avatar-quest

[midnight birch]

do people hear sounds through toggles on quest if your on pc? or is it just people on pc that can hear

[random comet]

avatar audio is not available on Quest

[midnight birch]

dang

[royal hollow]

Anyone know of a female avi with a smart phone

[sand jolt]

Anyone know any cute free Chubby girl avatars?

[magic slate]

#1138520828556890214

[limpid prism]

How do I use this?

[magic slate]

make a post I guess? I've never done it

[dapper fractal]

how do i upload an avatar i bought to my quest ?

[torn moon]

are you familiar with pc uploads already?

its the same concept except you tick "android" in the upload menu instead of "windows"

but ofc youll need the android module beforehand of u dont have it already

[tired crypt]

hi I neep help so I was trying to add a Item for my avatar and some reason its invisible I don't know whats going on and vrcfury is not fixing it I don't know what to do heres a image on the object but its not there

[steady idol]

what is said "object"

what exactly do you expect vrcfury to do if the object iself isnt there

[dapper fractal]

i am not, this is my first purchase

[torn moon]

o

[torn moon]

https://youtu.be/T0Zu3PeLUWE?si=wh1NA5hQApvIXylw

[dapper fractal]

aaaaa tysm !!!!!

[versed parrot]

i think the problem is the face mesh thing but i got no idea

[proper notch]

holy unoptimized, but its definitely the face mesh. what does select take you to?

[versed parrot]

it just takes me to the avatar its self

[arctic slate]

go to lipsync (or view i cant remember) and drag the face (or body if they're merged) mesh into the slot

then choose the correct viesemes for each sound

[proper notch]

^^^^^ this; your main focus is the inspector tab

[versed parrot]

wheres that at

waitnvm

this is what it says

[arctic slate]

drag in whatever mesh is your face's (likely listed as head or body) from the left of your screen (close the armature dropdown here to find it quicker) into there

[versed parrot]

i dont see armature anywhere but i see it on the avi thing

[arctic slate]

you're not dragging the armature into that slot

choose the one listed as Body, its likely your face's mesh

[versed parrot]

ohhh aight

oh yeah i see it all

its letting me upload it now appreciate yall

its saying this now

[versed parrot]

It’s saying It failed to upload it

[versed parrot]

nvm guys i fixed it

[cedar blaze]

so how the hell do i make it so it shows up like the second image???? im trying to make this avatar quest compatible and i genuinely cant figure it out. this tutorial is recent too so i just dont know what to do

im very new to uploading so any help is appreciated 👍

nevermind i figured it out bruh im literally so smart im cracked at avatars

nevermind i did not figure it out bruh

[dapper fractal]

im uploading my purchased avi and i cant get past the step where i open the project after creating it in creator companion ?

it wont show up under the projects tab

even tho when i go to 'create new project' and click 'pick new folder' i can see the folder the project is under

did i do something wrong or miss a step ?

[young granite]

what does the error says?

[dapper fractal]

that's the thing it doesn't give me an error. it says "creating project" and when it's done loading it doesn't show up at all under my projects tab

[tulip plover]

based rindo

[solar venture]

after the new builder menu, how uploading to quest works?

I need to mark Windows + quest and upload, or I can only mark quest, make my quest version and upload with the same name?

i already have a windows version of the avi

[arctic slate]

as long as the model uses the same Blueprint ID in the pipline manager as the PC version it should just upload a quest varitation for it

[storm spade]

why is the Alpha Blended shader IN THE MOBILE SECTION not allowed??

[weak basin]

It's for worlds. The error message is the stupidest error message though

Additive and multiply work sometimes

Some cases, it will white out in game for many and specific secret reasons that vrchat changes with updates randomly

[weak basin]

Try adding an existing project (click the arrow on the create project button) and find the project in the files.

[autumn imp]

how can i get a vroi avatar into my vrc account through vcc and unity? i've been researching and none of what im seeing is helping and i need help

[magic slate]

vroid? there are quite a lot of tutorials on this

I'd suggest using the VRM importer plugin for Blender, then exporting from there as FBX into Unity. Then it's the same as any other model.

[autumn imp]

i've been doing that but everytime i try to download which ever vrm it's asking me, it just bring me to unity with the icon glowing yellow and i cant find it anymore unless im stupid and not looking hard enough lol, it's my first time ever doing this and it's already a pain 🥲

[magic slate]

I have no idea what that means, but feel free to share some screenshots or error messages

[glad portal]

Bro this update has been killing my work

People have been messaging me about why the flashlight for the MD avatar for quest don't work anymore :(

I think this update is actually killing my avatar

[glad portal]

Alright bro, fuck you

Uncalled for

[arctic slate]

constant complaining in here about it isnt gonna change anything. you're not gonna farm sympathy points here man, literally all you've done the past 2 days is whine that your bypass got patched

go make a canny post about it or sumn if you actually want a chance at it getting reverted (though its majorly unlikely)

[glad portal]

Why are all of you guys so damn mean

This is exactly why I hate the PC players of VRchat

[arctic slate]

not a PC player but go off

[glad portal]

The only people who seem to actually understand me are the quest users

Bro I don't care about your opinion, I'm just expressing my frustration

[arctic slate]

which isnt what this channel is meant for

[glad portal]

I know I ain't going to do anything reverting the change.

[young granite]

not about being mean but expressing it here won't get you anything

[glad portal]

Cool

I don't really care

I'm annoyed currently and have been getting nothing but constant disrespect from this community for over a year now

[arctic slate]

lmao, if you're not gonna follow the rules set by the discord and be pissy all the time nobody is gonna act friendly with you

not sure why that's hard 2 understand

[glad portal]

Broke this update is killing the only Avatar I was able to make successful

Of course I'm mad

[young granite]

But what this server members has to do with you being mad.

[glad portal]

I wasn't even arguing to you guys to begin with
And mentioning this to the actual developers will only give me the same outcome I had last time

[arctic slate]

theres nothing that people in this server can do to resolve you're issues though?? + id imagine the majority of users here arent fans of bypassing to being with.

again make a post at the canny, its gotten stuff reverted or changed in the past before its just a matter of others deeming it worth needing a change

[glad portal]

What even is the canny

[arctic slate]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/feature-requests

[glad portal]

I'll see

But I know this will be pointless

I'll just have to watch my avatar die off because of a small flashlight that used to work

[arctic slate]

used to work via a bypass, again breaking bypasses breaks the community guidelines be glad they dont generally issue bans over stuff like that

[glad portal]

Dude there was prefabs for this

[arctic slate]

that doesnt make it right???

yuck.

that site is full of pirated content man

[glad portal]

I try to avoid that stuff.

[arctic slate]

so because you found a prefab on a pirater/ripper site it should be okay to do? people whom use those sites generally have no morals or care for if other users experiences suffer

jeez...

also you should delete that screenshot

[glad portal]

So now you're calling me a bad person, that's cool

[arctic slate]

if you use stolen stuff and are trying to defend the usage of it? yeah you're a bad person

lmao

[glad portal]

I do not use stolen shit bro

Whenever I use the prefab I make my own flashlight model

Get it right >:(

[arctic slate]

okay then not a bad person but still a gross mindset, really doesnt change my suggestions or view of you :P

hope you get better man

[glad portal]

I'm just mad because I used the flashlight a lot for games like horror stuff.

This update basically halted ALL of my avatars

The ones I didn't even get a chance to finish can no longer be updated just to ensure the flashlight stays working

[reef prairie]

Is there not a way to make a flashlight that doesn't break bypasses?

[magic slate]

lights aren't allowed on quest avatars, so no, not possible.

[storm spade]

how do i make a togglable animation that loops? based on what im seeing in unity just setting the animation to loop doesnt work - it loops fine in the animation preview but when pressing play and using gesture manager it doesnt loop at all

[weak basin]

what is your fx setup for the toggle?

[storm spade]

in the unity animator or where?

[weak basin]

in animator yes. Where you made the toggle. On the avatar descriptor you can find the FX animator and click it, it will open it for you

[weak basin]

thats the animation window. Find the FX animator in the avatar descriptor and click the fx to open it in the animator (not animation) window

animator window looks like this

[storm spade]

oh right oops

(everything that leads offscreen is irrelevant)

[weak basin]

try making a new layer for the loop toggle. Make it look like the image I sent

[storm spade]

so like one that it goes into that has the actual effect and then drops back to a neutral position?

[weak basin]

yes.

the off state has no animation. The loop state just has the looping animation

the transitions check for the parameter to be true, and then for the parameter to be false respectively

[storm spade]

ok changed it to this - it still only plays the first frame of the animation and stops :P

[weak basin]

did you assign a parameter to the transitions (arrows between the boxes)

[storm spade]

no do i need to?

[magic slate]

what else is in this layer, if there's an AnyState situation going on here?

[storm spade]

its a bunch of other expressions that are all controlled by one 'emotion' parameter
(when emotion = 1 do emotion 1, when emotion = 2 do emotion 2 etc.)

