#vrchat-general-2
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Whenever you walk away from the middle of your playspace, the controllers drift a bit, and also it needed to be recalibrated almost every time I launched
base stations + reverb g2 headset + two index controllers = more expensive then just getting the valve index full kit, i assume.
yea lol prob
I got my stuff in an intresting way lets just say that so it ended up being cheaper than an index
lucky for you
Instead, I might just wait for HP to come up with their alternative those.
My favorite controllers are still the oculus CV1. Please just make those open source >~<
Yea you might be waiting a while idt Microsoft or hp have any plans for new wmr controllers but I may be wrong
The new pair controllers look intresteting
Psvr*
Yeah
HP has been pretty active with their customers from what I've seen
Also the same trigger as the ps5 
only because there were so many issues at launch 
I had that First-hand...
It was the Software issues that really pissed me off
But honestly after trying my friends index I would keep my g2
It has fantastic resolution however
The immersion from the resolution is unparalleled for me I wouldn't trade it
maybe an 8k x some day in the future 
I'm gunna need a serious pc upgrade tho
Had to upgrade my PC a little bit to even use the Reverb G2
Switching from RX 470 to RX 5700
Nice
Thanks
What cpu
Pretty old. I7 7700
mines even older lol
I have a i7 6700 with a 2070 super
vrchat chugs sometimes since I'm so cpu bottlenecked
That used to be a problem for me too.
Nowadays I only have the extra features enabled for friends.
here i sit waiting for 12th gen intel
could def try making the dynamic bone limiter more restrictive? o:
Like Shaders or particles
Dynamic bone collision checks can be pretty intensive, especially since DB is reportedly single-threaded (not VRChat, though) - DB limiter can be adjusted with the config file: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/configuration-file#avatar-dynamic-bone-limits o:
get amd
Intel has been pretty good to me so far.
I was considering a 5800x but early reports on 12th gen don't seem too bad
Only Nvidia has really been terrible, which is why I only buy AMD GPUs
Every computer I've tried with an Nvidia GPU, eventually for no reason the GPU ejects itself
U didn't push it far enough into the pcie slot 
One of them was a Laptop
so ur telling me ur card just kinda says "fuck it" and pops out
Well not literally
like an SD card lol
When playing a game that requires a GPU (even a low-end game like Half-life on OpenGL) it goes black for a few seconds then gives an error message saying the GPU ejected.
The only way I can play anything requiring a GPU then is by restarting the computer
might be an overheating issue? not sure o:
Could've been
Or though each computer that had that problem was kinda old.
The worst part is there was no good way to diagnose that problem
anyone else unable to load vrchat the last 24 hours
just black screen crashes my computer
How far do you get ingame before that happens?
Crashes your entire computer or just VRC?
is a shame wmr controllers don't seem up to snuff
Probably 'cause MS can't into VR very well.
@sharp saddle yes outa no where. Worked fine the past month.
Whew I just spent a couple hours making a fallback avatar. I started at 64k polys and ended up with 9.7k
So your entire PC crashes? That's not good...
What happens when you alt-tab?
Nothing
Might be a GPU crash then.
Next time it goes black, try pressing CTRL + Shift + Windows + B?
That'll reset the graphics driver
A full PC crash would be something like BSOD or your PC turns off completely.
Is there a way to tweak gpu to run without black screening again
Try the key combo I listed above, that'll make the graphics drivers reset o:
def might be worth checking your graphics driver for an update
Everything is up to date
What GPU do you have?
Intel I9
Nope gaming pc lol
GPU, or graphics card
Rtx 3090
Mmm. And are you on VR?
Yes
That could be the problem then.
VRChat can play weirdly with 3000 series iirc? o:
SteamVR entirely, yeah.
Try rolling back to an older graphics driver, if possible
It don't play nice.
What happens when you run VRC in desktop mode?
Haven't tried yet
See if it crashes then. It might just be SteamVR having problems.
It must be, used quest 2 for a month never had this, valve had about 2 weeks flawless. Last night crash and hasn't been the same since
could also def try turning down the Index' refresh rate and see if that helps?
^
afaik 144hz is still experimental
I honestly did everything I could to help it out
At one point looked like I was playing mine craft
Still crashed
anyone havin troubles with vr controllers on vrc? for some reason the pointer doesn't appear on the controllers and whenever i join a world it just doesn't track at all
is there any way to disable the moniter version of VRC when in Steam VR mode? i feel like it is eating extra GPU resorces
Not that I'm aware of?
oh well
Then it's a SteamVR issue.
Thats just weird that it was fine for so long
def not sure this'll help, but might be worth a shot?
Click the hamburger-menu at the top-left of SteamVR's desktop app, go down to Developer > Developer Settings, then Remove All SteamVR USB Devices
Unplug the Index from your computer, then plug it back in and wait for Windows to recognize it again, then try SteamVR
I didnthat too, I even used quest 2 virtual desktop both wired and wireless
The only thing that comes to mind is someone crashed me on vrchat last night with an avatar
could try clearing your cache and resetting your avatar from the website maybe? there's no way for avatar or client crashers to physically harm your computer though o:
!cleancache
You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from config.json if you have it
Does oculus have thier own pc application 🤔
Yes?
I can try to play VR through my PC using oculus app
Do you have an Oculus headset?
I have a commission slot open for a vrchat model, is there a channel here that I can post the info in?
I do
You do commissions?
