#vrchat-general-2

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steady vessel
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So i will get in trouble if i post a lemon

slim temple
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and it's being worked on by Octuplex and Minuette Doll!

hollow blaze
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interesting,well I'm going to head out but thanks for telling me about this,I'll keep it in mind guaranteed

slim temple
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there's tons of worlds out there, just type vket in the search bar. Literally close to 100.

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they take something like 20 hours to walk them all, I've done it a few times T.T

hardy mural
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I really need to know more things about vr chat

slim temple
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Hey, that's what people like me are here for

shell bear
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you kinda do. theres more than just edatin' and troll kids + drama :D

hollow blaze
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I just like to seek every nook and cranny of VRChat to experience the horror maps people have made

slim temple
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I haven't popped m yhead in here in a while because i've been working on VRCon and Vket 5, but it's a big day for vrchat and a lot of people have a lot to say

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Us old schoolers have to come say hello and speak our truth now and then

hardy mural
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All I ever done was play among us because most lobbies have like 2 players πŸ˜‚

hollow blaze
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I don't think there are enough,and most of them are all pretty fun to play and fun walk through if you aren't typically scared but enjoy dark,creepy atmospheres

slim temple
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I just like to seek every nook and cranny of VRChat to experience the horror maps people have made
@hollow blaze you won't be dissapointed at all the hundreds of horror avatars you can find at vket and there's lots more to come

pallid wraith
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Really tempted to put on fully body and go check out some of this stuff now, but it's like 3am lol

slim temple
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the clubs? yeah, they're just warming up too

hollow blaze
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brooo bet I'll get on VR and go with you lol,but I'd push you to try some horror maps at 3am lmao

slim temple
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they go until the wee hours of the morning

brooo bet I'll get on VR and go with you lol,but I'd push you to try some horror maps at 3am lmao
@hollow blaze What if I told you I know of horror maps you've never seen

hollow blaze
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sounds like a good time,I'd love to see some more

hardy mural
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I would play horror maps lol

vestal pier
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Guerilla marketing, lhun!!

slim temple
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The book is literally to my left.

vestal pier
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Hahaha

hollow blaze
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wether it's true or not as long as it's somethin I ain't payin a dime for,I'll come check out

slim temple
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but I'm being genuine here, really. lol

hollow blaze
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you won't lull me into buying anything no matter how hard you try kek

vestal pier
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You're paying the electricity bill, does that count?

hollow blaze
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no sir,I have a fixed water and electricity bill

slim temple
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naw I was just going to link you to a japanese horror world

vestal pier
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Big pog.

hardy mural
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I generate my own electricity

slim temple
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HAve you played FlowersRite's horror maps *(those aren't japanese, but they're good!)

hollow blaze
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I can enjoy the luxury of frying myself in scalding hot water for 2 hours everyday if I want

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I'll go jot the name down and check it out

vestal pier
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Check out the brush avatar too! If we are advertising

hollow blaze
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check out this Goya Caramel custard I'm eating,it's quite good

slim temple
hollow blaze
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haha nice now I got more worlds to drag my friends into to torture them hehe

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it'll go nicely when I tell them to turn off nameplates and go into one of my spookatars

sleek sparrow
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my favorite world was this hellscape full of babies and just constant crying in the background i found once

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i like opening portals to it once in a while and seeing who goes in

slim temple
vestal pier
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Oh the brush world? Me too!

pallid wraith
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i gotta go soon but if we're sharing fav worlds. I highly recommend the Ridge Racer world created by Zone, fully working map, cars, everything. It's fantastic πŸ˜„

sleek sparrow
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if you want a real trip, try cirno's nightmare

hollow blaze
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yo fr? send me a link or I'll just search it up or something that sounds cool if it really works!

pallid wraith
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also g2g, cya guys. if you guys ever want to do stuff in VRChat just throw me a friend request on here, but note I'm normally on UK times

hollow blaze
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now if only someone would remake a piece of Underground 2 but as a working game for VRChat lol

dark harness
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You mean Tony Hawk's Pro Skater Underground 2, right?

vestal pier
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I imagine, yes

worthy oracle
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good idea!

ripe hornet
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I want someone to recreate DOOM because someone got it running on a bunch of potatos so why not VRchat lmao

hollow blaze
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someone made Doom 64 in VRC

ripe hornet
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no fucking way

vestal pier
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Someone made working doom on an avatar

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Playable arcade cabinet avatar

slim temple
ripe hornet
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On the topic of maps- I am trying to make one but the "Force Non-VR option" doesn't work lmao

vestal pier
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Unplug your hmd

marsh stump
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So whens the 25-slot increase coming?

ripe hornet
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unplug your hmd

but im lazy 😦 i didnt pay to have to move a miniscule amount of distance

sleek sparrow
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what headset you got? cause i can boot up vrchat in desktop mode with my headset on. but maybe its different cause i have wireless

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but steamvr was still running when i did it

ripe hornet
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Vive lmao

sleek sparrow
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same.

vocal shard
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When life gives you lemons

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Use them to show your hatred for monthly subscriptions

sullen radish
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funny how you have to pay 10 bucks monthly for a custom pfp (that you can only take in vrchat may I mind you, no uploading) but in chilloutvr you don't have to pay and you can upload an actual jpg/png... AND its only in alpha

ruby needle
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Funny @sullen radish
Because not only is VRChat in an alpha stage aswell, but also can you upload a pfp on website for that feature too.

west yoke
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Didn't even bother doing research before being a shill Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

sullen radish
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funny indeed

urban kite
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How is it in alpha if people participate in beta?

ruby needle
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in the beta of a patch.

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The actual alpha's of the patches are non public mostly, and then depending on amount of work needed there a one or a few beta itterations before hitting live

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This doesn't change the actual live game's developement status tho. cirPrise

wicked ferry
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does anyone know why my menu doesn't work when I press and hold the Y button, I can open the menu but it doesn't let me select options, emotes etc >.< I am using quest2 with link cable (tried asking in the other general with no luck >.<)

vestal pier
flat briar
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unfortunately I do not have the Quest 2 so I can't help

tidal marten
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can somebody pls play vrchat with me?

sleek sparrow
hollow ingot
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That'd be the quick and action menu but yeah.

dark hawk
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Yeah work on the beta for your monetization of user created content. Maybe fix the host bug, maybe fix the social list. Maybe not spend HTC Funding on vacations and personal expenses. The simple things πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

wicked ferry
sharp saddle
dark hawk
sullen radish
sharp saddle
west yarrow
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Hey, silly question, since the wording on the Account Link page is a bit weird. Am I able to link multiple accounts, but only one from each platform? i.e. can I link both Oculus and Steam, but only one from each? Or is it one total -- either Steam or Oculus?

vestal pier
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Where is any of this info coming from, neko..

sharp saddle
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The money was used to make HTC look more attractive to consumers.

sleek sparrow
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i thought it was total but no idea

vestal pier
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Just conspiraboomer bullshit, as per.

dark hawk
sleek sparrow
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ah ok so just as blueasis said. got it

vestal pier
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The link lists literally nothing of what you said, cite sources or close your auxiliary breathing oraphice used for communication

sharp saddle
# dark hawk https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/vrchat

Series C Funding
Businesses that make it to Series C funding sessions are already quite successful. These companies look for additional funding in order to help them develop new products, expand into new markets, or even to acquire other companies. In Series C rounds, investors inject capital into the meat of successful businesses, in an effort to receive more than double that amount back. Series C funding is focused on scaling the company, growing as quickly and as successfully as possible.

Sorry for the small wall.

vocal shard
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Wtf is going on

west yarrow
vestal pier
vocal shard
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About what?

sharp saddle
sleek sparrow
sullen radish
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but I will say this, I barely play vrc, and this whole vrc+ thing is honestly so disgusting that i'm more tempted to play chilloutvr, and again, i barely even touch social vr. chilloutvr and vrchat, no difference imo. but the whole fact that you have to pay 10 bucks a month just to have a custom pfp is kinda scummy imo, but it's their game.

vestal pier
vocal shard
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What is that

sharp saddle
vocal shard
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Like quote thing idk how to do that

floral aspen
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Dang, people getting salty over an optional payment

vestal pier
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Imagine

sleek sparrow
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"the whole fact that you have to pay 10 bucks a month just to have this completely optional and inconsequential feature is kinda scummy imo, but its their game"

sharp saddle
vocal shard
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I figured it out lol

sleek sparrow
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doesnt chillout also have a payment option?

vestal pier
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One time fee yes

sleek sparrow
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and what does it provide exactly?

vestal pier
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Not certain

sleek sparrow
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ive seen the chart, but i want croma to answer

ruby needle
floral aspen
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Idk about you guys, but when I'm chilling with friends I know, most of the time I keep nameplates off. I could give 2 shits whether they have a custom one or not

vestal pier
sullen radish
ruby needle
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Im sorry blueasis. cirPls

vocal shard
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Cvr can’t even handle 50+ on a server lol, you all wanna praise the vrchat clones but they are further back in development lol

sleek sparrow
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"ill be sitting in the background with popcorn but still complain" ok

steady vessel
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The fact they banned the shader for nameplates and monitize it is really screwy

sleek sparrow
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that shader allowed people to impersonate devs

dark hawk
# vestal pier Not certain

I know why you like it so much, youre the reason kids get into this game. Go to Vanilla Nekos daycare or the Little Snack Shack.

wicked ferry
sullen radish
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jesus try to make one thing to spark a discussion and people charge you out of being defensive. Toxxxxiccccc, later.

