avatar-quest

[gentle owl]

i've lowered the quality of the textures and combined them into one material

[reef pewter]

Check the other stuff like mat physbones etc

[gentle owl]

i deleted all of the effects in the model

[reef pewter]

Show whole screenshot

[gentle owl]

of the sdk?

[reef pewter]

Anything not good or higher will not set as fallback

[reef pewter]

No of the polygons, mat, bones, etc

If you see green you are fine, if you see yellow, or red you aren’t fine for fallback

[gentle owl]

where can i see that again?

[reef pewter]

It’s when you try to upload the avatar

[gentle owl]

i'm not very experienced so sorry if i ask a few questions that might seem easy

[reef pewter]

Same menu on the sdk

I didn’t want you showing me all of the sdk just the mat bones phybones poly count etc

[reef pewter]

Anyway just whatever isn’t green is your problem for it to not set as fallback

[gentle owl]

none of it is green

[reef pewter]

Isn’t fallback ready for quest

[gentle owl]

the errors i showed in the screenshots are the only ones

[reef pewter]

I’d not worry about about fallbacks right now

Mainly because of the imposter system coming out

[gentle owl]

what's that?

i haven't really been keeping up

[reef pewter]

It’s a button you press to make a fake avatar for your avatar if it’s quest only or pc only

It’s not in vrchat yet but it was teased to be coming soon.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/587692666507100181/1139192492009455696/7d05b0d296ecd37bc39f88da7b9fe986.png

It would look like this bottom left

[gentle owl]

basically a fallback?

[reef pewter]

The circular icon is imposter button

[reef pewter]

Pretty much in a way

If you have your avatar pc only you could just have that for your avatar

[gentle owl]

what would the fake avatar look like?

it's a bit confusing if you ask me

[reef pewter]

So it mirrors your avatar

but lowers all of its issues so it can be set to a fallback state

[gentle owl]

holy cow that sounds useful

thanks for explaining

any idea when it's releasing?

[reef pewter]

No clue, it was teased couple months back.

[gentle owl]

aight, sounds good

don't you have to tick a little button that says "cross platform" to make it available for pc and quest?

when uploading i mean

[oblique storm]

When they first talked about imposters, it did sound like it wasn’t an automatic thing for every non cross platform avatar, but it does seem to be just hitting a button in the unity editor and it will create and upload the imposter of that avatar

[fluid kiln]

Posting to all avatar channels:

We've just opened up the #1139216499123437668 forum! Use this forum to make posts on specific topics and get responses in a more organized way. You can ask questions, post guides, instructions, and more!

Check out the first post here: https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1139228456090087495

These channels will remain open, but we may close some less active ones over time.

[surreal oriole]

Is there a way I can make an avatar quest but it doesn’t make it all low poly? I made an avatar for my friend yesterday and it literally looks like it’s made out of triangles it’s so ugly and has no physics

[random comet]

that just depends on what avatar you're working with entirely

[oblique storm]

It depends on your knowledge of software like blender, and the time you are willing to put in for it to look good but performant. I took an avatar from 30,000 to 16,000 polygons without any noticeable difference and altered the bone hierarchy so it would use less physbone components but keep all the same physics.

It is entirely possible to make very good looking quest content that is highly optimized, but it’s not free, it takes some work

[dense finch]

Hey! so im new to making avis and ive been trying to make one of my avis for quest too but it wont let me.. i have all the stuff needed including the avi i payed for (i got both pc and quest packages) but idk how to fix it.... if anyone can help me at all it would be greatly appreciated. ps i am alittle slow with learning so if i could be shown it would help (call would be best so i can also show my screen)

[pastel storm]

Does anybody know where to get some good Levi Ackerman avatars

[nimble prairie]

This isn’t for searching for avatars but I’d head over to the avatar search

[left oak]

Does anyone have or know someone who has peacemaker avatars

[magic slate]

Still not for searching for avatars 🙂

[next trellis]

Does anyone know what shaders are quest compatible? I'm trying to find something that looks better then toon Lit and standard Lite.

[young thicket]

Most things under the VRChat/Mobile shader section. Standard Lite, Toon Lit, and Matcap are the typical ones used.

[molten ginkgo]

you can only use the provided shaders from the SDK. Standard lite is the most feature rich, and will be updated soon to be even better. for anything realistic shaded, use that

the next best one is Matcap lit. you can use Matcaps to fake any kind of shading style you want. note that I said fake, because it's not going to properly react to lights in the environment, but is good enough for most things

I recommend matcap lit for toon shading, because you can also achieve decent looking outlines with it too

[next trellis]

Ooh thanks I'll try it out, just trying to find my options since I'm new to making avatars ^^

[lament zodiac]

i only have android and oculus quest 2, can someone please make my Roblox character as a VRChat avatar? please give me credit, like having the name of the avatar be "ashtonmccutcheon", for example. (the roblox account of mine is here -> https://www.roblox.com/users/510882820/profile)

[rigid monolith]

What’s the minimum amount of polygons for avatars on quest?

[jagged sequoia]

Is there a particular reason you're asking for the minimum amount

And technically you could upload an avatar with like a single triangle

[random comet]

if you meant the maximum, it's 20k before it gets hidden by default
https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-performance-ranking-system#quest-limits

[shadow obsidian]

hey is there a reason some of my own avatars are all white on quest? I thought it was the emission, but it didn't make a difference when i disabled it. Changing to toon lit also didn't help

[random comet]

it might be vertex colors

[formal flax]

hello!!
i'd like to optimize my avatar for quest. here are the issues related to it.
i am VERY new to unity so this makes me kinda dumb in that regard, and i have no idea how to fix these issues without ruining the model completely :(

[pastel storm]

This is good enough. I woudln't have bothered if it means any quality reduction.
Here's a few ways to decimate to get lowered to 19,999 polygons (triangles in Blender). https://youtu.be/8MkgXcidxg4?t=181
This would get you to poor, a rank Quest can use to auto-show avis. But Quest tends to turn on VeryPoor anyways, and so long it isn't an eboy/girl, it'd probably not be wrongfully blamed for any lag.
Going to medium is only worth it if you want to auto-show to Quest always (15k polygons, 1 material), but the users need to have "enable avi" on for your rank in their safety settings, else it'll just be fallback'ed and they have to turn it on anyways like they would VeryPoor. The system in place is really designed like a "you'll enable it anyways."
Materials, you'd use cats materialcombiner to merge to one. If it works badly, after having installed materialcombiner like Cats will instruct you, you can click the materialcombiner tab instead of cats, change it to automatic, and merge the materials there. This should always be a last step option, as it is difficult to unatlass. I just finish the work, then save. Last, I just atlas, get the texture, export, then turn off Blender (no saving).
Physbone transform count is also good. Physbone components you can make better by instead using one for multiple roots.
Example, if you have a bowtie root with the two leafs(?) and a hairroot with all the hair. Instead of two on the roots, you could place one on the head for both, but use IgnoreTransform in the settings to have it ignore what shouldn't be affected, like eyes.

[jagged sequoia]

also wonder if it might be a good idea to upload a fallback capable avatar for yourself so no matter what folks always see something that looks like you

[pastel storm]

I fear it'd discentify people from bothering to enable your avi, so I always wear one of the default fallbacks.
But I do wonder if fallbacks can't use toggles, It'd be more rewarding to bother creating one. I don't know how many would leave the "show avi" off in the safety settings but enable animator.
If fallbacks can't use toggles at all, it's meh. Don't want to give users any reason at all to get comfy on it, would rather them enable avis for all ranks in safety setting but use performance block on poor/verypoor if they must.

[jagged sequoia]

fall back avatars don't have a particular components disabled they're just Good ranked Quest avatars

[pastel storm]

It's strange that I've never seen anyone wearing their good rated avi and using it as a fallback, and use toggles when doing that. I guess most just don't come with it.
But if so, I can at least abandon my idea of using different visemes' blendshapes to activate toggles while humming the corresponding vowel to keep it active.

[jagged sequoia]

there's not exactly a whole lot of triangle budget left to do toggling if you're hitting good Quest ranked

[pastel storm]

Well there's other things. Hair extensions, resize hands to be giant to slap others for comedy, physbone constraints to grab/toggle items (and physbone world constraint, that's a thing now) to drop something. Chair toggles to carry others. Toggling gestures, maybe to have a "sleep" always on. Stuff like that, I like really customizable avis, and all of this wouldn't affect the rank.

[formal flax]

thank you for the help!
my avatar is a simple little parasaur with a party hat, so i don't think people are going to hunt me down for "lagging the game" x)

[buoyant horizon]

i bought an avatar from gumroad and it said it was a prefab but i cant seem to get it to work quite right..(its for quest and pc) but when i upload it to vrchat it says it cant work with my platform (quest) do i have to change it to android? im so lost rn

[oblique storm]

I am very tempted to take this as a challenge... make a quest capable fallback with a few prop toggles or something

[pastel storm]

Hey does anyone have a Jimmy payday 2 avatar?

[pastel storm]

Due to bad decisions, the avi search has been moved to somewhere that's difficult to find. But here, #1138520828556890214

[kind lodge]

Do anybody have null or mochi

[nimble prairie]

?

[pastel storm]

Due to bad decisions, the avi search has been moved to somewhere that's difficult to find. But here, #1138520828556890214

[obsidian dew]

Hi, I dunno where to ask this but...where and how can I find egirl avis with thigh physics? Or how do I make my own thigh physics in unity?

