vrchat-general-2

[sterile ingot]

You could eat the passive aggressiveness with a spoon.

[vocal shard]

u.u

I'm probably not gonna put much heart into making one tbh until smthn is done

[sterile ingot]

Does that somehow make the behavior acceptable? I always considered bad behavior bad behavior.

[pearl rune]

I can understand the whole "I made this it's mine I don't want anyone else to have this" but at the same time, when people see it who can't model for shit want it so badly

[void cipher]

NO P0MeGrAnEtEs

[vocal shard]

Doesn't make it right to steal it

[void cipher]

https://listenonrepeat.com/?v=TZD_Xb43gt8&s=42&e=93#No_Pomegranates_[Trap_Remix]

[vocal shard]

Doesn't matter if they can't model, stealing is shitty and wrong.

Nothing justifies it

[pearl rune]

I'm aware, there's also the crummy "I like this skin I'll take it and claim it as mine" That's the stealing

[vocal shard]

Taking it without permission in the first place is stealing

If i let you clone it then thats fine, but if you come alone and just rip it from my hands, thats fucked.

[pearl rune]

Because I'm trying to play both sides here of "I want to try to settle this on equal ground before someone gets really really annoyed"

[vocal shard]

Hah

[pearl rune]

Yeah, we're all aware of it

[paper cloak]

Green if you want to bring it to the devs' attention, send in a mod ticket with the screenshot, don't just post it publicly for more people to go download. That's the problem.

then why are you posting here? They'll see the ticket...

[vocal shard]

xD

[pearl rune]

🍪

There's your cookie. You satisfied?

[sterile ingot]

I don't bother filling out tickets. I just hit the report button and continue on my merry way. Filling out tickets is work, and I don't work for free.

[vocal shard]

o3o

I doubt that, but we get what you mean

[pearl rune]

And I'm pretty sure they're doing their best they can, again this isn't easy

[vocal shard]

u.u

From what I hear they dont respond or do much to many tickets they get tbh

[paper cloak]

Brigading "hundreds" of people into spamming tickets doesn't make issues easier to fix.

[pearl rune]

It simply annoys them further

[sterile ingot]

Just more whinging.

[pearl rune]

Dude, calm yourself

[paper cloak]

You are genuinely dense and I'm no longer going to interact with you. Good night.

[vestal imp]

nobody ever listens. "you can't talk about that" or "that's banned" if I'm not allowed to bring an issue to them, then what's the point?
proceeds to rant for 1 hour and not get banned

[sterile ingot]

Seriously

[pearl rune]

Who says you're getting blocked? Nobody's getting blocked unless they've asked for it 🤷‍♂️ Idfk what's this whole thing about someone getting blocked for a particular issue, unless you've decided to rant and cause a massive issue in a public channel that gets some people's attention and now the moderators have to deal with it by sitting back and determine what to do next.

[sterile ingot]

How about them dolphins?

[pearl rune]

I mean, you brought it out here, made it a public issue and moping and groaning and bitching about actually just simply can't get you nowhere 🤷‍♂️

[sterile ingot]

Do you suppose dolphins would take over the Earth if they had fricken laser beams attached to their heads?

[pearl rune]

Did you know pigeons used to be smart rockets?

[sterile ingot]

In the game Worms

[pearl rune]

They were actually used as Smart Rockets

[sterile ingot]

How big of an explosion do you get off a pigeon?

[modern harbor]

No, but Octopi would.

[vestal imp]

Did you know pigeons used to be smart rockets?
i saw it once a long time ago

[sterile ingot]

Do you need to worry about beak shrapnel?

[pearl rune]

It depends on the explosive type that they used for them

The rocket would launch and this pigeon that's in it picks at the little target things to help guide the rocket they're flying in

[vestal imp]

thats such a mad scientist thing to think, attach explosives to animals

[pearl rune]

MW3 Explosive dogs

[sterile ingot]

Wait, so it's not the pigeon that's even physically flying? It's in the rocket cockpit, so to speak?

Brilliant, what could go wrong? 😛

[pearl rune]

Yeah, well. The pigeon blowing up with it of course

[sterile ingot]

How come there is no tombstone emoticon? This is a tragedy 🎭

[deft trellis]

game is so laggy even in desktop, my safety settings is still broken turning everyone off, its become literally unplayable

[lost shuttle]

your computer is probably doo do

try upgrading

whats your gpu

how much Ram do you have

[deft trellis]

i have a gtx 1080 super

it never was the laggy yesterday

[void cipher]

isnt laggy for me with a RTX 2060

[lost shuttle]

RTX 2070 SUPER

is what you mean

[void cipher]

huh?

[deft trellis]

yeah rtx i mean

[lost shuttle]

the 1080 super isnt a thing

[deft trellis]

it shouldn't be this laggy

[lost shuttle]

yeah

[void cipher]

lol my games not laggy on a lower card

[deft trellis]

it suddenly became a huge lag fest and breaking my safety settings too

[lost shuttle]

how many gigs of ram do you have

[devout island]

Reinstall the game

[void cipher]

RTX 2060 vs 2070 super

[sterile ingot]

Is your video drivers up to date?

[deft trellis]

reinstalled, updated drivers, tried everything

[sterile ingot]

Gotta be the patch then.

[void cipher]

16 gb 4 mine

[lost shuttle]

reinstalled, updated drivers, tried everything
@deft trellis HOW MANY GODDAMN GIGS OF RAM

[deft trellis]

32 gig

[lost shuttle]

you should have no problem does it happen for other games

[void cipher]

lol no wonder ur called hostile midget

[deft trellis]

no i can run everything else max settings

[lost shuttle]

try running a speedtest

[deft trellis]

its the game

[lost shuttle]

its the game
@deft trellis what was the last app you installed i had a similar problem with an app called update notifier which makes everthing laggy

[sudden dagger]

Is anyone else having problems loading in avatars?

[lost shuttle]

no

whats the prob is it laggy

[sudden dagger]

No, my avatars just will not load at all

[deft trellis]

razer synapse

[lost shuttle]

razer can have a problem

try uninstalling

[sudden dagger]

Nvm i restarted and its fine

[deft trellis]

how does razer effect it?

