avatar-help

[simple ocean]

nah i havent

[ornate stump]

That's why.

[spark walrus]

what does shader cloth do

why use it>?
for what?

[ornate stump]

For cloth.

[spark walrus]

how is it different from realistic shader?

[ornate stump]

Probably had subsurface scattering preconfigured. Try checking the documents.

[spark walrus]

I did checkl it

i dont understand it

https://www.poiyomi.com/shading/main#cloth

need to see it in a v ideo

to know what effects they have

[simple ocean]

wheres the option for physbone radius? im confused

[spark walrus]

and what is surface scattering>?

[ornate stump]

You could change to this option and compare it by yourself.

[spark walrus]

i didnt see any difference

[ornate stump]

It literally written "Radius" in physbone settings.

[lime lagoon]

@ornate stump got to go to bed but so far so good need to copy past fingers and arms etc

[spark walrus]

how can i change shading on multiple materials at once?

[ornate stump]

You don't need to update me.

[lime lagoon]

ok

[simple ocean]

thanks guys

[spark walrus]

Feels like I am asking a question on stackoverflow here xD

[lime lagoon]

just thanking you for all the help

[junior void]

You will see a gizmo come up. Set it to a size that makes sense

[ornate stump]

By selecting multiple materials at once. Given all the selected materials are using the same shader.

[spark walrus]

I see

good

[long sierra]

If I wanted to make an animator controller for Klonoa's ears that worked for all of the other layers, I'd make a controller that had a layer for all of the other controllers (Locomotion, idle, gesture, etc), and put it in FX, correct?

Or would it all be on one layer?

[teal field]

an item of clothing has disappeared when i take the avatar into unity but its in blender. It has turned invisible how can i fix it

[somber sequoia]

probably an issue with the material

[mild solar]

i have sdk imported through vcc but i don’t see these anywhere in my project. how do i get these fx layers ?

[lofty field]

anyone know if u can get more parameters or a way to solve it since I only have two assets on my avatar but theyre both pretty big

[junior void]

you will have to optimize parameters or get rid of some

[somber sequoia]

they're in Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Samples/AV3 Demo Assets/Animation/Controllers

(I simply did a find for HandsLayer)

[mild solar]

thank you idk why it didn’t show for me when i searched hand/hands

[long sierra]

So my avatar's eyes don't have visible irises in the gesture manager, even though when I preview the eyelook, it looks fine

[frozen sage]

hey guys, i'm having some trouble with my avatar's hands. if you move them a part of the clothing will move with it. i know what i need to do (detach those polygons from the "hand" object so it aint gonna move with it) but idk how and where i can do this inside unity. if ya guys have a tutorial about this that would also be very helpful! ty!

[somber sequoia]

looks like weight painting issues to me

[frozen sage]

hmm, what does that imply?

[somber sequoia]

bring it into blender and fix the weight painting

[frozen sage]

oh blender, gotcha. ty! ill try to figure things out since it has been a while lol😅

i'm just puzzled bc the clothing and the skin are different parts you can enable and disable. but there is probably something telling the clothing that it has to move with it forsome reason

[somber sequoia]

yes - weight painting. That's what links mesh to bones

[quasi briar]

Clothes attach to the bones via weight painting only

[frozen sage]

ah oki. thank yall!

[long sierra]

Another issue I'm having is the idle pose, his feet are supposed to be posed like this:

But when I stop walking, I get this:

his eyes also are wonky, they are rolled at a weird direction even though it looks fine in the eyelook preview and the eye bones have no roll
EDIT: The eyes look fine in game!

[rancid anvil]

is it possible to have a world constraint object scale with the player or have a scale wheel for it?

[spark walrus]

How do i fix this

[long sierra]

Settings for my idle animation

Settings for my idle animation controller

[primal forum]

Maybe your animation switch to the empty bloc, do you have an animation on it ?

[long sierra]

No, bc the default idle didn't\

[oak vector]

hey i have a problem with the vrc constraints, when i toggle freeze in world it doesnt freeze in the postion it was in but instead it puts it back into the postion it was on on the base avatar before it was positioned with a constrained

[dark jay]

Struggling to fix this can someone help me please

[somber sequoia]

Please, people, describe your "this" when asking for help fixing things, we probably don't know what it's supposed to look like.

[dark jay]

The body weights or look at the outfit

Struggling to fix that

[somber sequoia]

okay but what are these images showing? is one unposed and the other posed?

is one in blender vs. unity? editor vs. play mode?

[dark jay]

https://vrchat.com/home/avatar/avtr_ebf4c4e0-c256-4de8-a931-d91d4d3a03f5 this is how its supposed to be

[dark jay]

All in blender

Both posed bent foreward

[somber sequoia]

I guess "weight paint better" but I'm not really sure

[long sierra]

What's going on with his legs here?

[dark jay]

Im asking for help as im struggling to do it

[ornate stump]

Help as in having someone fix it for you?

[quartz yacht]

In blender, I need to make blendshapes for my avi's face tracking. However it also has a bunch of cosmetics on the face area that need to follow (eg: beard and mustache.) Is there a way in Blender to bind them to vertices?

[dark jay]

fix/check it

[somber sequoia]

what are they? mesh?

sorry @quartz yacht that was for you

[quartz yacht]

actually, if there isn't an easier way, I'll just merge the armatures to the head and do it that way

and yeah the mustache/beard is a separate mesh

[somber sequoia]

why would those have separate armatures?

[quartz yacht]

it's the tf2 characters lol. this face cosmetic here is gonna be the hardest

[somber sequoia]

but yeah, I'd just either join the meshes or edit both at the same time.

[quartz yacht]

yeah sounds good. I'll just merge them to make it easiest on me

[dark jay]

if possible

[dark jay]

First time having the issue

Or something as bad

[ornate stump]

I can't fix it for you.

[dark jay]

Ah do u know who could help

[ornate stump]

I do not.

[dark jay]

Ok

[dark jay]

Could u help

[long sierra]

Can someone please help me?

[ornate stump]

Better don't ping people who didn't answer your initial question. It likely means they can't help you.

[somber sequoia]

I don't even see what the problem is from what you've shown, all I've got is "do better weight painting"

[long sierra]

I also noticed that Klonoa jitters as if he's having an anxiety attack and his knees clatter together a bit

it's not a bone roll issue, I checked and the bone rolls are all at 0

[somber sequoia]

and yeah, I've said this a few times, but please don't ping me asking for help

[dark jay]

The body issues i want someone to help me fix it i dont mind paying

[long sierra]

I didn't ping anyone O_o

[ornate stump]

They didn't refer to you.

[long sierra]

I wasn't sure since they replied right after me

How do I fix the issue in the video I posted? There's nothing wrong with the bone rolls

[ornate stump]

You could try disable Auto Footstep option in avatar descriptor.

[long sierra]

What is auto-footstep for, anyway? making the character's feet align when walking up slopes? /genq

That worked! Thank you! Though he still twitches a bit

[ornate stump]

To fake player actual foot movement when moving within playspace.

It's for VR.

[long sierra]

He still sits down in the air though

but with his feet in front instead of crunched up

[pulsar trout]

Hey guys, hopefully just a small thing but I'm having problems with physbone limiters. Maybe I'm just doing it wrong but they still keep going through my avatar's body

[ornate stump]

You will have to screenshot your settings and bone gizmos from different angle.

[pulsar trout]

The skirt is driving me crazy

[ornate stump]

Also screenshot when not moving.

[ornate stump]

Increase rotation more so there is no room for bones to bend inside.

[somber sequoia]

okay but that isn't me

[rocky axle]

anyone know where to get good Combat Particles? besides Booth?

[mossy swan]

And exactly how is VRC measuring this?

[junior void]

Armature iirc

[mossy swan]

From what bone to what bone?

How is it measuring this? Moving the armature around doesn't make it happy

So what the hell is its problem?

