Svel, I have a Radeon VII and am perfectly happy with it
#vrchat-general-2
scenic hedge
vocal shard
😂
grim breach
i value my money, 3080 offers no better value than 3070. and sure i can afford to buy 3090 just i dont want to
tacit plank
Lol that profile picture
grim breach
anyone still game on laptop?
scenic hedge
I used to whenever I had to go to class, but ever since classes went online I haven't had a reason to
My laptop runs a Ryzen 5 2500U and Vega 8 Graphics, so it can run most games, just not well
grim breach
may consider hooking up an external gpu to it
scenic hedge
No need, I already have a gaming pc that I use at home. It's running that Radeon VII and a Threadripper 1920x
scenic hedge
I know what it is, I knew even before I got it
timid talon
just curious if theres been anyone else with the friends list issue, i basically have to restart my game everytime i want it to update
grim breach
its also specialized in mining crypto currency
have u tried it?
just curious if theres been anyone else with the friends list issue, i basically have to restart my game everytime i want it to update
@timid talon probably its time to upgrade to rtx3080
mighty nest
Only issue is availability. GL trying to find a 3080 at msrp without actively hunting for a drop
shut basin
Hɪ ᴡᴀsssᴜᴘ
pine oracle
hi
violet dew
anyone know an avatar world with a leopard gecko avatar
molten gale
@grim breach nice try but a few days you said you got it early so super credible
regal furnace
im sure amds 6800xt is a good alternative for a 3080
molten gale
Doubt
For vr anyways
As AMD has a lotta issues with it
A lot of crashing, shader issues and other stuff
stable folio
Getting my 3080 sooooon lessgo
mighty nest
My placeholder 3070 shipped uwu
stable folio
I got an EVGA since I was smart enough to do the notify me the day of release
So it should be here next week or so
mighty nest
Day of release as in over a month ago?
vocal shard
Why is there ear icon on people's profile?
molten gale
I think its to show if they can hear you
twilit sonnet
It's part of one of the most recent updates
"A new ear icon on user thumbnails in the "In Room" social display to show who can currently hear you in the room" @vocal shard
vapid forge
I have such a bad habit of getting blackout drunk and passing out in the black cat 😂
twilit sonnet
Why black cat though, drinking night is where it's at
valid quiver
3070 seems like more of a sweet spot for high end, unless you're maxing out settings at 4k with good frames. Then sure, go for the 3080
But no motion blur of course
tame wasp
i hope 3.0 worlds can get fixed too ;-;
vocal shard
so does the new beta build fix the issues with expressions?
id like all of my avatars to not be broken
pseudo basalt
it went out like 5 minutes ago
obtuse vine
@vocal shard switch to open beta and find out
ruby needle
#open-beta-announcements has the info's / patchnotes and #open-beta-discussion is the right channel to chat in for if you wanna test and exchange info 
vocal shard
i can't go in game rn hence why i was asking here
pseudo basalt
wait a bit, no idea yet
obtuse vine
All these issues made it to the live release cause no one caught them in the last open beta
crystal burrow
Todays patch fix animations yet?
obtuse vine
Well, they were caught, but the severity of them wasn't tested
ruby needle
@crystal burrow please read my last message.
pseudo basalt
some were caught but still went in supposedly
just like every other open beta that breaks stuff
ruby tiger
obtuse vine
Yes that was believed to be due to them having write defaults enabled
crystal burrow
How's that apply? I'm not talking about a beta, lol
ruby needle
which other patch "today" then 🤔
crystal burrow
Dunno. Got an update on steam for VRchat.
Was simply wondering if that update fixed animations or not.
jovial kestrel
There's a new open beta which will be live in a few hours, but no patch to live today Yet.
ruby needle
(Notes for yesturday's are in #announcements)
misty hatch
pure fulcrum
Should I buy a new vrheadset or no😢
grizzled needle
is this a same-server patch?
full quail
So I was looking at the rules and can I ask what it means by hacking/cheating?
grizzled needle
any modification or circumvention of the built in controls in VRC. Client mods to allow for speedhack, teleport, etc.
full quail
Oh
grizzled needle
all of those fall under hacking/cheating
full quail
Why would people get it in the first place?
grizzled needle
because they think they're cool when they hack
full quail
It’s a game to be social and make friends hacking is not cool
grizzled needle
same reason any other skiddie does it
you've got the right idea, some people just hate fun
vocal shard
Oh your a fan of vrchat? Name every world
full quail
The only time I’ve ever hacked a game was in gmod so I spawn unlimited sanics
It was a mistake
vocal shard
Its fun to have power that’s about it
i just got done with class
i was korone in vrchat the whole time
pearl sapphire
Nice lol
river ibex
Hi, is the Unity version of dynamic bone that I use the same that VRChat uses?
Or does VRChat use an exclusive version?
vestal pier
All versions should be fine
pseudo basalt
vrchat applies it's own dynamic bones so it doesn't matter which ones you use as long as the settings are there
you can even use a dummy script with the same names for all the settings and it will still work ingame
cold talon
you dont even have to use dynamic bones actually
can just use a script that pretends to be DynBone and it will get replaced with the real deal
pseudo basalt
that's... exactly what I just said
modern hill
Lol
real sluice
why cant you people patch something to a point where you dont break it ?
like honestly. you pretened as you are fixing things but you are not.
again something is broken this time its my animatoins
yesterday people where able to see my stuff now they cant. like wtf
dont you guys have something better to do than breaking the things you are building ?
pseudo basalt
here we go again
pseudo basalt
maybe in a few days everything will work
real sluice
honestly i love vrchat iam very thankful for the vrc devs
honestly. i love the game....but why....i know unity can get messy.....but omg...pls.....
tranquil smelt
where do i go to find an enderman avatar that can go invisible?
real sluice
no clue. but you can just download invisible shaders and add them to your avatar. just make sure to not hide your nameplate
meager rose
Probably searching Minecraft in Worlds
tranquil smelt
@meager rose i did
odd blaze
turn off your mesh instead, dont need a shader for it
tranquil smelt
?
real sluice
or that
tranquil smelt
i dont understand anything that you guys are saying
real sluice
so you have no clue of unity or blender ?
tranquil smelt
no sir
odd blaze
He just wanna find an avatar in the worlds
real sluice
its madam....but alright...then you have to look for it real hard
tranquil smelt
yea
odd blaze
No clue i dont use public avatars much so no idea where to find any
tranquil smelt
so when i log out and log in my recent worlds arnt there how do i fix that?
real sluice
why does vrc sdk 3 animation not work anymore ? can someone tell me ? no ? welcome to the vrc devs
manic pier
Quick question, is VRChat worth playing without a VR-Headset?
modern hill
yesh
manic pier
That's all I needed
meager rose
Yeah I do it all the time Boe
I usually do desktop because VR breaks my character animations
manic pier
I thank this community for responding faster then most
tame wasp
rip 3.0 worlds
vocal shard
I was a desktop mute for months and had a great time
odd blaze
Was on desktop / mute for months , not even vr too
real sluice
useless.....even after the update it doesnt work.....pretty pissed ngl
vestal pier
ive been purely desktop for a year beause my wmr broke
What about the update doesnt work @real sluice ?
vocal shard
What doesn't work? Can you give more detail as to your problem and if you can recreate it we should report it
real sluice
the animations of vrc sdk 3 still dont work.....neither my new avatar i made. neither the old one that everybody could see before perfectly fine
vestal pier
Reload the avatar to make sure its not a caching issue
real sluice
honestly....every single time i see a vrc update i think : what did they break this time ?
tame wasp
^
vestal pier
Make sure everyone is updated too.
real sluice
so lets make the vrc 3 avatar i made over a cause of the week to ducking vrc 2 shall we ?
lucid sierra
I've returned from being banned for a day after tearing VRChat a new one the day they released a dysfunctional update.
real sluice
just gonna take me 2 or 3 hours
vocal shard
All the spookality avatars work, all my avatars work, all the public models I checked worked.
