avatar-help

[inland seal]

Too much information

And idk where to find all of that stuff

[dusk pulsar]

I suppose it's blendshapes. Click on body, and then look on right - you can use sliders.

Which shrink parts

Otherwise, some models have some parts removed and the only way to recover is only blender and manual editing.

[inland seal]

The thing happens if I don't change nothing in the model

It's not the size problem

Or bones issue

The model is fine

Same in Unity

[dusk pulsar]

Your export settings are bad most likely

[inland seal]

The boundary is fixed and set as needed

[inland seal]

Nope

Fine also

[gritty hatch]

See I get the less crashers thing but limiting avatar size had nothing to do with it I haven't seen a crasher since eac was added yet last month since I researched it they dropped avatar size in half at this point making it impossible for any 4k avatars or avatars with high textures at all so far I've had to cut all my avatars to 1024

[dusk pulsar]

I've been crashed twice this month

[inland seal]

It happens even if I export without changing nothing

[dusk pulsar]

Crashers exist still, in fact, I found one by accident, randomly, which crashes your own game instantly. It has insane boundaries and a lot of mesh particles

[dusk pulsar]

You should change export settings all the time

Local vs FBX ALL is a lot of difference when it comes to scaling

[inland seal]

People are obsessed with crashers

I found 3 people using it on a server

[inland seal]

Idk how to use that

I don't even know what it means and where it is

[dusk pulsar]

Screenshots always help by the way. The easiest way to make screenshots is using "Shift + Windows Key + S"

Which lets you crop and take screenshots instantly

[dusk pulsar]

If I were at home, I could explain

[inland seal]

Ig I will just find a tutorial on YouTube

[dusk pulsar]

But follow on what I wrote before

[inland seal]

Okie

[dusk pulsar]

If needed, find related info on how to replicate that

[inland seal]

I will try

[dusk pulsar]

It's either unity being at 1 cm scaling instead of 1m, or bad export settings. Both can be fixed through Blender.

[inland seal]

I will try to search on YouTube

But can you tell me where I can scale it?

[dusk pulsar]

If Unity shows your FBX as 1 cm to 0.01m (or something like that):
In Blender - select all parts on the right, everything, press S, type 100, press Enter. Press CTRL + A (i think) -> Scale.
Export as FBX 0.01 scale, fbx all, uncheck add leaf bones, check apply transforms.

Otherwise skip scaling part, export as the last three steps (if Unity shows FBX as 1m instead of 1cm scale)

[inland seal]

Alright

[cunning sable]

Hey guys this might be more of a blender thing but I'm still hoping someone can give me some advice on this. I have this avatar I bought a long time ago and I altered the face shape a lot which caused the shading to be super weird. It's on auto smooth but even with fully smooth shading I still get these weird shadows that make the lips look like they're puckering. I tried to recalculate the normals, but it didn't change anything either. I'd appreciate any advice on what I could try to get rid of that weird shading. I usually just have to use flat shading on the face because of this, but I'd really like to just be able to fix this so it doesn't always have to be flat.

[hard turtle]

Help what happened>?

it was working perfectly fine

heh?

[junior void]

The message is about unity being confused which is your left upper leg

Not that its not present in blender

Go to your rig config settings

[hard turtle]

it was a lil more than just the leg

somehow my weight painting offed itself

[junior void]

Makes sense, unitys rig thing takes weights into account to auto detect. Shouldnt be a problem to mirror from the right leg tho if thats the case

[hard turtle]

Anddd its still offing itself

it was litterally just working

all i did was seperate the eyes in blender then reweight them then addthem back

wtf man

hes working in blender

the bones are all named correctly

anyone got any idea?

[junior void]

Well, i assume the bones are in the hierarchy and that it only doesnt recognize them anymore so technically you can drag them into their slots

however, this looks like you have a mirror modifier on

you should apply all modifiers except armature before exporting

[hard turtle]

it magically fixxed itself once i relaunched blender then exported the avatar as an fbx

so im assuming i toggled some random option that decided to ruin my day

but i still have no idea what it couldve been that had that effect

[pearl furnace]

I uploaded an avatar, and it's just a robot. is it corrupted or just bugged out?

[left gull]

does it say "security check failed" anywhere?

[pearl furnace]

Yep

[left gull]

which platform are you uploading it to?

[pearl furnace]

PC

[left gull]

ah likely an optimization issue and texture memory size being too large, take a screenshot of your model's stats in the upload panel

[pearl furnace]

Thing is, I just updated the picture and removed one of the dress I don't usually use. And it just turned into a robot

This is texture memory usage

[ornate stump]

Does it show uncompressed size?

[pearl furnace]

Where to see that

[ornate stump]

It should be showing in the performance list in the sdk.

Same place as where you're looking at the texture memory.

[pearl furnace]

I don't see any

[proper depot]

So I am using Eyelook, but for some reason her eyeballs go in a circle????

Is there some sort of thing I can edit to lessen their turning amount?

[ornate stump]

Then you're using old sdk which doesn't show the metric. That make you able to upload avatar with excessive size which make security check failed.

[heavy zephyr]

That's wayyy too big, please reduce that drastically

[pearl furnace]

Hmm, I see

Haven't touched this avi since last year

[heavy zephyr]

You should try not to exceed 150-

[pearl furnace]

Will do

Will fix it very soon

[heavy zephyr]

Start by importing Thry's avatar performance tools, this will help tell you which textures are too large and provide buttons to lower their resolution

[pearl furnace]

Okie okie

Thanks for the info

[modern scaffold]

gesture is not turning off

[proper depot]

Still unsure how to fix this 😭 her eyes just be spinnin

[heavy zephyr]

Are you animating that gesture in your FX layer? If so, separate the "gesture" part of the animation and instead have it toggle the giving gesture in your gesture layer

[modern scaffold]

nope its in the gesture layer

[heavy zephyr]

The "EyeLook" section of your avatar should define the maximum angle for eye rotations

[heavy zephyr]

Then it's probably conflicting with your regular gestures. You could just add that gesture to the same layer as the others and it should work

[modern scaffold]

ill try that, thank you

[proper depot]

for some reason when on preview, her eyes are backwards from the start, so I did rotate them quite a bit 🐥

[heavy zephyr]

Is it a model you made yourself? Cause if so you might need to reverse that in blender. If not that might be a bit more tricky. Perhaps you can change the default rotation of the eyes in the rig settings or in the armature directly?

[modern scaffold]

Ignore my fucked mic

[heavy zephyr]

You messed up a transition somewhere

[junior void]

looks like loop time

[heavy zephyr]

It's probably the logic dictating when to go to Idle/other gestures, you need to add the condition to check that Barbell is false

Otherwise it will keep going between Idle (because GestureLeft = 0) and your custom one

So every other gesture transition should check that Barbell is false

[modern scaffold]

got it 👍

worked you legends

cheers

[heavy zephyr]

Glad to be able to help 🫡

[livid rapids]

Haven't found any solution. Ive tried everything but it turns to be a problem only in-game. On blender and unity the coat ends are fine. Ive checked everything: mesh modifiers, rig, weight paint, unity rig and just anything connected to it. any help?

[heavy zephyr]

Does it happen when using gesture manager in unity?

[livid rapids]

Nope

[heavy zephyr]

Hmm... Do you by any chance have a physbone on a humanoid bone?

[livid rapids]

I do, but im pretty sure it shouldn't happen since the physbones of the coat are not parented to the legs.

Actually let me reword that

I only have physbones on the root of the hair and the coat.

the hair is fine but the coat also looks fine as well, at least outside of vrchat

[heavy zephyr]

Those are not humanoid bones, you're fine then

Humanoid bones are your actual rig bones

[lunar cypress]

You can un parent them and put them under the bones if you wanna

[livid rapids]

phew. Thank god my actual humanoid rig is all fine

Ive checked it while trying to fix it myself and it seemed fine

[heavy zephyr]

I would say, try adding a physbone collider to prevent the physbone on your coat from going inside your torso, maybe that'll do it

[livid rapids]

I'll try that!

[heavy zephyr]

Let me know if it does it

[livid rapids]

Alright! It should be pretty a quick process.

Nope. Still the same.

[heavy zephyr]

Have you checked that it does indeed prevent the physbone going inwards properly? Usually it requires the collider to be a bit bigger than it looks

Also only works if your physbone has a collision size that is adequate

If that still doesn't work, try deleting the physbone and see if that changes it. Could help pinpoint the issue

[livid rapids]

yeah let me actually remove it, maybe i dont even need it in the first place

[heavy zephyr]

It could still be applied to the lower/endbones to add some movement at the bottom of the coat without risking having it clip higher up

[livid rapids]

OKAY even with the physbones removed it still the same

[heavy zephyr]

Well at least that narrows things down

[livid rapids]

It confuses me how its only in that idle animation where the legs are close

[heavy zephyr]

I has to be some kind of weight paint discrepancy or something. Unfortunately I am not knowledgeable enough in blender to help on that front

[livid rapids]

Alright, ill try to research more. Thanks for helping tho!