steady vessel
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No cuz you can easilly see by name

vestal pier
vocal shard
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Bruh why do people hate + so much I genuinely dont get it people just see something free involve money and go grrr bad >=(

sleek sparrow
dark hawk
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@vestal pier Has made money from this game that's why he is being so adamant about supporting it

vestal pier
sleek sparrow
vocal shard
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Lol

vestal pier
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I have made money from this game... and?? Hahaha

floral aspen
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They were gonna have to monetize eventually. Did anyone really expect this to stay completely free forever?

sleek sparrow
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man i wish i was getting paid to shill vr chat

vocal shard
sleek sparrow
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i wish i was getting paid to talk about things i like in general

vestal pier
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You're literally just ignoring my points and attacking my character. Very cool 😎

dark hawk
vocal shard
vestal pier
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How dare I make a living 😀

sleek sparrow
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neko accused blue of being a paid shill. i wish i was a paid shill for this game cause i love it and will gladly promote it

wicked ferry
dark hawk
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How dare you attract kids into a game full of pedos

vestal pier
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I'm a character designer. Its my job. I didn't make the meme, but sorry it upsets you

sleek sparrow
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sure samantha

vocal shard
vestal pier
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I made a character that was used in a viral vid how do I have any control over that lol

sleek sparrow
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ok now neko HAS to be trolling. surely they arent actually this stupid

vestal pier
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They're blaming me for my character brush being popular like wow πŸ‘

sleek sparrow
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oh you made that thing? oh god.

vestal pier
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Yes sorry or your welcome, you choose.

dark hawk
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πŸ˜ͺ

sleek sparrow
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i honestly dont even know

vocal shard
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Blueasis just made the character as soon as its public it's not his fault what happens to it

vestal pier
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I'm just a character designer. Nothing to do with me lol

sleek sparrow
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but i guess good job for creating the equivalent of roblox's noob character?

vestal pier
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Thanks i think?

vocal shard
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Bruh

sleek sparrow
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you're welcome i think?

dark hawk
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Its an instant block when people see the character, it will always be a little kid.

vocal shard
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God my sound cloud weekly sucks ass imma kms

sleek sparrow
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damn thats harsh neko

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glad to see you are looking out for the rest of us with your heroic actions

vestal pier
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Neko, next time when your poins are dismantled don't try to attack peoples character, not a good look.

dark hawk
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@vestal pier I dont have to prove my character to a pedo πŸ˜ͺ

vocal shard
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Neko

vestal pier
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Who would that be?

dark hawk
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Anime Nazi Girl

vocal shard
vestal pier
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Guilty by association I guess.

gray cave
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What did I walk in on?

vocal shard
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When the fuck did pedos even become a part of this conversation

vestal pier
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A moron and the choir.

gray cave
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chad

dark hawk
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But you're right, it's a game where people can sit in front of a mirror and touch their peepee with kids around. Great game, great game

sleek sparrow
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neko being a very shitty troll

vocal shard
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And also I take pride in my nazi anime pfp

dark hawk
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πŸ˜ͺ

gray cave
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Oxy is big brain.

vestal pier
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I think they may be projecting..

dark hawk
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Nazis and pedos, nice

vocal shard
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The projections from Neko is crazy

vocal shard
dark hawk
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My point ^^^^^^

sleek sparrow
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im guessing chillout doesnt have mirrors then? since you hate them so much but love chillout

vocal shard
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Yeah so how tf does someone being a pedo in a game relate to any one of us

gray cave
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Just settle this the good ol fashioned way.
A duel.

dark hawk
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I am not going to discuss things with a 15 year old

sleek sparrow
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im 24 but ok

vestal pier
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Guys bad news i have to quit vrc I got called a pedo for being a character designer

west yoke
dark hawk
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No, your character attracts children, and the pedos on this game

sleek sparrow
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rip blue. let the meme live on forever in his memory

vocal shard
vocal shard
vestal pier
dark hawk
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Wow, telling me to kill myself? shame

vocal shard
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Ur a bafoon

sleek sparrow
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actually id say the anime models attract the pedos. lets just say hime kagiyama isnt the most mature looking god of pestilence

dark hawk
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Not a very good show of character

vocal shard
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I dont need to prove shit to you clown

dark hawk
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I am going to block the 15 year old

sleek sparrow
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you do that

vestal pier
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Totally. Go for it.

vocal shard
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Ok dick

dark hawk
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I did πŸ˜„

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Im glad you guys like associating with kids : smile :

sleek sparrow
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and im gonna block the stupid person

vocal shard
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Imagine flexing blocking someone ur a loser

gray cave
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Man, everyone here is very mature, I am enjoying this discord.

vocal shard
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Imagine being so damn insecure about yourself

sleek sparrow
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i mean, i play vr chat. that makes me a pedo AND a loser. score!

vestal pier
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Stretch Armstrong over here, can quite reach far enough

vocal shard
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This person literally just want attention that's why their making these stupid ass hot takes

daring oxide
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i'm just sitting back here eating popcorn watching general devolve into throwing sticks and it's great

sleek sparrow
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yep

gray cave
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It's a meme.

dark hawk
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πŸ˜ͺ

sleek sparrow
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i should be doing homework, or yknow, actually playing vr chat, but here i am

daring oxide
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I should be doing alot more but watching this has become a new side hobby lmfao

vestal pier
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I should be sleeping but how can I sleep knowing I'm attracting kids to the game... can't live with myself man

carmine dew
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imagine paying 100 dollars a year on this game lmao

sleek sparrow
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just turn yourself in to the authorities. you will feel much better

vocal shard
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Neko can eat a fat cock their probably just projecting their own feelings toward children

sleek sparrow
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i mean, i pay that much for a game about clicking circles when i dont have to just to get one click downloads

gray cave
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Damn, this discord gets more mature by the minute.

vestal pier
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Lmao

vocal shard
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Yeah tbh 100 dollars is a lot I feel like they should lower the yearly and monthly price a bit

daring oxide
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You're implying a sense of reason ever existed here

dark hawk
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Funding has been cut πŸ˜ͺ

vocal shard
sleek sparrow
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look, im not a smart man. i bought full body tracking for fuck's sake

dark hawk
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I block his avatars because I know a little kid will be in it

sleek sparrow
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i think it should be known we are all memeing on this neko

dark hawk
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Shame

sleek sparrow
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none of us are taking neko seriously i would hope

fading brook
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Nah

daring oxide
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i'm absolutely not lmao

vestal pier
carmine dew
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Isn't vrchat made E for everyone? I dont see what this discussion is even about im so dumbfounded

vocal shard
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Neko really wants to be the center of attention

fading brook
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This is just funny to watch

vocal shard
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We should just ignore them

gray cave
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Shut up you just got here. @fading brook

sleek sparrow
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well cats do love attention

fading brook
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Because of u, dumbass.

carmine dew
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I came in here to make fun of the new subscription that's being set up but im just laughing reading what's going on

gray cave
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Yes, but you just got here so commit hush.

fading brook
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I'll commit sepuku does that count?

carmine dew
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not unless you hit a vape first

vocal shard
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And the chat has devolved

fading brook
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Sepeku via vape

carmine dew
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then it looks like your ghost is leaving your body

balmy wind
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Cringe

vestal pier
vocal shard
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Says the furry

carmine dew
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imagine being called discount bark and then saying cringe lmfaooo

fading brook
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damn

sleek sparrow
dark hawk
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@vestal pier Enjoy your male pattern baldness πŸ˜ͺ

daring oxide
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Octane ^^^

vocal shard
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Lmao ok that was a pretty good one ngl

vestal pier
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Baldness doesn't run in the family but thanks?

dark hawk
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Your pictures say otherwise

sleek sparrow
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this is my favourite video in a long time

vocal shard
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This person has to be trolling

balmy wind
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Bruh

carmine dew
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they must be trolling

dark hawk
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πŸ˜ͺ

daring oxide
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i'm bald as hell, it's just an addon solar panel for free energy imo

fading brook
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Hell yeah

carmine dew
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this sounds too dumbfounded of a conversation to not even be considered as trolling

dark hawk
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Of course you are lmao

vestal pier
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Pretending to have found pictures of me and lying about my hair isn't very nice

dark hawk
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: smile :

carmine dew
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: smile :

vestal pier
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I take pride in my lucious lockes

vocal shard
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The bot just said to much cap

dark hawk
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Uhhhh, what locks? lmao

gray cave
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Big brain time.

vocal shard
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Lockes as in hair dumbasss

vocal shard
fading brook
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Fair enough

dark hawk
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Dramatic status? Happiness is dramatic πŸ˜ͺ

carmine dew
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you dont sound happy

vestal pier
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Their immediate solution to being shutdown online is to try and dox someone

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Cranium expand

dark hawk
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Im not, Im not happy about caillou over here

vestal pier
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Bro I have considered shaving my head, how you know?

dark hawk
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You should, it would complete the pedo look

sleek sparrow
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im sorry but all i can think of with neko's posts are like some soccer mom facebook user, with all their emoticon usage

daring oxide
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not even GPT-3 could decipher your mechanisms of troll-fu

vestal pier
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Lmao

dark hawk
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Shave the caterpillar off your lip too

vestal pier
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Hahahaha bro I can't grow facial hair u crazy.

dark hawk
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Exactly, so stop trying. It looks bad

vestal pier
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Thats how I know for sure they haven't found my pics

vocal shard
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Lmao

dark hawk
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: smile :

lucid rock
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52 people away from 25,000vrcEretNice pog

vestal pier
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Hair on my face? No funking way.

lavish copper
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poo poo pee pee

dark hawk
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Acne too

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Youre too old to still be having clogged pores like this

sleek sparrow
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ok i gotta ask: why do you keep typing the command for the smile emoji, but with spaces between the word and colons?

vestal pier
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Never in my life. Thanks for the confirmation that you are infact projecting

dark hawk
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True πŸ˜ͺ

vestal pier
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Too old bruh I'm 21

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Get a hobby.

sleek sparrow
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its ok, im 24 and i only started getting acne

daring oxide
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i just went through a year of strong chemotherapy, also killed my acne which was nice, had it chronically. also 21

vestal pier
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I hope I never get it. For real

daring oxide
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I only had it due to a very deep bacterial infection, so you'll probably never get it as you almost usually get it in early days

safe horizon
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Guys how do I walk in firstperson and not move in third person and teleport

sharp saddle
safe horizon
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Ok thanks!

sharp saddle
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No problem.

vocal shard
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Anyone know why my elbows would stop moving side to side, but the arm and hand still moves fine?

