quest-general

[junior stratus]

I did the public test mode method and it fixed it for about 2 days

And then it’s broken again and it won’t connect

[sonic island]

HI so for whatever reason avatar touch haptics dont work, and google has failed me, anyone know why?

[thorny ruin]

Hi

[oblique sail]

mine isnt connecting atm either

i cant get it to connect for the life of me rn

[cyan viper]

Oop

[lavish sail]

Yes

Reinstalling the app worked for a good three days and then Meta just HAD to push another driver update, which broke it AGAIN.

[fading mirage]

Hey

[oblique sail]

wait so is there a way to fix that or do we have to get new link cables, im lost

💀

[junior stratus]

It’s not the link cable that’s the problem

It’s the oculus app itself

The link cable is fine, and I know it’s fine because it’s charging my oculus when I plug it in. It’s just the oculus devs being stupid and pushing out such a crappy ‘update’ with such a critical failure

And then attempting to fix that failure, which makes it fail again

We just have to wait until meta decides to fix the dang thing

[winter plume]

Quest is poopoo

[junior stratus]

Yeah tbh it is but i don’t wanna buy a whole nother headset since I already have the cable so I have to wait for this dang thing to get fixed

[mighty sorrel]

I have a friend on the Quest version of the game, he can't leave his home world, every time he tries it just states the memory is running out. He tried clearing the cache

It seems like it has to do with the amount of objects loaded at the start of the world

[spiral coral]

What's thier shield level set to?

[mighty sorrel]

Doesn't have to do with the shield, since it's the same for empty worlds as well

[spiral coral]

Never seen that problem before

Could be blacklisted

[mighty sorrel]

It seems to be working when I drop a portal for them, so I've no idea

[spiral coral]

Idk

Im guessing its a hardware issue

[oblique sail]

sigh

ok, im just glad its not just me

i was ab to buy a whole new cable💀

[lavish sail]

I just hope it’s fixed soon and stays that way. All this proves, for me, is that Meta could very well just kill the PCVR crowd that uses their headsets if it’s not seen as viable.

[primal jay]

This isn't the first time.

Part of the reason I use Virtual Desktop, because an update has to cripple the OS in its entirety for it to be affected by their buggy updates.

Like they did those two times they broke networking.

[woven kite]

What’s with the audio breaking in worlds?
I’ve restarted my headset several times and restarted VRChat, but any music playing in worlds or ambience always breaks for me and I cant hear anything.

[fading mirage]

Hola

[thorny ruin]

Hey

[old fjord]

hi can someone help? I cant publish my avatar

[steep plover]

anyone else having trouble using quest link?

[jagged trench]

Question are you using the open beta

As one of the video players are currently bugged on the open beta on quest

[woven kite]

No, I’m using regular

[jagged trench]

Okay then that would be something different

[woven kite]

Yeah, I’m not sure what’s going on with it 💀😭

[verbal pulsar]

Hi guys, im new to vrchat and I have some troubles with getting a account. It keeps saying that either i use a vpn or my email address provider isnt right. Im not usting a vpn and i just use my hotmail account

[verbal pulsar]

No I want a VRChat account to connect to steam so I can upload my own avatars and worlds. Im able to get in through Meta though

Thanks for you response btw!

[trim dove]

Just read some rumors that Quest 3 might have 12 GB of RAM. If this is true, that would be a total game changer and open up whole new possibilities for avatar/world creators. Also, that'll completely eliminate all memory-related crashes.
For comparison, Quest 2 has 6 GB of RAM.

Source: https://skarredghost.com/2023/09/11/quest-3-specs/

[verbal pulsar]

Thanks! I did check a does things. Can't find the problem. Hopefully i get a response from the support of vrchat soon.

[verbal pulsar]

yea i got it, i used my phone as wifi! Apparently it was my internet😅

[spiral coral]

What about the price

[verbal pulsar]

in europe its 500

[spiral coral]

Pounds?

[verbal pulsar]

no euro's. They use pounds in England. In dollars its gonna be 500 as well

[spiral coral]

Damn

At least its not like the apple headset

[verbal pulsar]

yea thats totally crazy. And not even made for gaming

[spiral coral]

You think they'll put another camera on it and call it a new product

[verbal pulsar]

to be fair though that is a crazy feature. but yea not worth the 3500

[trim dove]

128 GB 569€
512 GB 699€

[grim oxide]

i have a question for VR users as a Desktop player, which would be the best VR headset for a "low-ish" price?

i know there is the Quest 2, but i would like to know any more options if there are any in a good price/quality

[grim oxide]

thanks for the advice, i thought that the quest 2 may be Cut at the time Quest 3 releases, like, not avaliable anymore

the current budget is almost null, maybe 31/32€ but my sister and i hope to get it up to the quest 2 price one day(before maybe one whole year)

also, we are still minors and living with our mother, so(im 16 and my sister 15)

and current price is currently aprox 350€

we need 10 times the current budget

i've been thinking of starting working on a Cafeteria or something, but im kind of lazy, dont like going out, and social situations are kind of exhausting for me

and out of the waiter kind of works i cant do them, as i didnt really finish high school and got 2 years repeated(im still in "third grade?"
here in spain would be "tercero de ESO" which would be obligatory secondary education) and i didnt go to school in like a year, didnt have the energy for it as they changed some laws and changed books and all i knew i got to redo with new books i didnt understand

sorry for (idk if this counts as Vent), i went out of topic there

both my sister's and my birthday passed recently, and i kinda had maybe 70€ already, but used 20 on a SKY cotl aurora cosmetic and other 20 are going into another cosmetic i was waiting, and my sister only has 12€ that idk if to count into the current budget

so, we have 32 i think(maybe 44 if i can count on those 12)

also, idk if my mom will let me buy it, as quest idk if it is in amazon, as she only buys through amazon and Shein(i dont like shein personally)

nice, so it might be a good option to get my mom to get it to us when we have the money, also, she kind of owes us both like 200€, as we had almost 200€ in our piggybank when we were maybe 12 and 13, but she took it without asking to make some groceries, we are still waiting for it to be given back

so, if we really got her to give it to us we could have it a bit faster, but currently she doesnt have it(i think she's waiting to give it all at the same time, but as she has to do groceries and buy some things that may be delayed some more years from now)

[wraith viper]

Yo what's up gamers, it's ya boi Tricky back at it again with another episode of "My Quest 2 Won't Connect to My PC!" Quest software said it needed to update some drivers, and like the fool that I am, I let it do its thing. Now I can't connect my Quest to my PC again, and the weird fix I found last time isn't working! I'm currently running the repair option from the Oculus Setup for the third time to see if anything changes. Has anyone else had a similar issue?

[floral lagoon]

When my boyfriend go off online it still shows him he is online of me idk how to fix it

[eternal gate]

He lied

[floral lagoon]

No he off

[strong canopy]

https://szynalski.com/tone#150,v1
does anyone else feel puffs of air coming thru quest 2 speakers at 150hz

looking for a way to abuse this as "haptics" without it being obnoxious

[gray kiln]

Either bros lying or sometiems if he didn’t turn off his headset it’ll stay like that

[gray kiln]

Nope 💀

[strong canopy]

is your volume high enough?

try turning the slider up on the page maybe?

[gray kiln]

I always have my volume all the way up on both game and headset since I’m hard of hearing

[strong canopy]

there's this little slider, I think my link set it to 52% by mistake

[vapid wolf]

did they ever fix that problem with the link cables not working

[tame violet]

I have a question: Can I use Virtual Desktop for VRChat?

I want to buy it but before I spend money I need to know because VRChat is the only game I play on VR

[primal jay]

You can play any SteamVR game with Virtual Desktop (assuming your PC can handle the game), VRChat fits that description.

You can't play the Oculus Store version though (even though Virtual Desktop supports playing other Oculus PC games), but I don't see why you'd want to do that.

[tame violet]

ty!! its working wonderfully!!

[green birch]

if youre talking quest 2 i hear a lot of people using the batterypacks that clip onto the back. good for wireless and i heard it helps balance the weight to prevent headaches from the pressure on your face

[rose tree]

what’s gonna happen to VRChat after the new Unity announcement about the price change?

that’s good news

[dense sedge]

[eternal gate]

Basically they have money to tank it?

[high reef]

Especially since Unity has backed down somewhat

It’s still stupid making people pay per install but now while previous sales before Jan 1st count towards whether or not you need to pay per install, it sounds like you no longer need to pay for all of those previous installs before Jan 1st

Still stupid, but no longer bankrupting all indie studios… granted all trust with unity is gone

[jagged trench]

vrchat plus memberships can cover it

[eternal gate]

I think this adjust only affect like small game devs

[jagged trench]

even if vrchat plus does cover it that's still throws a monkey wrench in VRC accounting

like oh great that's less money they can use for making new features

[green birch]

im mostly just sad for the indie devs in this situation honestly. big studios have to funds to pay for it while many indie devs might needs to quit

[haughty coyote]

Ye. Greed is something else. With enough outrage though it will backfire.

[lavish sail]

They expect Microsoft and Sony to pay if any Unity game ends up on GamePass or PS Plus. It WILL backfire.

[river bobcat]

Does anyone by chance know how to connect the quest 2 to PC with link when denying storage permission?
This has worked for me up until recently, and I don't know why it wont work anymore, and the Enable link cable pop-up doesn't show anymore either :'/

[haughty coyote]

If you are always tethered you are better off saving for quest 3 accessories instead

[haughty coyote]

Even if I denied storage, unplugging the cable and replugging it always gives me the prompt again. When I do it from the home screen.

[haughty coyote]

Indeed

[river bobcat]

I figured it out. Gotta tun on developer mode in the oculus mobile app

[haughty coyote]

Even more so!

Yeye

At this rate you'll become too stonk lol

Lmao. Busted

"I want to be the very best Lillian there ever waaaaasss"

Baha, but of course

[haughty coyote]

Lol

[pine sonnet]

anybody know any worlds that are for 30 plus?

