quest-general

[hearty thistle]

Hey uh trying to airlink my Quest 2 to my PC rn
First question does the PC need to have some sort of wifi card or can it be connected by ethernet to the router?

[rough kayak]

it can be connected via ethernet.

but you need a pretty beefy wifi router and hardly anyone connected to the network for airlink to be decent

[hearty thistle]

I got both of that criteria

the issue is that it keeps endlessly trying to pair me with my pc but it just dont

Im starting to think that maybe since my pc is connected by ethernet it cant find wifi based devices for some reason

[rough kayak]

airlink can be pretty buggy sometimes. I've got my pc connected via Ethernet and it works. make sure your network on your pc is set to private and not public

[sand path]

I had no issues with the Jerry, I just have a lot of stuff on it

[hearty thistle]

yeah ethernet private network not public

cause I cant connect to my HP printer either which makes me think its probably something to do with the configuration

[viral pulsar]

I had a ton of gradients on mine so it was probably just taking up too much texture memory

I had to use like 512x512 textures to upload it

[rough kayak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVLWYAu9aPQ is it connected to the same wifi router or is the wifi router plugged into a modem

and if you're having major issues I'd look into VirtualDesktop its only $20 and its way better than airlink

[hearty thistle]

okay basically
PC is connected by ethernet to the router and the connection says its a network connection
Quest 2 is connected by wifi
and im really close to my router but im starting to worry that maybe it isnt showing up because its close to one of our mesh network devices

but even then it should still show up

wired linking works btw tested it earlier

[rough kayak]

it may be the mesh network.

[hearty thistle]

again right next to eachother but my worry is its connected to the mesh not the router

[rough kayak]

yeah that might be the issue, and the mesh isn't allowing device sharing

[hearty thistle]

thing is if its connected to the mesh its connected to the gateway device which I dont think is possible

[rough kayak]

the way mesh networks work is it connects to the strongest signal

so even if you're ontop of the main device. if the quest sees a mesh booster/device it will connect to that.

[hearty thistle]

yeah I see that gonna try and blacklist it from the gateway but not the router somehow

[rough kayak]

Like i said though, issues like this doesn't come up with VirtualDesktop and I 100% bet you it'll run better than air link

[hearty thistle]

so virutal desktop works with mesh networks?
Cause looking through it I dont think I can force a connection with our network

[rough kayak]

yeah virtual desktop links to your oculus ID and streams to and from a server.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmFR3x7jnKE

[sour sequoia]

im not..

i went into an avatar and it keeps my screen black

stop assuming stuff you uwu femboy wannabe

[remote kestrel]

I can assume what i want dear
And why the "uwu femboy" wannabe comment xd
I'm just a confusing furry xd

[nocturne bronze]

Why does the quest 2 version lag with 15+ players? Even in safe mode with it set to hide all avatars except mine (80 polygon untextured sphere) on 1's optimised box and minimum graphics settings, I only get about 40 fps. Meanwhile when by myself, I usually get a solid 72 fps (the cap) in most worlds. Why does simply having other players (not even their features) cause lag? I have a fairly fast internet too.

[gray kiln]

Cuz the quest two sucks, vrc isn’t optimized enough

[silk olive]

That happened to me last night

[green canopy]

For the problem about crashing when out of memory for quest, is it possible to use Virtual Desktop and launch VRC from there to avoid that problem? I dont have a great laptop, but I cant join public worlds anymore because of the memory crashing

[sour sequoia]

nah bc its literally my avatar thats turning my screen black every time i get on vrchat

and my quest account isnt connected to a vrchat account so i cant reset my avatar

i had to make a new vrchat account

[empty shadow]

Sadly, the barrier preventing PCVR from flying off the shelves is the requirements to run the stuff.

And even more unfortunate, you need a good enough PC to run PCVR without suffering from nausea or dizziness.

Which means spending money, pre-built or DIY, to get one.

[silk olive]

There is an avatar world the automatically makes your quest crash whenever you join it, you have to restart your quest to fix it

[gray kiln]

Ok?

[tranquil pivot]

Anyone else getting a “not enough memory to run VRChat” on their quest?

[remote kestrel]

VRChat issue

And also system

[gray kiln]

As person said above and No fix for it either

[remote kestrel]

Yep

Cause memory is like RAM

[tranquil pivot]

Oh no 😭

[remote kestrel]

You can avoid this by hiding everyones avatars

For the most part

[tranquil pivot]

Ok I’ll try that thanx

[remote kestrel]

Ye

[hexed ocean]

People are just adding me asking for thigh pictures

[gray kiln]

Idk why you telling that In here

[hexed ocean]

Idk

[haughty coyote]

Yup

[nocturne bronze]

Quest 2 ain't exactly a powerhouse, but simply having a few players shouldn't cause lag. Games like Echo VR in the main lobby have high player counts and pretty much never drops a frame. It's obvious it's optimisation issues as you said, but I'm currious exactly WHAT causes the lag as a beginner game developer in Unity.

[gray kiln]

To be completely honest I’m not 100% sure. But I feel it’s mainly just because the games not optimized enough. Ever since the new updates it’s been making vrc for quest worse and worse. They just keep adding new stuff without optimizing it instead of fixing it they just add even more stuff lol

[gray kiln]

^^^

[versed patrol]

Can anyone help? Quest 2 Air-link to desktop. When I hit menu in game it will only open on my right hand forcing me to navigate with my left. It used to open on the specific hand I hit the button on. Any suggestions to fix?

[remote kestrel]

Mhh i wonder why xd

[silk olive]

People are adding me just because i have an invisible avatar

:/

[gray kiln]

Then just don’t add them back it’s that simple

[peak tree]

Hey would anyone like to play vr chat with me?

I can’t really find any people rn

[manic eagle]

How do I fix sound on quest

[gray kiln]

Wdym

[tired jetty]

[trim trench]

Anyone wanna play or chat

[polar tendon]

If you get hurt by women on Vrchat I feel bad for you

I been watching my brother’s literally cry over a girl they met at a black cat maybe 3 times

[nocturne bronze]

If you hear no sound, try checking the in-game sound settings and seeing the volume settings.

Hopefully VrChat Inc optimises the game (mainly multiplayer existence) very soon, because the closer the quest 3 gets to launch, the more of a "quest 3 can get 72 fps in some public worlds" mindset could make optimising seem pointless. Even on more powerful hardware, any framerate increase is more than welcome.

[remote kestrel]

Optimizing is never pointless

You also have to remember that VRChat is filled with user generated content aswell aka worlds and avatars

So both the base game and avi/world makers both have to optimize their shit

[nimble whale]

We are always working hard on optimization, but just like Rawr pointed out above, it's also up to you as users and creators to improve your experience beyond our base optimization by optimizing your worlds and avatars!
That said we know it's not always easy to know how to optimize your content, but doing your best and trying to achieve better performance rankings by eather choosing better performing avatars or optimizing your own is something you can strive for!

[gray kiln]

💀 that’s sad

[haughty coyote]

Relatable

I was dating a guy for 9 days on vrchat and we broke up and I still miss him

[iron ether]

Holy smokes, that's unfortunate that's why I strongly recommend you don't date in vr😭

[haughty coyote]

Does anybody here know how to set up a professional rp discord server for vrchat? I have a few questions beforehand though just so you get the main idea.

[nocturne ruin]

i was trying to play vr chat but icant can you guys help me?
[2:08 PM]
he say !make sure your device connect to internet and restart vr chat

[gray kiln]

That’s just sad

Don’t online date if ur relationships last that long.

[haughty coyote]

nah its a one time thing

[gray kiln]

Figured

[haughty coyote]

My shortest relationship besides that one was 4 months lol

[gray kiln]

Eh

How long did you know these people lol

[remote kestrel]

This isnt the place to ask that?

[remote kestrel]

they deleted the message lul

[stark wolf]

Anyone wanna play 18+

[nocturne bronze]

I love to hear from devs, but the main thing is that the game lags in box worlds with the avatar settings set to hide all avatars except mine (an 80 polygon textureless excellent sphere) and safe mode on, with about 18 players. There's pretty much no UGC that can create lag in that scenario, yet the game only gets about 45 fps. Testing the world in private always gets a perfect 72 fps (the fps cap on Quest 2), so I feel there is an issue with how other players are handled. If you know about the way VRChat handles other players and are fine with sharing, I'd love to know why the framerate lowers when other players are present.

[haughty coyote]

Guys, my friend on quest cant see all of the quest avatars I have? He can only see one of them, is there perhaps a setting that he might need to turn on

[remote kestrel]

Did he even select "show avatar" when selecting you on the QM?