[heavy zephyr]

Np!

[broken bone]

Blender has an option called "Preserve Volume" on the armature modifier. You wouldn't happen to have that enabled, do you?

[livid rapids]

Never had it enabled

[broken bone]

Hmm.. Maybe it has to do with weight normalization or something then. Hard to say

[livid rapids]

ive seen someone say to recalculate normals, im going to try if thats the thing

while that, let me post some weight painting images

Yeah the weight paint on the leg/thigh looks like this

[left gull]

For quest users which gogo loco should i be using or does it not matter?

[junior void]

iirc beyond one has stations which quest dont like

id use the "all" package on both

[livid rapids]

Tbh I might as well redo the entire bottom coat, maybe that could somehow fix it

[junior void]

Why are we looking at the legs?

[livid rapids]

This

[junior void]

Right but have you checked if this happens because of a bone lower than the leg?

Accidents happen and so what if theres some weight on the toe that causes it?
So what I'd do here is move the legs in blender so that the same thing happens, set the armature modifier to display poses in edit mode, then go into edit mode on the mesh, which will now stay posed and clipped, and select one of the funky vertices and see their weigt assignments

[somber sequoia]

set the armature modifier to display poses
This is such a useful trick that I wish I'd realized sooner

[south laurel]

someone who has substance painter willing to help me with something? i have an spp file for an avatar texture i need converted into something else

[junior void]

converted meaning

[somber sequoia]

no work, just export textures?

[south laurel]

yeah, i dont have substance painter and ive never used it, not sure if you can export it to something like a psd or not

[somber sequoia]

you can export texture files.. not sure about PSD (I never use it), but I can look

I'm not sure how much sense that actually makes

doesn't look like that works

no wait, here's the option

[junior void]

ive never heard anyone do that

[somber sequoia]

I'd be willing to try, if you'd like

now you got me curious

[south laurel]

can i dm you?

[somber sequoia]

of course

[junior void]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLGDiFhn8XY

im intrigued

[somber sequoia]

this character is pretty btw 🙂

[broken bone]

You can export a PSD with the exported textures in it, but if you want to preserve the layer structure you need a plugin--there's a free one I use

[teal vector]

I'm trying to add on an ring that can use a password and activate particals when another matching ring is around but I've never set it up I don't have any idea how does anyone have any tutorials that might help (ill check replies in an hour or so)

[junior void]

Well, spill it

[broken bone]

one sec, gotta find which one it was

[somber sequoia]

yeah I'm not sure what this is doing but it sure is working hard right now

[broken bone]

I believe it was this one:
https://github.com/AllegorithmicSAS/painter-plugin-photoshop-export

[somber sequoia]

I wonder where my plugins folder is

[broken bone]

It creates a document for each channel (Base color, roughness, normal, etc), but it keeps the layer structure of everything

[junior void]

have you had issues with blending modes so far

it mentions that it may be weird

[somber sequoia]

I also wonder where this is writing files 🙂

[broken bone]

I haven't yet-I think if you stick to basic blending modes like add/multiply, etc. it should be fine. Filters and the like won't transfer over though

[balmy plover]

chat is this good stats? or should i go scour for optimization videos again

[junior void]

thats a lot of tris

[balmy plover]

whermst is the reqirments list for like all the optimization ratings- i dont need exelent just something besides very bad 😭

[somber sequoia]

<70k is ideal, if you can manage it

[balmy plover]

time to decimate her socks 😎

[broken bone]

probably %temp% or something, until you save the PSD out

[somber sequoia]

oh wow yeah, this thing exports everything as .png files. All layers.

oh I seem to have a plugin for this, trying to see if it's the same one

[balmy plover]

this look better?

[junior void]

yea

[somber sequoia]

aha! Yes, this is the plugin I've got here.

[broken bone]

I just started using it recently, but it's very handy

[somber sequoia]

not sure why I have it, I've never used it before

[remote sinew]

how do you create facial expressions? like make the eyes, mouth and everything move

[left gull]

Do you already have Blendshapes on the model's mesh?

[icy sigil]

Hello i have a question!
I have been working on my avatars and i have never had this issue until today!
Dextrose Cloning and Carbon Copy!
I have used Dextrose in one of my avatars but however It uploads and works in the Unity Project nut when i Play the avatar in VRC My cloning option does not show up in the toggle wheel does anyone know why?

[junior void]

dex-what

[icy sigil]

Dextros Cloning

[livid rapids]

I have. Got no weight painting where it shouldn't be

could check again in a few minutes, just got home

[remote sinew]

idk if i should ask this here but.. is there a way to restore projects on creator companion- they were all deleted and idk why, all of my files and backups

[somber sequoia]

restore the files then just re-add the project to VCC, I think the button is "add project from disk"

[kindred pilot]

hi

i want help

i have this avatar im trying to upload, i want to remove the cross

i got the texture and removed it and added teh texture to a material to weadd

readd*

but the background inst clear? i made it clear when i edite it and in unity

but its black on the material

turned into this

[somber sequoia]

make sure you check "alpha is transparency" in the inspector for the base color texture file in Unity (assuming that's where your alpha is)

[kindred pilot]

yea its on

[somber sequoia]

use a shader with alpha enabled then, either cutout or one of the blending modes

(this doesn't work on mobile/quest)

[kindred pilot]

okay ty

[feral isle]

Hey everyone. got some problems, idk if its the sdk or not, but it doesnt allow me to open the sdk controlpanel at all, thought in the beginning it was the avatar that was messing up, but it doesnt allow it on any avatars. Anyone got an idea what could cause it?

[somber sequoia]

look in your console, there's likely a compile error you need to fix

[feral isle]

it's happening in every single unity project that i am making, im allowed to open packages and etc, but its when i have to actually upload it, the SDK just doesnt allow me to open the vrchat sdk.

[somber sequoia]

okay but did you do the thing I just said?

[feral isle]

im gonna get a picture of the problem rq

[runic ether]

Hey there, I have an avatar with 4 skinned meshes and 4 materials (even though they all use the same material.) I'm trying to optimize this avatar for quest and the shirt, shorts, and piercings all already have separate toggles for them. How to I go about combining everything while still being able to keep the toggles?

[somber sequoia]

are those the only errors?

[feral isle]

Yeah

[somber sequoia]

fascinating. Some networking issue then.

[somber sequoia]

You'll have to combine the meshes, combine/atlas the materials, then figure out a good way to hide the parts you don't want. Blendshapes will work, there are a bunch of ways.

[feral isle]

It works now, was on the wrong wifi

cheers man

[somber sequoia]

ha, that'll do it

[somber sequoia]

look in the console window for errors

(as it says)

[naive crest]

Yeah but I don’t get it I don’t see where the problem from😅

[somber sequoia]

are there not errors there?

[naive crest]

yes there is an error but im not that good to fix those type of problem :((

[somber sequoia]

are these the only 3? If not paste the first (top) few

[naive crest]

that all

[somber sequoia]

"missing script" - you didn't install some prerequisite, you'll need to do that first.

at a guess it's VRC Fury

[naive crest]

ahhhh fuck i forgot to add VRC Fury oulala im so sorry tobother you just for that

[naive crest]

Thank you for your help and sorry again 😅🙌

[split lodge]

i was wondering if I could get help uploading an avatar I bought ;_;

[wraith geyser]

hello, may someone tells me what it means please?

[somber sequoia]

Post the first 2-3 errors, this is probably a side-effect of something else

[wraith geyser]

its when i click play mode, my console get spammed with this error, and obviously my hair arent moving

thats the only other error

[left gull]

what part are you stuck on?

[split lodge]

so I'm wanting to buy an avatar but it says there possibility it would need manually updated so I didn't know if there was a way to make sure before hand or not

[somber sequoia]

it's really clear what that would mean

[split lodge]

well it says it on the main page not specifically for this ava

[somber sequoia]

can you link it?

[split lodge]

https://anonymousvrc.gumroad.com/l/Serenityy?layout=profile

[somber sequoia]

I don't see anything weird about that.

[somber sequoia]

I'd bet it's pretty unoptimized though 🙂

okay so that's pretty standard

[split lodge]

does that mean I'm good to buy it?

[somber sequoia]

I don't see anything weird here, but you make the call.