[weak basin]

ok, so your loop is controlled by this emotion param?

[storm spade]

none of them should interfere with this because they cannot run multiple at once

[magic slate]

oh ok yeah, only one thing in this layer will be active at any given time.

[storm spade]

the loop starts when the param is set to 8 and it should continue until that value changes, but as is now the first frame of the animation plays when the param is set to 8 and it doesnt progress further (swaps out when the value changes)

[weak basin]

the problem with using anystate is that it doesn't give us the off state and on state set up. You might need a new layer to handle the loop specifically.

so like the true would be param = 8

and the false would be param =/= 8

[magic slate]

you don't have "can transition to self" checked on any of those anystate transitions, do you?

[storm spade]

where would i see that

[magic slate]

... on those anystate transitions

click one, look in the inspector

[storm spade]

ah i do

all of them i think

[magic slate]

you do not want this.

[storm spade]

thats why

its just resetting every frame, right?

[magic slate]

probably, yep

[weak basin]

ok that might fix it, let me know if it doesn

if it doesn't fix it, might need a seperate layer

[storm spade]

yeap that was it

time to go through and change all of my layers to disable that (why is it on by default 💀)

[storm spade]

yo why am i getting this error on reimporting my avi's model

that bone shouldnt affect the rig's overall layout

i cant enter play mode because gogo loco hates the fact that my model has a root for the physbones

ah wait got it

after i added a bone parented to the head containing the face, rather than just having all of the face parts be attached to the head bone, whenever i enter play mode they lock into place above where their intended position is, no matter where in the scene the face bone is - it can be really far away and no matter what they always snap to this one point and idk how to fix it

ah it was one of my default anims nvm

[arctic slate]

ooo i love seeing other reb00t userss

[storm spade]

[rose raft]

Hello, could someone help me upload an avatar on VRChat? (or if you know someone who can put avatars on VRChat ;-;)

[solid scroll]

There's plenty of videos on this

[arctic slate]

account sharing is an unsafe practice especially between random users, if you really cant upload a model yourself and its a purchased model contact its creator about it

[storm spade]

is there a way to make a billboarded object on your avatar for quest or does that require PC only shaders

[magic slate]

you can do it with particles

[steady idol]

Only particles can do that

[dapper fractal]

does someone have a link to a step by step on uploading an avatar i purchased to my quest ?

[magic slate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSwMz4WcajQ

[dapper fractal]

this says 2023, is it still up to date on the process ?

[magic slate]

pretty much. might not look exactly the same but close enough.

[dapper fractal]

alright sounds good !!!! tysm :3

[glad portal]

Bro I swear, I really hate when this happens..

So basically I was uploading an avatar, the physbone count was 71, normal but a little bit over the quest standard
I brought it down and uploaded it, the ears and stuff was stiff, so I decided to check the physbones

WHY DOES IT SAY 166

I'm like, genuinely so exhausted

I don't even know what I did wrong bro :(

[arctic slate]

are you adding anything with scripts like VRCFury during the upload?

[glad portal]

The only time I use VRC fury is when adding emotes and Google logo

Everything else is made by hand

I just really want help man

I genuinely feel like I'm the only person who always has this issue

[magic slate]

it gives you the numbers, count stuff.

at a guess, something got duplicated

[glad portal]

But the problem is that the numbers are not accurate

[magic slate]

did you count?

[glad portal]

I have to count every bone?

[magic slate]

you said they aren't accurate...

[glad portal]

That's because I know what is the correct amount..

There are two ears, both has 4 bones.
A tail, that has 7.
The chest tuff has one, there's 2, so that makes 2.

There's one object that has the same properties as the tuff, another object that has 8 bones + another set of armature which adds another 8

Another one which has 5 + another armature which adds an extra 5

We also have to include all the leaf bones

Adding that together left me with 52 overall physbones

[magic slate]

"another object" 🙂

but yeah, it seems to be counting 64, where are the rest?

[glad portal]

please, I just need help 😭

[glad portal]

There is no other "rest"

That's all I added to the character

[magic slate]

it's counting something though

[glad portal]

Before some reason it adds up to 71

[glad portal]

You know what I think I know what it's counting :3

[magic slate]

no

[glad portal]

Ghost components! :D

[magic slate]

uh huh.

sure.

[glad portal]

Listen
I made this project before, and every time I updated the character more and more physbones were added to it even though they didn't exist on the avatar.

I'm guessing the same thing is happening to this character, but way more severe than the first one.

[glad portal]

You think I'm lying?

Why would I lie about this bro

[magic slate]

I didn't say that at all

I don't believe there is such a thing as "ghost components" though.

[glad portal]

That's what the stupid AI thing said the first time I tried asking for help on this

[magic slate]

I've not yet met an "AI" thing that was worth talking to.

[glad portal]

I'm just clueless :(

This issue or whatever it is is genuinely aggravating

I've tried to research everything I could to find out what the issue is, and I think I'm the only person to ever have it

I'm guessing it's another one of those things

Then I just can't fix 😔

[misty roost]

@unreal holly Hello. I was wondering if I can get my hands on Area 51 Alien Model. I want to put it in my scene, so I decided to ask you directly.

[austere lodge]

When you export from blender. Make sure to uncheck ”add leafbones” it adds extra bones to the end of all bone chains

Oh wait you said you included them

Erm

Goodluck? Its probably some obvious thing that nobody remembers to check or look at

[glad portal]

I probably have to remake the fucking project again >:(

I swear, shit like this is the reason why I would quit making avatars bro

[unreal holly]

It’s a Unity Asset store character, you can find it here:

https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/characters/humanoids/sci-fi/alien-grey-28059

[plush narwhal]

is audio link just completely unusable on quest could i not make an animation clip and somehow link that to the audio link instead of using a shader like poiyomi, i just want to adjust the emission intensity on toon standard, is there any way i can make that happen or does audio link just not work at all on quest

[arctic slate]

pretty sure audiolink isnt possible on quest avatars currently

it can be done for worlds maybe and be kinda used with the little items things that vrchat added but thats about it

[flint forge]

No, that can't work.

Putting it really simply, audiolink only exists on the GPU (the chip doing the renderering), it is using one of very few ways to do any sort of communication between an avatar and a world, in this case the world makes a global texture available and any shader that knows to look for it can find and use it.

The logical, CPU, side has basically no idea any of this is going on and even if it did there is no uncompromising way to send data similarly.

It could work if the Quest shaders supported it, but they don't.
Audiolink is entirely a community made feature.

[stray fjord]

How do I add
A. Lights to my avatar
B. Sword slashing effects (I could
C. particle trail
model the slash or smth if needed I need help trying this in general )
(Even a answer to one will help)

[steady idol]

you cant have lights on quest

[stray fjord]

I’ve seen flashlights tho

[steady idol]

you cant have light sources on quest
any time you have seen it would be a bypass

[stray fjord]

Well how do I do that?

[magic slate]

you don't bypass.

[arctic slate]

all bypass methods got patch and update or two ago but even if there were still a working one nobody here would assist with setting it up

[misty roost]

Thank you man, You are a lifesaver

[steady idol]

You dont?
Like it should be a no brainer that you shouldnt bypass the restrictions
They are there for a reason

[storm spade]

the 'flashlights' you've seen are more likely just cones with translucent white textures that make objects behind them appear brighter, though they dont function as actual light sources, just white filters

[flint forge]

Unlikely, it was entirely possible to put full on lights on Quest avatars without a modded sdk, but the server-side checks now detect them.

[celest turret]

that was a thing? sounds cool, until you realize it would fuck over the quest players

[weak basin]

If I made a Canny post for a quest feature request, am I allowed to post it here, like to advertise?

I think it would be cool if vrchat made a VRCAudio Component that was more optimised for vrchat so that it could be quest compatible

[magic slate]

#feature-requests possibly

but you probably won't see audio on quest

[celest turret]

probably for a while sadly

[tough swallow]

Hello

[nocturne sinew]

Oh is THAT what leaf bones are

[austere lodge]

ya!

[nocturne sinew]

I’ve always been told to turn them off without knowing what they are

[austere lodge]

they can be usefull to leave on sometimes. depends on the situation

[nocturne sinew]

Do they even register when you set humanoid

[austere lodge]

They appear in unity. But arent weightpainted to anything

But usefull for physbones…. Since a physbone usualy NEEDS an end bone. A leafbone and an end bone is the same thing

If you put a physbone on a single bone it wont move. But if you put it on a bone with a leaf bone. It will move

[nocturne sinew]

I’ve always just set my physbones end manually with the component

[austere lodge]

Im too lazy for that XD

but that also works

Probably better to do that for quest but overall. It does the same thing

[nocturne sinew]

I don’t use physbones very often so it’s never been an issue

[austere lodge]

I rely on them too much XD

[nocturne sinew]

Ok i had a question idk if you’d know the answer or not

I see a lot of avatars with absurd amounts of bones but not many physbones why is that

Like where exactly are the bones on the avatar

[austere lodge]

cause people suck at making avatars

[nocturne sinew]

Oh lol

[austere lodge]

duplicates of the whole armature from multiple outfits for some reason.

