avatar-quest

[mild plover]

ohhh spicy lmao I didnt see it my fault, but I need help optimizing my PC avatar down to work for the Quest standalone (android) I can send the unity error codes

[magic slate]

Yep, that'd help

[mild plover]

appreciate it!

one sec

[magic slate]

not saying I can help, just that nobody can without some more info 🙂

[mild plover]

Either way you still stepped in

appreciate it highly

well first issues is some of the shaders, when I switch from the VRM shaders to the Toon lit for mobile the brows go missing. I figured it was because the VRM was outdated. My VCC says its up to date but on the git I see newer versions.

[weak basin]

There's no mat count limit. Just have to manage to get under 10mb compressed and 40mb uncompressed.

[weak basin]

Use toon standard. For the eyebrows, use particle multiply. You can also grab that hair matcap and add it back to the hair material once you switch to toon standard.

You might have to do the same thing with the eyelashes or anything else with transparent bits.

[native sonnet]

When I make it quest shaders it breaks it

[magic slate]

that's kinda vague

[native sonnet]

Wdym

[magic slate]

breaks in what way

[native sonnet]

When I change it to /vrchat/mobile/partical/ and that it breaks it turning it into white cubes when it’s meant to be blue fire

[magic slate]

are you maybe referring to the transparency?

[native sonnet]

PC Shaders what is supposed to look like

When I turn it into quest shaders

[magic slate]

Looks like that's using alpha transparency, which you can't do on quest

[native sonnet]

It’s the additive

Not alpha

[magic slate]

yes, the quest one is

[native sonnet]

Says additive

[magic slate]

Yes, I can read that, I meant the PC one of course.

[native sonnet]

Again additive

[magic slate]

oh, well what I said was it looks like.

[native sonnet]

I guess I can’t do it then.

[dull linden]

Use this unless your avatar don't use poiyomi I don't know what to say just make sure what your Avatar use for sader

[kindred fractal]

You might wanna try multiply but it won’t glow like additive would

[kindred fractal]

They can’t use that on quest though

[weak basin]

Maybe try playing with these settings?

for the bright colors, additive is the right play here. I don't know what would be adding the white. Also, its weird that your VRChat > Mobile > Particle > Additive even has those options. This is what the shader should look like

Is your vrchat additive shader somehow modified in some way? it should work basically identically to the unity Mobile > Particles > Additive shader.

I also wonder what this means in the PC material

so I looked around, I think it just means that its connected to a particle emitter, and the particle emitter can change values of the shader such as the particle color and such.

I still don't know why your VRChat > Mobile > Particles > Additive looks like that though. why does it have all those extra options? I've just updated to the most recent sdk and my version does not have these options still even when I create a new material.

[native sonnet]

I’m confused myself a old avatar I made with that same partcial works fine and did it how I normally do and now for some reason breaks when I use vrc shaders when it never use to and I also updated my sdk to the newest version and still dose the same thing

[mild plover]

You on rn? Would love your help

[magic slate]

you'd have to explain what "breaks" means. Are you trying to do a quest version or something?

[native sonnet]

You seen the pictures I sent that’s what I mean by “breaks”

[magic slate]

oh the particle thing from last night, got it.

[native sonnet]

I tried all of them dosent work

[weak basin]

like I said, the vrchat additive shader you showed in the screenshot is not the same shader everyone else has. All those other options should not be there. Something is wrong with your project, something is modifying the shader or has edited it.

[weak basin]

is the particle something you bought from somewhere or is it free? could you drop the link maybe I can check it out myself and see whats going on with it.

[weak basin]

im on now. what do you need help with?

[magic slate]

#1138520828556890214

[spice crag]

Kazin?

[magic slate]

I was replying to a post about finding an avatar - the right place to ask that is there.

[spice crag]

ok ty

[simple scroll]

?tag scam

[tough atlas]

Hey ho 👋 I see you're looking for commissions.

You will probably receive DM's or friend requests from scammers now (or later) that will try to offer you their services. 😖

🚫 Absolutely DO NOT engage with those, regardless of how competent they might seem or their excuse to why they contact you.
This is unsafe practice used by scammers, and also breaks this Discord's rules. 👮

If you seek a creator, check out VRCTraders and follow their protocols strictly 🥺
(You will get DM from bot to verify your account upon join.)

🌠 It's extremely important to always DEEPLY investigate the account and social media of the person you plan to commission.
Is their social media linked in Discord? Is it legitimate? Are the references stolen? (Try to reverse image search posts to check.) 👀
The quality of fake profiles out there can be crazy good, be aware of that and NEVER engage with DM or friend requests that originate from the artist.

When in the slightest doubt, do not commission them and contact the moderators of the involved communities. 😱

[simple scroll]

(also)

[stoic iris]

Ooofh optimization...

His arms are so much better

[mild plover]

Just now seeing this sorry, but I need help fixing the shaders and taking my pc avatars off of VROID down to the Android level

Super late sorry

[weak basin]

So for the materials, change them to VRChat > Mobile > Toon Standard. Unless it needs transparency/cutout. Then use the shaders in the particle folder (additive or multiply only, alpha blend is just there to temp you).

To make the material look like the PC one, you need to investigate the PC material and look for the following: matcaps, emission, normal maps, detail/extra layers, hue shift and it's mask, rim light, and specular or smooth/metallic values. Anything else like glitter, special effects, animated layers etc won't work on quest so don't worry about those. You are going to use the quest compatible things from the list and recreate the material in toon standard.

Put normal maps in the normal map slot, add the matcap under matcap and add a mask if there was one. Match the rim light color and mess with the intensity values and such until it looks like the PC mat. Add the detail layer. If there was more than one, you need to use a texture editor to layer and combine them all into one texture. If there was hue shift, check that box and add the hue shift mask if one was there. Put the emission texture under emission and set it to the same color as the PC mat. If there was an emission texture and mask, you need to combine them in a texture editor by layering the mask on top of the texture, and then setting the mask layer properties to render as multiply. Copy the smooth and metallic values and put them under specular, don't forget to drag in the masks if there was any. Set reflectance to 0 if there is any mask because if you give it a value it won't follow a mask and will affect the entire mesh.

One problem you will find with vroid Avis is that they use transparency way too much. Instead of shaping the mesh to be the proper shape, they just use cutout rendering, or transparency, to make the shape. This is dumb and makes quest converting harder. You have to either use a particle shader (which will always be translucent, or see through) and not have any other material properties (matcaps, emission, etc), or you have to use toon standard and have black spots where the mesh was supposed to be invisible. The secret third option is to import into blender, and cut the mesh properly in edit mode with the knife tool and delete the transparent parts. Then reimport into unity, drag all the materials back on, redo all the physics, and reapply anything that wasn't attached to the fbx (gimmicks, accessories, etc).

[mild plover]

Okay thanks a ton! I’ll try it tonight if I get the chance and if not then definitely tomorrow. I highly appreciate it!

[mild plover]

Love 👏🏽🫱🏽‍🫲🏼

[vale salmon]

for some reason when i use a shader thats mobile on this model it does this, can anyone help?

[gilded seal]

Did you use toon standard?

[vale salmon]

Yep don’t work

It’s anything that isn’t pc only dosnt work for some reason

[robust whale]

are you sure you're using toon standard? make sure the box that says "apply vertex color" is disabled

[carmine siren]

so idk if this is the right channel but I uploaded 2 avatars 2 days ago
both of them dont have an impostor yet
I know last time I uploaded an avatar the impostor generated hours later
Ive been reading you can manually set the impostor on the homepage
well this isnt working
and its been more than a few hours now
I dont want to be around people looking like something I dont want to and dont feel comfortable in
is the page down perhaps or is there another way?

plus the 2nd one I uploaded has an impostor normally since Ive seen it on a public upload
idk what this issue is all my other avatars have impostors

[carmine siren]

its not working as in the page is not loading
i have good wifi and all the other things are loading perfectly

[weak basin]

I think something about it is down, none of my avatar pages will load either, same for my friend

[carmine siren]

well then ill wait for a bit and try again
I want to run around as a fallen angel and not as a weird guy with mask as one of my friends told me yesterday. thats how I found out about this issue

[weak basin]

you could always quest convert. the imposters look bad anyways

[carmine siren]

well how do I do that XD youre talking to someone who tried to ass mmd onto an avatar and failed miserably at the start already
I only know how to upload avatars
sadly nox didnt come with a quest version

its nox by EIGHT
maybe its too hard for vrc to generate an impostor hahah
idk
i have no knowledge

[weak basin]

not alot of clothing toggles, it could be done I think. The skin texture is very detailed, that could cause problems later but it would look way better than an imposter for sure.

[carmine siren]

ill see if I can do that
or ask a friend to help me with that
but id be okay with an impostor
I just dont want to look random
I already hate it when avatar toggles dont convert to quest as they should leaving me with white hair when its actually black

[weak basin]

well imposters have no toggles, no hand gestures, no facial expressions, a cut exposing the crotch often, and generally look very bad and pixelated. I hope you can get a quest version soon.

[mild plover]

about to try this right now

[dull linden]

oh

[true plover]

How can i put a logo on the center of a shirt on unity Android i did it for pc but its a bit different for quest without decals etc

[arctic slate]

edit the shirt's texture to have the logo in an image editor

[magic slate]

it doesn't seem to have an albedo so one would have to be created

[silent siren]

This is correct. A MaterialPropertyBlock is used to override specific material properties without having to create a whole new material

[green brook]

First time interacting on the VRC discord, but is there any possibility this could be an avi? I have the female version, but I am a man sooo (Stomach book, male cover. No idea how I make avis or even adapt this into one)

[hallow lagoon]

it could definitely be made into an avatar. even if you don't have much blender knowledge or unity knowledge you could probably come up with a stylized version of this, but take ur time with learning blender, it's very annoying.

[unique ferry]

is removing some bones from the armature for the quest version gonna mess anything up with syncing to the pc version of an avatar? or should i be fine?

[weak basin]

don't remove humanoid rig bones, and remove any bones in blender. Shouldn't mess with the sync unless the bone is used for a toggle (ex: interactables like pick ups and shirt pulls).

