avatar-quest

[full thistle]

is this referring to me?

[delicate quail]

no, the message was deleted, I responded to the same person as Fuujin

[gusty jungle]

#avatar-help message can anyone help with this???

[delicate quail]

one bone = no phsybones

make endpoint Ionger

[hoary vault]

ok im stupid im sorry

https://tenor.com/view/anime-die-dies-nekodies-nekodie-gif-21965693

[solid sentinel]

Several months ago this started, I spent a month learning Blender. Modeling from scratch. Created my own head base and events bought a body because I wanted it to match the body of a free avi I got... Weeks of unity goes by with me not doing anything... 4 days of Tutorials, 5 breakdowns and finally I GOT IT IN THE GAME WORKING.

I wanted to make an avatar designed to look good on quest since that's how I play... Finally my work payed off. This is how they look on both PC and Quest.

[still pivot]

Testing out the Toon 2-band shader—even after fixing the mesh normals, the shadows still look weird most of the time. Is that just how the toon shader works? Sorry, this is my first time creating an avatar.

in another world

this is using flat shader

[kind fern]

Don't think I've ever seen this issue on quest shaders before, though I don't have enough experience to definitely say

[still pivot]

Its the new beta toon shader for quest. I dont think is the shader problem, i think thats just how toon shaders work?

[kind fern]

oh no wonder

[still pivot]

It looks ok for certain angle, it really depends the word lighting.

[kind fern]

might be worth reporting on the canny

[magic slate]

you'll get scammers here - go to the VRC Traders discord, link is in #1204490664637890580

beware of scammers DMing you very soon 🙂

[pure fiber]

looks amazing! i hate that you’re not getting enough recognition for this, amazing job!!! ❤️🔥👏🏻

my quest avatars would honestly be good or above performance, if the triangle limit didn’t exist…
i like having outfit toggles

[solid sentinel]

Thank you 😭

[magic slate]

okay...?

[pure fiber]

i didn’t mean to ping you for that 💦

[magic slate]

'sokay, I'm here 🙂

[raw river]

So like- one of my avatars is completely broken, but only on Quest. It’s a Vaas Montenegro avatar by SlimJim9000. It’s fully blacked out, but on PC he looks normal. I don’t have a pc, but my friend does

[pure fiber]

this is likely because of a loophole that vrchat fixed that previously allowed unsupported shaders to be uploaded to quest.

[raw river]

I wish that I knew how to get ahold of the creator to see if there’s a way he could fix it. I used it for roleplay a lot

[opaque fox]

Is there any reason an avatar would be unavailable to build as fallback even when every metric is Excellent?
Switching build platforms doesn't seem to fix it. Windows says to switch to Android, both Android and iOS say it's unavailable. Restarting the editor doesn't seem to have any effect either.
Found the fix. Disabling other avatars in the inspector makes the button visible.

[rich grove]

Why can't I use the expression wheel in PCvr, is it some sort of setting? I can bring up the wheel but when I flick towards expressions, it doesn't open up

Please @ me

[arctic slate]

Why're you spamming this everywhere, you dont even acknowledge/respond to people asking questions or giving suggestions

[rich grove]

Because I need help. No one is helping me. I've been at this for hours

[arctic slate]

Nobody can help if you wont explain the issue any clearer/answer their questions nor will people respond if you're spamming the same thing across multiple channels and breaking the #rules

like someone asked if it was happening on one model or multiple models, or you were also asked if you tried to press trigger when selecting things in the expression menu (since you may have turned off flick selecting)

[flint pine]

tips to avoid this?

also could 2k textures be able to be used on quest if it fits the overall size limit

[steady idol]

sure?

[robust whale]

• change your interpolation settings
• make use of detail maps + tiling and alternate UV channels
• pack your UVs well

[flint pine]

Cuz it's only due to the format for the quest override being anything other than 4x4

[mighty stratus]

Hey. Is there any quest-compatible shaders somewhere that resemble glass closely enough that I can download and use in Unity?

[arctic slate]

quest doesnt support custom shaders iirc + you shouldnt multipost :P

[flint forge]

Assuming you mean for a World then
https://s-ilent.booth.pm/items/2336731

Most glass shaders will be using grabpasses, which don't work on Quest, this one isn't.

[magic slate]

yeah absolutely use this if you mean for a world, it works well

[prisma crow]

I'm trying to upload an avatar for quest but I'm getting the error Avatar validation failed. I'm not sure what's causing it. I used VRCQuestTools to convert it if that matters

[magic slate]

post the first 2-3 errors from the console. errors are red.

[magic slate]

there's nothing above those? hmm

oh - so yeah you're doing a Quest avatar but you can't use Unity constraints, you have to use VRC constraints.

you should be able to convert them in the "three dots" menu on the components themselves

aha, or read the message - it says to click auto fix 🙂

[prisma crow]

Well the SDK panel should give me the option to just click auto fix, but it's not there

[magic slate]

I guess you can do it manually then

[prisma crow]

Thing is I checked every single contraint in the quest avi's hierarchy, and they all had the VRC Constraint component on them already

[magic slate]

seems like there's one still there. Perhaps on a VRCFury prefab?

Gogo Loco?

[prisma crow]

I checked that one as well, still same error. Even after deleting all the extra prefabs from the quest avi that would contain constraints, I'm still getting the same error

[magic slate]

without seeing your project there's really nothing more I can tell you

[prisma crow]

Anyone know how to solve this?

[acoustic talon]

is there a way to cutout eye specular stuff on quest avatars?? with the vrc mobile shaders

because everytime i delete the eye specular mesh in blender and try to upate it. it breaks

figured it out i used the alpha blend texture

[flint forge]

The alpha blend shader is for Quest worlds, it is not allowed on Quest avatars.

[magic slate]

post the first 2-3 errors, this one by itself just says "something broke"

[acoustic talon]

did a dif one and realized

[prisma crow]

I figured it out. I had an asset on the PC version of the avatar that would apply upon upload, but I forgot to set it up the same for the quest version

[magic slate]

ah, yep

[broken cove]

Hi

[pure linden]

heyo

[shadow lark]

Hello! does anyone how to a seperate toggles for quest? that it doesn't change into other clothes in the PC version?

Like, its only stuck in its default settings, and that its- even the PC version changes clothes!

[steady idol]

just use a separate fx layer?

[shadow lark]

Oh! I didn't thought of that, I'll try it later. Thank you

[soft igloo]

The VRCSDK just allowed me to upload an avatar to android that is definitely NOTTT optimized. I have like 20 physbones out of the 9 allotted, and it uploaded just fine. What's happening?

[delicate quail]

*8 allowed

and it would upload yes, but it will delete all physbones

if phsybones are still present in game, it could be a bug and you should report it

[soft igloo]

8, my bad! Good to know. I'll probably test it out in game and see if they've been removed or not. I've never had this issue. I just wanted to check the upload size to see how much optimizing I needed to do. I didn't expect it to upload

[delicate quail]

yeah, that's what it does. It says so in the sdk panel "you have too many components, we will delete everything"

[soft igloo]

Ahhh okok, thank you

[fair bane]

Will there be any sound avatars for quest in the future?

[jagged sequoia]

Unlikely to ever occur because it's expensive on the mobile CPU

[steady idol]

Not in the slightest

[wide field]

i wish they stopped me from uploading if i had more than 8 physbone not deleting it.. so annoying

[arctic slate]

i mean they do give you a warning in the SDK upload panel if its over the permitted limit

[pure fiber]

why would they stop you?
it’s not as if physbones will break the avatar’s performance as much as something like read/write disabled. (which does stop you)
but they do tell you about it in the sdk errors

[wide field]

Bc i missed the error and spent a lot of time finding the reason why my avatar was acting weird

[pure fiber]

always read your sdk errors carefully 😊
(because you really shouldn’t have any, they are errors for a reason)

[cold musk]

How do i fix the "Avatar uses unsupported shaders 'Hidden/lilToonFurTwoPass'?. Im trying to upload an avatar with new clothes and hair but idk how to fix the errors

[magic slate]

swap out that shader with one that's supported. This is usually covered in any "convert your avatar to quest" tutorial.
Or use a tool like vrc quest tools, which should handle this for you

[cold musk]

im not sure which shaders are supported. How do i find out

[magic slate]

it's in the docs, of course!
https://creators.vrchat.com/platforms/android/quest-content-limitations

[cold musk]

i think im slow bcs i cant find where to download them...

[magic slate]

you don't download them, they're included in the VRChat SDK

[cold musk]

The LilToon doesn’t work or smt on my avatar. I’m using the Mamehinata booth model

[magic slate]

That's correct, it's not a supported shader

[cold musk]

Idk which one is supported for that model and quest

[magic slate]

the ones in that doc I just linked ^

most likely in this case you just want to use the newly-released Toon Standard in the VRChat folder

[cobalt arch]

might be a stupid question, but i gotta make sure, the outlines on the new shader are removed opon uploading to quest. but disabling backface culling is functional on quest, right?