[haughty coyote]

Yeah, he can view the other avatar just fine, but when I use the others he cant see them

[remote kestrel]

Whats the download size of the avatar?

[haughty coyote]

OH wait he's such an idiot

[remote kestrel]

Mh?

[haughty coyote]

He didnt press show avatar, this entire time he said he was until I actually walked him through it

[remote kestrel]

Figures

[haughty coyote]

Thank you anyways! I appreciate it,
Sorry for wasting your time

[remote kestrel]

Your fine lmao

[silk olive]

D:

See you tomorrow

[haughty coyote]

It won't let me join any worlds, it keeps on sending me to a world with a board that says, sorry, something went wrong, try using your menu to load into a different world or close vrchat and restart it and I've tried everything, and now I'm just kind of out of ideas because it just won't let me go anywhere

does anyone have any ideas

[dull maple]

Im having a problem where there's a big delay in vrchat so people don't hear me until 20 seconds after I speak, I haven't messed with any settings and im not sure why its happening

[gray kiln]

Latency is kinda already a thing, if you don’t have good wifi connection it could be that or other things

[dull maple]

It just started tho

[gray kiln]

What kinda headphones do you use if you do use them

[dull maple]

I don't use any

[rancid parcel]

Im haveing a problem launching the game,it wont even load into the world. Any updates of if it’s occurring problem

It just stays on the blue sparkly screen

[haughty coyote]

Yo anybody know if theres ever gonna be a recording option for the vrc camera?

[gray kiln]

Most likely no

You’ll need PC for that

[haughty coyote]

Damn

[remote kestrel]

Yea its not on quest

And there isnt even a record button for PC either lmao

They just use OBS

[brittle pumice]

Anyone got a link to the VRC Traders server?
Honistly cant find it for the life of me?

[cosmic walrus]

In #community-servers-old.

[brittle pumice]

Ik it's in there i just can't find it 🙃

Is there a direct link to the message??

.
Got a Intresting avi commission idea. Orrr i might ask if someone can help me make it myself.
Its basically just a video as a avi that's it. Just like the dancing air pumping stormytrooper around

[cosmic walrus]

#community-servers-old message

[brittle pumice]

Tysm

[lavish dust]

Anyone else having issues logging in on Oculus? For some reason the app logged me out on my PC.

[haughty coyote]

why has meta quest suddenly just stop working i thought it was a password problem but it wasn't whats going on

[rough kayak]

Is the front of your quest really hot? If it is don't charge it and let it cool down for an hour or so.

[haughty coyote]

no its not that i mean why has it just suddenly logged me out of things

[rough kayak]

It sometimes just happens, its happened to me a few times.

[remote kestrel]

Device temp shouldnt be whats causing the issue lmao

If anything it should only really affect performance

[remote kestrel]

Well its either that
Username/email issue
Or connection/api issues?
I would recommend just checking #server-status

[haughty coyote]

it seems like what ever issue meta was going through is fixed due to me being able to log in again

[remote kestrel]

Highly doubt its a oculus thing

[lethal shadow]

why do i get giant earthquakes when i play vrc xD

[vestal wraith]

anyone else having trouble switching to the Quest Pro Eye Tracking release channel?

has been like this ever since 1310

[gray kiln]

?

[haughty coyote]

Any way to change the graphics on quest???

[gray kiln]

No

[haughty coyote]

Shoot

[lethal shadow]

like my game will start violently shaking

[gray kiln]

Does this just happen on vrc or anything else

[lethal shadow]

i legit only play vrc

[gray kiln]

You bought a 300$ headset for vrc only

Ok then

[lethal shadow]

lmaooo chill

[gray kiln]

That’s just stupid all I’m saying

[lethal shadow]

its not like its got an expiry date 💀 i can get other games whenever i wanna.

[gray kiln]

Anyways have you played any other games on it before tho

[lethal shadow]

nope :)

not yet

[gray kiln]

Well I’d recommended getting a new game or just using the browser and seeing if it does that to find out if it’s a vrc problem or ur headset

[lethal shadow]

but it doesnt do it when im in the menus or messing with settings

[gray kiln]

Just get a free game like recroom, echo vr, Pavlov something

And see if it does it when you play a dif game

[lethal shadow]

sure

ty for the advice and the insult <3

[gray kiln]

No problem

[remote kestrel]

Bruh

That is goober asf

[gray kiln]

Fr

[solemn prism]

hey

[gray kiln]

Wassup

[agile slate]

I can't even join my friends anymore I can barely even leave my home world

[narrow tusk]

You are very limited with 64gb I will say that

[narrow tusk]

Try uninstalling vrc, or changing to a different world see if it’s the world

That issue only had happen to me when I left the headset and came back.

I just restarted vrc, but it never persisted after restart.

[narrow tusk]

Memory issue, if the worlds you go to are huge with tris and so are your friends avatars it will crash you

Tris are polygon count

Reason why quest can’t handle too many avatars turned on without crashing is because of the memory spam

[haughty coyote]

Is anyone having the issue of not being able to swap avis

[narrow tusk]

Sussy pfp, servers aren’t having a issue as I know of.

Try just spam clicking, could just be slow.

[haughty coyote]

Oki

[haughty coyote]

Jus bc yk what it is ya nasty 😤🤚

[narrow tusk]

Thank you internet culture

:)

[haughty coyote]

Its most definitely server issues, i have this same bug too

[gray kiln]

1.they never said they had a 64gb 2. They don’t sell the 64gb anymore 3. I HAVE the 64gb and I have a lot of games

[narrow tusk]

Well if we must be rude to try a point across

1. Multi accounts

[gray kiln]

I wasn’t trying to be rude

That’s jsut how I talk btw

[narrow tusk]

2. It was more of stating the obv maybe they had 64gb

3. Perhaps they have many photos

Again limitation varies on if someone is using the headset lonesome and without taking pictures

[gray kiln]

I have many photos to lol the photos don’t take up much space

[narrow tusk]

Varies on if it’s hd

Don’t know why you’d take a 4K photo on quest

[gray kiln]

But all I’m saying is I wasn’t trying to be rude 😂

[gray kiln]

Still I’m jsut saying it’s kinda sad to see someone buy a headset for just vrchat

But Ye

[narrow tusk]

I bought my headset for vrchat

Other games stand-alone are trash

If I wanna play half life or whatever else I’d do so on pc

Not like vrchat on quest Is any better of course.

[gray kiln]

Into the radius is an amazing game on quest, Pavlov, beatsaber, blade and sorcery

I play so many other games 😭

[narrow tusk]

Better on pc

😭

[haughty coyote]

Hey any1 know why my friend keeps showing up as an error avatar that is under 10mb

[tribal snow]

technically one could probably jury rig the Quest .apk to Android

[tribal snow]

actual fix for that for me is restarting VRChat because the person replied to probably had it happen after a random lag spike that occurs for 3 seconds or so

[open holly]

hello when I launch my space calibrator this one does not work how to do?

[gray kiln]

What?

[remote kestrel]

Wrong channel

This is for quest

Not PC

[open holly]

where is pc

[remote kestrel]

Not this channel thats for sure also it doesnt even seem to be VRChat related anyways lul

[tropic spade]

Okay I was curious as to the memory issue I'm running into with VRC I have space on my head set, wondering is this something that is being worked on? Please @me with any response someone has

[rough kayak]

whats the message you're getting. it might mention memory but it can be RAM and not storage.

[tropic spade]

"Cannot load the world your system ran out of memory" essentially

[rough kayak]

yeah that's RAM, the world or the people in it is using too much Video RAM and VRC is making it so you don't crash or freeze. I recommend trying to join that particular world with either emergency mode on or everyone set to the Default robot apart from friends.

[steady finch]

Hey so uh, I just loaded onto vrc and I can’t move at all. My controllers aren’t dead and I restarted my game and headset twice? Never had this happen to me in the years i’ve been playing. Any help?

[rough kayak]

do they move outside of Vrchat?

[steady finch]

Yeah

[gray kiln]

Is it jsut one avatar

[steady finch]

I checked if I was on stationary in game and I wasn’t

[gray kiln]

Or have you tried others

[steady finch]

I tried another

[gray kiln]

Try uninstalling and reinstalling ur game

[tropic spade]

I have done that, thank you for the response! But it doesn't seem to be working however I found that clearing my cache helped, is there anyway to increase the cap on the cache?

[steady finch]

Alright

[rough kayak]

not on quest unfortunately.

