vrchat-general-2

[real sluice]

i havent done anything to the avatar...update game....boom dead

[languid beacon]

And your avatar works perfectly fine when you aren’t in full body?

[real sluice]

i havent done a full check on that tbh....but i tested it on desktop with my friend and it was working. but in fbt not. then later i read here it affects fbt

so i would say yeah i think i did check well enough

[languid beacon]

Then you can’t possibly know that it’s a full body issue.. Recommend testing it and regular VR and desktop let me know what you see

I guess it’s not going to work there either

[real sluice]

so you want me to go back and see : oh its a fbt issue still ? well then give me 5 min

nah nah give me 5 min. then judge me

[languid beacon]

No judgment just trying to make sense of it all

I am positive the FBT bugs were fixed

[real sluice]

5 min...have to close all steam vr stuffs and go desktop and test

seems like you were right. it didnt work either.....neither on a sdk 3 avatar with a older sdk 3 and neither on a avatar with a newer sdk 3

but the older one was perfectly working before

[languid beacon]

 OK it’s possible the bugs you have are related to the changes to write defaults 

[real sluice]

verify game files ?

[languid beacon]

That’s not something the devs are going to fix, you have to do it

[real sluice]

what do you mean write defaults ?

[languid beacon]

Did you upload the avatar you were testing

[real sluice]

yeah ?

[languid beacon]

Which layer has the animations that are not playing

[real sluice]

well they are not playing for others. for me they are working fine but others just cant see them

[languid beacon]

And this is happening regardless of fbt/vr/desktop?

[real sluice]

mind me...i taught all the stuff myself. sdk 2 and sdk 3 so i havent watched any videos or anything.....so stuff like write defaults or layers are confusing for me

apparently yeah

fbt and desktop didnt work

havent tested normal vr yet

[languid beacon]

I’m not seeing anything like that it is possible there’s some kind of issue with your set up. Could you tell me which layer has the animations that aren’t playing for your friends

[real sluice]

i still dont get whatu mean with layer :o do you mean what i put into the fx ?

[languid beacon]

When an animation plays for you but not someone else it’s usually the result of putting things on the wrong layer

For example FX is only for blend shapes and material swaps and stuff like that, bone movement shouldn’t go there. They won’t play for others. Only you.

[real sluice]

oh. iam basicly deacticating and activating meshes, as a gameobject in the animation. it worked fine that way before

i basicly switch clothes :3

[languid beacon]

Yes that is the correct use of FX layer

Make sure your FX layer has masks applied

[real sluice]

masks ? where do i see that ?

were can i post pics ? :o

[languid beacon]

#avatar-help 

[twin gale]

Can someone point in the right direction of a newer batman please?

[vocal shard]

--->

[twin gale]

Joke or i don't see it?

[boreal dome]

Anyone want to play the wdks horror experience later?

[runic kraken]

question, how exactly does the trust system work? what exactly levels you up? (i've been playing the game with a few friends, just exploring the worlds in private. i think we are all new user at this point. I want to publish a world for our group but friends are not able to visit it unless i explicitly invite them). I suspect you just "play the game" but i'm unsure if you'll need to explicitly visit public lobbies with other people and such

[boreal dome]

Time in game, faster way to get a higher trust system is to make avatars, etc.

[runic kraken]

ah i see. Interesting, thanks

[languid beacon]

It’s sort of a trade secret for the Devs they don’t want people to know how to game the system

[boreal dome]

Np

[languid beacon]

But the general consensus is that if you get muted, hidden, blocked, or votekicked, it goes down and will take longer

True or otherwise that’s what everyone is repeating

[runic kraken]

alright. Does being in public or friends+ lobbies matter? (or that you just you spend time in vrchat)

[languid beacon]

I honestly have no idea I do know that they have stated that just idling won’t help

[boreal dome]

^

[runic kraken]

alright, good to know. Well, i'll be playing some more with friends then. thanks

[languid beacon]

If it means anything I got orange at 152 hours and purple at 302 hours. When the trust system came out, they put me in green already, and I had 94 hours at the time

Most friends I’ve seen get blue at around 8

[runic kraken]

hm alright. I "only" have 42 hours

[grizzled narwhal]

Does vrchat headset users need headphones or computer?

I meant by both

[languid beacon]

VR headsets come with speakers and microphones built-in

They do need computers, except Oculus quest 1 and 2, which don’t

[dark gazelle]

well eh would argue the quest does

unless your fine with not seeing like more than half the avatars and tons of worlds arnt accessable

i use a quest but i use remote desktop to play pc vr chat wirelessly

[clear olive]

who wants to play vrc with me i have social anxiety so i cant play in group

[dark gazelle]

hmm i mean i would but im finding a avatar

[clear olive]

okay

[dark gazelle]

bc the one i used to always use broke for now till they fix the bugs

[clear olive]

dm me when you can?

[dark gazelle]

sorry but no

chances are someone else will be able to before me

[clear olive]

oof

[languid beacon]

unless your fine with not seeing like more than half the avatars and tons of worlds arnt accessable
@dark gazelle quest sort of has its own community and instances. But yeh when you go in crossplay you will see a lot of robots 

[clear warren]

Hi everyone

[clear olive]

ello

[jovial mango]

Hi

[clear olive]

ello

[jovial mango]

Call me mkay

So we can play vrchat

[clear olive]

ok

im calling answer

[grizzled narwhal]

Would u guys recommend me using valve index headset?

[clear olive]

it depends what you are looking for

[languid beacon]

If you’re the type to casually throw around $1000 for something because a random Internet person recommended it to you, yes I would absolutely recommend you get a valve index

[clear olive]

if its finger tracking yeah. but if its no cables then no

[clear warren]

I'm back

[clear olive]

okie

welcome back

[woeful elm]

My vrc world is blowing up :D

[clear warren]

Lol

[clear olive]

oof

[grizzled narwhal]

Yeah I think I might be getting valve index because I dont want everyone to be flying grey robots all the time and limiting the worlds I can go to

[languid beacon]

That’s controlled by your computer, not your headset

[dark gazelle]

i mean the quest does have tons of benifits

[languid beacon]

That’s all you’re worried about you should get a much cheaper one like a quest 2

[dark gazelle]

like i can still play wireless as long as im still on the same wifi as my headset

[clear olive]

yeah normally any pc headset would be good but it depends waht specs for your vision but if you connect it to a pc it would use the pc

[languid beacon]

The quest can see everything if it’s connected to a computer.

[dark gazelle]

yes

the quest can become a pc headset

it works just fine

[clear olive]

yeah definetly with the new quest 2 4k

[grizzled narwhal]

Ok so I should start with quest 2 for now

[languid beacon]

In my opinion, the real reason not get a quest 2 is if you don’t want to sign up or use Facebook. Or if you like the index’s larger field of view and it’s worth paying more than 3x the price to you

[dark gazelle]

yes

[rocky blaze]

i seriously hate when kids play this game that have an ego so far up their ass like who ever their parents are have never disciplined them, like a child that sounds 10 shouldn't be telling people to end them selfs like christ

[tulip pivot]

I mean I think you can block them

[boreal dome]

Anyone want to play the wdks horror experience later?

[zealous vigil]

how do you upload avatars and stuff?

finaly some americans or some one who speaks english
@autumn tide ?

[autumn tide]

just nvm forget that i said that

you wanna know sothing

[zealous vigil]

?

you wanna know sothing
@autumn tide about?

[autumn tide]

I have a friend that has the same user name in vrchat

[zealous vigil]

?

I have a friend that has the same user name in vrchat
@autumn tide mine?

[autumn tide]

yeah you're name

[zealous vigil]

whats their name? @autumn tide CinnamonOwO?

[autumn tide]

yes

[zealous vigil]

oh thats me lmao

@autumn tide ^

[languid citrus]

OwO

[zealous vigil]

my username is consistent in some platforms

[languid citrus]

oh?

[zealous vigil]

mhm

only on VRC, e621 and Discord for now, havent updated the username anywhere else yet

[languid citrus]

wats e621

[zealous vigil]

you do not wanna know tbh

[shut zodiac]

[languid citrus]

is it nsfw?

[granite sphinx]

ok so avatar cloning is bugged

[languid beacon]

Yeah I haven't been able to clone for a while.

[granite sphinx]

some weird bug

[autumn tide]

huh same thing has been happing to me i go to quick menu and i cant select anyone

[honest forge]

thats been a bug for like 4 months

[obsidian crag]

why does vrc randomly load maps at 50kb/s for no reason

[grim kindle]

When loading into worlds my game occasionally says 100% but the download says 0mb is there a way to fix this because I keep having to reset

[obsidian crag]

until you restart

[safe horizon]

can somebody help me ill get the world thats says were sorry and something ekse ;-; i wanna play .-. please tell me if you know

[shut zodiac]

[night lava]

according to my friend, none of my 3.0 avatars' toggles are working

tested em all with them, nothing.