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(rift s)

hollow ingot
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Occasionally a controller stops positional tracking ... I restart Oculus x.x

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That's all I got.

vocal shard
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yo i have a question i am running a 1660 with a oculus quest 2 and the game runs fine but after like maybe an hour it just starts to absolutly chug like it freezes and lags and just gives up. anyone know why this might be happening?

west yoke
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I would check temps, it's possible you're running out of memory after some time as well.

vocal shard
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havent checked temps yet what should i use to do that also i have 16g of ram

sharp saddle
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What CPU do you have?

vocal shard
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ryzen 5 2600

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stock cooler

sharp saddle
west yoke
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NZXT Cam should be fine for monitoring temps and basic system info
I personally use HWiNFO64 but for the purpose of temps that's a lot of info.

regal ice
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Where can i find the avatars that I'm looking for?

sharp saddle
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That depends, what avatars are you looking for?

vocal shard
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ight thank you i ma go try that out

regal ice
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the avatars that get super huge when you get loud

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where can i find those

sharp saddle
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Gotta go world-hopping, my dude.

regal ice
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oh

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I just want some funny ones

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What is the thing called when the avatar gets really huge when you get loud?

sharp saddle
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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

regal ice
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oof

vocal shard
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55 on gpu

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how high is that?

west yoke
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That's fine

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Is that when playing a game?

vocal shard
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yeah while in vrc

west yoke
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Well use that to monitor temps and memory usage, see what it get's too after an hour like you were saying earlier

vocal shard
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Still having trouble with the elbows of my avatars not following the same tracking as my hands, using rift s. Tried restarting headset and pc

chrome hinge
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like whe. you rotate your hands, your elbows in game arent where your real elbow is? your real elbow isnt tracked and wont match the virtual one.

vocal shard
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Like if I move my hand to the other side of my body, the hand/wrist move but the elbow is getting stuck/lagging

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yo @west yoke can i dm you my temps and shit from the nzxt cause its still happening and i dont know whats wrong

west yoke
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I imagine you've uninstalled VRChat and ensured nothing was in the installation folder before reinstalling.
As well as clearing cache, right?

hard crypt
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Hey everyone

vocal shard
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yeah havent done the cache yet tho

daring oxide
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@vocal shard So, quest 2 and 1660. how much V-RAM does the 1660 have? i've had lobbies attempt to exceed 8GB of V-RAM a few times before on no safety settings.

west yoke
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It has 6 GB

sharp saddle
vocal shard
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6 i belive

daring oxide
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VRC is great at gobbling up Ram - V-ram, max usage i saw was 12GB of ram & 8.1GB of vram used. Although i play on desktop (for the time being) at 4K so my v-ram usage will be higher by default by a good margin

west yoke
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Though that makes our system specs very similar as I have a R5 2600 and GTX 1660 as well.

daring oxide
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R5 2600 & 5700 XT here

dire kestrel
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5700 xt works well with 2600? I plan switching to this gpu

daring oxide
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Yeah, although it bottle necks at 1080P

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i have to run at 2K for optimal performance

vocal shard
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my card is only going at 60% usage

opal plover
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any one elses audio playing what they here?

daring oxide
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in vrc i'm lucky to see 15/30% usage unless a shader heavy avatar is nearby or am in a complex world. Also a nep, wut?

hard crypt
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How is everyone?

daring oxide
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Good

opal plover
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like the audio in vrc seems bugged like my voice is comming out of 2 of my friends mics

daring oxide
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Odd, is it coming out in like source quality is does it sounds like it's being repeated through a microphone?

opal plover
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seems source quality

daring oxide
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Is this in the beta or base game? if it's in the base, i've heard of this bug before but never experienced it. if you're in beta it seems like a good time for bug report

opal plover
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base

vocal shard
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I guess a better way to explain the issue, if I touch my elbows together, usually they will do the same in-game base on my wrist movement. For some reason it's no longer doing that

edit a lightbulb went out in my friends room, it was too dark to track properly

gritty harbor
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Rest In Peace Rift 12/25/17 - 11/21/20 β€œYou served your purpose well.”
Today marks the day my rift has passed away.

vocal shard
#

hi at all how are you? I introduce myself as Nicole and I am 17 years old and I live in Italy and I wanted to ask you a question. can anyone link where you bought and what you bought to play vrchat? Thank you

ruby burrow
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I initially bought one of the original Vive headsets, which I bought from the Vive website itself. (Is easy to search)
Those particular headsets are no longer sold though.
I later upgraded to a Valve Index, which I bought from Steam, and which is the only place you can buy them other than pre-owned/Ebay.

unique mauve
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I got my Index directly from Steam

vocal shard
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m ok thx ❀️

lucid rock
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May your Rift rest in piece πŸ™ cryptedphone

sharp saddle
#

Hmmm...

obsidian herald
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+cry

vocal shard
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anyone wanna play among us VRchat?

hollow ingot
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It seems to gradually gobble up all of my committed memory(~40GB free) over multiple sessions even... which then causes most things to freeze and some maybe get suspended πŸƒ

sharp saddle
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From a distance: "I think my mom got mad at me for swearing too loud."

steady kayak
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@ruby burrow good call. vive 1 headsets can stop working from just sweating

white warren
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Hello

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@steady kayak wait I just saw you in the emm discord your are like in there

steady kayak
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maybe

white warren
steady kayak
#

i have no idea what i should be seeing there vrcAevSlap

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πŸ™„ uh ok?

#

pretty sure thats for pictures within vrchat itself dude

sharp saddle
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handouts

steady kayak
#

im ok with paying just 10 seems unreasonable. Had made it 2.99 to mayyybe tops 4.99 i would have done it tbh. Then make a donation tier when you give more

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its not like im the only one sharing that sentiment ^^;

rigid jasper
#

Frankly for the price being asked, I'd rather use it for Discord Nitro.

cursive fjord
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It's dumb, it need to either be wayy cheaper. Or make it a one time fee. Tbf, idk why tf it would be a monthly fee. It's a bit dumb, no actually very dumb. Clearly just a money grab. I don't mind supporting the game, but not like this

sleek sparrow
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you are paying for servers and salaries. definitely not one time fees on their end

steady kayak
#

the problem is that you have to combine it with all the already existing subscriptions this gets expensive real fast for many

sleek sparrow
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ok? how is that vrchat's problem?

steady kayak
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and in EU countries you pay another 21~30% vat on it all

rigid jasper
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Comparing it to other services, VRC isn't offering enough for 9.99

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Also US is kinda tanking in economy

sleek sparrow
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they say more is coming. if they make it less then raise the price, people would be even more upset

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its better to start it high than raise the price later

steady kayak
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yes.. like we can get amazon prime here for that price.. or netflix at 4k streaming
I mean I dont have a problem supporting but we still havent seen EU servers among many things. If they did "hey you can pay 2.99 to 4.99 to pay out server costs and you can donate more with no perks i'd be like: hell yeah guys have at it

sleek sparrow
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so you dont care about the sentiment then, you just want the features

steady kayak
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i do care about the sentiment but i also care being in a pandemic where the finances change rapidly.. and i do care about the comparison of cost of a vr headset to justify the price when vr headsets have dropped hardcore.. to 299

rigid jasper
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If it were a sentiment it wouldn't have a set price.

hollow ingot
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Too late, FFXIV's getting that money on my side... no other subs for me
I'd get VRC+ to help with server costs

kindred nacelle
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I plan on buying it for one extremely simple reason: they did this instead of cracking down on copyright infringement or nsfw

sleek sparrow
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vr headsets have not dropped. that is quest being an outlier

steady kayak
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not true

sleek sparrow
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vive and index are still about 1000 dollars

steady kayak
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i have an index and im on my 5th controller of rma hell

cursive fjord
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Index in a nutshell lol

steady kayak
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all joysticks drifted in about a sspan of 2 months.

hollow ingot
sleek sparrow
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seems like nobody in video games knows how to make decent control sticks anymore

kindred nacelle
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You guys realize that if they were to try to make money with sponsorships, ads, or paid content then they would have to destroy everything that makes VRC what it is

cursive fjord
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2 months? How they hell have you managed that. Mine have lasted for about 6-7 months. And I play contantly

steady kayak
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@sleek sparrow they picked a bad part and havent switched it to a newer part to RMAs which is really crazy.
Monkey longest i had one last was 4 months tops

sleek sparrow
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my first set broke within a month. new set has been fine since

steady kayak
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and there is also the squeeky trigger to name a few on some

sleek sparrow
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and ive had so many other sticks have drift and deadzone issues. its not just valve. sony, nintendo, microsoft, they all do it

cursive fjord
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Only had mine replaced once for far

sleek sparrow
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i think the last good controller ive had is probably the gamecube controller

steady kayak
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one time too many.. imagine if we all had 1 time

sleek sparrow
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ive had gamecube controllers from 2003 that still work. no drift, no loose sticks

steady kayak
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(which most do) my headset itself is holding out perfect tho. I think they went for just a really bad part on the joystick but im amazed they havent adressed. You cant tell me you can't get a joystick from another supplier or provide some relief on the mechanical parts of the joystick to make it last longer..