[nocturne sinew]

Ohhhhhh

Yeah that adds up

[austere lodge]

as said: people suck at making avatars

[nocturne sinew]

I over optimize the shit out of my avatars

One thing though the quest ratings system pmo

How is 20001 tris very poor when every other stat is excellent

[austere lodge]

i try to, but sometimes im lazy and my avatars end up poor rated instead of good or medium

[austere lodge]

cause the quest is a shitty phone strapped to your head. weak hardware cant render as much

whenever i make my stuff quest compatible i do it overkill... i just remesh my whole PC avatar and bake the textures onto that XD

[nocturne sinew]

What i meant is that the ratings system should be points based or something

One stat going over the limit tanking the rating is so stupid

• like 80% of the “quest compatible” avatars have 300k tris, 100 materials, and 50 skinned meshes

[stoic iris]

How would I go abt rigging this?

well the bottom half

i should say

would that be entering more custom rig and not humoid rigs?

[random comet]

It'll still need to be "humanoid" to Unity if you want the arms to move and have an IK, you could simply have the entire lower half rigged to the hip

[magic slate]

hard to say without seeing the actual armature

ooh scrolling down to present is good, don't forget to do it

[austere lodge]

Id do it on a third leg that you later add rotation constraint to follow both real legs

[dim cove]

that might look cursed tho 😅

[stoic iris]

Sigh... it doesnt matter anyways, the whole model was one object 💔

Id have to take it from the actual game if I really want the model

[magic slate]

nothin' wrong with it all being one object

[sour pollen]

heyo! so i'm extremely new to making avatars and im trying to make one for myself but i keep running into the same issue of not being able to upload to android, can anyone help?

[magic slate]

provide detail - error message or something

[sour pollen]

i just cant select android when trying to change the build

[magic slate]

#avatar-help message

[pastel storm]

she is so cute skfgjhsdkgjhdkjghd

had a brilliant idea

[queen axle]

Yall I just got my butt beat by a black panther man iqt

[pastel storm]

I realized on Quest the blush for my avatar is INSANE, but I don't know how to delete it or where to even find it my hierarchy.

[dusky oar]

can someone help me fix this error please

[weak basin]

It's usually attached to the body or face mesh. Go find the facial expression animations and edit them. Remove the shapekeys for the blush and it should not come out

[weak basin]

Says it's mipmaps, it wants you to enable mipmap streaming

Usually there is an auto fix option at the top of validations

[strange patio]

where do I go to fix this because I was converting my avatar to quest and it was at 10.01mb and when I lower one last texture it hit me with this?

[opaque estuary]

is it still possible to upload for ios/fallback?

[magic slate]

it may not be textures - might be blendshapes, or meshes

[burnt mural]

https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/MLMbx9xSd2dpbp7/preview

Looks like you tried uploading an avatar that you do now own. Make sure you are logged in to the right account, and create a new avatar / blueprint id or copy one from the avatar if you already uploaded it

[rancid ruin]

Is this that weird vrc server? In here

I dont see myself asking for a avatar

I knew they cost money

That y i never asked.

Anyone to make me one

[pastel storm]

I have no idea what that means 😭

[weak basin]

Click on your avatar, find the vrchat descriptor and find playable layers in inspector. Then click FX. The first couple of layers will be your facial expression layers. Click on one, and see the boxes for point, open, peace, etc.

Then click the animation in the inspector and you can delete any blend shape in the animation that says 'blush' or something like that. Do that for all the facial animations.

[grizzled tapir]

can someone help? when i upload an avater the vrc pov is a little above their head. and the toggles dont show up

[burnt mural]

Make sure your view point is set correctly.
I suggest setting it between the head, slightly sticking out of it.
That way, if you look down in vr, you won't look inside your body.

If your toggles are missing, also make sure you set the fx layer and stuff

Both can be found in the avatar descriptor

[grizzled tapir]

I fixed that, but now when I move her head, only her head moves and not her POV/sight

[burnt mural]

Wtf xd

[grizzled tapir]

And all her toggles are on at once, took so long to take all her hairs off to get to her eyes XD

[burnt mural]

What did you do lmao

[grizzled tapir]

I'm not sure Im afraid its something I didn't do but also Idk. Shes my first upload

[pure fiber]

what tutorial is followed?

[grizzled tapir]

https://youtu.be/rZuAuNGwJu8?si=d_-WjBOruzPgFs7J

[pure fiber]

vive making vrchat tutorial, wtf

[grizzled tapir]

[stoic iris]

unity is somehow saying this is not a humanoid rig even tho ive uploaded avatars with rigs that look EXACTLY like this before

it said smth abt having to rename a object so I did and its STILL complaining abt the object ALREADY renamed

So my way of fixing it is Enforce T-Pose so I do that

and it DOESNT SAVE even after hitting apply

so everytime i try to fix it Unity RESETS itselrf

I have No idea why its causing so many problems now when ive been doing this exact process for abt 4 days now

[random comet]

That leads me to believe you have import messages on your rig, check this area and show what the error is

[stoic iris]

it only talks abt this

and i renamed that head object

and for some reaosn its still complaining abt it even tho its gone already

[random comet]

you look to have multiple head objects, you need to fix this in blender and overwrite the FBX, this can't be fixed within Unity

[stoic iris]

I just rerigged the whole avatar for the 3rd time and its still complaining abt the same things that dont exist

I dont get it

i use this Same rig for EVERYTHING

why is this model in particual causing problems

I use the same rig cus ik it WORKS

Okay well i re-rigged it and now its complaining abt smth else

[magic slate]

Shoulders look a little weird, but given that model, that's probably fine. We'd have to see the hierarchy to provide more detail - seems like you have duplicated stuff on that avatar.

not sure why you have a Left Leg under Right Toe - might want to investigate that

[random comet]

yeah the rig looks all sorts of messed up

[stoic iris]

this is what I always do

its how i rig r6 roblox avatars and they never have a problem

EXCEPT this one

[random comet]

whar

[magic slate]

you always put a Right Leg under your left Toe? interesting

Why?

[stoic iris]

I dont personally assign stuff i like unity do that and I fix the red

And then it works

[magic slate]

it's not about assigning things

The error message clearly says you can't have other objects the same name as a humanoid bone, and here it strongly suggests that's an error, so again, I ask what is that bone doing there?

[stoic iris]

heres one that works that uses the same rig structure

[stoic iris]

I dunno ig thats just where it put it

[magic slate]

no, that's not the same, those bones are differently named

you don't know what that bone is?

huh.

okay.

[stoic iris]

i barely know anything abt rigging all ik is that what i was doing was working

[magic slate]

again, it's not the same as your "working" one even if we ignore what that bone might be

I'd suggest not having stray bones that don't do anything though.

[stoic iris]

does this mean i have to rerig it again

[magic slate]

not from scratch, I'd just go see what that weird bone is, and if it doesn't do anything, delete it

[stoic iris]

i wouldnt know what that bone is its a pretty simple rig

[magic slate]

it's not shown there for some reason, but it was shown in your unity hierarchy

this image looks reasonable, but doesn't match what you showed in Unity, so.....

[random comet]

is there bones being hidden?

go into edit mode on the armature, and press alt + h

[stoic iris]

no everything here is what gets ported into unity

[magic slate]

Based on images you have shown, I think that is not true

[stoic iris]

ill try rq

i revealed hidden and it didnt do anything

every bone there is the same on unity

or ig apparently not

cus ig new bones spawn in now

[magic slate]

look in the hierarchy, not the 3D view

make sure if you use bone collections, they are all visible

(I use them a LOT)

[stoic iris]

seems to be the same

[magic slate]

open up left foot to be sure

but yeah, seems right.

did you do some weird merging in unity? Try dragging a new copy of your .fbx into the scene and see what that looks like

[stoic iris]

okay well all the bones from the unity project has moved into the blender project so i literally have NO idea where these extra bones come from

[magic slate]

not sure how bones from unity move into blender?

[stoic iris]

well ig i shouldve said that i have no idea where the .fbx got all the extra bones from

[magic slate]

... so are they in blender or just unity?

[stoic iris]

well what i can tell is that when i make the rig and export it as a .FBX for some reason the rig gets super complicated and by time it gets into unity and that stupid mess

so its neither blender or unity its the .fbx

id assume

[magic slate]

I'm definitely not sure what would randomly add a leg bone below your foot bone

[stoic iris]

Im just gonna grab the rig of the model that worked and see if i can force it to work

cus if the rig of my other model worked then maybe im just using an outdated template or smth

Im gonna do it this time

same rig

different results

how

did unity have like a update?????

or smth that breaks ALL of my rigs??

