avatar-help

[coral mountain]

I added the radius but it doesnt make the physbones blue

[somber sequoia]

blue?

[round pewter]

if you have interactions turned off in vrc it makes physbones ungrabbable

[coral mountain]

I have them activated

[round pewter]

basically when you use physbone overlay activated they appear grey or blue on whether they are grabbable

[somber sequoia]

oh in the game

[round pewter]

yep

[somber sequoia]

I test this stuff in play mode

[coral mountain]

Alot of the times when I watched someone else physbone, the radius turns blue when you can grab them

Ima keep messing with it-

[gilded ocean]

anyone know how to fix this?

[night ember]

use the same type of parameter

[gilded ocean]

ik jack squat bout unity

[gilded ocean]

how do you do that?

[left gull]

create a new material and change the shader to the specific poiyomi version shown in the screenshot maybe? unless that is your material you've got in unity

[fair mirage]

the thing that says Shader [VRChat/Mobile/Toon], click that and change it to poiyomi. if you don't have poiyomi in your project you'll need to download it, drag the unity package into unity, and press import

[gentle goblet]

Hmm so I bought a bodysuit and on the website it shows parts of the mesh being transparent and well I was wondering why mine wasn't like that. It has the normal textures, an emission texture and an alpha texture

[sacred reef]

hm, does anyone know what type of error is this? i got it quite a lot when trying to upload my avatar

[lilac musk]

It would be a good idea to look up beginner Unity tutorials. Unity is a fairly complex program, so going in without any knowledge of it and trying to make avatars might be a bit much. Especially because a lot of avatar tutorials out there don't teach you much Unity stuff and will just assume you know some level of it. Leaving you high and dry.

[unique cloud]

Unity file handling question - I made an addon asset, let's call it asset A, and built another of the same- asset B - type that re-uses some materials, menus etc from asset A. So far so good. The problem arises now if I have a project and import both asset A and then asset B, since asset B is overwriting same-named items in the asset A folder, despite being in different folders entirely. Can I fix this somehow in case a customer tries to import both assets into a project? I assume it has to do something with me having copied assets from A to B and it not properly updating the meta files?

[timber veldt]

Could someone pls help me w this? I've been trying to air link my pc to my headset but i keep seeing this

[balmy barn]

try steam link (free) or virtual desktop (paid) instead, airlink isnt good

[halcyon zenith]

does anyone know what causes the error "UnityException: Win32 could not create GUI view becasue CreateWindowEx failed with message: The operation completed successfully"? im trying to import an avi for a friend and it wont even regitser to the project ive looked all over the interwebs and couldnt find jack related to vr chat and this specific error and out of 180 avis this is the first time i seen a package just not import

[timber veldt]

Tyyy

[gentle goblet]

Was still wondering if someone could maybe help with this and if I need to provide any extra details I can too

[junior void]

Perhaps rendering mode. Take a picture of the shader settings?

[mossy ridge]

any1 got a good viseme guide?

[junior void]

i use the oculus one and a mirror x)

unless you meant unity stuff - i understood it as "make blendshapes for visemes"

[mossy ridge]

yeah that is what i meant

blendshapes

[forest dawn]

Hmm, I would have expected that to work too. Can you post a support ticket with this avatar's ID? I'd like to take a look at how it's rigged.

[unborn rapids]

Why am I not allowed to change these paramaters while in play mode? I am guessing that this is why my VRCAvatarParameterDriver isn't able to change them, either?

[stable isle]

it may have worked, but i didn't know since it didn't update till after I reset the game.

There's more testing that'd need to be done

[unborn rapids]

I deleted ALL my animations layers just to make sure nothing is setting them.

[ornate stump]

Are you testing with gesture manager?

[unborn rapids]

I do have Gesture Manager in my project, yes. Though I didn't even click on it yet (which seems to initialize it?)

I haven't included those parameters in here

[ornate stump]

With gesture manager, you have to change parameters in gesture manager debug menu.

[unborn rapids]

Wait so will my VRCAvatarParameterDriver just not work while I have Gesture Manager?

[ornate stump]

It doesn't work without gesture manager.

[unborn rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/fuwa-kokone-delicious-party-precure-magical-girl-anime-pretty-cure-gif-25995364

B-but it doesn't work already!

[unborn rapids]

Huh I wonder why that didn't show!

Normally it does here.

Wait, maybe it does work! I have something to try.

Okay yeah, the debug menu does show it!

Thank you!

So they do work!

However I still have an issue - it seems that these values cannot be read in my Conditions..?

I'm confused... Mmm...

[ornate stump]

What is youe observation?

[unborn rapids]

I might have simply misread my states - checking that now.
But summary:
I have 2 layers of sub-state machines and on the very last one, it seemed like the condition isn't being met to reach my state, though it appeared more as stuck at ~0%, and just not playing, rather than never reached - thinking about it now.

Hmmm! Seems my actual issue is that it went to the wrong sub-state machine!

The conditions are met for the Rigid one, but it went to Linear, I assume because of the orange arrow? How does the orange arrow work? '^^ I know it goes to it by default, I just don't really understand!

Also, am I meant to be somehow leave my sub-state machines if the condition isn't met anymore..? I'm struggling to understand how to use them properly.

[ornate stump]

It might be an issue if you test with greater than and less than with incorrect transition order.

[unborn rapids]

Hmm, they're all set to equal, and range from/to 0<->3

[ornate stump]

What with transiton from AnyState to Entry?

[unborn rapids]

I don't actually know..! :o

Huh!!

Omg that makes so much sense!!

It'll always go to Entry->Linear

Thank you!!

That's probably it!

Omg!!! I think Any State works between ANY LAYER

That'd be SO WEIRD!

Yeah!!!

That's what that is!

[unborn rapids]

That's what that was!

Okay, this throws me off completely then; I was doing it Toooooootally wrong ^^

[hardy sun]

This is gonna be a dumb question I can probably find an answer for within 5 nanoseconds if I actually knew what I was doing. I found an Avatar on sketchfab which I want to use as an avatar, and well, while it has large issues that need to be addressed, the major issue I need to fix right now is the model not having a chest bone. Also I'm using Blender 3.0 becasue 3.6 just crashes and 4.2 refuses to even try to load due to my gpu not supporting OpenGL 4.2 (I think). Anyway with all the context out of the way, what's the simplest way to satisfy VRChat with a chest bone?

[unborn rapids]

Okay, that helped a lot! It's still defaulting to the Orange one unfortunately, so I gotta figure that out somehow '^^

[junior void]

Id recommend starting by renaming bone, bone, bone, bone, bone... to what they are so everyone here has an easier time xD

[hardy sun]

Well, good luck to me trying to figure out what the bones are

Well, I wouldn't have caught that before, the bones are not in the arms but in the cape

[junior void]

You should do that in blender

[hardy sun]

I should probably figure out what the hell I'm supposed to do to find which bones are where

Or actually, just look at Unity and then find the bone in Blender and rename it

[junior void]

Why not set the armature to "in front"

At least you can see the bones easier then

[sly lodge]

I think your main issue here is that you don't have a chest bone, and you can change the remaining in the avatar configuration tool in unity

[junior void]

The first bone in your hierarchy should be hips. Go from there

[hardy sun]

Yeah, that's the main issue

Actually, it looks like I'm missing more bones, I just didn't notice it because of how Unity mapped it

Well, the bones have names now, or at least the bones I can actually figure out the names for

Did I mention that I have aboslutely no idea what I'm doing?

[junior void]

For the chest, id subdivive the spine bone and then duplicate the vertex group for spine. Youd use the weight gradient tool to remove the lower part from the spine group and the upper part from the hip group so to cut it in half. If it deforms well is another question but at least its a base to work with

Keep in mind fingers and toes are optional

[hardy sun]

I'll try to ask Google on how to do all that because that flew right over my head (Blender is too much for my tiny brain, if I wanna make something I just use Fusion 360). I'm sure everything you're saying makes sense and is very useful, but as I said, I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing

[quaint hound]

hello i have arrived... can anyone help me? im absolutely TWEAKING..
I'm trying to copy a shirt off of a avatar to a second version of the avatar with different features, however the shirt seems stuck to the original avatar i duplicated it off of. it's really messing with me D:

[quaint hound]

trying to move the duplicated object doesnt work either D:

[ornate stump]

Shirt is made from skinned mesh renderer. Skinned mesh renderer has associated bones that it came included in the model. That means you'd have to also move the bones that the shirt mesh stuck to into the new avatar.

[junior void]

Do you think this avatar is worth the trouble?

[quaint hound]

so, like

what

😭

i have 2 of the same avatars, how would I go about doing that?

basically 2 copies of 1 avatar, one with all of the things and one without anything, and now im trying to move a shirt over

[ornate stump]

You had moved only the object with skinned mesh renderer, then you have to move the bones the shirt prefer to stay with into the new avatar.

[quaint hound]

how do I move the bones from the "old" avatar into the new avatar without messing everything else up?