sleek sparrow
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even the new gcn controllers they made for smash feel like they wont break anytime soon

hollow ingot
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Gamecube controllers 🀀 I have 9, but they're the Smash 4 controllers. No stick drift there.

sleek sparrow
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but whatever the hell they make sticks out of these days, regardless of controller, they all suck

steady kayak
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index has a great controller but the durability worries me. eventually warranty runs out and rma will be gone.. i mean.. keep sending it back and it keeps happening doesn't scream confidence sadly.

sleek sparrow
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i have an OG platinum, 3 OG indigo, a white one from 2006, smash 4 and a smash ultimate. all work fine

rigid jasper
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Let's just mod GCN controller sticks onto Index controllers. EZ

steady kayak
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That being said.. comfy headphone. Great screen!
I dont want to mod a product i paid so much for at launch

sleek sparrow
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not to mention 2 wavebirds that also still work

sleek sparrow
misty crypt
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Just my opinion, purely that.. put here for archival purposes. Step 1, monetize vrchat. Step 2, scan and ban all accounts using modified clients due to conflict of financial interest. Step 3, don't actually implement the features that superusers rely on especially bug fixes in modded clients that haven't been fixed ever by dev team. Step 4,lose a substantial user base of vrchat to other platforms - the users most likely to pay. Step 5, vrchat looses it's essence and becomes just 12 year old trolls. Not trying to poo pop the devs. I love vrchat and I would love to pay for it. But from all I've heard this implementation is going to go south fast.

rigid jasper
steady kayak
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sera no what they shoul do is have a prompt or nag message saying : Hey we will now implement most of it please support us.
Banning is too agressive imho and will just create tension

sleek sparrow
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no they should ban. its against the rules already. dont give them any leeway

cursive fjord
#

Also quickly back to this vrchat plus shit. Yes it covers server cost's as so foward. But it has never been a problem before. And what annoyes me is that they ask for so much every month. I really think it should only be 10 usd or even 15 as a one time fee, and not every month. Then they would be fine. And as they provide more features more people would buy it. Its either that or lower the cost to 2,49.
And as of yet they don't really provide any features I even care about, I know theres more to come, but as of right now there aint much. The stuff that there actually is that I care about can be provided with mods (which I know is aginst tos, but everyones uses them and they enhance the game a lot, if vrc where to strike more down on those they would kill there own game)

steady kayak
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also some of those things actually have the player breaking things behind toggles that warn you that it wont be respected. some features are actually really nifty like spotify intergration.. reloading incase you are stuck in a load etc etc

misty crypt
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laser i agree

steady kayak
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i mean its unevitable that it needs to be sustainable not denying that but its the execution of the program thats so painfull to see.

sly crane
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was app

sleek sparrow
misty crypt
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i will happily pay whatever vrchat wants. but the bottom line is, there are things that people want, rely on, that vrchat just doesn't have. and seeminly integrating things that aren't really that useful.

little rampart
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aw shit, here we go again

sleek sparrow
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2.49 definitely does not sound like itd be enough. i feel like 10 bucks is generous considering the kind of data storage they need

misty crypt
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again just my opinion.

steady kayak
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yes hence lower the cost to cover the server and dev fees.. which probably could be easily at 2.99 or if we wanna create some space for the users tops 4.99 then after that have a "dev thank you" tier that is just additional money.. nothing back for it.. just extra for the team.. no perks on that front

sleek sparrow
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well thats fine, but jumping to conclusions like you just did seravitae makes you look bad

steady kayak
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that way you engage people of all financial standings to support vrc

sleek sparrow
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again, what makes you think 5 dollars is enough for them? how do you know that will pay all their fees? do you know their monthly budgets?

steady kayak
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and people with too much money can throw more at them n o problem.
octane i bet per user they arent that high as you might think monthly and that money scales fast.

sleek sparrow
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so yall are of the opinion it sucks, but still think the majority of people are gonna buy it? which is it then?

steady kayak
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if its more reasonably priced: absolutely

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i will buy it if they go 4.99 word. but not at 10

sleek sparrow
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a price drop wont make a difference. people dont like paying money. doesnt matter if its 1 dollar or 100 dollars.

steady kayak
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absolutely does

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people pay for the prospect of more development and this is now become a hard sell

sleek sparrow
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well thats exactly what this is for: paying for development. i dont see the problem

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and what makes 10 dollars not "reasonably priced"?

steady kayak
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its the confidence if it actually goes to that.. there has been no VRC+ roadmap/goal map.. you know things that outline whats going to change going forth

misty crypt
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the problem i see is that from what i hear from other superusers is that other clients (yes i realise these are not permitted) are providing people with features that are so useful that those users, fearing losing that, would rather move platforms.

steady kayak
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since weve seen canny planned post from 2017 still in planned.. and its not 1 or 2

sleek sparrow
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shit takes time, might not be high on their priority list. seems like they have been working on this for a while now

misty crypt
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so is vrchat going to actually implement those features that the users most likely to pay (superusers) or are they going to just ignore it and continue doing whatever else they do.

steady kayak
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if modders could do it I frown a little bit that a team cant

sleek sparrow
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you know that argument doesnt hold water laser

misty crypt
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i agree with laser, octane.

steady kayak
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yet it does.. its still code.. that one person implemented

rigid jasper
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VRC has competition now and they need to treat this like that. The features offered need to be... I'm not sure if unique or better is the right word here... Either way, they need to show they're the better plan.

misty crypt
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if a group of people love a platform so much they're willing to hack it to make it better... and actually apparently do.. that should be reference enough, should it not?

steady kayak
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that runs and functions and with no impact on performance. that required those people to even delve into the code.. they did it.. i mean it doesnt mean they should all throw it in there.. but the fact they could do turn arounds in such a short time.. why cant a company?

sleek sparrow
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modders do not implement things well. doesnt matter the game. there are many conventions modders can take that the official dev team just cant. there are certain stages of development a dev team must follow, which is why things take so long.

steady kayak
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Not all things implemented well but there are many things that are implemented VERY well. i urge you to have a look

sleek sparrow
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regardless of team size, any feature, big or small, has a lot of red tape. there has to be planning, discussions, testing, implementation, more discussions

misty crypt
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i fear the immediate loss of those features they rely on in terms of waiting for an official implementation is going to cause them to switch platforms, as there are other platforms that natively have those features already integrated - primarily from watching what users in vrchat want, and don't get.

steady kayak
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absolutely but ...2 years.. i stand by my point

sleek sparrow
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then you have never developed a game in your life

steady kayak
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ah the red herring classic

sleek sparrow
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i have worked at software companies, it DOES take that long sometimes

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dont believe me if you want, but i guess we wont get anywhere

misty crypt
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how about using some of the money to hire the people doing the mods.

cursive fjord
# sleek sparrow 2.49 definitely does not sound like itd be enough. i feel like 10 bucks is gener...

From someone that works with tech, yes they have server cost. But with the data they store I wouldnt imagine their server costs to be the highest, especially considering the game is peer 2 peer based. All they are really storeing is simple SQL data for login, logging, favorites, etc. And that doesnt take much space, nor the highest of resources. Of course they would have a few servers though for there database. As for storage for avatars and worlds, yes they have a good amount of data there, but storage servers by them selfs are relatively cheap, even with high speeds. And tbf overall I would expect vrchat to use amazon for their services which are awesome servers at a fair cost.
Honestly, I am sure vrchat would be fine with either lowering there price to 2,49 or a one time fee of 15. As long as the game grows, and they strive to improve it and will have income. If the game stops growing and starts decreasing in their player count, they would need less server and therefore lowering the cost. Theres no way they require to charge people that much, as all.

misty crypt
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there has to be a good reason people are using them, right?

sleek sparrow
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expanding the team could be part of the plan yes

misty crypt
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monkey actually avatars and stuff would have to be hosted on a CDN, so their storage and bandwith costs would be bigger than you think

umbral reef
sleek sparrow
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are we sure its p2p? doesnt feel like any p2p ive ever used

steady kayak
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@cursive fjord also consider that in bulk your hosting costs actually go down at some point

sleek sparrow
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its either server based, or the best goddamn p2p in the world

steady kayak
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especially since vrc hosts through other businesses.

cursive fjord
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Worlds are p2p

sleek sparrow
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then they have some magic p2p that no other company has even come close to matching

steady kayak
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i believe its not p2p its server side but they dont own the servers..

vocal shard
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Huh? My understanding was only voice was p2p

steady kayak
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voice is p2p? oh wow

misty crypt
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i heard it was p2p early on but is now server side for sync reasons

sleek sparrow
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cause if its p2p, then why do i, a canadian, have no problems playing with a room of japanese or russians, literally half way around the world from me?

steady kayak
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servers are USA based

sleek sparrow
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that makes way more sense laser

umbral reef
misty crypt
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voice is p2p if using steamvr. i dunno. im gonna bow out of this conversation. i would love to pay for vrchat. i just dont think this is well planned/thought out or going to work out well, just the way its being implemented.

sleek sparrow
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i dont see how you could possibly ask for a better implementation. and no, a lower price is not the answer lol

vocal shard
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Yeah I'm canada west coast and my ping is around 40 regardless what would I join under normal circumstances

steady kayak
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which is also weird.. no EU servers.. no roadmap of EU servers either. I am surprised how well it works despite but you might know that early vrc users primairly from europe have the tendency to talk over users due to latency

umbral reef
steady kayak
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people just got used to it.