[random comet]

Unity doesn't update by itself, you keep the exact editor you install

[stoic iris]

i dont understand

same rig one just feels like working and the other doesnt

[median prism]

Standard lite is washing out my textures for some reason?

[magic slate]

can you show the shader settings?

[median prism]

One moment

[median prism]

tada

[hexed knot]

Anyone knows how to add seats to my avi on quest?

[flint forge]

You add the vrc_station component, you can't add and edit a collider like you do on PC, but a station missing a collider will create a collider on its own so it will still work.

Only way to turn it off and on that I am aware of on Quest is to move the entire station really far away, might be some other way.

[hexed knot]

Oh I see so if I add it for quest I can't turn them off.

Thank you I'll try that!

[odd maple]

i'm making a Quest version of my avatar, how can i make this material transparent/invisible ?

[magic slate]

You can't use alpha transparency on quest, ideally delete the mesh you want to be transparent.

[astral ruin]

Just mess around with the metalic and smoothness. For warhammer avatars i see 0.7 and 0.8

[median prism]

Is star wars and I made the textures myself so

im not sure what triggered it

[astral ruin]

I can tell dwwwww

But yea id say mess around with the smoothness

I also substance my own textures

[median prism]

I was it didnt fix anything like it seems like the occlusion got busted?

[astral ruin]

Ussually if i see that i just mess around with the smoothness

[astral ruin]

Guh

Weird

Put in your secind normal map

See if that fixes it

[median prism]

maybe change it to a specular map output

instead of unity mettalic

[median prism]

I only made one

odd

[astral ruin]

No you only use one

Put your normal map here

I js noticed it

Idk if like

Itll fix it

But it ussually does for me

[median prism]

noted...

[astral ruin]

Mb queen am i being to gay 💔

[median prism]

o no is ok

[astral ruin]

Qrong pic

Mb

[median prism]

LMAO

[astral ruin]

Oop

LOSER

Oh

I laugh

[median prism]

https://tenor.com/view/makin-smth-with-this-trust-w-gif-gif-5790956484979011289

[astral ruin]

Nooooo

[median prism]

when I get home (on campus rn) ill mess with it

[astral ruin]

Okiiii

[honest coral]

Question
What do i do if i get stuck in a crasher avatar that crashes my headsrt whenever i try loading in to vrchat, and I cant sign in to the website and swotch it that way because when I merged accounts a few years aho, it merged the wrong way and now my meta account has the otger vrchat account name, oh and also yes I did try uninstalling and reinstalling, and bo i dont know where to find the clear cache button outside of vrchat in the new update

Please help, i couldnt find the support channel

[random comet]

hold Y and B on your controllers whilst loading into the game until you notice you get past the time you usually crash and are in a robot avatar

[honest coral]

Ill try that

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-optimus-prime-i-am-in-your-debt-i-owe-you-my-debt-debt-gif-1858470443853153421

Thank you, kind stranger

[median prism]

improved the normals quality sure but textures are still washed

fixed!

"specular light probe hack"

[austere matrix]

Is there a quest compat shader to remove the black

I wish alpha blended was quest compatible

It should be

Theres no reason not to

Quest CAN handle it

[arctic slate]

if it something that requires transparency then just take the mesh to blender and use the knife tool to cutout the mesh around the texture

[flint forge]

Yeah it can do it, but not well, the hardware literally doesn't handle transparency as well as PC hardware.

[abstract plume]

I have a avatar i bought but it doesnt have a quest ver. so being a noob with unity I converted all the stuff except all the outfit and hair is ON but not visible from hierachy or any toggle to turn them off, what can I do to turn off some items?

[austere forge]

The outfit and hair are likely merged into one mesh or hidden under blendshapes check the Skinned Mesh Renderer or separate them in Blender to toggle them.

[abstract plume]

what is skinned mesh renderer?

[magic slate]

the component on your mesh object that renders it, if it's "skinned", or weighted to move with an armature

[abstract plume]

this one?

so theres no solution without blender 🙃

[abstract plume]

wth XD

[magic slate]

did you just export from blender into unity? did you not set "apply scalings" to "FBX All" in Blender's export dialog?

[abstract plume]

i did not

[magic slate]

probably you want to do that.

[abstract plume]

now the model is invisible ... i wanna die

[primal bramble]

You need a raise, you've been here for too long helping people out

[magic slate]

I support this idea

[hexed knot]

Hey
I tried it out and it didn't work 😕

Nvm! It did but i can't sit in them

[magic slate]

remember that you can't sit in your own stations

[storm spade]

does anyone know why alpha multiply isnt allowed on quest avis if it is on worlds? is it particularily taxing on the GPU or something hence its ban? i feel like out of any material it would be the most worth to add in out of any disabled shaders

[magic slate]

yep, Alpha transparency is heavy on the GPU

[flint forge]

Worlds are, ideally, a curated experience where a skilled world creator knows to not stack transparency, but with avatars it is uncontrolled and you don't know the situation beforehand, could be no transparency one second and tens of transparent materials the next.

And mobile GPUs, like the Quest GPUs, were optimized for mobile workloads in such a way that it also just straight up doesn't handle transparency well compared to PC hardware.

[elfin elm]

VRChat/Mobile/Particles/Multiply with no texture should do it

[river root]

i need help with the blueprint id because when i go to content manager in the verchat sdk it doesnt show the avatar and the copy id thing to copy the blueprint id

@fluid kiln could you help?

[odd maple]

i used blendshapes to remove it

[bright sky]

is additive particle shader the only way to get transparency on quest?

[elfin elm]

I think so

You can also use multiply though

Downside is you cant shade them or add matcaps and reflections

[bright sky]

yeah, hmmm

im comfused on the multiply thing

additive is way too bright, multiply is way to dark, thats fun

im making an avatar for a friend and he has this fluffy tail thing, and i decided to just do it with a couple of planes and a transparent texture, alpha blended could look perfect for it but of course that doesnt work :V

[flint forge]

Either SDK is broken or you aren't logged into the correct account, I am leaning towards latter.

[silk herald]

Tf happened to particle lighting

[flint forge]

You mean using particle systems to hide lights from the metrics?

[river root]

I got it

[steady idol]

you mean something that wasnt meant to exist?

[worldly spoke]

I noticed that too before, looks like something messed with the lighting settings or shaders. Did it break after an update?

[steady idol]

adding lights via particles to quest avatars wasnt an intended feature

[silk herald]

But it was a smart and optimized way to do avatar lighting on quest

[magic slate]

Optimized when not on, sure.

[steady idol]

that is VERY incorrect

particle lights are still lights

they are in fact even less optimized than a regular light component

[silk herald]

Well the way friend did it on their avatars it worked pretty well

[steady idol]

it was entirely unintended as lights arent allowed on quest AT ALL

you doing the particle thing was exploiting a bug

lights are very performance heavy even for pc

[magic slate]

yeah I imagine that being really disruptive on a Quest except in the most ideal conditions

[silk herald]

For me it never lagged me

[steady idol]

easily causes crashing

[silk herald]

Unless it was like a crasher than yeah ofc but like

[steady idol]

good for you?
you arent the ENTIRE platform

particle lights were never allowed and it was inevitable that it was going to be patched

[silk herald]

Hm it would be awesome to have a avatar lighting system on quest though

[steady idol]

the quest is literally mobile hardware strapped to your face
if its causing issues on pc
then it sure as hell will on quest

[steady idol]

yea no
realtime lighting is AWFUL in every regard
even for worlds

there is no possible way for it to be optimized enough to be allowed

[silk herald]

Then why not a baked lighting system for avatars?

It's practically just a texture overlayed on top of another

[steady idol]

do you not know what baking lighting is?

like yknow? baked? not moving?

baked lighting cant just be freely moved

thats not how it works

[silk herald]

I don't mean like LITTERAL baked lighting

I mean something equivalent to it

Like say you have the lights set up in unity

And it bakes the lighting to the texture itself and makes it have emission so it glows

I mean one of my friends basically did that with their avatar and it works perfectly fine

[steady idol]

thats not how that works

[magic slate]

None of this works on avatars because they're entirely dynamic

[steady idol]

avatars are in fact not static

[magic slate]

In a world you can have emission light other surfaces because you're baking the lighting

[steady idol]

baking time at best takes several minutes

you also cant just expect it to behave like realtime

[steady idol]

it glowing is realtime with extra steps

[astral ruin]

Gonna shove this thing on quest, what we thinking about my beautiful old prince?

[pastel storm]

I'm making a png avatar for my friend, is there any way to remove the black background for quest or do I have to make a new mesh, if so, how?

