3d-modeling

[spiral sigil]

lighting isnt Flat on default, nor is the color being Texutr

it essentially means its just viewing the texture with no material settings

material settings are irrelevant

[keen dune]

im so sorry i put u through pain

i figured it out

[spiral sigil]

u have much more pain for yourself@to work through

[keen dune]

ye

[spiral sigil]

good on u for starting so early

dont give up ull be ahead of so many people before they ever got to start 3D

[keen dune]

thanks man.

[spiral sigil]

be the best the best there ever was

[keen dune]

no

how much longer is this going to go on

[gleaming cobalt]

How do I import a model I made in unity into blender,

[spiral sigil]

https://youtu.be/-voE4FrU0Ms

i just googled that

[gleaming cobalt]

ty :)

[spiral sigil]

i reccomend you model in Blender though, Unity is a game engine

you made a map with probuilder or something?

[gleaming cobalt]

no

a REALLY REALLY basic model

[spiral sigil]

you can just do that in blender

blender has all the basic shapes that unity does

[lament pond]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/515673984197459971/1026720673801973800/unknown.png

Wip

[quaint jasper]

Sick design !

[pure dagger]

Hey i know you

[covert bloom]

Anyone here can create a avatar for me? My laptop dont have suport for 3D modeling

[tough plover]

your laptop doesn't need to "support" 3D modeling, not really how this works. blender is fairly light, it can run on my 7th gen i5 laptop with integrated graphics

avatar creation takes a lot of time and work, so you better be prepared to pay if you want someone to make an avatar for you

do you have a budget? references?

[pure dagger]

Id recommend joining the vrc traders discord

[magic badge]

Some proper renders of a model I made recently.

[pure dagger]

Love the mask

[magic badge]

🐺

I have made 3 version with differing subdivision counts. I am practicing proper optimization while also not losing much quality.

[pure dagger]

Hear me out, find one vertex thats your favorite, delete everything else, boom quest avatar ready

[magic badge]

Double checking I have perfected all of my skills. Currently trying to find a new company to work for as my current contract ends in november.

[pure dagger]

I wish i knew how to work for companies like that\

[magic badge]

Contract work is stressful.

I only have done hard surface modeling for this company which I am good at. But my true passion lies in characters and enviroments.

I was going to apply as a modeler for the VRC team but situations at the time plus my contract prevented me. Now the position is gone sadly. I will wait.

This may be an accidental repost. Here is a render I did with my models.

I only had the sans modeled at the start. I was tasked on such short notice I only had an hour to do it if I wanted my render to be used. The Hall start to finish including rendering, modeling, And texturing took me only an hour and 10 minutes. Not my best work.

But certainly good speed modeling practice.

[pure dagger]

Spooktality avatar is finished

[keen dune]

I am so fricking close, i dont even want to think about having to do phys bone

[hushed leaf]

That's clever

[keen dune]

Lets go look at how nice this looks

[pure dagger]

Thank you I figured its a skeleton so it's gotta be spooky

[spiral sigil]

Does anyone know where I could find a 3D model of Jacket from Hotline Miami? I’m trying to make a Quest avatar of him and I don’t wanna have to make my own model.

[harsh saddle]

Never played it but it looks like sketchfab has the base body and another with the rooster head so you'd just have to kitbash it together.

[spiral sigil]

I have no idea what that means.

[harsh saddle]

It means taking a part from one model and sticking it on another. That might be as simple as it's going to get unless one of the models there works for your needs.

[spiral sigil]

Oh ok

I’m also looking for a model of the tape recorder he uses in Payday 2

Which might be harder to find

[harsh saddle]

Yeah, there are some tape recorders on Sketchfab but if you want an exact replica, you might need to commission it or get lucky to find it.

[spiral sigil]

How do I make a Quest avatar with sound and particles?

[junior hare]

so ive deduced this issue with this model's eyebrows/pupils down to a z-clipping issue, how would i go about fixing this?

[harsh saddle]

For particle systems, just parent a particle system to the avatar but note that you can only have 2 and having any will give the avatar a poor quality rating so it won't be displayed by default. Quest avatars can't have audio sources.

[harsh saddle]

move them on the z-axis.

[spiral sigil]

Then why have I seen multiple avatars with audio that works on Quest?

[junior hare]

by how much? and would it affect other shape keys?

[harsh saddle]

There are sometimes hacks that can be used but I think a lot of those have been patched so they won't work for new avatars and the old ones that have them tend to get removed after they get noticed.

[harsh saddle]

By enough to stop the z-fighting, you just have to play with it. If you move them using a shape key and then apply that shape key to the basis, it shouldn't affect your other shape keys.

[junior hare]

not sure what you mean by that second part. i was just going to select the relevant parts of the mesh in blender and slightly move them along the Z. would that not achieve the same effect?

[harsh saddle]

You could try it. What messes up shape keys is a bit of a mystery to me, sometimes it will, sometimes it won't. If you make a change as a shape key, there is a little arrow near that panel that allows you to apply the shape key to the basis, basically altering the base shape. I've found that generally doesn't mess up other shape keys but it might not be necessary.

[junior hare]

so save my change as a shape key, then apply to basis? (provided my first process doesnt already fix it without issue)

[harsh saddle]

Yup

[merry trout]

So im working on both my first face made in blender and also im trying to make it vrchat compatible. Problem is how ived done the eyes is conflicting with vrchat, basically im using UV Warp to move the pupils, i know theres a way to do something similiar to uv warp in unity but it seems very difficult, i could just make the pupils a 3d model but then i couldnt do thinks like cutting it off a certain point so it doesnt poke out. Maybe there is a way to do that both works in blender and vrchat if anyone knows?
https://i.gyazo.com/a21571c2309c746f9b99be5283f803c5.mp4

i may have came up with a idea to do the spherical eyes but keep my style of eyes but i am tired and will try it later

[junior hare]

update on the z-clipping problem
so unless i remove the problem mesh, or move it an unrealistic distance away, the problem still appears. HOWEVER
for some reason, the main camera in unity does not render this issue, only the scene camera (the 3d viewport) does

main camera

3d viewport

this is wack

[harsh saddle]

You could publish and see how they look in VRChat. PC generally doesn't have too many issues with z-fighting but Quest has a lot.

[junior hare]

im gonna do that before futzing with it any further

[harsh saddle]

I think there are also ways to get the shader to ignore the depth buffer and always render on top so that might be a question for #shaders

[junior hare]

yeah, messing with the ZTest option proved some results, so ill ask there. using poi pro shader. thanks

[junior hare]

lmao vrc has no issues, its PURELY a unity editor camera thing.

[harsh saddle]

I bet there would be some issues on Quest but PC is pretty good about minimizing z-fighting.

[junior hare]

im not building this avi for quest anyways (at least rn, it has 24 mesh renderers) so one less thing for me to worry about

[harsh saddle]

Ah, then you're good.

[junior hare]

thanks for the help btw

[latent mirage]

so cute of a avatar...

[junior hare]

eheh thanks
booth is a wonderful place

canonically she'd kick your ass in 20 different ways but i dont want to clutter this chat

[muted raven]

moooove over I've got some interesting optimized developments going on here

Should I add frillssssss????

[red glade]

mullet 🕺

[digital jolt]

Yes!!

[oak hatch]

So, quest avatar. With toggleable clothing styles, drink, glow stick, seasonal props, facial expressions, and bone based visemes, and a few other things.

I'm tempted to cram a PVP system in there, for giggles.

[tight quartz]

How do I apply the Cloth modifier.

[tight quartz]

Thank you. :)

[swift jolt]

fast little world i modeld today. now i gotta figure out how to unity again

fast little world i modeld today. now i gotta figure out how to unity again

[bleak agate]

is there someone who can teach me how to make my own avatars 😅

[quaint jasper]

https://youtu.be/5JA0f8ZgIw0

[boreal goblet]

how did tou do that

[glad steeple]

blender?

[boreal goblet]

but how

[glad steeple]

Mouse and keyboard on a PC with the software Blender & Gimp

[stark shale]

in blender is there a way to extrude a face along a path like I can do in solidworks?

[harsh saddle]

Yeah, I haven't done it but I knoe there are tutorials for extruding along a path.

[tough plover]

multiple ways, you could use something like a curve modifier

[mental hazel]

how do i make this all one face

[harsh saddle]

I think you can select all of those edges, hit delete and then "dissolve edges"

[mental hazel]

thank you once again, Krampus

[azure rain]

I would point out it would get turned into a bunch of triangles again once it actually gets into Unity

[harsh saddle]

Yeah, Unity will triangulate everything regardless. Not sure if it would do a better or worse job with one big ngon than a bunch of quad slivers.

Shouldn't be a huge problem so long as everything is flat

[mental hazel]

hm
then could there be a way to align them so they are all straight?

