avatar-help

[rustic swan]

i have a issue, when i load into play mode, the asset i put on my avatar is there, but cant be seen.

[rustic swan]

Help?

[mild solar]

i’m not sure why the blendshape is changing how the material looks so drastically. they only look normal when inside the head

[random fjord]

i need help everytime i try to upload my avi it says this

[bright panther]

Anyone know how fix default blendshape on 2022?
I edited blendshape on avatar directly to set is as my default face.

On 2019 there's no issue it's working, but for some reason 2022 just broke the default face. It work however if I not use left/right hand gesture on FX layer, but as soon I put hand gestures whenever I not doing any hand emote the default face just broken even though idle is empty.

[dense dawn]

i tried adding goco loco onto my avi and this happenned

[junior void]

Did you actually import gogo itself into your project

[dense dawn]

Yes

[junior void]

Do you have modular avatar installed?

[dense dawn]

What that

What that

[junior void]

You added gogo loco to the avatar that takes "modular avatar" to merge gogo into your avatar when you hit play or upload it
Obviously the script to do so from modular avatar cannot work if you never added it

[fair mirage]

is it possible to adjust how much the neck bone bends when looking down? it barely bends at all which both looks bad and makes the perspective weird when looking down

[worthy urchin]

so i have a question about combining parent and aim constraints.

i'm remaking a sax playing avatar for a music video. right now it's in a "good enough" state so i'm a little hesitant to touch it, but I have an idea that might make it better if it works how I expect. i just want to make sure i'm understanding correctly before i mess with it again.

right now it works very simply. there is a "SaxHolder" object attached to my avatar positioned at my character's lips with a parent constraint tying it to my Head. there is also an aim constraint that targets an empty gameobject in my left hand. the sax model is a child of this SaxHolder object. the aim constraint is set up so that the axis points from the origin at my mouth and goes through the point on the sax where the left hand sits. (picture 1)

this works fine if i can keep my left hand the right distance from my mouth, but if i get too close or too far they stop lining up.

i'm thinking i could leave the parent constraint as is, but add a second gameobject as a child of SaxHolder and parent of the sax model , positioned at the joint on the sax. i would then move the aim constraint to that child object and set it up so the axis is going down the length of the sax. (picture 2)

would this work how I hope? or is there a better way?

also, right now i just need to carefully keep my right hand lined up in about the right position manually - it's not tied to anything directly. how complicated would it be to disable tracking my right hand and arm and just glue that hand in place on the sax so the whole system moves based on my left arm instead?

[forest dawn]

If you don’t mind, could you submit a support ticket for this avatar and include its ID? That’s a very strange result.

[left wren]

trying to make a gesture controlled weapon fire. it works in unity and should work in game but i have squat for results

[rancid anvil]

nothing doing that
the normal animation is empty

[spark walrus]

why is this in the floor?

[balmy barn]

your origin probably in middle of mesh, blender - set it as where you want it to be touching ground

[spark walrus]

in untiy it is on the ground

[night ember]

unity doesnt matter

[ornate stump]

Global position doesn't matter. You have to check the model position relative to the avatar root.

[night ember]

🤷‍♂️

by using blender?

[balmy barn]

3dmax/autocad/cnc stuff/drawing actual rl big boards/blender/unity ect

only thing hard about blender is learning controls

[ornate stump]

Trial and error is the bare minimum learning method. You could try looking for blender donut tutorial which is a common learning video.

[night ember]

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=(insert+blender+related+question)

[balmy barn]

when you have a descriptor on avatar - click and white line appear where your origin and directions will be , you can fake it in unity with a gameobject and put mesh under it / fake skeleton also work

[ornate stump]

Then the rest is just learning tips and tricks here and there.

Did you read my previous message?

[spark walrus]

where do I check that?

[ornate stump]

Read Thulen's message.

[spark walrus]

ok

[spark walrus]

whjat do u fake?

I see that line it shows direction, but how do I know how deep my avatar g oes under the floor?

[somber sequoia]

you should really fix this properly in Blender

[ornate stump]

The line also indicate floor level for the avatar.

[spark walrus]

but i put it above the ground

and the object in game is still below floor levevl

[ornate stump]

Global ground level doesn't matter.

[pulsar trout]

So how come when I do the "fix avatar" it messes up everything like this? Now the face and part of the chest don't move properly

[ornate stump]

Is the white line at the bottom of the model?

[spark walrus]

yes needs to be fixed in blender

it is

in the middle

[ornate stump]

The line indicate ground level of the avatar. So if the line at the middle, that means lower part of the model is going to be underground.

[spark walrus]

yes

it is bc in blender i see Object is already in the ground

when u import it into blender

I wonder how i move the object to snap exactly to the ground

in Blender

[somber sequoia]

move it to the right location, apply transforms

[ornate stump]

Just move it. Doesn't need to be precise.

[spark walrus]

but then it will not sit on the floor in unity agian

[ornate stump]

Then also adjust in unity.

[spark walrus]

i dont see where it will be in unity

[ornate stump]

The white line indicates floor level.

[spark walrus]

i know, but i dont know how muc h i need to move it up or down

[somber sequoia]

In Unity set the avatar's location to 0,0,0

[spark walrus]

that doesnt fix it

[somber sequoia]

then it has the wrong origin in Blender.

[ornate stump]

You could just move the entire model in blender to be above ground. Then apply transform. This will make it sit right at the proper ground level.

[spark walrus]

it will hover above the ground

[ornate stump]

Will it? Did you do it?

[spark walrus]

I moved it in edit mode

[pulsar trout]

Can anybody help me with my problem?

[ornate stump]

You have to elaborate.

No one can help without knowing the problem.

[spark walrus]

it is flying now

ion un9ity

[ornate stump]

Did you adjust the model in unity to sit right on the white line?

[somber sequoia]

don't use "fix model"

[spark walrus]

it cannot

[pulsar trout]

Well my problem is that my commission artist did WAYYYYY too many bones, I'm having a hard time fixing it. They did 900 bones, but vrc only allows 400....

[spark walrus]

the model and object are different nights

[somber sequoia]

... 900? wow.

[pulsar trout]

yeah...

[somber sequoia]

that's kinda crazy.

[ornate stump]

What does that even mean?

[spark walrus]

i mean the qwhite line and model

[junior void]

how does one even justify 900 bones

[ornate stump]

Did you actually mean "height" and not "night"?

[pulsar trout]

Behold! 900 Bones!

[somber sequoia]

I'm guessing "not knowing what one is doing"

but possibly it could be rigged for animation rather than VRChat.

[pulsar trout]

They are a professional artist, they did a bone for like everything for max fidelity I guess

[junior void]

This is not a rig with vrc in mind

[ornate stump]

How did you move it in blender?

[junior void]

I rigged my avatar like that in the beginning to help with facial blendshapes

[spark walrus]

edit mode

[pulsar trout]

The problem I think is with the body bones, not even the face.

[somber sequoia]

Pika you seem to be trying really hard to do things without learning how to do things, I'm quite confused.

[ornate stump]

Of course I ask what the position you moved it to in blender.

[junior void]

the problem is the whole thing

in vrc avis, the most you have in the face is 2x eyes and a jaw, head and neck, maybe ears if its a furry

[pulsar trout]

There's bones inside bones

[junior void]

the rest of the body does not conform to vrcs humanoid standard either

[pulsar trout]

like what

[somber sequoia]

that's often ok - probably a lot of those are twist bones, and you can use them in vrchat.

[junior void]

this is twist bones

[somber sequoia]

possibly also has muscle deform bones, those are fun

[junior void]

keeps mesh from behaving like when you wring a towel

[pulsar trout]

But they still add to the bone count, no?

[somber sequoia]

still you shouldn't need 900 🙂

[junior void]

they do

[ornate stump]

All bones are counted.

[pulsar trout]

I have no idea what to do about this :/

[junior void]

you will have to remove ik bones and merge weights until you come out with something that is conform with vrc's humanoid rig requirements

If you dont know blender, youre best off commissioning someone for it. This is advanced, even for my standards. I do rigging for vrc, never did i ever touch ik stuff so youd need someone who knows what theyre doing to fix it up for vrc

and yes, that sucks ass

[somber sequoia]

yeah I know how to do this and it'd be a whole bunch of work

[ornate stump]

Just for the record, did you ask the commisioner to make the model "specifically for vrchat"?

[somber sequoia]

ah I was just typing that

[pulsar trout]

They were foreign, they didn't know what it was. I told them it was for a game

[somber sequoia]

ah, yeah I can see why now

[ornate stump]

Curious if they know about vrchat they won't be making such a high def model.

Even for a game in general, that's bad too.

[pulsar trout]

How much would it cost to fix this?

[ornate stump]

Ask the person you want to hire.