[flint forge]

Patchnotes say outlines is replaced with normal shader Toon standard in game, nothing is said about backface culling but yeah, should be.

[golden sparrow]

Yeah outlines are not coming to quest as that effectively doubles your vertice count

[normal cloud]

you can easily make an outline in blender if you really want one

[delicate quail]

if you want to comission go to VRC Traders #1204490664637890580 , and beware of scammy dms you may get.
And when it comes to creators it all depends on personal taste

[supple oak]

@delicate quail Thank you! I just joined the server. Do you want me to delete the post?

[delicate quail]

that's your choice, i'm just warning

[supple oak]

@delicate quail yeah, I've already gotten a few. I appreciate it

[magic slate]

wow that was fast

[delicate quail]

yip

[pure fiber]

matcaps are a fake it option

[weak basin]

There is a post about this, you can upvote it here https://feedback.vrchat.com/sdk-bug-reports/p/sdk-allows-quest-uploads-over-the-physbone-limit

[robust whale]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/sdk-bug-reports/p/physbone-component-error-on-android-build-target-validations-not-appearing
This post I made earlier is reporting this same issue

[oak ledge]

how do i see people worn my avatar

[magic slate]

?

what do you mean?

[oak ledge]

im trying to restate this uh

like how do i see my avatar that was favorited by other people

[magic slate]

you can see some stats on the website

[oak ledge]

like how

[magic slate]

ah, not that I guess

[oak ledge]

i just wanna see how many people that has my avatar and who favorited it because i sssee bunch of people that worn my avatar without my permission

[magic slate]

is it a public?

[oak ledge]

yes public avatar in my private world

[magic slate]

then you have given permission

[oak ledge]

dang it

[magic slate]

public means public

[robust whale]

i wish we could see

just out of curiousity

i want to know how many people are wearing/favoriting my avatars, just like i can see with worlds

[magic slate]

yeah that seems a really useful thing to know

I know it doesn't mean a whole lot but if you make or find a canny, I'll +1 it.

[oak ledge]

i hate it when people has my avatar

[magic slate]

then don't make it public?

[oak ledge]

but my two friends need the avatars tho

[magic slate]

give them a package they can upload

[oak ledge]

alright

[magic slate]

you don't really have another option

[robust whale]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/feature-requests/p/public-avatar-favorite-statistics

i found this post already made a while ago

gosh it's old though

from 2021

[magic slate]

yeah I'm pretty convinced anything that old will be just ignored

[robust whale]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/feature-requests/p/toon-standard-emission-mask

I also created this post recently, not sure if they'd add it but it would be nice

could be used for things like pixel patterns, or masking emissions in areas using the detail map

[oak ledge]

It would be better for Unity (VRChat) if, when you upload your avatar and it appears in the Content Manager, you could simply drag and drop it from there into the scene. just like uploading a fbx avatar

[magic slate]

surely it's already in the scene if you uploaded it though?

[oak ledge]

i did but i deleted the other avatars

[magic slate]

that's a strange thing to do

[cold musk]

is there anyone that can upload my custom Mamehinata for me? it doesnt work when i do it and idk how

[magic slate]

account and file sharing is frowned upon. Feel free to describe where you're stuck though, perhaps people in here can help

[cold musk]

how do i fix this?

[delicate quail]

oh boy that's very bad for a quest avatar

[cold musk]

i know..

[delicate quail]

you have way too much of everything, how many outfits does that have?

[cold musk]

im trynna put new hair and clothes on Mamehinata and idk what to do

[delicate quail]

physbones are an obvious issue. If you wanna keep some physics, you'll need to limit them by a lot

[cold musk]

i have no idea about anything like that, its my first time customizing a model

[delicate quail]

I see

this isn't just a case of uploading. It's a case of making it be quest compatible, which barely anyone is gonna do for free

[delicate quail]

what method did you use to attach the clothes and hair?

and how many different hairs and outfits do you have? because you should consider making it be multiple avatars

[cold musk]

with the hair, i just deleted the original and put in the hair into the avatar. and i used modalus avatar tool thing for the outfit

[delicate quail]

everything in unity?

besides the phsybones are you getting any other errors when trying to upload?

[weak basin]

did you remove the physbones of the original hair? that could be increasing your physbone component and transform count

Another thing to know, is your project build mode in android? If not, you won't be able to use the avatar on quest as it will be uploading to PC only.

[fervent finch]

does anyone know why i would be getting an error for the unsupported shader standard after applying any sort of rig in unity?

im trying to make a quest avatar but thats holding me back

ive changed every material i need to on my avatar and yet it still gives me this error its super annoying

and another thing, i can't get it to move in-game. its just stuck in t-pose

[arctic slate]

try saving and reopening your project to see if the unsupported shader warning is just unity bugging, if it isnt then there has to be a small part of the mesh somewhere that doesnt have a proper material (click through all the meshes on the body and open the material dropdowns to find it)

the stuck in t-pose sounds like its not set to humanoid, click the .FBX and check that it isnt set as generic

[fervent finch]

i think my main issue is that the rest pose has the arms in t-pose while the legs are in a-pose. think of like a star formation.

and it probably also doesnt help that it only has 3 fingers per hand

ive given up on it for now though

i dont know how people manage to make avatars like that

[wanton scarab]

I think even if you have less limbs you still need to have the normal amount of bones in the armature even if you can’t see them. Like if you were making an avatar with no legs, you would still need to have leg bones to make the avatar work I think

Unless you make your own custom animations

[dim cove]

exactly

[magic slate]

and it's way easier to rig the full base humanoid skeleton than do a full custom locomotion controller

[dim cove]

yep

[trail oriole]

Can someone pls make more Teen Titans Ravens and a Good MK1 Ghostface plsss!!!

[woven patio]

Hi

[magic slate]

make a new material and drag it into the slot in the particle system

[covert apex]

do you might know how to make a A pose model go in T pose

[magic slate]

Please don't ping me specifically for new questions you can ask the channel

[covert apex]

ig

[viscid lily]

Where can I buy vrchat avatars ?

[dim cove]

gumroad, booth, jinxxy

[pure fiber]

many creators have avatar servers as well and you can browse their market channels

[hot sparrow]

I would like to know if there is any plan for the toon standard (outline) shader to be updated and available fully for quest avatars

And lightmapped

And particle alpha blend

[delicate quail]

That's too heavy for Quests, so most likely not.

[hot sparrow]

For outline, maybe

I'd ague that lightmapped and alpha blend could be ported over with tweaking

They already have particle additive and multiply as options and lightmapped looks like it could be done since it doesn't seem to adapt with standard lighting

[jagged sequoia]

lightmapped is only useful for worlds it has no use for avatars

[hot sparrow]

Maybe for the prefabbed human and furry avatars since they tend to be the ones that need to their models react to light. But I've been wanting to use lightmapped in certain circumstances where stuff like outlines aren't possible or avatar props that are meant to not adapt to lighting. I just find it weird and nonsensical that shades under the mobile category are just not avaliable

[jagged sequoia]

the standard light Shader has in the emissive map for making unlit materials

[gleaming badger]

So I've been having this issue with some of my Avis where when I try and upload a quest version it will upload from the SDK but on the website it will say "security checks Failed." So I'm trying to figure out possible issues with this. Cause I have my main avi that as a lot of stuff on it I could make a quest version just fine (removed some meshes obviously to do so.) meanwhile I try and upload an avi that is a simple avi with maybe one outfit and it fails the checks. Any idea what's up with that? Like what do I need to check still? I even make sure that texture size it under 150.

[delicate quail]

are there any errors in the console?

[robust whale]

Check for broken scripts in your project

That issue happened to me where every avatar I uploaded failed security checks (even very simple avatars like the default cube), it was because I had a broken script in my project assets

[bleak void]

I have been toying with this for a WHILE now, where on earth is this extra 20MB coming from????
My icons are all 128, and it’s quest.. so no audio clips.

I know that the evaluator I’m using isn’t 100% accurate to the uncompressed size, but being this far off doesn’t seem right.
Any suggestions?

[delicate quail]

blendshapes?

[bleak void]

Blendshape optimizer and AAO trace and optimize should be baking all unanimated blendshapes, but I’ll look into it.

For some reason, a texture that is set to 1024 android override and default is being called as 4098 when in play mode.

OMG I AM A DUMMY
I have a texture swap… and i didn’t adjust that texture qwq

[flint forge]

If you wanna catch those in the future then the WorldToolkit (works on avis too) can give you a list of everything included in the asset bundle after you've attempted to upload (or build and test) once.

