vrchat-general-2

[sharp saddle]

I might be super late to the party but I just found out the loading music has a name.

[noble depot]

lmao yus

the old music is named too iirc

[sharp saddle]

Mhm.

[quartz kite]

who wants to hop on and just chill?

[lean kelp]

is there a channel i can get my issues fixed with vrc?

[cloud summit]

You can always ask for help in #user-support-old.

Oh nevermind you already went there.

[hearty pine]

Hey guys, guess what
Video games OowoO

[sharp saddle]

No waaaay.

[hearty pine]

Lol im just bored

[noble depot]

They're banned, full-stop

[wicked briar]

he's trying your mom platform

[noble depot]

all modifications/plugins/mods/programs that modify VRChat's installation or game client at installation/runtime are against TOS and bannable, regardless of purpose/intent/extent of use

yes, that's still against TOS

If it modifies VRChat, it's game files, installation, game client or etc, it's against TOS

yes, that's against TOS

modifying the game client/engine/SDK/files/OpenVR.dll, that's under the same umbrella

that'd still be against TOS, if it's changing VRChat's files

otherwise if it's an update pushed by VRChat, it's obv fine

obv, but that's very obviously modifying the game's files

If you took Unity out of VRChat, would it run? - kinda thing lol

mate stop trying to find loopholes lol, read TOS section 12

again, to lay it out super pedantically - modfiying the game's client, installation files, engnie files, files intrinsic to run the game, modifying the game's code, OpenVR.dll, or anything in it's Steam/Oculus/Viveport installation, is against TOS, no matter if the modification takes place on installation, at runtime, in memory, in a hex code editor, etc

a SteamVR addon like OVR Advanced Settings/OVR Toolkit/XSOverlay is fine, as long as they don't modify VRChat's files (which is the above list)

again, that's still against TOS lol https://hello.vrchat.com/legal

[meager solstice]

What lmao

[noble depot]

you can word it or find as many loopholes as you want, but it's still pretty clear what you're not allowed to do

[meager solstice]

Yes

[noble depot]

yes, modifying VRChat is against TOS and isn't allowed, whatsoever

yw lol

That's against TOS, and a vv bad idea anyway

might be something for the canny? would def be abused for alts and stuff though

As long as it doesn't modify anything in VRChat's SDK and doesn't spam the API or anything, that might be fine?

could also contact support directly to see if that'd be permissible o: http://help.vrchat.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[noble depot]

heck lmao

[vocal shard]

don't tell mark but my head fukin hurts in it's so late

I can't do nothin

[sharp saddle]

Who's Mark?

[vocal shard]

the person who spoken above my message

who fukin told him?

my head

PILLS?

i Know i drank to much but drugs fuckin no.

[sharp saddle]

...The fuck is going on?

[vocal shard]

mark you tell him

[sharp saddle]

Who is Mark?!

[vocal shard]

elons kid. abov my message

[vocal shard]

fuckin, i drank to much. i 17 and i was told to sleep. i woke up now and my head fukin hurts.

it's 3am

i guess I'm not gonna get help ere ok fukin goodnight again.

[meager solstice]

No one cares

Nah

[vocal shard]

.

[open crescent]

I guess you're mark now

[sharp saddle]

Oh hi, Mark.

No idea.

[broken plover]

atleast 7

probably

😎

I'm guessing it's because florida men kept getting weird names so they raised the prices

[sharp saddle]

I never bothered knowing the price of a legal name change.

Too complicated.

[broken plover]

Literally anything that's way different than anywhere else in america probably traces back to a story involving a florida man doing some dumb stuff

[fresh garnet]

Hi, I'm probably that guy.

[wild spruce]

Im mute on vrchat not talking

[vocal shard]

Ah I see

[cloud summit]

xD.

[waxen quail]

hi

[cloud summit]

Hello.

[vocal shard]

hi

[cloud summit]

Ha.

[vocal shard]

ye.

[cloud summit]

Indeed.

[vocal shard]

mhm.

[cloud summit]

Yes.

[vocal shard]

ye ok?.

[cloud summit]

Ok indeed.

[vocal shard]

whit.

[cloud summit]

Hmm

[willow kiln]

Hmm

[hazy gyro]

does anyone know any worlds that are good for taking avatar pictures in? something with a bunch of poses for desktop?

[open crescent]

The MMD worlds

[fleet jasper]

I said I would play with someone but I said to another person I would play aswell what do I do

[twin fractal]

play with both..?

[waxen quail]

whats up

[silk wind]

hi

[amber canopy]

Hey

[hearty pine]

Anyone wanna play murder?
I’m weird as hell tho

[noble depot]

#user-support-old most likely - check your safety settings though, you might have some ranks muted o:

If they don't have muted icons on their nameplates, and if you can otherwise hear VRChat's audio fine, you might be missing the VS16 redists: https://aka.ms/vs/16/release/vc_redist.x64.exe

[hearty pine]

:3

[vocal shard]

Yo

[terse plover]

Hey @modern sand I bought the vrchat plus and it didn't give it to me,my card said I bought it too

[modern sand]

Feel free to reach out to the #vrchat-support and they'll help you out

[umbral reef]

Make sure it didnt just go into your steam wallet

[storm moat]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 37624 users in VRChat currently

[storm moat]

damn

almost 40k

[lucid zephyr]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 37472 users in VRChat currently

[vocal shard]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 37429 users in VRChat currently

[vocal shard]

!Online

[floral flax]

There are 37427 users in VRChat currently

[vocal shard]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 43022 users in VRChat currently

[cloud summit]

Bruh there is #bottalk for this.

[fresh garnet]

[velvet quarry]

I always wonder why people don't just look at the counter in @floral flax 's status in the member list.
At worst I think that number might be a minute or two off.

[noble depot]

mobile maybe? I don't remember how the mobile user list looks

[velvet quarry]

True, still think it'd be quicker to slide the member list up, but I suppose not everyone might think to look there.

[meager solstice]

I’m on mobile and I hit the user list, the bot is right there pretty much

[unreal verge]

[severe monolith]

I just had someone try ripping my private avatars and tether them and they also tagged them

[fossil idol]

Delete avatar, Reupload.

[cold talon]

wow, modded phone discord client, smh my heads

[severe monolith]

Shouldn't vrchat stop people like that

I couldn't get the guys username because he was using a modded headset that was heavily modded

I'm on Quest so I can't

And the guy was using a heavily modified VR headset that had turned him invisible glitch where it says username could not be seen or anything

And they were putting little boxes into the avatars so that way they could rip them and any ones that they couldn't put the boxes in they would tether

With a lot of my avatars I paid 4050 bucks sport

Their little boxes that let the Rippers know in different colors green is for naught Rip's yet red is for not fully ripped yet and then black is for fully ripped

I can't post any pictures in this chat

[cold talon]

use imgur
⁽ᵗʰᶦˢ ᶦˢ ᵃⁿ ᵃᵘᵗᵒᵐᵃᵗᵉᵈ ᵐᵉˢˢᵃᵍᵉ⁾

[severe monolith]

I've got a picture that has the code from one of the boxes and tethers that the Ripper is reusing

[unreal verge]

I don't understand

[severe monolith]

I posted the picture in VRC pictures

[unreal verge]

Uh

That's pens?

