vrchat-general-2

[silent wasp]

but the price tho

[knotty mortar]

Nah im not desperate mouse and keyboard work fine on vrchat for me rn

[silent wasp]

i've had my index for 3 weeks and my right lens already has a scuff

[languid beacon]

If you buy a valve index some part of it is going to be broken within a month you can guarantee it

[supple viper]

[knotty mortar]

Not got the space in my room to properly use a headset anyway lol

[silent wasp]

you'd think theyd make the lenses a little bit more resistant to glasses

i use a headset in a pretty damn tiny room

[supple viper]

Imagine paying over 1k just to get your lens scuff lmfao.

[silent wasp]

its not noticeable while playing tbh

[knotty mortar]

How does moving work with a headset in vrchat?

[supple viper]

10/10 valve index

[silent wasp]

but its still annoying that its there

[languid beacon]

I’ve had mine for 6 months now, the cable management buckle is broken and the left thumb stick does not detect if it’s being touched. Stuff on index breaks. A lot.

[supple viper]

Joysticks.

[knotty mortar]

Like directional moving not the limbs

[knotty mortar]

Ah i c

Isnt oculus meant to be quite good for its price?

[silent wasp]

yeah my index came and something was fucky with the face-plate magnets that let the electric current run through them. I was playing for 30 mins and then I felt a little jolt and my display went black

[languid beacon]

Whatever your head does the camera does so it’s just VR, you know? To move without walking in real life, it’s left stick. To rotate without rotating in real life, right stick.

[silent wasp]

looked underneath and the magnet was like burned

had to RMA the brand new headset lmao

[knotty mortar]

Like i heard most people use oculus quest

[supple viper]

Yes oculus quest 2 is great for the price, but people complain about facebook.

[silent wasp]

facebook is dogshit yes

[knotty mortar]

Complain about facebook?

[languid beacon]

I don’t personally recommend it if you have a good vr ready pc

[knotty mortar]

What has that got to do with oculus

[silent wasp]

Facebook bought Oculus a while back

[knotty mortar]

Oh.

[silent wasp]

like when it first started up

[supple viper]

Yep, how they always steal your data etc not like every site does that already lmao.

[languid beacon]

Using the quest as a PCVR device has some drawbacks because it’s not directly rendering displaying to the headset, it’s all being compressed and streamed to the headset and there’s a reduction in quality from doing that

[silent wasp]

I cant imagine how garbage that looks ngl lol

[supple viper]

But for a pcvr headset for 300. Damn that’s a good price deal right there.

[languid beacon]

Not as bad as you think but it is very there as this layer of JPEG draped over everything

[knotty mortar]

My pc hasnt got that much ram lol its not really vr ready

[silent wasp]

i see some VR ready prebuilts going for like ~800

[ashen wadi]

You can also do it wirelessly with virtual Desktop

[silent wasp]

seems like a not bad price

[languid beacon]

The JPEG becomes even more obvious if you’re streaming wirelessly

[ashen wadi]

Yeah but it's still nice

[supple viper]

I don’t notice at all honestly.

[silent wasp]

that means there must be some input lag right?

[languid beacon]

Couldn’t handle wireless, the input latency from waving my hands around made me uneasy

[silent wasp]

was gunna say, I couldn't imagine not having my hands tracked perfectly

too used to my index

[languid beacon]

It’s about a quarter of a second off when you’re doing wireless

[silent wasp]

thats kinda massive lol

[supple viper]

It don’t even notice the input latency honestly , lmao.

[silent wasp]

250ms is fucking gigantic

[languid beacon]

To be fair I’m not using the 5.0 router or ever you’re supposed to have

[silent wasp]

could be that

[supple viper]

Yeah, you need a 5ghz to use it.

[silent wasp]

I wonder if Valve index is gunna get a wireless adapter

the Vive did right?

[languid beacon]

But yeah compared to using my index which is just being used as a native display device there is no comparison there’s just no latency, period

[supple viper]

No duh, because you’re connecting to the pc.

But 1k for a headset bit pricy .

[silent wasp]

its not just the headset

[languid beacon]

To be fair I’m explaining this to someone who hasn’t used vr at all

[silent wasp]

controllers + headset + base stations

is 1000

and the tracking from the Index base stations is completely unmatched. You can't get more accurate tracking

[supple viper]

That’s a lot of money mind as well just get a oculus 2, a new gpu with that money lmao.

[languid beacon]

Index isn’t the only PCVR headset, rift S and Reverb or any other wired headset will give you the sa,e instant input

[silent wasp]

you can also get an OG rift for like 150 bucks lol

that thing is still pretty good if u buy it used

[supple viper]

Never trust anything used though.

[silent wasp]

fair enough

[languid beacon]

OG Rift is still stellar for vrchat, text is a bit hard to read but this a solid headset

[silent wasp]

some people dont have any other choice

[supple viper]

Yep. But how knows the seller would sell you a broken headset instead lmao.

[languid beacon]

Yeah if you buy a used headset you’re going to wanna wash that thing down you don’t want to put something some stranger had glued to their face on your face

[silent wasp]

yeah 100%

[supple viper]

Pretty nasty ngl

[languid beacon]

Especially an OG rift because it’s a foam faceplate that probably got caked in sweat from beat saber

[supple viper]

Ew.

[languid beacon]

I really hope whoever bought mine washed it

I sure didn’t

[supple viper]

That’s nasty , lol.

That’s how I don’t trust used stuff at all

[languid beacon]

hey that’s used, I believed my listing said “Extensively heavily used”

[supple viper]

Lol, normally I would see “used” or “used but like new”

[languid beacon]

Still sold for 270, no idea how or why

No I wanted no mistake that this thing was used for thousands of hours of beat saber. No take backs. Pictures of all its flaws, etc

But yeah I really don’t recommend getting a used one not after knowing what I sold

[silent wasp]

not recommended but the option is there

[patent python]

Why has vrchat been so unstable lately?

[languid beacon]

Growing pains

[vocal shard]

[floral crescent]

Guys is VR chat dying?

[limber shard]

Nah

[floral crescent]

Financially is it dying?

Some ppl say it is, with good reason to believe so

[limber shard]

I have no idea, but probably not now people can buy VrChat+ to get extra features and support

[regal furnace]

i doubt its dying financially

[limber shard]

I’ve only seen it with 20,000 people online or more so

[languid beacon]

Whoever told you that, I would recommend starting to ignore everything they say in the future.

[regal furnace]

20k is a lot considering a year ago it was around 8-10k most of the time, now it goes up to 30k quite often

new year even surpassed the 40k

[floral crescent]

I guess I will ignore everything I tell myself in the future

[knotty mortar]

I just find vrchat hilarious

[limber shard]

It’s become more alive then because of quest and more development?

[languid beacon]

VR is slowly becoming more mainstream. Quest certainly helped that perception, and made it slightly more affordable, yes.

And you know, the whole global social distancing thing.

[thin sky]

VRchat is far from dying financially but they do need to find some way to monitize the game beyond +

[dark orchid]

1000 dollars is as much as my whole setup lmao

[thin sky]

vrc+ is basically a donation with how little it offers and I would imagine maybe 20% at best of the playerbase actually pays it

[silent wasp]

my whole setup is like 3300

[regal furnace]

for a grand you also get the best of the best

[limber shard]

Full body tracking?

[languid beacon]

Not so sure, seems to be about 1 in 15 I see with a plus icon. 1 in 20 subscribers is considered a successful subscription service.

[silent wasp]

pc was 2 grand has a i7-10700F in it and an rtx 3080, plus the index for 1000 and another 300 for vive trackers

[silent wasp]

and yes full body tracking as well

[languid beacon]

10% user subscriptions is the ideal

[thin sky]

My only concern is if that's enough to keep the lights on with a smaller playerbase.