[lost shuttle]

i dont know but some apps just have that effect with certain apps

[tribal widget]

Does anyone know how many avatars can be in the same world at the same time?

[deft trellis]

uninstalling razer didn't do anything

[vestal imp]

as many as the world lets?

[deft trellis]

its the game thats broken, gg

[vestal imp]

thats kinda the obvious answer

[sterile ingot]

I mean, there was a patch that dropped recently.

[tribal widget]

So if I set it to 500, then it can host 500 avatars?

[vestal imp]

i dont think you can set it to 500

[sterile ingot]

So the proper limit depends upon the graphical demands of the world. How big is it, what kind of textures is it using, what kind of shading, etc etc

What you find though I think is to make a really optimized room it tends to be a bit small, so 500 won't really work.

[tribal widget]

I'm just asking for a practical number as an upper limit. I would guess about 50, but I would hope for more.

[sterile ingot]

Nope, more like 20 at the most.

[tribal widget]

I've seen places with more than 20

[sterile ingot]

Like The Box

Which is just a big square room with no textures.

Or I guess a really really simple texture.

[heady salmon]

The most I've seen at a time in a world was probably close to 100 maybe.

they were not all in one spot together tho.

[vocal shard]

i dont have that one HTTPCache-WindowsPlayer folder anymore. is it needed?

[open fjord]

whats attractive about a gamer girl from a boy perspective and what signs do boys make when they like a gamer girl (for a article)

[modern harbor]

🤔

[heady salmon]

why would you want to write an article about that? lol

[vestal imp]

the answer is in your own question

and boys ask for puddle and bob

[modern harbor]

[sterile ingot]

Where are the simps when you need them?

[vestal imp]

simping?

they aint have time for articles and shit

btw petition to have gender roles, so people can simp with better accuracy plz vote

[modern harbor]

Lmao.

[vocal shard]

🐱

[worthy violet]

[empty shuttle]

[dense lotus]

hey is anyone else having trouble getting into the game? i can't tell if its the servers or something about my computer

it cleared itself up, looks like its running fine now

[raven venture]

I became a blue name today~ For anyone curious I first played late night the 29'th and I got it later night 31'st so about 50~ ish hours at about 16, 17 hours of play time.

Maybe... 6 friends? 5?

I'll be glad when I'm a green name then people won't cull me for lag as often.

Is sad when you're sacrificed to a lag cull

[empty shuttle]

I still haven’t played yet, I don’t really know where to start

[raven venture]

I just randomly clicked on worlds.

Well first I put in some keywords and browsed avatar worlds.

There are a butt load of free avatars

[vestal imp]

maybe i'll hop in vrchat

[raven venture]

As a visitor people will sometimes just randomly block you for no reason though, just to clear lag or noise.

[vestal imp]

spent my whole day doin homework shit

"_> "

[empty shuttle]

Ah that’s right the game can be a bit buggy with that, but the random blocks must be annoying

And that’s gonna be me tomorrow, I have stat work to do

[raven venture]

Its not super often I think only 3 people have.

[empty shuttle]

That’s good to hear at least, I tried getting in one of the worlds but had to get off immediately so I basically have done nothing

[vocal shard]

I personally don't block anyone
but unfortunately for you, from my own experience, most of the obnoxious players (be it from mic spam or avatar bullshit) are in the visitor rank

[empty shuttle]

So you might end up getting blocked entirely due to the visitor rank?

[vocal shard]

yes

[empty shuttle]

By some players who assume you would be annoying?

[vestal imp]

that usually doesnt happen tho

never happened to me

[empty shuttle]

That just seems like a wrong place wrong time kind of thing depending on the type of people on each workd

*world

[vestal imp]

i usually join shrine temple

theres usually some cool people

and eastern duds

[vocal shard]

they use the performance system most of the time to block everything from visitor

as a visitor, people can only hear you, sometimes see your avatar but everything else is blocked
so no special shaders and no animations

[empty shuttle]

Ooooo okay I get it now, I think, again I’m still new with this 😂

[raven venture]

IDK id this is true, but I've heard hearsay that having a VRchat account ranks you up faster than logging in with your steam username.

[vestal imp]

maybe it is?

i got blue name in like 2 days

[vocal shard]

it rank you up slightly faster
at least it seems so since we have no official confirmation

[heady salmon]

that would explain it. I wasnt able to use my steam so I had to make an account. also got to new user after only a few days.

[vocal shard]

but it's better to have a vrchat account anyway
you'll need one if you want to upload avatars or worlds

[empty shuttle]

I also made an account directly because I felt it would be slightly easier than having to walk across the room and get my steam into

*info

[lapis ether]

Ummm

Is it that someone uses mod to make avatar speed insanely fast?

[heady salmon]

how fast you mean? cause smaller ones are faster than bigger ones from what Ive seen.

[vocal shard]

they all have the same speed

there are some tricks you can use to be faster but that require some setup in unity before you upload your avatar
most people probably use a modded client tho

[empty shuttle]

Hehe if only I understood this complex stuff

[heady salmon]

I imagine that that would be even more complicated than making avatars is. also doesnt a loading screen tip say not to do that?

[broken plover]

yes. modded clients will get you banned

[vocal shard]

since when do people follow rules ?

[empty shuttle]

Phft rules are for

Are for

Uh...dummy heads

[signal gazelle]

kon makers don't follow rules

[raven venture]

Oh! And a very helpful tip. The fucking obnoxious screen effects are 'shader effects' or something like that

I turned them off for all but trusted, then another obnoxious one happened and I turned them off entirely.

So if you're looking for that setting to block, thats what it is

[signal gazelle]

Wish the game ran on GPU more than CPU?

[raven venture]

No, its a thing that lets certain avatars do shit to your screen

Like blacken it, stretch and pan it... I shut it all off. Offensive avatars, mic spam, whatever. Fucking with my litteral game display is a no go.

