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#vrchat-general-2
zenith torrent
cinder elk
as sdk3 uses the toggles instead of gestures anyway
pseudo basalt
sdk3 can still do gestures just like sdk2
it tracks which gesture id you do, then you can choose what to do with them
cinder elk
can but most people don't because toggles are better in most cases
pseudo basalt
not for fingers, but for faces yeah
could also do a toggle for faces when doing gestures
ruby burrow
That "most people don't" line doesn't remotely reflect reality. '-'
pseudo basalt
currently I'm using a radial puppet for faces but it ends up me forgetting to pick a face
cinder elk
most sdk3 avatars i've seen use toggles for most and only a few hand gestures for some things
ruby burrow
Basically everyone using AV3 still uses gestures same as always. If they have toggles for props/animations and other features, then that's just extra stuff.
pseudo basalt
so i think I'll put it on gestures as well
well I'm talking more about making your own setup
if you're talking about public avatars then lots of them are still sdk2 and terrible
cinder elk
'terrible ?'
cinder elk
well yeah but that's the same with a lot of sdk3 avatars and worlds
alot of vrc is just poor optimisation
ruby burrow
Well I wouldn't say AV3 is necessarily any better in that regard, although it does at least imply that the avatar is new and the creator more likely to have existing experience.
pseudo basalt
what do you mean you don't want your toe to collide with your front hair
cinder elk
what is av3?
pseudo basalt
sdk3
cinder elk
ah
pseudo basalt
Exactly what i mean squishy
cinder elk
that's what bone limits are for
ruby burrow
I do happen to know someone who's model has dynamic toes, with collision so the fingers can poke them. >_>
pseudo basalt
Yeah and that's fine but if people don't care about bones to the point where they have so many collision checks then they probably don't care about materials either
heady salmon
butt collider
pseudo basalt
Lots of popular public avatars, especially egirl trash, is always very poor
ruby burrow
Mhmm. Those ones with the hair wrapping round everything like energetic jelly snakes, are usually the main culprits.
obsidian reef
Yay i actually got a passible avatar through
pseudo basalt
Avatar ~creators~ are irresponsible and have no reason to be when they can just complain the game is poorly optimized, or only play on desktop and don't lag
heady salmon
I can't say anything I make will ever be good enough, but hey, better than using the same ole thot anime egirl avatar, huh?
obsidian reef
-_- i can tell that Carlie Spends most of his times looking at CBBE mod for Skyrim
ruby burrow
I tend to have a lot of props and random toggle objects on my avatar, so it always comes out as very poor as well.
Whenever that stuff is disabled (which it is by default) it would show up as green, if the system didn't count disabled objects.
cinder elk
i mean the mode colliders and polygons, the better it looks
and the better something looks the laggier it is
pseudo basalt
Not really
better settings and properly setup curves can look better than paper hair
in fact, less is better to a point
heady salmon
there is a poly max, thankfully
cinder elk
some of the best looking things done with modelling came from limitations in hardware
limits cause creativity
pseudo basalt
But dbone colliders are janky as hell anyway
heady salmon
style~
ruby burrow
We obviously can't expect the average VR-Chat player to have the optimisation skills of a triple A professional modeler, but it is unfortunate that some don't even try.
pseudo basalt
egirl avatars especially piss me off
cinder elk
e___ in general are laggy
pseudo basalt
not only do they very often look exactly the same due to the same tda face texture, you know, the doll one with lips, they use flat shaded sims clothes with logos on top
cinder elk
all the anime shit
pseudo basalt
actual low quality avatar with low performance
should not be a thing
but people don't call out bad performance so nobody has a reason to care
cinder elk
i mean the thing is you can't really limit it yourself to make it less laggy cus so many people use them
pseudo basalt
i can but then people are robots
cinder elk
i used to have it limited at poor and like 50% of the avatars didn't load
pseudo basalt
i don't care personally, im already getting low fps in public
my comfort is more important
ruby burrow
The one weak excuse that drives me nuts is, "I don't get lag, so it's not my avatar."
Firstly, it's a lie. They're playing VR-Chat. No one plays this game without experiencing lag.
Secondly, it's just a nonsense argument and not how anything works.
pseudo basalt
just manually showing people at this point
cinder elk
can't you play on desktop mode in vr for less lag?
pseudo basalt
what if i want to lie down and play in vr
ruby burrow
I've never actually played in desktop mode spare for testing my worlds for 10 minutes at a time.
Oh wait, I mis-understood you.
pseudo basalt
i used to play in desktop a lot while working on stuff but then just moved to discord
cinder elk
ill probably switch to desktop mode so it's smoother
pseudo basalt
you mean desktoplow graphics?
cinder elk
i was in the home world with me and 1 other person and was shocked to occasionally get 100 fps
huh what's desktop high like?
pseudo basalt
No idea
cinder elk
might try that in vr
pseudo basalt
I haven't noticed much difference but there are some things
cinder elk
is it smoother?
pseudo basalt
Also haven't noticed much difference
west yoke
There's a DesktopHigh preset?
pseudo basalt
Since you're either at 90, 45 or lower than 45 all the time anyway
Maybe there isn't, i don't remember
But whatever the default one is
west yoke
hmm, I don't ever recall one. It was just VRHigh (Default), VRLow and DesktopLow
pseudo basalt
I'm assuming default is desktop high
pseudo basalt
i think so
if you're in vr, changing the window size changes the resolution of outline glows, for some reason
cinder elk
would it also decrease my vr res tho?
pseudo basalt
no
cinder elk
huh, so what should i set it to?
pseudo basalt
but I'm not sure if you change it from the menu or just resize the window
pseudo basalt
i think resizing the window does the same thing
cinder elk
i always full screen my window on a 1440p monitor
huh i might try making the window smaller
pseudo basalt
i used to make it smaller but I don't remeber if it did much
cinder elk
by default it's pretty small
pseudo basalt
in theory it should
cinder elk
i mean it might just upscale it
pseudo basalt
there's also headset super sampling
cinder elk
idek what that is or how to use it or how smooth it is
cinder elk
makes it lower?
pseudo basalt
higher is clearer but laggier, lower is blurrier but supposedly better performing
cinder elk
ofc lower is better performing
pseudo basalt
but not by much in some cases
cinder elk
but i don't want lower really
pseudo basalt
so it's not worth the blur
cinder elk
the thing is im prolly more cpu bottlenecked than gpu
pseudo basalt
it is
pseudo basalt
i got a 6500
it's definitely cpu bottlenecked
supposedly performance improvements coming in the next update tho
or rather next few
heavy improvements according to the community post so... hype?
fresh kestrel
Has anyone used one 2.0 base station? And had good tracking?
vocal shard
There is no CPU that enables you to reliably max your FPS on this game =/ an RTX 3090 won't improve anything if you have a decent GPU now
ivory zephyr
zinc scaffold
Who have quest 2?
