avatar-quest

[steady idol]

all an outline is is the mesh but inverted

[sonic canopy]

but the thing is

for some models outlines in blender being too fricking thick

[steady idol]

then just make it not as thick?

just dont offset the scale as much

[sonic canopy]

its 0.01 still thick as hell

[steady idol]

then your avatar's scaling is fucked

[sonic canopy]

hows that works

its happenes for most models

[steady idol]

if .01 is causing issues then your scaling is either incredibly tiny or massive I forgot which

[north tulip]

it happens when you don't set the export scaling to FBX all

or, when you forget to apply transforms.

-# assuming i understood the topic correctly

[sonic canopy]

i meant this

i use blender to add outline for quest versions but it makes it thick as hell

even at 0.01

idk why it happenes in some models

in some models its ok

wait a sec i just found a dif way lol

[north tulip]

oooh nevermind, i missunderstood it complitely.

[sonic canopy]

same thing with mom can i get fortnite battle pass lol

[drifting quest]

Can someone please DM me how to fix physbone on a model I bought

The physbones work just fine in unity but they disappear in quest

I’ll send you images of the issue and you can tell me what to fix

Please help asap!

[magic slate]

you'll get more help if you send those images here

[drifting quest]

Alright then

One sec

My friend is uploading the avatar for me because I don’t have a pc

So I have to get images from him

[thick heart]

having issues with a gun shooting but then disappearing after the shoot gesture (fist) is released

looking for a bit of help in possibly fixing jt

this is only for the quest side

[wooden fable]

The issue is most likely that there are too many physbones or too many physbone transforms. If you have over 8 physbone components or over 64 physbone transforms, they will all be removed upon upload.

[drifting quest]

We fixed it, thanks for the info tho!

[brisk ibex]

Odd place to ask, this is an avatar channel

[pastel storm]

Job...

[high ore]

How can I add outlines to my avi for quest I’ve seen it done but I’ve been told it’s impossible

[steady idol]

itd double your tri count

[high ore]

Damn ight

[steady idol]

which for some people would be impossible for their barely optimized avatar

you just take the fbx into blender
duplicate the mesh
invert normals
scale it out a bit

[high ore]

Thank you!😭❤️‍🩹

[plain ridge]

does anyone have any avatars that are similar to this? preferably with some quest toggles <33

[magic slate]

#1138520828556890214

[wispy talon]

How do I remove transparency from a material to make it quest compatible

[steady idol]

blender

[wispy talon]

I lack those skills

[magic slate]

they can be acquired.

[wispy talon]

Not now, Im already too busy trying to understand unity

[loud prairie]

Hello everyone

[worldly magnet]

Oo that's poppy, if you like avis like that them U might like woofles

They're avis have quest toggles, even hair hue works

I highly recommend them

[muted steeple]

So this new shader Vrchat/Mobile/Toon standard, is it really quest compatible? Seems too good to be true.

[jagged sequoia]

yes it's Quest compatible and the only feature not available on Quest is outline Shader variation of it every other aspect of the new Shader is Quest compatible

[muted steeple]

This is huge, like oh my god. Ive been making personals since avi 2.0.

[jagged sequoia]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRazd85RjgA

[muted steeple]

I just watched that, I cant believe it, like I thought I was getting trolled.

Thank you for your time, im gonna go freak tf out.

[jagged sequoia]

have fun with the new Shader

[dim echo]

heyy
I just done my quest version of my current avatar and wanna upload to vrchat
I've already delete the phys bone to have only height and turn matérials quest compatible and. . . . . . . .in the control panel why does I can't turn it on quest platform?
need something more?
(I'm kind of a newbie in that )

[magic slate]

Possibly you did not install the quest build tools?

[dim echo]

uh?
we need it ?
how get it tho

[magic slate]

yeah you can't build quest content without that. I added by clicking the gear icon in the "installs" section of unity hub. Not sure if you can via VCC as I don't use that.

https://creators.vrchat.com/platforms/android/setting-up-unity-for-creating-quest-content might help

[muted tartan]

Welp.... I got scammed

[arctic slate]

how'd you get scammed?

[flint lynx]

Does anyone know what's happening? The quest version uploads but isn't accessible ingame?

[magic slate]

is it very very poor or something?

[flint lynx]

Is there a difference between very poor and that?

[magic slate]

those security checks usually trip when there's something way outside of reasonable boundaries.

[arctic slate]

posting a screenshot of the stats in the unity upload panel might help with figuring out whats causing it to fail the security checks

[flint lynx]

This is from another creators and I am troubleshooting it, but I am assuming it is because of going over the limit of 8 physbones

[magic slate]

yeah that doesn't surprise me it failed checks

remember that your own headset/computer has to render your avatar 2-3 times, so something this bad is going to absolutely affect your own performance too

[flint lynx]

Yeah but it's never been a problem before

[magic slate]

with this exact avatar?

[flint lynx]

No this is a commission I did for quest but it won't upload for them

[magic slate]

You made this? Huh, okay.

[arctic slate]

nearly every stat is far outside the maximum limit set, optimize it and it'll work. the quickest ones to fix would be your texture memory and phybone components the rest will need some messing around with in blender though

[flint lynx]

Like I said before this was never an issue, tons of avis go over the limit

[magic slate]

the security checks catch things like this because yes, they are an issue. The checks have been increased somewhat recently, so that's probably why this is getting flagged when perhaps it didn't before.

[arctic slate]

just because others do it doesnt make it right, making your uploaded content optimized (or in this case your customer's) should always be the priority when making quest compatible models due to hardware restrictions especially if its meant to be a commission and in your specific case very much is the issue currently

doing the most barebones support for a model that someones paying you to setup is kinda scummy imo

[flint lynx]

??? It's a realistic model and not anime style so it is to be expected that it be high poly and such??? What you said makes sense for an anime styled avi but not an e boy and e girl model, let alone a quest version. What do you want me to do? Have the base be 10k polys and all toggles be 1k? You're able to click my link in bio and see that I don't do "bare minimum" this is honestly a braindead take and I'll be asking somewhere else where I will get reliable info from creators and not being insulted for my work by someone who isn't even a creator and by someone who makes assets for children. Have a great day!

[mellow fulcrum]

@magic slate @arctic slate the issue is the avatar did upload and work fine for a bit. They are within the limits as much as i can make them for this avatar

the texture memory above is before compression on upload

This is what the vram is again before further compression on upload

The physbones were also removed to fit

I had this avatar upload mutliple times untill about last night without having made any changes to the avatar or project at all

It sorta just stopped working, was there an update to limits is more the question

Ill grab the SFW stats that is still up.

[sonic canopy]

i wonder why poiyomi shadered avis looks the same in every single world's lightning but some quest shaders even toon standard looks bad in some world's lightning?

whever i go with a poiyoi shadered avi it looks same

same good look but when its toon standard in some worlds it looks good but in some the speculer effect gones

[mellow fulcrum]

Depends on the way the creator has set their shading up in poi. Poi gives us more control with how we want light to hit and interact with our models and we can restrict it or force it to behave certain ways with poi. However the quest shader is not set up to do this the same however it has gotten a lot better

[sonic canopy]

i just wish my avi's shader was looking same in every single world

[mellow fulcrum]

Worlds have different lighting set up to so this wont always be the case.

[sonic canopy]

in a world it looks so realistic

[sonic canopy]

no way to pass the worlds lightning tho?

like the world's lightning wont effect on avi;s shader and look

[mellow fulcrum]

Not from what ive seen with the quest shader. Poiyomi you can i think

[sonic canopy]

aw

[mellow fulcrum]

its something you would have to research into with the quest shader

[sonic canopy]

i wonder why toon standard's speculer looks more darker then standard lite

would standard lite's too much for it?

[mellow fulcrum]

As i said i would play with the shader and learn about it

[shell swallow]

I'm trying to convert a VRoid model into a quest compatable avatar, but the VR chat toon shaders aren't treating the transparent parts very well, what should i do?

[manic ore]

If it's for the PC version, try using a different shader that supports transparent like poiomi toon. If it's for the quest version, try the vrchat mobile particle shaders

[shell swallow]

It's for quest, and the particle shaders didn't really bode well...

[manic ore]

Yeah its either that or nothing

Quest doesn't support transparency except for the particle shaders

[arctic slate]

there wasnt any mentioned update about the limits recently based off the #announcements so i doubt thats the case

[mellow fulcrum]

im ngl, i think i had the blondest moment of my life.

It was pending being checked.

💀

Ofc it wouldnt work right away 💀

I never realised that it took time after the upload for the quest version to be checked-

Either way i went back and further optimised it n stuff

[eager zenith]

New to the discord

I'd like to ask about getting an avatar for free since I got no money

DM me for info about the avatar

[magic slate]

You'll probably have people trying to scam you in DM now, be careful.

Though I suppose if you aren't paying, nobody is going to waste their time.

[arctic slate]

VRCTraders (link in #1204490664637890580 ) has a free section for commissions you could try

[eager zenith]

Thank you

[mortal remnant]

Hello

[dim cove]

hi?