[hardy sun]

Absolutely. I'll just probably go slightly more insane figuring everything out

[ornate stump]

So alternative solution, is it the exact copy with the same object structure?

[quaint hound]

Yes, mostly with a few missing objects

the armature is the same however

[ornate stump]

Ok, alternate solution: duplicate any object that has skinned mesh renderer in the new avatar, then replace the mesh slot with the shirt mesh from the old avatar.

Might not work perfectly but lot of time saved.

[quaint hound]

ph ,y

oh my god

i

[junior void]

Fair enough. Rigging is just not really a thing id recommend someone new to blender to do. Consider commissioning someone or ask in the "request free" channel in vrc traders discord

[quaint hound]

id kiss you if i could

holy christ thank you

I Hate Unity Jank!

[ornate stump]

Double check if the shirt actually follow the bones.

By moving individual bones.

[quaint hound]

it follows the hip bone

good enough

[ornate stump]

Also make sure that materials slot match with what it needs.

[quaint hound]

welp seems like it works

you are a hero

god bless you

[ornate stump]

Yes. That works.

[junior void]

I feel like im witnessing a violation xD

[quaint hound]

sorry that my avatar has scoliosis

are you scoliosis-phobic or what.

[ornate stump]

Are you referring to my janked solution or offset spine?

[quaint hound]

(your janked solution is absolutely not jank

[junior void]

Im referring to the way robin is humping you hahaha

[quaint hound]

WHAT

[junior void]

Its cute

[quaint hound]

IM WHAT?

[ornate stump]

You mentioned it now I felt it that way.

[quaint hound]

WHAT?

[junior void]

Hahaha sorry lol

[quaint hound]

we love this

dont we

[junior void]

Furry avis are just... well

[quaint hound]

there isnt even that much in the quest one 😭

i just havent found the time to decimate it in blender

[hardy sun]

Well, I guess I'll at least try the request free section, I can possibly figure out how to make the optimizations myself. Worst case I can just go insane and try to figure out blender

[ornate stump]

3 years of making avatar and that solution just came up for me last minute.

[quaint hound]

i still love you for it

i was struggling for it like 2 hours now

longer if you count the time i ragequited for

[junior void]

We will still be here to assist if you cant figure something specific out :)

[hardy sun]

I don't think "The entirety of Blender" is specific enough xd

[junior void]

Not really, no xD

[unreal pasture]

my afk idles work but afk out does not work

where tutorial

[hardy sun]

I just noticed that the creator of the model didn't attach a license, uh oh. Though I am 99.9% sure I found them on Twitter and the account is active, so I'll ask them to add a license before continuing.
Uhh I can't message them on Twitter or Bluesky, I guess I'll just leave a comment and hope for the best

[unborn rapids]

Is there a way to have another if I ever run out of space?

[left gull]

VRCFury has a unlimited parameter script but i dont think you can have multiple parameter lists on a single model

fair warning the VRCFury thing can get a bit buggy if you're using too many extra/really complex things with it

[unborn rapids]

Ohhhh I see, thank you!

Is there a way to check if finger tracking is enabled from my avatar?

[limber sage]

Hello everyone, I don't understand what's going wrong? I never had this issue, but suddenly when working with any model the hair is getting pulled towards the head bone. I'm doing nothing different, I've even just done the most basic of things in blender and it still does it when I hit play in unity.

[buoyant thorn]

how do you animate the Speed property of an animation?

[junior void]

See if you have physbone colliders on the head

[buoyant thorn]

nvm i figured my issue out

I wish there were good physbone colliders that wasnt so oval so it could stop stuff from moving through and not just slide 😢

[balmy barn]

angle limits , stop them from ever going near your head, would need to rotate the bones to point inward to headbone (one way of doing it anyway) , does not require a collider

[feral abyss]

...i have just realised i may have made life harder, is it possible to copy blendshapes over to other meshes? Realised that, by not making all of the nail blendshapes first, i may need to make all of the blendshapes 5 times which... ughhhhh

sorry, 10 times, we have 2 hands

[junior void]

mesh data transfer

[feral abyss]

yippee!

[buoyant thorn]

how come after I added motion time to my animation when I have it as a radial puppet to increase speed now it just doesnt animate at all

even if i increase all it does is go while I increase then freeze almost like its just doing the animation as a radial puppet

[feral abyss]

okay new, even stupider question... whats the mirror modifier settings to make it so it copies across the y axis? could never get mirror modifiers to work right (and how do i then make the modified object its own mesh i can rename)

[buoyant thorn]

oh wait im stupid i shoulda put it on multiplier not motion time

[junior void]

Mirror modifiers work by taking your object origin as reference point

The orange dot

[feral abyss]

ah, so i gotta move the object origin to world origin, kk

[junior void]

You can just select an object and i believe ctrl + a? (A=apply) apply transform -> location

Also, see top tab "object" -> set origin to...

Play with that, itll make sense

Could be shift a as well, i keep confusing those

[feral abyss]

shift a is create menu, you got it right first time, okay, mirror modifier working, now to separate the mirror created object

[junior void]

Apply the mirror, then select one of the sides, hit p -> selection

[feral abyss]

...never mind, cant apply mirrors to things with SHAPE KEYS. Goddamn it...

[junior void]

You can also use symmetrize under "mesh"

Or if you didnt change vert count, use an addon to apply mirror despite having blendshapes

[feral abyss]

so its not having fun going in the direction id like, no matter what i choose. half of the options just delete the mesh!

[real lion]

I'm trying to play about with the avatar creation using the SDK. It tells me I can only test as I don't have enough hours in VRChat. But how do I actually test it?
It won't let me Build & Test it from the SDK console.

[feral abyss]

have you read and tried to fix all of the errors you can?

[real lion]

It just says I don't have permission to build avatars

[left gull]

?upload

[flat musk]

You must obtain at least "New User" Trust Rank in our Trust and Safety system in order to upload content. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.

As an aside, you must have a VRChat account to upload content. That means you can't use a Steam account, Oculus account, or Viveport account to upload content like worlds or avatars.

Source: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/frequently-asked-questions

[real lion]

I'm not trying to upload it.

[left gull]

test likely falls under the upload restrictions

[real lion]

Oh, it's a bit at odds with the welcome message lol

[left gull]

hm i always thought that meant like test in unity

[real lion]

yeah, It's I thought but hitting play when messing with an avatar doesnt do anything

Unless it's referring to worlds?

[left gull]

when hitting play if you've got your camera aimed at the model in the games tab you should be able to test contacts and phybone stuff but gesture manager lets you test the toggles,viesemes,and poses among other things

[junior void]

At this point please show what we are working with x.x

[feral abyss]

currently with the nails mesh, nails on the left hand need to be moved to the same fingers on the right, should be a simple y-axis mirror. However, -x to +x creates the second picture, -y to +y creates pic 3 and +z to -z creates pic 4. everything else erases the mesh

...all of the nails are copies of each other, if i just remove all of the blendshapes from a nail, mirror it, and then mesh transfer the blendshapes back over, that should work right?

[junior void]

Try to apply all transforms, not just location

Whenever it seems angled, check under "item" tab on the right that your rotation is 0

An alternative is trying blendshape transfer, yes, as long as the nails have same vertice number

[jagged wadi]

"attempting to upload an avatar we dont own" what do i do

[junior void]

Read first 3-5 errors

[static cipher]

I asked this yesterday, but is there a relatively easy way to lock an avatar's arms at a specific angle using a toggle? I have access to VRCFury and GoGoLoco if that helps, and am willing to use other plugins/packages

[jagged wadi]

nvm fixed it. i get this

[feral abyss]

Okay, nail mirrored, shapekey transferred... and it hates it. This is with the transferred shapekey at 0 on both nails, original and copy, but its decided to do this. oh, and its moved the wrong way

[junior void]

Looks like you used mirror while the shape key was active

[feral abyss]

nope, no mirror modifiers on either nail, in fact this nail had no shapekeys on it until just now, it was a totally clean slate copy

i copied and pasted nail 1, making nail 2. i then removed all of nail 2s shape keys, so i could use the mirror modifier. did that, applied it, removed the unneeded part of the mirror of nail 2, made the basis shape key for nail 2, and just transferred the shapekey from nail 1 now

[junior void]

Try this instead https://github.com/przemir/ApplyModifierForObjectWithShapeKeys

It may be easiest to take the one nail, copy and paste it onto all fingers on one hand, then mirror all 5 nails. Thats what id do

Just gotta adjust weights so the nails stick to each finger rather than all to the one finger they came originally from

[blazing hedge]

How difficult is it important models?

[feral abyss]

funnily enough, thats what ive done, ive just kept them as 5 separate objects. they arent even attached to the body, just 5 freefloating nails rn

okay, now to take all 5 mirrors and make them their own nails... or figure out a way to condense the blends shapes so i can adjust each nail individually without 10 copies of the same singular bendshape

[junior void]

Once you combine all nails into one object, the blendshapes that have exact same names will be merged

Si you wont have 10 blendshapes, one for each finger. Unless you rename them individually

My english is going to shit lol

[jagged wadi]

HELP

avatar not uploading

[feral abyss]

...jesus its gonna be a long night, LILength, RRStilleto, LMSquare, names like these and im going to forget my lefts and rights and which fingers which!