Optimization cost can be widely ranged.

Although other than bones count, you might have to worry about polygon count too.

[somber sequoia]

wouldn't surprise me if this is a day or two worth of work

just for the bones and re-weight painting

[pulsar trout]

Poly count is under 50k

[ornate stump]

Well that's good then.

[ornate stump]

Also even the bones aren't needed for vrchat, they're still useful for creating blendshape, especially for lipsyncs and face expressions.

[somber sequoia]

ooh does it even have viseme shape keys....

[pulsar trout]

My genuine reaction:

[ornate stump]

I would doubt it doesn't have the essential shape keys.

[pulsar trout]

I made the shape keys myself

[ornate stump]

So when that part had done, the excess bones can be deleted.

[somber sequoia]

yeah I was guessing that if it's got bones for the face, it may not have shape keys for visemes, but good that it does

[junior void]

someone really went all out on this one

[pulsar trout]

Well I tried to do that with the fix avatar button, but then it has some issues

[junior void]

you never use fix avatar for non-vroid iirc

[pulsar trout]

That's when this happens

[junior void]

its not meant to be regularly used for just any avatar

[ornate stump]

Fix model supposedly is for MMD model.

[junior void]

ah, mmd, not vroid

[ornate stump]

I think Vroid also has its own button.

[junior void]

i keep forgetting that exists

[pulsar trout]

Well it does surely reduce he bone count to under 200 lol

[somber sequoia]

not in the right way though

[junior void]

youre better off using merge bone weights to parent

[pulsar trout]

displeased

[junior void]

to reduce it to the standard vrc humaoid rig

[ornate stump]

Fix model does various thing, but the option you need is "removing zero weight bones", which also exist outside of the fix model button.

[junior void]

lets just start at the beginning: you need to know which bones classify as ok ones in a vrc rig so you know which ones you need to reduce or merge

twist bones for example are very useful and id keep those as well

[somber sequoia]

yeah I love twist bones

[pulsar trout]

I fear I may have to hire someone. I also fear the price to do so

[lime mural]

I have a couple emotions on my avatar but is there a way to make them look painted kind of like the last image

i think it might improve the style

[pulsar trout]

How much would you charge to fix something like this?

[somber sequoia]

I never said I'd do it, and I haven't actually inspected the model

[pulsar trout]

I mean as a general thing

[somber sequoia]

and you shouldn't do that here, go to the VRC Traders discord and find someone verified

as a general thing I'd inspect the model in more detail before talking about time/price

[ornate stump]

It depends on amount of work. One can't simply estimate without seeing what they have to do first.

[pulsar trout]

Yeah, I'm just disappointed I even have to do this

[junior void]

if i had the time, id offer to do this, even if i ended up failing

i never had a rig like that under my nails so its be a learning experience but my own model needs fixing badly and its peeing me off lol

[somber sequoia]

this seems like one of those things that starts easy but then you spend a week trying to fix weight painting

[junior void]

xD

[pulsar trout]

I did find a model with less bones they provides, but the weight paint and bone hierarchy are off

[junior void]

Theres really nothing more we can tell you

[pulsar trout]

Well it's definitely more normal looking

Until you move it XD

[ornate stump]

You didn't "Fix model" this time, right?

[pulsar trout]

No

[ornate stump]

Should be able to claim responsibility from the author since the model shouldn't to that. It's broken.

[junior void]

true^

[pulsar trout]

yay

[junior void]

aside from the face bones, this looks like a standard vrc rig too

maybe 1 hip bone too much (hips, spine, chest, chestup)

[pulsar trout]

But the face hates to move with the rig

everything else is fine

[junior void]

the creator has to fix that

[pulsar trout]

Upon more research it seems there's two sets of bones here, when moved together everything works. Now I just have to combine them the right way

I did it!

wooo

[junior void]

The model now has end bones

GG^^

[pulsar trout]

end bones?

[junior void]

Look at the toes

before

now

You must have exported the fbx and forgot to untick "add leaf bones"

[pulsar trout]

is this a simple fix then?

[ornate stump]

Actually you should not import FBX back into blender.

[pulsar trout]

I haven't exported yet

[junior void]

I don't really see a reason to do that anyway

Well, somehow these bones appeared

So what you did only you know

[pulsar trout]

I'll just delete the end bones

Clean boy

[junior void]

now you gotta make it fit vrc rig standards

[junior void]

Did you by chance just split all bones? it shouldnt have that many, look at this older picture

[pulsar trout]

The old one was the fix model button, I restarted from scratch

these are the og bones

[fair mirage]

bump
i know i could also edit the rig and weights to achieve the same thing but id rather not if possible

[halcyon geode]

Aight so quick help I could use rf- I was updating the fbx of a model in blender to add some blendshapes and when reimporting to unity the models from the scene vanished. The avatar gameobject and all the scene hierarchy is still there but the mesh and skeleton themselves just are not appearing in scene view or in game mode. What gives?

Update: Here is the import error

[somber sequoia]

that's fine

[fair mirage]

ur probably best off just making a fresh fbx

[mild solar]

any help?

[fair mirage]

probably an issue with normals, blendshapes can mess those up sometimes. I don't remember how to fix it though but I think it was somewhere in the import settings for the fbx. if you haven't done the "auto fix" stuff in the vrchat upload menu yet I recommend applying those too

[mild solar]

if i already worked on the fbx adding assets and materials and such, is it too late to fix do you think? sorry probably a strange question since you’re not exactly sure how to fix

i already tried auto fix solutions, i think it’s something with the blendshapes because it keeps making the material matte no matter what material i put on

[ivory cove]

Should I be concerned by this error? Its a fresh project, nothing in it but the updated sdk

Anytime I start a project now I get this issue

[somber meadow]

Screenshot what packages you have in your vcc on this project

[somber meadow]

your base and avatar packages are mismatching versions

[ivory cove]

Oh would that be why?

[somber meadow]

change them so they use the same exact version

[ivory cove]

Gotcha

[somber meadow]

persistence is only for worlds which is bizzare for it to show up in avatar projects

[ivory cove]

Yeah it suggested I update it to that one

Yeah changed it back but it suggests me to upgrade it to that other version

[somber meadow]

yeah just ignore that or turn off beta packages in the vcc settings

[ornate stump]

You generally shouldn't be using beta if you really don't know how to deal with issues.

[ivory cove]

Not even sure how I ended up on the betas x_x

[somber meadow]

it's the "Enable pre release packages" setting in VCC

[ivory cove]

Appreciated

[dark jay]

has anyone ever had a avatar emote audio bug where when u change into the avatar it plays 1 second of a emote audio then stops

[somber meadow]

is that audio object on by default?

as in the object is enabled in the hierarchy outside of play mode

[dark jay]

its only with one emote not the other emote audio

[dark jay]

is this what u mean cause its disabled

[somber meadow]

how's your animator setup for enabling this audio

[somber meadow]

so the audio on animator state is default (orange)?

that'll be why

[pale wigeon]

i need help I dont know why this is a error?

[somber meadow]

right click your off state and set it as the default instead

this will skip the awkward 1 second audio on thing as the first state that will play is the off state

[dark jay]

ok

[dark jay]

so turn off write default in on state??

[somber meadow]

no

right clicking this will give the option to make it the default state which will turn that state orange

[dark jay]

it is already on

oh ok

nvm i read wrong

[fair mirage]

no i don't think that would matter

[fair mirage]

the bones on the avatar itself are wrong. not in the menu on the right.

[dark jay]

It worked but some of my emotes now has the open mouth how do i fix that

Lmk

[polar pasture]

I was just banned from vrctraders for having an alt account 😭 I didn't even know that I had logged into their verification system before on an alt account. Help???

I don't even know where to ask about this. I just wanted to commission a model and there i go 💀

[night ember]

This is vrchat not vrctraders

[rocky axle]

so i having this werid issue.
Trying to make a toggle for a avatar,
And when i try Turning it off, it comes up as Missing?
its there, so i dont understand why.

Example:
Hits Record*
Turns it off
Shows Missing
Pretty much all i did.

[warm merlin]

Did you delete the object instead of hiding it?

[rocky axle]

Nope i just turned it off with the check mark box.

it even does that if i Choose to hide the Mesh Renderer Instead

[rocky axle]

Strange i fixed it. somehow by changing the name??

[warm merlin]

That is an odd fix

[somber meadow]

is that a space in the name?

[polar pasture]

Well i can't ask in a server i was banned in

[night ember]

and vrchat has nothing to do with vrctraders

[polar pasture]

Well, i found vrctraders through this server, so i thought there was some sort of connection. I apologise.

[spark walrus]

how do i do image devision:?

agian?