[rancid vessel]

My friend has the Quest 2 and is wondering how do you jump? Anybody know?

[rotund arch]

its the X button

[languid beacon]

Looking at some of my earlier messages. I'm banning myself from using iOS discord until they fix that  obj thing.

[muted wharf]

Surprisingly, it's even the [obj] thing on Mac :v

Apple equivalent of [object Object] I guess

[languid beacon]

I think it's discord's fault, they have their own custom keyboard and text entry so they can have their special emojis, but I think they didn't handle Siri's control codes or something and just send it as text.

[muted wharf]

Discord has their own keyboard on ios that overrides the system keyboard?

[languid beacon]

Looking again.. emoji button is lined up with the text entry bar, so it's actually discord's not apples. Keyboard is just apples. blends seamlessly

[vocal shard]

Holy cow, vr chat is insane!

[digital spade]

Just a small appreciation shoutout to the VRChat team for working on this game. Y'all mvps. ♥️

[cursive coral]

😐

[digital olive]

I was just wondering if anyone knows or has any good sailor moon avatars? If you do could u dm me the work or avatar link since I have this server muted so my phone doest die from constant notifications.

[vocal shard]

i seriously hate when kids play this game that have an ego so far up their ass like who ever their parents are have never disciplined them, like a child that sounds 10 shouldn't be telling people to end them selfs like christ
@rocky blaze I just try to talk to people and be nice lol

[sharp saddle]

Where'd that come from?

[spiral notch]

yo

[vital gull]

He might be talking about kid trolls.

[spiral notch]

its true about that some kids do that happended to me yesterday

[vital gull]

Young kids mouthing off has been an issue, since voice chat started in videogames.

Some people find it funny, but you can always block, mute or report someone if they won't leave you alone.

[cunning sierra]

Lois Griffin gaming back at it again

[vital gull]

Back at what?

[digital spade]

at it again can't you read :V

[golden nova]

hi

[vocal shard]

Hi

hi

[gentle musk]

hi

[unkempt field]

Hi

[vocal shard]

ok who here has a good understanding of types of vrheadsets

i have a weird quest 2 related question

[steady copper]

I what’s up with it

[vocal shard]

ok whats the difference between a quest 2 connected to pc mode and a rift s (since the quest 2 uses the pc hardware when connected to it)

[harsh star]

They're identical aside from just the hardware they shipped with. Both use inside-out tracking and the Oculus Home. Rift S may be clearer because Oculus Link is operating at Quest 1 resolution (which can be modified).

Rift S uses DisplayPort, and Oculus Link is just any USB interface.

Both access the same software.

[broken plover]

altough some people prefer the rift s for pcvr because of the comfort

[modern hill]

Imagine buying rift s for comfort lmao

[amber juniper]

Imagine buying an Oculus device ;)

seriously, every oculus user (quest, quest2, rift CV1, rift S) that I've met has regular crashes of the oculus software...

[harsh star]

Tell that to r/OculusQuest
No software is free from crashes. SteamVR is just as or worse with bugs and occasional crashes. It's VR.

[vocal shard]

i never had any issue with the oculus software crashing

[steady copper]

i never had any issue with the oculus software crashing
@vocal shard same no issues

[vocal shard]

it's usually steamVR that decide to scuff up and I have to restart it

and then it's fine again for a few hours

[harsh star]

Only twice that I can remember years ago with the Rift CV1, but never since.

[amber juniper]

I never had a crash of steamVR. But all my friends who use an Oculus device have frequent crashes, and everyone I talked about it had it. Maybe it has to do with hardware configurations, but it's just bad... and now the Facebook stuff on top...

[steady copper]

Lol i actually like the quest 2

[amber juniper]

it's probably the same like AMD GPU's, the hardware is actually really good, but the drivers/software is just bad...

[steady copper]

I only have a problem when there’s loads of pc players with mad avatars it gets abut laggy

[amber juniper]

well, that's just because most users don't care about performance but just complain about it ;)

[steady copper]

I don’t care I just enjoy myself an that’s all that matters 😂😂

Iv only ever had lag not crashed

[shut zodiac]

my headset actually works and I still get crashed

[modern hill]

seriously, every oculus user (quest, quest2, rift CV1, rift S) that I've met has regular crashes of the oculus software...
@amber juniper so true omg but i figured out my issue lol, it's mostly just usbpowersettings in device manager that crashes it

Lmao

[vocal shard]

steam has a developer menu for that btw
fixed my 2.0 basestations never turning off 💦
(sorry I forget not everyone uses steamvr)

[west yoke]

It's mixed a bit on that subject. Plus you also have to consider that users having issues are more likely to say something over someone who has none.
In my friend group, most of which have a Oculus headset (most of us have a CV1) only one person had issues and that was the guy with the Rift S, I helped him solve his issue so the only problem he has now is the robotic microphone issue.

[amber juniper]

as I said, everybody I've met has issues. I don't have any oculus devices, (OG Vive here, soon to be an index) so I don't have any experiance with it. But if you compile everything together, I do think that it's not a wise decision to buy an oculus Headset. There aren't that many pros to it. If it works for, that's great ;)

[harsh star]

CV1 and OG Vive, now Quest 2 here

What made me want it isss...
Existing Quest library, Quest 2 enhanced games, all of Sidequest, WebXR, Oculus (PC) exclusives, SteamVR library, all of the headset's upgrades and support for native android apps. Oculus Link and Virtual Desktop. Shadow PC.

100 Quest titles installed and 45,000* retro games (multiple regions) for emulation on the headset right now.

[west yoke]

single core performance helps but the game is not only single core.
However I'd say having more then 6 cores is not going to really help you in VRChat.

Pretty sure the 8700k is a bit better in that regard.
If you can I'd wait as AMD dropped Zen3 not too long ago

[shut zodiac]

[west yoke]

Oh if you have both already then yeah just use the 8700k for VRChat

[vocal shard]

3800xt due to the higher base core speed

[cold talon]

higher base speed :nothanks:

[vocal shard]

hm

[cold talon]

5ghz on a 8700k damn nice

ah i see, not dealing with intels shiddy tim

all the 5900x are out of stock sadly

there are some 5950x tho

at least last time i checked, leme see again

[vocal shard]

ok so basically all that bullshit with quest. i cant go to worlds and i cant see avatars. and the crash bs is just gone with the quest 2 if you connect it with the pc? @harsh star

[cold talon]

ah nvm, its out of stock now

[vocal shard]

i have a good pc i just dont know what i got to do?

[cold talon]

😔

damn yeah, only one store has 5800x too

everything else is just gone

[harsh star]

@vocal shard yupp, once you connect it to your PC and have Oculus's software installed you'll be running the PC version. It's pretty great.

Purchase Virtual Desktop if you want to connect without the headset cable. But I also have Oculus Link and both are fine, need to do one thing to bump up the cable resolution though.

[vocal shard]

cool

its 100 euros cheaper so thats a win for me

[modern hill]

@amber juniper lol the reason I went with oculus back then is because the controllers wore just so much better but like now i don't see a reason except the good price

[cold talon]

dang, they dont sell outside my country

[broken plover]

there's one store selling it for like 587,25€ here

[cold talon]

newegg has one but its 750 😔

wonder why they axed newegg from EU tho, used it to order before with no issues

[ruby tiger]

waiting for 5950X to get 3 more frames per second

*when not looking at a mirror

[modern hill]

Lmao

[cold talon]

nah gotta wait for the 7000 series

32 cores 64 threads at 6.1ghz turbo

[broken plover]

I want 64 cores and 128 threads at 10ghz tho

[ruby tiger]

and the rtx 10090 (with 25GB ram)

[cold talon]

make it 48gb

[ruby tiger]

thats consumer market

[cold talon]

oh right the super version is 48

[broken plover]

thats not enough to render 8k textures at 16k resolution

[ruby tiger]

just upscale it from 640x480

[broken plover]

lol

[cold talon]

ray tracing my glorious 50 material avatar

[ruby tiger]

only 50?

[broken plover]

you forgot a 0 bahka

[ruby tiger]

and that avatar spawns the devouring world on one gesture

[cold talon]

pff

[broken plover]

imagine the filesize of an avatar with that map

[ruby tiger]

how big is devouring again?

[broken plover]

i think 300mb or something

[gusty vortex]

Do someone knows why may be that my Oculus Rift S not detecting my base stations? :/ (My HTC vive detects all well, but not my Oculus Rift S...)