@sharp saddle Yep! Custom avatars (sfw only tho)
funny channel name we know
is there any way to delete a ready player me avatar?
if it's yours, yes, if it isn't then duh
how?
they dont show up there
Manage Uploaded Content in the VRChat SDK dropdown o:
they show up on the other tab
Anyone know why I can load some worlds but others just don't? They get to like 10% then just fail
try clearing your cache if you haven't already? o:
in the top-right of the ingame settings is an advanced settings menu, where you can clear the downloaded content cache
I did that, but it still happens
perhaps your isp is messing up the connection
But some worlds I can join but then random others I can't
vrchat doesn't run on a single server
isp blocking half the thing is a very well known thing here
Idk what that is imma be honest
is there a way to get in touch with a person to make my oc for an avatar
ello
Literally working with 24/25 slots 💩
Yeah yesterday I had on my oculus quest 2. I think this is bug ;-;
having the same issue but with 3 stuck avatars (removed/banned avatars i guess?) i can favorite/unfavorite other avatars so its just those 3 (not sure if its the same for others but here the unfavorite button is greyed out)
Hi
lol did bclub worlds got banned?
ye
It’s still around
it went private
Eh new here
Did it?
@lusty rock I just found it, there are 777 people in it
And it’s public world
Its a lucky world
^ link to world on website

@vocal shard u good fam
fam
am ded
sus
yeah bug or smth i see it now
If i was to change my vrc name would i need to sign in with the new name
What does Pepsi taste like
@steep tree no
The way vrchat does it, u have an account name (first name) and an ingame name that u can change (new name u choose ) u use the account name to login no matter what
Np
Anyone else unable to upload avatars at the moment? It compiles and gets to an empty "Upload new Avatar" upload screen for an existing avatar I want to update, then throws "The response was null. State: Error" in the console log with a handshake failure.
Very Chat.
after linking my account it still shows i'm a visitor? how do i progress that rank
Virtual Chat
wdym? add people?
Lols.
what's the point? just leave
🍿
I think that people just can't go back on a decision if they are banned.. maybe part of them decides to come back in the future if it was a choice they made themselves..
Jeezus.
It's kinda finalised for them if they are banned outright, no more indecision.
hi
Hey, dumb question: I have a quest, but I was wondering if its possible for me to use the same account on both my pc and quest?
mhm just got to link it up
Alright. Do I have to pay to do that at all? I noticed something with that...
nah
basically get the stick witch is 50 pounds OR get ur steam acoount and set it up to both
I was hoping to link the accounts together. Also, not really; anxiety is kinda screwing with me rn.
ok well if u want add me on discord and ill be friends or just friendly
Make a VRChat account and link your quest account with your VRChat account on there website~
Vrchats website?
Lambs are cute.
make a vrcht account and link vr quest to that vr account
That's a lie~
why the fuck you lyin
I don't lie.. xox
Where do I find my account link token?
@vocal shard ingame there should be a link button I think it’s in the setting menu
Here take a read through that, gives a good explanation
Right.. time for me to jump on the desktop and mess around with udon some more.. I took a break yesterday.. a full day without unity entirely.. I felt freedom at first, but then loneliness.
That's deep bro
^
is there any way to access a log file to see why i crash upon trying to enter a world?
its not a problem with the world i assume considering there are multiple instrances with people in it
i have not heard such bullshit in a long time
%appdata%\..\LocalLow\VRChat\VRChat\
i hate that windows uses \ instead of /
yo?
@prime copper mhh cant find anything that points to a crash
i mean it doesnt crash the window just freezes
🤔
already tried clearing downloade cache and even reinstalling ._.
out of 12 tries i got to enter the world once and froze within 2 seconds
the other times i just froze in a black screen
could it be you running out of ram/vram?
6gb vram 16gb ram
what gpu?
1060
vr or desktop?
desktop
Unity is a engine for development . I didn't mention VRChat.. which btw is a social platform not a game.. we just choose to release world's which have games on them.
have you tried updating gpu drivers?
then you could be missing vital drivers themselves
did you install your usual direct x shit?
net framework?
at least the 2 others i tried. But for example in the home room i cant throw pillows either (but im not sure if thats a non-vr limitation)
Hey, is there anything special I need to do to favorite an avatar on PC? I click "Favorite" with the avatar I selected but it just blinks grey and nothinfg happens
@wind zealot for 1 world in vrchat? lol
yes
i reonstalled windows 7 times to get two finger tap for right click
then i figured out that elan drivers are shit and don't have a gui, amd as windows is shit, i need to change registry values and reboot after every change to see the differemce
thanks microsoft
i rather not
reinstalling windows is ez, unless you already have downloaded a bunch of crap and don't have any spare drive to dump it all onto
Is it normal for it to just blink grey and I'm just oding something wrong?
shouldn't be happening
Internal: JobTempAlloc has allocations that are more than 4 frames old - this is not allowed and likely a leak - that is the last line int he log before the freeze
I cant bloody get into the game, im getting the "make sure your device has a working internet connection" which is utter bul
well you probably should check your internet connection
and whether your isp blocked vrc, which is possible in dumb places like russia
well you should try using a vpn
to see if your isp did block it
better safe than sorry, it's quick and is one way to see if true or not
@fathom wing me 2 wtf
also quest moment xd
isnt this the error that happens when the servers overload
#user-support-old is for you two
vive bruh
sorry
Aussie gang getting server issues ?
Yepp
Even worse then Maccas Wifi
I was on a bit ago, but got crashed by some random people in a pug, they somehow nuked the entire server even with safetys on, connection was mostly fine besides the instant death.