[limber shard]

3080 shitttt

[silent wasp]

ive spent many moneys

[limber shard]

How much is vrc+?

[silent wasp]

i dont even have vrc+

[thin sky]

as is I don't know their operating costs so it might not be as bad as I think

[silent wasp]

might get it tho

[languid beacon]

10 a month monthly or 8 a month yearly. You don’t need it though. It’s just more favorite slots

[thin sky]

It's a donation

if you look at it from a value perspective it's not there. But if you want to support the Devs it's the best way to do so

[languid beacon]

I use it for the icon sometimes but I don’t really use public avatars

I am interested in photo invites when that’s out though

[limber shard]

They’ll surely add more worth it features

[silent wasp]

i enjoy supporting developers

[languid beacon]

As long as they keep the plus stuff to stuff that doesn’t make people feel like they are missing out in a major way, I don’t mind subscribing

[silent wasp]

everyone knows how devs get treated in the industry these days

[languid beacon]

I mean I would rather they get their funds from VRC+ than Facebook

[silent wasp]

same

[vocal shard]

j

[lyric swan]

Is there a channel to ask if there’s any available animated avatars?

[thin sky]

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they move towards in game ads on worlds

[languid beacon]

Making money from your own system means you can decide what do with your platform instead of doing what investors want

Ads in the game you can’t be serious?

[vocal shard]

vrc+ should offer more.. probably like full customization of the nameplate or sum lol

[silent wasp]

theyre gunna develop more features

but as of right now its just more favorites

[bright crane]

Anyone wanna chat and play

[autumn tide]

sure

@bright crane sure i will

[compact copper]

came on here to meet ppl with issues like me but #aloneforevergang

[vocal shard]

https://twitter.com/Metamensa/status/1351553690633723904?s=20

[patent python]

Why is vrchat killing my audio drivers?

[vocal shard]

Hey is being invisible bad in vrchat and if it’s ok to do then how?

[finite saffron]

Pls don’t be invisible unless it’s not used to like troll

[vocal shard]

In deed I wanna make a scary avatar so XD

[finite saffron]

Ohhh ok cool

[vocal shard]

But you don’t know how do you?

[finite saffron]

No idea

[vocal shard]

Damm it i couldn’t find it on YouTube either

[finite saffron]

Welp good luck soldier

[vocal shard]

Thx mate have a great flight ✈️

[bright crane]

Anyone wanna play

And chat

[robust thunder]

It's voice activated, yell "America"

[short cedar]

any starwars fans here?

[slender loom]

how do you use .unitypackage avatars

[robust thunder]

Hell yea

Just anywhere ay

[gleaming hill]

How to troll two fandoms at once: Star Wars x Star Trek

[robust thunder]

Their both pretty good mate

[gleaming hill]

Was mostly joking that fans of one often dislike the other

[short cedar]

im planning on recording videos in vr, but i want fellow starwars peeps to play :)

[regal furnace]

you have to import them yourself via Unity

[robust thunder]

Lmao, yea. I dunno why some people are just so ragy at it

[slender loom]

but how would you do it with a .unitypackage

[vocal shard]

Dms

[robust thunder]

That's how you do it. I don't have unity open rn but it's something like: file, import, (find the package), import/ok

[slender loom]

i imported it but there's no .vrm file

i know i'm dumb

idk how to do this ;_;

[robust thunder]

Me neither mate. It's been a while since I've opened unity. I'm guessing you just haven't exported it as the right file

[slender loom]

when i try to duplicate and convert it says "not set: VRM.VRMMeta component"

along with other vrm things

[odd blaze]

vroid > blender (cats) > unity , if you convert it in unity you get a mess of an avatar

[quaint sage]

How do i enter in the open beta?

wait i think i got it...

[noble depot]

You can opt in to open-beta announcements at #open-beta-info, and you can download the beta by going to VRChat's Beta tab in Steam

[pliant orchid]

i was told a big cool roleplaying world is purple lotus but when i look it up it doesnt show up

[rancid jewel]

i just watched the entirety of ponyo in vrchat

[unkempt escarp]

Anyone here open for commisions to make me an avatar by any chance

[sharp saddle]

#community-servers-old, top of the channel.

[unkempt escarp]

O ty

Uh

[vocal shard]

?

[rancid jewel]

what

are you a pcie slot

[vocal shard]

Anyone know where I can get Attack on Titan avatars for Quest?

[craggy thistle]

on quest 2 is there a way to change the way u move to normal walking no teleporting

[vocal shard]

yes in your settings

[noble depot]

@craggy thistle Turn off Holoport locomotion in the settings

[craggy thistle]

ok

[umbral oracle]

Congrats on the launch. If this number is true, 37% performance boost is unbelievable!

https://twitter.com/Metamensa/status/1351553690633723904

lol @real loom

[unreal verge]

why did you steal my graphics card

[umbral oracle]

moderation bot deleting all the messages because people type in caps from being too excited

[dull swallow]

IM eXCITED

lol problem solved

[covert chasm]

yeah just pretend you're being sarcastic with the alternating caps

[lyric shore]

Is there a way to make it so I don't have to turn on "see avatar" on everyone's profile to see them on quest? I have all the security settings for everyone set except for that one option thats unavailable on quest. I've been told it's because of that one setting but I'm still able to enable their avatars just not automatically see them. Does anyone know if there is an option to enable it

Sorry for the wall of text btw

[rancid jewel]

a graphical improvement that may improve your GPU performance quite a bit
party time

[covert chasm]

No, that's highly intentional. Those avatars are hidden because they are absurdly poor performing.

[dull swallow]

i love you thank you. btw i say that to everyone

[covert chasm]

It is unwise to unhide them, unless you hate FPS.

[unreal verge]

That looks like a nice update, especially the avatars saving thing and performance

[dull swallow]

LOVE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU GUYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSs

[lyric shore]

Ok thanks

[unreal verge]

Quest 1 at least already gets 15 FPS at max if lots of people have poor avatars only. Dont want to imagine if every very poor is also unhidden lul

Tested in Black cat

[wild current]

just updated the SDK and the parameters don't seem updated, hmm..

[regal furnace]

the new vrchat update sounds kinda pog if you ask me

[unreal verge]

Yeah looks like a very good one. Gonna test it later.

[regal furnace]

that 20% increase in performance might be the bit that lets me say "fine, my 1070ti can stay a little longer"

[unreal verge]

My 750ti will probably be also happy lol

🤔

[regal furnace]

what got messed up?

[rancid jewel]

his vrchat world

[real cosmos]

the patch notes aren't on the website yet?

[covert chasm]

should be

[regal furnace]

usually its only engine updates that mess up worlds

[covert chasm]

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/latest-release

[real cosmos]

that just brings me to 2020.4.4

[covert chasm]

Press shift-R

your cache is out of date

[real cosmos]

ah, thanks tup!

[unreal verge]

I'm gonna start VRC now in Desktop mode to test performance a bit (and save avatar parameters)

[vocal shard]

I don't think it means a 20% increase in performance. It sounds more like a 20% reduction in GPU frame time

[wild current]

my SDK update doesn't seem to have changed paramaters
maybe I should try again and force it to overwrite all files, in case it skipped one

[white cairn]

Can't wait for people with dodgy AV3 avatars to get caught out by the saved state change 👁️

I expect to see memes

[vocal shard]

Everyone's gonna be horny on main

[woeful spoke]

@covert chasm it might just be me on Desktop but even so I see a significant difference in loading and the lag of loading others as well. That GPU optimization that yall did worked wonders.