[somber sequoia]

ground to shoulder height

[junior void]

^

[somber sequoia]

or well, avatar origin

[junior void]

I was gonna say origin

[somber sequoia]

yeah but when you get your avatar stuck in "bike pose" it says it's too short, so I suspect it's world origin, not avatar.

[junior void]

Moving the armature keeps the origin relative so thats why that dont help

[somber sequoia]

ah I think that's because if you move the armature it'll just be put back at the origin

[mossy swan]

Its not in the bike pose, but it doesn't follow human proportions, so the bones are placed in strange places

And I need to fool it into cooperating.

[somber sequoia]

you may have to setup a humanoid armature if you want it to work humanoid, and use rotation constraints for your actual bones

[mossy swan]

Its configured as a humanoid armature. But I worry I will not be able to grab things if the bones are in the wrong place.
Alright, I have fooled it into cooperating by moving the avatar origin and then just translating the avatar down.

[red mesa]

I want to attach a pair of horns to an avatar, but I don't know how to go about making it so they move with the head. May I ask how to do so? (The avatar is a Zurg.)

[young matrix]

that looks like it might be a weight paint issue unless you attached the clothing specifically in unity

[young matrix]

if its just a simple prefab expand you armature until you see the head armature in ur avatar and drag the armature from the horns there

[junior void]

If it has one

[young matrix]

if it doesnt u can just put the whole object on the head armature

[gilded osprey]

hi, I dont know if this is the right place to ask this. but ive been making my avatar with creator companion and this will not go away

[young matrix]

do you use the latest version of sdk?

[gilded osprey]

I should, I installed yesterday

[young matrix]

go to vrsdk in unity on the tab, and press show splash screen that might work

[gilded osprey]

its still there

[young matrix]

i just opened my splash screen and when i click on it and press esc it went away

[red mesa]

Thanks! Not sure why it didn't work before, it's perfect now!

[young matrix]

no problem!

[gilded osprey]

im doin that and its not working

maybe should I reinstall it?

[young matrix]

umm well u should also see a exit button on it but its just to far off your monitor

[gilded osprey]

I guess, the picture I sent is as high up as I can go

[young matrix]

do u have more than 1 monitor

[gilded osprey]

no

[young matrix]

\

try that

[gilded osprey]

it only moves my unity tab, not the sdk thing

[young matrix]

ya idk then

[fallow mirage]

try reset the workspace to default

[gilded osprey]

how do I do that?

[young matrix]

last thing, try pressing alt+Enter or F11

[fallow mirage]

top right

[gilded osprey]

AH!

it worked!

[young matrix]

W

[gilded osprey]

sigma

[muted timber]

i fell asleep yesterday but basically my vroid avatar doesnt have a fist or open hand gesture in default fx

[somber sequoia]

simple enough to add them

[young matrix]

u can make one and throw it in there it will work fine

just make sure u number it accordingly in the animator

[gilded osprey]

Oh! does anyone know why my avatar is saying it has like 20,000,000,000 triangles?

[muted timber]

i tried adding the fist and open hand manually a few times but it was weird, it was flickering or something, ill try to get a video

[young matrix]

😳

[somber sequoia]

turn on read/write on the .FBX file in the first tab of the inspector

[gilded osprey]

sorry im very new to this, can you simple that down 😄

[somber sequoia]

Click the model file, look in the inspector window, it's a checkbox in the first tab.

[gilded osprey]

whats the inspector window?

how do I get to that

[somber sequoia]

Watch basic Unity tutorials

[red mesa]

Did I do something wrong with the materials here? The eyes won't show up in-game (Zurg again)

[somber sequoia]

one of the window panes in Unity is entitled "Inspector"

you can see it in this image ^

[gilded osprey]

where do I click?

[somber sequoia]

read what I said, you didn't do the first step

[muted timber]

her face is twitching

[junior void]

Turn on loop pose on the animation?

[gilded osprey]

I clicked on my mesh file and im in the inspector tab am I not?

[muted timber]

just tried it and it didnt work unfortunately

also this is what setting i have the transition on

[somber sequoia]

That looks like you clicked the avatar in the hierarchy, not the model file in the project window.

[junior void]

Can transition to self is ticked?

[gilded osprey]

I clicked the right thing right?

[junior void]

Just guessing tho, i never use that

[somber sequoia]

upper-right corner, your inspector window is locked. Unlock it so it updates.

[gilded osprey]

is this what its supposed to look like now?

[somber sequoia]

That seems to be a mesh object, not a FBX model file

[gilded osprey]

how do I get to my FBX model file?

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what it'd be named in your project

[muted timber]

even when turned off she still twitches

[gilded osprey]

its named Crispy Curly.FBX

oh I found it

my read/write is on

I have a few other meshes and toggles, should I make sure they have read/write on too?

[somber sequoia]

Yes

[muted timber]

before, when i did a fist ingame, my character would do a happy expression which prompted me to want to change which expression she does. so now ive come to the conclusion that theres another FX or fist thats hidden somewhere

[junior void]

Id have to go into play mode and see all animation layers really

Like, as they happen, yk.

[long sierra]

My blend shape visemes aren't working for some reason even though they're set up again. O_o

[young matrix]

its not numbered correctly where it says its gesture and equals, the number next to that it says 2 u need to number that 0 if thats the first gesture u want then rename the other 1,2,3,4,5 ect

[young matrix]

click on none im pretty sure then click auto detect

[long sierra]

Didn't work

I had this issue last time and fixed it, but I don't remember how

[young matrix]

Drag and drop the mesh of your Avi onto it I'm pretty sure then manually set all the things to what they say

It should look like that when done

[long sierra]

Nope

[spark walrus]

IF I WANNA add a weapon to my avatar

do i need to do this in Blender or Unity?\

[young matrix]

Elaborate?

[long sierra]

Didn't work even after dragging the mesh in, and it auto-selected the shapekeys

[young matrix]

U can't select them yourself?

[long sierra]

I could but when I dragged the mesh in, the select boxes weren't empty, I can change them but it auto-imports them and lets me change them afterwards

[young matrix]

Ya so change them to what they need to be then

[long sierra]

they already are correct when imported

[young matrix]

Oh so then that's it it's good now

[long sierra]

but it still doesn't work

[young matrix]

Did you test it in game

[long sierra]

Yes. :/

[balmy barn]

turn this off or you will be hammering the state 10000's of times instead of once ( can transition to self ) , anyone that uses 'any state' should do that its set default on

[long sierra]

How would I know it didn't work if I hadn't?

[young matrix]

There are tools that let you see if it works

[gilded osprey]

with read/write still on for my FBX it still says I have too many triangles

[long sierra]

the blendshape sliders in unity work

[somber sequoia]

is it still a number around 2 million?

[gilded osprey]

yeah

over prob lol

[somber sequoia]

unless your model is completely insane, you probably missed one of the .fbx files

[young matrix]

U might need to delete th jaw flap bone in the rig, u can do it in unity you need to locate the file of the fbx and click the mesh. Once you do that you go to rig then there should be a calibrate button. Click head the see if there is a jaw flap bone then delete it

[long sierra]

Had something to do with animation controllers

[long sierra]

it doesn't have a jaw flap bone, I said it uses visemes.

[wanton cedar]

for some reason when i turned the materials to quest they turned black and nothing i do will reverse this change. Nothing is set to black, there are no black textures either. this is only using standard lite btw. I know it works with things like the matcap, but I want my normal maps

[young matrix]

Ok so does mine but when I made my Avi it had a jaw flap bone but it didn't work cuz it had one

[balmy barn]

bones can get assigned to jaw bone, can do funny things when you talk hair vibrate (one exsample)

[young matrix]

If u dont want to listen to my suggestions then don't ask for help lol

[long sierra]

Nope, it doesn't

[long sierra]

I did want help, but from my point of view, it sounded like you weren't even listening to me when I was describing what was wrong. I'm not trying to be rude, but it came across as someone who didn't know what they were talking about, but still trying to help me. I'm sorry that I interpreted it that way and I apologize for being annoyed about it, because you were only trying to help. /gen /npa

It was just a misunderstanding.

