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[spark walrus]

it is stand up but wiht crouich animation

that's what im telling u

[somber sequoia]

still not happening here

[ornate stump]

Then why isn't playing standing up animation?

[spark walrus]

it malfunctions bc it's supposed to be 1

not 0

[somber sequoia]

I'm giving up, you just aren't listening.

[ornate stump]

Then if you make it default to 1, does it play crouching when you actually crouch?

[spark walrus]

NO

of course not

1 means standing

[ornate stump]

If animation doesn't change then your animator controller is having a problem.

[spark walrus]

it crouches when i set it to 0

bc itis wrong

i dont think so

i think it works correct

[ornate stump]

Do you think it keeping a wrong animation is actually working correctly?

[spark walrus]

when u set it to the wrong number

ofc it will show something different

[ornate stump]

If you stand, it should play standing animation. When you crouch, it should play crouch animation. Your avatar clearly didn't do that, so why do you think it's working correctl?

[spark walrus]

this is the default controller

from vrchat AV3 demo assets

it's 1

not 0

[somber sequoia]

so?

[spark walrus]

if u set it to something else u break it

1 means upright

0 crouch

[somber sequoia]

it's 0 by default in gogo loco's base controller

[spark walrus]

u guys can ask developers why they set it to 1

[ornate stump]

You drift out of the main point. Your avatar is having a problem where your avatar doesn't change animation state.

[spark walrus]

my avi has no problem

like i said, if i use 1 in parameter

[ornate stump]

You're calling avatar doesn't change standing animation is working correctly?

[subtle sigil]

Hello, my avatar fingers close when im not pressing any buttons

[spark walrus]

setting it to 0 is like telling unity to use crouch animation at start

my avi changes animations

[ornate stump]

When does it change?

[spark walrus]

i was talking about hte start animation

it changes when it's suipposed to

[ornate stump]

Obviously it is, but what and when is it actually?

[spark walrus]

dont know what u mean

put random numbers in here pls

see what happens

[ornate stump]

What you did to change animation state?

[spark walrus]

i use blend tree

[ornate stump]

That's for velocity? We are talking about Upright state.

[spark walrus]

i used a new state

with transitions back and forth

[ornate stump]

Can your avatar change animation from crouching to standing, and viceversa?

[spark walrus]

lol

u guys were wrong

pls

just admit

why do i have to repeat myself

i said avi works fine

[ornate stump]

You're avoiding answering so you didn't proof yourself correct.

[spark walrus]

yes changes stands just fine

all anims working

u have to set the parameters correctly

[ornate stump]

Alright then if it worked for you then you keep it that way.

[somber sequoia]

none of this proves anything when the rest of us can't reproduce your results.

[spark walrus]

do not set upright to 0

lol

[spark walrus]

u guy kept dodging

the point

i kept saying my avi works fine

if set to 1

the poiint i was making is it needs to be set to 1

or u start at crouched animation

[somber sequoia]

and mine work fine regardless of what I set it to, and do not crouch when that is set to 0

[spark walrus]

u both refused to accept this truth

[junior void]

i refuse as well

[spark walrus]

@somber sequoia then the file u change isnt the right one

it cannot work

[somber sequoia]

right, you immediately assume I am wrong, that's cool

[spark walrus]

mayhe it's reading from somewher else

bc i tested it

program behaved as i expected it

plus the fact the developers set the value to 1 means something

cannot be by accident

[somber sequoia]

except if it's a read-only property, it does not matter what you set it to.

[spark walrus]

read means take info

[ornate stump]

We already state the reason and you kept denying it.

[spark walrus]

not change

so it reads 'crouch anim' if set to 0

[somber sequoia]

Yes, the various states in the animation controller read this value

[spark walrus]

yes

read means get

it reads ur characvter is crouched at start or in standing mode

depending if on the value

[somber sequoia]

sighs

[spark walrus]

that's what read means

[ornate stump]

Why don't you try other value outside of 0-1 as well?

[spark walrus]

no

1 is max

[ornate stump]

Don't you want to know what it will do?

[spark walrus]

u havent trioed yet

Renfrew\

why dont u?

[ornate stump]

I do but if I said you won't believe me anyway.

[spark walrus]

dont u want to know what it wil do?

[ornate stump]

I wanted you to know.

[spark walrus]

why dont u try 100?

in parameter?

[junior void]

why dont yall just drop it

[ornate stump]

Do you know 1e10 ?

[spark walrus]

u know what ur saying now is silly right>?

[junior void]

its really getting old

[spark walrus]

if 1 is max for upright

he is literally asking me to put it higher than 1

[ornate stump]

Yes. Afraid to try?

[spark walrus]

why dont u try then?

[ornate stump]

You won't believe me anyway.

[spark walrus]

whjy dont u try 100?

[ornate stump]

I have tried lot more than that.

[spark walrus]

u wanted to know it

why dont u try/

[ornate stump]

That's a silly child talk now.

[spark walrus]

try it

and record it

@ornate stump

[ornate stump]

Ok

[spark walrus]

now

[ornate stump]

It takes time to record you know?

[spark walrus]

the sooner the better

[ornate stump]

Then why don't you also record from your side too?

[spark walrus]

u wanted to know what happens

it's ur turn

r u lost for words?

[ornate stump]

You're in a hurry?

[spark walrus]

i thiunk ur scared

set value to 0 as well, while ur at it

[hardy light]

I'm trying to attach armature to my rig the usual way but it won't attach this time

[ornate stump]

Sounds like aggravation.

[spark walrus]

ur scaread

?

[somber sequoia]

what's the usual way?

[hardy light]

Mesh + armature and then CTRL + P

[stark lava]

what version of blender should i use for vrchat?

[somber sequoia]

That just parents it, you probably still need to add an armature modifier to the mesh

[somber sequoia]

any

[spark walrus]

reading has nothing to do with the issue at all

idk why this was even mentioned

[somber sequoia]

looks good to me

(assuming that's the correct armature)

[hardy light]

Yes

How can i check if it's the correct armature?

[somber sequoia]

do you have more than one or something?

[hardy light]

Only 1

[somber sequoia]

probably it won't be the wrong one then 🙂

[hardy light]

ffffff

i clicked smth and all my apps closed

ok nvm it back noww

[hardy light]

but like

[ornate stump]

Happy now?

[hardy light]

how do i connect it

[somber sequoia]

what do you mean "connect" exactly?