[oblique storm]

Clever rigging in Blender and Physbones in Unity. That is specifically an “and,” you can’t do it in just one

[oblique storm]

dude is very angry about the discord rework, like obviously there is some confusion but I don’t feel it’s that bad… lol idk

[random comet]

delete unused blendshapes/uvmaps

[obsidian dew]

okay thanks, sounds like lots of work and knowledge so i can't do it ;-;

[oblique storm]

Eh, bet you could

While it’s “clever” rigging, it only really takes the basics to do it

[pastel storm]

I mean, given how many asks avi questions now in avi gen, avi quest, avi help, on steam, on the reddit. It clearly wasn't the best option

[oblique storm]

idk, I don’t really notice much of an increase here

but oh well, me problem for not noticing it really

[kind lodge]

I have one named Luna if u still need one

[odd cliff]

I'm having trouble getting my particles to look good on quest, no matter what I do or what shader I use they always turn really dark black and browns

Am I just doing something wrong?

[deft saddle]

anyone know how to fix claw hands

[pastel storm]

Sure you solved it by now, but: on the animator, which is above or under the avatar descriptor on the root gameobject, you click Apply Root Motion.
The FBX needs to be set to humanoid too. Click it, switch generic to humanoid. Click configure. select head. Remove jaw bone. Save.
If the animator isn't automatically added, click add component and add one (on the root gameobject).
The gesture layer also needs to be set up in a specific way, but the SDK would have warned you if it was wrong and you surely would have posted a screenshot of it if that is the case. So that should fix it up!

[pastel storm]

If you're talking about standardlite/toonlite, then maybe. Might be an emission problem. Tick on emission, and you drag the albedo texture into that slot. Set the albedo texture to white, set the emission to gray. There's color cubes that you can click on to change that. That's a nice "natural" level of light. If you're using vrchat/mobile/particles, then you're probably not doing anything wrong. These shaders doesn't like multiple colors on a single texture, that's what Alpha Blended is for but it's meant for worlds. More screenshots, of the textures, materials, shader settings, might be needed if you want a more exact/better answer. But hope this answers it for you!

[obsidian dew]

That would be very nice can I dm you?

[kind lodge]

Yeah

[molten ginkgo]

@kind lodge make sure they send you the store link (Gumroad, booth) and not the files directly

only exception being if it's a model they made from scratch themselves, and are giving it to you for free

[odd cliff]

1 is the unity editor, 2 is PC, 3 is on quest, They are using the toon shader with a white texture on it. Would it be helpful if I got the particle system settings as well?

[hollow carbon]

how do I fix these errors?

[steady idol]

do what it says
remove physbones

[reef scaffold]

hi im trying to use vrc cc to upload avatars but for some reason i cant switch builds to android

i tried downloading it but the only way i can make it quest is if i make the project in cc than go into my unity hub and change it to android build in that version

its being weird

[misty horizon]

what all contributes to the upload size for a quest model besides textures?

i'm having issues with a model, where my total texture size for android build is only 2mb but the avatar is still 20mb somehow, i never have issues with poly accounts under 200k, which this model is just slightly above, but not enough to cause an upload issue

[molten ginkgo]

sorry, 200k for a quest model? that in itself will be quite large in size.

there are many things that can make a mesh large in size. poly count is the obvious one, but things like UV maps, vertex colors, shape keys, and vertex groups, can make it even worse

[misty horizon]

yes, i know that sounds really high and unoptimized, but with a lot of the community (i do these for commissions), these avatars can reach close to 1 mil in polys, and it's almost impossible to get them to the poly limit quest wants when they're that large, i've found 200k still goes on reasonably

[jagged sequoia]

that's still sounds way too high even for a PC Avatar

do these people not know what normal maps are

[molten ginkgo]

200k is simply too high for an avatar. at that point, you should be breaking it up into multiple, even for PC. it's irresponsible to put something like that on the quest platform. I'd strongly recommend cutting down the amount of things on that avatar

[misty horizon]

would the fbx size in itself also play a role in model size i would assume, yes?

[pastel storm]

Does anyone know the model and/or the creators name of this avatar is?

[molten ginkgo]

yes, everything

[oblique storm]

like, when we are all saying thats too big for quest, we are not only saying that cause it is irresponsible to upload something that poorly optimized, we are legit saying that is the source of your file size

I assume that is also not only one skinned mesh, in which each of those may have multiple uv maps, multiple materials, and a lotta blendshapes

blendshapes don't really contribute to file size, when you are using a reasonable amount of polygons

at even 100,000 polys you are going to incur fairly large file size increases from blendshapes and UVs alone, and that increases exponentially, especially blendshapes

[misty horizon]

took it back into blender and removed some uv maps and combined materials and all is well : D

[oblique storm]

at least you removed some of those draw calls

[oblique storm]

but im still gonna say ur doing it wrong if you "need" 200,000 polys

[misty horizon]

if i reduce it any lower than 120k polys and the meshes start morphing to a horrible degree D : the only thing that can be done is spread word to 80% of the creator community, asset makers, model makers ect to make things more optimized

me as one person isn't gonna change most of the community's ways

i was able to reduce polys down lower, it wasn't quite at 200k but it's under that now, and i've never had any quest ppl from previous conversions complain about size issues on their platform so idk ;;

[oblique storm]

I would mostly point a finger at the eboy and egirl avatar creators

[pastel storm]

Anyone know the name or what world shes in?

[pastel storm]

Due to meh decisions, #1138520828556890214 has been moved here to where it's difficult to find.

[oblique storm]

lmao, if you read what you said out loud, it sounds like you said due to your own decisions

[robust whale]

If you have like a shit ton of emotes that might contribute

Idk my avatars have like 4mb of emotes lmao

[pastel storm]

I cant even most in there

Post*

[nimble prairie]

You literally open the channel and on the bottom left you click the make a post thing

*new post

[pastel storm]

Whats the tag thing about thi

[nimble prairie]

You scroll down to pick a tag

Like the quest tag or pc tag

Etc.

[pastel storm]

Ohhh

I see thanks

[tall oriole]

question is the android player to uplod quest comp avatars is it disabled?

cause it keep telling me it is

[ashen oracle]

if you mean the button is grayed out, that might be because either the avatar you have selected, or another one in the scene, is above a performance or safety limit

[tall oriole]

no i mean it wont let me switch

to be able to make it quest

[ashen oracle]

what happens when you try?

[tall oriole]

it just says android player is disabled

[ashen oracle]

oh, you need to install android build support https://unity.com/releases/editor/whats-new/2019.4.31

[tall oriole]

T-T im sorry of a bother man this new pc is really not working with me thanks

[lofty grove]

Does anyone know what avi this is?... :<

[nimble prairie]

Ask in avatar search this isn’t for searching Avis

[lofty grove]

I'm sorry-

[nimble prairie]

Was just saying lol

[thick mulch]

Does anyone have crasher outfits

[hollow ravine]

I don’t think that’s an appropriate question for a VRC server but I could be wrong

[past shoal]

I just found out the devs are possibly gonna delete any avatar with the very poor rank and then remove the very poor rank

Can the vrchat devs really explain why they can't let us quest users have good avatars

Cause I just want to see avatars that don't look like its from the ps2

[nimble prairie]

Crashing will get you banned

[flint forge]

That is a warning that has existed for at least more than a year, may have been around since the Quest version was first released.

While the now in alpha Android phone version of VRChat doesn't support very poor, it is a whole nother matter to remove a feature from a platform entirely, so I wouldn't expect it to happen.

[nimble prairie]

Lots of quest Avis are decent atleast the ones I have

[thick mulch]

im not worried about it i didnt see it in the rules

[thick mulch]

why not its a harmless question

[nimble prairie]

That’s something yky can get banned over that’s why, crashing isn’t really tolerated if you crash people it’s stupid don’t know what ur gettin out of it dude

If you crash people you’ll just end up being mass reported ending in a van

Ban*

[thick mulch]

people were doing it and having fun i just wanna do it with my friends

[nimble prairie]

Crashing will get you banned, its annoying when people jsut constantly crash others

For quest sometimes you have to entirely reset ur headset to even get back on

[nimble prairie]

Having fun over crashing others isn’t an excuse either

[proper mirage]

happened to me

[thick mulch]

its just gonna be between me and my good friends

[nimble prairie]

Ye

[nimble prairie]

Still crashing isn’t tolerated

You do you tho dude

[nimble prairie]

You crashing eachother or you guys crashing others

[raw sand]

Let the guy crash 😭

[nimble prairie]

?

[raw sand]

He just wants to have fun

Bitta' Ban'er

[proper mirage]

anyone have good scene kid avis

[nimble prairie]

And as I mentioned you can get banned over crashing, I’m warning him

[nimble prairie]

Ask in avatar search

[proper mirage]

oki srry

[raw sand]

Yeah but that's his choice ain't it? May as well just let people do them as you said

[nimble prairie]

All good

[nimble prairie]

And as I also said I was warning him.

And idk why you came into this smh

[raw sand]

Yeahhhh but I'm sure e knows

[raw sand]

Cause you won't let the guy have any fun 😭

[nimble prairie]

Ah yes crashing is fun

💀

[raw sand]

Yeah it's funny

Cause really annoying cringe ass mf make you wanna crash everyone in the server to end their suffering

I don't do it but I laugh when it happens

[hollow ravine]

It’s also against VRChat TOS to have a crasher so you’d get banned no matter what but I wouldn’t even though I develop avatars myself

[proper mirage]

not funny but

[raw sand]

It is hella funny
Especially when you're on quest and you somehow aren't the first to crash
It's hilarious

Anyways, for such a big server this is dead I'm dipping
Bye furries

[thick mulch]

okay

[static quarry]

Is there a transparent vrchat mobile shaders ?

[topaz zephyr]

nope

[static quarry]

Well there should be

[topaz zephyr]

no there shouldn't be

there is a very good reason for it

[static quarry]

K

[mellow jolt]

did vrchat boost max avatar specs for quest?

seems like i can publish models with 14 mesh renderers

[topaz zephyr]

you've always been able to publish, they're just marked VP

[mellow jolt]

even with 14 mesh renderers?