[bleak void]

I found it with the thry in play mode, but I’ll give that a shot too!! Thanks

[delicate quail]

don't ask for DMs here, you'll get scammers. for commissions go to VRC Traders #1204490664637890580

[shy wind]

Oh ok

[worldly widget]

Yeah do you have a preference for that

[worldly widget]

Perhaps try jinxxy unless you got a desired one you wanna get or you got an idea in you

[undone mantle]

How would I go about getting to be able to hear the custom sound effects that come with avatars I'm on quest 3 and a laptop but the laptop sucks trying to run vrchat

[arctic slate]

mobile and iOs dont have access to audio sources on models, only PC does iirc

[soft pivot]

Is it possible to do like a moving watery shader on quest somehow?

[random comet]

Worlds can use custom shaders on Mobile platforms, avatars cannot

if the new Toon Standard shader has panning, you could probably pull that effect

[soft pivot]

I just wanna get this looking a bit more lively and less static.

[silent siren]

notably, a lot of water-like effects want to use a grab pass

a grab pass captures the screen and puts it into a texture

I'm pretty sure you can't use that on Quest

however, I don't think you need to capture the scene for a portal like that

[random comet]

You can use grabpass, but it makes the quest basically have negative framerates

[silent siren]

ah, okay, i was looking at older messages that said "no"

I guess it's "effectively no"

[silent siren]

you'd just need a distortion effect on top of a water texture

and a P90 😉

[random comet]

Just don't try to push a mobile GPU to do high-end Desktop GPU stuff

we still aren't there

[soft pivot]

No

[robust whale]

not perfect bc i just threw this together with default unity stuff in like 5 mins but this is with the new quest shader

it's pretty much just a normal map with animated offset and high specular

here's all the settings, everything else is default

and here's my normal map and shadow ramp if you want them

[robust whale]

this is literally just a squished unity sphere, but i'm sure you can make better UVs than that yourself

all the effect really requires is that your UVs are square and line up with the edges of the UV map (so that it tiles properly), the default UV sphere should be fine, you can use its UVs and just flatten it and remove any extra edge loops

[soft pivot]

How do i use these?

[robust whale]

same way they're used in the settings i showed you in the screenshots above

[soft pivot]

How do i get them in the box that says normal map?

[robust whale]

and then i just animated the Y offset between 0-1 over a period of time (you can make this whatever length you want but it's 3 seconds in the clip) and set the interpolation to linear so it loops correctly

[robust whale]

click on the white dot and then select the normal map

again this is just like any other texture in any other shader

[soft pivot]

I've never used normal maps before....

[robust whale]

that or just drag it into the slot

[robust whale]

it's the same as any other texture...

just copy what i have in the screenshots

then you can mess around with it until it looks like how you want

[soft pivot]

It's not letting me

[robust whale]

from your unity assets or from your file explorer?

[soft pivot]

unity assets.

[robust whale]

idk it should work

try the other way i told you

[soft pivot]

how do i import from file explorer?

[robust whale]

drag it into your assets?

this should be exactly like adding any other texture to your material

[robust whale]

ohh it needs to be a png

discord reformats them as webp

idk how to send them as png

hold on

[soft pivot]

gonna try uploading from mobile and downloading from google drive.

[robust whale]

no i'll just send you a unity package

@soft pivot

[soft pivot]

Is there a way to make sure it's always moving whenever it's turned on, or would i need to somehow tac that on to the end of an already existing animation?

[robust whale]

you can animate it in its own layer

[soft pivot]

and how do i animate the offset between them?

-# i kinda dumb and new to unity

[robust whale]

make an animation. press the record button. set the value on the y axis to a non-zero value, then back to 0. go to the last frame you want (this will be the duration of the loop) set the value to 1. Press ctrl+a to select all frames, then right click on one and select "both tangents" > "linear"

[soft pivot]

Which y axis?

[robust whale]

the Y offset of the normal map

[soft pivot]

I'm doing that but nothing is popping up in the animator

nevermind. I got it

How do i get it to radiate from the center rathr than coming from the side?

And how do i get it to always be playing?

[robust whale]

it should always be playing

[robust whale]

like i said before, this has to do with your UVs

[robust whale]

^

[robust whale]

^

[sharp charm]

for some reason whenever I try and set up quest for my unity it gives me this error and I dont know how to fix it

[past dove]

I am trying to upload an avi and its giving me this

[covert apex]

yes yes vrchat down for 5 hours

[heavy kestrel]

Any1 got a good 2003 grievous

[magic slate]

#1138520828556890214

[left mural]

hey guys, when i upload my android avi it fails secruity checks on the windows one. i have had this issue for multiple avis now

unity doesnt give me any issue themselves. its only for the game/website

[arctic slate]

are you using the multi-platform upload option? its pretty hard to actually break the PC limits so it might just be bugging if you are and need it to be seperately uploaded

[left mural]

i just switch from pc to android and have the avis seperated

for the avi i work on rn i apperently fixed by removing gesture manager as a whole, it said it was missing something for some reason. i have it as a repository, so i have no idea why it broke it

[urban sluice]

Anyone else struggling to upload quest versions? When I switch to quest the thing is just frozen and when I can upload it always fails

[high lion]

I'm trying right now to make a Vroid Model quest compatible in Blender.
Sadly the downside of Vroid is, that it uses Transparent Meshes for Eyelashes and Eyebrows...
On PC, I just use a transparent shader on the materials and I am good to go, but Android/ IOS Avatars doesn't support transparent / cutout material Shader.

Image 1 = After I cutout the transparent meshes around the eyelash.
Image 2 = I press "Propagate to Shape" but it wont move with the Eyelid and would look bad.
Image 3 = I would play a Shapekey without "propagate to mesh" and the eyelash mesh starts to freak out.

How can I cut out the transparent parts of the eyelash and eyebrow mesh and keep it in place if a Shapekey is played without freaking out polygons and without a static eyelash that wont move with the eyelid?

[delicate quail]

tbh I just put eyelashes directly on the skin texture

[high lion]

That would need drawing skills that I don't have. Especially with those clumsy BLender Painting tools.

[high lion]

I guess the next best thing I can do delete the transparent polygons as close as possible and put the same skin color like the face as background for those polygons that I can not delete, because they touch the Eyebrow/eyelash texture.

But that's only my plan B if there is really no option in Blender to cutout the eyelashes with the knife tool without loosing the shapekey or making it glitch out.

[bitter shale]

does anyone know how to fix this shading issue? Whenever i put vrchat > mobile > Standard lite
it becomes this, although without the shaders of vrc it normal...

[magic slate]

what about it needs fixing?

[bitter shale]

the shading? It doesn't look normal

[magic slate]

it's not the best angle but it doesn't look that weird to me, I guess.

[bitter shale]

?

[dusky niche]

Maybe go into blender, go to edit mode, select the parts that don’t look right, then go to mesh, normals, set from faces

[gritty bridge]

its vertex colors

[pure fiber]

this is not possible.
if mesh altered, must again shapekey.
this is because shapekey use vertex position.

[severe pecan]

Why do some of my toggles not show up for others but show up for me?

[magic slate]

maybe they aren't marked "Synced" in the avatar parameters list?

[severe pecan]

They indeed are

[magic slate]

are you and the others both using quest?

[severe pecan]

Yes

[rugged ferry]

I need help fixing this please!

[magic slate]

start by showing us your build stats

[rugged ferry]

No idea what that is...

Can I dm you?

[magic slate]

no

[rugged ferry]

Okay then.

[magic slate]

When you go click on "build and publish", it's the list of problems just above it

show us that list

[rugged ferry]

It published fine...

Its just when I click to change into the avatar, it says security check failed

[magic slate]

Yes, that happens.

[royal ridge]

-# lurk

[magic slate]

?

[rugged ferry]

And it just gives me the robot

[magic slate]

yes

[rugged ferry]

So how do I fix it?

[magic slate]

I asked for more information, can't help without that.

[rugged ferry]

Look... Im extremely new to this...

I have no idea what your talking about.

[magic slate]

When you go click on "build and publish", it's the list of problems just above it
is there a part of this that's not clear? I'm happy to elaborate.

[rugged ferry]

Nope, like I said, it publishes fine...

[magic slate]

...

Once again, screenshot that thing I'm talking about and paste it into here.

[rugged ferry]

Sure thing one second...

[rugged ferry]

You mean like the review alerts?

[magic slate]

Yes.

[magic slate]

yeah... I'm not surprised the in-game checker rejects that

there's no real "smoking gun" but it's overall very very poor, it seems sometimes those get flagged

[rugged ferry]

How can I fix that?

[magic slate]

optimization

[dusky gate]

kazin, I've uploaded worsely optimised avatars then that. giving this dude the wrong information isnt going to help him lol

[magic slate]

I said "sometimes" not "all the time"

I don't actually know what the criteria is and neither do you

But if you know exactly what's causing it, please share with the class.