If you got crashed, you or someone else probably instigated it
Not really, I was chilling and this guy came on and insta crashed the lobby.
This senseless violence shouldn't have to happen often, but happens when people are either bored, or angry.
This is why we need stricter Crasher control
It wasn't just one guy either a whole gang of them.
jesus...

fixxxxxxx itt tupper
Literally abunch of people came up to me and was like "YO YOU Bla bla bla" tried to frame me for crashing people, then immediately crashed the entire lobby.
It was wild
holy fruck
aussie gang needs it
safety system is a bit bugged..
all avatars that get loaded get loaded for a split second before safety settings kick in
so if someone has a malicious/purposely corrupted avatar, it can still crash you unless they're completely blocked
I had them completely blocked
I blocked each one and then the next second
I somehow got yeeted
Maybe they had a alt hidden
It was abunch of purple users too, not like green or blues.
Also I agree to that name, I am a big fan of Neptunia.
I do a neptune impression as a hobby. ❤️
So I'm seeing a pattern here It seems to be a problem with Australian Servers not working and then it seems that it could be effecting other servers too
mhmm
am sad
reeeeeeeeeeeeee
this honestly sucks
i just want to chill with my homies but i have to restart multiple times and even then my friends list doesn't want to load
my friends list just makes my game lagggg
i keep freezing too
If ur name is Naughty Kitten on vrc I think I have u as a friend lol
Its annoying me the freezing and everything
its got an underscoe infront
lol?
Sorry I just saw the name when my game tried to show friends
any mods on bruh
😂
hm, not sure why vrchat is not letting me in even though i have a stable internet connection atm
it seems like a spike in problems
welcome to the club
ah rip
Yepp
Is it me or is VRchat lagging today
Does anyone know why every time I pull out my stream camera it drops my frames from 80 to like 10 I want to fix it but I don’t know how to
maybe because stream camera does that lol
Ok
if you can't live without it, you will find a way, if you're too lazy, that means that it's not really that needed
Alright I’ll find out a way
so I’m in a bit of a conundrum
I’ve been playing VRChat for over a year and my account has been stolen recently. I used to be BigKidLol, however Someone by the name of Legacy has stolen my account and changed my name to floyed_monkey. I cannot change my name back because my older brother made my account, and he does not know the password. The email to reset the password either wasn’t the correct email or the message didn’t go through. TLDR, I got my account stolen and name changed and cannot change it back because I am unsure of the email and do not know the password.
what are users supposed to do ? xd
Thanks
that's an issue for the vrc team #vrchat-support
Does anyone know how to use steamVR I’ve used it from oculus for a while and didn’t know anything about it and now I open up steamVR and it just comes up a room and not vrchat can someone help?
i love when people say Oculus, it's like saying I'm on Apple
with Oculus having segradable Quest series, they have Rift, they are two very different ones
@forest jolt u just go to the screen and click on the game in the library
Yes I’ve done that but it just comes up quit game to play it and idk how to open vrchat from that
@forest jolt u can just launch vrchat from steam in vr mode from the library like u normally would start a game
@forest jolt also why not just use the oculus version of the game?
Unless ur using full body or something
Cause I will be visitor for life if I use that
I play vr chat from the oculus version and this one dude said I will just be visitor and never rank up or whatever
@forest jolt well he lied
Lol
hello
Hi
hello
hello
what happened?
the chat has died, besides that, nothing much
full reboot or the restart of the game
refresh audio device

Its something they are actively working to fix, things just take time
also voices are determined by your settings and the world settinga
are u using vr headset ??
also refreshing audio devices does fix that issue without restarting (also vrc has a 8 audio fire limit so if an avatar has 8 consecutive sounds. kiss audio goodbye)
it happen to me so what u would do right now is update your win
that is probably a troll/mod user and should probs get reported
hello
i need help
when im in VRchat (desktop mode) my character moves backwards and i think its cause of the controller but the controller is unplagged so what do i do?
don't swear
usually whenever i go into a public or public party event, i always disable visiters and new users to make sure i dont crash so I know 🤥 who did a crash or not
when im in VRchat (desktop mode) my character moves backwards and i think its cause of the controller but the controller is unplagged so what do i do?
you already asked that
they don't work like that, they still load for a tiny amount of time before it kicks in, so they still can crash
and if you need help there is a channel made for that #user-support-old
only if it is one of those weird perf block avatrs, but those are rare and 512 GB of ram takes a while to fully take out
Unable to load game after login
this is not Google
no one assumes they are bad, but there is always that 1 that will appear. if you want to: you can just let their voice allowed
i mean safety block lol. im way to used to talking to quest people now oh no lol
either way. id go quest style and just unmute who comes by or go to private lobbies since most people in a private lobby will br nicer
No one know whats going on?
ah. so that 8 voices at once glitch is probs common for you lol
black cat is a magnet for modded trolls. i have not been there in at least a week. and probs been 3 months since a public instance lol
dang. must be scary. jk
I made my OC quest compatible! 