[peak tree]

could someone help me

my quest refuses to allow me to use pc vr

[rough kayak]

what are you using Airlink or a usb-c cable?

[peak tree]

usb-c

im connected to the link

i can access desktop

but when i opened pc vri get an error saying the app isnt enabled

[rough kayak]

can i get a screenshot? if it pops up on your desktop

[peak tree]

it doesnt

its an oculus error message

[rough kayak]

is the occulus app opened on your pc?

[peak tree]

yes

oohhh

tysm

This was the error, I kept trying to open the oculus app

[rough kayak]

so on your pc

on the occulus app

[wanton sand]

enable unknown sources

[peak tree]

i got it working

thanks so much

[haughty coyote]

Hello I don't know where to post this but I hope it reaches support. I'm attempting to use the quest 2 with index controllers for finger tracking. I can't seem to get it right. I have watched a moderate amount of videos but I need someone who uses quest 2 with index controllers to guide me. Thank you.

[tropic spade]

Dang it! Alright thank you very much!!

[steady lantern]

What would be a good set of starter trackers for full body tracking with the Quest 2?

[blazing olive]

Is there any way to view/use PC avatars on quest2?

[umbral cypress]

If you use a link cable or airlink but not in the stand alone headset. Quest hardware limitations.

[blazing olive]

Ah so if I connect it to my pc I can lift the limitations?

[umbral cypress]

Yeah then it uses your PC's GPU

[blazing olive]

Ah sounds great. Would you recommend link cable or airlink more? I’ve also heard you could use virtual desktop but I’m not sure if it differs from the other methods.

[gray kiln]

I’d use link cable

Airlink is usually eh

[blazing olive]

Ahh good to know. Thanks y’all everything else I read online was overcomplicated

[remote kestrel]

Airlink is absolutely garbage from what i seen

[gray kiln]

Sometimes it works for my friend and sometimes it doesn’t

[remote kestrel]

Yea thats kinda crappy xd
Virtual desktop is better xd

[gray kiln]

Even then just a link cable works to

My bf uses it and it works amazing so

[remote kestrel]

Direct connection

Not wireless

So its gonna work way better

Just annoying by cable

[gray kiln]

Eh my friends gotta long cable

So it doesn’t get in his way cuz he also got pulley system so it isn’t in his way

[remote kestrel]

Meh

[blazing olive]

i dont have a long enough cable but i did get virtual desktop. when i run vrchat through virtual desktop, i cant control it using my headset am i doing something wrong or does it not work?

[wintry ingot]

does the game still run like a slideshow after the performance boost in v55

[gray kiln]

Not for me lol

[floral lagoon]

Do anyone know how to fixed mic on a laptop on VRchat no can hear me talking ?

[haughty coyote]

I love how I factory reset my headset and it still says I don't don't have enough memory to run vrchat/your system has ran out of memory

Good work developer :/

[gray kiln]

It’s the game you restarting ur headset won’t do anything lol

[narrow tusk]

Plus quest limitations

[stark gull]

yeah, this is true if you're on a quest one

[narrow tusk]

Quest 2 also has its limitations

I thought quest was removed for vrchat

[wide falcon]

hai!

[gray kiln]

You can still used it hooked up to a pc just not standalone

[narrow tusk]

Yeah but remember not everyone has that privilege

[gray kiln]

I know that?

I was just mentioning lol

[haughty coyote]

Hello everyone

So im worried my new pc might break cause my room dosent have a ac unit and i have 2 fans and rn when is day time its around 90degrees in my room

[tranquil jolt]

Whair do I ask a qestion

[gray kiln]

If it’s related to quest you can ask in here

[remote kestrel]

Cool but like why say that here in the quest general Lmao

[tranquil jolt]

i already got a awncer thx

[primal raptor]

Heya I got a problem right now so if anyone knows about this let me know, when I start my oculus link I can hear myself, so I went to sound and properties to see what was the problem, as you can see there's a " call " symbol " does anyone know if that means that I'm actually in a call ?

[narrow tusk]

Are you on discord or something like that?

I’d try restarting the device, because I’m unsure myself also.

That simple only ever appears for me when I’m in actual calls. Like discord, Xbox party, Skype, whatever.

[primal raptor]

I was trying to see if I called a friend but no, I also don't remember going to a voice channel so I don't think so, I also have the headset off rn so idk why it still shows that I'm still on call, I also switched headphones to see if I could hear myself on my pc ig but nothing.
I also restarted the pc and headset when this happened but it remained the same as always.

[narrow tusk]

Unsure if it’s vrchat issue or something wrong with pc

[primal raptor]

Also, the pc is updated and the quest as well so, it may be the pc at this point..

[willow oak]

[pale panther]

go to vrchat settings and delete your cache i have to do that everytime

[night bone]

i need help to fix my avatar. Its all broken in vrchat (the bones dont transfer un unity, and my pov is way off from the avatar)

[fathom nova]

can anyone make me a avi i know its alot n takes alot of time but im js asking

im on quest

[gray kiln]

You’d have to pay them

[fathom nova]

ohhh

never knew that

someone was makin em for free for my friend

im js doin what he did

[gray kiln]

If you want a custom avi that’s not gonna do much

[fathom nova]

alr

dam

lol some guy js tried to scam me

[gray kiln]

Yeah don’t ask for Avis in here

Lots of scammers if you want to actually get an avi made go to vrc traders

It’s a server in the #community-servers-old

You’ll find it if you scroll up more but that’s only if you actually have the money for it

[fathom nova]

bet

server name?

[gray kiln]

Just go to the #community-servers-old channel and find “vrc traders”

[safe sentinel]

airlink with desktop works perfect but steamvr keeps puking out 108 error
does steamvr hates my headset

[dreamy ledge]

have any other quest users (I'm on q2) noticed switching to certain worlds causes the game to "no memory" boot you back home

it's gotten so bad to the point where I joined a friend and the game thought I had no memory, but it didn't boot me out. I was a ghost who couldn't hear the people around me. when I went to my home world I got launched in a random direction

I mean like the no memory boot happens even when a while back the same worlds loaded with zero issues

it's like if there's a sensitivity setting for the boot and it's been increased

[ember olive]

So, is anyone else having micro burst lag spikes, an it not like typical lag, but it a buffering stutter?

[gray kiln]

As I’ve said to a lot of toners it’s because of the new updates and vrc isn’t optimized enough for quest there is not a fix for it

[gray kiln]

That happens all the time lol can also happen when you turn on to many Avis or if someone switches Avis

[dreamy ledge]

ah I see

[remote kestrel]

Being a quest user 101

Also i hate how it can happen in really optimized worlds

ESPECIALLY in a 1KB world xd

[ember olive]

@remote kestrelNo, no, no, see, I did not have lag, an then it came out of no where. So, it shows something was going on, so far, factory resetting the quest 2, an it seems to fix the issue I was having.

[remote kestrel]

yea those random ass lag spike where the game freeze for a sec and annoying looping noise

[ember olive]

Yes, I factory reset the headset throught he phone app. An seems to fixed the issue.

[remote kestrel]

for now

[iron ether]

Does anyone else realize that no matter how many times vrchat updates updates the platform it's going to stay the same, its a hardware issue at this point, and then we continue to use unoptimized avatars 💀

What I'm saying is there is only so much optimization that can be done for the quest, oh I can't wait to get a PC.

[remote kestrel]

The base game is also unoptimized to all hell for both platforms to begin with especially the memory issue as VRChat handles it poorly and not much we can do other than cry and cope about it

Even on PC is bad

.

[narrow tusk]

No it’s not just avatars that are poor. But I’m not getting into that. Many videos already made comments about those, also vrc system issues . Besides the point, you know it’s a issue you crash without ever showing anyone’s avatar or fallback.

[gray kiln]

Go to scroll wheel menu it’s somewhere in there

I think if you go to the settings or configure thing it’ll say afk detection or something

[remote kestrel]

me who changed my safety settings so everyone are gray robots....still crashes

[chrome crypt]

does anybody have a good Spider-Punk for quest

[gray kiln]

This is for #avatar-search-old not for this channel

[oak lantern]

MAn this sucks

[white granite]

how much more "playable" is VRChat now for Quest 2 after the v55 update?

Update v55 should make the Quest 2 CPU 26% faster than it currently is, but how far does this VRChat (really) influence?

[gray kiln]

I mean idk I was on it yesterday and it seemed fine ig still had lag spikes tho

[rotund cairn]

hey

why is everyone on VRCHAT automatically with the Robot avater's and MUTED

automatically without me doing aNYTHING

its annoying af.