[wild current]

"avatars save by default" peeps totally gonna be caught horny on main

[rancid jewel]

[cloud wave]

I just got my friend to download vrchat and it wont let them click agree to the services :o

[woeful spoke]

Before I had issues with 80-100% of gpu usage when loading in worlds so thats a significant difference to hit 43% still have yet to hit a major populated world yet with updates being downloaded but still kudos.

[warm pagoda]

i'm not sayjing the old glitch, cause last i played was ehh...sunday, why are there always the same hot worlds with only like a thousand ppl while the non-hot have like 20, i thought this game had like evry world and was way more popular

[covert chasm]

I fully expect everyone to start wearing Very Poor avatars everywhere and say "its ok, we got GPU improvements, we've got room now" 😛

note: don't do that.

[placid umbra]

I'm excited to see the results from the performance improvements, please let us know if you get better results on the new update!

[covert chasm]

please.

[mighty escarp]

my keyboard not working anymore :(

[vocal shard]

Stuff all the prefabs into models, got it.

[chilly tinsel]

i dont know is it only me but when i join my friends i dont see them in the world but it says we are in the same world

[sly veldt]

[covert chasm]

We just had an update, please see #announcements !

[vocal shard]

but nah, lol my biggest crime is my dynamic bones because I'm super ocd about my hair. but at least with that my avatar is like, medium if people have the dynamic bone limiter

[plucky furnace]

update not showing in steam

[warm pagoda]

thanks for ignoring my question

[woeful spoke]

I would say loading is a lot more smooth still a bit hiccupy but to be expected with some avis being large as I dont disable based on size unless crazy numbers XD. I say performance side is night and day difference. Not lagging as hard when people would load in or multiple avatar changes etc.

[vocal shard]

Vrchat is like youtube. Do you think every youtube video gets thousands of views?

[jagged mulch]

anyone elses game just close itself

[warm pagoda]

I didnt say that. in that sense, theres only 3 popular videos

[vocal shard]

There's only like, 3 popular channels is more like it

[quick prairie]

yea shit broke

[warm pagoda]

i thought there was alot more worlds is all

[jagged mulch]

rip

[vocal shard]

There are. It's up to you to search for them

[woeful spoke]

I have been on Desktop without any shutdown

[vocal shard]

Just browse random and enable Labs

[jagged mulch]

a friend is also having it

its if i try to go to public world

[quick prairie]

magically fixed itself wtf

[warm pagoda]

When i look up worlds on google or such then search em up...Poof. nothing. word for word, yet a compelety differnt world

[plucky furnace]

wtf

[vocal shard]

Like what. I've managed to find UNLISTED worlds that can't be found any other way except having the direct link to them

[plucky furnace]

im trying to go to a world but it sends me to one with no people on it

[vocal shard]

update your game

[plucky furnace]

update not showing in steam

[vast tulip]

either you need to update or all the people in that world needs to update

[vocal shard]

you gotta restart steam then

[plucky furnace]

I reinstalled the game but stills the same

[vocal shard]

then everyone else needs to update.

[woeful spoke]

Likely the latter on that statement from Mimi but still could be both XD

[vast tulip]

chances are you are updated and they are not

[warm pagoda]

Yeah that stuff is annoying. i expected the AOT worlds like stohess district to be stupid popular atm

[plucky furnace]

[vocal shard]

the update literally just went out soooo

[vocal shard]

That assumes a large majority of players are fans of AoT. Honestly, I only know a few people that care about it enough to visit an AoT map

[woeful spoke]

Im listening to a kid singing about minecraft zombies in Black Cat pretty sure its working XD

[jagged mulch]

mine didnt fiz itsel rip

happens on any world switch

[vocal shard]

bro...I'm so used to being in cyberpunks discord with the crazy cooldown timers they tend to have that not having one freaks me out lol

[warm pagoda]

i'm not saying that, i just expected the full population we see on HOT worlds to be like 10,00 at most all together

[woeful spoke]

I also dont show any logging issues with world switching which is interesting. Dev might want a log file if your issue is with disconnecting

[vast tulip]

what is AOT?

[vocal shard]

attack on titan

[vast tulip]

aah

[vocal shard]

I don't really get what you're trying to say here

[warm pagoda]

I mean it's the same crap with little difference all the time, i expected more worlds that contradict from that

[woeful spoke]

Im major confused here

[vocal shard]

I mean, i don't know. that sounds more like a you problem

sounds like you just hop around the same 3 maps that have people in it rather than go exploring with friends to find new maps

[warm pagoda]

What you don;t think i tried

[vocal shard]

no, not really

[woeful spoke]

Exploring with friends is fun

Unless they take you to water closet

[tulip lichen]

Exploring labs and less populated worlds is good fun, and often you'll find portals in a world to another world you haven't seen before and then down the rabbit hole you go

[woeful spoke]

Then its extra fun

Did quest update get pushed yet?

[warm pagoda]

we'll see. i've been trying for a while, but we'll see.

[vocal shard]

Have you flown fighter jets yet?

[rancid jewel]

they said that it'll be out 30 minute after the update launched on pc

[woeful spoke]

Im just seeing them pop in worlds so I figured yes but wanted to ensure XD

[warm pagoda]

What?

[woeful spoke]

Well have you

[patent python]

Why is vrchat disconnecting me from my WiFi?

[rancid jewel]

if you want unique worlds check out the "random" and "community labs" sections in the worlds menu

[vocal shard]

There are fully flyable fighter jets in vrchat. You can even fly C130's and F35-B's that can hover

[rancid vessel]

Anyone know what does Clear local avatar data button do?

[vocal shard]

that's what I'm trying to say. There are a LOT of unique worlds. you just have to be willing to world hop random maps

[woeful spoke]

@patent python you sure its vrc disconnecting you from the wifi and not the device?

[patent python]

Yes

[vocal shard]

new function. check release notes

[patent python]

The device and the connection are fine

[warm pagoda]

Weo=ll that's my problem. i dont know how to find that stuff 💀 but k, i'll give a try with some people suggestions on friday

[woeful spoke]

What device are you using is it straight desktop or quest or?

[vocal shard]

Find the Random and Labs tab of worlds.

[patent python]

Laptop

[vocal shard]

you'll find more unique worlds that way vs looking at hot/popular

also search for random tags

[warm pagoda]

Ah
thank you
i like murder 4 but no one wants to mute mics and stuff

[rancid jewel]

you should try the world called "keys"

[plucky furnace]

i guess ill play til tomorrow

[dull swallow]

but my very poor avatars are my everythhing

my WORLD

[warm pagoda]

I'm on quest, i probs never saw it, but it has that tab right

[steel flax]

hello

[warm pagoda]

well quest 2, not much difference to me except it's white and not black, dunno which one i prefer

[woeful spoke]

@patent python interesting it might be something different might be worth submitting a ticket to VRC regarding it as they will likely want logs from VRC to see if it is causing that disconnect.

[last badge]

Anyone want to hang

[warm pagoda]

got it for christmas and that was my firsy vr experience after playing go oculus

💀

[rancid jewel]

I use quest 1 with link

[warm pagoda]

Lel

[woeful spoke]

Oculus Go was disgusting XD

[warm pagoda]

Jumping from go to quest 2 is the best stuff ever

[warm pagoda]

it was all my mom could afford and i loved it cause vr. it's picking up dust now tho

[vocal shard]

I'm jumping to quest 2 then later on index

[woeful spoke]

Its great for introduction but that Quest 2 is amazing for the price

[supple viper]

Oculus go was a waste of product. Lmao

[plucky furnace]

oculus quest is shit

[woeful spoke]

I love mine just need to get the Oculus Link fixed as it keeps rando disconnecting me

[steep turtle]

why lol

[rancid jewel]

oculus go more like
oculus stop

[warm pagoda]

IT was the best entrance vr and the cheapest, not everyone has like 300-400 dollarts just in thier pocket

also spelln't ^

[rancid jewel]

spelling things properly is for nerds

[steep turtle]

oculus quest isn't "bad"

[rancid jewel]

it's just somewhat limited because standalone

[plucky furnace]

your right

[vocal shard]

A bit laggy at times but it’s really good

[steep turtle]

yeah, thats the only downside i see really

[warm pagoda]

dollarts

[vocal shard]

Onestly bro 😎

[rancid jewel]

[warm pagoda]

Yeah i felt so free with the 6 (somethings, i forgot what they are called) of movement

[steep turtle]

6 dof?