[harsh saddle]

Not sure there is an easy way, you could dissolve all the edges then use the knife tool to make nice parallel slices but you'd still have a lot of extra verts on the perimeter to clean up. I'd probably start with a quad plane, extrude it and then scale the edges to match the silhouette if you want to make it nice but you'll have to do a lot of little adjustments to make it fit the silhouette closely.

You could also start with a plane that covers the entire shape, then make edge loops and adjust them to approximate the shape, then make more edge loops between those edge loops to interpolate. Similar process to the second option but maybe more efficient.

Blender has a remesher but I haven't found it to be very successful for this application, there might be other remeshing tools that work better.

[lament pond]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/422424977728339972/1028557598347239434/Turbo.png

[harsh saddle]

This 3d? If so, you've managed to really get it looking like a drawing. If not, it still looks good.

[void lintel]

when you are testing your weight painting and suddenly Blender turns Spooptober mode

[grizzled linden]

Hey i was wondering if anyone in here knows why this is happening in CATS in Blender :)

[thin shadow]

try with 2.93.x, cats does not support 3.x.x yet

[grizzled linden]

how do i make the colored one into a ball? (unity)

[obsidian nova]

Oh man, this is not how you would model this; if that’s your goal.

If that’s what you’re trying to do, you don’t need it to be all one face, you need it to be a grid-mesh.

Try the retopo modifier in the modifier tab (wrench tab).

[mental hazel]

i dont see the retopo modifier

[empty fox]

It does actually, but only the hidden dev version on their discord (it is on their github, but I have not found anyway to get to it without the link in their FAQ, which is what I am linking to) #703190726447595581 message

[gilded helm]

I'm looking for someone that would be interested in creating a custom world (paid) please let me know asap! Trying to get quotes

[harsh saddle]

I think he means the remesher modifier. I've never gotten that to work for this application but you can try it.

Making it a grid would basically mean not having all the cuts be horizontal but having some vertical cuts as well which would give you cleaner topology, Not sure if that's necessary if it's just a flat plane but I guess its best practices

[rich grove]

????????

the weights should be fine

i tried extruding the shorts a bit

[sharp grove]

is there an easy way for me to blend the normals between 2 unconnected edge loops? i managed to get a nice result with set from faces in one area, but not in another

yeah it's strange, i have places where set from faces works nicely, but other places where it doesn't

[brave swift]

how do i fix this

[fresh isle]

Funny bug fables

[lament pond]

Sorry for the late reply, yeah it is 3D xD. Thanks

[spiral sigil]

just a question i have, how long did it take you to get to the point you're at now with 3D modeling.
it seems like such a daunting thing but I'm really curious.
not directed at anyone in particular just a general question

[harsh saddle]

Like 16 years of doing it very, very occasionally. If you do it daily and use good resources, I'm sure you can pick it up much more quickly. I've seen people make major improvements in a year.

[spiral sigil]

thats a long ass time.
i see a lot of people saying things like "if you take 30% of the time you spend playing video games learning unity or blender instead you'll understand the program in a month"

[harsh saddle]

You can understand how to use Blender fairly quickly, just like you can understand how to use a pencil quite quickly. Using it to make art is another matter. You can progress quite quickly if you're consistent but you're not going to be a master sculptor in a month or even a year.

[spiral sigil]

oh i just mean understanding the features. that's the biggest hurdle for me.
I'm extremely bad with the technical stuff.

today is a day as good as any to start learning

I've already made the doughnut not i gotta think of bigger projects

[azure rain]

maybe try making a couch

[spiral sigil]

oooooh that should be neat

[harsh saddle]

You can learn how all of the tools you'll need to use work in a few videos. Personally, I do all of my base work by taking a cube, subdividing it, applying that modifier, then I go into sculpt mode and turn on dynotopo and do 95% of my work creating the model using the grab, clay, crease, and inflate tools, occasionally snake hook to drag out the body from the neck and the limbs. Then, once that's done, I retopologize which just involves creating a plane and extruding it, moving the vertices, and occasionally using the knife tool and adding loop cuts. There aren't a lot of tools you need to learn to do that but it's learning to use them effectively that takes time.

That's mostly for organic modeling which is what I tend to focus on but there isn't much more to know for hard surface. You will probably want to learn how to inset and bevel, maybe boolean but you don't need to use a lot of exotic tools.

[spiral sigil]

this is the bit i struggle with

[harsh saddle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FTRK5uo6T0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCdhkLUCV8A

[azure rain]

yeah I figured that would be a little more complicated then the donut but not overwhelmingly so and you could play around with cloth simulation

[harsh saddle]

Those two videos cover pretty much everything you need to know.

[spiral sigil]

cloth sim is something I've always wanted to try but never went out of my way to figure out how

will get to that next time i use blender

thanks for the advice : )

[azure rain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vVoQ-1U0SY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaJHuwqPwuE

[harsh saddle]

Cloth simulation is useful but kind of specialized. You can also do all of that with the sculpting tools but cloth sim is good for doing it more realistically and more quickly.

[spiral sigil]

bookmarking both of those

[harsh saddle]

The renaissance masters did cloth sim with a hammer and a chisel so we don't need those damn simulations ||but they can help for that particular application||

[spiral sigil]

yeah i can imagine sculpting all those lines and creases takes ages

[harsh saddle]

There are a thousand features you can learn for specific applications but I would focus more of your efforts on the fundamentals of modeling and sculpting vs things that are only useful for specific applications.

[spiral sigil]

ill try to make many small projects that vary in how u go about making them

the couch is probably the next thing I'll do but i might try like a miniature version of my room after

[harsh saddle]

Adding creases to a pillow with the sculpt tools doesn't really take that long if you know what you're doing, trying to create realistic draping cloth would be a bit more demanding.

[azure rain]

yeah trying like your real-world room would give you lots of objects to look at to try to make

like definitely plenty of hard surface modeling to play with to make your computer case

[harsh saddle]

Most of these things are also dependent on good fundamentals to begin with. You could spend days mastering fur simulation (which won't transfer to Unity anyway) but if your dog or cat model that has the fur on it is bad, it's still going to look bad.

[spiral sigil]

im honestly not looking to learn unity in that way, just want to use it as the final step when porting the model into games like bonelab or vrchat

[harsh saddle]

I wasn't referring to Unity, that's a thing in Blender. The idea is to use Blender, right? My point is that you can't just expect to not know how to model and throw a simulation on it and have it look good. That'll work for a sheet but pretty much nothing else. You're better off learning the fundamentals of modeling than learning how to use a bunch of specialized tools you'll only use for a small fraction of objects you want to create. Cloth sim is useful but if you want a couch that really looks good, you need to do base modeling properly and then just using the cloth sim for the final details.

It's okay to dabble in that stuff but if you're spending most of your time learning about a bunch of exotic features, you're going to take a lot more time in learning how to accomplish the basic foundations that every model needs to look good.

[spiral sigil]

thats fair

thanks, ill get to youtube-tutorialing

[pure dagger]

a bit of retexturing

[red glade]

maelstrom design 🕺

[tight quartz]

How do I get these Dots on face selection?

[tough plover]

you see that when in X ray mode

[tight quartz]

I am aware of that, Is that only in Wireframe mode?

[tough plover]

no, any mode

[magic badge]

Still a work in progress.

[spiral sigil]

Ooo lovely

[versed glacier]

Im trying to apply geometry nodes but it says evaluated geometry does not contain curves when its clearny made out of them.( trying to make hair)

any tips?

[analog frost]

Is it possible to extract Ambient Occlusion maps from a material in blender? I need the AO maps in png format

[azure rain]

does the blender material even have ambient occlusion in the first place?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTmFFQeBor0

[analog frost]

figured it out

[azure rain]

cool

[teal raft]

I have a model I did in Blender, and baked textures. Everything looks great there. But when I export the FBX its textures are tiling like this. Anyone know why that is?

[teal raft]

I fixed it. I baked the textures with the SimpleBake plugin so I just decided to go ahead and do that with the mesh too. I don't know what the difference is and why it makes one, but things look correct now so I'll just bake the textures and mesh with SimpleBake from now on.

[rich grove]

is it possible to downgrade a project from blender 2.93 to 2.83

[formal bridge]

No, .blend files from newer versions of blender arent compatible with older versions. Your best bet is either installing 2.83 or exporting the 2.93 files to a usable format IE fbx, obj and then importing them into 2.83

[steady zealot]

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/cardboard-buster-sword-2a6502fdd6e3459fbb404aadebb53c98

[signal fable]

I'm trying to find documentation on Blender scripting, since I'm trying to optimize a set of models that all need to be fixed in the same way

every body segment is parented directly to its corresponding bone, instead of having vertex groups, so I'm trying to create an automatic process that checks the bone each mesh is parented to, and creates a respective vertex group for it

[solar fossil]

Hand cannon done lets gooo!