[leaden prawn]

smh

[pine sonnet]

meeting nothing but squeekers man

[green birch]

you could try joining anicents of vrc. its an adult-only group

[sonic island]

Hey I can't get touch haptics to work, I'm on quest

[gray kiln]

Only works in some worlds

[sonic island]

WHAT????

[sonic island]

W H Y????

[gray kiln]

Cuz?

[sonic island]

Ok what words does it work in

[gray kiln]

Tbh the only world I remember it working in is the movie and chill world

There’s others out there tho

[sonic island]

hm

[thorny ruin]

Hi

[floral lagoon]

Sorry but he didn’t lied about he get off he was on the website it shows when they go on it I guess new

[eternal gate]

I don't think website is live

[floral lagoon]

Lol will it is

[gray kiln]

As I said then he prob left his headset on

[haughty coyote]

[serene stag]

Its worse than that, it sets the precedent that Unity can without warning, consultation or prior discussion of any kind decide to change both their TOS, Pricing, and with it even applying to customers (the developers, not players, not us) retroactively. Which is really REALLY bad.

Its like saying "hey sign up to use our services and we will completely dollar and nickel you to death in the future without warning, i mean we already tried as you can see"

You gotta have either very fat stacks, a good legal team and financial security like VRChat does. Or if you are an indie, times are very scary and uncertain right now.

I'll leave it at that, as this channel isn't about this topic explicitly. But sadly really hurts the VR industry a lot since there is so many small indies.

[merry pecan]

If u speak Spanish (fluently and can read in Spanish) and want to be apart of a VRC military group based around Mexico dm me

[warped vapor]

Hi! does anyone has problems connecting the quest 2 from the link cable, it used to work but after an update i haven't be able to use the cable, I've been using the air link...
-I updated my nvidia drivers, the oculus app, restarting serveral times, chang the usb ports, check with diferent cables, even the original short one, and nothing, i dont know what to do

[misty flower]

hi pookies

[mint ingot]

Thank god Steel Wool Studios uses UE5 instead of Unity for their FNAF titles, both VR and non VR

and hopefully this doesnt fuck Studio MDHR or the company that makes Hollow Night over

[serene stag]

The entire industry is full of monkey see monkey do.

If one large engine maker does it, its a threat that all other engine makers might do it too thinking its a good idea.

Id say stay on your toes for now. And callout any sus stuff. They could be testing to see just how far they can get away with it. Then reeling back when its too much.

[mint ingot]

Tried using Air Link as an alternative to Link Cable since I cant use that atm

fucking useless

[tulip magnet]

any method of wireless streaming requires a decent network. nothing to do with your internet speeds, just network conditions. that means your PC should be wired via ethernet, your router should be closeby, and you should have as little other traffic from other devices on the network

if you can't guarantee those conditions with your existing network, you should buy a cheap wifi 6 router to create a dedicated wireless network for your quest

[mint ingot]

welp im fucked

guess I gotta wait till Meta fixes their shit and releases a patch for their shitty ass PC app

[tulip magnet]

you should be able to do wired streaming using ALXR

https://github.com/korejan/ALXR-nightly/releases

[mint ingot]

how would you be able to know if this works?

[mint ingot]

I honestly just want Meta to get their shit together and finally fix this bug on the PC app because this has been an issue for a solid week now

[mint ingot]

I would do air link but I need to get a lot more shit for it to fully work properly

I’m just sticking to link cable

Knowing this will probably be fixed soon

[mint ingot]

No one is talking here atm…HELP!!!

[onyx oar]

Anyone trying to play Vr chat with me

[topaz flame]

What setting allows you to grab and move your menu?

I used to be able to grab the menu and move it around but when I factory reset my headset it reset some of my settings and I can no longer do it

[keen pine]

someone lemme use their hulu acc fr

[stiff comet]

I use oq2 to play on pc but the battery dies, I try and connect it to charge while I play but I won't take charg, any way to have it charging while useing it ?

[haughty coyote]

does anyone know where i can make an appeal? :3

nvm it cant be overturned

[gray kiln]

#moderation-reports

[gray kiln]

There should be a lock icon on the bottom left when you open the menu

[scenic ravine]

Hello! I'm new to VR in general and I need help! I was pulling an all nighter and was playing on VRchat but then, my mic on my VR won't pick up my voice or transfer into game. PLEASE HELP!

[gray kiln]

Have you reset ur headset

[haughty coyote]

Hi

[thin holly]

i need some help finding a part

i wanna plug my quest head set into my pc so it can have more power and what not but it dosent have usb-c so i was wondering what i can do to get usb c

[haughty coyote]

@thin holly amazon

[thin holly]

would there some how be a way to make a display port to usb c

could that work some how?

i have seen these but idk if they will work

i have the quest cable i just need to plug it into the pc

[primal jay]

The Quest doesn't use displayport, you just need a USB A male to USB C female adapter.

Something like this

Unless you get one of those cables that are natively USB A to C

[thin holly]

i tryd one of those with a usb-c to vga adapter and it didnt work

idk if it will work

[gray kiln]

Headset

If you use Bluetooth earbuds/headset there will be latency so I wouldn’t recommend

[gray kiln]

Then ur good

[haughty coyote]

is kiwi design's cables decent?

ik oculus link recommends i5 and not i3 but it seemed to run decently on my pc when i used a phone charger

also i got a gtx 1650

and ik these arent good for link

but i think i'll be okay.

i got 8gb or ram sadly

[gray kiln]

Kiwis stuff is always good

My bf has a LOT of their stuff and it works well

[haughty coyote]

do u think it would be worth it for me to buy a link cable despite my pc obviously not being correct for it

i mean it still connected even with a phone charger

and i could run roblox in vr

[gray kiln]

Eh have you tried playing vrc tho

Roblox and vrc run very differently

[haughty coyote]

i tried but my phone cord obviously wasnt doing it

i can try again tho

[gray kiln]

Eh try airlink and see how it runs

[haughty coyote]

tried already

was terrible absolutely laggy

and also my pc is running vrchat surprisingly well

getting a mere 30-60 fps

is hopping between 30 and 60 range

but overall runs a bit better than standalone

i think it just gives a little boost

and despite this cord being for a phone, its doing well

so what do u say

it disconnected but i think its just the cord

[gray kiln]

Hmmm

I mean you could try…?

[haughty coyote]

can I get FBT with quest

[tulip magnet]

standalone or connected to a PC?

also, #full-body-tracking

[short oxide]

Helppp ok so my headset is on the charger and it won’t go past 3 percent

It’s been stuck on 3 for like a hour now

Nevermind

[timber light]

Hey

[smoky yew]

@rocky flame

u play vr?

my brother let me borrow his over the weekend

also can u unblock me im sorry for roasting those kids

i bet u dont even talk to them anymore

[mint ingot]

Wait, did Oculus fix the issue with the PC App and how it would break Link Cable or nah?

[gray kiln]

Here isn’t the place to ask for this stuff 💀

[smoky yew]

lmao

[jade summit]

I thank the Lord I've never publicly asked someone to unblock me

[gray kiln]

Fr 💀

[mint ingot]

Link Cable has been broken for me for about a week now

holy shit Meta needs to fix this PC App issue soon

it has been an issue for about almost 2 weeks now

[gray kiln]

Have you tried a dif cable?

[mint ingot]

I dont have one

if it's fixed in a week and my cable still doesnt work i will buy a new one

[regal bramble]

Game needs to Fix its Memory problem!

[lofty oracle]

Can someone make me an aiv

Avi*

[charred sonnet]

i need some new friends so message me please I'm desperate and idk how to talk to people so just yeah D:

[gray kiln]

Can’t really

The memory issue is because the quest doesn’t have enough Ram

And only way to help with it is using more optimized Avis, OR more optimized worlds

[regal bramble]

well i have more than enough Disk space and the game still kicks me for no memory

[gray kiln]

Are you on quest or pc

[regal bramble]

Quest! the good version

[gray kiln]

It has nothing to do with disk space dude

[regal bramble]

well that Sucks

[gray kiln]

It’s the RAM of ur headset, memory = RAM not storage

You can’t get more Ram on it

[regal bramble]

whatever that is just dumb

[gray kiln]

Nope If people jsut made more optimized Avis it wouldn’t be a problem

[regal bramble]

true

[eternal gate]

Just hide all bad avatar

[scenic ravine]

yes I have

[gray kiln]

Checked ur mic settings on vrc

[scenic ravine]

Yep

I have

[scenic ravine]

Yep! I even checked the ones on the headset and tried plugging in a third party headset. nada

[gray kiln]

Does it work in other games

[haughty coyote]

Does anyone know how to make smoke particles on avatars work for quest?

[dark pulsar]

Anyone wana watch curious George with me

[glacial pollen]

My quest is has literally been turning on, dying, and turning on again repeatedly for 2 days

[dark pulsar]

Damn

[high reef]

also doesn’t help that Meta is bloating the quest’s operating system. Like all the features and stuff they have added is cool, but they also take more Memory to function leaving less for apps on the quest

[pliant galleon]

Just download more RAM

[dark pulsar]

Just get good

[timber light]

Yiooooo

[tired nova]

Hiya, I'm on quest 2 and a pretty bad problem has occurred, I signed into my vr chat account and it showed the window with the big round loading bar around the email (signing in).
After completing that I was just in the blue void, consistently, every minuet or so a pop up tells me to check and verify the internet connect repetitively, but that cant be the problem.
I have tried Re-installing, clearing data for it on the oculus, I did update the game before updating the oculus last night, but I would assume that re-installing it would have cleared any corruption if so was to occur.
I can't actually make it past that screen at all, and no sources online that I can find mention this even existing, if anyone is happy to and knows the issue could I please have some help, I was planning to play with my girlfriend tonight and I don't really want to let her down haha.

[tepid cape]

does anyone know if they have finally fixed the link disconnection crap

[pseudo prawn]

hey, i've been having this issue for a couple days now after a new windows installation

[lunar comet]

Anyone wanna hang out at the black cat?

[tired flint]

Trying to figure out how to sign into the website. I play through quest link, and my username is weird, because I'm playing through steam. Is there a way to change that. and how do I sign into the website?