[rancid jewel]

I think dof stands for definition of field or something

[woeful spoke]

Hopefully tonight most people will have updated because man the worlds are still really bad due to the amount of people not updated XD

[rare dust]

anybody notice any shader issues after the update?

[woeful spoke]

How so?

[rancid jewel]

no

[warm pagoda]

yea, degree of freedom is what it's called

[rancid jewel]

close enough

[rare dust]

rim light and shadows don't seem to be working anymore

[warm pagoda]

Switching from 3 to 6 dof is sooo good

[woeful spoke]

Interesting I have not seen that but havent really been looking for it.

[rancid jewel]

new 9 dof technology
now you can be omnipresent

[warm pagoda]

What would the 3 other dof even mean or do

like i can jump and crouch

[rancid jewel]

track between time and space

[warm pagoda]

0-o pog

[vocal shard]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 26505 users in VRChat currently

[vocal shard]

[rancid jewel]

[warm pagoda]

i thought it was at least another 0 more popuar 💀

[jagged tide]

Any one having issues with vrchat?

[vocal shard]

nope

[woeful spoke]

Yeah I am calling the update a success for loading avatars and connections its much much more responsive and faster to load less intensive as well from my tests here.

[jagged tide]

Like I can’t see any of my friends

[rancid jewel]

probably because they haven't updated yet

[jagged tide]

Well shoot

Thx

[rare dust]

yeah, rim light and shadows no longer work if a world doesn't have realtime lights lmaoooooo

hopefully a bug

[covert chasm]

Which shader? Every shader implements a different way of doing that.

[rare dust]

Xiexe's

[covert chasm]

🤔

@severe lily i summon ye

[woeful spoke]

uh oh

[warm pagoda]

Aight. thanks, i'll hop worlds and see what happens!

[woeful spoke]

Summoned

[covert chasm]

Its very possible that the graphics tweak could cause issues

[warm pagoda]

I would like to create worlds too but i'm pretty sure it costs money if i;m correct??

[rare dust]

maybe its because its an old version of the shader, but the version wasn't a problem before the update

[covert chasm]

I don't know the deets, but I imagine if we shoved TCL and Xiexe into a box together a solution would come out

[woeful spoke]

Saness there are tons of videos on youtube how to make worlds

Not necessarily expensive unless you comission someone if you put your hard work in its free

[warm pagoda]

lol i just found a video when searcvhing up if i have to generally pay

[rare dust]

I'm just hoping it isn't a problem with the shader, got over 100 avis with it

[warm pagoda]

i guess i'm on my own cause i'm sure commisons are asked for alot it;'s fine, imma have fun creating a bad world

[flat torrent]

I am having trouble trying to join friends in Friends, Friends + and Private instances. When I join, I am all alone in the instance but my friends aren't and yet they still show in social in the same instance.

[crystal fossil]

That was actually really cool of you guys to acknowledge the loss of subanimator state behaviors. I hadn't seen you guys make a statement like that before. Appreciate it.

[woeful spoke]

@warm pagoda my friends started making worlds with no experience some of them have some awesome worlds its just your imagination and putting it into the Unity Builder

@flat torrent your friends likely have not updated yet

[warm pagoda]

Wonder what ic ould do with some friends :pog:

I wasnt trying to use the emote, CLYDE

[flat torrent]

Probably as I did update my game before launching.

[woeful spoke]

Yeah if you join on sessions and no one is there yet you know its same instance that is the problem there. A lot of people have not yet updated yet as its an evening update XD

[carmine nebula]

This is why I make VRC a high priority for updates

[woeful spoke]

Yuuuup

[warm pagoda]

I dont use VRC if we talking VRC+ i guess

[vast tulip]

it's free to make your own world

[warm pagoda]

pog

[tulip lichen]

this vrc update combined with that nvidia VR hotfix coming soon is going to be sooooo nice

[harsh flax]

I'd love to know which SDK is better and why?
SDK version 2
Or
SDK version 3

[noble depot]

@harsh flax They're used for different things - SDK2 is probably a bit easier to learn, SDK3 is notably more flexible
One's not strictly better than the other - they're two seperate, but parallel SDKs

[rare dust]

SDK3 is harder but has more features

[real sluice]

why is that parameter saving feature on by default for avatars before the new upadate ? that fucks up quite alot for me......

[harsh flax]

This is true as well as SDK 2 has more tutorials

[vast tulip]

SDK2 is deprecated and won't be getting any new features. SDK3 has udon that lets you do so much more and is the current SDK being worked on

[harsh flax]

I plan to use SDK 2 temporary until 3 has more tutorials and bit more stable

[mild wedge]

Hello

[strong stream]

Is anyone else experiencing A glitch where you accept an invite from a friend And are loaded into a new instance by youself

[light acorn]

A new update was announced. So either you need to update or they need to update.

[vocal shard]

yeah Id just learn and build a few worlds in sdk2 for now just to learn

[strong stream]

trying unistall reinstall my steam says it's up to date

[light acorn]

If your game is up to date then that probably means your friend(s) hasnt updated yet

[patent python]

What are the dumb looking diamond avatar things?

[pale knot]

Is anyone familiar with a fix for not being able to click agree to terms of service? Sorry if this is the wrong place

[vocal shard]

It's the avatars loading.

[patent python]

The avatar I’m playing should already be loaded

[strong stream]

then all my friends don't have the update cause it's doing this with all my friends wrather I accept an invite or join off of them into the instance they're in

[patent python]

And also why is the ping going so high up?

[rancid jewel]

game runs a LOT better after latest update, nice!

[vocal shard]

I am waiting to try it

[patent python]

I can play without the update unless it updated in the background

I shouldn’t be getting more than 200png and I know it’s neither my connection or my computer

[vocal shard]

Are there tons of avatars around you/are you in a big world?

[languid beacon]

Not when the game updates, or, if it's not your avatar, after they updated it.

[patent python]

I was in a world with more than 20 people

[vocal shard]

Then that could be the source of lag. Look at your safety settings

[languid beacon]

When was the last time you closed the game and re-lauched it? It updated about an hour ago, so your game will stop working correctly until you update it.

[languid beacon]

Your instance will continue to work fine, however, you will not see any users that are on the new version, and eventually, problems will start creeping up until you update as well.

[inland acorn]

when i try to open vrchat it says agree to the new terms of service but they dont show up its just a blue circle and the agree is grayed out

[noble depot]

@inland acorn Login to the website and accept the TOS from there, then login in-game c:

[inland acorn]

oki ty

[carmine egret]

Wow finally good update.. 😄 Can't remember the last time good update was released 🤔

[rare dust]

define good update lol

most updates have been good recently

[carmine egret]

That did/added/fixed something actually useful

[sterile summit]

This update removed an advance 3.0 system that avatar creators used

They don't seem happy

[carmine egret]

Yea I heard..