[patent current]

anyone know the world mb limit

[harsh saddle]

For quest, 100 MB
For PC

https://tenor.com/view/mean-girls-lindsay-lohan-the-limit-does-not-exist-math-no-limit-gif-3546827

[patent current]

oh.. oh hell yes

[thin shadow]

The limit is the decision of players when they look at the world size

[patent current]

time to model my entire house

[harsh saddle]

A reasonably-szied house can easily be under 100 MB if it's optimized unless you live in a palace or something.

[manic spade]

putting together a cute toy

mostly accurate hk usp 45

[somber elk]

that looks sick asf!!! good work!!

[patent current]

would i need to add colliders or something or can i keep it as it?

[somber elk]

tfw you spent hours working on a model just for blender to crash and you lost all your progress, i had almost finished it too..

i'm back to square one with how much progress i lost

[empty fox]

Blender got autosaving

[manic spade]

ty

[harsh saddle]

You at least need a ground collider if you want to not fall through the ground endlessly. The rest is negotiable.

If you want to collide with it, give it a collider. Box is usually fine

[somber elk]

how find use i want stuff bak >:(

[harsh saddle]

Though I don't recommend depending on it. Just get in the habit of hitting Ctrl S every 15 minutes or so and occasionally saving out a new version so you have old versions to restore if something gets messed up

[somber elk]

ill try that

[somber elk]

YESSS\

thank you my friends

i got it back

hel yea

[patent current]

Thanks

[snow estuary]

me omw to get commissions:

[harsh saddle]

I don't think the thumb is the longest finger but you've got 5 fingers so that's a solid start.

[somber elk]

i dunno man how else am i supposed to give a thinbs up

[devout creek]

pose mirror doesn't actually mirror properly does anyone know how to fix i forgot the method

[steady zealot]

make sure the bones are all named symmetrically. In other words, the bone on the left has to be named the same as the bone on the right with a matching, but opposite suffix, like _L and _R

So for example "UpperArm_L" and "UpperArm_R"

[small marten]

Idk if I'm late but I'm not an expert either, but make sure both fingers r the same cuz the finger next to the thumb is thinner than the others but its guud so far

[snow estuary]

ik, im working on the topology

the ulgy hand is just a joke

[magic badge]

Finished.

[lost trench]

damn thats cool

[full willow]

https://twitter.com/Trinitotsw/status/1581758536652316673

Trinitots！ (@Trinitotsw)

Yuki model for AME!
#VRChat #blender #b3d

Twitter · Oct 16, 2022, 9:26 PM

[pearl swan]

I'm not sure where you'd ask modeling questions but does anyone have experience fitting gloves on avatars?

[harsh saddle]

Pretty much just like fitting anything, if you don't need it as a toggle, delete as many faces beneath the gloves as possible to avoid clipping and used edit or sculpt mode to fit the glove to the hand. If you need it to be a toggle then you can't do this as easily so you might want to give it a little more space around the glove to minimize clipping. Then just transfer weights from the hand to the glove in weight paint mode. You'll wan to do that part before you delete any of the faces.

[somber elk]

omg krampus my beloved how are you

[tranquil jackal]

Would anybody have a good tutorial on modeling a base for your avatar?

[somber elk]

i have a question, i accidently made it so that whenever i try to change something it snaps instead of growing if that makes sense

so it either goes that high or that high but down

it snaps to that

i don't know how i did it

i have done it a few tiems on accident

how do i return to the precise movement

i think i figured out it was the little magnet icon

[harsh saddle]

I'm alright

It is indeed the magnet and you can make it snap to lots of different things. I don't use it too often, though, If I need a specific value, I just enter that in the tool menu.

[tight quartz]

Why is the book cover shining like It's a light source >:(

[tough plover]

did you turn up the emission on it?

also why are you plugging the alpha into the mix shader? there's nothing else connected

[tight quartz]

I am new to shading, I saw some tutorial about it. 🤷‍♂️

And for Emission

[tough plover]

does it have a second material for the sign part?

[loud panther]

Where is the actual light placed

[tight quartz]

The image itself. 🤷‍♂️

[harsh saddle]

Are you sure that isn't just the light bouncing off the book and onto the plane below? Is the plane below reflective?

[somber elk]

lightsaber work so far

dinner break gonna chillax

i'm planning on making a little podium that i can spawn in front of me in vr chat

that has multiple lightsabers there

no purpose yet

but just for the sake of it look cool as fuck

podium is gonna be rocks prolly

[tight quartz]

Not 100% sure. Can take a look at it later.

[somber elk]

i have begun again

[somber elk]

i finished up the basic model, just needs a bit of refining

[steep crown]

idk if this is the right place, but any of yall know how to fix this? ive tried weight painting it but that didn't do anything
only does it when i press play in unity btw

[harsh saddle]

I'm not sure what I'm even looking at. Is this a hand?

[steep crown]

its the end of the sleeve

[harsh saddle]

Okay nd how is it supposed to look?

[steep crown]

not with that sharp point

this is a better photo

same spot on both sleeves btw

also this is how its suppose to look

[harsh saddle]

Are you doing anything exotic with the avatar? Special expressions, animations? If this isn't showing up in Blender, I would say it's more of a question for #avatar-help

[steep crown]

its definately through the mesh

i moved a specific bone and this happened

it seems that that specific point is linked to the upperarm

[harsh saddle]

Well if points are moving with bones that shouldn't move them, that sounds like weights. If you pose that bone like that and then go into weight paint mode and go through all your vertex groups, none of them show any weight there?

You should just be able to paint that point with a 0 weight 1 strength brush and it will go down

[steep crown]

so uh, how do i pose it

[harsh saddle]

By moving the bone that is affecting that part of the mesh

[steep crown]

explain it like ive never used blender before

cause i have no clue on what i need to press on for that

[harsh saddle]

You've already done it, you moved the bone and it moves that point, now you just need to go into weight paint (it's in the upper left).

You good up to that point?

[steep crown]

that was in unity though

i have no idea how to do it within blender

in unity it was as simple as selecting it within the hierarchy but with blender it only moves the rig itself

[harsh saddle]

Okay, well you have to go into pose mode first, that's also in the upper left where object mode and edit more are and then you can select and move the bones.

[steep crown]

thanks

... it seems that i can't even access that

which is now really confusing me

also i mean the specific point

i didn't explain that well, the hand of which is the bone with the issue, isn't within the article of clothing meaning its not there in the actual rih

rig

however it is there within the weights

[harsh saddle]

Well if it's impacting the mesh, it must be rigged to it somehow.

[steep crown]

I dunno how a single vertice would be rigged to it

[somber elk]

remodelling the pommel

i think i figured out a better way to make the pomeel

[late glacier]

Haha skeleton bone go brrrrrr

[somber elk]

this is how i'm going to present it in vrchat

[fair oasis]

https://kotyor.gumroad.com/l/ktrsordodek

[somber elk]

why the fuck it import like that

why it render part invis

[thin shadow]

Could be face orientation facing the wrong way

[pure dagger]

Finished my halloween costume!

[somber elk]

how would i fix that?

[pure dagger]

go into edit mode, select all by pressing a, goto mesh on the top left, normals, and recalculate outside

[somber elk]

in blender?

[pure dagger]

ye

[harsh saddle]

You can also flip individual faces by selecting them and then going to mesh -> normals -> flip normals but that should work.

[somber elk]

ight heading to blender right now

[ocean salmon]

Creating a model of the world Neverhood

[sharp grove]

does anyone here with experience in substance painter mind helping me out with a baking issue?

i baked a high poly mesh into a low poly but i've got artifacts in places, probably from where retopoflow didn't surround the high poly mesh properly, and i'm wondering if i can manually clean it up

[tough plover]

did you try messing with the baking settings?

[sharp grove]

not yet no

[tough plover]

should try messing with the max and min ray distance

[sharp grove]

i've pretty much only just bought substance lol

i'm loving it though

alright, thanks

okay that actually worked great lol

[sharp grove]

thank you!

i wasn't expecting to have such good results i expected it to start affecting the normals i wanted to keep

[tough plover]

for more challenging geometry, consider using a Cage mesh

[sharp grove]

one thing i'm a bit worried about is that i almost always manually model my heads and don't sculpt them (the model atm has no head), when i go back to blender and finish the head then bring it back, is there a way to stop it from making the normals on the head funky? or should i just keep messing with the values until it works

[tough plover]

also, baking in blender at first might be a better option, since you can more quickly iterate modifying the meshes/UVs

[sharp grove]

that's a good idea

it's frustrating because i'm sick of finding 10 minute long videos

with a web cam and the entire history of 3D graphics before they actually tell you how to do the thing

oh and a sponsor from skillshare where they suggest a blender modelling course

only reason why i didn't do it in blender first lol

[tough plover]

you could split off the head to its own mesh for now

or another material

the mesh you paint on doesn't exactly need to be the same as the "final" one

[sharp grove]

i can try to

[tough plover]

it can be an exploded version, can have separated pieces, etc

[sharp grove]

i really don't have enough experience in this program to know what the best option would actually be

[fallow fable]

Anyone here do anime 3D modeling? I'm so tired of my current setup and just wondering if there is anything better to use.