Could there be something strange with your setup happening?
lucid sierra
And I shall gloat because I knew I would get banned.
vestal pier
Make sure they are also up to date.
real sluice
on the new and old avatar....and on the old one everybody was able to see it.....
my bf told me to reupload the avatar.....
vocal shard
Hm, I am aware of an issue with certain friends of mine where none of my animations will show for them until I rejoin the world.
I don't know if that's been documented yet because we haven't been able to really consistently reproduce it.
vestal pier
Are you on the most up to date SDK?
real sluice
newest sdk ? then i will try that aswell after i reuploaded the avatar i guess
real sluice
i alraedy did the avatar. it was working fine....BOOM new update...it doesnt work anymore
dont blame me on that
odd blaze
Newest sdk only really changed the exsample layers to wd off, not much else different, oh well they have more 3.0 parameters i guess
lucid sierra
I'm waiting on them to address other issues like shoulders and arms rolling if you're on Desktop.
And the IK.
vestal pier
Im not blaming you, im just pointing out that there are steps you should be taking to rule out that it is not infact your setup breaking stuff.
real sluice
i have the newest sdk i just cheked
lucid sierra
I have an issue where at random points in time, everything loading will break if it's not in my cache. Avatars, worlds, they will break loading.
If it's an avatar, it will turn into an error model while it loads, and if it's a world, I'll be sent back to my home world.
And if the default home world isn't in my cache, I'm forced to be in the error world.
real sluice
-does a rage emote that isnt allowed in this server-
vestal pier
So newest SDK, all of your friends have updated. make a canny!
vestal pier
Cool!
odd blaze
vrchat showed me as my own friend, so i invited myself (likely cause i was on 2 instances on same pc)
pastel portal
nobody can see my animations but i can see them
@real sluice Did they update vrchat? The new update is supposed to fix it
real sluice
honestly.....duck vrc sdk 3 for now.....
vocal shard
Kurama, is your storage device full? I know that if your storage device is full all avatars after that point will appear as error models. Or does your computer think it's full? Sometimes it takes a while for the free storage number to update even if you delete a lot of files
lucid sierra
My storage is not full.
This isn't happening frequently, it's happening occasionally.
vocal shard
Huh, that's a strange problem then
umbral reef
TBH kinda sounds like your ISP is dropping packets and cant save them if it all happen in the same heap
west roost
Is vrchat more cpu or gpu bound?
umbral reef
Highly depends on how well the people around you optimized there avatar.
vocal shard
From what I've been told, think of it like an MMO, it's generally CPU bound but avatars can definitely bog down your GPU. Having both is important.
molten gale
@real sluice have those people updated aswell
west roost
Highly depends on how well the people around you optimized there avatar.
@umbral reef
If the avatars are well optimized its more cpu bound meanwhile if they're unoptimized its gpu bound?
umbral reef
Well the world also has an big impact and if your in VR or not.
Its really just hard to say but most games now adays are more CPU 'bound' because they can only split up heavy processes over so many cores.
wicked flare
Yo guys hello, i'm new, pc player, do you have any idea why people's avatars are not loading? Every world i go there is just 1 or 2 with avatar, the rest floating defaults...
real sluice
i dont need support.....cause its just vrc again......thanks for the update....it broke just magnificent again as it does basicly every single time
sharp saddle
Yo guys hello, i'm new, pc player, do you have any idea why people's avatars are not loading? Every world i go there is just 1 or 2 with avatar, the rest floating defaults...
@wicked flare Usually this happens when your cache is too high or having network issues.
molten gale
Or perf blocker or quest
sharp saddle
"Floating defaults" definitely has more than one meaning.
I assume he means the loading diamonds.
wicked flare
No, the guys with the face
sharp saddle
Bring back the blue guys!
molten gale
Are ypu on quest
wicked flare
Either way i have good internet con and decent pc, as for cache its just 1gb
molten gale
yeah
sharp saddle
That'll do it.
molten gale
that explains it
wicked flare
Thank you so much
wide crow
So here's what I gathered about five minutes into playing. Animations are local and will always work for you, but often they won't be seen by other players, even if they reload your avatar. For some reason switching to an entirely different avatar and switching back will fix it, until you reset the avatar or switch out. It's really a coin flip. I assume this plays into or is part of the issue you guys on the dev team are already tracking?
vocal shard
Are invites ever going to work-
covert chasm
Invites should be working far more reliably now, but if you're having issues please contact our support team, they can help you get your logs and help us track down problems
@wide crow We're aware of those issues but repros are always welcome, please make sure you report the issue via our feedback boards: https://feedback.vrchat.com
wide crow
Done and done. Please be quick about it, much appreciated.
candid acorn
did the chair sitting world crash thing get fixed or is that still an issue? Because that one was kind of funny
covert chasm
@candid acorn do you have a Feedback item posted about that?
candid acorn
im not even sure what it was, Im just aware there was some kind of bug related to sitting in chairs, possibly sitting in avatar chairs, i dunno
covert chasm
well if you get repro details, info on it, or even what it actually is, please post and let me know
unfortunately "chairs crash" isn't an actionable report
candid acorn
i'll see, lol
molten gale
Also had a crash related to stations
Log only reported someone interacting with an inaccessible station
so it may have to do with people using stations you dont see?
or multiple people using same station
candid acorn
last night we were watching a movie and when it was done we talked about it and someone busted out an avatar with a chair, which got cloned. iirc it was something to do with 3.0 avatars sitting in stations. I sat in a chair, someone else sat in a chair, and instance went byebye
but i was 2.0
dull compass
If I recall it was if you had a custom sitting layer or action layer on an unupdated sdk 3.0 is what some people were saying.
Very much a have to have multiple people testing the different variations to see if its still bugged.
candid acorn
literally found a canny post for it.
https://vrchat.canny.io/bug-reports/p/instance-crashing
you yourself posted in this one, tuptup
pseudo basalt
muted wharf
having more logs to give to unity engineers certainly helps :)
lucid plover
Hello. Can someone help me? My mouse won’t let me rotate my camera in VR chat, unless i have the menu pulled up for some reason
ruby needle
I think your mouse needs some more disciplin then.
modern sand
@surreal carbon FYI your spookality avatar is set to private atm
sharp saddle
Wait. Is that why I crashed suddenly? o_O
vocal shard
imagine meeting one of the vrchat team staff and then accidentally scream then get blocked by them💀
candid acorn
seems like, trying to reproduce it, its a crapshoot. not guaranteed to crash consistently.
golden scaffold
We're checking it out
vocal shard
dull compass
Yes very hard to reproduce, tried with old sdk 3.0 with custom sitting and action layers with write defaults, old without custom, and new sdk without custom.
