3d-modeling

[spiral sigil]

from wot google showin me

moke

yeeee

heres one of my first sculpts

death

and moke

[spiral sigil]

first monke ive made

beeug

ugly moke ear

C

[rain fjord]

my model has so many shading issues

the desk high poly retry

[spiral sigil]

monke polygon

[spiral sigil]

better

still an improvement

[thin shadow]

harambe will forever lives in the virtual metaverse

[spiral sigil]

i promised my self by my next birthday in february 20th. id be able to fully 3d model my own thing from scratch. do you guys think ill be able to hit that goal?

errr thats pretty soon and you have school presumably so id go with smaller goals first

more finite and specific goals

goals you know for sure you completed and its not a guess ehh i think i did enough

but monke polygon.

[primal narwhal]

Modifiers -> Decimate -> Unsubdivide is the easiest method to remove that without destroying the topology too badly.

What do you mean your "own thing" because that's pretty generic. Model a photo-realistic frying pan, that'll teach you bevels, extrude, loop cuts, probably more that's just off the top of my head.

If you want to learn the skills, model a donut. Blender Guru's Donut tutorial is still the ideal tutorial for learning essential modelling tools in Blender. Bite the bullet, make the donut, and then take those skills to something else. It's not the fastest way to learn, but if you keep trying to brute force something like you are, then it'll take longer than making the donut and the next thing.

Besides all that, trying to learn it all yourself without learning the proper methods will give you bad habits that'll just hurt your models later down the line. It's best to learn how to do it right the first time and go from there.

[icy jungle]

^ what they said. But also figure out what you want to do. Create avatars? then you may need to look into modeling characters for animation. these character models have specific edge loops for proper deformation. that will also go into rigging and texturing. I can understand its hard to learn from people, are you referring to video tutorials? maybe you need good written tutorials?

[spiral sigil]

another new psychotic sculpt

[spiral sigil]

i dont know what the problem is. i just cant learn from people. apperantly my dad has this problem so yknow

[devout scroll]

there's a lot of different styles of teaching

if you're just gonna sculpt spheres into random disfigured shapes you're not gonna get very far

just gotta find the right teaching style for you

[livid torrent]

what are some good things to model to start out with

(already doing the tutorials)

[devout scroll]

small accessories that you can put on your avatar

glasses are a fun and easy one

knives and other simple weapons like baseball bats are pretty simple

rings, earrings, piercings and so on

[livid torrent]

i gotchu

[near totem]

POV:0 bobuc

[dense tundra]

Is that ghostface

[craggy lintel]

WEIRD SHIT

My blender

uhhh

weird

so

basically I reverted a shapekey to enable something but also disable the other, but then when I did the operation, some mesh after being edited in shapekey is still registering my edits even not in edit mode.. wTF?

Is it a bad idea to play with revert keys?

Does merging keys even if some are revert keys, to optimize, confuse the mesh?

[spiral sigil]

yes

but my take on it

[dense tundra]

I love it my dude

Keep at it

[spiral sigil]

i made another creature

[celest sierra]

that is looking amazing

[spiral sigil]

thanks

[celest sierra]

np cant wait to see your other work!

[spiral sigil]

i wonder what an edgar the bug model would look like from me

[wintry gyro]

Anyone know the poly count on the default unity sphere?

NM looks like 768

[weak ermine]

So I need some help

I'm making hands for my first ever model with hands but they aren't excactly conventional and wanted to ask if these would even work

[true summit]

here we go taking the dive

[spiral sigil]

i dont imagine why they wouldnt work but the fingers are just boring cones but it might look good with your model

whats the full picture of the model? you going for some kind of furry animal species right?

[gloomy pawn]

They should as long as the bones are placed correctly! You can always quick and dirty test the rig with mixamo

[weak ermine]

It's an anthro latios from Pokemon, so the cones are actually just claws that will bend like fingers

[spiral sigil]

ohh I see the resemblance okay

the fingers should probably be wider at the base and more pointy at the end from what im seeing of the pokemon i think that would look nicer

I also think you should stay with 3 fingers/claws since the pokemon has 3 claws and u have 3 toes so why not

so you can have fewer, but more clawlike thicker fingers

my take anyway

[weak ermine]

I just want to at least have a thumb because I usually tie expressions to all hand gestures so thumbs have to exist for thumbs up and finger gun

[spiral sigil]

ahh okay

maybe 1 thumb claw and 2 normal fingies

i made my own version of the devil

[lucid ibex]

is anyone here open to design work? will pay

pls @ me

[spiral sigil]

if the design work could be an avatar world or prop commission you can find some reputable artists in VRC Traders Discord #community-servers-old

[lucid ibex]

oh cool, yeah i need a 3D model made @spiral sigil one that I can use in VR chat and other places

[spiral sigil]

it would be ideal if you could be more specific on what you want made, unless u dont want to disclose that here for some reason

[craggy lintel]

Quick question

is using visemes to make new shapekeys ok

or will this confuse data

[spiral sigil]

idk what u mean by confuse data, at the end of the day Visemies are just blendshapes with names that Unity reads

[craggy lintel]

Okay good good

thats what i thought

i wanted to check

trying to play it safe

[spiral sigil]

np i havent had problems using them to make others

[lucid ibex]

oh

i just need a 3d cg character model made

that can do full mocap

[desert pine]

is anyone available to call with me real quick? im trying to get model from blender to unity and after hitting a wall for the past week and 2 breakdowns, im at my limit, its likely a simple solution with no documentation

[spiral sigil]

export the fbx put it in unity

[desert pine]

i keep loosing textures when converting from blender to unity. embed textures is checked, but the button to import textures is greyed out.

[spiral sigil]

then

assign the textures

in unity

create a new mat

apply the tex to the abledo

[desert pine]

HOW??? how do that????? dumb it down because you have to be more specific. i sont see the documentation anywhere HOW???? id be happy to follow instructions

[spiral sigil]

firsty what version of unity u usin

[desert pine]

2014.4.31f1. blender is 3.0

[spiral sigil]

use unity 2019

2019.4.29

[desert pine]

i am in 2019, i mistyped. Im tired soz

[spiral sigil]

https://docs.unity3d.com/2019.3/Documentation/Manual/Materials.html

[dusty heron]

Also you can use any version between 2019.4.29f1 to 2019.4.31f1

[spiral sigil]

i know i just said the version im using atm

[desert pine]

im trying my best to not be angry. Ive read over that. That didnt help

[spiral sigil]

screenshot your problem

[desert pine]

texture button no worky! exported right! problem hard, so i wanted to screenshare!!

[spiral sigil]

is the textures in the project?

[dusty heron]

Try exporting the textures from Blender separately of the model

[spiral sigil]

what

[dusty heron]

Their problem is that the texture aren't being carried over with the model, so bringing the textures over separately might work

[desert pine]

how do i apply them?

[spiral sigil]

2 hours later

[dusty heron]

Select a material in the project tab, and drag the texture over to the appropriate slot. Depending on the shader, it may have a different name such as Albedo, Base Colour or similar

I have to go have dinner now so if you have any other issues, I won't be able to help for a while, but I'll try be back quickly.

[spiral sigil]

its 2:55 am

nvm

different timezones

[spiral sigil]

ask this in avatars-3-help

[desert pine]

I Figured It Out!!!!!!

cant use all caps

[dusty heron]

Nice

[solar fossil]

Please use the multires modifier instead of subdivide for sculpting, it's an absolute godsend

[spiral sigil]

another shitty sculpt of mine

[cinder cradle]

this tail look so unnatural in this body hah

but detailed nice

[languid fog]

thats the idea! haha

[cinder cradle]

dk why reminds me of alien isolation

[languid fog]

you mean

this?