[gray kiln]

You have to merge it into a vrchat account I think

[tired flint]

how do I go about that?

[gray kiln]

Uhm I’m not sure how it works on steam but one sec

Ayo @tired flint

I found out how to do it I’ll send a screenshot

And just so you know when you merge accounts ur friends and avatars will go to that account BUT it can take up to a day jsut so yknow

[gray kiln]

Did this ^^^ help at all?

[white granite]

Quest 3 details (twice the pe4formance...)
https://youtu.be/KHiAiFAdJqk?si=NVUq8vK2TrDLzvx0

[weak creek]

Hello

[fluid bear]

proud quest moment

I wish you could favourite the error world

;(

[smoky yew]

ive gotten the error world like 6 times

[timber light]

Anyone up for some murder 4

[timber light]

I got that so many times I swear

[timber light]

Ha mines 10

[smoky yew]

oh good for u lmao

[timber light]

lol wanna play

Kinda bored and out of 100 friends added only 1 is online but playing some games with over 50 people

[haughty coyote]

Hello everyone.

[fluid bear]

hi

[visual stratus]

Hi I'm new

[velvet osprey]

Hello!

[onyx oar]

Bro I am literally mirror dwelling and I get kicked two times from black cat

[thorny ruin]

Hi

[onyx oar]

Yo

[thorny ruin]

How are you

[onyx oar]

Good

[thorny ruin]

Nice

[gray kiln]

What’s the point of gettin on to stare at a mirror

[eternal gate]

Day dreaming

While in a different world

[gray kiln]

Makes no snese

[high reef]

I mostly question getting onto a public world to do nothing but sit alone staring at a mirror, and on top of that blocking or muting most people who come near... like at thaat point just go to a private instance

also buying and setting up fbt just to sit down the whole time

generally these two go hand in hand tho

[surreal furnace]

this is why I'm a crackhead

i get full use of my FBT instead of staring at myself

[compact parcel]

Brother who said you should go to a mirror, talk to people

[high reef]

I will defend talking in front of a mirror, and existing with a mirror, but going to a mirror and sitting alone in a public instance and muting/blocking most people who get near is dumb.

doesn't mean I think going to a private world and sitting in front of a mirror is less dumb, im just saying you might as well do that if you are gonna do what I described in a public world

[compact parcel]

Just don't use mirrors

Talk to people and make friends or go to game worlds

People who stare at a mirror and do nothing else is the most ridiculous thing I see on vrc

[high reef]

lmao, im agreeing with you

talk to people

play games

[compact parcel]

Oh right I thought that's what you did

My bad

[high reef]

I think mirrors are fine, as long as you are talking to the people around you and such still. Allows you to actually have a good idea who and what is around you with the far smaller FOV a headset gives you compared to actual eyesight

also helps with expressions and fbt to know you are actually looking to people around you, granted the newer feature that allows you to see what finger gestures vrchat is detecting on your hud basically stopped me wanting a mirror so I know im making the right faces... I go above and beyond with expressions lmao, people have fairly commonly asked if I have face tracking because of it

[pine lion]

even talking in front of a mirror i find to be kind of uncomfortable, because i dont wanna be looking at the mirror, that just feels like im not making eye contact

and i mean technically you cant make eye contact either way but i find it really weird to speak to people if im not looking at their 'face'

[onyx oar]

Listening to music on my oculus

[onyx oar]

And talking

[high reef]

well then you agree, you wanna get on and talk still

[fluid bear]

the only valid reason I have is when my cuddle buddy gets on and I receive lots of headpats

other than that I avoid mirrors entirely

[desert holly]

I think I am having the same issue. My mic craps out randomly. I've tried 3rd party headsets and resetting. Sometimes it takes just loading into a new world to fix. My warranty is up so I'm out of luck. Contact oculus if you still have warranty.

[gray kiln]

I just don’t understand people who send shit ton of money on a headset and fbt to stare at a mirror in a game 💀

[fluid bear]

I'll only get fbt if I want to use it to its fulest

fullest*
and by that I mean dancing

[gray kiln]

That’s understandable

But I know ppl who bout it just to mirror dwell

They don’t even play other games

[onyx oar]

Same

[onyx oar]

I play a lot of games

[onyx oar]

My headset was 200 and I don’t have fbt if I did I would use it in blades and sorcery or bone lab

[fluid bear]

the best fbt is imu tracked fbt

yeah lasers are cool and all but

I wanna snuggle in blankets and thick clothes

[tulip magnet]

"best" is subjective

occlusion free tracking is cool, but I enjoy my shoulder movement and more accurate tracking

[fluid bear]

it's good for some and bad for other things

and a middle ground would be the vive IR trackers

that aren't out yet

the self tracking ones ykwim
those are accurate too, but then again
can't cover them up

unless they also have imus

[wide trout]

just use vives for elbows and slimes for lower body, they aren't mutually exclusive.

[wispy drum]

https://youtu.be/Gs069dndIYk?feature=shared

[fluid bear]

I'll make a better one next time I swear

[haughty coyote]

anyone feel like hopping on vr?

If so dm me pleaseee

[earnest moon]

Hi hi, so just got the meta quest 2 today and i'm having some trouble, viewpoint doesn't change only when i move my right joystick it moves

is there any way to fix it?

[sterile raptor]

heyyeyey if anyone wants to hop on i do too

[fluid bear]

someone pls add me I need frens ;_;

mainly on central European Timezone, I'm a night owl on weekends though

[last oriole]

So let me get this straight

Quest shaders don't allow you turn off backface culling

So I have to duplicate my mesh and flip the normals

Doesn't that result in the exact same performance impact? Or technically worst because it's a higher poly count now?
Can someone help me find the logic in this decision?

[high reef]

that depends what you are trying to do, because using backfaces in a game engine is a fairly niche thing to do. Like its far more common to use backface culling as an advantage for odd "transparency" effects then actually use the backface of polygons as a surface

I am more confused why you need backface culling off, especially if you are about to duplicate the whole mesh for some reason. At least the only reason I can think of to duplicate the mesh like that would most likely be to make an outline effect

[last oriole]

Skirts for example

And the insides of sleeves

They'll be invisible if they're one sided with backface culling on

There's a lot of ugly examples on quest vrchat where parts of the model is ruined by back face culling. Usually eye lashes, or skirts

[high reef]

I wonder, gotta look somethin up

[high reef]

it would be more inefficient to disable backface culling rather than have a few more polygons in areas with a visible interior like skirts and sleeves

also the lighting of polygons is entirely dependent on the normal direction, so the lighting will most likely be wonky on the backfaces. I will admit that matters less with the inside of a skirt or a sleeve, but still is a factor

but if you disable backface culling, as far as I can tell it fully disables that type of culling for anything using that shader. At face value, this seems like it would only double the performance of drawing those polygons since it has to render the backside of them which includes lighting a lot of the time, but this also disables the backface culling of the polygons on the opposite side of the mesh from the camera, so now you are rendering polygons you didn't render before as well since they were facing the wrong way

[high reef]

so to go back to this, it is actually more efficient polygon rendering-wise (idk about the deformations however) to duplicate the mesh and flip its normals rather than have no backface culling on the entire model with double sided polygons

[last oriole]

Quest already has the amazing ability to upload an unrestricted poly count and unrestricted material count anyway, just let me have optional back face culling

Haha

[high reef]

technically true, personally I deem medium performance as the max but thats cause I wanna be seen without anyone showing my avatar, plus not being added onto the reasons someone just crashed is always a plus

[last oriole]

And that's totally fine and ok

If you only want to show medium or better avatars

[high reef]

well yeah, I say medium cause thats the factory default setting

[last oriole]

Mhm

[high reef]

poly count is something that can be pushed some without hurting anyone, tho material count... that one is scary for a standalone quest

[warm gull]

Yo anyone know if an air dust cleaner could be used for controller drift

i know there's the wd 40 wtv its called n ill get it if the air cleaner i have cant fix my issue but if it can id rather not spend like 15 bucks on something i wouldn't need

[compact parcel]

WD-40 contact cleaner

You'll get drift constantly over time so get that

[haughty coyote]

Is it possible to use hand tracking while on airlink?

[torn topaz]

anyone wanna fill in the role of Sakura and Kakashi?

[wispy notch]

Hi, I’m Emily! Does anyone wanna play VRchat with me and my friends in a few hours? We’re in time zone EST. We’re non-toxic, friendly, and neurodivergent! We accept LGTBQ+ :) Age range preferred 17-23. Feel free to dm me!! (I’m 19)

[high reef]

nope, meta doesn’t allow the quest to send hand tracking data to anyone on a pc except developers

[leaden hill]

Can anyone help me? I can't get past the loading screen, Vrchat just crashes before I can get in. I've restarted my quest multiple times I've uninstalled and reinstalled multiple times and I've factory reset my oculus quest 2 twice what do I do?

[velvet osprey]

Anyone wanna hang out and stream with me?

[signal flicker]

sure

[signal flicker]

when this happened to me it was because my internet had a weak connection to the quest, restart your router then headset and it may fix itself

[signal flicker]

I would love to join you guys in the future

[bold sinew]

Hi fellow quest users

[haughty coyote]

hi

[brazen stump]

@everyone

there is a scammer

@minor thunder

[jade summit]

there are thousands in this server lol

[brazen stump]

dont trust him

[fluid bear]

beat me to it

I had to deal with 2 today lmao

[stuck harbor]

I think my charging port on my quest 2 is loose, how do I go about fixing this?

[gray kiln]

There’s lots of scammers just ignore them

[versed crater]

Hi I took a break from vrc for a while and was wondering if anyone could suggest some good groups to join or what worlds are good for making friends w other adults rn ^^

[signal flicker]

I'm only in 2 groups rn and most of the worlds good for making adult friends is probably rooms like the black cat

[signal flicker]

Although I would be glad to hang out with you and find some cool people to hang with together

[versed crater]

Yes black cat always great I tried sundown today that was awesome

[peak tree]

Hiya just want to hang out with someone, hmu :3

[haughty coyote]

Hello everyone.

[velvet osprey]

Anyone wanna hang out?