[high ore]

Does anyone know how to fix this?

[magic slate]

there's a vrcfury discord but if this is from an asset you didn't create yourself, probably the creator of it should look at it

or.... maybe it's trying to add a controller you already have, such as you manually installed gogo loco then also are trying to use the vrcfury prefab

[high ore]

Ok! I'll join their discord and ask there!

[slow roost]

Anyone know how to make it work for Andriod

I will pay someone at this point to help.

[magic slate]

did you click "generate impostors" there?

[slow roost]

No, i have not.

[magic slate]

well if you want to pay me $100, I'll click it for you 🙂

in all seriousness, if you want impostors, click that. If you want something else, explain.

[slow roost]

Will that make it work for meta?

[magic slate]

it will create an impostor, sure.

[slow roost]

Alrighty, let me upload my new version give me a momento.

[slow roost]

I pressed it it just refreshed the page.

[slow roost]

Nvm thank you.

[minor cedar]

please tell me some ready-made assets of third person view that will work on android/quest, and that can be installed using modular avatar or vrcfury

[half fable]

If it uses a puppet yes if it uses a camera no

[peak arch]

quest user can only have 10 mb

[minor cedar]

Ok, suggest something that can push the character forward, like gogo freeze, but using modular avatar

[mortal remnant]

How are you d6

[jaunty chasm]

Can somebody help me find this avatar?

I used to have it and I can't find it, I don't remember it's name

[magic slate]

#1138520828556890214

[radiant folio]

Hᴇʏ ᴜʜᴍ.. ɪᴍ ʀᴇᴀʟʟʏ ɴᴏᴛ ᴜsᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ᴛʏᴘᴇɪɴɢ ɪɴ ʜᴇʀᴇ ʙᴜᴛ ᴄᴀɴ ʏᴀʟʟ ғɪɴᴅ ᴍᴇ ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴀ ʀᴇᴀʟʟʏ ᴄᴜᴛᴇ ᴀᴠɪ ʟᴋᴇ ᴇᴍᴏ ᴀɴᴅ ᴘʀᴇᴘᴘʏ? ᴀɴᴅ Aɴᴅ ᴏɴᴇ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ʟᴏᴏᴋs ʟɪᴋᴇ ғᴀʟʟɪɴɢ ʀᴀɪɴs ᴀᴠɪs? ɪ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ sᴏ ʜᴀᴘᴘʏ ɪғ ʏᴀʟʟ ᴅɪᴅ ᴛʀʏ :3

[arctic slate]

several of their models are pirated as alot of them are booth edits but you could make a post in #1138520828556890214 for something similar that isnt a booth edit of some kind

[radiant folio]

Oʜ ᴏᴋ ᴛʏsᴍ ғᴏʀ ʜᴇʟᴘɪɴɢ ᴍᴇ

[hearty plinth]

May someone please help me with blender im trying to figure out how to use the cutout took to exporr it to ujity

[magic slate]

what have you done and where are you stuck?

[hearty plinth]

Ive been stuck on tjis for days

A guy helped me and it was actually compatible with quest but he went to blender and cutout the image and it worked idk how to do it tho

[magic slate]

probably using the knife tool, there are a bunch of tutorials for this, it's a pretty common thing to do

no, I don't have any links quickly available

[hearty plinth]

Yh he did

A knife

[magic slate]

yep

[hearty plinth]

But i need help

Bc im new

Know anybody i could go to

[magic slate]

did you want to commission someone?

[hearty plinth]

Just for me personally

[magic slate]

that didn't really answer my question

maybe this helps though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb3qod9-9DM

[kindred fractal]

^ this tool is supah useful :o

[magic slate]

honestly I can't think of a time I've actually used it

[kindred fractal]

It’s good for cutting out stuff thats transparent. I’ve used it for eyebrows, the occasional eyelashes, blush

[magic slate]

yup, I've seen the use-cases, it makes sense

[hearty plinth]

But i wanna use photos

I need helping figuring out how to do this

Somebody else did it for me

[magic slate]

do what?

[hearty plinth]

A cardboard

Cutout

[pure fiber]

redoing shapekeys is required.

[pure fiber]

import the image into blender,
use knife tool, cutting image

[hearty plinth]

I meed help with that

May u help?

[pure fiber]

no :) please learn it well ~

[main kernel]

Does anyone know where to find like female avatars that have like weapons that can move around

[arctic slate]

look for an existing post in #1138520828556890214 or make your own there

if you're gonna make your own post make sure to specify free or P2U, what platform it'd need to support, maybe specific types of weapons etc

[vernal vale]

Is there any apps you can use on mobile to make your own avatars?

[robust whale]

i think you can use readyplayerme

but other than that, no

you need a PC (anything but a chromebook) to use unity, which is needed for uploading avatars

[vernal vale]

Alright thanks!

[proud hollow]

Can I get some help?I made a new account, but you aint letting me play in natural VR chat.
It's saying I have a VR chat on Google and I can't figure this now.Can I get some milk

Help

.

So I found that i'm on vrchat.com/home

And I don't know how to get on the actual v r chat

Can I get some help

Please

[pure fiber]

https://avatarmaker.vket.com/en/
https://xr-marketplace.com/en/makeavatar
https://readyplayer.me/vrchat

[pure fiber]

install the vrchat app on Quest Headset, Steam (PC), or Android Phone Mobile

[magic slate]

Please don't ping me directly for new questions, anyone here can help.

[harsh wedge]

Is it me or did converting avatars for quest get even harder ?

[flint forge]

Aside from server side blocking (stopping modded sdks) and the introduction of the 40MB uncompressed size (download size is still 10 MB), there has not been any changes.

[pure fiber]

many additions… really 😌

[foggy terrace]

the only change recently has been their attempts to stop bypasses for transparency on quest. this is because the quest's hardware simply cant render transparency fast since it is fill rate limited and since the quest uses tile-based rendering.
they havent been changing quest performance requirements any, only enforcing what already was bannable.

[tiny rain]

Has anyone got a guide for translating settings between Poiyomi, and Toon Standard?
There is a fair bit of content talking about how good it is, and what options it has, but I am really struggling to get anywhere close to replicating the look of the avatar with Poiyomi.
Like Poiyomi's Environmental Rim doesn't cleanly translate to Toon Standard's Rim Lighting for example

[pure fiber]

true, it’s hard… i’m interested too!

[fluid spade]

It won’t let me select android, what should I do?

Is there a version of unity I have to download for android ?

Can someone pls help

[magic slate]

2022.3.22f1 but you do need the android build tools too, see this: https://creators.vrchat.com/platforms/android/setting-up-unity-for-creating-quest-content

[magic slate]

probably you're seeing their fallbacks because their avatars are VeryPoor

[robust whale]

Your toggle must be set up wrong on quest

Impostors? Just fully enable their avatar

Impostors are basically sprite/png versions of an avatar. They are used for unoptimized avatars so you can still see what someone looks like without actually having to load the whole thing in. It's basically just an advanced png. If you want to load it in, then you can select the player and click the eye icon to fully show their avatar. Keep in mind that this only works if their avatar is uploaded to the platform you are on.

[magic slate]

probably everyone you're looking at is a very poor

[ripe igloo]

yeah

[dim cove]

hey uhh it says you're using bloodborne 🤨
its against vrchat's tos to use modified sdks

you wanna get banned? 🤣

vrchat

we got a ban evader here bois

[ripe igloo]

what did he do?

[dim cove]

no clue

[magic slate]

Your discord status says so

fascinating.

[dim cove]

🤦🏻‍♂️

well dont complain when your avatar gets security checks failed

[ripe igloo]

well maybe he is just playing...

[dim cove]

no

look on his profile

[ripe igloo]

oops

well maybe you should warn and explain him about it 1 time

maybe he doesn't know...

[dim cove]

i did

[dim cove]

.

[ripe igloo]

oh then it's okay

[astral scroll]

😬

[vast gyro]

Yo

I am new here

[mystic rapids]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[magic slate]

probably it's way over the limit in some way

[sage belfry]

First time using Toon standard and it's really impressive

[weak basin]

So the new bubble gun item has liquid physics that work on quest. Doesn't this mean quest could have a working liquid physics shader for avatars possibly?

[magic slate]

no custom shaders on quest, so it must do it another way

[steady idol]

wdym liquid physics

[flint forge]

It is an item, so VRC can put whatever they want on it.

[flint forge]

No reason why VRC couldn't add it, does seem to be a shader (although I would guess that this one requires a script or physbone to actually have physics, it is definitely not doing physics in shader), but VRC could have added a lot of other small shaders, they just haven't so seems unlikely they would for this.

[steady idol]

its just a stencil

[flint forge]

That would make sense (although did recently hear that stencils aren't great on mobile chips either).

[steady idol]

they are in fact not

[weak basin]

However they've done the physics on the liquid, it must be quest compatible, or else it wouldnt work on quest and it clearly does. They should port these methods via a shader or whatever they used to do it so quest avatars can have liquid just like PC Avis

https://feedback.vrchat.com/feature-requests/p/add-a-liquid-shader-for-quest-avatars

[dim cove]

but why?