[cinder cradle]

yes

but yours is thinner

[spiral sigil]

another monster i made

[spiral sigil]

i tried to make momo ignore the top of the head on the side view

[cinder cradle]

ur made for horror games modeling

but texturing them are pain

[spiral sigil]

i use to think 3d modelling was impossible. but ive been sculpting for 5 days making one or two things each day. now i see how easy this really was

[gritty gull]

ok i massively fucked up somewhere please send help

[spiral sigil]

shit

[tepid olive]

Your model has ascended beyond the mortal realm and has become god

[spiral sigil]

check the rig

[tepid olive]

Genuinely tho holy shit

[gritty gull]

i tried

[spiral sigil]

is it normal in blnder

[tepid olive]

What did you export the model to?

[spiral sigil]

unity

[tepid olive]

No the file type

[spiral sigil]

o

[gritty gull]

fbx

[gritty gull]

ye

[spiral sigil]

have you tried reconfiguring the rig in the model properties?

[gritty gull]

yup

[tepid olive]

Unity let's you directly import the blend file into it try that?

[gritty gull]

you cant import blend files, has to be fbx

[tepid olive]

?

[gritty gull]

for some reason it doesnt like when i do that

[tepid olive]

I've done so before that's weird

[cinder cradle]

it could be metter of wrong option while saving in blender

[tepid olive]

Oh is that specific to vrchat?

[cinder cradle]

you can open fbx file in preview

[gritty gull]

bruh moment

[tepid olive]

Bruh

[spiral sigil]

rerig

it

[gritty gull]

that would take so much time

[spiral sigil]

ask this in avatar-rigging

mixamo?

[tepid olive]

That rig looks sus

[gritty gull]

3rd arm

i am crying

[tepid olive]

How in the hell

[spiral sigil]

sus

[cinder cradle]

bruh when you save in blender you can set option that sets all bones to same direction

maybe that is problem

[gritty gull]

?

[tepid olive]

That makes sense

But this feels way too chaotic to be that

@gritty gull what happens when you move one of the bones

[spiral sigil]

death

[tepid olive]

Damn

Don't want that

[spiral sigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/617120220661678080/903303316111507476/spider-1.gif

[gritty gull]

these were my save settings

[cinder cradle]

leaf bones are useless

[gritty gull]

ok thanks that doesnt quite solve the problem tho mate

[cinder cradle]

-z forward i think should be z forward

[gritty gull]

yea that fucked it more

[cinder cradle]

it means it is rig problem

[tepid olive]

I'm just imagining that every time you import it into unity it just gets worse and worse until it just fills your screen with furry coloured static

[gritty gull]

i mean, pretty much. it just keeps getting bigger and the bones keep going inside themselves

[cinder cradle]

your head bones have weird connection to hand

[tepid olive]

Move the bones around in pose mode in blender do they move properly

[gritty gull]

ehehehehe

[spiral sigil]

anyone got any recommendations for me to try to make thats horror related?

[tepid olive]

Sexy legs

Well I looked at ur profile picture maybe you could make a really demonic cat

[cinder cradle]

cursed cat

[gritty gull]

nothing is working

[cinder cradle]

when i see screenshoot from your unity i can't understand what are bones that are comming from head

[spiral sigil]

its a start ig

[gritty gull]

death sounds nice

[spiral sigil]

so far

[cinder cradle]

make like big mouth with bent teeth

[spiral sigil]

uh

polygon

[spiral sigil]

dont get too full of yourself yet heh

its good to be proud but you never want to overdue it at such an early stage

yeah i cant sculpt a cat im too stupid

lol

then this problem happens then you feel like garbadge yeah?

nah. my dad keeps saying you have to fail to succeed

oh good then

1 less problem

[naive vortex]

hey i have a gesture pack that changed my face when i move my hands so if i do middle finger its angry face etc (this pack came with legoshi which is the model i am using) how do i enable it?

[devout scroll]

You want #avatar-help

[naive vortex]

oh yeah sorry, thanks

[spiral sigil]

ears arnt done yet but i tried to make the baby face mask from happy death day

[spiral sigil]

yessir. getting better and better made this mf in like 15 mins prolly 5-7 if i didnt stop working on it to watch youtube

[thin shadow]

in blender, in uv editing tab, how do i make the face selection in the 3d viewport window changes the texture in uv editor automatically according to the face that i clicked?

[devout scroll]

should be automatic if you don't have your current texture pinned at the top of the uv widow

[thin shadow]

ahh alright I got it. Such a small trivial setting that I can easily miss. Thank you.

[devout scroll]

[spiral sigil]

How do you guys animate your 3d work for like a video presentation? Like what software do you do it in

if you wanted to showcase physics quickly or something

just in unity?

[cinder cradle]

you can do that in blender

[devout scroll]

yea, blender physics simulations are pretty easy to setup for simple things

[spiral sigil]

oh okay thanks

[edgy lily]

sorry if wrong channel. I found this really nice model , its textures are inside the zip file but idk how to add them

[median pike]

Keep in mind, sculpting the high poly is only if the of stages of asset creation. You have to do retopology, rigging, unwrapping, baking and so on

[median pike]

In the shading tab. Add a image texture node, open the texture with it and plug it in to the right channel. Do that for every material. If you don't know what any of what I just said means you should watch some basics blender tutorials first

[edgy lily]

alright thanks!

[edgy lily]

just one question. Wheres the shading tab

[devout scroll]

at the top

[median pike]

^^

[edgy lily]

oooo found it ty

idk if i am doing it right so far

[median pike]

Than watch a tutorial

[devout scroll]

it's probably easier to use the panel on the right than to manually do nodes

but Google it yeah

[median pike]

Idk how to add an image texture to a shader without using nodes

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[devout scroll]

right side material panel under base color you can pick image texture and then assign it

it creates the node for you, you just don't need to do it yourself

[spiral sigil]

very ez ye

[wicked osprey]

I have a mesh that I want to retopo, as it has too many tris, yet I've noticed that, when I look at it in edit mode in blender, it has non flat faces and an unapplied subdivision modifier (first image). When I do apply the modifier, I can see the 'true' flat faces (that are a lot more than what was shown before applying it, second image). My question is, why is it done like this, and can this setup be used to make an easy retopo? Thanks

[rain fjord]

can i export 2 objects from blender as one into substance painter?

[median pike]

No it cant

It's just displayed like that to make it easier to view. If you turn off "optimal display" in the subdiv modifier you will see the real topo

Faces can't bend like that. It's impossible for them

I mean technically you could use a lower subdiv level as your low poly and a higher subdiv level as your high poly

But idk if that's what you're looking for

[wicked osprey]

ahh ok got it, at least I guess I can use the mesh with the unapplied modifier as a 'guide' for the actual retopo in a duplicate? not sure if that's a thing

[median pike]

I mean

When I retopo

I use my high poly and use a shrinkwrap modifier on my low poly to copy the shape

[wicked osprey]

ahh alright I see

I'll have to review a couple tricks on how to do this efficiently

thanks a lot @median pike

[languid fog]

First time doing smth Low poly + sci-fi

[median pike]

Looks cool. What's the polycount?

[cinder cradle]

Yes it looks cool

[tepid olive]

almost done with the base model

[devout scroll]

https://puu.sh/IAX18/7f89e4bde6.mp4

@median pike all the stuff in the material panel is the same as in nodes

I usually don't use it but maybe I should as it's faster

[median pike]

I knew that, I just didnt know you can add nodes by clicking the circles

thats cool tho

[rain fjord]

how do i fix these shading issues? i already have auto smooth on before u ask

[languid fog]

15k tri

thats the basic shape

52 tris + mirror X and Z

[median pike]

neato

I was expecting a lot more tbh

[languid fog]

you dont need high poly to look good tbh

and well that's for vrc, so i try my best to use the less poly that i can for optimization

i dont think ppl like to play vrc in 15fps

[rain fjord]

anyone?