[unique ferry]

alright, thank you!! I just removed some skirt bones in blender but wanted to double check lol

[weak basin]

If the quest version has the skirt, don't forget to re-weight paint the skirt to make up for the bones you deleted

[unique ferry]

yep, i did!! ty :)

[umbral relic]

is this the Right channel to make avatars quest compatible??? or is it somewhere else because I got my vrc model back and it's not quest compatible which I specifically asked the person that was modifying a base model I bought to make it quest compatible then paid someone to upload it and it showed me it's PC only

[weak basin]

You have to do it yourself, but yeah we help with quest conversion here. You start working and when your stuck you post your problem and someone can help you. If you want someone to do it for you then you can to to VRCTraders and commission someone there to quest convert for you.

[weak basin]

Forgor to use reply feature ^

[umbral relic]

ohhhhhh ok because I'd need that tbh thank you for the help but I just spoke to someone else on another server they said ya don't ask you guys because it does have NSFW stuff so I'll get someone to do it for me because I'm not good with technology

[umbral relic]

it's ok

[umbral relic]

is it a discord server????

[weak basin]

Yeah it's in the community section. Idk how they handle nsfw though

[umbral relic]

yaaaaa good point but I don't see it tho

[weak basin]

#1204506421631393913 message

[umbral relic]

I'm on it

[umbral relic]

now where I do I go for help which chat?

[weak basin]

uhhh idk im not in that server

[umbral relic]

oh ok

[umbral relic]

don't need it anymore I found someone thanks for All the help

[magic slate]

that seems irrelevant to the topic

[sour tulip]

why cant we use every shader in the Vrchat/Mobile area?

[weak basin]

Design flaw. The alpha blend is for worlds but it's in the avatar SDK for some reason.

[vestal path]

Guys how do I change avatar to quest??? It’s not highlighted

[vestal path]

Thanks mack

But now my avi is too large to be on quest even tho I’ve lower down all the texture

[flint forge]

Assuming it isn't because your avatar has too many blendshapes (you can remove the unneeded ones without any problems with VRCFury's blendshape optimizer, seriously, just add it, no reason not to.) then you should go into every texture and set an android override, like this.
ASTC 6x6, the default, is good, but if you need to reduce size then just set it to 8x8, only minorly changes the quality of the texture.

[vestal path]

I did do that, and it’s still too big

Like I had an error that said “11GB out of 10”

Now it’s 47GB out of 40

[flint forge]

It said MB

[vestal path]

MG my bad

[flint forge]

At least I really hope you aren't trying to upload a multi GB avatar

[vestal path]

No no lolol 😭

English ain’t my first language sorry lol

But I wanted to lower the polygons on the avatar by taking to blender but I don’t have an FBX file of that avatar for some reason?

I think it’s because I’ve made the avatar by using multiple items and avatar from booth

[flint forge]

First number is download size, the final size of the asset bundle, the file that gets uploaded, which works like a zip file.
The second number is uncompressed size, the true size of everything on the avatar after it is unpacked.

If you use mesh compression or crunch compression then that's the cause, neither truly decreases the size of the avatar, just the download size, which currently isn't a problem.
Otherwise you will just have to go reduce things a bit further.

[vestal path]

I’ve made sure all the override on android textures and made the block 10x10 or small accessories 12x12

Does that mean I have to lower the polygons on the avatar on blender?

And nah I haven’t used any mesh compression or crunch compression, cuz it kinda broke my avi last time

And gave up on it lol

But I REALLY love the avatar I’ve made 💔💔idk I’m out of options

[flint forge]

Had you tried the blendshape optimizer from VRCFury?

[vestal path]

No?? That’s a thing?

If so how do I use it and will it help?

[flint forge]

Yeah, any blendshapes that aren't used or animated will disappear, and blendshapes set to a value will be baked into the mesh, I extremely doubt it will ever cause you an issue.
It is very simple, you just add the component below the avatar descriptor, just click add component, search for it and click it and you are done, it will do its thing when you try uploading.

[vestal path]

thank u so much for the tip !!

I will let u know if it works

it worked!!!!

Omg I’m so happy

@flint forge thank you so much man, I GAVE up making Avis a while ago cuz I kept having the same issue over and over and I wanted to go back on doing that and I felt so sad that I can’t upload it!! But it was so simple!! It means a lot to me man! Thank you!!

[static hazel]

Hello, can anyone tell me how can I get a custom avatar? I'm new to VR chat, for some months now and I have no clue how I can pay someone to make a custom avatar?

If there's any websites

Or discord

[tiny crane]

you can purchase avatars that are already made on the vrchat market or you can take a look at jinxxy alot of creators sell on there. or if your wanting a commission maybe go on jinxy find somthing simular to what you want ask the creator if they do commissions in there discord.

[magic slate]

VRC Traders discord, link is in #1204490664637890580

[weak basin]

dont engage with anyone who dms you offering commissions. They are likely scammers because they lurk here and message people like you who are openly looking for an avatar to scam.

[sturdy nimbus]

Is it possible to make a quest version of this?

Like I’ve already fined her pc side but have no idea how to start her quest side

[arctic slate]

its possible unless theres something on the model that isnt allowed quest side (lights, audio sources etc) you can find the restrictions for Mobile/quest here: https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-performance-ranking-system/#mobile-limits

[sturdy nimbus]

Ahhh okayyy. Do I need to redo it in another project orrrrr

[arctic slate]

you dont need to but some users prefer to have a quest only and PC only project, i personally only seperate my projects per-avatar rather then per-platform so it takes up less space on my drives

its kinda just up to personal prefrence

[flint forge]

Unity projects do have a ton of bloat though when only used for Avatars, if one cares about storage space then all you really need to do to have a monolithic project for all your avatars is organize what you import.

[frail oasis]

I assume there is absolutely no way to do transparency on Quest still?

trying to port the avatar to mobile currently

How it would look on PC

i even had to remove all physbones

since it said to many affected transforms and all physbones would get removed on upload

[pastel bough]

the only solution atm that i do is set the material to a particle for quest, either multiply or additive depending. its not perfect but the color black on additive and white on multiplicative makes the colors invisible essentially making it transparent if that makes sense

[frail oasis]

i tried that, but while it is transparent in unity it isnt transparent in vrchat then anymore

[pastel bough]

really? thats so odd if so

[frail oasis]

yeah i booted up vrchat mobile to look how it appears ingame

and all transparency was gone

[pastel bough]

weird

[weak basin]

Create a new material, don't Ctrl + d and edit an old one. It's a current glitch right now with quest transparency.

[weak basin]

You could add the glasses using the additive particle shader, and try a matcap for the galaxy

[weak basin]

You can usually click the + on the material slots and add another one, then use additive on one slot and multiply on the other to get the alpha blend effect. I would use this for the sleeves. If there is more than one material on the mesh already, the + button will add a slot that uses the bottom material's mesh coverage. If the bottom material isn't the translucent part, duplicate the mesh and layer the transparency that way.

Id also use just additive on the details on the skirt

[frail oasis]

I can't do that

Skirt details is part of the same materials like the other transparent ones

[frail oasis]

Does the matcap shader support tiling textures?

[weak basin]

Use toon standard, you can tile yes

[weak basin]

The skirt and the transparent parts are the same material slot? You can select all the skirt transparent slots in blender and assign them a new material. Then the skirt would have 2 slots and you could do the transparency.

[frail oasis]

I unfortunately have no clue about blender

I initially planned to keep it as a pc only avatar but wanted at least something presentable for Quest so they don't only see a fallback if any pc user uses my Public avatar

Same with my avali

[weak basin]

Where does the model come from?

[slate haven]

Henlo, what shaders are compatible for quest models?.

[frail oasis]

However on my avali the thing with the galaxy texture is impossible since quest shaders don't support masking

[weak basin]

Vrchat > Mobile

[frail oasis]

Booth

[slate haven]

i know but i mean are there other ones?

are those the only one

[weak basin]

No. Only vrchat shaders work for quest. Use toon standard it's the best one

[weak basin]

Is it supposed to be public?

[frail oasis]

It's a free avatar

[slate haven]

okay thank u. i have been having issues with eyelashes/eyeliners, not sure what to do

[weak basin]

Vrchat > mobile > particles > multiply

[weak basin]

Link? Maybe I'll fix it for quest (I'll make the transparent parts separate materials so it works properly)

[frail oasis]

https://booth.pm/en/items/3226395

[weak basin]

I'll look at it when I get home, it doesn't look like it needs a lot of work

[slate haven]

when i tried using particles in the past it said it is apparently not compatible with vrchat, doi ignore it?

[weak basin]

Don't use alpha blend. That's the one shader you can't use

[slate haven]

oh okay

ur helpful!

haha

[weak basin]

transparent already has it's own material

what the actual hell is this avatar

[weak basin]

quest physics

[weak basin]

you would need to add the glasses and replace all the galaxy textures with your own, but this is a working quest version

I did make some small changes in blender such as seperating the hair, creating a material slot for the hair shadow, and seperating the transparencies

[frail oasis]

Oh cool, thanks. Looks good

I sent a friend request

[weak basin]

for galaxy, just replace all the galaxy textures here with your own you used on the PC version

I made the hair it's own mesh so that you could do an animated scroll effect if you wanted to (animate the offset of the detail or emission layer to get the scrolling stars)

[frail oasis]

Yeah it's cause the skirt from what i saw

[weak basin]

yeah no skirt physics for quest, oof

[frail oasis]

That's fine. It's a mobile system

[weak basin]

now if you ever get into blender and really care about this avatar, you could merge some bones and weight paints to have less bones per strand on the skirt, and then make the twin tails have one strand of bones each, and then you could probably get full physics on quest

but thats above my not-getting-paid pay grade

[tight willow]

Does anyone know how to fix this problem

My file is a vrm from vroid and whenever I put on toon lit or other shaders for quest it does this

It’s supposed to look like this

Th suit does it too at the top

Does anyone have a solution

[magic slate]

specifically what "this" are we supposed to be looking at here?