[hardy light]

attach armature to model

[somber sequoia]

you did that part already, that's what the armature modifier on the mesh object is for

[spark walrus]

record it

this doesnt prove anything

need to see ingame footage

record in unity and vrchat , no cuts

prove it is the right file

[ornate stump]

What you're expecting to see?

[spark walrus]

connected to ur avatar

[somber sequoia]

I'd record this but the in-game footage shows nothing weird here, since setting that does nothing

[spark walrus]

0 sets ur avi to crocuh

crouch

it reads crouching

[somber sequoia]

It still doesn't here, no matter how many times you insist

[subtle sigil]

Hello, my avatar fingers close when im not pressing any buttons

[ornate stump]

Anyway I won't screen capture my entire screen for privacy reason. If you like to call me anything then sure, it's a freedom of speech, but keep in mind, I do not consent.

[spark walrus]

@somber sequoia

ur not testing it

right

upload video

show proof

[somber sequoia]

I don't need to test anything, I already know exactly what behavior happens here, and that it matches what the documentation says.

[spark walrus]

it doenst match any documentation

[somber sequoia]

I'm not going to entertain your childish instistence

[spark walrus]

u havent tested

anything

ive tested

enough

times

u didnt test

anything

or did it wrong

[somber sequoia]

I literally said I tested two avatars and my experience does not match yours, but does align with the documentation

[spark walrus]

show proof

[somber sequoia]

I don't need to do anymore than this

why would I lie? I'm trying to help educate others here.

[spark walrus]

wait

[hardy light]

it still isn't attached tho

[somber sequoia]

again, what do you mean 'attached' here?

[spark walrus]

duide

u avoiding proof:?

[somber sequoia]

Do you mean perhaps that the mesh isn't moving along with the bones when you rotate them? If so then are you missing weight paint?

[spark walrus]

I just showed u what setting upright to 0 does

[somber sequoia]

no I've got better things to do than argue with children, I already said I've got two avatars here in Unity with different values for this, and I used them both last night and neither was crouched. I'm done here.

[spark walrus]

that's strange

[hardy light]

when i move the armature the mesh isn't moving with it

[spark walrus]

bc cannot worknow

[somber sequoia]

Did you do any weight painting? You probably have to

[hardy light]

oh.

[spark walrus]

annyways we can talk about something different

[somber sequoia]

That's what tells a vertex to move along with a bone

[hardy light]

the mesh i'm editing used to have vertex groups

and i deleted that armature

[somber sequoia]

it's possible that the vertex groups with weight paints don't have the same names as the bones in the armature - you can simply rename them to match

[hardy light]

now when i'm in vertex group it says i'm weight painting the old armature that came with the mesh

[hardy light]

ok

[hardy light]

okay so

there are alot of armatures

1 is for IK (part of the old armature)

2 is old armature (part of the old armature 2x)

3 new armature

[somber sequoia]

unless you're going to export this as its own asset and have some method of applying in Unity, you probably just want to use the avatar's main armature

[hardy light]

i can't

cause the old armature has IK armature attached and i'm not making this avatar for vrchat

the game i'm porting it to hates IK

I can't seem to find a method of converting the IK into a normal Armature

at least without losing the mesh or breaking

[somber sequoia]

that might take a bunch of work doing bone merges, yeah

[hardy light]

any model with IK so far has not worked

i can't port it

just would not let me

[subtle sigil]

Hello, my avatar fingers close when im not pressing any buttons

[rancid zealot]

How do I update my avatar using the avatar ID?

[somber sequoia]

upload an avatar using an existing blueprint ID, that's an update

[rancid zealot]

how do I do that?

[somber sequoia]

set the blueprint Id you want in the "pipeline" component, it's on the avatar root near the Avatar Descriptor

[rancid zealot]

Youre gonna hate me

...

Where are those?

[somber sequoia]

watch basic tutorials

[rancid zealot]

Got it

[somber sequoia]

but if you click the root object, in the hierarchy, then in the inspector you should see an avatar descriptor and this pipeline component

[spark walrus]

any idea why it does this?>

something happens to the texture

[rancid zealot]

I found the first option, thx man

[icy iron]

I'm confused...

[somber sequoia]

I don't see foot bones

[icy iron]

Its the toe bones that arent assigned.

[somber sequoia]

ok but I don't see foot bones in the hierarchy, where are they?

oh I guess that's ankle here?

[icy iron]

Yeah, they're called ankle

I've used this base on a few other avatars and never experienced this problem before.

[rancid zealot]

@somber sequoia Another question, so I was here earlier about my avatar being light blue for some reason, I found out if I equip the lightmapped shader it fixes it, but as you know I cant use that shader for an android build, would you know what to do?

[junior void]

Sounds like vertex painting

[rancid zealot]

I got rid of it earlier and it didnt help

Jacket is toon shader, shorts are light mapped shader

Theyre both the same texture

[junior void]

You have sps on there. Iirc, it does something with light and shading. Might be worth trying to remove it on a dupe to see

[rancid zealot]

just gonna remove it on the main model, not like im ever gonna use it

Worst case scenario, im spamming Ctrl + Z

[icy iron]

Am I missing something here?

[rancid zealot]

Deleted SPS but the outlines are still there... strange

Deleted the outlines by hand

[timber wharf]

who tf comes up with those names, dp$ was fine since not related but sps stands for Single Pass Stereo, very important rendering feature unity/vrchat actively uses.

[rancid zealot]

hell if I know, I dont even use that stuff, its gross, but it becomes so much of a hassle to remove it from avatars I usually just leave it on them

[junior void]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rancid zealot]

Still bluer than some guy with a trombone in the '30s

idek what to do now, earlier I deleted all of the vc and still its blue

its fine on the pc build

[timber wharf]

@rancid zealot check with this shader https://gist.github.com/jhorikawa/7a236ae0b801bf2aca2d8a3038b9bf40#file-vertexcolor-shader

[rancid zealot]

My apologies but I am dead tired and kinda dumb, how do I check with the shader?

[timber wharf]

you drag shader somewhere in assets, you select custom/vertex as shader for material

[rancid zealot]

Would that work for the android build?

[timber wharf]

should end up white or black if theres really no vertex colors

[rancid zealot]

got it, ill do that now

[somber sequoia]

please don't ping me specifically for new questions anyone could answer. As others said, vertex paints, and the lightmapped shader is only for worlds.