[cold talon]

i still dont get it

so they are using coloured pens to write "code" ingame that marks/rips avatars by reusing "tethers"

[unreal verge]

[cold talon]

also, you paid 4k on avatars

[unreal verge]

I mean, if he feels it was a good investment then

[severe monolith]

Yes because their custom avatars

And what they're doing is there stealing the avatars

[cold talon]

even custom, that sounds like a lot, at least its multiple

[severe monolith]

I really think vrchat should get rid of the Rippers or at least stop the Rippers

[unreal verge]

Impossible

[severe monolith]

Because tonight I was just hanging out with some friends and this kid came in with a modded headset that was tethering my avatar and he was trying to steal it

And the kid was invisible because his headset was heavily modded what's some expensive mods

[unreal verge]

Don't even need mods for invisibility

[cinder bolt]

Dude, ripping is literally impossible. They get banned instantly. Also, it was their avatar. There are avatars that use certain shaders (I think) to hide the name

[severe monolith]

Then can anyone explain what my custom avatar was doing on the Ripper store

[cinder bolt]

Well, let me rephrase

Hotswapping

[cold talon]

am i really the only one out of the loop as to what tethering an avatar means?

[unreal verge]

Everyones avatar is on that website, can't do anything against that

[unreal verge]

I don't either

[wicked briar]

spell icup

for free vrc+

[cold talon]

done, now gib vrc+

[cinder bolt]

I think it means like, there's a mod out there that can basically put a leash on you towards a person so you can't go X meters away or something

I've heard of it.

[severe monolith]

And can anyone also explain why someone claimed my private Avatar when they got off the Ripper store and now my avatar says Avatar not available

[cold talon]

yeah, you can ask them to remove it from there, so they did you a service

[unreal verge]

I might know which one you mean but that requires both to have it

[cinder bolt]

Nope

There's one that just does it without needing permission.

Happened to me lol

[unreal verge]

You sure it was a mod and not a world feature?

[cinder bolt]

It was in the black cat

[unreal verge]

Mmh

[cinder bolt]

Pretty sure i know the name of the mod they were using but I can't say cause haha rules.

[unreal verge]

They don't respond to any requests anymore

[severe monolith]

It also couldn't be read by e m n

[cold talon]

oof

[cinder bolt]

This is so me when I ruin the fun for everyone by using exploits in public worlds!

[severe monolith]

And the thing is I was actually in a invite only world with my friends

[unreal verge]

That's too confusing for me currently

[cinder bolt]

Same

[severe monolith]

How hard is it for vrchat to get rid of these Rippers

[cinder bolt]

Unless they had the world ID somehow, they couldn't force join

[unreal verge]

Simple put: impossible

Piracy never can be stopped

[cinder bolt]

There will always be a way if there's a want.

[cold talon]

One sec, calculating

[cinder bolt]

If someone's dedicated enough

[unreal verge]

The pirates will always find a loophole

[cinder bolt]

It's a part of vrc

[cold talon]

9.89/10 on the ribber scale

[cinder bolt]

It sucks, but so much people do it

But they did get rid of the most popular way of ripping so it's a start

[severe monolith]

Now they just need to take care of the rest of it because this is getting ridiculous A friend of mine that gets rid of these boxes that the Rippers are using he ended up getting rid of 200 box that are Ripper boxes

And he ends up getting rid of another 200 Ripper tags

[cinder bolt]

What are ripper boxes bruh

[severe monolith]

Ripper boxes are little transmitters that left the Rippers no when the avatar is ready to be ripped when the avatar is almost download it for the Ripper and then when the Avatar is fully downloaded to where you can't get it back

And the boxes change colors from green to Red to Black

[unreal verge]

[cold talon]

you go in a box and get ripped

[cinder bolt]

???

[cold talon]

[cinder bolt]

I used to know like 5 vrc gang dudes, none of them ever talked about that

used to.

[severe monolith]

And what the Rippers do is they hop into a avatar that is filled with a virus they walk through your avatar and it installs a box

[cinder bolt]

No?

[severe monolith]

So then what that box does is it transmits a signal letting the Rippers know

[cold talon]

you do know, avatars are downloaded on world join right? they are on the pc the moment you can see them

[wicked briar]

so virus on pc

[cinder bolt]

Don't know how that works

[cold talon]

virus? where

[delicate pasture]

I was gonna say, that seems kinda farfetched

[severe monolith]

The viruses in your avatar when the Ripper who wants that out of her walks fruit it works like covid

[cinder bolt]

Dude, ripping isn't the act of going into your avatar. It's them downloading your avatar for their own use.

[unreal verge]

That's not how stuff works

[cinder bolt]

Unless you find a way to execute a file the second the files are put into unity it won't work lmao

[unreal verge]

Ripping is a process totally invisible to you

[cinder bolt]

Yeah

Lmao what if they're talking about being force cloned

[severe monolith]

Then why do these rippers keep going after me and my friends avatars

[unreal verge]

This sounds more like weird avatar animations

[wicked briar]

idk just use poop avatar

[cold talon]

sounds like someone is trolling you

[wicked briar]

never been ripped before

cause i just use trash avatar

[cinder bolt]

Yeah dude you're being trolled.

There's no way to detect avatar ripping

[wicked briar]

why would they want a avatar that's literally y bot but scuffed

[cold talon]

you can detect it when you see someone using your avatar

[cinder bolt]

True

[severe monolith]

For my custom avatars I paid good money for them and they should be getting ripped

[cinder bolt]

Should not* be

May wanna edit that.

[cold talon]

i kinda wanna see these avatars

[cinder bolt]

Also, the best way to prevent against ripping is to only use the avatar around people you trust.

[cold talon]

that totalled up end up costing whopping 4k

[unreal verge]

But can you trust them for sure?