[tight willow]

How the eyes and and suit is different than it should be

[magic slate]

possibly transparency

which you can't do on quest, so you'd have to do some remodeling

[weak basin]

Vroid is so annoying with the amount of cutout they do. Edit the eyebrow texture and lashes and such to have the skin tone as the background color, as transparency won't work well with the blonde.

For the suit, you need to pop the avatar in blender and use the knife tool to cut off the transparent parts of the mesh. This is because you don't want to use a transparency shader on clothes, because it makes it translucent or see through.

Some of the eye hilights can probably be vrchat > mobile > particles > additive

[magic slate]

yeah, it's not really designed for the quest use-case

[eternal shuttle]

i sent that in the wrong channel originally

mb

[weak basin]

Check the collision check count. If it's above 64 collision checks then all physbone colliders are removed on upload. (You can check in the avatar validations)

[eternal shuttle]

Yep, fixed that

Someone said that before in another server but thanks still ^^

[nocturne crane]

Can anybody tell me where I can create a avatar without an computer?, I can’t find out how. It would really help me!

[kindred fractal]

You’d need one so you can use unity and blender (if your intent is to upload it to VRChat)

Some people use their shadow pcs or cloud pcs I think?

[magic slate]

You can't, you must use Unity for this, and it requires a computer of some sort.

[nocturne crane]

Thanks for letting me know!

[flint forge]

Just for completeness sake, there is also MakeAvatar https://hello.vrchat.com/avatar-systems
But I don't think it is worth it, got a pretty limited selection. It is also a Japanese platform and the website is kind of confusing.

So if you want a personal avatar then you need some computer to do so.

[stoic iris]

Do you guys know if VRChat/Unity would yell my rig if I was to move the arm THAT low?

I'm starting to see why no one has ported The Jester to this game yet

[weak basin]

Find someone else with a computer to do it for you. That's basically the only way.

It doesn't have to be a gaming computer either, laptops and low end computers can usually open unity at least

[nocturne crane]

Thanks, I kept on trying to do it on mobile.I can see why it wasn’t working.

[weak basin]

The app someone linked looks interesting. It looks like you could make something there.

[arctic slate]

if its a P2U model get them to ask in the creator's discord, i wouldnt ask for uploads in here as its unsafe and just not the right discord

[smoky wagon]

so everytime i upload to quest, it doesnt say it uploaded for quest in unity nor the website. when i check in the website to see if it went to both pc & quest. it says windows security checks failed. is anyone else having or had that problem & found a way to fix it? i would rlly appreciate it if i got some help on it.

[arctic slate]

security check fail usually happens when something is too far outside the set limits, what do the stats look like in the SDK upload panel?

[worn spire]

it would

[native sonnet]

I need help I’m trying to make a avatar quest but the size in it it’s too much I’ve tried to mess around with it on blender and lowerd it “and textures” the best I could but it’s still too high in mb size

[arctic slate]

try using thry's avatar performance tool to see what's taking up the most space on the model

scram scammer

[native sonnet]

its the mesh but how to i lower the mesh without making it look bad?

[arctic slate]

removing unused blendshapes might take a hefty chunk out of the mesh size

[smoky wagon]

so sorry for jst seeing this, but where would i go to see that?.

[magic slate]

in the SDk window above where the "build and publish" button is

[smoky wagon]

oh i should look for that when i upload another quest avi

[jolly compass]

and this is why i want to make the Quest SDK to have bigger limit AT LEAST 15 MB because Look LOOK
i keep being stuck on the same fuckin' stupid error
now look , i use to get like 10.1 MB or 10.3 or something BUT perfect 10 MB out of 10 MB it didn't happened before but it still Annoying cause that's what i was talking about but Nah everyone fucking attacking my ass for asking for making the limit from 10 MB to 15 MB, cause if it was 15 MB i'll be able to comfortably upload my avatars without getting this error, plus i can atleast have like 13 MB sized avatar if i wanted to atleast let only 1 texture being 2k or 1K pixles size so i can have HD logo on my shirt or something, and others could be minimized or something

[arctic slate]

its not actually 10mb exactly its likely a decimal point above 10mb like 10.001

it just doesnt show past the 2 numbers

[jolly compass]

well i solved it by making the texture even shorter, for example this MLG Glasses has a flat bold colors so the texture size its just 5x5 or 9x9

[arctic slate]

ive yet to get to 10mb myself with quest stuff (unless is a P2U model) but in the future if you use something like thry's avatar performance tool it can tell you what's taking the most space on the model so you can optimize it better for that platform

[jolly compass]

i have it that's how i resize my textures

[tight willow]

so i took a break and i went back to it

i put a layer behind ir and it ended up looking like this

is there any way to get that out without having a random flap off my face

or is there a way to make this flat like how its supposed to be on the face?

and does anyone know how to fix the eyes too

[weak basin]

So you might need to cut some of the face peices I'm blender just like the suit. For the eyes, the additive and multiply should work.

[tight willow]

how do i make the shader spacificaly for the eyes?

because mine is the head is a shader and the body is a shader but no other things are seprate able to be different shaders

[weak basin]

Ooohhh yeah you are going to have to add more material slots in blender. Overall, vroid Avis require blender work to work on quest properly.

[wide sage]

Yo my png a artist is being weird can someone help

[magic slate]

help with what?

[fervent oyster]

Are you new to here or vrchat?

[wide sage]

No

[fervent oyster]

Oh ok are you on vrchat now or not now

[wide sage]

No

[fervent oyster]

Check your dm let chat

[magic slate]

joined today, trying to into DM - careful of scammers.

[fervent oyster]

Am not new to vrc or this server

[magic slate]

you literally joined this server today

[fervent oyster]

My discord account got hacked by a scam

[magic slate]

okay

[fervent oyster]

Recently

That is why

I understand what you trying to say but am really bored

[magic slate]

and acting like a scammer

[fervent oyster]

Scammers?

Like I hate that word

[magic slate]

trying to pull someone into a DM when the asked a simple question is a common sign

but hey, if you're not, great.

[tight willow]

is there a tutorial on how to do this somwhere so i can learn what to do and what im looking for

[weak basin]

I don't see any tutorials showing this use case, but I can try to guide you though it.

So this is blender

Click on the mesh and switch to edit mode.

Object mode -> Edit mode

Once in there, make sure the render mode is set to this one, so the texture shows the transparent parts on the mesh.

In edit mode, use the knife tool and click on the mesh to place a vertex (or dot). Click along the lines of the mesh to create a line sperating the transparent parts from the mesh you want to show.

I'm not at my computer rn but this is the best image I could find showing the knife tool

So the red dots are the clicks you made with the knife, those make new lines in the mesh.

Once the transparent parts of the mesh are separate, you can delete the faces that are transparent and keep all the parts you want shown

You can change the selection mode from vertex to face near the edit mode button at the top left

[weak basin]

So found a better image.

[neon plover]

Is Hue Shift possible on Quest?

[weak basin]

yes, use Toon Standard (in VRChat > Moble)

[neon plover]

Why is the max HueShift value is 6.28?

[weak basin]

no idea. The numbers are different but the range of hue shift is the same as poi and lilToon

so hueshift 1 on poi = 6.28 on toon standard

[neon plover]

Yeah.
The number seems so random.

[weak basin]

and for liltoon its a little different, because it goes backwards and forwards

so you want your lilToon animation to be like 0 .5 -.5 0

and then for Toon Standard you want it 0 3.14 3.14 6.28

[neon plover]

How do I HueShift only a Specific Material while using VRCFury?

For Example, the body and the hair are one joined object. But I just want to Hue the Hair material.

[weak basin]

syncing Poi and Toon Standard is easier, just 0 1 for poi and then 0 6.28 for toon standard

[weak basin]

make sure the hue shift is not checked on the body. If they are the same material slot, create a mask with white where the hair is and black for everything else and put it in the hue shift mask slot.

for liltoon, I think the animation will hue shift a specific material. If not, just have a hue shift mask of all black for the body material, and the hue shift will do nothing to it.

[neon plover]

The hair and body, both have separated mats.

[weak basin]

so on your materials, check hue shift for the hair, and make sure hue shift is unchecked for the body

[neon plover]

What if I want to HueShift the Body too. But using a different slider/toggle?

[weak basin]

You might need separate meshes. Or, try creating an animation instead and you can put that in vrcfury toggle as a radial still.

I can do some testing later but for now I need to take my brother and sisters to the bus stop

[neon plover]

Okay, so, HueShift wasn't even activated on the other materials. I enabled that, but now 1 Slider controls all Materials's HueShift.
I want to make each material their own HueShift Slider.

[neon plover]

No worries

[weak basin]

i will be back like, around 7am my time (est, its 6:36am rn)

[neon plover]

Yeah, Seperated meshes work. But that would be Unoptimized for Quest.

[neon plover]

No worries, take your time.

[weak basin]

I think you have to separate the meshes in blender and reimport. Animating seems to affect the mesh not the particular material.

[neon plover]

Yea, that's what I concluded. But that would be unoptimized.
Guess there's no other way.

Anyways, I'll look more into it and see If I can find a more optimized way.
Thanks for you help 👍

[weak basin]

having +1 mesh is not that bad really. I think it would be worth the less optimization for the feature

[neon plover]

Yes, It's worth it.

Will do it

[crimson steeple]

hey so im having issues with unity not letting me build in android ive installed the android files for unity and it still doesnt work ive also unistalled all of unity and vcc and its still not working in the slightest

[neon plover]

Quest supports Physbones, right?

I've made a duplicate of the main avi, did the quest settings(mostly materials), didn't even touch the physbones(yes they're still there), so in theory, physbones should work in Quest/Android.

[magic slate]

yes

[flint forge]

Quest support physbones, but has hard limits that if gone above deletes all physbones.

[snow wind]

I want to setup my avatar shoes so I can change between multiple textures

[neon plover]

Like? What limits?

[flint forge]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-performance-ranking-system/#mobile-avatar-component-limits

[flint forge]

While a shader could support it, the common way to do that is by swapping materials.
You can do that trivially if you use VRCFury, just a toggle with a material swap.