[broken plover]

In vr mode it uses more GPU because it has to render 90 high resolution frames twice

[cold horizon]

why are left/right and regular/light grab all set to different index grip thresholds in steamvr lol

on the default bindings

[finite steppe]

So if you're looking for that setting to block, thats what it is
@raven venture Some people have figured out that custom animations can be used to bypass the shader blocking for those effects. You'll have to turn them off as well.

[lapis ether]

Getting these cancer open menu frame drop

[grim tusk]

[steep laurel]

omfg.

How do i get my jump back? its gonep

[sudden obsidian]

Bruh

[broken plover]

if youre on oculus/index check the new bindings menu in the vrc settings. If youre on vive you probably don't use the default steamvr bindings for vrc. Switch back to the default bindings

[lapis ether]

NOOOO Vrchat

[past night]

https://youtu.be/vFBrsB54nV8

[ripe pelican]

I have no idea where to put this... But how do you go about someone harrassing you on multiple accounts? Ex: being called names and being told to end your life

[rough pulsar]

@ripe pelican Have a read of #moderation-reports for information on how to send a report in.

[ripe pelican]

@rough pulsar thanks

[sonic kayak]

any news on how vrchat is gonna implement hand gestures with the reverb g2 controllers?

[small bluff]

can someone make me a vrchat account, it really doesnt want me to fucking play because I can't verify my date if birth and I cannot create a regular VR chat account because of ´stupid shit

[crisp vine]

Use your steam account?

[small bluff]

Doesnt let me verify my Date of Birth

[rough pulsar]

There was (still is?) a bug where one kind of date format would fail to verify, so if you're using the american date format (mm/dd/yyyy) try using the normal format (dd/mm/yyyy), or the other way round.
If that doesn't work I got no clue 🤷

[small bluff]

I mean doesnt work to swap it around

[vocal shard]

#vrchat-support

[regal furnace]

gotta ask real quck: anyone has this avatar: https://booth.pm/en/items/1484117
How does the skirt work exactly? Is it actually colliding with the legs or is it clipping through?

[vocal shard]

if it's using dyn bones without any proper weightpaint setup, most likely clipping

[regal furnace]

because i have seen avatars with perfectly colliding legs before

i dont wanna spend money on something where im not even sure if it works as expected

[vocal shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u1NBstIcy8 probably did this

[regal furnace]

i saw the avatar exactly once, and the guy didnt even add dynamic bones to the model (everything was stiff)

[vocal shard]

either pure weight paint

or he used cloth component with super stiff settings

[regal furnace]

well, storepage says something about dynamic bones

google translate is not really good at translating from japanese to anything else

[vocal shard]

systran has an accurate translation but still a little bit wrong

[left cove]

Can you play pavlov on pc without a vr headset?

[broken plover]

no. its basically csgo and gmod in vr so play those instead

[left cove]

Oh ok

But like i thought you can play pavlov without even getting csgo

[regal furnace]

pavlov and csgo are 2 different games

[broken plover]

pavlov is its own game, but its basically csgo in vr

[cerulean plover]

Who on quest

[thick elbow]

Oculus Quest? Me.

[blazing lion]

Vrchat keeps timing out and closing

[warm hornet]

Thinking of getting a rift s can i play vrchat sitting down I can not stand to long because of heath reasons and dose it look ok

[vocal shard]

Yeah, rift S has full roomscale. Vrchat has a seated mode as well, so if you're sitting down irl, you can press that and it will move your avatar back up as if you're standing

[warm hornet]

so i will be standing in game and look normal

[vocal shard]

Yeah

Lots of people play sitting down as well. So a number of games have seated modes and height adjustments for that

[warm hornet]

that's good to know i play without a headset right now getting use to it

[vocal shard]

[calm steppe]

ahhhhh

[warm hornet]

I still have a really hard time talking in game heh

[vocal shard]

It can definitely be nerve wracking. I didn't talk for months

[warm hornet]

@vocal shard Thank you for your help

[vocal shard]

No problem ^-^

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/698629939284672512/750362579045580881/SmartSelect_20200901-073118_Reddit.jpg

[gloomy isle]

^ lol when i see a brush im like oh no

[hardy raven]

baby brush is such a cute avatar but i feel like i can’t use it bc of the connotations,,,,

[vestal imp]

[regal furnace]

[gleaming anvil]

Hi horny, I'm dad

[vocal shard]

Panda 2d2b add me I need cuddle buddies 🥺

[copper apex]

If I want to unlink my VRChat account with my steam, so I can just sign in with my steam (that way I can change my name whenever I want without wasting the 90 days), will it reset my user rank?

[ruby needle]

To my knowledge, linking is permanent.

[copper apex]

Hmmm shoot. I just want to change my name. I can’t wait another 80 days

@ruby needle what if I delete my account? Can I still sign in with steam and keep my user rank?

[vocal shard]

merging the account is permanent
meaning if you delete it, you start from scratch

[copper apex]

Fudge.

[stoic halo]

im trying to find a model i think is from the VKET worlds

its the blue harpy girl, ive been recently trying to find it but i dont even know the name of the model so i cant find it on booth or anything

[regal furnace]

probably on booth.pm

gimme a sec, i think i know where exactly

[stoic halo]

I don't know the name that's my problem

so i cant find it anywhere, ive tried multiple searches with no success

itd be a blessing if you did find it

[regal furnace]

https://booth.pm/en/items/1551159 was it this one?

[stoic halo]

blesssss

[regal furnace]

and i still need to find someone who has this one: https://booth.pm/en/items/1484117

[vocal shard]

Why is loading taking forever

I can’t go anymore back home or to worlds ;c

Is ma first time

[vestal imp]

if it is taking forever

you may aswell alt f4 and restart the game

[raven venture]

Is tafi avatar creator safe?

[agile spoke]

does anyone know the world with kromia's avatars?

[languid beacon]

and i still need to find someone who has this one: https://booth.pm/en/items/1484117
@regal furnace that is a paid model you can clearly see that in the link you sent. Do not ask for free copies of paid content. It’s against the rules here.