[cold talon]

you sure cannot trust me

[cinder bolt]

Amogus

[velvet tinsel]

you paid 4 grand for avatar whwat

wwhwhwaat

wwww

[cold talon]

now hand over your avatar

[cinder bolt]

My friend got a custom furry avatar for like 200 max

[wicked briar]

Wth

[cinder bolt]

That's with a ton of toggles

[unreal verge]

Sure, pick it up in my avatar world

[cinder bolt]

I tak e

[cold talon]

O-oh

[fossil idol]

[cinder bolt]

:)))) avavtra

[severe monolith]

My one Avatar is a hobdog straight from the Creator himself

[velvet tinsel]

if its done from a scratch and u got all rights thats reasonable amount

not much actually

[cinder bolt]

Ye

[fossil idol]

200 bux for a full from scratch avatar is cheap damn

[wicked briar]

200 as in like

[cinder bolt]

Idk, i don't spend my life on vrc

[wicked briar]

actually 200$

[fossil idol]

Yeah thats cheap for a full made avatar from scratch

[cinder bolt]

I meant like, under 200

I don't know the exact amount

[wicked briar]

oh ok

[fossil idol]

Im thinking of commissioning an anime styled avatar, Im pretty sure it’ll be way over 300

[velvet tinsel]

remember that you can get top tier for 50 bucks

[fossil idol]

Plus a 2D version and a reference sheet

[velvet tinsel]

buy hairstyle for 4 bucks and its a new character

[fossil idol]

Ive done some lookin around

Hairstyles and all that no ty they aint what Im looking for

[velvet tinsel]

i got myself a bunny as avatar and i like

even though anyone can just buy it

but then i just reach out to other bunnies

[cold talon]

really depends what you want, and what the avatar will have on it, if its a full ready to upload with a lot of toggles and shizz than yeah, its gonna be expensive

[velvet tinsel]

if i find any roaming around ofc

[fossil idol]

Idk if you’ve seen the avatars, but something similar to the Meru avatars people have recently been using, just male and human

[severe monolith]

I got a regulus and it's sad that it had a bunch of Bones already put into it and it had none it didn't even have a substance file

[cold talon]

im the proud owner of "i spent 0$ on vrc avatars" since i make my shitty avatars from scratch

[fossil idol]

And I want some different outfits, elf ears on/off, change hair and eye color etc

I tried the scratch stuff, nah. My hands are not for that

[cinder bolt]

I've spent $0 because I just ask my friends to give me stuff they found B))))

Lma9

[velvet tinsel]

people get banned for uploading whatever

[fossil idol]

Yeh, but I want something that people cant just find in a world or clone

[velvet tinsel]

lma934929429 o

so just watch out

because if u dont know where it came from exactly you might get into trouble later o

[fossil idol]

Thats why ya dont upload without research

[cold talon]

i mean, random mmd websites most likely

[fossil idol]

If its MMD you should run the other way

[unreal verge]

I'm a small hobkin

[velvet tinsel]

oh yes i finally i get trusted, after 5 thousands hours ! - hey buddy remember that avatar u got for free ? Its stolen. ACCUNTUS DELETUS

basically

[fossil idol]

Yup

[cinder bolt]

I only use public avatars from worlds .w.

[unreal verge]

Also if anyone would ever rip my avatars, i wish them a lot of fun with fixing the 30+ shaders :)

[fossil idol]

Im not gonna get into it, but how does ripping exactly work?

[cinder bolt]

And also removing and re adding every dynamic bone in the effing model

[fossil idol]

They just find your avatar and steal the file?

[unreal verge]

Won't be disclosed here

[cold talon]

man, i need more determination, cant find the power to bring shit into unity and configure it, all the energy i had in blender just vanishes the moment its in unity

[fossil idol]

Oh well, Just curious for protection against it

[cinder bolt]

There ain't any

[cold talon]

oh man, its a long story

[unreal verge]

But i can say that shaders break during that process

[fossil idol]

Thats when you make a milkshake, hop into your Avatar creating Voice chat buddies and have a good time drinking and chatting while fixing in unity

[cinder bolt]

me seeing an avatar with all free poiyomi shaders and vrc mobile shaders on pc.

hmmmmmm

[fossil idol]

Ye, but all they need is new textures and shaders so it would be annoying

[unreal verge]

A lot of my shaders you can't just download

[fossil idol]

I wish they fix the ripping so its near impossible

[cinder bolt]

that's protection, make sure it ONLY works with the most unknown shaders ever.

[fossil idol]

Me want personal avatars

[fossil idol]

Genius. Commission a shader

[cinder bolt]

Yessurrrrrrr

[cold talon]

first you have to [Redacted] than after that you open [Redacted] where [Redacted] is [Redacted] than find the [Redacted] you want and use [Redacted] to [Redacted] the model, when you have the model you than [Redacted] it in [Redacted] than boom you replace the broken shaders in [Redacted] and there you go, totally your own custom model

[unreal verge]

I converted them myself from another language. First they would now where to get the original shaders and second they would need to know how to convert them into a language unity understands

[fossil idol]

That just sounds sad… commission a model for dirtbags to steal

To be fair VRC should have added Cyberpunk/Final Fantasy style Avatar creation

You make the whole avatar when you first login, finished and downloaded to your user as a personal avatar, Have VRC Stores that sell clothes and outfits

Bam! You get cash for outfits, and people get own avatars

[cold talon]

speaking of which, i heard quite a while ago that there is a way to get the shades too, but cannot confirm so its just a rumour.

[cold talon]

you mean tafi?

[fossil idol]

Tafi?

And VRC gotta fix ripping or I gotta stick to private worlds

[unreal verge]

You not even safe in privates

[fossil idol]

Not even private with friends? Really

[unreal verge]

No

[cinder bolt]

there are mods that can see privately uploaded avatars lol

[cold talon]

yeah, an avatar creator integrated into vrc where you can buy clothes and accessories, add em to a base and than upload straight into vrc

[cinder bolt]

so just make sure your avatar name is something like jdbcsu&&^jw

so nobody can find it

[fossil idol]

Interesting, but not sure if the models look good

[cold talon]

they dont

[fossil idol]

Then crappers

VRC just gotta, ban mods mate

[cold talon]

at least not my style, they look like fortnite characters tbh

[fossil idol]

Like how GTA doesnt allow VPNs

[cinder bolt]

wish they could

[unreal verge]

GTA is full of hackers lmao

[cold talon]

mods are banned in vrc

[cinder bolt]

lol yeah

[fossil idol]

Idk if you know of it, but a not so good game called KurtzPel has really good Anime style avatar creation. If only you could download the model after making it, it would be great

[fossil idol]

Yet still lots use em

[cinder bolt]

yes

because its so easy to get around lol

[fossil idol]

Is there not a plugin or something VRC can use, like a detection in software edits

[cinder bolt]

idk

[fossil idol]

If something is trying to change the game, blocked

Like a firewall

[cold talon]

stuff is running on the local machine, so the user can always edit the code, only safe space is on the server side where stuff cannot be tampered with

[fossil idol]

Well make the whole thing safe

[cold talon]

and they already have stuff in place that will automagically ban you if your client tries to do illegal actions

[fossil idol]

Only thing that should be allowed is Upload avatar, Upload world, Upload images

What else do you need allowed?