[snow wind]

Oh I though material swap from what I seen from a video that you got use multiple meshes

I just realized I'm in the wrong channel

[flint forge]

Nah, performance wise material swaps make no difference.

You are simply replacing one material with another, only change in performance comes from if the shader is different and if it has more or less textures in it

[snow wind]

Oh that seems easy so far

Thx

[mystic mural]

Hello Can anyone help me i bought an avatar than uploaded the avatar to pc than tried to make it quest compatible but they are white no matter what I do

[burnt mural]

Can you show how the avatar looks like now? Also i personally prefer toon standard over toon lit

[burnt mural]

Your eyes may have a specular on pc.
I personally removed that completely in blender for my quest avatar

Othetwise, my eyes would also turn white

[weak basin]

Why would this cause them to render white on quest? This shouldn't affect toon standard.

[weak basin]

Specular is a shader thing, you can't remove a shader option in blender. What do you actually mean?

[burnt mural]

Because the matetial is transparent on PC

[burnt mural]

You can remove the material and triangles from it

It covers the eyes

[weak basin]

Ohh, so like an extra layer of mesh on the eyes? You could have said that

[burnt mural]

Yep, thats how it works in my avi as well

On quest this was just removed

[weak basin]

If it is it's own material, just set it to vrchat > mobile > particles > multiply

[burnt mural]

I never Experimented with particles tbh

And since most people don't notice i kept removing it

[weak basin]

Is there a cover on the eyes? Can that be set to its own material? You can use multiply on the eye cover to make it invisible.

[mystic mural]

No cover one is the iris other is the background (Scalara)

[weak basin]

And you are sure there is no other meshes on the face covering the eyes?

[burnt mural]

Ahhh

Its probably transparent on desktop still

Also why tf are they different materials lol

[mystic mural]

Idk im new to avatar making it worked fine before when I uploaded it to Pc

[weak basin]

But the iris would render in front no? So it wouldn't be all white

[mystic mural]

When I switched to Quest this happend

[mystic mural]

That's what im trying

[weak basin]

Create a material called invis. Make it vrchat > mobile > particles > multiply. Set this material to every material slot on the face or head until the eyes appear. That will help you identify what is covering the eyes

[mystic mural]

K will try

[arctic slate]

most furry models have a 2nd mesh layer over the eyes to give a transparent glossy effect so 99% of the time when the eyes "disappear" on a furry model its that 2nd layer, honestly id make a seperate quest .Fbx and just remove the mesh when you're optimizing it for that platform

[snow wind]

Omg guys I figured out how to show people avatars so their not pixelated on quest. And it was the eye icon the whole time

So fallback is pixelated version?

[arctic slate]

its imposters not fallbacks anymore but yeah its always been like that

[idle harbor]

F words

[tight willow]

so when i get to here how do i know whats supposed to be transparent or not

[weak basin]

#avatar-quest message

in the top right, you use that render mode and the texture should show up on the mesh in edit mode

[tight willow]

so do i cut everything thats orange highlighted? sorry im brand new to blender and never used it before so im trying my best to understand

[weak basin]

it will all be highlighted orange at the start. click in the grey space not on the mesh to unhighlight everything. Then you can outline the mesh with the knife tool by clicking dots along the line between the transparent parts of the mesh and the textured part

[tight willow]

how do i tell the textures apart? do they look different?

[weak basin]

try looking from a different angle, its hard to see, but I can see where the suit stops and the outer layer of mesh continues

[weak basin]

ok yeah that angle doesnt help, but it is difficult but you have to look really close to see the mesh in front of the white undershirt

[tight willow]

yeah idk what im doing i think imma give up on this one and try to make one a seprate way or something cuz this just aint working with me

[weak basin]

So sad to hear you gave up on quest. But vroids are hell for quest converting actually so I understand. I'm a veteran quest converter and I even hate them and generally avoid vroid assets

[amber coyote]

Is there any way to make a game object just not exist on quest?
I have a camera on my avatar and it keeps saying that the validation failed because of it
I tried Easy Quest Switch but all it does is disable the object, not delete it

[weak basin]

Ctrl + d the Avi, remove on quest version.

[amber coyote]

Well damn it

[versed cradle]

Does anyone know how to upload avatars cuz I dont how to do it and I don't trush myself because I over think

[magic slate]

Lots of us know how - where are you stuck?

[versed cradle]

No I don't trust myself with anything vrchat avatar related

Also my PC is shit so I need someone to do it for free

[magic slate]

ah.

[versed cradle]

Yea

Would you said me a video on how to do it for when i do try it

[fathom gazelle]

Hi everyone

[spark orbit]

Bro just drop the scam and be done with it

[old scarab]

Does anyone know where I can get good avatar bases for free?

[amber coyote]

Just look up random stuff on gumroad for example

My avatar is an edit of a miku one

[old scarab]

Oo

[spark lichen]

Does anyone know how to make a avatar w outlines on quest ?

[untold cobalt]

Yes. Paint it on poorly 😊

[spark lichen]

Wut

[eternal obsidian]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/913lbud30xc
something like this can do it, but it looks a little glitchy and doubles your triangle count

[spark lichen]

I made the avi in unity how do I export it and put it in blender

[eternal obsidian]

in blender, file->import ->fbx to import the avatar file from the unity folder

make sure to back up the original fbx because you might see some issues when you export from blender, depending on teh original export settings

[weak basin]

There is a unity outline tool for quest. https://booth.pm/en/items/5991591

[spark lichen]

Thank u sm

[kindred fractal]

So curious as to how this works

[solid dock]

Can someone help me with my vroid avi and add the VRC stuff to it ?? I have the stuff ready for it!!!

[magic slate]

there are lots of tutorials, have you watched one? Can you explain where you're stuck?

[tacit cape]

Hey i got a avi request can you make me a fancy glamrock foxy avatar with toggles please thank u

[magic slate]

head over to the VRC Traders if you want to commission someone, you'll just get scammers DMing you around here.

[tacit cape]

Where do I go to get there

[magic slate]

The link is somewhere in #1204490664637890580

oh

I meant to say "VRC Traders discord"

[eternal obsidian]

Actually, VRChat added a Toon Standard (Outline) that does it by default. All these other methods are old, from when we didn't have that option. You should use that.

how long has that option been there, omg. And it has hue shift too!

[spark lichen]

that toon standard outline method will only show on pc </3

[eternal obsidian]

really? It's listed in VRChat's mobile shaders

[steady idol]

Theres 2 toon standards

Outline and no outline

It directly specifies that the outline is pc only

[eternal obsidian]

I see that now. That's a pretty silly way to do it on their part

Sorry, I'm way behind on vrchat lore

[steady idol]

Whats silly about making a diet poiyomi?

[eternal obsidian]

Just that it's essentially a PC-only shader that's listed under the mobile shaders
the Toon standard shader itself seems great

The hue slider is soooo useful

[weak basin]

Vrchat always be doing that to us, same with vrchat/mobile/particles/alpha blend. Like get that shit OUT the mobile folder.

[magic slate]

but that is a mobile shader

[weak basin]

But it's not allowed on mobile

[magic slate]

sure it is - just not on avatars

[weak basin]

So the avatar SDK shouldn't have it

[magic slate]

I'm assuming they're in the base. I certainly agree it should be more clear.

[weak basin]

Or at least, fix the damn error message

"you can only use shaders in vrchat/mobile" where you think I got it vrchat?

Also neat color kazin. See I told you you were well known around here

[magic slate]

blue is a lovely color.

[weak basin]

Your the only one I've seen with the role, though I could be just not seeing them

[steady idol]

deantwo also has the role iirc

[magic slate]

there's a handful

[steady idol]

thought I saw someone mention its an experimental role?

[magic slate]

yay, I am a guinea pig!

[steady idol]

would be fun if I had the role but I get why I dont have it
-# I do talk a lot of shit

[floral mulch]

it's ok bro, one day 🫵

[neon locust]

how do i make a vrcfury toggle something different depending on if the user is on quest or PC? I made a screen that uses custom shaders and those shaders aren't compatible with quest. The screen can change what image is displayed by changing the material with a material swap toggle. what i want to do is when someone on PC switches the image, PC users see the version of the material with the shaders and quest users see the version of the material without the shaders.

[magic slate]

That just happens - you can't upload the quest version with PC shaders so that version will already have quest-compatible shaders

[neon locust]

so is there no way to set it up like how i want to? i made versions of each face with quest compatible materials.

[magic slate]

no I'm saying it happens automatically because the quest and PC versions are entirely different avatars

[neon locust]

when i converted it to quest it didnt convert any of the materials that had the shader

so on quest it appears pink

[magic slate]

yes, you have to actually use quest shaders and set those up specifically

I don't know what "converted" means here though

[neon locust]

Vrc quest tools didn’t automatically convert the shaders to be quest compatible.

[kindred fractal]

You can change the materials to quest shaders

[magic slate]

Yeah you can totally do that manually

[neon locust]

how do i make the shaders quest compatable then? im using a shader graph.

[kindred fractal]

You can use majority of the vrchat mobile shaders

[neon locust]

do i have to change the shaders on the pc version?

[kindred fractal]

You don’t, no

[neon locust]

so do i make a new material in the quest materials folder with the same name?

[steady idol]

Just make a separate quest material and upload to quest side

[neon locust]

so how do i make a toggle on the pc side toggle the quest material on the quest side

[steady idol]

Make a separate animation for quest side

[neon locust]

should it have the same path on VRCfury?

[steady idol]

Why are you using fury for it

[neon locust]

idk how to do it outside of fury

[neon locust]

what im trying to do is make this toggle change the object to this material on pc (first image) and this material on quest (second image)

or is that not possible

[magic slate]

Sure it is, even if you have to use a separate animator on the quest version with a different animation.

[neon locust]

so how do i let it know which material to switch to on the quest version?