That is, for drawing an anime texture onto 3D parts
Is there like some specific blender program someone might recommend or, another program specifically for drawing onto 3D objects?
There is a layer plugin for blender but I can't get it to work in flat lighting

[tough plover]

Substance painter is typically the go-to application for texturing

for anime models though, using custom normals can actually be a way to get the lighting to look even better

https://twitter.com/xetirano

[violet wigeon]

hey so I was wondering if someone can make a avatar for me I already have the resources but I just need someone to put the pieces together like the shirt pants and glasses and hairstyle and it's a Splatoon Avatar that I want and I already have all the resources I just need the bones to and have the stuff be on the player model and have the colors there and everything and I can do the rest of the work like uploading it also don't worry about my English I always suck that fucking doing lawn sentences

and I had a little bit experience with modeling by only did it in sfm

because I only need to put the character together piece by piece

[violet wigeon]

Also the textures are already on the models And the only color change I really need is on the hair eyebrows and the eye color And on the pants there is a white line I want that to be changed to neon green Same thing for the hair eyebrows but the Iris is Hazel

And I'm looking for someone to do it for free since I already have all the resources

And I don't need the model to be uploaded into vrchat I can just do that myself and I can export the model out of blender myself

[tough plover]

this is not a reason for asking for someone to do it for free, putting it together and fixing weight painting is time consuming in itself

[violet wigeon]

No I don't need the waist painting to be fixed though the waist painting is fine

[tough plover]

the fact you don't know what weight painting is is another reason why you should be offering compensation. you're paying for the skills that you're avoiding learning yourself

I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but you can't expect anyone to do it for free

especially without knowing the exact amount of work required

you might think that everything is just "ready to go", but this is not Lego. there are a lot more intricacies

[violet wigeon]

Yeah and I understand that I'm just giving directions of what needs to be done with the model And waste painting is where you put the waste painting on the model like in certain spots where it stretches at so that way it don't stress the textures or whatever shit and also it's made where the model don't get the stored it or whatever you use the model for

And plus I understand that modeling is a pain in the ass as well

Model and has never been a easy task

[tough plover]

that's not what weight painting is at all, but anyways. because you understand that modeling work can be a pain, isn't that just another reason to pay someone to do it?

[violet wigeon]

Well there is some people that do do it for free and plus I'm not having someone to make the model completely from scratch

[tough plover]

those people are either being very generous or don't know how to value their time. it's not about having to make stuff from scratch or not (you should always pay for that), it's about someone else having to put in the time to do the work so that you don't have to. this is a totally fine thing to do, as long as whoever's doing the work gets compensated appropriately

[heavy parcel]

Do you own a vehicle?
If you do, then you'd know how much a service costs, even though they don't make the parts, they charge for the time to put them in.
Same concept fits here, where even if you have all the parts, you'd still be asking someone to put in the time to put it together.

[violet wigeon]

Well yeah a vehicle is more important than 3D models It's the everyday transport of course you're going to have to pay for it not trying to be a dick

[heavy parcel]

And some people make their wage off 3d models

[spiral sigil]

it's better to just ignore these ppl tbh

[grizzled linden]

how do i make the larger arms fit with the smaller set of arms (holy sh** that was a weird sentence xD) any ideas? im open for anything

[somber elk]

making a new lightsaber hilt i am

this time darth baders

[fallow fable]

the whole point for me is to not use any lighting at all

no elp

[pure dagger]

Youu have to remove parts of the mesh

[grizzled linden]

how?

[spiral sigil]

you may want to go in edit mode and grab the hands with the proportional tool and also symmetry on x axis enabled

[grizzled linden]

well i got it to work, but in unity the shaders i use comes up with an error that says "too old" even tho i used them this morning?"

[spiral sigil]

I never saw this error in unity lol can you show the error message maybe?

[grizzled linden]

sorry

my pc crashed lol

[grizzled linden]

hope you can see it

[spiral sigil]

some assets are conflicting you have 2 Dynamic bones in the project and some animator seems broken but those errors are just warning it shouldnt prevent you from uploading your avatar to vrchat

[grizzled linden]

can somone explain how to fix this? since it doesnt fix when pressing "auto fix"

[harsh saddle]

Click the texture(s) in the project tab and look at the inspector. Either disable mipmaps (what I do) or enable streaming mipmaps

[spiral sigil]

never disable mipmaps unless there is a good reason for this.

[harsh saddle]

There seems to be a fair amount of debate as to when and if to use mipmaps. I would like to understand them better the discussion of them seems sparse and technical. I experimented with them once and liked how things looked better without them and my worlds perform well without them so 🤷 . It seems like best practices would be to use them in some places and not in others. As to when those times are, I'm still not real clear on that.

[spiral sigil]

mipmaps looks better when you are far away and are cheap to compute, they also free up the GPU memory and bandwidth. The only reason to disable mipmaps is for UI elements or orthographic view where the camera can't zoom in or out.

here you can clearly see the visual difference

[somber elk]

this fucking shape has been the most painful thing in my blender journey

[neon kelp]

ok, I have been working on my first avatar for a while now and most stuff is done. weight painting, blend shapes, etc. I just don't know were to start with the textures and shaders. like what is even needed? any tips and/or ideas?

[spiral sigil]

You now have to UV unwrap your model before texturing

[neon kelp]

I have made a UV map as well, I was thinking stuff more along the line of what details I should actually draw on the texture, do I need to paint shadows or do i rely on shaders for them?

[somber elk]

shaders

[spiral sigil]

fr shaders for anime because it often looks wrong without them

although some anime models can do with diffuse shading but it depends

[spiral sigil]

Personally I wouldn't rely on shaders only. You can paint some shadows and lighting effect directly on the mesh

oh you mean baked shadows

I would look at how some hololive 3d models do baked shadows and highlights to get a more precise idea

of how to draw on tex

for example here you can see between the fingers and under the arms they painted a darker skin to simulate the ambient occlusion

(also on the neck)

Hairs lighting is also directly paint on the texture

mm yes blue ao

kool

@neon kelp are you aiming towards a soft or harsh shading style

[neon kelp]

i think i wanna go for something like this

so those are "baked shadows" as someone called it?

[spiral sigil]

to me its more AO than shadows

we say baked because you can 'bake' lightmaps with lightsources in a technical process

but your actually going to draw this in

[neon kelp]

just to recap a little, best way to go about this is looking at references and get inspiration (copy) from that and the no shaders?

[spiral sigil]

imo if you can sucessfully copy for learning sake then do it as long as you dont ever post it anywhere like artstation even if u credit original author

the originality part can come later once u even know what ur doing

[tough plover]

you always need a shader

[neon kelp]

when i say copy i mean look at it draw exactly the same

just making that clear

[tough plover]

but you don't always need shadows, if that's what you asking

in this case I would still use them though

otherwise you will look always flat lit and it will look odd

[spiral sigil]

yeah thats fine you need to learn what brush hardness is used for certain strokes and what colors work best and what layering effects make etc etc

[neon kelp]

ok, i think i have some grasp of what needs to be done now at least

[spiral sigil]

if your texturing in blender you will absolutely need to use the setting where you manually change brush hardness/softness curve and how to use blending effects without layers

becuase blender has no layers its just one layer the texture

u need addon for that or something like substance painter or 3dcoat

[tough plover]

substance painter is the way to go if you want to be a bit more serious about texturing

you can get it for free with the student program

[neon kelp]

i got access to substance painter so that is a non problem for me

[spiral sigil]

Armor Paint isnt that bad too! and way less expansive

honest subscriptions come later

suk it adobe

also Blender + Krita is a good workflow if you dont want to spend any money ^^

there is many options u will learn about them inevitably and end up choosing one

[neon kelp]

thanx everyone anyway, realy helped talking to ya

[grizzled linden]

can anyone tell me why my mesh wont be attached to my bones? i click "objects -> parent -> Automatic weights" like what am i doing wrong?

[spiral sigil]

Asking in general out of curiosity: When you model an anime character's head (including neck), what specific parts, shapes or planes do you polymodel first, and do you work with subsurf?

im interested because it seems alot of people start in completely different ways

[pure dagger]

Made the grimoire from Helluva boss

[somber elk]

that looks sick asf

how do you give it an invisible background?