The documentation says empty controllers buttons get replaced at run time does that mean like when you load into it or when it gets uploaded?
molten gale
They fixed av3 specifically for desktop lmaoooo
rugged thorn
vocal shard
So 3.0 is still broken for me, no one can see any of my animations and on one of my avatars all the gestures get stuck all of a sudden
molten gale
@vocal shard yeah it only works on desktop
compact basin
Hey guys I'm watching alien right now in VR chat if anyone wants to join me just look at my nick, I'm pretty sure it's the same as my discord Nick little_phish
vocal shard
Ehhhmmm I cant update VRChat it says a File is missing and I havent touched any files
modern sand
@vocal shard In FBT or normal VR ?
molten gale
we identified the issue
vocal shard
I was in FBT
bold jay
would anyone recommend any good shooter games on vr chat?
molten gale
in desktop everything works local and remote
in vr everything works local but remote root motion breaks
in fbt everything works local but remote nothing works
deft temple
Wait so when I make my avatar, when people say animations do they mean like, walking animations and stuff?
surreal carbon
@surreal carbon FYI your spookality avatar is set to private atm
@modern sand my apologies, Its set to public now
modern sand
no worries, thanks !
grave totem
u guys know where i can post bug report ?
since hands is still broken on 3.0 for vive users
pseudo basalt
The vrchat canny but before posting try searching if someone reported the same thing
grave totem
surething
testing and se if it is the old sdk that is breaking
kinda need my hands for sign language
vocal shard
Hey
pseudo basalt
You can move the viewpoint with pumkin's avatar tools
pure fulcrum
Should I buy a vr headset or nah
tame meteor
Hello
shut zodiac
@pure fulcrum if you are interested in VR but aren't convinced, maybe checkout YouTube videos on "boneworks" "half life alyx" "VRChat" if you find it interesting maybe start with the brand new quest 2
VRChat has done alot for the quest community and this is a fantastic time to join the VR community!
night violet
hi
languid beacon
3.0 is working aside from non-humanoid transforms won't play on gesture layer
other than that, it seems to be working 100%
(this is after reworking everything to not use Write Defaults)
also visemes are locally syched to your voice which feels very nice, hope it stays
copper niche
still unplayable, constantly crashing every 5 to 10 minutes
languid beacon
Weren't you that cvr shill? 🤔 Wouldn't you have a vested interest in claiming you're crashing all the time lmao
copper niche
imagine being salty that vrc crashes often
copper niche
idk because you have a huge ego
pseudo basalt
I don't think it would matter if they said they crash often
Shill or not the game's far from perfect lol
copper niche
fanboys gonna white knight
languid beacon
Anyways, back to VRC, have fun fun complaining on VRC discord on friday night ¯_(ツ)_/¯
copper niche
you have issues mate
tribal star
vestal pier
restart steam
tacit plank
"Minor adjustments have been made to prevent cases where VRChat would crash unexpectedly" which crashes?
I've been crashing every now and then since about a month back, and I'm curious if that case is effected of it it's a fix of a more recent issue
vocal shard
where can i find a vortigaunt avatar?
vestal pier
search half-life
vocal shard
reading these patchnotes is like reading "herobrine removed" you guys arent specific on your updates, why
copper niche
it'll probably keep crashing tbh
vocal shard
its like im reading smash ultimate patch notes and now i have to go a goose chase to figure out what did you do
vestal pier
Would you prefer if they list every line of code they changed?
lament siren
what is the update referring to when it says “stations”?
vocal shard
i would prefer more specifics @vestal pier
pseudo basalt
stations means chairs
vestal pier
What would you like to see?
digital lagoon
I don't know if this is something that has been bought up yet/before, but since the new updates some avatars specifically I've found with most hobkins, facial gestures/expressions have been broken. I know this is down to the update due to wearing one it being fine, doing the update and it being broken and has been every update so far. I'm unsure of how this can be fixed though. It seems to be a local thing?
copper niche
Would you prefer if they list every line of code they changed?
@vestal pier "fixed issue where X caused Y and made Z happen"
vocal shard
just saying "minor adjustments" isnt enough, it doesnt explain anything and you downplay how much an improvement it could have been
sharp saddle
what is the update referring to when it says “stations”?
@lament siren Stations = chairs.
lament siren
oh ok!! thank u
vocal shard
search half-life
@vestal pier did not work
vestal pier
I think its unspecific because the changes are so broad.
vocal shard
what did you adjust, what was causing the crash. i never understand whats going on
covert chasm
Here, I'll help: We temporarily bypassed an issue where sitting in stations as a 4pt or 6pt user would cause crashes. We bypassed it by disabling sitting for these users temporarily.
In addition, we made some other adjustments that may help with some other crashes, but we're not 100%, and we don't want people to abuse those if they discover them, so we're not going to list it (and because the changes are rather broad).
That's the same thing we said in the announcement, but with bigger and more words. 🙂
vestal pier
more verbose is not more helpful, basically.
thorny aspen
okay well i crashed every 2 worlds so i hope its fixed here's hoping 👌
covert chasm
That is the point I'm trying to get across, yes haha
pseudo basalt
Kinda wondering why didn't you just avoid the whole situation by not pushing the build
vestal pier
ya, just dont update.
pseudo basalt
Is it really worth trying to quickly fix everything now
vocal shard
i mean, when you put 2 bullet points i thought you did more to stop crashes
lament siren
I like the method of fixing crashing by just taking out a feature lol
pseudo basalt
Really reminds me of how valve used to handle it's updates
vocal shard
i mean when its a fixed bug, i dont think it hurts to say what the problem was and how it was fixed
pseudo basalt
Except they're a much bigger team
vestal pier
If you expose how and what was broken, its useless info for 99% of people, the 1% are those who are seeking to use it maliciously.
vocal shard
then again shit happens and the fix probably didnt work. but thank you for explaining what minor adjustments meant.
round mortar
Just roll it back already
vestal pier
Why? most issues were already fixed, lily
vocal shard
@vestal pier wdym, what about the people who keep getting hit with this crash
your not making sense. especially when this bug is wellknown
pseudo basalt
If they were gonna roll back, they would have done it a while ago
vestal pier
Internal changes are not helpful for those who crash.
copper niche
If you expose how and what was broken, its useless info for 99% of people, the 1% are those who are seeking to use it maliciously.
@vestal pier "hey we fixed something but dont tell anyone it might crash" is what i hear
vestal pier
Then you cant read.
analog forge
fuckin hell mate
pseudo basalt
copper niche
hes practicing his mental gymnastic for class
analog forge
bit harsh
vocal shard
what your saying isnt adding up, you are literally implying you would rather be blissfully ignorant to shit around you
acoustic yew
lol 3 hours from halloween and things are still busted great job guys
guess you just couldn't wait to break the game until after a popular holiday, huh
vestal pier
Im not following, youre reaching pretty far.
Im just saying that the info youre asking for is most likely not helpful to most people therefore its not shared. im just reiterating what tupper said.
vocal shard
you said 99% of people wouldnt care if the patch notes said what was broken and how it was fixed
vestal pier
Ok, and?
analog forge
he's generalising
round mortar
These updates caused more issues than they fixed and 3.0 avatars are still extremely broken right before Halloween
vocal shard
most people do want to know that, especially within a community where 90% of the community makes the content
vestal pier
Your figures are mad incorrect.
vast tulip
not really. most people dont even look at patch notes at all. so that's already pretty out there
most people aren't even in this server
thorny aspen
^
vestal pier
Of all the people who saw that ping, one person asked (you)
thats not most, not even close.
copper niche
Your figures are mad incorrect.