[dusky gate]

apologies, I stumbled over that
even then tho, i see a TON of avatars way worsely optimised then that and theyre completely fine

the only time I've had error bots has been when it's failed to load

[magic slate]

Yep, same - but they've updated their server-side checker more recently too

it seems more things get flagged than used to

[dusky gate]

switching in and out of it, or re-uploadimg i think

then again the only times I've experienced it recently, jusr switching out of the avatar fixed it 🤷‍♂️

oh, I also missed the part where it is the security check. probably is the polygons. apologies AGAIN it is 2am.. sigh

[magic slate]

been there 🙂

(go to sleep!)

[rugged ferry]

I just want someone to call and screenshare... Im a visual learner...

[dusky gate]

I think the only time that ive personally experienced a failed security check was when I had my mesh set on calculate or something

[rugged ferry]

Once someone teaches me, I wont need help again.

[dusky gate]

thing is tho we dont really know lol

best bet is putting it in blender and decimating it

to lower the poly count

[rugged ferry]

Ive never used Blender...

[dusky gate]

or just optimise it in general,

[delicate quail]

have fun learning or spend money on unity tools

[dusky gate]

there is a paid tool that decimates in unity but

I am not a fan

[delicate quail]

same

[dusky gate]

ive used it and its super wonky...

[delicate quail]

I like the control blender gives me

[dusky gate]

honestly following a tutorial on optimising a avatar shouldn't be hard. worse case you can TRY to optimise what you can in unity

i know it seems daunting but if you're working on avatars it's honestly a great skill.

or you could pay someone to do it, but don't ask here

scammers and stuff

[delicate quail]

ye

VRC Trades

better place

[dusky gate]

id also help you over VC, but like I said it is 2am and im going out of state tomorrow sob

[drifting tusk]

im trying to upload an avatar for quest but i get this error

[magic slate]

You need an actual android device plugged in to do "build and test" - perhaps you meant to click "build and publish" instead

[drifting tusk]

You may be right

[frozen marsh]

Lol what

You can't just build an android build ?

[magic slate]

?

[frozen marsh]

For example I want to build an android build and then put it in the asset bundle website to analyse it

Can't do that without an android device plugged ? xd

[magic slate]

I don't know, but the build and test button requires the device to test

[manic moth]

wow that new multi platform build override thing doesnt work at all
told it to upload the quest and pc versions of my avatar and it tried to upload an avatar that wasnt even enabled in the scene

[dark narwhal]

Is there a way to make Quest compatible ESP?

[steady idol]

Not really no

[vast cliff]

When my head gets too close to someone else’s avatar, it disappears, how can I change that ?

[quick geyser]

Go to menu(press ESC) > settings > confort and safety > disable personal space.

It should solve your problem

[fresh leaf]

If that doesnt it might be a bound box problem in Unity.

Pretty sure there is tools to automatically do it

[vast cliff]

It worked thanks

[quick geyser]

You welcome

[cloud flint]

ok so im not sure how to fix this. my rex model has an eye lens and it breaks when i change it to Toon Lit. how do I fix this.

[trim pulsar]

🤧 would anyone know how to make a gif reset before and after an animation plays? I want my toggle to play the gif while audio plays but it desyncs since the gif is always playing

[flint forge]

That requires transparency and there should be a Quest version of that avatar somewhere that you should use instead, but ignoring that, swap over to VRChat/Mobile/Particle/Additive

It is very cheap and basic transparency, but you shouldn't need much.

Ideally you should get rid of it

[cloud flint]

Perfect, I fixed it. Thank you 🙏🙏🙏

[faint mist]

how do i fix this bs with the lashes?

[brisk ibex]

Pretty sure those are meant to use a transparent shader, im guessing this is for quest which means you will probably have to use the mobile multiplicative particle shader if the eyelashes have their own material slot. I would recommend just not using anything that has to be cutout with transparent shaders on quest because they usually don’t look good though.

I’m pretty sure the additive and multiplicative shaders are the only transparent ones that work on quest due to how simple they are, but I don’t think they work well for cutout

[wanton scarab]

Multiplication can actually be quite versatile if you use it in the right situations. It’s really good making black textures visible, though if anything has colour to it you’re gonna want something behind it to act as a background otherwise it looks rlly bad. I’ve used it on a good couple of my avatars and saves me having to cut out stuff in blender, though because those lashes stick out it might not give the look you want in all directions. Honestly depends on what you prefer and if you want to put the time ab effort in to cut it out yourself

[umbral flower]

i got a question what shaders is the one to give lighting to avatsr? matcap or lightmapped?

[delicate quail]

lightmapped is only for worlds

so I doubt it's that

[umbral flower]

alr

[delicate quail]

and if by lightning you mean emissions, I know Standard Lite has it and the new shader they added has it too

[umbral flower]

idk it i mean like

if i was in a world and i want it to light up my avatar, i usually used toonlit, but now idk what would light up my avatar if theres light in the world

[astral scroll]

Didnt that just get patched??

[brisk ibex]

I’m pretty sure those shaders are lightweight which is why they are supported

[astral scroll]

i thought vrchat got upset because it wasnt being used for what it was supposed to be used for

[umbral flower]

how do i make a texture glow quest side aswell?

[steady idol]

emission

[native yew]

I was trying to convert Anza to quest but she is bigger then the sky blocks on quest end. I couldn't figure out for the life of me why she is so big. I did use pumpkin tool to move over the descriptor and everything.

[magic slate]

make a cube in Unity, set it scaling to 1 on all axes. That is 1 meter. Scale things accordingly.

[native yew]

in unity it seems about right

[magic slate]

She looks a little short, but that's not unreasonable

[native yew]

yeah she is a tiny avi lol

[native yew]

Nvm solved

[dusty yoke]

ive been trying for the past maybe 10 or 20 minutes to get my avatar to quest support but i think im missing at least something because i still cant make it for android

[teal echo]

you gotta go to unity hub, go to installs, go to all, click the gear in were you see the unity version click add modules, go to platforms add android build support, if you already have it installed then idk whats wrong, maybe the vrc sdk version but I would have no idea.

if you don't exactly get it then feel free to add me and we can dm or if you really need help we can call.

[dusty yoke]

Yea something is definitely wrong then since I have that installed

Maybe vrc just got beef with me or something

[deep sparrow]

dose anyone know how to make world constrants for quest avi

[magic slate]

I answered that one elsewhere

[teal echo]

do you got vrc companion??

[regal phoenix]

is there any way to remove texture backgrounds for quest within the shaders available

[flint forge]

There is no shader on Quest capable of doing that.
The closest is the particle shaders /VRChat/Mobile/Particle/Additive and Multiply (alpha blend is for worlds, is not allowed on avatars), but at best all you can really do with them is make som basic looking glass.

[topaz sapphire]

I don't know which ones the right chat

But

Can we Ban this avatar

It's making my friend crash

Every time they load into the game

[robust whale]

none, you should report the avatar in-game

[craggy kraken]

Is it true that they removed the ability for the particle shader to render transparent mesh for quest?

[brisk ibex]

Is that someone’s profile?

[brisk ibex]

I’m pretty sure the alpha blended shader was never supported on quest, but the additive and multiplicative ones should be

[kindred fractal]

Yeah, it was patched. Still works for particles and blush + glasses on occasion

It just can’t be used for full on transparency like fishnets n stuff anymore

[robust whale]

you can also use detail texture for this

detail texture can use alpha channel to basically make it a 2nd layer

easiest way to line it up right is if you use a 2nd UV channel for it

[kindred fractal]

Ouu good to know

[red hearth]

Heya, I'm trying to optimize my avatar for Quest, but I dont see where to download/activate the android support. I completely uninstalled Unity 2022.3.22f1 and went through the install wizard again and it never gave me the prompt for selecting android support that ive seen in multiple youtube videos. Is there a way to enable android support after installing?

[delicate quail]

Build Settings

select Android after you click that, there should be a download button

[red hearth]

Imma try that now!

Looks like this may have been what I needed! Ty!

[wanton badger]

hey i would like to know if anyone knows the name of the avatar in this video i know this probably isnt the right place for me to be messageing if its not please tell me where to ask

https://www.tiktok.com/@murdercrumpet/video/7459149543238585646

[magic slate]

#1138520828556890214

[wanton badger]

ok thank kazin

have a good day

or night or afternoon

[magic slate]

evening!

[severe mauve]

i have zero clue about how to create an avatar but i found a model in vrchat that i kinda wanted to use. only issue is that it was pc only. is there a way to make it so I can use it and have it show on my quest?

[shell salmon]

Nope

You have to make it quest compatible in unity

[severe mauve]

What makes it incompatible? Optimization?

[shell salmon]

Quest avatars are limited to 10mb max download size. So yes, optimization

[severe mauve]

Interesting

[shell salmon]

Getting an avatar not designed for quest to work on it gave me migraines. I do not reccomend it for a first time avi project

[severe mauve]

😭

I found it initially in the game but ended up finding the person who made it on sketchfab

[shell salmon]

What's the poly count?