[rancid zealot]

Ah, sorry

[rancid zealot]

This is what it looks like with the shader

[timber wharf]

so it is vertex colors

🤷‍♂️

[rancid zealot]

yeah, ill go into blender and scream as I navigate it, will most likely be back in half an hour

[timber wharf]

just go to vertex section, properties, color, delete

in blender ye

[rancid zealot]

qq

can I keep unity open for this?

[timber wharf]

tho vrc quest tools can do it for you in unity but im not sure if its up to date

[rancid zealot]

I tried it like 15 mins ago, ill try again rq

[timber wharf]

uh sure but id recommend making backup fisrt if youre not used to overwriting fbxs, things could go wrong.

[rancid zealot]

Didnt work

[rancid zealot]

Alr got a backup, bc ik I was gonna mess up somewhere

Slight issue, I can no longer find Vertex in blender

im gonna try sum rq

yeah, cant find vertex

slight issue

[somber sequoia]

select a mesh object, it's in under vertex groups and shape keys in the properties box

[rancid zealot]

So I open blender, go to the fbx page in the blender file explorer, and the fbx isnt there

[rancid zealot]

Im in the vertex box right now, color attributes is... empty

[somber sequoia]

then there aren't any for that mesh object

[rancid zealot]

I cycled through everything on the avatar

its not there for any of them

but at the same time its using these

truly a predicament

Do I delete all of the Vertex Groups as well now?

[somber sequoia]

why would you do that?

[rancid zealot]

Idk, im grabbing at straws here

[junior void]

I doubt the jacket is part of the body mesh

[rancid zealot]

Thats just an example, I went down the list and checked everything, its not there for any of them

[spark walrus]

Thank you

[fallow gulch]

Np!
Hope it helped

[subtle sigil]

my avatar fingers close without any imput

and open once i press a button

[gloomy pier]

ik this isnt a world channel but i couldnt find one

how do i fix this issue?

[copper carbon]

im trying to add reactions to my avatar and im doing what i did last time i had an issue like this but the animations are playing for a second even though its just a toggle so i cant use exit time (even though i need to) because it wont be interupted when the parameter is false
anyone know how to fix the animation time?

[severe galleon]

uhhh i need help with something 💀

my wings aren't working

like the toggle its there, the animations are attached i did everything i saw in the tutorial but it didn't work

yeah i didn't do a mistake, the animations are empty :/

like the animation called "wings hug" the wings looks the same, so seems like im the who going to animate it 💀

and i didn't try animate before 💀

[true oracle]

Hello! Need some help with this issue. When I try to upload an avatar it doesn't work. It's not the avatar it's self and it's not the unity version. I even tried it on a different PC and still nothing. Is there anyway I can get in contact with VRC directly? I think it maybe a account or server issue

[flat fulcrum]

troubleshooting steps for if an avatar is stuck on "building" in unity?

[true oracle]

Yes, is there documentation on that?

[steady summit]

Any idea why the wings import like this into Unity? In blender they look perfectly fine

[buoyant zodiac]

does anyone know how to fix this. i uploaded just a base model avi, everything is fine with the actual avatar itself, but i keep getting that error when i upload

[junior void]

This looks like backface culling. You can enable it in the viewport settings. Theres also a way to see "face orientation"

[robust vapor]

have no idea what i did, basically the toggles for pc player isn't sync for a quest user, for example a quest user would see i would have one toggle on my hand but i have a different toggle in my point of view

i dont know how to fix this since i used vrcfury for alot of the stuff i did

[junior void]

Are your parameters the same when in play mode?

[strong rock]

Hi i just finished my first avatar and it is stuck in tpose any ideas why? i think it has to do witht the unity step but idk

[stable igloo]

Im making radial wheel toggle to switch tops, ensured to do it right but when I enter playmore other tops dont show up. How can I fix this issue? (I used Av3creator)

[junior void]

Did you set it to humanoid in your import settings?

[strong rock]

yes and i had the maching bones

[junior void]

Lets see your avatar descriptor then

[strong rock]

kk ill get that

[steady summit]

would that be in Blender or Unity?

[junior void]

I assume you have an animator there as well. Do you get any warnings in the fbx rig import settings?

[junior void]

Blender. Im on mobile, else id have sent an image of it

If it is faces being the wrong direction, youd have to flip them/recalculate outside

[strong rock]

heres my animator where would i see fbx errors

[junior void]

Click your fbx in your assets (not scene)

[strong rock]

no errors here

[steady summit]

okay many thanks will try!

[junior void]

That is very odd. Usually when an avatar does not play humanoid animations, its either not set humanoid or it has fbx import warnings

[strong rock]

thanks for trying

[arctic ginkgo]

what's in your playable layers section?

[strong rock]

where do i find that

[arctic ginkgo]

in the avatar descriptor, the image i replied to

[arctic ginkgo]

okay try moving the bones in the scene and see if they move the body

[junior void]

Good idea

[arctic ginkgo]

i mean by all accounts the rig should be animated correctly, so the issue may be with the mesh

[strong rock]

like this?

[junior void]

I guess we have our answer

[winter edge]

How can I close my avatar's hand temporarily in unity so I can position my knife correctly when hand is in fist

[strong rock]

so is it a blender issue?

[arctic ginkgo]

yeah your model doesn't seem to be weight painted

[junior void]

Have you not weight painted it?

[strong rock]

no i didnt know that part

thats embarcing

[junior void]

With such a simple mesh, parenting the armature with automatic weights should give you a decent base paint

[strong rock]

ok thank u! ill try that

[cursive laurel]

Keep getting stuck on this, any ideas? -

It wont upload and get stuck

[strong rock]

added the auto weight now im gonna redo the unity part

[severe galleon]

can someone help me with the animations?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWPl5xHi51U

i have the wings of this video, but all the animations of this wings are just blank an empty animations so the toggles are working but the animations are empty

[plucky mantle]

Please help? #1300934332096970825

[elder ginkgo]

Pretty new to blender but what is selected is connected to the hoodie, it works in pose mode but in unity the strings doesn't work I see the physbones moving but the strings don't move in blender.

[strong rock]

@junior void its not perfect but it works :D

[lethal sluice]

ive set up a smoke particle looking thing that triggers with a contact reciever, it looks great, however every time its triggered in game, the particles start slightly higher? so the emmitter like slowly flies into the sky. Not sure what setting i need to change to fix this

fixed it nvm

[frosty flax]

Is anyone able to fix something for me on a model I don’t use blender but I think something needs to be like weight painted so it can be attached or something

This is something that would probably also need to be taken to DM’s btw

[rare jacinth]

I bought a booth model recently and I added goloco to it. They legs went a bit funky and I'm wondering if anyone knows how I can fix it.