[languid fog]

can you show me the wireframe view?

[rain fjord]

@languid fog same areas?

[languid fog]

yep

[languid fog]

thats probably bc of ngons

try using auto smooth

or Geometry Data

[rain fjord]

i literally just said i already have autosmooth on in my first post

but what should i have checked under geometry data?

[languid fog]

did you tried changing the angle ?

[rain fjord]

@languid fog yup

[devout scroll]

you should save yourself the trouble and just don't connect the edges

unless you have quads you'll probably lways get shading issues like that

you can try selecting the underside and calculating normals from faces

but i dunno if that's gonna help

[rain fjord]

@devout scroll can u be more specific than "underside"

[devout scroll]

underside of the desk or whatever it is

the big flat bit

[rain fjord]

and how do i calculate the normals from those faces?

[rich scarab]

guys, if i want to start in the 3d omodeling, should i start in blender?

[devout scroll]

press f3 and search for it, it should tell you where it is as well

[devout scroll]

yes, and find tutorials on youtube

[rich scarab]

okey, thanks

is difficult?

i know that is, but if i want to create one avatar in less of 2 months, can i?

[rain fjord]

oh are u talking about recalculating inside/outside?

[devout scroll]

no, you can calculate from a few things, you want from faces in this case

recalculating is pretty much only useful when some of your face normals are flipped

should be in the same menu somewhere

[rain fjord]

in the f3 menu? what's it actually called

[devout scroll]

f3 is just search, just type from faces and find it, should say normals on the right

but it will probably tell you it's in the normals menu which is alt+N i think

[rain fjord]

set from faces?

[devout scroll]

yes

[tepid olive]

baby man

god i put this in mixamo and it looks like an alien lmao

aight looks normal lets look at the skeleton

what in the actual fuck

i mean it works perfectly fine

only problem i've seen is that the hands clip into the ground

i think its expecting shorter arms

tbh the arms do look really long

[cinder cradle]

wow that looks bizzare

the glitch ofc

this model is good for auto rig

[tepid olive]

thank u ☺️

biggest problems i can see is that his legs and arms are too long compared to his torso

arms are way too thin too

[cinder cradle]

yes you need shorten them

[spiral sigil]

probably because the arms are for the most part tubes and no like muscular contours

and also since its not textured at all its like grey alien

👽

[cinder cradle]

Bogos binted?

but anime characters usually have tuby arms

[celest gate]

Hey, is there a good website or a specific term for seeing an anime character (or similar) from all perspectives (you know, front, side, back etc) as reference material? wanna try model an avatar 1:1 first time in blender .-.

[spiral sigil]

I second that question because I havent found an abudant source of that only like that scattered across random corners of the internet

would be nicer to have a wider selection

[tepid olive]

He's just a young boy ☹️

He ain't got any muscle

[spiral sigil]

put him in the gym

[gusty bloom]

when rigging/modelling avatars, is there a certain distance i should have betweeen the eyes or would it not matter

[cinder cradle]

doesn't matter

[gusty bloom]

ty

[spiral sigil]

made an alien

[calm goblet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnj2BL4chaQ&list=PLn3ukorJv4vuU3ILv3g3xnUyEGOQR-D8J

[thorny ivy]

Alright, got a weird issue with CATS.

Basically, it's causin' Blender to freeze up whenever I use the "apply as rest pose" feature. No idea why.

Ya'll ever have a similar issue?

[spiral sigil]

what blender version u in

u might be in a version too new for it but idk if they updated to 3.0 yet

it says 2.83 on most recent git post

[thorny ivy]

2.93

[spiral sigil]

o big typo lol

thx

[thorny ivy]

Well, that's the version I'm usin', actually.

But I probably should be checkin' up for updates more regularly.

Alright, looks like purgin' orpahn assets helps.

I also deleted the lineart shaders (relatively new feature) an' think that was causin' an the hang-up.

Think it was still renderin' 'em even though they were technically disabled.

[spiral sigil]

silly goose

[thorny ivy]

Yeah, that's on me.

Still, appreciate the help.

[spiral sigil]

no problem

[exotic parrot]

How do I paint in blender

[languid fog]

texture paint

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnRQhH3fEDY

[exotic parrot]

But what if I'm using a model like this

Where I'm trying to paint specific parts

[quaint jasper]

That's what texture painting is for

[spiral sigil]

are you asking how to temporarily isolate specific parts to paint on

idk if old blender has it or wit the same hotkey but if u go to Edit mode and select faces u want to paint on only do that, and then go to Texture paint mode and hit "m" for mask

[hushed gyro]

do you need to use such an old version of blender to do something specific? because in the newer versions you can select an area, hit the mask button in the top left and paint what you selected.

[exotic parrot]

Yes I do

I dont have open gl for the newer versions

[lament pond]

A large group photo of many models I've made

[quaint jasper]

Impressive work

[exotic obsidian]

I hope to get on your level some day lol

On that note, where did you learn how to model?

[magic stirrup]

Hey @quaint jasper, I found your Froggy Car avatar on vrc and I've been using it a lot. I wanted to customize it a bit, add some custom emotes or something, is there anyway you could direct me to where i could find the model/animations for the avatar?

[spiral sigil]

ima start naming these things. "The Smiler"

[tepid olive]

what ya think of this ol fucker?

[tepid olive]

another c:

different angle

[quaint jasper]

Made all of it myself, but have no plan on distributing it, I'm open to ideas/requests however

[wet ingot]

Oooo

Very nice

[spiral sigil]

kinda looks like fortnite zombie not bad

[tepid olive]

a fuckin what now

[spiral sigil]

they had some halloween event with like zombies and crystals and killing them

like 2 years ago

[tepid olive]

e

[spiral sigil]

My creations are getting ugly now. I should step up my sculpting

[nimble glade]

Hey, Gotten this error again, Tried going back to 2.93 but it hasn't worked 💦

[thorny ivy]

Ya'll got any tips for thinnin' necks/flattenin' shoulders? Overhaulin' a model an' the new version is a lot thicker in those areas, not all that fond of it.

Actually, now that I've got a decent comparison, doesn't look too bad...

[exotic parrot]

I cant see the color on my avatar

I colored it before

But when I attached a piece to the model now it's like focused on it

I don't know how to look at my colors now

[quaint jasper]

You're in the object panel on the right side

[exotic parrot]

What am I supposed to be in

?

To be more specific I cant see the textures on the body anymore

@quaint jasper

[quaint jasper]

Did you switch the shading mode in the bottom left corner ?

[exotic parrot]

Smooth and flat?

No I didnt mess with those

[tepid olive]

U gotta go to textured mode to see ur textures

[exotic parrot]

How do I do that

[exotic parrot]

?

Figured it out

But now the textures on the headpiece are not showing

Supposed to show like this

[formal bridge]

I have a thing that I'm trying to fix for past few days - eyes are in this position only for me (other people see them normally) and only in vr mode (I see them ok in desktop). Someone has any idea what it can be? Eye bones are set up correctly, but tryed to change their position too - same result, in eye look setup they turn in a weird way

[spiral sigil]

shot it the dark but do you happen to use any mods for vrchat?

[formal bridge]

This isn't happening with any other avatar I have saved/uploaded so it's not the thing

[rich tendon]

🤭

[spiral sigil]

That may be true but for troubleshooting sake its best you completely delete your vrchat game files (manually, if you do it with steam it wont remove the mods), restart ur pc, reinstall vrchat back and try again

important you do it that way and that way procedurally

oh and might as well delete the cache too after the game files are deleted

[formal bridge]

Eh, might give it a shot tomorrow

[spiral sigil]

u can also email support about it

im sure they would have an idea

[formal bridge]

Will do if I fail, could be a bug. Thanks and gn

[spiral sigil]

gn

[exotic parrot]

How do I upload my model to vrchat

I have the sdk

[rich tendon]

What part are you on?