But the other stuff they added/fixed is quite good

[rare dust]

the new update also messed with some shaders, but I think they'll be looking into that too

[warm pagoda]

what happened in the update? kinda didnt understand it

[sterile summit]

From my understanding a touch type system for 3.0 was removed that a lot of good avatar creators used for cool stuff

[carmine egret]

My GPU usage went down to 30% from around 40-50% (on desktop).. which is quite nice

[sterile summit]

Maybe my GPU will go from 99% to uh... not that

[carmine egret]

xD

[sterile summit]

I use oculus so I'm able to cap my frames to 45 from the debug menu, so that helps

[carmine egret]

Yea my GPU when in VR is on 99% too usually 🙂

[severe lily]

I was summoned

What is going on

[muted wharf]

something something tupper

[carmine egret]

Using Index with high refresh rate set and high res.. Soo GPU is going crazy when I play 😄

[noble depot]

the Tuppiest of them all hath summoned thou

thee and thou are different

[muted wharf]

#vrchat-general-2 message

That specifically

[severe lily]

It's always Tupper, alright lemme have a look see

[carmine egret]

😄

[muted wharf]

[carmine egret]

You ||GOD|| with custom emojis permission.. 😄 :/

[rare dust]

noticed a difference with how shaders worked after the most recent update, tupper pinged after I said it was yours

[muted wharf]

Wait is that not a thing in this channel?

[rare dust]

sorry to bother, albeit indirectly

[muted wharf]

[carmine egret]

no

[muted wharf]

[severe lily]

Rimlight and shadows not working doesn't really make sense unless the shader failed to load a compiled variant for whatever reason, but I'd imagine it would turn pink if that was the case. I'll look into it when I actually get up and see

[carmine egret]

:pepe-sad:

[muted wharf]

i shall continue to use emojis here as much as possible

[severe lily]

[rare dust]

alright, I also heard that they tweaked some stuff on their end in terms of shaders, so it may also be a vrc bug

[mild wedge]

Hello I’m eddievr

[severe lily]

Maybe, tupper's right tho, if I go bug tcl it'll probably get fixed

[rare dust]

hopefully lol. if I do end up having to change/update the shader Imma be reuploading avatars for a week straight

[severe lily]

Out of curiosity, which version of the shader are you using?

And also does the newest version have the same problem on a fresh upload?

There have been times where shaders break until re-uploaded for whatever reason.

[mellow hedge]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 26252 users in VRChat currently

[rare dust]

not sure, where can I check the version?

[severe lily]

On the top of the material inspector it will tell you

Should say XSToon vX.X.X

[rare dust]

v2.2.1

been using it for a while so it is very possible that it's just old, but it hasn't been an issue until the patch

[severe lily]

Hmm, I'll check the newest version tonight and ping you later when I have found some results

[rare dust]

lemme try a fresh upload as well

[mortal viper]

anyone know why i cant agree to the terms of service for vrchat?

[severe lily]

Oh, it's also possible that with the animator changes, something you have is affecting the material properties in an unexpected way. @rare dust

So poking around with that is also a good idea

[warm pagoda]

So how exactly does creating the world work? you place things, you give them some type of aspects, Or when "blank" touches a "blank", "blank" if "blank"?

[rare dust]

alright, I'll take a look into it too

[noble depot]

Login to the website and accept the TOS there, then login ingame c:

[noble depot]

I'd recommend checking out the VRChat documentation, especially pages like https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/worlds c:

[rare dust]

another thing that I wanted to note is that my friend was having issues with a particle shader as well, which points toward vrc bug a lil more

[mortal viper]

Thank you very much

[noble depot]

yw! c:

[warm pagoda]

I think i'm going to create an AOT style world but with laser guns

[rare dust]

alright, a fresh upload and removing the animator (idle blinking animation using shapekeys if thats what you meant, if it isn't lmk) still results in the same issue, I can try using the most recent version and see if that changes anything

[warm pagoda]

aww

[pliant orchid]

Anyone looking to play? I'm new to vr chat so idk what to do or where to go to do that cool big roleplaying stuff

[warm pagoda]

Shin zo wou sasgeyo?

ah

I've heard that opening hundreds of times but i still didnt get that right 💀

Sometimes i think OP5 < OP3 but also the other way around

they both sooo good

Levi: breathes "hey ere-
Fans: AAAAAAA

[drifting adder]

Does anyone know the name of that one hide and seek world that takes a picture of your avatar and makes duplicates in a field?

[royal vine]

hi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKEwG6mZN1Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9011rmnglI

jajaja

[vocal shard]

?

[torpid cradle]

I’m having a problem with vrchat. when i play in vr it will only let me play with my mouse and keyboard and wont let me play with my controllers is there a way to fix this

can someone help me

[mortal viper]

anyone know the best VRchat settings cuz when im using my vr headset for it it looks like crap

[keen wren]

Looking for anyone to play vrc with... I'm a quest user though >.<

[rare dust]

@severe lily sorry for pinging again, but updating the shader to the newest (I believe 2.2.4) fixes the issues I was having! Sorry for all the trouble. I'm not sure if the same can be said for other shaders that allegedly were having issues of your own, but 2.2.4 doesn't seem to be affected by the update

[astral depot]

Hi

[modern niche]

Wym it looks like crap?

[rare dust]

Time to update over 100 avatars

[mortal viper]

its very laggy and voices keep cutting out and just looks weird

[keen wren]

Hihi

[modern niche]

What VR headset are you using?

[mortal viper]

Oculus Quest 2

didnt mean to reply

[keen wren]

Lol you're all good

[modern niche]

I would honestly have no idea for the quest. As far as I know there's not really a lot of settings you can change? At least not in VRChat itself

[keen wren]

I like how chill the chat is despite the number of people on

[plush ravine]

https://www.twitch.tv/si1verwo1f14

come watch means a lot

[keen wren]

#shameless-self-promotion

[normal yew]

anyone having issues logging in? its stuck on the terms of service

[keen wren]

I'm about to log in, so I'll let you know if I do. What headset are you using?

[normal yew]

uh just a hyperx cloud

[zenith tiger]

i cant log on as well

[normal yew]

but im using a razer siren mic. the game just wont load. its stuck on terms of service and the agree button isnt lit up

[keen wren]

Oh... I'm using a Quest 1. But I'll let you know if I have issues or not.

[normal yew]

rip

[noble depot]

@normal yew @zenith tiger Login on the website and accept the TOS from there, then login ingame c:

[zenith tiger]

ahh ok!

[normal yew]

bet ty!

worked

[noble depot]

yw y'all! c:

[zenith tiger]

ahh where do you accept it?

on the site

[languid beacon]

Just FYI you don't need to update to use persistence!

[noble depot]

I think it should pop up after you log in, I think?

[rare dust]

persistence?

[noble depot]

AV3 parameter settings now carry over between instances

[white bobcat]

So is the new patch that went live today the one with supposidly significant performance increases? Not able to try it out yet.

[languid beacon]

Don't know what reason you are needing to update 100 avatars, just figured I'd say in case that's why

[rare dust]

nah, graphic tweaks broke an old version of a shader I was using

[noble depot]

yis! haven't personally tried it but yeah, a lot of people are reporting perf improvements

[languid beacon]

[zenith tiger]

i dont see where to accept the tos-

[rare dust]

yeah, no getting around that

[noble depot]

Try refreshing the site and/or logging out and back in again o:

[zenith tiger]

i did😳

[noble depot]

that's odd lol, I don't exactly know what else recommend in that case

you could try logging out, clearing your cookies & history for the past couple hours, then logging back in again?