Here are some pictures for reference. The white cat doesn't have gogo and the orange one does. The orange one is the one I'm trying to fix at the moment. Any ideas on how I can keep gogo but have the legs be normal?

[somber sequoia]

why do you have an armature under the armature?

[frosty flax]

It’s like some piercings btw

Please anyone?

[somber sequoia]

you can commission people at the VRC Traders discord, link in #1204490664637890580 ....

[frosty flax]

Oh

[ocean vault]

Is their any tutorials on how to make physbone props you can grab? i wanna make it so i can pull the sword off my back and when i release it on my back it snaps back.

like those other avi's

[somber sequoia]

I do that with contacts instead of a physbone, but you certainly could use a physbone.

[ocean vault]

what is a contacts? im just looking for a solution lol

[somber sequoia]

there are a lot of tutorials for this

Contact sender/receiver

[ocean vault]

can you share me some?

[somber sequoia]

literally web search for "VRChat grabbable props" shows a bunch of decent results

[ocean vault]

okay i will try that

[somber sequoia]

I don't have like, a go-to, but the first few videos in the search results look familiar

[ocean vault]

is it simple to implement?

[somber sequoia]

but yeah, what I do is stick a contact receiver behind my shoulder that accepts a hand, that plus making a fist moves the sword from the sheath to my hand via moving parent constraint targets. Pretty simple overall.

(active contact plus "open hand" will release it)

[ocean vault]

okay thank you, i have never heard of a contact receiver before but hopefully i can watch these vids and figure it out

[somber sequoia]

docs here: https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-dynamics/contacts/

also #avatar-dynamics for specific help

[ocean vault]

also if i do this should i delete the toggle for the sword on back and sword in hand? thats what i was using before

[somber sequoia]

no you move the sword

oh toggle - nah, you can keep those, sometimes you may want to use the toggle instead

[ocean vault]

oh ok good

also is their a way to toggle off the contacts just incase i want to make it so on default the sword isnt on my back. so i have to toggle it on?

[somber sequoia]

sure, just use a toggle animation to disable the game object the contacts are on

[ocean vault]

so i will use a toggle animation to disable the prop and contacts

[somber sequoia]

sure

[ocean vault]

ok

[storm elbow]

i was wondering if i could call someone and share my screen to get help with this problem im having on vrc creator companion please and thank you

im slowly losing my mind

[somber sequoia]

you might try #creator-companion

[ocean vault]

should i add the thing to my chest or right shoulder?

im not sure witch would be better

im thinking chest but im not sure

[somber sequoia]

honestly, wherever it works better for you. I think I did chest.

[ocean vault]

ok il do chest

if it doesnt work il just load save and do shoulder

going smoothly

[spark walrus]

can anyone help me

with setting up a usable gun

i literally dont understand whats wrong!

can someone help with this situatuion

[somber sequoia]

is there audio? because I don't see what you're doing here

[subtle sigil]

my avatar fingers close with no imput

[spark walrus]

So my problem is that when I equip the gun this sound which should be the equip sound plays but instead with the sound also all particle system plays

Don't understand why

[night ember]

Well dont have the particle enabled

[somber sequoia]

probably the particle system and sounds are enabled by default

[spark walrus]

Because basically the sound is connected to the main mesh of my gun and it has many subdivided blocks

Which one of them is also called enable me

But thing is that

I placed the particles in the perfect place on the gun

Buy still the gun when I'm in-game won't shoot

When I press the trigger

[somber sequoia]

ok so none of that conflicts with what Diven and I just said

[night ember]

Are you doing the correct gesture

[spark walrus]

As far as tutorials online NO one literally shows how to make your gun shootbale

Able*

[somber sequoia]

re: the trigger thing, probably what is supposed to happen is whatever trigger you use simply enables a "play on awake" particle system. Which should be off until then.

[spark walrus]

Thing is my gun has no anim for the trigger

Like it's one mesh only

[night ember]

"Shootable" is just a particle that has a gesture animation that enables the object for the particle itself

[somber sequoia]

so? you can make one

I have a gun in unity right now that's also just one mesh.

[spark walrus]

You can't really

[night ember]

I have several guns that are only one mesh

[spark walrus]

If the trigger is connected to the main mesh

[somber sequoia]

what?

[spark walrus]

It's not possible to move it

[night ember]

What are you on about

[somber sequoia]

incorrect - blendshapes and armatures are ways to do this

[spark walrus]

But that's blender

[somber sequoia]

?

[night ember]

The trigger moving isnt required in the slightest to make it shoot

[somber sequoia]

can even do a moving slide, still one mesh object 🙂

[spark walrus]

I know but what steps do I need to make the gun actually play on trigger pressing because?

Like

Button*

Not because sorry

Shitty autocorrect

[somber sequoia]

if [whatever shoot action you want] happens; then play shooting animation

[night ember]

literally just make whatever animation that moves the trigger also enable the particle

[somber sequoia]

yep, that

[somber sequoia]

heh, other "c-words"

[spark walrus]

since im too dumb apparentely to understand any of that now, i will go step by step, this is my root of the gun

[somber sequoia]

I'm sure it's a rooster. ANYWAY

[spark walrus]

i wanna attach

with all its subfolders

[night ember]

thats not subfolders?

[spark walrus]

idk what to call em

[night ember]

thats just the hierarchy

[spark walrus]

still thats its structure

[night ember]

how are you toggling anything with the gun

[somber sequoia]

so we have no idea what any of those objects are from here, but probably one of them like "gunshot" is the actual particle system. Disable it by default, have your shoot animation enable it

[night ember]

you need to make toggles

[spark walrus]

i have only one toggle

from where you grab the gun

and then make it disappear

that work

but

[somber sequoia]

so make another for the shooting

[night ember]

then make another toggle that shoots it?

[ocean vault]

alright i got it working, but i don't know how to make a toggle to turn the sword on and off?

[spark walrus]

wait

[somber sequoia]

there are LOTS of tutorials for this too

[spark walrus]

the gun is also placed in the same fx controller as 2 other guns

[somber sequoia]

reasonable

[night ember]

avatars only ever have one fx controller

[spark walrus]

while the other guns use a shoot anim and it works on them on my new one it just doesnt even work

even if i add the mesh render

and all the hireacy

[ocean vault]

wait does what i did with my prop i can turn off and on in my hand work with this to?