1000x741 is the image proportion

[left gull]

there isnt really a connection its just one vrchat recommends as its the safest in their opinion

[polar pasture]

Ahh i see, thank you

[left gull]

what you could do is try directly messaging their mods (though after looking at the list its a bit confusing on who you'd try to reach out to for help 😞 )

[worldly whale]

how do i fix this?

[trim lagoon]

Hi!, Can someone help me pls? I want to make a toggle so when i click that toggle it put a clothe in my avatar, But this is happening, idk if in this things smth is wrong

[worldly whale]

whats wrong?

[floral haven]

hey everyone. Im working on my avi right now and having some issues. for context, i have three versions of my avi in one scene, two for PC and one for Quest. I went about changing my shaders to quest compatible ones on the avi i have designated as the quest version, but it also changed the shaders on the two PC versions. How do i make it so only the shaders on the quest version change? Thanks!

[trim lagoon]

The grey outfit is the base outfit, the bow outfit is the one i want to toggle

[worldly whale]

from what it looks like, it looks like its toggling? i dont understand what is not working?

cause looking at the photos

it seems to work?

[trim lagoon]

If u see the images, in the first photo, It appears that i have the toggle on, But the outfit i want to toggle it doesnt appear

When i put off the toggle, it appear the outfit that i want to toggle

[worldly whale]

have you tried changing the equals and not equals?

[hidden loom]

Hi, this is my first time working with "mesh particles". I use a few dripping particles, 11 in total which emit 1 drop at a rate of at max 1 per second and 0.01 per second (any value inbetween those numbers). One drop has around 1,2k polygons. Why does this warning message show 42k polys?

[night ember]

its based on the max particle number

[trim lagoon]

It works, But theres other error

[night ember]

not whether or not you can reach it

[trim lagoon]

When i play gesture manager it appear that i have the toggle on

But i didnt even click it

[hidden loom]

Thanks, I fixed it just now. I reduced the max particles per system to 1 since there will never be more than one drop active at any time on each system and it removed the warning

[worldly whale]

ahh i see

[night ember]

originally you had a max of 33

[worldly whale]

i have had this problem before and i fixed it by swapping the stuff around

[hidden loom]

probably by accident on one of them yes (typo) wanted to have 3 on each but it can never reach 3 due to emission settings

[trim lagoon]

Oo

[worldly whale]

i changed whats idle and whats toggled

just a simple animation change

[night ember]

yea thatd make sense

[hidden loom]

It still shows this many but I can't avoid that it seems. I use 11 game objects with the particle system in 11 places on my avatar after all. Each game object is now set to limit 1 max

but it should be fine hopefully

[night ember]

enter edit mode or sculpt mode
what do you mean by "human pic"

[night ember]

not much you can do

[worldly whale]

just to upload in general youll be fine but if your trying to make an optimized avatar then no lol

[night ember]

although if its a fast moving particle or if the particle already looks flat then you could just use a flat texture instead of mesh

[hidden loom]

This avatar wont be optimized to well. But I generally want to avoid things that outright lag people. I have 0 experience with the eprformance impact of those particle systems though so I am a bit woried

[worldly whale]

like a "excellent" model or a "Good" model by vrc standers

[worldly whale]

fair enough

[night ember]

it really would only cause issues to low end as the stats are more targetted for low end specs

[hidden loom]

The particle system is on a trigger so it should be fine

[night ember]

before even trying to do anything in blender you really should watch tutorials

[hidden loom]

Thanks everyone btw, appreciate the fast help

[night ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0J27sf9N1Y&list=PLjEaoINr3zgEPv5y--4MKpciLaoQYZB1Z

and then the og donut

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIoXOplUvAw&list=PLjEaoINr3zgFX8ZsChQVQsuDSjEqdWMAD

[left gull]

well yeah messing around/trying stuff is how you learn a program which should always be your first step

but expecting to make a full human model when you dont even know the basics of a program (based off all your multi-posted questions) doesnt get you anywhere and just makes you frustrated faster

[surreal yacht]

I'm trying to upload a thumbnail for my character but when I attempt I get this error in the console, has anyone seen this before?

[south agate]

i have a few material swaps set up for my avi but they don't seem to work in game (they work in-editor)

what's more, two of the toggles seem to be stuck on (not a wd issue to my knowledge)

they just. don't turn off

if i manually change the parameter through gesture manager it can be toggled off

[ clicking ]

.. never mind i figured it out

VERY confused as to why that was causing any issues :xD:

[vagrant crater]

So long shot here I basically wanna make a avatar gain a lot of speed very quickly with either a toggle or gesture and be able to launch himself whatever way he’s looking

[warm merlin]

If you changed the settings on the materials when they're applied to a different avatar, it doesn't make a separate material just for that avatar, it changes the material settings for everything that has it applied because you're changing the base settings for the material, itself.

I make separate materials just for the mobile platforms and have texture images set to compress for Android.

[barren wharf]

hey i can't view my hat from the underside how do i fix this?

nvm i fixed it

[somber meadow]

what shader are you using for the hat

[barren wharf]

i had to turn off culling

[somber meadow]

yeah was gonna mention

[runic ether]

Hey there, there's something weird going on with my avatar and I'm not sure how to fix it. I made a wind up toy character with a key in its back, When I try to make an animation of the key turning, It seems like both Y and Z Axis do the same thing and I can't rotate it right

[devout moat]

hello i need help and i don't know where to ask for it because i have a doubt i am new in this avatar thing i never made one and my doubt is that i want that when a person grabs my bear someone can help me thank you very much if someone helps me.

[night ember]

I legitimately cant tell what you are asking

[toxic panther]

Trying to look for it everywhere.
S7 mha Shigaraki gets a longer hair.
Question is does someone have it? I Hurd it's in ultra impact but I can't access it

[pallid jolt]

how would i go about linking this properly?

[night ember]

#1138520828556890214

[toxic panther]

I wrote it here cus I'm not looking for the avi. Just an asset

[night ember]

same difference

[toxic panther]

Really? I thought its just avi finding there not assests

[neat coral]

Anyone knopw how to fix this?

[left gull]

its overall meant for avatar related searches (assets,avatar store pages,avatar links etc) where as avatar-help and avatar-general are for assistance with the development of avatars

same with avatar-quest but its for the development of quest specifically

[left gull]

what do the stats look like in the SDK upload panel?

[neat coral]

^^

im going crazy as I made this and it was fine a month ago now its not

[left gull]

well if you read the errors listed its pretty simple whats causing the issues, your bounding box size on one of the meshes and texture memory is likely the main two reasons but your other stuff like material slots,phybone count and mesh particles are just as bad

[young cairn]

is it just me or did thee limit on triangles change..?

my model is around 19k and last i checked they wanted 20 max

now its asking for 10k

[left gull]

20k is max but if you want a good ranked its 10k

or wait..

that's the limits/ranking for quest not PC

[young cairn]

my last model was the same amount and was ranked as excellent

i know, im trying to make it quest compatible

im wondering if they lowered the total amount

[left gull]

no i mean you're getting the warnings for quest but your SDKs selected platform is supposed to be aiming for windows

[young cairn]

magic

[left gull]

your panel might be a bit bugged, do you swap platforms via the SDK panel?

or through build settings

[young cairn]

i have no idea, i made my first character like a year ago, and now im back to make a 2.0 and i forgot everything

[left gull]

hm try File>Build Settings>then check platform off you're attempting to upload to and see if panel fixes up

[young cairn]

it saays im on a dedicaated server?

sorry my a key is broken

[left gull]

can you screenshot what you're looking at?

[young cairn]

this isnt exaclty my current issue but i apprecaitr the help

[left gull]

if you're trying to upload to quest swap to android, you can ignore the "dedicated server" button stuff

[delicate ledge]

I am having the hardest time with VR Face Tracking - I have a quest pro, have a FT capable avatar, running Jerry's face tracking, leveraging virtual desktop and VR face tracking app with the right IP address for my PC. I do not see any variables in the OSC debug menu. I do see a pop up in headset that says it's sending to my VR Facetracking app on my PC - I don't understand why I cannot manage face tracking! Does anyone have any ideas? PS - apologies if this isn't the right channel for this type of question

[fallow fiber]

im trying to mirror this arm onto the other side but for some reason it ends up in the wrong spot 😭

[young bear]

Mirror modifier is based off the origin of the object. My guess is that you moved or rotated the mesh in object mode without remembering. to fix this, go to object mode, press ctrl+A to enter the apply dropdown, and select apply all transforms

[peak jolt]

Really new to unity, how would I format this to run a 2nd animation within the same entry if that makes sense

[delicate ledge]

Update to this - I now have eye tracking but NOT face tracking. 😭

[toxic panther]

Ah ok,thanks!

[young bear]

you mean having two animations play within the same state?