[bold sinew]

Hey fellow quest users, I would just like to ask... do you think my gtx 960 computer would work with my quest...

[tulip magnet]

no, that's the GPU I started with and it was completely unplayable. I'd also make sure your other parts are up to spec too

what CPU are you using? how much ram, and how fast is it?

[bold sinew]

Not sure, it's pretty fast in most games I play but sometimes it randomly freezes up when having chrome open..

[bold sinew]

I don't think I will...

Ty 🤩

[patent hound]

Has anyone been having issues where when you first load into your homeworld and your avatar loads in, you have an absurd amount of lag akin to a memory leak that basically breaks the game and send you right back home? 😮

[fluid bear]

not really

only happens when I lose wifi connection

[fluid bear]

add and I'll eventually come around with a join request 👍

[fluid bear]

at least a 1080ti with 12gb vram

[gray kiln]

If it’s the thing where it says “sent to home because low memory” or “couldn’t run vrc cuz of low memory” it’s a common issue with not much of a fix. It’s because quest 2 don’t have a lot of ram. I way to prevent this is by using more optimized Avis and staying away from “very poor” ranked Avis and using more optimized worlds

[sterile raptor]

anyone wanna watch house or another tv show with me 🥹

[vestal harness]

Hi everyone, I have a Quest2 Oculus Home environment question with the recent update. ❗
Now that we have legs and more freedom of movement, upon visiting a friend in their home environment, we notice we now have "personal space?" or an invisible bubble? We seem to bounce off each other when trying to hug between game sessions. Sadface!! 😟 They were really upset so I'm looking everywhere for a option to remove it.
.
. Is there a way to disable "Personal Space" for friends in "Quest2, Oculus Home Environment "?
.
(this has nothing todo with Horizon Worlds etc. But that's all that seems to come up in searches) 😑

[acoustic goblet]

heya, 1st day in vr chat

[vestal harness]

in VR mode? welcome!

[acoustic goblet]

i got a oculus like last week, tho i don't talk much irl so im having trouble 🤣

im trying

[cobalt saddle]

Anyone out there able to play music through their mic in VRchat, I would love to do that, and at one point I had it setup accurately. But have not played in a couple years and now I've forgotten. If anyone is willing to help I'd even venmo you if your help is successful

https://tenor.com/view/music-listening-to-musik-hören-gif-26039882

[haughty coyote]

Have you tried YouTube on your quest?

[cobalt saddle]

Index

[haughty coyote]

Ah

Idek if what I suggested works

[haughty coyote]

I use soundboard download songs and put it in the soundboard and play it works fine for me

[dull pivot]

heyy first time in the chat with my brand new quest 2 😭

[fluid bear]

o/

[haughty coyote]

NOOOOB, no jk jk

[last oriole]

I used to love voicemeter banana, but now on windows 11 it makes my mic in discord crackle no matter what. And I've tried like every fix

[haughty coyote]

Hi everyone

[white granite]

How much difference does 8gb RAM make instead of 6GB? (quest 3 vs quest 2)

[jade summit]

I'm pretty sure the quest 3 has 12gb of ram, but even if it just had 8 it would still be quite a large difference for playing vrchat

oh nvm it's only 8 😭

new leaks

[primal jay]

We of course do not know for sure, but at the very least it will give VRChat a buffer that should stop memory related crashing (so most of them) from happening,
The size limits on Quest are based on that 6GB (4GB that VRChat can access) but as both the Quest OS and VRChat itself has gotten more memory hungry I think that calc has fallen out of bounds.

Do not expect any limits to be increased, it would just undo the hardware upgrade and make the Quest 2 even more unusable, also this way the Quest 3 should be able to handle more populated worlds, showing more people.

[austere charm]

Anyone else having a problem where the ground in vrc is higher than your actual ground?

[white granite]

Yes. Thats why I use the "advanced settings" to move my avatar position a bit higher..

[dull pivot]

lmao 😭 I’ve been watching my yt videos

[austere charm]

Oo I’ll try that thanks!

[white granite]

But VRChat really should fix this offset issue by default...

[fluid bear]

tried resetting guardian?

[austere charm]

Yes, my guardian is fine

[last oriole]

😢 I wish there was a fix aha

Or that I'd be able to figure out wth is causing it

[waxen glacier]

hello!

[fluid bear]

o/

[warped meadow]

hello

[junior crypt]

Um i dont really know where the support section is but I’m tryna play project so card and it kicks me out not bc of the lag but bc it says I ran out of memory? I have 14 GB left and I just cleared my world memory? Why is it doing that

[woeful cypress]

Memory is not Storage

It's RAM

Don't manually show avatars you don't need to show.
Stuff's called "Very Poor" for a reason

[sonic robin]

how would i have a lightsource on an avatar on quest? iv seen avatars with working flashlights on quest and id like to add it to my own avatar.

[sonic robin]

vram/memory leak, memory leak is still happening to some users.

its on the headsets side, not vrchats side

[woeful cypress]

Afaik you can't have lights on quest, it was either a modded SDK (which is punishable), or a "fake" light.

[junior crypt]

Oh… sooooo how do I delete the RAM that is useless?

Where CAN I see my VRC ram and how much do i need?

[woeful cypress]

I don't know if you can see it anywhere on quest

You can't "delete" ram

You need to not show every avatar, especially not very poor ones.

[junior crypt]

So wait… I don’t really understand? What’s preventing me from entering a private Project Aircard with no one but me?

[woeful cypress]

In such case you might want to try a reinstall

If you haven't restarted the quest yet.

[junior crypt]

Hm… I See
Ty

[sonic robin]

vram, the world might have too many high quality textures, models, and materials. making it unoptomized

[junior crypt]

Oh… how does one do that?

[sonic robin]

theres nothing for you to do about it

you can try to keep joinin the world, that sometimes works

[junior crypt]

Soooo there’s no way to lower the graphics and render distance and stuff??

[sonic robin]

for some reason, vrchat removed that.

[junior crypt]

Oh…

[sonic robin]

on quest atleast.

verry stupid decision, as i would put my graphics on lowest so i could actually play without intense lag at meetups and such.

[junior crypt]

Yea makes sense

[last oriole]

To be honest, it's probably because the graphics are set to the lowest

[high reef]

also because there aren’t really automated systems to create different graphics settings. For example, when you see a setting for “texture quality” in a game’s graphics settings, that’s because a programmer and an artist worked together to make sure that functionality existed and the artist made separate versions of the textures to be pulled from

[tawny kraken]

Hello! We are giving away free keys on TriviaCrack VR server!

Follow the link in my bio to know more. Thank you

[compact parcel]

Can I get a key to your house

[fluid bear]

o/

[haughty coyote]

hi

[glad surge]

Why am I very poor? 😭

If you can’t tell, I’m still VERY new

[haughty coyote]

That's the performance rank of your avatar. That just means your avatar is not very well optimized for use on Quest. It has nothing to do with you as a person, I'm sure you're great

[haughty coyote]

hi

Hello

hola 🤭

Hallo

[glad surge]

I didn’t know if it had to do with maybe me being new still, thank you!

[haughty coyote]

Nope the "New" is indicator enough of that. It mainly just means that your avatar will not be automatically visible to anyone else. Your fallback avatar is what other people will see and you will need to ask people to turn your avatar on in order to see it.

[woven kite]

What’s going on with VRC?
I’m not able to see any requests or invites from any of my friends and it shows that everyone’s offline until I click on their profile, but even still, it categorizes them as offline users and I’m unable to view any notifications from them.

I don’t know if anyone else has been having this issue

[junior crypt]

Bro but I can’t even log into the game to get those settings 😭

[fluid bear]

the mirror dwell is real

[exotic shore]

where can I ask a question relating to physbones for vrchat worlds on unity?

[white granite]

It did not played quest before, but I wonder how it will be like if I would start directly with the 3?...

... some peoples told me in vrc that the quest 2 is already very fast and 6gb ram is way enough for playing vrchat.

Because the Quest have 12GB Ram now..

[primal jay]

No, VRChat on Quest 2 is struggling and the 6GB is causing a lot of issues with crashing.

The Quest 3 could actually be stable, assuming VRChat doesn't increase any limits.

While I am not sold that the normal Quest 3 (because that is enterprise edition) will have 12GB, I seriously hope it does.

All the other rumors and leaks say 8GB.

https://twitter.com/Lunayian/status/1706917958415495219/photo/4
Seems like it the normal Quest 3 will indeed be 8GB. (last picture)

Luna (@Lunayian)

u/Kimura-Yuki on Reddit claims they were upsold on a Quest 3 pre-order at Best Buy while getting a Quest 2 warranty, and were then allowed to pick up their unit today.

They are unable to activate it. Many images + boot screen confirms 8GB RAM.
https://t.co/YlPNfvqM9V

Twitter · Sep 27, 2023, 6:25 AM

[white granite]

But there is a "Enterprise" version with 12GB, right?

[primal jay]

Absolutely no clue.
We will know in a few hours when the headset is actually launched.

[white granite]

As i know, in the german onlinestore it is already launched. But I cant find it myself. The dude from the youtube-shorts showed this on "Bestware" with the Enterprise and the 12GB.

[high reef]

even 8 would most likely make it far more stable, just not nearly as much as 12... so lets hope for 12 I agree

[primal jay]

Would be weird for the enterprise and normal eddition to have different amounts of RAM, but the tweet above does seem like pretty solid evidence that the normal Quest 3 will be 8GB only.

[high reef]

dang that is pretty solid confirmation...

hopefully should make it stable, as in not crashing stable, stutters and low framerate will most likely still be an issue, maybe a little less so however

[white granite]

The cpu is also 40% faster.

But from where is this 12GB information?

[high reef]

will help with frames, loading times, and stuttering... won't help with crashing at all. Almost every single crash is caused by vrchat using whatever memory is left over by the QuestOS and the process, vrchat, getting killed by the QuestOS

[white granite]

In case if it is really just 8GB.... will atleast this kind of quest3 RAM be faster than the Quest 2? Maybe higher clockspeed or LPDDR5 instead of LPDDR4?
So it will not fill up as much ram like the quest2? because it is getting faster processed or something?...