Becuase i want to know about animtions like floppy ears or tails
tacit plank
Can we have more friends favorites? I want to add more but I've filled all 3
torn schooner
is there some kind of server problem rn? I was running the game fine like a few minutes ago and now loading into everything is just a black screen or it keeps loading forever
zinc scaffold
@torn schooner restart headset or pc
torn schooner
restarted pc twice and my headset, cleared cache, and after a couple of tries of booting it up and stuff it just has seemed to fixed itself
umbral reef
I wonder when VRC will give information on there quest 2 support and so on seeing it got officially released today
vocal shard
They ain't sniching
heady salmon
It would also be nice if my mouse was window-locked into vrchat so I didn't randomly click on something on my taskbar when I look down in-game.
stable folio
It happens occasionally
shell summit
dusky lantern
my first vr headset arrives today very excited!!!
dusky lantern
quest 2
still solstice
Hopefully i'm not a bother, but does anyone here know where I can ask for help on VRChat?
dusky lantern
still solstice
Thank you.
dusky lantern
np
worn abyss
Hi can you create in the VR chat world like you can in Rec Room or can you only create by using Unity? Apologies for the newcomer question.
regal furnace
only via unity
still solstice
It's actually pretty easy once you understand the process. I'd recommend seeing a video about it if you're interested.
zenith tree
Say, if you have an index, VRChat can run above 90FPS right?
broken plover
yes. It runs at the refresh rate of the headset (and in desktop mode you can even change the limit with start arguments)
so for example if you have a rift s which is only 80hz it will run at 80fps max. If you put your index to 144hz it will run at 144fps max
hasty rose
Anyone know any good space station maps in this EPIC game
zenith tree
A person accused me of client usage for reaching more than 100FPS with my index.
odd blaze
asw/motion smoothing will cap you easy in vrchat, so half fram to avoid jumping up down (40~80 , 45/90 , 77?/144)
can disable if but will usually look 'teary'
zenith tree
72 is it
odd blaze
Not a very actiony game where a game you really want 60+ , so half is usually fine
pliant orchid
hi
unreal current
cold talon
People be running at 144fps,meanwhile I can barely get 40,usually 25-30 
vocal shard
Upgrade time
cold talon
Dang, and built the pc with the original intent to be good at vr
vocal shard
It sent that message like 4 times
shell plume
hi
cold talon
It changed a while ago
Now the body will follow you around being connected to your irl head
humble trench
Is vrchat on oculus quest 2 going to be good?
humble trench
On 2??
cold talon
Still an android platform, so it will have the same limitations as quest 1,just higher resolution and some fps gain
And yes I'm talking about 2
cold talon
As a headset it's very good, the big downside is the whole facebook part of the deal
cold talon
Well, having to log in with your real Facebook account
humble trench
Go on...
cold talon
I dont really want peps to be able to see who I am irl while in vr, or people that I got on Facebook to be able to see everything I do in vr
humble trench
What can they do with that information?
odd blaze
🤷♂️ Have one i never ever use, what are they gonna do, show me ads in vr
last time i posted anything or any program posted for me on facebook was 2015, turned off all their settings so they arent allowed to do anything without asking me first
real umbra
What can they do with that information?
@𝖑𝖚𝖇#5760 mostly id think it's about say someone's hard on others who play something. they'd make fun or tease them too much and it's degrading them. and then they could troll them on facebook cause you can still send a message request
vocal shard
Anyone else experiencing slow load times on vrc atm?
subtle nest
Anyone know any worlds with avatars that have the chair trigger on the avatar? I wanna carry people around lol
magic sphinx
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tropic pawn
anyone know how quest2 link image quality/lag compares to an original rift cv1?
ruby needle
Lag no idea, image quality should be a big stepup still
regal furnace
be aware of the 72hz compared to the 90hz on the CV1
tropic pawn
but it will do 90hz next update
regal furnace
they also said they are gonna make a Rift 2 and that you never need a facebook account for oculus products...
lament zinc
Quick question
Is it normal for the mute button to be outside your vision usually?
I started my Quest 2, linked it up, and went straight to VRChat in Steam VR
languid beacon
I’m concerned Facebook is all about this quest 2 release but what they’re actually missing is lunch titles. Like it’s just the same stuff there’s nothing big releasing at the same time
ruby needle
I mean, Q2 is considered as a "refresh" of Q1 rather then next gen isn't it?
regal furnace
the quest1 wasnt particular powerful from the beginning, it was rather a test that proved itself
languid beacon
I mean, Q2 is considered as a “refresh” of Q1 rather then next gen isn’t it?
@ruby needle I suppose, but for most people it’s going to be a portable console purchase that has no exclusives and no launch titles. It’s a very weak launch for anything.
ruby needle
That's why im saying it, it's not it's own "new gen" wich "new possibilities"
More a improved Q1 with more fidelity.
languid beacon
For most people it’s completely new 
I’m talking about how it’s going to be perceived
Imagine buying a PlayStation 2 and the only titles are scaled up PlayStation 1 games you could have played on the previous system 
tropic pawn
hmmm if quest cant see your hands if you raise them too much, how do you play HL:Alyx where you need to throw things over your shoulder
ruby needle
It's more like buying a PS4 or the improved model that runs the same shit but can do 4k or 60FPS
regal furnace
Rift S and WMR works too with HLA
umbral reef
@tropic pawn be quick so the tracking software can do that prediction
Same as how all other insideout tracking headsets worked
languid beacon
Quest 2 can and will have exclusives, but there’s huge pressure to make games that work for both right now
tropic pawn
all ive used is the cv1
ruby needle
The camera's are not the only thing tracking
umbral reef
@ruby needle But those are called 'pro' or 'slim' and dont have a fully new special number with insanely large marketing campains
But TBH its insane they dont have like an 'quest 2' pack for beatsaber where you can get it a tad bit cheaper and get that dlc for free or some jazz
They own the company, throwing money is a non problem for facebook and it would get a lot of people happy when first buying the thing as its a great game still
ruby needle
The nice thing about rythm games is that they're kinda evergreens.