[tough plover]

if you do renders in blender, just enable "Transparent" under Film

[pure dagger]

thankies uwu

[somber elk]

no matter what i do

darth vaders lightsaber renders like this in unity

when it's clearly not meant to do that

@harsh saddle my beloved

i require assistance if you're available

and i have tried recalculating the oustide

hell i tried recalculating the inside too

[harsh saddle]

It's hard to see exactly what're going on but sometimes recalculating doesn't do exactly what you want. In that case, you can turn on backface culling in the solid view in Blender and then in edit mode go to mesh->flip normals to flip the normals of individual faces.

[somber elk]

will do boss, love you

[somber elk]

I HAVE a quewstion

so

when i spawn in my lightsaber models

i go from 100fps to an easy 50

is this bc it's loading too many seperate parts?

if so shuold i just combine a lot of the parts together

if that's not it, why does it run so slow

[pure dagger]

Whats the poly count

and how many materials do you have

[somber elk]

poly count?

where do i check that

[pure dagger]

in blender check your statistics while everything is selected

[somber elk]

like 5 or 6

[somber elk]

bet will do

[somber elk]

where is statistics

[pure dagger]

google

[somber elk]

??

oh

google it

ok

cheers

ig

@pure dagger

o no

[pure dagger]

My guy

[somber elk]

am i in trouble

[pure dagger]

you have 1.3 million polys

that is why

send a ss of your saber

[somber elk]

s

[pure dagger]

screenshot

[pure dagger]

Now in edit mode

[pure dagger]

Can i ask why you used so many polys?

You need to unsubdivide them

[somber elk]

how do i do that sorry

[pure dagger]

Youll have to do alot of it manually

[somber elk]

i'm still relatively new to blender

[pure dagger]

Go into edge mode and delete some of the edges around the circles

[somber elk]

and i have just been making i didnt' realise there was so much to it

[pure dagger]

I cant really explain it

I can offer to fix it but it will be ~30$ if you wanna do it your self my best advice is to google and youtube how to decimate/unsubdivide

[somber elk]

don't got 30 bucks

plus i need to learn it eventually may as well do it now

thank you for the offer though

[pure dagger]

Good luck

[somber elk]

i'll wing it 😎

fuck it i'm gonna remake it

kachow

[pure dagger]

Best bet tbh

[somber elk]

yea this looks like a hell hole of work

plus i did it once and it only took me a few days

i can do it within a couple hours now

that's my self expectation right there

[somber elk]

procastinating remaking it i am

i think i just realised the bets way to do

i got this

@pure dagger bets way to remove some poly shitters off this?

[pure dagger]

use edge select and disolve most of the circular ones

[somber elk]

youuu got it boss

and how would one fix whatever the fuck you coall this

[somber elk]

will do!

[pure dagger]

Idk what im looking at

[somber elk]

how do i remove the ugly creasees

[pure dagger]

do you want to remove the rectangles entirely?

[somber elk]

nono just the crease thingys on the side

if that makes sense

[pure dagger]

It doesnt

[somber elk]

uhhgh

let me show you what i want it to look like

low res pic go br

but i want it to have that shape cut out

and everything stays smooth circular

@pure dagger

[somber elk]

anyone please help

i want the creases to go away

that little shit of shading on the left side of each pill shape is going to be the death of me

please someone :c

forget it i redid it and got rid of it

[spiral sigil]

i think you can do something with weighted normals modifier to work around bad topology

but there is definitely a good topology way of doing what you want

[pulsar bluff]

Didn't know where else to post this, but for an anthropomorphic model so far, does this look okay for someones first time attempting an avi from scratch?^^"

[fiery pawn]

just makin a nice uv map, nothing strange at all.

[harsh saddle]

@somber elk You generally only need a lot of faces where you want to have actual detail. You'll want cylinders to have maybe 16 faces around their perimeter to look decently smooth when smooth shading is enabled but you don't need horizontal edges looks like that unless you actually need to add more elements in those areas. See how these look exactly the same?

Well, the one on the left has 64 faces and the one on the right has 33,000. You don't get any value from adding more faces to a smooth cylinder like that.

Now if I wanted to extrude out some of those faces to make knobs and buttons, then it would make sense to have more faces but you only want to have dense geometry where it's actually necessary.

[trim berry]

Anyone know why substance painter is making blue colors a light purple color? Its happening when I try to color the eyes on the batmiune.

reposted in here bc its a better place to ask

[spiral sigil]

And here you have a cylinder that looks like it's a cube and a cube that looks like a cylinder ^^

[spiral sigil]

in this example "looks" is a strong word lol

[pure dagger]

When you have more poly gons like this all it does is makes everyone lag, optimize your avatars people!

[harsh saddle]

Everyone should just make Quest-compatible avatars 😌

[somber elk]

i dont know how to im sorry :(

it sais mine ain’t quest compatible

[pure dagger]

youtube

[hollow ermine]

The Bloc Martins

[harsh saddle]

The builder should tell you why unless you just haven't published it for Quest.

[somber elk]

boy am i glad i did backface culling before hand

whenever i export it as fbx it basically doubles the poly ocunt on it

is it bc of subsurface rendering?>

it was

[daring plover]

Anyone here i can ask blender help?

[gritty kettle]

I need help modeling this

And texturing

[gritty kettle]

nvm forget it

[ancient jackal]

Hey so I’m planning of starting to make models on blender
do y’all know a good tutorial video?

[ashen forge]

Finished this yesterday for Spookality, yippie! https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/naren-the-ringleader-7992f4c3ea464f168023be7e5431aad9

Weightpainting is a bit wonky in some areas, but :p

[frail timber]

https://vrchat.com/home/launch?worldId=wrld_bd488db6-d888-4d01-9ba2-e189112c70d8

[jolly lake]

how should i go about making eyelids for a model with elliptical eyes

(in blender, for vrchat)

[spiral sigil]

Spawn a circle primitive

Fill faces

Poke face

Extrude out more loops as needed or insert faces (because you can't cut loops into triangles)

Stretch entire shape into ellipse

Oh eyelids I'm not sur

Show character

[jolly lake]

I already got off my pc so I can't get any screenshots

I've already got a solution anyways that's a little jank but works fine considering how fast blinking is, I'd love to hear a better solution later though

for now I'm going to bed though

[harsh saddle]

Yeah, blinks can be pretty wonky and still look fine for how fast they got by.

[spiral sigil]

I would look for models of similar style that look to do proper blinking and try to replicate what they do on your model if u want better solution

[pulsar bluff]

Update to a previous post i made. I know it doesn't have thumbs, i just need to relax rn and take a bit to chill :p

[jolly lake]

a little goofy

[jolly lake]

literal cat paws as hands looking pretty good

[shy thistle]

pulling my hair out trying to figure out why the head is see through help

[harsh saddle]

Try pulling the lids out further even if they stretch a bit oddly so they don't clip

[harsh saddle]

Check the material and see if its set to alpha blend. Change that to opaque.

[shy thistle]

thank you!

[red glade]

Working on a new fit for ma boi. p happy with how its lookin already

Just not sure what i wanna do for the uhm upper body

[azure rain]

cool now it works

[gray skiff]

Hola amigos, I apologize if this has been asked many a time but my search queries have left me empty handed.

I've got a Base model that has toggles to increase various sizes of the model (think, bigger booba). If I've attached clothing to said model in Blender/Unity, would the clothes break in game, or extend in tandem with the model?

[azure rain]

the clothing would not know to get bigger with the boob slider without you setting that up

[snow estuary]

u need to rig the boob area of the clothes as welll

so they know how to expabd

[pure dagger]

Made a halloween bucket with some candy for the vrc traders prop contest/halloween party, Its free on my gumroad

[spiral sigil]

I'm bad at this here's a worm, made mostly with the skin modifier, love making these so much

[stray patrol]

Looks pretty nice!

[spiral sigil]

Thank you, it's colors are FF8888, FF88FF, and 8888FF

[solar fossil]

That's a lot of 8

[gray skiff]

What's up homies, I'm looking sculpt what amounts to children's clothes onto this big mommy milker behemoth. However the thought occurred to me that while I might be able to get the sculpts patched together, the textures themselves are going to look very distorted upon applications. Would that indeed be the case? Would test but am locked in the wage cage for the rest of the day.

[tough plover]

fitting clothing that was made for different models with different topology will be hit or miss. you will likely end up with a lot of clipping

as for actually fitting it, I would suggest using the Mesh Deform modifier

you can essentially make a new mesh that wraps around the clothing, and use it to deform the clothing.

on the deform mesh, I recommend enabling X symmetry and also doing the reshaping on a shape key. this is because adding cuts to the deform mesh breaks the modifier, and so you would need to redo everything. doing it on a shape key means you can simply unbind/rebind and re-enable the shape key

[gray skiff]

Thanks brotha, there's a very nice tutorial on YT and this tool looks to be a lot more streamlined for this than the ol' sculpteroni, and I'll run this on a shape key as well. With that said, would you by chance know if there is a resource or a repository of tutorials for fitting... unique body shapes? The one's I'm pinging on YT are more or less like snapping in matching lego's haha.