[high reef]

nope, it wasn't really because the RAM couldn't empty itself out fast enough, it was simply trying to put too much memory... into memory... geeze that sounds like some kinda bad joke but thats literally what happens

basically, the reason avatars and worlds have a file size limit is directly trying to combat running out of memory

doesn't help having a bunch of e-boy and e-girl avatar makers who literally use crush compression on everything and casually have like 20 materials with 200,000 poly meshes... especially taking into account that meta basically states the quest can handle 1,000,000 polys at most

[white granite]

Would upgrading vrchat and its sdk to a higher version of unity help at this point somehow?

Because i heard thqt vrchat want to upgradd, I think it was Unity 2022 because of the shapekey performance there is better or somwthing.

[high reef]

idk the specifics, now I wanna look into them, but yes unity 2022 does come with some performance increases especially with shape keys. That is less however to do with how much memory the meshes take up (although it prolly helps a little!) and more so how computationally heavy shape keys are

like unity 2022 will have some decent performance enhancements, but no one should be expecting vrchat to update to it on its main branch and then suddenly the game runs at a smooth 90 fps without crashing

[white granite]

90fps is not even a thing for me on pc woth my intel 12700k, 32gb ddr5 ram, m2 ssd and rtx 3060ti
(atleast with many peoples in great pug)

But what is with 50-60fps with atleast 5 showed peoples around you?

On quest 3 standalone

[pine lion]

90 fps is not a thing for me ever w ryzen 5600x 32gb ddr5 and a 3080

[high reef]

I could see that potentially on quest 3

[high reef]

I have it when im alone in my home world... then it drops to 60fps and sometimes down to 45fps, never really goes below that unless its a crazy world, a lotta stuff is happening... or well any other reason fps would go lower in vrchat, there are too many ways to reasonably name

[pine lion]

in publics i get around 30-40 but even on my own it goes no higher than 50

idek what i screwed up

[high reef]

idk, I gotta rtx3060, 16GB of I think ddr5, and a ryzen 5 3600

[pine lion]

yeah ive gotta be doing sum wrong

[high reef]

granted my home world is fairly optimized, and I pride myself on very optimized avatars, most of my PC avis are good performance rank, and most of my quest avis are medium performance rank

[pine lion]

im in a good rated pc avi at all times but im not so sure about my homeworld. guess i should do some testing

[high reef]

I recently did a whole reset of my vr equipment and drivers, I had a problem where after about 30 minutes of play my vr would just start losing tracking, like all of it including my headset and it would get worse over time. So I eventually reset my base stations, and also hit the "remove all vr usb devices" button in steam and set it all up from scratch

and it fixed my problem as well as made my vr run better overall

tho I really do only get that 90 fps in my home world

second I go out its gone and is 60 or 45 fps on average

keep in mind I setup my shield level to hide very poor avis by default

one of the reasons I am also never hit by a crasher

like I actually cannot remember the last time I was crashed

[pine lion]

i have everything but the avatar itself off in my safety settings for everyone, including friends

and a lot of avi culling w distance and whatnot

i think my max shown at any time is 8 as well

but yea idk what it is, ill look into it a bit

[high reef]

also depends if you are using a quest on a pc, or if you are supersampling the resolution, for example in steamvr you can set the resolution of vr higher then the headset and I think it does that a little by default and I know I set mine down just a smidge above the headset's resolution

[pine lion]

im using an index lol. think im at 120% res

[high reef]

same except I think im at 110%, doesn't account for the differences in performance lmao... interesting

[pine lion]

something honestly might just not be right with my pc in general bcs i feel it should be performing better than it does but this is definitely not the right channel for that

[strong canopy]

I need to look into my setup a bit more, I feel like the performance difference between high and low resolutions is just kinda low and I'm not sure why

well, might just be that I'm constantly running out of vram too

[strong canopy]

it is a little frustrating that I can't even use driver level RSR upscaling with vrchat

like I can understand not wanting 3rd party dlls from github injected into the game but

[high reef]

definitely could be a problem. One of the main reasons I went for specifically the 3060 over like the 3060ti, well mainly cause having more vram is good for rendering in programs like blender and maya... although as a nice side affect I have more vram for vr!

[strong canopy]

yeah, vram is why I went for a 6700xt instead of a 3070, would've been kicking myself for that one I think

still kinda kicking myself over a 6700xt instead of a 6800, it was like $30 more for 4gb extra vram and much more performance (used)

[high reef]

well if vram really is your problem, a lower rendering resolution oddly enough won't actually help with that at all

[strong canopy]

man user generated content is so stupid lol
probably the real source of my problems

I think I have culling set to like 10 avatars

[high reef]

this sums up about everything.

[strong canopy]

do the graphics settings in vrchat reduce texture resolution at all on avatars? is it just world?

is there a way to keep world textures hi res and avis low?

[high reef]

why I don't take performance as a joke, especially on quest, and at the very least with my usually used avatars. Even me as a stickler for performance think over the top, impossible to properly get below very poor avatars can be fun, I just think there isn't much of an excuse to use something very poor as your everyday, usually used avatar

[tulip magnet]

nope, textures are unchanged

[high reef]

would be an interesting thing. But to do that, they might be able to with SKD wizardry, but I don't blame them for not making automated LODs, basically what your asking for, a top priority

and then that causes even more problems potentially for quest, cause LODs mean more memory usage...

[strong canopy]

well, not neccesarily if it's a fixed lower LOD instead of dynamic

well, I suppose if it's resizing the textures in realtime it'd need a place to put them

[high reef]

if you had a preset resolution, you are then asking the community to put in more work for the kinda intangible idea of optimization, of which too many people already don't care about and quest standalone is the way it is due to that

[strong canopy]

not sure how it's asking the community to put in more work

[high reef]

actually wait... yeah you could automate that

but that also leaves room to break peoples stuff

[strong canopy]

better than breaking my fps lol

[high reef]

if the UV islands aren't big enough or just what they did with their UVs is not really able to be shrunk

[strong canopy]

aren't UVs resized automatically per-image?

like I can set my texture to 512x512 in unity and the UVs are still the same it just looks like crap

[high reef]

I mean yes and no, if that broke which wouldn't be hard then it would screw up the textures, mine is a really good performance avatar but if I half the texture resolution, you can see a bunch of odd problems

[strong canopy]

what does LOD quality do

[high reef]

interesting... I guess if world creators set it up, then it could swap out models for lower poly ones

[strong canopy]

oh weird, what kinda problems out of curiosity?

[high reef]

for example, UVs are just math, they aren't based off the pixels themselves. So if a texture is shrunk enough, and two UV islands are too close, you will see edges of pixels or areas where the texture basically has empty space on the actual polygons

like pixels can bleed outside the bounds of UV mapped areas

[strong canopy]

ah yeah

[high reef]

here actually made an example:

The yellow lines are the UV mappings, and the blue is the texture we want to display on that polygon

The first triangle on the left is at the original resolution that the UVs were designed around

The second triangle on the right had the texture scaled down, the UV map doesn't care about pixels, it is an exact mathematical coordinate, so you can see some grey leak into the polygon's UV on the top side while on the bottom you can see some of the blue texture leak out the sides into maybe empty space or maybe into a different UV mapped area

[strong canopy]

yeah I've seen that happen on my avi 😦
have to space out the UVs enough but I guess that makes sense

still, I'd rather see those on peoples avi and be running at a good framerate

[high reef]

fair

I just don't really expect it as of now, cause this is a fairly complicated thing to fix or even diagnose for basically the majority of people making avatars, since the majority don't even wanna touch blender and even then this is a slightly higher level idea

[strong canopy]

could make it a toggle with a disclaimer

"max texture resolution", automatically downscale if it's bigger than that or if it's not then leave it put

[tulip magnet]

pre-EAC, there was actually a mod that could do this at runtime. it actually did its job pretty well, although it would cause a big lag spike when changing it.

[wide trout]

gonna put in my two cents, I really think it should be based on overall vram usage, not texture size, otherwise we're punishing texture atlasing, which is objectively better than a billion low res textures.

[tulip magnet]

I agree

force everyone <150mb, even that can be generous

[strong canopy]

oh didn't even consider that

[tulip magnet]

although there are cases where a lot of smaller textures are better

if you disable a mesh, its assets will remain in vram, but it will be moved to ram if more vram space is needed

if you have multiple meshes sharing an atlas, that texture needs to stay in vram

the difference in vram size between four 2k textures and one 4k textures is negligible

[wide trout]

one 4k texture is still better because draw calls

[tulip magnet]

draw calls are not based on textures

they are based on material slots

[strong canopy]

my 4k atlas will crash questies on avi change

well, back when my entire avi was atlased

[wide trout]

so what, have 4 textures on a single material tiled together?

[strong canopy]

splitting the textures stopped that from happening

[tulip magnet]

if you have four different materials that are using the same texture atlas vs separate textures, it's better to have the textures separate if not all of those materials will be there at once

if you have a single material shared across four meshes, same amount of drawcalls

they're not batched together

[wide trout]

wait who atlases textures across multiple material slots?

I thought atlasing was literally done to reduce material slots

[tulip magnet]

that's most often the case, but not always

but even if you're using the same material, it will not help if the meshes are separate

[pine lion]

you just scared tf out of me because i used to know someone named groaxy and i misread ur name

[tulip magnet]

there are multiple ways to toggle parts of a mesh using one material, but that may not always be the best option

sure, the SDK will think it's better, but for example with UV Tile discard, the meshes are still there, they are still skinned, you're just not running the frag shader on them

it's better for rating, not better for performance

in the case of quest (which is more relevant to this channel), shaders aren't an option

and for the sake of limiting how much stuff you have in ram at once, separating textures may just be better

[wide trout]

that begs the question, why are you atlasing a texture across multiple meshes?