[cold talon]

its just that whatever these modified clients use are also sockets used by normal clients, so cant distinguish between them

[cold talon]

that would mean you cannot see others avatars

[fossil idol]

Oh well

But if they find those softwares by searching online. They can get rid of em

[cinder bolt]

..thats why you dont find them online

theyre traded in private like pokemon LOL

[unreal verge]

Not true

[fossil idol]

Really? They’re all on google

Literally so many youtube tutorials

[cinder bolt]

well, most are private

mods at least

from what ive seen

[fossil idol]

Ive seen most be not private, so should be easy to get rid of

[unreal verge]

They already tried

[cold talon]

thats not how that works, you can find them, but how would they block it? even if you have the server request the client to send its entire code, modded ones could just spoof it and appear perfectly normal

[unreal verge]

Result was a massive war in this server

That lasted 3 days until everything got reverted

[fossil idol]

Hm…. Who cares if a war comes. What they should allow from those mods, is avatar search for public ones. The rest just get rid of except the parts that dont damage other ppl, like a player tab list in a world

But man just Get rid of rippers

[cold talon]

but ye, mods are actively seeking out and logging clients that make non standard calls, than we get the so called ban waves

[cinder bolt]

yeah

but just like cod and gta, you can never get them all out

[unreal verge]

I recommend to read this #announcements message

[fossil idol]

Make VRC cost cash first thats one thing to fix.

Get rid of the youngest audience

[unreal verge]

That's how you kill the game

[cinder bolt]

yeah.

im not paying $10 to talk to people in vr at that point id actually go outside

[cold talon]

rip 50% of the playerbase

[cinder bolt]

LOL

[unreal verge]

Making this game paid would do 1000x more damage than mods could do

[cold talon]

and even if they wanted to make it paid, they cant

[pliant epoch]

I can only see those who already have VR paying for this game possibly.

[unreal verge]

Most still won't

[fossil idol]

Id actually pay for VRC ngl

I mean, A lot of people bought VRC+ me included, Its no big surprise those same people would buy the game

[cinder bolt]

just because you will doesnt mean others will

[velvet tinsel]

if you upload anything to the internet it will get stolen sooner or later deal with it to be honest

[fossil idol]

And it gets rid of the young audience whos less than 13 and cant buy games

[cinder bolt]

most people only get it because its free and easy to socialize

[fossil idol]

Free Trial 3 Months

[unreal verge]

They already got a $300 headset. Their parents sure have the money to pay for a game

[fossil idol]

They’ll probably read about the game first

[velvet tinsel]

imagine the butthurt people who lose their 10$ accounts after gtting banned

i dont want to hear that in general xd

[unreal verge]

If you've avatars you already lose a lot

[velvet tinsel]

why

[cinder bolt]

no they wont lol, if u give an 11 year old a headset you already failed as a parent and probably dont watch what your kids do

at least imo

[fossil idol]

I mean if they’re banned. great

[unreal verge]

Cause all the work/money suddenly can't be used by you anymore

[velvet tinsel]

you need to grind for 2 weeks

or if you friend your friends again 1 week

[unreal verge]

For uploading rights?

[velvet tinsel]

then you just upload that shit again so not really an issue

[unreal verge]

I got upload rights within less than 48 hours lol

[cinder bolt]

same

[velvet tinsel]

so why u say this

[velvet tinsel]

this

[unreal verge]

Cause you'll get banned for ban evasion again

[cinder bolt]

because if you lose the files to an avatar on your old account, you've lost it permanantly

[velvet tinsel]

they dont have a system xd

from what i know

but well thats up to them

[cinder bolt]

if you do something bad enough you do get hardware banned.

[fossil idol]

Bruh

Cant they hardware ban the creators of the softwares.

Makes it less fun for em to keep goin

[unreal verge]

They already tried

All got unbanned after 3 days again

Cause of that massive backlash

[fossil idol]

What?

Who cares about backlash

They’re still doing something illegal

[cinder bolt]

a ton of innocents got hit in the ban wave

[unreal verge]

You do care if it extremely affects your community and possibly money

[fossil idol]

Ye the innocent ones sure, but the ones who Create the plugins

Find the spesific users who create these softwares, software ban them and bam

[cinder bolt]

you're looking at this from a moral standpoint. not an "i want money" standpoint

[unreal verge]

Well than you won't be able to use that server again lmao

[fossil idol]

Oh they can get money other ways

[unreal verge]

Or any other vrc related server

You didn't experience the hell that went through the whole community. Literally everywhere was a war

Not just this server but other communities too

[fossil idol]

Who cares about a war, mute em

[unreal verge]

You can't at this scale

[cinder bolt]

then people will leave. less money

also that

[unreal verge]

You don't understand about the scale I'm talking about

[fossil idol]

You can. Look at the DC Snyder Movie war that went on

They’re raging and being ignored

[unreal verge]

The only way to mute them would have been a full server lock down permanently

[fossil idol]

What are they even mad for? Wooow, cant use avatar search anymore

Add the good parts to the actual game.

Get rid of the parts nobody needs, Ripping

[unreal verge]

It was hundreds of people that came here in short period of times

[cinder bolt]

im gonna say this. people who make these mods are smart. they can find work arounds, like hardware spoofs. they can do almost anything because this IS a unity game. its not as easy as just "finding them"

[unreal verge]

No mod can mute every single one

[fossil idol]

They can disable people from joinin

VRC+ Discord server

[unreal verge]

Well at that point it would be a full server lock down

Lock all channels etc

[cinder bolt]

full server lockdown but just say it isnt LOL

[fossil idol]

Who would pay vrc+ to just spam

[cinder bolt]

some people.

[fossil idol]

Well great, they’ll make money

[cinder bolt]

you doubt how dumb people can be

[fossil idol]

Dumb? Its genius

[unreal verge]

The time the ban wave of Modders happened it was the only topic in the whole community

On all of vrc

[fossil idol]

And then it goes away

Everything fades eventually

[unreal verge]

It went 24/7 for 3 days

[fossil idol]

The knuckles went on for weeks. Come on man

[unreal verge]

Well whatever, the massive backlash caused them to revert all bans.

[fossil idol]

Well ignore backlash, go through it

[cinder bolt]

if you want money, you listen to the community

especially on a game like this.

[fossil idol]

If you want money, hire the modders

[cold talon]

also, yeah, their goal is not to ban everyone that use any sort of modded client, if a user gets reported for using a modded client they will get clapped, or if the client they are using touches vrc+ stuff

[fossil idol]

I dont care which part of the modding they keep if they hire those modders

Just get rid of ripping from personal stuff

How big percent of the VRC community would be raging over no more ripping?

[cinder bolt]

you cant stop ripping

[unreal verge]

^

[cinder bolt]

theres always a way

[fossil idol]

There has to be a bloody way fam

[unreal verge]

No

[cinder bolt]

if people can pirate literally the biggest movies ever, there are people that can pirate avatars.

when theres motivation theres a way, its literally that simple

[unreal verge]

Look at movie piracy etc. These business have infinite resources and even they weren't able to stop it. Piracy is booming heavily.

[fossil idol]

I mean the movies arent really pirated, they’re taken from the streaming service releases or from cinema recordin

[cinder bolt]

if people have a demand, there's a supply.

[radiant crystal]

You forget that sometimes cinema workers themselves release the raw files.

[fossil idol]

What kind of big demand is there on stealing peoples avatar work

[cold talon]

they can keep on adding security but there are always ways to bypass it if the user has access to the code

[cinder bolt]

but how do they download it off that service.