[severe mauve]

Im not exactly sure on the number. But i think i remember around 90? One second

It doesnt sound right

[shell salmon]

90k?

90 polys is straight SNES graphics with the SuperFX chip

[severe mauve]

LMAO yeah idk where i found that number

I just vividly remember a 90 or something

[shell salmon]

Another thing is if it's using tris(please god no) or quads

[severe mauve]

Wait where would i check polygon count in unity

[shell salmon]

You wouldn't. That would be a blender thing

[severe mauve]

Oh

I have it open on blender

Cause i assumed that mightve been the case

[shell salmon]

Lmao

[severe mauve]

im assuming by tris you mean triangles right 😭

[shell salmon]

Yup

[severe mauve]

917 triangles

[shell salmon]

Well the limit for quest is 20k polygons

So it's well within quest limitations

[severe mauve]

the model i found from the creator is the same one that the avatar i found uses i believe so why is it pc only i wonder

[shell salmon]

Uploader may have just been lazy shrugs

[severe mauve]

dang

does it take a lot more work or something

or they were just THAT lazy

[shell salmon]

Not really if the poly count is that low

Dm me the stuff for the avi, I'll see if there may have been any reason it was pc only

[severe mauve]

probably used it for themselves and they might've been pc user so they didn't care

ok!

[shell salmon]

Can't get to it tn

[severe mauve]

that's fine

[shell salmon]

Okie :P

[severe mauve]

will be helpful either way

ill send it soon give me a bit

[hard hill]

I need help finding this avi

[steady idol]

#1138520828556890214

[severe mauve]

😭

[robust whale]

i don't get that at all 😭

some random guy said he loved me and he thought i was pretty because we watched a movie together after like an hour of knowing each other

i told him i was gay and he didn't even care.. idk why he would call me pretty either, he doesn't know what i look like so i was just confused

[pastel storm]

Do we have scrollable textures yet?

On quest, obviously

[robust whale]

yes, we have had that forever

texture offset

[pastel storm]

Wait really? I've always tries to find it but i never could, not on quest materials

Glad we have it now though

[pastel storm]

I take it these parameters can be animated?

Thanks for showing me!
I do not know how i missed it x_X

[robust whale]

Yes!

[pastel storm]

Alright, now we're cooking!

Thank you so much!

[zinc lake]

Anyone know how UPM works with git url? I'm trying to add compatibility to my editor tool. Nevermind figured it out, just needed meta files.

[brisk creek]

where do i go to complain about issues with the quest toon standard shader? the detail normals dont follow the detail mask 😦

[robust whale]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/

for reporting bugs and requesting features

[brisk creek]

thank you!

[sweet dock]

How do i add outlines on quest?

[brisk ibex]

Usually this is done in blender by having a slightly wider version of your model that is entirely solid colour but with inverted normals to make it part of the mesh, this works but can essentially double the triangle count

Im not sure if there is any way to do that with shaders

[sweet dock]

the problem with that is i don't understand blender much

[ashen quarry]

guys....i have that problem
that hair not move realli like stone its the Problem from PhysBone?

[delicate quail]

if you have more than 8 physbone components they'll all be deleted. Check the warning in the sdk

[rustic bough]

Need help with asset that has weapon for it to work

[west iron]

will cubemaps ever be available for quest? Curious since im unsure how much it affects the actual size of the avatar.

[severe mauve]

i tried searching it up but didn't really find anything

what exactly does this mean

or like, where can i get this abd

or install android sdk

[severe mauve]

well i found out the solution

was able to upload avatar in the end but

weird stretchy model

[robust whale]

cubemaps for what..?

cubemaps are just a texture type

[west iron]

well what do you think

metal and sick reflections

[robust whale]

well in that case that would have to be added as an option to a shader like toon standard. You can always make a canny post

https://feedback.vrchat.com/

[wooden fable]

Probably not gonna get far with this but is there any way to mask smoothness on Quest without using another material slot? I find it crazy that we can mask details (which doesn't work actually) but not smoothness. Unless I'm missing something.

Relieved to say that you can actually mask smoothness with the Metallic alpha layer! Whew, that's a relief. Wish it was more obvious though.

[robust whale]

detail mask works fine for me

[wooden fable]

I'll try again. Was definitely not working for me earlier, but let's see.

Ah, yes, it's working! I did not realize it has to be an alpha mask so that's why it wasn't working earlier. Now I just have to figure out how I'm supposed to combine it with my emission map to keep things optimized.

[robust whale]

it doesn't have to be alpha

none of the masks do

like none of them have a specific channel they have to be

you can set the channel per-mask yourself

[wooden fable]

Where? I don't see that.

[robust whale]

if you are on an old version of the sdk it might not show up

this wasn't part of the initial features

[wooden fable]

What shader is that? I don't see this

Oh, right I do need to update, let me do that real fast

[robust whale]

toon standard

[wooden fable]

What the hell, I didn't even know we had this shader 😭

So many options. Thank you so much for englightening me.

[robust whale]

this is a new shader that was released about a month ago iirc. It's got many many new features!

one i highly reccommend taking advantage of is the custom shading

it allows you to use a shadow ramp, which is amazing for cartoon, anime, or painterly style avatars

[wooden fable]

I see that! I was so frustrated with the old shader that I usually would just put on Matcap lit. But nevermind. I already see it's leagues above. I mean are you serious, we have access to Matcaps AND the normal shader features???

[robust whale]

yep! and you can combine these features wonderfully with masks :D

[wooden fable]

Yeah, I love making a fairly complicated poiyomi setup, and now most of that can be converted. Still no decals though but that's alright, I'm not gonna complain about such a great upgrade.

[robust whale]

most of the features people would have on cartoon avatars would need to be separated into separate materials (flat lighting, cel shading via matcap, and emissions) and now all 3 are available on the same shader with masks! I was able to reduce my avatars' material slots a whole bunch this way

[robust whale]

detail textures can be used like decals if you need

[wooden fable]

Hmm, true, but I am using a detail normal map separately and it would pull from that mask

Guess I could sacrifice that tiny detail for it to be used like a decal. Basically the blush I use on the avatar is controlled with a decal so it's normally not possible on Quest. But now it could be.

[robust whale]

yeah, that's the only downside really, but you can use it that way with some UV and texture tricks

I actually did exactly that on a recent avatar (detail normals and blush)

[wooden fable]

Oh wait you're so right, I literally have the blush on a separate UV anyway

[robust whale]

what I did was move the UVs for the non-blush area to a separate UV tile and then set the texture to clip

since it has fully transparent edges that prevents it from applying to the wrong area

[wooden fable]

I'm not used to having choice with the quest shader 😭 Also, I just noticed rim lighting? Can't that be used as a sort of faux outline? Finally a way to not double tris on Quest, right?

[robust whale]

unfortunately not, unless you want a white or light colored outline

there's no choice in blending mode, so black = no rim light :/

although you could use a matcap for this purpose

[wooden fable]

What do you mean set the texture to clip?

[wooden fable]

Oh true

[robust whale]

the import settings in unity

instead of repeating beyond the borders it clips

wrap mode

tha'ts what it's called

sorry clamp

i think clip is the blender term 😅

okay set the wrap mode to clamp

[wooden fable]

So let me try to understand because I'm having trouble wrapping my head around it, your normal UV map stays the same. But on your blush UV they are put into a separate UV tile?

[robust whale]

yes

you could do this on one UV map as well

[wooden fable]

And then what texture is set to clip? The blush texture/mask?

[robust whale]

yeah the blush texture

[robust whale]

i just had a secondary UV map since the detail normal map needed different UVs from the main albedo/normals

[wooden fable]

Oh so your detail UV is also on the blush UV then? Because that's where I'm seeing a potential issue with how I set it up

[robust whale]

yeah they'd have to be

also the detail mask is always UV0 for some reason

not sure why you can't change it

[wooden fable]

Aw what? But the detail texture actually uses the separate UV?

[robust whale]

yeah

weird choice imo

i think every map should have a UV channel option

[wooden fable]

Yea, I wonder why they did that

[robust whale]

i also wish we had an emissions mask

maybe kinda niche use case but it could be helpful

like single channel mask + color map

same as details

[wooden fable]

I don't see why it's needed. I just painted everywhere I didn't want emissions to be black.

[robust whale]

details

and options i guess

you can mask different sections of UVs to create options for which area has emissions

[wooden fable]

Ah. Right.

[robust whale]

you can tile the mask to create patterns with a low res texture

keep both textures low res

[wooden fable]

I'm also just now seeing the fact that you can use RGB masking. I could cry

[robust whale]

for example you want to mask the detail map from emissions so the shadow areas aren't fully bright

you could use separate UVS for this and tile something like a fur texture

low res fur texture and low res colors

way more optimized

you could also tile a small square mask to make a pixel effect with your emissions

if you set the tiling to be the same as the emission map resolution

[wooden fable]

Ohh, that's really interesting

Something I'm noticing is that the smoothness (gloss) looks a lot different than the Standard Lite shader. Is there a way to better replicate the effect from that shader instead?