[split lodge]

it says 3.0 on it idk if that helps

[left gull]

3.0 just means it uses the current SDK type

basically its tell you unless quest is listed on the product its not quest supported

and if the model is older it'll need more work put into it to get it working

im honestly surprised their shop isnt taken down by now though due to the fact they're actively selling MMD/TDA content

[summer hearth]

If i upload a quest version of the avi using mobile materials, and a pc version using poiyomi, will they both work fine or?

[left gull]

in most cases it'll work absolutely fine

the only issues would be if you've got animated materials

[craggy token]

what should i do to get permissions?

[left gull]

?upload

[flat musk]

You must obtain at least "New User" Trust Rank in our Trust and Safety system in order to upload content. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.

As an aside, you must have a VRChat account to upload content. That means you can't use a Steam account, Oculus account, or Viveport account to upload content like worlds or avatars.

Source: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/frequently-asked-questions

[frigid kraken]

hiii i need help with this qwq i cant delete the upper chest

[junior void]

This needs fixing in blender

[frigid kraken]

oh my god... what do i need to do in blender

[left wharf]

See here > https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/rig-requirements/

[split lodge]

whats mmd tda?

[limpid sphinx]

So I am currently following this tutorial for my first model using a VRoid as a base, and she recommends buying a physbone package from the unity asset store - is this still up to date or is there a different option??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbwl9XIONuQ

[balmy barn]

outdated , we have physbones now

3.0 sdk+ have them so use that

[limpid sphinx]

Ohh... is there a more up-to-date tutorial I should follow on the unity side of things? I'm guessing all the blender fixes still apply

[balmy barn]

I convert vrm/vroids in blender for optimizing and not having wierd bones leftover

its like 5 clicks optimizing / adding things can be slower

[limpid sphinx]

I want to add extra physbones to the character's ears and make a few tweaks here and there

[balmy barn]

yup thats blender alright

their tutorial links to a old cats version, better one out there now https://github.com/teamneoneko/Cats-Blender-Plugin-Unofficial- | 3.6 <> 4.2

[limpid sphinx]

so in blender I'll have to add the bones and then make them interactive in unity, yeah?

[somber sequoia]

add bones and weight paint, yes.

[worldly whale]

all the toggles for this asset work in unity in play mode with gesture manager but not in game and i dont know why please help lol

[winter edge]

If my avatar is currently being put together by kitbashing booth assets.

How do I go about optimizing to poor/medium?

I saw some people use cats plugin in blender but do people somehow fuse all those meshes into one?

Is there than easy way to export your avatar as is into a mesh to be used in blender?

[summer hearth]

For some r3ason, everytime i try to switch to my avi whilst in a world, it just never switches bit when i rejoin or go to another world, it finally loads, its not bigger then my othee avis so whats up?

[night ember]

cache, internet, download being bottlenecked to all hell

[summer hearth]

I reset my cache, my internet has been the same before and after i modified the avi which was just some retextures and irs already downloaded in a world by myself

Ik its smth with my avi but ive seens avis with much higher texture memory, download size rtc work just fine so im so confused

[night ember]

switching to a different avatar and it not changing you at all is entirely independent of the avatar

most commonly its internet being really slow

[summer hearth]

But how come every other avi, both lower and higher in size switch just fine tho?

Even ones with like 400mb texture memory switch easily for me

[night ember]

vrchat be kinda stupid

[summer hearth]

Welp guess ima just load unity, fck around and see if Thats fixes it

Maybe its a specific asset loading in thats an issue or smth

[unborn axle]

I'm making pawpads for my avatar, however the ones on the left foot look like their normals are flipped, even though it clearly said otherwise in the blender file I uploaded the pawpads from. Also, blender file corrupted, said something like the DNA block was missing idk. Any ideas for how to fix with only unity?

[night ember]

pc only but some shaders like poiyomi can just disable culling

which is whats happening there

the faces are flipped

also just make a new blend file by importing the fbx

[unborn axle]

Thank you very much! :D

[humble roost]

Hi, im having issues with the new avatar system (most likely since i have never used it lol)
I wanted to try and get this to work, but idk what im doing wrong

[bright silo]

FaceInt NotEqual 0 for the blink will always be satisfied when any of the options are enabled, no?
That's why it's flickering between 2 animations.

[jolly pasture]

hoping i can get some help with the custom avatar i am trying to load in.

[carmine oracle]

I need assistance for an avatar im making.
I am trying to convert an MMD to a VRchat model, i was almost done with it but then the arms and hands detached, im pretty sure its just a rigging thing, so i went to the rigging screen
and im messing around trying to get it to work, in game it looks like the arms are detached, im new at this and im not sure what to do so please be paitent with me.
It looks like the arm and hand are two seperate models and when the arm moves its not saying the model for the hands should move? would like some assistance. (unity screenshot and In-game screenshot included)

[somber sequoia]

honestly, much of this is simply "learn blender". Joining meshes is trivially simple. Exporting is just file -> export -> export FBX, with some appropriate settings.

[somber sequoia]

arm bones are always attached if you want it to act reasonably humanoid. Mesh can be attached to whatever bones you want. Or not. This looks reasonable at a glance, I'm not sure what you're suggesting is wrong

[carmine oracle]

Im suggesting that the wrists are not connected to the hands in-game? I sent a picture showing my issue, it looks like just one hand but its actually both hands are completely disconnected from the arms and im not too sure how to fix it

[somber sequoia]

do you need to though?

I mean, if you're saying there should be arms then I'd say look at your model, it doesn't seem like there are arms here. I've seen a bunch of toony avatars that have hands but no arms

[carmine oracle]

There are supposed to be arms? I don't know what you're getting at but the model clearly has arms. My issue is that the hands on the avatar won't connect to the ends of the arms?

[somber sequoia]

ohh I didn't zoom in the pic on the right, thought that was a scarf or hair ribbon or something.
So then it looks like bad weight painting.

[carmine oracle]

Probably, you'd know better than me, I'm still learning how blender and unity, it's morso my fault anyway I probably should have taken a better picture haha

[somber sequoia]

yeah just wasn't clear what you were referring to, but I do see it now

[jolly pasture]

theres an obscure blender game that i pulled the character asset from and have loaded into vcc and i fixed the things that were preventing me from loading it into vrchat. but when i load it into vrchat its facing the wrong direction in accordance with the direction im facing and the lower half of its body is clipped into the ground. ive tried fiddling with rotation settings before pulling it from the game and the rotation settings in vcc. any help would be greatly appreciated. this is what the problems actually look like.

[somber sequoia]

bring it into Blender, face it towards the -Y axis, apply all transforms, export FBX, import that into Unity.

[jolly pasture]

alrighty, thank ya!

[somber sequoia]

oh - also make sure the feet are standing on the origin, 0,0,0

(then apply transforms)

[winter edge]

I see

In blender is there an easy way to delete a mesh along with it's associated bones at the same time?

So say I want to delete my booth model's hair. Can I delete all the bones with it too?

[somber sequoia]

you edit the armature separately from meshes, but it's easy enough to do

[jolly pasture]

do i have all 4 feet kinda like at the tips of an X and the center vertex is the origin?

[left gull]

mmd= Mikumikudance and TDA is/was one of the bigger creators of MMD content and has taken legal action against users in the past for not following their TOU (though its because their works were sold/used by SO many people way back when)

VRChat as a whole used to just steal/use stuff that wasnt originally allowed on the platform which made alot of MMD creators dissallow their works to be used on here

[somber sequoia]

oh I didn't realize it has 4 feet, that's going to be fun to rig.

[jolly pasture]

i dont plan on having any sort of animation

[carmine oracle]

okay so whatever program i used to automate this completely botched the arms, for some reason the gloves are on one bone and the lower arm is on another, Im workin on it give me a minute

[jolly pasture]

and i would be using it on desktop client cuz i dont have a headset

[somber sequoia]

then I'd have the front feet stand on the origin, since that'll map roughly to your humanoid skeleton

[somber sequoia]

looks like a game rip with all the bones sticking up like that. and I'm guessing the extra arm bones are actually twist bones

[carmine oracle]

If im thinking what youre thinking then yeah those extra little arm bones are probably twist bones

[somber sequoia]

twist bones are good

[jolly pasture]

how do i do this in 2.79

[somber sequoia]

why would you? 4.2.3 is out

(also I don't know for sure but in object mode, ctrl+a possibly?)

[jolly pasture]

because the game is only really stable in 2.79 and ive had issues loading it in newer versions.

[somber sequoia]

oh right, blender game

[jolly pasture]

lmao

[somber sequoia]

hey, today I learned that's actually a thing

[jolly pasture]

??