[regal furnace]

i didnt, i wanted to ask how the skirt works

[languid beacon]

Ah ok my b

[regal furnace]

i never even once said i want to copy it from someone else

[languid beacon]

Looked bad out of context

[regal furnace]

i have a few friends who make models and sell them on booth, and i know how much work it is to make one

[languid beacon]

Is tafi avatar creator safe?
@raven venture yes. It’s got official support from VRC

Just be aware there’s currently no way to delete them. DX

I’ve got five duplicates of them sitting in my uploads lol

[harsh falcon]

hello guys i'm new here nd idk why i can't send anything 2 ppl

[vestal imp]

wdym

[rapid dew]

hi everyone 🙂

[vocal shard]

i just uploaded a world but its not showing up in my stuf - but unity said it laoded my friend tried uploading a avi and it didnt show his anyone know whts going on

[broken plover]

make sure you used the correct unity version. 2018.4.20f1

[vocal shard]

i is ):

its weird idk

[vocal shard]

Hey if anyone can make me a avatar for free with epic animations dm me

[regal furnace]

haha, good luck
custom avatars go from 200 (very low end, just the basics) to around 2000 (very good model, nice features)

these "epic animations" are not cool. Its not cool to nearly crash the enitre room, its not cool to have shitty rap music at full volume, its just generic and unfunny. You most likely get blocked anyway

[raw pine]

Literally 100%

[rocky agate]

You guys ever just get crashed?

[vocal shard]

never
I crash everyone in the room before they get any occasion to crash me

Checkmate, crashers 😎

[broken plover]

my slow internet saves me from crash avatars. Before the avatar loads I lagged out twice already

[regal furnace]

steamvr crashes me before crashers can

[vocal shard]

does anyone got a avatar with epic animations that i can have

[broken plover]

no

[grim tusk]

N

[left ginkgo]

My game crashes every 10 mins

[dusk nymph]

does any know the flying mod

for pc

does anyone know the fly mod for pc

[vestal imp]

i dont think anyone will thrive to help you, unless it is a simple question

[regal furnace]

@dusk nymph its called Box Collider and its extremely janky
@vocal shard if you stop spamming and actually explain your problem, maybe someone will help you

[dusk nymph]

thanks

also do you know where to get it @regal furnace

[regal furnace]

click your model in unity -> add component -> Box Collider

[dusk nymph]

thanks

[vestal imp]

arsenal problem is probably how to rank up from nuisance rank

[regal furnace]

sounds like it

[vestal imp]

😂

[ebon hazel]

Yup

[vocal shard]

does anyone got an avatar with epic animations i can have dm me

[regal furnace]

no, no one uses them because you would just get blocked

at least no sane person would

[broken plover]

no you don't

[regal furnace]

with what? you just spam and dont even respond to my messages

[broken plover]

If you really would you would properly ask for help and not spam

[regal furnace]

i already asked you whats so important that you spam the whole channel?

[ebon hazel]

Good

[deft girder]

That's how it's supposed to be 😂

[regal furnace]

of course not, its not a self promotion channel

create an alt and invite yourself there

[uneven rock]

Discord accounts are free

[broken plover]

open your browser and go to discord on there and make an alt account

[regal furnace]

im sure no one would actually join it this way

use 10minutemail or something

[uneven rock]

Use a burner email like 10minutemail

[broken plover]

then use one of your 3 accounts

[regal furnace]

i wonder why

[ebon hazel]

Bruh I have like, 7 Gmail accounts

[uneven rock]

@vocal shard https://10minutemail.com/

[ebon hazel]

Banned two times already huh

[uneven rock]

Just use a burner oh my god

[vestal imp]

bruh

[uneven rock]

It's like you want me to not help you

[regal furnace]

when you are that lazy then dont even bother making a server the first place

[tribal widget]

I finally made my first VRC world. I don't think I've ever been happier to see an empty floor, except for the last time I cleaned my room. 😛

[uneven rock]

@vocal shard dunno, maybe the pages and pages of "oh God someone please help me I'm gonna kill myself"?

[regal furnace]

@tribal widget cool! if you have questions, feel free to ask me ^^

[uneven rock]

Good. Piss off if you won't accept answers to your questions. @vocal shard

[regal furnace]

oh no, we have a 12 year old over here

[tribal widget]

To have questions, I'll need to know more. But thanks 🙂

[regal furnace]

alright, feel free to pm me when you need something ^^

[uneven rock]

@tribal widget It's a pretty great feeling isn't it? I managed to get my first udon script to compile yesterday and made a yeet button.
https://streamable.com/8363qn

[regal furnace]

my first udon script was a teleporter to a 2km dropshaft

[tribal widget]

Yeet it for me 😛

[regal furnace]

udon# is quite fun to use

[uneven rock]

I just need to un learn a lot of Unity stuff

Do you want an actual answer to your question now?

[hexed glacier]

beach ball still not fixed

[vocal shard]

yo does anyone know why i cant hear people on vrchat because everything is at max volume and also pc volume is max too but i can hear everything except i cant hear anyone

[hexed glacier]

if beach ball isnt back before summer is over idk what im gonna do

[uneven rock]

@vocal shard I had a similar issue with a bluetooth headset, it would mute voice whenever it thought I was talking

I never managed to fix it, I just used a wired headset

[regal furnace]

i managed to break vrchat so it doesnt let me speak anymore. Mic is unmuted, mic indicator hears me talking, no one else does and visemese neither

[blissful agate]

when are they gonna fix the cache clearing????

[uneven rock]

Soon. #udon-general message

[blissful agate]

oh oke

[uneven rock]

Use a burner email like 10minutemail to create a new discord account to test whatever it was you were trying to recruit people for

[vocal shard]

@vocal shard go to your server settings scroll down to banned users and unban the guy

[red tiger]

can someone help me with my custom avatar for unity and blender

[vocal shard]

@red tiger
first thing is this is the wrong chat
second thing is be more specific

[red tiger]

imnew sorry

[pearl nexus]

is there any way to clear the download cache

(it doesnt work ingame)

[regal furnace]

they work on a fix already

[ebon hazel]

For now you can manually do it, YouTube has tutorials

[fast sandal]

@pearl nexus link on this post will give you the directions to manually clear the cache

#announcements message

[vocal shard]

if i made an avatar how do i upload it to vrchat?