[primal jay]

Because there are very few optimized Quest avatars and most people seemingly do not care about how badly performing their avatar is.

There is a setting to show "poor" ranked avatars (this change won't do much), but "very poor" has to be manually enabled for every person in an instance you want to see.

[rotund cairn]

Where is the setting?

[primal jay]

Not sure why muted though

[rotund cairn]

Safety?

[primal jay]

Open handheld menu (not the circular one, just single press VRChat menu button) and use other hand's laser to click on someone.

The menu will now change and in it there will be a three way toggle, an eye, a closed eye and a shield, click the eye.

This setting, as far as I remember, resets between worlds, because you will cause yourself poor performance and more crashing.

[rotund cairn]

yes ik,but can i do it all at once

so i dont have to suffer through the pain of doing it to everyone?

[primal jay]

@rotund cairn the muted thing could be because you accidentally activated full shield, is a short command for it.

[primal jay]

Nope and Quest would crash immediately if you could.

[rotund cairn]

dam

ok

thx

[jagged trench]

the amount of crashing isn't going to change in the slightest because the update can't change how much RAM vrchat has access to

[narrow tusk]

Ram is main issues, but in my opinion when vrc releases the newest update it’ll be better.

The avatars saving for 5 mins is what causes us to crash so much too. Aka ram usage, memory overflow, etc

V55 does help either way

Just not in the department of ram

You’ll 100% crash less when vrc newest beta update comes to main game.

Still will crash from other problems.

In my advise just don’t show anyone’s avatar if you never want to crash, but if you wanna see avatars avoid showing anything above 100k poly

[remote kestrel]

But the game shouldn't handle it poorly and like shit

[gray kiln]

Not that place to talk about this

If you report someone ok if you wanna make a report go to #moderation-reports

Don’t talk about it in here.

[floral lagoon]

Thank you

[white granite]

Is 6GB really that less to play?
And how much does it VRChatg affect, if the quest 3 now have 12GB?

[narrow tusk]

12 just is pretty much what a older gen pc has

So it’s better

Rather crashing every 30 mins you crash every hour!

[white granite]

Ram is not a big deal today, I mean, even my cheap Z690 Mainboard is capable of up to 128GB RAM while other mainboards would be capable of even more.
I use 32GB DDR5 Ram and I am not even sure if 64GB RAM would be overkill for a highend VRChat experience (on PC)

and does it not also affect the speed of the RAM?

if the RAM is faster? if it have more GHz or a higher DDR<number> does this not also affect the needed RAM storage?

does DDR5 need less memory than DDR3 RAM?

because it is faster and so faster finnished with storing its data?

@narrow tusk

[narrow tusk]

See the issue for quest it’s limited memory. The issues to that is ram, I’m no expert on ddr or whatever nonsense that isn’t a rtx lmao. But I do know the lack luster of ram causes memory issues. Alone it’s not how little ram is but vrc needing a ton to do certain things.

Lucky for us vrchat newest beta fixes couple issues. Of course that one avatar with 1,5million polygons will still crash you.

CPU, ram are mainly what causes many issues. I don’t suggest only ram upgrades. But we’d have to see what happens in v55 and vrc beta

[white granite]

how can 1.5mio crash you, if you see a robot if someone have morethan 20k?

[narrow tusk]

You can’t tell what someone has equipped, so when you show bam

Goodbye to your quest for a bit lmao

You suggest never showing avatars is rather silly. People like seeing there e boy avatars with 400k polygons

And if you only seen 20k polygon avatars or lower you’ve never manually shown avatars then

(I am having grammar issues)

[white granite]

x64 avatars are incompatible, so they have to optimiize and reupload before you can even see the arm64 avatar. In my case, my latest selfmade quest avatar does even fit in the fallback category.

But other peoples should make their avatar atleast rank "poor" to be visible, otherwise they should know that they are in 99% of the case only just a grey robot for everyone (if they are even capable of uploading it?)...

[narrow tusk]

I’m rather confused on what you are on about, but the fallback system is in place to be shown fallbacks. So if it’s a pc only avi it’ll bring the fallback, same with quest only. Back to topic, not everyone has there settings to show fallbacks either, as I have it set to never show avatars.

[white granite]

even if it looks like this after the optimising, atleast they are visible now for quest peoples.

[narrow tusk]

They can see your avatar even if you don’t do all that

They just got to show the avatar

Which no one will do so they don’t crash cuz e girl avi

No one wants to deal with 2000000000 polygons

[white granite]

but you should expect that noone will take the effort if you are not already visible by default.

[narrow tusk]

But people do

Like a lot of new players

Reason why on quest store the game reviews are at 3.2

Or something around that line

[rough rose]

Yo I need friends to go on the game with

[narrow tusk]

I think it’s 3.7

[primal jay]

No, not at all.
RAM speed in VRChat's case will only really help with speeding up the CPU (HEAVILY depends on CPU whether it even does, to what degree and when it stops getting better from quicker RAM) and make it so when you inevitably run out of VRAM the performance hit isn't as large.

But that of course relies on having enough RAM available in the first place.

[narrow tusk]

Only issues people complained about was crashing lmao

[rough rose]

I crash quite a lot on the quest version

[primal jay]

Quest users are far too used to enabling poorly performing avatars, but who can blame them, the vast majority of creators do not put the required effort into the Quest version.

[narrow tusk]

I’d suggest never showing avatars to just avoid it entirely

[white granite]

because the limitations are way to extreme to deal with and if you are already "very poor" just because you have 1 material or a few polygons to much, you can from now on also sh!t on the performance rank and use 200k polygons than 20500

[narrow tusk]

There is no limit with polygons

For quest no limits at all

[white granite]

I'm on PC, but if you do that, and only allow "poor" and bellow. The lobbys will be very fast, very empty...

[rough rose]

@Yasin I usually end up turning off most people's avatars but having them on is part of the fun

[narrow tusk]

Yeah I know it is

But crashing every 10 mins is terrible

[white granite]

are you quest 2?

[narrow tusk]

I only show avatars to people I interact with

[narrow tusk]

Yeah but I never crash like that

By the time I crash once my headset is about to die

[rough rose]

I crash in the VR chess world the most

[narrow tusk]

So I never really had those issues

[primal jay]

That is a bad way to think about it, sure, you got over the arbitrary line, but why would you then start sprinting away from the line.
Do your best optimizing.

[narrow tusk]

Only when people use anime avatars or high poly count

[rough rose]

Sometimes I'll be in a world and some dude will have an avatar the size of the entire world

[white granite]

what is the reason why peoples play on Quest and not PC?
Is it really only because of the not-existing gaming PC and the wish to play VR?

[rough rose]

I don't have a gaming PC and I like the first person experience

[narrow tusk]

I have a gaming pc

[primal jay]

Gaming PC is expensive.

I have not heard of any Quest user that continued using Quest standalone after getting one.

[narrow tusk]

I hate dealing with even worse optimization

I have no reason to switch

The e boy avatar on quest is 200k

But on pc it’s about to be 1million

With 100mb of avatar download

And it’s texture at 300mb

I’m not dealing with that crab lmao

I’d rather stand-alone, because atleast then I know I won’t see a ghost, hear audios, and other pc only stuff I dislike

[white granite]

but will peoples not be anoyed if they have to download 100MB or more?

[narrow tusk]

You can’t tell what a avi has or hasn’t till you show

In my opinion wish I could see the stats of a avatar before I show it

Cuz if I see a anime pfp no offense to anyone who uses one for there avatar but I’m not showing it

Anime, e boy e girl, anything that seems like it’d be unoptimized

[primal jay]

There is a technical reason behind that, but in short, until very recently, it was not possible to do that.
Whether they will now use that data they are gathering is a good question, but my guess is that they are just waiting for enough avatars to be scanned (and probably working on the feature).

Was only a few months ago they started doing server-side scanning

[narrow tusk]

It’d cost too much memory

But oh well really

That’s why I just look at pfps

If anime no go

If it’s suss no go

[white granite]

I found out that even on PC, it does make sence to optimize the avatar, even if you are already over very poor. the peoples will not deal with your giant download size because most peoples have a internet wire made out of potato fries.

[last oriole]

what skybox shaders work on quest?
i tried skybox/procedural and it does not work

[mild onyx]

hey guyas

[last oriole]

why cant quest even have constraints or box colliders bruh

[floral carbon]

why doesnt vrc add transpreancy to quest

[kind wedge]

too performance heavy

[kind wedge]

too performance heavy

[last oriole]

i dont even want to ask how

[narrow tusk]

Honestly I think the main issues to even allow constrains or custom shaders would be because people would make and do terrible stuff.