[fallow fiber]

omg thank u it worked!!

[peak jolt]

Yeah I have multiple animations I want to run at exactly the same time so they play together but not sure how todo that. I've tried using 3 layers and using blending but they don't all play at the same time like I want

[young bear]

have you made sure the states are all write defaults off?

[peak jolt]

No idea I needed todo that, but worked now ty!
Only started using unity today and wanted to make a like a dissolve toggle for my avatar

[cinder flicker]

does anyone know if there's any updated documentation in english for liltoon?

can't figure out how to get the outlines on hair to not be like this. made the hair with nurbscurves and converted to mesh

[celest bane]

Stuck on connecting part but wifi is great it won't let me join vr home world

Is this where I ask the question

Ir would it be #world-quest

New to this discord

[ornate stump]

#1138891887374237706 also search before creating new a post.

[ornate stump]

To not look like that, then how is it suppose to look like?

[young bear]

to explain: write defaults is a toggle that is on by default (For some reason). what it does is, whenever you switch to a state with write defualts, all non-animated properties are set to their default values. with it off, all other values are untouched. I pretty much always use write defaults off since it's a lot more predictable and controllable

[young bear]

try reducing the outline width

[cinder flicker]

is it supposed to be negative?

[young bear]

i highly doubt that. the slider looks like it starts at 0

[cinder flicker]

i feel like something is wrong with my mesh if it has to be negative

[young bear]

can i take a look at the mesh you made in blender?

[cinder flicker]

will show blender in a sec

[young bear]

looking at that, it might be a case of your normals being inverted/wrong? AFAIK most 'outline' shaders work by creating a seperate mesh at render and scaling it along the normals

[young bear]

could you send a screenshot with the normal projection render enabled?

[cinder flicker]

not as dense in the back because mirrored

[flint current]

im trying to add this unity package for face tracking but i removed it but when i try to re-add it it still thinks that they are not new and are causing me issues, anyone know where i could clear some kind of cache or reset this?

blender one is the one that is giving me errors

and not importing properly

[young bear]

it's a bit difficult to tell with that. can you try with face orientation instead? you might want to enter solid render mode temporarily since your hair is colored and the face orientation shows with color

[gentle goblet]

Hmm I added some piercings to my avatar's lips and they move with the face but when the mouth opens they don't follow the lips and I am not sure how to fix that ;-;

[young bear]

the files are still in your project. you'll have to delete the files in your packages directory too

[cinder flicker]

i have face orientation on, but the hair is normally blue. if i flip them it turns red

[flint current]

i swear they're not 😭
im so like confused cause its so simple

i cant find it anywhere like aa

[young bear]

to do that, the piercings are going to need to be part of the mesh that your visemes are on and they're going to need blendshapes to match your visemes. you'll need blender for that

[flint current]

like .blender is just non existent in the directory

or any of the ones listed with the package

[young bear]

'dot' files are hidden by your file explorer automatically. you'll need to show hidden items to see them

[flint current]

i have hidden files shown

[young bear]

are you sure you're in the packages directory and not the assets directory?

[flint current]

i searched for the whole project

[gentle goblet]

Uhh...So um, I am on blender right now and I am just putting together the model and such since I am pretty new to all of this but uh yeah, how do I add them to the mesh..like I don't even know how to see where my visemes are and how to match the blendshapes @-@

[young bear]

you could always make a new project and re-import your assets and then try re-importing the prefab. I know it's a bit of a 'nuclear' option but it's the best way to clean up any unity hangups that occur

[flint current]

could i just copy the assets folder to the new project then?

[young bear]

that would work yes

[flint current]

okay ill see if it wants to work

[flint current]

ill literally do anything cause i have no idea what else to try

[young bear]

i would highly reccomend following a general blender tutorial to get a feel of how it works beforehand, but basically to join two meshes together you select both of them so the primary mesh is highlighted in yellow instead of orange, then press ctrl+j. after that, the visemes will be in vertex groups. they'll most likely be labeled vrc.v_aa or aa or something similar. once you select the vertex group associated with the blend shape, you'll need to move your piercings to match the blendshape, and repeat for all the visemes. it's not exactly an easy process for beginners but that's the only way to make them match your visemes if you're making them yourself or if the package you got them from doesn't have blend shapes themselves

[gentle goblet]

I have been following some tutorials so this does actually make abit of sense, I just need to keep messing around with things and yeah, but thank you, honestly this doesn't sound too bad but that being said I might be back to cry when something else goes wrong XD

[young bear]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=HqIiqpYrQBs you can use this tutorial for reference (i havent watched it myself but it should contain the basics of how vertex groups work).

[young bear]

also make sure to select the 'basis' vertex group whenever you're done making any changes so you don't accidentally modify a viseme unintentionally

[flint current]

same issue

there is no way

🔫

[cinder flicker]

oh yeah i also should have specified this is wireframe

[young bear]

does this prefab creator have any sort of contact information? I would try and get in touch with them since if this is happening on a fresh vrchat project then there's likely something wrong with the prefab itself.

[flint current]

it imported fine earlier

so something in assets is messed with

[young bear]

to be fair i don't know how that specific shader works so IDK if it's something wrong with the shader itself but if everything shows up as blue in solid viewport mode, then the normals SHOULD be accurate

one last thing you can try @cinder flicker: try to make a new object in blender and join the hair mesh to it. OCCASIONALLY blender can display normals correctly when editing but they export incorrectly/inverted. joining it to a new object has caused it to display correctly from what i've experienced.

it's a pretty obscure bug in blender itself and IDK what even causes it but i've experienced it a couple of times when making models myself and that's the only solution i've found

[cinder flicker]

oh yeah also i forgot to actually switch to liltoon in the screencap but it looks the same with poiyomi

[young bear]

if the mesh join thing doesn't work, would you be willing to do a screenshare call so i can get a better idea with what you're working with?

[cinder flicker]

already in a call atm but if you're available in a day i probably can

[young bear]

you can @ me here if you haven't figured it out by then. i'll probably not be on until the afternoon tommorow though

[young bear]

i'd still try and get in contact with the prefab creator if you can, especially if you paid for the prefab

[flint current]

will do

its just issue is kind of cause by me

since it did work in the first place

so idk if they're even willing to help but i reached out

ok this is really weird

now happened to fresh download of the avi and also the face track dlc

even though it worked earlier

lol

[stoic bobcat]

tried importing this to unity with the animation on it, and it doesnt reconnize it has the rig or something, doesnt play its animation, and when I drag it into the window to view the animation, it gives me a error

[flint current]

ill just accept that the upload worked just now with the error

one day ill understand this program

[dark jay]

Does anyone know if theres a addon to rename bones in blender without having to manually doing it

[sacred ridge]

Hoping that someone here can help me.
I'm making an asset that I'm currently trying to animate in Blender then import into Unity. I've never really done much animating in Blender so this might just be a mistake or something but I cannot for the life of me figure out how to export blendshape animations in the actions. I'm at the point where i'm thinking I'm just going to have to make all the animations on the main timeline and split them using Unity.

[sacred ridge]

Ctrl+F2 will open up the batch rename window in Blender.

For bones you'll have to set it to rename bones in what you've selected though.

(If you set it to the same name, all the bones will default to having ".001" ".002" ".003" ect ect)

[arctic ginkgo]

I don't believe you can export blendshape animations, only bone animations. I've always animated the blendshapes in unity

[sacred ridge]

Dang, you can't export them by themselves? That sucks, given I was able to get them to import but only while having the blendshape animation playing over all the other animations at the same time. Useful if you only have like, one animation, but not so much when you're trying to export a bunch using actions

[dark jay]

Ok

[dark jay]

Ill try tomorrow

[stoic bobcat]

tried importing my fbx with an animation on it and this just comes up, no clue why

[young matrix]

HEYA THERE! i was looking for some help making radial toggles as they have never ever worked for me, im specifically trying to make body sizing radial toggles for thighs and booty ect. i cant find videos anywhere for it, i just got done making setting up the blendshapes in blender for it now i just gotta know how to do radial lol

i got the animation done everything set to float and in the tree in fx not sure if i got something wrong there but it still doesnt work

[sacred ridge]

For radial menus to smoothly blend between the two animations that you have, you need to have a blendtree

[young matrix]

mm i thought that was the tree lol. where do i find the blend tree? i can prob figure it out from there

[sacred ridge]

If you right click in the animator field it'll allow you to create a blend tree, iirc

[young matrix]

ah ok

[sacred ridge]

In those screenshots you're just editing the state machine, there you can set animations to blend in and out according to specific parameters

blendtrees allow you to smoothly blend between multiple animations as a value changes

[young matrix]

ahh ok that makes a lot more sense

im starting to get it now

[sacred ridge]

Ye

[young matrix]

ah ya i found a video now perfect for what i need

thank you

[unique cloud]

Wondering about something, I'm trying to control an animation via a radial puppet. The plan righ now is to basically make a bunch of single-keyframe anims and put those on a blend tree in order so it blends between those keyframes smoothly. Just wanted to know if there's a way to do this with a single animation, to basically use the radial puppet to scrub back and forth through an animation clip, else I'll use the above method

[raw plover]

All sliders on an avatar are set to 100%, and all the toggles dont work, changing them in the radial menu doesnt do anything

The avatar does have the correct animator

(i think)

[young matrix]

ok i got it working for the most part but the onl issue is that it ressets on the radial when i click it

any idea as to what could cause that?