Hi ^^

Is there a way to contact a VRChat member? There's an issue that some people have and i would like to propose an idea to them

[hardy coyote]

I want to play a horror game with someone in vrchat contact me if you want to

[rotund helm]

when are we gonna be able to clear cache from the menu again

[uneven rock]

Soon. #udon-general message

[rotund helm]

oh nice thanks digiholic didn't see that

[leaden thistle]

anyone else not being able to load into worlds?

[vocal shard]

Since rhere is no way of unblock friends if you get them out of sight, wouldn't be better to have a "blocked users" list, so you can unblock them at anytime?

Apparently it's a situation that a lot of people were, where they blocked ppl by accident and they couldnt contact them back

If there was a "blocked users", where you can see who did you block, and where you can unblock them, it would solve the problem, right?

[odd blaze]

vrchat.com , you can see all you blocked there

[vocal shard]

Ooooh

Thanks

Oh btw, sometimes i can't hear ppl, why could i have this problem?

[grim tusk]

have you checked your safety audio settings

some ppl are muted and blocked avatar by default tho if their reputation user rank gets low enough

[dawn mortar]

and the servers seem to be acting weird again

went into a public instance and it randomly boots me into another one, so i rejoin the instance i was originally joining, no avatars were loading at all, went into another instance, the 0 bytes loading shit occurs

[vocal shard]

@grim tusk it's not that, literally sometimes i can't hear anyone, doesnt matter the rank and stuff.. there's not even the logo saying they're talking

[odd blaze]

cache utterly broken, so when i want to see a new version of test map, i have to exit every time and clear cache or it will load the same over and over (local testing) 🐰 thats fun, so made a batch file to clear before it start

[vocal shard]

The audio gets laggy sometimes too, and it's not a space problem

Does anybody knows what could it be?

WTF I was on vrchat and it closed itself

[median maple]

Heyy I'm new here

[grim tusk]

HI new here Im prof oak

[vocal shard]

Can anyone PLEASE tell me when the clear cache button will be fixed, this is rediculous.

[median maple]

Hi professor oak I like your sense of humor! Btw can you teach me ?

[vocal shard]

Also why does every update break lately rather than fix?

[median maple]

Like how to smoke oak?

[grim tusk]

your name checks out

[median maple]

@vocal shard I have no God dawm idea I am a brand new baby

;)

[vocal shard]

its a general question not directed specifically at anyone.

[median maple]

I'm very picky when it comes to picking the right tree

[grim tusk]

thanks for liking my homour I like that you like it

well dricky you cant be too shallow with it, you cant judge a oak by its cover

[median maple]

Well my man I like the fact you liked it when I liked your sense of humor!

[grim tusk]

we go for oak personalities

damn thats a lot of liking dude

[median maple]

Dawm you do know a lot!

[grim tusk]

well I am a professor after all

[median maple]

I like it I like it! What else can you teach me?

[grim tusk]

well dont eat yellow snow thats a no go

[median maple]

Brb gotta wash that rusty ass sweat in that clean shower

[sturdy star]

the fuck is this

[grim tusk]

tf isnt this

[median maple]

Right

[sturdy star]

i dont knoew

[grim tusk]

welcome to the vrchat discord

[hardy raven]

@vocal shard just do it manually like we old players used to

[grim tusk]

back in my day

[vocal shard]

i'm not shutting vrc down everytime I need to clear, thats stupid

So, can anyone answer my question pls? :<

[hardy raven]

okay well... suffer then lmao?

[vocal shard]

It's been like that since yesterday and it's annoying af

[hardy raven]

i dunno shaggy i’m sorry dude :(

[vocal shard]

Dw its ok u3u

[odd blaze]

You can clear cache while in vrchat, dont need to exit, just if you are testing maps you have to, clear it manually but one you cant delete is Cache-WindowsPlayer

(this can lead to some of your avatar images being blank tho but that caches next time)

[median maple]

I'm back young fellas that are older than me

[grim tusk]

welcome back

[ebon hazel]

@odd blaze problem is though, is that recently that button has become broken which is why theres been a rise in people complaining they cant clear cache. they said there will be a fix later this week but sucks that it happened in the first place-

[median maple]

I have a question

And I'm not gunna raise my hand for it

[odd blaze]

oh i know, i reset my cache over 60 times today cause im testing a world and it wont update unless its cleared on local test

[vocal shard]

Sometimes i can't hear ppl, why could i have this problem?
Sometimes i can't hear anyone, doesnt matter the rank and stuff.. there's not even the logo saying they're talking, and i have to restart the game, or wait for a long time

(Sorry for the repost, just wanted to post it again on a single message)

[ebon hazel]

could be either internet or your pc maybe? is it a decent build or?

[wanton radish]

Hi! Sylys Sable here. Does anyone know how to get to the Rexouium discord server?

[tribal widget]

@wanton radish Hi Sylys!

[wanton radish]

Saros! I did not know you were involved with VR Chat.

[tribal widget]

I am now.

[wanton radish]

I have been on for a couple of months now. Using Changa's Rift S, and upgraded my computer/GPU., all for VR Chat.

[tribal widget]

I'm considering a VR rig, but I need something that will run under the voodoo magic of Windows 10 running in a Parallels VM on an iMac. 😛

[wanton radish]

Can't help you there... 😦

[tribal widget]

I'm thinking maybe a Quest would work

[wanton radish]

Changa has his Quest running on a high bandwidth WiFi connection using Steam desktop, with Vive body tracking.

[tribal widget]

our wifi is very capable. it's mostly a question of being able to afford it.

[wanton radish]

With the changes Facebook is making, I'll be looking for an alternative.

[tribal widget]

Yeah, that's not encouraging. Doubly so since Apple has officially dropped support for VR.

