world-development

[urban epoch]

If you just want a single, looping animation, opening up the Animation window and creating a new animation through that should handle the entire process.

[unborn niche]

all my objects keep falling though my world even though i have colliders on everything

[charred grail]

Yeah, that was the first thing I attempted to do, it just gives me a pipeline error instead of uploading.

[kind leaf]

pipeline error? you sure you have the correct world id?

if it's a new world check the pipeline manager and detach any ID if one is present. If it is your world you are updating copy the ID from the manager, detach, past and attach in the pipeline manager. You also cannot update someone else' world using their ID from your account.

[charred grail]

I think I might've fixed it. I deleted my VRCWorld and made a new one and suddenly it's allowing me to get to the world configuration. (where pipeline would cancel me last time)

Never uploaded a cross-platform world, essentially I'll have to swap back and forth and upload PC and Quest for every update?

Thanks for the assistance everyone

[kind leaf]

Yep. Some people clone the pc copy and convert the clone to quest. Just make sure to make identical changes to each.

[charred grail]

Wait, am I misunderstanding or am I able to use Poiyomi for PC and what I'm using for quest?

[desert python]

wait, youre using poi on your world?

[charred grail]

Yeah, It was a test build. But in theory

On the actual world I'm using others

[desert python]

ok so poi pro and toon and master return "null" on android, so you may need to try xeixe or just stay safe and go standard

[charred grail]

Ahhh. I gotcha. I was thrown for a loop because I assumed that both PC and Quest had to be the exact same.

[desert python]

oh then ye, i would never recommend using poi on world unless you understand exactly what you are trying to do with poi

it doesnt have to "exact-exact" like ofc you want them to be synched and not offset or something weird. but of course you can make the quest version a entirely different world if you needed to

[charred grail]

:thonk: Well then. I would assume that we would probably want to get 1:1 if both quest and pc users are in the same instance.

[desert python]

but it follows a pretty generic rule

hierchy:
PC-QC stuff
PC only stuff

and vise versa for a quest enriched world
itd be
PCQC stuff
QC only stuff

but ye totally. everyone wants to see the same deal

however, in this game, we have assets that can crash pc but not QC. and a lot more assets can crash QC but not PC

[charred grail]

I gotcha, would be pretty funny if I just rotated everything 180 for each version so everyone's looking at everything backwards from the other platform 😂

Yeah, I gotcha. That's helpful info. I appreciate all of that.

[urban epoch]

Normal mesh colliders don't correctly follow physics. Instead, either check the box on the Mesh Collider that says "Convex" or instead use a box collider.

[desert python]

ye thatd be pretty funny, and its not too unheard of

[scenic citrus]

okay, im stumped, i have little to no unity and 3D modeling knowledge but im at my wits end. i have a very ambitious project id love to work on. anyways, problem is, when i want to build and test world, i would go through the loading screen twice before being ejected from my work into my homeworld. whats going on?

[bold ibex]

how would a fast strobe be in vr? would it just be as uncomfortable as a real strobe ? or worse?

im putting in strobe lights either way buy i would just like to know

[desert python]

i would assume worse/ok depending on frame rate

i would still put a strobe light warning in the world just in case

[desert python]

any errors in the console? have you tried build and published? have you consulted the unity manual?

[scenic citrus]

i-

i have not thought of that.

[desert python]

if things continue going south: i highly suggest this = https://github.com/oneVR/VRWorldToolkit/releases

[tardy ridge]

🤔 I setup my audio like this, but for some reason I never heard anything from it. Did I set it up wrong or it's just the parameters are not proper.

(I can hear the sound after removing the Spacial Audio Source script)

[tardy ridge]

nvm, found the issue, need to set it to 3D audio in audio source setting.

[cold hound]

When i change the setting for something on the Unity project the changes are changing back when i run the world, i need to change the Rendering Path to Deferred

[normal lintel]

I've got a card object with rigidbody (using gravity and not using Kinematic) & mesh collider (set to convex), the object it's placed on is a table where the mesh collider is just default. When i spawn in the card just falls through both the desk and the floor ignoring collision? not a clue why though everything is setup? Does the cards mesh being extremely thin have anything to do with that (i did model this manually in blender with 0.1 being the normal thickness, in unity i scaled it down to the correct size and reduced the thickness of the model by half within unity)?

[normal lintel]

So turns out at least in unity play mode having box collider instead of convex mesh collider fixes the issues. Will test in vrc as well, high hopes

[bold ibex]

How would I be able to use Jumping in a world using VRCSDK3 udon???

[cold hound]

How to enable it?

[bold ibex]

Yeah?

[cold hound]

1s

Click on World and here

[bold ibex]

Nothing here..

Nvm I got it sorted

Thanks for the help

[cold hound]

have you Build and test the world?

[bold ibex]

I realized that I had the program source wrong

Yes it was my girlfriends world and she was using SDK 3 so I didn't know how to sort the jumping thing

Thank you SO MUCH for the help!!!

[cold hound]

try with the WorldKit thing

that will help you

[bold ibex]

I have 2 sliders that control 1 object each to move it. When I hit play in unity, each one will control their object as desired. But in build and test neither object moves. (Edit cause I originally thought they moved one of them).

[subtle relic]

my pickups not respawning halp

[bold ibex]

I just put vrc pick up script, vrc object sync script, a box collider and there you go. Pickups that respawn. Well, then thrown out of the world. Respawning from still within the world. I dunno.

[harsh wagon]

How does JumpImpulse translate to jump height?

I want to get a specific jump height to match a certain game

[urban epoch]

JumpImpuse adds an Upward velocity to the player via impulse, so it's relative to the gravity scaling of your world, though that is presumably -9.81 m/s.
If you want to know how that directly translates, it's going to be an absolutely hot mess of math. I recommend trying out different values until you find what you like.

[vale plume]

trying to add the video player to my world but im getting (not just) these errors

using SDK2 with unity version 2018.4.20f1

[cold hound]

Witch Video player are you using?

[oak apex]

How do you add in a voice amplifier for a DJ booth?

[vale plume]

the one in here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTP-eIkYLZh7pDhpO-untxy1zbuoiqdzVP2z5-vg_9ijBW7k8ZC9VP6cVL-ct5yKrySPBPJ6V2ymlWS/pubhtml#

[cold hound]

What is the name sorry

[vale plume]

of the prefab? it's just called VideoPlayer

[cold hound]

When i was using 2.0, i was using this Video player

https://github.com/MunifiSense/Hangout-Player

Try with it

[vale plume]

I've deleted the old files but the errors are still there

[cold hound]

m... my last idea try running the unity project

[vale plume]

I can't as there are errors

[cold hound]

then i don't know maybe wait a bit more maybe a dev can give you a better hand than me

i tried i'm sorry

[vale plume]

I can try that player next but I gotto get rid of the errors first

[cold hound]

You could you start from scratch if not

[vale plume]

I already have a lot of stuff in this project

[cold hound]

i recommend you changing to 3.0

[vale plume]

doesn't work, that just gives me 250 errors

I am using the correct version of everything

[cold hound]

Then i'm sorry i don't know how to fix it 😅

[vale plume]

is there a download link for the HangoutPlayerAll? I only se HangoutPlayer

[cold hound]

They are on the Prefab i think

[latent perch]

NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
VRCSDK2.RuntimeWorldCreation.Start () (at Assets/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/Scripts/RuntimeWorldCreation.cs:82)

any ideas how this happens

nothing chnaged in the assets it just started doing this

it mentioned the SDK2 but i am running the SDK3

[wild knoll]

umm?

[near escarp]

I'll need to log you out manually to fix this issue, if you can give me your vrc username

[random owl]

Import this and check VRWorld Toolkit > World Debugger from the top bar and look for any any red errors
http://toolkit.onevr.dev/

[wild knoll]

Fenic112

[wild knoll]

TY! your amazing!

[near escarp]

Restart Unity and it should now work

[wild knoll]

yep all working thank!!

[dull island]

Hello. Is there a good free video player for maps?

[kind leaf]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTP-eIkYLZh7pDhpO-untxy1zbuoiqdzVP2z5-vg_9ijBW7k8ZC9VP6cVL-ct5yKrySPBPJ6V2ymlWS/pubhtml#

[dull island]

Thanks

[latent perch]

thank you for that information

[bold ibex]

I had to use 4 toggles for 4 different invisible floors because I couldn't get the sliders to work inside build/test even though they worked perfectly in unity. Oh well. haha.

[kind leaf]

vrc uishape attached to the canvas of the sliders? Sliders custom event set to check for value changed and update accordingly?

[bold ibex]

Yeah, they sliders are interact-able and work in vrchat, they just don't move the floors. When you hit play inside unity, the sliders will move the objects as intended. There might be more to do to get it to work in vrchat. I Would need to spend more time investigating, but in order not to halt building for another week I made toggles for now.

[kind leaf]

move instantly or over time?

[bold ibex]

I'm doing unity+c# course but I am just trying to finish this world before completing that. Instead of ping ponging in between.

They move instantly with the sliders movement. Up and down, no problem in unity.

[idle jolt]

I tried to follow this tutorial, but the collider is preventing me from entering the area. Is there a way to fix this and keep the trigger?

https://youtu.be/A70dtbfZeK0
Forgot link sorry

[bold ibex]

I drink too much to watch it and see what's up. I know the tutorial for sdk3 from momo works and when it is trigger it doesn't block you. Hopefully someone can help for now.