[magic slate]

oh is there a new VRChat-provide item? I must have missed it

[steady idol]

"poiyomi works on quest worlds so it must be quest compatible"
avatars are significantly more strict than other limits for a reason

items being its own unique thing that you cant compare to avatars

[fading nymph]

Why are male avatars hard to find for quest

Like good ones too

[weak basin]

You can only be in one world at a time, but everyone in your instance can spawn the item. It's like having a bunch of avatars with the shader. It should be fine on quest.

[dim cove]

nope 😅
assuming you're talking about water shaders, they are very performance heavy, especially on quest

[steady idol]

the one on the bubble gun is literally just a stencil

which is not good for performance

[dim cove]

yeahhh

[steady idol]

cause like if there wasnt any issue you would yknow have it already

[dim cove]

yeah

exactly

[weak basin]

unlike pc, where the community can come together and make anything possible, quest is reliant on a company or team of people to make everything we can use. There is probably loads of things we could have that a team just hasn't thought of, cared to do, or maybe didn't have enough people to do it.

I don't understand how it could be so bad for performance and at the same time be 1) implemented on quest officially though a spawnable item, 2) cause no lag issues on quest, and 3) function perfectly. I've done my testing on the quest 2 - the weaker of the two supported headsets - and have had no issues with multiple users having the guns out at once, twirling them around and really making the shader render all that liquid.

But I'm not in the backend coding shaders, so if there is some sort of programming exception to implementing this in the sdk I'd love to know more about it.

[fossil garnet]

Trying to upload an avatar with a 2D Transparent face on Quest, with a material that usually works, but it just keeps telling me these over and over. it's even weirder because just a couple weeks ago I could use actual particles on quest, so I don't know why the shader would be the issue, nor is anything else here usually a game-breaker, so I'm just confused as to why quest keeps saying "no".

[delicate quail]

there's been an update that fixed the bug that allowed for this material trick to work.

[steady idol]

its a similar reason why you cant have transparency

[robust whale]

I think that's kind of the reason why they're allowed when vrc wants to. They test their use case for them extensively to make sure it doesn't cause any performance issues. But if someone can easily use it in a very unoptimized way and cause lag, then they won't allow the general public to use it. They know how to optimize and they set their own standards for the game. Performance rankings for avatars however, are based on a worse-case scenario because 1) they can't trust the general public to know how to use all their tools in an optimized way, and 2) they can't manually review every avatar, so even if something performs well in practice, there's no way for then to make exceptions for these avatars (not without redesigning the whole system). That's why things that are hand-picked like the marketplace avatars can have exceptions (they will sometimes allow very poor), because they manually review its performance.

[burnt mural]

5F nardo warmers...
https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/LWWTLgypW86XibM/preview

Even with decimating polys...
https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/ya6NBqfiMt84GdL/preview

still over 15k

https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/Errdpb8HKTWZ9Qy/preview

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/942448288538427482.webp?size=48&name=woeme~1

I doubt i will be able to have clothing for quest this way

One thing i can do, is split up the avatar into 2 materials i guess.
Use one material for the atlas of textures of the avatar, and then use material which just has the arms and stuff with a different material, and material swap that. That way, i could re-use the polys on my avatar and still have warmers (2d) on the avatar with toon standard

So basically like this and then add a material just for the arms and legs
https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/XzDj6K8Mpp2APED/preview

How else would you (the one who is reading this) do it?

[burnt mural]

https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/G2dxjK8HM4pJEGk/preview

Now i have the problem that lighting is different on the seperate meshes

[burnt mural]

I merged the meshes back and made sure to re-connect them again by merging vertices.
This made it way less noticeable.
I also assigned the materials while it was not yet merged which made it a lot easier to have 2 materials for the avatar. The more i know

https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/WeTWZQf9LTz7pkj/preview

[dim cove]

i made a fallback for my avatar but people keep seeing an "impostor" despite the fact i deleted all impostors?

[burnt mural]

You have to disable imposters in your settings. It should be in the big menu under avatars

i think it can also be found in the small settings menu

Then people will start seeing your fallback instead of the Avis imposter

[dim cove]

i tried that
apparently i'm invisible???

[flint swallow]

Hey can i get help with an avatar being uploaded to my account? I don’t have a pc to load it to quest?

[magic slate]

you'd need a computer that can run Unity. Otherwise you'd have to give someone your account credentials, and cause your account to be linked to theirs, risking potential ban if they get banned... not a great idea.

[flint swallow]

Can’t it be done without the linking?

[magic slate]

no

[flint swallow]

What accounts would be linked?

[magic slate]

VRC apparently treats you as alternates

[flint swallow]

Even if they sign out of their accounts first

[magic slate]

apparently

[flint swallow]

That’s not very consumer friendly

[magic slate]

I think they expect people without PCs to purchase avatars from the marketplace nowadays

[flint swallow]

Well all of those suck

[dim cove]

does anybody know why my fallback is "invisible"??
for context, it's a 2d image (both sides duplicated so that there would be no backface culling) attached to a humanoid rig, using the quest toonlit shader
it should work fine, and yet people tell me its invisible? and yes, i did parent the image to the armature

[nova token]

Normally I can I get it upload for you tho or make it for you

If anyone interested

[regal kiln]

Didnt they remove fallbacks? Im more surprised you can still select one!

[dim cove]

yes?
you can select a fallback on the website
also, im using the latest version of the sdk, which still allows me to upload fallbacks

[regal kiln]

Oh shit your right!
Is it just new accounts dont get one by default anymore? Half of my lobbies have become robots again ever since
Anyway to your actual question, did you weight your mesh to any bone? VRChat might be freaking out when trying to scale it to match whatever avatar you have on

[magic slate]

so like, most of them?

[dim cove]

#1138520828556890214

although you may have to be more specific than that 👀

[magic slate]

this channel is about building content for the game, probably try a general one.

[ripe igloo]

and no one here is making free avatar for you....here

[dim cove]

yeahhh... watch out for the scammers 👀

best bet would be to join vrcrtraders

[ripe igloo]

he's not here to commission..lol

[cyan agate]

I love the part where vrchat devs didnt want cnstraints on quest yet when they made VRC Constraints that 30 is the max for an avatar's performance rank to still be excellent

like how

and it legit does the exact same as normal constraints minus seats since they dont work properly with world constraints but thats besides the point

[flint forge]

It comes to the same-ish result, but it doesn't get there the same, ignoring how a lot of Unity's systems just aren't very optimized overall, VRC Constraints are highly optimized and specifically for VRChat, Unity constraints are supposed to work in every use case you could use Unity for.

Take it as an example of just how bad Unity constraints are and how well optimized VRC constraints are.

[cyan agate]

are cameras now allowed on quest?

i have the third person thing on my avatar and on the quest build thing it doesnt say i have any illegal scripts :p

same with audio sources?

wha

weird

[flint forge]

Not sure about cameras, but audio sources are definitely not allowed and have not been stealth allowed.

If you manage to upload an avatar with them then server side checking will fail your avatar.

[cyan agate]

nvm something just errored and didnt let it update what it was :P

and yeah cameras are bad

sadge

no way to remove cameras only for quest/ios when doing multi-platform uploads sadly

atleast i dont think so

[flint forge]

You can in theory upload different avatar objects in the hierarchy to different platforms, never used it but that is one way to do it.

VRCQuestTools probably does the removing of such components automatically though

[wanton scarab]

That’s what I used to do. I used to have a pc model and a quest model where the quest model was just a more optimized version of the pc one

[crystal depot]

I know im late but nowadays you have to actually HAVE the face into textures with material swaps as far as im aware. If your using a base, your out of luck unless you know what your doing.

[bleak herald]

Any quest dev's here know any tricks or workarounds to getting transparent/cutout materials working on mobile? An example being a 2D face that's tied to a transparent atlus texture

[steady idol]

The workaround is not using transparency

[flint forge]

Don't stack transparent objects and I believe using the alpha blended shader would be your best ready to go choice, because it is meant for Quest worlds.

But yes, if you can get away with not using transparency they don't.

Also you could maybe manuall cut out the meshes as in cases more polygons is better than transparency.

[pure fiber]

knife tool in Blender

[steady idol]

dont think you can use alpha blended on avatars

[flint forge]

Missed what channel this was in.

[crude smelt]

Hello !! I have this issue that when i upload my avatar on the android version its just turn my avatar into a "securtity failed" avatar do any of you guys know why ?

even it say that is uploaded corecctly ...