And if it gets to loosy, add more songs. 
languid beacon
all ive used is the cv1
@tropic pawn you have what are in my opinion the most comfortable controllers ever and the best controller tracking. Tho you don’t know what you’re missing when it comes to visuals. Enjoy it while you can it’s easy to get spoiled by better headsets and then you can’t go back
ruby needle
Also still rocking my CV1, and i agree the controllers are awesome and they are perfectly balanced in the hand
You dont even need to grip them
Sadly the band has to be above for the ISO HMD's
Which mean's you do need to grip them and they are less ideally balanced. 
regal furnace
CV1 sure was great, but the huge amount of software issues kinda drove me off
regal furnace
random software crashes, connection issues, update problems, random tracking losses
ruby needle
for me thats a: nope, nah, nope, no losses in the actually tracked area.
regal furnace
and then the HMD started to fall apart too
tropic pawn
i just hear the image quality is pretty bad on the cv1 compared to whats out now
regal furnace
it is
languid beacon
CV one tracking never gave me any issues, it was perfection for two straight years. Tho I used 3 cameras so that helps 
ruby needle
Actually, i only use 2 camears and that is on USB 2.0 aswell
And even that runs nicely.
languid beacon
Going from 3 CV1 cameras to two base stations feels like a big downgrade. Plus when you do lose tracking on lighthouse it flies into space instead of just disappearing for a moment 
ruby needle
disappear?
when my tracking loses the position locks in place, but rotations still work from the internal sensors.
regal furnace
Basestation tracking is more reliable once you took the time to set it up properly
languid beacon
Yeah on CV one whenever a loss tracking the object would either freeze or disappear, depending on game. On Lighthouse you just get bad interpolation data 
tropic pawn
cant even try out a headset anywhere here, even before the covid. got to buy on faith that the reviews are right and not paid for
regal furnace
same here
ruby needle
I only really play VRChat so i dont know. But there it does the freez in place and you can still rotate thing
regal furnace
if you want a index through-the-lens, i have one right besides me
ruby needle
individual "trough the lens" shots are pointless
languid beacon
 freezing (Oculus) is much better than going into space (Vive and Index)
ruby needle
the same person / camera needs to do the comparing tests, can't take individual images of different people and setups well
languid beacon
And God help you if your actual index headset loses tracking because then your actual viewpoint goes into space or underground 
regal furnace
it goes gray when it looses tracking
languid beacon
Oh you’re lucky if it loses tracking
But if it’s pretty sure you’re in space you’re going in space
regal furnace
every index gets gray
regal furnace
never had that issue
languid beacon
Lucky
languid beacon
If your headset and hands track perfectly fine but your body trackers don’t, it’s usually not a tracking issue it’s an RF signal issue.
Bad RF signal issues look exactly like bad tracking, you really can’t tell the difference
regal furnace
i somehow fixed it to some degree
but i would not know where my interference would come from
regal furnace
10.9k people want
royal orchid
hello i have a question, for starting vr what headset should i get (dont wanna quest xD)
tropic pawn
reverb2 or quest2
vocal shard
reverb
royal orchid
never heard of that
upper cradle
Mornin all
royal orchid
@upper cradle hello
regal furnace
Reverb G2 or Index if you can afford it
sharp saddle
reverb
@vocal shard Going high-end, eh?
vocal shard
don't have a choice
sharp saddle
@tropic pawn Do you have a capable PC and surplus budget?
vocal shard
index isnt sold in my country
so it's either over expensive and not worth it Vive pro
or reverb
royal orchid
buy one pre owned
vocal shard
because fuck oculus and fuck facebook
tropic pawn
gpu is weak but it will be replaced at xmas, only got a 1070
languid beacon
Here's an example of a weak RF signal on lighthouse, the controller is perfectly tracked by the base stations, but the controller is paried to a tracker dongle on the PC, instead of the internal one on the headset, like it's supposed to be. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d4MtZDOhII
regal furnace
oh jesus thats not my kind of tracking issue
for me its like a jitter of the trackers
tropic pawn
next headset will be either reverb2 or quest2, reverb much better at pc but quest can be used anywhere
regal furnace
also sometimes my feet are not at the same height, i assume its because i only have 2 BS?
sharp saddle
Weird, the G2's specs are much more modest than I originally thought.
regal furnace
the Omnicept is a concept and only for testing/businesses
languid beacon
oh jesus thats not my kind of tracking issue
@regal furnace That is the same: If I kept it still, it would jitter.
untold portal
i know this is the wrong channel but no #worlds-sdk3 i made an avitar world using the sdk 3 world build and i want to puplish for my fiends but i dont want the world to get access to them
languid beacon
bad lighthouse tracking typically will not result in jitter
regal furnace
and how do you explain the different height for my feet?
languid beacon
bad lighthouse tracking is being offset from where it should be, or rotated
Yes, one foot suddenly being higher or lower than the other is bad tracking
regal furnace
welp, guess i need a 3rd BS
languid beacon
Check shiny surfaces
regal furnace
i already covered like 99% of shiny surfaces
languid beacon
anything that would reflect a laserpointer into your eyes and still hurt
regal furnace
the only thing left thats shiny is my ceiling lamp, which i can hardly get down
languid beacon
Yeah I'm in the same situation. best you can do is tilt them down enough where the top of the scan doesn't shine directly on your ceiling fan
untold portal
might be the wrong channel but no #worlds-sdk3 i made an avitar world using the sdk 3 world build and i want to puplish for my fiends but i dont want the world to get access to them
river pagoda
Does vrchat allow æ in usernames?
languid beacon
They allow all kinds of garbage characters so I'm sure the more useable ones like æ work
No one will be able to friend you from search though
regal furnace
i cant tilt them much more down anymore
languid beacon
are they 2.0 or 1.0
regal furnace
2.0
languid beacon
yeah 3rd base station might be your best option
it can get rid of the one that reports wrong
regal furnace
well, thats gonna be expensive christmas >~<
languid beacon
better off than me, i'm stuck with 2 vive base stations. if i want a 3rd, i have to buy 3 index stations.
rough pulsar
If you can't tilt it down any further make a shade for it out of thick dark card and tape it to the top of the LH
Think something like this
https://static.bhphoto.com/images/images1000x1000/1260370130_657964.jpg
regal furnace
thats the most stupid idea that might work
viral mountain
r e v e r b
rough pulsar
If it's stupid but works it ain't stupid.