Also big thank you sir @tough plover !

[tough plover]

for "unique body shapes" you're almost better off making your own clothing from scratch for that specific model

[gray skiff]

Oh dang hahaha, and here I am thinking "yeah this'll kitbash just fine" 🙈

Thank you for the guidance mane, I'll dip my toes into the creation side of things!

[jolly lake]

8 is half of F so yeah

[bold oar]

can anyone help me with why this is happening? i seperated this Y bot so i can hide some of the body parts individually but now he's all jagged like this and it shows this way in unity as well

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/632753081687212072/1034194827207786546/unknown.png

[quaint jasper]

Make sure there's no duplicates

[zinc mantle]

Hello everyone i juste download unity and i want to start making my oc but i want to start from nothing modeling every outfit and I don't really know what to use and all... If someone have some time to lose and try to help me out with some information...

[quaint jasper]

Unity is not a modelling program, Blender is

[zinc mantle]

Ok I was looking at the same time

[quaint jasper]

https://youtu.be/5JA0f8ZgIw0
Great tutorial to follow along to learn the basics

[split dragon]

i'm looking to make cutouts for these holes in the actual mesh (since quest can't do transparent cutouts), and i'm working in blender. Does anyone know a good way I could use the alpha map cutoff to actually cut out the mesh?

(or do i have to manually do it with the knife tool?

[harsh saddle]

I think you'd have to use the knife tool. I guess you could do something like importing that into illustrator or another vector program, doing an image trace, then importing that as an SVG, extruding it, then using that for a boolean but that's gonna make for some real stank topology. Regardless, you're going to end up adding a lot of faces to try and do this accurately. One option might be to just put the knee texture behind the rips. You'd lose the depth but without adding a lot of additional geometry and you might be able to fake a little depth with a normal map.

[tough plover]

you could just combine the texture and the body texture in an image editing program

so you just have the skin texture showing through where there's normally alpha

[split dragon]

good call.
do you happen to know a way to do it through blender?i don tthink the uv's match up perfectly....

[harsh saddle]

I'd do it in GIMP or Photoshop. Just line them up or clone stamp it and then layer the texture with the alpha over it.

You could also projection paint it in Blender using the body texture as a stencil and then combine the textures in Photoshop.

[split dragon]

That would work tysm

[red glade]

Just gotta make the tactical rig 🙂

Made the uhm mechanix gloves also.

I will redo the fishnet as i found a better way

[naive atlas]

ill def put this in my world thank u very much 🙂 happy Halloween

[pure dagger]

Link me!

[naive atlas]

huh

[pure dagger]

Link me your world

And give credits to my gum road 👉👈

[naive atlas]

i will dont worry

[naive atlas]

ill show u in a sec

[spiral sigil]

Another worm

[pure dagger]

I appreciate it, but you couldve just put it on a small card or something 👉 👈

[naive atlas]

all good ,i like it ,so more the size they see it

[opaque solar]

Do anyone have a method or tutorial on how to make a realistic cloth folds or wrinkle in blender?

[harsh saddle]

There is a cloth brush in the sculpt tools you can look into but often you'll just want to use a cloth modifier and then apply that modifier.

[opaque solar]

Thx

[quaint jasper]

You'd have to edit the mesh in Blender, in edit mode, put your cursor over one of the vertices, press L, and then Alt + S to scale outward, hopefully that solves it !

[lament pond]

Wip

[amber spruce]

Hey guys, if I'm putting boots on an avatar that will never be removed, can I just delete the foot mesh and leave a non manifold edge at the ankle? Or will this cause me issues down the line and I should 100% cap that off with a face?

[tough plover]

this isn't 3d printing, you don't need your meshes to be manifold

you can absolutely just remove the ankle by just deleting the faces

[amber spruce]

Hell yeah brother, I love easy solutions

[fallow pewter]

Would this be an appropriate channel to ask a question about substance painter for modeling?

[azure rain]

honestly you're in a decent spot

[glad fiber]

wip , power shoes before retopo

[fresh isle]

Start on a bug body of sorts

[tame sinew]

What's a good way to make some desert terrain? I know there's the terrain in unity, but it's not exact enough for dunes and what not.

[pure dagger]

A.N.T.S landscape is a good plugin for blender it creates landscapes, Its kind acomplex so id watch a tutorial first

[spiral sigil]

you could def do this with terrain

might need some good textures though

[tame sinew]

The only problem that I'm seeing is flattening the terrain, which I don't know how I would do that

I'm thinking polybrush, but that doesn't have a set height option...

[spiral sigil]

you should be able to remove height with shift

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/terrain-RaiseLowerTerrain.html

this is the example they use

[tame sinew]

That’s for regular terrain in Unity. I don’t know if I can convert the mesh from blender into a terrain in Unity

[spiral sigil]

OH that's different

I don't thiiiink you can do that

it looks like you can use a converter to make a mesh a unity terrain object

but the ones I'm seeing cost $$$

if you were doing it all in blender, but wanted the detail / tree painting you can do something similar using particle systems and weight painting

[cerulean kiln]

so i was making something in blender and exported it as a fbx but in unity there were broken faces. i fixed it by exporting as obj but when i put the obj file into unity, all the materials were gone and it only had the 1 "default" material. wtf?

when i put the same obj file back into blender it still has all the materials. so something in unity is messing it up?

nvm i got it

[versed glacier]

So as people have told me. using boolean is a sin and game engines (dont like it?) how would i make these holes on the ship with this topology without boolean

[tough plover]

@versed glacier

[versed glacier]

i think my brain just fried

what if thesres that edge loop going around in that area..

[versed glacier]

oh wait that edge loop was useless i dissolved it but i cant comperhend how did you do that hole XD because when extruding or insetting the faces they like to go to center so how did you get to stay on the top side of the wall?

[tough plover]

I added loop cuts and dissolved the ones I didn't need

one sec

[versed glacier]

im still learning topology stuff so my brain is little mushy when coming into problems like this

<,< what did you press to cover those holes with faces so fast jesus

[tough plover]

just select the edge and hit F

and keep hitting F

[versed glacier]

damn you just made my life so much easier

[tough plover]

needs to be the edge between the ones you're filling between

[versed glacier]

oh its little problematic on my side though

https://i.gyazo.com/e2f4119c4cab646552b62e2d11aa3dbd.mp4

[tough plover]

yea because you have an extra loop around the top

around the bottom too

[versed glacier]

oh yeah they were created when i extruded to get the outer rim of the railing of the ship

[tough plover]

you can dissolve loops using alt + click to select them (or ctrl + click to select every edge between two points) and ctrl + X to dissolve the edge

[versed glacier]

oh.. right that loop doesnt seem to make sense anymore after the extrude was done

[tough plover]

mhm

[versed glacier]

man i have so much to learn.. i just cant see the bigger picture

[versed glacier]

https://i.gyazo.com/0173e6d386be06df46ca7662bd9e70f6.mp4 so this would be acceptable result?

[tough plover]

yea that looks pretty good

[versed glacier]

you seem really advanced. you have any recommendations where to learn topology for hard modeling and organic? and good practices for them

[tough plover]

for organic stuff you can find references for how your loops should flow

I'm not as advanced with hard surface but I know there's a lot of tutorials for it

[versed glacier]

gotcha well thanks for help 😄 now i gotta go figure out how to do this but with arches XD need to bore the window holes into the hull with arches

[tame sinew]

How does this look for some sand dunes? If it helps I'm gonna be making a Tatooine City with some stuff outside of it.
https://gyazo.com/75ad89fa3e952d17c09a3b0fdc38276a

[spiral sigil]

I'm not a dune expert but I'd like at some references if you're stuck

[tame sinew]

I think it works well enough. I'm gonna try to convert it into a terrain in unity to flatten out the middle, then scale it as much as I need to in order to get enough buildings in

[spiral sigil]

I know they have these rad ridges

[tame sinew]

Yeah, sadly I couldn’t get those ridges without it looking worst off

[harsh saddle]

I'd just model it in Blender, especially if you don't need to use stuff like speedtree. The pinch brush would work well for that.

[spiral sigil]

yeah, if you don't need the terrain features which it doesn't sound like you do

[harsh saddle]

Yeah, there are other ways to do grass and trees but terrain is a good option if you need a lot of them and you need them to perform well. For a desert, I'd just sculpt it.