@vestal pier because yours are accurate?
vestal pier
Yes.
copper niche
of course.
vocal shard
i dont get how not being specific in the patch notes is alright for a community driven game
vestal pier
Tupper explained, as did i. if you dont understand at this point, then dunno what to say my man
copper niche
his point is bad
sharp saddle
Why are we arguing about a patch that targets full-body users? o_O
vestal pier
Oh!
thorny aspen
🤷♀️
vestal pier
also 90% are creators is crazy inaccurate, though i would love to see actual stats on that
copper niche
you first
vestal pier
Id say its more likely to be the opposite, 10%
copper niche
lol wack
west yoke
Either way 90% is way too high
vestal pier
Absolutely.
severe hinge
for the love of god stop the updates, its getting worse
marble totem
OK should I even bother getting on VRC or did they actually fix anything with this update?
vestal pier
We have to account that there are more quest users than PC users, quest users arent really in a position to make content.
copper niche
yeah its still crashing
marble totem
Amazing
vast tulip
I've been in vrc for hours and I'm fine
vocal shard
it still doesnt matter, this game is community driven. but why am i typing to people who probably doesnt know what hes talking about
marble totem
Back to rimworld then
copper niche
look i can submit logs if you want
onyx laurel
is there actually more Quest users than PC?
vast tulip
rim world is an amazing choice if not vrc though
copper niche
i crashed 20 times in an hour
marble totem
I still don't know how these geniuses still have investors
true timber
there's no way there is more quest users than PC users
given there is more desktopper users than VR users
vestal pier
Beef, why resort to ad hominem when im just trying to state something.
You dont know me, why are you convinced i dont know what im talking about.
vocal shard
nice big word blue, do you want me to spell jacuzzi next?
copper niche
likewise
golden scaffold
If you're actually experiencing crashing, yes. Please send logs. There's a million different things that can cause crash issues and many of them can be specific to your configuration / set-up. For any specific issues, use https://vrchat.canny.io/bug-reports so we can track any bugs you're having down.
vocal shard
the number still doesnt matter, this game is community driven. it was a mistake to throw out that number
honestly fuck quest get rid of the quest its limiting vrchat
vestal pier
How come?
vocal shard
without quest the squeakers would be non existant
north hedge
yo if you guys are going to suck us out of the game for an update, can you at least POST what these updates ARE?! Edit: in steam, or within the client (future patch??)
vestal pier
You can right click a server and disable pings, Dawg.
west yoke
@vocal shard Did you not go to notification settings and turn on "Suppress @ everyone and @ here"?
covert chasm
If you still get pings after turning that on, that's a Discord bug. Contact their support.
Many people rely on pings from this server to know what our updates are. Coming in here and stating "stop pinging me" is like going into a newspaper and asking them to stop printing the news. 🤔
vast tulip
yeah, it's your choice to not want pings but don't expect servers with news to not announce it. want me to test ping you king?
analog forge
sounds like a bit of a you issue
vast tulip
to see if you fixed it after you change those settings
copper niche
you can
pseudo basalt
sinful lichen
Small question it says i can upload avatars and worlds but when i go to upload/publish its grayed out?
analog forge
which leg issue?
havent been on vrc in a bit so I havent gotten to experience the new update yet, but that sounds like a rigging issue
im just saying, check your avatar before you lodge complaints
ive been listening and reading, so I understand in theory
why are you getting made mate
im just trying to help
well, thanks for helping me to understand the situation a bit better
doesn't mean you have to be aggressive about it though
wow ok mate
thanks
definitely wont step on your big toe next time
tacit plank
"sounds like a rigging issue" he wasn't blaming you, just pointing out the most likely possibility
dim slate
will the "smoothed transitions" for crouching on pc be added back eventually? ;u;
ocean needle
Whats the right avatar channel to ask about a cloning issue?
sharp heron
Anyone having issues not able to load their personal avatars? They're taking forever to load, yet public avatars load up immediately.
Before the update, there wasn't an issue.
EDIT: Hmm... could've been a client-server issue of myself may not be 'fully' logged in, and it was unable to load my personal avatars. Closed and restarted VRChat fixed it.
vocal shard
@dim slate From what I've been told, yeah
ocean needle
Anyone else had issues cloning an avatar? or is it just server loading issue or something
clear warren
Ello everyone
vocal shard
Need friends in vr chat anyone wanna be friends
Pls
@ocean needle sometimes they block it
ember arch
plush gorge
or they do not have cloning on
ocean needle
Cloning is on in the settings and is also a public tick in unity
plush gorge
or in unity, when they upload their own avatars, they make them private so you can't clone
ocean needle
Its public on both in settings and unity
vocal shard
Some people don't like when I clone lol
ocean needle
even the goose model is uncloneable even tho it was
plush gorge
no, the current max is 16, but so far, I have over 120 unique avatars that I've uploaded and played in
vocal shard
Oh
ocean needle
alright so its just glitched atm and will eventually become un gliched 
plush gorge
yeah, but if you look up VRChat avatars in a search engine for your internet browser, you could find pre-made avatars that you can play with through unity and VRCSDK Avatars 2.0 or 3.0 to upload to your account
vocal shard
Hmm I will try that thx
plush gorge
Make sure to download the avatar version and load it into Unity first though
no problem
vocal shard
Wanna be friends
plush gorge
not sure
clear warren
Welp I'm hosting a strip party rn it's going great
Not fr but a party at the strip pepper
vocal shard
Ohhh can I join
clear warren
Uh sure
clear warren
Funny
vocal shard
Yea
marsh stump
Well this is new. Both hands show up in the menu but the moment I exit only one hand is detected
damn all I'm tryna do is go vibe on vrc on a friday night and it seems my pc is deciding otherwise
vocal shard
reef anchor
beef died this morning
sharp night
dd
honest flume
Not a complaint, but pointing out that the 2 recent updates pushed have made my crashing worse. I'm also experiencing my social list not loading and crashing on log in. I know you guys need time. This was just meant for info. Thanks guys.
copper niche
thats what ive been saying but i'm told im lying, i'm reporting it on canny
always exception code 0xC0000005
golden scaffold
@honest flume Sorry to hear you're still experiencing issues! We're absolutely aware that not everything single thing is fixed. Please post any bug reports to the Canny and send your crash details to Support so we can investigate. Totally understand it sounds basic, but it's the only way we know what kind of crash you're specifically experiencing. There's many kinds!
honest flume
EH.. just give it time. They are obviously working on it. 3 updates in one day! @copper niche
golden scaffold
Same applies for you as well Khosumi. We absolutely believe you may be having issues, feel free to do the above so we can try to help or at least gather information so we can.
honest flume
Thank you spark. uhh... so I have the computer knowledge of a monkey... where would I find bug reports?
copper niche
i am.
golden scaffold
@honest flume I recommend following this: https://help.vrchat.com/kb/article/17-i-crashedcant-launch-vrchatother-issues/
copper niche
got half a gb worth of dumps
honest flume
❤️ Thank you!
golden scaffold
For sure. Thanks for your patience!
copper niche
just emailed like 10 crash dumps
stiff bough
Anyone know any working fonts that VRChat recognizes and won't show as � � � � � � In game?
fathom cargo
Yeah this is crashing constantly
cobalt apex
Hewo
limber knoll
Is there anyway some could DM me and make me an avatar?
stiff bough
@limber knoll go to VRCTraders
limber knoll
@stiff bough I can’t find it?
stiff bough
Discord server full of people trading avatars and stuff
most people might charge you for their modeling
copper niche
you get what you pay for, free avatars are iffy at best
lol my friends list broke and stopped updating
solar vessel
Monkeys
stiff bough
So no one here knows any working fonts for VRchat usernames?
dapper coral
Fonts are really sus
tulip pivot
Yo
copper niche
stopped receiving invites again
raw mason
Is there a way to work around enabling avatar cloning sometimes not working? (Rejoining worlds, changing avatars, that sort of thing)
umbral plume
yeah its broke
thorny nacelle
nice
shut zodiac
anyone want to play
dark cloak
yup invites are busted
merry minnow
The only thing ive found to fix the cloning bug is to relog for the person who is having the model they are using cloned
tame wren
poop is all 3 states of matter if you think about it
shut zodiac
I believe the last patch borked portals slightly
golden scaffold
What are you noticing with portals?