[hushed egret]

Hey so a friend just installed unity via the creator companion and he's trying to upload an avi, but the console is claiming "windowsstandalone not installed"

but if he clicks the open download page to install it, it just leads him to some backwater unitypage thats just a bunch of broken XML

[somber sequoia]

probably #creator-companion is better if you need help with that specifically

[hushed egret]

🫡

[jolly pasture]

it seems like it automatically applies transforms

should it be safe to export and load?

i have it standing front feet with 00 in between

[somber sequoia]

huh news to me if it does

[jolly pasture]

well the apply button is greyed out

[somber sequoia]

if you look in the 'item" tab of the right-side popup which you can toggle with 'n', if scaling is not 1 or location or rotation are anything but 0, then you have un-applied transforms, and that will cause problems

it may be greyed out if you're not in object mode with an object selected

[jolly pasture]

ohhh

gonna be for real and admit that i only started learning this shit yesterday lmao

[somber sequoia]

gotta start somewhere

[jolly pasture]

and i thought this would be simple

i have spent over 12 hours trying to get this to work

[sour sorrel]

i got a model from a friend and have no idea what im doing. i have creator companion, the model is rigged and everything, i just dont know where to go from here

[somber sequoia]

drag it into unity!

[sour sorrel]

thats it? just drag the file?

do i extract or just leave it as is?

[somber sequoia]

no there's much more. watch some tutorials, such as this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSwMz4WcajQ

[unborn axle]

I have activated back face with Poiyomi, however the shading looks like it's inverted. The normals are facing the right way in Blender, and they are currently using the exact same material in Unity. How would I fix this?

[humble roost]

wait huh, can you explain it better, i really dont know how this works, im just doing it off a tutorial thats also 3 years old now 😭

[bright silo]

Set the transition going into Connie Blink Expressions to FaceInt Equals 0

[humble roost]

she constantly blinks after that, and using the faces after make them stuck 😭 idk if i messed up or sthm else

[dusky badger]

Can someone upload some Avis for me?

[unborn axle]

Why can't you do it, if you don't mind me asking?

[dusky badger]

IDK how

[somber sequoia]

I just posted a tutorial video, there's a good place to start

[dusky badger]

It's all too confusing for me

[somber sequoia]

feel free to ask questions here if you get stuck

[dusky badger]

I would prefer if someone would upload them for me

[humble roost]

letting other people upload your avatar can be risky, since it requires them to login into your account (from my experience, had to help a friend once)

and not saying there are some people here, but its tricky to ask since you dont know if they take the chance to delete your account or what so ever

its best to ask someone if they could stream the process to upload the avatar and you do it step by step

[craggy forge]

Hey rq can anyone help me out w physbones, I have all of them set up to my avatar and show up but when I run gesture manager they do not work

[humble roost]

or yknow, let someone guide you

[left gull]

you'd also need to purchase the model for the person uploading to your account as almost no creators allow file sharing of any kind (and make sure its a person you trust as you'll likely register as the uploaders alt account from that point on)

[humble roost]

that too

[spark walrus]

hello

i would like a help if i can ask

[somber sequoia]

sure, just ask your question

[spark walrus]

how to make a togle

for my laser

[earnest jay]

yall so its a lil sily but trust, what do i have to do to make it so that you only hear the sound when u have the prime bottle next to ur ear

[somber sequoia]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqtSg6_W07Y or any other of the many many tutorial videos on this

[spark walrus]

cause when i turn on off my laser shit wont work but thanks

[stone cove]

Hii, I’m trying to make my first avatar following this video https://youtu.be/tDLOhAgrZTM?si=bn1uuFXJI7SzsSaM

I’ve restarted multiple times and everything looks correct and the same as the girl in the videos, but the eyelashes just do not want to co-operate.
I’m using the Amelia head, and the standard textures that come with it for reference.

I’ve been stuck at this stage and trying to work it out for like 5 hours 😭 so if someone could help me out I would be really grateful 💗✨

[somber sequoia]

ok well if you want help on a specific problem you'll have to show us what you've got and what doesn't work

[quasi briar]

Max distance

[quasi briar]

that's in blender, they'll look wrong because blender doesn't automatically make your textures alpha transparent. you can fix it in unity by making alpha = transparency

[jagged stone]

i forgot how to make theses normal😔

[somber sequoia]

what are they?

[jagged stone]

avatars

they downloaded like that

i know your supposed to extract them but i forgot how

[somber sequoia]

you clipped the image so it's impossible to tell what format those are

one seems to be a .unitypackage so import that into Unity

[jagged stone]

mb yeah their .unitypackage

so i dont need to extract them or anything ?

[somber sequoia]

nope, they go right into unity.

assets ->import -> custom package, something like that

(I don't have it open)

[jagged stone]

o okay thank you!

[limpid sphinx]

So I just got done optimizing and tweaking my Vroid model in Blender, but before I am anxious about PhysBones and having to redo all the work in Unity because my model doesnt support what I wanna do with it

Basically I wanna add physbones to the ears, which don't have any bones in the model yet and all the phys bone tutorials I find online are on stuff like hair and are assuming they already have bones

What do I need to consider when adding new bones in Blender? Has anyone here done something like this before?

[somber sequoia]

it's not much more complicated than: add bones where you want them, weight paint mesh to the bones so it moves like you want it to, setup physbones in Unity.

[limpid sphinx]

Hmm... I am struggling a bit with the hair since it's part of the head mesh instead of a seperate vertex group on a Vroid, makes it tough to select only the ears as the parent to the bones

[timber wharf]

use L - shift+h or temporarily separate (p?) to a diff mesh

[somber sequoia]

yeah, separate parts or hide them

[sudden hornet]

could someone please help me get this window and what is it?

[somber meadow]

Drag this bar up

you can drag your avatar's root object from the hierarchy into the preview window and it'll also use your avatar in there

[sudden hornet]

thank you

[pine panther]

Anybody here have the ability to upload avatars? I have a file, and these instructions, but i dont have a PC

[somber sequoia]

got a mac?

[somber sequoia]

See this for the reasons this isn't a good idea: #avatar-help message

[pine panther]

thank you. I've asked a trusted friend instead

[brave viper]

hey so I'm trying to fit some clothes onto an avatar and the clothes have multiple meshes (is that what they're called?)

is there a way to work with multiple meshes at once when sculpting?

[somber sequoia]

you could just join them together.

you can split them apart again later

[brave viper]

is that easy to do?

[somber sequoia]

join: select multiple objects, ctrl+j

to split you'd have to edit it, then select parts you want split off and hit 'p'

definitely learn blender basics

[brave viper]

i have a light gist of it from a tutorial about a donut

idk where to go from there

[somber sequoia]

the donut tutorial is pretty good

[sharp kayak]

idk if this is the right channel to ask this in but i will anyway, for whatever reason everytime i make an atlas for this model it turns black or white, and when i checked the file sizes in the matcombiner area, it's 32 x 32 (the textures are 4k)

[left gull]

make sure that friend also legally owns the model as file sharing generally isnt allowed and the the creator could revoke your ownership and make a DMCA claim to your account over it

[brave viper]

do you have suggestions on where to go after the donut tutorial? I noticed that it just covers meshes and nothing about bones, armatues, blendshapes, etc that entail a VRC model

or is each aspect of those fairly standalone and I can learn any of them in any order

[somber sequoia]

maybe Rainhet's tutorials? I'm not sure, I didn't use any of these.

[brave viper]

ok, thankies~

[limpid sphinx]

So I am trying to add the bones to my model VRoid model's ears rn, figured out it'll probably be easier to just restart to before all the CATS plugin fixes that merge all the meshes and things so I have the face and hair meshes nicely seperated and stuff

I am a little paranoid now though, that if I add the bones now and then do the CATS fixes it'll undo all my work

has anyone done this specifically before and has some advice??

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure what you're going to use cats for?

but it shouldn't remove bones you're adding, iirc it'll just merge stuff

[limpid sphinx]

All the VRoid to VRchat tutorials include CATs for optimization and stuff

[somber sequoia]

oh, vroid

I'd probably do all that part first, then never run it again

[limpid sphinx]

Earlier I tried adding the bones but it was impossible to select just the ears on the super-merged mesh

[somber sequoia]

eh, it's not, just might be a bit of effort

[limpid sphinx]

yeah probably, but I'm not THAT well versed with blender yet

[foggy horizon]

anyone know how to fix thixs?

[sly lodge]

do you have VRCFury installed?

[foggy horizon]

no i used tooo

[foggy horizon]

before i did not anymore

[sly lodge]

You need to have it installed for this avatar

it's a dependency

[foggy horizon]

no not anymore i dont

[foggy horizon]

i dont use any assets that use fury anymore

[sly lodge]

You can try remove the playable layers then, or at least see if it solves the issue

[foggy horizon]

other than fx and gesture its gogo locos playables

[somber meadow]

are there any issues actually stemming from these errors

[sly lodge]

but gogo loco uses vrcfury too

[foggy horizon]

nope i manually installed it

[sly lodge]

ah, alright

[inland seal]

uhh

[foggy horizon]

i cant upload it

it just loops the same parts over and over

[quasi folio]

Not sure where to ask, but are there any basic firing gun particle prefabs I can get working on quest?