[young matrix]

My dude oml lol. I made a Avi yesterday and it had the same issue I was just telling u from my personal experience what solved my problem. Mine used the same stuff as urs lol

[long sierra]

oof

[muted timber]

update i fixed it. im about to THROW myself off of a building

[long sierra]

XD I guess the jaw bone is what was wrong on the other avatar that I fixed but forgot how

Once again, sorry for coming across condescending. /gen

[muted timber]

ll i had to do was delete the fx, just made a whole new one and manually put ALL of the gestures/expressions, and bam it finally worked

[young matrix]

Ur all good. Just remember to be patient that's all Avi stuff is

[muted timber]

: ' D

[raw plover]

none of the toggles on my avatar work, despite there being both a face mesh and an animator

[long sierra]

It's something with my FX layer

[north basalt]

how do you fix that?

[somber sequoia]

find it and set this setting correctly

[north basalt]

we tried that and it didn't do anything

[spark walrus]

add wepaon

in blender

or unity?

[long sierra]

It doesn't seem to be an issue with any of the layers in the FX controller because I tried weighting them to 0/deleting them one at a time, and not any one of them being gone/disabled fixed it

[spark walrus]

i want the weapon to just stick to the back of my avi

[long sierra]

None of my animations use visemes

So there's something in my FX controller that's causing it, but I have no idea what it is

[wanton cedar]

does anyone know if this matters at all?

for quest that is

[unreal pasture]

hello evbgeruv0odyu egrest ur nio work

i have gesture hand working but it doesnt do gace

[keen pollen]

Nah it only worked with one avatar, but after one is stopped working

[wild birch]

weird bug

[frozen sage]

Yea it indeed was, I fixed it tho!

[manic grove]

how do i fix this?

[tiny dock]

will this rig work?

it's very inconsistent

[foggy cedar]

it looks like it'll hit the requirements for a humanoid rig. just make sure the rig is configured right when you bring it into unity

[tiny dock]

got it

i've done a lot of humanoid rigs but none missing feet on one side and having arm bones on different height levels

[foggy cedar]

The solid circled are minimum needed, which seems like you have it all. position or asymmetry shouldn't be bad, but make sure everything is assigned right

[neat coral]

even in 2022 I dont think its working

also quest one is really lwo download so Idk

[long sierra]

I still don't get what's wrong with the visemes, they're defined, they function properly in Unity, but they don't work in game. And yes, I tested them, which is how I know they don't work in the first place. /npa

There is no jaw bone defined, and it fixes it when I remove my custom FX layer

but it doesn't seem that any specific layer in the FX controller is causing the issue, because I tried finding which one it was by deleting them one by one, and it didn't work no matter which one I deleted

[merry root]

Hi, I'm new here, Does anyone know how to fix an Issue where my Boots won't attach to the model properly ? I feel like I've tried everything to connect them so they follow the right movement of her legs but they always tend to be floating in front of the feet, not attached when I test them on Vrchat. It's a PAIR of shoes, they don't separate

I tried to attach everything to said roots too, but they still just don't wanna link up properly.

[young matrix]

If there is a heel blend shape you need to turn it to the opposite of what it is, assuming your working on a booth model anyways. So check ur Avi blendshapes and look for one that says heel

Should fix it I think

Lmk if it works

[young matrix]

Ooh I see your working on a manuka so ya there should be one

[merry root]

i know the heel shape to get rid of it , but my issue is the shoes don't attach

[young matrix]

Oh so u have to attach it to your armature

Did the shoes not come with a armature

We're these made specifically for manuka?

Cuz it's pretty rare for booth assets to be so finicky. I see ur problem now

It looks like u didn't attach the armature of the boots to the Avi at all actually

So you need to unpack the prefab, so right click the boots, then click unpack completly

Then drag the armature to the avi

So armature to armature, hips to hips, legs to legs ect ect

Unless I'm looking at the wrong thing lol

[merry root]

yeah, made for manuka and the other models, and yes armature. I tried to put them alleach in their spot . but it does this, I'll try it again but I have little hope

[young matrix]

Ya I'd say try it again, there is a tool that can put clothes on for u. So u could maybe try that if it doesn't work when you retry it

I'll try to find what the tool is called

[somber sequoia]

VRCFury, Avatar Dresser, I see they're using Modular, perhaps that

[merry root]

i have both vrc and modular

[night ember]

does the boots even have weightpainting

[young matrix]

Ya it is that

I've never heard of avatar modular

Interestinngg

[manic grove]

someone please help me with this i bought an avatar and wanna upload it😭

[young matrix]

I'll have to have a look at that lol

[somber sequoia]

Modular Avatar, it's interesting.

[young matrix]

U do a fresh install?

[manic grove]

yep

[somber sequoia]

feel free to ask questions

[lime lagoon]

@young matrix how do i copy the left side to the right

or right to the left

[young matrix]

Is it a seperate object?

[merry root]

getting somewhere but uhhhh not fully attached

[lime lagoon]

yes

[somber sequoia]

mirror modifier is pretty useful. Or just duplicate objects then mirror them

[lime lagoon]

how do i duplicate them?

[merry root]

this is everything that came with the boots

[young matrix]

If u go into edit mode click what u want to copy, press L so it selects the whole object then copy it and paste (ctrlC - ctrlV)

[lime lagoon]

ok ill try that

[somber sequoia]

click object, shift+d or alt+d - you probably want to watch a basic tutorial like The Donut Tutorial if you're asking questions like this.

[young matrix]

Ok I go back to work now I won't be able to answer anything else I sorry

[young matrix]

Ya or that. I'm not great with blender

[somber sequoia]

er... in Blender? Have you used it before? Because this is not true

[lime lagoon]

ya it is not pasting

[lime lagoon]

what should i do?

[young matrix]

Idk again I said I don't use it much lol

[merry root]

[somber sequoia]

I already said: #avatar-help message

[young matrix]

L selects everything in blender in edit mode

[somber sequoia]

no it doesn't

please stop giving wrong advice

[lime lagoon]

sorry missed that

[young matrix]

What it does look it up lol

[somber sequoia]

It selects everything linked

[young matrix]

I finished my Avi in blender yesterday lol

Ya exactly lol. I was saying everything for that object I didn't read that it was seperate when I sent it

[somber sequoia]

but it doesn't select "everything for an object"

'a' does that.

[lime lagoon]

thanks got more fingers

[merry root]

ughh

[lime lagoon]

what?

lol

[keen topaz]

0;p-0

[merry root]

my issue

its annoying I've been working on trying to fix these boots since earlier this morning 6am. I think I got it but I go to use animations and they still aren't properly connected.

[young matrix]

Idk again sorry I don't use it much lol. I was just saying what I was doing yesterday for mine cuz I had to delete stuff I couldn't select as it was apart of the avi. Apologies for the miss info on my part

[manic grove]

is anyone gonna be able to help me with this or am i on my own😔

[merry root]

reinstall?

firewall problem??

no idea on that one for VCC

[balmy plover]

in blender 4.1, the bones dont highlight on top of the mesh/material. how do i get them to show up ontop of everything else like in older versions?

[somber sequoia]

looks like a white screen... or the image doesn't load for me.

[manic grove]

yeah its a white screen

it happens when i open creator companion

[somber sequoia]

Either in the armature properties, there's a "in front" in "viewport display" or depending on the mode you're in, there's a checkbox in the view settings

[somber sequoia]

#creator-companion

[manic grove]

oh

[somber sequoia]

I don't use the thing, so I can't help.

[cedar grail]

anyone know why it says Failed when i try add a package to my Unity Project?

[merry root]

i give up

[lime lagoon]

do i need to restart if i did not do bones before i joined them? i did ctrl j

[young matrix]

I'd help more since I specialize more so in booth models but I'm working rn

[potent hare]

question is there a way to fix this?