Even if they aren’t performance Heavy. Also audio sources with avatars aren’t a huge issues at all and I know because when people modded them in you crashed less often anyway.

The main issue is having common amounts of avatars that do or says things that should never be said with audio sources, shaders that let you crash, hide your nameplate, flight, etc

Normal things you can pretty much already do on pc

[haughty coyote]

Bruhhh why are my avatars always appearing as error bots? Its like most of em, hardly any work at all

[remote kestrel]

Internet or upload issue

[haughty coyote]

Damn cuz its like most of em but even then some of em are previously existing avatars

[remote kestrel]

Public avatars?

If so then yea connection issue

[haughty coyote]

Yeah they public

[last oriole]

So no audio sources on quest because people might use offensive audio? That's not a very good reason if that's the case.
I also don't see why flight is bad or how people can do terrible things with constraints. Mostly I see people do amazing stuff with constraints. They're so unbelievably helpful

[last oriole]

Yeah, so I'm confused why things that aren't even performance heavy as you've said would be not allowed on quest since there's no rule about "suggestive" content on quest if it was really about being offensive

Just no nudity like regular vrchat rules

[narrow tusk]

You could place down suggstive things, you could do anything with world constraints. Have a teleporter that could ruin the fun, have shaders that jump scare a player or flash bangs the screen with constraints. With all of that you could also add in ear destory emo music.

[last oriole]

Yeah but that stuff already happens on PC why would it be not allowed on quest (besides performance)

[narrow tusk]

People will do all of these despite the rules, reason why pc has so many issues.

[last oriole]

I thought these restrictions were for performance not censorship

[narrow tusk]

id rather not have little timmy doing that crap to ruin everyone elses time

they are for performance

im giving my own reasoning why they would be terrible to have

[last oriole]

Little Timmy already sees big booba avatar which is also bad

[narrow tusk]

gogoloco flight already ruin many udon worlds

[last oriole]

Oh

[narrow tusk]

it works on quest

i forgot to mention that because some people dont know that

[last oriole]

Oh good to know I'm gonna add that to my quest avatar since my PC flight collider uses a box collider which is not allowed

On quest

[narrow tusk]

💀

[last oriole]

Cope

[narrow tusk]

that is why i shouldnt have mentioned that

[last oriole]

If users want to fly and have fun god dang let them

[narrow tusk]

no

i dont want them on murder4 flying around

[last oriole]

Constraints are helpful, colliders are helpful, audio sources are cool and fun. Banning stuff just because it can be used maliciously means every feature in vrchat should be banned

[narrow tusk]

i have no issues with flying systems, just people who abuse the systems are reason why i nitpick at them

constranints on wrong hands can create terrible things

i have no problems with any of the systems

myself would love to be able to use world constraints and audios too

id be a quest only meme avatar maker lmao

but issues are when people start abusing these systems to annoy others

[remote kestrel]

What?

[last oriole]

Well at least vrchat says it's is for performance and not too police content

[remote kestrel]

That first one can also be said on PC but on PC you can have audio

Unlike quest cause performance

[last oriole]

I thought this person was claiming that was the reason vrchat didn't allow it. Then they elaborated that was just their personal opinion

So discussions kind of done now

[remote kestrel]

Breh

[remote kestrel]

Isn't constraints awful for performance in every way lmao

Pretty sure there was a discussion about that but cant remember

[last oriole]

See that's the answer that makes sense but I don't wanna know how a constraint is performance heavy 💀

[narrow tusk]

yes

[narrow tusk]

i think its obv why its perfermeance heavy anyway

[remote kestrel]

I forget the reason of why it is-

x wx

[narrow tusk]

depends which you use

for world constraints it's because it needs to save data of the object from any distance

[last oriole]

I most often use rotation constraint for bones

[narrow tusk]

i dont know cloth stuff so i wont get into that

I am unsure myself on why rotation constraints wouldn't be allowed a limited supply of. I do know most constraints are performance-hungry, and now your quest is on fire.

Having too many bones are also a issue on performance so adding a ton of the two will destroy the quest lmao

I wouldn't see much of a issue on limiting the amount you could use. Example having only 1 or 2 rotation constraints per avatar. Also adding in a setting to disable constraints from avatars. So even if it's terrible on performance you can always disable others constraints.

[remote kestrel]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[narrow tusk]

🥶

mainly will cause memory issues pretty sure

fps drops

[remote kestrel]

That's already an issue on the base game itself xwx

[narrow tusk]

💀

when they mention this do they mean quest or quest 2/pro/3

only constraint for quest id see that wouldn't tank memory to the ground is rotation or scale

[haughty coyote]

So I see 0 on all the world's ans I restarted my headset a bunch lol

[gray kiln]

I wouldn’t ask here

Go to #community-servers-old and find vrc traders

[true pawn]

Okay thanks bro

[acoustic coyote]

Bro, I keep getting logged out after everytime I go to a world

On top of that, I keep getting session expires and keep getting logged out after I log back in sometimes

I love vrc but dang, one heck of a welcome back after a year of me disappearing

[remote kestrel]

Welcome to VRChat lmao

[haughty coyote]

As soon as I log into vrchat I crashed immediately! And go back to my oculus menu

What the heck is going on

[remote kestrel]

Relatable

But there's nothing you can do about that other than try to open the game again

[haughty coyote]

I've been doing that for like 2 hours now

This is frustrating

Why am I not able to get into vrchat???

[gray kiln]

Cuz vrchat on quest sucks

Nothing you can really do to fix it

[haughty coyote]

So what? I just wait it out???

I can't even finish an update on quest one original for VRChat

It's gone 😭

I can't go anywhere when I log in. Every single world has 0

[gray kiln]

Because quest one isn’t supported for vrc anymore you need it hooked up to a pc

[gray kiln]

Pretty much

[untold shuttle]

Hello quest 2 users would any of you guys want to be my friend

[summer arrow]

Does anyone know how to fix air link? Like every time I try to do it, basically I press it and then it says pair so I press pair and then it says search but search is greyed out

[gray kiln]

Imma say this now airlink can be really bad at times

[remote kestrel]

Use virtual desktop

Airlink is like talking to a brick wall

[remote kestrel]

This is due to oculus stopping support for quest 1 which make development for quest 1 not possible/maintainable

[narrow tusk]

(Vrchat is dropping quest one on the 30th)

[summer arrow]

it used to work really good at my old house i have no idea why its not even letting me do it

[unkempt sonnet]

Ong

[haughty coyote]

I think its only dropping quest 1 headsets

[cosmic walrus]

This is correct.

[remote kestrel]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[gray kiln]

Well you can play it if the quest 1 is hooked up to a pc, but I’m assuming that person doesn’t x3

[thin quail]

Anyone wanna do trades with avatars(not custom only troll avatars) DM me if your down

[gray kiln]

If they’re public don’t trade them they’re public for a reason

[thin quail]

Yeah but I still wanna trade for some good ones cause I can't find em

[jagged trench]

honestly the concept of Avatar trading baffles me

[gray kiln]

Exactly

[gray kiln]

They’re public you don’t trade them. The reason their public is so anyone can use them…

[thin quail]

It's kinda fun ngl

[gray kiln]

Personally I find it stupid

If I wanna avatar that’s public and I ask for it and they say no

It’s just stupid it’s PUBLIC

[floral lagoon]

I accidentally deleted my account I have 14 days I want to stop it how can I do that ?

[gray kiln]

How do you accidently delete ur account

Contact #user-support-old

[floral lagoon]

I push on it

[gray kiln]

You literally need to verify it

[remote kestrel]

People are special types of dumb at times

[gray kiln]

I can tell

You can’t accidentally delete ur account

[robust snow]

I tried to go on the game has been just crashing

[narrow tusk]

That is exactly what I wrote, yes.

[orchid elk]

So how tf do I make vrchat work on my quest, it can barely run any world nowadays

[jagged trench]

is it a quest 1 or quest 2

[oak geyser]

why has my game been crashing on launch 100% now, any way to fix it?

[gloomy lance]

Am I able to live stream vrc on vr set without being hooked on a pc? I hate being hooked due to buggy wifi takes a lot of time to set it up

[gray kiln]

Not really

Only thing you could really do is cast to ur phone from the oculus app then stream ur screen thru twitch but even then won’t have ur voice in it

[gloomy lance]

Ah rip

[haughty coyote]

Hello

Imagine having a mental break down and someone comes up to you asking you like are you okay? Do you want a hug and I just usually just say no I just need time to be alone.