congrad, youve done one of the hardest things in existence
theres clients specifically advertised for jars worlds (like murder and amongus) and it is very unfun when they appear
yea, I remember when the game was 70% publics. but now its 70% privates now because of how many people are just in the game just to be malicious as possible
bruh i didnt cheat lol
english is a challenging langauge
yea. but yea. thats like super annoying. yet the whole game is thriving pretty hard even tho people are basically forced to not go into publics and it is not fun
I hope I get to new user
ic
among us is overrated
change my mind
dude, there was lobby with some dude who could kill you at spawn. even before the game begins
among us fanboys makes Undertale fanboys look mature
to be honest 🤔, any game jar makes or remakes is very popular. but lets be honest. its a good simple game. its just among us has taken over the universe by accident
nah i was trolling this dude who had hacks and he literally killed me in the lobby 5 times lol
lmao
nah man, the box where the mirror button dont work and there is no jump or side to side movement
maybe with enough time and polish, but otherwise VRchat and shooters dont really fit together
that is very true. thats why ive never made a shooter game world on this game because htf am i supposed to do that without explosions
ok, so i was having 1 of those “world creator discussions” with the boys and we were like “what if we had a world where you drive 500+ miles and socialize with the people in the vehicle”
so instead of racecars and stuff like that, its more of a group car drive
floating point precision goes brrrr
Just drive in a big ass circle
@regal furnace snakeway is like 12.450k meters away from spawn and it gets sooooo jitter at the end lol
so basically that new car world then?
tbh, i want to make worlds where there is 100 buttons, 1000 pens, 1000 cars, 1000 mirrors. i want to see if those kinds of worlds could just exist for no reason lol
i hadnt had time to try in full body yet, but i hope there will be some pass racing at some point with these cars
driving a manual is fun
the guy working on it was trying to get the most realistic expierience ever
nah, touge racing
with 90s shitboxes
i would need to ask the creator of that prefab if he ever plans on releasing that system for the public
i would make a nice pass track in an instant
||catgirl thighs to #general-media||
hello i need some help with uploading avatars
i hit upload and the avatar is not in my avatar menu
anyone know how to help?
If the upload was successful, it may just take a bit of time for the menu to be updated. You can try loading into a new world if it doesn't automatically update in a moment.
ive loaded into a black cat and its still not there
and even like a month ago i tried to upload it
just doesnt appear
Do you have multiple accounts?
it needs to be exactly 2018.4.20f1
and you upload to the correct platform?
yea i hit publish to windows
hmm, then i have really no idea anymore
Has anyone ever ran benchmarks on VRChat between intel and amd CPU's?
1 person probably has. and i think they posted about them somewhere
Imagine playing vrchat and running into a user you haven't seen in over a year. (who is banned) And has been continuing to run around without being banned again for evasion while using a client... (What happened to the mods of vrchat???) like hello? please flat ban all modded clients.
you have proof that he is using a modded client ?
flat-out automatically banning client users is much easier said than done, especially since it'll inevitably become a cat-and-mouse game - that said, if you have any evidence of them doing so (video, screenshots, output log, etc) send it to #moderation-reports o:
Only allow a client to connect to the server if a key is verified between client and server, some sort of encrypted packet that only vrchats servers would recognise as legit.
inevitably though, a system like that would be worked around - you release a patch to fix whatever exploit they're using to modify the game's client and get online with it, they'll work around it, repeat ad infinitum
Meanwhile the average performance of the normal users tanks because of all the constant patches and bloating assosiated with that
People who are banned running around is a piss take.. there must be thousands of them and not all will be reported and caught.. that is a security flaw that has to be fixed or people will just continue to exploit, it's unacceptable.
Can't fix that
^
If someone changes their hardware ID, uses a VPN and etc, there's no real way to associate their banned account with a new account unfortunately, afaik
unless you start checking IDs or something lmao
No one would and also should agree to ID verification or something alike
aaaa I'm trying to upload an avatar but I'm getting a NotImplementedException
Ncsoft had this problem years ago with bots who were connecting to the server.. it went on years till they finally did something about it.. but they completely stopped modded clients connecting to the server in the end.. I know there's a lot of mmos who do the same thing too, so the possibility to fix this does exist but I'm unsure of the methods.
Funnily there are a ton of users with modded vrchat. Like a majority of my friends list uses them.
Quest users don't count in this case
I see.. then although not a very welcoming route.. I'd say if it were built around the idea of the quest then this would not be an issue..
but will modding the quest cause a (facebook) ban?
Beat Saber on Quest has a modloader
From Beat Saber modding? Never heard anything about anyone getting banned
I don't think the Beat Saber ToS forbids it.
Wouldn't be very clever if they hunt down on mod users in their case
Modding is a pretty big scene in Beat Saber. Definitely would make a massive damage.
You just really need to keep in check with your terms on people who use modded clients in the game. My friends and I have had multiple encounters with people who have ripped friend's avatars and uploading them publicly or crashing others and we can't report everyone in the game.
Yeah these type of people are scum. I know lots of my friends also have mods but they don't have shitty ones that ruin others experience. Well at least the majority of my friends have them... Some have but i luckily never saw them doing shit, if they did they wouldn't be my friend anymore.
pfft could always just move to Stadia /s
Things are real bad when you can't actually remove a user who just keeps coming back and violating.. no wonder we have so many trolls here.. it's a free pass so they can do as they wish without consequence.
That... Would actually solve the modding and ripping thing. But comes with its own problems again lmao
lmao yus
200 ping on headset tracking sounds fun
That's the internet. Can't really avoid that without requiring an ID verification check.
The question is what would solve it
Does recroom or other companies like Microsoft owned altspacevr have this problem? Microsoft don't take no shit so I doubt they do but still makes you wonder on their security in place.
I left my vrchat cam on
Literally nothing except you get in jail lifetime for it lmao
God, this feeling of disgust and pure distrust towards folk with modded clients in vrchat is seriously unnerving.