[red glade]

tacticool camoflage (shit stains)

Gotta make the tactical rig. Annoyingly im not sure how i would approach it

[prime zenith]

I know there is a lot of experienced people here, so I want to ask about this issue. I already had 2 experienced people try to help me with no success.
I have a matcap problem as on the image - the matcap gets "pinched" on a certain edge loop, but I cannot pinpoint how to fix this. Any ideas ?

Also pls do not worry about the high poly count - I will optimise this later, I am just stuck on this specific issue right now

[versed glacier]

im gonna be honest with you but i have slight feeling that the ammount of edges you have on that is the reason for that. theres so many it looks "smooth" and then theres that 1 edge line thats out of place.

also try playing with the auto smoothing angle

first try playing with the smoothing angle if that doesnnt work. try dissolving the edge loops around the area where it does the thing to make it more flat

[prime zenith]

I am trying changing the smoothing angle, does not do much. I also dissolved some edges around the are and there is not really a change either

[tough plover]

what the hell, what is the poly count on those

[prime zenith]

I did dissolve lot of the edge loops and created some ngons down the shoe, but it does not solve the problem at all

[prime zenith]

I just had to apply all transforms

[red glade]

Finished his design ish

[fringe leaf]

The new Halloween costume I made 😄 looks so cute

[mild talon]

Finished the hand rig 🌸

[jolly lake]

master hand avatar

[spiral sigil]

wowow good job

[amber spruce]

Anyone know any good tutorials on making clothes? Struggling to find videos that aren't showing fabric stimulation shortcuts

[gentle solar]

my first attempt at modeling, been following Rainhet Chaneru's tutorial

[mild talon]

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Youtube+cloth+simulation+for+beginners

Anything is good on the subject if you don't know what to do

But if you need high quality, go for Marvellous Designer, not Blender

[versed glacier]

https://i.gyazo.com/06ca8a1cb20fcf2ecd5b29d66f5909dc.mp4 Im making this comfy type night scene inspired by someone who did it aswell any opinions? its still WIP

[red glade]

spoopy

[gray skiff]

Waddup gangstas, apologies in advance if this has been asked before but I'm not too certain on the verbiage to run a search query in the Disc

How would I go about making clothes react to proportion sliders within VRChat?

For instance, there are sliders that increase certain parts of the body, which when used will clip through clothes that are set into place.

[azure rain]

basically you would have to make blendshapes for the clothing to move as well and then hook up the animations in unity to control both blendshapes at the same time

if you're having a body under the clothing

[gray skiff]

That's a good idea, thank you sir! I think I'm just gonna spend some time getting the ideal proportions down in Blender with the provided blendshapes. Unfortunately, the proportion sliders in game aren't 1:1 with the blendshapes so I'mma have to do some eyeballing.

Thanks mane!

[azure rain]

hope your clothing stuff goes okay

[spiral sigil]

Just triple checking but when it comes to peformance impacts of textures, its pretty much all about the area right

I have made a very odd ratio texture of 528 x 2,276 that has only 20% more area of square 1024x1024, and it gives roughly double resolution for my model

and it is still squares its not warping on checkerboard pattern btw

[harsh saddle]

More specifically, it's about how many pixels your UV islands are covering, so if using a different resolution or mapping allows you to utilize the UV space more efficiently, then that can also have an impact.

You can have a 4k texture but if your UVs are only able to make use of 50% of the space, then you're still going to have limited resolution in your texture.

[spiral sigil]

how does unity handle processing empty and covered UV space when rendering textures

[harsh saddle]

I'm not sure but I'd imagine it treats it all the same. If there is no transparency, it's still looking at the black space and if there is transparency, it needs to know what areas are transparent so I don't think it ignores any space.

[spiral sigil]

mm okay thanks

something interesting I found on unity docs is it says to reduce UV islands and seams for performance

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/OptimizingGraphicsPerformance.html

never expands on that thought though

[harsh saddle]

I could be mistaken, that's just my assumption. if it prefers to have fewer islands then maybe it is processing where your UVs are.

[spiral sigil]

yeah

at this point im just curious its not like crucial lol

[fluid ice]

been working on meshes and for some reason the texture for this cylinder is on the inside and the outside is transparent. 💀

[spiral sigil]

select the faces that are backwards and do alt+N recalc outside and it should fix

pov still trying to slap paint onto metal until it looks good

[fluid ice]

oh wow that worked. thank you! ^^

[fluid ice]

ooh nice! 👀

[mental hazel]

how would i make a effect like the medievil magic swords blade?
like where it cycles between royal blue and black

https://youtu.be/JEzRiKtsjtU
you might not be able to see it very well

[mental hazel]

how would i pull this off?

[somber zodiac]

^ That can be done with poiyomi I believe, A simple scrolling gradient over the blade of the sword at a specific direction to get it to flash like that. You would open up the poiyomi shader, apply the normal sword texture under the main section, then go under special effects> Emission 1> and apply your gradient, turn on scrolling emissions and change the color to blue. then you would set the scroll direction. Alternatively you can have a particle system that has a shape ontop of the mesh of the sword, with a velocity over time in the direction of the emission you want, then you change the color of said emission either through a color over time option, or an animation which swaps it between two colors. The first option would only be pc compatible the second is quest compatible. But particles are heavier on computing power.

[lean hemlock]

im unable to quick decimate my avatar with cats, blender shows visually that it happened, decimate modifier still shows 390k poly and blender also, anyway to fix that without deleting the shapekeys?

[somber zodiac]

Decimate, quite literally changes the vertex point orders as well as vertex groups associated with said shape keys. so by definition reducing the poly count in a non-subdivision method, will require you to remap out the shape keys on the model. There is a way around this using something called shapekey transfer, This is done by having 1 model with the LOD you require and the old mesh with the shape keys

https://github.com/fblah/ShapeKeyTransferBlender may help you

^ Worth noting that using this method, you can also learn to rig things that may give you automatic bone weighting errors, due to manifold meshes being wrong

[tough plover]

@lean hemlock don't use the decimation modifier, use the decimate operation in edit mode. do it on a new shape key

it will preserve your shape keys

if you have good topology, I recommend dissolving a bunch of loops rather than decimation

[spiral sigil]

I'm curious because I can't find the answer in documentation or fourm posts: How does unity during a game treat an 8k texture that has been told to be read as a 2k texture

like if the actual texture is 8k POT square, and yknow change the reading res to 2k, would the filesize still be large because you still need the 8k to make the 2k

[tough plover]

when you import something in unity, it makes a copy of it and keeps it stored somewhere else. it's essentially re-encoding the entire asset and putting in a format that Unity can more easily use

[spiral sigil]

is the original 8k stored in vram or dram somewhere

ohhh

[tough plover]

if you set a texture to 2k from 8k in the import settings, it makes a 2k version and stores it

[spiral sigil]

so where is it stored is my question then

[tough plover]

under Library

[spiral sigil]

no like uh when your in a game like vrchat

[tough plover]

in VRAM

[spiral sigil]

so other players will have to load in both

[tough plover]

no, only the 2K one

the "imported" version is the one Unity actually uses and that goes into the asset bundle

it gets re-encoded into a better format like DXT or BC7

[spiral sigil]

oh okay so the 8k wont be seen in other players vram at all?

[tough plover]

correct

but again, as long as you set it to 2k in the import settings of the texture

there are very few cases where you should have 8k textures at all

[spiral sigil]

yeah I ask cuz cobruh is trying to make a texture below 1mb and the origial texture is like 8k

or 16k

he changes it up when he says it and i havent seen pictures

but he makes it read at like 2k or 1k or something

[tough plover]

having the source texture 8k means that it takes a lot longer for Unity to actually create the new imported texture

so there's no point really

[tulip ice]

Has anyone had issues with models made in nomad sculpt? Seems like any of them I use as an avatar are on the ground in front of me in game. Even if I’m using the same process as non-nomad stuff

[manic spade]

made a paper birch for a first tree

no subsurface in unity because i dont feel like writing the shader

[spiral sigil]

looks actually really nice, how did you do it if I may ask

[pure dagger]

flip your normals

or change your blend mode

[mild talon]

running from having to fix the rigging anymore

[manic spade]

speedtree and fixed the normals for the leaves in maya

[magic badge]

🐺

[red glade]

Skellebro

[jovial seal]

how do you drag stuff towards each other

i have forgotten

[tough plover]

you could just enable X mirror and select one side and move it

[jovial seal]

what on earth is that lmao

anyone know whats causing this seam with the mirror modifier?

they are merging

[tough plover]

make sure you delete the other half of the model entirely when you use the mirror modifier

[jovial seal]

yeh thanks i just kinda janked my way around it using a backup and merge by dist

omw im mad at myself

i sent like 4 or 3 hours of my life modelling this for no reason cause i cant even rig it due to no alt button

lets go

[oak hatch]

gun.

need ot do a lot of work to make it better, but for now, gun.