[tulip magnet]

I am not, I am saying that it's something that can happen. for instance, if you have something that requires transparency, but it's using the same texture as the rest

like if you have goggles for example, it's common to see the whole thing be one texture, but two separate materials (one for lenses, one for rest)

I'm not saying this is the best way to do it, to clarify. I'm just saying I've seen it before

recently I saw a model from Asseto corsa that had the headlights (casing, bulbs themselves, and clear plastic cover) all as one texture and one material. of course, that doesn't work well in unity, so it had to be split to two materials

in that case, it doesn't really make much sense to re-bake the textures for the clear parts and opaque parts to two separate materials, especially considering there is no reason to ever disable one and not the other

anyways. to recap my stance:
in the case of an avatar's body, where no part will be toggled separately, it should be one mesh and materials should be atlased into one.

for clothes, I personally recommend separate meshes, in which case using different materials is no worse than one across multiple meshes, so separate textures means that unused ones can be moved to ram safely

even more concisely, parts that will be toggled and are already separate meshes should likely have their own textures, not atlased with a bunch of other stuff that may not be visible

[pine lion]

would you still say separate meshes are better even if the toggle is likely to not be used much?

i assume not

[tulip magnet]

if it's a separate mesh, and it's disabled, it does not need to be rendered at all, and resources for it can be moved to ram

for quest, I recommend not even having many toggles in the first place

if any at all

[pine lion]

so if i have clothing on by default, and am likely to barely ever toggle it, it wouldnt make sense to be a separate mesh?

[tulip magnet]

if it's on like 95% of the time, you should probably atlas it. ||besides, if it's off, you're likely to not be in a crowded instance anyways kek||

[bronze radish]

I'm hoping the quest 3 will make vrchat run better with less crushing

[solid herald]

what would be the best method to have full body tracking for quest 2

[jagged trench]

It has 8 gigs of RAM so yes it should crash less but still probably going to have a hard time having like a 80 person instance on quest

[bronze radish]

Never been to one with 80

They get that big?

[tulip magnet]

if people use reasonable avatars, yes

[jagged trench]

Yes at dance club events

[faint fossil]

Hello

Does anybody wanna play?

I have nobody to play with

[dapper loom]

They should 100% add a playspace mover to quest two vrchat

[gray kiln]

Not gonna happen

Plus play space mover is something you have to download through steam (if I recall correctly) and it wouldn’t be up to vrchat to add that lol

[faint fossil]

AYO

[stark pike]

i love miners

⛏️

[faint fossil]

oh yes miners from Minecraft

[agile knoll]

is this reasonable for an avatar with 2d lipsync with blendshapes for quest

the face animator is the only think making it poor performance im pretty sure

it has phys bones and a collider aswell

im not sure what the standard is for quest models

[haughty coyote]

Inviting you to head over to #avatar-quest and the other help channels...
And yes, this is reasonable. But you don't need two animators, just a single one. You can just delete the other one and make the animations in the first one, etc. etc.

[inland moss]

So excited, even though I'm probably never even gonna try vrchat on quest now that I play on PC

[haughty coyote]

Just...be ready to cancel. We only got some demos today. Which was people waving their hands.

Standalone, get it.
PCVR, maybe Pico4 is better (if in US like me, maybe Pico4?)
Quest 3 sacrificed the second fan, and the controller's cameras, to focus on augmented reality to expand to non-VR consumers
For standalone gaming, it's going to suffer. But the real decision is how well the controllers track (in dark, behind your back, etc.)
Pico4 right now has a legitimate chance of defeating their next-gen headset, so just remember to check out comparsion videos as they release!

[inland moss]

I'm gonna be using it as a hybrid setup, doing both standalone and PCVR. Also, oculus has exclusives that I like to play, and controller tracking being limited is fine with me. I'm also getting it for better performance, the quest 2 is really starting to show it's age. Also I'm intrigued by the super slim design

But thank you for the info!

[haughty coyote]

Quest 3 is only 20-40% better in standalone, else it depends on your PC. It doesn't come with any elite headstrap, but Pico 4 does
So Quest 3 wins if you need to upgrade without caring, otherwise Pico4 wins:
Pico:
*slightly worse lenses but bigger
*same controllers as Quest 2, but if Quest 3's controllers aren't better then....same?
*Pico comes with a comfortable strap, just no extra batter. Nor does Quest 2/3
All in all, for PCVR gaming, Pico4 the Quest 2 clone, wins

But we're still getting more info. I still thibk that Quest3 needs to announce a huge feature to win

Like, that we can use Quest 2 controllers on it, or use one controller in VRChat and 1 hand for hand tracking

If they lack these features, get Pico4 for PCVR. If you need standalone, get a Quest 3 instead of a 2 (2 replacement parts are running out)

[strong canopy]

called it -- knew they were gonna use the rgb cameras too for hand tracking, exciting 🙂

maybe it won't be borderline unusable anymore

[strong canopy]

buy it from best buy or something, can return it no hassles until like january & you'll probably get it quicker than from meta.com judging by quest 2/pro launch

I wanna order one even though I know I should wait

ooohhh zenni has vr prescription lenses now too, might have to order a pair when I get another set of glasses

[inland moss]

One word. Scalpers.

That's why I wanted to preorder, cause I know for damn sure it's gonna be scalped like crazy just like the quest 2 was

And honestly I need a new headset anyways, my quest 2 isn't in the best condition (mostly cosmetic wear, but the controllers have been through a lot.)

So I know I'm not gonna feel the need to return the 3

[strong canopy]

Best buy has pre-orders

Launch day pickup at your local store too

[white granite]

What would be better for VRChat Quest?

Playing on a Quest 3 with 8GB or the older Quest 2 pro with 12GB?

[dusty atlas]

Quest 3 8GB. If you're doing standalone, just go for the new one.

Or maybe the pro.... Lemme check specs really quick

Okay. After reading the specs for a bit, and doing some googling on their chips and other such details.... Quest 2 pro might be better. More storage out of the box by default, proven to have good quality performance, and it's hinted that touch pro controllers are better, as people can upgrade from the Quest 3 touch plus to the touch pro.

Either wait a while for details of the quest 3 to come out for a more accurate comparison and get what you want based on that, or go for the Quest pro and play it safe early on for an already proven headset

[cosmic lantern]

Hello idk what I did but when I’m using my right controller to look around it’s only looking bit by bit instead of a full clean 360 and I’m unsure how to reset it back

Also how can I add discord to my headset for when I’m in game if that’s possible 🙂

[sinful niche]

Can anyone help me? Pls its been like this for about four hours now and idk wat to do. If u can help me dm me

Pls help

[flat finch]

Maybe try turning it off and on again?

[strong canopy]

I'm gonna say pro, pretty much only issue I have with it on regular q2 is running out of ram constantly

I can't imagine an extra 2g will make much of a difference, but an extra 6g might

also has eye tracking which is kinda cool

orrr -- you could scoop up a regular quest 2 and put the money saved into a PC to run it, can often find quest 2 for like $150 on fb marketplace

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[scarlet maple]

anyone know if you can still sideload with Quest3?

[cosmic lantern]

????

Anyone ??

I’ve been waiting since 10am for anseer can someone help me out here please

[scarlet maple]

no idea

[primal jay]

Fairly sure it is called smooth turning in the settings.

[high reef]

unless meta actually attacks sidequest and makes it harder to side load, then no. I expect it might take a couple of days for side quest to update if it needs to, but otherwise I don't see why it wouldn't work

[scarlet maple]

cool

[charred dust]

Im getting the quest 3

[vague coral]

Yooo

Lookin forward to get quest 3

Saw quest 3 has 2 displays, and quest 2 has 1

Thought i used ar glasses with 2 displays and my eyes hurt, used phone-vr and my eyes hurt

Will the same ghost image problem, and display from one eye and other eye not getting onto eachother will be on quest 3.

[high reef]

only thing this actually changes is the IPD slider will have more then three settings

[vague coral]

ok

And how much better will the resolution be?

[high reef]

idk, prolly not way too much higher

would make rendering that much harder and the extra power from the newer cpu be less useful

but the lenses are a huge bonus, they are pancake lenses instead of fresnel lenses

[vague coral]

Btw amd or nvidia for vr?

[vague coral]

?

[cold dagger]

Hey

[shrewd grove]

Hello

[cold dagger]

How are u

[shrewd grove]

I’m doing ok, what about you?

[cold dagger]

I am doing eh

[shrewd grove]

Eh?

I’m guessing something happened?

[haughty coyote]

just bought muh quest 3

[agile pendant]

thats cool

[shrewd grove]

Wait the quest 3 is out already?

[haughty coyote]

preorders are

expected to arrive on oct. 10th

[shrewd grove]

Ohhh ok. That’s a lot sooner than I thought. How much are they?

[haughty coyote]

128GB models are 500 and shipping was free (for me at least)

not so sure about the other model

[severe rapids]

I believe it's $650 US

[shrewd grove]

Oh damn that’s a lot-

[floral lagoon]

Please update new background on vr +plus

[gray kiln]

Bruh what?

[quasi dirge]

whats your average battery life on your quest 2? im getting about 2hrs and its draining even when plugged in. is my cable bad?

[gray kiln]

The quest twos play time is 2hours. But over time the battery wears down (like all battery’s) and if you play while ur headsets plugged in that drains the battery even more so over time it’ll stop charging.

You can try a new cord, but sometimes it’s just the batterie

[quasi dirge]

itll run about 2hrs with the battery as it is i was just wondering

so its better not to play with the charge cable?

do you guys run like external batteries or anything?

[gray kiln]

You can get extended battery packs yes

[quasi dirge]

What set up do you guys use I'm kind of new to vr stuff just fiddled with it so far.

[blissful cedar]

Can somebody please tell me how to fix tunnel vision in VR chat

[gray kiln]

Wdym by setup?