[random comet]

there's not many hard limits for quest, besides shaders and physbones/contacts

though very poor on quest could get purged

[mellow jolt]

nice to know

[random comet]

if you want more things into detail, https://creators.vrchat.com/platforms/android/quest-content-limitations

[jagged sequoia]

Like the Android build for phones has already removed very poor avatars from being able to be shown at all

[stiff yew]

So does someone know how to stop people from going to fallback avatars and I did the the shield and whenever I try to say block poor and below or very poor and people keep saying put it on don't but it doesn't pop up

[random comet]

Quest cannot show "Very Poor" avatars at all unless you manually show the avatar

[obtuse sundial]

Are there ways to find taidum avatars for quest?

I'm new to vrchat, I just joined yesterday but I absolutely loved vex models and taidums

[noble cave]

My vrchat avatar keeps bending itself

[sharp oak]

To get around the backface culling limitation on Quest, can you duplicate your mesh and reverse normals?

cause in unity mesh seems to freak out when too close together

[molten ginkgo]

yes, you should be able to

[jagged sequoia]

Yes that would be a sensible approach

[thick mulch]

I can make crashers now we lit

[hollow ravine]

Fair enough

[thick mulch]

You want one It took me hours to make and learn

[thick mulch]

and you were super nice to me so thanks

[molten ginkgo]

you really should not be advertising to make crashers, that is straight up against TOS. there is no good reason to put those on avatars besides for being a nuisance

[thick mulch]

My fault im still new and every talks about them with the hype so I just wanted to do it for educational purposes

and to actually understand what was all the talk about

it was something something crashingg laughing coughing members so I searched 2 days to find one and he was cool enough to show me how

[pastel storm]

is anyone available to make me an avatar please and thank you?

[nimble prairie]

This isn’t the place to ask lots of scammers. And if you want an Avi made you will have to pay.

[wide heart]

#community-servers-old message This is a community that deals with avatar commissions.

Don't take anyone from this discord, as like Rainiruix mentioned, there are a lot of scammers.

[pastel storm]

Oh sorry

I'm new ti this server

[nimble prairie]

All good

[oblique storm]

even better, if you want to eventually try your hand at making an avatar, taidums are fairly beginner friendly. I am saying this from personal experience

[obtuse sundial]

Is there a tutorial video for beginners on how to recolor or etc on a model?

Idk how any of this works and I'd absolutely love my fursona as a taidum

[oblique storm]

there definitely is, and on top of it there is a whole taidum discord server you can join

[obtuse sundial]

Aack sorry!

[oblique storm]

lmao

[oblique storm]

if you want the link to the discord server you can find it on the Taidum gumroad page, or if you really want I can DM it to you

[obtuse sundial]

Yes please! Could u dm me

[tall frigate]

Hi I was wondering if any one could help me out with gogoloco

[topaz zephyr]

feel free to say what you need help with

[tall frigate]

So right now I've gotten vrc fury into the project and also gogo loco and then I go to the packages the I go to VRC fury and theres no gogoloco even though.

[random comet]

the GoGoLoco prefab for VRCFury has moved, Prefabs are no longer included with VRCF

https://vrcfury.com/gogoloco/

GoGoLoco will have the VRCFury prefab in future updates

[dry zealot]

working on it

[tall frigate]

Thanks!

[dry zealot]

you can just have an empty game object on your avatar with that script

Full Controller and add all the controller/ menu/ parameter, done

[tall frigate]

Im sorry how do I do this? if you could show me step by step?

[dry zealot]

if you drag this in your project won't it work ?

[tall frigate]

It jut turns into this

[dry zealot]

drag it in your unity

project

[tall frigate]

Okay I did

[dry zealot]

then on your avatar

[tall frigate]

Okay now what?

@dry zealot

[dry zealot]

drag it on your avatar in the scene

upload idk

[tall frigate]

I thought you new how to do it?

Sorry that sounded sorta mean

[dry zealot]

it's a prefab with the prefab setup

Am not sure this will work

in my projet it does

anyway. the new prefab be out by the end of the week, if not , am loosing money

[tall frigate]

Dang

[topaz zephyr]

xdd

[dry zealot]

challenge for me to push me

[fallen locust]

Make your name be Go Push Me

[keen quest]

Is lightmapped not allowed to be used on avatars anymore? I uploaded an avatar months ago with it and it seemed to work fine but now Unity is giving me this error as if lightmapped isnt considered a mobile shader when it is

[ashen oracle]

why would you want to use lightmapped on an avatar? You wouldn't be able to make use of the entire point of that shader, lightmaps

it was probably removed at some point because it's pointless

[keen quest]

Makes sense. That's unfortunate though, because the reason I was wanting to use it was because the alternative would be going into blender and fixing my model's vertex colors and I was trying to be lazy 😅 Lightmapped showed my texture colors how they should be shown without me having to do that

[molten ginkgo]

removing vertex colors in blender is extremely easy, it's just a couple steps

[random comet]

you could also just use VRCQuestTools if you're that lazy

[tropic river]

Can I get a tut on how to upload my avatar I made?

[tropic river]

Hey what'd I do wrong jsdjd

[ashen oracle]

Looks like it was decimated too far, or decimation was applied to the entire mesh. When doing decimation to remove polygons, you should avoid touching the hands and head too much because they are disproportionately affected

cats blender plugin has options to avoid decimating hands and head

[tropic river]

OHHH okay thank you so much

I'll remember this next time

[molten ginkgo]

for quest, it's best to delete as much unneeded geometry as possible to allow for more geometry in key areas. for example, deleting the body when it's underneath clothes

after trimming away those parts of the mesh, then you can do your decimation

[tropic river]

Is there a yt video I can follow for that?

[formal sigil]

i dont know how to make an avatar quest AND pc compatible. i can only build it for android only or pc only. how do i build it for both??

[fickle oracle]

I was about to ask somehting about this!

do you want a better version for PC, and a worse version for Quest? Or the same thing to work for both?

[formal sigil]

i want both pc and quest to be the same

same model and stuff

[fickle oracle]

make sure it fits in the quest limits https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-performance-ranking-system/#quest-limits

[formal sigil]

it does

i've playtested with it yesterday

i just want it on pc thats all

so some of my friends that play on pc can use it

[fickle oracle]

I think you gotta change the build settings to be PC, and then when you build and upload it, copypaste the same ID from the quest one

ive not tried this yet, but im starting in PC, and doin the quest one after, and I hear thats what I need to do... jus change the build and upload with the same ID

[formal sigil]

but its the same model same id anyways

so i just build it, and then build it again but android

[fickle oracle]

yeah

[formal sigil]

and it'll say pc and quest

[fickle oracle]

yup, leme know if it works lol

[formal sigil]

alr

[fickle oracle]

before u change the build

make a copy

of the project

so u have both

[formal sigil]

okay

alr i made a copy, now im gonna build the pc and quest

hope it works lol

only change i did was change the material on pc to standard and quest to standardlite whatever its called

[fickle oracle]

cool, I wonder if you even need to do that, but should be ok

[uneven oyster]

I need help about something with making an avi quest compatible

[formal sigil]

quest has to be standard lite but i didnt know if pc had to be changed

i changed pc anyways

okay, all finished. there isnt a duplicate avatar in the sdk tab so i think it worked

@fickle oracle it worked, your fine to do it

[fickle oracle]

nice one!

[fickle oracle]

whats your question? is the answer here? https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-performance-ranking-system/#quest-limits

[uneven oyster]

When I upload it. It tells me the avatar is to big like yesterday it said the maximum size is 10.00 mb and the avatar was 12.36mb

[formal sigil]

yeah thats the file size

[uneven oyster]

Am I able to fix it?

[formal sigil]

probably yeah

idk how, maybe lowering poly count

[uneven oyster]

I don’t know how to do that

[fickle oracle]

you could make the textures smaller

that would be easiest

[uneven oyster]

Can you help me when I get home from practice after school later

Bc idk how to do it

[fickle oracle]

if I am around I'll def help! but if not, hopefully someone else is

[uneven oyster]

Okiii thank you

[topaz zephyr]

You upload to one platform first, then switch platforms and upload the version for that platform to the same blueprint ID

[formal sigil]

yeah, i already did it earlier. thanks anyways lol

[pastel storm]

can someone make me a png avatar?

[wide heart]

Why not do it yourself?

[topaz zephyr]

✨Poof!✨ You're a png avatar

[frigid falcon]

Does anyone know how I make my avi cross-compatible? I'm still relativly new to this. I can only have it on either pc or quest but not both versions. Thank you!

[jagged sequoia]

you make sure about the avatars have the sameblueprint ID

[frigid falcon]

Neither have any

[jagged sequoia]

then you need to upload one of them first

[frigid falcon]

Oops, sorry lol. I'll do that real quick

Okay, I set them to the same blueprint ID now, thank you lol

It still makes both of them the same type if I try to upload though

[frigid falcon]

Now I have a new problem sorry lol

It doesn't let me publish the quest version of my avi now, I'm not sure whats wronge with it, could you tell me by any chance? Thank you!

[molten ginkgo]

you have multiple avatars enabled in your scene. disable all other avatars besides the one you want to upload

[frigid falcon]

Thank you!

I'll try that now

[frigid falcon]

It worked! Thank you so much!

[coral rose]

I need help making a personal avatar for a warhammer 40k group Im in ... can anyone help me?

[jolly lodge]

Does anyone have a Jim Morrison avatar?