[steady idol]

Quest cant have transparency

[versed notch]

i feel it too i have a low poly butterfly that has 2d plane wings now i have to make the wings high poly for the block pixelated wings

we cant make optimized a thing. we can add pets stickers (stickers use what i would assume cutout/transparency shader) and emojis same goes for it like come on vrchat saying we need to optimize look at what your doing

[steady idol]

Transparency can run on quest
But its like driving in first gear on the highway
Its incredibly slow to process
So its used sparingly and in complete control of the devs

[honest coral]

Yall be careful of the avatar Ghoul Whisker by CementoO
Its one of thosr avis that crash you when you try loading it

[arctic slate]

rather then putting the model name here report it properly at https://vrch.at/support

putting the name here just provides malicious users with another avatar to harass others in

[floral mulch]

might aswell just go in blender and use the knife tool to cut out the blacks in the image

[honest coral]

Sweet ive been tryna find the repirt thing for a while, im kinda dumb so its hard for me to find stuff

[austere matrix]

Seems like it always ran fine before

Quest can process it in quantities

Obviously large groups with 15 transparent materials would be laggy and crashy lol

In a small controlled group, it runs just fine tho

Im still extremely salty that Quest gets functions removed just because "it cant handle it" as if its like some old blackberry or something

[steady idol]

My guy
The hardware literally doesnt have what it needs to process it

[austere matrix]

Whats needed to process it?

[steady idol]

The chip used cant handle transparency properly

[austere matrix]

The CPU chip?

[steady idol]

Not sure which chip but they stated that its one of the reasons

[austere matrix]

It uses a snapdragon XR2

[blazing shoal]

the quest gpu can obviously do transparency, but it is very taxing

[austere matrix]

I know it cant be limited to a "number of transparent materials" thing. but why cant there be some replacement?

I just want something for hair

Its awful in its natural state

[steady idol]

Replace it with what exactly?

Its either opaque or its not

[austere matrix]

There has to be some form of thing able to be utilized

Or just let us use alpha blended overall

Additive and multiply work too

[steady idol]

Alpha blender is transparency

Multiple and additive are less taxing than alpha

[austere matrix]

Couldnt something similar to additive be used then?

[steady idol]

If there was an option they wouldve given it to you by now

[blazing shoal]

i mean there is the particle additive shader, im pretty sure that's allowed for quest uploads

[steady idol]

Its less taxing than alpha

And meant for particles

[austere matrix]

It is, but what if there was a shader that was additive but less bright so it looks like proper transparency

Even if its still noticable

[steady idol]

Like the devs are actively always looking for alternatives

[steady idol]

Thats not how additive works

Its the texture added to whats behind it

[pastel storm]

How <\3

[coral ruin]

using the quest Particle Additive and Particle Multiply shaders, i figured out how to make transparency on quest

[coral ruin]

lookatda the message above, and see if it helps

put da multiply layer a lil behind too

and prolly set the multiply layers render queue -1 from the additives render queue

[pastel storm]

thanks man its slightly transparent but it works 🥹

[coral ruin]

i havent tested if it works in-game on quest though, so hope it actually looks how it does in unity

[arctic slate]

asking for commissions here is just gonna get you scammer/bot DMs, you're better off going to somewhere like VRCTraders (link in #1204490664637890580 ) and seeing if you can find a verified commissioner that'll do touch-ups like that

[vale scaffold]

tysm! I deleted my msg because I am starting to get bots 😭

[burnt mural]

My parameters don't seem to sync like they should from pc to quest and the other way around

https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/iXrmCyzwaiwEe6o/download/Awooo_Uk2dD.mp4

https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/t6aYWZAQermwQ6p/download/compressed.mp4

I am using vrcfury, the align is set

https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/CGm4gbnwZKQ3jnw/preview

https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/NC2HmGGJr33eHxQ/preview

-# Warmers enabled on quest

[west torrent]

so i uploaded the avi, on pc its fully colored and stuff but on quest its bright neon pink

[arctic slate]

bright pink usually means broken/missing shader

[west torrent]

how can i fix that? im very new

[magic slate]

depends on what's wrong - could be simply installing the package for the shader which the avatar creator specified.

if not that you'd have to look at the problem material in the inspector

oh, you posted this in two places

[long ivy]

how do i clothes swap?

[steady idol]

Thats incredibly vague and open ended

[young tusk]

how do I do that transparent parts work with a quest shader ?

[steady idol]

Quest doesnt support transparency

[novel jacinth]

I wonder why no one made this avatar version of Kerfus?

[dapper fractal]

i keep getting the 'build failed' message whenever i try to priv upload this avatar i bought, an ive never uploaded an avi before so i have no idea what these mean and how to fix them. anyone got some pointers ?

[coral ruin]

can you use Win + Shift + S please so its easier to read the text

[exotic dawn]

I heard people using bloodborne. It’s very possible since I see avatars that people make that has transparency for quest

[magic slate]

That's a hacked SDK and disallowed, so we shouldn't be recommending it.
Also that won't work, since I believe uploaded quest shaders are replaced server side now

[magic slate]

one of those errors is "missing script" - install whatever prerequisite you are missing. notice the error shows the name of the game object it's on, that should be a clue.

[dapper fractal]

thank you muchly !

[flint forge]

You can use the additive and multiply particle shaders, it isn't good looking transparency but it is still transparency.

[steady idol]

Thats a modified sdk
Its banned entirely
Every single time that dip shit sdk tries to bypass vrchat just fixes the bypasses causing people to go crying here about it
Dont try to bypass as it just leads to it getting fixed or at worst you banned for modifying

[teal rivet]

I've gotten this far

This is MISERY my 1st ever avi

i spent like an hour jst figuring out how to download the android thing alone

I have crazy respect for ya'll now though

[teal rivet]

I gave up im gonna find someone to pay 8 hours later fuh dah

[steady idol]

You need to upload
Not build and test

[teal rivet]

Woops no all caps.. wait thats it!?!?

All these hours.. it was in a single button click

Thank you so much

[steady idol]

You cant build and test android

[teal rivet]

Ohh that actually makes alot of sense but I never would've guessed

Ohhh thats why theres so many rough copies of quest avatars from the same author 🤔

[steady idol]

Well no

Build and test are locally built for testing only

Like only you can see the avatar

You cant build and test for android because of that

[shrewd flame]

hello guys. I’m tryna find mostly Eboy avatars without having to pay solo on quest. without converting. in prismic what do I need to search or worlds to find eboy? (a lot of accessories also)

[steady idol]

#1138520828556890214

[elfin elm]

Any of y'all know why when I switch my project to android, all reflective materials have a cyan tint?

[austere forge]

That cyan tint usually means your reflection captures or skylight aren’t set up right on Android mobile shaders handle reflections differently. Try updating reflection captures, disabling mobile HDR, or checking your reflection texture format.

[elfin elm]

Can you explain that to me like I'm a 5 year old child

Sorry I'm not too familiar with all of this lol

[austere forge]

so like when you switch to android the game forgets what the world around them looks like so instead of real reflections, it fills the mirror with a cyan color.
To fix it, you just have to remind the game what to reflect by
Turning on HDR (so it can see colors better), and Re making the reflection captures (so it knows what the world looks like again).

Then your shiny things will stop being cyan color

[austere forge]

This is the simpliest I can explain

[full crystal]

How do you fix this

[full crystal]

Anyone????????

[smoky wagon]

so everytime i upload for quest when my pc sides are done, it always says "window security checks failed" how do i fix that?
i remember i clicked something in unity hub that made it work. but i dont remember how i did it. can someone help me?

[craggy wing]

my avatar lit chat

[brittle plume]

after deleting the psybones like it asked (and converting the materials liltoon) it gives me this

[plush narwhal]

just seeing this now but actually crushing, i just had to link it to voice activation instead 😔

thank u for explaining though i appreciate the understanding

[arctic slate]

bit late but they likely just inverted the normals so you see the inside but not the outside of the mesh, it'd atleast give the same effect as they've got here if that isnt their actual method

i did something similar awhile back for a quest model to give it aquarium legs: #avatar-general message and other then it being a bit weird when bending in certain positions (like where joints meet when they bend) its a pretty solid effect

[exotic dawn]

I only recommend it since I thought it was fine. Since there’s a couple of avatar creators who use it

Didn’t know it was bad

[arctic slate]

sadly theres a large majority of model creators/commissioners who use it and actively promote it to customers since they dont care about the rules or making their content optimized within the limits

t'was one of the reasons i got into making fully personalized content

[tribal harness]

So i got a prefab called sync dances for my avatar. on pc the emotes work fine but when I try it on quest none of the emotes work at all

I've tried using the quest version of the prefab but it still didn't do anything

maybe i did something wrong?

[dim cove]

what does sync dances even do?
also make sure the quest version has all the parameters in the same order, otherwise it will not work

[tribal harness]

It's just a bunch of emotes. Where can I find the parameters?

[dim cove]

uuuuuuhhhhhh
i hate to be that person but
there should be tutorials for it online

[tribal harness]

Yeah

I know

Just nvm then ig

[knotty junco]

i need help with vrcfury when i make a world drop the object (at least in unity in play mod) is always showing

[magic slate]

toggle the item off via animation

[knotty junco]

where can i do it

[magic slate]

make a toggle which turns the game object on or off. There are lots of tutorials on how to do this.
I don't use VRC Fury so I can't comment on how to do it with that.