[cold talon]

people will reverse engineer bloody everything, dont care if its obfuscated

[unreal verge]

Ways to stop ripping in VRChat:

• make it a stadia exclusive
• remove all user content

[fossil idol]

Obs record your screen, watch it on netflix release or use VPN to other streaming services

[radiant crystal]

How about straight up killing vrchat as a whole? It'd be faster :V

[fossil idol]

Maybe VRC should have a Creators Club instead then

[cinder bolt]

netflix detects recording devices and makes the screen black lol, its not that simple

[unreal verge]

?

[cinder bolt]

what im saying is, people go to insane lengths for anything

[cold talon]

a what now?

[radiant crystal]

bethesda stuff

[unreal verge]

Talking about that. In my browser that doesn't happen

[radiant crystal]

pay $ for ingame tokens

to buy dlc'

[fossil idol]

Remove user content, Creators show a world they’ve made or avatar, they get into Creators club, they get to make official avatars and worlds for the game yeh

[cold talon]

modded browser

[unreal verge]

Not even. It's just Firefox

[fossil idol]

No more user content

[cinder bolt]

that defeats the point of vrc.

[fossil idol]

VR Chatting is the point

Have fun, chat, drink, play games

People who wanna create stuff, get into Creator club.

[scenic echo]

Are they about to start charging for VRC?

[unreal verge]

No

[cinder bolt]

no

[radiant crystal]

no lol

[fossil idol]

Charging? Nah

[cold talon]

yeah right, i know you have modded everything, seen your modded discord, modded vrc website css, modded discord on android, heck you probably even modded your windows

[cinder bolt]

modded linux

hmmmmm

[fossil idol]

Why do people have to mod everything

[cold talon]

they literally cannot

[unreal verge]

Modded windows 🤔

[cold talon]

right, my bad, modded linux than

[unreal verge]

Aka I've animated desktop background?

[cinder bolt]

im not saying they should, but why? im curious

[cold talon]

SEE! modded!

[unreal verge]

You installed vrchat on your windows. Modded smh

[cold talon]

since there is copyrighted content on the platform, they cannot charge for it

[cinder bolt]

modding my browser!! opens inspect element

oh that makes sense

[cold talon]

[cinder bolt]

i have made your name "poopy head" how does this make you feel?

[unreal verge]

Oh fuck, that's really bad. Call the police 🚨

[cinder bolt]

D:

[unreal verge]

He needs to get put down for his terrorism

[cinder bolt]

im sorry! i didmt mean it!

:<

[unreal verge]

I'm using adblock in browser

[umbral reef]

Cant they just say they sell the base game and all additive content is not from them? Like how imgur, youtube and other websites work?

[cold talon]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-y-jerry-tom-and-jerry-meme-sad-cry-gif-18054267

[cinder bolt]

imigur and youtube are free with ads

you pay a subscription for a better experience

[unreal verge]

Imagine

Oh did i mention my modded YouTube app?

No ads ez

[cold talon]

This man has to be stopped

[cinder bolt]

i paid for a youtube client >:)))) i have no ads now

[cold talon]

he is robbing thousands of youtube creators of their revenue

[broken plover]

not using everything vanilla

[unreal verge]

Uh no what about all the youtubers merch i bought

[cinder bolt]

morgz

[umbral reef]

Also got a modded bank account?

[unreal verge]

Ew

[cold talon]

hmm, i suppose that balances out

[unreal verge]

Mmh would be nice. Infinite money

[cold talon]

but actually im interested, what did you use for the discord apk

[cinder bolt]

12 dabloons

i have 5 buckeroonis

[cold talon]

n-not that i would want to do it too or anything, j-just curios

[unreal verge]

Aliucord

[cinder bolt]

same ahahahaha

oh

[cold talon]

audi

[cinder bolt]

gtg

i have to do work now :(((

[unreal verge]

Ok bye bye

[cinder bolt]

hope u have a great day :) now baibai

[cold talon]

[unreal verge]

But actually, i think VRChat is like the only thing i actually don't mod xd

[cold talon]

cough yeah same cough

[unreal verge]

Nah i can actually send screen of installation xd
Clean

[cold talon]

rec room on the other hand tho...

[unreal verge]

Huh

What's with that

I don't have it installed

[cold talon]

dw about it

[unreal verge]

I should do something in unity now

[cold talon]

i should do something in blender

but no time, gotta switch windows in safe mode

[unreal verge]

:o

[cold talon]

got a program needed for classes that apparently can only be installed in safe mode

[unreal verge]

Sus

[vocal shard]

[cold talon]

mornen wolfy

[unreal verge]

rgb

[vocal shard]

🌄

[cold talon]

welp, initiating procedure, see you on the other side cooper

[radiant crystal]

Soon we shall see Bahka reinstalling his OS because he done goof'd

[vocal shard]

[unreal verge]

With that sus software i would probably want to wipe everything after

[vocal shard]

dancing

[cold talon]

safe mode works on only one monitor

[cinder bolt]

:,c

[cold talon]

yes. im so used to 2 monitors im psychically unable to operate a single screen computer

my multitasking ability just turns off

you know what, heck you, just for that ill get a third monitor

increase my power

also you need to remove 2 F for it to be a proper hex value

its not fat, its just big boned

[unreal verge]

[cold talon]

also off to #general-media you go

you are clogging up general

[unreal verge]

People really bitching about someone having more than one monitor

[cold talon]

i like how people who never talk here come out from under their rocks when i mentioned i got 2 monitors

what is this new found power

[vocal shard]

[cold talon]

wonder what the guy even meant by that, but oh well

[vocal shard]

Has one one here seen some good vrchat horror maps recently for quest 2

anyone down to chill on vr chat

[cold talon]

wonder if the devouring is quest compatible

if it is, than there you have it, go play that, seems pretty noice from what i have seen

[vocal shard]

??\

[vocal shard]

lol the pfp

???