Latest version of Creator companion

i just chekc evertyhing i cant find what wrong

[vital schooner]

im getting this issue too, not sure why

[steady idol]

just because it uploaded doesnt mean its absolute dogshit for performance

[harsh sluice]

Does anyone know why a wildfire avi I used to wear doesn't have a transparent shield anymore. It used to be see through

[crude smelt]

Ok might be helpfull for you guys

The problem was the mixed write default on & off

so i just fiexed it with the vrlabs thing by forcing them to be the same

[steady idol]

quest doesnt support transparency

[harsh sluice]

When did that happen

[steady idol]

always was a thing?

the only transparency that is allowed on quest is the 2 particle shaders

[harsh sluice]

I thought I saw a bunch of transparent stuff

Wonder of it was the bloodborn update

[steady idol]

there were bypasses but vrchat keeps patching them out

[steady idol]

that is a modified sdk

which is banned entirely

[sullen kayak]

Hey I am having some issues with switching my unity project to build for Quest, When I open the project it claims I dont have the android packages installed, but in Unity hub they are installed, if I try using the manual installer for the andoird package, it gives me an error that it failed to delete the previous android installation files.

I dont really know what to do here and its extremely frustrating, I tried reinstalling Unity and the android packages several times with no luck. What can I do here?

[robust whale]

Unrelated but I love your pfp/banner

Normal map dot com

Ik that's not the actual url

Normal map online or wtv

A very helpful resource

[trail cipher]

20 mbs when

[magic slate]

likely never while existing devices are still supported.

[pastel prairie]

How to get avatars mobile

[sonic canopy]

what else options could toon standard get in future

[flint forge]

Going by the roadmap it is probably done aside from potential bug fixes.

https://ask.vrchat.com/t/vrchat-creators-roadmap-july-2025/45859

[true burrow]

make Nwo 4 Life render in Honore of Hollywood Hogan

[formal sandal]

anyone got some tips on making transparent shaders work on mobile? or something similar

[robust whale]

You can use particles/additive and particles/multiply

[formal sandal]

the multiply one i tried but did not seem to work?

[robust whale]

Multiply and additive both work. Multiply and additive are both blend modes. In short, Multiply makes things darker while keeping light colors transparent, while additive makes things lighter while keeping dark things transparent

Additive can be used to make something glow, while multiply can be used to make something shaded or black

It's also possible to combine them together to make a cutout transparency. First use black in the shape if your image with the multiply shader, then use the regular image with additive on top of it

[formal sandal]

well it diff did not work for me i can tell you. in unity yes. but ingame nope it just makes the texture appear as its not really there? but then again now i am thinking about it could be due to a masking issue

[robust whale]

There can be issues with mirrors if the image isn't transparent, but otherwise it should work the same as in unity

[formal sandal]

wasn't even a mirror or any of it

it just doesn't show for my friend who has a quest 2 i believe it was?

[formal sandal]

wait how? isnt that two materials to make that work unless you can combine them somehow?

@robust whale any knowledge of Alpha blended works within particles?

[robust whale]

yes, two materials, and alpha blended does not work

you're not allowed to use it on quest avatars

[formal sandal]

alright

hmm im gonna try and find out why it isnt working

[wanton scarab]

The particle shaders only really works if it has an object behind it to make it stand out. For example if you had a tattoo image on the arm, you could use multiply for the tattoo to appear in front of the arm and it would look perfect. However the particle shaders aren’t very useful when they are used by themselves, for example emoticons. It just depends on the situation really

[robust whale]

They are useful by themselves, it just depends on the use case

[onyx zephyr]

Anybody got guy avatars that aren’t furry

I need one so bad

[frosty temple]

you can check in the #1138520828556890214

[onyx zephyr]

Thankssss

[sonic canopy]

Is sparkle effect too much for quest?

[lyric cipher]

I don't think it works on quest. I can't remember. I haven't been on standalone quest in over a year

[magic slate]

yeah none of the quest-compatible shaders do that, as far as I'm aware

[weak basin]

You can do glitter on quest. You just need to texture it manually instead of using a shader to do it

Look up like sparkle/glitter on Google to get a texture, and use it as an emission or detail layer on toon standard (set the tiling number on the x and y until it looks good). Don't forget to turn off mipmaps on the glitter texture or it won't work

[magic slate]

okay that's kinda clever

[sonic canopy]

at least can alpha blended be useable for quest?

[robust whale]

Not on avatars

[sonic canopy]

i mean its just a little transparency how heavy it could be? im guessing vrchat used it for emojis stuff

how heavy it could be?

[robust whale]

Doesn't really matter

It's not allowed

If you try to upload it won't let you

[magic slate]

"a little transparency" is the basically the same as "a lot of transparency"

[flint forge]

It was covered here not long ago by someone that knows this stuff, any transparency is pretty much the same as all transparency, so it is surprising that they even allow additive or multiply, but because of their niche usecases at least people won't use it for much, which is good for performance.

[sonic canopy]

so toon sandard outline will never be in quest too?

[flint forge]

Well no, they've already decided to not include it so definitely not any time soon (with that I mean years).
But it doesn't use transparency, it instead duplicates the mesh in the shader (I assume), which is on mobile hardware also a pretty expensive operation if it even supports it.

[sonic canopy]

hope i can get a new pc what can i say lol

[reef prairie]

What shader is used on the hair of this?

[steady idol]

matcap probably?

[spring kernel]

So, out of nowhere the shader on my avatar on Quest and iOS end now shows pink despite using VRChat’s mobile shaders that worked before. I haven’t even updated the avatar on those platforms for the shader to stop working.

[steady idol]

and what are these "mobile shaders that worked before"

[sonic canopy]

Rim lightning option on toon standard

[reef prairie]

Nice

[spring kernel]

Standard lite. I know that VRChat has now added more for mobile but i’m still using Standard lite.

[steady idol]

you using the official vrchat sdk?

[spring kernel]

Yup

[steady idol]

and how old is the project

like what version

[spring kernel]

Unity version is 2022. I’ve updated the SDK to the latest version

[steady idol]

got any material swaps

[spring kernel]

Well yes but only on the pc copy of the avatar. The quest version i haven’t touched at all.

[steady idol]

and you sure you arent trying to matswap to a pc only shader

[spring kernel]

Hmmmm, i think i see what happened. But it shouldn’t have.

I didn’t think that the matswap would apply to the quest version.

[steady idol]

well if you have the toggle then ofc its going to still do it

[spring kernel]

Either way, thank you for having me double check.

[solid sentinel]

Toon standard with rim lighting.

Super simple just update the SDK to the most recent.

[reef prairie]

Yup I've been told, I'm not making an avi I was just curious

[jade inlet]

i'm trying to set up a hueshift for my emission but its only doing 3 colours instead of the full rainbow would anyone know why?

[frosty temple]

That usually happens if your hue shift is using a gradient with only 3 color keys or the hue range is limited.

[jade inlet]

its not using a gradient, and when i drag the slider on the actual hue shift tab it can go in all the colours so its not limited??

[frosty temple]

Make sure the shader’s hue shift is set to cycle 0–360° smoothly, not just blend between a few preset colors. In Poiyomi, use HSV mode with time-based offset for a full rainbow.

[jade inlet]

uhmm this is all im seeing

[jade inlet]

and this with my vrcfury, i'd use poi but its not compat with quest, so im using the new toon standard

[frosty temple]

The reason you’re only getting 3 colours is because right now that slider is a fixed value it’s not animated. If you want a smooth rainbow, you have to animate that Emission Hue Shift slider over time instead of setting it once.

[frosty temple]

You’ll need to animate the _EmissionHueShift value from 0 to 1 in a looping animation so it cycles smoothly through all colours. Right now it’s only changing when you move the slider, which is why you only see 3 colours.

[jade inlet]

ooohhh okay

[jade inlet]

how fix? :(

[silent siren]

Select the model and go to the "Rig" tab in the inspector. Hit "Configure" to look at the humanoid avatar definition

You should see something like this

click the "Head" button and see what bones are assigned in there

notably, if you click on the bone in the "Head" slot, what gets selected in the 3D view?

[jade inlet]

the head :(

[steady idol]

it literally tells you in the last sentence
the name for rigged bones needs to be unique
nothing can share the name

[jade inlet]

but it wont let me change the fbx name from "head" to "body"

if i do it in the normal heigh it doesn't change

[steady idol]

you do that in blender

[silent siren]

ah, right, you probably have an object named "Head" (like you have one named "Body")

and yes, that's the fix

I just realized that's why the head mesh was called "HeadGeo" and not just "Head" on one of the models I've used

[glad haven]

Not sure if this is a quest issue since its only happening on quest but I have found that for whatever reason one of my avatars doesnt have the purple spheres that you use for grabbing physbones. And hand colliders in general.

[glad haven]

Well not sure what the problem was I basically just started over from scratch :/ oh well.

[orchid halo]

I was use trying to use an avatar with audio but I can’t hear anything and I don’t know if a setting thing or something else

[silent siren]

Quest avatars cannot use audio sources

[orchid halo]

Oh that’s why it won’t work oh well thank you

[true frigate]

Purple spheres? I also don't think you can erase hand colliders from avatars, those are automatically made far as I'm aware. I did see one time in VR chat that all phys bones broke until I restarted VR chat, but I'm not sure what you mean in general?