[sacred ridge]

There is actually

[unique cloud]

oh neat, that would simplify things

[sacred ridge]

There is a setting on animations called motion time

You can set that to the float your radial menu is controlling and then the float value will become the corresponding time part of your animation

[sacred ridge]

Also, I figured out how to properly do this actually! If you're using the NLA strips to export your animations, you just have to make sure that any blendshape actions you make are lined up only with the actions you want them to play in

this does mean that you have to have all of them spaced out though so that they're not over lapping but i think it's totally worth

[unique cloud]

Oooh that's awesome to know, thanks! That'll really make things a lot easier for me ❤️

[young matrix]

might not be a issue actually i think it was just my gesture manager'

nvm its stil a issue but it does something weirder where i even hover over the radial and it sets it in place

it does that not

the radial itself works, so its just that odd issue that is the problem

[young matrix]

i did have two animation on the blend tree but it didnt change anything

[young matrix]

i found a super helpful tool to just end up doing it for me lol

[stoic bobcat]

having this issue with an animation, when i turn on the mesh it works fine, as soon as it loops the mesh shrinks. This only happens when testing the animation in playmode, it loops perfectly fine otherwise

[worthy urchin]

I have a sax playing avatar that's working but could be better. the sax is parent constrained to the avatar's head and aim constrained to the left hand, which works great. but I have to try to keep the right hand in position manually. is there a way to stop tracking my right hand and just attach it to the sax prop?

it doesn't need to be a toggle or anything

[junior void]

I dont see how that is not clear enough

[sick star]

anyone know how to make it so audio cant be heard from literally anywhere in the world?

[hidden loom]

I have an issue with my Parameters. I created a new one in my parameters list and wanted to select it when creating a Radial Puppet menu.
As you can see in my screenshot the newest Parameter named "coil" which is also named the same in the "animator" tab shows up both here and in the animator tab. But when I try to select the Parameter in the Menu editing it doesn't show up. Why?

[junior void]

Add it to the animator parameters and try again

[hidden loom]

It already is added

[topaz badger]

anyone having issues with the sdk?

friend keeps having ik and grounder errors im not sure what the cause of those are

[hidden loom]

I found the issue. For some reason in my avatar descriptor if i double click here it opens up the wrong list. The menu takes the parameters from another list... I wonder how that happens

[worthy urchin]

I have a sax playing avatar that's working but could be better. the sax is parent constrained to the avatar's head and aim constrained to the left hand, which works great. but I have to try to keep the right hand in position manually. is there a way to stop tracking my right hand and just attach it to the sax prop?
it doesn't need to be a toggle or anything

[worthy urchin]

or maybe i should make an object that floats in the midpoint between my hands and aim constraint to that?

[pastel coral]

How do I fix all this

[ornate stump]

Add those parameters to your avatar expression parameter file.

[pastel coral]

So would it look like this?

[ornate stump]

If it doesn't complain anymore then yes.

[pastel coral]

But that's the thing,it is still complaining

[ornate stump]

Did you add the parameter file to your avatar descriptor?

[pastel coral]

Now it's working

Thank you

[daring nexus]

Having some issues with blinking, went to test the eye tracking and blinking and the ears puff out when she blinks

[ornate stump]

You should check individual shape key and see which of them effecting the ears.

[woeful cave]

need help with rindo, i have no idea what to do with those

[ornate stump]

You just have to import the unity package file into unity.

[woeful cave]

well but i'm confusing with those files under there

[ornate stump]

Other than unity package, the rest isn't really necessary unless you wanted to fully customize the model.

[woeful cave]

now it's become a really problem cuz i'm wanna customize the avatar

[ornate stump]

Try to get the basic avatar uploaded first then you can learn the rest later.

[daring nexus]

Ok, so, I figured out that its specifically "Blink R" thats messing with the ears

I'm guessing weight painting might fix it

[ornate stump]

Weight paint doesn't relate to shapekeys.

[daring nexus]

damn

ok

so what should I do then

I have 0 idea of what I'm doing

[ornate stump]

Set the shape of the ears of the blink shapekey back to Basis shape.

[daring nexus]

ok, I was wrong, it was not Blink R

[brave dove]

I started watching lolathon recently, his avatar can disappear, Ik you can do this pretty easily but nobody seems to notice his name tag, which makes me think he hides it somehow, is that possible?

Looking it up I see people say they use a box with a shader to hide it but I can't find what shader

[daring nexus]

How do I do that

[brave dove]

Nevermind found a shader

[ornate stump]

Edit mode, select the blink shapekey from the list, use "blend from shape" command, select Basis from drop down list in command menu, and change blend to Replace.

[hexed flame]

Does anyone know why when I export my fbx from blender into unity, and copy all my stuff over with pumpkin tools the blendshape tab doesn't show

[ornate stump]

Does the export model actually have blendshapes?

[hexed flame]

Yes, I've edited the mesh slightly

[ornate stump]

Does it show blendshape list when you added it to the scene?

[hexed flame]

Nope

[ornate stump]

So exclude the pumkin part, the exported model doesn't have blendshape?

[daring nexus]

ok, so, I figured out that it,s not just one shape key, its Blink L and Blink R being active at the same time

[hexed flame]

After exporting the fbx and importing into unity, it doesn't bring the blendshapes over

[ornate stump]

Does the model have modifier in blender?

[hexed flame]

How do you mean sorry

[ornate stump]

See the modifier tab, the wrence icon.

[ornate stump]

One concern is that the model doesn't have Basis shapekey.

[hexed flame]

it does

[ornate stump]

Ok that should be good.

[hexed flame]

But when I export into unity the blendshape tab isn't there

[ornate stump]

Maybe try exporting again. Also double check the blendshape import option for the fbx file in unity.

[hexed flame]

Wdym by blendshape import option

[ornate stump]

See the fbx file in unity.

[hexed flame]

Wait, I might be the dumbest person ever 🤣 the blendshape tab is there, I just forgot it was under the body not on the actual scene

🤦🏼

sorry, i'm a bit sick atm so my brain all over the place lol

[daring nexus]

you're gonna have to walk me through this

[ornate stump]

I don't do hand on guide.

[daring nexus]

damn

[ruby niche]

Does anyone know how to have your avatar have footsteps sounds when walking?

[daring nexus]

I'm a moron, I hard Ear R instead of Eye R

[ornate stump]

Make it plays sound when VelocityMagnitude parameter is greater than 0.

[teal field]

how can i transfer a shape key from avatar 1 to avatar 2?

[ornate stump]

Is both the same avatar?

[teal field]

yes

[spark walrus]

why r they still red?

[ruby niche]

VelocityMagnitude? I don’t know where that is-

[ornate stump]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/animator-parameters/#parameters

[proper moss]

I would like to have this rope part of the avatar connected to the shields handle and a toggle so it can switch to being attached to the shield or hanging, but I'm not quite sure how to do something like this. Would this be possible and if ye how would I do it?

[arctic ginkgo]

add a physbone on the rope and then use a parent constraint to change what the shield is attached to

[slow wing]

it may be a silly question but i've noticed on some of the newer avatars this icon pops up for the menu's but i've never seen it before and the system behaves differently can anyone tell me what this is?

[ornate stump]

Just new icon for expression menu file.

[proper moss]

Sorry my bad for the terrible explanation. I wanted to have the rope part go to the shield not have the shield go to the rope if that makes sense

[slow wing]

ok thank you, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't a new system or anything i appreciate you answering my silly question

[lime mural]

Does anyone know if i need all visemes on an avatar

making 2d faces

[ornate stump]

2D face might require a custom face layers so it doesn't need all the shape. But that depends on ypu.

[lime mural]

ahh lemme show you what ive done

[lime mural]

so like for an avatar like this

[spark walrus]

why doesnt unity accept my tpose?

[lime mural]

is missing a couple visemes ok

[ornate stump]

Depends on how you configure the custom face layer.