I left my vrchat camera on switched to pc now im stuck in the cameras pov
oh
The whole internet has this problem. Only company which i know who is actively cracking down on alt accounts is Facebook
i switched avatars with a keybind and its fixeed
I despise Facebook but agree totally with that methodology.
People use modded clients for various reasons, both non-malicious and otherwise, but regardless it's against TOS
A lot of companies don't bother because they don't have the resources to do that.
Like Discord
They only care if it's directly related to API abuse lol
Third time's a charm. Anyone wanna chill with me?
sadly
not in my opinion lol, allowing clients in any form is a slippery slope
theoretically, if someone NEEDED the client to even open vrchat, what would happen?
i.e a client meant for 'protection' that also conveniently has a crashing feature
Breaking tos always involves a "risk". It's up to the person if it's worth it.
lol
They wouldn't play VRChat lol - to clarify I mean modded clients, not the original non-modded client that the game comes with

Octo not everyone has a dynamic address.
That's the one
that was an emote and a half lmao
@vocal shard
You sure it's a good idea to admit to evading a ban here? Just like admitting using mods. Usually i see people getting yeeted for that.
^
also def not trying to sound rude, but it's the Terms Of Service - by breaking the TOS, VRChat's fully within their right to discontinue service
When there are so many and with such possibilities.. why would they care?
Well they technically can also do so without reason
yus, section 13
That's also stated in almost every tos that they can discontinue service to you without providing a reason
cant ban him if hes denying it
Why shouldn't they? If there is no financial loss there is no damage.
If a server is hosted outside of your law system your laws do not mean a thing.. copyright material is often hosted in countries with no said law in place as a work around for this very reason.
would def recommend reading through https://hello.vrchat.com/legal, section 12d on prohibited conduct and section 13 on termination/discontinuation
sorry i know how to get custom avatar on oculus quest 2
?
i'm not quackity
in real life
Visit an avatar world (there's a search bar at the top-right of the worlds menu, along with a category of avatar worlds in the worlds menu) and click on an avatar pedestal, they tend to look like cylinders with an image of the avatar above them. If you want to save the avatar to switch back to at any time, open your Avatars menu and hit the Favorite button c:
https://hello.vrchat.com/legal section 13 is the term of service though o:
they can terminate service, with or without reason, at their discretion
Germans Discord terms of service also state they can terminate you without ever notifying you
You're agreeing to the terms of service (you have to in order to play the game), thus by breaking the TOS they're fully within right to discontinue service
your federal government doesnt affect VRChats terms
in the sense I took to anadre on a site where I could create a custom avatar but then I didn't know how to pass it on the oculus quest 2 I don't know if you know but the oculus quest 2 does not connect to the pc so I wanted to understand how to create an avatar even though I'm on ocul quest 2
If users are not controlled.. then this could become more of a law issue.. if people have a copyright choose to upload to private and their work is stolen and re-uploaded on the server.. at the rate it's going this could become a warez epidemic that could potentially see the law come down full force on the service for not taking action, this is a serious thing nowadays.
The Quest 2 can connect to a PC o:
also, you don't need to do so in order to upload an avatar, as long as you have a computer that can run Unity 2018.4.20f1
Discord (in its German TOS) and VRChat both say they can terminate your account without providing a reason. Especially Discord included that also in its German version
sorry i'm stupid
you're fine! I'm assuming you're talking about Ready Player Me?
what?
what site did you go to? o:
Discord does this literally all the time
I that’s pretty standard in all online free services. They reserve the right to delete any account they want. They don’t need to justify it - their servers. They aren’t obligated to let you access them.
Discord also bans people just because they were in a server that got banned
I think its just most include that in their TOS to avoid legal trouble
Facebook also bans people who did literally nothing the whole time
Deleting accounts for no reason will certainly make for a bad service but they can do what they want if they actually wanted to. You couldn’t sue or anything unless you claim discrimination or something
That’s just not how the internet works. You can remove peoples access to your servers if you don’t want them on it. You don’t have to justify it
hai
Just like any store is private property and can ask you to leave and ban you from the premises, any server can ban you if they personally don’t want you there. Reasoning is not needed, it’s their property
Germanys laws and court of justice is somehow superior to the rest of the world..lol
This isn’t true.
...
Is discord being slower today than usual, or is it just me?
You don’t, that’s not how any of this works.
Thanks guys. Super helpful :D
It definitely is.
No lol. No court would give a shit if a Discord server bans you without reason.
Germany seems to be superior as their laws somehow apply to the rest of the world...lmao
Thanks for the confirmation!
is legend rank still a thing that u can earn
Maybe don't talk shit. I'm German myself.
Do we need a dev to tell you?
afaik no, though Veteran is
Nonetheless though, the highest rank that can be visibly seen is Trusted
No convincing anyone until someone like a dev comes outta the blue
You don’t need to give a reason to ban someone. If you run a server and you have a personal grudge against someone you can ban them. Doesn’t matter if it’s a personal Minecraft server or a game on steam, a store, or a website. As long as it’s not discrimination for a legally protected right (gender, race, sexuality, religion) you can ban someone for not thinking your jokes are funny. There’s no legal protection.
By using the platform, you agree to the Terms of Service. Within the terms of service, they retain the ability to remove you from the platform for no reason. You are in agreement of this when you press "Yes" on the terms of service.
Attempting VRchat again, part 1000
If you are in agreement of the service, you use the platform. If you are not, you do not.
we can test it and we can go to court
False
That's so incredibly not true that it hurts...
if they feel that you've done something banworthy, you've broken the TOS: https://hello.vrchat.com/legal section 13
I'd ban you just to see if this kangaroo court system applied to the rest of the world because it makes zero sense.