[lime lagoon]

pic

[potent hare]

this is confusing for me

[somber sequoia]

fix what?

[young matrix]

If in not doing anything when I'm home I'll see if I can help a little more

[potent hare]

idk it just telling me the neck not owrking or something but this dont have a neck

idk how to bypass this

[somber sequoia]

iirc you need a neck

[potent hare]

idk if madness character have a neck

my model look like this

[left gull]

make one then

[potent hare]

i want to make it lore accurate

i dont think they have a neck

how do people that make similar avatar like this make it work?

[left gull]

nobody can see the bones though? and you can just have it as a empty bone

[potent hare]

oh

can i add it like in that editor or i need in blender?

[somber sequoia]

Blender

[merry root]

I just tried to connect each indiviual piece to each thing and that didn't work either, the shoes just went side ways lmfao.. I deleted them I'm not stressing over them no more

[lime lagoon]

do i need to restart if i did not do bones before i joined them? i did ctrl j
to get them joined only legs are not joined

[somber sequoia]

mesh joining has nothing to do with your armature - you can do it with the parts separate or merged doesn't matter

[lime lagoon]

this video that im watching says to name the stuff but i cant name only the head

like this

https://youtu.be/6WqCUdilzS8?si=xjvXQEEgQasaJXFY

[lime lagoon]

see i name this group and it name the body head

[potent hare]

how do i tell my avatar it in t-pose?

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what you're trying to do here

[lime lagoon]

nahh i found a video how to unjoin the parts (im trying to make the bone and bone weight

[mossy swan]

Uhm...question, which one should I use as reference for positioning the view position?

[somber sequoia]

what are we looking at?

[mossy swan]

That small dot down there is where unity says the view position is

The XYZ positioner is where the descriptor says the view position is.

And I've got cold feet about showing the avatar in full

I get crippling performance anxiety.

[long sierra]

I wanted to dismantle GoGoLoco to remove everything except the flight, but I cant' seem to figure out how to do it without destroying the animation

[night ember]

you would have an easier time just remaking the flight

[somber sequoia]

I looked into this at one point, it's pretty complex but definitely doable. Would I? No, I'd probably just re-implement the flight system myself, with that one as a reference. Have I? Not yet, still on the todo list 🙂

[arctic ginkgo]

Just only add the flight FX layer and the prefab. Remove any parameters not used by the FX layer, and if you want to use different parameters just rename them in the animator, the parameter list, and menus

It honestly wouldn't be too hard since the flight system is separate from most of the rest of gogo loco

[long sierra]

Will that keep the animation? I know there's a separate flight prefab :0

[arctic ginkgo]

Unless you're talking about the hovering thing, which honestly is easier to just recreate. It's just a blendtree that moves your height up and down with an additive animation and spams transitions between two animation states with temp pose space while you're changing it (so that your viewpoint moves smoothly)

[arctic ginkgo]

I don't believe there is a flight animation on gogo loco?

[long sierra]

I already have an FX layer so I'll need to merge it, right?

[arctic ginkgo]

Yeah you can do that with avatars 3.0 manager

[long sierra]

this pose

So I merge the GoGoLocoBeyondFX with my current FX layer, right?

[somber sequoia]

it's just the same as the hovering thing you described

[long sierra]

I think I'm only gonna need a single animation, maybe speed it up based on the flight speed

[trim lagoon]

How i duplicate materials in unity?

[night ember]

ctrl + d

[trim lagoon]

Tyy

[long sierra]

why's it grayed out?

nvm, figured it out, just needed to close and reopen it

Is the animation in GGL related to the flight in any way? Last tiem I tried replacing it, it didn't work IIRC

[mossy swan]

Damn, we are just on a roll today

[arctic ginkgo]

No, that is the flying I was describing (moving your player collider) this is the hovering

[arctic ginkgo]

@long sierra

This is how you would do it

Just use the pose from gogo loco as well

[long sierra]

so the hovering is just the animation and not the actual flight

[worn kiln]

you need to install ios module manually though Unity Hub

[long sierra]

So I could remove the animation and it'd act the same way?

[arctic ginkgo]

Yeah it's an additive animation to move your height with pose space being spammed

[long sierra]

Pose space?

I'm guessing the animation clips don't have any actual muscle/armature keyframes

[arctic ginkgo]

They do, they move into that pose+the height

[long sierra]

the animation glitches in the preview because I think the length doesn't line up with the custom anim

[elder pivot]

anyone know why my model looks like this when i import it to the editor

should look like this

[night ember]

blender materials dont transfer

[elder pivot]

damn

do i have the change them all?

[night ember]

you need to remake them in unity

[elder pivot]

gotcha

[elder pivot]

is there a way to quickly replace them with the remade versions?

[night ember]

why do you have so many

[elder pivot]

i had this model commissioned ;-;

[night ember]

that is an excessive amount for solid colors that can be made into a single material

[elder pivot]

the only ones i can see being merged are pink and nose

[night ember]

but just click on the fbx and go to materials tab and extract them

[night ember]

you can literally just make a texture and uv map stuff to the color

[elder pivot]

they only textured the eyes

but anyways they're all extracted

[night ember]

now just edit them

[elder pivot]

i don't really know much about unity material editing i think i just need to make them darker

[night ember]

also

a solid color texture would look something like this

[elder pivot]

hmm

are you sure i cant just change all the mats to be not as bright?

[night ember]

you can but having that many materials for just solid colors isnt great and just makes its automatically very poor

[elder pivot]

ok how's this for a texture

[night ember]

🤷‍♂️

[elder pivot]

ah

[night ember]

if it works it works

[elder pivot]

idk what i'm doin sorry 😭

[long sierra]

Tried this, didn't work

Correction: It works if I used the 2 axis up/down arrow thing

[elder pivot]

does it really matter if i don't plan on distributing the avatar

[mossy swan]

Everything needed for the SDK should already be installed, dunno what it wants.

[arctic ginkgo]

Yes like I said this wouldn't work

[worn kiln]

it says iOS module not installed which error said so worse check.
otherwise you better restart Unity.

[long sierra]

you just told me it would

[night ember]

I mean people would hide it by default

[long sierra]

It also makes my visemes not work

[arctic ginkgo]

I didn't know which "flight" you were talking about, I thought you were talking about the flying feature (moving your player collider), and once you clarified I corrected myself and told you how to do the other option (moving your avatar and viewpoint up, not your player collider)

[long sierra]

I mean the thing that lets your character... Fly around

exactly what I said

[elder pivot]

ah, then ig i've hit a roadblock cuz idk anything about unity mats :(

[long sierra]

Sorry if I took you literally

I wanted the entire flight option wheel to work with a custom animation, and also not interfere with my custom idle animation or the mouth visemes

[mossy swan]

Oh, seems like its not an option for platforms anymore? Doesn't Quest run on iOS?

[worn kiln]

no. it's separate

Quest be on android, iOS for Apple

[mossy swan]

Oh, well, it'll convert to android. But it seems like it also suddenly doesn't like poiyomishaders that way?

[long sierra]

and isn't the player collider just your avatar's hitbox?

The way I think most flying avatars work is placing a collider under the avatar for them to walk on, and making it invisible, not moving the avatar's hitbox

[night ember]

colliders dont have anything to render so you dont need to "make it invisible"

[worn kiln]

It's separate from android platform.
https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/iphone-BuildProcess.html

also poiyomi not supported for avatar project on android.

[mossy swan]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[mossy swan]

Anything poiyomi-like? The quest requirements are oppressive to say the least.

[worn kiln]

it works for world project but nor avatar project.

[mossy swan]

God damn these requirements are oppressive. I have zero options for emissives or rim lighting

[worn kiln]

Quest Avatar limitation be like....

[long sierra]

They create a box mesh and make the mesh renderer invisible is what I meant, bad wording on my part

[night ember]

you dont need a renderer at all

[worn kiln]

but maybe worse check VRChat/Mobile/StandardLite which got recently updated.