[kind leaf]

the collider should be on the moving door not the wall so if your collider is stopping you from moving the door is probably set as a static.

if you want to see where your colliders are at runtime. open both scene and game side by side, select the wall+door with the colliders expanded and they will highlight, run the game and watch to see if the door collider moves

you wont see the colliders in game view but you can watch that hidden stuff in scene view as the game is running

[timid hawk]

same here

[idle jolt]

My problem is that I don’t have a door being animated. I have two droids activating when a player enters an area, and then deactivating when the player leaves the area.

Is there a better way to accomplish this?

[untold pewter]

Sometimes when im close to a wall in a specific point, I can see through it, how do i fix this?

[mild spade]

Did you check/enable "Is Trigger" on the collider?

[idle jolt]

I did not. I always assumed that meant that you can click on it

Is that a common misconception at least?

[mild spade]

is Trigger means that it will not collide with other objects, but they can overlap other colliders and still detect other colliders interactions without affecting the physics engine. Good for detecting things entering an area, but you dont want that object to interact or move other objects. Hard to explain in words, this might help you understand. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0fjrQkaES4

[idle jolt]

So for my case it will let objects pass through but for player and player local layers it will activate the animation bool

[mild spade]

If you have a trigger event "OnEnterTrigger" then the collider needs to have IsTrigger checked for it to work. (the collider where the trigger is) If you are still having trouble, could you post a picture of the problem ?

[idle jolt]

Will do. I’ll scroll back up and reply to your message if the error continues to occur. Otherwise I’ll continue making my world. It’s pretty huge, but only has 26MB thanks to compressing textures and making them 512x512. Compressing meshes also helps immensely.

[mellow isle]

Any one knows how to fix the problem with VrChat Sdk

[bold ibex]

What's in the console?

[mellow isle]

I had it working yesterday but when i opened it toady it quit working right

[timid hawk]

An unimaginable halt to world progress, around a week I've been figuring this out on my own, The first one I truly need help with, the other three are optional. Using VRChat SDK3.0 and Unity version 2018.4.20f1 personal aswell with VRWorld Toolkit

Thank you honestly if I can have someone help me with this

Usually Happens upon every project

[kind leaf]

Object reference missing means just that. You are telling a script to look for an object but not giving it a name. Probably used "public GameObject objName;" but never drag n dropped the object into the inspector.

But those other 2 errors look like you have sdk2 installed. If you are using SDK3 and you installed sdk2 ontop of that, you cant rely on any errors to point in the correct direction until that is sorted.

To fix the sdk2 errors you need to remove everything vrc+udon and u# related and then reinport.

[timid hawk]

Ok

Thanks will see

[kind leaf]

If Unity crashes this can happen, if Unity burps on startup this can happen. Sometimes it just requires a Unity restart; other times you need to re import the SDK3.

[fiery creek]

hey i wanna make some seats but in game they look like a chair, i just want an invisible seatin the ground is it possible to delete the chair texture?

[near escarp]

Yeah delete the mesh renderer component

[timid hawk]

Question should I remove it from inside unity or file explorer route

[idle jolt]

There’s a lot of empty space in my world and I don’t know what to do with it…
The world is going to be Kashyyyk, from Star Wars

[kind leaf]

sry wrong rply bud

[idle jolt]

Ah, you’re good

[kind leaf]

was talking to the guy above hahah

[idle jolt]

Lol
Yeah, I just need ideas for objects to put in the area I showed in the image. The world has a lot but is only at 26MB thanks to optimizing

[kind leaf]

If you have custom C# scripts written or Nodes Ied remove it all live and import without restarting. If its just statics then either way works. Removing live will give a ton of errors but they will rectify on re-importing the sdk3.

start with foliage

maybe some rocks, more trees

terrain displacement helps break up an empty map as well. Big ass mountains arnt added to worlds for their aw factor; its a huge chunk of space you dont need to play with.

[idle jolt]

Hmm. Maybe. I do have one section with bushes though that have berries and NPCs collecting said berries

[kind leaf]

also looks like you are using one terrain texture, break up the green with gravel, dirt, trampled grass paths, dying grass; more textures also takes away from the empty feeling

[idle jolt]

Well, the problem with that is that the ground isn’t a terrain. It’s a mesh that I downloaded alongside some buildings.

The texture itself does break up by having some green but also a little bit of dirt and sand

That, and the texture does repeat smoothly

[kind leaf]

easy enough. open the land obj's texture in an editor like gimp and you can paint it the same way you would in unity's terrain editor.

just clone the original texture in gimp or w/e so you arnt being destructive

[idle jolt]

It’s an fbx
I don’t use obj as transferring from blender to unity is a pain with objs. The materials don’t get assigned, leaving it with a default material

Anyways, that’s not my greatest issue at the moment

[kind leaf]

it still has a texture, i just said obj in general. obj is also just short for object, which is a general term for anything "physical" in the world.

confusing when our two model files types are obj or fbx lol

[idle jolt]

Yeah, I just prefer fbx more.

But yeah, I just need objects in the area.

I did have an idea for campfires and roasting fishes above them, but not being able to use spotlights sucks as they really eat up on the MB

[kind leaf]

no way, really? Ive built clubs with many spotlights. Biggest club is 30MB? but point lights work good for fires

[idle jolt]

Really? Did you make them all important?

[kind leaf]

I dont change anything on the light except for the color, range and intensity. Spotlights are default settings and always realtime because its a spotlight. All other lights get baked.

[idle jolt]

Huh. I thought multiple spotlights in a world will only have one spotlight activated at a time…

[kind leaf]

oh noo, that would make dance floors look silly

maybe on quest, but not for general usage

[idle jolt]

Ah
You said point lights work well for torches?

Wait. Is spot light the one where it’s a circle or did I mix spot and point light?

[kind leaf]

yes, thats all i use for light sources. you can achieve flicker with realtime emissions on moving flames or a script on the light that expands and contracts the range.

[green lagoon]

https://gdbooks.gitbooks.io/legacyopengl/content/Chapter5/lights.png

[kind leaf]

ty

[idle jolt]

Ah I see now. Yeah, I meant that point lights eat up my world when I try to set all of them to important

[kind leaf]

if point lights are eating up space make sure you are baking your lights.

[green lagoon]

any lighting that would be static you would want to bake

[idle jolt]

I mostly use real-time lighting as it’s just nicer looking. If I do want to bake the point lights how would I bake only them?

[green lagoon]

you set the lighting type to baked and the real-time lighting is a performance killer

[kind leaf]

realtime light only looks nicer if you have the wrong bake settings. You can have a 12mb world that gets 5 fps with poor lighting choices. Always bake static lights.

[near escarp]

Nicer looking than baked ?

What kind of world are you making

[green lagoon]

like pretty much all of the lighting in Half-Life alyx is baked

and that game has some of the nicest Lighting in VR

[idle jolt]

At least to me. I haven’t baked any lighting, and I don’t have any performance issues and I own a preordered quest 1. I got Vader immortal for free.

[near escarp]

Ah so you didn't compare

[idle jolt]

?

[near escarp]

Did you bake the lighting in your world previously ?

[green lagoon]

you can't know the real time lighting looks nicer baked lighting than if you never do a proper baked to test

[idle jolt]

Nope. No baking whatsoever. Whenever I make a new world I turn auto bake off, or whatever it’s called.

[near escarp]

Alright, in that case it's not nicer

[kind leaf]

Do us a favor, build the world the in the direction you think is best; and when you are done, clone it and play with baking. Baking is essential to VRC performance and when you say you don't want to everyone reading has a moment lol. But its important that you start with whats easiest for you and then improve as you go 🙂

[green lagoon]

you don't have any comparison point in that case

[idle jolt]

If someone could take two screenshots with a before and after baking scene that would be greatly appreciated.

[near escarp]

If the world is fairly simple then a directional light won't cause much perf issue, but the more you add then the worse it gets

[green lagoon]

also if you have any active mirrors it gets much more perf issue

[idle jolt]

Actually, I just updated the world privately.
If one of you guys have the time to you could send me a friend request and here in say an hour I can get on and show you the world.

[green lagoon]

I doubt any of us are going to want to spend an hour just to check your role to point out what we already have said baked all of your lighting

[kind leaf]

So each light source multiplies the world vertis count of each object. a cube that has 48 verts has 96 with two lights in range. Those numbers add up fast. A baked world would have 48.

[idle jolt]

Ah. In that case I can just take a screenshot in game, and let you guys see what I see and post it here.

[green lagoon]

that number gets even worse if it's a shadow casting light source

[kind leaf]

oh gawd yes lol

[near escarp]

Just take a screenshot of the game tab with the game stats panel open

[green lagoon]

and double all of those numbers if there's a mirror

[idle jolt]

Alright, that’s good to hear. Give me an hour and I’ll post a screenshot. Might post several with different light sources and possible light sources such as torches without a light object.

[green lagoon]

so poorly done real-time lighting can turn like a 50,000 Triangle map into several million

and that's even before the Avatar show up

[bold ibex]

I have like 200 lights. If I didn't bake em, people would spontaneously combust.