[robust whale]

maybe increase reflectance?

[wooden fable]

Toon Standard vs Standard Lite

It's at max on the left

It looks more like clearcoat than smoothness

[robust whale]

hmm

i'll play around with it

increasing metallic might help add contrast

[wooden fable]

I tried that too but it's not really the effect I want

[robust whale]

also maybe increasing the normal map

or actually decrease reflectance

not really sure tbh

here's a similar sort of texture i was able to get

[wooden fable]

Oh right, my detail mask wasn't tiled properly. That helped a lot, and I'm happy with it now. Still confused why it washes out the colors though.

Seems like I have to compromise a little, but it's a small enough difference that I'm okay with it.

[robust whale]

well black is going to reflect more if it's fully glossy, so decreasing reflectance might help

like a shiny black car for example, it almost looks like a mirror

[wooden fable]

Yeah, it does help a bit.

[robust whale]

these are my specular settings and the normal map is set to 3

1 actually looks fine as well

normal map set to 1

not seeing a lot of color washing here

[wooden fable]

It's still color washing for me a little even messing with a bunch of settings, I can't get it super shiny while also not making it kind of gray. But it's fine honestly, the difference isn't big enough for me to really complain about.

[wooden fable]

@robust whale I hope you don't mind me pinging you to ask more about how you get the blush to work on Quest, feel free to ignore if not. Anyway, I'm setting this up and coming to a bit of an issue. How do you get the detail normal to not also go onto the blush area? You have to mask both for them to both show up, but that means the blush also has normals, at least in my case. Or did you have a use case where it was okay to also have those normals on the blush area?

I found a super scuffed workaround for now, but it definitely messes with shading a little. On the blush UV map, if I make the UV island for the detail normals super tiny, then I can tile the detail normals to something outrageous (1000), so they're imperceptible on the rest of the blush but look fine on the area I want the normals. But it's so scuffed that I kind of feel bad for doing it, lmao

[robust whale]

my use case the normals were supposed to be on the blush area

but honestly that's a good solution

quest compatibility means scuffed solutions 🤷

[wooden fable]

It's okayish. The problem is that the normals look fine but it doesn't blur like a mask would, it just abruptly cuts off where the UV ends. So you get this sharp edge unless your texture lines up perfectly with your topology :') But I think a small adjustment to just remove this one quad from the UV should be.. acceptable.

[wooden fable]

True. I'm just happy I found a way to have both the normals and the blush.

[robust whale]

since the mask always uses UV0 you can use UV1 for the normal map and albedo and have the blush UV1 be super tiny, but use a regular mask and UVs on UV0

this is where the tile thing could come in handy as well

have the blush and nose (and any other areas that need to be masked into the detail maps) on the main tile, then have everything else moved over to another tile and set the wrap mode for your mask to clamp

depends on how your UVs are set up, you may not have to do this

[wooden fable]

I don't think it's necessary, but overall I don't want to mess with it too much since this seems to be working fine for now. My main focus is on the PC version and I want the blush to have good resolution there, so editing the UVs too much to stray away from that would make updating it harder in the future.

[robust whale]

ah yeah that's fair

[wooden fable]

Thank you so much for helping me out with this by the way, wouldn't have even realized there was a new shader in the first place nor how much it can do without your help :)

[robust whale]

of course!

[ocean galleon]

are there any shaders that are quest compatible capable of creating an outline

[flint forge]

No.

Closest is with matcaps but mesh needs to be built around it.

[steady idol]

you need to double your tri count in order to have outlines on quest

[ocean galleon]

theres a new outline one

VRChat/Mobile/Toon Standard (outline)

[steady idol]

its pc only

[flint forge]

It gets replaced with the non outline version in vrchat.

[ocean galleon]

bruh

[frosty glen]

does anyone know if theres any shaders that can make things like tails fluffy looking without having to use blender? I'm new to unity & all that fun stuff still and I've been trying to find a way to make an avatar's tail fluffy without needing to use blender since my laptop crashes everytime i open blender... If not, I really hope that in the future there's a "fur" shader for quest! (apologies if this isnt the right spot to ask this question)

[robust whale]

no, other than just using textures

[steady idol]

quest already cant have transparency so thats not going to happen

[robust whale]

the shaders on quest need to be whitelisted, so you can only use:

• toon standard
• toon lit
• matcap lit
• standard lite
• bumped diffuse
• bumped mapped specular
• diffuse
• particles/additive
• particles/mobile

if you want the textures to look fluffy, you can use toon standard or standard lite to use multiple maps for texture:

• Albedo (colors)
• Ambient Occlusion (shadows)
• Normal map (changes the "shape" of the surface in terms of lighting, but doesn't actually change the model)

there are other maps available, but these are the most important

you can also try using a detail albedo and normal map with a noisey texture or the same normal map but tiled more in order to break up repetition

here are some variations on a fur texture from poiyomi, as well as a noise normal you can use. These are rather large textures (aside from the noise normal) so I would suggest setting them to a lower resolution

[upbeat lava]

Could someone with A LOT of knowledge of seting up custom avatar from blender to Unity help me. If bought a base off of gumroad and recoloered in in blender but idk how to import it to vrchat. And I have no idea how to use unity

This will be to import this avatar into quest

[frosty glen]

thank you!! ill definitely try the textures out

[paper urchin]

Heya!!! I have an issue I cant fix and need help with :( Basically I am importing my avi from PC to quest. Everything worked out, but now I struggle with this!
I added the shader "VRC/Mobile/Particles/Multiply" but my model still turns out like this when I upload it. But in Unity it looks normal and okay. Any help? :(

[magic slate]

exactly what part are we trying to fix here?

[paper urchin]

the sunglasses are supposed to be see through

[magic slate]

you can't do alpha transparency on quest

[paper urchin]

and the blue tint on the face

[paper urchin]

i know! i changed it to multiply

but it still turns out weird on my end

[delicate quail]

i mean, it makes sense that shader wasn't made for this

[paper urchin]

so particle shaders in general dont work? :(

[magic slate]

they're for particles

if they work on something else it's a bonus, but don't expect much

[steady idol]

quest doesnt support transparency

[paper urchin]

i see

that sucks

but whatever. thanks for the help! :)

[sweet dock]

Can anyone help me with my avatar?

[delicate quail]

just say what issue you're having

[bitter shale]

I need help, so I'm trying to do a drop world object toggle and it won't work at all.

for quest specifically.

[sweet dock]

the issue im having is that i have no idea how to make my avatar have a talking animation

especially since the top lip is connected to a bone

[civic sky]

I keep on hearing people say this, but I have a lot of avatars that have transparency. So it doesn't make any sense to me

I've also seen quite a few avatars that are completely transparent too

[steady idol]

its not intended in the slightest and each bypass gets patched out

[civic sky]

I'm so confused because I've had the same Avatar with glasses that are transparent for over 2 years

[steady idol]

the devs have made it very clear several times that quest does not support transparency whatsoever

[ocean galleon]

im trying to create outlines on a model by having fl flipped normals on mesh. usually id just use solidify modifeir but i cant rely on it for anything with blend shapes. are there any alternatives that could work instead

shft+ d + normal flip doesnt work too good

[robust whale]

use solidify modifier + apply modifier with shapekeys addon

or just alt+s on basis

shift+d, flip normals, alt+s to scale. Make sure you have mirror editing turned off

[ocean galleon]

i just added the addon do i have to select things outside of using the modifeir now or is the addon automaticly used

[magic slate]

modifiers apply to just the one mesh they're on, but (in most cases) to the whole mesh.

[ocean galleon]

i know that part but i never used the shape keys addon before

[magic slate]

oh that just applies the modifier

because you can't normally apply a modifier to a mesh object which has shape keys

[ocean galleon]

so basically the shape keys addon wont help with use of new modifeirs?

[magic slate]

I'm not sure what you mean?

[ocean galleon]

https://blender-addons.org/shape-keys/

[magic slate]

oh - this isn't what I thought Sunshine was talking about, okay

this is what I use: https://github.com/przemir/ApplyModifierForObjectWithShapeKeys

[ocean galleon]

ye im trying to add an outline to a model that already has shape keys

[magic slate]

right, so the one I linked can do it.

[ocean galleon]

awsome thanks

for some reason i cant add it but it says it doesnt work well with things that change the vertice count

[magic slate]

yep, it doesn't

[ocean galleon]

an im trying to use solidify modifeir

i would just dupe the body of my model but that makes proportions weird

[ocean galleon]

hat i need is a mesh inflator

[magic slate]

scale with alt+s?

[ocean galleon]

yee that works with simple shapes but not with a body

like a head has a obvious center but a torso u got the hands an legs that create issue

cuz it focuses on center on the object instead of just expanding the mesh as a whole

like the solidify modifeir

[brisk ibex]

Isn’t that exactly what the shrink/fatten tool does though?