[latent portal]

ok

[gray kiln]

This is vrc server not a venting server? You can take ur problem somewhere else

[haughty coyote]

Lmaoooooo

[gray kiln]

Dangit

[haughty coyote]

Ofc bro they fire

[gray kiln]

Yes yes yes

Wrong message I replied to but whatever

[haughty coyote]

All g

Damn ur profile is all suicide boys I fw it

[gray kiln]

😂 Ye

[haughty coyote]

I never hear nobody talking abt suicide boys they underrated for sure

Its cool that u got all that going on

[haughty coyote]

Imagine lol 😂

No wonder why your dad left you

[gray kiln]

First of all I’m 15 my dads I’m the other room? I’m just trying to say this isn’t what this channel is used for?

[gray kiln]

I wasn’t meaning it in a rude way idk why ur being rude

I’m just stating not what this channels for

[haughty coyote]

That’s nice

[gray kiln]

It’s for discussion about quest vrc not a venting channel?

[haughty coyote]

Cool story

[gray kiln]

It ain’t a story

[haughty coyote]

That’s nice

[gray kiln]

Use the channels to their proper use. If you need someone to talk to contact ur friend not this server

[pastel apex]

imagine saying this because youre wrong 😭

you're 25, act like it

[haughty coyote]

Oh my God I didn’t know you can read

Good for you

[pastel apex]

good for you for argueing with a 15 yr old LOL get on with your day now

[haughty coyote]

Lol 😂

Skill issue

[golden drum]

Anyone else cant access any worlds?

I’m having that game version mismatch error currently

[pastel apex]

yeah i was having that problem earlier, try restarting the game?

[golden drum]

I did

Even uninstalled and reinstalled

[pastel apex]

you have to update maybe

[empty oak]

Check announcements! #announcements

[golden drum]

That’s the thing, I’m not promoted with a uh, update

[empty oak]

They posted smth abt it

[golden drum]

I checked it already, I’m just having issues with trying to update the game 😭

[haughty coyote]

Says the one who has a disgusting profile picture like I wasn’t trying to be rude like I’m trying to say like where do I tell my experience on a VR chat

[haughty coyote]

Have u looked in the mirror?💀 you look like an orangutan with downsyndrome

But you can go to a different channel to tell ur problems to

I’m just saying you just need to respect yourself that’s all no need to get mad

My pfp ain't even me

[pastel apex]

how are they disrespecting themselves lol

i feel like this is a black cat

[remote kestrel]

Whats happening lmao

[haughty coyote]

💀 swear

[pastel apex]

we dont know

[haughty coyote]

Yeah idk im just talking shit

[solemn prism]

well maybe this fit in vrc theme

[remote kestrel]

Welp-

[pastel apex]

loll

[haughty coyote]

That’s sad

It's my gf so idk how that's sad but ight

[pastel apex]

@ / sleepy i just would not feed into it lol theyre reaction fishing

[haughty coyote]

I'm bored asf rn I'm doing this for fun dw lol

[pastel apex]

😭 honestly fair

good luck soldier 🫡

[haughty coyote]

farewell

[haughty coyote]

Yes, I look at myself every day in the mirror and say wow I’m beautiful there’s no need to get mad lol 😂

[haughty coyote]

I aint mad I just don't like when 1s act like 10s

[haughty coyote]

10 pls 😂

[pastel apex]

this basically is black cat

[empty oak]

I’ve never been to the Black Cat before lmao

I can’t handle confrontation so I avoid it best I can 💀

[pastel apex]

best place to hear drama

[empty oak]

Now you’re tempting me

[pastel apex]

usually its some mirrordweller's e-kitten looking at another e-boy mirrordweller

or some weird drama

sometimes you can find some good people

[haughty coyote]

I don’t even go black cat-

[pastel apex]

never said you did 🙂

[haughty coyote]

You’re making it sound like I did though

[pastel apex]

never even mentioned your name 🙂

i just compared the situation to something similar ive seen in black cat 🙂

[haughty coyote]

Hm ah I see we’ll I apologize for being rude, okay

Instead of saying, go deal with your own problems somewhere else you should’ve just said “please” go deal with your problems somewhere else it’s that simple

[gray kiln]

Ur the one who got mad at me trying to help you ;-;. I was telling you not to vent in here because it’s not the place to vent

[haughty coyote]

The attitude on this mf 💀

[gray kiln]

And I wasn’t wording it rude I was just saying that’s not what the servers for and you immediately say that’s why my father left which has no connection between the two

[pastel apex]

the situation was done 10 minutes ago 🙂 can we all please move on?

[haughty coyote]

Honestly, I don’t even know why I said that I apologize I have no right to say that to someone-

[haughty coyote]

Could you be quiet please? I’m trying to apologize person and you’re just like stop.

Well ur not doing a good job at it

But ight I'll let u apologize

Good thank you Jesus 🙄

Okay I’m sorry for being rude for no reason I apologize

[gray kiln]

Thanks

[viral pulsar]

That was quite a read

[gray kiln]

Yeah x3

[viral pulsar]

Also hello @pastel apex I recognize you from bird sanctuary

[haughty coyote]

Welcome, also cause I got it. I thought this was a VR chat server? where do I tell my experience on VR chat?

[remote kestrel]

VRChat*

[pastel apex]

Hellooo!

[viral pulsar]

I just kinda lurk here and read chats

It's entertaining to me

[pastel apex]

same

[viral pulsar]

I shouldn't even be in this chat since I graduated from quest but I like helping people out if they need it

[haughty coyote]

Because I was like arguing with two pedo on there, saying it was wrong to date a minor, and they were getting so heated up for no reason and they were complaining saying that I was wrong on my side

[viral pulsar]

Ah the classic vrchat experience lmao

Well you know what they say

Winning an argument against a genius is hard but winning an argument against an idiot is impossible

[haughty coyote]

I wasn’t even argue with them. I was talking to them like an adult but they were just shouting and getting heated I was like: 🧍🏽‍♂️

[gray kiln]

Eh if you need to report someone go to #moderation-reports but ya

[haughty coyote]

Thank you I remember that like I’m sorry for caring so much about the children on VR chat, but I remember next time to just screenshot their names

Wait, I just remembered you cant screenshot I just write their names down

[gray kiln]

Wdym? You can take photos on quest

[haughty coyote]

You can take a pic with a camera in game and on the quest

Pretty sure u just have to sync some stuff with the app

Yeah, but do you want to see their user name? I’m not for sure I’ve never tried the camera yet.

I would say the funny part was, they were getting so mad that they were going to break their keyboards

[gray kiln]

If you screenshot thru the headset you can

[haughty coyote]

Okay thank you

[lament fiber]

I cant play Vrchat it keeps saying error code 403

[haughty coyote]

I still can't play vrchat. Even after the update and I continue to crash in my own invite + world instance AND when I got to a public instance of the default vrchat hub. First I'll load in for what seems like 2 seconds and move around and then I'll immediately crash or my screen goes dark and I end up back in my meta quest 2 menu.

[thorn quest]

Has anyone got a solution or knows what happened with my stuff?

[thick path]

love your pf layout
typh is such a good artist/animator

[remote kestrel]

Indeed :3

[stuck oasis]

Why does vrc keep telling me that i need to connect to the internet to play? My internet is fine?

[gray kiln]

At either internet games working

[stuck oasis]

What?

[gray kiln]

Sorry autocorrect

Try another game that needs wifi and see if it works

[stuck oasis]

Alright

[stuck oasis]

Still not working

But i do have good wifi

[gray kiln]

Well it’s most likely ur wifi

I used to have this problem and some things to try areee

Disconnecting and reconnecting wifi, restart ur router, if those don’t work what helped me was making a seperate 5ghz wifi (sometimes regular wifis switch between 4 and 5ghz which can disconnect you. 5ghz is recommended for gaming tho)

[stuck oasis]

Tried all of that. Nothing

[untold robin]

Vrc wont let me join ppl lol I keep having to restart vrc to get it to show me a few games

My wifi it working fine

[remote kestrel]

Server issue maybe

[untold shuttle]

did they fix the memory thing for quest 2

[stuck oasis]

If your talking about the thing where it randomly kicks you out of worlds and says that your system ran out of memory they haven't fixed that yet

[untold shuttle]

yep

[stuck oasis]

Honestly they probably wont fix it for a long time, if at all, just like the crashing and lag spikes

[untold shuttle]

wow they just mostly care about the pc players then the vr players

[gray kiln]

I hope you know pc has also been experiencing problems

And the memory problem isn’t for everyone

I’m on quest and I RARELY get it

Some of my friends have never had the memory issue

[untold shuttle]

Some reason i have when my memory is not full

[gray kiln]

You can’t check ur memory on ur headset. Just so yknow headset storage and memory are different

Memory is more like RAM

[untold shuttle]

i kmow how to check memory cause it not full

the ram is not full

[gray kiln]

How?