cursive fjord
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To my understanding whole world are p2p? Especially also considering that the host (which you can see with mods) always lags more then everyone else and also tends to crash in world that has many videos resources and so forth.
You may also have noticed that theres a bug where the host will be stuck in a chair in some random place on the map when you join a world just for you.

misty crypt
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Already listed reasons for a better implementation. I'm out.

sleek sparrow
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well when you only have limited investor money, the idea is to make a product that is viable to monetize first and foremost, then other optional things like global servers can come later once you prove your idea to your benefactors

steady kayak
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i doubt it monkey. p2p access sounds like a huge security flaw

umbral reef
steady kayak
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15 mil isnt my definition of limited. sure it runs out once tho

sleek sparrow
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it isnt infinite, so by definition, it is limited

steady kayak
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300 is quite high especially if you wanna get latency down for playing games together

sleek sparrow
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especially when you make 0 revenue and technically record a loss every month

cursive fjord
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To my understanding of vrc, they used to run off sever only like a year back. But then changed to p2p to lower server costs. That what I have heard anyways, and judging from my experience it also seems to be so. But dont quote me on it though

vocal shard
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If the world host logs off, it has no effect on the world

steady kayak
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companies who report a loss avoid taxes doing so.. american based tech companies tend to do that you know...

sleek sparrow
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but vr chat has a legit reason to record a loss: they have no income lol

steady kayak
#

they do? they have partnerships and clients like hbo who hosts events for money

sleek sparrow
#

sure they get investments once in a while

vocal shard
#

And this would be noticable as I often play with people from across the world, ones with low bandwidth who are the host, server runs perfectly for me

steady kayak
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yeah jamie def not p2p

umbral reef
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You cant go lower then 300 mili seconds if you want to play with people across the world.
If you only want to play with EU people, EU servers would work great.
Else it wont and just increase ping globally for everyone because your hopping more.

steady kayak
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but we have tons of local communities.. why not strive for more.. since its provided by exeternal hosting services they could extend their plan to include EU and implement clever load balancing according to the users locations

cursive fjord
sleek sparrow
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i dunno where monkey got this idea from, then based his entire argument around it.

steady kayak
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its not new in gaming/multiplayer or even select EU or usa region

umbral reef
sleek sparrow
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sure but he assumed this game was p2p, then complained about it as if it was fact, when evidence strongly suggests the opposite

vocal shard
#

The game does know the difference of who the instance host/master is. It could be a bug linked to that

cold quiver
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vrchat uses a relayed p2p networking system, called Photon Unity Networking

umbral reef
steady kayak
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its not sustainable on their own no but its not a "no income" situation

wary hollow
#

People who use a VPN in this game.
Which one do you recommend

umbral reef
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The cheapest payed one

steady kayak
#

ive seen plenty non soft locked games that just say :pick region as you are joining this world or server

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@wary hollow expressVPN myself

sleek sparrow
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VPNs are kinda taboo so uh i dont use any

cursive fjord
umbral reef
#

Thats literally soft region locking
Getting send to the best server by default or being able to select the server you want.
All contact to other servers being locked unless you join

wary hollow
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Noted.
Thx vanish and laser

steady kayak
wary hollow
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@sleek sparrow am gonna try it as my connection only to vrchat is a snail pace can barely play and nothing fixed it

steady kayak
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and you would still just pick whatever your friends go to or whatever world you think has the most players for you

umbral reef
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Region locking
Soft
Its not a full region locked as your not forced into one specific region always but can pick it
You still cant play globally

steady kayak
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soft lock means software lock. its not a lock because you can literally pick and hop between

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a soft lock is something like a drm removal of features

umbral reef
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Bruh- Your missing the full word 'region' that i write inbetween soft and lock each time :c

steady kayak
#

people from asia can still drop in your EU session lol..

umbral reef
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But not by default and while having an extremely worse ping then now 😳

steady kayak
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πŸ˜† have you tested it

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because america isnt in the center for everyone you know

umbral reef
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I dont need to test it
This is known information

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America's internet lines are the best to across the world
EU doesnt really have an connection to Asia with big ass lines you know.

steady kayak
#

so you are telling me all those studios that have multi region servers are doing it wrong and are doing it to intentionally cripple their users?
That seems.. right

cursive fjord
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I meaan. I meet people from all over the world all the time. In fact I tend to meet people from the US the most even though I live in Denmark

steady kayak
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and they do.. lol.. you really gotta look at the Backbone of the net...

placid umbra
#

I think I'm a bit behind, but Steam voice in VRChat is relayed P2P

umbral reef
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No- Those studio's dont want everyone to play on the same server and interacting with people all over the world by default
They throw people in regions so its cheaper and they get lower latency...
And they indeed have an connection EU Asia connection but its slower then EU -> NA -> Asia depending what hops it makes.

vocal shard
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They're talking about world though

steady kayak
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interesting its p2p

placid umbra
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As in, IP addresses are not revealed.

steady kayak
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is it picking based on who is nearest and has the most bandwidth? or is the host carrying all the relaying?

cursive fjord
#

Can't ip addresses still be revealed with mods? I know there at least used to be some issues with it, where you would have to used a mod to do steam spoofing to avoid people getting your ip address or some shit

steady kayak
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nah

placid umbra
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Nope, they're never exposed now.

placid umbra
steady kayak
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thats good. because that means it puts more responsibility on valve in that case

umbral reef
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doesnt one of the video player stuff leak ip's aev?

steady kayak
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maybe old players

wary hollow
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Am curious where are the vrchat servers where you download from as am getting slow speeds to them only.

umbral reef
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Or is that also gone since the unity jump

steady kayak
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btw aev whats the reason for no EU servers for vrc? my download speeds of worlds is fine but just wishing ping could be pushed down further

umbral reef
rough pulsar
#

Pretty sure anything that's making a http request can 'leak' an IP, assuming the server is under control of the one wanting to find the IPs. Connecting those to users is where it can get a bit funky.

placid umbra
wary hollow
#

@umbral reef noted I'll look into it see if ports are affected

steady kayak
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yeah i mean i understand you cant hop between a region but at least maybe a lower capacity eu server for those wishing to play a gamemode within vrc when most are local when the worlds latency impacts the gameplay.. something along those lines

wary hollow
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Its sad playing the game at 100kb per second =(

umbral reef
vocal shard
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I have no issues with the 180 ping uwu

steady kayak
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admit that most of us are jelly at sweden and their many fiber connections (or people with google fiber hehe)

#

i know I am

cursive fjord
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Denmark has great internet too lol. Got to love my 1000/1000 xD

steady kayak
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ive got cable but corporate. its not like fiber but its still hella fast

wary hollow
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@umbral reef my vrchat in game speed for 2 years are as fast as my internet plan I can play no problem but now suddenly only in vrchat it's that bad

umbral reef
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Viber here is as fast as the copper wires πŸ‘€
Id be paying 10 bucks more for an 1MS decrease in speed and 10more down speed and 5 up speed.
Im happy enough with my 80/45 already with an average of 21Ms ping to amsterdam servers

steady kayak
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it would never be as fast and then comes the aging problem of copper

umbral reef
steady kayak
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i think there was once a talk of cables like that oxydizing/degrading which hurts the performance

umbral reef
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Well its more that viber here is being limited
So there is no reason for me to get it

steady kayak
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something thats apparent in australia so i heard

rough pulsar
#

The way I'd like (and hope) regional servers would work is like how Discord does it, where it benefits the more local users without excluding others from connecting.

umbral reef
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And most cables here are high maintance and still relatively new so we dont have the problems straya has

steady kayak
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yes gallium

#

it would also load balance because you arent just getting the stuff from one central point so you effectively load balance

wary hollow
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@umbral reef I thought so but restarting resetting both router and windows network fixed nothing.

vital mantle
#

So uh, Im not really sure where to request help from.. and im having issues..

steady kayak
#

what kind of?

cursive fjord
steady kayak
#

better idea @cursive fjord he should use google dns or cloudflare dns.. you can check online how to change your dns on just that pc of yours

rough pulsar
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Anything else would fragment VRC in a very bad way. The great thing about it all being a 'single system' is meeting people from geographically distant regions. It's a social featue that is far more important than I think some people truly understand.

cursive fjord
steady kayak
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yeah def locking people from regions is a bad bad way

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i sometimes join the chinese worlds or the spanish ones.. you never know

rough pulsar
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Region locking: Fuck no no no no
Region prioritization: πŸ‘

steady kayak
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exactly

wary hollow
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@steady kayak @cursive fjord
Dns used cloud flare always.
Same issue
Anti-virus has vrchat white listed and in firewall.
DMZ is even enabled.
I'll use a static IP later just to see.

steady kayak
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whats your router brand? just gonna ask.. runs some speed tests too..

cursive fjord
umbral reef
wary hollow
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Am losing hope =(

vital mantle
#

So, the issue im having is. I uploaded three avatars quite recently. One because im confused on why there is a delay.
I've uploaded an avatar 3-4 hours ago: it shows up on the website. but then it doesnt show up in game.
I have relogged 4-5 times thru steam and VrChat account way.
I recently uploaded an avatar for my boyfriend on my account but hell that won't even show up in game too.
Any advice?

steady kayak
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a vpn is not gonna increase your access times just saying it adds another hoop

wary hollow
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@cursive fjord it removes the firewall from my router to my pc

umbral reef
west yoke
rough pulsar
vital mantle
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2018.4.29f1

west yoke
vital mantle
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Errrrr that's frustrating. Thank you.