Are you using the shrink/fatten tool or the scale tool?

[robust whale]

things that change the vertex count between shapekeys won't work, just make sure each shapekey has the same amount of verts and you're good

[robust whale]

yes, shortcut is alt+s

[robust whale]

scale with alt+s

that's different from just s

[brisk ibex]

I’m confused because they said they did that but it didn’t scale on the normals lol

[robust whale]

s = scale
alt+s = shrink/fatten (scale along normals)

[magic slate]

yeah I was wondering why that wouldn't work when I said it too

[ocean galleon]

didnt know about alt+ s

that worked

[magic slate]

we did say it specifically 🙂

[ocean galleon]

well im dumb

missed it

[magic slate]

it happens. Glad it works though!

[ocean galleon]

thanks yall

[stone bone]

this is hard to explain but how do i get the lines not to be on my avi its making it hard to properly place stuff

like bro

[magic slate]

one of the options above the Scene view controls what's visible in the scene, including the grid, it looks like a # mark

[quiet tree]

okay so I'm having an issue that is persisting between entire different avatars/unity projects/bases i can upload any of them to pc just fine, but if i upload a quest version it will build and upload fine but it makes the avatar unable to use in game due to "security checks failed" all three of these are the exact same unity project just different blueprints,

[quiet tree]

a completely blank avatar project with just a cube also fails security checks im just completely unable to upload any avitar for quest platforms

[robust whale]

when this happened to me, it was because i had a broken script in my project

i'm thinking the sdk things it's an attempt to bypass restrictions so it flags it

[pastel storm]

"Too Many Avatars"!? It's okay, I found a fix to the bug:

- 1. Open their profile like you are going to friend them. Ensure you have "avatar shown".

- 2. Select the upper right hand corner square. Shows the bigger profile for more settings and options.

- 3. Scroll down to "Avatar Details" and select.

- 4. The avatar model on the right will load and so will your friend. :>

[robust whale]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/feature-requests/p/sdk-381-beta3-shadow-mask-for-toon-stanard

this would be such an awesome feature

[thorn harness]

Anyone know why my textures look different when I use shaders made for quest?

[arctic slate]

if its not meant to be red or green check the model for vertex colours in blender

[magic slate]

head over to the VRC Traders discord to commission artists, you'll just get scammers here.
Link is in #1204490664637890580

[glad portal]

So lately I've been seeing these avatars, that somehow has real time toon on QUEST

Looks like something straight out of poiomi
If there's any way people are achieving this, let me know ;w;

I want to add this stuff to my characters too

[robust whale]

new shader called "toon standard"

[glad portal]

Yeah I just checked the announcements

[robust whale]

came out a while ago now though, surprised you haven't heard of it, it was big news

just make sure your sdk is updated

[glad portal]

Well I haven't been able to join the server in almost a year, so I never heard about it until now

But now that I know I'm definitely updating my SDK :D

By the way I have one question

[glad portal]

Can I update avatars made on the older SDK with this?

[robust whale]

yes, just update your sdk

[glad portal]

Thank God ;w;

[robust whale]

well as long as it's not sdk 2

[glad portal]

I literally broke one of my projects trying to find this thing bro

[robust whale]

you can migrate to sdk3 from 2, but that's a bigger hassle and should've been done a looonng time ago if you haven't already

like years

you can't even upload from it anymore

[glad portal]

I don't know what version of the SDK I have but I know for sure it's definitely updated

So it shouldn't be that hard to get this one

[thorn harness]

How do I find and deal with Vertex Colors?

Sorry for my 2 day late reply

Was busy with other stuff

[arctic slate]

in blender, select the mesh you're wanting to edit and under object data properties (the green icon) find the Vertex colours dropdown and remove any that might be on the mesh (by using the - button)

generally you dont need/want them on a model in the first place unless iirc you're wanting to use 0 textures

[thorn harness]

Not seeing that property

[arctic slate]

ah which blender version are you using?

[visual trout]

Can I commission someone to make me an avatar. Pm me looking for (eboy) creators

[magic slate]

you want "Color attributes" there

[magic slate]

head to the VRC Traders discord, link is in #1204490664637890580 . You'll get scammer DMing you around here.

[sinful cradle]

Whenever I upload my quest avatar, the emissions just get ignored

[steady idol]

Dont try to bypass the shader restriction

[sinful cradle]

Wdym

[steady idol]

You need to use the vrcsdk and mobile shaders

[sinful cradle]

I am? I'm using toon standard

[steady idol]

Latest sdk?

[sinful cradle]

yep

Its done this multiple times in different projects

[steady idol]

Animate the emission on

[robust whale]

are you in a bright world?

[icy trellis]

Yo im looking for some desert eagle assets for an avatar as well as a hi smith and wesson five hundred magnum

[magic slate]

#1138520828556890214 probably

[sinful cradle]

For deagle if you can you can extract the one from CS2. Its probs somewhere online too. I use game assets all the time

[magic slate]

ask specific questions, provide lots of information, don't ask to ask.

[frozen lintel]

Is there any mobile compatible shaders apart from the default ones in unity by any chance? Would love to have more variety in my avatars

[magic slate]

No, you can only use the ones listed here:
https://creators.vrchat.com/platforms/android/quest-content-limitations#shaders

[minor cedar]

I saw a translucent shader on someone else's quest avatar, how can I achieve something like this? I use particles/additive on my avatar, but it shines too much

[manic ore]

Particle shaders, just the different settings

[minor cedar]

on someone else's avatar that I saw, the blush was clear and pink. And mine is too shiny and light. I don't understand how to make it not shine so much 🤔

[manic ore]

For blush I use the multiply particles shader, it makes it darker

[minor cedar]

Okay, thanks 🙏🏻

[minor cedar]

sorry, when I put this shader, the blush becomes too transparent and shows through the avatar's head

[manic ore]

Not sure what you mean by that

[raven tapir]

play with the actual texture different colors will be more or less transparent depending on if you are using additive or mutiply particle shader.

[robust whale]

Another way to use a blush texture would be to use the toon standard shader, and then put the blush in the detail texture.

[minor cedar]

Thanks!

Now I want to ask, I'm asking this again without understanding how to do it. I'm talking about render queue, I need the avatar's eyebrows and eyelashes to show through the hair. I'm using toon standard shaders, but there isn't even a render queue field... What should I do?

[robust whale]

Unfortunately it's not possible to do on quest

[minor cedar]

Okay, thanks.

[red ether]

hey so im trying to upload an avatar, i got the pc version uploaded. i jsut casnt figure out the quest opne. i have android build support but it wont let me chose android as a publish option

[delicate quail]

did you try restarting unity

?

[red ether]

yes a few times

ive also reinstalled the android module too

[delicate quail]

correct unity version?

and can you post a screenshot of the android build support being added?

[red ether]

its version 2022.3.22f1

[delicate quail]

and in sdk Quest is grayed out?

hm

[red ether]

this is what it shows when i go look at the options

[delicate quail]

that's very weird

can you go to build settings and switch to android there?,

[red ether]

it doesnt work from there either :/

[delicate quail]

is there a download button there?

maybe

[magic slate]

likely you didn't install the android build tools

[burnt mural]

^ This. This should usually be selected if you downloaded unity and stuff via VCC. Otherwise you can go into your unity hub and install the missing platform there.
I'd have to check what i had to select

[delicate quail]

on the screenshots it shows as installed that's why I'm confused

[mystic rapids]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[ornate wharf]

Did quest add audiolink? I was in YTS and placed down the ref cube and it seemed to have audiolink? anyone know abt this??

[dim cove]

maybe broken scripts

[mystic rapids]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[robust whale]

Quest doesn't have or not have audiolink. Audiolink is shader-based, and only certain shaders are whitelisted for quest avatars (so no audiolink on avatars). Worlds can use any shader that works properly on android (so worlds can have audiolink on quest), while other features, such as stickers, emojis, and items, have 1st party (aka made by vrchat) content, meaning they can do whatever they want, and have used shaders for them on quest that wouldn't normally be allowed. Also, items are different from avatars, and while they use udon/soba (same programming language as worlds), it's unclear weather UGC items will be allowed to use custom shaders on quest, or only whitelisted shaders, and whether or not that whitelist will be the same if it exists. My bet is that we will have the same limits as avatars, or be limited by how many material slots we can have, but regardless the VRC devs can put whatever shader they want on them since.. they are the devs.

[ornate wharf]

oh thanks

[brazen steppe]

i know people probably ask about this often, but is this ever going to be supported? the error message makes it sound like it's intended to be supported or maybe i'm doing something wrong. Multiply and and Additive both work from the same location so it doesn't really make sense. (but alpha blended looks the most accurate)

"Avatar uses unsupported shader 'VRChat/Mobile/Particles/Alpha Blended'. You can only use the shaders provided in 'VRChat/Mobile' for Quest avatars."