[ruby tiger]

How should it detect something it doesn't support

[cold talon]

leme download the world really quick and check

[gusty vortex]

You can use vive trackers with oculus headshets too

[broken plover]

the vive trackers detect the lighthouses in a setup like that

[ruby tiger]

Sure, but your Rift S won't detect them at all

If you need help with your trackers, then look at pins in #full-body-tracking and ask if you still need help there

[gusty vortex]

Okay

[shut zodiac]

coco

[cobalt sparrow]

[molten gale]

I mean I do get 50 in most worlds or better

But im actually gpu bottlenecked

because I play at 176% supersampling on index

[clear warren]

Sounds fun

[molten gale]

I need a 3080 man

[clear warren]

I'll be able to run any VR once I get my graphics card I'm getting a 20 Jen

[molten gale]

You can play vr with a 1060 3gb

[clear warren]

And if you want to talk about pc VRs I'm going to have to use my old HTC Vive

[molten gale]

ouch

[clear warren]

But I will eventually upgrade to valvindex

Hey I got to work with what I got here

[molten gale]

tru

[clear warren]

So doesn't the valv index come with its own full body tracking

[molten gale]

no?

[clear warren]

Like you set them up in you're room a different height levels and it tracks your feet and hips and stuff

[molten gale]

????

[clear warren]

I'm confused

Might be an add-on

[harsh star]

No FBT with just the Index

[cold talon]

index has finger tracking

[clear warren]

Ik

[molten gale]

Youre thinking decagear I think

[clear warren]

Maybe

[regal furnace]

i still think the decagear is fake tbh

[molten gale]

I dont trust that headset one bit either

Too good to be true

[clear warren]

But like I was thinking of getting a wire ran through my entertainment center on the ceiling a very small one that allows me to basically go anywhere in my room that I want without getting tangled in a cord

[west yoke]

I'd be glad for decagear to prove us all wrong but I'm in agreement with that

[regal furnace]

full body tracking, face tracking, finger tracking, inside out tracking, 2k per eye for just 450 sounds very fishy

[clear warren]

We'll never know till it comes out

[west yoke]

indeed

[clear warren]

We'll have to wait till the first tester of it can prove it or whatever

[molten gale]

Linus Sebastian of Linus Tech Tips shall be the first tester /s

[clear warren]

Right now I'm rocking a quest one with a bunch of add-ons like my battery pack elite strap and my custom controller grips

[regal furnace]

i rather think sebastian from mrtv will be first

[harsh star]

Don't think I'll ever purchase a tethered-to-PC headset again after getting the Quest 2

[regal furnace]

i dont really mind the cable

pulley system goes brrrrr

[harsh star]

the other day I ran off to my balcony to play VRChat and it's pretty good to not have to stay in line of sight of sensors

[raw creek]

The full body on deca is just a hip tracker though. And from what I’ve seen it seems possible it’s only a 3 dof tracker anyways (but do not quote me on this, I’m just making a guess from what little we’ve known)

[molten gale]

it is a 3dof tracker

[raw creek]

Ah. So yeah if you want deca for full body you are going to be disappointed.
The other features do seem wild for the price still though, I am looking forward to whether or not it’s authentic

[neat perch]

even i turned off cloning avatar
they can keep cloning...
what should i do?

[ruby tiger]

if the avatar is public you can't do anything

[molten gale]

Cloning is broken atm

Turning it on also doesnt work

gotta rejoin for it to work i think

[neat perch]

THANK U

[hollow ingot]

Anyone with Zen 3... hecc, how well does this game run for you?!

[odd blaze]

if you have bad fps , try limiting vrchat to 4-6 cores

[honest forge]

i dont got that many cores lol

[honest forge]

is there server maintenance going on? my pings at like 920 somehow

[modern hill]

dunno

[shadow saddle]

Hello, how do I move without teleporting in VRChat? I'm on Oculus Quest 2

[unkempt field]

How do you teleport though?

[cold talon]

you have to change the locomotion type

[vocal shard]

I just got off, the ping seemed fine

[shadow saddle]

you have to change the locomotion type
@cold talon how do you do that? I dont see anything in game settings?

[vocal shard]

Top left in the menu settings

[north ridge]

imagine your social list not loading in

[hollow ingot]

@odd blaze I already have a program that does that for me whenever I start up VRChat (4 cores) on my 3700x. I want info about whether the single-core perf. there on the Zen 3 is best for VRC.

[odd blaze]

4-6 seems to be good , had some with over that and they go abysmal fps for ? reason

you dont want 2 or less, swap it while in vrchat and ugh hurts :p

[north ridge]

is it just me or ever since the new updates my social list doesnt even update because its not there

[clear warren]

It might be you because my social list has been pretty good

[broken cobalt]

anyone having issues with legs going cross like abaout to pee self?

[sleek sparrow]

check your trackers, miggt have to power cycle your feet

usually means the game lost one and is only picking up 2

also check steam vr. sometimes the tracker gets reported offset and you have to restsrt steam vr

[north ridge]

@clear warren So yeah I had to restart the game, but this happens every time I launch

[cobalt sparrow]

sb know where find very tall avatar?

[lusty trail]

idk what’s up with my game everyone else seems to be lagging around, choppy, and when i crouch it just totally snaps. any ideas?

[sleek sparrow]

yes

ive reinstalled several times to fix issues

only takes a couple seconds to redownload

[honest forge]

I don’t know about that last part lol

[sleek sparrow]

i could record myself reinstalling if you wish lol

[clever sandal]

As a new user the mirrors was a thing that I did not like in VRChat, many sit in front of it for VRChat lack a 3rd person view, if someone is giving you a virtual hug you do not see this, all you see is someone come close to you and then turn invisible, not for the private settings but rather that things close to you are clipped. So why do VRChat no 3rd person view? The mirror was a lag-machine for me, I manage turn it on in a Furry conference and within some seconds my Physical memory was at 100 % usage. But it still a fun app and fun to use.

[broken plover]

how would 3rd person work in vr? for desktop its no problem at all. Some world creators even put a first person mode into their world for desktop users. But 3rd person doesn't really work in vr when you're controlling your avatar as if it's yourself

[runic hound]

@clever sandal Sounds like you have personal space enabled. Turn it off and they won't turn invisible

[sleek sparrow]

you can turn off the personal bubble thing so that avatars dont disappear when they approach

i did that day one cause i thought it was stupid

[clever sandal]

A mirror is like a 3rd person view, you just move the the camera back a bit so you can see you from the back, this is when you want to see how it look when you move or dance, but is not a thing to use all the time.

[broken plover]

they only disappear due to clipping when you or they are using a mciroscopically small avatar

[sleek sparrow]

and mirrors double the world render. if you can barely run the world normally, you are not going to be able to play with a mirror on lol

people hug me all the time and i see it no different than i would irl

yeah obv they gonna clip through your view camera at some point cause no collision but still

[clever sandal]

@runic hound No, I do not have personal space enabled, that was the first thing I turned off in VRChat, it is the clipping when you see through a shoulder or when you want to point at your face but the hand look like it go through your face.

[runic hound]

yes exactly, mirrors are fine in a properly optimized world. I even have 6 mirrors running simultaneously in one of my worlds, without problems 🙂

[sleek sparrow]

well first you gotta learn where your face is

[runic hound]

ah I see, camera clipping. you will get used to it

[sleek sparrow]

if you are using anime, then heads are usually 1.5 to 3 times as big as a human's

[broken plover]

I only have clipping issues with tiny avatars. Even smaller ones like kon don't have this clipping issue for me

[runic hound]

they talked about having touchable avatars in the future, maybe that will change things

[sleek sparrow]

also remember that girls have boobs, so keep that in mind pointing at your chest perhaps

[broken plover]

so if its happening with a normal sized avatar then something's bugged

[viscid seal]

Kenny, are you using vr or desktop? (just curious as I imagine opinions on this would vary a lot based on that)

[sleek sparrow]

its easy for me to remember the head thing because my headset actually makes my head match my avatar's size pretty well

[runic hound]

gets out notebook, makes notes girls have boobs, useful info

[clever sandal]

Yes, the tiny avatars was horrible, one time it clipped in a way that made it hard to see the handheld menu and I wish I could go to a 3rd person view 🙂

I am testing both VR and Desktop now, I would like 3rd person in Desktop mode as in Second Life.

[sleek sparrow]

yeah i have one of shinmyoumaru from touhou. it has this weird thing where there are no normals on the backs of the triangles, so its perfectly visible to everyone else, but not you. also its like not even an inch tall lol

[viscid seal]

that'll be up to world creators, the tools exist for 3rd person cameras on desktop

[clever sandal]

@viscid seal Oh, that sounds interesting.

[heady dew]

It;s been a while since I played VRChat, wasn't there a way to search public avatars?