[quasi dirge]

Nvm thanks for answering my questions

[trim dove]

Quest 3 can track your upper body just using its cameras, it's the worlds first headset to feature accurate upper body tracking without any external sensors...

and also legs! But for legs it's just an AI estimation, so it's not very accurate, and some movements like crossing your legs cannot be tracked at all, but still, that's amazing.

https://www.uploadvr.com/quest-3-body-tracking/

[fluid bear]

I run a battery headstrap, gives me around 4-5 hours playtime on vrc

[charred dust]

My VRC is bugged in my quest 2 is there a way to reset the game and fix it

Because my character floats when I try clicking the sit and stand up

And sometimes my camera glitches out when taking a picture

[stuck harbor]

My quest 2 refuses to charge. I’ve used different cables, outlets, whatever. I took it to the store today and suddenly it charges, I assumed it was the cable they were using and bought it. But when I plug it in at home, it still one charge. Is it the outlets in my house? Idk what to do

[dawn matrix]

I have no idea why it won’t charge

[steep crescent]

unfortunately so expensive

looking at 700€ if you want to have a decent headstrap + battery

650€ without extra battery

but the battery is good for being a counter weight

but the price is why i will buy a pico 4 instead.

it has lots of quest 3s hardware features already + by default a decent headstrap already with battery

since i only plan to use it for pcvr 700€ is too much for any of these kind of headsets. I would be close to index price already

[high reef]

Technically you would be over index price, well if you already have base stations and controllers hence why its a "technically." The index headset by itself not as the kit is $500 or about €540

[vague coral]

body tracking?

[steep crescent]

Huh?

[vague coral]

.

[steep crescent]

No it doesn't have that. But idk if that even would work with pcvr

[narrow tusk]

Most likely how you set up guardian or how the avatar is set up isnt alined correrctly.

[narrow tusk]

I'd assume the outlit you are trying to plug it in A doesn't function, B your plug might not be compatible for the headset to charge, hoesntly never had that issue so idk.

[dapper loom]

Niko pfp woah

[stuck harbor]

Idk I turned it off completely a few hours ago and plugged it in and it started charging? Or at least there was an orange light. I checked it just now and it didn’t charge at all, I have no idea how to fix this 😭

I’ve tried pretty much every outlet in my house btw, nothing works

[narrow tusk]

are you using offical cables

by meta

[stuck harbor]

No, I’m not.

I’ve not been using the official ones for the past two years.

[narrow tusk]

You might of destoried your batteries

you have a charing port issue

[stuck harbor]

Could be… I’m just confused by the fact that it managed to charge when I took it to the store?

[stuck harbor]

I think so too

[narrow tusk]

yeah i dont know what you can for that, but there is reasons to why meta says use offical cables

[steep crescent]

Aren't the official ones completely overpriced?

Like one is like 80€ or something

[high reef]

they are overpriced, but you also need to be careful buying your own cables from a 3rd party. Basically, get a 3rd party cable for cheaper, but to be safe, also don't go for one of the cheapest cables you can find

cause they might under or over do something while charging messing with the battery that was most likely designed with a fixed charger cable in mind

[trim perch]

I am going to get quest 3

[steep crescent]

Since i have a Quest 1 i luckily have a very long cable by default

[stark pike]

thanks, i like yours too lmao

[fringe pike]

why still no damn fix for garbage collector running twice at the same frame

always kicks out of current instance for not enough memory

[velvet falcon]

is quest 2 worth it over rift s

its like abit more money

[dusty atlas]

Yesn't

Better to just wait.

The quest 3 is coming out soon.

[strong canopy]

I'm feeling really validated with my predictions for this launch

got called crazy for even theorizing that that'd be possible

and the fact that they're using hand tracking on the color cameras now too in addition to IR -- hand tracking hopefully also shouldn't be garbage because it's got color to look at instead of just black & white

[fringe pike]

as well every instance just kick you whenever it loads for more than 2 mins

why these checks exist

[strong canopy]

if it's loading for more than 2 minutes you were never going to have a stable connection to the instance

it may be worth looking into running a bufferbloat test on your router and/or getting a new one if yours doesn't have any QoS options

I'm on a 12mbit down / 1 mbit up DSL connection and I can play the game just fine, but I used to run into problems like that on every game until I got a router that wasn't crap

[strong canopy]

absolutely, rift S is a piece of junk, I've owned both

[velvet falcon]

oh💀

thanks

[strong canopy]

ended up giving rift S away for free

got it for free too though 😆

[velvet falcon]

so defo not worth it

[strong canopy]

nah

[velvet falcon]

shame, it looked promising

[strong canopy]

if you want the slightly lower latency the Rift S offers there are better cheaper options used, but just get a quest 2 imo

I was just looking at a rift cv1 on facebook for $65

https://vr-compare.com is a really helpful website btw -- keep in mind on paper specs don't always translate to a better experience, but

I wonder if it'd be possible to hot air the 12GB LPDDR5 IC that they use on the quest pro onto the 3 -- someone would have to be mentally insane to try it but I've seen it done with success on GPUs and computers, but then also it's a new SOC generation so who knows??

I could see someone being stupid enough to try it on a quest 2 considering you can scoop em up for like $100 on facebook every now and then, plus they're same SOC gen

well, I'm also making the assumption that the quest pro's 12GB isn't just 2x of the quest 2's 6GB next to each other..

[robust snow]

Is vr chat still like a minecraft lag world when loading in

[tame wyvern]

Mmd home any type of instance is literally loading time is way too long. Does anybody else get that?

[gray kiln]

Check ur internet speed or clear ur cache

[white granite]

@dusty atlas @high reef
Besides of the 2GB more Ram the Quest 3 now have and since the latest news, also "Inside-out Fullbody tracking"...
How much better will be VRChat based on the 40% faster CPU?

They all say, how much faster the CPU now is and that its performance comes very close to PCVR-Graphics in Standalone Games. But how much impact does the 40% faster processor now have to VRChat Quest?

(Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2 Gen 1 vs Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2 Gen 2)

[high reef]

the chip performance will help performance at least a little bit, like it should be a noticeable improvement in framerate and such just don't expect consistent high fps. It will still be vrchat with lower fps with any amount of avatars loaded, but it will be like 25-30fps instead of 10-15.

The "full body" is just upper body at best, so the most I believe you might get out of that is vrchat allowing a simulated hip tracker on quest 3.

The RAM is one of the biggest ones I personally feel because thats the cause of the majority of crashes on quest are due to running out of memory, aka RAM. So, having more, even if just two GB, should be enough to not totally prevent memory related crashes but make them far less common.

[white granite]

30fps instead of 15 sounds like a big difference, thanks!

[high reef]

dont quote me, idk really what it will be. I am sure it will be a noticable increase in fps for a quest 2 and quest 3 running the same world and avis, but idk the actual numbers, I just pulled those outta thin air as an example

[white granite]

I dont have a quest 3 yet, but I wonder if VRChat is already supporting the Quest 3 new Fullbody tracking by default or do they have to add support to it first?

(Inside-Out Body Tracking + Generative Legs = Full Body Synthesis)

[haughty coyote]

i reccomend a kiwidesign cable

slightly faster than the offical cables and are cheaper

[eternal gate]

The what?

Q3 doest have inside out

[white granite]

What are you talking about?

[eternal gate]

Quest 3

Has inside out？

[white granite]

Did not all Quest Headset have Inside out tracking? Or do you still need those Table Sensors that have to look at you like on the Oculus CV1

[eternal gate]

Only quest pro has cam on controllers

[white granite]

Why do you think I am talking about the Controllers?

[eternal gate]

I don't think quest3 inside out tracking is enough for fbt

[white granite]

they have 2 cameras under the headset to see your upper body and they use AI to calculate your lower body movements based on your arms and upper body.

[eternal gate]

Um I don't see any news about that

[eternal gate]

The two camera under quest are quite tiny

How it even track ur eye lol

[white granite]

I dont own it yet, but I see the latest news about this device.

There are just 3 games right now that announced to support this full body tracking inside out of the Q3 and I hope VRChat will add support for it too!

they even want to experiment to add it as an update to the Quest 2, even if it is not that good like on the Q3

[eternal gate]

I think the result would be similar

The only new cameras are infront

[white granite]

https://youtu.be/H5cMJ3NSxto?si=_F-rHi7hgLOHQd4m&t=221

Timestemp: 3:41

Timestemp 2:08 for seeing the FBT quality of the legs.

[eternal gate]

Oh my

They look fantastic

[high reef]

The most I can really see coming from the quest's inside out upper body tracking is a simulated chest and more likely hip tracker, but even with some kinda lower body estimation, I don't see the point of using it for emulated full body trackers or something, it just would be at best slightly better inverse kinematics

[tame wyvern]

Neither of those things are the problem my internets working fine and I cleared my Kacha and I still couldn’t get into the world yesterday. You’re probably quest PCVR so you’re used to just literally just giving me stuff and not accepting the fact

[high reef]

also im highly doubtful of the extent of Meta talking about anything leg or body related... I mean they only recently actually got legs in their metaverse app thing, and you cannot even see your own, AND for the announcement of adding legs, they lied about what it would look like by using a full blown motion capture setup as their reveal.

[high reef]

MMD worlds are always going to take a long time to load in the best of circumstances, even for PCVR. You are loading a lot of animation data, and with the Quest idk how it would handle it

[tame wyvern]

The day before yesterday it work fine for me

[high reef]

I personally don't do MMD worlds all that often, basically just for a laugh with a friend who enjoys them, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are wonky on quest

since clearing cashe didn't work, you might need to reinstall vrchat if you haven't but otherwise idk why you cannot seem to load a given world

[gray kiln]

No I’m not I’m qiest standalone

[high reef]

serious question, I have only really ever done pcvr, what is the average framerate on quest standalone in vrchat?