[junior void]

Are you saying you want each nail toggleable individually?

[buoyant thorn]

how do you people do the see through hair infront of eyes?

[feral abyss]

yeah, this is a massive project. each nails to be individually customisable, down to the colour, french tip, length, even the stencil laid on top

[junior void]

Good lord

[feral abyss]

i wanted customisable nails, never knew why i didnt see any. guess i know why now

id think about selling this but considering i just ripped the nails off of the free model im using as my base, that feels unethical

[jagged wadi]

heloooo??/

[wind skiff]

nuh uh

[junior void]

Yea itd feel like stealing for sure

[feral abyss]

maybe one day ill make my own nail model to go along with it, thatll be the day

[junior void]

I already feel bad for looking at other model's topology as reference lmao

[jagged wadi]

someone help me bro

[timber wharf]

errors go top to bottom, find the first red one

[junior void]

Theres over 300

Clear first

[timber wharf]

after clearing and building again ye

[wind skiff]

borked sdk and a missing script somewhere

[wind skiff]

also, don't do this, if anything it discourages people from helping you

[timber wharf]

@jagged wadi #avatar-help message

oh video doesnt take clearing into account 🤷‍♂️

[timber wharf]

well its poi, probly avi already had one (when it shouldnt), remove it from assets

[jagged wadi]

what do i do its still not working

[jagged wadi]

what am i supposed to do when i am getting GHOSTED in the HELP section

??

[junior void]

People have lives. Some of us have crying children, sick babies, jobs, etc

[jagged wadi]

can someone help me

[feral abyss]

it may be worthwhile searching online while you wait. someone, somewhere, on the internet has had the same issue. image search is your friend!

[jagged wadi]

tried that before i came here theres nothing

[neat coral]

also how do I do that as it has VRCfury but dont see that option

[somber meadow]

It’s a component you can add to the root object of your avatar (the object with your avatar descriptor)

[feral abyss]

okay, cut my losses, can adjust the nails but changes are made to both hands, close enough, right then. now i need to figure out weight painting because i want these stuck to the body, but still toggleable off

[misty laurel]

Can anyone explain what determines an avatar to be quest compatible and not? I recently bought an avatar that has a full version and an optimized version, but no quest compatible version. What is preventing the optimized one from also being quest compatible? Can I just change the shader and call it a day?

[feral abyss]

it appears i misjudged how weight pain works, shocker, my understanding was i could select a nail, go into edit mode, choose the vertex group for the part of the finger on the correct hand i want the nail attached to, paint it, swap to the other side, paint the other nail to attach it to the other hand and done, but that doesnt seem to be the case...

[wind skiff]

nobody is "ghosting" you, and you're also not entitled to anyone's time here

by acting like you are, people won't want to help you

[arctic ginkgo]

yes that should work, you also need to make sure the object is parented to the armature and has an armature modifer with the correct armature selected in the armature slot

[junior void]

Remember that every object you weight paint adds a skinned mesh renderer in your avatar statistics

You may want to rethink keeping all nails separated

Id merge them to the body and use blendshapes to hide them inside the finger tip for toggles

[static cipher]

bump cuz im silly and dumb

[feral abyss]

does this mean i lose the ability to adjust each nail using something like hue shift with poiyomi? or can i still do that?

[twin raft]

you can do that very easily

completely irrelevant from meshes

[icy iron]

I just exported this model I've been working on from Blender as an FBX, but when I import it to unity and put it in the scene, it's all blank and weird and really distorted... I'm not really sure what's happening here. I've never had this problem when uploading an avatar before... Can someone help?

[static cipher]

It looks like it's simply stretched horizontally, and you may have to re-apply the texture too.

[icy iron]

Well, yeah its really squashed and distorted and rotated incorrectly, but I'm not really sure how to get it to import properly...

[austere bay]

working on a new avi and i forgot how to make the metals sparkle like this :( I lost the project file so wondering if anyone knows how? I want it like the first avi, the second avi is how my metals are looking smh

[junior void]

Check if the avatar has unapplied transforms in blender (scale, location, rotation in the "n" panel)

[west cipher]

quick question. im making some float sliders for clothes, but for some reason the animation works, but when i test with gesture manager the slider only goes up to %50 and doesnt swap out the outfits

[icy iron]

I applied all transforms and re-exported it and that seems almost normal, except the bounding box is crooked for some reason...

[wispy spear]

should i set the weight to these as 1?

[junior void]

Never seen that. Try draggin a new fbx into scene?

[icy iron]

Seems the same whether I drop it into the hierarchy or directly into the scene

[winter edge]

Does anyone know of a tutorial somewhere to get perfect proportions with FBT between avatar and your IRL body?

[charred ravine]

So I've got this avatar I'm making, and the mask itself is a different object from the body. I have VRCFury blendshape link on the mask, and while the blendshapes work for emotes, for whatever reason they aren't linking when I talk in game? Anyone know how to make vrchat use the blendshapes on the mask when I talk?

[weak dune]

Can someone help a bit with some breathing animation issued with clothes? I can't seem to get them working together or finding the breathing effect to remove it.

[spark walrus]

HOW COME some avatars pets u cant see if u dont show avatar

but this one u can see it

[orchid tree]

so i'm trying to find the animation layers so i can copy one for my FX and uh...

that may be a problem.

i've tried SEVERAL times to reimport stuff, different projects

nothinn

[whole raven]

how did u export it?

[orchid tree]

vrchat creator companion is how i set up my project.

[whole raven]

I mean... where did u imported it from

[orchid tree]

what?

[whole raven]

the animations

[orchid tree]

the vrchat sdk comes with example gesture layers, i went to go search for it and its just not there.

i'm not importing any animations

[whole raven]

oh... I see what you mean

the default animations?

[orchid tree]

yes, the example layers

[whole raven]

Idk where they are

sorry

cant help ;w;

anyways, good luck there

and oh

I have a question

do u know how to get the avatar off the motorcycle pose?

[orchid tree]

when you click play? clear this right here

but if its just in that pose look in your animation tab and see if you're previewing an animation

[whole raven]

it is glitched in edit mode smh...

[steel tapir]

i, uh, forgot how to fix this exactly. when attempting to play the default dancing animation, only the hip moves; every other bone goes into falling position.

here's how the expressions & whatnot are set up in unity, if that helps.

[orchid tree]

i had the stupid eyeball on 😭

[left wharf]

You need to keep empty Controller property in animator component

[steel tapir]

that didn't fix it, unfortunately

[left wharf]

every other bone goes into falling position
This happens in unity too?

[steel tapir]

in the little preview window, it's fine; or are you talking about somewhere else inside unity?

[left wharf]

Yeah I mean “when using GestureManager or AV3Emulator, is the avatar fine?”

[halcyon zenith]

nvm i fixed my issue with the win 32 exception, thanks for your lack of help discord i now know more about how bunk unity iss lmaooo

[steel tapir]

no, shows up funny in unity as well (attempting to play the default dance emote here)

[left wharf]

Ok then exit play mode and show me your scene view.

[steel tapir]

do i just take a screenshot of the entire thing?

[left wharf]

Yes

[steel tapir]

(the animator is currently looking at the FX layer, for some reason. don't mind that)

[dark jay]

Can someone help me with weight paints I got it almost 100 % more like 80 to 90% there

[jagged warren]

bashing my head in with trying to get this audio to play on my avi (It worked beforehand but now no matter what I do it does nothing)

[dark jay]

Plz

Im bashing my head at this point

[left wharf]

I sometimes ask when I help someone’s avatar customizing but why did you unpack the avatar’s prefab?
Using unpacked prefab is harder way than packing prefab because if avatar is broken in unpacked prefab, you can’t revert the changes.

[steel tapir]

i unpack the prefab to give myself more leeway to add/change things

[left wharf]

In that case, you can use non-destructive tools like VRCFury, Modular Avatar.
anyway, I think the animator is causing the problem so show me your weewFX

[steel tapir]

it doesn't really have much of anything, as this is a fresh avatar with no features outside of emotes.

[spark walrus]

what if I spawn my model multiple times into the world>?

what happens?

[steel tapir]

the action layer is nirvash's laysit poses layer.

[spark walrus]

what if

guys

[steel tapir]

ideally nothing of note aside from there now being several of you

[left wharf]

Take your texture to illustration software such as AE, GIMP.

Yeah take png file to GIMP or AE

[dark jay]

Its the clipping in the orange part

[jagged warren]

I for the life of me cannot figure out why my audio is not playing? the toggle itself is activating fine but the audio just isnt playing?

(Note: the audio previously worked, I was just updating the model and now it doesnt work)

[left wharf]

Sooo, how did you add that animations? Added to FX Layer in the PlayableLayer?