[sleek sparrow]

yes

go to avatar screen, use search

but its better to just look for worlds

[heady dew]

Well it doesn;t work

[rich matrix]

h e l l o

[sleek sparrow]

maybe it was removed then

i mean the ones in that search sucked anyways

[broken plover]

it was never a feature to directly search for avatars

[heady dew]

I mean the search option is there but grayed out

[sleek sparrow]

yeah it used to not be

[broken plover]

you always had to search for avatar worlds if you wanted to find public avatars

[heady dew]

oh

[rich matrix]

Where do you get the avatars with the cool intros :p

[viscid seal]

Kennylex, I believe Japan Shrine has a 3rd person camera feature 🤔 Someone can correct me if I have the wrong world in mind

[broken plover]

Where do you get the avatars with the cool intros :p
"cool" intros? Theyre just annoying to most people. So if you show up to a public instance using one of those, prepare to get your avatar hidden by most people or even blocked

[viscid seal]

is any intro on an avatar cool? XD

oh nico beat me to it XD

[clever sandal]

The only thing I do not like with the VRChat avatars is that there was no way to customize them as there is in Sansar and Second Life, like you getting one avatar and then can other design clothes and so to it that can be used to make you more personal, now I often run into other folk looking like me.

[viscid seal]

you can customize but just not directly in game

[sleek sparrow]

yeah i aint gonna condone the use of those avatars so imma shut up. the only ones i use are basic touhou avatars anyways cause they dont have emotes

maybe dont pick a popular avatar?

nobody looks like me

[rich matrix]

oh

bc my friend made me an avatar

[sleek sparrow]

cause what the fuck is a 2hu, amirite?

[rich matrix]

but it keeps crashing me.

[clever sandal]

Got a kid ava in a 3.0 Avatar place, I made the jacket black, but as fast I went to a new place my avatar was back to standard.

[sleek sparrow]

your computer is probably not good enough for it

or your friend has no idea how to optimize

[heady dew]

by cool intros you mean shaders? If so there are not that cool

[rich matrix]

oh

[grand zenith]

The only thing I do not like with the VRChat avatars is that there was no way to customize them as there is in Sansar and Second Life, like you getting one avatar and then can other design clothes and so to it that can be used to make you more personal, now I often run into other folk looking like me.
@clever sandal
Make your own original avatar?

[viscid seal]

Kenny, thats normal. The avatar controls reset per world

[grand zenith]

I mean I haven't seen a single person who looks similar like me at all.

[viscid seal]

for permanent changes, you make your own avatar and upload it to your account

[grand zenith]

For over a year

[heady dew]

I tried making some avatars in the past, always had issues with the lighting and camera position so I gave up

[viscid seal]

just like second life you can make your own models and turn it into an avatar

[heady dew]

But this is a fun experience

[sleek sparrow]

yeah i cant model for shit. its why i dont make worlds

programming is easy

[viscid seal]

I'm the exact opposite to you High 😄

[sleek sparrow]

but unless yall like unity primitives, i aint gonna get started anytime soon

[grand zenith]

As someone who's done programming for almost 11 years as a hobby

[viscid seal]

I can do art, but logic is where I struggle 😛

[grand zenith]

It ain't easy to get into for new people.

[sleek sparrow]

you should see this pinball game i made in unity once. all with the primitives menu

[grand zenith]

Unless you have a native talent for simply understanding it.

[broken plover]

I only saw a person using the same premade avatar I used, but a bit bigger and with different shaders. Also was the standard version of the avatar. My friend put my real life hoodie on my avatar

[sleek sparrow]

but hey, it got me an A on my uni assignment

[viscid seal]

I've never met anyone using the character I use from the same game (seen a few from a different game of it XD)

[clever sandal]

I will make my own avatar, but for a new user that is not an option, at least not when you need to install programs that huge just to upload them, I think Unity and all MS programs you need to it is larger than Blended, Substance painter together 🙂

[viscid seal]

actually, never seen anyone using any character from it 😭

[sleek sparrow]

ive seen other touhou avatars, but its always from EoSD. cirno, flandre, maybe a rumia or sakuya

once i saw tenshi. once.

[grand zenith]

@clever sandal What do you mean not an option? All you need is Unity and Blender in theory

Combined it should be under 7 Gigs.

[sleek sparrow]

ive had a couple people recognize mine though. most people just call me christmas anime

[viscid seal]

😄

[clever sandal]

@grand zenith How many of your friends can 3D and know how to use Unity? That is an option few will use, but many still want a more personal avatar.

[sleek sparrow]

i mean its kinda inevitable when you masquerade as the god of curses https://en.touhouwiki.net/images/5/51/Th10Hina.png

[viscid seal]

Kenny, there is a whole market of avatar commissions

if you don't want to spend time making one yourself

[grand zenith]

I'd say around 40% of my friends are skilled in solo work using those programs. with a few being personally thought by me and I'm always open to teach them aswell but if leave the option to them.

[sleek sparrow]

well, misfortune technically but in touhou it may as well be a curse

[viscid seal]

a lot of my friends started unity for first time with vrchat, me included 😄

[grand zenith]

Friends who do not want to learn how to do it just ask me to help them or do it for them.

[viscid seal]

but not everyone has the time to dedicate to learning new software, so you can consider commissioning avatar creators to make one for you 🙂

[sleek sparrow]

i started with unity to make games, but soon realized that unreal is the way to go. unity is fun to screw around with however

[grand zenith]

just ask me to help them or do it for them.

@viscid seal same thing

Not gonna ask my friends for money xD

[sleek sparrow]

its mostly little qol things that make me like unreal more, but yeah i dont have time to learn a new engine so i stick with unity

[clever sandal]

For Sansar and Second Life users there is the option that is missing, the ability to change, to just design a new avatar for you want a new shirt one day sounds a bit strange. And I still see that VRChat would be able to get this. And it open up for users to sell maore things, to get a new market in VRChat.

Would it not be cool if creators could sell things directly in VRChat?

[viscid seal]

I think its something they eventually want to do

[sleek sparrow]

uh no

[viscid seal]

but vrc is still early access

[grand zenith]

Thats not how it works.

[sleek sparrow]

imagine paywalls on avatars lol

[viscid seal]

there's a ton of things for them to do before an ingame market is ever made

there's already a big market for avatar and world commissions

[grand zenith]

The system they created is focussed on giving creators the freedom to do whatever they want Which is ironic with some of their actions

[viscid seal]

I have people making a living just making worlds

[grand zenith]

That market exists for people who are too lazy and or don't want to do it it's a choice

[viscid seal]

they quit their job to just do world commissions

[clever sandal]

YES. Early access is great, that is why I often talk about things that may be a part of the future, it do not need to be, but ideas are great for inspiration too 😄

[viscid seal]

so a proper ingame system to support those creators I think will be nice

right now, its mostly done through booth & vket

for premade content to buy

and then twitter/discord for direct commissions

[regal furnace]

now that i see lakuza, i still havent managed to solve the puzzle at the lounge xd

[viscid seal]

😁

DMs are open as long as we're in a mutual discord so feel free to ask for hints if you ever go back there

[clever sandal]

Now let me ask. I did get a small sheep avatar by copying it from a person (I did feel so rude), but as fast as jut rested a finger slightly on a button (Oculus quest controller) is started to dance and play music, it was very annoying, it was cute but I removed it from favorites for I did not want to twerk just for resting a finger to close to a button. Is there any way to configure the controller buttons and is there any good controller customization tips and tricks to use that are commin in VRChat?

[viscid seal]

the avatar controls menu lets you disable hand gestures

which is most likely what was causing that dance to happen

the same way you would have toggled a black shirt on, in that radial menu you'll find this setting

[clever sandal]

Can be a bit annoying now when I explore worlds to find favorites, so I use one of the old avatars to not enter a world like a twerking sheep 😄

[languid beacon]

Second Life is the perfect example, VRChat staff should look at it and do the exact opposite of everything they do in order to be successful.

[viscid seal]

XD

[clear warren]

Hello everyone

I just got off of VR chat it was a fun time

A lot of nice people I just met they all helped me cope with my problem

I truly love this community VR chat is an amazing place ❤️

[languid beacon]

@clever sandal SL’s fully dynamic content is the reason it’s average FPS is 22. And that’s on a good day. That doesn’t fly in virtual reality where anything below 45 will make you sick.

[sleek sparrow]

*can, not will

not everyone is prone to motion sickness

[grand zenith]

Bruh you deadass wanting to accept 22 FPS being the norm??

[languid beacon]

I don’t think you have experienced VR in 22 fps if you think you could handle it

[sleek sparrow]

i have

[clever sandal]

Second Life and Sansar is good and different, Second Life have a whole economical system and a great market, but it is a Virtual World not made for VR and that have trouble convert to VR. Sansar is taking goal on virtual entertainment, have few users for now, but they are using same economical platform as SL (I think), so I think VRChat could find inspiration there, all are great platforms. I am mostly in SL for I been there 12 years and have it as a social platform, I use VRChat for... I do not know, it was just fun and even some trolls in the more public areas have made smile, I love the randomness I ran into in VRChat.