[delicate locust]

Hey anyone know the requirements me play vrc on pc

[cold talon]

CPU: Intel® i5-4590 / AMD FX 8350 equivalent or greater.
CPU SPEED: Info.
RAM: 4 GB.
OS: Windows 7, Windows 8.1, Windows 10.
VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce® GTX 970 / AMD Radeon™ R9 290 equivalent or greater.

yeah, they say 970, but seems quite under-powered considering the user content, it will run, but not a great experience

got 30fps on my 1080

[odd blaze]

Wouldnt recommend anything but min 16gb ram

[nocturne bluff]

crank those safety settings to the roof baby

[cold talon]

oh yeah didnt even notice they say 4gb ram, yike

[nocturne bluff]

yeah minimum poor is good for general use

[broken plover]

imagine not optimizing your avatars to atleast medium but usually good

[nocturne bluff]

<20mb avi gang wya

[broken plover]

My avatars used to be 180MB+ before I found out about crunch compression lol

[nocturne bluff]

i used to make very poors around like 80mb til i discovered atlasing and masking

[odd blaze]

<10mb avatars but im usually 10~ something too many bones, 'poor'

[nocturne bluff]

now i rock a 1 material slot 1 mesh <10 mb

thats always the worst

super optimised but you have 1 too many bones so youre poor now gg

[open crescent]

What if I told you... I got 3

[open crescent]

It's worth it.
At work I only have two and it sucks to be missing one monitor

[cold talon]

i got 3 now

[unreal verge]

I also only have one

[nocturne bluff]

5 monitor gang, step those numbers up buddy

[open crescent]

Pog

[cinder echo]

Wait how do i add more ram usage to vrchat because it only used 15 procent

[open crescent]

Vrchat's ram usage depends on avatars and worlds loaded basically

[cold talon]

https://downloadmoreram.com/

[cinder bolt]

LMAO

[open crescent]

Lmao

[waxen quail]

hi

[pure moon]

Might wanna check out pc optimizer pro

[fossil idol]

[livid sable]

skittle-chan is in here?

[bronze bay]

Can anyone suggest any good games in VRChat? I am open all suggestions, but I am mostly looking for a game with action.

[sharp saddle]

Do you like... horror?

[bronze bay]

A bit spooky is OK for me, but horror is too much for me.

[sharp saddle]

What about survival spoop?

[bronze bay]

I don't know. I have never heard about it before.

[sharp saddle]

Haunted Asylum. Try it.

[hearty pine]

Hey guys, ever heard of vrchat?

[vocal shard]

No, what is it?

[hearty pine]

a game

[fossil idol]

Its dead innit

[hearty pine]

wanna play it
It might be lmao

[fossil idol]

Its such a cozy game

[hearty pine]

But it doesn't stop anyone from playing it, now does it

[fossil idol]

Chill with the homies under the night sky and watch the r34

[vocal shard]

Huh, I'm looking to get into virtual reality simulations, would this VR Chat be something safe to test out?

[fossil idol]

Is your brain there

[hearty pine]

This game is not safe and never will be'

Lol

[vocal shard]

No, that melted out when I got my job

[fossil idol]

Ah

[hearty pine]

Can't relate

[fossil idol]

Kinju wear clothes

[hearty pine]

Hahaha
Will do sir

[fossil idol]

Indeed

Just find a png tuxedo on google and put it ontop

[vocal shard]

Huh... vr chat is just a bunch of furries isn't it

[fossil idol]

Nope

[vocal shard]

XD

[fossil idol]

Im not a furry

[hearty pine]

Only a quarter of it

thats all

[fossil idol]

Hoover damn

Now thats a mom

[graceful pewter]

everybody else who's not a furry is an anime person or a video game character

[hearty pine]

Huh-
And true

[graceful pewter]

and I suppose technically there are cases when you're all three of those if you're a Lucario

[fossil idol]

Im an eboy tho

[hearty pine]

I hated it when nekos called me out for being a furry- 😂

[graceful pewter]

do I suppose if I was being semantic there is a couple of different categories of anime people MMD kitbash eboy being one of them

[fossil idol]

loli points up at furry woman Furry!

[graceful pewter]

yes that is kind of silly of them

[fossil idol]

Furry then procceds to pull out a gun, we never saw the lolicon ever again

[hearty pine]

I know lol

And bruuhhhh

[fossil idol]

Except the loli was part of the fbi and the furry was on the run as wanted criminal

[hearty pine]

Here go dat boi

Anyway, anyone wanna play murder or something? o.o

[fossil idol]

Just join publics

[hearty pine]

Shhhhh-

[fossil idol]

Ppl on the discord are offline bois who arent playin at the moment mostly innit

[hearty pine]

shhhhh-

[fossil idol]

ShHhhHh

[hearty pine]

Hahaha

[fossil idol]

Frickin animal

[hearty pine]

:3

[fossil idol]

Scary

[hearty pine]

Spoopy

[fossil idol]

Yos

[hearty pine]

[old oracle]

this game is my life

[mossy copper]

not healthy

[twin fractal]

living is unhealthy

[narrow crater]

What is the actual scariest vrchat map, no pussy shit

[sharp saddle]

Um... Devouring, I guess?

[cinder bolt]

I finally won a game of vr pool :)

[graceful pewter]

cool

[vocal shard]

POOL? FUKIN, I'm the best at that game. Ha

[twin fractal]

yeaAA I'm pretty DECENT myself

[hearty pine]

OH my gooooddDD
Yes! Ha

[modest wren]

Hi

How are ya'll doin today

[lofty flare]

Avocado

[modest wren]

That's nice

[lofty flare]

Thank you 💅

[modest wren]

Oh

No gif's

[lofty flare]

Oop

[modest wren]

Epic fail gaming

[vocal shard]

Wot

[cloud summit]

There you go, you did it again ha.

[vocal shard]

did whit again..

[cloud summit]

Ha

[vocal shard]

is it bad?.. I know I keep doin it.

[hearty pine]

||drunknuala||

[vocal shard]

It's not that scary tbh

[sharp saddle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vocal shard]

nuuu, not tonightttt

[cloud summit]

No not all all.

[flat kiln]

hey whats up everyone, Im kind lookin for some adults to hang out with, every wheer I go in VR chat all I see is kids XD

[hearty pine]

^

It’s gonna be an awful Christmas.. lmao

[cloud summit]

Ah yes.

Questmas 2.

[rancid jewel]

oh god

get into the invite+ shelter!

[graceful pewter]

I already don't visit public instances because folks commenting negatively about my fursona avatar

[late heath]

Mega normie popular worlds like Black Cat and Summer Solitude tend to be like that. Furry worlds not so much.
Also, you could try hanging out in some of the newer worlds and community labs.
Once you have a friend group you can go worldhopping with it becomes a bit easier to find cool people.

[late heath]

Is this becoming a regular thing? I've had randoms tell me to take a furry avatar off, kind of a depressing subculture happening there.

[graceful pewter]

well it's been awhile since I've been in public incidences but I had it happened relatively often

mostly from pretty young sounding folks

[noble depot]

not really a VRChat specific thing unfortunately, usually from people who get their idea of what a furry is from other people who got their idea of what a furry is from etc etc

good 'ol hatred train of misinformation

[late heath]

Yeah just internet culture bleeding into everything.
That being said, it could be a lot worse and furries seem to have tough skin around it anyway.
End of the day, there's always just blocking.

[quartz fjord]

I have a pair of favorite furries. They go to NHL hockey games and sit by the benches or the penalty boxes. Pretty funny stuff.

[graceful pewter]

yeah the block button is quite handy

[noble depot]

makes'em go poofe

[late heath]

If you block someone, can they still see/hear you?