Thats bc people use potatoes

And have the audacity to play games on it and complain

[near escarp]

That would kill any computer

[green lagoon]

open World sandbox games tend to use a different rendering style that makes it less likely to explode having lots of light sources

but we're a forward renderer so yeah 200 would make anybody explode

[bold ibex]

They baked though. So my quest fps still 90.

Don't actually know if it's 200, but it's a lot. Didn't count them actually. Just making joke for the real time lights.

[kind leaf]

yeah thats not a potato issue. Multiplying total verts adds up to astronomical numbers. I have a world that was 10k in any direction but 8mil with 5 directional lights. and no shadows.

[green lagoon]

that number would be even more insane once you put in a average rooms amount of avatars

[kind leaf]

oh yeah, i test on a very optimized avatar lol

[bold ibex]

I wonder if we can create a lighting black hole that could even suck up the IRL

I mean it took about 300m polygons of duplicated models to lag my computer

[kind leaf]

Thats impressive but that isnt a developer mindset. You develop for the masses not the 5 people with a quantum computer. 😛

[green lagoon]

okay but what's your frames per second in 100m polygons because of its lower than 90 still having it be too much

[green lagoon]

and that also exceeds like any AAA video game ever

[bold ibex]

If it lags my science kit powered pc powered by probes and an apple. It sucks.

[green lagoon]

like even Unreal Engine 5 with its magic nanite stuff is only pushing like 20 million on screen so 300m complete and utter Overkill

[near escarp]

That's why photogrammetry worlds suck ass

[green lagoon]

like even if you did triangle reduction it still every square inch is uniquely textured which is bad for vram

[near escarp]

and people just put a mesh collider on it

[green lagoon]

oh no

[bold ibex]

Probuilder automatically put mesh colliders on my cubes etc. Should I switch all for box or something?

[near escarp]

I don't know if it technically makes a difference in that case

[bold ibex]

In the end I merge all 500 cubes together via probuilder into one object anyway

The framework anyway

[green lagoon]

you know I honestly wonder how much of a photo-realistic map you could get for the vram budget of one photogrammetry map using proper trim sheet and tiling textures and overlapping detail on top

[idle jolt]

Finally got those pictures of my world! Let me patch them through

First photo shows a few buildings, and the second photo is a point light that isn’t marked important as it’s the only point light and because it’s high up and you need to get right next to it to see it

These photos show possible spots to put point lights

The problem here was discussing whether real time or baked lighting would look better in these scenes and whether I should put them a lot of point lights or not (I think I’m correct on the last one?)

[green lagoon]

yeah honestly a baked lighting setup would look better because currently it looks like you don't really have any lighting other than a vague color temperature

[idle jolt]

I guess the only reason I’ve never baked anything is due to how much trouble I had with it in the past. I tried to make a small apartment room but due to baking lighting messing up everything I ended up scrapping the entire thing. That was when I was younger and less experienced, so kind of glad that wasn’t my first world. Instead it was a Tatooine world with working speeders.

[green lagoon]

like your lighting doesn't really have any blue from the blue fire

and also everything is too evenly lit

https://i.gyazo.com/b073f7ad294133a4a5c8dd9ed14cbc69.png

https://p0.pxfuel.com/preview/832/341/297/tent-star-fire-night.jpg

https://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/wshu/files/styles/x_large/public/201810/foggy-forest-at-night-time.jpg

and probably the amount of real-time lighting to need to get that lighting to look nice would probably be way too expensive on the performance

[idle jolt]

Maybe I shouldn’t bake lighting, it would just take literal hours to get done. Yeah, I probably won’t unless there’s an easier way for it to take like 10 minutes.

[green lagoon]

maybe try GPU baking it instead of CPU and maybe play around with your settings

[bold ibex]

I never knew it took long. I started this like 2 weeks ago. Mine bakes in like 10 seconds.

[green lagoon]

either that's a very slow computer or you set your settings to make it like way too big DrFluff?

[near escarp]

If they bake in 10 seconds then there's not much to bake

[timid hawk]

Curious If I can use an older version of unity for vrchat

May fix some errors

Like 2017

[ancient timber]

im having a small issue

[timid hawk]

KevBal, it did not seem to work so I just erased everything was nothing much anyways

rip, that issue is more medium then small

[near escarp]

https://github.com/oneVR/VRWorldToolkit/wiki/Fixing-Build-Problems

[ancient timber]

thank you

[timid hawk]

Hopefully that can fix your issues, did not for me so I just gave up on it, I'm going to install unity 2017 now and see if it works

[ancient timber]

fixed the issue, thank you so much!

[timid hawk]

Good to know for me too, If I ever encounter that error

Taking notes on the side

[timid hawk]

Ok so I made a whole brand new project and only imported VRSDK3 and VRWorld Toolkit and added a floor with prefabs from VRChat

Now with over 21 lines of errors

I'm going to restart it a couple times and see if it works

No errors with VR Toolkit

Just tips and info

So I restarted it once so far now

Those errors listed are now gone although now my infamous error usually 52-74 but this one is 52

I just really want to upload my first world and put a hall of memories

[random owl]

Remove the VRCSDKWorld from your scene that's the upload UI, if you have it in your scene it's gonna break things

[timid hawk]

I see

Its not needed to publish with?

[random owl]

When you build & publish the SDK manages adding it to the scene when needed

[timid hawk]

So all I should do is make spawn points, and what about scene descriptor

[random owl]

The VRCWorld you have has the scene descriptor and the spawn points

[timid hawk]

I see now

If this really fixes it all, dear lord I should of asked earlier

I've been working to try and upload for so long you have no idea lol

So I decided to join the vrchat discord to ask for questions

There should be like tutorials on this stuff

Where I never found anything about it

But I'm going to test now

xd

Thank you 1

[random owl]

No problem

[timid hawk]

I've actually been working on this more than a week

I even went far to learn C#

Now I can make that dream I had

Wish there was a tip jar lol

I feel weird now, all that work and was that simple

[green lagoon]

that's being added in a future update in vrchat economy

[timid hawk]

Interesting

1 look foward to a tip

[green lagoon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/VRchat/comments/mqtjfr/vrchat_development_update_overview_outline_of/

[timid hawk]

mhm

I look forward more to listening to everyone's stuff and now I can help some friends who may encounter the same issue

[timid hawk]

I literally note everything down :P

[silent night]

https://gyazo.com/c378cf57ca9bee645452687e43fbca19

Managed to find this shot while finishing up world design on my latest commission

[bitter idol]

hey anyone find that ever since the "server throttle" times, worlds just take 7 times as long to upload now?

[deft geode]

so I have a ship model in my world and I keep falling through it when I spawn, I have a mesh collider on the body

[ornate turret]

make sure the spawn location isn't inside the body, have you tried moving it above the ship a little so you drop onto it?

also make sure the mesh collider has a mesh chosen inside its component too

there's a chance it could have applied an empty mesh collider (it should be the same mesh as the ship itself)

also make sure the layer of the ship isn't set to something that doesn't collide with the player (if in doubt, just set it to default)

[idle jolt]

What settings do you use for baking worlds?

[bold ibex]

i just uploaded a privat world to test it out, but im not seeing a mine tab in the worlds

[kind leaf]

looks like pirate island which is a beautiful asset.

[idle jolt]

I have decided to not bake my world, and to never bake any worlds in the future.

[bold ibex]

@idle jolt I was at work, but I used whatever spookyghostboo used in their start to finish video. So something like, turned off real time lighting all together. Set every light to baked. Then changed their individual settings to whatever for range and etc. I have like 100+ point/area lights in the scene.

not able to check at the moment

[idle jolt]

As soon i I clicked bake in the lighting settings my unity crashes.

It’s not worth my time to get upset over, so I’m done with it.

[silent night]

@idle jolt Just be careful with that, because Real-time lighting is STUPID expensive in Unity. Baked lights are the best way to go for performance. For reference, I have a 3070, and on my very first world I have only real-time lights because I was dumb. I get maybe 30-50 FPS in VR on it, in an empty world. That’s with at best, 15 real-time lights

[idle jolt]

Okay and?

I don’t have any performance issues whatsoever, and I have a preorder quest 1.

[bold ibex]

This is what I have, if this is the setting you are talking about.

[silent night]

Just making sure you’re aware. That’s with a strong card. Not everyone is going to have the same performance; I’m forewarning because I can try to help here fix stuff

[bold ibex]

It pretty much default, I think.

[idle jolt]

I essentially had the default settings too, and my unity still crashed.

To me, baked lighting is pointless.

[silent night]

Baked lighting is essential in worlds

I use Bakery personally

Don’t use Progressive CPU

Use the other one in the drop down

Hang on

[bold ibex]

I didn't hear about it before I started a couple of weeks ago.

I heard about the bakery after

[silent night]

Use Enlighten

Make sure auto-generate is turned off

[bold ibex]

oh my god yeah, f that auto generate hahaha

[idle jolt]

Another thing, what do reflection probes even do? They’re so small it makes me think they serve no purpose in an open world that trees and grass

[silent night]

Oh oh that’s a good question actually

[bold ibex]

I think I originally had it on enlighten but it wouldn't do anything. I'll try it again.

[silent night]

Reflection probes are AMAZING

Here hold on

[bold ibex]

In the video I watched they explained reflection probes but said they didn't really use them. Then put in the light probes.