[jolly lodge]

No like Jim Morrison from the doors

[heady pecan]

I have a quest and if I buy an avatar from someone how would I be able to use it on my quest? I have a pc but not pcvr

[nimble prairie]

You need a pc to upload Avis

[oblique storm]

you can watch a couple tutorials on how to upload an avatar using the VRChat Creator Companion and Unity

[heady pecan]

Thank you

[jagged sequoia]

the computer does not have to be powerful enough to use pcvr just to upload stuff with unity

[tardy cipher]

Is there no other shaders for quest

[jagged sequoia]

yes you can only use those provided shaders

[oblique storm]

you can use Standard Lite, Diffuse and Bumped Diffuse, Toon, Matcap, and particles

[rose epoch]

Hey so I’m having this weird issue where my avatar’s are not syncing toggles over pc and quest even if they use the same fx layer and parameters would anyone know why?

[wooden sable]

any way to make the skin brighter on quest without changing to toon/matcap lit? i wanna keep the emission.

[pastel storm]

Certainly not.~~ It'd be crazy to think they'd give us two emissions in the same slot, so we can put in the albedo texture there but also an emission map.~~
Poi allows it eeeh. And without it, standard lite breaks on some maps with bad lighting, and toonlite doesn't allow emission:)
No, sadly. I use the knife tool in Blender to cut away emissive parts from the rest of the mesh, and make that into its own mesh. VRC wants us to optimize so we have to unoptimize to get around it. ...Just let Quest have it as is and put a note in the expression that VRC is to be blamed

[warped lark]

Explain it in 5 words or less please

[keen moth]

Can i help me please

[warped lark]

Can you help you

[pastel storm]

Sure, I know the problem. btw where did you get the avi from?

[keen moth]

Vr model 🤷

[pastel storm]

Well that site redistributes ripped avis, and that's why you can't upload it. Most of them are redistributed broken...

It's also not allowed. You should delete the avi and not get things from that site

[keen moth]

Ok

[oblique storm]

good thing they are finally reworking the standard lite shader to not only be more performant, but also fix these issues and allow for some more advanced optimization stuff like texture packing. Until that comes out tho... you right

[pastel storm]

Yeah but they're still not adding a secondary emission. That or like Poi's minimum lighting, or a checkbox to "include albedo texture into emission" while still being able to use an emission map.
So some dark worlds make you pitch black on Quest. Yes, it's a world creator's fault. Still, only fix avi creators can do is sacrifice the emission slot: Toonlit or standardlite+dragging albedo into emission. Or go all out with the knife tool, make each emissive part into a new mesh and get punished by the performance system for bug fixing.
The changes coming won't fix this specifically, and I fear that after they push this out they'll be like "all right, we're set for the next 2 years."
Still, looking forward to make nicer metal

[oblique storm]

dang, thought they were also adding that emission slot, oh well, every other change is still welcome

[pastel storm]

Oh, are they? I didn't see that

If so, that's great news

[oblique storm]

nah, my brain just kinda assumed they were doing that as well

also in my list of things I would want

[topaz zephyr]

there were some specifics in a dev update a while back

[pastel storm]

I hope it was just a sneak peak and we're getting more
Not to be greedy or anything, I just want that I need to fix bugs

[oblique storm]

the other stuff I brought up I do know they are adding cause of that dev update

[topaz zephyr]

here it is

https://ask.vrchat.com/t/developer-update-29-june-2023/18711

I'm personally hoping toon can get emissions

[pastel storm]

I'd be greedy and want a normal map too for toonlite, if we don't get needed emission options for standardlite*shrug

the dev logs hasn't any mentions of either

[topaz zephyr]

Not sure what you'd do with a normal map on toon shader since the shading is flat :p

[oblique storm]

I personally want a few more matcap options, just so we can control its lighting a bit more

[topaz zephyr]

masking....

[molten ginkgo]

they really should have made the Matcap lit shader have a mask option, could even have been put into the alpha of the main tex

[edgy moat]

yo can someone make me an silly avatar for free?

[topaz zephyr]

✨ poof! ✨ you're an silly avatar

[edgy moat]

i seem more....silly

but no really like create me an silly avatar

my english is shitty

[nimble prairie]

You’ll have to pay someone if ur willing to pay go to #community-servers-old and find the vrc traders server

[edgy moat]

well im poor so i cant pay

[nimble prairie]

Welp no avatar then

Lots of goofy public ones

[edgy moat]

imma use the vr rat becuz he looks like an goofy goober

[pastel storm]

i cant figure out whats wrong with it

[fading walrus]

-First click on error pause to disable it.
-Clear the console by pressing the clear button
-Press the play button at the top of unity
-Show new errors that appear in the console

[pastel storm]

i tried that, everything broke when i closed and reopened unity no toggles worked or anything and the play button worked meaning the script fixed its self but its doing that thing were you cant upload until you delete something i forget what tho

[fading walrus]

Is there anything at the top of the sdk window?

[round ivy]

how come everyones avatar is hidden i always need to manually toggle their avatar in the their avatar display

[lucid quest]

Because everyone uploaded the very poor perf rating for the quest version

[calm talon]

Is there anyone that can help me with getting an Avatar under the size limit for quest? I've gotten everything set up, but no matter what i do or who i ask i keep getting "lol just use pc" and I'm very very frustrated about it

[oblique storm]

How far over 10MB are you? You can most likely lower the resolution of your textures, they are generally one of the biggest factors to file size

[ivory root]

hi

i just got the gane today and i dont know how to do avatar things

[calm talon]

About 5 mb

[calm talon]

So 15 mb

And the file has, unfortunately, more than 4 texture noodles

[oblique storm]

If you want to do anything avatar, I would recommend making an actual VRChat account instead of logging in with meta if you haven’t already, and then you need to get to “new user” trust rating by simply playing the game before you can upload anything

[ivory root]

i did

im just confused on like using avatars items

i have a custom slugcat avatar and i dont know how to change color and use tools

[oblique storm]

Might be hard to lower that without some blender witchcraft

[oblique storm]

Lmao I was about to legit recommend a slugcat base for you to start with cause of your pfp

[ivory root]

ye i have a really cool ome but idk how to change it from survivor

does it have to do with the weird menu when i hold x?

and the video i aatxhed showed off like cool colors and items

[oblique storm]

Potentially if it’s set up for that, although the process of making an avatar happens outside of VRChat in 3D software such as Unity (the game engine VRChat runs on), Blender (3D modeling, sculpting, texturing, and animation software), and maybe other stuff like Substance Painter although that one can be expensive while the other two are free

[ivory root]

ok if it is set up for that where on the menu do i go

because i checked all over the options and settings ones and i couldnt find anything

and im assuming the other 2 are for emotions and stuff

[oblique storm]

It would be holding down the menu button, X I think you said, and then going to “expressions”

[ivory root]

OG

[oblique storm]

The expressions menu is where avatar creators can put whatever they want to mess with the avatar basically

[ivory root]

i thought that would be for like emotes and stuff 😭

[oblique storm]

Well it can be

[ivory root]

ok yep it works

[oblique storm]

But can also be for toggles… and literally whatever basically

[ivory root]

yea i am rivuleting now

thxx

[oblique storm]

But when it comes to actually fully making avatars yourself if you want, here is some documentation for it:

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/creating-your-first-avatar/

And here is the slugcat base model I was thinking of:

https://ko-fi.com/s/24f7f34b73

[oblique storm]

Heck yeah, no problem, fricken love rivulet

[ivory root]

thats what i have

i changed to spearmaster without spikes and with frills because the eye marks around riv eyes are kinda strange

[calm talon]

What kind of witchcraft

[oblique storm]

Really it’s just using Blender in general but to try and reduce material slots so you can have one texture instead of four or so

[calm talon]

I'll try to take it down to three

[calm talon]

I'm sorry what?

[calm talon]

these are the specific issues i have

[fluid wind]

does there need to be that many separate meshes? if not, join them in blender. can you lower any of the texture resolutions? if yes, do so. can you combine any of the materials and atlas the textures? if yes, again, do so

you can also see about manually decimating for less polys but that count is already fairly low i suppose. if you want a poor rating at least on quest, you need to get down to 20k but i wouldnt stress

cam has a pretty good video about rebaking the textures to combine materials i believe. let me see if i can grab it

https://youtu.be/VnmYM3vkYBk?feature=shared

[calm talon]

||LMAO not that guy trying to pay artists with mfing exposure|| I'm working on lowering resolutions and poly count, but im having trouble getting the materials to actually combine in blender and actually port over to unity

also heads up, hes using a paid addon for blender. i'm making my own because im broke

[fluid wind]

yea, you can do it manually tho. its just more time consuming

[calm talon]

okay.

[fluid wind]

i think its a fairly decent starting point to look into other tutorials and fill in what you need. also what do you mean "actually combine"?

[calm talon]

so if i put the model into unity, it still separates it

[pastel storm]

don't know if you're using matcombiner, but could take a look at this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZnSO3BnoIM
I also find pay with exposure to be a tactical decision, such as if you just started out and someone offers to put you on a channel that regularly gets 50k views. So long the work is quick. I once did an avi for a youtuber with 200k. it was a free gift, I said I didn't need a callout, but they did you know thought that counts

[fluid wind]

so you have two of the same material? or what? is it on two different meshes because thatll still count as a material slot each even if its using the same material for that slot

if youre talking about what the SDK reports back in terms of performance

[calm talon]

I combined a shirt and a pants kind of asset. It is not showing as one material in unity, but is showing as one asset

[fluid wind]

okay so you just joined the meshes? were they already using the same material?

what does the material tab for that mesh look like in blender

[jagged sequoia]

nobody is going to make a model for you just for exposure

[calm talon]

they were not. I was using a custom script to add textures to it that my freind gave me.

[calm talon]

okay i figured out the material thing, now the only thing i need is polygons under 2000

nevermind.