[steel tapir]

all of the animations are in the action layer

other avatars of mine have an identical setup and work just fine, which is where i'm confused. i don't even remember how i fixed the issue the last time i had it.

[left wharf]

Try reimport the animation asset. If animator or animation is broken, it may fixes.

[spark walrus]

are they both controled by me?

or one acts dead?

[twin raft]

use masks

[steel tapir]

somehow still not working. unity is quite an anomaly

things are regular when i use the default vrchat layers, though; so i think i will have to reimpliment the laysitting poses & emote speed manually.

[left wharf]

Oh that’s so bad news… I wish you good luck!

[spark walrus]

so when i drop my character

twice into the unity world

i am going to control both of them?

or will VRC SDK give me error when I try to upload the avatar twice at once?

[left wharf]

OK so you want to make one avatar including two characters, right?

[spark walrus]

i wanna know what happens

if u drop ur avatar twice

[steel tapir]

thankfully i'm quick at copying things over

typing speed of 180 words per minute woooo

(it works now BTW)

i appreciate the help

[steel tapir]

(note: this only applies to English. :lol:)

[halcyon zenith]

"posts a question for help" gets removed "fixes issue and posts info about how to fix it" also gets removed so ill ask again properly (sheesh) has anyone encountered the error (UnityException: Win32 could not create GUI view becasue CreateWindowEx failed with message: The operation completed successfully.)?? Or the error (ObjectDisposedException: The Unity.Collections.NativeList`1[System.Int32] has been deallocated, it is not allowed to access it) if so can someone give some insight on what causes this please 🙂

[spark walrus]

what happens if u

drop ur avatar twicei n unity?

and upload

[left wharf]

I found this https://discussions.unity.com/t/various-win32-window-errors-flooding-console-breaking-editor/893440/5 @halcyon zenith

[left wharf]

I cannot understand wdym.
Could you take a video what did you do?

[spark walrus]

it is clear

drag ur model into the scene twice

upload

[left wharf]

Then, I will say “nothing happening when upload”.

[maiden portal]

Hey, how do I have my avatar keep this tired look on his face when I upload it to the game?

[spark walrus]

what does this mean?

[left wharf]

It will just finish successfully

[spark walrus]

can I have it?

[maiden portal]

Why? It's private, plus if I upload it publicly it'll get taken down

[spark walrus]

why? did u buy it?

[maiden portal]

Yea. and creators TOS says these cannot be uploaded publicly, even though there are plenty of them uploaded already

[spark walrus]

i can upload it as private

😉

[maiden portal]

Ok...but you have to buy one yourself

[spark walrus]

where
?

add me

[maiden portal]

https://booth.pm/en/items/5673586

[maiden portal]

nah i don't know you

[maiden portal]

Yeah, still needing help on this.

[left wharf]

have you tried FaceEmo?

[maiden portal]

No, have no idea what that is

[static cipher]

another way is to maybe figure out a way to disable face movement tracking?

[left wharf]

https://suzuryg.github.io/face-emo/

[young matrix]

I'd honestly just try making that face into the open hand gesture

Would prob be easier

If you can find the open hand gesture in the animation file and drag it onto the avatar in the hiarchy you will be able to edit the animation

And it should overwrite the already existing open hand gesture I'm pretty sure

[cinder flicker]

is it possible to use shapekeys for eye movement? using bones really doesn't work well for my character due to iris shape (shown in images)

[pulsar minnow]

Very new to avatar creation, and I was trying to add a prefab that seemed relatively plug and play but I cannot for the life of me figure out what they mean by this

Open unity, and import(you can drag and drop the file to unity) all mentioned items into your unity asset file.
Put "Black Silence.prefab" in your avatar object.
Parent the parts to [Black Silence/Parent to...] object's child. <---- This part specifically

This is what im working with currently

[halcyon zenith]

ty will look into it further

[ornate nebula]

I'm sure you've already gotten some feedback, but I think you just need to change the animations assigned to the defaults in Uzuru-kun's FX animator. If distortion occurs when you change the facial expression, it's a good idea to fix it each time.
Don't worry. I have already purchased Uzuruha and have attached a picture.

[halcyon zenith]

after much diagnogstics i figured the issue is unity itself for that particullar issue but it has now replaced itself with a whole new issue so im looking into that now

idk whats with the unstablility with unity now, pretty much botched alot of my projects with the force to upgrade

[spark walrus]

why is it grayed out?

[static cipher]

Unlock Shader button at the top of the screenshot under the Poiyomi 9.0.61

[spark walrus]

ty

[static cipher]

Also, does anyone know how to lock an avatar's arms pointing straight down via a toggle (in simple terms that a semi-beginner could understand)?

[spark walrus]

where did #avatar optimization channel go?

im getting this

[static cipher]

wym its #avatar-optimization, if you scroll up to the top of the channels list you can click "Channels & Roles" to choose all the channels you want to see

[spark walrus]

thc

[spark walrus]

doesnt work

[static cipher]

like how

it's this button here

[spark walrus]

okay

can u change the hyrachie bone parenting in unity?

[left gull]

think that's only possible in blender

[spark walrus]

damn

[static cipher]

bump

[spark walrus]

is it enough to refresh?

when I changedw the fbx ?

in another file

and overrrote the fbx

[young matrix]

heya, im using blender rn and im making a new shapekey but for some reason it moves a different shapekey i made? any idea on why the new shapekey is connected to another and how to remove the connection?

[static cipher]

If it's in blender, the image doesn't save automatically.

There's a way to save it (or at least export a copy) somewhere in the texture paint tab, which I'm assuming you're painting from?

or am i not getting what the issue is lol

[spark walrus]

skin gets super dark when using 'realistic' lighting type

why;?

overall eveyrhting else gets a bit darker too

but especially the skin

[static cipher]

Could be that your scene doesn't have a light in it?

[spark walrus]

it has]\

[static cipher]

Strange, maybe try this option and just replace your original file with it?

[spark walrus]

isnt everything connected to my upper chest as it is supposed to?

[static cipher]

Hmm- maybe check the import settings for the image in unity? It could just be automatically converting it into a non-transparent image

That'd be my best guess, otherwise I'm stumped

[cinder flicker]

how do you make an outline mask for poiyomi or liltoon? i haven't been able to find any information on it and i'd like to hide stray outlines in areas like this

[spark walrus]

arent they parented?

[static cipher]

Another option would be in an image editing program, paste the new version over the old version and save that

it could very well be, but im stumped at this point

[ornate stump]

Your bone names don't match with unity name convention makes it hard to assume which bone is for. You have to screenshot humanoid bone assignment in unity.

[spark walrus]

ok

screenshot to here/

?

[ornate stump]

Obviously there aren't somewhere else to post.

[ornate stump]

Masks are just black and white textures. Black means hide effect, white means mean effect. Take color texture as reference to paint black on where you don't want the effect to show. Most masks work the same way and can actually take greyscale image rather then b&w.

[static cipher]

bump 2: the sequel

[ornate stump]

You had sholders as children of chest bone, but you also had upper chest bone. You will have to either remove upper chest bone assignment, or reparent shoulder bones to upper chest.

[balmy lantern]

So, I'm using immersive scaler to make my model proportionally accurate, but I've found that the fingers are not able to touch each other in game when the index fingers are fully extended. I am also using index controllers if that makes a difference, but I notice this as well with quest and vive wands. Is there anything I can do to make them lign up better? I am not using any custom arm ratios and I am calibrating with arm span

[spark walrus]

can i do this in unity?

[ornate stump]

The former in unity, the latter in blender.

[spark walrus]

if i remove upper chesrt assignment it wont move well, would it?

[ornate stump]

No idea. You see the result yourself.

[spark walrus]

what do u mean by removing upper chest assignment?

[ornate stump]

Just set Upper Chest slot to None.

[spark walrus]

didnt work

same error

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot the rigging configuration menu?

[ornate stump]

Collapse the j_neck because we don't need to see what inside of it. And screenshot the assignment slots that's what I meant.

[ornate stump]

Where is the back_low in this image?

[ornate stump]

Don't crop. Screenshot it taller

[ornate stump]

So you didn't show the problematic bones in blender. How is the actual chest and shoulder bone relation in blender?

[ornate stump]

Spine4 should be assigned as upper chest bone.

[spark walrus]

u mean this one?

looks like it is in the right order

[orchid cloak]

can anyone help me upload a avatar I got?

I am a beginner and i would like to learn

[halcyon zenith]

same my arm breaks and rotates loading gesture manager this avi has wayy too many issues and id like to fix them so i can help others who bought it

45$ for broken files should be against tos but eh

ig scammings ok

[somber sequoia]

if they're one object you'd have to split it in Blender.

[halcyon zenith]

ummm a little help lmaooo my arm is a corkscrew? no i didnt make any edits to the amrature

if something is out of place id appreciate the help when available

honestly whoever made this avi needs a good talking to and spanking but nonetheless any hlep for this issue would be great cuz its the LAST one

[left gull]

does the page description list off any dependencies you didnt import?