[wanton radish]

They did... hmmm... Well I don't get a lot of things Apple does.

[tribal widget]

Rumor is that they're working on their own AR solution, but so far there's been no public announcement and no visible hardware.

Also, Oculus keeps referring to all of their existing rigs as 1st generation. Which leads to speculation about what their 2nd generation will look like, and how soon.

[wanton radish]

I may go with the HP and possibly add Vive trackers.

[tribal widget]

Vive was until recently the only Mac-compatible rig, but they dropped Apple support at the same time Apple dropped VR support.

Technically Windows running in a VM shouldn't be aware of the host OS, so there is no reason why it wouldn't be able to use a VR rig straight out.

[wanton radish]

If the HP supports stand-alone play, I'd take it over the Index.

[median maple]

😂 im saving in a project and getting the valve index with controller and base with the full body tracking but first I need a PC to play vr but I don't want to get a massive one that will cost me 1000$ I just want one around 400 $ or less if possible I just don't want it to lagg that much if possible no lag.. Wich computer or laptop do you recommend me?

[tribal widget]

My machine has a Radeon Pro 580 with 8 GB of vram, and has 32 GB of DDR4 ram, so it should be able to handle the load.

[wise bluff]

You can get 30fps or less on vr chat with a budget of $400

Alot of user created worlds are the most unoptimized things my rtx 2080 has seen

[median maple]

And that is bad or good cause I'm not used to PC and I never have to take the fps in consideration

[wanton radish]

I made a desktop with a Ryzon 7, 32 GB and an RTX 2070, but it was nearly $ 1,000.

[rough pulsar]

The index runs surprisingly well on some older cards (I say older, GTX 1070/1080, barely getting by on 980Ti), and with the new 30XX series announced I can imagine there'll be a lot of preowned cards turning up fairly soon.

[wise bluff]

The new 30xx series gpus from nvidia are fairly priced, so you should take that into consideration @median maple

[tribal widget]

Yeah, a friend put together a new gaming machine on a budget. Watching him put it together was an education.

[wanton radish]

Anybody on now that knows how to get to the Rexouium discord or contact Kuri kitsu?

[tribal widget]

Systems have suddenly gotten very "adequate"

[rough pulsar]

Yeah, the 30XX cards look real nice but if they're a bit much, the 10XX series are still really good. All my main PCs run either 1080's or 1080Ti's and they're still fantastic cards, even now.

[wise bluff]

Such as the rtx 3070 which is faster than an rtx 2080ti at half the cost $500

[median maple]

Okay but can someone recommend me a good PC not that expensive cause just the body track and vrheadset are gunna cost me 1700$

[wise bluff]

Is the valve index what you want for your hmd?

[median maple]

Hmd?

I never saw that expression bro mb

[wise bluff]

Your headset

[median maple]

Yea I'm taking the valve index headset so I'll get the head everything with eye tracking ,the controller with real good hand tracking motion plus the base to get the full body tracking

[wise bluff]

The index+ full body is $1300

[median maple]

This for 1300 without tax and then 130 each for 3 tracking thingny

[wise bluff]

Leaving only $400 doesnt sound good

Either save up, or go with a cheaper headset

[median maple]

I'm saving up for the 25th of December 2022

[rough pulsar]

@median maple If you're even considering the Index I'd stringly suggest getting on the waiting list for one right now since I'm pretty sure the backlog is still pretty long, and the way it works is once you're on the waiting list you've 'reserved' one, but are under no obligation to pay until they can guarantee you a product.

[median maple]

25$ each two weeks

[wise bluff]

Im getting the rtx 3090 on december 14 since i get paid for that day

[median maple]

@rough pulsar yea thing is i'mma get it in 2022 max

[wise bluff]

Looking into buying another one and running dual gpus

[median maple]

Anyway I'm more looking for the computer BC meanwhile I'm saving for that I'll prob explore

[rough pulsar]

I'd love a pair of 3090's but I'd have to upgrade my mobo to even be able to fit them. It's already super cramped in the case with two 1080Ti's 🤣

[wise bluff]

If you are looking at prebuilts under $500 good luck finding one that would run vr

[median maple]

I just don't want it to be really expensive but want it to be lagg free

[ruby needle]

a pair?

even a single one is more then a normal high end gamer will even need.

[rough pulsar]

I don't use my desktop GPUs for gaming

[rotund helm]

you know that SLI has latency issues right lol

[rough pulsar]

Photogrammetry, rendering, neural networks, etc.

[wise bluff]

Exactly @rough pulsar

[median maple]

So I guess id need to make someone build one for me?

[rotund helm]

and cpu bottlenecks with 2 3090s will fuck you @wise bluff , don't get 2

[median maple]

Or can I get a laptop?

[wise bluff]

Im gonna get a new cpu whenever they come out

[ruby needle]

Yeah for that kind workload the 3090 is for Gallium.

Not really for gaming.

[rough pulsar]

A VR capable laptop will be even more expensive than a prebuilt desktop. For VR only get a laptop if you need the portability.

[median maple]

Oh I see

[wise bluff]

Might go with a thread ripper 3990x

[median maple]

And if I build one by a guy what is required to make lagg free and able to run vr

[rough pulsar]

Ugh don't talk to me about threadrippers and how they released the first gen with TR4 sockets then went and changed the socket type entirely and now to upgrade my threadripper I need a whole new mobo, like what the fuck AMD this is some intel level shit

[wise bluff]

Computers dont lag, they skip frames whenever they cant handle certain games @median maple

[median maple]

Yea whatever one that doesn't skip

[ruby needle]

I mean, in honestly the first socket did kinda have some problems with reliability

[rough pulsar]

Eh, fair. I'm just whining about some grade A premium first world problems.

[median maple]

So yea what would be required?