[sleek sparrow]

some of us dont have that issue

[grand zenith]

Fuck Motion sickness I don't want to play a game with 20 FPS especially in VR

Whats the point of that

[sleek sparrow]

i have a gtx 2080 super and 10th gen i7. 22 fps isnt that uncommon with 20+ players around

and i used to play vr on a worse machine too

[clear warren]

@grand zenith I like a higher FPS sadly I'm still running on a quest but I am very tolerant to motion sickness I will not get motion sick at all in VR

[languid beacon]

I used Sansar extensively I’m not sure how it gets any praise from anyone

[clear warren]

I will say the only time I've ever been really motion sick is when I accidentally got into a huge diva's hand and she shake the living life out of me

[grand zenith]

First of all. RTX not GTX. Second of all I don't know what kind of unoptimized worlds you've been in but me with a 2080TI Still has 45FPS with the same amount of people.

And just because you don;t mind 20 FPS doesn't mean you should force your norm on others.

[sleek sparrow]

im used to games with sub 24 fps

[grand zenith]

You are

[languid beacon]

Sansar did NOT have dynamic content. It was more locked down, pre-uploaded scenes than VRChat. Even the scripting was super limited

[sleek sparrow]

i spin in circles all the time, both with the right stick and physically. nothing more than the usual dizziness that comes with spinning so much lol

i also physically jump and spin too. no issues there

[clever sandal]

Tips to test for folk that can get motion sickness: Sit down in a chair that can swirl around, then try to keep the head straight forward, if you need to turn you just use you feet on the floor to turn the chair. This worked for me in games like "Obduction".

[languid beacon]

Obduction ❤️

[sleek sparrow]

obduction is good but i hope they improve their vr stuff for myst and that other game

[languid beacon]

Hype for Myst VR and Firmament

[sleek sparrow]

firmament with its gesture controls looks promising

[clever sandal]

Myst is a must.

[sleek sparrow]

and itd be nice to play myst yet again

be even nicer if they coughed up some cash and remade riven

[languid beacon]

Myst is probably just going it be a faithful remake in unreal graphics and nothing more

[sleek sparrow]

its probably just a reimplimentation of realmyst masterpiece

doesnt look any different graphically

[languid beacon]

be even nicer if they coughed up some cash and remade riven
@sleek sparrow uh... This upcoming Myst rebranding was confirmed to be the precursor to Riven also being done in unreal. It’s 100% confirmed

[sleek sparrow]

fuck yeah

[clever sandal]

There is so many old games I want to see remade with modern technology.

Why not recreate Pitfall in VR chat 😄

[sleek sparrow]

i have the original 5 disc set for riven. ended up ripping all the discs into a single folder so i didnt have to swap

myst 6? really?

or would it be 7

is uru considered 6?

[timid cape]

flobbert

[sleek sparrow]

really though they dont need the myst branding. they have proven to be able to make sick standalone worlds

they are just really good at world design

[languid beacon]

They said that after Obduction and firmament they want to get back to their original franchise for a bit

[sleek sparrow]

i mean im not complaining but hey if it means more high quality puzzle games from the granddaddy company of them all, im for it

im always worried they are gonna go bankrupt cause its not like they are that popular these days

[languid beacon]

The crowdfund everything

[sleek sparrow]

yeah thats what i mean

[languid beacon]

If they don’t get the funds they don’t make it

[clever sandal]

Is it okay to post related links here to for an example Youtube, I saw a video where someone have a secondary side view of their avatar.

[languid beacon]

They’ve proven to be very respectful with the funds

[sleek sparrow]

oh definitely, but if they have to crowdfund everything, makes me wonder how much money they actually have

[languid beacon]

They sort of have a cult fan base with deep pockets

[sleek sparrow]

true. ill buy every one of their games. shame i didnt know uru existed in its heyday though

what i would like to see is better in game not taking features. like in game note pad or a super quick screenshot album. obduction had this but its kinda clunky to get to

i was playing the witness, and had to keep my steam screenshots folder open on the side the whole time

firmament reminds me of riven

so you said they got the rights back to 3 and 4. are they still missing the rights to 5 then?

[languid beacon]

Yeah they are going to look at the Myst VR sales and from that it’s basically going to determine their budget for Riven VR, but they’ve already confirmed it after Firmament

[sleek sparrow]

sure but you said they had to rebuy the rights. are they still missing 5?

[languid beacon]

They always owned five

[vocal shard]

Just a question,anyone got a oculus headset and wanna hop on?

[sleek sparrow]

why oculus specifically?

[languid beacon]

Some think that it’s not cross play

[fading flower]

what

its pc, and a social game, why would it not be cross play with different vr?

[languid beacon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Beat saber isn’t.

[sleek sparrow]

hope someone mods beat saber multiplayer to work with custom songs. the mod mp was so much better

[ruby needle]

Please keep this channel VRChat related.

[cosmic blade]

Hi, i have a question is there a way to change name in the vrchat mine seems to use my fb name which i dont want to use. thanks

[ruby needle]

Make a VRChat account.

[cosmic blade]

i did try that but it wont let me sign in through the VR.

[summer hound]

Does anyone know if stream labs OBS works with Omegle while on vrchat?

[broken plover]

what do you want to do? Like use obs virtual cam to use your vrchat avatar as a webcam for omegle? If yes then that should work

[summer hound]

Like how minikane does it?

When he records omegle while on vrc

I know that you have to use a stream camera for people to see you in the game

I couldn't find anyone that has actually figured it out or if it does work

Yea but would that work with stream labs?

[queen jetty]

Idk

[summer hound]

I know it uses the same software but I'm just making sure if it does work like how Mr bubblz and minikane does it

I don't know that you stream labs for Omegle while doing VR chat though

[queen jetty]

Oh ive never seen there vids sorry

[summer hound]

It's ok

[queen jetty]

I could explain how i done it if u want

Wait nvm i forgot

[summer hound]

Oh great....

Well, I can't really find anyone who can help me

I tried about 3 servers about now

[vocal shard]

excuse me i have a question

Any discord groups that like to chill and drink ALC on Fridays?

[hollow mirage]

anyone know where I would post a commission request for a scratch made avatar? I wanna make my fusona and have a 10 month old and don't have the time nor the patience to learn to myself.

[vocal shard]

vrc traders in #community-servers-old

[ruby needle]

https://ask.vrchat.com/c/commissions

[latent widget]

How are spolight worlds chosen? are some removed as well? I've seen some really old worlds in spotlight since 2018 lol

[steady kayak]

i know this is a bit of a silly question. I really like vrc but why are things like toby eye tracking still not available?

even if its niche.. isnt it wise to like... kick off some niche aspects of the vr industry so they can grow?

[regal furnace]

and who is gonna process eye tracking?

[steady kayak]

its just bone movement in 2 axis

its not heavy

its about the same as 2 fingers on an index :b

coupled eyelids can save a lot if it's essential to keep the data minimal

[regal furnace]

a friend of mine already did implement eye tracking into vrchat, and he said it was an extra 20% CPU usage

[steady kayak]

thats huge.. that doesn't make sense. although I thought tobi eye tracking is done on board.

[regal furnace]

the moving itself is not even the biggest problem

[steady kayak]

maybe its the implementation? I can't imagine it being 20%

[regal furnace]

its the continues recording of both eyes, analyzing them and outputting them in a good time with good results

[steady kayak]

you could reduce the tick rate on updates to bring cpu overhead down.. like you only get a certain amount of updates with fbt as well so

[languid beacon]

Does steamVR even natively support eye tracking?

[steady kayak]

that is a good question

[regal furnace]

it still will be a lot for the CPU to process

and VRchat already brings my CPU to its limits

[steady kayak]

thats super odd although i bet it would only be for the local user in that case.. the transmitted data would just be like.. eye movement

[languid beacon]

I’d think it would be on SteamVR to process eye tracking and simply represent it as a single point in space for games to access.

[steady kayak]

i think it goes out of bounds of what steamvr was designed to do

[languid beacon]

I don’t.

[steady kayak]

like it seems to be implented in unity and unreal instead of steamvr

it makes sense though because steamvr itself wouldnt take advantage of it

[languid beacon]

What I am saying is, SteamVR should want whatever eyetracking tech you use to just do its own thing and tell SteamVR your lookat coordinate. And that’s all it wants, and that’s all it gives games.