[silent siren]

I presume they turned on the Avatar Overlay view to show physbones and physbone colliders

There may be a problem with the Avatar Descriptor

you can configure things like finger colliders there

[glad haven]

Yeah I have no clue what caused it. But I got something working anyhow.

[hot sparrow]

God, I wish I had like, 5-10 more megebytes to work with. I've already compressed these fucking texture files down to 154.7 kb and I just need a smidge more space to get them to fit

[raw relic]

textures aren't the only source of "large download size"

[dim cove]

try removing stuff you don't need, reducing polygon count, removing blendshapes that aren't in use, etc

[plush latch]

Is android building what you use to build for quest?

[magic slate]

Yes, quest runs Android

[limpid pilot]

and pico

i use quest

3

[magic slate]

yep, also Pico

[plush latch]

Thought so

[plush latch]

Is there a shader for Quest avatars that supports Cutout transparency?

[magic slate]

no

[plush latch]

Is there a quest compatible shader that does?

[magic slate]

is that somehow a different question than your previous one?

[plush latch]

Is there a community shader that supports it, I mean?

[magic slate]

you can't use community shaders for quest avatars

[plush latch]

blyat

[magic slate]

I do not speak that language 🙂

[jagged sequoia]

basically transparency is completely unsupported on Quest avatars as you can only use the VRchat provided shaders for Quest avatars

[plush latch]

It's "Fuck" in Russian/Ukrainian

[magic slate]

didn't say I didn't know what it meant 🙂

[minor cedar]

Опа, русскоязычный?

[minor cedar]

Попробуй Particles/additive, там 3 варианта есть, 2 не работает, а верхний и самый нижний должны работать. Я их использую как обход в прозрачности

[sage acorn]

I just finished the pc version of an avatar I’m working on and am about to start optimizing it for quest. The pc version has a hair material toggle to change hair colours, and I was wondering if that is possible to port onto quest via like a texture swap or something

Im using modular avatar rn for it but also will use vrcfury in future for some of my assets to put on

Also if there is any general advice on quest optimizing that would also be appreciated, new to this stuff

[plush latch]

I don't speak Russian, I just say blyat because it's funny.

I do have a few friends who speak Russian though, one of them is actually Russian, one is Canadian and one is Russian-Ukrainian

[minor cedar]

I am from Ukraine, I have been to Canada before

[plush latch]

Look at the sticker I sent. c:

[minor cedar]

C:

[dawn tapir]

Dm me if you can make a good avatar quest compatible

[magic slate]

Good way to solicit scammers, be careful.

[dawn tapir]

Okie idc if they scam I just Want a avatar with ability’s u might know him it’s vecna from stranger things

[arctic slate]

go to VRCTraders (link in #1204490664637890580 ) and find someone there

you're only gonna get bots and scammers like said above which wont give you an avatar

[dawn tapir]

I’ll just get them to make it first

[dim cove]

there should be avatars of him out there

try making a post in #1138520828556890214

[dawn tapir]

I had a different idea with ability’s so that’s why I want it custom made

[frosty temple]

for the custom made avatar Vrc trader is the best spot cz here there are a lot of scammers that are just after your money..

[pastel storm]

So I don’t know if my idea is kind of crazy but I’ve been on PC to some world I have free avatars so I know they are free ones and I’ve heard some streamers for VR say they are free ones too, but I had this idea even though I am not a furry, but I want adog or a cat cowboy outlaw like holsters and a hat and boots. Yeah kind of like Puss in boots, but with guns

Is that possible to find for free or no?

[steady idol]

Blender is free

[covert apex]

start a looking for thread on avatar search.

[magic slate]

or make one

[unique seal]

Can someone upload an avi for free I need help

[magic slate]

unlikely, because it's risky - but maybe if you provide details about what you're doing and where you're stuck, someone here can help you with that

[unique seal]

I just have these to models there quest and pc I can text more details if you want in DMs

[magic slate]

I meant here as in in this channel

[kind hollow]

Hey Kazin

You still up to help someone?

[magic slate]

Please don't ping me for new questions, just ask in the channel.

[kind hollow]

I… sorry…

[robust whale]

you do not need to keep posting in different channels. If you would like to commission an avatar or take your chances at someone taking it for free, you can go to the VRCTraders discord server. I will warn you though that such a tight deadline will mean it's unlikely for people to take on the project, unless you have all the models you need in question, and just want someone to put them together (as in, having the character model + wedding dress model)

Your best bet for getting something in such a short timeframe is searching for something that already exists.

[urban mesa]

best bet is to just look it up in a avatar search world and see if anyone made it already. if no one did already then it is not going to be made by Wednesday unless they already started working on it or you find someone crazy enough to crunch work on it but that'll be super costly.

[novel moth]

Where do I go For the trade thing

[robust whale]

it's not "trading" jsyk, It's "traders" as in, "in the trade". It's for commissions, so it's gonna cost money. They have a free request channel, but most requests don't get taken.

Here is the link to the server: https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1204506421631393913

[sullen swallow]

why does vrchat keep making it harder to quest convert... 😓

[dim cove]

there's no recent change from what i recall?

[mellow ore]

i need help how do i fix these and where in unity ?

[sullen swallow]

I js converted an avi, 150k tris and kt came out to 19mb…

Out of 10

I used to be able to convert avis that were 200k tris

[dim cove]

it may be the textures or animations taking up most of that space

[sullen swallow]

It isnt

Like

Something with my actual unity has changed or something

I make my own avis all the time and ive made avis w sm more

Its happening to my friends too

[magic slate]

or too many blendshapes, those take up lots of space.

[sullen swallow]

It isnt that either

I deleted all blendshapes

[random comet]

Triangles don’t relate to bundle size. Use tools like VRWorldToolkit’s build report feature to see what’s taking space

[kindred fractal]

transparency isn't compatible with quest, so I'd say check if the head has a blendshapes for quest lashes

[mellow ore]

Okay

[pastel storm]

Hey guys idk if it’s the good channel but can someone help me with the quality of the avatar

Idk why it’s like this on my friends avatars

It is because of the impostor ?

[gilded gulch]

Hi! I noticed it was like this because I didn’t turn their avatar on. If you have that on, Ill definitely use the community support here.

[pastel storm]

Thx someone helped me

[gilded gulch]

alright :)

[pastel storm]

:)

Thx

[gilded gulch]

of course!

[stoic iris]

How would I go abt rigging this ... I barely rig but either way I still wanna try ..

[magic slate]

if you want the second arms to match the first set's movements, rig both normally and use rotation constraints to on each bone in the second set to copy from the same bone in the primary set.

[stoic iris]

Mhm alrighty

[fluid spade]

can anyone send me a good video link of how to upload on quest

[little latch]

Hi! The realistic shadow ramp texture on Toon Standard is wrong, made a canny here with a workaround
https://feedback.vrchat.com/sdk-bug-reports/p/382-toon-standard-wrong-realistic-shadow-ramp

[weak basin]

Vrchat > mobile > particles > multiply

[mellow ore]

Ty!

[burnt mural]

Lol i managed to get my quest fallback avi created manually (not polytool as that looked ass)

https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/B3tXCEp5Xw5KCiZ/preview

[frail garden]

Sorry that you have a fnaf fan asking this question but why do the normals do this when I port to Android on Unity with the material Standard Lite

[steady idol]

You do the same as how you would upload pc side?

[dim cove]

i had a similar problem, i forgot how i fixed it, all i remember is that the fix made the texture memory skyrocket

[stoic iris]

I dont understand how this is not a Humanoid rig according to Unity when the APP itself is checked off as perfect

anything that is Grey is optimional so there shouldnt be any problems

[arctic slate]

pretty sure you still need a neck bone in the setup even if it isnt rigged to a bodypart

theres also 1-2 bones that'll be listed as not required but are needed for vrchats base movement set iirc so its better to just have them attached even if not actually rigged to a bodypart

[stoic iris]

I fixed the neck parts but what are the other bones that I need to connect/parent

[magic slate]

limbs down to (and including) hands and feet, hips -> spine -> chest -> upper chest (optional) -> head -> neck, and shoulder bones coming off the chest or upper chest.

[stoic iris]

it should be doing that

[magic slate]

yep, that part looks right.

[stoic iris]

then theres this part

and I didnt touch the fingers cus its all optional

[arctic slate]

id remove the jaw bone but other then that it looks good

[tropic pendant]

Anyone good at making nova beasts here ?

[arctic slate]

if you're trying to find someone to do model work for you go to VRCTraders (link in #1204490664637890580 ) and get a verified creator there

otherwise if you're looking for super specific help with the Novabeast base you might be better off asking in the Novabeast's offical discord

[empty knoll]

anyone know how to get rid of this blue tint on quest?

(this is how its supposed to look. but all quest shaders I try using puts like a blue filter over it?)

[steady idol]

remove vertex colors

[empty knoll]

how would one do so..