[exotic parrot]

The model is ready and rigged

[rich tendon]

Go to #avatar-help

[exotic parrot]

I wanted to test it

[spiral sigil]

Ive got a model i want to port from blender

[rich tendon]

Export or import

[spiral sigil]

i have model in blender that a friend textured for me but when i open the blend file it is untextured

so i guess export

[spiral sigil]

made some weird scared guy in 15 minutes

or less

[spiral sigil]

le troll

[limber walrus]

there are some models in blender that when using the grab in sculpt tool wont move until you go into edit mode like your trying to grab it nothing happens but then go on to edit mode and then you can see where you been grabbing it, just so you know in this pic ive actually moved it but its not moved on screen well to appear to of moved when i click it

here is some examples when i click on edit mode and is showing it actually moved

so how do i make it so i can see what im doing when using the sculpt tool

[dull pier]

first of all, why blender 2.7 . make sure you don't have a shape key selected in edit mode (make sure basis is selected.)

[spiral sigil]

I cant send a photo because apparently the arm of my model is deemed explicit so uh. I have a ball joint that refuses to rig properly I want it to stay still while the arm remains attached to it if anyone can help me with this please send me a message. I'm working with the nardoragon base.

[median pike]

I am having an issue with data transfer, I am trying to transfer normals from one mesh to another but whenever I apply the modifier all my shape keys stop working, they are still there, they just dont move any verticies anymore. I dont remember this being an issue on older blender versions

[spiral sigil]

in the modifier settings is there things about shapekeys?

if there is then trial and error with that and see if it works

[median pike]

nope

nothing about shapekeys

[median pike]

yeah turns out its a bug in 3.0

[spiral sigil]

rollback to 2.93 or something then

[spiral sigil]

how do I make a keyframe for a ColorRamp Key? Trying to make the emission pulse and waver in intensity

its not recording the change when i do it

with the record button on

[rich scarab]

how can i add a shader to blender?

[spiral sigil]

goto the Shader tab at the top, and select the material u want to edit shaders with in the shader graph

your materials should come with just a Princibled BSDF shader feeding into the Surface of a Material Output node

similar to how you can call up the menu to add primitives in the 3d viewport, u can do Shift+A to cal up a menu to get shader ndoes

make sure u mouse is inside the shader area thing it matters

I have animation stuff on the left it wont be there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moKFSMJwpmE

[rich scarab]

thanks

i started doing my first 3d avatar

only the 3d base

i want to practice and do some 3d models, like cars, donuts (reference), etc

should i practice only avatars? or do all type of 3d models?

[spiral sigil]

i would ask anyone else that since im not exactly excelling

ive been all over the place in what I make

[toxic shuttle]

Is there a specific way hand bones need to be set up? I couldn't find anything official on either VRChat or Unity and if I look up example images I see lots of different ways to do it. The way I have it set up now is with the proximals starting at the point in the middle, but only the inters and distals actually deform. In game, the thumb deforms okay but the rest get pretty screwed up.

[spiral sigil]

made a screaming guy

[spiral sigil]

going to finally start using the steam version of blender so it can track my hours and see how high the numbers get

[simple zodiac]

Congrats but that’s scary

[spiral sigil]

everything i make is supposed to be scary. so thanks for confirming it is 🙂

[cinder cradle]

you can enable mirror mode https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/2.79/editors/3dview/object/editing/transform/mirror.html#:~:text=To mirror a selection along,mesh element has been duplicated.

[spiral sigil]

hey so i rigged a robotic arm i thought in vrchat it was just going to revolve around a point like it did when i rotated it in blender

but Vrchat is actually moving it

anyway i can fix this

[cinder cradle]

moving it like, object is moving from other location to other or moving just arm

you need to add position to animation file

[spiral sigil]

just arm

position to animation hold up

what is that

[spiral sigil]

yeah long story short i had enough dedication to this thing to redraw almost the whole head

[obsidian nova]

Jesus, why…

[craggy lintel]

hey guys

just so you can save my anxiety

i can remap something that has shapekeys and is on an avatar right

[craggy lintel]

Are we forced to do the adobe version of substance

[quaint jasper]

nope

[craggy lintel]

Hey Ruubick, honestly, could you tell me which version of substance is best? Adobe or Non Adobe, I just want best experience and nothing bad haha

[vivid crater]

they still have perpetual with 1 year of updates on steam
if anything, after the adobe update the shelf loads your assets faster and other qol improvements like being able to save color swatches

[sonic basin]

when i make my model blink in unity it goes from this

[craggy lintel]

sigh

[sonic basin]

to this

[craggy lintel]

this is a sad day. i hate monopolies

[sonic basin]

does anybody know what might be causing it?

[cinder cradle]

you do blinking as animation?

[sonic basin]

shape key

[cinder cradle]

you created shape key in blender?

[sonic basin]

yes, and it worked fine for a while untill suddenly it started doing whatever the hell that is

[cinder cradle]

it seems like it removes everything besides eye lids

[sonic basin]

it doesn't have any problems in blender so idk what is up

[cinder cradle]

if it worked before did you done anything before it stopped working?

[sonic basin]

i really don't know what could have caused it, all i did was over time slowly adjust the arms and legs to make them more realistic

erm i kept deleting and re importing it and now it's somewhat working?

[cinder cradle]

hmm tbh i have no clue i have some theory but dk if it could be true

[craggy lintel]

we still use unity render pipeline for substance, right?

[sonic basin]

pardon me what? why and hell does the blink make the model have this many!? the model has never once even been above 90k

[carmine dove]

it needs an autofix applied!

happened to me, let me find the answer hold on

[sonic basin]

2,147,483,647 is like wtf

[cinder cradle]

it seems like every frame of shape key creates new avatar

that is weird

[obsidian nova]

You need to check “read-write” on in your model import settings…

Yeah…

[carmine dove]

open the vrc sdk settings and go to build, i did it from there

[sonic basin]

also thanks, it shot back down to 26k

[carmine dove]

[sonic basin]

dayum that number was insaine tho

[carmine dove]

yeah when it happened to me i was like lmao???

project u good?

[sonic basin]

i was thinkin "did i make this model with rabbits instead of vertices?"

[copper oak]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2,147,483,647

probably assumes the worst since it can't be sure what it is without read/write enabled.

[warm plank]

I have a question: my avatar has a material on the body that I want to change color when I speak. I have two shape keys in blender, one for each color (basis is 1 color, Speak is second color). I'm trying to make this work in unity now, and I'm getting lost trying to figure it out.
I've heard to use animator states, but I'm not sure where to start
am I on the right track?
(Edit: Posting in a couple channels, not sure what category this falls under and who can help me)

[quaint jasper]

I'm just using the latest version before the adobe update still, but that's a personal choice

[spiral sigil]

trying to make rtx squidward

[spiral sigil]

made it like this in 15 minutes

[spiral sigil]

i wanted to make my own

[tepid olive]

ralsei

[rich tendon]

anyone know why my blender is saying this

and how to fix

[quaint jasper]

You need to use the autodesk fbx converter

Blender doesn't read ASCII format, it's only Binary

[rich tendon]

how can i get that?

[quaint jasper]

The internet

[rich tendon]

lmao ight thanks smh

[craggy lintel]

Deviantart assets are a pain

[spiral sigil]

what program do I need to start creating avatars?

[cinder cradle]

Blender

[spiral sigil]

I'm well versed in Adobe CC suite but want to get into 3d modelling

thanks. Can I assign animations in blender as well? or do I need a seperate app for that?