[spark walrus]

on the shooting anim

and shoot off anim

[night ember]

what

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what this image is showing

[ocean vault]

its the animations i made for the toggles for one my props that turn off and on

will it work with this?

or do i need another method

[somber sequoia]

I again refer you to tutorials on how to make toggles

[ocean vault]

no, i know how to make a toggle i just dont know if i need a special one for this.

like will it break

[night ember]

just toggle the particle system

[spark walrus]

so thats the shoot 2 ani,m

which controls the other guns

[somber sequoia]

it's just game objects you're turning on and off, not sure what else you're talking about here

[spark walrus]

i tried to copy the same structures as the other guns

for mines

[ocean vault]

like if i only turn off the sword frombeing there will the contacts disapear as well

or will their be an issue

[spark walrus]

but the other guns dont seem to use "toggle" option

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea how your project is setup, but again, you can make a toggle turn on/off whatever you want

[spark walrus]

they use an animation

[ocean vault]

yeah

[somber sequoia]

if you're trying to show something in an image, it'd help to not clip out all the parts that give us a clue what we're looking at

[night ember]

"toggle" as in making the animations enable and disable the particle system

[spark walrus]

so i should make 2 different animation like nagant off and nagant on and then where do i place them?

[somber sequoia]

and I have no idea what that "shoot 2" image is indicating

[ocean vault]

so will the animation toggle work?

[spark walrus]

shooting 2 is just the shooting anim for the 2 other guns

which i added to the fx controller

[night ember]

in the fx controller like how you make any toggle?

[spark walrus]

is there a way to launch a new preoject with all plug ins u want injected?

[spark walrus]

ok so

you all telling me

thaat the stock shoot 1

shoot 2

and shoot off

that came

with the other 2 guns

wont work

on the new one?

like the other ones that i made for the other guns?

wont work with the new one too?

[somber sequoia]

we have no idea whats in them so there's no way we could say yes or no from here

[night ember]

🤷‍♂️

we literally have no idea how any of that is set up in the slightest

[somber sequoia]

it's not like there's only one way to setup a gun prop - you can do this in many many ways

[spark walrus]

so this is roughly what the setup for the stock shooting fx graph is

[night ember]

that still doesnt tell us anything

[ocean vault]

So basically can i use a animation toggle to toggle off and on the model of the sword or will that cause issue with the contacts?

[spark walrus]

and what would

to be exact?

[night ember]

transitions

[somber sequoia]

Turning off a game object will also disable its children. Beyond that, it won't affect anything else.

[spark walrus]

this?

[ocean vault]

ok thank you i was just wondering becuase it doesnt have any children

[spark walrus]

hi

[ocean vault]

besides the avatar nvm parent

[somber sequoia]

personally I'd put those contacts and the sword as children of some root object, so turning on and off that turns both sword-on-back and the grab contacts off. But hey, start simple.

[night ember]

all you do is the fist gesture and it transitions to shoot 1
then point and it switches back to shoot off

[spark walrus]

hi @somber sequoia

[spark walrus]

i push the triggr on vr to shoot the other 2 guns

[somber sequoia]

I tend to use fist for grabbing the gun, then gun-shape for shooting, but maybe I like that better

[somber sequoia]

... what?

why you ping me

[ocean vault]

The propchest is a child of the chest and the prophand is child of the right wrist

[spark walrus]

just wanted to say hi

[somber sequoia]

please don't ping me for random BS.

[night ember]

literally what that transition does is check for if you are doing the fist gesture

[spark walrus]

wont ping u next time then

will just say hi kazin

[somber sequoia]

whatever

[night ember]

there is no "did I press trigger" on avatars

[spark walrus]

oh so even if i do press above trigger thats just fist

got it

but here comes the interesting part

in the "shoot 1" block

[night ember]

you dont need to press trigger at all

[spark walrus]

theres the anim "shoot 2"

[ocean vault]

that's why if i turn off the sword model and make it toggle on and off it will not affect the contacts as they will always be on. I was wondering if that could cause issue or the contacts wouldn't be hurting anything becuase i cant toggle them off.

[spark walrus]

which shoot 2

[somber sequoia]

no need to worry about them being active, it's fine

[spark walrus]

i added all the new guns meshes

in the order of the other ones

[ocean vault]

ok thank you

[spark walrus]

that were already there

but still it just doesnt work

like the others

shoot off has the same structure ecc

so idk about you guys but,

seems like that i did everything correct still

the gun

wont shoot

[somber sequoia]

sorry, I'm really not sure I'm following along because it sounds exceptionally over-complicated

[spark walrus]

i mean it is...thats why im asking help cause i dont understand what i did wrong and why my gun wont shoot even if i placed its mesh in all the anim motions and everything inside the main fx controller

like the other guns shoot and mines just refuses

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure what you mean about placing mesh

[spark walrus]

you see the shoot aim 2?

it has ruger and carabine

as skinned meshes

basically the anim connects to the mesh

that needs to be applied to

[night ember]

you toggle the particle system not the gun's mesh

[spark walrus]

but the guns mesh was required to be put inside the shooting anim 2 if not the gun wont be recognized by the game

[somber sequoia]

... what?

[spark walrus]

again like the other 2

[night ember]

dafuq are you talking about

[spark walrus]

BRO look here

[somber sequoia]

1 toggle to enable/disable gun. 2nd toggle: if gun is enabled and gesture is made: fire gun

that's all

[spark walrus]

do you not see that ruger and carabines meshes

are BOTH

set as propeties

[somber sequoia]

I don't know whatever else that list is

[spark walrus]

in shoot 2

[night ember]

my guy

[spark walrus]

the rod low is just the new gun

[night ember]

an animation literally just toggles shit

[spark walrus]

i had to add it at mesh renderer

[night ember]

no you dont?

[spark walrus]

yes i did

[night ember]

no?

[spark walrus]

why the other guns were there then huh?

inside shoot 1

[night ember]

because of how they are toggled?

[spark walrus]

were put there "casually"?