I don't know if they changed that

[rancid jewel]

you do

[turbid dragon]

Cheese

[open crescent]

What'cha talkin'bout willis

What is a parent function

[open crescent]

I don't think so

[odd silo]

If u wanna be friends dm me

[open crescent]

Don't spam pls

[verbal scaffold]

Hey guys I have a problem with the resolution for this game, this is probably a very common question but how does one change their resolution? I've looked through the FAQ and I googled it but I can't get a definitive answer as to how to change to 1920x1080. please can someone help because I am sick of playing this game with borders like the Justice league snyder cut and it looking like a mobile game

typing here because general 1 is in a different conversation

[noble depot]

You can set the game to a specific resolution in the launch options: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/launch-options#resolution-and-screen-choice
i.e -screen-width 1920 -screen-height 1080 for a 1920x1080 screen

[verbal scaffold]

thank you, I can't believe I looked over this

[noble depot]

yw! c:

[rough sluice]

did vrc ban vpns? I'm using nord and it says theres a server error when I try to log in but when I disconnect from the vpn vrc is fine

[noble depot]

VPNs are fine, make sure CyberSec is disabled?

otherwise, try some different connection locations (don't switch locations super fast though) o:

[rough sluice]

ooo I'll try that ty

it worked! tysm Zuvali!!

[noble depot]

yw! c:

[stable ingot]

You know what baffles me? VRChat not locking the cursor inside itself so that you don't obscure the window.

[sharp saddle]

Whenever I see an avatar with a book, I instantly think of the "VRChat Bible" avatar that some people use in public Pugs.

[tribal grotto]

someone want to meet up in vrchat? im new and a little shy

[slate niche]

Dudes why did my avatar pop his dik outta nowhere what

[regal furnace]

idk, you tell us

[slate niche]

Well I choose an avatar of a anime dude and I was looking at the mirror and boom suddenly his dick was out

I’m new so I don’t know about stuff

[regal furnace]

you probably enabled a gesture by accident

depending on how your hands are on the controller, a different gesture gets enabled

[slate niche]

Uh huh how do I know which avatars do this and which don’t

[regal furnace]

trial and error

equip, test, repeat

preferrably in a private instance

[slate niche]

Oh man I’m playing on desktop what buttons trigger these?

What are the most common binds ?

[agile needle]

Shift+F1~F5 activates hand gestures on desktop

[slate niche]

Kk

Thanks for the info

[agile needle]

RShift for gestures on the right hand

[slate niche]

Oh yeah another question how do I join like specific worlds

[turbid dragon]

Search for them

[slate niche]

But there’s like thousands of em

[turbid dragon]

What exactly are you looking for?

[vocal shard]

fukin Scotland. Ha

[turbid dragon]

[vocal shard]

[cloud summit]

Ha.

[vocal shard]

nuuuu...

[cloud summit]

Yusssss

[heavy hazel]

DISBANNED

[vocal shard]

whit

[turbid dragon]

Ok

[heavy hazel]

disbaneed meeeeea

sdsadasdasdasfdasd
ASdasdasdsadasdfasfsafasfASfasfasdfasdfdsfgsddsgsdfgdfgdfgdf

[vocal shard]

?

[turbid dragon]

Uh

Im too tired to read random letters

[vocal shard]

Same tbh

i swear I'm fukin seein things. ha

[regal furnace]

probably a kid

[turbid dragon]

Tbh same

[vocal shard]

probably. Didn't lock m in the basement correctly.

[turbid dragon]

Lmao

[regal furnace]

ye, sounds about right

[turbid dragon]

I should, but i cannot

[vocal shard]

i got fukin work. no.

later yes

[hearty pine]

||drunknuala||
Lmao

x3

[vocal shard]

not todayyyyyyyyy, no.

I'm tryin not to fukin drinkkkk. I'm also avoidin vrc for noe because the people on their want me to drinkkkk.

[hearty pine]

Lmao

The game makes me want to 😎 lmao

[vocal shard]

SAME that's why I'm avoiding it for now.

[hearty pine]

Lol

Until the weeeekennnnnd

[vocal shard]

still no. I don't need to get yelled at again.

[hearty pine]

Oop-
I might lmao
Because fun 😈

[vocal shard]

don't tempt meeeeee

people say I'm too fukin young to be gettin drunk.

I don't want that.

[hearty pine]

😈

[fossil idol]

Weird ppl

[hearty pine]

:3

[fossil idol]

;3 fuken creepo

[hearty pine]

:3

[fossil idol]

;3

[hearty pine]

;3

[fossil idol]

>;3

[hearty pine]

Uh oh

[fossil idol]

Wot

[hearty pine]

Just you

I’m scared of thou

[radiant crystal]

🗞️

[fossil idol]

Im the one whos copyin fam

[radiant crystal]

🗞️

You two get baps then

[hearty pine]

-w-

[fossil idol]

Ty for being a cultured cat of equality

[fossil idol]

Fricking unfair devil

[hearty pine]

What have I done? Lmao

[fossil idol]

[hearty pine]

Yes

[fossil idol]

Smh

[solemn bridge]

Odd question. How easy is it to make model worlds?

Cause i collected too many avatars but i got them all from asking to copy people.

So idk where they're all from

[twin fractal]

pretty easy. would take you maybe a day of watching YouTube tutorials and messing around in unity

[solemn bridge]

I see!

[oblique niche]

[graceful pewter]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2507157026 a pretty decent new Builder guide I found

[delicate barn]

Hi

[fossil idol]

[nocturne bluff]

howdyhowdyhowdy

[somber cradle]

hello guys

[hearty pine]

Hoi

[warped estuary]

hellooo

[noble depot]

hi! c:

[sharp saddle]

Hello there.

[warped estuary]

how you all doing this fine evening👀

[vocal shard]

Sick :/

[warped estuary]

oh man hope u feel better

[vocal shard]

Is there a way someone could add Lithuania to the international?

The category >^<

To add Lithuania?

Lithuania the country🇱🇹

For the language? Sorry if I type something wrong I’m not that good in English

[noble depot]

I think they mean to the international category in the Discord lol, i.e the language channels

either that or regional instances in Lithuania

[hearty pine]

ùwú

[vocal shard]

[cinder bolt]

I can't believe people take me seriously when I talk about American history cause I sound like a femboy

[remote raptor]

if any weirdos wanna help me with some goofy commercial that would be greatly appreciated lol pls dm me plsss been working on this for like 10 years lol tryna get this over with

[tall willow]

<.<

[fresh garnet]

7.7

[grand sun]

<<

.>

[tall willow]

<.>

[wide apex]

^.^

0-0

;-;

[pseudo jewel]

the sole avatar i've worn for the past 3 years is suddenly got broke a few months back, did this happen to a lot of avatars?

it's head is just tilted a little to the right and a little up, but it's enough to make it disappointing to try to use anymore

[unreal verge]

Shouldn't have happened to any properly made avatar

[hearty pine]

Anyone wanna play this weekend?

[meager solstice]

Key words “properly made”

@unreal verge

[meager solstice]

Maybe contact the maker?