[lime mural]

i kinda just modeld like 15 face meshes

and am planning on having them shrink into the face

when they alternate

idk if thats bad

[ornate stump]

The problem of 2D viseme is it can't use avatar descriptor defined viseme because of transition between shape will be incomplete. Therefore you need a custom face layer, and since it's customized by you, you could make it however you want.

[still gull]

Running into an issue where when sitting with gogoloco my avi isn't sitting directly on the floor and the upperleg angle is too high. Anyone else run into this before and if so how did you address it? This is a public avi I'm working on, redoing the gogo animation isn't an option, I want this to not be an issue for people out of the box

another angle

[arctic ginkgo]

Physbones can't have 2 attachment points, but you probably could use constraints to get a similar effect. Have a chain of bones oriented downwards, going from the 1st attachment point towards the 2nd, and stop in the middle. Now create another similar chain starting from the 2nd attachment point towards that middle point. Your rope should be modeled and weight painted along this path. Then have a physbone on the first bone on each end. Next put rotation constraints on all of the other bones along this path with both initial bones as a source. Have them decrement their source weight for the physbone closest to them, while incrementing the source weight for the physbone farther than them so that the middle bone has a weight of 0.5 for both.

[proper moss]

thank you so much!!!!

[nova flicker]

Questionnn
Does anyone know how to make eye control two-axis puppets? Something similar to the screenshots above?
I dont know hwo to re-create this to be applied to another avatar.

[vivid temple]

tbt this is not really something you can do anything about, since as I understand it's not a Gogo-specific issue but a VRC/armature issue that happens when you're trying to map motions and poses to rigs that aren't exactly the same, while also balancing VR tracking

even with three point tracking avatars typically float above the ground or sink into it just by moving your head around

in other words, not much one can do from my experience so far, but it's not any worse than how ground contact is in the game as-is. Gogo has the hover height setting (the flying saucer slider) for a reason

[dusk pulsar]

GodRevenger uses this complex blend tree for dissolves and hiding UV maps through Poiyomi shaders. It barely loads up when opening it like this. And over-all, blend tree is hard to understand for me.

Do I re-work everything into separate toggles for easier navigation instead of Blend Tree?

[digital pelican]

Hello good People, does anyone know what is wrong with this ?

[junior void]

Well

[neat coral]

PC and androids keep failing security checks, can anyone help

also getting this on repeat

[long sierra]

How would I make alternate locomotion, idle, gesture etc layers for Klonoa's ears, since they're not default humanoid/biped bones? Would I make a single controller with all of them and put it on the FX layer?

[somber meadow]

What SDK version are you using on this project? You can view your SDK version by going into VCC, and clicking manage project on your project.

[somber meadow]

Your avatar uses too many parameters, either use VRCFury's Parameter Compressor component or delete parameters from your VRCExpressionParameters list/remove non destructive prefabs.

[neat coral]

its a 2019 project.

and avatar is 2019

[vivid temple]

Hi all, simple question. How do you set up a custom on/off animation parameter?

I figured it'd be something like this, but no dice

[somber meadow]

You can use Unity 2022 even if a avatar claims "use 2019" in it's description. Unity 2022 is backwards compatible with assets from 2019 and will upgrade their asset pipeline accordingly. Your avatar is most likely exceeding the 40mb uncompressed limit and the SDK cannot show that due to being outdated, in order to fix that is to remove textures or scale them down in Unity.

you could try using VRCFury's blendshape optimizer as well

[somber sequoia]

ah I love blendtrees. And this fits a lot into a single layer, you'll likely need a lot of layers to duplicate the functionality, each with a performance penalty. I'd leave it if you can.

[young matrix]

anyone know how to turn that back to normal?

[junior void]

What

[vivid temple]

slider on the bottom right

[young matrix]

AH

thank uu

[vivid temple]

np

though personally I just prefer the single column list layout and have that docked to the side

[young matrix]

thats pretty smart

[vivid temple]

though that's my own preference because I've worked with Unity before and needed the console front and centre, and I'm just continuing it here because it's what I'm used to

[young matrix]

ohhh thats actually a dope layout

[vivid temple]

i've also seen people with the console docked to the left where my asset browser is, and the asset browser forming a second column to the right, next to the inspector

which I think is set up so that it's easier to drag things into the inspector

[young matrix]

ya that makes sense

ill prob mess around with mine seeing if i cant find any that makes it a bit easier

cuz i havnt messed around with it at all lol

[spark walrus]

anyhone with blender knowledge here?

[somber sequoia]

sure, see also #3d-modeling

[pallid jolt]

i tried posting about it yesterday but how would i fix this? (while using poses with gogoloco the shoes dont follow properly)

[somber sequoia]

shoes not weight painted right or not properly attached to the avatar's armature

[wild birch]

Anyone knows how to fix this or why am i even getting this error? the Blueprint ID is already Cleared

[daring nexus]

I'm like 80% sure the hand is pushing out the hair, how do I fix that

[keen pollen]

i have the same issue if you ever figure it out pls lmk

[somber sequoia]

are those the only 3 error messages? If not post the first 2-3

[somber sequoia]

those are warnings, errors are red.

[wild birch]

those are the only 3 errors

[somber sequoia]

ah, that's not very useful.

[wild birch]

yeah so i have 0 clue what the error might be

[somber sequoia]

Me too, sorry, there's just nothing to go on here

[spark walrus]

how do I fix this?

I repositioned the bones many times now

I cant get it right

I dont know why it is still red

[raw oak]

Toggle works on pc version of avatar but not quest, any fix?

[somber sequoia]

sure, but it depends a lot on how it's set up. Assuming it's the same animator and animation, then possibly just you aren't using the same parameters list. Otherwise, you'd need to describe what you've setup.

[raw oak]

So theres more params on the pc

Version

Cause theres more toggles

[somber sequoia]

so you'd have to have those last in the list, since the parameter list must be in exactly the same order.

[raw oak]

And they are

[somber sequoia]

ok then it's some other problem

[raw oak]

Ill try gesture manager

[spark walrus]

whgats wrong with my thumb:?

[somber sequoia]

it's not rotated how unity things it should be

[spark walrus]

u mean the bone roll>?

or positioning>?

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure without moving it around. You can try the enforce t-pose thing in the rig setup under "Pose" near the bottom.

[spark walrus]

lol

u tell me this now?>

[spark walrus]

thanks however

with this i dont ever need to play with poses in blender

[sand dune]

How can I remove her "ponytails" without making it look weird?
(I don't know much about these things...)

[tranquil sparrow]

Hello, i'm kinda new into avatar making and editing, i bought thoses assets from the orginial creator and i wanted to know how can i make the outfit in the same hierarchy as the base avatar model

If anyone can help :>

The base model is Yoll4Sotai and the outfit is the other prefab

[foggy hornet]

Anyone familiar with Wolf's Warehouse stuff?

For some reason the Right Bow throw to Left hand catch is bugged, where it just does this

I've tried reimporting parameters and FX layers, it worked fine the first upload I had, but now it's just refusing.

[dark jay]

can someone help me fix weight paints i cannot do it myself

[manic grove]

what ver of unity do i use

[foggy hornet]

2022 always

[young matrix]

2022.3.22f1 but im pretty sure it doesnt mattewr as long as its 2022

[manic grove]

thanks

[young matrix]

no problem!

[sick star]

anyone know a way to make a seat move less so people dont get motion sickness from it? i have it on my chest but i dont want it to move up and down

[young matrix]

i use a tool called toggle assistant. if you dont want to use a tool there are A LOT of videos covering simple toggles

[fathom sapphire]

hi does anyone know where i can find this avatar

[young matrix]

thats a REALLY old avi, so no way of knowing unless you know the name of the creator or avi name

[fathom sapphire]

daaammnn i want it so bad

[young matrix]

u could try a rumham avi world i think they are called

looks like it could be from there

[fathom sapphire]

i couldnt find that world

[young matrix]

let me load up vrc real quick and find it

hold up

ok so search up Rum Ham

its a user and he has some avi worlds

he has like 3 and there are a bunch and its pretty old stuff to

so have a look there

[fathom sapphire]

found it, thank you!

[young matrix]

good luck hunting

[fathom sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-office-dwight-schrute-sniper-gif-25130487

[wild birch]

well idk why but i think it has to do with the custom Thumbnail, on all the avis i couldnt upload i just change the Thumbnail Image to .Png and make it 1024 x 1024 on Ezgif. it worked somehow

[lime lagoon]

thanks sorry i got kicked because i spammed lol never doing that again

[lime lagoon]

is there a video with that assistant?

[young matrix]

ill make one real quick one sec

oof ok its not working

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKatKhlhXLg&t=175s

thats a good video for it, if u have any questions about it lmk i still have my project up with toggle assistant in

does anyone know how to add a glossy skin texture or know of one with either poiyomi or a different shader? right now i just use glitter and make it compact to make it look like gloss

[muted timber]

how do I change which gesture activates which expression?