[magic slate]

when, using separate animators? I don't usually make quest content so I don't know about shortcuts

[neon locust]

i guess ill just try a couple ideas i have first, see if i can get it working

in the quest version the toggle is set up to change the face and it is linked to the pc version, but i cant edit just the material in the quest version, when i click edit in prefab it makes me edit the PC version's toggle

[weak basin]

Unpack the prefab, and then save the quest version as a new prefab when you are done

[neon locust]

do i need to unpack the pc version as well? some new toggles i added dont get added to the prefab, i dont know if i need them packed or not for it to link

[weak basin]

it doesn't matter if the toggles are in a prefab or outside of one, as long as they are on the avatar. Just make sure you have all the same toggle components on both pc and quest. The toggles can be different like reference different materials, toggle different objects, etc, but the menu pathing and exclusive tags should be kept the same so the parameters are generated the same.

[neon locust]

ok

thank you for the help

[merry grove]

does anyone know when we will finally stop getting this error message when trying to use vrchat particles?

[flint forge]

Never, Alpha blended is just for worlds.
They are part of the base SDK package, which the World and Avatar SDKs are built upon.

[merry grove]

oh.. thats why but it looks good onsome quest avis

[flint forge]

While it was at one point possible to break the ToS with ToS breaking third party SDKs and force the shader onto avatars, it isn't anymore since they started server-side checking and processing avatars.

But mobile GPUs have issues with transparency and the only reason it is allowed in worlds is because its placement is deliberate and won't change, so its performance cost will be entirely on the world creator to deal with.
Avatars can not be accounted for like that.

[wanton citrus]

any body know why that happen it shoud not look so black

[weak basin]

Toon standard? Set the min brightness to like .0001 in the shading section. Some worlds set the brightness to 0

[wanton citrus]

Thx

[high ore]

How can i make an effect that fades in and out AND is quest compatible

[weak basin]

What kind of effect. Like a mesh fading in and out?

[high ore]

Yea or like a particle, I know it can be done because I’ve seen one of my friends do it but they refuse to teach me

[weak basin]

a mesh or a particle? those are different things

[kindred fractal]

Maybe they mean a dissolve effect on quest?

[high ore]

Idk man I think it’s a particle

[jade onyx]

Ok.
I have been hitting my head on my desk for a few days now and can't solve my issue. Im trying to solve this with VRC Fury to make it drag and drop modular.

On my PC avi I have an asset with 2 radial sliders that control how much damage is displayed via 2 decals on 2 section of the mesh.

For quest decals dont work so I want to make a workaround. If the slider is 0> swap material to the selected damage at 100% regardless of percentage. For each one this works great.

My challenge is making logic in VRC fury so that if toggle a is 0> AND toggle b is 0> apply texture C that has both damage alphas present.

Can this be done? Can a 3rd toggle "watch" the other two and turn on if both are 0> or is this a limitation? If it is a limitation is there a way to do this otherwise?

[magic slate]

you could do that without fury

[jade onyx]

my knowledge of proper avi toggle set up is limited. Im unsure how to make a radial without VRC Fury currently.
And would making it without remove the drag and drop-ability im looking for?

[magic slate]

oh I have no idea what drag and drop is in this case, I was just saying that if you can't do that logic with fury, you can absolutely do it in the animator without.

[jade onyx]

I figured you can. But VRC fury lets you make assets for distribution drag and drop onto bases that just work with no set up. That's wat Im looking for here.

[magic slate]

OH that's what you mean. So yes, you can still make a custom animator and have that be part of a VRCFury prefab. If you can't do the logic you want directly with Fury components.

"Full Controller" is the Fury component in that case.

[jade onyx]

if only Quest had more than one detail slot on Toon standard this wouldnt be an issue lol.

[jade onyx]

Ok looking at that component now...
So this would amke it drag and drop!

Cool. now I need to lear how to do the actual logic. I assume blend trees are gonna be involved.

[magic slate]

you could do blend trees if you want

[jade onyx]

That being said I find it silly that this cant be done without custom controllers. VRC Fury seems robust and im surprised an if case isnt implemented...

[magic slate]

Couldn't tell you - I don't use those components.

[jade onyx]

Hoping a VRCFury wiz pops in the chat

[magic slate]

there's a discord specifically for it

[jade onyx]

ahhh. You are smart!

Off I go!

[magic slate]

I sometimes know where to look for things 🙂

[stoic steppe]

Hey my avatar is flying left when I have fly loco on, how do I fix fhis

[dim cove]

fellow dinosaur fan :D
also wdym "flying left"? try to elaborate a bit more on that

[stoic steppe]

Basically when I try and fly up and swings me to the left instead at the same speed no matter what

[viscid star]

How do I make a eating gimmick ?

[weak basin]

There are many ways. You want to set up a contact reciever on the mouth, and a sender on the food. When the contact is true, maybe a chew animation on the face, and the food goes away, or has a bite taken out of it depending on how the mesh is set up.

You can also have a 2nd larger reciever on the mouth, and when the sender touches that one and isn't touching the smaller one it opens the mouth.

You got to basically set up the contacts, and then do some manual FX logic, and create animations for it

[magic slate]

that image? $10?

[steady idol]

judging by the crayon
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
thatd be like 15 dollars since the artist needs to buy more crayons

[magic slate]

it's cute

[rapid cradle]

can anybody help me? Idk what else to cut off xD

[arctic slate]

Thry's avatar performance tool can tell you whats taking up the most space so you can figure out what needs optimiztion most on the model and work from there

[bleak patio]

I meant turn it into an avatar

[bleak patio]

I meant turned into avatar

[steady idol]

this isnt a commission server

go to vrctraders for that

[arctic slate]

there also isnt really a set base price for avatars so it varies from creator to creator

[bleak patio]

Thanks

[rapid cradle]

how am I supposed to fix it when the body takes 37mb already? xD

[magic slate]

you start by fixing the body, of course.

[rapid cradle]

how do I fix it? I already compresed the mesh

[magic slate]

fewer shape keys, fewer polygons, the usual things

[rapid cradle]

how do I remove shape keys 1 by 1 ?

[magic slate]

Blender, you can simply delete them.

also there are some unity optimizer tools often discussed in here, you could try those

[rapid cradle]

oh no xD

[flint forge]

Best to just use something like blendshape optimizer with vrcfury, but it only does its things when building and uploading and leaves your avatar untouched.

It can even bake in blendshapes that aren't animated.

[rapid cradle]

is that a default package in vrcfury?

[magic slate]

should be, but the docs are at vrcfury.com

[rapid cradle]

lol what?

great now I can0t use sdk in windows

VRC fury stripped my avatar xDDDDD

[untold cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-cool-stickman-wave-gif-25383838

strip it so good it became a stick.

[gentle sleet]

where do i find this setting?

[magic slate]

not sure why you want to?

[gentle sleet]

It won’t upload

[young mirage]

The error is related to the file size of your avatar file.

[gentle sleet]

How do I fix that

[young mirage]

You'll need to make it fit. So you either need to optimize it better or leave some things on the chopping block.

At least for the quest version.

[magic slate]

errors are red stop symbols, yellow caution signs are just warnings.

[simple scroll]

no callout, just report scammer to #discord-tickets instead

[gaunt anvil]

He or she is not in the server

[solar perch]

Hiii friends 😄 I am trying to make a model that is quest compaitible for the first time. I uploaded it to quest first because it failed security checks when I had it on my PC ones ID? BUT I further compressed it to be 10mb! Yay! But now I am getting this ? mark? Is this normal?

[kindred fractal]

This is normal, yes

[gentle obsidian]

how would i fix this for quest?? the texture is the same i used for pc and pc looks right

[magic slate]

for quest you can't use alpha transparency, you'll have to remove that or maybe do a full face material swap or something

[gentle obsidian]

damn, alr thank you

[young mirage]

Is it no alpha blend, or no alpha at all (even cutout)?

[magic slate]

none

[weak basin]

you can use additive if the blush and transparent bits are on its own material slot. If they arn't, you can assign the blush its own material in blender

[weak basin]

you can use additive and multiply, which is simular to alpha, but is not the same thing.

[young mirage]

Also adding a second material will inflate your avatar's performance rank all the way to Medium.

[weak basin]

quest avatars are always very poor

almost always

[weak basin]

i know it says nsfw, but I promise i've edited it to be sfw don't call the police on me

[gentle obsidian]

lmao

[gentle obsidian]

okie thank you

[weak basin]

if your blush is in the face material, let me know I can open up blender and show you how to make it it's own material

[gentle obsidian]

it partly is and partly isnt. its part of the face texture but only affects under the eyes where blushing it. and has its own material slot for it too

i started the upload to pc and waiting for that to finish to try again on quest

it works

is there any way to make it brighter? like on pc i have a emission on it and it looks like this with it

[weak basin]

you could edit the texture to have more of the blush there, Like douplicate the layer, erase everything but the blush, and just duplicate that edited layer until its as bright as you want it. Also, the blush will be brighter and darker in game based on lighting so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

[weak basin]

forgor reply button ^

[gentle obsidian]

that is true forgot about lighting in worlds

[gentle obsidian]

thank you a lot tho

[gentle obsidian]

Hella smart!

[cosmic lance]

Sorry for asking but can sm upload an avi for me im kinda broke so i made it on the school laptop its not a lot it’s just some toggles as well so dm me if you can help me for free

[young mirage]

The way you say "for free" almost feels like you're trolling.

(And yet I keep on trying, mindlessly replying. /lyr/ref)

[agile delta]

working on joker from fighters destiny

[cosmic lance]

I’m not trolling think you could help?

[young mirage]

I'm not willing to upload a random avatar to my account.
I am not going to try to log in with yours.
Sorry.

[cosmic lance]

Ok I get that!

[wanton scarab]

You could look on the vrctraders server but I doubt many people will want to work for free

[cosmic lance]

What is that?

[burnt mural]

A discord server that you can commission people in for, for money, to make you an avatar or do edits to it.