"You can't stop me from taking a ride in your car as long as I don't break your windows"
Your attorney is going to tell you that your service was terminated under a clause you agreed to, and that you have nothing to stand on.
If you send me anything, then something from an actual lawyer or a citation of a law
I don't trust random influencers
We arent gonna convince this guy
There legitimately doesn't have to be one.
He is a random influencer
Please read the terms of service.
If you violate any provision of this TOU, your permission from us to use the Platform will terminate automatically. In addition, VRChat may in its sole discretion terminate your User Account on the Platform or suspend or terminate your access to the Platform at any time for any reason or no reason, with or without notice.
He doesn't understand.. it's pointless to try and get him to.
The TOS says they are allowed to ban you for no reason, and you agreed to it.
State the law
Please read the ToS, or VRChat's Laws for using the platform.
which law are you referring to lol
No law he cites will matter, he agreed to a TOS
Exactly.
You signed your rights away when you agreed to terms of service.. just accept the inevitable. Lol
You agreed to it.
Then why is it there?
ony story I'm finding is for a Microsoft account, which holds much more power than a VRChat account ever could lol
Any law you claim won’t hold up, all vrchat has to do is show the terms you agreed to of you saying you are ok that they can ban you for no reason.
a VRChat account holds much, much less of a responsibility than a Microsoft account, and definitely aren't directly comperable
I give up. If he maybe gets to actual provide a citation to the actual law instead of listening to random people on Twitch or YT or whatever then I'll come back.
Incorrect
hold on whats happend?
Yeah, plonk
So many brick walls
No, i won't listen to a random guy from Twitch
posting a link to a random youtube video stating the law is kinda like pointing to a Facebook post as evidence against vaccines
Germany has absolutely no power in the influence of governed contracts signed.. you signed you agreed it's a contract between the client and the server and your laws do not apply regardless of what you believe.
oh it's politics nvm them
"No one would spread misinformation on the internet..."
Just state the law which is actually saying it's forbidden. How hard is that? A random YTer or whatever doesn't count. I can too spread false information.
Have these twitch streamers taken action against VRChat in german courts?
Just watch a YouTube video.
and have they succeeded or failed
I will not accept anything remotely where Germany seems to hold a seat of power above the rest of the world.. it's ridiculous.. when you sign and you agree then it's on you.
Also, take into consideration that some platforms unban people to do damage control
wow this got rule 2 real fast
Tupper makes some good tutorials.
😂
They dont win till the end
Its all free for the most part.
Never say they're winning or losing until they actually did
Just got to put time in. I'd rather play the game.
You'll need Unity 2018.4.20f1 and VRChat SDK3 (or SDK2, though it isn't getting any content updates) along with some modelling software of some kind, likely Blender c:
I'd also recommend getting CATS Blender plugin, as it can help automate some stuff (like atlassing, decimation, shapekey making, etc)
I can too ban anyone from my personal Discord server i want which you stated is illegal, which is a joke hopefully from you
Zuvali coming in clutch again.
they didnt like him because of?
I want to suddenly ban some random German just to see if I get sued..
Imagine telling lies on the internet.
Imagine believing that your country holds more power in the court of law than any other country in the world.
yw! there's also help channels for more specific things too if you get stuck or want help, in the Development and Avatar categories of the discord c:
blip?
Bloop.
The chat is dead since he left.. now it's boring again.. someone raise the standards and make this entertaining again pls.
Imma go look for some drip.

Does anybody know where I could download Twerk 3?
Hmm
Or find general emotes?
Does anyone else have issues where when playing VR Chat in VR mode, downloads are EXTREMELY slow (5Mbps on a 300Mbps connection), but on the same PC, playing VR Chat in Desktop mode gives download speeds of 150Mbps?
oh your talking about an animation on a emote wheel
yeah its not like its some standard one from a default set so your gonna need to find it somewhere online
or ask the avatar creator somehow
I don't use vrchat much.. unless developmental reasons.. thankfully I'm. Not alone in this.. lol
Literally, I load up VR Chat in VR mode, and downloads are 5 to 15Mbps at best. Exit and immediately launch in Desktop mode, and the same world suddenly downloads at 150Mbps
Do you know any sites I can use?
dont bring me into this
nope
Following Tupper on Twitter was a good decision. He shows stuff I didn't know i wanted until I saw it lol
Like a second hand toilet?
CyanTriggers and that woojer thingy
Sigh... yes well.. I just need the dam cyan triggers now really.
Learned about that through Tupper
I wish there was a Wikipedia thing on walk-throughs for certain content.
How to walk through solid matter
Instead of joining another discord.
I like to play the game yet I get sucked back into here.
😂
It's because this is better.
No comment.
Actions speak louder than words, I know :)
I should go play too. Sucks i only have 3 hours of free time per day
yall are getting free time?
I have unlimited time a day and get bored preety easily.. I'm currently waiting on a user in here that wants to pick my brain about world development.. so I'm just waiting until they are online really..
I have so many ideas a day, so many projects that could yield really positive results as started as experiments.. but I am so focused around my one project I never get the time to actually focus on others.. it's irritating, all I can do is mention them.. and then when I do someone wants to meet me in vrchat and have a conversation about it.. lol.
Bro, help me
help me out
with?