I made an avatar using vroid but my avatar uses an angry expression for the finger gun gesture and it’s bugging me

I want the angry expression to be activated with the fist gesture

[young matrix]

what i did is clicked the animation for what gesture i wanted to change and dragged it onto the main avi in the hiarchy and animated it to be what i wanted worked very well

i did it like just a few mins ago

[muted timber]

ok ty im gonna go and try that

[young matrix]

mmhm lmk ifu need any help

[raw oak]

Heres the clothes toggle.

And here is the texture swap

Animation keeps going for the texture swap when i go to play mode

[somber sequoia]

without details about the transitions though these diagrams are not of much value

[raw oak]

Alright its something with the animation

[rancid anvil]

is there a way to have the puppet control save when leaving the menu?

[somber sequoia]

mark the variable as saved?

[young matrix]

go to parameter and mark as saved

[rancid anvil]

did that it will still go back to its default pose

[young matrix]

mm i see. that was my problem when i made a radial toggle, couldnt fix it so i just used a tool to remake the toggle

[somber sequoia]

I have one like this which works - it could be that you're using the same variable for multiple toggles? I see there's a head control there too, it's common to have X/Y parameters that get shared between puppets

[raw oak]

Should all of these be zero?

[somber sequoia]

in what case?

[raw oak]

For the jacket to be off

[rancid anvil]

these right?

[somber sequoia]

probably? Without looking at the animator I could only assume.

[raw oak]

I think this is the problem

[somber sequoia]

no idea what that means

[obsidian moth]

Can anybody hop in a call and help me make my first furry avatar? preferably a regulus

[young matrix]

u get it working?

[spark walrus]

i think it needs to be done in blender

[foggy hornet]

Is there any reason why this would suddenly break for no valid reason? It's only the ONE hand where I catch it too. From left to right it works great, from right to left, it all goes to hell.

[left gull]

Do you mean editing a regulus? because re-creating another users content 1-1 is bad practice and wont get you help here

[umbral marlin]

trying to upload this avatar but its saying the head, hands, and feet are not specified, but when i look at the rig, everything is fine. don't know what i can do

[spark walrus]

I feel like when using Poiyomi the normal maps lose their effect

[umbral marlin]

so should i try and change off poyomi?

[left gull]

Poiyomi wouldnt effect your bones and i imagine they werent responding to your message :P

[umbral marlin]

oh my b

[foggy hornet]

God I hate Unity. On one hand it works 100% well, the next it decides "Nah, I'd break"

Almost everything is working BUT the one catch in the hand.

[somber meadow]

depends on what shading type you're using. Flat shading would be the worst at showing normal maps

[spark walrus]

where do I find the lighting type?

shader is toon

i want realistic looking

[somber meadow]

in the shading tab of the material

[spark walrus]

has these

[vagrant crater]

wanting to make his little cloak thing kind of move when my arms move i was hoping to advoid to do it without doing wightpainting cause its causing more issue then fixing them so anything id be able to do in unity?

[left gull]

Does the cloak already have bones on it?

[vagrant crater]

no that was also a consideration of doing cause it wouldnt be hard to rig it

[night ember]

you cant move it at all without rigging or weightpainting

[vagrant crater]

well clearly im just asking if theres a way i dont know of

[left gull]

it needs to have some form of weightpaint to a bone to move

theres no work arounds for it

[vagrant crater]

rigging i dont mind and if i have to go that route id have to learn how to do phys bones

well there is

like its connect to the body itself

so there weightpainting for the torso

[left gull]

is there any for the arms? because that's all that'd matter currently since that's what your trying to make move

[vagrant crater]

no because when i went to go do it. the cloth itself got uber fucked and im unsure why

[left gull]

well the only way to get any movement is to figure out how to weightpaint it as theres no other way like said before

[vagrant crater]

what about phys bones though if i rigged the cloth itself

[night ember]

it would be infinitely easier to just weightpaint it

[vagrant crater]

ok lol

just looking through all my options

[left gull]

phybones need weightpainted bones to work aswell so you'd still need to weightpaint the cloak in some form

[vagrant crater]

ye

[vagrant crater]

This is what it dose every time even when i try adding more

or less

[left gull]

it looks like it might be weightpainted to another bone on the body

[vagrant crater]

Holy crap you just fixed my issue thank you dude!

[umbral marlin]

anyone got anything for this?

[night ember]

drag in a new copy of the fbx

[umbral marlin]

had to redo the whole project but i got it uploaded, thanks

[cursive pawn]

my avatar is setup to disable finger tracking when a certain toggle is enabled, and it works fine with other controllers, but refuses to lock the hand with index controllers? i never had this issue before updating my unity to 2022 and im not sure how to fix it 😢 any help would be appreciated

[short pollen]

Hello, a question, I would like to know what version of Unity I should install in Unity Hub.

[cursive pawn]

2022.3.22f1

[short pollen]

thank you very much

[cursive pawn]

np

[cursive pawn]

adding onto this, when i look in my debug menu, it disables the finger tracking for split second before resetting

[gloomy pier]

it won't let me upload the avatar even know the avatar descriptor is on the avi

[cursive pawn]

try reloading your sdk

[gloomy pier]

does it matter that im using the old avatar descriptor?

[gloomy pier]

tried didn't work

[night ember]

its broken so yea

[cursive pawn]

pobably why its not detectig it, you should update it

[gloomy pier]

how would i go about doing that?

[night ember]

dont mix the vrcsdk to begin with

[gloomy pier]

reimport it without the sdk then?

[night ember]

vcc controls the sdk
dont ever import another version of the sdk

[gloomy pier]

ok

im still confused

[silver plover]

So i am not able to upload my avatar, I have tried removing id from pipeline and removing any extra animator

Any idea on how to solve the BuildFrameworkPreprocessHook would be great. Currenting using unity 2022.3.22f1

[raw gust]

Is there any plugin that can give me a list of all physbones in the hierarchy? Im having trouble finding a couple.

[somber sequoia]

haven't seen one but it isn't too hard to write

[raw gust]

Too bad I got no idea how >w>

[somber sequoia]

iterate through all the parts in the hierarchy, looking for physbone components. Though if you just want to view it rather than program with it, you can search for them in the hierarchy, there's a search feature at the top

[foggy hornet]

Solved my own problem from earlier. Turns out asset maker churned out an update that fixed this particular issue lol.

[dense pelican]

anyone else have this issue and know how to fix it? Me and a friend are both experiencing this with different avi's. We're using content companion and unity 2022.

[sly lodge]

are there any more error messages above? it's more likely a missing scripts error

[dense pelican]

yes here are the others

also this as well I just saw it

[sly lodge]

You can't have any missing scripts on your avatar that you are trying to upload, it's maybe because it was using the old Dynamic bone component and it's no longer supported or you are missing another package for your avatar

if you remove all the missing scripts, then you can upload your avatar

[dense pelican]

okay thank you! I just click the menu for it and then remove component?

[sly lodge]

yes, you can do that

[timber slate]

I keep blue screening any time I try to upload quest versions of a couple different avatars I've paid for. I don't think it's on their end, what else could I be missing that will get this working? ><

[blissful saddle]

I need help with an uploading issue. I keep getting these error messages when i see no missing scripts or anything that is preventing me to upload my avatar 😅

i have no idea whats up with this issue but ive been struggling and trying everything i can think or as redirects but nothing seems to be working 😭

[sly lodge]

are there any more error messages above?

[blissful saddle]

Nope

The blueprint ID error is the only one that has consistently popped up after upload failure

But the blueprint ID section is cleared

[young matrix]

that happened to me once, i just detached the blueprint id then with nothing in the blueprint id i spam attach with still nothing in it. after 10 presses it works

[blissful saddle]

It doesn’t even give me the option to detach the ID it’s just empty and the only thing I can do is either type something in or just

[young matrix]

so just spam attach then with nothing in it then try to upload

[blissful saddle]

I did and it still didn’t work

[young matrix]

or, take a exsisting blueprint id, attach it then detatch then try to upload again

[blissful saddle]

I took a picture of the play test version of the avi ID that and nothing

It gave the same blueprint error message

[young matrix]

hm

do u have vrc fury in ur project?

[blissful saddle]

Yup and there doesn’t seem to be anything wrong with those tabs and everything in it

[young matrix]

if u do u could try redoing the project without vrc fury and that could help possibly

[blissful saddle]

I need the vrc fury with the avi. The creator made it with it and said it won’t upload without it

[young matrix]

did u buy this avi btw or did u get it off a website?