[steady idol]

blender

[empty knoll]

fuck

well I dont use blender so uhhh

[steady idol]

time to use it then

[empty knoll]

is there absolutely any way to get rid of it on quest? or just make it look less- blue

[steady idol]

like I said already
remove vertex colors

[silent siren]

i'm kind of surprised you can't just strip vertex colors in the model importer settings

[steady idol]

would be useful

[empty knoll]

fml

[silent siren]

you could also swap to Toon Standard, which should have an option to skip vertex colors

[steady idol]

I dont get why people are so deathly afraid of blender

[random comet]

VRCQuestTools has this function as well

[frosty temple]

it's just in their mind

[undone granite]

chat i'm confused about something

do i have to redo shaders using a different kind when i want to upload my windows avatar to quest?

[robust whale]

yes, if you are not using quest compatible shaders already then you need to switch to those to upload to quest.

[undone granite]

i was using MToon and GogoLoco

is that bad?

[robust whale]

gogo loco is not a shader

[undone granite]

well gogoloco is a controller yeah but will it give me an error too?

[robust whale]

but quest has a whitelist for shaders, you need to use one from the VRChat/Mobile category

everything in that folder except for particles/alpha blended, lightmapped, and skybox should work

[robust whale]

no, again, it's not a shader

gogo loco is compatible with all platforms

[undone granite]

oh cool

[robust whale]

it says that on the download page i'm pretty sure

most assets should inform you if it's quest compatible or not

but know that any custom shader won't be

since again, the only shaders you can use on quest are ones provided by VRChat specifically for the platform

[robust whale]

If you want to look the most similar to MToon, I would reccomend using the shader VRChat/Mobile/Toon Standard

you need to have the latest version of the SDK to get it though

or a very recent version

[undone granite]

yeah i was trying to use that but

how do i put this

[robust whale]

you need to mess with the settings to get it to look how you want

[undone granite]

the renderening type i was using in mtoon isnt on the other one

[robust whale]

right, it's not going to look the same

but it's probably what will be the closest

can you show me what your avatar looks like with MToon?

[robust whale]

alright give me a second

[robust whale]

set the shading to custom, I'm going to send you a texture to put in the shadow ramp slot it gives you

okay put this in your project and then use this as the shadow ramp texture

also set the shadow tint setting to 0

@undone granite

[undone granite]

i'll try

[robust whale]

let me know if that works

oh I will say quest doesn't really support transparency btw

so your eyelashes might not work

but if they happen to be on their own material slot, you can use the shader VRChat/Mobile/Particles/Multiply with a black texture

although it won't fix the other transparency issues

the best solution for the transparency issue is to go into blender and cut out the transparent parts using the knife tool

[robust whale]

the knife tool can sometimes mess with weightpainting and shapekeys though

i'm trying to see if there's a tool that will interpolate when using the knife tool rather than just setting all the data to 0

basically what happens is that when you create new vertices with the knife tool, blender doesn't know what to do with them so the data is reset to 0

[undone granite]

I’m like, more concerned about all the black spots that would be gone if the renderings style was cutout

I’m not sure what it means tho anyways

[robust whale]

right, that's what i'm trying to help fix next

you need to actually cut them out in blender

but that can create issues

some i'm trying to see if there's a tool that fixes those issues

[robust whale]

@undone granite after looking around this was the best solution I found

the idea is that you DONT do this ^

but something like this

so you're always connecting two edges

this can still mess with custom normals

but it should keep your weightpainting and shapekeys intact

@undone granite let me know if you need any help with this

[undone granite]

Sorry I disnt see the notification

[robust whale]

you're fine dw

[undone granite]

the problem is i dunno much how to use blender

so i have no clue how to go about doing this

[robust whale]

• open blender
• go to file>import>fbx
• find your unity project folder and select your avatar's fbx, then click import
• *click on the mesh you want to edit and press tab
• press K to use the knife tool. It's just point and click to define the edges, then space to finish the cut
• make sure to follow the instructions i gave before with the method you cut so that you don't create any issues on the model
• when done, press tab again, select another mesh to edit, and press tab again
• repeat these steps (from the *) until finished
• in unity, duplicate your fbx (you can rename it something like <name> quest)
• look in the inspector and click "model", then check if it says 1m (File) = 1m (Unity) or 100cm (File) = 1m (Unity)
• in blender, go to file>export>fbx
• select the new duplicate file, and go to the settings panel on the right
• go to the armature section, and disable add leaf bones. If your file said 1m (File) = 1m (Unity), switch the Apply Scalings setting (in the transform section) to FBX All. If not, keep it at All Local
• click export

[brittle dirge]

(I'd like to make a note that the Blender add-on "Unity FBX Exporter" makes those last few steps just a single click)

[elfin scarab]

Are physbone components on quest being lowered to down to 6 from 8?

[steady idol]

no?

[wanton scarab]

I don’t think so no

[flint forge]

Where did you hear that from?

[elfin scarab]

@wanton scarab @steady idol

[steady idol]

thats the performance rating limit

[elfin scarab]

Just log into quest, and check any avatar details,
it used to say 8/8,

It was 8/8 before, not 8/6

Same thing for physbone transform,
used to say 38/64, now it read 38/32

[flint forge]

Which are the max for being medium or better.

[silent siren]

yeah, you get 8 components and 64 transforms for the Poor rank

6 and 32 for Medium

[robust whale]

no, it's always said 6. The "max" is the maximium for medium ranking

[silent siren]

ah, that makes sense

i always wondered how it picked the number

[steady idol]

medium rank in the name being the recommended midway point of optimization

[sonic canopy]

what does lightmapped do? why its in vrc mobile if its not useable for quest?

[random comet]

It's for worlds

if you're using it cause your avatar looks like the correct color with it, look into removing vertex colors from your avatar either with VRCQuestTools (Unity Script) or Blender

[flint forge]

It supports baking lights in worlds, it has no reason to be used on an avatar.
If you are using it because all other ones look wrong then remove vertex colors.

[fresh silo]

Anyone do rigging and that shit for free??

[frosty temple]

I don't think so anyone will do it for free

[arctic slate]

Be wary of bots/scammers you're gonna get from messages like that

you can try your luck in VRCTraders (link in #1204490664637890580 ) but most wont do work for free

[frosty temple]

exactly

[civic ledge]

Useless fact: There are 23 shy guy avatars on vrchat that are quest compatible and 44 shy gal avatars on vrchat that are quest compatible

[frail bear]

Good to know, Thank you Goolbob2

[civic ledge]

You're welcome

[jaunty fjord]

I can make a avi for anyone I make every type of one u could want

I used to make the bad ones lol

[true burrow]

Make showdown: legends of wrestling in Vrchat

[frail bear]

Is this an offer or scam...🧐 Time will tell

But If not I would love one👉👈

[robust whale]

likely a scam

[frail bear]

Dang😔

[simple scroll]

?Tag scam

[tough atlas]

Hey ho 👋 I see you're looking for commissions.

You will probably receive DM's or friend requests from scammers now (or later) that will try to offer you their services. 😖

🚫 Absolutely DO NOT engage with those, regardless of how competent they might seem or their excuse to why they contact you.
This is unsafe practice used by scammers, and also breaks this Discord's rules. 👮

If you seek a creator, check out VRCTraders and follow their protocols strictly 🥺
(You will get DM from bot to verify your account upon join.)

🌠 It's extremely important to always DEEPLY investigate the account and social media of the person you plan to commission.
Is their social media linked in Discord? Is it legitimate? Are the references stolen? (Try to reverse image search posts to check.) 👀
The quality of fake profiles out there can be crazy good, be aware of that and NEVER engage with DM or friend requests that originate from the artist.

When in the slightest doubt, do not commission them and contact the moderators of the involved communities. 😱

[sonic canopy]

what are theese work for in standard lite shader?

[obsidian moat]

y'all make quest physbones annoying 😭 and makes my avatar look stupid from no wing physbones or tail physbones

[jagged sequoia]

those are not usable for avatars that's only for baked lighting for worlds monosh

[austere matrix]

Uh

Then why have it be in mobile

[random comet]

Worlds can use it

[austere matrix]

There should probably be a different folder for world shaders then

[arctic slate]

theres likely several canny posts about it you could go upvote, personally i wish they were in the world SDK rather then the base one so it wouldnt even show up when setting up avatar stuffz

[proper seal]

Idk if this is where I would ask but does anyone know how to get the skinned mesh renderer to work or a fix on quest? I'm trying to upload an avatar and the cloths won't work correctly since they're always visible

[frosty temple]

you clothes must be having transparent shaders that don't work on quest

[brazen quest]

https://www.deviantart.com/tal25/art/Tony-Stark-from-IRON-MAN-Armored-Adventures-1220600592 https://www.deviantart.com/tal25/art/Iron-Man-Armored-Adventures-MK-I-Model-Preview-1080856398 https://www.deviantart.com/tal25/art/Iron-Man-Armored-Adventures-MK2-Model-Preview-1160108949
https://www.deviantart.com/tal25/art/Iron-Man-Armored-Adventures-Stealth-Suit-test-VRC-1129359882
ILL DO ANYTHING

like it would go crazy

[arctic slate]

find a commissioner in VRCTraders then (link in #1204490664637890580 )

or you could make a post in #1138520828556890214 to see if someone's already made one in-game

[honest coral]

Yall know any good caine avatars that are up to date with stuff from the tadc show?
Rn the one i use is tje Baine one from prismics

[frosty temple]

you can check in #1138520828556890214

[stiff umbra]

Does anyone create avatars for other but for free?