[foggy horizon]

i have dm me

[quasi folio]

Alr

[somber meadow]

Is there any other error that doesn't talk about controllers?

[foggy horizon]

this s it

[quasi folio]

I have dm’ed thee

[somber meadow]

You have another unity project inside your assets folder

Assets/! a' new yokai/Vexs Yokai is a Unity Project folder

[foggy horizon]

thats the folder with the avi

[somber meadow]

you shouldn't have a Packages folder in there

screenshot the internals of that folder

[somber meadow]

delete that packages completely

You most likely setup this avatar wrong, did this avatar come in a UnityPackage?

[foggy horizon]

nope

[somber meadow]

then was it a zip file?

this looks like the creator made a VCC backup and sent this

[foggy horizon]

yes

[somber meadow]

you should extract that folder from the zip and import it into vcc instead

[foggy horizon]

when i asked him to restore the avi uploadable on install i didnt know hed add all of that Xd

lol

it has been uploading before

[fiery void]

hello fellas, can someone send me link to virtual limb discord?

[ancient herald]

so i had recently purchased an avi with gonso and when i enter the code to unlock it it says no vpn's allowed when i don't even have one, can anyone help?

[arctic ginkgo]

first mistake was purchasing an avi with gonso 😔

[ancient herald]

right lmaooo

[arctic ginkgo]

what's the point of buying an avi if you can't have the files? the most fun is getting to personalize it

[ancient herald]

fr i love the avi as is tho it's soul the sun by lazminq

[arctic ginkgo]

yeahh but i don't like that anti-consumerist stuff

idc how good the avi is i'm never buying one that uses gonso or lemon uploader or anything like that

[ancient herald]

for one of my first avi's i bought i'm having a "great" timeeeeeee

[ancient herald]

also Black Dresses is a W Band

[arctic ginkgo]

hell yeah i was jamming out just now to sharp halo

[sharp kayak]

please for the love of anything does ANYONE know how to fix this? (this texture is supposed to be 4k)

[jagged stone]

i added the zippo cig to my vrc avatar how do i lower the bits

could someone help me

[ornate stump]

Uncheck sync parameter for something you don't really need in the parameter file.

[jagged stone]

im gonna be honest i dont really know whats important or not

i know unity basics and such but this im clueless

[ornate stump]

You might have to figure out yourself what you don't need since it's your avatar.

[jagged stone]

so i jst find a toggle i dont want and delete it

im confused idk how to fix this

[ornate stump]

Just make the parameter unsync would be enough

[jagged stone]

what does that mean im sorry

[ornate stump]

Look in the parameter file of the avatar.

[jagged stone]

where would i find that ive never touched parameters before im sorry

[ornate stump]

Look in avatar descriptor component and find expression parameter slot.

[jagged stone]

i found it

[raw saddle]

check what the material looks like in the Shading tab, if it's anything more complex than like 3 nodes then that's probably the problem

[jagged stone]

tysm!!

[raw saddle]

look up "vrchat memoryoptimizer", it lets you reuse some of the bits by switching what they mean every so often (so syncing takes more time but less space)

[dusk pulsar]

Or re-do some layers and change parameters from float to bool. Float & Int takes 8 bits, bool - 1 bit

Also, you can do blendtrees for Dissolve / UV Tile Discard stuff which saves even more space in parameters

[sharp kayak]

its only 3 nodes on every mat, thats the weird part

[dusky badger]

Guys, what's a psd file? Cause I bought the Catnap and Dogday stylized avatars and they came with psd texture files

[ornate stump]

It's a file for photoshop. You could also look in google and it will be the first result.

[dusky badger]

Is it required for the avatar to be uploaded?

[ornate stump]

Maybe. Depends on whether the avatar is using it or not. It's usually provided as source texture file for editing rather than flatten png file.

[dusky badger]

Thanks

I'm trying to get a friend to upload my Avis since IDK how

[left gull]

make sure that friend legally owns the model (as in they also have it purchased) or the creator could revoke your ownership without refund and make a DMCA claim to your account

unless the model/creators TOU specifically say that they dont care if you share the files

[dusky badger]

Ok

[sturdy grotto]

can someone tell me how i make a Expression menue entry without text? i just want to have the symbol shown but no text in the field

[ornate stump]

Just leave the menu name empty?

[sturdy grotto]

not working in my case. a auto generated menue with vrc fury (have to use this sadly in this case)

[ornate stump]

What about using space character?

[sturdy grotto]

it takes the name of the object in hirachy than

[buoyant zodiac]

What yall recommend me doing 😭

[left gull]

you could just make the menu manually if vrcfury requires a name in the field

[sturdy grotto]

i know. it is kinda to much work for exactly this case what will be done. i asked on their support :) thanks anyways

[somber sequoia]

"limbs"

[fiery void]

yep, but stil..

[somber sequoia]

still what?

[fiery void]

still need this link xD

[somber sequoia]

put that after the usual domain name in the URL

[fiery void]

like discord . gg/VirtualLimbs?

[somber sequoia]

that's not what I said

[fiery void]

...

idk what u mean by that anyway

[somber sequoia]

I DM'd you, kinda figured it was really obvious.

[young mango]

Hello!, i would like to know if there is a currently an issue that might cause the vrcsdk to say that my avatar has more materials than it actually does, for example the avi has 14 mats, but the sdk says 22, and ive already checked in blender and made sure in unity that it only has 14

[somber sequoia]

got any particle systems?

[inland seal]

Uh...

[young mango]

lol, ty that was it

[somber sequoia]

yep, gets me every time 🙂

[ornate stump]

You might have to explain what you did.

[inland seal]

I just exported a blender file where I changed couple things

This is the settings

[ornate stump]

If the model is unpacked in the scene then that would also causes more problem. This problem is one of unpacking effect.

[somber sequoia]

So this is just a prop, right? Because you're not exporting an armature.

[inland seal]

Uh

[somber sequoia]

re: unpacking, they meant in Unity, not Blender

[inland seal]

a

[ornate stump]

I mean unpacked in unity scene.

[inland seal]

It is unpacked

[somber sequoia]

but why?

[inland seal]

Because I unpack all of them?

[somber sequoia]

again, why?

[inland seal]

Cuz it worked before

Only this model complains

[somber sequoia]

I guess you never update them in Blender

[inland seal]

I never do

But this one I did

so how I fix the error?

[somber sequoia]

you can't update by overwriting the .fbx if you've unpacked it

[inland seal]

mmmm

Alr

Let me try same thing but without unpacking

[inland seal]

Is that a bad thing

[ornate stump]

It's actually a sideeffect of another problem. But unpacking make the other problem hidden.

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what this is without any context at all

[inland seal]

Also the error still stays

Even if I dont unpack

[ornate stump]

Did you test the model in pose mode?

[inland seal]

uh, no

Where even is it

[gloomy flint]

I'm trying to do an offline test for an avatar but when I select it and try to turn into it, its stuck in Unpacking, but I can see the model if I view the avatar in my menu

[ornate stump]

Also make sure that the prefab is fbx prefab, not original prefab, see the object icon whether it's a solid blue cube or not.

[inland seal]

This?

[ornate stump]

That's original prefab so it doesn't have data link to the fbx file.

[inland seal]

Is it a bad thing?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[inland seal]

I dont have any other prefabs

Thats the only one

[ornate stump]

The fbx file itself is also a prefab.

That's why it's called fbx prefab.

[inland seal]

uhh

Doesnt work

[ornate stump]

Might have to explain whay you currently have.

[inland seal]

I will just give up

[ornate stump]

ok

[sharp kayak]

this is what it looks like, i have litearlly 0 clue why it's broke all the sudden

[inland seal]

I fixed it ;D

I was a dumbass and forgot to add "Other"

[raven ridge]

I need some help, bought an avatar asset that comes in with prebuilt expressions menu and parameters. The issue I’m having is I don’t know how to add these parameters and menus to the avi

[dark jay]

Can someone help me with the bending issue

[left gull]

yikes that's alot of bones, its likely a weightpaint issue if you're talking about your mesh clipping when bending bones

go through all the bones that're connected to those two meshes and mess around with the weights for both

[somber sequoia]

it's not really clear what bending issue we're talking about here

[left gull]

im guessing its the orange-y parts in the 2nd and 3rd image but the pic in first looks like its just not sculpted to the body correctly

[somber sequoia]

yeah, kitbash maybe

[placid beacon]

Is there any way to get the default vrchat hand gesture animations?