[frozen dock]

ts genuinely so stupid 😭

[kindred fractal]

Just use multiply or additive

Alpha Blended is for worlds more than anything

[frozen dock]

still

weird as fuck

[kindred fractal]

Yeh it be like that

[frozen dock]

I wish there was a proper transparency shader for quest 🥀

[kindred fractal]

Depending on what it is you could use the knife tool in blender or just fake the transparency

[wanton citrus]

More and more quest players are saying that my clothes and facial expressions are constantly changing. With the clothes, it switches them on and off, and with the face, it cycles through all expressions.
eny idea why

[fading olive]

maybe the toggles are tied to the GestureLeft GestureRight parameters

[queen cargo]

Can someone help me make it not look like that?

[weak basin]

Maybe it's the mesh compression? I don't know what the PC version looks like but the image looks fine to me

[queen cargo]

The pc version is this

[weak basin]

So it might be mesh compression, or it was thrown in poly tool. You can check the mesh compression in the fbx settings

[queen cargo]

I managed to upload the pc version

For android

[upper haven]

why in The Actual Fuck does 1 particle emitter and 1 sound = VERY POOR PERFORMANCE

"come create content for vrchat! just make sure it's not interesting at all or your avatar gets blocked by default"

[sage mesa]

I mean you are building for a mobile device

[upper haven]

i'm pretty sure a quest 3 can handle a sound but idk

[sage mesa]

VRC still supports the quest 2 so that's that the perf rankings are for

[sage mesa]

a sound sure, but a lobby of people who all want audio on their avatar, that gets expensive fast

[flint forge]

You also can't have sounds on Quest avatars.

[upper haven]

safety settings block almost everything by default

?????????

bullshit

what utter bullshit

[sage mesa]

Build for PC if you want better specs :/

[upper haven]

i don't own a computer capable of playing vrchat

all i have is this quest

[sage mesa]

best make do with what you have then

[upper haven]

unless you have a workaround to run vrchat on steam deck in vr i guess i'm just fucked

[sage mesa]

seems you're fucked unfortunately

[steady idol]

what do you expect for a mobile phone strapped to your face

[upper haven]

idk the ability to play a sound

[steady idol]

audio is heavy on performance

[upper haven]

and is disabled by default for almost every trust level

[steady idol]

you cant have it AT ALL on quest

[upper haven]

do particles not work either or did i fuck something up

[steady idol]

particles have to calculate for every single particle that is emitted so its heavy on performance

[upper haven]

okay. but do they work on quest

[steady idol]

limited

[upper haven]

wdym limited

[steady idol]

its significantly limited on what you can do with it

[upper haven]

i have a particle emitter that's just supposed to emit 1 particle when enabled. would that just get reduced to 0

[steady idol]

no?

[upper haven]

then i fucked it up

[steady idol]

if its only supposed to emit one then set the max particle limit to 1

[upper haven]

did that

[steady idol]

dont know what your particle settings are or how you are enabling it

[upper haven]

it's been a while since i've used a unity particle system i didn't set a burst at the beginning

works now

[midnight crown]

i'm making a Quest version of my PC only avatar, how do i make sure it's particle effect looks as close to the PC only version as possible? here's my PC only particle effect, they're standard 2d billboards

[weak basin]

use standard lite to make a quest material, and put that new material in the render section in the material slot.

use lots of smooth and metallic to get the shine effect

everything else with the particle emitter should be the same

[midnight crown]

using standard lite does this:

[weak basin]

ahh, the particle isnt a mesh

hmm

you could create a mesh in blender that is cut out like you want, or you could leave them as squares

and then for the particle settings, just drag in the mesh you made instead of using billboard

[midnight crown]

i actually tried that but one isn't facing the right way in unity, know how to fix that?

[weak basin]

yeah, you can use toon standard instead and turn the culling mode to off, or you can select the faces in blender and flip the normals

in blender, you can turn on backface culling to see which one isn't the right direction

select the faces in edit mode, and then go to mesh > Normals > Flip to flip them

[midnight crown]

toon standard with culling off just does this

[weak basin]

you can also make your mesh double faced, by using shift + d and then flipping the normals on the dulplicate

[weak basin]

so check specular, and then add smooth and metallic

toon standard was to fix the mesh you made from being fliped the wrong way. You need to add the mesh in the render settings of the particle so it isn't a square

[midnight crown]

what about removing the square outline cause i don't want that

[weak basin]

thats the mesh part

did you create a mesh in blender of the shape you want?

[midnight crown]

yes, how do i make sure they're both facing the right way when i import them into unity?

[weak basin]

thats this part here

[midnight crown]

i mean after i just flipped the face orientation on one so they both face the right way

i don't want them to have any more tris

[weak basin]

turn on backface culling to see which way they face in blender. Then they will face that way in unity

[midnight crown]

yeah i already turned face orientation on and flipped one, weird thing i noticed is the other sides aren't blue, is that a problem?

[weak basin]

why are the sides blue? are you in edit mode?

[midnight crown]

no they aren't blue, normally one side is blue and the other is red when i have face orientation on but they just have one red side with the other uncolored, is that gonna cause a problem?

[weak basin]

uhh I don't know anything about face orientation. But try exporting and see what it does

[midnight crown]

brought them into unity and they're both facing the same direction but they only have one side the other side is just invisible, is that gonna cause any problems with the billboard rendering?

[weak basin]

It shouldn't, because billboard makes it always face the player

[midnight crown]

okay now how do i replace my particles with them?

[weak basin]

In the particle settings, there's somewhere where you can decide the shape of the particle. Like flat, sphere, mesh, etc. You have to set it to mesh and then there will be a slot to drag your mesh

I do have to go to bed, but if you haven't gotten it solved by the morning I will be online and can find the specific settings and take screenshots. (Morning for me is in like ~6 1/2 hours from now)

[midnight crown]

i can't drag the fbx in the slot

when i go up to it it just turns into the circle with a slash through it

[bronze quartz]

trying to add sync dances but for some reason the quest side isnt working the pc side works perfectly

[weak basin]

You have to open up the fbx with the arrow on it and drag the mesh into the slot

[weak basin]

Quest version of sync dances has no dances in it. You have to duplicate the PC action menu and remove some of the dances to make it fit in quest

[midnight crown]

open up?

[weak basin]

So on the fbx in assets, there is an arrow pointing right. Click that and you can see all the meshes and stuff in the fbx. Click and drag the mesh (icon with the grid) into the slot

[midnight crown]

okay so i have 2 meshes each with their own material i'm gonna use so now how do i make them render in the same order as the texture sheet animation? as u can see it kinda messed a lot of things up

[weak basin]

Hmm I don't know why some are still invisible. Maybe use toon standard with culling set to none, turn on specular and up the smooth and metallic, set the shading to realistic,

I don't know how to get them to follow a texture sheet. I assume the sheet animation changes their shape. If you want them shiny and stuff you can't use a transparency shader like additive or multiply, but if you want the cutout to work with the sheet animation you can't have the specular stuff. The particles might have to stay the same shape, so quest might look a little different

[midnight crown]

no the sheet animation just randomly chooses which shape to output, or is that what u meant?

[weak basin]

Yeah, the shape can't be controlled by a texture for this because you want the specular effects. To control the shape with a texture you need some sort of transparency or cutout. Quest cant do both transparency and specular at the same time, only 1 at a time.

So for quest they might all be the same shape, but it will still look cool

[midnight crown]

they're already cutouts though (notice the sides of the geometry?), quest not supporting transparency and specular at the same time is the whole reason i turned them into 2d meshes

the pc version is just transparent quads with textures

[weak basin]

right, but for a texture to change the shape of the mesh, it needs to have cutout shader effect, which is different from a cut mesh. the texture cannot change the shape of the mesh. On PC, the texture can hide parts of the mesh and show others, making the cutout shader effect. since its a shader effect, it can be changed with a sprite sheet. A texture cannot control the actual shape of the mesh, which is what I think you are trying to do?

[midnight crown]

@weak basin see those 2 meshes on the left? i'm trying to get the particle effect to output them in a random order just like the pc version of the particle effect, they each have their own preset materials and textures that i don't want to change

i'm assuming i can't use a texture sheet animation right?

[weak basin]

right. okay. how about this, we use two particle emitters. One with 1 mesh and 1 with the other. cut the emission of each emitter by half. That way you will have a random assortment of the two particle shapes going. You might have to go back in blender and separate the two meshes into separate objects. They can be in the same fbx, just in edit mode select all and click p and separate by loose parts.

[weak basin]

forgor reply function ^

[midnight crown]

they're already separate objects i just placed them next to each other

[weak basin]

ahh ok

[midnight crown]

first how do i get them to render in billboard mode and not be invisible

i know i had to switch the render mode to mesh but is there another way get them to always face the player?

[weak basin]

Hmm, I'm not sure. I wonder of you would benefit from making them 3d instead of planes? Since it won't render billboard

[midnight crown]

i'm assuming billboard won't work on just 1 or 2 axis's either right?

[midnight crown]

if i do have to use a 3d mesh i'll just use a low poly droplet like this, but then how would i get them to not tumble when falling so it still looks like a stream of mud?

[wanton flicker]

can somebody please make a avatar of ghostface from the game hunter showdown? im surprised it hasn’t already been made.

[buoyant wigeon]

#1138520828556890214

[jade ibex]

Can someone please make me a marvel rivals jean grey avatar im begging

I dont need the phoenix force

Just jean

Plus the ponytail skin

[steady orbit]

Just like pwease make this dude an avatar (it's Clancy from 21 pilots search it up)

(Btw there is one but it's a stormtrooper so I'm looking for one that's just a stormtrooper)

(Wait I meant one that's not a stormtrooper and instead the actual person)

[cosmic lance]

Can anyone help me with the vfx on my avi it’s one toggle

Dm or reply if you can I have the palate

Package

[weak basin]

@jade ibex @steady orbit make a post here https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1138520828556890214

[bronze quartz]

ok- so im a dumbass and cant find the actions menu is it the expresion wheel? the fx? paramiters???