[halcyon zenith]

no sir

it uploaded fine once and i moved the watched 6 inches and the right arm started doing that

and its like it lost all vr functionallity should i restart unity? and restart my pc if it doesnt work still??

[left gull]

it doesnt seem like a unity/PC issue more like whatever you did to "edit" the watch messed up the arms

[halcyon zenith]

huh.. maybe take it off the armature and but it below everything else and use a parent consraint to keep it in place??

that could be the issue now that i recall i put it on the LEFT arm and it broke the RIGHT one

idk why seeing as how i never touched it

but ill remove the chest anchor for the watch i thought you needed to have the parent source as chest or hips

[spark walrus]

my feet are all into the ground

in unity all looks normal

[halcyon zenith]

still squiggly arm

with 0 errors in console so im lost

[spark walrus]

help with my feet

pls

[somber sequoia]

you have to go into armature edit mode if you want to delete bones

[somber sequoia]

where is the object origin? we've been over this at least once

[spark walrus]

how do i find this out>?

[somber sequoia]

bring it into blender and check where the object's origin is, make sure it's at 0,0,0.

[halcyon zenith]

can gesture manager cause issues in unity now? i dont remember it acting as wonk as it does nowadays

[somber sequoia]

current versions seem to work for me

[halcyon zenith]

thanks for the info ill try that

i guess its not needed huh?
the toggles already was set and were functional

[spark walrus]

where do i get the location:>?

[somber sequoia]

I already said I'm not going to teach you basic blender stuff

I'm also not sure why the toes look like they're pointing down into the floor, that's probably not right

[spark walrus]

too long

[spark walrus]

it is all 0,0,0

ridiculous to watch a video on that

[mossy swan]

Question...where could the disconnect be?

[spark walrus]

even the image proved it

[spark walrus]

u forgot to link it somewhere

it's not reading the value

[mossy swan]

Hm, should be automatically reading it as I understand. I defined it in the expressions, slotted the expression list in, the value is being actuated, it is listed in the animator parameters...

[spark walrus]

and added parameter to ur script + layer?

[mossy swan]

Script+layer?

[spark walrus]

in ur fx file

im noob, i just remember this, u have to add the value twice or the file has no link to it

i shouldnt give advice, but since nobody here answers...

[spark walrus]

and layer*

[junior void]

Do you maybe have your eye bones mapped in the fbx rig config?

[unreal bobcat]

So, I'm working on a head hanging off a chain for halloween, but i am struggling to really get the physbones right, i've been adjusting all the settings but i'm at a bit of a loss so far

heres what I got so far, and the settings associated

[junior void]

Well, we don't know what's wrong with it since you're not describing how you want it to behave instead of what it is right now

[unreal bobcat]

the main thing currently is trying to get the head portion to swing around on its own

[junior void]

I'm not sure I get what you mean

[unreal bobcat]

So, when you have a chain with a heavy object at the end of it, and you swing it, it will naturally want to swing more on its own, because the kinetic energy is still there

where as this stops on a dime when i stop moving it around

[ornate stump]

It's called momentum.

You might have to put the curve on momemtum slider since the end part is the head which has more momentum than the beginning part.

[unreal bobcat]

well, it made it move faster into position

[ornate stump]

Try with lower pull and lower stiffness. There are tons of combinations so you have to keep experimenting.

[unreal bobcat]

yeah the video posted above was after 5 hours...

we are getting closer though, i'm playing with the curves rn

[ornate stump]

There are some sweet spot for values between pull, momentum, stiffness. The sweet spot is a bit hard to find.

[junior void]

I usually do this in play mode , thats faster. Some people change value, hit play, jiggle it, stop play, set it again and so on. I just play with values in play mode and copy the script before exiting out of play mode

[unreal bobcat]

yeah i always do it in play mode, waaay easier

[solemn tangle]

yeah, i don't know whats going on, the iron patriot isn't swapping materials and i checked the animation and it works, it has the exact same type of things running for it as it is with Camo and that works, so i'm out of ideas here.

[fallow gulch]

You don't have things capitalized the same way in the FX layer as in your parameter list

Capitalizing things the exact same way is very important

No wait, that's just the menu item's name, that's my b

Can you show what's in the animation?

[solemn tangle]

it's just a simple material swap, supposedly swapping from the original style to the "Iron Patriot" style

[fallow gulch]

What does the Camo layer do?
Is that a mat swap too?

[lime lance]

running into an issue where a depth light is effecting the lighting of an avatar

[solemn tangle]

yes

[fallow gulch]

Does that swap the same mesh's material?

[solemn tangle]

yes

[fallow gulch]

Because if you have a setup on that layer, that swaps between the default material and a different one, then the top layer will not work
This is because layers below take priority over layers above

So you want to put these mat swaps on 1 layer

[solemn tangle]

I thought it was 1 animator line thingy per layer?

as in i would have to use 2 different layers for both styles

[fallow gulch]

No, you can have many many states and things on 1 layer

[digital pelican]

Hello good people

Do you know what models are those ?

[fallow gulch]

Ask in #1138520828556890214

[digital pelican]

Okii

[worthy urchin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNajK7U_km0

i'm having a problem with a parent constraint and i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong. I have a guitar parent constrained to my hips but the offset is wrong and it clips into my body. i deactivate and unlock the constraint, move the object, then re-lock and re-activate the constraint (in that order)

but when i re-activate the constraint, the new offset is overwrittten and it clips back into the body

[fallow gulch]

1. Try to remove the VRC Parent Constraint
2. Move the guitar to where you would like to have it
3. Add a new VRC Parent Constraint
4. Hit activate

I know this is not ideal, as this doesn't tell you how to properly fix such issues in the future
But I think it'd work

VRC Constraints work a bit differently than Unity constraint, when you hit the Activate or Zero button

[worthy urchin]

i just used the checkmark not the button but i'll try removing and re-adding

[fallow gulch]

Aye, I have seen that in the video

[worthy urchin]

hmm re-adding the parent constraint does the same thing but now it snaps to the middle of my hips instead

[fallow gulch]

Did you press Activate this time then?

[worthy urchin]

no when should i?

or is not pressing it right?

[fallow gulch]

Pressing it is what you want to do

You adjust the guitar
You add the constraint
You press Activate

And that should be everything

Just don't forget to add a source

I forgot to mention that

You'd do that before hitting activate

[worthy urchin]

thanks that seems to have worked but i still have to test in game

[fallow gulch]

Neat :D
It will be fine in the game too

I'm sure of it

[quaint hound]

how could I move the "attachment point" for held objects?

ie move it so it'd be aligned with the grip

because i hope theres a way to adjust the grip contact point or whatever its actually called.. lmao

i know its something fixable because this is an issue on my avatar only

[fallow gulch]

This is something that worlds can control
VRC Pickups (item you can pick up in the world) have a field where the world creator can specify how you will be holding the item, when you pick it up
If this is not specified, then there is a default value that the game will be using

[drowsy pulsar]

What is this

[quaint hound]

this is an example with a different avatar being used, clearly more aligned

[fallow gulch]

Though I don't know what bone or contact sender ow whatever the object gets snapped to exactly

It might or might not be the wrist, which would sound logical

[quaint hound]

i know but this is an issue that only happens on MY avatar

so im looking for a way to fix it

[fallow gulch]

An icon or multiple icons in your menu are too high resolution

[quaint hound]

this is not world specific either, this happens in all worlds

[fallow gulch]

Hmm I see

Well I'd look at how the avatar's wrist bone and finger bones are aligned, compared to another one that can pick up things properly

[quaint hound]

i know that the finger structure is like

fine

the wrist bone is pretty like

centered

[fallow gulch]

There are 3 ways I can think of, about how this system could work
It either snaps objects to the wrist bone
It snaps objects to the wrist contact sender
Or it snaps objects to be in between of given finger bones (as an average)

[quaint hound]

even in that case, the average would be in the middle of the palm

[worthy urchin]

don't be too sure of it, removing the parent constraint broke my animations and now they all have to be re-done DX

[fallow gulch]

That shouldn't be the case, because animations are pointing to the very same object, and same object property

So that means that if you removed the constraint, and added back the same kind of constraint to the same object, the animation should just work still

[worthy urchin]

hmm then i messed something else up

[fallow gulch]

Unless you had multiple sources in there

[quaint hound]

dont be so sure its still unity 😭

[worthy urchin]

there's also an aim constraint that seems to be what actually broke

[fallow gulch]

I'm sure of it
that's how animations work

[worthy urchin]

huh you're right it's still mapped in the animation....time to figure out what else i did wrong lmao

[fallow gulch]

Also, this would make sense
And this sounds logical to me as well
But I have no idea what else you could do besides messing with bones to fix this :\

[worthy urchin]

is the gun part of your avatar? i know that when you need the origin of an object to act as if it's someplace other than the actual origin you can wrap it in an empty game object and use the origin of that

[quaint hound]

@fallow gulch ive found this but i genuinely do not know what this does AND how i can properly change these

[split sentinel]

so I'm curious how this is done, Ive seen avatars where they can make their voice come from other places? how do they do that exactly? what part of the avatar is the voice coming from?