Until I recently had my room repainted I had a bunch of gloss paint regions that fucked tracking up, so I just taped a load of paper over the areas nearest the LHs and that solved that problem.
vocal shard
royal orchid
hello everyone, do you guys think a rift s is a good choice for my first vr headset mainly only gonna play vrchat
vocal shard
Rift s is decent from what I've heard. I kinda wanna get one but at the same time I still probably won't since I already have an index. You have room to use it for other games too though
I think you'd like it
broken plover
and you also need a vr capable pc to use the rift s
vocal shard
Ye
odd blaze
Had 2 Rift S, they are good for inside out , not have many issues with it, only wmr i tried that can track near face too
Doesnt eat battery like the wmr controller do
Led vs Infrared
tropic pawn
i thought rift-s was outside in
regal furnace
CV1 is outside in
sharp saddle
The only thing I don't like about Rift S is the super-thin foam used on the facial interface.
Other than that, 👍
left mural
artemus wanna join me on never have i ever
sharp saddle
No thanks.
left mural
ok
craggy fjord
which channel do i use for help with a specific problem on a 2.0 avatar
sharp saddle
vocal shard
Does anyone know any quest avatars with cool animations
river relic
So it's not letting me create an account, and I can't make a ticket because of that
any ideas?
sharp saddle
Getting any errors?
river relic
"an unkown error has occured"
sharp saddle
Hmmm... take a screenshot, blocking out personal info obviously.
azure silo
twin fractal
you have their avatar blocked
modest dagger
can s1 give me a hug i need a hug
twin fractal
not for free
modest dagger
thats prostitution
twin fractal
hugs are not sexual acts therefore it is not 
modest dagger
what u want then i just need some happyness rn
twin fractal
I'm out of hugs man, ngl
modest dagger
aight bro imma jus go to local bridge
twin fractal
go to a global bridge instead. traveling is fun
vocal shard
I just bought the oculus quest 2 and I'm inlove with it since you don't need a PC to play vrchat
twin fractal
I heard VRChat on quest 2 actually runs smoothly
vocal shard
Yes
Its super fun
I just ranked up to new user so I'm going to try and learn how to make skins
terse wyvern
does anyone know if vrchat does not allow people to use vpn while on vrchat? when i have my vpn on i couldn't connect and i didn't know why vr chat wasn't connecting but then i turned off my vpn and then i could connect
zenith axle
question! Im considering buying a VR headset but my bed takes up the majority of my room. i planned for this, i want to play games like beat saber and just stand in the limited area of my bedroom. Will a headset accomodate/recognize my bed taking up the mjority of my bedroom and "L" shaped walking space (bed in the corner)? Or will headsets normally have an issue with this? thanks guys!
tropic pawn
your bed will be under your flailing arms, it shouldnt be an issue
terse wyvern
sometimes it only works with a vpn
@pseudo basalt would you happen to know if there is any known fix for my particular issue?
jolly cove
hi
jolly cove
nobody talks to me anymore
terse wyvern
no idea, sorry
@pseudo basalt it's okay, thank you anyway!
vocal shard
nobody talks to me anymore
@jolly cove hi :)
jolly cove
hii @vocal shard
quartz thunder
um how do i say this i did not no were my friend was and i play with elevators because im into elevators and how they work and i press all buttons
and then 1 person was upset
and called me a name after that
i did not no people wood get upset
and i did not think before doing it
jolly cove
uh oh u ok?
vocal shard
will the Oculus quest 2 be able to use PC avatars in the future?
quartz thunder
seansmith is me
can i get reported for doing it im sorry i did not mean press buttons on elevator for all floors
but when someone cot me
then i stop
azure ivy
When I press builder on unity nothing happens
Is my game too big?
ruby burrow
@vocal shard Unlikely, since it still runs on Android rather than Windows, hence the formats aren't compatible.
Performance wise it could handle some, but would still struggle in busy instances unless everyone was very optimised.
vocal shard
@jolly cove hru
jolly cove
@jolly cove hru
@.+Ashy_Turtle+.#8402 good hbu?
normal finch
wintry solstice
I went onto VRchat recently and I noticed a world called Filn's avatars was gone - it was one of the first places I visited.
I'm looking around, and apparently there was some trouble with someone called mouse/subcom. Does anyone know what made Filn leave, exactly?
real oriole
Anyone know why when im in vr almost all the avatars i use are on their tippy toes D:<
vocal shard
Did you try to adjust your height
robust willow
Anyone know why when im in vr almost all the avatars i use are on their tippy toes D:<
@real oriole choose seated play and then back to standing
real oriole
i've tried both of those things.
real oriole
its like almost every avatar i use
real oriole
yeah i have no idea
golden scaffold
You probably want to mess around with your height in-app some more, but it can also happen due to some funky stuff with how your tracking was setup. That, and some avatars don't have their toe bones setup properly.
velvet stag
can someone help me, i havent played since the reaction update or whatever it is, and i cant grip things with my fingers or do gestures that my avatars used to be able to do (pull out a gun)
Im oculus also, playing on steam
golden scaffold
You probably have gestures disabled
deft girder
runic stone
is vr chat supposed to be unplayably laggy on an i5-6600?
cause it eating all of my cpu on desktop low
vocal shard
hi
regal furnace
my 7600k maxes out too in vrc
@barren sentinel tldr you are pissed because you dont have a 400$ studio mic in your headset and now you call everyone who dorsnt care about the readjusting sound a sociopath? and you are gonna report everyone who doesnt mute themself before readjusting?
sorry, but thats the most stupid thing ive seen in a long time
night current
Question. I've been playing vrchat for a while now but I'm still considered Visitor. Is there anything I have to do specifically to be New User?
regal furnace
nope, just play, make friends and dont get blocked
night current
Think it could happen by tomorrow night? o.o
regal furnace
depends on you
it took me 20h and one friend to get the perms to upload (the trust system wasnt implemented back when i started)
night current
There anyway to like check the progress?
regal furnace
not really, you just randomly get a notification that you are good to upload now
vocal shard
I need help on what laptop or tower is good to buy to only play vrchat only. I do have a mac book but I am afraid to downloadt the steam and vrchat in it because this is my work laptop
lament zinc
I have a question of which I really need help with in VRChat with my Quest 2.