[jagged sequoia]

that should be pretty achievable giving you only need to shave 10,000 off

[obsidian surge]

does anyone know why my avatar is constantly flicking on and off? I just updated my avatar for quest, went in home world and looked in the mirror to check it and it's in a constant appearing and disappearing

not sure if its from the recent update, so its bugged?

if anyone knows anything, it would be really helpful

[nimble prairie]

Is it jsut with that world

[obsidian surge]

I haven't tested it in a different world, but I'll try that now

that's... weird

[nimble prairie]

That’s happened with some Avis I use

[obsidian surge]

After loading in another world, it's stopped flickering

[nimble prairie]

Some mirrors just won’t cooperate

[obsidian surge]

and then I went back into the default world its working?

thats really weird 😮

[nimble prairie]

Another thing is if you aren’t cantered in ur play space it can bug out

[obsidian surge]

ohhh

yeah I almost forgot about that

how do you center yourself in quest?

[nimble prairie]

Hold down the oculus button on ur right controller

[obsidian surge]

Alrighty, thank you mate. Honestly, highly appreciated 👍
it must have been the mirror itself or the center thing because its working now 👌

[nimble prairie]

No problem

[boreal cape]

hi i have a problem, when i try converting my avatar to quest, i press the convert button and nothing happens.. im very new to this and dont know what to do, please help : (

[topaz zephyr]

convert button on...?

[boreal cape]

VRCQuestTools in unity

no response whenever i press it

[torpid mural]

Anyone know how to do transparency in quest?

I tried using a mobile particle but I can’t upload

Or it is simply invisible to them

Saw an avatar with a transparent shield earlier and questies could see the transparency, would like to replicate a working one on my avatars, currently quest users simply see nothing. The material is invisible to them.

[molten ginkgo]

you don't

transparency of any kind is considerably more expensive on mobile GPUs, so it's not allowed on quest avatars at all

[torpid mural]

Others could see through it in quest earlier

[topaz zephyr]

See #avatar-quest message

[torpid mural]

Thanks for the help, was just seeking to understand something I saw earlier

Have a wonderful day guys 😁

[pastel storm]

i’m trying to upload an avatar but i forgot how to select the poiyomi shaders, like the materials are pink and i need to switch to poiyomi how do i go to poiyomi, bc it says hidden/locked/poiyomi etc.

[topaz zephyr]

do you have poiyomi shaders imported in your project

also if you're uploading for quest you can't use poi

[silent flax]

In the quest side, is there a way to prevent a certain material slot from rendering? I don't mean it going pink or black, I mean just fully prevent rendering. Something, something, eyeball lens cap thing.

[magic slate]

for PC you could use a discard shader, but you can't for quest. I don't think there's another way short of removing the material slot entirely, but that's one-way and it'd have to be the last slot

[kind lodge]

Does anybody have or know where this is

[magic slate]

#1138520828556890214

[kind lodge]

@magic slate Sorry I didn't have the think on my list

[unreal plinth]

I need some assistance once someone is available

[robust whale]

You fake it. There are 2 ways, inverted normals and cut out shapes as part of the mesh. Both are for different effects. What are you trying to achieve?

[robust whale]

Either they faked it or they used a modded SDK which is against TOS and risks getting banned. Don't do that.

Ah actually I saw what you were asking about

You can't do that on quest

[torpid mural]

I see, so their avatar was likely with bloodborne or something.
I don't use that stuff because it's not allowed

it was literally transparent but still slightly visible, you could see through it, but it was bluish-glass

[lusty quartz]

You can make it fully invisible without getting in trouble with just vrc quest shaders > multiply

If it makes sense how I explained it

[robust whale]

Nope that doesn't work. It will upload but just turn invisible. Also only let's you upload particles with that shader

[lusty quartz]

Ohhh

[robust whale]

If you want to make something look like it's "inside" something then you can do that with inverted normals. Like for example if you wanted it to look like your avatar's head was inside a fishbowl, you could do that with inverted normals. I had a friend do that once. And for something like blush, eyebrows, or hair, where detail was created with transparent textures, you can cut those out so they are detailed in the mesh instead of the texture.

Inverted normals are also used for outlines on quest

[pastel storm]

yea i got it figured out

and im uploading a quest avi rn but it said error saving blueprint

is that bad whats that mean

[rich rune]

does anyone have a cute cow female avatar that i could use?

[grizzled flame]

when importing a quest ready avatar into unity should i be installing shader package etc, or is it just sdk and avatar?

i ask because i have two quest ready avatars i bought, both came with pc and quest version. for one the instructions are import sdk, toon shaders, some other package and then the avatar. but at the bottom it says “for quest: sdk then avatar” and it worked fine uploading in android. for this other avatar, even though it says quest ready and i’m using the quest ready version, in android when i try to upload its telling me it’s too large of a file size, it says it’s 12 instead of 10, and i was wondering if it’s because i installed poi toon shaders in between

wondering if it’s just another sdk->avatar thing

[vivid vessel]

ive been playing vrc on my quest since 2021 and im still visitor

[wide heart]

Sounds like you get blocked/muted a lot. Your rank wont go up if that happens.

[paper dirge]

Sdk > avatar

Quest does not support shaders.

You need two projects

One is strictly pc build the other is strictly android build. For pc do sdk > poi > anything else > pc avatar.

In your android project sdk > quest avatar

Once pc is done uploading to your account, go to content manager and copy ID of the avatar you just uploaded and paste it into your android projects blueprint ID. Detach the current ID if there is one attached then attach the copied one to there. Then upload, it'll make your avatar have a pc/quest side.

[oblique aurora]

Looking for a corrupted bf from fnf dm if ya can help thx

[nimble prairie]

And in avatar search

[acoustic rampart]

Hello, could someone make an avatar for VRC, something like this? I really want my own Spider-Man avatar. BTW, I neither know nor hate drawing, so I won't comment on how ugly it will be for you. And I still want someone to do it for free.

[pastel storm]

excuse me but where the name of all that is holy are these supposed 12 bones? when i delete the ear and tail bones it says 10 are left and im so confused

i nuked this thing basically

theres no clothes nothing really

so what possible bone am i missing?!

and HOW is it still saying 49mb

i removed everything

what

[flint forge]

Multiple physbone components on the same bones?

[pastel storm]

it was ones that werent showing up

[nimble prairie]

Sorry to say but no one will do an avatar for free. There are many spider man avatars in the spider lair world so try using those ones

[vivid vessel]

Ill do it for free

[severe robin]

Hey, i need some help on an avatar that I'm uploading privately to quest. In the SDK Control Panel, it still says Android Support: NO even though I've seemingly fixed all problems like skinned mesh renderers and all that.

lemme provide a photo of the issues

[oblique storm]

How many textures and why are they higher then 2k for their resolution? (That second part is an assumption)

[pastel storm]

Hello

[wide heart]

Just hit upload

[pastel storm]

Only 4 textures or less, I removed most of them and made the remaining ones about 500 maybe less in resolution

I ended up getting it to upload in the end thankfully

[barren forum]

Heyy!! Is anyone willing ti make an avatar for me, that's js for me ofc, I have some things though, DM me if you wanna!
I don't use PayPal, or anything, I give gc, like Google pay, robux, mine craft or something else of ur request!!
My limit $20

[oblique storm]

So let’s say, you want a thing that will take only 3 hours to make or put together… you are paying someone about $7 per hour. So unless that’s just a re texture and someone really wants robux or mine coins or something, no one is gonna take that.

Plus, actually the main point, people commonly try to scam on this server so I wouldn’t trust DMs from here. There is a reason there is a whole server in #community-servers-old that exists with protections and such to allow safe transactions

[crimson pawn]

For Android/Quest, I am wondering why "Vrchat/Mobile/Particles/Alpha Blended" does not work for Android/Quest?

[molten ginkgo]

Transparency, of any kind, is significantly more computationally intensive on mobile GPUs compared to desktop GPUs

it would result in major performance issues if avatars were able to use it

it would mean that in some specific cases, there could be multiple layers of transparency on certain areas of the screen

[flint forge]

That one and "lightmapped" I am pretty sure were meant for worlds (lightmapped makes no sense to use unless you are doing a world).
There is no arbitrary limitations on shaders on Quest worlds, but those two are meant to be more performant for Quest.

Yes, it is confusing.

[thorny lake]

do things get glitchy if there's different grabbable physbones on PC and Quest?

[leaden tinsel]

Anyone think they can find an avatar of this guy if there’s 1 ?

The name would be B2 or B3 garcello

People are sort of mixed on the name because The fnf mod is called B2 and it’s a spin-off of an older mod called B3

Also I doubt there is 1 yet because the mod released last week

[serene elm]

does someone know a lot about unity to upload quest avatars? bcs I am recieving an error idk how to fix

[unique ferry]

whats the error?

[nimble prairie]

Ask in avatar search this channel isn’t for searching :3

[leaden tinsel]

I couldn’t fined the channel

[nimble prairie]

It’s the very first thing under avatars.

[neon elbow]

#1138520828556890214 <--- click it and create a thread with your question about that avatar, see the the other threads there as examples

[oblique storm]

No, but it might become desynced between quest and pc platform as to what your physbones are doing, in what position, and who is touching them. It won’t break anything but could leave people on different platforms seeing different things

[barren forum]

.,.

[candid beacon]

hey ive got a question

does anyone have ruin chica

animated

[unique ferry]

#1138520828556890214 if you make a thread there more people might see it and help 🫶

[candid beacon]

ok done

[surreal ibex]

I have a question, regarding the physics of clothing and hair in a model for VR chat, how should I configure it in Blender to transfer it to VR chat?

[molten ginkgo]

you would want your hair and clothes (the parts that will move) to be rigged with bones, so that you can give them physics using Physbone components in unity

for things like hair, you can have a single root bone as the parent of multiple bone chains, that way a single physbone component can affect all of those bone chains

[surreal ibex]

Thank you very much

I also had another question, is there a way to transfer the corrective shapekeys from blender to unity for vr chat?