[cinder cradle]

Hmm you can make animations in blender as well as assign them

[spiral sigil]

A different person mentioned Unity. Is that a crucial app for building avatars?

[languid fog]

for vrc

yes

[cinder cradle]

Yup

[spiral sigil]

Unity is a paid app right?

[languid fog]

no

[cinder cradle]

no for personal use

[spiral sigil]

Oh great

🙂

[cinder cradle]

Unity is used to upload and customize avatar not make one

[spiral sigil]

Is this the correct channel to discuss these topics? or should I be in the Avatars sections

[cinder cradle]

It is fine channel since you asked where to model avatar

[spiral sigil]

Thanks. I plan to deep dive into youtube and skillshare later on

[cinder cradle]

Skillshare is good thing to learn

[spiral sigil]

How long have u guys been 3d modelling

I use photoshop/illustrator/aftereffects daily so I'm hoping the learning curve wont be too steep

[cinder cradle]

personally 7 years ago started for fun and it is my hobby

[spiral sigil]

Thats awesome

I just got introduced to VR and im quite inspired...

I think its going to absolute game changer

in terms of retail experiences, digital marketing, and just social communication/experiences.

[cinder cradle]

It will be if meta gonna progress more and give epic vr devices for cheap

[spiral sigil]

Its inevitable

[cinder cradle]

Other company will follow them up and it gonna be common to use

[spiral sigil]

Yes, I think this is just the beginning

Really inspiring stuff. Excited to be part of it

[cinder cradle]

Remember that at beginning you gonna be often frustrated bcs something doesn't work but don't give up

[spiral sigil]

Agreed, thats why Im happy to find channels here for support

[azure rain]

yeah this is definitely a good place to ask questions

and I might suggest for your first model you try a prop as character modeling is quite complicated

[spiral sigil]

I was hoping blender would have M1 support by now

[cinder cradle]

Blender works with m1

i think i seen other people test it in m1

Yes it does

[cinder cradle]

https://www.blender.org/download/release/Blender3.0/blender-3.0.0-macos-arm64.dmg/

[celest gate]

I don't know why but somehow this looks so wrong... looks like I gonna need to take a whole "model an anime girl/boy in blender" tutorial .-.

[cinder cradle]

best thing to have is 2d front and side view

it can be fixed tbh

[spiral sigil]

Thanks Whiren

[calm goblet]

polymodelling is an awkward way to make organic shapes as well, i find it helps to have some references of actual people as well so you can see what the anime is simplifying

where i've marked anatomy parts that's where you need photos of people so you can see what's being simplified and actually add it

like it or not anime does obey anatomy

probably help to get some references of anime figurines as well, statues, things like that

they do a good job of showing anime in 3d

[languid fog]

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/XfDDWXtgH5urbGrlZlHkS6MLp5zsg17vXwaETe1rxRU/%3Fwidth%3D463%26height%3D670/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/908488788890763304/930255339994091590/unknown.png?width=463&height=669

i hate male anatomy

;-;

[cinder cradle]

you can fix it with sculpting

[languid fog]

thats what i doing

[true horizon]

Where do i find where to apply a hair_substancepainter file?

[spiral sigil]

face is not neutral dont try to copy the one ref exactly you will copy the expression in the ref

[calm goblet]

are you trying to polymodel accurate anatomy?

if you are....you're completely insane

[languid fog]

ofc not accurate but similar

[spiral sigil]

wish i could do something like that

[calm goblet]

still completely insane

why wouldn't you just sculpt and retopo?

[languid fog]

bc idk how to sculpt

[calm goblet]

perfect time to learn 😛

[cinder cradle]

Couldn't be more perfect

it isn't super hard if you just learn what tools do

and how to control them

[calm goblet]

the hard part is learning the anatomy and stuff, learning the tools is easy

[cinder cradle]

i always 2d draw something i want make haha

[calm goblet]

i can't draw for shit

i just sculpt

[cinder cradle]

i can't sculpt without looking what i gotta do

cursed me

[calm goblet]

neither can i

it's called getting some fucking refs

[cinder cradle]

in my case making

[calm goblet]

you'd be better off using proper refs 😛

[cinder cradle]

you are saying i can't draw >:|

[calm goblet]

yes

[cinder cradle]

well excuse me princess

[calm goblet]

i'm saying our squishy imperfect human brains will never be as reliable as having real images of real things to draw from

[cinder cradle]

true 😐

[calm goblet]

can't beat having pureref up one one monitor with all your refs and inspirations for a particular piece there while you're working

[spiral sigil]

yes. im the guy that attempted to redraw the hair by scratch. and half of the beard thank for asking 🥲

[celest gate]

fake news! JK, thanks for your markers, its my first "human shape" model, gonna try to fix it and still gonna do a complete head/body model tutorial, just to get the feeling and practice for it! But tbh it still kinda fucks my brain up because I worked for more then 15 years only with 2D/photoshop/drawings etc and somehow is my brain not handling a dimension more really well 😂

[native wharf]

Yo, is there anyone that does modelling for commissions in here? Or anyone that can help me with my project? I have an issue with a character that has something incredibly specific about his jaw but I also suck at modelling and idk how to use the sculpting tools.

[calm goblet]

if you've been drawing for that long try sculpting rather than modelling, it'll feel more natural i think

sculpt your shapes then retopo over them, that way you don't have to figure out the topology at the same time as figuring out the shapes, gives you way more freedom

[merry cedar]

will it be a problem when rigging if i already have the head attached to the body

[quaint jasper]

https://ask.vrchat.com/c/commissions/avatar-commissions/35

[celest thistle]

So im wanting to get a building model (building club) done for a new FBT club Im designing. Problem is I hate blender. Where can I find someone that would be up for this job for a reasonable price?

[native wharf]

Ooo, thanks! It's just been hard to find someone that doesn't do exclusively furry avatars or eboy lookin avatars

[native wharf]

I also just had like five scammers dm me from here so uh... Yeah. ._.

[oak hatch]

Designing Hegao P10-R for VRC. MOI3D is so fecking useful...

Slow and steady.

[tardy elm]

I'm not sure why, but every time I try to edit the one VRoid model (yes, to resemble my profile pic) using sculpt, it causes the model to break in unusual ways. I know this is a bit of an odd question to ask here, but are there any character creation programs similar to VRoid that allow you to make plus size characters? (I'm going to regret asking this here, aren't I?)

I just want to have avatars that aren't 2 models bashed into 1, and also have them be compatible with Craftopia because supposedly that's possible.

[calm goblet]

nah it'll be fine, absolutely no issues with your mesh being a single thing or multiple things

[calm goblet]

vroid topology and setup is horrible for editing yourself in anything other than vroid, i'd recommend daz if you're gonna do that and then you retopo the model when you're done

cause you can't use genesis meshes in something like vrchat

as for craftopia....never heard of it so can't say

[tardy elm]

I use CATS which makes VRoid compatible with VRC, CVR, and NVR.

Or somewhat compatible...

[calm goblet]

as long as you rig it with a compatible skeleton then you should be good

you could just edit the skeleton from a vroid model if it export with it

[oak hatch]

Design Doll, but that program is rudimentary and doesn't include rigging.

[tardy elm]

I guess I could give it a Mixamo rig, then just clean up the weight paints.

[languid fog]

https://ask.vrchat.com/c/commissions/avatar-commissions/35

You have a lot in fiverr, Gumroad, booth, etc, etc

[languid fog]

This is look like solidworks for some reason hahaha

Cool model btw

[oak hatch]

Ye, it's like an inbetwen of Solidworks and blender, it's really a weird program

[languid fog]

Interesting

Ik how to use a bunch of CAD programs and thats why i noticed it hahaha

[oak hatch]

Yeah, same here; I'm actually more comfortable in ACAD and Inventor than in Blender tbh.