While testing your Quest 2, did you notice things being a bit blurry, and in VRChat especially with the SteamVR link, was there a bit of shimmering with some objects? I had to walk over to an avatar to see it, and some panels were not readable until I walked over to it.
I was using SteamVR at VRHigh settings in launch
vocal shard
@lament zinc that's probably due to oculus link itself. When streaming the video over link cable, it runs at a lower resolution than the screens themselves. This way it reduces latency. Oculus link doesn't run directly off your gpu like other vr headsets, so it has some limitations set by oculus that steamvr can't control
lament zinc
Wow...
That's a shame because I'm not even getting 1080 usually from the look of things.
.. Well, at least they're looking into offloading some stuff to the XR2 to help with some of the issues.
vocal shard
Yeah. It likely will be improved
lament zinc
And thanks for replying Jamie! You make pretty good videos.
lament zinc
👍
As a side note, I'm surprised what a $750 laptop can do in VRChat at "high" quality
Had a stable 70-75 fps as long as I hid very poor avatars, even if my safety was at none.
vocal shard
VRChat isn't too demanding compared to some other VR games like blade and sorcery.
lament zinc
Huh.
terse coral
can someone help? im trying to use the game through SteamVR and its not letting me use the VRC menu anymore, just the steamvr menu
lament zinc
The menu that usually pops up in desktop when you press ESC in-game, right?
vocal shard
Oh dear....
lament zinc
If so..
- Did you select SteamVR controls?
- If so, press the left Y.
If you failed #1, then Google will be your friend. I really suggest using that layout due to the game's recommendation as well as the fact that all buttons can be used.
finite steppe
@barren sentinel Woah there mate, your taking things a bit too far. If you don't like something, don't use it, and don't try to drag everyone else down because you hate something.
empty yoke
Those world crashers are getting more and more annoying
real oriole
@golden scaffold I've done everything you suggested but EVERY avatar has this issue. I've readjusted my play zone and all of that stuff. I'm not sure whats going wrong. First I thought it was possibly link cable/steamvr but I have the same issues when im in the quest VRchatPort
marsh stump
For some reason LB sprint no longer works, neither does item rotation on the Microsoft controller
And it's detected as a 360 controller, it's an xb1 controller
vocal shard
does anyone know how long it takes to set up fullbody TRACKING w vive trackers and an oculus rift? My dads got a beast pc so
Once you have all the sensors and lighthouse in position and running, it only takes about a minute to sync the playspaces with a program
Good evening, cuties. how are all of you?
Uh, Im literally a Sociopath. we aren't that bad
:p
better than a pyromaniac, or a psychopath
terse coral
The menu that usually pops up in desktop when you press ESC in-game, right?
@lament zinc no
where you can change avatar, world, social
lament zinc
Refer to 1) & 2)
vocal shard
Settings, and more
terse coral
I meant the one with Avatar, Worlds, Social
lament zinc
That's the one
Though when I said that, I meant the desktop equivalent that's not VR.
vocal shard
So uh, how are you beautiful people?
lament zinc
Anyways, refer to 1) and 2) for your issue.
And fairly well! I skipped first steps for the Quest 2 and went straight to VRChat. That was fun.
vocal shard
Ah, thats cool! I wanted to get a quest 2, but sadly i dont have the expenses right now
terse coral
If so..
- Did you select SteamVR controls?
- If so, press the left Y.
@lament zinc which SteamVR controls are you referring to?
in the Steam VR Settings window?
lament zinc
If you used the SteamVR link for your VR headset, the game should've asked for your controls I think?
terse coral
it did not
terse coral
bindi?
vocal shard
Mic sensitivity can be adjusted both in game and through steamvr.
But I've never had any issue with mics being too loud. Even with people screaming, the game has a decebel cap
terse coral
i can open it without steam VR
i have it installed on my oculus also
as well as steam
vocal shard
Oh my god.. Im so sorry for you, DrBrainTickler.. if you need someone to talk to or vent to, your friend Vanilla is here for you.
terse coral
welcome to the internet i guess?
like, if you go into a game and expect random people to be nice, then you are kinda looking in the wrong place
yeah its a bit pessimistic, but thats the reality of the thing
like, you cant blame a game for people inside of it being shitty
iron cipher
Anyone wanna play a horror map
terse coral
right, well welcome to the internet random stranger
the world is a shitty place, and the internet is much worse
you either get desensitized to it, or you get overwhelmed
like what do you really expect anonymous people on the internet to actually do for you? drop what theyre doing, travel to you, and pat you on the back and tell you things will get better?
the sooner you realize that no one gives 2 shits about you, the better, dude
like, for real
and im not talking about you specifically, but people in general on the internet dont give 2 shits about each other
vocal shard
Well, that hurt me
terse coral
i think hes gone
vocal shard
Im literally wheelchair bound, born from waist down paralysis
sorry to hear
They're kinda a troll imo.
Looking for anything to start up drama
terse coral
dont worry about it m8, ignore the trolls
vocal shard
I see a lot of red messages
was that you jamie ?