cursive fjord
steady kayak
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ok time to get back to work for meeee
But again highlighting the vrc+ thing. no probs paying. Just lower it a bit and add a top donator tier for the ones wanting to pay 10 bucks or 20 buck monthly with an option to dynamical change tiers (someone having a good day or using a lot might feel obligated to pitch in more)

wary hollow
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@cursive fjord
Noted my bad

steady kayak
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but that way people of all financial standings can pitch without it being one or nothing deals

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time to get some supplies ait

wary hollow
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@umbral reef

plush mortar
#

guess who was a complete idiot and didnt realise you had to turn dynamic bones on yourself 😎

cursive fjord
# wary hollow <@281141403520729088> Noted my bad

Try to see if you could work with some port fowarding on your router, that may help. Theres 100's of guides on it online. Also maybe try and manually change your DNS server on your pc to google's DNS server instead of your ISP. The ip for google would be 8.8.8.8. Again there a lot of guides on how to do that online

wary hollow
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@umbral reef the site you give me Amazon shows a download of 256kb sounds right from vrchat

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@cursive fjord
I'll apply Google dns.
Forward ports I guess vrchat will be Amazon services port
Thank you

umbral reef
cursive fjord
umbral reef
#

But try the DNS settings and if that fails you can try disabling Ipv6 temporarly
Some people claimed that solved there problems but im fairly confused as to why

sleek sparrow
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if he's DMZ he shouldnt need to port forward. thats the whole point of DMZ. some ISPs really really dont want you port forwarding either and will do everything they can to stop it

cursive fjord
umbral reef
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Yea- I still see people swearing that was the only thing that changed it from working to not working πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
Maybe there ISP changes some stuff then for them or other whack stuff

wary hollow
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@umbral reef can't read that.
Intreasting fix

@cursive fjord
Alright I'll open those ports soon when back to my pc

cursive fjord
#

Anyways with the ones I have worked with. But tbf I mainly work with cisco equipment when it comes to that. So we have a whole hardware firewall for it

simple quest
#

Damn , vrchat do be giving me the black screen

cursive fjord
simple quest
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i just wanted some good ol karaoke on open mic night πŸ˜”

umbral reef
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It goes to an blackscreen on load?
Or after your in the game

simple quest
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yeah , when i load in it just gives me a black screen

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like i can load in in my vrchat home and whatever i just get into open mic night

umbral reef
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Try clearing ya chache and else #vrchat-support .
there support forum has a ton of things to try when this happens

cursive fjord
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Also try to verify your game files

simple quest
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alr

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wtf

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open mic night is haunted , The great pug works

vocal shard
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The pug is dead~

umbral reef
simple quest
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when I load into open mic night it just auto load me in i dont even have the option to Go

cursive fjord
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Did he message anyone else?

umbral reef
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Well that something
But i didnt get an dm

vocal shard
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33k?!? What a steal man

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Can you run VRChat on a Mac? When I go to VRChat's from the Steam Shop it says "An error occured while updating VRChat (invalid platform)"

west yoke
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For PC only Windows is officially supported by VRChat

vocal shard
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Possibly, when I go to upload worlds in unity it only allows me android and windows options @vocal shard

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Oh, alright. I might get the Oculus Quest 2 for Christmas. Since I have a Mac, can I not play VRChat?

west yoke
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You can, if you use bootcamp to go into Windows

vocal shard
#

Yeah I was gonna suggest a virtual machine

west yoke
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Though I wonder how well that'll go

vocal shard
#

I wonder if wine supports it on linux

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Alright. Can I use my phone instead?

west yoke
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no

vocal shard
#

oh ok

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I did see tonight someone playing vrchat on iPhone 11

plush mortar
#

GeForce now might work

west yoke
#

Well actually. If I do recall Nvidia supports VRChat on GeForce Now

plush mortar
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Idk, streaming gaming still sucks lol

vocal shard
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Oh it's a streaming thing

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You can play VRChat without a PC, though. Right? So it shouldn't matter that I have a Mac.

plush mortar
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Through the quest, yeah

west yoke
vocal shard
#

With the quest yes, the quest is technically android

plush mortar
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But not on MacOS, completely different than windows

vocal shard
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Thanks.

broken plover
#

with wine you can play it on mac I think

elfin cloak
#

hallo
ok ... i saw new vrchat announcements about vrchat +
but it's little unclear to me so i wonder
is that new vrchat platform that latter will be monetized i mean
paid

or is it just opt in beta vrchat update
and it will be included in regular vrchat and that feature will be for
free

west yoke
broken plover
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its a subscription service, which will cost 10 bucks a month. Currently its in beta for free to test it out, but when it comes to live it will be paid

elfin cloak
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it is not that i am confused between those two things
i am confused about vrchat plus plan

i am not from USA and maybe i did not understand it correctly

so again is that feature will be included in regular vrchat

or it will only exist in new vrchat plus platform

plush mortar
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It's not gonna be "pay to do anything lol"

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It'll be sort of like, Nitro on Discord, in a sense

west yoke
elfin cloak
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well that mean that it will be paid
couse i cant have nitro because it is paid service

plush mortar
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Yes, it'll be payed

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It's a subscription service, a paid service

elfin cloak
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ah i knew it :(

but that is understandable
the vrchat devs must leave from something
i agree with their plans

plush mortar
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VRC+ will just be an add-on to regular VRC, just like Nitro is to Discord

elfin cloak
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yeah

plush mortar
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You won't lose anything by being on VRC non-plus

inner cape
#

except for your social status, because youll be known as a pleb

plush mortar
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Lmao, I mean you get called all kinds of names on VRC anyway, so no change really, especially since it already has the trust system

vocal shard
#

nut

elfin cloak
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i know
but that feature will be free for some period of time as an demo
and latter they will close it and make it available for those who want to pay for it

vocal shard
plush mortar
#

Well, that's what the beta is for @elfin cloak

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They're gonna shove everything they wanna put in VRC+ in there until it's finalised, and then put it on live, but I doubt there will be a free trial, but who knows

shell bear
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u wont be known as a pleb as non vrc+ tho spirit vrcThinking

inner cape
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why not

shell bear
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it WILL go both ways. For some people you'll be judged "cool" or just 'trusted' for being a Trusted User, but also get judged as 'nerd' 'nolife' sometimes :p

plush mortar
#

True, same kinda thing as nitro lol "damn you vrc+ flexers"

inner cape
#

anyone who plays this game is a nolife regardless of rank

elfin cloak
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@plush mortar
ahh... free trial and temporary demo is same for me

i would more like to be just 'free'
but i think that will not goin to happen

shell bear
#

Well that is not entirely true in my opinion. The "nolife" term is so bad. But I believe you don't play VRChat?

inner cape
#

havent played for past half a year πŸ‘

shell bear
#

What are you even doing in here then xD

elfin cloak
#

@shell bear
i do 3 years to be exact

plush mortar
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Chatting about VR

inner cape
#

friends wanted me to come back

shell bear
#

@elfin cloak I get what you saying, but in reality - there's no changing the 10$ system regardless of how much people wanna complain.. It's a winwin for VRChat, even if they started losing people for no reason. They still got big ass advertisers on YouTube such as imbee etc.

elfin cloak
#

@shell bear
and about vrchat eula and their terms
they can change it any time and make it more clearer and or to add something new

inner cape
#

a good thing a friend of mine brought up is having different tiers, some people wanna pay less for just a few features, they don't need the whole pack, and that sounds pretty reasonable to me

shell bear
#

I have to be honest tho, I'm a bit sceptic 'bout how the "torrent downloaded // servers" with movies can be allowed to run while monetizing the game, but hey :D

elfin cloak
#

@shell bear

when you saying changing the 10$ etc etc
that is probably true

shell bear
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I mean even without monetizing, but yeah. Anyways I'm out haha vrcNoerito

plush mortar
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That's not their problem tho

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It's like how pirating servers in discord isn't discords problem lol

shell bear
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Nah Smol, you know that its the servers owner to make sure people follow the rules right?

plush mortar
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Yeah, obviously

shell bear
#

Or their server could get taken down, I had gotten 5 Discord servers taken down. You have to remember - Discord is not invisible for exact those rules that they need to shut down servers with illegal shit like CP. There are regulators here and there, and for VRChat to keep up a world with torrented movies for 2 years - It may not be the creators themselves doing it, but you have to remember that - Not removing it, is their problem regardless.

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I'm not blaming nobody, in reality I could care less - but I like the thought :p

plush mortar
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They can only do so much either way, discord and vrc alike are big platforms

shell bear
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It's the same with nightclubs. Who's gonna get the big $$ problem if they let in kids that are under 18 and get busted

plush mortar
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They can't get every single world/server out there doing illegal stuff

shell bear
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There's always protocol, but I get what you mean though

plush mortar
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Also, nightclubs and under18s aren't vrc Devs problem either

shell bear
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You know I can argument against and for, so I agree with you as I disagree haha xD

umbral reef
#

The rule for this stuff really is that unless the owner of the content tells them to remove it, they have to remove it asap.
Untill that moment they are in the clear and fine as they technically dont know its not allowed.

For ToS breaking things, the same applies, if they know about it, they have to act on it directly. But they dont need to go out of there way.

plush mortar
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It's the person who made its problem, like how nsfw discord servers have checks in place and stuff, and some dont, but they're covered legally

umbral reef
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Without the laws working in this way there would literally be no internet platform or game out there

shell bear
#

There's degrees though. It's not like the smallest "illegal" things is a problem xD That's pretty much what it is, but hey - I don't even need the movie worlds down, in fact I use them, but you'll be surprised if people weren't lazy.

inner cape
#

no face no case

hollow swan
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Woah πŸ˜‚

brisk bone
#

Honestly, I grow tired of people not comprehending that the DMCA system exists. Because it is a less expensive way than the corporations sueing every claimant.