[spiral sigil]

trying to do a remake of snotty boy

[cinder cradle]

now eyes and hair

[spiral sigil]

i made that in 15 mins

i made the other head

in like 30 minutes

possibly 5 tbh

[cinder cradle]

wow it's him

[shell sentinel]

Hey guys, I'd like to add this facial markings to my model, my only problem is the face texture of my model is not setup to where I'm able to easily edit the face the UV is really weird and as I'm on quest I can't use any alpha blending shaders to use pngs is there an easy way for me to cut this out and then shape it around my models face without using transparency

[spiral sigil]

ive improved from this

[soft hornet]

Is anyone here a maker avatar?

I want to have my own avatar for ouctlets quest 2.

[surreal flame]

You can either paint it directly onto the face texture using the image as a stencil, or you can model it as actual geometry and transfer it onto the face using shrinkwrap modifier.

[shell sentinel]

Yeah I've already tried shrink-wrap and it looked pretty scuffed ill try the other method though, thank you

[spiral sigil]

i just watched barnyard. and i dont think i regret modelling this

[calm goblet]

you can get your textures into photoshop or something, then use your mesh transform to bend those markings onto your face

or you can do some projection painting in blender

use that as a stencil to paint on your model

there's a lot of ways to make it work

[nimble cape]

My new Series... I lost my account from a hacker... and starting my Mortimer Series..

Gonna make 100 Mortimers

Or Cursed Mickeys*

[shell sentinel]

The thing a out that is the textures UV is one square is super weird, im going to try something today

[calm goblet]

use the albedo to get your landmarks, you hsould have some colour variations that tell you where everything is

[shell sentinel]

If I show you the texture ot might help understand, this isn't a normal face texture

It uses that box on the top right as the entire face so I can't put the facial markings on this because there's no real shape of a face to work on theres an eye brow but underneath that is not where the texture for the eye is its super weird

I get what you mean though but that would only really work for something like this right? And i can't make a UV that looks like this

[spiral sigil]

real

[untold schooner]

anybody see smiling friends yet

[spiral sigil]

y e s

[calm goblet]

oh it's one of those models, yeah just use projection painting

get your model in blender, use the pattern as a stencil paint it on, enjoy the way some parts look nice and clean and others will probably look pixelly

[shell sentinel]

I'm currently just cutting it out instead n the I can go into sculpt mode and shape it around my avatars face, bot the best way I could've done this as far as optimisation goes but atleast it'll look alot better

[shell sentinel]

Not the prettiest result but it works for me

The sides don't matter too much as my hair blocks it

[flat aspen]

Can someone explain to me how in this video at 3:44 he's able to rotate the bone and edit the weight paint. I know how to rotate bones. But if i leave the bone in a different position it stays like that and doesn't go back to normal. https://youtu.be/4fICQmBEt4Y?t=224

[lament pond]

Wip

[hollow terrace]

Im working on learning how to bring one of my characters to life for VRC and I was wondering if anyone knows if the youtube tutorials by Mako Ray ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV8WgcwqCzY&t ) are a good starting point. If not, could anyone recommend me a playlist or video class? Im looking to make my character from scratch, I have a lot of experience in digital art, but pretty much nothing when it comes to Blender.

[quaint jasper]

I love the silhouette !

[round niche]

@hollow terrace well blender has a shortcut heavy workflow, so you should learn boxmodeling & tools first. for a good start the donut tutorial by blender guru is always a good start to learn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIoXOplUvAw

[hollow terrace]

Alrighty, thanks much! I'll probably be here asking way to many questions over the next few months. Hopefully I don't get too annoying haha

[round niche]

oh dont worry! question are there for to be asked 🙂

[hollow terrace]

Im blazing through this tutorial series. I'ts so exciting to be trying a new medium. I've got all these ideas in my head for what I want to do with my avi, I cant friggin wait

[round niche]

awesome! but dont over do it, most creative people like myself tend to burn out, do step by step and keep care of yourself! happy blender noise

[hollow terrace]

Yeah, I've been there before a few times with drawing. But I make sure to take breaks and pace it all out. Plus, now that I'm learning this, if I need to take a break from it, I can just go draw. I kind of go crazy if I go more than a day or two without drawing, but if I draw too much I get burnt out, so I think having these two things to swap between will really help my workflow and depresso at the same time =3=

I appreciate you suggesting this guy, I'm about halfway through part 6, and so far I've only had a couple hiccups, which were things that he mentioned might happen. He's really good at laying it all out. I remember seeing his tutorials when I was younger and wanting to try 3D and scoffing at the donut idea. I ended up trying to follow another person's lesson and it was just too fast and confusing. Wish I had just watched the dang thing all those years ago.

[round niche]

yeah! and the best thing is, he always redo the tutorial serie with new blender versions! amazing person for real.~!

[hollow terrace]

So I remember seeing an avatar that pressed a button on its physical model, and then they got some cool gundam style armor and a gunsword, with an animation of it deploying and everything
Is that kind of thing still possible in game? It was a long time ago.
Even as an amateur, I already know that kind of thing would be hella advanced, but Im just curious.

[round niche]

well i guess should be, im still a bit new in unity, but a master in unreal, so in the end it would be some mask map and one float value to control the effect

but yeah, if i have the time i can learn some shader stuff in unity

but first i have to master the damn unity ui, drives me still crazy 😄

[cinder cradle]

The pressing button was probably animation

not hard to do

[hollow terrace]

No like I used it and it was literally a little gauntlet that you pressed a button on

could have been gesture, but like you put your index finger out, and the button lit up, and then did the thing when you pressed it

[cinder cradle]

Tbh it could be done with many methods

i think some are now impossible in new sdk

sadly

[hollow terrace]

Well as long as theres a way, thats all I need to know haha.
I know its going to take at least a few months before I'm close to pulling this off, but man Im so excited

[cinder cradle]

easiest way in my opinion is play animation when someone click the button now

you can be creative with that

[hollow terrace]

I DJ a lot in Vrc, for friends and events alike, and my idea was to model my main OC, and then have him pull like a ripper cord from his wristband that plays the animation and changes him into a sort of floating post-cyberpunk style DJ with a hovering turntable. The dream would to have it be audio responsive to my input, but who knows if thats even possible.

[cinder cradle]

It is possible but as i see it's not easy to set up but it's possible

First focus on making model than focus on sdk

[hollow terrace]

yeah for sure

just satisfying my curiosity. Knowing that its possible now makes me want to keep going even more haha

[cinder cradle]

The hardest part would be setting it in sdk i see you already have idea in your head so making 3d model won't take you long

[hollow terrace]

what do you mean by setting it? Like importing it from Blender, or setting up the actual functions after importing the model/animations to sdk?

[cinder cradle]

Yes when you gonna make model and animations setting them in sdk could be hard, sometimes there are no specific tutorials for what you want

[hollow terrace]

gotcha, well Im glad Im here then, because I'll surely need help

[spiral sigil]

You might want to take a look at blendshapes for any simple smooth transformations you want to make with the mesh. And also have a look at poiyomi's shader which has an audio link module reactive with any worlds that have audio link.

[hollow terrace]

So Im learning modeling in blender right, but should I also do animations there or will it be easier to move it to unity and make the animations there? A lot of the stuff I've seen about vtuber and vrc avis mentions moving models over to unity but im not sure if thats pre or post animation.
Im just gonna focus on modeling for now, just want to ask before I hit that bridge

[spiral sigil]

Personally I'd animate everything in unity

[hollow terrace]

Alright, does that include rigging and stuff as well?
Like the only thing I should be doing in Blender is making the actual model I gather?

[spiral sigil]

No rigging should be done in blender

Your model should be imported into unity when everything is set up

Uv's, blendshapes, weightpainting etc.