No, they were from a asshole..
and i dont insult people lightly
Jamie pressed that YEET button
Anyway, they're gone now
terse coral
XD
vocal shard
Kinda sad for that
terse coral
peace o/
vocal shard
I wonder what happened in his life to be the way he is
it must have been pretty terrible
terse coral
worst come to worst i just wont use steamvr
I wonder what happened in his life to be the way he is
it must have been pretty terrible
@vocal shard nah, he was trolling, and terribly at that
like, he was grasping at straws with that
vocal shard
yeah but even then
terse coral
terrible form, lol
vocal shard
What happened in your life for you to troll people like that
terse coral
not for nothing but i troll ppl on facebook on a daily basis
for no reason other than entertainment
vocal shard
I find it hard to believe that people naturally adopt an asshole attitude
vocal shard
yeah but lightly trolling and being a total cunt to someone for no reason is very different
terse coral
well yeah, thats why i said they were a bad troll
you dont just go full blast on someone like that
vocal shard
I wouldn't even say he was a troll
just a big cretin
terse coral
that makes it obvious
if youre going to troll, it has to be slow and incremental, enough to bait them to get them agitated, but not enough to get them full blown pissed off in one move
and then you work your way up from there
inland knot
just a big gratin with extra fromage
terse coral
that dude just dropped his whole payload in one go and got yeeted for it
anyway, byeeee
vocal shard
see ya
vocal shard
how do you get your world on the Halloween playlist?
modern sand
halloween content tag on upload screen
vocal shard
Once you have all the sensors and lighthouse in position and running, it only takes about a minute to sync the playspaces with a program
@vocal shard what's a lighthouse and sensors? We already have those big traçking thingys but idk what they are rlly, I think they are the sensors
but ik not sure what a lighthouse is, can u explain?
im*
Also known as the Lighthouse tracking system are two black boxes that create a 360 degree virtual space
modern harbor
The magic boxes.
floral elbow
Anybody wanna play? I got my quest 2 today and need friends for vrchat :3
vocal shard
try #quest-general
Also known as the Lighthouse tracking system are two black boxes that create a 360 degree virtual space
@vocal shard im prettu sure we have those already but I'm not completely sure.
my breakdown has finally ceased
I also just cut my hair
its so floofy
someone just ceased existance
marsh rune
cool
vocal shard
how are you, quinn?
woeful salmon
so this counts the sixth time that ive had a unity crash with vrchat
in the week
so is there ANY plans to fix this?
happens when ever 2 people change models at the same time and so far when ive been sitting in a movie world just watching one movie weve had to pause it now twice cause of this issue. this is ridiculus.
this is now the 7th time this has happened.
i get this is at 5 in the morning but as im currently seeing it. there are 4 who are online and 4 who are away and one whos dnd. any responce would be nice. any FEEDBACK would be lovely. ive been putting up with these crashes since the last ddos attack and when yall put the update through.
vocal shard
did you open a canny for it ?
fringe peak
doot doot
loud garden
Hey my ssd seems to be getting flooded i think it could be due to vrchat worlds and such. i do have it on my hardrive so im unsure where it could be installing anyone know a solution?
vocal shard
probably in your cache
loud garden
where would that be?
@vocal shard
it shows in vrchat i am currently using 15.87 GB of cache
but im unsure where that is installed
vocal shard
C:\Users%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat
vocal shard
with symlinks yeah
loud garden
is it as simple as cut and paste?
vocal shard
no
fresh kestrel
Does anyone know if vive cosmos elite is good? Hows the screen door effect, tracking, comfort.
loud garden
how would you be able to move it then?
vocal shard
Google how to create a symlink
umbral reef
@loud garden also a way to do it just for vrc and not windows. So google the stuff for vrc specifically as that works best then
placid pilot
haii i jsut got my quest 2 and i wanna give people hugs and pats. anyone wanna play with me?
if so shoot me a dm :>
vocal shard
Eeeh I would but I’m not home and unfortunately I don’t have the mobility of the quest I have a index
cerulean folio
index can be mobile if ur brave enough
merry surge
Just 2 days.
midnight arrow
until?
vocal shard
until week end
carmine geyser
Hiii
vocal shard
hi
carmine geyser
How are you
cold talon
Sveeel, how's the model going?
midnight arrow
I used to be a pro at making models
cold talon
Used to be? How so?
midnight arrow
I stopped playing lately
torn cairn
Hey so I didn't know what channel this goes in, but I'm using oculus link and my quest to play steam vrchat, however the game thinks I'm using index controllers and I have to click the thumbsticks in to move or turn, it's really confusing
tropic pawn
do oculus provide any sort of emulator to run quest games on rift?
vocal shard
It's going great bahka actually
I'm still at work so i didnt have time to do anything 👌
torn cairn
Can anyone help me please?
vocal shard
it would be easier to help you if you stated your issue properly
people would also be more inclined to help
unborn hollow
hello
regal furnace
👋
unborn hollow
im just gonna changed my name to my steam name
rocky blaze
can there be a focus on a fix for the stuck at 100% bug please
twin fractal
probably the next thing that's going to be fixed. it hasn't been around for long
cold talon
It better be great svel
vocal shard
you'll be so disappointed
cold talon
Wdym, I know your models are great
lapis saffron
lol
cold talon
And can't be more disappointed than I currently am, reached the maximum integer value
So all gonna be ok, at worst it stays the same 
full sinew
hello
full sinew
its afternoon for me but morning @cold talon
vocal shard
my models ? I never made any model from scratch lmao
vocal shard
Svel do you commissions
cold talon
Yeah, svel does some very nice commissions
vocal shard
How much
cold talon
Depends on what you want
vocal shard
I’m deadass willing to pay about 100-200 dollars for a quality ger avatar
cold talon
For the one in my pfp I paid 80$, but also tipped 15$
vocal shard
95 for a avatar
Man I need to get into avatar making
Idk even know where to start
by buying a pack of tissues
and pillows
fair enough
you are to cry, scream and punch your pillows a lot
cold talon
Really depends what level you are on rn with general blender stuff
vocal shard
Is vrchat avatar making like finding a fbx obj dae etc file and just uploading it
It's super easy and streamlined thanks to an addon called cats
I know blender pretty well actually
you press a few buttons and it will do most of the work for you
What engine does vrchat use?
dim galleon
Unity
vocal shard
Oh I used to make shaders for unity
specifically, it's using version 2018.4.20f1 of unity
rough pulsar
If you're familiar with blender and unity (and it's humanoid character system) you likely won't even need to touch cats
dim galleon
Quest can only handle the basic shaders given with the SDK
vocal shard
I’m assuming vrc prob has its own sdk somewhere
yes
I have like 4 years experience in unity/blender is that enough
rough pulsar
VRC's SDK handles VRC specific stuff, like viewpoint position, what shape keys are what visemes, some animation stuff, etc. A lot of the other stuff is just regular Unity components.
Oh you'll be fine
cold talon
Wow gallium, why would you not touch cats? You have to pet them, it is law
rough pulsar
Regular cats, the ones with 4 legs, yowl for food and can invert themselves around thr w axis, yeah they're great.