[steady idol]

is there a reason you are even using fury for it

[knotty junco]

this is the first time i make a avatar vrcfury looks simple

[steady idol]

you definitely shouldnt use vrcfury if you dont know what you are doing

its significantly better to learn how to actually do it

[knotty junco]

i would have to learn how to code i dont really know where to start

[magic slate]

Nope, there's no coding on avatars.

[steady idol]

there is no coding at all with avatars

[knotty junco]

oh...

[steady idol]

its entirely just animations

[magic slate]

you can write code for worlds, but you can also use a node-based flowchart system instead.

[knotty junco]

i fix it but when i enter play mode the object turns purple

[steady idol]

missing shader

or broken shader

[knotty junco]

you where right fixed it thank you

[magic slate]

Please don't ping me specifically for new questions, anyone can answer you.

[knotty junco]

sorry

i just added gogoloco and i noticed that on the legs the pants are like this

[steady idol]

thatd be a blender thing

where exactly did you get this model?

[knotty junco]

i got the base model on i site i tink it was gumroad this was the only free one i found and then i got the pants and shirt from a chell model i found on sketchfab

[steady idol]

thats definitely a blender thing

[magic slate]

yeah, bad weight painting

[knotty junco]

how can i fix that

[magic slate]

weight paint it better, of course.

[knotty junco]

ok i wil try

https://tenor.com/view/kassypoo-gif-23947209

hi!!!

[knotty junco]

i have to make weight more right??

[magic slate]

it's really hard to give you specific suggestions without having the project in blender in front of me. My best suggestion is that you want to weight paint it so it moves how you want it to move.

[knotty junco]

if you want and i dont disturb you of course i can send the blender file to you

[steady idol]

learn weight painting

[knotty junco]

ok🥹

[magic slate]

Sorry, I'm not taking commissions at the moment.

[knotty junco]

should it be like this??

[magic slate]

does it move properly?

[knotty junco]

how do i move the single bones ?? i dont remember

[magic slate]

ctrl+shift right click a bone to select it while in weight paint mode. Then you can rotate it, but shouldn't try moving them.

[knotty junco]

i found out how to do it but even if i make it weight as little as possible i still have the same problem

[magic slate]

I really suggest a tutorial on weight painting, there's nothing I can tell you from here

well one more thing: weights are relative, and without normalization the color is misleading. So something weighted at .8 to one bone must be weighted at .2 to some other bone, or that .8 is automatically 1

Probably those parts that are wonky are weighted too much to some other bone instead of the leg bone.

[knotty junco]

i think i found the problem but i can paint on the top of those long ones

[median lantern]

I hate that this is still happening AAAAAAA

[sonic canopy]

ik theres no way quest can have transparency. but is there at least any chance quest can have sps?

[dim cove]

🤨

[silent siren]

The point of allowing you to upload even if you have too many components is because an avatar post-processor (e.g. VRCFury or Modular Avatar) may remove some of those components.

[austere forge]

no it's not quest has really strict shaders limitation

[silent siren]

similarly, you can try to upload even if your current parameter list has too many synced params in it

[robust whale]

Couldn't they stop it while building?

[silent siren]

ah, yeah, now that i'm thinking about it: if you have too many parameters after the postprocessing, it throws an error and stops

i was conflating two things here:

• letting you try to build the avatar
• silently removing components if the result still isn't acceptable

[median lantern]

but that's not the case here because VRCFury doesn't even have anything physics bones related

[median lantern]

literally I fucking WISH it could already

(again the transparency in particular)

tho I think I found a workaround for it (why do we always have to keep finding so many workarounds? AAAAA)

[silent siren]

I have a package I wrote that adds physbones, so the number could go up or down 😉

[silent siren]

You can't use that shader on an avatar. It won't work when you upload it.

[median lantern]

except it does allow me to upload it tho without error?

aka, no build/upload fail

because the question there was about transparent lenses for glasses

[magic slate]

doesn't matter - quest at runtime will not use shaders in your avatar package, it uses server-provided shaders.

[silent siren]

confusingly, the Quest Content Limitations page says you can use the Multiply shader, but it also says it should be used on particle systems

[median lantern]

https://old.reddit.com/r/VRchat/comments/vplews/transparent_glasses_on_quest_how/ I discovered it from this post when trying to look it up

[arctic slate]

translucent =/= transparent but its likely that on-upload it'll change the shader so its not see-through, especially since that post is 3yrs old if it isnt giving warnings/errors when attempting

[blazing shoal]

i'm pretty sure the multiply shader works fine on quest

[elfin elm]

There’s no iOS channel here so I’m just gonna ask about it here, I tried adding an iOS version to one of my avatars and it says security checks failed. How do I fix this?

There was nothing that said it wouldn’t work on iOS in the sdk

[arctic slate]

are you adding stuff on upload via something like VRCFury? or are any of the stats too far past the limits?

[elfin elm]

Yeah I'm using vrcfury, it doesnt reference anything that isnt on the root avatar object though so it should show up in the sdk

only warnings i get are performance which i dont care too much about as its a personal avatar

[arctic slate]

if the VRCFury stuff hasnt already been added it wont add to the stats listed in the upload panel

[elfin elm]

all i have vrcfury doing though is toggles and armature link and the android version worked to an extent before i added the ios one

[arctic slate]

well i cant speak for how the armature link works since ive never used it but are any of the toggles external prefabs you're trying to add to the model?

[elfin elm]

all armature link does is automate dragging all the bones for addons like clothes onto the main armature, and none of the toggles reference external objects, everything is on the base gameobject

ok so gogoloco was whats breaking it i guess, i forgot it has a full controller module on it

tried uploading without it and boom worked just fine

that... really sucks. gogoloco is super useful

ok so tried uploading again and it suddenly works

ok then

[final jewel]

I heard you can put out lines for quest is that true?

[steady idol]

you could always do that? you just need to make the outline in blender

[hazy aspen]

Excuse me what??

[steady idol]

alpha blended is a world shader

[hazy aspen]

well what shader do i use for avatar transparency

[steady idol]

quest doesnt support transparency

[sullen heath]

i know this is from yesterday but it works perfectly fine. this is the quest side for 3 of my avis that use the shader, i used it for full transparency on the Uruki as well, she has an "eyeshadow" material that needs to be transparent or else it looks fucky

[hazy aspen]

well why the hell are people telling me to use a particle shader for quest transparency

[steady idol]

you only got additive and multiply which are not alpha based

[hazy aspen]

how do i make vroid avatars work on quest then

[steady idol]

cut the parts that need to be transparent in blender

[sullen heath]

i did transparency on my most recent avi quest side just fine

[hazy aspen]

i don't have that level of skill

[steady idol]

additive and multiply are the only allowed shaders

[hazy aspen]

ehh, multiply looks alright

[sullen heath]

yeah i used multiply then just put a blank transparent square as the texture for the eyes on my uruki, you can see in the pic above, if she didnt have it the upper part of the eyes would be covered by white

or i mean, in the "eyeshadow" material it already had

[hazy aspen]

this is multiply

[steady idol]

making it not render is not the same as using transparency

[sullen heath]

cant even tell where you're trying to put it and thats probably a good thing since its supposed to be transparent anyway

[steady idol]

also an unintended use of particle shaders

[sullen heath]

to most people whatever the difference is doesnt matter probably

[hazy aspen]

typical vroid optimization

[sullen heath]

ouch

[dim cove]

O.O

[sullen heath]

vrcquesttools is nice to help remove physbones btw, i usually just keep whatever i think is the bare minimum to balance looking nice and actually running somewhat well on the platform

[hazy aspen]

I need someone to teach me avatar stuff.
I don't know how to do any of ts

[sullen heath]

ive learnt everything i know so far from the past year from youtube lmao

that and some questions here about the really hard stuff

[hazy aspen]

i tried yt tutorials, they never help me

[sullen heath]

well, im sorry but gotta figure out how to do it yourself anyway cuz there aint anybody on earth who can constantly help with this when you need them to, i think just following a tutorial on something you dont understand step by step definitely helps to teach the concept pretty easily

gotta start small and work your way up

[hazy aspen]

Like I said, I tried YT tutorials on ts many times, but it never helps

[sour pollen]

im having an issue with my avatar, i made a mask for it but for some reason the mask doesn't stay with the head and it shrinks after it moves a certain amount. can someone help?

[tribal harness]

I'm still having issues with my emotes not working on the quest version. someone told me to check if the quest version of the prefab has all the parameters in the same order but i dont really know what I'm looking for

[smoky wagon]

so everytime i upload for quest when my pc sides are done, it always says "window security checks failed" how do i fix that?
i remember i clicked something in unity hub that made it work. but i dont remember how i did it. can someone help me?

everytime i still upload for quest, it wont work

ive done it over 4-6 times but no luck or anything

tried self converting but nothing worked

[placid shoal]

Trying to upload an avatar to quest and it keeps clearing the blueprint ID before loading up the SDK to upload.