[woeful summit]

Needs charging handle and breakdown pins, but otherwise, good job

I might include a safety other then the blade trigger safety in the trigger

If anyone want help with realistic firearm proportions on their model builds, hit me up because I can give some pointers, I play world of guns Verry often, watch forgotten weapons like it’s gospel, and have visited the cody firearms museum a good few times

[oak hatch]

yeye, I still haven't detailed out the charging handle, takedown pins, gotta change how the stock links up with the upper, and "borrow" the AWCY" folding brace model as a basis for the brace.

It's based LOOSELY off the FCU X01 PDW.

Sorta, TMP9 meets FCU X01 kinda vibe.

[woeful summit]

Could probably move over the buffer tube and nut model of the M16 for that one

Actually, probably not, the stock of the M16 could be too long…

[oak hatch]

No buffer toob, direct blowback/roller delayed

stock is gonna be folding, so M16 style config is nogo

Also, looks like this will be around 5-8ktris, which is high, but not awful

I could murder it down to lower, but then I risk it looking pretty anky.

*janky

[woeful summit]

Roller delayed blowback… why not lever delayed or recoil recoil delayed?

[woeful summit]

What about the folding version of the collapsable M249 stock

Might look good, and it’s a little shorter

[oak hatch]

ehh, I was going to go for more like the CZ Scorp Evo,

super minimalist polymer stock

[woeful summit]

Ahhh, yeah, that could fine

[oak hatch]

I just have to work out how to also have room for the ejection when folded, might do a clever trick or two.

I'll also have a MP5C telescoping type thing as an option, for a 6" bbl version.

Make it obscenely compact.

[woeful summit]

Well, you might not need to if you flip the hinge so the stock hinges to the left instead of the right of the gun

[oak hatch]

Fair point, actually.

but ye

gonna be fun onna bun

[woeful summit]

You deffinitely sound like a good guy who could help with my dream, I just wish I had more experience in 3D modeling to do it

[oak hatch]

gonna make this PDW, finish up the pistol model I have, a few optics, a few accessories (afg, comp/brake and suppressor), and maybe a MADS unit.

[woeful summit]

Nice

[oak hatch]

Cause who doesn't love an underslung superposed caselite multipurpose 37mm smart munitions launcher?

[woeful summit]

Hehehe

[oak hatch]

[thoomp]]

[woeful summit]

I would like to make a firearms museum within VR chat one day

[oak hatch]

There was an artist who did that with voxel art, IIRC

TBH, I'm likely to make a world with my guns/tech in it as a sales pitch type deal.

[woeful summit]

Nice

[oak hatch]

Eventually, lmao.

After I make Oiel2.0

And more hardware. So much more hardware.

Like, if/when I can, I want to make a world where you can use a loading press to load your own bullets, then load the mag wth those bullets, then load the gun witht he mag, and hit the gun range.

some day

[woeful summit]

I will say this, if you make your gun so the shells eject at a 30-40 degree angle to the top right of the gun, it would likely not have any issues ejecting folded on the right side

[oak hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-yes-nod-agree-gif-21960775

MFW someone double-charges a rund and the gun KBs and kills them in VR

ye, I'll plot it out. worst case ontario, I can angle the hinge so it clears it, a la...I think AKM?

Forgot if the sidefold AKM does that or if it's a different gun.

[woeful summit]

Theres diffrent side folders for the AK out there, a crap ton

But the one on the 5.45x39 russian krinkov in particular seems to not be that bad to model

Theres underfolders too, but although compact, those tend to be uncomfortable LoL, especially lacking a cheek rest for a proper cheek weld

[oak hatch]

yeah nah, no underfolders for this boyo. I've got a prety decent ish idea of how I want this to look; after that is the 6.5mmTC rifle body, and then a billion billion accessories.

[woeful summit]

Hehehe

[oak hatch]

And then working out how to standardize the UVs in my art style so that I can atlas/stack UV stuff reliably.

And then making a shader.

YAY

I want to emulate the way a lot of japanese artists paint guns.

[woeful summit]

Well, hey, at least you don’t have to make a realistic internal animation LoL

[oak hatch]

About that.

[woeful summit]

👀

[oak hatch]

...I may or may not have SOME of the internal modeled.

nothing wild

[woeful summit]

Ok, that’s cool

[oak hatch]

but you will be able to do things like press-checks and chamber checks.

[woeful summit]

Nice

[oak hatch]

cause these guns are going onto Oiel2.0 with my avatar PVP system and gun manip setups.

MFW I'm still trying to make this thing Good Rated

[woeful summit]

That’s gonna be awsome

[oak hatch]

2 guns, damage models, custom IK stuff, extra gear and attachments...@_@

[woeful summit]

Soo… what if we were going to make a firearms museum that included internal model animations…

Within VR chat

[oak hatch]

mite b fun

oh, imagine a "become boolet" exhibit.

[woeful summit]

Hehehe

That would be interesting

[oak hatch]

first person view of a huge-sized gun, loading, firing, flying thru air, etc.

wheeeee

[woeful summit]

It could be like a ride that explains how firearms work, and what rifling does

That sounds verry fun actually

Heres the hard part tho

Quest compatibility

[neon kelp]

i have made some progress!

[woeful summit]

Looking good

[young owl]

What is it? Kinda looks like a heavily modified glock with some cool-but-illegal accessories. Looks frickin sick. But what is it?

[strong cobalt]

Gun

[oak hatch]

Hegao Arms HDW-10. Fictional sci-fi select fire 10"bbl folding stock, detent delayed blowback 10mm PDW/SMG.
Will also have a Compact variant (6"bbl, telescoping stock).

It's built around the FCU of the Hegao Arms HP-10, uses the same mags and FCU, same grip geometry.

Behold, I designed a working gun, for a sci-fi setting.

[young owl]

Ooh. Thanks for the clarification!

[oak hatch]

No worries. Gave me a reason to nerd out, always a good time for that.

[young owl]

Fair enough.
I love guns. Used to go shooting with my sad when I was younger, but haven't gone since.

[tulip ice]

Working on everyone’s favorite racist

[long depot]

who is that supposed to be?

[tulip ice]

Lovecraft

[long depot]

I see...

[red glade]

Hello! a small qeustion is there a way i could make a convincing buzzcut/fade thats lowpoly

Because just having it bald feels... off

[long depot]

just tell ppl u got male baldness, bam problem solved!

[red glade]

KEKW

Fair point

[tough plover]

could just texture it on

[red glade]

Thats what i orignally was thinking, Not sure how i would achieve said effect

Id reckon there are some uhm, Hair/stubble brushes

[median pike]

I cant think of anything besides texturing it

[red glade]

The height map will add to the effect tho uhm,

Ill do some research thanks!

[turbid tide]

Anybody got a single weed leaf 3d model I can use?

[red glade]

You'd reckon you could make it yourself right! Simply cut it out and you can fractal it if needed @turbid tide

[red glade]

@tough plover @median pike Here's something

Dont ever have me cut your hair cuz yo **** will be crooked butttt

Decent fade id say

[median pike]

yeah looks pretty damn good

[red glade]

Thx 🙂

[south wolf]

very nice

i actually did make one but it looked kinda cartoony

[karmic haven]

wish i knew how to make a bad ass avi

[spiral sigil]

hey its good you can see the issues with your own work its a very important trait to have as an artist

[red glade]

🙏

[median marten]

I done a headswap on one of my models but in game the head is a little too large how would i go about unmerging the head armature from the rest of the body to resize

[full hornet]

How do I separate the eye meshes on avatars in blender?

My character design has heterochromia and the model Im using uses one texture and uv to color both eyes

[tough plover]

you wouldn't separate the meshes for that, you would unstack the UVs

[honest schooner]

i thought it was gonna be easy to work on this but then i realized "holy shit the entire body is a box"

how would someone rig this

[tough plover]

that depends how you want it to move

[honest schooner]

do you rig the entire spine with the body?

[tough plover]

if you want it to stay perfectly solid, that might be a bit trickier if you want it to look right

I would just recommend adding a few loops to make it bend

[honest schooner]

I want it to be perfectly solid because that's literally how they would move theoretically

because i don't know how you'd bend a block of metal, so how do you rig this?

head?

spine?

head might work.

wait no that's a bad idea.

[tough plover]

if you rig everything to the head, it will move with the head. the issue is that it will "detatch" at the hips

like it will move away from the legs

[honest schooner]

hips/chest?

[tough plover]

hips would make it move properly with the legs, but it would "detatch" at the neck

my suggestion; create a separate bone for that whole part, parented to the hips. then, in Unity, add an Aim constraint to make it "look" at a target object located at the base of the neck

[honest schooner]

so rig everything to the hips

[tough plover]

to a separate bone parented to the hips

because you want to be able to move that bone separately

[honest schooner]

oh okay