[molten ginkgo]

not easily. you'll need some annoying contact sender/receiver setup to drive animations to drive those blendshapes

I'd avoid corrective shapekeys if you can avoid it, using extra bones with constraints is easier in a lot of cases and doesn't need any fancy setup

and it will work regardless of other people's safety settings

[surreal ibex]

And more or less how I could do that?, I know that in blender you can put restrictions on the bones so that they move up to a certain distance or rotate up to a certain angle but that is done with drivers

[molten ginkgo]

you don't need drivers, you can just use bone constraints

getting them to match the behavior of Parent/Position/Rotation/Aim constraints in unity might take some tweaking

but should be doable

[surreal ibex]

I understand, thank you very much Sacred

[molten ginkgo]

don't forget to keep the poly count and material slots as low as possible

in my opinion, an avatar base (body, face, hair) shouldn't be above 40k

which would leave you 30k for accessories before hitting the 70k limit of Very Poor rating

[surreal ibex]

Thank you very much sacred

[molten ginkgo]

and lastly, this is all assuming you're targetting PC. if you're targetting quest/mobile, you should be under 20k total for triangles, and you can't use constraints at all

[tiny narwhal]

Are ava's with at least 50k tris alright for quest?

[molten ginkgo]

for just a base model? hell no

[tiny narwhal]

for base, hair, head, shoes, top, and skirt + choker

[molten ginkgo]

if it's 50k for everything, avatar, hair, and some clothing that will not all be at the same time, in my opinion if you're below 20k at any given time you're fine

[tiny narwhal]

o

[molten ginkgo]

if it will all be at the same time, get rid of accessories

[tiny narwhal]

F

only accessory used choker

and it's very low tris too F

(like about 600 tris)

[molten ginkgo]

you can likely get the poly count of all of those down in blender pretty easily

assuming your models have quad topology, dissolving loops will get you very far

[tiny narwhal]

also I sorta use the low poly version of the zin fit flat foot base atm too.

[molten ginkgo]

@surreal ibex pinging because this here is pretty important

[tiny narwhal]

o

[molten ginkgo]

I didn't realize this was the quest channel first lol, so just making sure you're aware

[tiny narwhal]

so the thing does not count things that are not triangles on the sdk then?

[molten ginkgo]

everything becomes triangles in the end, the SDK does count tris. however, working on meshes that are using quads is significantly easier than one that is a mess of triangles

[tiny narwhal]

yeah

I even have unity import things using quads as quads too.

[molten ginkgo]

don't do that.

[tiny narwhal]

oh?

[molten ginkgo]

it will split your meshes into two, one containing all of the quads and the other containing all of the tris

the option is only useful if you're using stuff like tessellation shaders on an all quad mesh

[tiny narwhal]

Which would inflate texture memory?

[molten ginkgo]

draw calls

[tiny narwhal]

oh true

I even use v8.1 of these as well to optimize the materials too:

[surreal ibex]

I understand,thank you very much sacred

[vapid cliff]

hi can someone help? I cant publish my avatar

[tiny narwhal]

you need to add a descriptor

[vapid cliff]

i know but how

[tiny narwhal]

when you import the fbx you need to install the fbx exporter extension in the unity extension manager from the unity feeds

after that you right click the fbx and select > convert fbx to prefab variant and have it dump the prefab into a Prefabs folder

[vapid cliff]

ok

[tiny narwhal]

After that drag that prefab into your scene and then go into inspector where the prefab is root and add the descriptor there.

Also: after the fbx exporter is ran you will need to go back to reimport it into the fbx file itself as well

[vapid cliff]

so much words

[tiny narwhal]

that way the avatar object itself is recreated again.

[vapid cliff]

o ok

[tiny narwhal]

Yeah it is complex I figured it out last night the hard way lol.

[vapid cliff]

i dont know English so much

im russia

[tiny narwhal]

o

[vapid cliff]

but thx

[tiny narwhal]

yw

[wide heart]

You dont need to do hardly any of that. Just select the avatar in the hierarchy and add a VRC avatar descriptor component

[pastel storm]

Helo i just started the vrchat like in last weekend how i can input my custom avatar?

[heady plover]

You should search through #avatar-help to get an idea until someone experienced helps you.

[pastel storm]

ah thanks ! 🙂

[void basin]

Jello

[sharp jewel]

is the looking for channel gone?

[neon elbow]

looking for? avatars? #1138520828556890214

[misty kindle]

quick question, for some reason my toggles just cycle through super fast for quest users, but i dont see it when using the emulator in unity, any ideas?

[tall frigate]

Hey could I get some help uploading an avatar? I don't understand the prosses and I thought someone with more experience would maybe know what to do

[unique ferry]

hey, i can explain stuff to you if you still need help. feel free to shoot me a dm <3

[pastel storm]

This covers the process. The time starts from exporting from Blender, but it catches up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=447&v=7MDyVTpxW8E

[pastel storm]

We need more info. Like your FX layer setup, the avatar paramater menu setup, etc. Otherwise, hope you solved it!

[misty kindle]

yes i solved it, i apreciate you willing to help though. i think it ws just a faulty upload due to a broken script i left on the descriptor

[misty crest]

I'm live on Twitch, come hang out! https://www.twitch.tv/lgs086?sr=a

[misty kindle]

what is this about?

[zenith sonnet]

Umm.....Quest Shader broken or something for particle system? using VRChat/Mobile/Toonlit

[misty kindle]

no particles, nothin, just normal toon lit shaders

im gonna restart unity again to test

[misty kindle]

so for some reason the download size jumped from 7mb to 10.5 when i didnt chang anything on the avi

and i cannot get it below 10mb even after taking every material off

[molten ginkgo]

use the Build report tab in VRWorldtoolkit to see a breakdown of everything on the avatar

[misty kindle]

where do i find that?

[molten ginkgo]

install VRWorldToolkit from VCC, then open the tab in unity

[misty kindle]

it doesnt tell me anything more than the avater descriptor

[grizzled flame]

i have an avatar with the new locomotion v7, but i can only use poses if i’m in stationary mode is that normal? in videos i see people using locomotion event when not in stationary mode

[topaz zephyr]

You need to use a particle shader

[zenith sonnet]

then it just goes transparent squares

[topaz zephyr]

what are you trying to do

[devout quail]

ive downloaded ts 4 times

still doesnt work

5th try still doesnt work

[surreal ibex]

I have a question, how could I make an idle animation to a tail, I already put bones in the tail, from there I don't know what steps should be done

[molten ginkgo]

you would create an animation for moving the tail, then add it to a new layer in your FX controller

for making the animation, be sure to select the avatar root when you create your animation

[full scarab]

does anyone know how to fix this issue? I'm using unity 2019.4.3f1 if that helps

[random comet]

Is this Unity installed from Unity Hub or did you use a standalone setup

[full scarab]

from unity hub

[random comet]

close the project, open unity hub, click the "Installs" tab, click the settings for 2019.4.31f1 and add modules you only need to check "Android Build Support", the children like open jdk or android sdk don't need to be installed.

[full scarab]

i only get these settings

[random comet]

that means it's standalone and you added it manually to Unity Hub

[full scarab]

oh, i see

[random comet]

for steps for a standalone installation: in an open project, press Ctrl + Shift + B and click the android tab, the installer link should be there

[full scarab]

will do, thanks for the help!

[pastel storm]

Hey is anyone here an avatar creator

Because I need to make an avatar

But I'm not the person to do that

I want an avatar of the lil man in my profile picture

With a few holdable things and costumes

Also 2d mouth animation that I can draw myself

I can maybe pay you but no promises

[molten ginkgo]

"I can maybe pay you" yea that's not how this works

[pastel storm]

I don't know how@molten ginkgo

Can you explain it to me

Can anyone explain to me

I don't understand

First time doing this kinda thing

[nimble prairie]

You’ll just get people scamming you in here and no one does avi making for free it’s very rare.

[pastel storm]

Aww

@nimble prairie I really wished there was someone

But people have to scam

[hollow cargo]

Go to vrc trader

Or just learn blender for a week

Ur avatar is simple enough

[oblique storm]

The scamming is just cause you are here in this discord server, the payment is cause it takes hours of work to make an avatar, especially from scratch.

I agree with moodum, you aren’t looking to make a hyper realistic eboy your first time, so you could reasonably learn what you need and make it yourself in a few weeks, all you need is a PC or a laptop that can have blender and Unity installed on it

[pastel storm]

how do i upload an avatar to both pc and quest so i can wear a pc avatar but have a quest version for it

[pastel storm]

is blender easy to use? im like very picky on my avatars, so i kinda wanna learn blender bc there’s only 2 avatar models i like out of thousands i’ve seen

[molten ginkgo]

it has a steep learning curve but learning it is worth it

[pastel storm]

could i ask u what things i should remove from the avi bc its 10.3mb and it needs to be 10mb for quest

[fluid wind]

check your texture resolutions in unity and see if you can lower any of them

[pastel storm]

where do i check that at

[fluid wind]

otherwise, toggles, extra meshes you dont need. literally anything you dont plan on using can be removed, but thats up to ur discretion

by clicking on the texture in the asset browser

you just click any texture of ur choice and then you wanna look at max size and compression quality

[pastel storm]

where do i check the size of the avi

[fluid wind]

just try uploading it again

[faint wraith]

I'm in the same boat as you are, I can't seem to get it to work either, Did you ever get it to work?

[oblique storm]

I don’t wanna sugar coat it… the basics of blender aren’t all that hard, but making an avatar, even a simplified one is beyond the basics of blender. Do you need to have been using blender for years to make an avatar, heck no, will this be something you watch a couple videos on and learn / complete in a week, once again heck no

[pastel storm]

what’s the app called or where do i download it or is it unity

[oblique storm]

Blender?

[pastel storm]

idk

like what is it

blender

an app?