[night ember]

all of that shit about the other guns are blendshape related

the animation literally changes blendshapes thats it

blendshapes named "trigger"

likely literally just moving the trigger part of the mesh

[spark walrus]

so that wont count

[somber sequoia]

I'm guessing this is some pack of multiple guns, and they made these overly complicated animations rather than one set per gun

[spark walrus]

is 2 guns

only

one shoots auto

[night ember]

literally that entire image is animating materials and blendshapes

[spark walrus]

and one single

[somber sequoia]

if you're adding a third I'd not touch any of this stuff at all, and do it entirely separate

[night ember]

all you do to make the gun shoot is enable the particle system and audio

[spark walrus]

my goal was copying the single ones structure and adding it to the new one

which was the pistols one

[spark walrus]

and how tf do i do that

[gloomy pier]

how do i fix this issue?

[somber sequoia]

#avatar-help message

[night ember]

you just add to the animation enabling the particle system object and audio source object

thats it

[spark walrus]

but at the end is it NEEDED to do add other 2 anim for the new gun on the anim folder and on the fx controller?

[night ember]

what are you talking about

you can literally just add onto the animation that is already there

[spark walrus]

i ment as in the gun animation the new one will be added on the fx layer folder

inside fx

right

[night ember]

just have it be "if using fist, if not using fist"

what

you can make a whole new layer doing literally the same transitions as the one already there sure but you can literally just add onto the already existing animation

[somber sequoia]

one of mine - there's a toggle for "enable gun" and then a gesture for fire

[gloomy pier]

anyone???

[somber sequoia]

basically sets one int variable to the numbers which are the prefixes of the state names

[night ember]

personally Id use anystate to make sure it cant desync for remote users

[spark walrus]

in my root the guns work like this

[night ember]

just add to the damn animation thats already there

[somber sequoia]

yeah I tend to avoid anystate but that'd be reasonable too

this is also WD off

[night ember]

anystate is a godsend for remote syncing

[spark walrus]

how tf do i add that to the ALREADY shooting on off?

[night ember]

edit the animation?

[spark walrus]

its gonna break the other guns?

[night ember]

no?

[spark walrus]

yup because your not specifying if i should add a new rectangle on the shooting layer

[night ember]

I keep saying the animation

[spark walrus]

i dont understand IF youre talking about the anim file itself or the controller where tf should i edit

[night ember]

I keep saying literally the animation

[spark walrus]

so in the *ALREADY existing animation "shoot 2" i need to add the revolver as mesh in it?

[night ember]

no

[spark walrus]

then WHAT

[night ember]

not the mesh

[spark walrus]

what then

[night ember]

the

particle

[spark walrus]

only?

[night ember]

and audio if its not a child of the particle

[spark walrus]

so this 2 files only

here

@night ember right?..

[night ember]

🤷‍♂️

if thats the particle system and audio then sure

[spark walrus]

so thats what was inside the "gunshot" hirecy

[night ember]

then sure?

[spark walrus]

Which by the way uses the same exact structure as the other pistol that works

[night ember]

🤷‍♂️

[spark walrus]

thats what im saying from now all clear but....

what about the TOGGLE now..

[night ember]

what about it

[spark walrus]

now that particles are put there..

how do i make sure the game recognize the toggle

when i do the gesture

[night ember]

thats now how that works

you already have the toggle there with a transitioning checking for a default parameter

literally all you do is the fist gesture to shoot it

[spark walrus]

so in theory now

theres nothing to do now

i also noticed that

the paricle gun shoot has a saying

"play on awake"

should i disable that

[night ember]

no

[spark walrus]

okay now il see what happens on vrc i guess..

if i press right shift f1

should play the animation

[spark walrus]

the particles play automatically when i spawn the gun from the gun menu...

thats the main proble,m

[somber sequoia]

make sure the particle system is disabled by default

[night ember]

dont have the particles enabled when you enable the gun then

the whole point of the shooting animation is to enable the particle

[spark walrus]

how do i do that?

yes

but how do i make them not enabled

thats the 10000 dollar quesiton

i have no idea how

on this new gun

[night ember]

just disable the particle system?

[spark walrus]

from the hirecy?

[night ember]

yes?

literally what you did to animation but disabling it instead

[spark walrus]

so it should be like this right

with all the hirecy hidden

[spark walrus]

like this

[night ember]

🤷‍♂️

[spark walrus]

why 🤷‍♂️ ???

[night ember]

is rod_low what you toggle in the animation or what

[spark walrus]

rod_low is just the model of the gun

[night ember]

is gun shoot disabled as well or did you only disable rod_low

[spark walrus]

the sound on rodlow is not the gun shooting but the gun enabling sound

[night ember]

thats not what I asked

[spark walrus]

gun shot is disabled but

when i disable EVERYTHING

the gun just doesnt spawn

ingame

even if i click the button on the controller..

[night ember]

well thats what happens when you disable everything instead of just the particle system that the animation is supposed to toggle on

[spark walrus]

2

how to not have my unity plug ins to reimport for every new project?

[spark walrus]

ok so

now i have now EVERYTHING but rod low

disabled

[night ember]

just disable gun shoot and leave everything else enabled

your animation enables those so those should be disabled

[spark walrus]

you did NOT specify where

-_-

[spark walrus]

also tf is this?

those are just the particles

on the shoot 2 anim

[night ember]

literally your image

[spark walrus]

why you showing me that?

?

[night ember]

because its what the animation toggles so that should be the only thing disabled?

[spark walrus]

therse???

there??

you did not specify where should i go

plus

why should i disable that on

shooting 2

[night ember]

dude use common sense
if its enabled then the animation literally does nothing since its already enabled
and I said disable those 2 things so the animation can enable them

[spark walrus]

the othert guns

are enabled on the shooting animation

but on shoot off

the single shot

is disabled

[spark walrus]

the reason there is no audio is because my reason is that i cant access the unity project even tho i have the vrc 3.7.1

[somber sequoia]

what is it that you're trying to do exactly?

[spark walrus]

im trying to open up the unity project

[somber sequoia]

that looks like you're trying to import a unity package?

[spark walrus]

yes thats im trying to do but in the video you see me clicking on unity and trying to open it up and I can not do that

[somber sequoia]

so I don't use Windows but aren't you already in Unity, and so by clicking on that it's just showing you the already-open window?

[spark walrus]

well now the gun and the equipping animation plays but when i press the gun shooting button nothing plays not the sound nor nothing

well il found a solution another time

i dont think theres much anymore to fix...

anyways

il just stay i guess with a gun that wont shoot

ig

[spark walrus]

the window that you see to unity is opened yes but if i try to click on it like (clicking on any app to open) it will not open

when I import models into unity

they look crap

is thgis bc of shaders?