@wise bluff

[ruby needle]

It's fair. But the TR4 had so much issues with contact pads and you had to nail the preasue, to little and contact issues, to much and contact issues.
So i guess that one can be excused. (As long as the new one is better)

[wise bluff]

Man if you want fbt And index, save up another $400 and build a pc for $800 since gpus will decrease in price

[median maple]

I could go up to 600 the only thing is soon I'll buy a car, I need to pay my studies after the 10k is gone then I'll skirt into an apartment cause parents are toxic so pay bills etc

[wise bluff]

Lmao at this point just get an htc vive

[median maple]

That's why I don't want to pay too much if it's not necessary

Nah the headset is for sure index

I'm talking about the computer

[wise bluff]

I know

[marble tide]

no vc?

[wise bluff]

What $600 might run pcvr smoothly though, i had a optimized bang for the buck $600 computer and it was skipping frames over and over in vrchat

[median maple]

Frl..?

[wise bluff]

Yeah

[median maple]

Well I'll go see a dude ik and tell him what I need and he'll give me a price

So what is required to have in it so it won't skip?

[wise bluff]

Some vrchat worlds and avatars could bring your frames very low, so it would depend

[median maple]

What would you suggest ?

[wise bluff]

Bro i got a rift s and full body for $ 700 and my pc for $864 @median maple

[vocal shard]

Is it ok for VRChat?

[wise bluff]

I mean it probably wont run on vr

But maybe desktop

[median maple]

Yea but I mean getting the index it's a whole other lvl

[wise bluff]

Yeah but running index on a crap computer will ruin your $1000 experience

[median maple]

Yea so if I build one what would I need in it and what price do you think it would go up to,?

[wise bluff]

At this point get an rx 5700xt and a ryzen 5 3600 but i would hold out untill nvidia releases their gpus

[median maple]

Omg I'm fucking lost bro

[tribal widget]

actually, the VR experience will be limited by the weakest link in the chain. Most likely that'll be the computer and GPU, but when that is sufficient, you may discover that the weak link is actually VRchat. 😛

[median maple]

Too many numbers and gpu cpu Chinese stuff

[wise bluff]

Yeah vrchat is such a shite optimized game

[median maple]

But it's nice tho right?

[rare cave]

is it possible to play vrchat with motion controllers and no headset?

[wise bluff]

No

[deft island]

Yoo cache location that's sweet

Cool

[vocal shard]

Im on desktop

[wise bluff]

Bruh

[gloomy remnant]

ok

[wanton radish]

My experience with FPS in VR Chat is similar to SL. It's greatly effected by the world I'm in and the other avatars that are in that world.

[slow drift]

now i can throw my cache on a external drive instead of it gobbling my 256gb ssd

[sage pewter]

^ Blessed

[wise bluff]

I wont have to worry about frame drops whenever i get my hands on an rtx 3090

[sage pewter]

Thank you team

[median maple]

@wise bluff on be chat they give you the recommended PC Ram gpu etc is that what I would need or with the index it will crash?

[slow drift]

rtx 3090
solve vrchat's unoptimized code with pure brute force computing power

[wise bluff]

@median maple my pc crashes just because vrchat is being vrchat, it wont happen and sometimes it will

[median maple]

Ok so if we just talk about my computer with the index headset

Will it run good with what they recommend?

[wise bluff]

Are you sure you are looking at the recommended or the minimum

[covert chasm]

@slow drift Unfortunately, GPUs can't optimize an avatar having 50 materials and 27 skinned mesh renderers... yet 😛

[wise bluff]

Y e t

[median maple]

Yea idk what they recommend

Do you?

[wise bluff]

Any bang for the buck pc thats above $700 would run vrchat fine @median maple

[ruby burrow]

"Changes - Added a configuration option to set your own cache directory. This is an advanced user feature intended to allow easily changing where your cache is stored. You can use this to assign your cache to another drive, if you wish!"
❤️

[median maple]

Cool and that is prebuilt or no?

[wise bluff]

When you have 20tb of storage

[paper cloak]

speaking of the cache directory, the docs state to create the config file in appdata/local not appdata/lowcallow

[wise bluff]

@median maple pre builts are a no go

[paper cloak]

is this a separate config file from the particle system limit/dynamic bone one?

[median maple]

Wym?

[wise bluff]

Mostly overpriced systems that manufactures sell

[median maple]

Oh okok so what ram, gpu cpu storage should I have

[tender fulcrum]

Is the lag when entering your menu fixed too?

[wise bluff]

16gb ddr4 3200 mhz, rx 5700 xt, ryzen 5 3600, and whichever ssd and hdd you want, but atleast an 80+ bronze 650 watt psu and throw it in whatever case you want

[median maple]

Thank you brother

[rapid pagoda]

will it work if my json file is in LocalLow insted of Local? thanks

[pastel portal]

Yes

[ruby needle]

what do you mean @rapid pagoda it has to be in the correct vrchat folder

[rapid pagoda]

well my vrchat cache is in LocalLow instead of Local

[ruby needle]

That is correct. %AppData%\..\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat

[rapid pagoda]

Documentation says %AppData%..\Local\VRChat\vrchat

[pastel portal]

aka. Yes

[median maple]

Let's play a game

Raise your hand

[rapid pagoda]

https://i.imgur.com/2DcwQUN.png

[paper cloak]

that's what I was wondering as well, googi

[rapid pagoda]

yeah ive never had the VRChat folder in Local. Always has been in LocalLow

[dusk tartan]

I wont have to worry about frame drops whenever i get my hands on an rtx 3090
@wise bluff Wrong, I have a rtx 2080ti OC and frame drop can happen when there's like 30 + players

[charred haven]

Im still having problems trying to even load into vrchat 😥 I havent been able to since Friday :/

[dusk tartan]

VRChat performance is just a mess when it comes to VR

[paper cloak]

no, user created content is just a mess when it comes to VR lol

[pastel portal]

The game is too intensive on CPU, I dont know why buying a big gpu will solve your frame drops

[rapid pagoda]

^^ agree

[dusk tartan]

^

[ruby needle]

@rapid pagoda i have forwarded that info, thank's for the headsup.

[rapid pagoda]

👍

[pastel portal]

Googi chad, make mod

[river ibex]

%APPDATA%/Local or LocalLow? Because cache folders are in LocalLow not in Local

[rapid pagoda]

no

@river ibex were trying to figure it out right now xd

[ruby needle]

dont forget the \..\ cus you need to go back one folder when using %AppData%

[ebon hazel]

should be locallow?