[hollow terrace]

Alrighty, sounds good. Ill look into it. Thanks a bunch, I'm sure ill be back with more questions.
Just gonna focus on learning the actual modeling process for now

[surreal flame]

The bone stays like that because it's effectively pose mode. To reset the bone to its default position you need to reset rotation/scale/translation, whatever you did, with Alt+R/S/G.

[cerulean shoal]

the emoji man 😜

[spiral sigil]

tryna make a body

[gritty quarry]

norman interpol evil

[calm goblet]

you mean the donut tutorial that tells you absolutely nothing about absolutely everything and takes a year to finish, only to find you didn't actually learn anything?

grant's complete beginner series is a much better bet for newbies

[delicate wagon]

Where would one go to find someone to give (voice chat) assistance to a friend of mine who's trying to use blender to do vr chat avatar stuff

[obsidian nova]

I sped run the whole series over 2 days…lmao. It’s not that long. 🤷‍♂️ It’s a really good series for familiarizing yourself with the UI and all of the tools (which is what overwhelms most beginners).

In the interest of brevity, he leaves out A LOT regarding HOW to use the tools though…That we can agree on. 🙌

[calm goblet]

it's good for someone coming from another software to just learn where stuff is

useless for actually learning the fundamentals or how things actually work

[spiral sigil]

remember when you said im not a 3d artist at all? welp look what i made in avatar showcase.

[calm goblet]

i said just using a generator doesn't mean you're a 3d artist, making your own shit means you are 😛

[flat aspen]

What would be the best wait to join these meshed at the seams. It's all one object. But there's seams everywhere How would i join them?

[quaint jasper]

If the mesh is disconnected, then doing a bridge edge loops between the two edges might work well enough

[flat aspen]

Ok. That worked for like the wrist. but for some stuff it didn't what worked was selecting the mesh in edit mode and selecting merge by distance. it worked for the shoulder seams and most of the other parts i had a problem with.

[quaint jasper]

[flat aspen]

How would this be fixed. All the textures are off the same model. And the seams are fixed where they're actually joined. But i get this weird skin tone effect when i put the normals for each part. I was able to make the face that looks extra shiny the same as the chest area but for the normal i had to really lower the strength.

Since this is just in blender would this be fixed in unity when i used one of the vrchat shaders?

[quaint jasper]

Your normals are likely flipped, in edit mode, select everything and do Alt + N > Recalculate Outside

[flat aspen]

That didn't fix it.

[quaint jasper]

Try Alt + N > Flip but only on the arm vertices

[flat aspen]

Nope. it just gives it a weird 3d ish tone.

[quaint jasper]

Not sure then, could be your node setup

[flat aspen]

probably. all the nodes are setup correctly. but if it's just the nodes i assume in unity they might get fixed when i add a different shader

[quaint jasper]

It might, could also be another mesh issue but hard to know without being able to look at it further

[flat aspen]

Maybe. If i adjust the normals strength for the face it looks more in line with the chest area. But the arm I couldn't get close enough.

I was hoping that alt+N would of fixed it because i saw it while i was looking up how to fix a different issue but forgot until you told me. Because it's like every mesh is receiving light from a different area.

Oh well. I'll see what the outcome is in unity eventually

[lament pond]

Wip. Placeholder colors.

[modest shell]

When i export my model from a blend to fbx the whole thing looks exploded instead of normal

[cinder cradle]

Go back to blender and hit ctr+a and apply scales and also check if you have right settings in export

[modest shell]

what are the right settings

[cinder cradle]

for example this

also someone had messed avatar because of blend shapes maybe it could be it

[modest shell]

the blend shapes are all good i verified

ty that fixed it , was scared for a second there

[cinder cradle]

ok nice

[craggy lintel]

can you weightpaint through a single line of verticies

more like

is there a way to

i want to

[spiral sigil]

sosig

[calm goblet]

set the normal map image texture node to non-color

common problem, any time i use cycles or eevee i forget as well and have to fix it cause i'm used to working with octane and unreal

[craggy lintel]

Could someone send me something on auto normalizing your weights

I want to see and know everything it Does

Down to the code tbh

[calm goblet]

download blender's source code and look at it

[flat aspen]

Thank you so much that worked.

[spiral sigil]

Hey folks, any idea why a rigged hand will not close completely when using valve index controllers? I was wondering whether this is related to the rig

and whether I can do something about it within Blender

[surreal flame]

I believe the controllers need some finger movement to calibrate properly and sometimes it takes a bit. Perhaps that's it?

[spiral sigil]

i asked in another chanell already but got no solutions i think this is a modelling problem i did so ima ask here

what causes this and how do i fix it

[cinder cradle]

check this post maybe it's same thing #3d-modeling message

[spiral sigil]

wheres the apply scaling bit?

[cinder cradle]

when you click ctr+a there should be scaling in menu

before you do that click on avatar mesh

[spiral sigil]

oh in object mode

[cinder cradle]

yes

[spiral sigil]

ok

i clicked scale and applied

just gonna see if that did a fixxy

[cinder cradle]

also remember about fbx all

[spiral sigil]

no it didnt fix it

Fbx all?

[cinder cradle]

when exporting there is apply scaling window and there you need set fbx all

[cinder cradle]

this

[spiral sigil]

wait settings in export

[cinder cradle]

yes when you click export and as fbx it's there

[spiral sigil]

tbh i didnt even realise there were export settings

[cinder cradle]

mostly you don't need to do there anything

[spiral sigil]

WTF why is the file 17k terrabytes

WHAT

[cinder cradle]

wdym

😮

[spiral sigil]

i think thats a visual bug

ok it didnt work i dont think leme try again

this is driving me nuts because the hand WAS working

[cinder cradle]

You edited something with hand? maybe the uv map broke and now something is overlapping with hand

[spiral sigil]

i did a project from view so that

it loooked nice :(

[cinder cradle]

Check the uv map of the avatar

[spiral sigil]

i smart uv unwrapped the hand

and still...

it is broken

[cinder cradle]

ok can you make copy of project i want to try something

[spiral sigil]

ok

the blender file?

[cinder cradle]

yes

[spiral sigil]

ignore how scuffed it all looks i got lazy sorting stuff

xD

[wicked osprey]

so I have a particle system that consists of a bunch of trails with noise, the problem is that when I go into play mode, the trails have sharp edges when I open the noise module of the particle system, but they become smooth when I close it (I want them to be sharp), why would this be? I'm uploading 2 pictures to show what I mean (left: sharp edges, right: smooth)

[flat kayak]

So trying to learn how to add clothes

Can't get this to fit to save my life ;-;

very new to this

[spiral sigil]

@flat kayak idk if this is effective but!

id dupe the armature

assign the clothes to said armature

and then pose it

delete 1 half

then mirror

[flat kayak]

like

that armature?

i put a question mark

lmao

[flat kayak]

that armature?

[spiral sigil]

no like the bone system

[flat kayak]

?

[muted raven]

I know its been almost a week but yes you need to start with a side view outline and front view outline, from there as you model make sure you follow the outline and before you know it

It Takes so much time finding every little imperfection, Take your time! this isn't something that can be rushed

learning sucks

but it's worth it

[languid fog]

^^

And the most important, enjoy your ride, most of the ppl that i know (included me) tried to rush the 3d learning process so bad that when they achieve smth, they didn't feel the "i did smth good" they only looked for the bad parts of what they achieve, take your time m8.

[muted raven]

Exactly ^^

[ripe night]

Does this mesh have blendshapes attached to it? It looks like you did something that changed the vertex order (adding UV seams could do that) and corrupted the blendshapes

[proven zodiac]

i can make Minecraft mob type models, if anyone wants to use one, or make one lemme know!

[solar fossil]

Time for infinite™️ energy

[warped linden]

anyone have a good fdx for a school bag

???????