[long sierra]

Quest is the actual name of the brand of headset that most people use, which runs android, it's not an app or program.

[long sierra]

exactly

they delete the renderer

[night ember]

you didnt need it to begin with

[mossy swan]

No its...very oppressive

Trying to make a quest-compatible imposter and wow.

[long sierra]

But they added a cube to use as the platform, but that came with a renderer, and they deleted it because they didn't need it

that's the tutorial I followed when I made a flying avatar system from scratch the first time

[night ember]

the only thing you need is a box collider

[arctic ginkgo]

you can literally fly with gogo loco beyond, but that's not the same thing as the height adjust option which makes your avatar hover above the ground

i'm just confused which one you're asking for

[mossy swan]

Gloss in place of rim lighting. Good enough. Angrily pounds desk

[long sierra]

What I cared about was the speed adjust mostly

[arctic ginkgo]

you sound like you're asking for the flight, but then sent a picture of the "hovering" behavior

[arctic ginkgo]

okay that would be the flight, and the first thing i said should work, but that doesn't come with an animation, you'd have to add that yourself

[long sierra]

I just want all of these to work tbh

but just the flight with the speed booster adjustment would be fine if that isn't possible

[arctic ginkgo]

yes that should work with just the FX layer, parameters, prefab, and menu

[long sierra]

the last animation I did for the other avatar (with the spinning ears) didn't need any humanoid animations, but the one I'm doing with this avatar does

[arctic ginkgo]

it's just using the fx layer to animate a collider under your feet

[long sierra]

The entire GGL prefab or just the beyond

[arctic ginkgo]

beyond prefab

sorry i have an old version of ggl

before vrcfury prefab

[long sierra]

wow haha

[arctic ginkgo]

don't want to update bc it would be a pain

i have it very customized

if i just drag the new version it it will overwrite my custom stuff

[long sierra]

I would ask you to send over a version of it with everything else removed, but considering GGL is paid, that'd be piracy and you can't really do that. :c

[arctic ginkgo]

like blendtrees, animations, stuff like that

[arctic ginkgo]

ggl isn't paid?

[long sierra]

yes it is

now, at least

[arctic ginkgo]

it is free

[long sierra]

I had to pay for it on gumroad

[arctic ginkgo]

i just checked

just bought on gumroad for $0 right now

the $6.99 CAD is a suggested minimum

but not what you have to pay

[long sierra]

I think I tried doing $0 and it didn't let me, but I could be remembering wrong

[arctic ginkgo]

it's also on booth for free

it's always been free

[long sierra]

I think I'm burned out for tonight though, and it's almost midnight

[arctic ginkgo]

i don't have money rn but when i do i'm going to donate to franada bc ggl has taught me so much

i learned a shit ton from dissecting it

[tidal tusk]

Anyone got a clue why when i add a physbone to a certain bone root in unity it doesnt show up in gizmos and is static?

[olive dagger]

okay so this button won't work and it's giving me this error, it's for every transition so no it's not as simple and redo'ing to fx layer as well as restarting unity and closing and opening the windows in the project change nothing

this might give a better idea as to what's happening

[dusk pulsar]

It does not matter if there is a mistake for the toggle in FX. Either the condition won't work or will; no errors such as these.

[olive dagger]

what?

[wanton cedar]

Cant remember if someone answered me last week, but is this just textures or trig too?

[dusk pulsar]

Everything

[wanton cedar]

oh my god

[dusk pulsar]

Textures, polygons, animations

[devout granite]

Would anyone here know how I could get a generic rig avatar to look up and down with the camera? I've seen it done with dinosaurs and robots but the debug doesn't help me figure it out

[night ember]

you need a humanoid rig of some kind

[dusk pulsar]

If you've got some knowledge of blender, you can remove some polygons, which helps a ton. If not, remove separate meshes in unity. Otherwise, look for compressing textures and reducing animations.

[wanton cedar]

God it loves me

[dusk pulsar]

2.75 mb should be easily compressable with textures

[wanton cedar]

all of my textures are 32

I kid you not

this thing has like only 200k poly which i think is decent

[dusk pulsar]

You can also set compression type, like low quality

[wanton cedar]

this, yes?

[dusk pulsar]

Do you have AV3 emulator?

[olive dagger]

I have gesture manager but I'm not sure that would change why this isn't working

[dusk pulsar]

It looks like toggles were made with it

Could be worth looking into

Maybe it's missing a script

[olive dagger]

nope didn't work

[dusk pulsar]

I usually install Gesture Manager and I forgot what else, maybe Avatars Manager? Something that is kind of identical to AV3 emulator

[olive dagger]

adding and removing these type's of packages changed nothing I 99% sure it's a unity problem and now a package problem

[dusk pulsar]

Try to make a new animator and just random animations with random states. Check if the issue persists. If so, then it's something with unity and / or scripts

[olive dagger]

all ready tried that it happens across the entire project

[dusk pulsar]

How about your other projects? Do they work?

[olive dagger]

let me check

no it's just that project and i really don't want to restart it

[kindred trellis]

erm so my errors are..what? its not showing or let me click it down. it is spamming the same Errors in the console

[dusk pulsar]

Tried re-importing* VRCSDK?

[somber meadow]

Look in the console for spammed errors

[worn kiln]

Check this

[olive dagger]

all ready did that

[dusk pulsar]

.-.

[somber meadow]

What's in the list of parameters of the animator

[olive dagger]

just normal stuff nothing I've added broke it

[somber meadow]

Seeing that there was an automated destructive toggle tool used, I'm guessing there could be some sort of corrupted parameter

it's only occurring to that animator in that project

[kindred trellis]

its with the VRCSDK but dont get why.

[somber meadow]

you have a corrupted state machine somewhere in your avatar descriptor's animators, look through your animator layers for a completely empty layer and delete it

[worn kiln]

don't crop console....I need full visual

[worn kiln]

yeah, I bet Blanke's comments

[atomic mantle]

Someone nom on my errors. I tried importing a new avatar I bought and it will import the opti version but not the pc. Says build failed. Any ideas on where I went wrong???

[somber meadow]

scroll up and show more of the errors

anything below "Assetbundle was not build" is useless info and the SDK blabbering

[worn kiln]

also better click "collapse"

[somber meadow]

you just showed the whole unity window

[atomic mantle]

i didnt wanna crop

please forgive me im stressed one sec xD

[somber meadow]

prob wanna delete that image, but you forgot to import VRCFury into your project

[atomic mantle]

what, i did tho Dx

[wanton cedar]

That stuff is not allowed here

[somber meadow]

click "Manage project" on your project in the creator companion

make sure the VRCFury package is added in the project

[kindred trellis]

thats why they didnt want to scroll

[wanton cedar]

I know

[atomic mantle]

wait what do i have thats not allowed?

[wanton cedar]

Im just reminding them

anything 18+

[kindred trellis]

the funny things..

[subtle terrace]

so in cc there is absolutely no option to click chose as a fallback avatar after ive uploaded it. does any1 know how to upload a fallback avatar'

[atomic mantle]

well now you have me worried about even importing that if theres stuff not allowed

[somber meadow]

it's in the same area where you name the avatar. You need to upload the Quest version first and then the PC version, you'll get a "set as fallback" button. Make sure the avatar is rated "good" or better in the respective platform

[atomic mantle]

i might just settle for opti

[wanton cedar]

Anywho, still have this after lowering my avatar by at least 50k polyg. its only gone down a few kb (my images are an av of 0.7kb)

[kindred trellis]

go to the Tools Tab and see if it have VRCFury, if not reinstall VRCFury Form VCC

[subtle terrace]

not that ive seen

[wanton cedar]

any tips that dont completely trash my avi

Bro already looks homeless

[somber meadow]

polygons/triangles don't effect assetbundle filesize

[wanton cedar]

someone just told me they did

[somber meadow]

People think Polygons mean everything

you can try using VRCFury's blendshape optimizer to see if that shaves anything off

but your main thing will be modifying your textures to be smaller resolution or deleting some outright

[wanton cedar]

Yeah all of them are crunched and 32

I cant do anything else

[lime lagoon]

is this right for bones just body

[dusk pulsar]

Nsfw toggles are fine but don't share them publicly, where it's not allowed. This goes both for screenshots and publishing the avatar as "public"

[atomic mantle]

Thank you for letting me know

[wanton cedar]

please dont show minors either. I dont know why I've had to have this talk with people

[wanton cedar]

YOu saved me holy shit

[atomic mantle]

im sorry that you have

[somber meadow]

good ol avatars having a huge abundance of blendshapes which aren't even used

[lime lagoon]

also do i need eyes?