[oblique storm]

It is a 3D modeling, animation, rigging, sculpting, blah blah blah 3D stuff app / program

Just look up blender 3d on Google

Or I think it’s website is literally blender.org

It’s totally free

[fluid wind]

can also just download via steam

[oblique storm]

Well yeah

But that’s wack

[fluid wind]

personally prefer it, less work to update + shows how many hours ive wasted

[oblique storm]

fair

why do you think I don’t want it on steam…

Also don’t want it auto updating in case I ever do a longer term, big project

[fluid wind]

ive yet to run into things breaking with blender updates so idm

[oblique storm]

You don’t want your software updating and changing stuff in bigger projects, hence why VRChat is still on Unity 2019, and it’s been a whole thing to update to a newer version

[lucid quest]

with steam, you can stay on one version without updating. Say, you dont want to update because that one plugin that is not compatible with latest blender

[oblique storm]

I get that and yeah you are right and that’s totally fair, but then if I want something to not break, I have to specifically do something to stop it, while with it installed normally, I need to be the one to push a button and mess it up

It’s all personal preference

[molten ginkgo]

the only valid reason to get it on steam is if you want to easily track hours

[fluid wind]

im not sure what a 'bigger project' would look like in blender. i just sculpt, retopo, wp, shape keys. that workflow is pretty established and idk whatd break so i prefer the convenience of auto updates

but yeah wrong channel 4 this

[oblique storm]

Short film, using crazy paid plugins

[oblique storm]

But you right

[oblique storm]

Animation stuff basically

[fluid wind]

oh yeah i was thinking more like vrc specific creation. i dont really do animation, the most ill do is sculpting and renders for projects outside of vrc

[oblique storm]

Then having it on steam is totally the move, except maybe sometimes with CATS but that’s it

I have it installed normally instead of through steam cause I use it in general, not only for vrc related stuff

[pastel storm]

alright sounds good

[pastel storm]

Will there ever be a way for VRChat to auto compress avatars to make everything less than 10mb for quest?

[ashen oracle]

in a way, yes. That's what impostors will do. It's not exactly compression, though. It's taking a bunch of pictures from many different angles

impostors were first shown here, and should release some time soon tm: https://hello.vrchat.com/blog/april-dev-update

[surreal ibex]

Could you help me, I made my character's expressions but when I activate it it stays in a loop of activating and deactivating the expression, how could I fix it?

[sage dagger]

hey im tryna add a flashlight to my avi for the quest version need help of particle masters

[tiny narwhal]

I wish quest could be updated to allow up to 150 bones for poor rank and not up to 75 for that rank as many people have bases alone with 75 bones which does not include things like hair, head, etc that would make them able to fall off of the avatar or unable to use specific features.

(same as poly’s I feel a poor rank with up to 32k poly’s would be ok when quest 3 comes)

[sage dagger]

also need help with setting up hair physbones

[ashen oracle]

quest 2 is in desperate need of performance improvements as is, and we're focusing an immense amount of effort to squeeze out every little bit we can across a wide variety of systems. It's safe to say we are not currently entertaining ideas that would make things even worse

[tiny narwhal]

yeah hair bones are the worst as well, the hair I use on mine has 47 strands and 71 bones alone.

[tiny narwhal]

I see, even up to 150 bones alone would be ok though at least?

For those with the poly count and everything else but not with bone count.

[sage dagger]

i believe it is alr a fbx that has physbones just dont know how to set it up

[ashen oracle]

I'm not entirely familiar with the performance characteristics of additional bones but it's safe to say they're probably not free

[tiny narwhal]

probably not but 75 bones is almost impossible for some though and we work hard for not only pc users to see them but also quest as well.

Even if it is at least poor rank is fine with me lol

[sage dagger]

think u can help rq?

[chilly bone]

can anyone tell me if i can upload a quest avatar thats more than 20k polys

is there a hard limit to what can be uploaded for quest?

[oblique storm]

Just make the hair have less bones on the quest version…

Like my avatar is still within quest limits with a full humanoid unity rig, a tail, ears, a snout, a tongue, and head fluffy bits all rigged with bones

If a head of hair by itself it going over the bone limits, you have way way too many bones making up the hair. Each strand doesn’t need to be It’s own chain of bones

[sage dagger]

teach me pls😭

[oblique storm]

I mean I am currently walking 20 minutes for food at 9 in the morning and then going to a college class… so I can’t really do that lmao

It’s kinda tough, but look up tutorials on YouTube, just blender tutorials, learn the basics of blender, then you can specifically learn the little bits of rigging you need

[sage dagger]

dont have to be now.

[fluid wind]

its a lot of work and i wouldnt expect people to teach you personally unless youre paying them

like warr said, go watch tutorials on rigging and learn the basics of blender

[tiny narwhal]

if you want you could help me right? And with that I might as well do the change for desktop version as well 😅.

o

[snow eagle]

Posted this here already (#avatar-help message), I've never seen this before.

[gentle swallow]

i am trying to uplaod for quest and it says the avatar has a large mb of 11.00mb>10.00mb

how do I fix that

[oblique storm]

less or smaller textures

[pastel storm]

quest

[oblique storm]

?

[livid helm]

What causes this issue?

[oblique storm]

it means that specific avatar only has a quest or pc version uploaded

[oblique storm]

it doesnt have both a pc AND quest version

[livid helm]

Oh so I have to upload it to PC as well?

[oblique storm]

yeah, if you want it to be visible on PC

luckily, making an avatar work well on PC from a quest version is literally effortless

[livid helm]

Yeah lol

Took me a while to make my PC avatar quest compatible

[oblique storm]

you could safely just switch build target if you want and hit upload

really, unlike what a lot of people say, it is safe to switch build target from a pc to quest avatar anytime really, it just takes a lotta time the first time or any time you add a lot of new files into the project

people are rightly concerned, cause it used to potentailly cause issues, but by now its stable enough

[livid helm]

So to clarify I take the version of my avatar that’s quest compatible, set the build target to android, upload it, switch the target to Windows, and upload it again?

[oblique storm]

yeup, you can do that

for an avatar to be cross compatible, it needs a pc and quest version uploaded under the same avatarID

so technically the same avatar could be totally different on each platform... but thats a technicality

[livid helm]

Oh damn so I can upload my higher quality version to PC then upload the quest version and it would be good? How would I set the ID?

[molten ginkgo]

yes, that's usually what you do

you set the ID in the Pipeline manager component

[livid helm]

Ok thank you, I will look into it

[oblique storm]

this

but yeah, thats what you are able to do, have a high quality PC version, and a far more performant quest version

[solemn orchid]

anyone know how I can fix the eyes being angled like this?

[past raven]

Anyone here a avatar creator? I am in need of 1 avatar, I can send you the files I just need you to retexture it.

[nimble prairie]

You can’t just send people files

That person also needs to own the avatar you can’t simply just give out files as it’s against TOS of avi creators

[ancient abyss]

Can someone implement an avatar to my vrchat account? Unity is being a pain for my computer it refuses to download like a teenage girl

[hollow cargo]

No

No one can use ur account

[past raven]

Oh, I mean I have the avatar. But idk how to retexture it.

[nimble prairie]

Yes I understand but you can’t just give people the files

[crude acorn]

dont most gumroad creators like, specificallhy advise against sharing the files

[past raven]

Ah, okay.

[oblique storm]

thats cause why buy it if you can just have a friend who bought it give you a copy of it

[ancient abyss]

Do people usually dm you with "I can help with the avatar" stuff the dude wasnt in the discord

named 'diamondizzy'

had a screenshot of my post so idk, i aint accepting the dm. but avatar i want imported was a free avatar, it was deleted from one of the worlds I found it on

https://samvr.gumroad.com/l/Akuma

this one

[pastel storm]

Idk what chat i should post this in but does anyone do free uploads please? I dont have a pc to do this myself :'))

[ancient abyss]

honestly im asking the same unity aint working

[pastel storm]

You gotta pay 4 unity right?

[molten ginkgo]

no, and you should not give away your login information to anyone else, ever, for any reason

[molten ginkgo]

no, unity is free

[pastel storm]

Oh alr

I lowkey might js buy a pc ngl😭

[ancient abyss]

is it possible to request avatar world owners to post avatars we want?

[molten ginkgo]

reason being that the IP addresses you log into are linked to your account. if someone else logs into your account from a different PC and ends up getting banned, you will also be banned

[ancient abyss]

like the one i posted

[molten ginkgo]

you can always contact them to see if they're willing to sell you an avatar

or come to some other agreement

[pastel storm]

Ahh i see

What does unity work on like what device (pc wise)

[molten ginkgo]

any PC, technically it can even run on an Intel compute stick, it will just be really slow

[ancient abyss]

im not in a position to buy anything I just want the akuma avatar i sent the link for. So if they could post that avatar on their world i would love that, not sure what it takes to post the avatar on the world tho

[molten ginkgo]

you should definitely go for a windows computer though

[pastel storm]

Ohh alr

[molten ginkgo]

they would have to add a new avatar pedestal with the avatar ID for the specific avatar

[ancient abyss]

does that require money or anything to post avatars on a world I would imagine not

i could maybe try to talk to the prismatic avatar world owner to see if they're willing

since their world has over 1,000,000 avatars

[molten ginkgo]

no, the only things that require money in this game are VRC+, avatars bought on websites, and commission work

[ancient abyss]

alright

[solemn orchid]

So i'm trying to upload an avatar to the quest, but i'm getting this error, how I reduce this?

[pastel storm]

t:vrcphysbonecollider in the searchbar to get to them, them remove them same as physbones

[dapper steeple]

hey guys super new here. I just made a model in blender that I want to import into unity to import into vrc (I have never done this before), and I was wondering if there are any up-to-date tutorials for doing that that anyone knows of. I know the old way involved using SDK2, and all the tutorials Ive seen still use that, but I know theres a new way your supposed to do it now and I cant find anything for that uses the new version. Thanks!