[still wadi]

i don't have fdx i got fgx would that work ?

[warped linden]

sure

[native slate]

Looking for criticism on mouth shapekeys. If you see something that looks off, please point it out

[keen tulip]

So this question is more for those that have used Blender animation part and are familiar with it but does anyone here know how to put two animation files together on the same rig model? If so I have a task if you could do it.

I have some animations I want to put on my avatar but some of the animations are split into two files, one for arms, legs, and hips, and one for upper body head, and face. I want to get both files work at once at the same time, then once that’s done it needs to be exported as an FBX file and I can take it from there.

Let me know if any of you can help out and I can explain more in DMs.

[quaint jasper]

Copy the keyframes ?

[keen tulip]

I don’t think I can do that, the animations aren’t FBX files so I can’t put them on unity, plus they aren’t humanoid which is why I need the animation with the model that’s for the rigging to work so that way I can turn that model into humanoid which then I can take the animation from that model on unity.

[quaint jasper]

What are the animations then ?

[keen tulip]

PSA files, that’s why it needs to go into Blender, hook those animations up on the rig, turn them into FBX files so that unity can accept it

The reason why some of the animation files are not together with the other body parts is because it’s to do with transitions.

[quaint jasper]

What kind of transitions ? Any screenshot ?

[keen tulip]

I’ll get back to you, doing something else atm

[spiral sigil]

prolly gonna compress. but ultra 8K textures

you cant see 1 pixel when you zoom in

[dusty heron]

A screenshot doesn't convey that very well

[spiral sigil]

ye

it compressed

but there aint no other way to show it

[obsidian nova]

Trying to make the ReadyPlayer.me avatars more expressive & stylistically unique.

Starting by giving them wider, more expressive eyes (with recessed pupils) and altering the facial structure slightly to make them more stylised

Also finessing the topology, since a lot of it could be better.

[azure rain]

a 8K head texture like that is a colossal waste of vram as even with a VR headset it's never going to render at the full resolution a Oculus Quest 2 has a screen resolution of 1832 x 1920 so even if you were to position yourself so the head takes up the full screen It could only render about like 2K amount of details

[calm goblet]

you lose less when you downres than when you upres though, creating at a higher res then downscaling to fit is generally better

i generally create everything at 4k then scale down as needed

[azure rain]

good point I just was more meaning displaying the 8K in game

[keen tulip]

So I’m not home at the moment but the main reason why the animation are broken into parts is for fluid transitions. Just to make things look more fluid.

Wait

Can I take the key frames from one animation file to paste into the other animation file on unity when putting them on there?

[round niche]

you can copy stuff directly from one blend file to another blend file, if both are open, if thats helps~

[languid fog]

and here i go with another fan art :D

[sullen zinc]

https://youtu.be/hv0_CYS_APg

[spiral sigil]

another head i made. that i tried on

[rain fjord]

should i add a bevel segment or 2 to my low poly since my high poly has bevels?

[subtle jackal]

one segment + adjusted normals can give you the appearance of more bevel without the cost of doing so

https://imgur.com/awjwSOF

[keen tulip]

I’ll give that a shot, so have both of those files open on blender, copy the key frames from one animation and then past it to the other correct?

[rain fjord]

can i snap the size of a part of one object to another?

[spiral sigil]

If I divide my world into separate meshes for each room/hallway, how can I ensure that the textures remain seamless/contiguous? How can I ensure that the UVs are in the correct scale and position?

[quaint jasper]

Make your UVs before the cuts

assuming seamless textures and potentially triplanar mapping

[azure rain]

very nicely done

[thorny ivy]

How do ya harden normals?

Nevermind, just looked it up.

Got a genuine question though, not sure how many here'll actually be able to help with it.

Basically, my avatar's got some clippin' issues in her chest an' backside. She's definitely on the thicker side an' don't plan to change that so need a way to make thin's look natural in-game.

[azure rain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqGFhiP-2mc

[thorny ivy]

Current geo I'm workin' with. Not real sure how to to make the middle-ground an' not have it come out weird regardin' movement/weight paint.

[thorny ivy]

Thanks, I'll definitely be usin' this to spiff up some other models I've got.

[azure rain]

yeah it's quite handy and also can be quite useful on vram usage to you have your edges like that so that you can use a tiling texture instead of having to bake the edges onto a normal map

[rain fjord]

anyone?

[spiral sigil]

might look like an old man. i might give up making this. but im tryna make tighten this time from megamind

[oak sapphire]

good job

[obsidian nova]

Instantly what I thought of…

[spiral sigil]

redid the style of the clothes and made it low poly. use to have 100k polys now it has like 35000

or 32450

and redid the weight paint. now its bussin.

[carmine dove]

how tf do yall make clothes

[quaint jasper]

Duplicate body vertices, Alt + S

[carmine dove]

unfortunately the boobies get in the way of that but i found a tutorial that should work perfectly!!

https://youtu.be/RPeTpDsssLw

[untold schooner]

marvelous designer is good but for quick and dirty stuff the blender cloth brush is great

[calm goblet]

emphasis on dirty, since it doesn't actually account for any of the things that you need for a cloth sim on clothing to look natural

you'd be better off just looking up a reference and using draw sharp and flatten to get some nice folds

[untold schooner]

well if you just want wrinkles for normal baking or something it’s fine

[calm goblet]

yeah, if you don't want them to look like they actually belong there it's fine

if you want them to look natural you have 2 options, simulate the whole piece of cloth or sculpt them in with draw sharp then refine with flatten

cloth brushes are not particularly good for it

[untold schooner]

a few version ago blender added collisions and gravity to the sculpt brush but i dont know if its still there

either way as i said, for stuff that needs to look proper i use marvelous

[carmine dove]

i don't need a realistic cloth sim so it should work well for me. i only create things for vrchat (at the moment)

maybe i misunderstood what u were saying

(i just woke up)

[calm goblet]

yeah i'm saying the cloth brush folds don't actually look like the folds you'd expect on clothing at all, better to very quickly pop up a reference of similar clothing then make the folds yourself with draw sharp and refine with flatten

[spiral sigil]

How do you make a blender file into a unity file? I don't know which channel to put this in but I made an object but don't want it to be a .blend file. Want it as a unity package.

[cinder cradle]

FBX

[spiral sigil]

Just covert it into an FBX? Sorry I am new to technology like this. :)

[cinder cradle]

yes that simple

[spiral sigil]

Bruh. Thank you so much!

[obsidian nova]

@calm goblet if you have the time, then sure…But for a quick and dirty pass, it’s fine.

[calm goblet]

it's actually quicker to get a natural look sculpting them yourself than using the cloth brush

cloth brush you gotta sit there fiddling with it pull ind pushing and pulling and pushing and tweaking things for ages

the draw sharp method it's literally just draw the lines based on your ref, use scrape or flatten to smooth the transition, done in no time

[dire oasis]

I just got blender

How do I use it

[quick hawk]

You open it, say fuck this and delete it 🤣 Blender sucks ass

[dire oasis]

What am I even making

I wanted to make Aquarius Gorefield but what am I even doing

[dire oasis]

Ya know what I give up

[spiral sigil]

i wanted to give up too. but if i did. i wouldnt have made this. from scratch

[dire oasis]

lol I like that

I had no idea what I was doing

[spiral sigil]

tutorials

[spiral sigil]

use a few tutorials

[dire oasis]

oh ok

[spiral sigil]

or you could just learn without any like my dumbass. but i dont recommend that. use some tutorials. make something simple rn

[dire oasis]

like what?

[azure rain]

like some sort of rigid body accessory that you can attach to a avatar would be a good first project

[spiral sigil]

make some random scary heads like me

[azure rain]

like a hat or a backpack or a bracelet

[spiral sigil]

not one of them. but an example

just anything you want