[placid shoal]

Update to this: now it removes the blueprint ID of any avatar I select for some reason. Fresh new project, unsure why it does this.
I can explain more or go into a VC to stream the issue.

[magic slate]

Look for error messages, that blueprint one is often a side-effect of the real error.

[elfin elm]

Ah yes, transparent textures aren't transparent. Anything but admitting you're wrong💔

[warped parrot]

Why did vrc remove particle lights

I just learned how to use them

[magic slate]

because they were a workaround that allowed a thing that was never intended to be allowed

[steady idol]

since quest avatars first became a thing lights were never allowed

[flint forge]

And lights are notably bad for performance, everything the light touches has to be rendered again basically dubbling its cost and that is assuming you didn't turn shadows on which makes it even worse (which I forget if you could even do with particle lights.)

[steady idol]

particle lights are literally just lights but emitted from a particle

[magic slate]

#1138520828556890214

[fresh nest]

lol yep just saw, thank you!

[warped parrot]

There was a workaround that if it was attached to a particle it worked for quest and it barely affected performance

[steady idol]

so thats called an exploit/bypass not a "workaround" and it was literally just a light so it in fact did heavily impact performance

like lights are quite literally very performance heavy

[warped parrot]

Ive had people shine dozens and had little to no impact even on quest 2

[arctic slate]

if it didnt impact performance vrchat would allow it on the platform

they dont just set their limits willy-nilly they do some pretty good testing

[amber onyx]

That's just factually inaccurate it doubles the draw calls of any mesh you shine it on essentially doubling the the poly count I've had them crash me many times on quest 2 they're easily one of the worst optimized components in the unity engine

[elfin elm]

they testing it on a rasberry pi?😭

what kind of potato you gotta be playing on for that to lag you

[amber onyx]

Once again easily one of the most unoptimized components in the unity editor

[robust whale]

Anecdotal evidence doesn't prove anything though. They are extremely performance heavy, as others have pointed out, but if you are in an environment that has the budget for it, you wouldn't notice any performance hits.

[fiery depot]

https://x.com/ropevrc/status/1986289429670207679?s=46&t=3br2fYkaUnJ6cKl4DhLNlA
Not mine, but this creator makes a few free low-poly avatars with face tracking that are pretty decent for bases or even just using if you arent confident with optimizing higher poly models to quest.
Anyone know other similar creators for good starting points?
Helped me learn a bit so I figured id ask. Im not confident in making topography from scratch yet, but modifying and retexturing a bunch of different creator’s models alongside tutorials works for me

Rope 💫 ロープ (@RopeVRC)

Here comes #HatsuneMiku , #KasaneTeto , #akitaneru showing off their face tracking!

They are made to work in #VRChat , and are available for download now, for free on my Booth!

The song is Triple Baka by LamazeP

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[austere locust]

Does anyone know a avi that is chubby but not like super overweight

Preferably a girl avi

[magic slate]

#1138520828556890214

[foggy trail]

Does anyone have a link or know were you can get this pale king avatar or if it's public or private

[magic slate]

#1138520828556890214

[foggy trail]

Thanks

[stoic iris]

what does this mean

ive never gotten this before

[magic slate]

FYI there's a VRCFury discord too

[stoic iris]

oh

i fixed it anyways forgot i had a flipstate active

[magic slate]

oh good 🙂

(I have no idea what that is, but I don't really use Fury)

[fast flint]

Kk. Last night hot me a gaming laptop for light gaming, streaming, 3d modeling (finish work), and maybe a couple other light tasks. Is the hp victus worth it? Didnt have much in terms of spending money. Intel core i5, 16gb ddr4, nvidia geforce rtx 4050, 512gb ssd, and 15.5in display. I get i wrong be able to really run pcvr, but its not exactly why I got it.

[brittle dirge]

You can get much more for your money with a desktop than a laptop 😅

[coarse stump]

if i already have a pc avatar I can upload an android version by just switching unity to android and using the same blueprintid right?

[magic slate]

You may have to change it to be android-compatible, but yes, that's how

[coarse stump]

And is there an addon to show what parts of an avatar use the most "size" like if it's too big (in mb) for quest

[magic slate]

Thry's Avatar Tools has a thing for this, yep

[weak basin]

https://github.com/MunifiSense/VRChat-Build-Size-Viewer

[velvet nimbus]

anyone know of any quest compatible toon shaders?

[magic slate]

the ones vrchat offers in the 'mobile' directory

[weak basin]

Vrchat > mobile > toon standard

Comes with the sdk

[keen burrow]

Need help with a strange avatar issue I’m having on quest,
For some reason, in the spinning avatar preview you can see in the avatar selection menu (and expanded avatar info screen) the main body seems to render as the menu background colour (or just invisibly or masked away, due to some stuff being blocked by it’s shape despite being invisible, not fully sure what the issue is just what it looks like)

The only fix I’ve figured out for this so far is toggling off the animator on that body, but that is FAR from ideal as that then makes any animations the mesh/material the mesh has, not play at all

It’s definitely not a material problem because the hair uses the same material and it shows up fine, and I’m not sure what else the issue may be because it’s not a problem on pc, nor is it a problem ingame seemingly it’s specifically just on the preview

[rancid gazelle]

Greetings i need some help with an avi, whenever i upload to quest shows no physbones even tho the components are 8 and transforms 63, on limit and idk why its uploading with no phys

[magic slate]

Are there errors in the build console about stuff being over limits?

[rancid gazelle]

only one

but doesnt seem to be an issue for phys

just fixed that one console error

may try now but still i think is smth else

[rancid gazelle]

and in sdk console says nothing over limit niether the vrccquesttools

[magic slate]

sorry, I didn't mean error console, I meant the SDK build window where it lists your avatar stats

[rancid gazelle]

for some reason i quest shows it has 26 phys and 300 transforms

[rancid gazelle]

but checking in the unity and vrc quest tools shows nothin wrong

[magic slate]

that looks like your problem

[rancid gazelle]

mmok

[rare storm]

im having this exact same issue

[elfin elm]

noticed vrcfury makes the submenus nested inside the main one, is it possible to do this normally?

[magic slate]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/expression-menu-and-controls#types-of-controls
Sub-Menu

[elfin elm]

Oh no I know how to make sub menus, i just want to know how vrcfury does multiple menu assets in one file

[ocean arrow]

My thing keeps saying the avatar is to big beside crunching the textrures how else can I fix it

[weak basin]

https://github.com/MunifiSense/VRChat-Build-Size-Viewer

This tells you what's taking up the most space

[ocean arrow]

Thank you I have have another problem now…….how to I get rid of this extra floating hair without deleting it because it’s literally the rig idk how but it is

[steady idol]

its either there or its not

[ocean arrow]

Eh?

[steady idol]

you either have it there or you delete it

which if its a part of the fbx then you need to use blender

[rain herald]

excuse me? i thought it was 10 MB why did it change mid way of trying a millon times trying to upload for quest T0T, it fr went from 11.35MB telling me its too big to fit the 10MB limit to changing to that mess am i being ragebaited rn 🗿

is vrchat changing their dumb 10 mb limit finally or did my project glitch some how after trying to many times?

[flint forge]

"Uncompressed"
The 10MB is the entire asset bundle after being built and compressed, the 40MB is the true size of the avatar, the only one that really matters.

Generally it is as simple as, don't use crunch compression.

It should not be used on avatars, it just causes other people stutters as they load in your avatar.

[steel fern]

I could use some help, I'm running into the physbone transform limit on quest, any tips to bring back into limits?
I'm at 72.

[magic slate]

reduce number of bones in the physbones or delete physbone components

[knotty junco]

why is it doing this????

[magic slate]

vertices without weight paint

or with excessive weight paint

[pearl radish]

am i supposed to extract zip files of an avatar?

i want to import my entire avatar as one asset

so i dont have to put all the files together individually

[magic slate]

not sure why you replied to that message with something completely unrelated

[knotty junco]

i cant remove the paint on these ones

[magic slate]

Weight painting is relative - if a vertex is painted to only one bone then it'll always be 100%. Probably you'd need to paint that to another bone also, such as Hips (it's a good default)

[knotty junco]

ok thank you

[magic slate]

I don't know what that part is, but often you can be smart about which "default" bone you use. Like stuff on the head (ears, hair, whiskers, hats, etc.) should probably default to the head rather than hips

[knotty junco]

i think i fix it but i found another problem is this related to weight ?

[magic slate]

that is also bad weight painting, yep

but see if your model has extra bones to shape the rear when the legs move, it's a popular technique. Requires rotation constraints to work right, usually this is only done in Unity, but personally I set them up in Blender also so I can see how things move

[round girder]

Do Floor Colliders work on Quest?