[kindred trellis]

eye bone you dont need, unless you have eye and want them to move

[lime lagoon]

nahh

[wanton cedar]

Its always the quest avatars

I wonder if that could've saved me from deleting over half of his assets

[dusk pulsar]

Maybe? Never thought of "empty" blendshapes using a lot of memory though

[lime lagoon]

but bone wise body is done right?

[wanton cedar]

I was always told it was textures, physbones, poly, and bones

[somber meadow]

useless data that could just be baked in

[timber wharf]

physbones weight nothing

just csnt have too much

[wanton cedar]

god whos been lying to me this entire time

[timber wharf]

and ye blendshapes are 2nd place after textures, they bloat mesh size

[wanton cedar]

I will have to write that down for next time

[somber meadow]

you can use something like VRWorldToolkit to see what assets are making your avatar filesize huge (it works on either World or Avatar projects)

[wanton cedar]

probably something stupid as usual

[dusk pulsar]

Pumpkin tools can also display the sizes of everything I think

[wanton cedar]

I used to have something like that

[kindred trellis]

you need all the main bones (arms,hand,legs,feet) the bones you don't "need" are (Chest,Upper Chest,Shoulder,Toes,Neck) I would use a chest.

[dusk pulsar]

Toes, 100%

[lime lagoon]

ok what do these bones do? jw im going to to every thing

[lime lagoon]

why is that important? i dont have any toes

[timber wharf]

@wanton cedar https://github.com/MunifiSense/VRChat-Build-Size-Viewer for avatars makes more sense

@lime lagoon you dont need toes

[dusk pulsar]

It was a joke of needing toes. I haven't seen a single person from 3600 hours of playtime having toe tracking

[lime lagoon]

ahh ok

[lime lagoon]

lmao i dont even have fullbody tracking (do i need it?

[timber wharf]

@dusk pulsar its normal to have a single toe bone. but its optional

[kindred trellis]

so to make a Avi move. you need to Weight paint the mesh to the bones. if you dont know how to do that. look on YT for some Videos how to start.

[atomic mantle]

I left this chat open for too long. Now I’m going to have nightmares about having no toes.
Thank you for the advice and help everyone. I appreciate everyone responding to me♥️

[lime lagoon]

im watching this right now but she is moving to fast lmao https://youtu.be/6WqCUdilzS8?si=IPH0ftD9cEfOqtLy

[timber wharf]

@lime lagoon honestly if youre making humanoid, autoweight it with mixamo, it will give you quite good fbt rig.

ofc may need some fixing but still tons of saved time

[lime lagoon]

i dont even have the bones yet (or does this do the bones too

[timber wharf]

and ofc it wont do hair eyes etc

@lime lagoon it does

you just need humanoid mesh

[lime lagoon]

how do i do that

[timber wharf]

?

two legs, two hands, head

[dusk pulsar]

Cockroach

[kindred trellis]

2 arms, 2 legs, 1 hip, 1 head

[lime lagoon]

need 9inch lmao

[lime lagoon]

i think i have that

[kindred trellis]

Export it as FBX. and go to miximo site and load it up

[lime lagoon]

what is F sorry im very very new

[lime lagoon]

ill try

[lime lagoon]

do i delete the bones i have right now or not

[dusk pulsar]

Export as FBX All, apply transforms, disable add leaf bones in export settings

Do this always, or most of the times

[tidal tusk]

It says a Poyomi material has a parent and can't be uploaded into vrc

[kindred trellis]

it will make a rig for you so dont need boes

[tidal tusk]

Anyone know what went wrong?

[lime lagoon]

ok thanks

nvm

ya found it as i sent it

[dusk pulsar]

Also this

[lime lagoon]

i did the fbx how do i change that

[dusk pulsar]

It's in the next window

Once you click export and as fbx

[lime lagoon]

ok before i do the bones do i need to join the body? by ctrl+j

or nahh

[dusk pulsar]

People either join the entire body with head or leave body and head separate

[lime lagoon]

so join other then head or just join all?

[tidal tusk]

Why does it say that my Poyomi material is patented?

[dusk pulsar]

You can join them all. You can easily separate them later if needed. The model looks simple

[tidal tusk]

And "can't be locked or exported to vrchat"

[lime lagoon]

ya the only part i want to be good is the toggle (thanks for all the help so far

@dusk pulsar sorry for pinging you again but the mixamo is not working it is just loading then starting from the begining

[wind skiff]

have you gotten this resolved btw?

[wild birch]

this is not avatar related but why do i get this error while trying to upload a Photo or sticker??
Is PNG 1024x1024 less than 10 mb

[winter edge]

How come when I calibrate my legs in game the green orbs are far from my feet and blue lines directing towrads my feet.

How can I make my avatar match my proportions more?

[wind skiff]

try messing with the user height setting

if your avatar has completely different proportions than you though, you might need to adjust its bones in unity or blender

[winter edge]

Does that mean buying booth avatars are silly if it’s not made for your proportions?

[wind skiff]

?

[winter edge]

Like if I just the bones does that mean I would also have to adjust the leg length of the model

[wanton cedar]

hes

yes*

[wanton cedar]

do you have your height as arm length or actual height

[mild solar]

an avatar’s lip sync isn’t working in game, no movement with audio. it matches up in unity for the visme blendshapes except for the top two ‘sil’ and ‘pp’, which are left blank because there isn’t a matching blendshape. could that possibly have something to do with it?

[ornate stump]

Every viseme slot must be uniquely assigned.

[mild solar]

there isn’t a matching one for the top two, sil or pp, i’m not sure what my next step would be

[ornate stump]

What blendshapes you had assigned with on other slots?

[lime lagoon]

@ornate stump sorry to ask but how do i put mixamo rig to unity?

[ornate stump]

Screenshot to confirm it.

[ornate stump]

I don't use mixamo.

[lime lagoon]

damn how do i put any human or avi to unity so i can make toggles

[mild solar]

is this what you mean?

[ornate stump]

Yes. It had all other proper blendshape. Have you check in the list it doesn't have vrc.v_sil or vrc.v_pp ?

[ornate stump]

Maybe mixamo but I can't help you on that topic.

[lime lagoon]

so you dont use unity?

[ornate stump]

How does that imply I don't use unity?

[lime lagoon]

ahh no i was just asking how to put this in to unity

[left wharf]

see tutorials on internet. that is the first step before asking here.

[lime lagoon]

ahh ok thanks

[ornate stump]

Export as fbx file and put it into unity. But the way you asked is also wrong. I only saw you struggle at rigging step which doesn't have anything to do with unity.

[lime lagoon]

ahh i did not know that

[mild solar]

yeah there isn’t one anywhere

in the blendshapes list

[ornate stump]

That's strange. Is it missing straight up from the package or did you edit the model somehow?

If you imported the package and doesn't see blendshapes in the list then it's the author fault.

[eager hinge]

are these bones required ? I edited the model in blender and placed of the model over the original armature. but it seems the arms are not picking up in unity like the original does

[ornate stump]

You might have to manually assigned the bone map slot. See if there are bones in the hierarchy.