[silent night]

https://gyazo.com/1e4fe4ef19b273e097e723ec7674efd9

With

https://gyazo.com/a6d9703f2230def754aa90e76b5e6c29

Without

[bold ibex]

my world is a more of a without kinda world

[silent night]

If you don't have "Reflective" surfaces, they aren't that required,

[idle jolt]

I must be blind or something because I don’t see a significant change.
Also, PC world?

[silent night]

PC and Quest compatible.

That one specifically.

[idle jolt]

Shocking.

[bold ibex]

The change in those 2 photos is enormous

[silent night]

Although,

In Quest you can't use box projection probes.

So it looks kind of doodoo.

[idle jolt]

The only reflective surface in my world is the water, and even maybe some vehicles.
Either way, I don’t see it as a must have.

[bold ibex]

I might do it in my next work, I kinda just want to get this one done.

as crude as it will be

I just tried to bake it with enlighten but it doesn't look anything like I want after. It looks how I want with the progressive cpu. Probably because I build everything using that setting. I will try enlighten next time.

[silent night]

I’ll DM you @idle jolt

[bold ibex]

Here's a question I have though. If you have a guide/video send it to me. If I want to make a UI canvas to control one or multiple things, like post processing on/off, chairs on off etc. I put a button in there but I Can't add the same udon behaviour to it that I can to a cube to toggle it. So I dunno what to do there really. It is interactable in build/test but doesn't do anything. So I need to figure out how to do that so I Don't have like a UI canvas with half a dozen thin cubes stuck on it. haha.

[bold ibex]

hello everyone!, hopefully you guys can help me...... soo i apload my second world but with some reason my second world its my first world when i join it, more confusing is that the profile pic of the world is the new world but inside is my first world...... if you think "try to delete the first map" i did but now when i join the world i crash and send back to my home.... have any suggestions how to fix it?

[desert python]

checks errors and try this out: https://github.com/oneVR/VRWorldToolkit/releases

[bitter idol]

help! i force quit my unity yesterday and now im getting a blueprint error saying my account doesnt have access too it. is my sdk broken? i was able to upload it last night a few minutes before the force quit. i made sure its using the right blueprint ID i have no idea whats wrong

also i force quit it when it was compiling shaders, not when it was uploading if that helps

[near escarp]

What's your vrc username ? I have to manually log you out to fix this issue

[bitter idol]

actually hold on i think my SDK some how broke when i force quit it. im getting more and more overflowexception console errors by the second

[kind leaf]

Re import the sdk and u# if u used it.

Doesn't pay to force quit unity. Not unless you enjoy passing away your time.

[bitter idol]

i have no idea how it broke my sdk though

[kind leaf]

You would put a stick in the spokes of a bike to stop. Force quitting unity breaks shit the same way the stick would.

Wouldnt

[bitter idol]

ah okay

@near escarp ok I reimported my SDK and it's still doing it. So my vrchat name is Digi The Robot

The blueprint error. Not the console errors

[near escarp]

Restart unity now and try again

[bitter idol]

Ok

It's building, unfortunately it's a massive world

Might have to make a new "world" and put the same ID on it to get to the upload screen faster if I'm still having issues

But we'll see! Hopefully there's no issues this time. Thank you

Yes!!! It worked. Thank you so much @near escarp

[untold pewter]

with the VRC_Sync Video Player (Script)
does the max quality only affect the videos set to autoplay, or all future videos played via the standard Video Player Component

[idle jolt]

Trying to bake my world, but the progress has completely halted. Is there any way to speed it up?

[untold pewter]

it can take a while depending on how many light sources you have

like my world takes almost 20 minuites to bake

because I have 120 point lights

[idle jolt]

I only have 8 and one directional and it’s been over an hour

[untold pewter]

that doesnt seem right lol

does it take just as long if you cancel and retry?

is your bake map absurdly high res aswell

my settings, probably not the "best" but seems to work

oh yeah, also make sure your mirrors arnt static objects

[idle jolt]

Basically everything is the same except for light map size and resolution

[untold pewter]

I think that fucks it

atleast it does for me

[idle jolt]

I accidentally had the mirrors be static…
Hopefully this makes it quicker

Reflection probes shouldn’t be static either yeah?

[untold pewter]

none of my probes are

[idle jolt]

Okay, tried that and it didn’t seem to do anything. Still stuck at the same number…

[untold pewter]

dunno how it would even try but you probably dont want to be calulating shadows on something that is calculating a reflection of a surface that is having its shadows caluclated

[idle jolt]

The only things different is that the lightmap size is 512 while the resolution is 10

[near escarp]

That's fine

You just have a giant unity terrain

[idle jolt]

That and I’m using enlighten instead of progressive cpu as that crashed my unity every time

It’s not even terrain. It’s a model that came with the buildings and trees

[near escarp]

If you have an Nvidia GPU, bakery asset is a great option

Welp, it's still a giant terrain

[idle jolt]

I have an old windows 7 Lenovo laptop.

[near escarp]

Yikes, yeah that'll take a while

[idle jolt]

I have a windows 10 laptop, but I don’t know how to transfer project files

[near escarp]

You just copy the folder

[green lagoon]

you just copy the project over to the new computer and then open it

[idle jolt]

How do I transfer the copied folder, and will it keep the same blueprint ID?

[green lagoon]

yes it'll keep the same build ID because it's the same folder

USB flash drive or SD card to put the project on

[untold pewter]

I was gonna be like, I can render it, but then Id be signing up to doing it for every single change, so ill pass, even if you agreed xD

[green lagoon]

https://i.gyazo.com/269f33fbe57a0bdfa0dc15aff01bed97.png Unity you can click the open button to open the the project wherever you transferred to DrFluff

[vale plume]

any feedback?

[near escarp]

Are the lights baked ?

[vale plume]

no they're realtime

[near escarp]

Are you changing their intensity in the world ?

[vale plume]

yeah im upping them a little bit

[near escarp]

I'd suggest not making the walls and ground reflective them, unless you want it to look like plastic

you might just need to remove the smoothness from your materials

[vale plume]

I wanted to sort of create the sides you see at cinemas

[near escarp]

Might need a normal map and roughness instead

Cinema walls are usually fabric

[errant beacon]

If you're just using the realtime lighting to make those wall sconces change intensity, you could probably do that much cheaper with a textured quad

unless I'm reading that wrong o:

[green lagoon]

https://i.gyazo.com/59e0f0487202066c1638a485df6c6604.png

https://twitter.com/EngineerNeet/status/1410559475509972992?s=20

NEET ENGINEER @LabVIEW広めたい (@EngineerNeet)

#VRC #VRChat
各光源が環境に与える影響を個別にベイクしておく事により、リアルタイムライトを使わずに複数光源を個別に調整出来るようにする手法。(加えてベイクなので間接光表現もできる)

単純だが意外と使ってるワールド見たことが無い気がするので一応

デモワールド：
https://t.co/COEivGuIP1 https://t.co/6ERR8zfAtR

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Twitter · Jul 1, 2021, 11:22 AM

a world showing off that kind of thing

https://twitter.com/EngineerNeet/status/1410802422574850049?s=20

NEET ENGINEER @LabVIEW広めたい (@EngineerNeet)

@ben_rainwolf well It's simple, I'm just mixing multiple lightmaps baked in blender

Twitter · Jul 2, 2021, 3:28 AM

but it can be even more simple as you don't have them overlapping on top of each other

[late ruin]

can someone help its my first world and im tryna upload so i can show some friends.

[desert python]

wait, is this an avatar or a world?

if its a world. go into the vrcworld prefab and detach the blueprint ID

[errant beacon]

This is a known issue, but try detaching the blueprint ID like literally menioned? otherwise afaik you'll have to be signed out by a dev for it to be fixed

[late ruin]

okay

[gray sleet]

Is there a way to prevent videos from restarting for everyone if someone toggles the video off for themself?

[late ruin]

there is no id there if this is what you mean

i have detached it as mentioned and it is still saying this yet i have built and tested the world and it worked???

literally in the test now

[gray sleet]

Is there a way to prevent videos from restarting if someone toggles the video off for themself?

So far I found out when I turn it off and back on it restarts. But for some people it plays where it left off. Why?

[near escarp]

@late ruinI have to manually log you out to fix this bug currently, what's your vrc username ?

[raw siren]

yo can anyone help me figure out how to reduce this unity_builtin_extra shader size its like 20 mbs

plz @ me

[late ruin]

i'll get it for you

[late ruin]

SQUASHYYVR

@near escarp could you let me know when it is done? thank you.

[near escarp]

Restart Unity and it should be fixed

[late ruin]

thank you!

[late ruin]

my unity is crashing when it comes to naming the world. well basically just shutting down.??

[near escarp]

That sounds like an actual unity problem rather than vrc sdk

[late ruin]

well thats not good

[raw siren]

rubik u know any about unity shader being huge for no reason

like these 2 shaders are taking up more space then anything else in my world

[near escarp]

I think those get compressed a lot ?

[raw siren]

well when these got bigger it went from 15 to 22mb world size

like my stuff is pretty compressed

[near escarp]

Might wanna ask in #shaders too, i'm not really aware of how shader size works

[raw siren]

ok thanks ruuubick

[bold ibex]

what this gonna do? or what is this?