[manic ore]

I could be wrong but I heard someone say that shader is for worlds only

[brazen steppe]

oh yeah, that sounds right

although... worlds will upload with any shader for quest with a warning

[flint forge]

It is not intended to be supported, they are only an optimized shader for worlds.

I think the reason why they haven't changed it is because the shaders are included in the base SDK and therefore they can't change it easily, things would break if they move the location.

[brazen steppe]

ah ok, ty guys

[hot sparrow]

I wish to ask if vfx graphs are supported on quest avatars or not

Just need to make sure before I pour the next few weeks in learning it and I don't want to check, as it is 3:24 am and I am not reopening my laptop just to check

[sonic canopy]

Will toon standard have more options in future?

Id do many things for cutoff or transparency 🥲

[magic slate]

what do you mean "vfx graph" exactly?

[delicate quail]

for quest that will never be possible

[boreal tulip]

Do anyone know how yo fix that avatar grainy Graphics on meta quest 3. I have not been on vr in a long time. I remember that on meta quest 2 it wasn't like this. Please help.

[magic slate]

are you seeing someone's fallback?

[boreal tulip]

Im not sure

[magic slate]

look at their nameplate, it should say clearly

[boreal tulip]

yes

[magic slate]

You'd have to show their avatar then, to see the full version. If one exists.

of course, at the expense of your performance.

[boreal tulip]

so how do i fix everyone to be decent quality avatars all at once without going to one by one

[magic slate]

you don't

[boreal tulip]

thats crazy

[magic slate]

Very Poor is blocked by default on standalone headsets, since it's a major performance concern

like leading to just crashing your headset

[boreal tulip]

it never used to be like that back when was just meta quest 2 before 3

[magic slate]

Yes it did, this hasn't changed

possibly you were seeing fewer very poor avatars then

[boreal tulip]

Weird, when i played it then i never had those things

thx tho

[flint forge]

Not those things, instead you were seeing people's fallback avatars that rarely looked anything close to the avatar they were actually wearing.

[magic slate]

oh right - impostors probably didn't exist then

[slim galleon]

How do I reduce contact components

Not sure what I even did to get that many

[raven tapir]

you dont need to its within uplaodable limits

[gloomy gust]

Anyone know the name of this model if so please dm me it or dm me the files

[delicate quail]

#1138520828556890214

and don't ask for DMs here, you'll get scammers

[brisk ibex]

If they are the weird glitching avatars then those are imposters, not fallbacks, but they have a similar role, im pretty sure if an avatar is PC only the closest you’ll get to seeing their avatar is through the imposter

[fringe zenith]

Any1 know any good fnaf??

[magic slate]

#1138520828556890214

[gloomy gust]

Gotta fucking love it when people gate keep avatar models then get pissy when u out them and then block you for it

[steady idol]

if its a private model I wouldnt call that gate keeping

like you arent entitled to anything just because you want it

[magic slate]

yeah I felt like I missed the context there

[gloomy gust]

Iv literally seen that exact avi on some avi worlds a d had it plus i saw it on a couple website like two months ago (cant find it for the life of me tho) sooooo

[steady idol]

then why arent you using those if its the exact avatar?

[gloomy gust]

The public got poofed and like i said cant remember/find the avi online

[steady idol]

sounds more like a ripped version that got deleted

you also said you "called out"

[steady idol]

like was it a whole you asked the creator for the avatar they said it was private then you got pissy and "called them out"

[magic slate]

there shouldn't be anything wrong with a creator keeping an avatar private.

[robust whale]

I had someone rip my public avatars (???) And threaten to dox me over having private avatars/doing private commissions

I think he did it just to piss me off bc he ripped a commission I did (idc) and a public avatar of me/my sona (I also don't care)

He said he hated all avatar creators that made private avatars

[magic slate]

what, because all content should be free for the taking? what incentivizes creators then?

I find those people are also not the type to be a patron either. so F them.

[magic slate]

#avatar-general message

[minor cedar]

I found a legal way to increase the amount of physics simulation in the quest avatar. To do this, you need to use rotation constraint on adjacent bones and bind them to bones that have physbone, so bones without physbone will be able to simulate movements. I think this technique is great for hair

[robust whale]

I use this on capes. I typically have one physbone chain in the middle, and then a chain of bones on either side. Then these side bones are constrained to their respective bone from the middle chain.

[pale cloud]

I keep getting this error, but there doesnt seem to be any other options for shaders

[magic slate]

The material on that object is the one embedded in the model file and so can't be edited. you'll need to make a new one, with a supported shader, and drag it into that mesh renderer.

[pale cloud]

ahh ok ty

[worldly magnet]

Don't rip avis gang. Asking for the files ain't it. Ur looking for the model and creator

[gloomy gust]

When did i talk about riping

[worldly magnet]

U asked for the files gang

That goes against tos 🧍

[gloomy gust]

Ok so basically what your saying is all the websites like gum road jinx VR models etc are against tos too

[worldly magnet]

You asked for the files to the avi not the link two different things

[gloomy gust]

Not really bc most models are free or at least most i like/seen

[worldly magnet]

They are pretty much two different things

You need the link to purchase the files lol

Even if the asset's or avi is free

Lol

🧍

[gloomy gust]

Against most iv seen or like are free

[worldly magnet]

Again they are who different things

If you found a texture on Jinxy or gumroad that you like you'll have to click it (the link) and you'll still have to press a button to "purchase" the files

Like you said most of the avis or whatever you like are free, but you still have to click a button to download (purchase) it

🧍

Either way @gloomy gust

It's a private personal model

"Not for sale or public"

You're welcome

[gloomy gust]

Then why have i not only seen other people have it but not only public and private but i also had a public version once

[gloomy gust]

Mind this is the third time iv said this

[worldly magnet]

That's her model, you must be thinking of a different model gang

I've seen similar ones to it b4

[gloomy gust]

No it was that exact model

Ik what im talking about

[worldly magnet]

I don't think you do

It's most likely the same base or head model you've seen

As I said I've seen multiple that's looked similar

[gloomy gust]

No it was Same everything

Body and head

Only thing different was cloths thats it

[worldly magnet]

Uh huh

Yeah no

Private custom ┐⁠(⁠ ⁠∵⁠ ⁠)⁠┌

[gloomy gust]

At this point your just getting annoying so ima just block you

[worldly magnet]

Block me all U want I'm just trying to give you the information that you can't get this avi bcs it's a custom

https://tenor.com/view/luntry-gif-26563186

[worldly magnet]

And here guys we have a corn ball

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-clapping-clap-applause-amazing-gif-16078907558888063471

[lyric cipher]

Bruv. What did I just read. Tryna explain something I totally understand just for the 🤡 to block them because they to 👶 to understand.

Yes I just filtered my words with fitting emojis...

[minor cedar]

Help please, I use parent constraint and rotation constraint for the character's dress, because I already have the physbone limit. There are two layers on the dress, how can I make it so that the top and bottom of the dress do not touch and the bottom does not climb into the top

[shy needle]

Are there avatars already built for quest bhaptics suits

[robust whale]

it was likely ripped/leaked.

if the public version is now gone, then it was probably taken down because it was a ripped model.

[robust whale]

I haven't seen any public ones, but if you have files to an avatar you would like to add it to, it's not too difficult. Here is the tutorial I followed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCtdo5_cYdk

Also, if it doesn't already, make sure to set all contacts to "local only", which should now prevent them from counting against your performance ranking.

[shy needle]

Don’t got a pc so

[robust whale]

hmm maybe try searching "haptics", "bhaptics", etc in prismic?

[shy needle]

I will

[worldly magnet]

Yea

[worldly magnet]

I found out by blue sabre that mango the kangaroo was basically begging for her to them them her CUSTOM avi for free?

[worldly magnet]

It was never public nor leaked it's a personal custom

[robust whale]

not sure how they got it then. It was either ripped or leaked, or they are misremembering. There has to be an explanation, and those are the only ones. Either they are remembering wrong, or it was ripped.

[burnt nest]

could anyone recommend any actually good avatar worlds with girl skins?

[arctic slate]

look in #1138520828556890214 or make a post there, though you may want to be more descriptive on what you're looking for

[south atlas]

can anyone give me vrc+?

[sonic canopy]

will toon standard have more options for quest in future?

i reall want the outline version work for quest too 😭

ik it doubles the meshes and ups the size but for some avis it wouldnt hurt. there are tons of avis with outlines made in blender and works pretty good on quest

[arctic slate]

it only works good if the model is optimized in a way that can support faking outlines, most models uploaded for quest barely fit within the limits set already because people do the bare minimum so its not really all that realistic of an option unless they lowered the avatar size limits even more

[worldly magnet]

They didn't get it, I've seen similar avis but not straight point blue sabre's avi

This is what blue sabre said

[steady idol]

you dont need a shader to have an outline