[weak basin]

So when you drag sync dances onto the avatar, there is a vrcfury component that merges the animators. One is called action. Click on the one with action in the name and it will bring you to the file location in assets. Then you can Ctrl + d to make a copy, and double click the copy to open and edit it. You have to edit the quest prefab and drag the new copy of the PC action controller over the quest action controller in the vrcfury component.

to remove dances, find the dance you don't want, and set the animation to 'none'

[bronze quartz]

rhank youuuu

[brazen marsh]

Do I need untily to do this

[dim cove]

yes

unity

[brazen marsh]

Ok

I'm not good at this so idk what I'm doing

[stoic steppe]

Has anyone tried editing an avatar using nomad sculpt

[weak basin]

so, my quest sync dances isn't working rn, on quest its only playing the first frame of the dance. I'm currently troubleshooting. I have converted sync dances before so I might have to go check my old setup and see what I did differently. I will get back to you when I get mine working

[silent ember]

Does anyone know where to get jit Avis

[wind elk]

7 gesture in src folder (Porady VR)

rimworld

[cosmic lance]

Can anyone help me with a vfx toggle for free? It’s one toggle and I’ve been getting bullied for asking everyone else dm me or replay if you can help

[weak basin]

You might have a better time giving details of what you are trying to do and someone might be able to explain how to do it

[bronze quartz]

i keep getting the notifs stupidly late

thank you for the help take your time!

[bronze quartz]

also i did something wrong lmao

[cosmic lance]

Can anyone help me

[weak basin]

so what I ended up doing was using the pc prefab, and editing it to be quest compatible.

I ctrl + d the pc prefab to make a duplicate

drag the duplicate into your quest avatar

click the arrow on the right of the prefab to open it up and edit the prefsb

drag the duplicated action controller over the original action controller

under contacts, delete the last 4

then, in Audio, delete the spacial audio source and the audio source

save that, and then just edit the duplicated action menu to remove some of the dances until the quest avatar is under 10mb compressed and 40mb uncompressed

[bronze quartz]

thank youuuu!!!

[viscid meadow]

Does anyone have $5.34

[bronze quartz]

i think i screwed up somewhere

[weak basin]

The PC parameters should have all the parameters. Check the PC parameter list and see if it has SpeedController

Then check if the prefab is using this parameter list

[bronze quartz]

update only the first 1 or 2 frames start then freezes

[weak basin]

did you use the pc prefab and duplicate it?

the quest prefab does that usually, but duplicating the pc prefab and converting it like the screenshots show made it work for me.

[junior condor]

Trying to male it quest compatible but when I switch the textures the whole avi toggle wont work idk why

[magic slate]

Likely the Poiyomi materials do more complicated things than the Quest shader can, you'd have to figure out what. Quite possibly decals or RGBA masking.

[bronze quartz]

yea! i did as the pictures said

[weak basin]

Make sure it's that edited duplicated prefab you are using, and not the quest one. I don't know why it would still have the issue because using the PC prefab fixed it for me.

[kindred fractal]

She comes with Quest already also

if you're buying from LilMissPasta it includes PC, Quest and Opti

and also a FT prefab

[junior condor]

The issue is the quest version doesn't have the skeleton underneath

[kindred fractal]

quest doesn't allow transparency so the skeleton wouldn't be underneath

it also states it here in the listing (See-through jelly effect)

[junior condor]

I made it work tho

[kindred fractal]

oh, alright

[junior condor]

:)

[kindred fractal]

ohh so you used multiply or additive, kewl

[junior condor]

Yeah

[magic slate]

that looks pretty decent

[valid rune]

Can someone please help me figure out why everytime i Upload a quest version of this avatar, it says successful but then still only shows PC version on the VRChat website and won't let me use it on Quest? I've uploaded a bunch of versions of this avatar before on Shadow PC but this is the first time I'm using Unity on my imac and I have no idea whats happening. All the shaders are VRChat Mobile Standard Lite and it's under 10mb. It says successful, just only shows the PC version online.

[pure fiber]

check that the blueprint id is the same

[valid rune]

it is!

[opaque mural]

are you in android build mode?

[valid rune]

I am

[opaque mural]

might help to send a few screenshots of the sdk window and avatars inspector. im pretty new to avatar creation but that would also help others look and see what might be causing you issues

[valid rune]

This is the SDK window. I noticed it uploads suspiciously fast lol, almost like there is nothing there. Which I'm not sure how?

[magic slate]

This avatar is extremely poor for android, I'd bet the server-side checking rejects it.

[valid rune]

Yes I'm okay with that

[magic slate]

poly count and material slots are way beyond reasonable limits

but you were just complaining about it not working - this is likely why

[valid rune]

It's 1/5 the size of all the other versions of it I have uploaded lol

[valid rune]

Why do the ones five times this size upload?

[magic slate]

what "size" are you measuring though?

[valid rune]

The triangles. It fits under the 10mb required though too

[magic slate]

there are many factors here, compressed size is just one

[valid rune]

I upload this same avatar just in different outfits all the time on unity on PC< this is my first time doing it on my imac. I'm thinking this is the problem?

[magic slate]

probably not, there should be no difference

[valid rune]

I can't get VRCQuest Tools to work on imac for one so that's a difference

I had to manually change all this stuff to quest

[magic slate]

ahh, yeah I was wondering if that worked on just Windows (I use Linux)

[valid rune]

Yea it seems i can only add it through VCC and I can't get that on mac 🙁

Could it be a shader thing? I tried MatcapLit and Toon Lit and Standard Lite

all chat GPTs recommendations for quest side lol

[magic slate]

you can use Alcom on the mac though

I'd probably ignore chat GPT or any other AI-like thing and instead ask here.

alcom: https://github.com/vrc-get/vrc-get/blob/master/vrc-get-gui/README.md

(we Linux users also have this problem - but it's not, this is better anyway 🙂 )

[valid rune]

I had a million questions, Chat GPT has been teaching me since the summer, that's how I learned! But yea we are striking out there so that's why I'm here lol fingers crossed

[valid rune]

Thank you!!

[magic slate]

Yeah it's generally kinda awful - it can't be trusted to give accurate info.

[valid rune]

it did a great job teaching me though, i haven't had any issues with uploading any avatars until todaaaaay lol

[valid rune]

Do I still put those codes in to add the packages to Unity like I would in VCC?

[magic slate]

codes?

[valid rune]

nvm i got it, but omg you're an angel for sharing this with me. Thank you so much!!

[magic slate]

no problem!

[valid rune]

You solved my problem, thank you!!! Something with the way I had tried to manually convert it didn't work, but with Alcom i could use Quest tools and that made it upload. Thank you soooo much

[weak basin]

does the quest avatar have any other contacts besides the sync dances ones?

[bronze quartz]

i removed all other contacts for the avatar since i made a compleatly new build of my oc just for the sync dances

[weak basin]

hmmm, so mine had extra contacts and thats whats been causing my recent issue i believe. check the sdk validations and see if it says anything about things being removed on upload

[bronze quartz]

alrightt will do
(currently on campus doing office duties lmao)

[weak basin]

yeah whenever you get to it

we will conquer sync dances for quest

[valid rune]

What does avatar validation failed mean? I uploaded my avatar, made a few changes, uploaded it again, then came back and added an extra material swap on a shirt, now it's saying avatar validation failed

[magic slate]

Remember the part where I pointed out your extreme polygon and materials count? It's likely flagging those.

[valid rune]

It wasn't that, I upload avatars all the time that have more triangles than this. It was something I did wrong with the material swap, I figured it out lol. Thank you!

[magic slate]

ugh.

[valid rune]

i'm working on no sleep, definitely a user error lol

[weak basin]

there is no hard set limit on materials and polys btw, at least not on quest. the more mats and polys, the more mb, so at some point it will be too much, but the error it gives wont be a validations failed, it will be a mb fail.

[weak basin]

this won't prevent you from uploading, but all your physics and wiggles will be deleted on upload because you are over the limit on physbones. On Quest, there is a hard limit of 8 physbone components and 64 physbone transforms.

[valid rune]

Yes thank you!! thT wasn’t an issue though! I put 3 bones on the hair and one on the boobs and they showed up on quest

[weak basin]

yeah, quest tool changes won't appear in the validations, so that makes sense

[magic slate]

Never said or implied that there was, but we don't know the criteria for the server-side checks, just that stuff like the build we were discussing tends to trip them.

[weak basin]

You won't get a unity error for server-side checks.

[magic slate]

No, but neither was the person I was talking to.

[midnight marten]

I’m trying to upload an avatar for quest after changing the build to android. It says it failed and “Avatar Validation failed”. What should I do

[arctic slate]

send a screenshot of the stat of the model from the SDK upload panel

[midnight marten]

The stat???

[arctic slate]

in your SDK's upload panel theres a dropdown that lists the models stats

[midnight marten]

Yes

I’m changing them, but the problem is when I change the one for the eyebrows, they do this

[arctic slate]

change the shader on the meshes to one under VRchat/Mobile since non-sdk shaders arent allowed on android and lower texture resolution to try and get the model's overall size down

[arctic slate]

they look like that because they likely require transparency which isnt supported for that platform

[midnight marten]

So I can’t fix it?

[arctic slate]

you can fix the avatar validation thing but the eyebrows+eyelashes would need to be fixed in blender by using something like the knife tool to manually cut the mesh into shape, which isnt great but will look better then they are now

[midnight marten]

Ahhh nvm I’ll just keep it pc only. Thank you

[meager tundra]

hey so everytime i want to upload a avatar to quest with physbones questies experience the loss of the phys bone component

as if it just vanishes

is there any thing that i can do to fix that?

[magic slate]

do you have a warning in the SDK build window that says you have too many physbones and thus they'll be removed on build?

[weak basin]

You can use Vrchat > mobile > particles > multiply on the eyebrows to get the transparency effect you want

Tapping the sign

[weak basin]

So quest can only have 8 physbone components and 64 physbone transforms. You have to look in the SDK validations to find the ranking that tells you how many physbone components and transforms you have. You can remove physbone components and add transforms to the ignore transforms list to reduce your physbones

You can also take duplicate physbones and just make one physbone on a parent object, instead of each child object having it's own physbone component.

[midnight marten]

They dissapeared

[weak basin]

Find the alpha mask texture, and put it in a negative image generator or in a texture editor. They are free online. You just need a texture where the eyebrows and lashes are black and the background is white.