Haven't run into any issues myself but that doesn't mean issues aren't happening with them
shut zodiac
some dropped portals aren't enterable and are blank
golden scaffold
hm. If you see that happen again, please take a screenshot and send in your output logs so we can investigate. I've yet to see that myself
shut zodiac
cobalt garnet
Anyone else having an issue where world loading is difficult? Ranging from the 0.00 DL Size Glitch, World's Stating they're loaded but not letting you hit go, or even trying to go to a world and it leaves you looking at the previous world you were in still functioning and unable to move? I've tried restarting vrchat and I'm wondering if it's a server thing or if it might be me. I'm Desk topping atm. I may try seeing if it's the same for VR. I've even gotten it when trying to load into the default world.
warped summit
every time i start the game it gets stuck in logging in and then i have to log in again and it works
jolly ether
animations are still borked right?
light maple
yeah I can't join anyone and can't even log in now
rip Halloween and my bday party :\
golden scaffold
Yes, there are known issues with Avatar 3.0 animations.
What issues are you seeing when trying to login?
shut zodiac
Anyone else having an issue where world loading is difficult? Ranging from the 0.00 DL Size Glitch, World's Stating they're loaded but not letting you hit go, or even trying to go to a world and it leaves you looking at the previous world you were in still functioning and unable to move? I've tried restarting vrchat and I'm wondering if it's a server thing or if it might be me. I'm Desk topping atm. I may try seeing if it's the same for VR. I've even gotten it when trying to load into the default world.
@cobalt garnet
my self and several other hoppous have been encountering these issue off and on for a while. we've yet to discover any genuine solutions.
We've just assumed it to be a backend issue
gleaming kraken
"or even trying to go to a world and it leaves you looking at the previous world you were in still functioning and unable to move" yeah im dealing with this alot now and its hella annoying
white warren
Happy Halloween 🎃
hazy jolt
I dont know why avatar 2.0 help channel no longer here, but i tryin to uppload a car for the first time and it is faceing the ground for some reason. How to fix? please dm since im slightly intoxicated 😄
and im not upploading it as humen, it has no bones.
warped summit
my friends list is completely empty.
formal lotus
Same tbh
true timber
video players horribly broken right now. 1/3 of the room hearing an older video that already played, 1/3 of the room hearing current video, 1/3 of the room hearing nothing
this update is so abhorrent it has broken like 15 different things
please fucking god just revert it already
tomorrow is the spookality event or whatever, 3.0 avatars still arent functioning properly, anyone who enters the event cant even show their avatar properly
it's all so fucked.
why does vrchat refuse to just rollback this incredibly broken patch and work on it more while we have an actual stable branch on live servers
I cant stress enough how many issues are so badly broken right now for so many different people. And to make matters even worse it's a weekend.
please stop using your live server as a testing branch.
the complaining is going to even worse tomorrow since
A) It's a Saturday which is the most popular day for users to log on
B) It's Halloween
C) Daylight savings time so this is the longest Saturday of the year
D) Spookality event that has been hyped up for over a month is going to be a disaster since everyone's 3.0 avatars aren't working correctly
please. rollback. this. update.
I unironically can not think of a single thing this update has added, fixed, or improved on.
almost everything has gotten worse since this patch
even the new refresh social menu button they added doesn't work
wise drum
so dont play then lmao
true timber
great answer
why bother trying to improve things or give feedback just dont play lmao
molten gale
Tupper explained why there wont be a rollback#
There also wont be another patch till monday
true timber
Well look forward to the hordes of people complaining tomorrow.
wise drum
why bother trying to improve things or give feedback just dont play lmao
@true timber but its the truth, if you dont like a game anymore just delete it
true timber
You're missing the point.
It's not that I don't like the game.
I wouldn't spend over 3,000 hours in a game if I didn't like it
molten gale
Its yalls fault for the faulty beta to release
true timber
I'm just frustrated with this nonsense of releasing totally broken updates
molten gale
Do yall ever test the beta? Do yall use canny?
true timber
Yes
wise drum
yeah but still in beta
molten gale
What about the beta?
molten gale
mk
true timber
Nothing more to do at this point except complain honestly.
Even if it goes nowhere
I know there are a lot of people who complain but do nothing to try and improve the game or their feedback through betas or canny posts
but I've done all that already.
and it hasn't helped.
wise drum
okey then play osu
umbral reef
Part of the open beta but dont have the role 🤔
Also you tried the latest patch as that fixed a lot of stuff related to AV3
molten gale
it didnt
umbral reef
For me it did 🤷♀️
true timber
animations still not working globally, only locally. gestures still not working globally, only locally.
some people still have issues with visemes not working.
molten gale
its more complicated
true timber
these 2 latest hotfixes have done nothing.
molten gale
true timber
except disable chairs which fixed the issue of avatar 3.0 crashing instances by sitting on chairs
so at least that's something
true timber
@umbral reef you dont need to have a special discord role to get into the open beta
molten gale
so av3 works in specific scenarios
umbral reef
Last time i checked most channels with most the info you need the role
broken plover
isnt the role just to get pinged when there's a new beta?
umbral reef
Could be they changed it since the last time
true timber
yeah it's only for that stuff
it's open so you dont need any kind of secret role or anything
why was I just warned for "Do not lie about your position in closed beta testing groups for VRChat."
I have been in there before
go ahead and ask tupper or whoever else if you want
im not lying about being in there before
vast tulip
weird how the entire crawl had all their events all night with no issues, including our weekly movie
¯_(ツ)_/¯
molten gale
the only issue is av3
and it doesnt cause crashes
it just fails to show anything under conditions
vast tulip
never seen you in there once Kizzy. Never heard of you either
molten gale
also Mimi you missed me again
true timber
bro I have seen you multiple times and seen you in the closed beta discord
umbral reef
Aint the video stuff mainly just the youtube player constantly bricking itself or does VRC also use a different player?
molten gale
I was near you most the timeeeee
true timber
you can look up my name if it even shows it still. I left it a bit ago.
umbral reef
If you do that mimi you gotta search for Kizzy#2034 not just there name 🙃
Discord be whack with there search rules
vast tulip
no results
true timber
might not be able to search me since I'm no longer in there
but I was in there, and also in udon alpha
im not making shit up.
vast tulip
but yeah paci, I looked for you this time!
molten gale
dms
modern sand
I find it odd to complain about the way we test while also saying you left the test servers
molten gale
xd
true timber
I didn't
I was kicked from them due to inactivity (which is fair) after awhile because I started getting annoyed about how I'd report things but they wouldn't be worked on because there were more important issues or something, even though some of the stuff I reported were really broken.
especially video player issues
I don't think a dev or any community management has ever commented on my video player posts on the canny no matter how many upvotes they get from people experiencing same issue
vrchat people complain there aren't enough people testing betas sometimes which is the issue
but when you do test the beta and still have your reports and stuff ignored
what do you even do at that point
broken plover
I once had it that the beta didn't have any gamebreaking bugs, but the live release after that did for some reason...
true timber
like I understand the complaint of not enough people testing beta and stuff which leads to bugs on live because not enough quantity of people testing, that makes a lot of sense and is definitely excusable
what's inexcusable though is having bug reports ignored constantly
even sometimes when I attach videos or logs
still gets ignored.
i legit don't know how much else I can even try and help with feedback or bug testing anymore because it just simply does not work.
lapis saffron
damn
vocal shard
🤔
true timber
I really don't think it's the developers.