[split helm]

anyone know how to fix an fbx. all my meshes have this issue according to the console. all my blendshapes are BROKEN and half do not work. Legacy normal blendshapes are forced on but just break it more. "Can't generate normals for blendshape 'HIDE Side Bangs' on mesh 'Hair | Front', mesh has no smoothing groups."

idk how to fix this in blender.

[left wharf]

try set Blend Shape Normals to Import or None in Import Settings

[eager hinge]

okay I just tried, I am getting an error. "Prefab instance problem. Missing Prefab Asset: 'durpoi (Missing Prefab with guid: 24dff893609b97f49add0c77b7805f70)'
UnityEngine.GUIUtility:ProcessEvent (int,intptr,bool&)"

Also the original talks like this. And I am not sure how to set up talking 😭 seems like the mouth is joined together

[ornate stump]

Where and when did the error show up?

[eager hinge]

I just re imported to double check, it was there when I first imported it

[ornate stump]

You mean it show up right after you imported the model into unity?

[eager hinge]

yes

[ornate stump]

Does it actually break something? Also you have to enforce T Pose in rig configuration menu.

[lime lagoon]

avatars dont need fingers right?

[ornate stump]

Fingers aren't requirement. But some world depends on finger bones, which mean without finger, those system in the world won't work for you.

[lime lagoon]

i just want it for chatting

thanks

[eager hinge]

okay no errors now

with tpose enabled

[lime lagoon]

also how do i make a smile? like this but not creepy (i tried with tous)

[ornate stump]

Ok. Save it and proceed.

[lime lagoon]

so far looks like this

[ornate stump]

What kind is that question? It's too ambiguous.

[lime lagoon]

like that smile how do i make that in blender

or any smile or mouth

[split helm]

that is what breaks it. its an issue from blender

[ornate stump]

What kind of answer you are expecting? It's just about modeling the mesh.

[split helm]

having it set to none will make sure almost half blendshapes dont work but with import on. the blendshapes kinda work but are broken

its an import FBX issue. but idk how to fix it

[ornate stump]

Have you actually completed donut tutorial? I didn't see you made any complex shape other than badly deformed spheres.

[lime lagoon]

i just want that kind of weird shape looking avatar but the toggle is where im going to spend a long time on watching videos etc

maby bone too that would take time

[ornate stump]

Of course you have to learn fundamental about 3D modeling so you could create any shape you can imagine.

[lime lagoon]

100% these two are only my starter like only taking a week or something then ill learn how to add color and make it more relistic etc

[ornate stump]

If donut tutorial aren't enough for you then you have to watch dozens more videos.
The way you asked is the same as "how do I draw a person?", there is no way I would describe artistic procedure by words.

Other than telling you to take a pencil and just draw it on a paper.

[lime lagoon]

watching this guy that i like right now

[ornate stump]

Ok you do you. Keep in mind I don't watch along with you so if your question refer to any tutorial then I won't answer it.

[lime lagoon]

ok thanks his thing tells a lot about bones

or rigging

[lime lagoon]

what assistant do you use (sorry im a little late and how do i use it just finished in blender

@young matrix can i dm for a min

[gusty viper]

so i have no idea why, but whenevr i export my avi from blender to unity, all the blendshapes just destroy the second mesh i put on

it just exlpodes

[junior void]

Looks like you need to to use "blend from shape"

[gusty viper]

how would i do that

because it does it without any blenshaped being changed as well

and its not a weight painting issue, the weights are fine and it doesnt move, it jsut stays stretched to the right in unity

[frozen rain]

hey first time avatar creator here. I taught myself the basics of blender over the last 3 days and am having issued with the rigging of my avatar.
It's a low poly stylized avatar.
I cant find anything about the specific problem i seem to have and can't figure out what it is can someone help me here?
remember this is the first time i've done this so i don't know anything

[junior void]

Only in unity? That should give you a hint to look at fbx import warnings

[gusty viper]

blendshape warning is normal as i have facetracking and theres empty blendshapes to catigorise the blendshapes, and the second one is theres one poly in the 3rd screen for the proto face

import settings match perfectly to my other assets that work fine

[lime lagoon]

https://youtu.be/dg9chBLXcOg?si=GWv2TkO7ZmGtbU2k im counfused so much for unity anyone knows can you help me

[gusty viper]

what issue

[lime lagoon]

the view thing

[frozen rain]

is there a reason this rig wouldn't work?
Like it doesnt pull the entire limbs and like the legs are stuck together when you pose them and the head doesn't move at all actually

[gusty viper]

did you weigh paint it?

you gotta be more specific

[frozen rain]

i don't know how to explain the "not moving the whole thing" it looks like when you make a clustered spore creature lmao

[frozen rain]

what is that

[gusty viper]

like when you move a arm for example it only moves some of it

[frozen rain]

oh brother...

[frozen rain]

is it like physics or?

[lime lagoon]

watch a video on it

[frozen rain]

yeah that's a good idea

okay thanks still tho! I seem to have missed that because i don't even know what it is 💀

[lime lagoon]

give me one min i just watched this one video that helped me

[gusty viper]

this is weight painting, you weight a section of the mesh to a bone so it moves along with it

[frozen rain]

thank you for your help tho!

[lime lagoon]

@frozen rain https://youtu.be/DDeB4tDVCGY?si=6sWHH_o7M5dkFm0l

[frozen rain]

ohhhh now i get it

okay thank you very much! I'll watch that video on it and hopefully it works

[lime lagoon]

if it goes well only takes 5min

@gusty viper do you use unity?

[gusty viper]

yeah

[lime lagoon]

can you help me on it

[gusty viper]

whats the issue

[lime lagoon]

all lmao but the main thing is i was watching this video and i dont have all of the stuff he said and i cant find where to put the cam (aka view

[gusty viper]

click on the avi and go to the vrc avatar descriptor, and adjust this to the eyes

the camera object doiesnt matter

[junior void]

Perhaps you made your edits on a shape key by accident? We wont be able to give you a definitive answer here without having the file to look at what you did and how

[lime lagoon]

cant find it anything im i doing it wrong?

[gusty viper]

all blends in blender are set to zero and it looks fine. if it wasnt a paid fbx i would just slide it ur way too see if you could figure it out

[gusty viper]

click add component on the avatar, then search vrcavatardescriptor

the video goes over it all

[lime lagoon]

i did that like 2 times

[gusty viper]

click on the object names stick alien, then add it there

as thats the container for the whole avi

[lime lagoon]

did that how do i know what x and y do i put it?

[gusty viper]

click edit and it should pop up with a thing to drag the view point around

[lime lagoon]

ill try that

one min

[lime lagoon]

i think i got that how do i look if it is right?

[junior void]

i know its the rex, i own a copy as well. however, a distorted mesh on basis is always a massive issue and i cant imagine how you did that. the only time i managed this was by using symmetrize

[lime lagoon]

i should have made it a differnt color lmao

(idk how

[gusty viper]

i have no idea, all ive done was take the proto visor and put it on the rex head and weight it

[lime lagoon]

and this all poped up @gusty viper

[junior void]

Did you keep blendshapes on the proto face when you copied it?

[gusty viper]

poiyomi stuff, idk about any shader things

[gusty viper]

yeah for the face tracking

[lime lagoon]

you dont know how i delete it?

[junior void]

If they have the same names, blender will try to merge them with already existing ones. Also did you maybe copy the proto face while it was on a blendshape (not basis)

[gusty viper]

nah, that video you sent should show you everything, just make sure to go step by step carefuly

[gusty viper]

umm i didnt think about that part, it would break in blender tho when i adjusted blendshapes if that was the case tho no?

[lime lagoon]

i did lol still this should i start from the start?