[desert python]

its a error detector/world build helper in one

it may lead you in a direction that might fix the issue

[errant beacon]

It's 1's VR World Toolkit, a Unity plugin that's vv helpful for world building

detects errors, gives tips on things to be optimized, etc

[bold ibex]

owh ty

how do i use it?

[near escarp]

by reading the documentation on the github page

https://github.com/oneVR/VRWorldToolkit/wiki/Fixing-Build-Problems

[bold ibex]

k

[errant beacon]

Import the .unitypackage and look for the VRWorld Toolkit tab at the top, and open the world debugger from there - would also def recommend checcking out the docs c:

[late ruin]

my unity is randomly closes when i am about to publish a vr chat world any thoughts? or if i play the scene?

[kind leaf]

for ctd check the unity logs https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/LogFiles.html

[bold ibex]

can some explain deeper plz my english is bad

[arctic herald]

Heyo! I'm in the process of uploading a world and when i log into the menu and hit upload it does the start of it where it compiles blah blah blah and then in the area where i usually write info about the world it says that im not logged in. my console also says im not logged in. when i literally just logged in

[near escarp]

I'll need to manually log you out to fix this issue, what's your vrc username ?

[arctic herald]

i log in as LachyTV but my ingame name is Brooklyn?

[near escarp]

Done, restart Unity and it should work

[arctic herald]

worked, thanks!

[bold ibex]

I'm really new to working with stations. I've used the VRCChair example to apply everything it has (the box collider, Udon script, and VRC Station component) to a mesh and every time my avatar sits in the station, the avatar is always perpendicular to the axis the mesh is in (it's a horizontal flat surface, but the avatar is like laying down on the surface). I assume I need to change a transform to fix this somewhere, but does anyone know where?

[rain shadow]

@bold ibex The player enter location transform is the position that the player gets set to

You have it set as the cushion itself

Using the included chair prefab should give you an idea how it should be setup

[bold ibex]

and can that be somewhere else or a different mesh? like something underneath

I'll try

[rain shadow]

You can just make an empty gameobject and use that to set the sitting position

[bold ibex]

ah a good idea

[rain shadow]

If you search for VRCChair in your assets you should find a prefab reference if you need it

[bold ibex]

thank you for the help, I've got something that looks a lot better now 🙂

[bold ibex]

this doesnt help... it doesnt tell me the problem sigh

[near escarp]

The problem is in your unity console

which is what the documentation makes you check

[bold ibex]

i dont understand single word my english is bad

what is unity console

what document

😵

[timid hawk]

unity console refers to this

With all those red errors

[bold ibex]

i mean what i do with my error?

i know the error i just donno how to fix it

[timid hawk]

Find the root cause which Ruuubick was trying to help with

[bold ibex]

root? whats that

s-sorry if im dumb

[timid hawk]

root is like the main cause of something

[bold ibex]

oh ok i know which one

what i do with it?

[timid hawk]

I can't help you much at all sadly but help you understand

[timid hawk]

I'm new too

[bold ibex]

the blue one ;~;

and below it

just that 2 ;~;

[timid hawk]

Oh Compiler errors

Normally toolkit would help with that

Sometimes reloading your project can help

[timid hawk]

I recommend you click collapse on your console by the way

[bold ibex]

english my man help

;~;

[timid hawk]

Easier to see errors and more organized

I know, just we can't help much if you can't understand

[bold ibex]

;~;

[timid hawk]

What language btw do you normally speak if your ok with telling

[bold ibex]

indonesia

[timid hawk]

Ah

Hard to learn english as a secondary really so I understand that one

I sadly can't help with solving the errors but helping you understand is something I can do

[bold ibex]

i mean like im good at english but not like very diffecult words if you know what i meant

[timid hawk]

Mhm

[bold ibex]

uhhh so how do i upload any world like how do i put in the sdk or something cuz it says to do that and im new and dont know how

[timid hawk]

That is something I can help with a bit but solving errors nope

I'm still learning the ropes, never even got far as putting down furniture lol

[bold ibex]

i just need to know how to upload it

cuz it says i need a scene sdk or something like that

[timid hawk]

Ok what is in your project so far?

[bold ibex]

and i dont know how to put it in

just a ground

[timid hawk]

mhm

[bold ibex]

ok so do i need to add collisions to it?

[timid hawk]

There should be a prefab section in your project folder area

[bold ibex]

mk

[timid hawk]

If you don't use probuilder then yes, you need to manually add collisions

[bold ibex]

a

so how do i do that

im brand new to this

[timid hawk]

Component section

Best if I can visually show actually

I don't mind

[bold ibex]

sure?

on\ the left side you can find create button then you can put cube,circle,tube, and BEANSSS - dani -

[timid hawk]

Sure

[bold ibex]

what do you want me do

[timid hawk]

Earlier I was trying to fix something unrelated to unity on my PC with a missing registry I fixed

[bold ibex]

neat?

[timid hawk]

I'm going to do a picture by picture

To help

[bold ibex]

oh wait

i did it

B)

[timid hawk]

if you wanna add those required stuff go under favorites and click prefabs

[bold ibex]

rn im just trying to get my trust up

but yea this is going to help alot

[timid hawk]

It won't really affect trust that much

[bold ibex]

yea but it does something right

[timid hawk]

Literally you can just buy VRC+ at known rank or +250 hours and get trusted

[bold ibex]

o

[timid hawk]

Yeah

But still making a world is pretty fun

having others join and compliment you

Do you even got a VRCDSK?

Since you said you just got a floor

or ground

[fast python]

Question about the heat system

My world went from 5 flames to displaying the number 0 just randomly

[timid hawk]

That sounds weird

[lunar nimbus]

It is a bug that will fix itself

[timid hawk]

I find this funny

Its just a blank slate

10 visits

[random owl]

If you'd scroll down the page you were linked there would be a solution just for this case with the broken asset you have

[vestal wharf]

so i made a world, still a WIP but i upload it, and it doesnt have all the stuff that i put. its missing a few walls and furniture for some reason. how do i fix this? they show up in unity but not the game

[rain shadow]

Possibly accidentally marked them as editor only or the build is failing

[vestal wharf]

how do i fix or check that?

sorta new to it

[rain shadow]

Are the things not appearing in game things you added recently or did they stop appearing at some point?

[vestal wharf]

i did build and test the other day and a few walls didnt show up but i didnt think anything of it. when i published, everything added after that point doesnt appear in game

[rain shadow]

So likely build is failing

Check the console tab for errors

[vestal wharf]

no errors in the console

everything in this room doesnt show up

[rain shadow]

In the console where it says clear on play disable that and try build

[vestal wharf]

still doesnt show up

[rain shadow]

check the console for errors

[vestal wharf]

its empty

[rain shadow]

Move something in the scene that does show up and see if it moves

[vestal wharf]

nope it doesnt

[rain shadow]

So the build is failing and you have some sort of error

[vestal wharf]

would i be better off starting over? i cant find any errors

[rain shadow]

Whats in your console

[rain shadow]

yes those are errors

Delete the all free sky asset

[real knoll]

anyone know whats this about?

[tardy ridge]

just hit F5 to refresh the page, it should direct your browser to the vrchat home page

[vestal wharf]

That fixed it, thanks

[real knoll]

still says the same thing

[tardy ridge]

🤔 what's the url in your browser rn?

[real knoll]

https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_49374d9d-6e30-46c4-a4fd-e48fb2f27d87

[tardy ridge]

Seems like the world id you referenced doesn't exist?

[real knoll]

also says its successful tho

[tardy ridge]

🤔 I have no experience with private world, but based on its description, you should be able to see it when you logged in with the account you uploaded this world.

[real knoll]

i pressed upload to labs

[toxic plover]

After baking the lights in my world the terrain suddenly became really glossy even though all the materials are set to have to zero smoothness. Clearing the baked lights didn't help and removing all the layers and re-doing them didn't help either. Anyone have any idea how to fix this?

[minor nexus]

doing a attempt of making a spoopy map got some texturing done in substance

[vestal wharf]

Scp 087?

[minor nexus]

maybe

[vestal wharf]

Nice

[minor nexus]

working on the textures for the deeper layers ignore the strawberry jam

[lunar nimbus]

My identical projects do not have proper object syncing for pens, but work fine for toggleable firework. I cannot see people on quest using pens and they cannot see me, but we can all see each other use the fireworks. Does anybody know what this is

Some things are spawning where others should be spawning

[cunning nest]

anyone have any idea how that one world was able to play youtube to quest user?

[minor nexus]

you probably just use the stock vrc vid player

[cunning nest]

na the stock player doesn't play youtube on quest, that world is using some black magic fuckery

[minor nexus]

try to contact the creator

[cunning nest]

yeah was planning to do that

[unique wing]

Does anyone know why in SDK 3.0 standard unity video player setup doesn't work? It displays a still image of the video in-game, but the video plays fine in editor. (video is not a stream its a video that is part of the map) (Webm VP8 format)

[random owl]

The default unity player is blacklisted in SDK3 because of security concerns sadly

[unique wing]

I see, so I have to use the VRC Unity Video Player right? I hope this actually works on Quest as well. Reason I switched to 3.0 is because a quest user told me he just sees a black screen in the level

[random owl]

It works on quest as long as you aren't trying to play anything that requires youtube-dl

But sadly no support for local videos

[unique wing]

Yeah video is part of the map

Wait so it wouldn't work if the video is local?