I want to only change one of the gestures but that would require me to remake all of those animations...

[raven orbit]

there is a folder in the SDK files labeled samples with some of the default animations/controllers

[placid beacon]

They really are

Thank you!

[naive crest]

Hello everyone I wanted to put this joggers more baggy on blender but ! I don’t know how to do it ( I know how blender work but I don’t know how to do 😅) and sorry if I explain bad thanks.

Right now I edit it put that another fbx i did. There is a way for stay on the same one or not ?

[wooden cairn]

Is there any way to define different properties (such as collider size) for different sections of one physbone chain?

[obsidian current]

(yes) when you are setting collider size click the little C next to it i think

a graph will show up

you can also do this with any of the physbone properties

[cursive gorge]

So i played a world with my friend that had a girls frontline avi and the gun that was attached to his avi actually dealt damage to me and killed me, how does that work?

[heavy zephyr]

You can set your particles to collide with things in their collision module. In that same module you can set them to "Send collision messages" or similar. This will essentially let a world know that stuff has been hit, some worlds make use of that data to do PvP

[cursive gorge]

ohhh

i see

thanks!

[heavy zephyr]

Always happy to help 🫡

[sharp steppe]

I have the same issue. With the beta VRC.

(also when it did show, the contacts were are messed up. which is what I was trying to figure out.)

[amber gull]

can someone help me how to export the project for a file of an avatar i own please?

[amber gull]

i want it to be like this so i can send it to someone

[somber sequoia]

click on something in your hierarchy, then in the menu, Assets -> Export Package. Select whatever items you want.

ah I guess you don't even have to click a thing

"the menu" being the top one, not the popup

[amber gull]

you are a legend

thank you so much

[somber sequoia]

nah, I'm just someone who's read the docs 🙂

[amber gull]

you are a lifesaver

[inland seal]

I'm trying to export a Material being "Standart Lite" and not "Standart". Because if I set from "Standart" to "Standart Lite" it makes my whole mesh being black and I don't want that. Is there any way to prevent it from happening using blender or any other thing?

[somber sequoia]

Possibly your mesh has vertex colors, those mobile shaders multiply that color to the final color. You can remove them in Blender, if present.

[inland seal]

Where I find them

[somber sequoia]

in Blender 4.2 it's Color Attributes, under vertex groups and shape keys.

[inland seal]

uhh

Still cant find it

[somber sequoia]

do you know where vertex groups and shape keys are?

[inland seal]

na

[somber sequoia]

may I recommend basic blender tutorials?
Click on a mesh object, then in the properties area (by default, bottom right), click the green triangle thingy, it's in there.

[inland seal]

Theres none

[somber sequoia]

then there are no vertex colors on that mesh object

[inland seal]

Nvm

There is one

Do I need to delete it?

[somber sequoia]

Unless you're using it for something, yes.

[inland seal]

Holy

IT worked

THHX

:D

[honest violet]

i wanna test the audiolink on my avatar with a youtube video how do i achieve this in unity?

[somber sequoia]

The audiolink docs explain, but basically there's a youtube player in the prefab you can add to your scene for testing.

in menu, Tools -> AudioLink -> add prefab to scene

[left gull]

What do these warnings mean? ive been trying to setup a toggle and this is the only part im guessing is causing the issue with it not working

[honest violet]

ive done that but it dont work

[fair rock]

anyone have any good anime lightning prefabs or such

[sudden merlin]

Anyone notice how in 3.7.3 the new constraints only work in play mode? Kinda difficult to experiment with them if I can only demo them during runtime

[somber meadow]

There's been a bunch of issues stemming from 3.7.3 with Physbones/VRC Constraints

[sudden merlin]

Just in the editor or on upload too? If so im bouta go back to 3.7.2

[somber meadow]

it's forced in the game client since they have the same change

[sudden merlin]

damn

is that why I've been noticing more physbone jitter in worlds with not great float precision? (lots of world creators put their stuff far from the world origin for some reason)

[strong pulsar]

Heey is there a avatar creator or someone who can help me later, i want to remove a face gesture from my avatar. But idk how to do it( dm me)

[gloomy flint]

im gonna lose my mind

[split crown]

hey, im having an issue with an avis gestures. I have the gestures layer present in the playable layers, but, after uploading it, it is running default gestures. this is the gesture layer

[gloomy flint]

oh my god i just saw what it is im gonna mclose it

[split crown]

your shader isnt in vrchat mobile

make sure its in here

[gloomy flint]

i only just saw that mobile/ isn't the mobile folder and it is infact in the vrchat/ folder im gonna cry

[split crown]

its all good, sadly they dont make it easy to figure out lol

[gloomy flint]

no matter what i do though i cant reduce the avatar size, I even went in and decimated tris in the fbx/blender file and thats whats really killing me

ive crunched textures, removed animations, decimated tris, everything, this hasnt moved since when i first opened the project.

is satan infiltrating my files and making this avatar too big like come on i just want to upload the quest version :(

[split crown]

thats i can help with

dm if ya want

[somber sequoia]

you're testing in play mode, right? Last time I tried this in Windows it worked... never does for me in linux though.

[somber sequoia]

did you try to build again though? It says "the most recent build", it may not be what's currently there in the project

[honest violet]

yeah im in play mode whilst testing and i get no audio

[somber sequoia]

annoying.

[somber meadow]

Is there any errors in the console?

[somber sequoia]

still doesn't work at all on Linux for me, I just tried. Not the youtube one, that's know to not work.

[somber meadow]

I know yt-dlp had to change their settings to "mweb" since Youtube implemented a new Javascript challenge for the "web_creator" client

[green heron]

Hey does anyone know how to make another set of arms be able to be seen on quest with the avi constraints?

[honest violet]

this is what i get when i enter play mode

[somber sequoia]

Yes, got a question?

[green heron]

:o?

[sharp crater]

anyone know how to make avatar audio not crackle in some worlds

[green heron]

i just asked my question in that sentence yeah!

[somber sequoia]

oh I guess I answered it then. Yes 🙂

[somber meadow]

That's related to VRC contacts, so unfortunately no hope in that. I wonder if you can manually update the yt-dlp that's in that Unity script

you're clicking "play" in that component, right?

[green heron]

So some people have models with extra arms and I was asking how people got the avatar constraints to work With quest. do you know how?

[somber sequoia]

do you get audio if you put an audio clip into the other object?

[somber sequoia]

Yes, I know how.

[green heron]

Could you share with me please?

[somber sequoia]

VRC Rotation Constraints work on quest, use one on each bone to copy the main arm's rotation

[honest violet]

yes im clicking play in the component and nothing happens

[green heron]

oh i didn't know they updated it for quest too

[honest violet]

and yes if i put an mp3 file in the other object i get sound

[somber sequoia]

okay, good to confirm that - I still don't.

[craggy forge]

Hey Im having a problem with physbones that they wont work when they are configured to the root transforms, Ive tried importing new physbones from the unity prefabs for the model and they only work on the other model itself. its not like its misconfigured as it only broke recently; also the reason why i wont move my textures and toggles over to the unity package is because I modified the fbx. the model is the NKD protogen
Thanks if anyone decides to help me out here

[quasi crypt]

i dont know if vr chat update broke the jaw to the avatar i uploaded cuz i check on the config for the avatar the jaw is not highlighted green and the avaar havent hadthis problem before i hope what ever broke the avatar for vr chat would be fix soon

maybe it open beta that made t look like this

[somber meadow]

compare between the open beta, and the latest non-beta build. If there's a difference, feel free to make a canny post to report this issue

[quasi crypt]

okay how do i do that

so they know that needs to be fixed

[somber meadow]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/open-beta

[quasi crypt]

thank you

[worldly whale]

hey question, i added something to my avatar and i tested the toggles in play mode in unity but when i upload it to vrc the toggles dont work at all. any ideas?

[somber sequoia]

without seeing details about how you've set that up, there's not really much we could say

[worldly whale]

its the tron disk thing that i showed yall last time

i managed to get all the toggles to work

but only in unity

i can send more details i just need to know what more to send

[craggy forge]

Can someone help here?

[somber sequoia]

maybe show a screenshot of the physbones? Also really nothing of use to go on here

[somber sequoia]

I can see the scaling issue, but it's not really relevant. So when you say "they won't work" what does that actually mean?

[craggy forge]

they are set up on the avatar and configured but when i run it on gesture manager or on an offline build on vrc they dont work

[somber sequoia]

again, "don't work" - they don't move at all when you move the avatar? Or is it collision doesn't work? Please be specific.

[craggy forge]

they do not move at all

[somber sequoia]

ok the physbone component here looks quite reasonable. Have you made sure that rotating the bones in the scene view not in play mode actually moves the mesh around?