[steady kayak]

this might be one of those areas where openvr just hasnt considered it properly yet.. maybe.. im not sure but even steamvr has no mention of eye control

[languid beacon]

At the end of the day it’s just a streaming position coordinate

[steady kayak]

absolutely

so im weirded out it should be heavy.. i mean unless processing is done on the pc.. which would be so silly

[modest comet]

does anyone know how to fix the gestures on avatar not working in game? its like broken for me even public avatars fingers arent moving

[languid beacon]

Do you have gestures disabled on your wheel menu

[steady kayak]

oh lol you got the gesture lock on

[modest comet]

oof

guess i did by accident

[dark tangle]

Anyone here play vrchat

[sour delta]

Nah, i dont think no one does here

[dark tangle]

Oh ok cya

I need to find a server which plays vrchat

[sour delta]

goodluck with that

[dark tangle]

Thanks

[vocal shard]

Check disboard then

[dark tangle]

Good idea

[languid beacon]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H1zX5aYvpRQ

[vocal shard]

Jamie get your coffee~

I always have coffee

[modest comet]

wew tysm i didn't even realize gestures could lock like tht uwu

cause one time it did something like tht and it was a avatar causing the others to break cause of "open hand"

[languid beacon]

on index disabling gestures doesn’t stop your hands from working. I wish that was the case for other controllers

[modest comet]

ahhh yee i'm using oculus

[modest cove]

@everyone Having issues on VRChat. I can't accept invites on Steam Vr in the game. I can still go through portals and directly join a world, but I can't accept invites. Was anyone else having the same issue and does anyone know how to fix it?

@everyone if it helps, I'm using quest that's connected to a PC.

[vocal shard]

Please don't attempt to ping the entire server

[ruby needle]

Trying to ping over 155.000 people for that (twice) is very selfish...

[modest cove]

I'm just trying to get some help.

[languid beacon]

imagine if it worked though

[regal furnace]

thats not how you get help

[languid beacon]

You’d have an angry mob on you right now lol

What happened when you accept the invite?

[regal furnace]

also im pretty sure it falls under this rule
10. Do not mass-mention large numbers of users

[modest cove]

I would get the prompt to go myself or use a portal. I would click on it, but nothing would happen.

[languid beacon]

That doesn’t sound like a normal message. So you’re getting the notification from another player?

To join them?

[modest cove]

Yes, I would request an invite. They accept my request because it's an invite only or invite+, then I would accept it and it would say that I have been officially invited. It can either go by myself or drop a portal if it's invite plus. Then afterwards, I try to click on the button to go to the world, but it won't let me, I would just get stuck on the prompt.

I can directly join, I just can't be invited.

[cold talon]

nope dang chat was scrolled again

[languid beacon]

That’s all new to me I don’t actually recall ever getting a message saying I can drop a portal.

[regal furnace]

is it for everyone or just one friend?

[modest cove]

I'm not sure.

[languid beacon]

I think the message you are getting might be fake. Or I’m very unfamiliar with Invite+

[regal furnace]

sounds a bit like a modded invite

[languid beacon]

Yeah.

[modest cove]

No, sigh I can send a screenshot.

[regal furnace]

i got something like that too once

[languid beacon]

I believe you Ness, but it’s possible you are getting those custom messages even if you’re all good and using nornal VRChat. The person sending them might be using something they shouldn’t.

[regal furnace]

only modded clients can send custom messages in invites

[modest cove]

No, can I dm you and send you a screenshot of what I mean?

One of you?

[languid beacon]

You are free to share it here.

[modest cove]

Okay. One minute

[slate sapphire]

There’s someone with a nude avatar running around in a public lobby lmao

Where can I submit a report?

[regal furnace]

#moderation-reports

[slate sapphire]

Thanks

[digital olive]

I asked this last night but I’m gonna ask again cause I really wanna find one. Does anyone know or have any sailor moon avatars that I could use? I’ve been looking everywhere for weeks now and I just can’t find any

[ruby burrow]

I'm guessing you've tried searching the worlds section for sailor moon phrases?

[ebon pasture]

Hi

[digital olive]

Yeah I’ve even tried looking up the Japanese name and have had no luck

[rocky blaze]

still getting stuck at 100%

[ruby burrow]

Hmm. Clever idea with the Japanese name, but shame you got no results then.
If you were willing to create the avatar yourself, there seems to be plenty of Sailor Moon MMD models freely available on Deviant Art.

[rocky blaze]

amazing

[digital olive]

I downloaded one that I really liked but it just gave me a png of the cover image. I think if I create and rig one myself I would definitely have to pay for one probably.

I’m just still shocked that there’s none just out in the open for me to find cause it’s such a popular show

[ruby burrow]

You won't need to rig an MMD model. They all come pre-rigged. You'd just need to convert it with CATS to be suitable for VR-Chat.

I feel like I have seen a sailor moon avatar in the game before, but I couldn't possibly tell you where to find it. Sorry.

Probably hidden in some mixed non-specific avatar world or something.

[digital olive]

It’s fine Tysm for telling me ab CATS I’ll try to check that out if I can’t find her tonight

I’m trying to look into very vague worlds cause tbh those are usually where hidden gems are

[ruby burrow]

Just to make sure you understood me there, CATS is a plugin for Blender designed specifically to help convert MMD models into VR-Chat ready FBX format.

It does stuff like correctly renaming bones, removing un-needed MMD specific bones, translating shapekeys etc from japanese.

After that you'd set up the model in Unity to upload it.
There's people in the avatars channels here that will be able to recommend some tutorials and help you if you need anything answered.

[coral pasture]

anybody wanna play vr chat?

[shut zodiac]

Public lobbies

[covert blade]

I mean if it is crashing you, technically is

[languid beacon]

Intentionally crashing you is against the rules. Key word is intentionally, though. some people just have very laggy avatars. You can choose to auto-hide poor and very poor rated avatars, if you want.

[covert blade]

What if it was intentional 🤔
Crash quest users but not PC users

[snow tinsel]

Pretty hard to prove they're doing it to you intentionally

Unless they're like following you around or something

[languid beacon]

Would be difficult to prove. People regularly upload quest versions of their avatars that Quest can’t possibly handle.

Given that it was pink (unsupported shader) I’m guessing that’s the case

[spring spade]

anyone know any good quest avatar worlds

[quartz thunder]

hi

[merry surge]

Anyone know where I can get the rigify addon for Blender?

Hm, no matter. I just found it.

[robust shoal]

if anyone wants to play dm me

[jagged wadi]

Where you guys get all that avatars from

[covert blade]

Booth.pm

[brave compass]

hey have you guys been able to clone lately?

[honest forge]

no

[brave compass]

well crap me too

[honest forge]

my game keeps autohiding itself lol

[brave compass]

oh legit?

only problem im having the is the cloning not working

[honest forge]

yea, but my computer is like the definition of a potato computer, like its basically a 4 year old ipad with windows, so it might be my computer telling me to not play lol

wish there wasnt this many bugs, for an assembly game of this size, its crazy how they keep adding new features and not really fixing the new bugs that occur

[lean wigeon]

Anyone know how I can fix worlds not loading? I recently had to re-install windows and now I can't get into other worlds.

[vocal shard]

for some reason when i go to build in unity for the android apk it says i need to fix something which i did and wont let me build it

[honest forge]

uh, depends on what kind of not loading

[lean wigeon]

It flashes black and then takes me back to default home world

It fails downloading

[honest forge]

clear cache

[lean wigeon]

That broke it even worse

Now all it can load is the world that tells you to load into another world, restart,or join here

[west yoke]

There's two things I can think of to try here. Running VRChat as administrator and using a VPN.

[honest forge]

what worlds you joining?

[lean wigeon]

Literally any world is doing it

[vocal shard]

I cant build on unity with the android thing

[vocal shard]

ok is there a help chat

im trying to do something on unity rn

[sharp saddle]

im trying to do something on unity rn
@vocal shard Android thing?

[vocal shard]

yes

it wont let me build

[sharp saddle]

Optimizing for Quest?

[vocal shard]

yes

[sharp saddle]

#quest-development or #quest-general

[lean wigeon]

So any other ideas on the world download problem when trying to visit worlds?

[sharp saddle]

There's a whole category for Quest-related items.

[lean wigeon]

I wasn't having the problem before re-installing windows so I'm curious if there is anything I need to setup in order for it to work

[vocal shard]

i mean

i try to fix the problem

but i still cant do anything

[sharp saddle]

Wait, are you using Unity on an Android device itself?

[vocal shard]

no

im on pc

[sharp saddle]

Try the channels I posted.

[vocal shard]

none of them are active

[fleet cradle]

Mario insane

[vocal shard]

wdym

[fleet cradle]

The avatar in VR Chat

[vocal shard]

plus it wont let me sign in with my oculus account

[sharp saddle]

... That's why.

You have to have a VRChat account. You can't use Oculus or Steam accounts for the SDK.

[fleet cradle]

Thats a oculus account try to use a facebook

[vocal shard]

oh wait

i think i have one

not yet allowed

how long do i have to be on vr chat for

2 hours

[sharp saddle]

?upload

[shy spoke]

You must obtain at least "New User" Trust Rank in our Trust and Safety system in order to upload content. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.

As an aside, you must have a VRChat account to upload content. That means you can't use a Steam account, Oculus account, or Viveport account to upload content like worlds or avatars.