[magic slate]

same as one of the answers right above - VRC Traders discord. But don't expect much for free.

[frosty temple]

you can try free request channel in Vrc traders but it's really rare taht artist there make it for free

[solar wolf]

could anyone help? ive tried everything to upload an avatar to vrchat but its impossible to convert it to quest

it has medium rating but every time i upload it it says pc only

[magic slate]

Did you also upload it to quest?

[frosty temple]

you avatar might not be compatable to quect it might be using the wrong shaders

[frosty temple]

is it only me or you 'also' in your msg really looks different?

[solar wolf]

yea i converted it to quest and uploaded it like normal? is there a different way to upload it to quest

ive followed every quest uploading tutorial possible i dont know what else to do

[frosty temple]

did you chaged the shaders to make it quest compatable?

[solar wolf]

i put poiyomi shaders

[magic slate]

those are not quest compatible.

[solar wolf]

what do i put then

[frosty temple]

you have to use mobile shader to make it work

[solar wolf]

how do i get that

[magic slate]

https://creators.vrchat.com/platforms/android/quest-content-limitations#shaders

[ionic lantern]

Not a single shader is standard, i checked and every single material is "VRChat/Mobile/Toon lit" can some1 help me ;-;

[half fable]

It’s in there somewhere god speed

[stiff umbra]

Yea its rlly looks dead in there😭

[magic slate]

same as the person above, somewhere you're using an incompatible shader, you'll have to find it and switch to one that's compatible

[magic slate]

if you still had the issue, you missed a material

[simple scroll]

you can report them from right click next time so we can moderate.

[stoic iris]

I uploaded this avatar to unity expecting to work with terrible rigging

But...

Omg

It uploaded perfectly

I've been saved...

I didnt have to do anything with rigging..

[unique seal]

can someone upload avi for me bc I don’t have pc and I need it done for free

[magic slate]

you can commission people at the VRC Traders discord, link is in #1204490664637890580

Remember that the uploader would need to own the assets you have too...

[unique seal]

I think I got banned from there

[covert apex]

from... the thread, or the discord server

[unique seal]

The sever idk why tho

[deep pendant]

This is a medium over on the PC version; i for the life of me cannot get it to be better so i can even upload it onto quest. It keeps saying im nearly 6MB's over the limit.

Also, it's saying there's 8 materials. there's only 5 being used.

ended up changing the textures from 2k to 1k resolution to fix it.

[steady idol]

thats literally impossible cause you have 7 meshes right there

[deep pendant]

3 of those use the same material

[steady idol]

its material slots not materials

[deep pendant]

ah

[spark lantern]

Hello hi, i need some help with physbones on my avatar.
So, after the latest update (as of september 1st, 2025), all of my physbones on quest no longer work. I'm at the limit of 64 physbones, and everything was working properly before the latest update, but now nothing will move on quest. I hadn't updated my avatar at all in that time, and re-uploading the avatar didn't seem to help. Does anyone know how to fix this?

[magic slate]

show us the SDK's build report where it shows the stats on your physbones

[spark lantern]

Here's the build report as well as my physbone setups. Its on the limit, yes, but I've never had an issue with 64 bones on quest until now

[sonic canopy]

i wish toon standard's speculer was similar to original standard shader's

i want a light over the avi without specular it makes the avi look wet even tho it shouldnt be

[weak basin]

how many collision checks? and how many components does it say? (you show 5 but maybe you missed some?)

you are looking for these stats

[ornate field]

im trying to make a custom avatar for quest and its going awful, some help would greatly be apreciated.

[lunar forge]

I could help for a compensation, send a dm

[magic slate]

ideally ask detailed questions, and beware of people like this last one, lots of scammers around here.

[ornate field]

yea i could tell this dude was sketch

[magic slate]

good

[ornate field]

But i guess my reall problem is im not sure how to take a model that im editing in blender and make it so do the things it needs to do in unity.

[magic slate]

that's quite vague, unfortunately

[ornate field]

okay, i first made a vroid model, then i brought it into blender to optimize and fix meshes (fixing the weird textures that happen due to transparent textures)
then once i try to move over to unity to upload, nothing seems to work right.

[ornate field]

okay, so at this point ive actually fixed or improved everything i can in blender (to my knowledge)

[silent wind]

Can somebody make a ralf schumacher avater and then ask the players du willst wissen wie viel dein auto wert ist?

[magic slate]

haha

[lunar forge]

😄😄

[native leaf]

Ho

Hi

[pure fiber]

hello

[native leaf]

Ji

Hi

[crimson oriole]

is there any way to see the quest version of my avatar on pc?

[kindred fractal]

To test?

[crimson oriole]

yes

[kindred fractal]

You could do a separate upload of the quest version but do it to windows if you wanna see what it looks like

[crimson oriole]

mannnn

i don't wanna do a seperate upload just to see what my quest version looks like

[magic slate]

it's pretty easy, just clear the blueprint ID and upload and it's a separate avatar. Put the old one back after done.

you could also build & test on an actual android device

[night solar]

i installed the adroid sdk stuff but i cant use it in the editor it says no module

android sdk

[oblique gate]

how does this make sense at all.

[random comet]

Quest avatars cannot use transparency effects for performance reasons

that specific shader is for worlds

[oblique gate]

ok but

multiply works??

doesn't that also have transparency

?

guess ill just use multiply.

[random comet]

that's not alpha blended

[steady idol]

multiply is multiply

[oblique gate]

what?

[steady idol]

entirely different render option

[oblique gate]

exactly but to blanks point "Quest avatars cannot use transparency effects" doesn't seem right because I can use multiply to have a transparent texture?

anyways my issue is fixed

i do not care anymore

thank yall for your time.

[steady idol]

particles are the exception except alpha

[night solar]

people said my avis textures didnt show up

only on quest

[torn moon]

transparency isnt even worth bothering with for quest

[night solar]

it says the wrong shaders but ion know how to do shaders

[wooden fractal]

Nah

[night solar]

NAH

[pure fiber]

alpha blended is harder on quest than particle shader as multiply.

i think it is just general words for easy understanding.

[versed notch]

give quest cutout shader so we can finally do this and i would love for it to work with the standard instead of using alpha blended like the last photo helps us creators make more optimized models with just the same amount of detail the pc could have but this is like yha its there but its transparent you can see through it even in the fully there parts

[pure fiber]

we must wait until powerful quest hardware. currently, quest system gpu cannot handling transparency well

[versed notch]

qwq i need it to make my avi optimized or i have to model out the hard spots out

but also im showing off a work around for my issue and im going to use this method until we do get cutout

also didnt we say that with the quest 1 is the other headsets not any better?

[arctic slate]

for the quest version you should look into the knife tool in blender

but no the currently supported headsets are not good enough to handle that many trasnparent meshes, they are better then quest 1 though

[sonic canopy]

is it possible for quest avatars to have dissolve animations?

i can swear i saw a quest avi's clothes dissolved

[kindred fractal]

dissolve is more of a poiyomi thing

[steady idol]

quest doesnt support transparency

[sonic canopy]

man i can swear i saw a clothing dissolve

[sage mesa]

In the past there were exploits that allowed transparency on quest but as far as I'm aware they've all been patched, so it's possible you did see that

[civic sky]

They are not all patched, I still ever so often see Avatar so I can go transparent and they've been public for years

[tight briar]

Life would be so much better if transparency was on Quest

🥀

[magic slate]

except your performance wouldn't be better

[civic sky]

I'm not going to lie, I don't know how people have bad performance I'm on quest 3 stand alone, I rarely get below 40
Mostly avatars I see are pretty damn high quality even the ones are transparency don't seem to affect my frame rate the same level some other ones do

[robust whale]

alpha blended does not work on quest, only multiply and additive

[pure fiber]

in this case, Quest 2 is still supported.

[civic sky]

Oh yeah I forgot they exist

[crisp narwhal]

is there no way to have transparency on quest? im usig the nova beaast model and it has a kind of lens mat over the eyes and without transparency or a way to set it invisible it will make the eyes dead ass white

[hardy rover]

You can use vrchat/mobile/particles/multiply or addictive to make stuff transparent

[arctic slate]

for the quest version of my novabeast i just removed the lense layer over the eyes, its meant to give a glossy visual over the eyes but honestly isnt needed for anything

[magic slate]

I remove those for PC also, and just do that with a shader.

[vernal vale]

is anyone here good at helping a new modeler with making avatars?

[steady idol]

dont ask to ask

just state your issue

[vernal vale]

my partner is new to modeling.. and they are having trouble with a lot of things

[steady idol]

why isnt that person here

[vernal vale]

social anxiety.