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Reality is, everyone can be sued by corporations for whatever at any point and at any time. The legal analysis for VRChat Inc. deciding to monetize itself by a subscription model that which perks has no benefit to Copyright infringers other than it being argued that more Avatar slots could mean more infringements by the enduser with the subscription. Point is I feel that if VRChat Inc. has seeked legal counsel on this issue and they are now publically unveiling a monetization option they must be confident that they can pursue this without any issues.

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It's just a small boost to your current Trust algorithm.

winter sierra
#

They should add more rewards for the ranking system. Like adding more avatar slots each time you rank up or something

umbral reef
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No new ranks
No full rank boost, its a small tiny bitty boost in how fast you rank up.

winter sierra
#

Currently the only good reward is being able to upload worlds and avatars as "New User" which takes around 5-6 days to get

umbral reef
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@winter sierra Its not a ranking system, its a trust system meant to show how 'trust worthy' people in the game are.
You should not compare it to like an leveling up system

brisk bone
#

Ranks are no longer visible with this update, anyways.

winter sierra
#

@umbral reef Doesn't matter if it's trust system or ranking system. My whole point is to earn better rewards for being a trustworthy

uncut smelt
#

Im out of the loop. Why is everyone angry about the VRChat+ thing?

umbral reef
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Yes but why would they?
People will just try to game the system even more then and id be even less enjoyable to use

winter sierra
#

I don't see any problems with the VRC+ It's optional so if you don't want to buy something they are offering to you, don't complain.

uncut smelt
#

I was told they've locked community made stuff behind a paywall?

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but I can't figure out if thats true?

winter sierra
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Who told you that

brisk bone
#

That's not true. πŸ›Œ

umbral reef
# uncut smelt I was told they've locked community made stuff behind a paywall?

People are making the insane logic leap that modded clients had the things VRC is also adding now.
Those clients got people banned, accounts yoinked and are against TOS is its a joke of an argument.
They are not limiting anything of the core gameplay (think uploading worlds, favoriting things or more)
All your getting is when you subscribe is more of everything. More avatar slots, more ways to personalize your identity and ect.

uncut smelt
#

So they're not taking away anything we've had access to already for free? They're just adding more features but on a paid subscription?

winter sierra
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No they don't do that.

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They are even being a little bit generous like increasing the favourite avatar slot up to 25.

golden scaffold
umbral reef
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They are not removing anything you can do right now in the base game.
If you pay you right now get 100 favorite slots instead of 25.
They will add extra things behind an paid subscription, all poggo stuff will stay free

uncut smelt
#

Seems like it'll be fine then. Just seems to be a lot of people on Reddit and in Discords freaking out lol

winter sierra
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You shouldnt read what other people say in other discords or other social media

quartz jetty
#

Except the whole nameplate obstruction fiasco that happened for nameplate customization that didn't infact obstruct the username and in most cases was still mostly unobstructed

winter sierra
#

I do like the new design for the nameplate. It's clean and doesn't overlap the other player's nameplates.

#

And being able to resize and change the opacity of the nameplate? Now that's a feature I have been waiting for.

quartz jetty
#

That i do agree with, but it was essentially open for user customization for free before getting cracked down on

umbral reef
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It wasnt in the base game though--
Keep in mind plenty dont use clients or made there own avatars

quartz jetty
#

Yes, but it was still a restriction put in place that could've been motivated for this new system, much like the reasoning for limiting avatar favorites has changed along the years

winter sierra
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Ngl, Clients have already ruined the avatar worlds enough that you don't even have to enter the world to get the avatar.

quartz jetty
#

My simple point being, restrictions may be turned into paid "features" and nobody will bat an eye

umbral reef
#

Well keep in mind the clients are running off VRC's back with the favorite stuff as they didnt have to host the things
Most clients dont function like the base game would/should for totally logical reasons.

red orchid
#

hi

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who have rabbid model from big all's coridors

winter sierra
#

It would be nice to have stats of people using my avatars, the total of favourites, etc

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Something like with Worlds.

golden scaffold
#

Avatar creators can get extremely talented and deserve appreciation for their work.

winter sierra
#

Exactly what I was thinking

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I'm more into world making and it does motivate me to make more worlds and keep them updated by looking at the stats.

quartz jetty
#

Given the current nature of vrc+ i assume that any non-paid customization around the nameplate area will be a bannable offense?

red orchid
#

please i want that model help me

umbral reef
red orchid
#

how

umbral reef
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In the world there should be an spot where his discord name gets shown.
Find that, DM him on discord and ask nicely if you could use the avatar or where to buy/find it.

golden scaffold
inner cape
#

it has been bannable for a long while now

quartz jetty
#

Including anything not directly obstructing the nameplate, yet still around its general vicinity, say an aesthetic addornment?

flat briar
#

@quartz jetty as I understand it, any thing that modifies the base code of VRChat is a violation of TOS

quartz jetty
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No code alteration

inner cape
#

as quoted from the community guidelines "Hide, obstruct, add/remove elements from, or affect/modify the appearance of the VRChat UI (such as nameplates)."

flat briar
#

Modify includes adding

quartz jetty
#

The nameplate itself is unadultered, the question is, if something is simply around it, without obstructing it, does it construe a ToS violation?

#

To add elements to the nameplate directly one would need to somehow modify the code it runs on, much like UI changes i assume clients do

sudden thunder
#

how do i get trusted rank?

quartz jetty
#

Keep playing and socializing

sudden thunder
#

for how long?

#

i wanted to make a avatar but i need to be trusted

quartz jetty
#

No time constraint, it's dependent on alot of factors

#

You don't need trusted to upload content

#

Unless you mean trust rank

sudden thunder
#

Yeah!

umbral reef
#

My alt got it within an full day
For some it tooks days to get, some claim it took them a week of playing
Just socialize, visit worlds and make friends, time will fly fast then

quartz jetty
#

Then yeah, play for a bit and you'll eventually get upload privileges

sudden thunder
#

ok... ive just played for 2 days now and there stands on the website i only need to in a few hours! and i got 3 friends

quartz jetty
#

There really is no time constraint for ranking on trust, it changes on a user-per-user basis, it's different for everyone depending on their interactions

sudden thunder
#

ok

red orchid
#

who have rabbid model from big all's coridors

vocal shard
#

Damn .. big al..havent heard from or seen that world in like a year vrcLaughing

fickle gale
#

how do i install vrchat?

broken plover
#

through steam, or oculus store if you have a rift (s)/quest (2)

fickle gale
#

do i need a vr headset?

broken plover
#

no

fickle gale
#

k thank you

vocal shard
#

so did the discussion around + finally stop?

inner cape
#

it never stops

vocal shard
#

please make it stop

#

It won't stop for along time though most people are tried of complaining already lol @vocal shard

#

no one cares anymoreπŸ˜”, i just want slow mo off

hollow ingot
#

Please, no... not the Drift S

supple python
#

Came back to see if still warzone, excited that it isnt πŸ˜„

regal furnace
#

its getting calmer now

strange carbon
#

have you guys heard of this little thing called vrc plus?

#

Chaos insues

supple python
#

I am quite sad I cant use my custom emotes here

#

I was gonna use my turtle holding a knife in his mouth

vocal shard
#

im glad that my friends who i know are here aswel..cant use the emotes they made of my face here

inner cape
#

or if you purchase vrchat plu- i mean, boost the server you'll be able to use emotes here too

#

πŸ™‚

raven silo
#

vrchat plus thing not really that bad. they didnt put limit how many avatar upload from unity yet

vocal shard
#

Does anyone know how to make infinite loading glitch stop?

raven silo
#

@vocal shard maybe delete world folder in AppData for vrchat maybe cache error out

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only thing will happen have redownload world you visit

vocal shard
#

Yah, but on our internet, that is still quite inconvenient

pallid wraith
#

So i just finished watching "The Lawnmower Man" with some friend, I finally understand the true intent of the VRChat project

hollow ingot
urban dust
#

But whats the problem with that

rotund surge
#

Is it worth to play NOW without VR headset? Like I know it would be worth more with vr headset because it's vr game mainly.

But 2 years ago I used to play (I even recorded youtube videos), without VR headset and there was a lot of people without it too so it was kinda okay. (days when you had to wait hour in lobby just to get into the game).

I just don't want to jump in now when the hype is over and see only people with VR headset do stuff around that I can't πŸ˜„ it would be sad :< (and they would probably ignore me anyway)

worthy oracle
#

There’s a lot of desktop users

#

The experience can still be great on desktop

jagged arrow
#

e

golden scaffold
#

Some of my friends also only play on Desktop. πŸ™‚ VR isn't super accessible for everyone yet - hope we get more options in the future.

floral aspen
inner cape
#

the hardest part is to find yourself a sane group these days, not having vr is barely a problem vrcAevSip
(althought this depends on your.. preferences in people, so it might be easier for.. some)

vocal shard
rotund surge
#

@golden scaffold yeah.. it would be more epic if there was more stuff to do on Desktop, I mean I could buy the VR headset, the problem is I would need to upgrade my PC. And most of the time I live in my dorm room where I don't even have PC just notebook so that would suck anyway.

