good way to hit 750k polys

[arctic ginkgo]

that is a little bit sad that you can't use transparency on quest just bc of chain cards for jewelry 😔

[gloomy flint]

don't forget a bump map if the reason its modeled is to add depth! :)

[arctic ginkgo]

you can get away with modelling individual links, but only do it if it's a large and short chain (visually large, doesn't have many links)

[ornate stump]

For quest avatar, you usually want to add things at minimum for better quality. If you added so many thing on it, each thing will take up more space and the only way to allow it to be uploaded is to decrease quality for each thing.

[gloomy flint]

i've uploaded plenty of quest avatars already to know how painful it is to crunch everything down to fit. I usually leave 2 outfits on max with only the bare minimum of accessories that I can get away with to fit my style

[arctic ginkgo]

if you need to have chains on quest, make them as low poly as possible, and if they are small (like for jewelry) either texture them straight onto the model or texture them on a separate mesh with the background the same color as the mesh behind it. You can also sometimes get away with having 2D chains where the images are just cut out (pretty much just chain cards but manually cutting out the transparent parts)

[gloomy flint]

If I really need to, and it's just one outfit, I'll just merge the meshes lmao-

[arctic ginkgo]

if you use normal maps it can look pretty convincing without the chains being actually modeled out

[pallid jolt]

what mean

[somber meadow]

You have a mesh named head, Unity cannot have multiple objects named the same in rig configuration

rename the head to something else like Face in blender

[pallid jolt]

ok

thank!

[tranquil sparrow]

Hey, so uh, i couldnt figure out if what i did is right or wrong, can you explain to me the step by step things i have to do ? sorry to bother you :,)

[sudden hornet]

how do i change the vrchat avatar preview animation when you select the avi when it has gogoloco?

[tranquil sparrow]

If anyone wanna help, i'm want to add clothes to an avatar, the clothes and the avatar are prefabs, and i dont plan on using it on VRC, so i dont really care if it causes some performance issues :,)

[ornate stump]

https://modular-avatar.nadena.dev/docs/tutorials/clothing
And read installation in the front page if you haven't install modular avatar.

[tranquil sparrow]

Thanks ! I'm planning to turn my avatar into a .VRM for Vtubing, do you think it will cause any issues ?

[ornate stump]

Probably not. You could manually bake into non-modular when you're ready to port to vrm.

[tranquil sparrow]

(i already know how to turn unity avis into vrm avis)

[tranquil sparrow]

Okok i see, any ideas on how to do it ?

[ornate stump]

Read the manual in modular avatar.

[tranquil sparrow]

Thanks a lot !

[winter edge]

why Can't I enable the sound for play mode in scene?

[somber meadow]

Do you have a camera in your scene with an audio listener component on it

[winter edge]

Like this?

[quiet mulch]

My avatar view keeps looking at the face and is backward, I keep on moving it in the face, head, between the eyes, and outside the body, it's stuck like this

[ornate stump]

Your avatar likely contains a camera object.

[burnt hull]

can someone help with this?

[ornate stump]

Just reduce some texture resolution.

[burnt hull]

where would i do that

[ornate stump]

Texture file, select from the Project tab.

[burnt hull]

this?

[ornate stump]

Max size. And look at the size in preview below.

[burnt hull]

i changed it but it still stays the same

[ornate stump]

You have to build agian to recalculate the size.

[burnt hull]

thank you i got it to work!

[gentle goblet]

;-; It's still not workings