[magic slate]

see also #3d-modeling

(if it's more appropriate)

[vernal vale]

does someone here do commissions for nitro or for free? i will specifically say that my fiancee milo will be giving nitro, no scams please because I've been getting them a lot:<

[arctic slate]

you will only get scammers here, go to VRCTraders (link in #1204490664637890580 ) and try their free section

fair warning though its very very unlikely for someone to do free/nitro work generally unless its something cool to them or part of something they're into

[vernal vale]

i can't find anything that says free

[arctic slate]

its their free requests section: https://discord.com/channels/360224648132296704/439883144863154187

[magic slate]

Don't expect a lot for free though

[brave lake]

Is anyone in this server if so can you dm like an invite to it please and thank you

[brave lake]

Or any of these ones

[near scroll]

Anybody know any good shark avis?

[arctic slate]

look for existing posts in #1138520828556890214 /make your own there

[lapis jolt]

Hello, I'm looking for someone to aid me in optimizing my Novabeast for quest

I've already done a fair bit, but it still doesn't work yet

I'm at work right now, but would like to start on it at about 7pm MST

( <t:1758247246:R> )

[magic slate]

feel free to ask questions in here whenever

[young granite]

you can send screenshots here to explain when you get stuck somewhere:3

[vernal vale]

sure

[jagged sequoia]

this server is not the appropriate venue for handling commissions

[dim cove]

stop tryna scam people 😭

then how come the last sentence you spoke made absolutely no sense?
and you created your discord account a month ago
and have no portfolio or anything

how can i be a scammer when i have never offered anyone any services? 😂

[simple scroll]

Next time, you can ping "Active Chat Mod" role to deal.

[dim cove]

mb sorry

i keep forgetting to do that 😔

[simple scroll]

no worry

[versed belfry]

is there a way to deal with this with the quest shaders? the black areas are transperency on PC shaders

[arctic slate]

quest doesnt have transparency but you could take your quest version's FBX and use the knife tool in blender to cut out the hair's shape

[torn moon]

^ just keep in mind the weightpaint

https://tenor.com/view/cat-miku-hatsune-miku-ai-generated-gif-4014819104879469591

o this is old

[mystic belfry]

any other ways besides textures to optimize a booth model for quest?

[magic slate]

depends where it needs optimization

[sour lintel]

When I change a material from the default standard to standard lite, it turns black! I had no problem with the other materials for the avatar. What's up with that? Changing the albedo does nothing.

[magic slate]

probably vertex colors, the vrchat shaders use those

[sour lintel]

K, how do I fix that?

[magic slate]

I'd do it in blender, but some other stuff can, like vrc quest tools I think?

[lavish kayak]

I have a question

So basically im tryna do partical lighting for vrchat for my avatars but People can see it but i cant see it on my personal mirror

[clever hound]

I wanna have eyes and mouth for mine be images on planes. Does that work for quest?

[pure fiber]

if have transparency, not well

[pure fiber]

the quest particle shader is not working well with mirrors…

[clever hound]

Ah right yeah, quest can’t do transparency

[pure fiber]

particle shader can give effect, but not so well for a proper color

[torn moon]

it can kinda, you can do it with static images

can have different planes and use blendshapes to move them in place with the viseme parameters maybe or even take advantage of sprite type of UV layout and animate the UV's X and Y value

[clever hound]

Oh yeah I’ve seen people do that

[last vine]

hi everyone jsut quick question

how does uploading to quest work in the recent SDK

[random comet]

It's greyed out cause you don't have the android build module installed. Press Ctrl + Shift + B in your project, click the android tab, and follow the instructions

[last vine]

thank you

[molten swallow]

so im tryna edit an avi into a oc one for a friend, having changed and made custom textures of the avatar and remodeled some stuff, i tried to upload it.

In Play mode it completely turns all materials red with an opacity of 75% and idk why it does this as thats not whats its supposed to do.
Out of play mode it looks like its supposed to but the second u go to play mode it does the EXACT thing. Even in game its red and idk why nor how to fix this.. could anyone help?

Left is what its supposed to look like, whilst the Right image shows what it does in play mode and in-game

heres what its doing in a screen recording

[balmy pine]

The red is caused by vertex colors. You can remove them in blender or import VRCQuestTools to remove them automatically

[molten swallow]

actually was caused by a hue slider toggle i forgot to fully remove in the fx

but ty for the help anyway

[balmy pine]

Ah

[slow sinew]

i am under the limit of phys bones on a quest avi (supposedly), yet they do not function when i load the avi on quest what do i do about this to solve it?

it works in unity when i test it with gesture manager

[slow sinew]

nevermind i figured out the issue it was due to too many transforms 💔 I Hate Unity

[magic slate]

that's not a unity problem though

[slow sinew]

im not used to unity i just blame it for everything 💔

[magic slate]

okay, fair. It often is to blame

[ocean galleon]

Is it possible to have all the text of a book put on a avatar and be quest compatible still

Like if I wanted Harry Potter books I could read or something

[arctic slate]

depending on the page count it might be too large to be possible but readable books are possible for sure, only ones ive personally seen in-game were short children's books though

[steady idol]

Rather not have over 16k texture resolution for multiple pages each

Sorcerers stone alone has 309 pages

[steady idol]

you do know youd have to animate swapping pages at least 160 times right for sorcerer's stone

[ocean galleon]

Worth it if it works

[steady idol]

that is 309 pages that you need to have a texture for

[ocean galleon]

Again. If that would work on quest I'd do it

[amber onyx]

I don't think that would work on PC lol

[ocean galleon]

I have a idea of how to get books for pc but not quest

[amber onyx]

The VRAM usage would be insane

[steady idol]

that would be ~38 4k textures

or roughly 20 8k textures

assuming you are atlassing 512 resolution pages

the texture memory would be insane just to have it even be readable pages

[amber onyx]

It'd be more efficient to use text mesh or legacy UI text but I don't think those are supported on quest

[steady idol]

Is that even supported on pc

[amber onyx]

I have no idea lol

[ocean galleon]

Have yall seen the readable Bible on gumroad?

[steady idol]

thats pc only because it requires poiyomi

[ocean galleon]

Ye

[steady idol]

so not possible

nor should you even be trying

[ocean galleon]

Actually. What about blend shapes?

[steady idol]

my guy

that wont reduce the material count

[amber onyx]

That'll also drastically increase VRAM usage and file size

[ocean galleon]

Right

[steady idol]

thats 309 512 resolution images

[ocean galleon]

I was thinking braille typa thing

[steady idol]

that doesnt change my statement

[ocean galleon]

Yeee

Quest sucks

[steady idol]

your idea sucks

[ocean galleon]

Both can be true

[amber onyx]

As a reminder quest 2 which is the hardware they're optimizing for at the moment until it's no longer supported only has a couple megabytes of VRAM available for avatars after everything's loaded in

[steady idol]

if you are wanting to read harry potter then just get a digital pdf of the book

[steady idol]

4gb of usable for quest 2
6gb for quest 3/3s

since 2 of it is being used by the system itself

[ocean galleon]

Yall have a good one

[amber onyx]

Nowadays it's closer to to 3 since Meta keeps adding things we don't need

[tired crypt]

Hey Idk if this in the right text channel to ask this but what version of blender do I need to make vrchat avatars or does verions not matter?

[magic slate]

doesn't really matter, but I'd suggest something recent - I just use the latest.

[tired crypt]

okay thank you

😊

[wanton scarab]

Doesnt really matter but some plugins for blender can require you use a certain version. But if you’re not using those you don’t have to worry

[tardy yacht]

All of my Quest avatar issues would literally be gone if they just bumped up the avatar download size to 15mb, and the uncompressed size to 60mb. Why can't they?? Genuinely

[dim cove]

because quest wouldn't be able to handle it? i mean i thought that would be obvious

[tardy yacht]

With the Quest 3, it would be, but I guess the majority still use the Quest 2

[dim cove]

yes, since quest 2 is still supported

[torn moon]

should be no reason to even hit the limits at all

just cause theres limits, doesn't mean u should always be .00001MB away from it

people complained even when it used to be higher

[random comet]

Quest 2 has a bigger adoption rate than the Quest 1, 3, and 3s together

[desert junco]

Can someone help me find a female human night fury

There was a matching one

[magic slate]

#1138520828556890214

[desert junco]

Nvm I’m sorry!! I found it

[graceful wedge]

well ig you should delete it coz it'll attract bots

and check you dms i just sent something there

[tawdry raptor]

Yeah I realized

Imm bouta delete them

[graceful wedge]

ahh you blocked me tooo lmao i just wanted to point you towards the right artist who is working on my avi it was just to save you but np ; )

ahh they are kicked from server ig lol

🫡

i ain't a scammer guys don't gimme that look:')

[celest falcon]

Ooo so cool art of avatars😀!!

[rocky vector]

Hey is anyone familiar with the issue where you can’t close your left pointer finger on quest
Because I just wanted to see if anyone knows how to fix it or why it happens or if it’s a avatar issue or a software issue etc