I've been (trying) to play VRChat all day and I'm just bored and burnt out
I want to feel something different and I have no energy
Monster energy drink?
take a break and do something different
Wait.. I've been trying to play vrchat all day so what's stopping you then if your burnt out.. is it that base station issue you have? Yes I noticed it a while back.. I don't think it's related to infared reflections if that helps..
I'm still getting the NullReferenceException issue when I try to upload a world. I really need some feedback on this. I started a new project, installed the latest SDK3 and then imported my scene from the old, broken project. I made sure to exclude anything that referenced vrc or the sdk, or udon, when I created the export from the old project. I'm still getting the error and I can't upload the world.
Does anyone know how to solve this issue?
Is the website friends list not working properly for anyone else too? People showing as 'offline' when they are online or the other way around. And not ordering them properly anymore either? 😭 I always spy on my friends to see if it's worth hopping on but now I am confusion
i've had the same problem as well, but they'll show as "offline" when in the list of who's in a certain world.
I'm already hungry and now I see a virtual burger.. meh, I'm gonna go get food and stop starving myself.
I'm not sure if that's safe. There are many VRChat files that don't contain the terms VRC, SDK, or Udon, that would still count as not being a clean install.
How would I go about doing it?
I looked at the link in the support channel, but it wasn't helpful.
Likewise there's a good chance there are many files that contain "SDK" in unity that you do actually need. 🤔
Hey guys😁
My recommendation is to import SDK3 into a blank project and manually move over assets one by one that you know what they are. Don't mass move any folders. Just the textures, materials, and models that you know you're using.
then import the scene file
When I exported the scene from the other project, I chose the items that were clearly within udon and sdk directories.
Is this channel for help
moving the sdk breaks it
so dont move the sdk
VRCSDK also has some files outside of the assets folder.
I would essentially be rebuilding this entire project.
Oh ok thanks
That is actually what the documentation says - upgrade from SDK2 isn't actually supported
I had sdk3 before.
That's different then - you should have been able to just update the SDK3 overtop of the previous one
Yes. But I don't know if that's what caused this. I only know that I can't upload a world.
Does it do the same for other projects or just that one?
I only have one other project. I haven't tried to re-upload it, but I could do that. I didn't have that problem with the other project before.
So it should just be this one.
Unless you're saying that vrc is having a problem on their end.
I mean that specific blueprint
I already upgraded from sdk2 to sdk3. But it basically involved a remake of the project.
This one project hasn't uploaded. It does "build and test", however. This is the only project I'm having this problem with. Does that answer your question?
Yeah. It can be done, but it's messy, and you'll lose all your triggers anyway.
At least of most stuff. Only things that I didn't had to remake were the avatar itself and the dynamic bones
oh, avatars.
I also upgrade a world currently
With worlds you'll need to remake all your triggers with Udon
Don't have to remake it but it's basically nothing complex anyways
I wait for CyanTriggers
I don't understand udon
Way too complex
I'm the opposite. I'm happy CyanTriggers exist for the people it makes sense for, but I couldn't get into world building until I had scripting proper
I can't think in the way triggers want me to
My world is just... An avatar world with a mirror, video player and ofc avatar pedestals
Nothing that can't be done with triggers
Except sdk2 video players are shit
I've got a game world under my hat, probably won't be ready for months. Don't know how people like Jar pump one out a month
jar is a girl? always thought it was a guy
it's vrchat who knows man
does anyone knows where i can get fairy tail outfits?
Don't crosspost.
yes i meant avatars
I'm aware. Still. Crossposting isn't allowed. 
anyone else’s game crashing
yes, a lot
why wouldnt they know
yes i know
i still have a 360
Me three.. the 360 is decent and most of the 360 games that have been released on xbox one play entirely different than they do on the 360.. and I don't like it.
anyone vrchat?
LESSS GOOO
ALEKZ64
bet\
dms?
yesss
ol
Good question.
For?
Erm... I dunno.
Explain "custom id".
Yeeeeeah... report that with as much evidence as possible. #moderation-reports
Forgot to mention, so VRchat fixed it's self kinda. Other people's models are now coming up as errors even after multiple reloads (includes some of my own). Forgot that, still can't join some worlds
i wish i had vr headset
hello!
hi
I had no idea there was a official vr chat discord lol, glad to be here :)
i just kinda accidentally came across this place
so i was like "i wonder if there's a discord server for this game" and blindly typed "vrchat" into the join server tab
lmaooo
worth it
how are you guys doing?
good hbu
im doing pretty good!
nice
:))
being under 13 is against both discord and vrchat tos :D
Did he got kicked? poor kid
thrown into the void lolr
lmaoo what happened?
some kid asked "can someone play with me under 13 only"
basically admitting they're under 13
ahhh ok
or is a possible creep who knows.
they specifically requested to be on desktop
which is weird
How do i get rid if avatars out of my favourites when they've been removed
Thanks
He should have just jumped into some random world.. they are full of kids nowadays
lol
im trying to get back into vrchat, I used to play a lot but lately I havent had any drive to play :(
you just need to find a good group of people to hang out with and you'll be playing much more often
yeah! usually I jump public worlds but it kinda makes me unmotivated if I jump worlds for 2 hours and dont find anyone
i'm a fan of ena (youtube animation series), so i joined a world based around that series and found a ton of people with my same interests
thats a good idea :)
indeed, i talk to those people daily now.
Yes we often talk about the concepts of paramatic designs and work flows of systematic engineering concepts.
unfortunately whenever I actually make friends in vrchat, we just play for like 5 hours straight and never talk again. it sucksss
It's all interesting stuff.