I think it's just the upper management
of deciding what gets worked on, what should be released, when it should be released
ignore reports of X thing because we need to focus on Y thing
broken plover
also vive controls are still broken ever since the avatar 3.0 update first released. I also don't remember those issues being in the beta for avatar 3.0. And since the issue arrived, there have been a lot of canny posts but not one of them has atleast been marked as "under review" or something.
true timber
I can't pretend to know how things actually work internally among the dev team, but I really wouldn't doubt if upper management was heavily controlling stuff like that.
umbral reef
Unless VRC has a really whack internal stucture its upper managements fault.
Devs should never be allowed to release updated themself and ect
dull compass
Wait really they finally work like they did before 3.0 for me that’s weird
true timber
I dont think its that devs release update themselves, more like upper management dictates when they should release them
uncut gorge
anyone defending the dev team's decision to push this patch live is just a sycophant
true timber
again, I can't prove any of this as actual fact or anything, it's just my assumption based on the amount of time I've spent in this game and the amount of absolutely broken updates and patches I've seen after 2 years
I have no doubt the devs are working as hard as they can right now to fix everything
But the fact of the matter is, it's upper managements fault for telling them to fix everything as fast as they can instead of just saying ok, let's revert the update and work on it a lot more in testing instead of testing on the live servers
uncut gorge
the timing of this awful patch is impeccable too, longest weekend of the year, first halloween on a saturday in years, days before the US civil war, etc
true timber
Yeah why does this keep always happening on either weekend nights, or right before a holiday
Has no one ever thought of releasing an update on a Monday or something
uncut gorge
how hard could it have been to just put the files on the server that were there the day before the patch. lol
true timber
meh people said the same shit about lavender
uncut gorge
yeah VRchat doesn't have much competition right now, that's all that's keeping us here at this point
true timber
fact of the matter is there is no current competition
west yoke
It only becomes competition if a decent amount of people actually play it when it comes out.
true timber
I haven't, but I know that it's not even in open alpha yet (although I hear that's coming in a few days), and for right now has extremely minimal playerbase
Lavender was marked as "competition" too.
and Nios and etc.
fact of the matter is, all of these games are made by even smaller dev teams than VRChat has, and it will take awhile to even get to the polish VRChat has right now, despite all of the bugs.
uncut gorge
CVR looks pretty good, but the facto f the matter is, that it's a social game and it needs a user base. It has to be good enough to convince everyone AND their friends to move over. Additionally has to convince everyone to create content for it, etc. It's analogous to getting everyone to use parler instead of twitter, or bitchute instead of youtube. Not an easy task
true timber
maybe, but does it have the same polish VRChat has? the same features? and the most actually matter of importance, will it have a populated userbase?
well if I look at lavender for example
it has different features than vrchat
does it have all the same features vrchat has now though?
vrchat took 6 years to get to the point it's at
can you send an invite to someone to join your instance in lavender currently?
last time I tested it wasnt even a feature yet
basic stuff like that is what I mean by polish
umbral reef
Big problem with VRC is that most of the old code stuff from years ago got made when unity and ect didnt even properly support VR
Starting a VR game now is leaps easier with the insane amount of supported tools and information resources out there
true timber
still, a product that hasn't even reached open alpha yet, will not be superior to a game that has been worked on for 6 years, with millions of dollars in funding.
umbral reef
They are kinda doing that bargon
true timber
no matter how fucked and broken vrchat may seem, it is still far more polished and working than competitors
restarting an entire game from scratch isn't viable
umbral reef
They are reworking most things from the ground up while keeping the legacy stuff in for now.
What is kinda not handy but needed too.
true timber
3,575 hours
why do you ask?
I'm only defending it in terms of comparing a game that has been in development for many years and has had many backers, a growing team of developers, and a source of investor money behind it.
and also the fact it exploded in 2018
with everyone knowing what vrchat is
and all the memes that spawned from it, etc.
it would be extremely hard for a brand new game to overtake vrchat
even if CVR is amazing and incredible and fantastic and better than vrchat in every way and etc.
fact of the matter is, if you dont have the userbase, it wont matter
people said the same about lavender so im hesitant to completely believe
umbral reef
Also just having players isnt what a game needs.
You need people with an actual personality and not just mirror sitters
vast tulip
I've used CVR. I wasn't really impressed. It was lacking so much. Me and the few friends that went into it could barely use it really. It is very unpolished and very rough. Not only that, unlike other competitors, it didn't offer anything unique either.
No matter what, I have still yet to find any vr app with the ease of use and quality of vrc
true timber
yeah but that kinda boils down to "let me hang out with my 15 people of actual personality while vrchat has 15,000 concurrent users online"
might sound great to those 15 people but
sandbox games like this need more than that
feral obsidian
Push to talk still dead?
vast tulip
The coolest thing about cvr was how you move from one world to the next without a loading screen. But that's just a neat gimmick
feral obsidian
Oi, how's push to talk?
true timber
Yeah but you can't prove I'm wrong yet until it actually publicly hugely releases and there's more than 20-100 people playing at a time
umbral reef
Oh you sure need both kizzy
But if you got 5 entertaining people who engage with new users and 50 mirror sitters who wont include you in there group or engage you. Whats the point of playing that social game when others have way more people and way more engaging people (like VRC with its large userbase).
true timber
so if that happens
please shit on me all you want, because I unironically would love to be proven wrong on that
feral obsidian
Doesn't function on me
true timber
I mean I think what I'm saying is pretty basic and logical
I'd love for the game to be popular
and I'd love to be proven wrong about my thoughts of it not being popular
yeah but how big
how many people are playing CVR right now
lavender had like a 1,000-2,000+ discord community too
the game is completely dead with 0 people
vocal shard
why would I play CVR when all my friends are in VRC and CVR doesn't offer anything more
true timber
I'd love for CVR to be popular and be competition for vrchat, I simply just don't see it happening. VRChat is a brand name even people who don't have VR know.
vast tulip
That's my issue with it svel
true timber
I'll check it out. I have been interested in seeing what it's like
vast tulip
All the other competitors have really unique features
west yoke
Well it offers very little more then VRC (yes I am in the closed alpha for it)
vocal shard
even with more features, the simple fact that's it basically empty of players and that all my friends aren't on it doesn't make it worth to switch
vast tulip
You could have told me one in that message instead of just saying I'm wrong
vocal shard
please enlighten me on what CVR is doing way better than VRC to make it worth the switch ?
vast tulip
The only interesting and unique feature I saw was the no loading screen world move
If you can do that and stay with a group even better
true timber
I don't think it's that it offers nothing new compared to VRChat, because I'm sure it does, I'm sure it does a lot of things better. But the problem is, it needs a userbase, and I don't know if it will really be able to pull people away from VRChat if it's barely entering open alpha right now.
vast tulip
About a month ago was the last time I was on it
modern hill
Oofie
solar raptor
Anyone know of any Halloween events tonight?
vast tulip
It uses hdrp?