[random owl]

Yeah can't do local videos in SDK3 at the moment

[unique wing]

That sucks

Thanks for the help though I appreciate it, I'll just delete the map for quest

[random owl]

No problem

[unique wing]

Wait sorry, one last question - if I want to take down the quest version of the map I just delete it while I'm on Android build, right? It won't fully delete the map? It seems like it might...

[random owl]

You will need to contact #vrchat-support if it's a public world where you want to just take down the quest side

[unique wing]

Its on labs right now

[random owl]

Yeah your two options are either delete the world and upload to a new id or contact support

But deleting the world will not give you another labs submission for the week so support might be better

[unique wing]

Yeah, I wonder if I can just have the quest version be different from desktop and not have a video player. Seems like it might cause problems

[random owl]

You can but having a different hierarchy can cause syncing problems between the platforms, easiest thing would be to just disable the gameobject for quest

[unique wing]

Sounds good, thank you :)

[minor nexus]

got it in unity now doing testing to see how it all looks

[late ruin]

0 errors yet i got to publish then unity closes..

do i need this?

literally gets to the naming of the world then unity dies

usings 2018.4

[unkempt turtle]

disable error pause

[late ruin]

bro thank you so much!

[solid atlas]

https://gyazo.com/83395afea1efd8ecf2088bdf8ddf1207

dafuq is happening

https://gyazo.com/2006b7ec0ee2863315da555f8bda0d73

[winter trail]

hello, so im making a world in unity but i dont like the name of it. how do i rename it?

[solid atlas]

when its in the window before you hit upload

change the name

[winter trail]

okay

[glacial pond]

This will be done in 20 years. Nevermind it will take longer than the heat death of the universe. Nevermind, it’s already done.

[winter trail]

ok so, im trying to upload my world to vrchat but when i do it, then an error came and says "The signed in account does not have acces to the blueprint associated with your VRC_Avatar (Or Scene) Descriptor please sign in with the correct account or detach the blueprint ID (accessible on VRC_Pipelinemanager) associated with the descriptor.

Any help? xD

[lunar nimbus]

Your blueprint is the code that is associated with your world that you set in your avatar descriptor, this happens if you are trying to publish under the account that did not publish that world

Make sure you are signed in with the correct account, and if you are ripping an avatar or world for some reason then you would have to make a new descriptor, but try not to do that

You can go to the content manager tab and copy the blueprint of the avatar you want to publish to and paste it in your descriptor

[near escarp]

I have to logout your account manually to fix this issue, what's your vrc username ?

[winter trail]

Its Viperz

[near escarp]

There's quite a few, can you post your user ID, it's the one in the URL when you're on your profile page

[winter trail]

sure

[near escarp]

starts with usr_

[winter trail]

https://vrchat.com/home/profile maybe this? idk xD

[random owl]

Click on the profile picture on that page and then copy the url

[winter trail]

https://vrchat.com/home/user/usr_3c236fec-0220-473a-91ea-b1f1e1ccf79a ah okay

[near escarp]

thx

Restart Unity and it should work !

[winter trail]

okay thanks

hm i still get that error :/

[random owl]

Guess it wasn't the bug that has been happening lately then

Did you have the world uploaded already to an id or is this the first time you are uploading it to vrchat?

[winter trail]

this is the first time i think.....

[near escarp]

Did you have to log back in ?

[winter trail]

no

[near escarp]

After restarting unity ?

[winter trail]

no i didnt have to log back in when i restarted it

[near escarp]

ok, close unity and i'll log you out again

[winter trail]

ok

[bold ibex]

Hi . I have a quest 2
Can i play my music in vrchat ?
I have no pc tho

[winter trail]

still get that error... xD

[near escarp]

You'll have to contact the support then

[winter trail]

hm okay

[random owl]

Might be worth trying to detach the blueprint once first

Go to the VRCWorld gameobject you should have dragged into your scene and press detach on the pipeline manager and then try to upload again

[winter trail]

ey lets go, it actually works to upload now

[brisk spear]

can we use shader graph

[rain shadow]

You can't but there are alternatives such as Shaderforge and Amplify that will work

[harsh wagon]

Is there a way to make moving platforms that people can stick to?

something someone could stand on while it moves

[rain shadow]

It is possible but it involves teleporting the player every frame with an offset of how much the platform moved

[harsh wagon]

That doesn't sound very good for networking

[rain shadow]

That's not really an issue

Though there is a bug with teleporting the player every frame in udon at the moment which is under review

[harsh wagon]

Hmm

While I'm at it, how would I go about making an object follow a path?

I was going to animate the object in question moving in a loop, but it'd look better if it could follow a path instead.

[rain shadow]

Depends on the exact setup and what you are actually doing

What is the object and what is the path

[harsh wagon]

I'm porting an old TF2 map called Mario_Kart

as the name suggests there are vehicles moving around

in TF2 there's a map tool called func_tracktrain that makes an object follow a path at a predetermined speed

I don't need any controls, just a gameobject moving around the track

I was going to keyframe all the cars as they go around the track, but that means the speeds vary a lot depending on how the key frames are placed.

[rain shadow]

Using nav mesh agents might work for that

You can give them points on the track to move to and they will follow the mesh to that point

[harsh wagon]

Any guides I can look further into?

[rain shadow]

There should be quite a few if you google for it

[harsh wagon]

They all seem to be fairly basic, I'm not sure how I'd force an agent to loop around

[rain shadow]

When an agent reaches one point you change its target to the next point along

You would probably need at least three points where it changes

OnEnterTrigger > Change to next target

Doing that you could also do something like randomize its speed slightly to create variance at each point if you wanted

[harsh wagon]

Oh no, these cars are extremely basic

move to point, instantly rotate to face new point, go straight to next point

they don't even turn smoothly

[rain shadow]

It should work pretty well with a very basic agent setup then

[tired herald]

question new to uploading when i enter my world i can only see out of 1 eye any tips on fixing this

[harsh wagon]

Turns out it's really easy to do with scripting, so I wrote a thing that moves objects to a sequence of empties

every time the object touches the next empty, it uses LookAt to point to the next one

[rain shadow]

Oh if you are using udon you should be asking in udon questions I answered assuming you were using SDK2

[bold ibex]

When i go to publish it wont let me type or check any of the boxes can someone help me figure out why?

[tired herald]

now when i try to enter my wold it kicks me out is that a polygon issue

[tired herald]

TheVoice at the top your pause button might be on

the ll

[bold ibex]

When i do that i can check mark it as a community world but i still can rename or anything

[bold ibex]

any other suggestions

[tired herald]

no im sorry i had somthing similar happen to me but thats how i fixed it im sorry

[kind leaf]

You can easily rename a world by logging in at the vrchat website, going to worlds, my worlds and selecting your world. No need to hold up the servers on a full upload if you are just changing names, descriptions, size, or tags.

Also, at no point should you have to press the pause button to upload or change information. In fact, it is required to stay in play mode the entire time. Pause breaks; that fancy VRC SDK UI is running in play mode so pausing it breaks the UI.

[harsh wagon]

Oh, I didn't use udon to do it

It's a C# thing

so I guess it's technically udon since it needs udonsharp

[late ruin]

whats the best textures for windows?

as in glass

[short gulch]

Unless you want the glass to have some dirt, I usually just go without a texture, make it transparent set the color to black or grey and max the smoothness, and increase the Metallic slightly

[late ruin]

thanks

[harsh wagon]

I tend to use 0.25 metallic and full smoothness, with the colour set to a teal colour like actual glass

[dusky crystal]

Hey, this is probably a frequently asked question but in unity the VRChat SDK only has one other option when i click on it meaning i cant upload my world or anything, what should i do to solve this?

[glacial pond]

You can only use shaders that support single pass stereoscopic

Most of the unity defaults do, as do all the popular VRChat user-made shaders

[glacial pond]

This is a sign that your set up is incorrect either the SDK was installed incorrectly or perhaps you were using the wrong version of unity (must be 2018.4.20f1, no exceptions)

[dusky crystal]

i am using version 2018.4.20f1 and ive reinstalled the SDKs so idk whats wrong

but when i put in the same SDK into a different project it works fine

[bold ibex]

anyone know where I can get a water shader that can run on quest worlds

[alpine flare]

I keep getting an error about "Asset bundle upload failed" when I try to upload my world. I've tried uploading it with and without Future Proofing ticked but neither way fixed it. I'm not sure what else to try? I'm using the most up-to-date version of SDK2

[near escarp]

https://github.com/oneVR/VRWorldToolkit/wiki/Fixing-Build-Problems

[wraith ruin]

Hey, does anyone here know how to cast camera/render texture to desktop view when in vr? Without using shader cubes and stream cameras. I've seen it done in couple worlds so i know it can be done but i have no idea how

[urban epoch]

Just have the camera you want to use have a depth greater than 0, I usually use 10. ALSO make sure that the last option "Target Eye" is set to None, otherwise sadness can occur.
Cameras default to being disabled in VRC, so you will need a way to turn on the Camera component, either via script, triggers, or animations.

[wraith ruin]

cameras do work by default for a render texture, you mean i have to toggle it off and on to it to work in the desktop window?