Source: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/frequently-asked-questions

[sharp saddle]

@vocal shard

[vocal shard]

yes

[sharp saddle]

Read above.

[vocal shard]

im in one world

[sharp saddle]

👀 What?

[vocal shard]

ive been in some worlds already

[sharp saddle]

That's not enough criteria to rank up. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.

Focus on actually playing the game than worrying about uploading right now.

[vocal shard]

fine

ill spend 4 hours on it

[sharp saddle]

Fair enough.

[vocal shard]

while p l a y i n g

plus

no one wants to friend me

[sharp saddle]

With that attitude, I wonder why?

[vocal shard]

bruh

i dont give them an attitude tbh

[lean wigeon]

Any ideas on the world download fails I am kind of bored sitting in default worlds

[sharp saddle]

@lean wigeon Try #user-support-old

[brave compass]

Man cloning is still broken for me

[vocal shard]

do i keep unity opened

it wants me to use the 2018 version

[sharp saddle]

You can close it if you want.

And yes, the latest-supported build is 2018.4.20f1.

[vocal shard]

What are we talking about?

i also had to close vr chat serveral times

do i have to start over

[sharp saddle]

Start over with what?

[vocal shard]

with playing for 4 hours

[hollow ingot]

No starting over! ... but no guarantee on getting the rank within 4 hours

[vocal shard]

damn

i have to go at 12

idk if i will have time

[sacred nacelle]

im being touched inappropriately in the void club plz help

[vocal shard]

also what does it mean to be approved by the systems

[old pier]

Why am I here I have no vrchat

[sharp saddle]

also what does it mean to be approved by the systems
@vocal shard You don't start over each time you close the game, it's collective.

The NES days of no saving are long-gone.

[scenic hedge]

Reminds me of my childhood, back when I didn't have a memory card so I had to start games from the beginning every time

[sharp saddle]

SMB3 days, man. SMB3 days.

And Batman.

[vocal shard]

im idle in the game at the moment

does that not count

[tropic fossil]

the ban I was given by mistake last week has come back and support still hasnt responded to me, should I go to moderation or is this not their department?

[ruby needle]

Moderation is the right department for appeals, yes.

Support Cathegory does not handle Moderation cases. (Probably will still get forwarded, but Moderation is the right cathegory.)

[vocal shard]

So you can no longer put special letters like stars in your vrchat display name now?

[sturdy whale]

Hey, is there a way to kick or warn another player in your own private world that you make? I saw in the "Social" option and clicking on my plate that I could kick and warn, though this was in the place where you spawn in when starting vrchat.

[red saddle]

anyone else having vrchat issues today? me and all my friends are lagging out and idk if it's just our internets

[sturdy whale]

meaning can you do those two things to other players in a place you make in unity that is private and invite only.

[north ridge]

@red saddle Nope me too since the new updates everything for me takes 1 hour to load

[shut zodiac]

[sleek sparrow]

damn putting ameno in the karaoke rooms and people dont even recognize it smh

[visual coyote]

shoudn't I use particle system on avatar?

[vocal shard]

you can

[visual coyote]

Thank you.
This avater is wasted...

[ruby burrow]

Particle systems are fine on avatars. Just be responsible with how many particles it produces, and use some common sense to try and keep the design optimised. Use sensible resolution images, only use components that you actually need, use low weight/particle shaders.

[visual coyote]

My particle's max count is 10 but rate over time is 4 or 5.
This is looping and using custom unlit emissivd shader.

I posted a particle picture on vrchat-pictures channel.
Green particle is mine.

[vocal shard]

someone dm me if you down to play some vrchat with me

[north ridge]

uh

[cunning sierra]

LOIS GRIFFIN back at it

[fleet pawn]

Has it ever been discussed if this will be implemented into vrc? https://developer.vive.com/resources/vive-sense/sdk/vive-hand-tracking-sdk/

[languid beacon]

if my custom animations are blocked, no one can see my props. workaround: i put it on a visememe and i just make a constant high pitched "EEEEEE" and then everyone can see it

[echo arch]

oh so you like vrchat name every avatar

[heady salmon]

oh so you like the internet, name every website url

[clear olive]

who wants to play vrchat

Has it ever been discussed if this will be implemented into vrc? https://developer.vive.com/resources/vive-sense/sdk/vive-hand-tracking-sdk/
@fleet pawn Idk search it up. it would be cool though ngl

But it would then only be for vive as its vive handtracking but they can also allow it for the oculus quest 1 and 2

[fleet pawn]

it works on all vive models from gen 1 on, and the index, even though index already has the knuckles but it would still mean you could use your bare hands if you wanted.
as for oculus, i don't own any, but i'm sure i read something about that feature already being built into their software, so yeah it'd still need VRC to add support for it, which they totally could do

[elder wyvern]

This will probably not be read, but please VRC devs, do something about the Udon documentation. I have never seen a documentation and search function this poor. Searching "instantiate" gives me patch notes but not the article on using VRC Instantiate, which can also not be found in google but is mentioned in many examples. You are making it extremely hard for people to develop if it is this difficult for people to understand how to use the basic essential building blocks

[regal furnace]

@fleet pawn NeosVR has it implemented already, you can try it over there. I tried it and it was extremely bad. Tried it on Index and it was pretty bad

[fleet pawn]

i've been messing around with the prebuilt sample from the sdk for a while now. It's not been particularly horrible, slow response sure, but it's getting my hand positions nailed with enough accuracy that i'd actually enjoy giving people a thumbs up or flipping them off, and hell i'll take something over nothing, especially since i still have a gen 1 vive and wands

[regal furnace]

adding fingertracking support in general would be cool, including the Leap Motion and Quest Fingertracking

but im sure its a lot of work to actually implement it properly

[echo arch]

oh so you like discord name every user

[regal furnace]

can we stop with these memes already? it is not funny, it never was funny and never will be funny

[clear olive]

its true it isnt funny

[sharp saddle]

This will probably not be read, but please VRC devs, do something about the Udon documentation. I have never seen a documentation and search function this poor. Searching "instantiate" gives me patch notes but not the article on using VRC Instantiate, which can also not be found in google but is mentioned in many examples. You are making it extremely hard for people to develop if it is this difficult for people to understand how to use the basic essential building blocks
@elder wyvern https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Object.Instantiate.html ?

Seems to be a Unity function rather than an SDK function.

[vocal shard]

Crap I forgot to close vr chat last night

[sharp saddle]

Nothing wrong with that.

Your CPU might be screaming though.

[elder wyvern]

@sharp saddle the Unity version was barred for security or other reasons, and instead VRCInstantiate is to be used, see #udon-general for a short discussion we had about it earlier. This is an essential feature of Udon yet it is completely undocumented.

[sharp saddle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I just did a quick Google search for the hell of it, wasn't sure "instantiate" was a word.

[elder wyvern]

I've noticed this to be the case on more than one occasion with other essential things, documentation is not of the quality you would expect to come with something as intricate and with unique conditions and stuff that applies, as Udon

And as i mentioned, the search function is not working so well either, nor is the documentation being properly indexed by Google

this is really a big problem if you want to make development accessible to people who aren't masochists

[vocal shard]

Lol it says I've been playing for 9 and a half hours when I'm literally afk

[broken plover]

it just counts how long the game has been running

[vocal shard]

And that doesnt count for unity right

[west yoke]

If you're talking about getting to New User so you can upload an avatar. Then no being AFK does not count towards that

[vocal shard]

Well

I still need another few hours

Because I basically played for an hour and a half

[sharp saddle]

?upload

[shy spoke]

You must obtain at least "New User" Trust Rank in our Trust and Safety system in order to upload content. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.

As an aside, you must have a VRChat account to upload content. That means you can't use a Steam account, Oculus account, or Viveport account to upload content like worlds or avatars.

Source: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/frequently-asked-questions

[sharp saddle]

@vocal shard

[vocal shard]

I've been hopping on worlds

I've made some friends

I did explore

[sharp saddle]

Alright.

Keep doing that till you get a notification saying you have access to the SDK.

[rugged sapphire]

Anyone else get stuck between loading screens?

[vocal shard]

How come I cant see PC skins

On the quest

"One of life's greatest mysteries"

[west yoke]

Because Quest simply can't load those avatars nor can it handle them even if it could load them.

[vocal shard]

@rugged sapphire Nah worlds were working fine for me.

[rugged sapphire]

It won't show anything above either 5K or 10K poly

[vocal shard]

Did have a weird moment where my Avatar went completely transparent when I hopped/

[rugged sapphire]

I get stuck loading another world and usually gotta Alt F4

[vocal shard]

I have found when that does happen, you can simply wait for a bit and it normally starts working again. Only time that didnt work for me was when my ISP decided to do 4 hours of maintenance outta nowhere.