vocal shard
I don't mind any of the stuff on your first sentence
because I can simply block people, ignore them or just play in friend instances without those weirdos
umbral reef
So its more optimized. Thats the only difference as all those user related problems will instantly move over once it gets popular
true timber
@solar raptor I think there's the spookality event happening tomorrow (aka tonight)
but it's probably going to be really scuffed since avatar 3.0 is still not fixed.
solar raptor
Ah
vast tulip
You know why it doesn't have any of that? Because no one is in it yet. If it blew up it would have the exact same issues in the same way. I'm not sure why you think that would be any different
solar raptor
Does anyone wanna come hang out tonight? Maybe have some drinks, get to know each other, listen to music, dance?
vocal shard
it is in no way a good argument for CVR
dull compass
Ok sure it may be nice now but how can we know it will stay like that forever
vocal shard
since a way bigger community will inevitably also bring toxicity
dull compass
If all the vrc players migrate it defiantly won’t
vast tulip
So you think the app will somehow dictate humane nature ifvit blew up?
pastel portal
Things I'm liking about CVR is the facts that it doesn't have a cesspool of toxicity, overly-lewd people and mirror-sitters. It's far more optimized, is running over a better version of Unity and under a far superior render pipeline. Can go on but you can most definitely put your two eyeballs to use and read what they're doing yourself rather than milking answers out of me to try and prove me wrong.
@vocal shard No cesspool of toxicity, overly-lewd people and mirror-sitters because the pool is still a small puddle
umbral reef
Kinda just shows how you dont understand humanity and the internet
vast tulip
Why do you think the app is choice would change that
vocal shard
a CVR bootlicker then, I see
modern hill
@vocal shard ur not even in the cvr discord TF
vocal shard
vrchat was way bigger before xqc bigged it up and it was already toxic
pastel portal
Probably got banned from here with his main account
vast tulip
You realize the moment any platform blows up, it will instantly have the same issues in the same way
feral obsidian
I need
vocal shard
a single streamer won't change the whole mentality of a game
vocal shard
and it will be the same for CVR if it ever gets popular, which I doubt because there is nothing special about it
modern hill
Anyone got an idea to make it work again?
@feral obsidian does the settings not work?
vocal shard
nothing shots above my head, I would simply catch it
vast tulip
Ok. Anyways. I think the point has been said on both sides enough. We should cool it on this topic
pastel portal
There is literally nothing CVR is doing different than VRC when it comes to dealing with toxic people. I dont know how it crosses your mind to even use that as an argument
frank raven
Could anyone here possibly give me assistance in avatar-3-help?
vocal shard
yeah, especially since Bargonian said he will always disagree
so there is nothing to even argue about
ask in avatar-3 channel and wait for an asnwer
I played the game 3 times since 2020
wouldn't consider myself as active
vast tulip
@frank raven #avatar-help
pastel portal
Unfortunately this argument is going nowhere for several reasons; I'm arguing with actives who defend this game at a moments cost no matter how bad it is, and the fact that the game isn't out yet. But I'd be really glad to come back and prove you wrong whenever the game does blow up. And if it doesn't, feel free to shit on me. But I'd like to atleast have hope that a better game is coming out.
@vocal shard I don't defend any side, using poorly stated arguments is what i am against.
vocal shard
And I can't wait 5 years from now on to still see CVR being dead will vrchat is still being popular and getting better and better
pastel portal
@pastel portal Hey, I don't give a shit. Don't ping me.
@vocal shard Block me
frank raven
I already asked Mimi
vocal shard
then wait for an answer xd
frank raven
Have been
modern hill
Cvr has a less toxic community atm as it's a smol game and it's difficult to aquire atm like mostly creators and there isn't public avatars which makes it not very playable for like 90% @vocal shard
vast tulip
I'll check it out naura!
frank raven
< 3 ty
vast tulip
Not sure if I'll be off any help
frank raven
Any help would be useful really
modern hill
I know the game lmao I'm a early tester from when it was just a mess lmao , but i don't see why u would talk about a competitor in this chat
west yoke
Just to point something out. VRChat also didn't have a toxic community when it was small, but when it grew quite significantly it got worse.
If CVR can somehow manage that (if they do get popular) then sure.
Something I would like to know is what exactly is so different about it over VRChat? I've played it and only saw small (but nice) quality of life differences myself.
vocal shard
🐒
vast tulip
Ok, I let this go on a while because I didn't want to just shut it down right away, as with rule 22 I'll say that we should stop talking about this. Take it to DMs if you want to keep going on about it
modern hill
Hey, u don't thing vrchat cares
vocal shard
they made udon for world creator
av3 for avatar creators
how can you say that they don't c are ?
vocal shard
No you don't, you just have no arguments to defend your point
muted wharf
Can y'all don't
vocal shard
CVR is just a gimmick at best in his current release and nothing more
modern hill
It's just a game chill
dull compass
Y’all should have stopped arguing when he said nothing could convince him vrc is better
modern hill
Ohh he said dat
vocal shard
hey you are the one that said you were shitting on us ebcause you knew that CVR will replace vrchat
vast tulip
Interesting how you keep insulting people to try and prove your point
When no one else is doing that to you
modern hill
Ok?
raw pine
modern hill
It's just a game, u can like whatever u want doesn't mean ur gonna act superior and at least not talk about them like their this way better thing in the competitors discord
vocal shard
you are not the first vrc-competitor shill coming here saying all the same shit
where should i look to find how to update my sdk, i heard its changed
people did the same thing for Neos > still dead game
people did the same thing for lavender > still dead
CVR will be no different 🙂
jolly ether
oml, take it elsewhere
raw pine
LMAO
jolly ether
F
vocal shard
modern hill
@vocal shard when u download the sdk it should bring u do a doc site, maybe below the download
jolly ether
Thanks Nyxie
raw pine
Yh
dull compass
Guy straight shilled for an hour
muted wharf
Let's not throw insults around. Don't keep the conversation going when he's not here.
dull compass
Was funny
raw pine
Thanks
vocal shard
screenshot the CVR discord where he is talking about censorship in the vrc discord 😂
raw pine
Lol
modern hill
Lol anyways how's ur days
raw pine
hope you all have a wonderful week and a lovely day and if you guys need someone to talk too. I'm here for you and don't let other people bring you down. Also if someone says bad stuff to you I just think they're talking to themselves like usual. Remember you all are beautiful and amazing people and I'll support you all to the end
vast tulip
Anyways. How's everyone doing tonight?
jolly shoal
bored myself
muted wharf
I found a nearby taqueria
hot prairie
anybody know when #community-servers-old applications will come back?
muted wharf
And their barbacoa is great
raw pine
I'm doing good
muted wharf
My day was about 3x better because of that
jolly ether
I got motion sick playing vr phasmophobia
So here I am
vocal shard
gonna go eat with family soon
didn't see them for like a month
jolly shoal
watching vintage wrestling twitch streams
vocal shard
covid 😩
modern hill
I'm just gonna have some friends over
raw pine
Hope you have a lot of fun svel
modern hill
And they just decided to come extremely early reee
vocal shard
after 7 months, people that I actually know are starting to get it
Getting slightly scary ngl
raw pine
👀
modern hill
Ngl 2020 has been a shit yr
raw pine
Trueee
vocal shard
What if 2020 wasn't just a shit year but the beginning of a shit decade ?
jolly ether
Just don't breathe and you won't get it, ez
modern hill
Ohh gowd
raw pine
vast tulip
So what do you all think about how this Halloween will be the first full moon, AND First hunters moon on Halloween since 1944? AND The night will be one hour longer if in the us
jolly ether
Spooky
modern hill
uvu
vocal shard
maybe actual ghosts will appear
raw pine
I love this sever soo much because of the mods here and the team and you guys!
vocal shard
IRL furries 😱
vital sky
I'm gonna stay for the entire night to take some photos of the moon!
modern hill
Ohj gowd @raw pine love u More ❤️
raw pine
modern hill
Reee
jolly ether
tumbleweed
vocal shard
Are there no voice channels?
vital sky
yep
vocal shard
There is a text chat called music but there is no voice chat...