[jagged turtle]

are you guys getting the same issue?

it wont let me read TOS nor let me press Agree at all

[noble depot]

@jagged turtle Log in to the website and accept the TOS from there, then login ingame

[jagged turtle]

alright lemme try that

what if i signed in with my oculus account? do i just put the oculus account or steam?

cause it did the same thing to me on steam as well

[noble depot]

ah, in that case you'd have to make a VRChat account and use that, and/or merge your Oculus and VRChat account
unfortunately if you can't accept the TOS though, you won't be able to merge so waiting might be your option

also just wondering, was the TOS updated recently or is there just an oddly high number of people joining VRChat today? o:

[jagged turtle]

it was updated recently

havent played vrchat in a while so i was confused to see i had to do TOS again

[noble depot]

ah, you might have last played before VRC+ was a thing, the TOS got updated then

That was vv early december, I think

[lunar void]

gotta love how i cant join friends once again

[jagged turtle]

well i think i fixed the issue

its actually loading me in

[dusk wagon]

how?

[vocal shard]

Magic

[glossy grove]

my friend hasent linked his account yet so he cant go through the website what now

[lime hare]

hey there! my friend is having trouble agreeing to the ToS on pancake, it just sits on a circle in the box and a greyed out continue button

anything that can be done

[noble depot]

@lime hare Log in to the website and accept the TOS there, then login ingame c:

[lime hare]

will try, thanks for the advice

[glossy grove]

my friend has the same problem but his account isnt linked is there anything he can do?

[noble depot]

yw!
@glossy grove Unfortunately waiting might be his only option, since you have to be in-game to make a merge token

[glossy grove]

damn that sucks

[hoary lake]

Hey everyone, having a weird issue

Can't click Agree on the Services/terms conditions page to get in to the game

just greyed out 😦

[lime hare]

everyone is having that issue

regretfully

[hoary lake]

ah.

so just a game glitch and not me atm

[lime hare]

yeah

[pliant orchid]

hey am i able to use this in vr chat as a character model?

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/tahm-kench-in-wonderland-76e7b33b331e4672a88ae59783797239

[rancid jewel]

possibly

[vocal shard]

looking for some one to play with im bored and im new to this game im 15 male

[deep pollen]

anyone else having login issues?

via steam

[vocal shard]

no

[jagged turtle]

no

[deep pollen]

huh.

[vocal shard]

its probably bc your name is 404

[deep pollen]

my internets running fine, ive restarted my pc and oculus + steam as well as unplugged my headset. im confused on why steam vrc sits on a black screen as if its loading after i log in.

ha ha ha funny >:(

[vocal shard]

also what the h e c c o is your pfp

[deep pollen]

my boyfriend told me to wear it

[vocal shard]

s e d

[deep pollen]

idk i just listened

huh

[vocal shard]

d a n g

my new favorite word is h e c c o

[deep pollen]

lol

[vocal shard]

wtf

Wtf?!

[rancid jewel]

[vocal shard]

that pfp is totaly not allowewd

[rancid jewel]

how has this person not been thrown into space yet

[vocal shard]

Can you change your pfp. I don't think anyone wants to see your boyfriend smacking your bum. @deep pollen

[tough zinc]

Hi, I’m new here

[vocal shard]

Hello

[tough zinc]

Hey

Hru

[vocal shard]

I'm okay

[tough zinc]

Thas good

[haughty spindle]

hey peeps

[vocal shard]

Heyo

[haughty spindle]

heyooo

[rancid jewel]

heya

[haughty spindle]

lol

who is hanging around then at this early time

[rancid jewel]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 21976 users in VRChat currently

[rancid jewel]

around 21 thousand people are

[nocturne shore]

Ok I know this isn’t the right channel but it’s completely impossible to create a vrchat account at the moment. Literally every name is taken

Anyone got any ideas on what the problem is? I’ve also seen multiple people with the same issue

[rancid jewel]

try making an account later
if that doesnt work then the name is probably actually taken by a user that exists

[nocturne shore]

No but the thing is everything is taken

Even when I mash the keyboard it’s taken

Completely random names are taken

[rancid jewel]

weird, try making an account later.

[mint plank]

hi

[vocal shard]

public ban ??

[mint plank]

How can i create a account all names are taken and i try putting a new mail and says that is taken what can i do?

[robust thunder]

You're trying to create a VRChat account and every name is taken?

[mint plank]

Yes i just cant

[noble depot]

You might want to send in a ticket to #vrchat-support and see if they can help? o:

[keen crescent]

F

[noble depot]

alternatively waiting could help, if it's a serverside issue

[robust thunder]

Lmao, pawn it off. That's a solid idea

[keen crescent]

My guy tried so many names prolly, best of luck poor soul

[fresh escarp]

The sdk3 update is sexy

[noble depot]

def not trying to do that! it's just (very, very likely) a serverside issue and someone else was having a very similar issue recently

I'd help if I knew how lol

[fresh escarp]

just updated everything in my project, love it so much.

[robust thunder]

Lmao, do you just keep editing that for reassurance?

[mint plank]

yea because i was so hyped because it was my first time playing and i cant create an acount xd

[noble depot]

I'm sorry lol
I'm not a developer and I don't have knowledge of what's going on on VRChat's end of the server, so I don't want to declare something as fact if I don't know it lol

[last badge]

Anyone up for hangin out?

[weary cypress]

You can instead use steam and not need to make an account. @mint plank

[nocturne shore]

Steam doesn’t work either

[weary cypress]

Prob server side issues i suppose

[nocturne shore]

There is literally no way to make an account rn

[weary cypress]

although logging in is absolutely fine.

[mint plank]

Yea you’re right

[nocturne shore]

I have the same problem

I think they messed something up with the accounts servers

[weary cypress]

Don't assume and just give it some time

[mint plank]

Well i hope during the day i can create an account

[vocal shard]

[weary cypress]

update just kick in and the server is probably overloaded.

[nocturne shore]

Yeah I think the only thing we can do is wait

[vocal shard]

yo i kno its unlikely someone from the vrc team will see this rn but yall popped off with the performance adjustments, getting more frames than the previous patch

[mint plank]

Yes and being a person who speaks Spanish it is more difficult to understand all the information or other things

[robust thunder]

Thank god for Google translate

[placid umbra]

@vocal shard Glad to hear it!

[vocal shard]

[placid umbra]

Also we're aware of issues with registration and people are looking into the issue

[vocal shard]

May I have a virtual headpat

[robust thunder]

No

[vocal shard]

[robust thunder]

[placid umbra]

@nocturne shore @mint plank The issue should be fixed now!

[robust thunder]

Why thank you Almighty Aev

[fleet dew]

I love getting random DMs from trolls on this server woohoo

[robust thunder]

I haven't gotten one yet

[fleet dew]

The persons name was Cyber Johnny or something

a good laugh

[vocal shard]

Same thing happened to someone else not too long ago from the same person.

[fleet dew]

saying they accidently reported you on steam and your account was going to be banned for accidental illegal purchase?

[vocal shard]

No, They said something sexual to the person

[robust thunder]

Firstly, I feel like steam would notify you if such a thing actually happened

[fleet dew]

yeah thats why I didn't fall for it xD

[fleet dew]

ah yeah classic troll

how are they still in this server?

[robust thunder]

Lmao, I got the same one a while back about a steam report

[fleet dew]

luckily under privacy settings you can turn off DMs from people in the server

[placid umbra]

Got a screenshot of the dm?

[robust thunder]

I like getting dm'd from randoms

[placid umbra]

@fleet dew

[vocal shard]

I have a screenshot of what the guy said to someone

Also, There's another troll

[placid umbra]

go ahead and post screenshots for a sec

[fleet dew]

do you want me to dm you them?

[placid umbra]

might not work, you should be able to post in #general-media

or drop them on imgur and post a link here

these steam scammers have been popping up daily and it's getting old

[fleet dew]

done

[vocal shard]

Aev, If you scroll up a bit in random chat, There's another person that should be banned

[fierce briar]

If only it was a 30% frame increase across all devices and not strictly amd

😩

[robust thunder]

Huh?