[steady idol]

if the model is rigged and everything just export as fbx and drag and drop the fbx into unity

then go and click on the fbx in the unity assets menu and check if the rig is set to humanoid

if not just configure and set bones to bones

[molten ginkgo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWKXbMQe3x4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRAnDMUbWt8
I would recommend watching both of these in order

[dapper steeple]

oh hey thank you guys thats exactly what I was looking for lol

[tepid musk]

Any avatar creators taking customs that would be willing to make an avi similar to this (pictured below) that is quest compatible? I am willing to pay, just need an estimate!

I do not own this art and the avi doesn't need to look exactly like this, just close

[hollow cargo]

Don't ask for commission here

Also is that a possum

[nimble prairie]

Yep

[nimble prairie]

As person above said this isn’t the place to ask for coms, try vrc traders which is in the #community-servers-old channel

[dapper steeple]

Hey guys! its the guy from this morning who was getting his first avatar working! So I've succesfully gotten it into unity and VRC, but when I actually go on VR im looking out of the side of my head. I think its because the viewpoint arrows arent aligned with the model arrows, but I dont know how to make them the same. Please help, thank you!

[tepid musk]

Oops, sorry about that! 😓

[tepid musk]

Sorry, I didn't see a channel for that

[tepid musk]

Yea, it is 😂

[dapper steeple]

update, its not this

yall I have no idea

[hollow cargo]

It shouldn't matter, the reason why there's something obscuring your view is because some of your bone isn't parent to head

[dapper steeple]

like the neck bone?

here wait ill check the blender file

heres my entire parenting set up

[dapper steeple]

just for some clarification: when i go into vrchat my entire body works totally fine, its just rotated 90 degrees. but like my eyes are on the side of my head, when i look forward im looking at my profile. if I move my arms they track perfectly, they just dislocate from my body a bit

[zealous dune]

the satisfaction of making your own avatar after making avatars for a toxic community

[steady idol]

lookin nice but what you mean toxic community

[pastel storm]

based on the avi looks, I think this guy spends all his time in black cat, backrooms, murder4 and maybe that's what

[zealous dune]

i used to make owl house avatars but i kinda stopped after a while idk why

[steady idol]

thats what you mean by toxic

[hollow cargo]

I like these clean and simple design avatars

[winged frost]

Hey, I know what this error means but is there any way to see how many MB it's over with the new SDK or am I stuck guessing?

[oblique storm]

I think it is telling you but you are right on the edge, so you are at like 10.004 MB > 10.00 MB and since it only shows two decimal places it rounds down to 10.00 MB > 10.00 MB

[hollow cargo]

Imagine ur avatar is 0.002mb too big

[forest charm]

The file size is stuck on 10.00 MB no matter what I do

[unique quiver]

hey could i get help with uploading a quest avatar? ive purchased an avatar and the unity file came with both the pc and the quest versions in one scene and im wondering how to upload the quest one. pc has uploaded fine. ive got errors like these and it feels like its detecting both of the avatars at once ?

[steady idol]

it wont ever detect both at once
this is just screaming at you at how shitty its optimized
those are not errors as errors would pop up in the console

[unique quiver]

so it just wont work for quest even tho its advertised for it lmao?

[steady idol]

again those arent errors

[spare summit]

it will!! it just might not perform the best and people on quest will have it hidden by default

[unique quiver]

okay well ill try uploading it and stuff and ill come back thanks guys

[spare summit]

👍

[steady idol]

should also mention you should have the same blueprint id for both pc and quest

[unique quiver]

yeah thank you ive read about that

[unique quiver]

so i had to do some stuff but i tried uploading it and it says that it failed to build avatar. these popped up in the console and if you need text from either one lmk

sorry this is like my first time trying to figure out quest stuff

[primal hornet]

Disable Error Pause

[unique quiver]

ive disabled error pause now

these are all here

[wicked halo]

Someone have a Tupac avi?

[winged frost]

Yeah that's the issue I'm having

[winged frost]

So it means somewhere on the avatar there's a script that says something like mono script missing or something like that, usually it's because someone made the model with dynamic bones, you have to find where the missing script is on the avatar and delete the componment in the descriptor

[unique quiver]

thank u sm lmao

[pseudo notch]

I cant get the VRC Sdk panel to come up

[weary sentinel]

bro

[reef zephyr]

Does an avatar have to be excellent rating to be a fallback avatar?

[random comet]

good rating or better

so basically Good or Excellent

[reef zephyr]

For some reason despite being good and having no issues it won't allow me to use the avatar as a fallback.

[random comet]

which SDK version are you using

[reef zephyr]

As far as I'm aware, the latest, SDK3 on the VCC.

The one issue I do have is with the pelvis and thigh rotations, but I can't imagine that'd be the cause?

[random comet]

I wouldn't think so either

go to the SDK settings and enable all performance stats

[reef zephyr]

Still all green.

[random comet]

could you maybe try the 3.4.0 beta SDK?

I've seen Android uploads are really hit or miss on 3.3.0

[reef zephyr]

I'll give it a try and see if it'll play nicely.

Still no dice.

Oddly, if I change the platform to Windows, it says I can upload it as a fallback, however when I change back to Android it goes back to saying cannot.

[reef zephyr]

Downgrading the SDK to 3.2.3 fixed the issue.

[polar bloom]

on the very last step for uploading did the pc added the avatar id to the quest blah blah blah went to upload it and it failed... idk wth this error is please help before I go mentally insane

[ashen oracle]

scroll up, it's telling you you have compile errors

what you're looking at is not the real error, just telling you that you have errors. Which would be earlier

[polar bloom]

ohh okay so I gotta figure wtf happened earlier

[proper bone]

Question, I have two versions of my avi, one available in Quest, and another with full detail for Windows

I have them both in different skin IDs

My question is, can I have different versions if I use the same ID? For example, building for Android overwrites the built for Windows version?

Or if I take the detailed avatar and upload for windows, then take the quest avatar and upload for android, using the same ID, the windows one will be used when people see me in windows and quest one when they see me in quest?

[molten ginkgo]

avatar IDs have two slots, one for a windows build, and one for an android build. uploading an avatar while your target is Android will not override the windows build

"Or if I take the detailed avatar and upload for windows, then take the quest avatar and upload for android, using the same ID, the windows one will be used when people see me in windows and quest one when they see me in quest?" this is correct

[proper bone]

Perfect!

I made a very low detail version for quest, but it stayed at Very Poor, could not optimize further, since my avatar was initially thought for Windows

The Windows version is at Medium

I hope that with Quest 3 the limits for the Quest version will rise

[molten ginkgo]

absolutely not

the quest 2 already struggles majorly with the existing content, due to people not giving a shit about optimization, and expecting too much out of the hardware. because of this, crashes are commonplace due to the quest running out of memory

the quest 3 does have more graphics processing power, and bumps the ram from 6 to 8. this should make for a hopefully more stable experience, but it will likely not be that much better.

[proper bone]

Fair enough

I'll have to look for a quest optimized template for a fallback and work with that

[somber flower]

I’m still trying to work this out, I’ve posted around a lot of places since I get ignored.
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[pastel storm]

Sadly, they have said it won't. While Quest 3 is 20-40% stronger, they want to use that as breathing room. While ignoring the existance of Quest pro*shrug

[proper bone]

Who the hell has quest pro though

That thing is more expensive than my whole computer

[flint forge]

And who would use a Quest Pro for the purpose of playing standalone. (according to how many people were using the Quest Pro specific build, was double digit I believe they said, not many I would guess.)

[hollow cargo]

Quest 2 is probably gonna be the largest quest user base

Quest 3 is more expensive

[proper bone]

Also how do y'all make concave eyes that make it seem like they're always looking at people

VRC's built in auto eye look ain't the best

[teal canopy]

Is there any statements from VRChat as to which version will be running on the quest3?. The pc one or the same standalone bare bones version?

[topaz zephyr]

the quest 3 will run the quest version

you don't need an official statement from vrchat for that lol it's a technical limitation

it is impossible for the quest to run PC worlds/avatars

[teal canopy]

Understood....that's a bit of a letdown.

[topaz zephyr]

blame meta for cheaping out on the hardware

[teal canopy]

Yeah... looking to change out of my rift s but I hate the knuckles controllers

[flint forge]

Well, why not just run the Quest 3 teathered to your PC then?

[teal canopy]

Battery life

I don't want to have to step out cause batteries are draining. I do long dnd session in vrc so I need to be able to stay on for a while

[oblique storm]

why not get any other base station compatible controller?

[wide heart]

You can charge and play. The only thing would be your controller battery, but just have 2 sets of rechargeable batteries.

[teal canopy]

Controllers batteries are not. Problem it's the headset

And base station controllers like which ones. I dont like the wands or knuckles

[fluid wind]

like they said you can charge the headset while playing

so you dont run out

[flint forge]

I keep my Quest 2 teathered to a wall outlet, while the charging circuit has gotten strange recently, I can still play this way for 8-10 hours.

[teal canopy]

so i would need 2 cables , one to charge and one for pcVR

[wide heart]

No, you can get powered USB that will work for PCVR and get enough power to charge the headset. You'll never run out.

[teal canopy]

Really? Anyone that I know with a quest that plays it on PC run out of headset batteries under 3 hours.

[flint forge]

I just use Virtual Desktop.

[austere mirage]

There’s some cords out there that charge the headset will playing I have a few and overall there amazing!

Also Very Excited about the Quest 3

[solemn orchid]

how do i make a toggle to swap between textures?

[random comet]

you'd need to use a material swap

[stray saddle]

Does anyone know how to fix this? Happened whenever I converted the face shader to vrchat mobile toon lit to switch it over to quest

[random comet]

Quest shaders cannot use alpha transparency effects

pretty sure that head has a "quest mode" blendshape