[blissful saddle]

Bought it from a creator off of Patreon and they gave all the unity files

And other assets along with it

[young matrix]

probably join their server if they have one and ask there

or dm the creator

[blissful saddle]

I did and they haven’t been helpful at all 😞

[young matrix]

ah

[blissful saddle]

I told them this is my problem they said try doing this to see if this fixes it and I did but still the same problem so idk 😅

[young matrix]

do u have a avi u dont like or dont use? cuz u could use the id off of a avi u dont like and attach it off of that one just to get it to work

[blissful saddle]

I’ll try that tomorrow to see if that works but considering the play test ID for the same avatar I’m having trouble with didn’t work then idk if using another one will

Thanks for the help and suggestions!!

[young matrix]

id honestly say if that doesnt work just redo the whole project again and just pay extra ettention. sometimes its something u dont realize tille after

[robust jewel]

HI all, I have a question regarding quest avatars using the vrc mobile standard lite shader. FOr some reason in worlds that have a directional light, the avatrs get this weird grey wash over them. It only happens on quest and using this shader (needed for emission), any ideas if this is a bug/known issue?

[blissful saddle]

Funny enough I spent 8 hours of my day with my friend who uploads avatars all the time and they too are stumped

[young matrix]

damn thats wild, hopefully u have better luck tomorrow

[sly lodge]

@blissful saddle maybe it's a connectivity issue, could you try to connect to the internet from another WiFi or 4G connection?

[blissful saddle]

I’m not sure 🤔 I have high speed internet from family members who work from home and also game on pc. I even have all this downloaded to my SSD 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

[lucid laurel]

anyone know how to fix this?

[wanton cedar]

is this just textures or do other components affect the size? (pc btw)

[sly lodge]

probably mostly textures, you can try reduce the texture resolution

[lime lagoon]

how do i insert a pic in the background

?

sorry in blender

[ornate stump]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7NZnSczCKM

[lime lagoon]

thanks

[ornate stump]

Google search show up as the first result. So you should try using google too.

[lime lagoon]

one more question (idk if it will show up in the video im in right now but how do i change the object with modifier

like make the O into an oval or something

[ornate stump]

Why not just using edit mode?

[lime lagoon]

how?

[ornate stump]

Why would you ask? That's the basic of blender. If you want to properly edit a model, try learning basic tutorial first. Look for donut tutorial videos as for commonly recommended tutorial.

[plucky oar]

Hey guys so in having an issue with avatars

[lime lagoon]

ya i was watching that but when i was watching that i was going to make the body

[ornate stump]

If you ask how to use edit mode then you aren't ready to properly use blender.

[lime lagoon]

ya i was watching the donut one

[ornate stump]

Did you successfully create a donut?

[lime lagoon]

have not tryed lmao just want to make a leg first before a donut

leg is the easy part right?

[plucky oar]

When I got on VRchat and loaded into a world everyone was low poly with very messy textures I'm playing on a quest 3s and I tried to optimize avatars but the only options were poor and very poor

[ornate stump]

You have to get the basic knowledge of using blender first. So following donut tutorial is for exploring and learning basic. If you skip, you're going to miss everything.

[lime lagoon]

ok im like a korean lmao skiping all tutorials 🤣

[ornate stump]

If you're saying language barrier is the problem then I can't help.

[lime lagoon]

no it was a joke im not korean but most koreans skip tutorials

[ornate stump]

Doesn't matter. If you skipped, it's your problem. I'm not going to hand guide you every mouse click.

Neither most people here.

[sly lodge]

there isn't too much that can you do about it, you can manually enable their avatars by clicking "show avatar" on the menu, but the main reason you are seeing blocky avatars is because they aren't using optimized ones or they doesn't even have a quest compatible avatar

[lime lagoon]

nahh im watching it right now

[ornate stump]

Also follow along, don't just only watch.

[lime lagoon]

yep have YT on pip

[lime lagoon]

jw my f11 is not working (the pic thing) do i need to fix it or nahh

sorry for all the questions

[ornate stump]

You can skip rendering part.

[lime lagoon]

ok thanks

[ornate stump]

For actual issue, you might not have a camera or camera doesn't point at the direction of the object.

[simple ocean]

does anyone know how i can make the heart in my chest grab-able?
i'm trying to set up contact recievers but i don't want the heart to attach to my hand. I want it to stay in the chest but i want to be able to pull it out of my chest and have others do it as well

so basically keeping the heart in the rib cage

[lime lagoon]

ya i made a wanky donut lol

for 13min i think that is good

[simple ocean]

🩷 gj

[ornate stump]

It isn't done yet. There will be more steps.

[lime lagoon]

prob does not have the glaze

[ornate stump]

You could put the heart at the end of physbone chain, and that just make it grabbable.

[ornate stump]

You will have to learn how to put material too.

[simple ocean]

so theres no phys bones on the heart rn

[ornate stump]

Just create one.

[lime lagoon]

it was not in that video just the making it flat

[ornate stump]

It's a series of videos.

[lime lagoon]

ahh ok glad i just saved it (crashed 🤣😭

[lime lagoon]

if i would make a very bad avi would these skills be enogh or watch all of them?

[ornate stump]

Depend on how bad you meant.

[simple ocean]

did i do it right 😭 sorry

[lime lagoon]

i just want something that works (only thing i want for now is very good toggle

[ornate stump]

Physbone must not control humanoid bone.

[ornate stump]

I'm not sure how you want to "work" to what extent.

[lime lagoon]

wdym?

[ornate stump]

I do not understand what you meant by "something that works".

[simple ocean]

ooh ok! is everything else working? i tried grabbing it in game view but its not showing

[ornate stump]

You didn't show everything else.

[lime lagoon]

i mean something that is not just going to fall like jello

[ornate stump]

Nothing can fall like jello by default.

[lime lagoon]

ok that is good i am watching how to attch stuff not for today but what does bone thing do

this thing

[lime lagoon]

it is ok if it turns out like this

[ornate stump]

Bones are parts of armature, which is essential for skeleton rigging.

[lime lagoon]

and what does skenleton rigging do

[ornate stump]

As for your current progress through learning blender, you had only 10% of all the required steps.

[ornate stump]

To make mesh follow bones.

At this point, just continue watching tutorials.

[lime lagoon]

nice that is good i know im not learning every thing in under a month

real last question how did this guy put the human up right @ornate stump

[timber wharf]

if youre making humamoid from scratch autorig it with mixamo

[ornate stump]

I do not understand that question.

[timber wharf]

preview images can be selected to be visible on certsin axes

[lime lagoon]

his the ball is pointing up right but mine when pointed up makes the human like this

[lime lagoon]

alt r right?

[ornate stump]

You meant "the reference image". Just rotate reference image to the correct orientation.

[lime lagoon]

ahh ok thanks

[simple ocean]

im considering just making contact recievers bc im not sure 😭

[ornate stump]

Grab by contact reciever is lot more complicated than physbone. To make physbones work, create a new Empty object under the chest, add physbone to the Empty object, then create another Empty object under the first Empty object, move the second object so it's on different location from the first. Lastly, add parent contraint to the Heart bone, set constraint source to the second Empty object.

[simple ocean]

'move the second object so it's on different location from the first'

this is correct right?

[ornate stump]

Location as in positon in the scene.

[ornate stump]

Atleast put it where you expect the heart to be.

[simple ocean]

owuh i thought u meant like draggig it o7ut of the body okie

[simple ocean]

ok done!

[ornate stump]

Physbone requires chain bones to not occupy the same location in order to work.

[simple ocean]

😭 im lost

[ornate stump]

At least tell where you currently are.

[simple ocean]

phys bones 2 - empty obj 2 is in the location of the heart in the chest on the scene

[ornate stump]

Physbone requires chain bones to not occupy the same location in order to work.

Did you miss this?

[simple ocean]

yeah that was the part i was confused about

im not sure what chain bones are

[simple ocean]

i put it there because you said it should be where i expect the heart to be

[ornate stump]

That means a bone that is a child of another physbone controlled bone.

[ornate stump]

If you needed bone 2 to be at the heart location then you would have to move bone 1 somewhere else that isn't heart location.

[simple ocean]

bone 1 is not at the location of the heart

its just an empty obj on the chest bone

[ornate stump]

Location as in position within the scene.

[ornate stump]

Then that's good.

[ornate stump]

Does the physbone gizmo show up now?

[simple ocean]

u mean this thing?

[ornate stump]

That means it's working.

[junior void]

You can add a physbone without a child bone tho

All shed have to do is set an end point position at y to something like .01

[ornate stump]

End bone is needed to act as constraint source.

[simple ocean]

its still not dragging in game mode

[spark walrus]

what is cloth in poyimo toon?

[simple ocean]

the breasts are though

[spark walrus]

what is shader cloth?

[ornate stump]

Have you increased physbone radius?