[magic slate]

physbone colliders in general do, so I would assume so

[round girder]

Idk they work fine for pc but on Quest they don't show

[knotty junco]

i cant take it any more

[magic slate]

yeah isn't weight painting fun?

[knotty junco]

https://tenor.com/view/kassypoo-gif-23947209

[pearl radish]

because i needed help

this is hard

[magic slate]

ok well don't reply to unrelated things. Anyway nothing in Unity expects a zip file, so probably unpack that. But I don't know what the file is or what's in it, so that's about the only answer I've got

[scarlet citrus]

is there any way that i can make this scythe open like spinels gem rejouvinator from steven universe?

https://tenor.com/view/spinel-steven-universe-gif-22146303

[solid dock]

Anyone help me with uploading to PC and quest pls ????

[steady idol]

You gonna state a specific issue or?

[solid dock]

Well I’m on quest, I have no pc so I want help and someone to do it for me

Uploading it into my vr account

[steady idol]

Dont give people your login

That is incredibly stupid

[arctic slate]

sharing account info is unsafe especially with random people, id also check that w/e model you're trying to get uploaded says it can be fileshared (as 99% of them dont allow that) and if it doesnt you'd need to buy a version for your uploader

[solid dock]

OR upload it into their account and have me get the avatar from the persons account

Like clone

[hot surge]

Does anyone knos any goth avatar worlds i do need some! :3

!!

[wintry junco]

I could definitely look to see what I have saved and I'll let you know

[hot surge]

oh tysm!!

[magic slate]

an avatar must be public in order to clone it

[hot surge]

Yeah true

I dont make avatars but i do wanna start to!! Maybe

[solid dock]

Yeah they can make it public

[hot surge]

Oh ok!!

[solid dock]

Yup!

[arctic slate]

still check the model's TOU, being allowed public is another thing alot of P2U model's dont permit (and check for filesharing permissions still)

[steady idol]

#1138520828556890214

[dim nimbus]

I am having trouble uploading a quest avatar for a friend, keeps failing to build

[arctic slate]

What does the stats in the upload panel look like?

[dim nimbus]

What stats in particular? Lot of information

I have the consol error if it would help

I think something might be wrong with my unities android build but not sure

[arctic slate]

that error doesnt list anything it just tells you it failed

just screenshot all the stats on the model in the panel

im guessing you've got something thats too far outside the limits

[dim nimbus]

Yea, still tinkering, now I got it doing that thing where it says you do not own the avatar despite clearing the blueprint

[magic slate]

that error is also a side-effect, always look at the first few errors (at the top) for the root cause.

[hot surge]

Oh ty

[dim nimbus]

My android debug is missing?

[magic slate]

I have no idea what you're talking about?

[dim nimbus]

Looked at the first few errors and saw that

[magic slate]

there's nothing I can help you with unless you share the error message

[magic slate]

what did you do, click "build and test"?

[dim nimbus]

I did, trying to see if it will upload at all since all other attempts were not working

[magic slate]

That requires the android debug tools and an attached android device or emulator. Probably not what you really wanted to do. Test in play mode in Unity, then use build and publish

[dim nimbus]

I'll get back here if this next attempt fails

[high marlin]

Is there a way to mark avatars as quest and pc? so that i can just upload one after the other?

if i try and click build while both are enabled it just tries to double upload whichever version i have selected

[elfin elm]

not that i know of, i usually just have to upload the pc version, then once it uploads i have to do it again with the quest/ios one

[high marlin]

yeeeahhhh, unfortunately just the way of it right now. kinda feels like the team didn't really think the "let's spam upload one avatar after the other" through fully. it's still very deeply embedded that people use custom shaders, so without a way to account for that the feature isn't gonna get used

[elfin elm]

I mean it's at least nice for uploading to android and ios since they basically have the same limits, you just have to compress the textures differently for ios

[high marlin]

True, i dont build for IOS, but that is Acurate

[elfin elm]

wondering about the detail tab in the toon standard shader, how do you toggle the detail texture on and off with an animation

[knotty junco]

im making a medic outfit for runa this is not the first time i see this why some of the vertices are blue ?? im color blind i think thats blue

[magic slate]

those blue edges are marked sharp

[low raptor]

anyone use unity for avitar making? i have a simple likely stupid question. im teaching myself how to edit my own avatar but the model im using as my base is in japanese for all the tags avice?

[magic slate]

everyone uses Unity for VRChat avatar making

[low raptor]

its the first time ive looked into it so i genuinely didnt know lol

[magic slate]

yeah what I mean is, you must ultimately use Unity to build and upload an avatar, no matter how you create the model beforehand.

[low raptor]

so what im gathering is if i wanna add new models (mainly props) to an avi i have to build them in blender or something of the like. what about the fact everything on the model i got from booth is in japaneese. if im able to figure out what thy are is it safe to rename them or is there a problem with that pretty much ive gathered like what folders are what and some small things like one thing is linked to the coat. so if i change the names will it break something?

[magic slate]

Yeah, if you rename an object in your hierarchy and an animation is expecting the old name, you'll have stuff break.

[low raptor]

ah well that complicates. . . alot

[magic slate]

there's a nice animation repathing tool from hfcRed if you want to go actually try that

[low raptor]

currently i have a friend working on the textures. this is just a project since she was nice enough to draw my oc for me and offered to help so ive basicly pulling a "learning to avatar for dummies" for the past few hours lol so ill research it if you think it will help. in the long run im mainly just doing a few things . 1. changing the texture. 2. making the neck floof slightly larger. and 3. adding some props if i can figure out what i need to do for that at some point

[low raptor]

might have to explain whats happening here this is a file from the makers booth so im not sure where the scrips could have came from to worry about or if thats something i should contact them for (even if its an older model

[steady idol]

Why are you in prefab view

[low raptor]

Mainly to show those warning things but mainly since I have no idea what im doing lol

[magic slate]

you probably don't want to be in that mode

[low raptor]

Mainly just used that to show all the errors wondering if that was "normal." I dont even know what prefab mode means or is for yet. Im primarily learning one step at a time in a way akin to an idiot setting things on fire to see what explodes and what doesn't

[weak basin]

so you can tell you are editing a prefab instead of the whole scene because the skybox is replaced with blue, and the top of the hierarchy has the prefab name. Click the arrow on the left of the prefab name in the hierarchy to stop editing the prefab and to get back to the scene.

the skybox usually looks like this, but some projects have custom ones.

[low raptor]

And what about those warnings. It says they are missing scripts is that a concern?

[weak basin]

uhhhh you don't have to worry about the console warnings unless it prevents you from upload or something is broken in-game

I don't remember what those specific errors mean but missing scripts will throw a different error

the sdk throws so many junk errors to console so don't worry about it until something is broken

here is the hierarchy when you are editing the ecene (what you want to be doing). You can tell its a scene because of the icon here. The name by the icon is the scene name

[weak basin]

Swapping textures can be done in unity. You need to click on the mesh you want to texture swap, and edit the material. drag the new texture into the material where the old texture was. Where the textuer will be in the material depends on what shader you use

alot of booth stuff uses lilToon, here is where to find the base texture in lilToon

[low raptor]

Would it be as easy as giving the texture files to my friend who's doing the digital art of it? Then just inserting the new files in their place?

[weak basin]

yep

just import the new textures into the project, and click and drag

[low raptor]

Neat. That's the first change we are gonna make when she's done. The next one is making the chest floof bigger

[weak basin]

making the neck fluff larger might be more difficult. If there are fluff bones, you could go in the armature and scale up those bones. If the neck fluff is weighted to the neck/chest, then you will need to do some blender work. Alternatively, the creator of this avatar might have included a blendshape for the neck fluff size. That would be the first place I would check

click on the mesh with the neck fluff, and in the inspector click the down arrow for Blendshapes

[low raptor]

Its not gonna be much bigger. Just a little bit thankfully

[weak basin]

now im going to take a guess and say that your blendshapes are going to be named in japanese. this will make things more annoying, because to see if a blendshape controlls the neck fluff, you are going to have to test all of them

by dragging the slider, something on the mesh should change or move. See if one of the blendshapes is either named something like "fluff" in english, or test all the japanese ones you can't understand

[low raptor]

Loading up my PC now. Just got home from work as was resting lol

[weak basin]

I do have to go, but I can check back later to see if you need more help. Pray you have a fluff blendshape or else making the neck fluff bigger is going to be much more annoying and difficult.

[low raptor]

I'll use what you've explained to see what I can see thank you for the help

No such blendshape thing. Sadly. Problem for a future me lol

[weak basin]

alright, next best thing is bones. In the hierarchy, the first object is the avatar, the next object should be the armature. opening that up, it should be Hips, then Spine, and then Chest (all in japanese of course, just try your best). Look in the chest and click on the bones, see if any of them look like they are near the neck fluff.