Tell me

And that’s not entirely how ram works

I have a feeling ur looking at ur storage

[untold shuttle]

there no way to upgrade ram in a vr headset

[gray kiln]

Exactly so what I’m asking is what are you “checking” cuz you aren’t checking your memory

And the memory issue is because vrc just isn’t optimized enough for quest but once again some people haven’t been getting the problem 🤷‍♀️

[untold shuttle]

i saw many people get it, i was checking my memory

[narrow tusk]

Well two ways actually, it’s upgrading, and also upgrading

But pretty sure that’s not the answer you want

[gray kiln]

You still didn’t answer me how are you checking ur memory

Cuz it isn’t ur storage. And it isn’t ur cache in game

[untold shuttle]

It the memory storage

[gray kiln]

That’s not how that works ;-;

That’s just the storage of ur headset not memory

[untold shuttle]

Then why on vrchat it says memory full, there no memory thing for vrchat

[gray kiln]

Smh that’s not what I mean. The memory thing has no FIX. You can’t just check it that’s not how it works. Ur looking at either ur storage or cache. There is no fix for it nothing will work. The memory thing is because the quest can’t handle the game since it’s not optimized enough

[untold shuttle]

The only thing i been looking at was the vr headset memory, thats it

[gray kiln]

Where do you go yo see this “headset memory”

[glossy linden]

So yesterday I was using nextnex for handling Quest URL but today they've all stopped working again. Is it normal for video players to stop working on quest? I assume this is all YouTubes side?

^ want to make sure it's there side and not my code*

Did some investigation, I think it's YouTube's end, unless anyone in quest has a working video player right now? I tried with youtube-dl and even that's not working

[remote kestrel]

Ya dont i believe

[gray kiln]

You can’t 😂

Like they’re prob looking at their storage

[remote kestrel]

~w~

[remote kestrel]

Memory = RAM

[gray kiln]

I told them already

[remote kestrel]

Ah okie

[gray kiln]

I don’t think they understand ;-;

[remote kestrel]

Yea-

[remote kestrel]

Some time video player buffers and stop playing then resumes randomly on quest ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[glossy linden]

That's an odd one, specific songs or in general? Also hows the internet?

[trim dove]

Hi, there's a tool provided by Meta which allows you to check several stats like FPS, CPU/GPU or RAM usage in real time:

https://developer.oculus.com/downloads/package/ovr-metrics-tool/

You need to turn on "Enable Persistent Overlay" and the corresponding settings for RAM usage in Graphs and/or Stats. The *.apk needs to be sideloaded, which requires Developer Mode.

[remote kestrel]

Just in general

[gray kiln]

I doubt that person has it they seem confused

[remote kestrel]

Oh right

Totally forgot that can display it

Lmao

[glossy linden]

Oof, i'll see if I can replicate

[remote kestrel]

Alr xd

[trim dove]

The newest VRChat build (2023.2.3p2, released yesterday) made a change regarding RAM usage:

Avatars now get cleared out of memory after 60 seconds of no one wearing them instead of 5 minutes

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/vrchat-202323p2

Did that help anyone with the "Not enough Memory" problem or does it crash just as often?

[gray kiln]

Idk I’ve never been affected by it really

[trim dove]

I am unfortunately, it also freezes very frequently for a couple of seconds. Fall can't come soon enough, it's really about time to upgrade to Quest 3.

[patent hound]

Has anyone been experiencing the low memory issue when attempting to load into certain worlds?

[gray kiln]

Lots of people have been experiencing it there’s no fix for it at the moment

[patent hound]

Jfc

Annoying af

[gray kiln]

?

[haughty coyote]

Yeah I still can't get in even after deleting the data from my meta quest head set and Uninstalling it, did a reset, then reinstalled vrchat and I'm getting the same result

[gray kiln]

As I said there is no fix lol

[remote kestrel]

Never will be if Dev's dont optimize the base game

[gray kiln]

I mean I’m just confused cuz I haven’t been affected by it

Like it happened to me once or twice and now it’s just stopped for me and my friends so idk

[remote kestrel]

Luck ig? Idfk

I cant even get on VRChat cause oculus fucked me over until i can get back home lmao

[gray kiln]

Weird

[remote kestrel]

Not really

Prob ptc shit honestly

Or a check up to see if im the actual person on the headset idrk

Cant exactly login cause my stuff for 2FA is back at home xd

[haughty coyote]

All I've seen is when they just did a patch update but nothing fixed our issue

I guess won't be on vrchat anytime soon

[gray kiln]

It wasn’t a patch update for that problem

[haughty coyote]

Oh ok

[untold shuttle]

My first experience of vr chat was shy and scared because I did not know what to do on vr chat and I did not know if I was gonna make friends

[gray kiln]

Just go to public worlds

Good ones for talking to people are no time to talk

And the Omegle vrc world

[untold shuttle]

Sorry for the argument yesterday i jist hope they fix it

[urban vigil]

is anyone else not able to join certain worlds. like it says 100 players but when you click on it, it says 0 players

unless its just me

[karmic prairie]

Is anyone else not able to get past the vrchat spinning logo screen

[compact mantle]

Your on quest and can join a world with 100 people?

[urban vigil]

no like the whole game says 100 total. not the world

[compact mantle]

Ah

[urban vigil]

i click on the game and it says absolutely nobody is there

[compact mantle]

Maybe all 100 of them people are all in private worlds

There's a counter in the world details that tells you how many people are in public and how many are in private worlds

[urban vigil]

nahh bc i disconnected from black cat and i tried to go back and it said nobody was there

and its other random games too

[compact mantle]

Probably just a glitch then

[urban vigil]

yeahh

i clear my cache and uninstalled like 10 times and nothing happened

[light anchor]

yeaaah, idk what it is but same is happening with me

[urban vigil]

try uninstalling and reinstalling or resetting your quest

[frozen stag]

Good thing I’m not the only one

[gray kiln]

What?

You can’t really turn it off

[untold shuttle]

uhh it does. That to me to

[light turtle]

i have a question how do you get this シ on vrc on quest?

[gray kiln]

If you want in ur name or bio on vrc you copy it and go to the vrc website and paste it

[lapis ice]

Why do I always have memory issues ?? I have a lot of storage left

[jagged trench]

that's referring to Ram not file storage

[lapis ice]

Ah

[mild sinew]

6 ram blud

[crisp gust]

Hey is this true? I need to fact check this

[primal jay]

Because of Meta dropping SDK support for the Quest 1, VRChat can't realistically keep supporting it.

I don't think it was a case where it will just stop working immediately, but if an update breaks support then it is broken.

[primal jay]

From the official VRChat twitter https://twitter.com/VRChat/status/1673345371354050560

VRChat (@VRChat)

Reminder: Quest 1 support will be deprecated on June 30th!

Likes

169

Twitter · Jun 26, 2023, 3:00 PM

[rose frost]

Yo guys I need some help

[gray kiln]

It’s better to ask what you actually need instead of just saying you need help

No offence just for next time

[rose frost]

Look at the video

[gray kiln]

I did lots of others have had the problem not a fix for it I think

[remote kestrel]

VRChat moment

[raw walrus]

all i know is depending on a quest and how old it is (mine is 3 years old) sometimes the whole thing just doesn't work
unfortunately i dont know a fix other than to cope and pray it launches later

[small thunder]

hello!!!