[fleet dew]

someone say amd?

[placid umbra]

It's not just a boost for AMD, from the testing I've seen

[robust thunder]

Lmao

Is this from the update?

I forgot to read it

[fleet dew]

giggles in Ryzen 9 simply for vrchat xD

[rapid laurel]

very confused to why its not keeping me logged in after not playing for only 13 hours

[robust thunder]

Maybe it's cuz of the update

[rapid laurel]

possibly but its been happening to me this past week

[robust thunder]

I dunno, I haven't had the time to get on since it came out

[rapid laurel]

almost every time i open the game i need to log in

[fleet dew]

the website just hates me

[robust thunder]

The whole weak?

What do you play on?

[rapid laurel]

I use a password manager and have to take my headset off to copy paste

pc/steamvr

[placid umbra]

There was an ongoing issue that would cause people to need to sign back in too often, I think it's mostly been fixed but there might be some extra improvements to make

[robust thunder]

Hmmmm, for me it's if I log in before 24 hours it keeps me logged in

[rapid laurel]

it definitely hasnt been that long

[placid umbra]

Also, you can merge a Steam/Oculus (or both) account to get one-button sign in

which is nice for VR

[robust thunder]

True true

[vocal shard]

noted

[fleet dew]

my issue with the website is I cant stay logged on for more than a few seconds

[robust thunder]

Welp, y'all have fun. It's like 1 am and I gotta get up at 7:30 so goodnight

[rapid laurel]

How do you do that when logged in with a vrchat account? is this something I should go to the website to do or

[vocal shard]

Gn!

[stray quest]

ayo is anyone stuck on the vrchat terms and service

[vocal shard]

Yeah, I've seen people report that issue

[placid umbra]

We are working on a fix for the ToS issue and should have a fix out early tomorrow

[stray quest]

hey its happening to my friend aswell, its just a blue circle with dashed lines around it

ah thank you

[fleet dew]

bless

[placid umbra]

In the meantime, you can sign into the VRChat website and accept the ToS there, if you're using a VRChat account

[vocal shard]

[fleet dew]

cuz right now if I had a dollar for every time I had to do that I could buy and Index and maybe a Vive with full body for each

[stray quest]

god bless you aev

[rapid laurel]

nice

[placid umbra]

@rapid laurel https://help.vrchat.com/kb/article/24-i-want-to-turn-my-steam-oculus-account-into-a-vrchat-account/#:~:text=Please log into VRChat with,screen to link your accounts.

[fleet dew]

now dats a link and a half

[rapid laurel]

but to get the link code i need to log in to vrc through steam which I cant to because the tos wont load

rip

[placid umbra]

Oh.

Yeah, in that case it's probably best to wait until the patch goes out

[rapid laurel]

oh nice now i just cant play because it auto logs me in through my steam account

and i cant accept tos

[fleet dew]

I had to change my email and password to get the site to work for more than 2-3 minutes

[placid umbra]

@rapid laurel You can uninstall and reinstall VRChat, which is probably the easiest way to clear the login

[rapid laurel]

Cancel button was just a pain to hit cause it loaded so fast

[placid umbra]

If your internet isn't the best for doing that quickly, there are other steps that could be done instead

[rapid laurel]

But I got it

[placid umbra]

Oh, if you could cancel that's perfect

[rapid laurel]

yeah just didnt even notice the first time cause it went by too quick

Well i guess ill do that when its fixed

[tender fulcrum]

God I hate the bug where if you go into your steamvr menu, sometimes when you come back it just lags like crazy and becomes unplayable

Still dont know any other fix than lowering resolution, restarting vrc/steamvr or it fixing itself by chance

[glossy thunder]

Hey so just got my desktop setup and have the quest 2, using the link cable and the mic isn't being picked up in vr chat? It's set as the default audio device, any idea what's happening?

[boreal rose]

anyone having the issue of not being able to click 'agree' on the vrchat privacy policy thing

[rapid laurel]

now if only I knew why I was known and not trusted with 1200 hours and avatars uploaded :p

[boreal rose]

i cant even play cause agree is greyed out

[vocal shard]

Yep.

They're fixing that issue

[boreal rose]

oh ok

[vocal shard]

^

[boreal rose]

ty!!

[rapid laurel]

thanks though Aev

[sly bison]

how significant is the reduced gpu time

[rapid laurel]

last thing im sure you guys already know about is the friends list being painfully slow to load on startup

[sly bison]

this matters cause im literally running a index on a 1060 LOL

not for me?

[placid umbra]

Depends on the system, the average for someone who did a ton of testing on the open beta was a 37% improvement in fps

[rapid laurel]

it actually appears to not be loading at all. goin on about 5m now

i think it has something to do with logging in using your username and pass vs auto login because on restart it nearly immediately loaded

[vocal shard]

is there a way to turn off parameter persistence?

[keen cloud]

what internet speed (mbps) do yall recommend for vrchat to run relatively normallu? Im currently running at 108mbps...

[regal furnace]

mbit/s or MB/s?

[keen cloud]

bits

[regal furnace]

either way it should be fast enough and is quite a lot faster than what i have

[keen cloud]

[mild wedge]

I’m eddievr

[vocal shard]

Nice

[mild wedge]

[vocal shard]

[vapid coyote]

Any way the developers could make a better settting to report players. Specially a option to report under age players because going to a player I don’t see a Option and from the menu there is a report world but not players

[vocal shard]

For reports like that, it's better to send in a ticket from the website. That way you can write a detailed report and attach any proof if you have it

[vapid coyote]

So on the vrchat website there is a place to make a report and attach video if I record for under kids that are under 13?

[vocal shard]

http://help.vrchat.com/new

Here

[vapid coyote]

Cool will save that link.

[vocal shard]

[celest narwhal]

Got a rift s and it hates my laptop.

Gonna have to return it cuz it refuses to work.

[vocal shard]

What do you mean ot refuses to work?

Is it not turning on or is your laptop just way to weak to be able to run it correctly?

[patent python]

Why has the sitting feature stopped working?

[vocal shard]

Why did Vrchat need and update?

what the point

if updates are less than 5 mb

you prefer a 50 gb update every time ?

yeah better when updates are small

also about size of VRChat, I always wondered how small it is and how they packed all necessary stuff

like, I know that worlds are downloaded during game when you first visit them, but those are small sizes and most avatars are 1 mb

[eternal jolt]

Hello everyone, so i installed steam and i want to play vrchat. But the scene where i have to accept the terms of use and stuff it just dont do anything if i click 'accept'.

[vocal shard]

My VRChat once crashed ingame

some person said that "his gun gonna crash the game" or something and it just crashed my Intel Drivers

[eternal jolt]

Its not crashing for me

[vocal shard]

is that something I should worry about

[open crescent]

If you have GPU earlier than Nvidia 1000 series, the hardware is incompatible for VR in general. (For example 970m or such)

[eternal jolt]

But i just cant press ''accept'. What should i do?

[vocal shard]

gtx 970?

[eternal jolt]

Can someone help?

Did someone had this problem?