[urban epoch]

Correct. Cameras that render to the screen need to be manually enabled, since VRChat disables their component to avoid people running into this accidentally.

[wraith ruin]

Ok. Should i assing the camera as main camera in the vrcworld object or does it work without it?

Meaning that i have the main camera where i have set clipping planes etc like i want, but for the cast camera i want different settings, does it matter what camera is in the vrcworld? Do i need animate the camera change?

[urban epoch]

If you want to use a special camera for stuff then don't assign it to be the reference camera in the VRCWorld. Simply giving the camera a higher priority will make it render over the other one in your scene.

[wraith ruin]

Hmm okay. Was just wondering how the clipping plane settings change for the vr view then, since they are controlled by the reference camera.

But thanks a lot! 🙂 Im sure i can figure out rest of it myself

[tired herald]

Hi thank you for pointing out what is wrong appreciate it. But im sorry in not sure how to fix it do you may have a video you know of i could watch or if its not to much trubble if you could help me fix it.

[vale plume]

too much glow?

[tired herald]

no

looks good

[vale plume]

ight ty

[tired herald]

yep

[late ruin]

aint much but it is a first world

[timid hawk]

Pretty nice

[hard lance]

so i have bakery set up handling all my baked lighting, but the player model is very dark. do i still need to have realtime unity lights enabled? bakery keeps turning off realtime...

[near escarp]

you need lightprobes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKgUJccjWRU

[velvet pebble]

anyone know of any working strobe light prefabs?

[kind leaf]

No, but its not hard; get yourself a cluster of lights, give each a different color, deactivate every other one, and declare them individually or as an array in a script set a toggle bool and set their active state !active state and repeat until the bool is false. Thought it be a brilliant Idea to add a strobe to my first world. 100% disapproved (Strobes piss a lot of people off). Looked bad ass though.

[bold ibex]

How do I fix please remove excess tags before uploading when trying to upload world

[unkempt turtle]

you cannot have more than 5 tags (i think) per world. make sure you dont have more than that

[bold ibex]

How do I remove them

[unkempt turtle]

by deleting some entries in the tags list i assume?

you cant have more than 5 tags

[rain shadow]

You can't change post processing profiles directly you would need to make a post processing volume for bloom and change its weight value

Also for udon specific questions you would want to ask in #udon-general

[random arch]

hey question im trying to create a giant sphere around my world with a texture on it does anyone know how to like invert the texture so its facing the inside?

[rain shadow]

You can do that on the mesh itself or with a shader

[random arch]

is there any shader you can recommend that make it easy i am poop with meshes

[rain shadow]

What shader are you currently using?

[random arch]

pyomi pro and a few others for random objects around the world

[rain shadow]

poiyomi should have the option to change the culling which is what you want

[random arch]

alright let me have a look

you are a life saver thankyou

[cunning wolf]

Hello there. Would this be the right channel to ask for assistance with worldbuilding issues?

Specifically, getting a video player working.

[idle jolt]

How do I make animations become global? I’m not talking about via a trigger, I’m talking about a controller.
In my world I have a moving chair but it is not synced up to the world. Because of this different people will see the chair in different positions.

[cunning wolf]

I've been making an 80s/90s retro arcade world for the past month or so in SDK2, learning how to world build as I go from Yotube tutorials etc. It's finally up and out of the labs and I have pretty much everything working - lights baked, probes and occlusion working, decent framerate, mirrors toggling off when you exit the trigger range for them etc etc.
One thing remains out of reach though, and that's a working video player. Scripting a video player myself with a working UI is way out of my league at present, so I'm using the Munifisense Hangout Player (2020).

The problem is, the player works fine if it's just me in the world, but as soon as other people join it turns into a jerky desynched slideshow, as you can see in the attached screen recording:
https://youtu.be/YeOKohNlkzQ

The video I have playing on the screen is an unlisted showreel of my own work. I used the compression settings that this post said to use for VRChat video players ( https://thegreatpug.com/vrchat-making-a-theater/ ), so I don't think it's the video that's causing the playback to fail..? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMhaQhKcono

Here are my video player settings, if it helps.

[leaden hazel]

Remember to place a warning at your spawn point before any bright effects take place and if possible, allow them to be disabled to protect those with various light sensitivities.

[leaden hazel]

Oh hey is that the world where you start outside in the rainy alley before you go in? :)

[errant beacon]

^ checking out https://www.epilepsy.org.uk/info/photosensitive-epilepsy/web-design might be helpful too if you have strobing in your world/avatar! o:

[leaden hazel]

As a thing, it might be good if there was SDK / system support to mark things as devs like this and automatically deactivate certain effects if a player enables an option to do so. And let people report if a world contains flashing lights but isn't tagged as such.

[errant beacon]

def might be a good post for https://feedback.vrchat.com/feature-requests actually

[leaden hazel]

I was visiting your world last night with myself (very cool BTW, I love the atmosphere) and at least one other person and I didn't experience any poor video playback. Unless this is something not happening in the current released version and only your next version?

Hmm?

I'm afraid you've confused me a bit!

[cunning wolf]

@leaden hazel Yes, that's the world, with the rainy alleyway. I'm glad you liked it!
That's very odd about the video player. I seem to be having nothing but problems with it.

[leaden hazel]

Brought me right back to the sort early 2000s student haunts during my university years.
And you have a mirror in the bathroom that actually works. Infuriates me so much people putting mirrors in bathrooms in their worlds that for some reason aren't also actually mirrors for no good reason! XD
I'm afraid I can't offer too much help with your issue as I've only worked with SDK3. How many people have you tested with? And with different avatars and things? Like I said I didn't experience the issue myself. So it could be something that's not actually wrong with the world but something else entirely.

[cunning wolf]

Hmm, I wonder...
When it's just me it's fine but if I spawn into a version that already has people in it the player is just frozen. It seems to break if it's anything above just one person in the world. But if nobody else is actually seeing the problem and it's just me, then I can certainly live with it.

[leaden hazel]

Spoke to my friend who visited with me, they didn't see any issues too. Ah.. Could it be something to do with the player trying to sync its position and getting stuck?
I believe we restarted the video player so we're were in sync on it.

So it could be a networking related issue as it tries to say 'play and skip to ten seconds in' and then that bit goes wrong...?

[stiff yoke]

Hello, I just started to learn how Unity work. I'm trying to understand how to create a world with unity, and I find this video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynQRg4LhNjE&ab_channel=VRChat ) with a "VRChat Home Kit", a project with a prefab home, where I'm learning how to change colours, ect.
I'm having an issues with the upload of the world, when I try to upload it it show this.

[leaden hazel]

Again, I'm in SDK and Udon and syncing and networking is trouble there too. I don't know how players sync in sdk2.

[stiff yoke]

If anyone could help me to understand what's the problem and how to fix it it would be really helpful!

[leaden hazel]

It looks like you've deactivated your main camera?

Or well, that's happening on upload. Hmm

[stiff yoke]

That's the Camera Inspector

[leaden hazel]

Checkbox at the very top left

Next to its name

[stiff yoke]

Ohh

Thanks!

Let's see if that was the only problem ahha

[leaden hazel]

See if it behaves then. Items on the scene hierc... Heirc... Tree list thing on the left, will be light grey if they are turned off for reference.

I can't spell that word. XD

[stiff yoke]

It's still not working for some reason

I could maybe know why but not how to fix it, one second I'll recreate the project

[near escarp]

those errors aren't a problem

[stiff yoke]

Could this be the problem? I import the world but then I have to setup layers

[near escarp]

You never added your layers ?

[stiff yoke]

No, it's my first time

I downloaded the VRChat Home Kit from the official VRChat youtube channel

Collision Matrix it's not a problem as well?

[leaden hazel]

Do the thing! ;)

That should be automatically resolved by step 1

[stiff yoke]

The strange thing is that the "build and test" work but for some reason it can't publish

[leaden hazel]

On the authentication tab, does it say you're allowed to publish?

[stiff yoke]

Yeah

[leaden hazel]

Basically hit auto fix and follow the instructions whenever that panel reports a problem. Only very rarely is it okay to ignore kt.

It*

[stiff yoke]

Probably the error is there

I don't know, I'm trying to guess

[leaden hazel]

Sometimes you do just get things like that during the build process that you can ignore.

What does the VRC panel say now?

[stiff yoke]

When I hit "publish", this appear on the vrc panel, while the unity application stay like this:

If I play "pause" on the top-middle, the vrc panel reset

And I have to click again on "publish", but it does the same thing

[leaden hazel]

That is a bit odd, what should happen when you hit publish is it goes to a special publishing screen in the game view.

[stiff yoke]

Yeah, I know, I'm following the official VRChat video with this unity kit, but for some reason I don't get the publishing screen

[leaden hazel]

I'd have to get the kit myself. Have you made many changes or were just trying to do a 'build it as it comes' thing?

[stiff yoke]

At first I did some changes, but since it didnt work I created a new project without doing any changes at all

And it still doesn't work

I got it from here: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/vrchat-home-kit

[leaden hazel]

Question, with the kit, was the vrchat panel and that already there when you opened it up?

[stiff yoke]

I opened the SDK before I open the kit

Should I try a new project with only the kit?

[leaden hazel]

No, it won't work. I was just wanting to check the kit didn't come with an SDK that was out of date.