[craggy forge]

with the rotate tool in unity?

[somber sequoia]

sure

confirm the bones move the mesh as you expect

[craggy forge]

this is the tool im using, it does not move when i rotate it

[somber sequoia]

hmmm perhaps the mesh is not properly weight painted to the bones then

[craggy forge]

It was working before though

they stopped working when i added children to my armature and an asset, not sure which one messed it up tho

[supple needle]

Does anyone know why the asset is so large; how to scale it down and why it’s also not in the middle ? The armature is there, but the asset itself isn’t in the middle

[somber sequoia]

is that unity or blender?

[supple needle]

Blender

[somber sequoia]

depends on where its origin is. You could set the origin to geometry then move it to 0,0,0

[supple needle]

How do I do that ? I’m not quite familiar with blender

[somber sequoia]

first figure out where it is

you could just move it to the origin then apply transforms

the "item" tab of the popup on the right that toggles when you hit 'n' is where you look

(do some basic Blender tutorials, it often helps to see these things visually)

[supple needle]

I got the popup. I have the location, rotation and scale

[somber sequoia]

location + rotation ought to be 0, scale ought to be 1. If not, then that's why it's not "in the middle"

[supple needle]

That all worked. Thanks a bunch

[somber sequoia]

ah nice 🙂

[sharp kayak]

is there a way to make poiyomi look less matte? i have a base texture, metallic texture, and normal texture turned on

[somber sequoia]

which rendering mode are you using?

[sharp kayak]

where do i check that? sorry im a little slow

[somber sequoia]

https://www.poiyomi.com/shading/main#lighting-type

possibly that's set to Toon

[sharp kayak]

it's currently set on cloth

[oak bone]

It's probably your roughness map keeping the brown part of the material matte

[sharp kayak]

this is how i would roughly want it to look, this is using just the standard shader

[sharp kayak]

i only got a metallic map, no rougness

[oak bone]

Then change your roughness in the poiyomi shader

It's a slider

[sharp kayak]

am i slow or do i just not see it

actually, i think i found a solution

[somber sequoia]

Roughness and Metallic is under reflection & specular

[vital wave]

can someone help me please

i i dont know how to fix it

[ornate stump]

Not a slightest idea of what you're showing.

[split cairn]

tried setting up the VCC and it says i don't have unity, despite having it

what's the problem?

[ornate stump]

You can skip that part and manually assign unity in vcc settings.

[split cairn]

oh okay, let me try that

[vital wave]

its all pixaly

im on pc vr

[left gull]

might be your imposter settings?

[vital wave]

what is that?

[ornate stump]

Its imposter. Which mean that avatar is blocked by your settings.

[ornate stump]

Imposter is an avatar stand in model when the real avatar is being blocked.

[vital wave]

nope i just changed my avatar and its still happening

[split cairn]

I got this back

[ornate stump]

Just choose install manually and setup the unity path in settings.

[ornate stump]

Is it your own avatar?

[vital wave]

how can i tell?

[split cairn]

Are you currently wearing the avatar in the picture?

[ornate stump]

Are you looking at a mirror?

[vital wave]

?

[vital wave]

yes

[ornate stump]

That is not a mirror.

[ornate stump]

I'm going to ask again, are you looking at another player in this image?

[vital wave]

no

[ornate stump]

Is this one fine or not?

The world is too dark to distinguish the details.

[vital wave]

this better?

[ornate stump]

I see no issue. What is the problem again?

[lapis helm]

Can anyone tell me what any of this means and how to possibly fix it? I'm still new to unity

[vital wave]

this

every avatar i see is like that

al pixelated

[split cairn]

Do I need any workloads?

[ornate stump]

You are looking at other players and your settings is blocking other player avatars.

[ornate stump]

You don't even have to install visual studio.

[split cairn]

It put me there for some reason

[ornate stump]

Just uncheck visual studio when preparing the installation.

[vital wave]

i dont know what that is

[wraith crag]

Sorry to interrupt: quick question.

is there a way to guarentee storing my selected anchor override on unitypackage export? when testing my avatar for reimport and upload, (as if i were buying the avatar to upload myself), thry's tools indicates that the anchor override is missing (i know it helps vrc handle shading).

i set this in my main file I exported from, but it gets lost on reimport/upload.

any help is appreciated 🙂

[ornate stump]

Look in the in game settings menu and see whether avatar max size and max performance rate is set to.

[vital wave]

this?

[split cairn]

Okay I think I found the problem, it says I don’t even have a UnityEditor.exe

[ornate stump]

Yes. Max dl size zero effectively means do not load anything.

So you got only fallback avatar from other people.

[vital wave]

so what should i set it to?

[ornate stump]

Default value is 200.

[vital wave]

ok

[ornate stump]

Uncompressed size is 500

[split cairn]

How could I possibly not even have a unity.exe file?

[vital wave]

thank you sooooo much

[ornate stump]

Have you assign path to the unityeditor.exe in vcc settings?

[split cairn]

I only have the UnityHubSetup.exe

[wraith crag]

(Im happy to wait til you're all set, but I'd at least like to know if my message was seen :D)

[ornate stump]

Seen. And I have no solution for you.

[wraith crag]

👍 Preciated. I'll keep researching/asking around!

[split cairn]

ive already set up the unity hub

[ornate stump]

If you installed unity editor before unity hub, you might as well have to remove unity editor you installed, and reinstall again via unity hub link.

Because if you had installed before, you installed a standalone editor which isn't managed by unity hub.

[wraith crag]

Ok i tried reimporting a fresh export and it worked this time. i think I was pulling the anchor from the wrong spot, eg loading from scene search instead of just dragging and dropping my chosen bone to the field. so its working now, hope this helps anyone in the future 🙂

[split cairn]

I got the editor through the hub

I’m getting an HTTP request error

[somber sequoia]

if you're on the open beta, probably go back to the main version, the beta seems to be doing this for some people

[ornate stump]

Then you should be able to find the UnityEditor.exe from the folder installed into.

[sharp kayak]

what do colliders do exactly? i see them around from time to time but i have no idea what they are used for

[winter edge]

Is there an easy way to make an object follow your avatar's max height?

Basically I have minecraft name tag that floats above my head.

How can I make it follow my head's height with the same gap?

[split cairn]

That’s what you’d expect right? Is there a way to just start this all over again?

[ornate stump]

No starting over.

[split cairn]

Shit

Well that sucks

I think I see some of the problem, is there a way to change the HTTP?

I accidentally put UnityHubSetup.exe instead of the editor

[ornate stump]

Couldn't you just change it back?

[gentle goblet]

So I went to add fishnets to my avi and the fbx shows it as like a full texture, I was wondering if there was anything special I had to do with fishnets, or is it just add the image texture as the texture provided and in unity it will just fix itself?

[split cairn]

I thought I did but I keep getting an error message

[ornate stump]

When the message show up? Take screenshot.

[ornate stump]

It just needs material in unity.

[somber sequoia]

Fishnets probably need transparency, set the shader mode to cutout

(not available on quest)

[split cairn]

Had to blur some junk but here

I was able to open a project file so maybe it’s fine?

[ornate stump]

Don't you have access to the Settings button to the left?

[split cairn]

There’s this

I’m assuming it’s fine cause after I opened a project I got no error messages afterwards

Sorry I’m just being careful cause I don’t want to be deep into a project and then a problem pops up

[ornate stump]

Yes it should be fine.

[split cairn]

Okay, I’ll try importing a pack

[gentle goblet]

So in blender all I should do is make sure it fits properly and is weight painted etc?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[split cairn]

I might be missing some shader packs, let me go find them

[runic bolt]

hmmm. Editor keeps dying when going into play mode.

[./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/AvatarDynamicsSetup.cs line 66]

NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at VRC.Dynamics.ContactManager.HandleDynamicsFrameComplete () [0x0004e] in <f48fe9a38f6e48e8b7b4eef7982de045>:0 
  at (wrapper delegate-invoke) <Module>.invoke_void()
  at VRC.Dynamics.VRCAvatarDynamicsScheduler.FinalizeJob (System.Boolean force) [0x0002c] in <f48fe9a38f6e48e8b7b4eef7982de045>:0 
  at VRC.Dynamics.PhysBoneManager.LateUpdate () [0x00000] in <f48fe9a38f6e48e8b7b4eef7982de045>:0 

Crash!!!

[split cairn]

Arktoon sound familiar?

[ornate stump]

It's an old shader and I'm not sure if it's available to download anymore.

[split cairn]

Of course lol

[runic bolt]

there's archives, but you should user a modern shader

[split cairn]

I’m seeing some purple

That usually means something is missing right?

[ornate stump]

Shader missng.