[fallow gulch]

This is the position and rotation of the contact senders that get assigned to your avatar's hand

As all avis come with contact senders on the Head, Torso, Hands, and I think Feet

[quaint hound]

yea

[fallow gulch]

The sound comes from the Head bone
If you move the Head bone with a parent constraint, then the audio will come from that place

[split sentinel]

OHH

yknow that makes sense XD

[fallow gulch]

However, this does not move your vision or the place where you hear audio from, as those are tied to your viewball, which you can't just move around

[quaint hound]

is there a way to scale a avatar to a certain height aswell?

[split sentinel]

Thats fine, making a robot avatar and wanted to make it so I can make his voice come through a radio

[quaint hound]

also how do i adjust the isometric view clip distance?

[fallow gulch]

Isometric view is kinda funny to use

Scroll in and out to go further / closer

And if things disappear, hold right click in the scene, and back away by holding the S key at the same time

Just make sure you also align your camera to 1 of the axis by pressing that button

[quaint hound]

i see

[quaint hound]

thats exactly what i needed, thank you

[fallow gulch]

Np :D

[somber sequoia]

overwriting an existing avatar? Was the avatar prefab unpacked? 'cause that won't work...

[quaint hound]

if anyone has any idea on how to move the grip positions of an avatar (for vrc pickupables) please do tell

[verbal rover]

anyone know how to fix an issue when your avatar doesn't follow you properly, feels like a puppet; like if you look down, the avatar will actually move more than your pov and you'll look into your neck

[neat coral]

PC and androids keep failing security checks, can anyone help, also getting this on repeat

also jsut got this.

[somber sequoia]

As the error says, it's too big.

[neat coral]

well obviously so how do I fix it.

when I had it in 2019 it was 10mb, how dose it go up 100 in 2022

[somber sequoia]

Make it smaller, there's lots of discussion in #avatar-optimization and #quest-optimization

[pseudo stone]

LTCGI question: Am I allowed/encouraged to use shaders that can interact with this in avatars, or is it purely a world thing

[somber sequoia]

I do! It basically makes your avatar lighting be influenced by LTCGI stuff in the world

[pseudo stone]

Neat, another perk of the shader pack I use

[neat coral]

what abt this?

[somber sequoia]

Same reason

well the PC one you'd have to examine further, the quest one is obvious based on the size

[pseudo stone]

The PC one seems to be a GUI error, should fix with relaunching unity

It's one of the add ons you're using that is being cross

[pseudo stone]

Also to answer this question: It's the Uncompressed size that is at 100 megs, not the compressed size. This limitation was added back in... July?

Prior to that it was hard capped at 1.2GB, then further reduced to 500MB on PC and 40MB on Quest

[tiny coral]

Can someone advice how to make it not transparent for Quest? Or is it a Blender thing to edit mesh?

[pseudo stone]

I don't know any two sided shaders for quest off the top of my head.

[somber sequoia]

I don't believe that's possible

[sly lodge]

the easiest way is probably to duplicate the mesh in Blender and flip the normals, but it would increase the tri count for your clothing by 2

but you can duplicate it partially, or extrude your clothing's end, make those faces black, and fill the hole

[neat coral]

my avatar is like 200mb in game which is big but less then 500, so is 2022 now 100mb max on pc?

[sly lodge]

500MB is the maximum uncompressed size on PC, it's a hard cap

and even it's a hard cap, you shouldn't go above 300MB, because it's the default limit, new players wouldn't see your avatar if they wouldn't change the default settings if your avatar would be above 300MB

[vale cove]

Have never had this happen before! My avatar gets put upwards in playmode? No, it's not GoGoLoco and the fbx's preview is grounded, so I'm unsure on why this would be happening.

Any ideas?

[wispy spear]

Try checking the rig

?

Idk gang im trying

😭🙏

[stray scroll]

can someone help me i bought a avatar but idk how to transfer it to my vr fbt but i just got a vr btw so its kinda hard lol

[junior void]

You dont "transfer it to vr". You upload it from unity.

That requires a pc

[sly lodge]

all the avatars that use the humanoid rig are vr compatible, but first you should enable the OSC settings in vrchat

[junior void]

I dont understand what osc has to do with it but ok

[sly lodge]

if you have FBT, it uses OSC to rotate your avatar bones in the game

but it can be used for way more things than that

[junior void]

Thats news to me and i had fbt before

[ornate stump]

FBT can be controlled by osc. But FTB that's a part of steamvr doesn't need osc.

[sly lodge]

ah, I didn't know that, i have slimevr

[subtle sigil]

hello, i keep getting the warning that the avatar is too short and the origin is beneath the feet

[junior void]

That makes sense. I had tundras via steamvr but my slimes are on the way

[ornate stump]

I also have slimevr connected via steamvr.

[junior void]

So nothing will change for me then since im gonna stick with steam, sweet

[sly lodge]

ah, so maybe my slimes works without osc? i haven't tested it

[junior void]

Im worried about slimes response time x.x we will see

[sly lodge]

did you order the official ones?

[junior void]

Yea

[stray scroll]

sorry for asking for alot is there anyone that can hop in a call with me that i can pay to help me setup this vr stuff and get my character?

[sly lodge]

because I built it myself, but they aren't that great, they have like 5-10 min reset time (with BMI270 IMU). on the official site they are selling imus with bno085, but I saw that you can get even lms6dsv that has the same reset time or even better, and you could just order it for half the price i think from chinese pcb makers

so I don't really think it's worth to buy official slimes, they even hiding the fact that there are better IMUs that exists

[spark walrus]

Hey..uh...I have a problem on my avatar if anyone can help

[ornate stump]

<@&397642795457970181> Spam bot

[subtle sigil]

hello, i keep getting the warning that the avatar is too short and the origin is beneath the feet plz

no matter what i do i can't get it to work

[north obsidian]

Soooo, um an I got avatar spawned in like that with them all being separate, how do I make them into one common avatar with toggles ? I've been strugglingggg

[ornate stump]

Did you edit avatar in blender?

[subtle sigil]

yes

[ornate stump]

Make sure that your model's feet are at world zero, then use command "apply transform > position".

[ornate stump]

You will have to elaborate the problem.

[subtle sigil]

that worked! thank you so much!!!

i was almost jumping out the window

[static cipher]

bump 3: and knuckles

[somber sequoia]

you don't need OSC for this except for standalone quest.

[subtle sigil]

Btw, It says i have like a bazilion polygons but the model has less than 70k

[ornate stump]

If it show 2 billions polygon, then enable mesh read/write.

[subtle sigil]

where do i do that 👀

[ornate stump]

Does it show Autofix button in the sdk?

[subtle sigil]

nop

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot to confirm?

[ornate stump]

Then you will have to find the fbx file and enable Mesh read/write option in the file import settings.

[subtle sigil]

got it! thanks!

[scenic comet]

Is there a good shader to use for emission meant for android and pc? I've been using the Poiyomi shader for a thing where my little computer character's screen lights up depending on my voice level and i wanted to check if there's a shader that can use emission + emission map

[somber sequoia]

possibly you can grow this window horizontally and it'll show the button

[ornate stump]

It should show the fix button in the same column as Select button, and it should show error item for it too, which it didn't.

[somber sequoia]

very weird.

[ornate stump]

It might be some mesh asset that isn't an imported asset.

[scenic comet]

wait

standard has emmision 😭

[subtle sigil]

how can i test physbones?

whenever i go into play mode this is all i see

and can't do anything

[broken bone]

Switch to scene tab, and grab the root and move it around

game tab lets you grab your physbones with a mouse click, but you can't grab objects. You'll need to reposition the main camera in your scene if you want it to be closer

if you use Gesture Manager, you can tell it to sync your game camera with your scene camera so you don't have to fiddle with it

[subtle sigil]

oohhh thank you!!

[static cipher]

So, I'm trying to make a toggle for an arm, and Toggle Creator https://shatteredfur.gumroad.com/l/vrctoggle isn't adding the toggle correctly. Are parts of the Armature not meant to be toggled or something?

[subtle sigil]

do i need to have a single eyelid mesh for blinking?

only one eyelid moves

[somber sequoia]

yeah don't toggle humanoid bones. You can toggle mesh on and off though, or hide it in various ways.

[somber sequoia]

yes

[static cipher]

Oh, wait- so are you able to hide a PART of a mesh, or do you hide the whole thing entirely?

[subtle sigil]

is there a way to join them in unity or do i have to scrap everything and go back to blender?

[somber sequoia]

Blender!

[subtle sigil]

thanks!

[somber sequoia]

Sure, you can do tricks with shaders to hide parts. UV tile discarding, transparency, etc. Or you can use blendshapes. But you can't just toggle parts on and off unless they're separate game objects in Unity.

[static cipher]

wait, transparent textures work???

[junior void]

On pc, yes. On quest, no.

[static cipher]

Ah, cuz it didn't even work for me on PC (i probably imported it as a non-transparent image on accident then, but oh well)

So, how would I start with blendshapes?