The blender addon with the same name, limited use if you already know how to use blender.
cold talon
Dunno man, still kinda like my apply pose as rest pose
cold talon
And the remove unused garbago
vocal shard
It’s a pain in the ass
rough pulsar
Surprisingly rarely needed. Just posing the avatar into T-Pose before export is what's needed 90% of the time.
vocal shard
I tried rigging a juggernog machine for a game I made and it didn’t work
I was going to have a playable juggernog machine
rough pulsar
Which is very difficult with CATS because it CLEARS YOUR FUCKING POSE when you use it's enter/exit pose mode buttons because fucking why
cold talon
Oh yeah, that I never understood why
vocal shard
So I’m assuming that people do the screen shake affects by animating shaders in unity?
rough pulsar
Sadly, yeah.
cold talon
You just have to go in pose mode manually and than you can apply it without cats yeeting all your work
Good times
rough pulsar
Or just don't use CATS and learn how to use blender properly
vocal shard
Animating shaders is easy af I think anyone could do it
cold talon
A lot of those types of shaders already come with function generators inside them, so they don't even have to animate to shake your screen
rough pulsar
Shaders are fuckin' great. I'm having to fill in a bunch of large gaps in my math knowledge since I got into making them and it's loads of fun.
rough pulsar
I think the two shaders I've made I'm happiest with are my skin and hair shaders.
still lark
Blender shaders or Unity shaders?
rough pulsar
For me, both.
vocal shard
He ll o
Blender for me is really just rigging models and making sure they are a ok to go to unity
Yeah
And maybe file conversions
rough pulsar
When you know enough python to be dangerous blender can suddenly do a lot of cool shit
still lark
It's a shame blender's python is kinda funky
vocal shard
I’m a C++ and C# person
rough pulsar
Kind of a bit and also not and yeah
Better that than some weird new language that doesn't resemble anything that makes sense
vocal shard
I’m gonna use my juggernog model and make a vrchat avatar out of it
rough pulsar
I knew a bit of python before I looked into blender's python api and I haven't stumbled upon anything particularly nasty yet.
still lark
those are wild
vocal shard
Add some neat effects maybe
torn cairn
Hey so I'm using a quest and a pc to play vrchat and I can't walk or turn unless I hold the thumbsticks in
placid badge
im new to vrchat and i need help
torn cairn
The game assumes I'm using vive controllers, that could be why I'm having this issue
placid badge
can someone help me plz
true bough
same pls help
me
so im using oculus link and i cant get my mic to work
how would i get it to work
????
vocal shard
Your windows settings
true bough
ok
vocal shard
Control pannel>devices and sound>sound
Than choose your playback
Then click on mic then choose your mic
true bough
ok
placid badge
so i cant see peoples
vocal shard
Do you have a good pc?
torn cairn
Anyone have any help wihh the issue I'm having?
true bough
yes
vocal shard
Ok
true bough
i can run boneworks
vocal shard
Go to trust settings
placid badge
im quest 2
vocal shard
Dang
torn cairn
so I'm using a quest and a pc to play vrchat and I can't walk or turn unless I hold the thumbsticks in
placid badge
@vocal shard i says pert blocked on there chest
vocal shard
Yeti
placid badge
ya
vocal shard
That’s probably your age settings
And @true bough you need to change your trust settings
true bough
@vocal shard wheres trust setting's???
true bough
ohh in game???
true bough
yeah i can hear other's but they can't hear me
and when i press on hear device i cant hear anything
my vr is plugged in and stuff
placid badge
@vocal shard how do i change so its higher
vocal shard
torn cairn
When you guys move around the world do you hold the thumbstick in
vocal shard
Nope
true bough
no u dont need to
torn cairn
Anyway I can fix that, Im using quest controllers and I have to do that
true bough
im just sad my mic wont work on any game
vocal shard
Make sure you have the right movement settings @torn cairn
true bough
@torn cairn how do i get my quest mic to work???
true bough
ok
vocal shard
Becuase that’s in windows lol
torn cairn
Bruh imagine being able to afford an index, I barely scraped enough for my quest
true bough
i have windows
vocal shard
I have full body too
torn cairn
Damn
true bough
im on a link cable
true bough
ok
vocal shard
I’m saying that oculus poorly designed the controllers
They should have used the original rift design
It is more functional
And more at ease of use
twin fractal
the original rift is better by a tiny margin
vocal shard
The controllers are
twin fractal
Oculus controllers in general are just good
vocal shard
Yeah I like knuckles better tho
twin fractal
I haven't gotten mine yet
vocal shard
I think the rift s/quest controllers suck
What headset do you have
I’ve got index and full body via vive trackers
The quest 2 redesigned the controllers to be like the cv1 again
Yeah
I don’t like it
twin fractal
a quest and a odyssey+ rn
vocal shard
And tbh I didn't mind the rift s controllers either. But cv1 did feel the best
Your gonna try to use knuckles on a quest??
Your gonna need some software for that
The rift s controllers still felt more comfortable than my index controllers if I'm honest
twin fractal
on the odyssey+. I already have full body so I know how to do it lol
vocal shard
Yeah
There was this girl earlier who was tryna use full body on a oculus headset
Had the base stations and everything right?
I told her the spacing between companies is different so you will need software
So we went back and forth and she was being rude about it
twin fractal
yeah you need openvr space calibrator or something similar
vocal shard
And she said her software was OVR
You can’t do it in OVR
Lol you need somthing else
Thrillseeker has a tut
vocal shard
She tryed to say it was and I politely told her your gonna need other software
And she was arguing so I was like
listen bitch. It’s not working have fun being stuck in half body bye bye
And there was another dude who said the same thing
It wasn’t she didn’t understand she was being an asshole about it
twin fractal
lol. I'm thinking of going G2 with index controllers but honestly quest wireless setup was lit so I might go quest 2
vocal shard
Get an index
144hz
And an lcd screen with a high resolution and less screen door
Omg it’s so awesome
It’s way more comfortable than the quest aswell
twin fractal
I was going for index until G2 got announced
vocal shard
The facial interface is so good
G2 isn’t gonna be as good as the index is it?