[rugged sapphire]

I'll try that but I'm impatient lmao

[vocal shard]

Yeah the panic gets real after about 20 seconds while in VR

[brave vector]

So I merged my steam account with my VRC one and I dont seem to have they same trust factor on steam I used to be a user and now it tells me I am a visitor is that supposed to happen?

[wintry furnace]

Apologies if this is off topic but where's the best place to get a Windows 10 activation key. Microsofts own website has them but they go for €139 or more and there is other sites like G2A selling them for €20. Is G2A selling the official version of Windows 10?

So G2A are selling pirated windows?

Or do you mean use pirated windows

[broken plover]

when theyre cheap, theyre (probably) oem licenses. So theyre for companies that build and sell pc's with preinstalled windows

[west yoke]

Basically a license purchased in bulk. Most of the time they're sold without permission from the company who bought them to make a quick buck, this has a risk though. For example it could result in the license just randomly becoming invalid when the company goes to use it but can't.

[wintry furnace]

Hmmm ok. I just don't know where to get windows 10. Some people told me to just download it from Microsoft's website but there's a watermark. And there's the official one from Microsoft but I don't have 139 euros to spare on Windows 10

[west yoke]

You can use Windows 10 for free but yes there's a watermark and some QOL features aren't available but that's about it. Everything else works as expected

[wintry furnace]

Does the watermark go away if you go into fullscreen on a video or play a game in full screen?

[west yoke]

It's transparent and in the bottom right of your screen, mostly out of the way

[umbral reef]

Honest, buying those cheap windows 10 keys is worth the risk depending what company you get it from
Getting it from G2A is never worth it because they accept any reseller even those who are known scammers.

[inland knot]

G2A is trash

[wintry furnace]

@umbral reef do you know of any trustworthy sites to get win10 keys other than Microsoft?

[inland knot]

every time i bought something from there, it was a big dissapointment

and their customer service is fucking nonexistant

[west yoke]

@vocal shard Also nobody has a conclusive answer to that as it's subjective.

[umbral reef]

There is none that are truly trustworthy and me suggesting one wont help as most keys are region locked also.
Just google for a while, google the companies and there complaints so like what you always should do.

[wintry furnace]

Ok I'll do that

[inland knot]

people use furry avatars because they like those characters, same reason why some people use anime avatars

they think it looks nice

which is fine as long as it doesnt bother anyone

[umbral reef]

Also the fact there are plenty of versions out there and dont make them look odd

[inland knot]

your english is hardly understandable

good

[raw pine]

[sage pewter]

Just played an Among Us where we repeatedly unanimously voted for the same guy and it ended in a tie every time

[inland knot]

bruh.

And hes gone

[raw pine]

i didnt see it

[ruby needle]

They left them self tho.

[inland knot]

Good.

[cold talon]

damn fpaul banning people left and right

[vocal shard]

good

apparently afk does count

i can now upload custom avatars

[inland knot]

who would have thought

[vocal shard]

it wont let me now

it says im allowed but it says it must be built and published to our game servers

[wicked ferry]

did anyone figure out how to make the quest 2 with a link cable play audio o-o''

[vocal shard]

it lets me build for windows

but not android

i dont get it

android support: NO

[broken plover]

you need to download and install some extra to build for android

[vocal shard]

where can i get that

[broken plover]

in unity on the top left press file then build settings and then select android. It should tell you that you need to download the android stuff first with a button to where you can download the files from

[vocal shard]

yeah

unity setup android right

[broken plover]

yes

[vocal shard]

failed to delete old unity android support files

do i abort retry or ignore

[broken plover]

I never had that so I don't know. Maybe someone in #user-support-old knows

[vocal shard]

i have nothing of unity opened

i clicked ignore and its extracting things

[stark wren]

So I'm trying to add custom avatars, but it keeps saying I have to play a little longer. I have 10.5 hours on the game. Any help?

[ruby needle]

Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a not time based trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.

You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord, a rough estimate would be ** 20-40 hours**, but big exceptions are possible.

Make sure you are not using a steam or oculus account and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.

http://help.vrchat.com/kb/article/27-why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet

[stark wren]

Okay, thank you.

[vocal shard]

i opened the support thing again and it still gives me the error

i literally have nothing opened

[unborn wyvern]

The great pug is being targeted again

yippie

[vocal shard]

i cant even delete the android player

😔

[chilly tiger]

I came to this server to ask a question about a model. I dont know where to post it to ask about the origins of the model itself. Its owner recently deleted their vrc account and i miss the avatar dearly.

[honest forge]

hellœ, anything under that user will be deleted with that user

[vocal shard]

Do you guys think Among Us in VRchat is fun?

[chilly tiger]

So thats the thing. Ive seen a few different versions of it. So i think its a asset somewhere

And ive seen different people who had a avatar using the same model

Would it be possible for me to post a picture?

[honest forge]

@chilly tiger if thos people published thos variants under their user, then then technically you can still siphon the avatar

[vocal shard]

You can post a link here, or a picture in #general-media

by this point i give up

[honest forge]

@chilly tiger that looks like an avatar you could clone from someone if you ask them

[vocal shard]

waiiiiiit

i have the 2019 and 2020 edition

[chilly tiger]

But i dont know anyone who has that model now. Im kindof crossing my fingers hoping someone in vrc has the avatar saved to their account or something

And do what now Mario?

[honest forge]

@vocal shard htf did you have both

@chilly tiger android support problems with unity is what he was talking about

[chilly tiger]

oh ok

[honest forge]

also I don’t know anyone with that avi, sorry

[vocal shard]

Do you guys think Among Us in VRchat is fun?

idk

but i keep trying

and the same error

lets fricking go

it still wont let me build with android when it literally installed the setup

what else am i supposed to do

[honest forge]

ummmm

did you download the android support from vrchat? if they have one? cus my android support when i had my original unity program, it worked fine but there might be a certain android support version you need

[vocal shard]

isnt it unitysetup-android-support-for-editor

UnitySetup-Android-Support-for-Editor-2018.4.20f1

[honest forge]

yea

but what you posted was that your avatar has shaders that will not work

and they must work in order to publish

[vocal shard]

how do i change the shaders

[honest forge]

ill dm

[vocal shard]

aight

[deep geyser]

@vocal shard

[keen sandal]

@languid beacon helloooo?

[clear olive]

Why cant i go in vrchat without crashing

it just goes black

[shy tulip]

system reqirments

[clear olive]

dude i could run it good before

[shy tulip]

huh did u try un installing and reinstalling

[clear olive]

ye

[shy tulip]

huh

[clear olive]

it just goed black and ive let it run over half an hour yesterday and it didnt work

[shy tulip]

interesting

i think this a client side issue

not servers side

[clear olive]

wait im gonna try peeking the files

i know it now. i have a crappy antivirus

[white warren]

I feel like I should be allowed to finally become trusted now

[clear olive]

it deletes some files i am uninstalled it

[white warren]

Now I have been waiting for 900 hours

[clear olive]

i checked the quarantined files.......

[shy tulip]

yea its client side i9 can launch it perfectly

[clear olive]

yeah stupid antiviruses say everythings a virus i uninstalled it

[shy tulip]

ikr

[clear olive]

anyway im re installing again

KURWA. im not actually polish

[shy tulip]

ait

[white warren]

Yo what do you need to do to become a part of the vrchat team

[clear olive]

i know how to type 5 grams of something because of the song

Polish cow is a song

Yes it works

[vocal shard]

Why does vrchat get worse?

[white warren]

Since when

[vocal shard]

Updates mate

Yep still are

[ruby needle]

You're saying it as if it where a simple thing.

(It isn't)

[tall laurel]

I'm trying to log into my account from another device through Unity to upload something, but whenever I click "Sign In" it just flickers to a loading window and then doesn't log me in. Anyone know why this is happening?

[ruby needle]

Oh really? Many even AAA games have hack tools

Even on console.

And this is a game where users make custom content, it's way harder to build predictive detection algorithms

[honest forge]

ive seen so many hackers at this point that i dont really care if a game has them, i mainly care about the quality

[odd blaze]

Only way i know to secure the assets of anything if its just a streaming game/video to your pc

[honest forge]

thats not exactly how ip grabbers work sir

and if you have direct network, then theres no way to technically boot anyone unless an event was ticked out

[vocal shard]

I'm playing gmod low settings low resolution on a GTX 1080 ti

[honest forge]

what do you mean? @vocal shard

[arctic vector]

Well people have to play with a VPN then unless they want their internet booted off the whole day by folks with ip grabbers
@vocal shard Or they could just use a firewall, and a properly setup and hardened system. Maybe a hardware firewall if you'd like, too.

https://tenor.com/view/netero-heart-hunter-gif-5702456

[ruby needle]

You dont need a VPN for playing at all.

The main leaky thing was steam's voice which since teh 2018 update uses relays

You dont.

You can