[mossy swan]

...Yeeees?

[somber sequoia]

Edit mesh. create new shape key. Select vertices to hide. Scale to 0. Move bundle of vertices somewhere it won't be seen (remembering that it'll still move with the armature if weight painted).

[pure phoenix]

should I be worried?

[ornate stump]

usually no.

[pure phoenix]

okay

[wispy spear]

They just get sleepy sometimes lmao

[mossy swan]

Question about animator parameters by the way: any way for me to do some maths with the parameters?

2D directional does NOT like 1>x>0 and 1>y>0

It seems to prefer 1>x>-1, 1>y>-1

Okay nevermind, cartesian freeform likes it

[static cipher]

Trying to add a Blendshape to my avatar, and I've got it toggleable (finally!), but the issue is it looks really weird when not in a T-pose. (I'm trying to make the arms go from the outside to all the way inside and very small.) Anyone know what's wrong here?

[somber sequoia]

the bones have influence on those vertices, where you put them via blendshape doesn't mean that's exactly where they'll be, you probably will have to lock the bones in a pose (in action or gesture layers).
It may be easier to just separate the mesh into an object you can disable.

[static cipher]

Ah- so there's no way to like, make the arms have a size of 0 via the Blendshape?

[somber sequoia]

sure there is, but the bones will still move those vertices

[static cipher]

ah

So wait then, how would I separate the mesh but keep it linked to the armature?

[somber sequoia]

in edit mode, select parts, 'p' to "part" them out into their own object. If that object has an armature modifier and is a child of the armature itself, it'll be linked.

scammers really need to quit trying to friend me. I'm on to you.

[static cipher]

Aight it seems to be

[static cipher]

So, what now

[somber sequoia]

?

[static cipher]

I've de-attached it into its own object, should it work as intended once I export?

Nvm I meant, how do I make it hide on a toggle

[somber sequoia]

you can turn on/off individual objects in Unity, sure.

Remember this method means more draw calls.... each object + material slot is a draw call

[static cipher]

Waiiiiiit- how do I get the arms to be next to the body in the Hierarchhy, cuz the arms aren't in the Hierarchy yet

[somber sequoia]

did you export them along with the rest of the avatar?

[static cipher]

Yes, but this is what shows in the package

[somber sequoia]

did you unpack the avatar prefab after dragging it into the hierarchy?

[static cipher]

uhhhh- don't know, but i've modified what the prefab was when i had the files and the changes applied

[somber sequoia]

is it blue or grey in the hierarchy?

[static cipher]

idk what part ur asking is blue or grey, so here's a screenshot

[somber sequoia]

that's blue, therefore "SlugcatPrefab" is not unpacked

[static cipher]

So do I do this?

[somber sequoia]

though if the avatar is inside a separate prefab this might get weird. I'd drag a new avatar into there and see what that looks like.

I never said you should unpack anything.

[static cipher]

uhh-

okay dw i havent done it yet

[static cipher]

So I should drag the package from my Assets (shown in the package thing) into the scene?

[somber sequoia]

I'd drag the avatar, as in the actual .fbx file, into the hierarchy and see what it looks like, it probably has the separated arms

[runic ether]

hey there, I'm running into a weird situation where when I try to make an animation of a key turning only on the Y axis, it doesn't record the movement right. I looked at the curve and it seems like both Z and Y do the same movement for some weird reason and I don't know how to fix it.

[glass valley]

has anyone got the new avatar pose system by zero factory idk how to get it to work i can't read the instructions TvT

[static cipher]

Seems to!

[somber sequoia]

oh very good

so not sure what's up with that prefab, might be something weird the creator did

[static cipher]

So, do I somehow just copy the arms over or smth?

[somber sequoia]

I'd build the avatar fresh from this new object, this way you can update it with blender.

[static cipher]

dang- how do I get the physbones and overrides to transfer then?

[somber sequoia]

pumkin's tools can help for some things. For your physbones, you seem to have them under their own object, which is excellent - just move that then drag the appropriate bones from the new avatar into the target transform slots.

[left gull]

it looks like you're missing scripts the prefab is dependant on

[runic ether]

anyone know the solution to this?

I've posted this a while ago here before but I kinda got overlooked

[static cipher]

@runic ether they literally just gave a solution

[runic ether]

oh

[left gull]

no i didnt?

i replied to a diff user?

[runic ether]

yeah that's a response to someone else

[static cipher]

oh sorry im dumb

[runic ether]

no worries

I'm still looking to fix that weird problem though

I'm doing a quick OBS recording of what the curves look like when I move it around

it's really bizarre, maybe the video helps

I don't know why they're both effecting the same axis

[static cipher]

Maybe there's something somewhere that's linking them together? I have no idea what could be doing it but there's probably SOMETHING that's doing this elsewhere

[mossy swan]

A bump for this? Still dunno what the malfunction is

[glass valley]

I'm not sure we're the scripts are in the package

I couldn't read the instructions or get them translated properly

[static cipher]

So wait, how do I lock the arms in a specific position? That'd probably be much better even WITHOUT the arm scaling, since the arms basically disappear when facing directly down

[somber sequoia]

VRC Animator Tracking Control in Gesture or Action layers

set them to "animated" then optionally animate them

[static cipher]

wait where? are you talking about the Animator

[somber sequoia]

yes, in the animator

[static cipher]

cuz i have two animations that toggle between one another already

[left gull]

they're likely not part of the package and something you need to download/pay for seperately, what were you using to translate it?

[static cipher]

What property in the animation tab do I use to make it lock in place?

[somber sequoia]

.... #avatar-help message

[static cipher]

So AFTER i've locked the Left/Right Hands and Fingers (there were no arms options), do I just modify the rotation of the Armature in my animation?

[glass valley]

so far havent found anything to help me translate the whole text

[somber sequoia]

mark them "animated" then feel free to animate them

they won't be affected by player IK while in animated mode (i.e. the player can't move them)

[worthy urchin]

well i seem to have figured out why my aim constraint isn't activating when i grab. all my transitions vanished in my animation controller!

when i try to re-add the parameter though i just get "parameter does not exist in controller". what am i missing?

[left gull]

you could try https://www.deepl.com/en/translator it works pretty alright for getting a basic idea of what the text actually says though some unity specific words it struggles with

[worthy urchin]

i'm trying to use the vrc left hanc gesture set to fist (1 IIRC) as my trigger condition

[static cipher]

Done, but it seems to keep reverting the Rotation.z whenever I attempt to set it. Here's a screenshot:

[worthy urchin]

GestureLeft i think it's called

[somber sequoia]

You can't work with parameters not listed in the animation controller's variables list. Add the ones you need.

[glass valley]

thank u very much

[somber sequoia]

not sure how you're doing this, but you can't directly rotate the bone, you have to use the objects in the animator to move the humanoid skeleton, I'm not sure how best to describe it

[worthy urchin]

got it, that seems to have been vaporized too. i'll re-add it

[static cipher]

You mean like one of these?

[somber sequoia]

those

[glass valley]

okay so i dont see anything about the missing scripts

[left gull]

what does the store/download page say?

[static cipher]

soooo, i assume i just use a bunch of those to make the arms face similarly to the t-pose?

[worthy urchin]

hmm it's still not turning on the aim controller when i grab. what am i missing?

[misty laurel]

the avatar I recently bought has smooth transition on the facial expressions, how do I remove it and make it immediately snap?

[somber sequoia]

Decrease the animation transition time, most likely.

[misty laurel]

is this a joke answer? obviously I don't know where to do that

[somber sequoia]

No - I don't know what you do or don't know.

[misty laurel]

thanks for the help bud

[junior void]

Why so snappy

[spark walrus]

can i dm you

[somber sequoia]

yeah dunno.

[misty laurel]

who's being snappy? I thought I was in an avatar-help channel asking for help, and this dude gives the most 4head answer there is

[ornate stump]

No.

[somber sequoia]

That's a perfectly reasonable answer to your question. How would I know that you require hand-holding if you don't say so?

[spark walrus]

for the problem i ment

[junior void]

He gave you a good answer

[misty laurel]

man you guys are some special cases aren't you

[ornate stump]

I prefer to answer in public channel.

[static cipher]

okay both of yall chill, i understand that ppl need elaboration sometimes and it's hard to get that elaboration too

[junior void]

Yes, we are the problem

[somber sequoia]

I mean, you could ask me to elaborate further. I would have been happy to if you didn't bring the attitude.

[static cipher]

maybe yall can try making a forum in #1139216499123437668? It's 1 on 1 talking, and it's public

[misty laurel]

the avatar I recently bought has smooth transition on the facial expressions, where do I find where to decrease the transition time to make it snappy? does that make the question any more clearer?

[ornate stump]

That works too.