[split cairn]

Also, you were right about it being arktoon, found a link in a readme file

[ornate stump]

And you're in prefab editing mode which you won't be able to start build process. You have to use regular scene to edit avatar.

[split cairn]

So how do I fix that?

[ornate stump]

Exit from prefab editing mode.

[shrewd stirrup]

How do i do randomized audio for toggles from a specific selection of audios

this would really help rn

[split cairn]

How would I do that? Or where is that on the screen?

Sorry, I know this is a pain

[dark jay]

i kinda wanna do a outfit toggle wheel got any tutorials

[ornate stump]

Click "Scenes" button under the Scene tab.

[split cairn]

This screen I assume?

[ornate stump]

Yes. And drag avatar prefab into the scene.

[split cairn]

It appears really small when I do

[ornate stump]

Because it zoomed out.

[split cairn]

Sorry I’m just new to this all round

[ornate stump]

Search google for unity scene navigation.

[split cairn]

Okay so now, how would I start with the editing process?

[ornate stump]

It's doing anything you want.

[split cairn]

Sorry a bit too broad, I mean like changing colors, etc.

[ornate stump]

Color is mostly editing texture file.

[split cairn]

Okay, I think I might be able to handle it from here, I’ll do more research. Thank you so much for the help

[bitter crown]

me too. this the right canny post for this? https://feedback.vrchat.com/open-beta/p/jaw-breaking-for-open-beta

[quasi crypt]

yeah i sent a post about it hoping they fix it in the future

[coral haven]

The model cannot be uploaded, how to deal with this error?

[raven orbit]

might be related to these: https://ask.vrchat.com/t/i-cant-upload-the-avatar-in-unity-2022/25876 https://ask.vrchat.com/t/unable-to-upload-avatar-in-unity-version-2022-3-6f1/22969/4

[coral haven]

I've made sure that the file path is in English or numeric and that the plugin is not imported, only the model and shader

But I still can't upload it

[grim condor]

Is there any way to subtract 1 from an integer's value in the animator, like with a parameter driver?

[ornate stump]

Just put negative number in the parameter driver.

[grim condor]

i did and its still adding

like this, right?

[half orbit]

Someone please please please i can't figure this out😭 I have multiple toggles and (for example i click one and it toggles all expressions and if i click the other one it doesn't work at all) And i have no clue what I'm doing wrong. I've tried making new toggles, new animations but I don't know what's wrong with it.

I'm also new to avatar making, so it may be that I'm doing smth wrong instead of my unity or something.

[spark walrus]

I made new custom animations but when I test them in gesture manager, only 1 out of 8 work.

[cursive spade]

Are the tags when uploading avatars still useless?

[somber meadow]

They did do an update to implement them in game a while back and age verification is coming soon which will take use of it

people can choose to hide whichever tags they want in their settings right now

[cursive spade]

Ah good to know, thank you. I am shocked it took them this long hah

[somber meadow]

it's mainly due to them wanting the game on iOS

[cursive spade]

How do tags affect IOS specifically?
Is there some regulatory prerequisite for IOS apps?

[somber meadow]

stuff like sexual things are prohibited

[cursive spade]

Ah

[timber wharf]

i believe most of them make avi force hidden for peoole who are under 18 and you can also manually hide content

[cursive spade]

That is good

[timber wharf]

so they do work now

but that doesnt mean you can just slap a tag on nsfw and say its all good

[cursive spade]

Is there more that you should do beyond the tags then?

[timber wharf]

dont get reported🤷‍♂️

[cursive spade]

Oh yes of course hah

[timber wharf]

so as long as you dont make it public or show it to randoms theres noone to catch you

[cursive spade]

VrChat could benefit from a bit more public decency-

[somber meadow]

Pretty sure they backed out of the hiding "Sexually suggestive" tags based on the DOB you put when signing up cause people complain about not seeing avatars

They're putting some sort of ID verification in to try to compensate with it

[timber wharf]

i mean, why

they put verification so people dont cheat their dob but if someone already entered proper one why back out. i only heard that extreme horror tag was basically disabled

[somber meadow]

the sexually suggestive tag was put on almost everything you saw in game

[timber wharf]

well, yes, sounds fair

like okay, they actually implement verification, what will change? i dont get it

[twin lagoon]

Would this kinda hair be easier to make on blender?

[austere bay]

I'm learning how to make renders of my avatars atm. How do I remove the noise? there seems to be a lot. You can see it really bad around the scaffolding. I'm rendering in cycles rn. It looks fine in eevee

this is how it looks in eevee. I'm trying to get cycles to look like this

ignore the yellow and black lines :))

[somber meadow]

What GPU do you have

and what Blender version are you using

[austere bay]

2070 super and 2.92.0

I had cycles set to use my cpu though, would setting it to my gpu help?

I honestly thought my gpu might not be able to render it very well since it's a bit old </3

[somber meadow]

I'd upgrade to blender 4.2

there's plenty of upgrades for cycles including cycles x which improves render times and includes better denoisers

[austere bay]

I'd rather not if I can avoid it since I have some addons I use that aren't supported anymore </3

[somber meadow]

which addons

[austere bay]

I mainly use cats and some stuff to just make things work smoother like applying shapekeys to modifiers and stuff

[somber meadow]

https://github.com/teamneoneko/Cats-Blender-Plugin-Unofficial-/releases/tag/4.2.1.4

[austere bay]

:O

you're a gem <3

I'll finish this render then I might have a look at switching

[somber meadow]

because I primarily don't know if 2.92 has denoisers

I think there's an early version of OptiX which you can enable in the preferences, but it's best to upgrade anyway. Cycles X makes rendering with cycles insanely faster

and rendering kernels don't take ages to compile if you're doing gpu rendering

[cursive spade]

Yes, this wouldn't be too hard for someone who knows Blender. The hair looks like it's one piece, which is easier than hair that is made up of many pieces and shapes

[arctic ginkgo]

you can have multiple installs of blender if this helps

also i'm pretty sure blender has had denoising for cycles for a long time, i remember learning about it in the rendering section of the donut tutorial when i was first learning blender

i haven't touched much with rendering (at least in cycles) since then though

i mostly do cartoon stuff now, so eevee is just better for my style

[twin lagoon]

Yea gonna be one piece made out of balls i suppose

[austere bay]

yeah I have 4.2.3 on steam for none vrchat stuff

[rain quiver]

i need help with my game

i keep seeing people really pixelated

[left gull]

you'll probably have to mess with your settings imposter ranking

[austere bay]

🙏

i swapped blender version tysmm

[spark walrus]

this avatar doesnt have a hair root, how can i give it physbones without this?

[small hazel]

Hello I have a question I created a blindfold for an avatar and I would like to be able to have the hidden view when I activate it (not totally just a little)

[light charm]

how come i keep crashing whenever i change into one specific avatar? it never had this issue before, it just started today
whenever i click on it, my game crashes immediately, and i have no clue why, it's not unoptimized at all, and i haven't updated it in a long time, i just don't know what's wrong

[light charm]

all i remember was that i wore it yesterday before i had to get off vrchat, and when i closed vrchat my pc bluescreened

[left gull]

the issue might be the fact that you havent updated it in a long time (depending on how long its actually been)

and if you're 100% that its the model causing these crashes you could make a support ticket with the avatar ID at https://vrch.at/support to see if they can figure out the issue with the avatar if doing a re-upload isnt possible as it could be a bug

[light charm]

i uploaded it a few days ago

[light charm]

yeah i've tried updating the avatar just now, + uploading it under a new avatar id, i'll test both of those out once i get back on vrchat

the problem seems to have been fixed. i updated the avatar, and now it's working.

[split cairn]

Yesterday I had an avatar imported in unity but a specific shader was missing, so I went back found the shader and put it in to unity. It fixed the missing textures but now the face has lost all textures

What’s going on there?

The shader is Arktoon btw if that helps

[ornate stump]

What does lost all texture actually mean?

[split cairn]

The face, eyes, and the previously purple assets are now white

[ornate stump]

The shader itself probably has problems.

[split cairn]

I think I read something like that in the archive post that had the shader. Something about using the old shader and updating to a new shader?

[ornate stump]

Changing shader that's what it should be.

[split cairn]

Yeah that

How would I do that?

[ornate stump]

Inspect material and change shader.

[split cairn]

What section would that be under?

[ornate stump]

What section you're refering to?

[split cairn]

To inspect material

[ornate stump]

Inspecting means selecting an object and look in inspector panel.

[split cairn]

Oh I see

So for some reason when I installed the Arktoon shader, it got rid of the material’s designs

[ornate stump]

Because shader error will show material as solid white.

[split cairn]

Okay so when I put a new version of the model, it kinda went back to the original purple