G2 is much higher resolution than index
twin fractal
higher resolution and overall better display
twin fractal
in my mind at least, if I'm using the index controllers anyway, then G2 would be overall better
120hz
vocal shard
How much is it
twin fractal
there's comparisons on YouTube, but yeah index wins in Hz but loses everywhere else
vocal shard
It looks like it’s not as comfortable
Is it a lot better than the index
Or just a little
twin fractal
$600. Noticeably better for sure. especially in clarity
magic sphinx
anyone wanna play vr chat scary game?
vocal shard
Clarity of the screen?
magic sphinx
anyone?
twin fractal
it's 2160 x 2160 vs the index 1600x1440 @vocal shard
has the same speakers as the index too
vocal shard
So it’s gonna be better than the index
It’s only 90hz
I think the index is about the same
It dosent look as comfortable eaither
twin fractal
yeah biggest downside is it's inside-out tracking and not base station tracking. but if I replace the controllers that come with it with index controllers im good
twin fractal
yeah index is good if you already have one I don't think you should get the G2 unless you're collecting headsets
vocal shard
Lol
twin fractal
I'll probably end up getting both knowing me anyway lol
vocal shard
Get the index first
You won’t want another headset
It’s like putting on a silk mask
twin fractal
idkm I feel like index 2 might show up in the future
vocal shard
Can you use the G2 on the go?
If the index 2 comes out I’m going to get it
And the new controllers
I love my v1
twin fractal
both new headsets (G2 and quest) have higher res so if valve releases a new one it will definitely have equal or higher res to those
vocal shard
If there’s a v2 that would be crazy
Yeah
Rn I think the index is still
The best consumer vr headset
Even with the G2
It easily destroyes the quest 2 and rift s
And the G2 tbh
With tracking
Controllers so on
twin fractal
it's good all around yeah
vocal shard
If you have a quest you need to get the index bru
It’s amazing I went from a rift 1 to the index
umbral reef
Small price jump though 👀
vocal shard
It’s one of the best purchases you will make
@umbral reef the headset is the same price??
Without base stations and controllers
If you get the bundle yes
But most ppl already have base stations
@twin fractal what base stations do you have
1.0 or 2.0
umbral reef
Most people do not have the base stations or controlers
not sure what your smoking
vocal shard
Yeah
umbral reef
The old oculus had a bigger marketshare then the vive
So most people have to buy the full bundel
vagrant sandal
hi
vocal shard
Yeah but pretty much everybody I know with an oculus still has base stations lmao
umbral reef
What makes it heaps more expensive if your budget RN is set for an quest (or quest 2)
vocal shard
They either have knuckles or full body
umbral reef
Those are what you call powerusers.
People who got nothing else in there life beside playing VRC pretty much.
vocal shard
Since were talking about rain
Dain
Why does it matter do you just like to argue
He already has base stations he stated that
vagrant sandal
what vr do you guys use
vagrant sandal
so vive is better than oculus
vocal shard
Not really
devout spoke
Hii
vocal shard
Valve and hp G2 are tho
vagrant sandal
ahhh ok
vagrant sandal
i already have it
vocal shard
Dang that’s a rip
vagrant sandal
ripp
vocal shard
It’s gonna be the same thing and kick it’s ass
vagrant sandal
LOL
umbral reef
You plan to use it linked to an PC ceman?
devout spoke
Pls say hello anyone 😭
devout spoke
Ich just want to be noticed
vagrant sandal
You plan to use it linked to an PC ceman?
@umbral reef Yeah but i gotta buy a new laptop/pc because my current laptop dosen't have a graphics card so
umbral reef
Ah, well when you do really look into streaming content from PC to the quest instead of using the link cable.
I heard a lot more positive news when someone does that compared to the cable jazz
vagrant sandal
i bought a 10 foot cord so I could play games like dont hate me Roblox VR and Minecraft VR
vocal shard
Mincreaft vr isn’t a thing lol
vagrant sandal
on amazon for 19 bucks and free 1 day shipping
umbral reef
It is...
vocal shard
It’s just TTT
vagrant sandal
Minecraft vr is a thing
vocal shard
LOL
umbral reef
There is an mod for it thats properly supported and official version even
vocal shard
Oof
vagrant sandal
u gotta do like 20 steps to do mc vr
vocal shard
Not on steam
umbral reef
IMO the mod functions better even.
You can even play with other mods on some versions
vocal shard
I know I was talking about on steam
vagrant sandal
ohhh
umbral reef
Normal minecraft also aint on steam so 👀
vocal shard
Yeah I know
vagrant sandal
ri[
vocal shard
I’ve had its since 2009
vagrant sandal
i thought quest 2 was like the best vr headset lmao
vagrant sandal
i did but now im realizing lol
vocal shard
Quest 2 has 90 hz and my index has 144hz
vagrant sandal
jesus christ the index is expensive
vocal shard
Don’t worry man.
vagrant sandal
worth it?
vocal shard
The quest has its own pros
vagrant sandal
is the index worth it
vocal shard
Yeah I would pay 3 thousand for just the headset
vagrant sandal
cause if so ill return the quest 2 and buy a index
vagrant sandal
ahhh ok
vocal shard
To run the frames and graphics
vagrant sandal
ill stick with quest 2
umbral reef
Quest 2 isnt a bad headset, just has some noticeable drawbacks like being forced to use an facebook account for the store.
And them banning people for using fake facebook accounts for example.
Its not a bad headset but the not needing a PC makes it still good no matter what. As there is nothing alike.
vocal shard
Yeah it’s better for you
vagrant sandal
works good for me
vocal shard
@umbral reef yeah
vagrant sandal
Quest 2 isnt a bad headset, just has some noticeable drawbacks like being forced to use an facebook account for the store.
And them banning people for using fake facebook accounts for example.Its not a bad headset but the not needing a PC makes it still good no matter what. As there is nothing alike.
@umbral reef Bruh that facebook thing took me like 2 hours like wth
vocal shard
Thrill made a vid on that
static flax
Imagine thinking the index is better then the quest 2
Index is good in it's own ways, but actually has the worst resolution between it, g2 and quest 2
vocal shard
@umbral reef if you don’t use your real name they can ban it to
@static flax the G2 sucks
umbral reef
Direct resolution isnt the only metric though squiz
static flax
No no I know, but the quest 2 is actually really good as a headset still
vocal shard
Yeah
vocal shard
If you don’t have a good pc
vagrant sandal
I hate the facebook thing on the quest