[midnight marten]

Okay

[weak basin]

Or the background is transparent, either one works

[midnight marten]

Okay I’ll let you know

Didn’t work

They still disappear

@weak basin

[weak basin]

Maybe it's a tiling thing? How was the PC mat set up?

[midnight marten]

I have no idea, I’m not good w this stuff

I got it

When I set the other shaders to vrchat stuff, the colors change

[weak basin]

It's possible your PC materials have multiple texture layers, and when you convert to the quest material Its only seeing the base layer.

I'm at a card shop right now but tomorrow morning I can help more. You'd need to look at the PC material and check the alpha map and see what the tiling and offset is

[buoyant wigeon]

the other person has no idea what they're talking about, transparencies are not supported on quest, they may seem transparent in unity with their method but it will not work in game as quest quite literally cannot render transparencies

you'll need to create 3D mesh eyelashes

[weak basin]

Do you play on quest?

[weak basin]

Here are devs talking about fixing transparency on quest. It does render.

There is a glitch where if you duplicate a poi material, it can have some weird tags linger that mess with how quest renders it, but the solution is to literally create a fresh material and the particle shaders work fine for see through or cut out effects, or 'transparency'

[weak basin]

Here's all the transparency not working on quest apparently (screenshots from Samsung phone)

including the eyebrow cutout that we are trying to achieve

If I had time to get in headset, I could show more, like blush and other face effects.

[burnt mural]

Did you make this avatar?
Also how many particles does this have?

[magic slate]

rule 10, don't advertise or solicit

Your friend should probably go use the VRC Traders discord (link is in #1204490664637890580 )

[turbid hearth]

How do I put an animated gif on a material without having to put each individual frame as a material?

Why doesn't quest even support custom shaders to begin with? Why can't the SDK look at the shader and estimate it's performance too??

And you can still make a lagger while still having the performance rank at excellent without custom animations, the SDK&Server needs to check for overlapping triangles, as a performance check, not just "oh how many mesh renderers are there, 4? No, thats gonna crash a quest headset."

[magic slate]

you don't, you must do this either as a flipbook with a shader that does that for you, or some manual way.

[turbid hearth]

hm

[magic slate]

custom shaders can cause really large peformance problems, including actually crashing small mobile clients (like the quest).

[turbid hearth]

well the shader I'm trying to do is one from Rec Room, and all i'm trying to do is the face wiggle

[magic slate]

can't use it on a quest avatar, so....

[turbid hearth]

yeah and the problem is if i use some 'flipbook' it will take up more texture memory than the shader itself, and I know they're not gonna do anything about it.

[magic slate]

yep

[glass jungle]

Has anyone faced an issue where the VRChat/Mobile/Standard Lite shader turns the whole mesh black in the scene view but on the material view, its all white.

[turbid hearth]

idk

[magic slate]

black is likely due to it using vertex colors. You'll have to remove them from your mesh or use a shader which handles them like the new Toon Standard

[glass jungle]

-# Oh the silly Vertex Colours...

[magic slate]

they're so useful! But not with that shader.

[glass jungle]

I was debating on using that but I'm soo used to Standard Lite.
I'll likely just head on Blender and remove em from here.

Oh there's also the MA Remove Vertex Colour component I could use for the time being.

[weak basin]

You don't even need to use the additive multiply trick. A lot of 'transparency' effects just need either additive or multiply by themselves.

[weak basin]

All 4 are private uploads. Two of the four are quest versions/upgraded from purchased models. The other two are booth models with added clothing, hair, and accessories.

[midnight marten]

Whe uploading an avatar for quest? When I make a new project, what do I add to it?

[spiral siren]

Vrcquesttool

[midnight marten]

Okay even tho I already have the quest avatar file?

[spiral siren]

I mean, if the said avatar is not quest compatible already

[midnight marten]

Do I add VRCFury

[spiral siren]

Then you don't need to add that

[midnight marten]

Ok

Any shaders

[spiral siren]

I mean, it should all be ready to upload to quest

[midnight marten]

Okay so just don’t add anything to the VCC package?

[spiral siren]

If only the creator specifically says on the instructions to add anything

[midnight marten]

Ok

It doesn’t

[spiral siren]

Then you don't need to add anything

[midnight marten]

Poiomi is only for pc right

[spiral siren]

Yes

[midnight marten]

Kk thank you

[spiral siren]

You're welcome

[ivory harbor]

Um hello can anyone make me a avatar based on my oc Willow I don't have much of money wise but I'll give you a shot out to ppl to buy ur avaters ><

[magic slate]

Head over to the VRC Traders discord to commission people, you'll just find scammers here.
Link is in #1204490664637890580
And don't trust the people who are now about to DM you.

[rapid cradle]

does anybody have an idea why my SDK console is locked?

[magic slate]

could try restarting unity

[rapid cradle]

Already tried xD

[rapid cradle]

oh after 4th time it works thx man

[magic slate]

4? annoying.

[rapid cradle]

nvm it still doesnt work

[hybrid cipher]

Your SDK console might be locked due to permissions, another instance running, or a config issue. Try restarting the SDK and check your access rights.

[hybrid cipher]

that’s frustrating 😅. It might be a permissions or config issue then. Have you tried closing all instances and restarting your machine too?

[jade ibex]

Can anyone please make me a jean grey avatar for free? Or is it not possible

[magic slate]

head over to the VRC Traders discord if you want to commission someone.

Link is in #1204490664637890580

[meager marten]

How does one start looking for Quest compatible avatars that are good with full body tracking? Any advice, any search term recommendations for Prism avatar search would be so helpful. 💛

[lethal nebula]

uhhhh... can anyone help me with this? every time i try to upload this avatar it throws an avatar validation error. must be because of this error saying im using an unsupported shader but as you can see i.. am in fact using a supported shader 😅

[magic slate]

That's a world shader, it's not for avatars.

[lethal nebula]

huh, alright

i switched it to multiply and the error disappeared, thanks

[magic slate]

oh actually that's the old one anyway, not even documented anymore

[lethal nebula]

weird its still included if they dont want people to use it, lol

[magic slate]

yep.

[civic barn]

uh please and thank you

[magic slate]

Head over to the VRC Traders discord to commission people, you'll just find scammers here.
Link is in #1204490664637890580

[civic barn]

oh aight bet ok

[magic slate]

(and probably delete that message unless you want lots of DMs from scammers)

[civic barn]

i gotchu

[magic slate]

yeah, it's annoying.

[civic barn]

what type of link is it 😭 ?

theres so many servers

[jovial pier]

Does anyone have any. Mj avatars

[magic slate]

#1138520828556890214

[tidal spindle]

I made an avatar I really liked on Vroid, only to realize that vroid avatars are not quest compatable. Can anyone reccomend similar softwares to vroid that can be used to make quest compatable avatars?

[arctic slate]

vroid can be used for quest it just requires a bit more work to make it compatible

alot of vroid stuff requires transparency so you'd just need to use something like the knife tool to cut-out the mesh aswell as merging seperated meshes and materials when you're in blender

[tidal spindle]

I've tried before, actually! I didn't quite like how it made the model look like a plastic doll. I'm sure that could be fixed by playing around with the textures enough, though.

[rose sail]

she also thinks and ponders for us so we can focus on watching anime

[weak basin]

Try toon standard with flat shading

[glossy wasp]

May i ask somting

So if i may i wass wondering if some of you now avatars for geust dat are kamen roder avatars dat kan henshin

[grave hull]

Yes, there are several VRChat avatar worlds where you can find Kamen Rider avatars that feature henshin (transformation) animations.

[magic slate]

If you're searching for an avatar, package, try #1138520828556890214

[glossy wasp]

Its for meta geust 2 because there are a lot on pc but not on meta for me sentai is also ok

[wintry venture]

So I have like no unity knowledge but I commissioned someone to make me an avatar. They recently reached out to me saying they can’t finish it and that I’m getting a refund. With my refund they gave me the files with all their progress so far. I wanna try to find someone who can help me learn how to finish it rather than just do it for me. Does anyone know someone who might be willing to help me learn unity?
[pls ping me or I won’t see ur response]

[magic slate]

people in here or #avatar-help are often useful. Depends on what sort of help you want.

[wintry venture]

I did not see that channel Ty-

[grave hull]

Yeah that’s rough, but at least you got the files back that’s the most important part tbh

If you still have the Unity project and assets, it’s definitely possible to finish it or learn how to set it up properly.

If you want, I can help @wintry venture

[copper drum]

why isn't my uploaded avatars showing on vrchat??

[burnt mural]

Did you build and test or build and upload it?

[copper drum]

they got deleted...

[noble sparrow]

Poiyomi is not support?

[sage mesa]

No custom shaders for quest avis, just the vrc ones

[exotic apex]

Having an issue trying to troubleshoot an avatar for Quest/Android. Seems to upload fine, previews fine, but once applied is completely pink.

Shader I'm using is the SDK VRChat Mobile Defuse. Have the latest SDK Package being pushed atm via the VRC CC on the project.

[silent siren]

Make sure you don't have an animation swapping the material

[exotic apex]

This was the case! Thank you!

[elder basin]

Hi I am new to vr chat
I just made a custom avatar in pc and its fully working for pc players and i made it quest compatible

by adding module for android and converting it after that
when i upload it with android platform selected

When I equip the avatar the quest players wont see me as my avatar they see me as a frog avatar for some reason

Could somebody help PLEASE

[elder basin]

My avatar is REALLY simple just a defult robot avatar with suit on

I think when i download it it was called drip robot or somthin

[magic slate]

You used the same blueprint ID as the PC one for the Quest one, right?

[elder basin]

Uhhh. When i upload it????
I converted normally using the pc one

When i upload i just hit upload didnt do anything

Shall i upload it again and change it? Or i need plugin or something

[magic slate]

The Quest one and PC one need to use the same Blueprint ID so they become linked together, any good tutorial should explain this.

explained here too: https://creators.vrchat.com/platforms/android/cross-platform-setup#uploading-content

[elder basin]

W8 im gonna check 1min im lunching unity

[elder basin]

Yes they do

Both have same blue print