[gray kiln]

If ur in an optimized enoigh world I get like 30-40

Other then that it’s usually 20 or worse

It’s really not that good 😂

[gray kiln]

Have you tried using a different home world

[high reef]

dang, hearing this makes me actually feel the worth behind me taking time to properly optimize my avatars

I wouldn't say I save frames for questies... but at least I don't take em away

[gray kiln]

Yep ;-; 😂

[high reef]

proud of the fact all my recent and up and coming avatars will have a medium quest version at most

[gray kiln]

Yippeee

[steep crescent]

Damn i don't even consider that playable anymore

[gray kiln]

I’m used to it now

And the constant lag spikes :/

If only things were more optimized 😭

[dusty atlas]

40% should make performance smoother, but other than that... idk

[steep crescent]

2GB more RAM tbh is barely anything more

Gonna load 3 avatars more than usual before crashing lol

If it would have actually been 12GB it would be better

But 2GB more is barely an improvement

[gray kiln]

Sadly

[high reef]

I actually disagree. We have to realize that VRChat only really has access to like 3GB of the memory on a Quest 2, the rest is taken by the OS and background stuff. So it’s closer to adding 2GB to what was only 3GB rather then only adding 2GB to what was 6GB

so relative to what VRChat has on a quest 2, the quest 3 has a lot more memory to offer

how much this will help we shall have to wait and see

[obtuse crest]

What is up yodi fammmmm

[subtle thunder]

How many of you have stick drift on your quest controllers?
Asking to prove a point to someone

[gray kiln]

What is the point ur proving…?

[subtle thunder]

To my friends parent because they think he’s purposely damaging the controllers

[gray kiln]

Quest controllers are prone to get stick drift

It happened to mine even tho I wasn’t using them a lot

[strong canopy]

they need to just stop being stupid and make a hall effect joystick

they aren't that expensive, there is no excuse for them to be garbage potentiometers

hall effect joysticks have no wear items and they are so precise they don't even need a deadzone

[strong canopy]

wait actually? that's really exciting

didn't realize so much was taken by the OS

gpu is also not actually garbage so might be able to render above 15fps too lol

[heavy vessel]

In my vr it synced but in this app I’m confused

[haughty coyote]

Double check the system isn’t malfunctioning

[heavy vessel]

How can I double check?

[haughty coyote]

There’s a files app on the quest, use that to check

[heavy vessel]

Some pictures are synced

[haughty coyote]

Ok, try syncing them all

[heavy vessel]

Completely all?

[haughty coyote]

Yea

[heavy vessel]

Imma do it next week since I don’t play vr much, will tell you next week

[earnest terrace]

woah me and my friends controllers are drifting too simultaneously at the same time, but its only in vrchat

[quaint tree]

Yo does anyone else have this problem where they can’t speak? It was good as soon I joined a friend I wasn’t able to talk 🤦🏽‍♂️

I restarted my oculus and shot like dat and still nothing

[simple sun]

anyone tryna watch a movie or sum

[rough badge]

Are you not able to allow poorly optimized avatars on quest?

[fluid bear]

anyone wanna hang out in an hour or so I'm loenly ;-;

[high reef]

You are, but not automatically, you will have to manually show the avatar of anyone with a very poor quest version, if you could bypass this, you would almost guaranteed crash in any public world you went to within a minute

[rough badge]

There's no option to just disable this

My friends avatar is considered very poor"

[high reef]

You can do it on a case by case basis, just open up that menu stuck to your hand that you join worlds and select avatars through, select them with your other hand, and look for the eye icon and select “show avatar”

But you cannot automatically show every very poor avatar

[rough badge]

How do I get to the avatar my friend is using?

[high reef]

You select the person, not the avatar

When you open that square menu on one hand, the other hand gets a laser pointer

Point that laser that them and hit the trigger

Now that menu box you opened on your hand is showing you that user’s info, look for an eye that says “show avatar” and select it

[rough badge]

As in when the "pill" appears around them?

[high reef]

Yeup

[rough badge]

Alright

I'll try that

[tired flint]

I'm fairly new to vr chat, but I've heard that there are battery packs for the quest? The only problem with that is I have a quest link cable. Is there anyway to have a battery pack and a quest cable? I'm tired of constantly losing battery.

I even have to put all my graphics on lowest and shield settings all the way up at times.

[haughty coyote]

No. If you have an official link cable and still having battery problems, you might have a bigger issue.

[tired flint]

It's not a major issue, but it's still really annoying yk? I can be on for maybe a couple hours at a time, but then I run out of battery

[haughty coyote]

Generally when I'm connected via cable I gain charge. The only thing I could recommend is using Airlink. You'd be able to plug in a battery pack then.

[tired flint]

I do connect through a usb hub, I wonder if that could have anything to do with it? but I almost feel like having that hub would allow for more power to go to it

[haughty coyote]

You're best bet is connected to a usbc port on your PC directly. The hub would only be an option if it was a powered one. Maybe.

[tired flint]

I have the hub connected to my laptop because I don't have enough slots. I wonder if a problem could be the amount of power the hub is rated for? Because my hub is also connected to a power cord. I also have 2 other slots being used by the hub so maybe they could be pulling some of that needed power. I will probably try directly to my computer though

[haughty coyote]

If anything, at least test a direct connection and see if you have any differences

[tired flint]

How do I go about testing? is it literally just seeing if the battery last?

[haughty coyote]

Yep

[tired flint]

Cool. Thanks for the help.

[haughty coyote]

Let me know what you find. Generally speaking though you'll almost always get better performance from a direct connection than without

[tired flint]

I am waiting for my quest to get back to full battery, I shut down my laptop last night after it died, but that means it wouldn't charge. So I'm just waiting for that right now. It may be good in like an hour or 2. I'll let you know.

[haughty coyote]

[rough badge]

There's an interesting link cable I saw, it connects to USB for data transfers but uses the charger that came with your headset for power

Not sure the legitimately of it However

[tired flint]

Do you remember where you saw it? I'm curious about looking itno it

[rough badge]

Some youtube video, it was the sponsor for a beginning guide to yt

Unfortunately I have my watch history turned off so I can't find it again

[faint timber]

I wonder if vr chat will automatically perform way better on Quest 3 or if the app will have to be updated for that

[tired flint]

Have been testing it out and it has maintained a charge for longer

Still losing battery though unfortunatly

[haughty coyote]

The quest 3 would already have some new performance overhead so it should be better automatically, with future updates improving optimization

[haughty coyote]

That's better news. At least you know the issue is hardware related. How is your performance with airlink?

[tired flint]

Unfortunately, I can't use airlink. My internet isn't good enough. I tried setting it up but it wouldn't work.

[high pulsar]

youtube videos are still not showing on videoplayers for quest

[lilac fiber]

Hi

[jagged arrow]

@umbral wave meanie

[jagged arrow]

Wrong person

[tame wyvern]

I think it’s annoying that you literally have to keep clearing the World Cup every single time like it fills up fast I’m like you can’t play three or four hours without doing that like, can’t they fix that?

[clever marsh]

Hello

[dusty atlas]

That's mostly a quest thing. It might be fixed or improved with the quest 3, but otherwise... nah

[haughty coyote]

Ever just get tricked thinking some tall cute funny woman, teases and jokes with you for a few days then you get blocked outta nowhere?

[high reef]

they prolly weren't even a woman

[haughty coyote]

Idk, I'm just lonely man

[high reef]

if you feel all sad and down all the time, you put yourself down, the world feels like its against you every waking moment, or you feel unfulfilled, then you need to work on yourself, not get a girlfriend.

[haughty coyote]

I'm not sad, I just feel alone.

[high reef]

then try to focus on getting friends, not a romantic partner. Commonly enough, friendships can turn into something more, and friends in general give you people to be with

[haughty coyote]

I somehow can't do that, being just friends with a woman is not possible

[high reef]

then you need to work on that... cause women are just people too, not a solution to you feeling lonely. Even if you wanna say you don't see women as a solution, your previous statements are saying otherwise

[haughty coyote]

You're thinking too deeply and making me look like some objectified, I literally said I can't become just friends with women because it was too hard, that doesn't mean I think they're not people, jesus Christ we're done talking

[high reef]

well then don't go to a chatroom for help! This is text, people cannot gleam a lot of little details as to how someone is feeling about what they say that you get from verbally talking to someone. Like I am sorry then, but I jumped to that conclusion because this is the vrchat discord. The majority of people who would come here and talk about troubles with women prolly objectify them a lot...

[steep crescent]

World Cache? You usually should never have to clear it unless a file is corrupt and causes issues.

[fluid bear]

I have to this day not once touched any cashes

only problem I get is when vrchat blackscreens when loading a world and I have to restart

[faint timber]

You know what I wonder? When I buy quest 3, can I play the same games on my quest 2 and 3 simultaneously?

Like if Im keeping my quest 2 to play with friends can I have the same games active at the same time like if I wanted to play golf or something

Or Hellsweeper 😎

[primal jay]

99.999% sure most multiplayer games will complain if you do that.
Just on a basic level, not for DRM reasons, it makes sense for a user's unique ID to be their account.

Maybe it would work better if you added another account to Quest 2 that you use family sharing on.

[faint timber]

What I'm trying to do is family sharing though.

Is family sharing a thing? I'm not trying to give the headset away to a friend and have them play my games I want them to play when they come over to my place but the headset is still mine

[primal jay]

It is called "app sharing" https://www.meta.com/en-gb/help/quest/articles/accounts/multiple-accounts-and-app-sharing/turn-on-app-sharing-on-oculus-quest-2-or-quest/.

Don't think all apps support it though.

[faint timber]

Thank you 🙂

You know whats annoying is games that don't let you crouch or adjust your height. Also games like job simulator where you HAVE to have space to play despite the fact that you are in VR and you have analogue sticks where you could easily walk around if the game would simply just let you.

Does anyone know of any fun cooking vr games on Quest? Like Dead Hungry on PSVR1 that was very fun.

Another example is the game Thief Simulator VR. For some reason the car's ignition is where the stick shift is and you have to reach way down to start the car which is re***ded. Because you use the car so often in that game that is becomes an issue

[deft wind]

So I sue Virtual Desktop and now for some reason it keeps saying i have it thinks a i have FBT which I dont, how do I fix that?

[primal jay]

Pure guess, turn off OSC

[deft wind]

OSC?

[empty bolt]

Vrchat!!! Yall shld make it where we Can have over 10 mgb avatars bc thats mostly alllll my uploaded avatars!!!!

[fluid bear]

whut

[empty bolt]

every quest user is only allowed 10 mb per avatar but the majority of my avatars are wayyy over 10mb now i cant use em since they updated it 😭

[fluid bear]

ah that's what you mean

[fluid bear]

it's optimizing time then