[unreal verge]

yeah i would assume thats some kind of weird rigging issue due to unusual stuff

[meager solstice]

I mean 3 years ago people were doing stuff like hip flips and shit lmao. Who knows how it is taped together

[violet folio]

found an mmd file for a character i want on deviant art. unsure how to get it into vr chat, but my account is pretty new so i cant upload avatar anyways, if i give the file to someone, can they upload it and give me their world name so i can use the avatar ? i am new to vr chat

[sharp saddle]

?upload

[shy spoke]

You must obtain at least "New User" Trust Rank in our Trust and Safety system in order to upload content. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.

As an aside, you must have a VRChat account to upload content. That means you can't use a Steam account, Oculus account, or Viveport account to upload content like worlds or avatars.

Source: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/frequently-asked-questions

[vocal shard]

hey guys, if you want to add me. here is the link to my VR Chat Profile https://vrchat.com/home/user/usr_e785c72a-836e-40b5-befa-5d5543145461

[hearty pine]

Anyone planning on playing Friday night?

[meager solstice]

Everyone plays on the weekend

[vocal shard]

Lol the odds I ran into you

[meager solstice]

I mean it was bound to happen

[hearty pine]

But the weekend people get fucked up.. 😈

[vocal shard]

Indeed! I do play everyday!

[meager solstice]

I don’t play every day…. But I do play at around 10pm-6am on my off days which always rotates

[wary solar]

Cool how lucky

[vocal shard]

I run into alot of people

[wary solar]

Have you run into a cloud ?

The only related thing to my vrchat name is Cloud

[vocal shard]

I can’t say I have!

[sharp saddle]

Ayo.

[vocal shard]

Hi

[cloud summit]

Hello.

[weary dome]

Hello. Does anyone know what “ online (1 of 2 )” means under Your status on discord when playing vrchat ?

[pliant epoch]

The first number(in this case 1) represents how many users are in that world. The second number (in this case 2) represents the capacity of that world.

[tawny pike]

Uhh I am trying to join my friend, they are blue status but it still says request invite, I restarted the game and my computer. Is there anything I can do? Or should I just wait?

They can't invite me either

Nvm we good 👍

[weary dome]

Ahh thank you

[surreal rampart]

So could anyone tell me the latency/fps of any gear you use like does connecting a controller subtract framerate? I don't do VR but was wondering about this.

[regal furnace]

so you want hand tracking without a vr headset?

[surreal rampart]

Probably yes.

[lucid vigil]

there will always be latency of controllers, just nature of the game tho its fairly minimal, i think on the old fist adding more devices could lower FPS as alot of computing was done on the PC, but things like HTC and Index do alot of computing on the device soooooooo mybe?

[regal furnace]

why tho?

[surreal rampart]

Is hand tracking better than the controller experience?

[regal furnace]

worse

[graceful pewter]

no buttons

[regal furnace]

you need an hmd emulator for that

[surreal rampart]

What would the controller fps be like?

[lucid vigil]

i would say worse, especially if you throw the index controllers into the mix

[regal furnace]

no buttons, crappy view

[surreal rampart]

What's an HMD emulator is that like visual in the scene?

[regal furnace]

just get a full vr set and have a nice time by not dealing with 50 different programs just to play a game

if you play vr mode, you will have to have at least 3 point tracking. without hmd but only hands you are missing the head

trust me, i tried cheaping out too

[surreal rampart]

I do Haar Cascade Classification and it does 16-24 fps. Virtual Tracking. Is that worse than with controllers?

[regal furnace]

normal controllers track with like 90+ hz

if you mean that

[surreal rampart]

In FPS with all what would it be?

[regal furnace]

depends on your system

someone with a 750ti will have like 15fps max, while someone with a 3090 can push even 144fps on the index

[surreal rampart]

Let's say 2.8 Ghz CPU base with 8-core 12 or 16 threads. GTX 1050.

[regal furnace]

vr is very gpu taxing, so better gpu = higher fps

[surreal rampart]

I can up the ghz.

Would it just be the same range of fps?

[regal furnace]

the cpu is not that important for vr. but the 1050 proba ly wont push vr at a reasonable framerate

[surreal rampart]

I saw that some games are in 17 fps.

[regal furnace]

in vr or pancake mode?

[surreal rampart]

I searched up on nvidia.

vr i think.

[regal furnace]

you should know if you played in vr or not

[surreal rampart]

it is they have no pancake.

straight nvidia.

[regal furnace]

you have a literal brick on your head when you play vr

[surreal rampart]

with a brick yes.

[regal furnace]

17fps on a 1050 sounds somewhat right

in vr

[surreal rampart]

I was just wondering if just the headset would be 17 fps.

[regal furnace]

its the gpu that cant do more

[surreal rampart]

Ok, so if all is connected headset and controllers and it's 17 fps on a game I'd think that the haar cascade on a low-stage training or something if it's already at its limit will be a little better to no difference.

The thing about virtual control is that you get to move around more. I guess it's suited more for AR.

Oh! I just remembered the classifier is running on the cpu.

Not the gpu so if possible... If the classifier ran on GPU you'd see a huge difference.

x4 times better.

Luis Felipe Zeni just switched the classifier from cpu 7-8 fps to gpu 28fps. 😂

[spice pine]

Paging Yahiko and Brotato

[vocal shard]

ñ

[twilit tusk]

I'm about to lose it working with Udon. I've had my code working in C# since day 2, but 2 week's later I'm still trying to get it working in Udon. All functions are arbitrary, no helpful documentation, and half of udon's stuff just doesn't seem to work

Do they really expect people to do vector maths in udon's graph editor?

Sorry I'm just venting at this point

[noble depot]

you could also use Udon#, like mentioned above? compiles C# into Udon
https://github.com/MerlinVR/UdonSharp

[tacit plank]

I wish they'd stop clearing "became friend" notifications the second they have been viewed just once

Also fuck your tutorial map. Just joining it will mess up your FBT and force your settings to change.
That's all I really dislike about VRC though. Wait, no, the output log is kind of poor now. How am I supposed to figure out what happened when it obfuscates information that I'd have if only my memory was better?

[earnest badge]

Why is there so much lore and stuff in the vrchat legends wiki and yet I’ve never seen any of that in the game really

So much talk of groups and roleplaying and stuff and yet all I see is a bunch of anime characters staring at mirrors lol

A year

[noble depot]

visit less popular worlds generally o:

[earnest badge]

Why is it because the popular ones get all of the more causal type play

[noble depot]

moreso that public instances of front-page worlds are usually gonna be hectic

i.e kids, crashers, etc

less popular worlds can be more relaxed and have more people that're willing to not scream at you talk lol

there's also the various #community-servers-old for RP groups and such

[earnest badge]

Tbh I don’t see many crashers anymore

Just a whole crap ton of anime lol

I’m fine with anime, just seeing it constantly gets kinda repetitive

[delicate pasture]

thats the vrchat experience for ya

[graceful pewter]

vrchat was always kind of anime

[earnest badge]

Oh

I always got the impression that the influx of anime was new