[spark walrus]

ok so heres the problem il describe it like i did to the other user help channel Now il describe it as clear as possible
Basically what happens is that my avatar has a PC and Quest version
Now on quest version the avatar works like a charm hands move everything seems fine on the PC version my right hand remains stuck! Basically wheni grab a prop from my inventory it and then deselect it the hand remains suck in the animation of grabbing the object and I can't move the fingers or hand whatsoever, I wanna note also that I added gogo loco yo the avatar, I would appreciate if anyone can tell me if that's the problem of my avatar, Is worth mentioning that the problem occurs only on the right hand while the left hand works just fine...
Moreover on unity the hand appears stuck the same way as in-game...

[junior void]

At least it tells us you dont know how to get to the animator to do that

[subtle sigil]

i can't change the Y value for the aabb

[ornate stump]

Sounds like there are layer masks in FX layers. All layer mask in FX has to be removed.

[misty laurel]

are you here to yap or are you here to help? this is the avatar help channel

[static cipher]

1. click the prefab that you have in the Hierarchy
2. under inspector, look for Animator > Controller
3. click the thing that is next to that
4. double click the thing in the right side of the project that it tells you to

[spark walrus]

is layer mask fx in the inspector tab prefab ot the model itself

[junior void]

I help out here quite regularly lately

[somber sequoia]

@junior void I guess we know where we stand on this

[static cipher]

5. in the animator tab that just showed up, look under the parameters sub-tab and send a screenshot for what it looks like, i may ask for more clarification later

[ornate stump]

Layer mask on the layer in animator controller.

[junior void]

Yep

[spark walrus]

somwhere around there right

[static cipher]

ima be fr, im gonna take both sides on this issue, cuz on one hand yes cass you got a lil bit snappy there, but kazin/zero, it's kind of best to assume the experience of someone is low until proven otherwise

[subtle sigil]

the minimum Y value for the aabb is 6.19, it won't go any lower no matter what number i put

[ornate stump]

You are looking at gesture layer animator controller.

[misty laurel]

double click the what sorry? I'm following you to step 3, but it just brings up a list of all the animation controllers that are in the project

[spark walrus]

is that where i have to go?

[ornate stump]

No. You have to look in FX file.

[misty laurel]

nah I'm generally really nice, but when somebody tells me "just make it shorter" when I'm clearly asking HOW to do that, I have no patience for kids trying to be funny

[static cipher]

Click the equivalent to the FX Slug on my screenshot

[somber sequoia]

I'm not going to waist everyone's time explaining every thing from the very beginning every time. Usually we engage in polite social discourse and one asks for elaboration if one doesn't understand something.

[static cipher]

mate, i have been in way too many situations where i'm asking for help on a discord channel, whether it this one or an even less professional one, and lemme tell you, basically nobody tries to joke around and mislead ppl by purposely not elaborating first. see kazin's most recent reply to me for reference

[misty laurel]

there's just "none" under controller

[spark walrus]

ok i clicked on the fx

[somber sequoia]

not a kid, but it wasn't clear that you knew what needed doing from your question. I told you clearly what to do - that would have been enough for some to go on, and again, I'd have been happy to elaborate if you'd just asked.

[spark walrus]

this tabs poped up

now i suppose i need to look something

on the guns sector

[static cipher]

ohhhh, then i bet you that you can click the one down here instead

[somber sequoia]

but as you said, this is avatar help and not social debate, so I'll stop here.

[misty laurel]

brother if you're not here to help, go away

jesus christ

[somber sequoia]

haha

[ornate stump]

There is no layer mask which should be correct. But you check in gesture layer again. Suspecting the layer mask in Gun layer is doing something.

[misty laurel]

okay yeah there's an FX layer there,

[spark walrus]

gesture layer is the one i was before right

like before the fx

layer

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[spark walrus]

thats how it shows up

on guns

[misty laurel]

@static cipher what did you want to see in the parameters sub menu?

[ornate stump]

Check the content of layer mask. Click the cogwheel.

[spark walrus]

cogwheel?

[somber sequoia]

gear, settings icon, etc.

[spark walrus]

sorry i aint english native speaker whats that

oh

ok

[static cipher]

basically a screenshot of the stuff on each sub-sub-tab like this

[misty laurel]

right hand gestures

[winged kiln]

anyone know what tf is causing this

[ornate stump]

What does that layer do?

[misty laurel]

oh hold up, is this it?

[static cipher]

dw about that part for now

[spark walrus]

its the right hands mask connected to the guns

that makes em shoot

[prisma haven]

Hi, I was looking for someone who would like to collaborate with me on a project.

Not sure if this is the spot, but I ported over the OpenAI realtime API to unity and I really want to do a cool demo, but I’m terrible at avatar stuff.

Basically, the AI will call whatever functions or triggers it wants. I.e we can give a walk here, wave, jump, frown etc method.

I’ve got an audio output too so if we have an audio source that I can point out to Control lip syncing that would be awesome too. That’s really the magic of the RealTime stuff.

[ornate stump]

What are the animations in that layer controlling?

Is it controlling the right hand pose?

[static cipher]

This is the troubleshooting zone, not the picking up fellow devs zone, sorry

[somber sequoia]

you can't run custom scripts on an avatar though... how would this work?

[spark walrus]

it says mask vrc hand right

[spark walrus]

blending override

[runic ether]

I'm sorry, I don't want to be annoying about it but I can't find anyone else having the same issue with any solutions

[spark walrus]

weight 1

[solemn tangle]

yeah, i tried to put both animations in the same layer like the guy said and now camo didn't work

[ornate stump]

Yes I can read. I'm asking what are the animations in that layer do?

[misty laurel]

okay... so what do I do with it. I mean I can clearly see the smoothing between transitions. this is not where I can delete it and just make it go from 0 to 1?

[spark walrus]

this is the gun layer

[static cipher]

So you're saying that you want the hands' animations to be choppy and quick? I thought you were going for the facial expression animations to do that

[misty laurel]

no sorry, the facial expressions that are tied to the hand gestures, yes

[static cipher]

sorry vrchat bot

[misty laurel]

D:

don't yell at me

[static cipher]

Ohhhhh, I get it

[ornate stump]

Let me reword the question: what are that layer is for, why does that layer exist?

[spark walrus]

for guns to shoot

[spark walrus]

from right hand

[misty laurel]

yeah like the tongue out expression is looking goofy, the tongue spawns instantly, but the lips are slowly opening so the tongue is clipping through the bottom lip for a second

[static cipher]

Yeah, then I think that right side IS where you can manipulate the speed of the animations

[misty laurel]

and I'm just not used to having smooth facial expressions

but apparently the avatar creator likes it that way

[ornate stump]

Are you sure that it's for gun shooting? Because particle effect should be controlled in FX layer, not gesture layer.

[static cipher]

You can probably then drag those blue bars on the timeline-looking thing closer together to get the effect you're looking for

[spark walrus]

the graphic says "gun hand shoot" so i suppose is for that

[ornate stump]

Are you sure that it isn't for right hand to pose for gun holding animation?

[misty laurel]

ok yeah, I was confused as to why you told me not to worry about it but now we're on the same page hahaha, thank you for the help :)

[static cipher]

Yah anytime, feel free to reach out again if you have any more issues

[spark walrus]

when i click on gun hand shoot

on the right

those are the parameters

[ornate stump]

You will have to inspect the content of the animation.

[spark walrus]

how do i do that?

[bright silo]

iirc the default rotation values are in relation to the parent object's orientation. As such with the -90x difference it starts with, it's trying to get from orientation A to orientation B as fast as it can and spinning in this unintended way seems to be that. You can either fight with the curves and try to force the Y-axis spin offsetting to the other axis or you could perhaps try giving this bones a 'Root' bone that has the exact same orientation.

[ornate stump]

See the motion slot, that's the animation, see what content show in animation tab.

[ornate stump]

It's controling hand pose. That mean that layer override the actual animation from gesture controlled layer.

[spark walrus]

which this means??...

[ornate stump]

It stop your hand from reacting to gesture.

[spark walrus]

so basically the problem im having?

[ornate stump]

Most likely.

[spark walrus]

how to i make it so it doesnt bug

[ornate stump]

Probably add AnimatorLayerControl state behaviour to control the layer weight.

When gun off, set layer weight 0, when gun on, set layer weight 1.

[spark walrus]

how do i add a animatorlayer control?

[ornate stump]

"Add Behaviour"

[spark walrus]

so what now

[ornate stump]

It should be quiet obvious.

[spark walrus]

gesture

[ornate stump]

And layer is number start from base layer 0.

Count to your Gun layer.

[spark walrus]

what if zoom doesnt work anymore

it became super slow even though I set it to 2x

like that right

[ornate stump]

How did you count the layer?

[static cipher]

Okay, I have an animation that I want to constantly play with a toggle. How do I make a state do this?

[spark walrus]

?

[ornate stump]

And layer is number start from base layer 0. Count to your Gun layer.

[spark walrus]

my model is invisible

cant see it

how do I clear hidden in blender?

[spark walrus]

you mean this

it is actually not hiddne weird

[ornate stump]

No.

[ornate stump]

Layer list in animator controller.

[spark walrus]

4

i see nothin

all parts