[royal thunder]

hey u guys, on quest 2 are you actually able to open the app n stuff

like get in game

[royal thunder]

yeah thats my problem, did u find a solution? Im kinda going insane aha

[royal thunder]

Mann💀 Yeah i saw the reviews for vrchat n many got it but sucks to see no solution

Hope it gets fixed soon

[haughty coyote]

Vrchat and the oculous seem to have a glitch about space on the headset

[mild flame]

funny

[gray kiln]

The memory thing isn’t storage

[remote kestrel]

Memory is like RAM

[haughty coyote]

Well it has a lot of bugs

[arctic spear]

What's clearing local avatar data

[gray kiln]

Clears out ur avatars

[haughty coyote]

Now I'm glad to be the only one this has been happening to

[haughty coyote]

No

[last nymph]

Hello I'm new here

[gray kiln]

Hi

[last nymph]

Idk how change my avater in vrchat I'm bot hru

[gray kiln]

To change avatars you can find avatar worlds and search for certain Avis

There’s regular like egirl and eboy Avis, furrys, video game characters, all sorts of stuff

[wintry ingot]

whenever I go to join a world it automatically puts me on stuff with no people and for some even if there's people playing it only shows one instance with 0 people is there a fix to this

[rose frost]

You too

[sharp iron]

yo anyone know a vrchat avatar website where i can buy avi

[haughty coyote]

Is anyone else still having problems getting on vrchat? I still keep crashing over and over

[gray kiln]

Gumroad and booth

[uneven vine]

It’s sex time

Oh

[remote kestrel]

Wat

[ebon sundial]

Anyone wanna play

[fading mirage]

I can at like 11:23

[frozen stag]

Can anyone get past the loading screen?

[fading mirage]

I could yesterday but idk

[frozen stag]

Ever since I updated it I haven’t been able to get past the loading screen and the blue bubbles n stuff

[haughty coyote]

I'm able to

[haughty coyote]

Woah what

[haughty coyote]

I got past the loading screen and when I load into my qorld instance, vrchat shuts down

[haughty coyote]

able to go to other lobbies but after am hour or so it does kick me out

[restive furnace]

@quaint copper first off hi and second how are you

[gray kiln]

Don’t ping him you’ll get banned

Don’t ping any of the vrchat team members

[restive furnace]

oh...

shit'

[remote kestrel]

Lmao

[remote kestrel]

Whenever I get back home from vacation ima see if i can xd

[final jasper]

am i the only one that logs in but wont load in

[haughty coyote]

Nope

Qustie struggles

[final jasper]

yea i think everyone has connection issues because everyone in this chat i think is a quest user

[tidal oasis]

Anyone here plays on Asia need some be friends

[frozen stag]

Nope

I mean I factory reset it and it did work

But when I went to join a friend my screen was just black, and when I close and open it again, it just did the same thing as before

[final jasper]

I enter the application and log in but it won’t load me in

So I don’t know what to do

[final jasper]

And I also factory reset my headset

[restive furnace]

need he;p

idk wtf happened but my left controller light comes on but it wont vibrate like its on wht do i do?

and it doesnt work

[haughty coyote]

Is it dead?

[restive furnace]

no it vibrates when you put a battery in regaurdless if its dead or not

mine stopped

when i get new batteries ill try again but idk

[haughty coyote]

It might work but who knows maybe you just need to smack it a few times

[restive furnace]

lol right

[final crypt]

hiiiiii hellooooo heyyyyyyy

[primal jay]

Nextnex, the service most people were using, isn't working anymore.
Whether it will come back or not isn't certain, it does have a disclaimer that it could at any point stop working.

Only public alternative I know of https://shay.loan/

[languid rover]

You are amazing! Thank you so much!

[fresh cargo]

Anyone know if the players in my worlds are working? I haven’t checked

I use questing.thetechnolus links for my video players

[primal jay]

Nextnex being down isn't because resolvers have stopped working, it is just that nextnex's server isn't working atm.

As can be tested through your browser, questing.thetechnolus still works.

[fresh cargo]

Neat

[hearty raven]

Heyyyy some one wanna join me add me as MgTearsyy222 on vrchat and let’s play!

[halcyon gulch]

Where would one go to ask questions about the standard lite revisit

[primal jay]

In the developer update it was mentioned https://ask.vrchat.com/t/developer-update-29-june-2023/18711/30.

Sure you could potentially get an answer elsewhere, but here they do generally try to answer most comments.

[halcyon gulch]

Thank you I was under the impression you had to act fast and it's been a few days

[primal jay]

They generally come back every now and then, but of course it is best to ask during the first day.

[rare radish]

does anyone know how to merge a Oculus account in a VR chat account

[primal jay]

https://help.vrchat.com/hc/en-us/articles/360062659053-I-want-to-turn-my-Steam-Oculus-or-Viveport-account-into-a-VRChat-account

[gleaming sequoia]

The Jinnai system (https://nextnex.com) will be temporarily suspended.
I apologize for the sudden decision to terminate the service. We kindly request your understanding and cooperation.
Thank you for using my services thus far.
https://twitter.com/ckptkb/status/1675661693731635200?s=20

[rose frost]

Can someone fix this my game is fuck messing up

[restive furnace]

who the fuck makes it compatible with devices bc im pissed of rn im tryna run it on laptop it wiorks then shuts the app hell most times it wont even let me in\

[restive furnace]

same shit js on pc

[rose frost]

Yeah I know and someone fix that

[tribal snow]

just wanting an update if the damn deaf+mute bug has been fixed

[rose frost]

No not working for me and my friends

[craggy drum]

So are they ever going to fix the getting sent home due to memory problem?

[high reef]

That’s not something easy for them to just fix, and even if it was, it would only be their side of the problem. Basically there is a reason we have performance ranks on avatars, almost all quest avatars being poor or very poor does have drawbacks such as eating up all the RAM (memory) of the quest

[craggy drum]

This never used to be an issue whatsoever though

And avatars have nothing to do with me joining an empty world i just made

[high reef]

Your own avatar still counts but you have a point and idk. Unless your world instantly takes all the RAM then I have no clue

[tame scaffold]

i'm having some issues with my quest that i'm using for pc vr. only today for some reason, my headset has been completely freezing every 15 minutes or so. if i just sit there it'll go to the quest loading screen with the three dots but wont load anywhere, even after several minutes. if i disconnect the link cable and reconnect it, vrchat will unfreeze, but my screen will be completely black, so i can hear the game and other players around me but i can't see anything. i can't open the menu when that happens either. the only thing that works is closing vrchat on my computer and waiting for the oculus menu to pop back up in my headset. is there any way to fix or prevent this? my graphics settings are pretty modest and my computer is definitely powerful enough.

[remote kestrel]

Ig
But it kinda just looks like their pasting some/most PC code and to quest, literally the UI on quest has some PC only stuff yet we can still see it meaning there's somethings not getting removed off the quest build of the game and they are just using unoptimized/unstable code for quest and probably on PC aswell as they also suffer issues we face

[haughty coyote]

I miss my friends in vrchat 😦

Non of them have bothered to ask where I've been....

[gray kiln]

It’s online ur fine dude

You’ll live without the game x3

[haughty coyote]

I could die tomorrow and no one would know

Oh well I guess

I'm just being dramatic

[gray kiln]

Mhm kinda

[haughty coyote]

My theory behind why vrchat hs not been operational for us quest users is simply because....

They're using this clever opportunity to force us to go outside and step away from Virtual reality and realize that there's more to life that the VR world. While we go outside, they'll be cranking out on their computers and writting code for new worlds and features which, they'll promote to us later down the road once their new features and worlds are complete. Well then be enticed to come back to VRchat ready to explore the new scene.

[remote kestrel]

Nah i think they just dont know how to optimize code

[gray kiln]

No?

If they did that they’d lose a lot of their players

They just need to optimize the game more

And even then I haven’t had any problems on vrchat

Me and my quest friends have been fine

[haughty coyote]

How u able to get on normally while the rest of us suffer

[gray kiln]

Idk

Me and my quest friends have been fine

Not everyone’s had the problem

[primal jay]

Biggest issue they have is that they went too lenient on limits, with the benefit of hindsight they probably wouldn't have allowed very poor avatars on Quest, or at least had more limitations, can't exactly change that now without angering a large portion of the playerbase.

The second most performance costing thing I think is networking, which just is expensive at scale.

[gray kiln]

Not the “rest” are suffering I was hanging out with like 20 quest players the other day x3

[haughty coyote]

Does make sense

Don't

[primal jay]

Sort of baseless guessing, but imagine that Meta's dumb way of doing updates probably isn't helping make Quest user's experience similar.

[gray kiln]

Welp idk what to tell yeah lol, me and my friends have been fine

I have one friend who’s had the problem that’s it

[primal jay]

Could just be world and the avatar people and you use.
Nothing is blocked on the avatar you use.

[gray kiln]

Well I think what’s going on with him is the whole thing where it won’t even like open vrc, he’ll open it and it’ll put him in the loading area then kick him out of the game

He can’t even get into the game x3

[haughty coyote]

Not even long enough to change my home world and my avatar won't load either

[gray kiln]

Oof

[high reef]

the avatar not even loading properly is a red flag for me that there is a decent chance the avatar is to blame

obviously could be whatever else still