[left gull]

that depends on what you mean by "crap" and if its a pre-made model or just a fbx

[spark walrus]

fbx

in blender it looks as it's supposed to look

@somber sequoia I can send you a video if you like to see what Iam talking about?

[somber sequoia]

I'm still not a Windows user so probably not of much use here

[spark walrus]

Alright thank you

[left gull]

shading and such doesnt save when bringing it to unity

[spark walrus]

but even wiht poiyomi toon it looks crap

[left gull]

im not sure what you mean when you're saying its "crap" but you'll just have to mess with the shader properties a bit more to get it more accurate (or use a diff shader entirely)

if you sent pics of what it looked like in blender and what it looks like in unity someone could likely help you get to a visual you're aiming for

[copper carbon]

so i just got this error when uploading to quest
anyone know any ways to decrease the download size by ... 12 mb without ruining my textures?

[somber sequoia]

have fewer textures? 🙂

[copper carbon]

i need all of them though

well i do have 16 knife textures but like
customisation :3

[somber sequoia]

you'll probably have to make some compromises

...

[copper carbon]

XD

this blend tree might say something about what i should remove XD

[somber sequoia]

I'm happy you've used a blend tree though 🙂

[copper carbon]

uncompressed size is 75mb btw

[copper carbon]

i dont wanna spend 2 hours setting up transitions for 32 animations ... fuck that

so what is vrcf mobile sync and why does it keep telling me to upload to desktop?

[agile reef]

some clothing pieces for example, the Sleeve and Thigh highs- move weirdly off the body.

When the hip bone is rotated, the body follows but those items do not. They should be weight painted properly- is there something else I'm missing?

update : FIxed!

[split crown]

hey, im tryna figure out why an avi i imported to blender and exported suddenly gained a ton of polys to the head and body mesh

[static cipher]

How do I make a part of a texture transparent on an avatar? I have the image imported as this:

[agile reef]

Set the material property to Cutout when the texture is used in a material

[static cipher]

Looking in my material right now, where do I set that?

Or, do I have to frankenstein the Toon Lit and Transparent Cutout shaders together?

[night ember]

vrchat shaders dont support transparency

[elder ginkgo]

I fixed the armature going to try to fix it tomorrow after 4 hours gave up lol

[copper carbon]

particle additive does
good option for questy transparency

[night ember]

fake transparency yes

not great for cutout

[copper carbon]

its fake???

is there a way to check download and uncompressed size without having to try to upload every time?

[night ember]

not really since it needs to be built in order to see it

[native urchin]

I'm curious, is it possible to edit the look of the vrc camera? Like, I have a Destiny Ghost asset that I would LOVE to have automatically surround the camera when it's in Fly mode. Or at least a toggle to do that.

[night ember]

no

you can take over the camera using an overlay shader (pc only) but you cant change the model of it

[native urchin]

So theoretically can the overlay shader look like anything? Such as the Ghost model?

[night ember]

thats not what an overlay shader is?

there is no model

overlays are your hud

[native urchin]

Ohhh

Idk anything about avatar creation. That's why I ask

[somber sequoia]

you can make a flying drone with a camera on it though

[night ember]

then use an overlay that takes over the camera's view

[native urchin]

Ah ok. Ty

[copper carbon]

ive removed some textures from my model but my download size isnt going down anyone know why?

[night ember]

did you actually remove them
did you upload again

[copper carbon]

yeah i removed the animations that changed the textures to them and i uploaded again

i even removed a mesh

[proper depot]

Hello! I have my avatar in blender looking just fine, the uv looks good as well, but when I put the material on it in unity it appears distorted, it is good to note that the body material almost appeared to be on the face upon import but is not on the head in blender, nor is the face material on the body, just a bit odd haha

[left gull]

you could try pinning the UV before exporting or checking if you've possibly got multiple UV maps on the mesh

[proper depot]

For some reason the UV map appears misaligned on the texture? but it looks fine on the head itself?

I tried to reallign it and it was looking funky

and also pinning the UV? :0

Can i ask how to do that?

This is when I am looking under the UVEditing tab

[left gull]

ah its not missaligned the texture is just not made for that UV

or you've edited the texture's size maybe?

[proper depot]

I am so dumb lmaoooo

I used to wrong texture

smh omfg

tysm so all of ur help!!

[left gull]

😂

glad to help

[spark walrus]

how do i make my own walk animations?

[dry briar]

Does anyone know how to fix a situation where the avatar seems to be leaning back a bit in VR?

[spiral trail]

How come a lot of avatars I see have no controller specified? That's where I used to go to add toggles on my avatar, but other avatars I see don't have anything there. Where is the controller with all the clothing toggles?

P.S. There's no VRCFury on these avatars either.

[left gull]

FX layer is for making the toggles and expression menu is for making them usuable via your menu ingame

[spark walrus]

no thisone

[dry briar]

Or just the feet in general are more forward than they should be

[spiral trail]

Thank you!!!

[unreal pasture]

Animate it

[spark walrus]

how's this achieved

this effect

[left gull]

an emission or decal with a scrolling effect on it (can be done in poiyomi iirc)

though not sure if you can get it exactly like that possibly just similar

[spark walrus]

it shouold be on the eyes too but it isnt so i wanna see how it was done

i have this avi

[spark walrus]

i found it

by playing around in the shader options looking for changes

[mortal spindle]

Hey so I uploaded an avatar over a year agi and no longer have access to the files. It is PC only but I want to be able to use it on quest. Can someone please help me?

[left gull]

if it was a purchased model then you can likely go to the download page and grab it otherwise you're SOL other then re-making it again

[spark walrus]

yeaj

[elder ginkgo]

anyone know what am I doing wrong? :c the string wont move

[left wharf]

you have to do weightpaint to move meshes.

[elder ginkgo]

which vertex group do I select?

[junior void]

you should watch basic tutorials about weight painting

[elder ginkgo]

ah okay ty

[fallow fiber]

anyone know how to add gogoloco to a modular model?