Yeah.. I have alot of people on my list that say the same about me, but it's because I'm always in unity or here.. lol
I just saw someone with a vroid avatar and not have shoulder problems I am furious
moment
moment
i wish we had a voice chat where we could stream
Anyone wanna play?
Just a silly questions where can we post unity screenshots of worlds we are making just to show them off like a showcase?
Looking to buy a new laptop for VR. Does anyone know the best GTX to get, or one that will work well?
Anything above 1060 will be good, consider looking at RTX 20 series too.
What about a 1660 Ti or a 2060 Max-Q?
I read somewhere that the Ti was slightly worse than normal 1660.
Those are good, yes, but it largely depends on which headset you plan on getting.
I have a Quest 2.
Oh, yeah, 1660 and up will be more than enough.
how is vr chat on the quest 2?
It's great, imo. It gets a lot of hate, but that's just because everything is downgraded from PC.
Still very playable, still very enjoyable.
yeah!, have you tried quest 1 vr chat?
No, I only have a Quest 2.
hey everyone
hey!
ah ok
everybod in my vr game cant change avatars
I'd imagine it'd look exactly like Quest 2 but slightly less visual quality?
maybe, I have the quest 1 so I was just wondering how much of a difference there was lol
Not much. Same limitations.
But the Q2 supports Link better since it's built with it in mind.
I think there also might be mic issues with quest 2?
Avatars are not changing
Yes, we call it the "Pringles can" mic.
lmaoo I needed a term for that 😅
!online
There are 26897 users in VRChat currently
Huh, relatively low pop.
dear lord of timeout
probably cause monday?
yayy vrchat is fucked up again
It is? 
can't swap avatars
cant change avatar
ripp
vrc having stroke
just dont change ur avatar
Anyone else having issues logging into VR?
great
lmao, ima just sit back, and watch people cry.
Really can't comply with that when I'm in Avatar Testing lol
everyone is
anyone else unable to login to the game
Trying now. 
are we surprised vrc is dying
uhh no
Phew thought I was banned or something
nope lmao
this happens a l ot
Ah, yep. Servers might be on fire again. 
I like when i try to upload a world then vrchat gets executed in the backyard
Happens when I'm testing avatars of all times lol
bruh i haven't uploaded an avatar in weeks and the one time i do they turn the servers off?
i just changed lol i need to changed again i was testing an avi
I'm just here to see if I can spot some familiar names
Damn, I woke up from my nap for nothing 
it happens when im trying to find new friends
@wheat sapphire That doesn't update within miliseconds of it breaking..
why i cant get on vrchat stuck in loading login
Here we go...
@broken cobalt read the chat history.
i want to see my world in all of its glory , but now i cant invite any egirls cause it died
Lol
I'm ready here with a gun to anyones face who dares to complain.
The avatar uploading is broken as well lol
wait... does this mean I have to be in reality now? ew
you never really need to ask if the servers are ded just look at this chat for awhile you will find out
^
So like do I go back and nap or just wait it out lol
complains
yup whenever i have an issue uploading an avatar this is my first stop
That's understandable.
sorry guys whenever i upload anything to the game the whole thing goes offline
sheesh
i think it might be my fault
hey, vrchat isn't loading, is something going on rn?
can anyone sigh in?
Friendlist is still so buggy AF i have to force myself to logout and relog in to see if they still online or offline
No, nothings going on
fr
but some people say OMG IT TAKES LONG TO LOAD LETS COMPLAIN and im adding some extra letters so the bot don't flag me for too many caps
i'm in the "initializing world..." screen for 3 minutes now.
Servers down
the servers are
oh THATS why
fucks sake
dying
@potent citrus There's some issue going down at the moment, have patience.
oof
i get stuck offline and have to relaunch the game
aight
wait- i got a new acc, i should change my name
this happens everytime i get on for the first time that day
lol
Honestly, here's a feature discord should add.
?
It's like pinned messages, but instead of hiding it in the pinned tab, it basically always stays at the bottom of your screen.
logging in errors and avatar errors rip
rip vrchat xD
yuplogging issues is come back again
But that would get annoying
ehh
realtime servers unavailable or something
cant login
they should fix that like- invites and req invites menu, it always breaks.
everything breaks
I'm talking about discord, not VRChat
they should fix the deleted avatar were you cant unfavourite them
ik
that's a mixed bag, sometimes it can, and sometimes it can't
agreed, so annoying.
Yes all servers are dead
aww rip
yup.
I need a vrchat Gf
o_o
in one of the pach notes it was said to be fix but does anything really get fixed
uhh yes
I'm just gonna put this into my copy+paste : "For anyone currently typing, yes everyone is aware the servers are lagging."
surprisingly or not they do get fixed
i need vrc friends
Same
lmao, there's a glitch that if you sit on someone that's sitting on you, you start flying
@vocal shard If I stay silent I can make a convincing egirl (who doesn't)
i do the glitch with rocks
making friends on vr chat isnt hard tbh
cant loggin
For anyone currently typing, yes everyone is aware the servers are lagging.
Same
pizza time, ready to see how long it takes for it to go back up 😳
Good idea @brittle abyss
easy to say when people think you're a girl 24/7 because of your voice.
when your shy af and only find people underage kind of but not really
whats wrong with that
well
My VRChat name is Coco!
What are friends?
facts
no idea :(
i really don't know-
When you try and socialize but people tell you to fuck off
Here's a fun fact!: Whilst the VRChat application may be down, the site mostly still works.
i have the feeling this isnt a minecraft server
can relate.