What is the version of the SDK just to check anyway? It's on the last tab of the sdk

[stiff yoke]

VRCSDK2-2021.06.03.14.57_Public

Maybe the kit is too old?

[leaden hazel]

Sdk is up to date. Hmm.

peers wait, is this world expecting... SDK 2 or sdk 3?

And which one did you load in...?

[stiff yoke]

I did load the SDK 2

Oh

Wait

I tried to ctrl+f in this channel to see if someone had the same problem that I have

There is someone who had the same issues

And he said he fixed it by delete the "sample scene"

#world-development message

[leaden hazel]

Try it?

[stiff yoke]

But where is the "sample scene"?

[kind leaf]

Press the project tab at the bottom.

navigate to assets / scene

[stiff yoke]

Find it

thank you

Let's hope this will fix it

Nothing changed

[kind leaf]

yeah, its not publishing because of the errors shown to you in red font.

deleting the sample scene isnt going to change that. Deleting the kit scene would lol. but you dont want to do that. The errors need fixed.

the 3 visible errors are because of the chair being used. remove the chairs from the scene or fix them? I don't touch sdk2, if it isnt C# I dont have any clue.

For something more "learning mode" friendly, you can try Youtube https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=vrchat+sdk2+chair there are plenty of beginner quality tutorials for every object you might want in your scene.

[stiff yoke]

I tried by removing the chairs but nothing changed

I guess I'll try to use the kit and not the already assembled kit, maybe it will fix that

Maybe this is the error?

But it shows up when i load the SDK

[leaden hazel]

Hmm. That does sound like there is something wrong with the kit but I have no idea what. I'm not free at the moment to check this out or I'd help further. :/

[stiff yoke]

Thank you so much Nidonocu

Yeah, the issue is probably the kit itself

When I load it it shows up the 2 visible red errors

[alpine flare]

I keep getting this error whenever I try to upload my world. "Error updating content. Asset bundle upload failed. Failed to upload file."

I've already tried uploading with and without future proofing but to no avail. I'm using the most recent version of SDK2. The only thing in the console that stands out is "Cannot start an upload against anything but the latest version of this file: 2, 1" but I'm not sure what this is referring to?

[dusky crystal]

how can i update my world if i change something in unity?

[unkempt turtle]

upload to the same world id again

it replaces the old version automatically

[dusky crystal]

what do you mean?

how?

[unkempt turtle]

you just upload again

it should say "update world" instead of "upload new world"

[dusky crystal]

in unity in the SDK at the botton it says build and publish world

[unkempt turtle]

yes, you press that again

in the upload screen it says update rather than upload new

[dusky crystal]

It still says upload

just upload

[unkempt turtle]

then make sure to attach the world id of the world you want to update

[kind leaf]

The error is telling you exactly what is wrong. A missing script in a public prefab is not common; it wouldn't have made it to the public list if it was broken. So something was imported wrong. Starting a new project by opening the "kit" is sloppy. You start a new 3d project, import the sdk, then import anything else like the kit. Scripts references are broken when the order of operations is not performed correctly.

[dusky crystal]

What do you mean?

[unkempt turtle]

make sure the pipeline manager component on your vrcworld prefab has the same id attached to as the world you want to update

[dusky crystal]

huh?

[kind leaf]

Ive never seen the update/upload difference. The fact is that you just do exactly what you did for the first upload

[dusky crystal]

so just upload it again?

[kind leaf]

yes

VRC handles the rest.

[dusky crystal]

wont that make another of the same worl?

world

[kind leaf]

nope

it will only make a clone if you removed the ID. If you dont know what the ID is then you didnt remove it

[dusky crystal]

no idea about the ID or anything

[unkempt turtle]

if the id is the same, it will upload and replace the current world with that id
if the id is empty or different, it will either create a new world or replace another world that has that id (if its one of your ids)

[dusky crystal]

where do you fin the id?

find

[unkempt turtle]

either in the pipeline manager or on the website

[dusky crystal]

which website? the vrc home or a different one?

[unkempt turtle]

vrchat.com

[dusky crystal]

yeah but where do you find the Id there?

[unkempt turtle]

in the URL

[harsh egret]

does poly count matter when uploading worlds?

[unkempt turtle]

only performance wise

[dusky crystal]

ok so then how do i make sure that the ids are the same?

[unkempt turtle]

by comparing them?

its literally a string like wrld_ac86cf71-a362-4856-b7f7-2218d1974fab

[harsh egret]

because i want to import some statutes that are high poly

[unkempt turtle]

as long as its not too crazy and optimization is alright, it shouldnt really matter

[harsh egret]

its over 100k poly but it uses only one material

[kind leaf]

@dusky crystal you can clone the id from the sdk content tab as shown here. The pipeline is shown on the right(2).

[harsh egret]

some of them are more higher like 400k

[dusky crystal]

ah ok thanks

[kind leaf]

if the pipeline isnt empty just leave it alone and upload as normal. You cannot accidentally change the id because to change it you would have had to hit detach.

[harsh egret]

is that a issue

[unkempt turtle]

you should probably decimate it

[dusky crystal]

whats the pipeline?

[unkempt turtle]

that thing

[kind leaf]

image with the 2 label shows where the pipeline is if you are using the VRCWorld prefab.

You will find the VRCWorld object in the Hierarchy. Usually labeled as that. If you or whoever built the world used the starter kit it might be inside WorldInfo (also in the Hierarchy).

[glacial pond]

Polycount does not matter much, the important things are making sure you enabled and baked object occlusion, and baked your lighting instead of leaving it real-time. (Unless it’s very optimized and can do real-time well) and done light/reflection probes so avatars are shaded properly

[kind leaf]

OC isnt going to save performance with the statue when it is rendered. You wont have an issue on PC but Quest is going to lag or CTD as soon as the statue renders or tries to. 100k is 2x higher than is permitted.

[harsh egret]

i decimate the statues to like 10k poly

[scenic hare]

no, actually

i have no issues with 500k polycounts on quest

yes, no issues means a locked 72hz

if you make sure you aren't using expensive shaders and bake your stuff properly you will be fine

[kind leaf]

"
Worlds
While building worlds, you should try to keep polygon count low. You want to leave room for the user's avatars as well. We recommend that you budget approximately 50,000 triangles for your world in total."https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/quest-content-optimization
500k on a single object? kk

[scenic hare]

no, thats 500k for the entire world

what i'm saying is that its not all polycount

if you have a world with a bunch of cameras in it, you are going to get a low framerate on quest even with n64 level polycounts

meanwhile, if you only use vertex lit 3d models without textures you will probably be fine with 2-3M tris

[glacial pond]

Of course one avatar is not going to be a problem, you’re using up all of the polygons for an entire room. You need to test everyone using a different, unique, avatar that each uses 500k tris in a different object. Then you have a fair estimate.

All you’ve proven is one person in the instance can be a performance hog.

[scenic hare]

oh no definitely don't do that with avatars

[glacial pond]

Worlds I find can go up to 2 million and not have an issue as long as everything is being occluded when you’re not looking at it

[scenic hare]

yes

which is my point

[glacial pond]

It’s more of make sure you can’t see everything at once

[scenic hare]

using 500k on an avatar is just bad

[scenic hare]

i mean, even when rendering 500k tris at once i don't really run into issues in the world i'm working on right now

yes that is on quest

[glacial pond]

Is it filled with Avatars though

[scenic hare]

yes

well, depends on your definition of filled

[glacial pond]

Fair enough then!

[scenic hare]

its designed to only accommodate up to 8 players tho

[glacial pond]

It’s easy to make a world that squeaks by on full frame rate when it’s empty but people forget it needs to get filled with Avatars as well

[scenic hare]

so i don't think avatars will be that much of a problem (but yesterday i was testing with 12 people)

[scenic hare]

yeah more people makes everything worse

[kind leaf]

Your point disregarded what I was telling the OP. Culling doesnt eliminate the 100k object. The moment you render it you are rendering the full 100K.

So no matter how much you bake or cull the moment that camera turns to the statue you get hit with a 100k poly obj.

unless you divide the statue up by faces so each angle can be culled separate

[copper compass]

anyone know where i can get some good button textures? UI button i mean lol

[mild spade]

Like these? https://fonts.google.com/icons?selected=Material+Icons

[copper compass]

no, i mean this is good to have too, but lemme get an example or 2

more like UI styling

cosmetic

[untold pewter]

Im only getting udon graph and utlilities in the sdk menu, tried removing and reimporting and its the same

[random owl]

Check your console for errors

[untold pewter]

107 errors all refering to udon stuff not being found, UdonSynced, UdonSharpBehaviour, UdonSynchedAttribute, ect

[bitter idol]

i have a realtime reflection probe set to bake on awake. i have triggers that when the player enters the room the probe will wake. it doesnt work. why? yes ive made sure the component starts off and is enabled by the trigger and ive made sure the trigger is on the right layer because ive used the same trigger collider for something else

btw i can see the reflection in unity if i turn on the probe

[untold pewter]

Guess I'll just stick to sdk2, at least I can actually use thst without the console dissappearing

[eager garnet]

im trying to put background music in a certain part of my map, but if i set the audio source to 2d it will be heard even outside of the set range, but if i set it to 3d it will sound like its coming from a set spot and wont sound right as background music