[subtle sigil]

Hello, my avatar fingers close without any imputs

And open when any Button is pressed

[fallow fiber]

no i just imported it, dragged it onto the avatar, then deleted it from the heirarchy after it seems to be messing with the idle animation of the avatar thing in gesture manager

i got the new gogoloco and i saw it has a prefab labelled for modular avatars

so i assumed it's like vrcfury where u just drag and drop

[hardy light]

How do i remove weight paint

Weight is set to 0.00 so it should remove stuff but it doesn't do anything

[ornate stump]

It might still a bit more than 0.00, or it's painted to another vertex group.

[subtle sigil]

Strength should be at 1 as well

[hardy light]

i can't seem to fix it

if i remove weight paint on both legs they either become worse or just won't detach

[static cipher]

they don't??? i've seen poiyomi do it, should i just swap to that?

[ornate stump]

poiyomi is a different shader from vrc shader.

[static cipher]

ah, so for my purpose i should just swap to it? i assume i can eventually just get something similar to toon shader working in poiyomi

[ornate stump]

Yes. Unless you're building quest avatar which shader choice only is limited to vrc shaders.

[static cipher]

dangit-

well, guess i have to choose quest compat (meaning i have to find a different method AGAIN) or being able to stop dealing with this issue

[subtle sigil]

Can someone please help Ive been stuck on this for weeks 😭

[ornate stump]

Do you use custom gesture layer?

[subtle sigil]

No, no animations or gestures at all

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot the playable layers assignment to confirm?

[subtle sigil]

i only have an eye animation

[ornate stump]

Then check rigging configuration and see how the finger are doing.

[subtle sigil]

here?

[left gull]

your missing some finger bones, drag the correct ones into their slot from the heirarchy (or if you click the little circle you can find it via name aswell)

[subtle sigil]

the model only has 3 fingers on each hand

the problem is that they close with no command

[ornate stump]

How is it look like in the rig scene?

[ornate stump]

How are the fingers actually look like it game?

[subtle sigil]

no imput = finger close together

[ornate stump]

Do you mean making open hand gesture as no input?

[subtle sigil]

When I press a button on the controller, it opens the hand when I don’t press anything it will do that

this

[ornate stump]

When you pressed or touched button, the game will determine input as a certain gesture even there is no any input, and the gesture will determine which hand animation will be played. You might have to check for finger bone rolls in blender and get them zero roll.

[olive dagger]

okay going from blender to unity it does this and i don't know why blender is perfectly fine

[ornate stump]

If you unpacked the model in unity scene and update fbx file, it tends to break like this.

[olive dagger]

wdym?

[subtle sigil]

where do i check bone roll in blender?

[olive dagger]

nevermind I figured out what you mean

is there a way to fix it so I don't have to redo all the systems

[ornate stump]

Select a bone from edit mode, and check in the side menu (open with N key).

[ornate stump]

No. Do not unpack it to begin with.

[olive dagger]

thing is I never unpacked it

[subtle sigil]

ok thank you!

[olive dagger]

but it's fine I'll just redo the systems

[ornate stump]

It has to be fbx prefab, or prefab variant from fbx prefab. If it's original prefab then it essentially acts the same as unpacked.

[olive dagger]

got it

[primal swift]

i can't get eye look to work on my avatar

i'm stumped

[hardy light]

How do i export to fbx

it doesn't work for me

if i try to export this happends

someone said has to do with UV unwrapping or smthin

[fallow fiber]

so my avatar is supposed to be floating by default, and there's a toggle for an afk animation where he reaches up at a cloud to sleep on it, and a toggle for having the arms up while idle on desktop. all seems to be working fine until i try to add gogoloco. he stops floating but the wings still move, cloud still shows up above him but he isnt moving to reach up and grab it, and the toggle for having hands up doesnt work either. anyone know what to do? thank you in advance!

[junior void]

It looks like youre using an addon to export as fbx but blender has this built in

[somber sequoia]

exactly what did you do here?

[hardy light]

Export FBX

[somber sequoia]

file -> export -> fbx ?

[hardy light]

could be how do i turn it off

[hardy light]

Mhm

[charred lantern]

can someone help me? ive been trying to upload maries quest version and first it said the download size was too large so i removed some stuff and now its saying this i followed the instructions on the payhip but im still getting errors

[somber sequoia]

still have to remove some stuff or decrease texture or mesh size

[somber sequoia]

well it at least tells you which object is the issue, it's Plane.001

[hardy light]

ohhhh

[charred lantern]

how do i decrease the texture and mesh size? sorry im very new to uploading and all so idk what im doing tbh

[hardy light]

i can't really delete it

if i do the mesh breaks

[somber sequoia]

oh I didn't suggest deleting it, just possibly fixing the UV map on that object. No, I have no idea how since I don't know what's broken.

though I wonder if opening it in a newer Blender fixes it, since we've got 4.2 now

[hardy light]

when i UV unwrap this error appears

[small nebula]

Where can I find the vrRat avatar asset :(

I need me vr rat

[somber sequoia]

So this means the solver can't figure out how to sanely unwrap your object, you'd need to add some seams where you want the islands to be

[somber sequoia]

#1138520828556890214 probably

[small nebula]

But I want the asset

OH!

Nvm

[hardy light]

dunno what you mean by that but how exactly do i add some seams?

[somber sequoia]

right click an edge in mesh edit mode, "add seam"

If this isn't clear probably find a tutorial on UV unwrapping, the visuals will make this much easier

[hardy light]

you mean mark seam?

[somber sequoia]

yeah, I don't have blender open

[hardy light]

ok

[fallow fiber]

bump!

[hardy light]

okay i added seams but the export thingy ain't workin

yk what i'll just ''save as'' and drag and drop the blender file into unity

since that has worked for ages now

[ornate stump]

Blend file version 4 and up can't be read by unity.

[hardy light]

damnnnn really?

lemme test

[somber sequoia]

That technically uses Blender to export an FBX behind the scenes, so it'd probably still be an issue.

[hardy light]

ok

yall were right

[somber sequoia]

ooh, which part?

[hardy light]

?

[somber sequoia]

you mean with using the .blend in unity?

[hardy light]

yah

[somber sequoia]

ah yeah

[hardy light]

i give up

i swear people are really weird i question why they don't do certain things

[ornate stump]

That error is uncommon so less people actually has knowledge of it.

[hardy light]

ok

[dusk pulsar]

I suppose this is not normal? The middle part stretching out like this. The leggings are from 2022, or earlier, imported as a separate asset.

[somber sequoia]

seems like IRL pants like that would work, no?

[dusk pulsar]

Oh... that remind me, I haven't splitted, perhaps then? :D