[gusty viper]

yeah ig

this might be a clue, its acting as if its part of the hand when all blends are set to zero

[junior void]

are you 100% sure all your shapes are at zero in blender tho

[lime lagoon]

only one more question how do i change color in blender the mesh

[junior void]

in your image of blender above, the proto is making a happy face, not neutral

[gusty viper]

yup, im thinking it has something to do with the basis breaking, im gonna delete the basis and make a new one

aha

[junior void]

There you go

[lime lagoon]

@junior void question how do i change color in blender the mesh

[gusty viper]

go to materials and selects the material for the mesh and change base color i think

[lime lagoon]

where is materials

[gusty viper]

its the bottom one thats a ball

[lime lagoon]

nothing changes

what do i do to make this green

and eyes black

[junior void]

you should really watch basic tutorials

[lime lagoon]

i watched the first donut one then bone one and in unity one (i dont care how this looks just the toggle

[junior void]

hows that related to a toggle

anyway, visuals in blender are obsolete anyways as you should be making materials in unity anyway

[balmy barn]

wat move uv around to a green spot on a texture (many ways of doing it) , you really need to just try stuff

[lime lagoon]

that is my point i dont care much how it looks i just want a good toggle

[junior void]

then why are you bothering with color

[lime lagoon]

cant see sh.t in unity lmao (no offence

[junior void]

If its just to see, but not to actually color sometihng, you may be better off just applying a matcap to "see" but it will not change anything in unity

Again, to change color on something, you should actually paint a texture (this requires a uv unwrap or you use vertex painting but that sucks)

[drifting temple]

I want to make my Avatars hand line up with my real hands and figners, but I can't get it quite right. The thumb goes over the fingers when I make a fist, and the fingers are spread out a bit too much and are pushed a bit into the hand. Is there a reference hadn I can follow to make my avatars hands look natural?

[ornate stump]

A picture of your own hand is the best reference.

[spark walrus]

I'm looking at my avatar to edit/merge physbones for quest, but I'm so lost and don't know where to begin 😢

I know what bones need to go, but no idea how I do it - delete or merge??? 🫠

[dusk pulsar]

How do I resize physbone based on blendshape? Image as for the reference.
I want smaller collider at least, to fit the small size, not the big one.

[night ember]

thats the neat part
you dont

physbones dont like having their component animated

[dusk pulsar]

so, I got to work in Blender, resize bones there so physbone becomes smaller?

[opal raft]

im trying to make a little fella and in unity the clothes are on him but in game they are stuck in a t pose anyone know how to fix it

[drifting temple]

is you avatar descriptor in the right place? are your clothes in the right place on the hierarchy? is your avatar rigged and weight painted propperly?

I see now, it's not a problem with the base avatr, klinda looked like it was weird too in the second photo

[spark walrus]

how to have avatar in A pose in the world but in rig config Tpose?

[quasi briar]

Your clothes armature need to be attached to the model. You cant just throw it on. Use something like VRCFury or ModularAvatar to link the armature

[spark walrus]

to make ur fbx connect all materials and normals automatically, the material folder has to be already put in before u import the fbx file>?

[opal raft]

wdym

[spark walrus]

i hate when I stil have to connect all materials

[quasi briar]

You put the clothing mesh on your avatar. But unity doesnt know what to do with it. You have to tell it that it must deform with your bones. So add armature link to it with VRCFury

[opal raft]

I dragged everything from the armature in the gloves and the bone in the clothes into the armature of the avatar, then I used vrcfury and linked the entire prefab into the hips

[quasi briar]

Put it under base, not under armature

For the clothes

[opal raft]

same with the gloves?

[quasi briar]

Also you can use gesturemanager to test in unity

Yep

[opal raft]

do I drag the entire bone folder and the armature folder

[quasi briar]

Everything else is fine but if it has its own armature then

[quasi briar]

Bone folder?

[opal raft]

where it says loose fit clothes bone

do I drag that under base

[quasi briar]

Leave that

Now add vrcfury armature link to the mesh

[opal raft]

for all 3 of these to my hips?

[quasi briar]

Hmm Im not sure for those strings

Sorry its been a minute since I used unity so I forgot how it handles those

[opal raft]

all good

so I linked the strings and the hips into the hips of the model

that worked

now just the gloves

[quasi briar]

Ok sweet

For the gloves do the armature link for each lower arm

[opal raft]

okay

bang

it works

[quasi briar]

Nice!

[opal raft]

thanks man

[quasi briar]

No problem

[drifting temple]

Using poiyomi shaders, how can I make a cell shaded material with hard shadows and highlights?

[ornate stump]

Change shade type to something else, if texture ramp then you could customize gradient to be constant color.

[drifting temple]

I see, I do have an issue with the texture ramp though, it only really darkens the texture based on the lighting, I can't see how I can add highlights

[ornate stump]

Shading is for shadow. For specular highlight, try adding matcap.

With "Add Blend" instead of "Replace".

[long sierra]

Can you send me a stripped down version of GGL with just the flight/hover and the animation for it? I'd really appreciate. :0

[spark walrus]

why does play mode is freezing

and starts like this

ok i changed camera position, but how do I get Goco Loco working:?

[junior void]

Define "get it working"

[spark walrus]

i got it working but i dontk now how

I installd vrfury and then reimport gogoloco into the scene

soomehow then it worked

what is VRfury for>?

[junior void]

https://vrcfury.com/components/

[ornate stump]

It's a toolbox containing many tools.

[spark walrus]

like what:?\

can I run GogoLoco without VRcFUry?

[ornate stump]

Read the docs above.

[ornate stump]

Do you actually mean installing gogoloco via vrcfury?

[spark walrus]

i dont knopw

I watched a video it said u should install both

[ornate stump]

Because "run gogoloco without vrcfury" doesn't make sense.

[spark walrus]

why not

[ornate stump]

Because it doesn't run.

[spark walrus]

why not

[ornate stump]

Because vrcfury isn't for running avatar's system.

[junior void]

Can you add gogo without vrcf? Yes.
Should you? No.
Why not? Bc 99.99% of ppl do it wrong and vrcf is like a quick installer, making it easier to update and remove

[ornate stump]

You're refering to "installing gogoloco via vrcfury" which is recommend by many avatar store.

[spark walrus]

GogoLoco is a set of poses and anims

and vrcfury is the menu?

asystem

[junior void]

Vrcf attaches gogo via controller

[ornate stump]

No. It's a toolbox for making thing more convenience. Which including a tool for installing some prefab into your avatar.

[spark walrus]

zero yes

[junior void]

Again, skim over https://vrcfury.com/components/

[spark walrus]

how does Loco cooperate with fury?

[junior void]

Have a look at the prefab you installed

Literally read the header of the component

[spark walrus]

would have to watch a tutorial on how to use it to add my own animations

gestures

the header opnly says addinbg components

[junior void]

I give up

[somber sequoia]

yeah I'm there too

[junior void]

Support squad agrees xD

[mystic sentinel]

How do fix this

[long sierra]

I know there's a way to put multiple clips in one audio source and have it switch between them, but I don't remember how

[dark jay]

Should i be worried about this when bending back

[cinder pulsar]

Anyone know how to do contacts that rely on the user needing to have a certain amount of velocity?

so that just colliding with it doesn't make it play

[ornate stump]

You can set velocity for OnEnter type receiver.

[cinder pulsar]

I've been trying to figure that out myself but it's hardly working, do you know any good settings?

[ornate stump]

I don't know what you're using it for.

[cinder pulsar]

I'm using it for a slap sfx

[ornate stump]

Unit for velocity is meter per second, so try google for slap velocity.

[cinder pulsar]

sfx is sound effects

It's just when the hand collides with the contact it plays a sound

Just using 1 means it doesn't work for me lmfao

[ornate stump]

We're talking about how to determine require velocity.

[cinder pulsar]

VRC has a max velocity of 1

[ornate stump]

You will have to understand the unit which I explained earlier.

[ornate stump]

That has to be false.

[ornate stump]

You read it wrong.

[cinder pulsar]

Well either way 1 doesn't work, and it's not even playing the sound

[ornate stump]

1 you read mean the parameter value that get set when the reciever got triggered.

[cinder pulsar]

Just by experimenting setting it to 1 doesn't work and nothing even plays, plus On Enter isn't gonna cut it cause it plays the audio for a split second