@floral aspen is it? I used to play even before hype and it was cool.. Started making youtube videos, I was happy how fast I was growing, then everything changed when Pewdiepie made a vrchat videos...

there was suddenly so many other youtubers I lost the grind. And at that time there was so many players online I remember waiting hour in lobby angry af that I won't be able to go play. And once I joined changing a lobby was a "suicide" because I had to wait again πŸ˜„ that was VRC hell πŸ˜„

vocal shard
#

Sorry for that

sudden thunder
#

can anyone pls do me a favor?

floral aspen
delicate thicket
#

Are most people playing VRChat in private or friend+ worlds? I've been trying it out over the last couple of days and it seems like not many people play publicly (unless I'm blind and can't find them)

cloud pebble
#

I would say so, a lot of us have had bad experiences in public worlds with people acting mailiciously (crashers, people being jerks, etc) so once youve got friends to roll with you pretty much stick to invite+/friends worlds

jagged arrow
deft girder
#

Not everyone though I still love going to public worlds even after multiple years of playing, @delicate thicket when you select a world make sure you select a populated instance from the bottom row to join into

ancient sequoia
#

anyone wanna plzy amoung us in vrchat my user is vrchatkid65

delicate thicket
#

Thanks for the answers! I'll see if I can stick out public worlds until I can get into friend+ endgame with some good groups

ancient sequoia
#

anyone wanna plzy amoung us in vrchat my user is vrchatkid65 and is willing to use discord chat dm me plz

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dang it nvm

sleek thistle
#

I'm in a discord with 100 plus people, and we all play pretty regularly, and most of us are known or trusted users, so we avoid publics because of how toxic people in publics can be, or how loud it can get at times with so many people talking.

inner cape
#

thats the strat, to take over a public room with your friends so its not as chaotic

sleek thistle
#

We've done it before, but it just takes a couple bad apples to ruin the vibe.

modest tulip
#

Anyone know when exactly the number of avatars you can favorite is getting bumped to 25?

proud lance
#

When they are ready to release vrc+ it will happen

vestal pier
#

You can go in to the beta, fav the avatars you want, then come out of the beta and you will still have them favd

neon galleon
#

hello πŸ˜„

modest tulip
#

Gotcha. That's kinda what I figured but had hopes for a solid date. Oh well. Thank you!

vestal pier
#

you can have 25 favs, right now.

sleek thistle
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or 500, if you do a little research

umbral reef
#

Aka get risked of being clapped kekw

modest tulip
vestal pier
#

Yes.

modest tulip
#

oh shid

vestal pier
#

Go in the beta and you can have up to 25 favs that will carry over to the live build.

sleek thistle
umbral reef
sleek thistle
umbral reef
#

Oh plenty of the clients being used are not triggering the system
But it just takes some tweaks before another banwave happens as has happened in the past.

sleek thistle
umbral reef
#

Oh for sure, but there are heaps of reasons that i tbh cant be assed to get into as to why they arent yet.
They stated they want to start adding these things. But its easier said then done to make these things function right.
Not the hoddy shoddy patches and unoptimized/laggy systems most clients throw on users

wind zealot
#

hello, i just unfaved my favorite avatar accidentally, i know the name and the looks, but i cloned it from someone years ago, any way to find it?

umbral reef
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@wind zealot You will have to find someone who has it or try to find the creators world if they even have one.

wind zealot
#

and wtf...

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i just opened the menu and lost all favs now....

jaunty pumice
#

Welcome to VRC

wind zealot
#

when on reddit i saw someone say that they should add revenues for avatars, they really should honestly, like local ones

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torpid mason
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What the fuck is this vrc plus shit? Last month they fucked up big time with updates, saying well, it's still alpha after al. now they dare to ask money for this shit?

umbral reef
torpid mason
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Bruh I can't even properly join people in worlds when they invite me cuz it puts me into different instances, how about fixing that shit first.

vocal shard
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People are still going at it in here, huh

torpid mason
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No, that's beyond the point. Asking for money in the first place is a scam

umbral reef
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Is it?

torpid mason
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For what? Higher trust? What the fuck does that even mean.

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You can't base trust off of a paying person vs a free person

umbral reef
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Please explain how supporting an free service is bad
Not like they got money printers as servers

torpid mason
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It's not that, they already get money

inner cape
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they want more :^)

umbral reef
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And that money is the reason they need this system and cant spend months fixing the game 😳

torpid mason
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They're milking an unfinished project at this point and it's what's wrong with todays game devs, everyone is milking the shit out of people cuz there's no regulation on it.

umbral reef
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Investors dont give a sack of money without forcing you to implement or do things
They want thing sin return for that money

torpid mason
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Making the plus features probably cost them more time then it would take to fix the bugs

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I get that, but priorities are backwards here.

umbral reef
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Investors dont care about that~~

deft girder
torpid mason
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Investers are told before hand in what state the game is

prisma marlin
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I don't mind supporting the development but a 10$ monthly seems ridiculous. I have played the game for 3 years for free have over 1000 hours. They do need a way to monetize.

torpid mason
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They know what they got themselves into.

deft girder
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Yeah?

wind zealot
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is this chat always like this?

prisma marlin
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No

vocal shard
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Ever since the announcement, yeah

wind zealot
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and the slowdown?

deft girder
inner cape
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slow mode has been here for years

wind zealot
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oh nice, emojis locked out, what about link posting?

deft girder
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Depends on the channel

wind zealot
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this one, links being to discord emojis (cuz no nitro :)

umbral reef
# torpid mason They know what they got themselves into.

And they still put down the rules even with it being broken.
Nothing will change, its fairly simple, just dont pay for it.
The things locked behind it are stupidly limited right now anyway-
And now that a system like this in there, they can keep fixing bugs like they have for the past month+

prisma marlin
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Emoji got locked cause the spam of lemons

inner cape
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πŸ‹

prisma marlin
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^_^

inner cape
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speaking of lemons, what do they mean

vocal shard
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Wait, so what's the deal with the lemon

wind zealot
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to stop emoji spam you can get a bot that will mute anyone who spams over X emojis in Y time, it's not hard to do, and it's also free

umbral reef
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Its a refrence to an banned thing within VRchat
Some group spammed it because of that at first, people followed without realizing it.
After a while people realized you could get kicked/banned for posting/spamming it.
So they went to do it even more and it become an way to shitpost

vocal shard
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Banned thing within vrc?

cold talon
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combustible lemons

vocal shard
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Never heard about it before , so this is news to me

prisma marlin
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Likewise

wind zealot
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god english grammar, /F for you
I, as a Russian make less mostakes in words, but this is overkill

inner cape
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im guessing oclac is not allowed to mention what the thing is

umbral reef
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Its an client

vocal shard
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ahh

inner cape
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ah, classic

umbral reef
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Past that i dont even know myself as i got brainrot and cant remeber what others told me
Like im not even fully sure if its a client but close enough

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Talking about brainrot, my work shift is almost done.

wind zealot
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there still are custom vrc clients?

umbral reef
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They are all against the ToS but yea

wind zealot
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obviously that doesn't stop them

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BBD is an example of a discord one

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it's an abbreviation i am not goind to define

inner cape
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better discord vrcThinking

cold talon
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πŸ€” bandaged better discord?

wind zealot
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maybe vrcThinking

prisma marlin
cold talon
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also how come the slow mode is not 5 sec, its not like the chat is on fire anymore

inner cape
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it will be

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in approximately 26 minutes

cold talon
median atlas
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is there a way to see when (date) you added a certain frined?

prisma marlin
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i don't think so

median atlas
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or like some sort of way to download the data that vrc saves from you?

wind zealot
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is there a way to see world of an avatar(answer: also no*

median atlas
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obviously because avatrs are linked to accounts not to worlds bruh

inner cape
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it shows your blocks and mutes and how long ago you used them, my guess the friending is also somewhere out there, just gotta know where to look πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

wanton igloo
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guys

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can open beta play with non beta players?

umbral reef
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Nope

pale plinth
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Not usually, it works like any other update (like how you cant see people who havent updated their vrchat in a month)

torpid mason
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Imagine giving creditcard info to a company that can't even get account security correct or anti avatar thief

umbral reef
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Good thing your not giving it to VRC

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They use steams payment system and let them handle the payment stuff

torpid mason
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Still, why would you support this. I could agree with 2/3 dollars, but 10???? Bruh, you're depending on user generated content and asking money for that. an insane amount of money, while people's creations aren't even secure, easily ripped and shared. Plus there's been causes of people being able to grab players ip addresses

umbral reef
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If you find a way to stop the ripping let the team know
Or wait, dont as they will stop making the game and will be the first in the world to make an fool proof system against content ripping then

prisma marlin
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VPN and Friends + worlds vrcThinking

torpid mason
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Easy, encryption.

umbral reef
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Ah good! The team already uses it

torpid mason
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Clearly it isn't working.

umbral reef
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Because you dont understand what encryption is and how it works

torpid mason
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Chilloutvr seems to have it down though

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And yes, I do know what encrypting is.

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VRChat isn't encrypting anything.

deft girder
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The chilloutvr encryption is more just obfuscation which if they get any more popular would be broken by someone only reason why it hasn't been broken is that the platform isn't popular enough

umbral reef
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Ah yes the early acess game
That game with barely any people playing it
The only game in the world that apparently is immune to ripping when tripple A games arent even safe KEKW

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Its literally an numbers game, back when i started no one was able to rip VRC avatars because there where not enough people.

torpid mason
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Early acces?? Bruh, we're in alpha, vrchat is in alpha, we're listed on steam as early access only cuz steam doesnt have an public alpha listing.

umbral reef
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Alpha then, same things apply still

torpid mason
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Yeah that just backs up my point

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a 10 dollar sub for an alpha game

umbral reef
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Then dont pay it

inland knot
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then dont get the premium subscription