[vocal shard]

thats fun becuase my Graphic card is actually NVIDIA GeForce® GTX 970 and most games new 1080

[open crescent]

Read the messages above and you will see a long conversation about it

[open crescent]

That's not a laptop

[eternal jolt]

Wut

[vocal shard]

sur but, isn't 970 a bad graphic card to todays standards?

most games need a 1080

[open crescent]

Yes

[vocal shard]

it's starting to get very outdated yes

[open crescent]

But the hardware problem specifically is with laptops

[vocal shard]

its that good that it was bought like 5 years ago

for not small amount of money

[open crescent]

Before the 1000 series the laptop GPUs were different than the desktop versions and they are incompatible with vr

[vocal shard]

does Nvidia still produce GTX cards or they focus on RTX?

its says on Nvidia page that GTX cards are "others/olders"

[modern hill]

ayaya

[modern hill]

most of those r compatible with wmr

actually

[north tapir]

Ur telling me there’s 171,000 people in this server and there’s been 1 msg since last week

[modern hill]

lol wut

[open crescent]

are you sure? it is a hardware problem, not software

[vocal shard]

is pro builder nesessary for making vrchat world or its just a addon

[modern hill]

well it doens't work with oculus or vive but wmr works

[vocal shard]

like, I have a unity project that contain a place and I could port it to vrchat easily?

[open crescent]

(the problem is that those laptops have an integrated GPU AND a discrete GPU, and the external video output goes through the integrated GPU which makes it incompatible

[modern hill]

i know

lol but wmr still works

[open crescent]

when you say wmr which headset are you referring to

and which card did you test it with?

[vocal shard]

whats generic measure for vrchat character?

[modern hill]

u just gotta check if it's nvidia optimus compatible that's all

[open crescent]

I thought not a single vr headset was optimus compatible, which one is?

a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one

[modern hill]

i have a friend using the odissy +

[open crescent]

although I don't have that card anymore hto

is it good? that one

[modern hill]

i guess it's decent, but like tracking is probably u know, but the screens r really good according to him

[vocal shard]

is worth to buy index

or its only fancy hand controllers

[open crescent]

index is very, very good, can recommend

[vocal shard]

what about weight and cables

[open crescent]

also you can expand to full body tracking afterwards with ease because you will already have the base stations

cables are a pain in the ass, such is the price to be paid but it's worth it in my opinion

[vocal shard]

hows full tracking body is like in vrchat

[open crescent]

awesome

[vocal shard]

I actually would be insterested in mouth tracking

if this exist

[open crescent]

there's lipsync

you don't need vr for that

[modern hill]

that's audio based though so u can't smile and stuff without using gestures

[open crescent]

yep, that's the only thing you get

[vocal shard]

sure but doesn't lipsynch depends of the voice quality?

[open crescent]

there is no face tracking, eyetracking, or mouth tracking in vrchat

just lipsync

[vocal shard]

oh, beuase you know it looks weird when you laught

[modern hill]

make a gesture then

[vocal shard]

gesture are custom animations right?

[modern hill]

yes,

[vocal shard]

becuase I just recently started with vrchat and I kinda enjoy it

[full ibex]

You can attach custom animations to hand gestures or to the expressions menu

[modern hill]

awe

[vocal shard]

where I can find basic avatar measurement for unity?

like, a generic character

to compare things

[modern hill]

just grab an avatar off a website or something and compare

[vocal shard]

like those free vrchat ones?

[modern hill]

i guess most avatars r like 1.40 lol

[full ibex]

I mean just adjust it to a real height

[open crescent]

just think in meters

[vocal shard]

I head that 2 meters are two unity cubes

but dunno if thats true

[open crescent]

1 meter is 1 unit in Unity

[vocal shard]

are blendshapes based on animations?

or blandshapes are shape keys?

[open crescent]

I suggest you read up on the basics of animations in order to understand that

[vocal shard]

becuase I am kinda confused there been so much naming

yeah I know what are shape keys

its just somewhat like "manipulating vertexes"

so just vertex animations that is used for things such as lipsynch

anyway what does means "Visitor Poor" on other people head?

[modern hill]

it means their the visitor rank and their avatar is poor, in performance rating

[vocal shard]

most people have "medium" rating

[open crescent]

i wish that was true

[modern hill]

most people have very poor

[open crescent]

lol

[modern hill]

and 8k textures to kill ur vram

[vocal shard]

isn't it said in vrchat tutorial that every vrchat avatar should be less than 10,000 verticles?

[modern hill]

no

u can use as many as u want

[open crescent]

I think Quest allows up to 30,000

(before auto-hiding it)

[modern hill]

there is no limit

true

[open crescent]

PC allows up to 70,000 before rating as Very Poor

[vocal shard]

below 70,000 triangles

what if does have 70,000 and 1 triangles

[open crescent]

very poor

[modern hill]

most avatars r like 140k

[vocal shard]

why

[modern hill]

these days

[open crescent]

it's over 70,000, do the math

[vocal shard]

I mean, why are like 140k

[open crescent]

they don't optimize

[vocal shard]

dunno you can sometimes make a 140k avatar that looks like a 5,000 one

so thats weird

[open crescent]

that would be a very shitty avatar then

[modern hill]

because they want the extra detail, and like most pll r being lazy and just connecting the meshes in unity, and have like 50 materials since they don't wanna use blender

[broken plover]

some people just put together meshes without editing them to optimzie. So for example, they us a highly detailed base avatar wich already has like 50k, and then they put highly detailed clothes on it. And instead of atleast reducing the polygons under the clothing if they don't want to delete them, they just let the high detail stuff there

[open crescent]

and then you log on to VRChat, get 10 of those, and your fps go to 10

but you can always use the safety settings to hide very poor avatars if you want

[vocal shard]

I don't think there is a point to make 140K avatars

[modern hill]

one of my friends has an avatar that is 200mb in download size and i just told him wtf r u doing

[full ibex]

if only

[open crescent]

ohh yeah I saw a 300 MB avatar once, it was performance blocked as it should be

[vocal shard]

becuase for example, generic male body can be like average or less than 70,000 triangles

[full ibex]

I got my main avatar to "good" performance by eliminating unnecessary meshes

and materials

[vocal shard]

like, if you look on skethfab or something

[oblique spade]

Is anyone else having constant frame drops since the new update?

It wasn't like this previously

[vocal shard]

anyway, does vrchat use own coded base for networking?

becuase I am just curious as a person who tried unity myself

[strange wagon]

trying to find the world/author by avatar name but can't seem to find it hm. all i know is the name of the avatar.

[full ibex]

I assume they're using their own netcode given that they're using their own assembler and VMs for Udon and stuff

[modern hill]

u could technically use normal maps to make it look more detailed than it is with less of a performance hit

[full ibex]

this

[strange wagon]

don't often favorite public avatars but i want that one lol

[pseudo basalt]

vrchat uses photon or whatever it's called for networking

[vocal shard]

does it use photon?

photon pun?

[strange wagon]

does someone know the author of this avatar https://i.imgur.com/TLIMO65.png it's called necro chan

[vocal shard]

isn't that on unity maketplace?

[open crescent]

no

[full ibex]

Normal maps are incredible

[modern hill]

yessss

[full ibex]

They can make quest models look good and make PC models look like their high-def sculpts

[vocal shard]

"Photon Unity Networking (PUN) re-implements and enhances the features of Unity's built-in networking. " its also on unity maketplace

[open crescent]

oh it is? huh

[vocal shard]

yeah photon is on marketplace

[open crescent]

but I think you have to make a contract with photon separately anyway to use it

[vocal shard]

its paid, most assets use it too

[open crescent]

and pay them monthly

[vocal shard]

like, fps assets

and its paid, but free to try

for like 20 people

I though it uses mirror

Mirror Networking – Open Source Networking for Unity

[strange wagon]

nevermind. i found the author

[modern hill]

naisu

[strange wagon]

the dripping halo looks really nice

[vocal shard]

so, does actually it uses photon?

[pseudo basalt]

yes

stock unity solutions for networking are scattered and bad

[vocal shard]

dunno, I heard by my friend experience photon is kinda "well idk"

[open crescent]

unity's integrated networking is famously bad yeah