I don't understand the point
west yoke
You can always read the channel description
muted wharf
You are thoroughly welcome to yell the lyrics very loudly in hopes there's another VRChat player around though
muted wharf
vocal shard
💩
jolly ether
and smells suspiciously like salami
Hmm
muted wharf
nyx can have a little bit of salami as a treat
vocal shard
Salami is an Italian dish, and I, as an Italian, suggest that you be cautious about this speech
vast tulip
I don't get it
jolly ether
🤔
civic wigeon
ITALIANO
vocal shard
anbody know what song they used in the VRChat hub spookiality?
shut zodiac
anyone want to play
covert blade
12k people online, plenty of people to find
shut zodiac
anyone want to play
thorn owl
happy halloween everyone!
covert blade
You already asked that
somber wren
Hey, anyone here with a slow-ish internet connection? Do you feel anxious/uncomfortable when joining busy public worlds and it takes so long to see anyone's avatars?
I find it awkward to talk to people if I can't see what they look like (or how tall their avatar is).
warped summit
People need to learn to use that crunch button 😋
somber wren
Heh, yeah, or just not use such high-res textures. Can't really see that detail with today's VR screens.
jolly ether
I usually wait at spawn and wait for people to download
somber wren
Although, I can't expect hobbyists to understand everything about professional game dev software.
Yeah, same. I stand and pretend to like I haven't initialized yet or something lol
covert blade
I feel like downloading avatars for me is going fairly bad in general
Like sometimes I would join an instance, see a few people and it takes ages for the avatar to download, being stuck at 100% for a very long time
thorn owl
how much do you need to play to get "known user" rank
covert blade
There is no set time
jolly ether
Depends
covert blade
You just play until it happens
thorn owl
there was for new user
covert blade
Nope
thorn owl
10 hours
jolly ether
Making public content for the game helps greatly
covert blade
New User has no set time either
Only a rough estimation but the higher the ranks go, the more it varies with how much is required
covert blade
It's not a fixed value though, some get it after a few hours
But tbh, ranks beyond User are somewhat pointless anyways
jolly ether
The higher the rank the more likely they are to crash you :3
covert blade
Not really
somber wren
@covert blade When I join, I often see some people's avatars (mostly) stuck at like 20% or whatever while one other person's avatar very slowly downloads. Then the others unstick afterwards.
thorn owl
But tbh, ranks beyond User are somewhat pointless anyways
@covert blade I know but sometimes if you have a higher rank people are most likely gonna wanna start a convo with you
somber wren
I figure that it would be better if VRChat downloaded avatars one at a time starting with the smallest file sizes and leave those few huge ones until last. I wrote a suggestion post about it: https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/download-avatars-in-series-not-parallel-prioritizing-small-file-size Please upvote if you agree 
covert blade
That + downloading friends avatar first
Because to be honest, friends are usually those that I would want to interact with first before anyone else and it's awkward when they are one of the last avatars to load in but I also think my PC is just kinda poop and that's why it doesnt work so well for me
somber wren
I think I actually saw someone had posted a suggestion about friends avatars loading first. I must go upvote that as well
covert blade
Already had that upvoted
vocal shard
im new to vrchat, can anyone recommend some good worlds to join?
golden scaffold
Welcome to VRChat, @vocal shard. 🥳 You might wanna check out some of the community spotlight or popular worlds categories listed in the 'Worlds' section of your menu for some of the more populated locations. There's tons of awesome worlds to find by just searching around though. I've found many hidden gems!
vocal shard
happy hallowen everyone
jagged tendon
uncut trail
RIP Sir Sean Connery
ember arch
Wuh?
amber juniper
@covert blade I know but sometimes if you have a higher rank people are most likely gonna wanna start a convo with you
@thorn owl not for me, I don't care what rank the others have, I look for their behaviour, not their rank ;) I've met really interesting people which where visitor, and I've met a lot of annoying trusted users, just saying.
uncut trail
Yeah he died of age of 90
fallen nova
how can i get random avatars ?
ruby needle
§15. No posting the same question or statement across multiple channels.
little lava
i figured it would be better for my pc if vrchat would not depend on cpu 😭
fallen nova
Your account is not yet permitted to use Canny. how can i do that ?
muted wharf
Must be New User or above
fallen nova
i just created my account
covert blade
New account = Visitor
fallen nova
and how can i be a visitor ?
muted wharf
You start at Visitor.
New User is the next rank.
Visitor -> New User -> User -> Known User -> Trusted User
fallen nova
how long does it take to be a new user ?
ruby needle
Not time based.
covert blade
No set amount of time, you just play until it happens
ruby needle
Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a not time based trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.
You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord, a rough estimate would be ** 20-40 hours**, but big exceptions are possible.
Make sure you are not using a steam or oculus account and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.
http://help.vrchat.com/kb/article/27-why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet
muted wharf
Only like... two people maybe have actually dug into that code and know how it works :p
It's a seeeecret
But yeah the copy/pasta's a good starting point :p
fallen nova
how can i download like random avatars without having to go into avatar worlds is there any website or something ?
amber juniper
just some weeks ago, a friend of mine bragged that she reached trusted user with over 1000 "friends"
I'm sitting here, spent probably less than half the time in VRChat, have a bit more than a 100 friends, but I have two worlds and about 50 Avatars ;)
amber juniper
(and I reached it much faster)
clear warren
But anyway last night me and this chick I like had so much fun
amber juniper
but yeah, just play, met people, met some new friends, play some games, just like it's intended and you will rank up automaticly
covert blade
Worlds seem to greatly contribute towards the trust rank
little lava
i played vrchat a while ago and i met so many wholesome people
clear warren
You know you ever just think instead of erping literally hugging each other for hours
covert blade
A lot of avatars possibly too
clear warren
Both high
little lava
like that one kevin dude i met he's so wholesome
clear warren
Last night was the best but anyway hi everyone
amber juniper
Hi Feazy
clear warren
Ello
little lava
also while playing vrchat i while ago my pc was crying lmao
clear warren
Aww
little lava
i always monitor the usage and it sometimes goes to 100% like wtf
clear warren
I cried from the affection remii
Gave me ❤️
Yo @amber juniper sorry for the ping but how often do you play vrchat
little lava
amber juniper
pretty much daily
amber juniper
since may I think
clear warren
Oh lit
amber juniper
there where only a few days where I didn't play ;)
but I do play a bit less now days
little lava
i don't think my pc would like it if i play vrchat daily
amber juniper
instead of maybe 8h a day, now it's more like 3-4h
clear warren
XD
Well does anyone know how to possibly take like pictures and VR chat on a quest and then like possibly transfer them onto a phone
amber juniper
especially because I started making my own avatars a while back, and that takes time ;)
clear warren
Cuz bro I need my profile picture to be one of my avatars
amber juniper
nowdays I'm making my own assets, clothing etc. from scratch, which takes even more time...