[paper cloak]

yes

[pastel portal]

aye

[river ibex]

Appdata/LocalLow/VRChat/VRChat

[rapid pagoda]

yup ^^

might just be a typo in the documentation

[pastel portal]

Or their test build saves the cache in the Local folder

[rapid pagoda]

[pastel portal]

🤔

[vocal shard]

it's the solution i've been looking for, it's finally come

🐱

[ashen smelt]

are there any other people who are lagging like crazy?

[river ibex]

And I wonder... why isn't the VRChat cache saved in the same folder where it is installed?
Why does it do it in C: which is more prone to filling up?

[placid umbra]

Fixed to be LocalLow instead

[rapid pagoda]

👍

[hazy lotus]

would enywon like to join a scp group for vrchat?

[river ibex]

In addition, there should be a maximum cache limit, I do not think it is beneficial to have 20 GB occupying disk.

[covert chasm]

@river ibex Microsoft defines AppData as the location where programs should "store their data and settings". Many, many applications store cache in AppData-- in particular, AfterEffects is notorious for this, storing up to 20% of the drive's capacity before clearing automatically

We store it there because that is where you are supposed to store cache data. Storing cache in the local install directory is violating all kinds of standards.

[onyx laurel]

It doesn't write to the directory.

or creates one

[rapid pagoda]

Will having the cache stored in a HDD instead of SSD affect avatar/world loading speeds?

[ruby needle]

The main problem it all boils down is people underspec their system SSD's to save a few bucks. And why i persoanlly always recommend 500gb minimum.

[river ibex]

And the people who don't want to have it in C :?
Many design programs allow you to choose the disk you want to use for this cache.

[floral aspen]

Changes

• Added a configuration option to set your own cache directory. This is an advanced user feature intended to allow easily changing where your cache is stored. You can use this to assign your cache to another drive, if you wish!

[covert chasm]

Then you change the configuration to move the cache directory. 🙂

[ruby needle]

Hey, this patch just provided that functionality officially.

Tupper 2 fast 4 me.

[river ibex]

Yes, but that now 🤷‍♀️

[covert chasm]

I mean... do you want us to remove it?

🤔

[river ibex]

No, I mean it should be an internal option in the game options.

[covert chasm]

Symlinks worked previously, but changes in our back-end made it so symlinks didn't behave. That's why we added it now.

[river ibex]

Nothing happens, I'm glad the game continues improving.

[ruby needle]

Directory Junction OP

[covert chasm]

I'm personally fine with it being an external option for now. Its a pretty advanced feature. Most PCs that ship nowadays come with a reasonably large OS drive.

The days of "just put your OS on a 64GB SSD and put your games on other drives" are.. well, long gone

[frail escarp]

some avatars still have error models on

f

[river ibex]

Well, some of us prefer to shorten the lives of other SDDs other than C:

[onyx laurel]

So it DOES work, However it displays people as errors fixes the problem if I hide and show avatar

still not writing to the folder

[river ibex]

Let's test this function~

[covert chasm]

Write wear is also a thing of the past. Most drives have around 300-600+ TBW these days

[floral aspen]

^

[covert chasm]

which means for a 500GB SSD, you'd have to write over the entire drive 600 times to hit the point at which the manufacturer says "you're probably gonna hit write wear"

with wear leveling, ECC, bad block management, and TRIM, modern SSDs with high-level usage will last a decade or more

if you've got data that's important to keep around for a decade or more.. uh... you should probably invest in backblaze or some long-term storage solution

[vocal shard]

my total storage is a little over 2 TB so i have no problems with the cache size, but the system disk had it separate for these applications that make constant use disk write since it's if it's an SSD, in addition my RAM size is 24GB, it's time to configure this

[river ibex]

[covert chasm]

cache in vrc only gets hit on avatar or world load, so in general terms, bulk files written occasionally (where occasionally indicates timescales of seconds instead of ms)

it shouldn't sit on and peg disk usage

[river ibex]

Eu

There's a problem

[covert chasm]

Did you restart VRChat after changing the configuration?

[river ibex]

Let me do a screenshot

https://imgur.com/a/7gV9ujy

[covert chasm]

do not use \ in json

that is an escape character

use /

[river ibex]

oh~~ true

[onyx laurel]

oh that's what I did wrong

[covert chasm]

use a good text editor with JSON linting (VSCode!) and you'll catch stuff like that 😉

[river ibex]

Always Notepad ++

[onyx laurel]

^

[covert chasm]

also I don't know what'll happen if you store cache in your steam dir

steam does not expect that

you may run into strange issues

[vocal shard]

the truth is that a lot of content created by users is not very optimized and i have come to cache of up to 30 GB in the past, i still don't think it is a problem in mechanical discs since i still have an old one there that is like 10 years old and still working, the problem for me are SSD's and their limited writing time of life

[river ibex]

I still think that we shouldn't do this and it should be in the VRChat Settings.
Think about it for the future, it will help many people.

[covert chasm]

cache is limited to 20GB @vocal shard

and as noted above, SSD write life is very much improved over the past 10 years

to the point of it being a non-issue

[ruby needle]

(And HDD's aren't wear prove either)

[covert chasm]

if you think you should be mad at VRChat for cache writing, don't look at your web browser 🙃

[vocal shard]

i know

[onyx laurel]

The docs should be updated of the / instead of \

[covert chasm]

[onyx laurel]

"This file must sit in the %AppData%..\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat folder, and must be named config.json"

That's what I meant

[covert chasm]

You should not be putting that path into your JSON.

Windows is agnostic to the slash you use, JSON cares however

[dawn gate]

It's nice that I can move my cache. I like to keep this kind of stuff on my laptop's partitioned HDD, which has way more space than the main SSD.

one question though - if any, what folder(s) would I need to move (if necessary) to the new cache location?

[ruby burrow]

Capacity 600 times? I thought modern SDDs could go longer than that.
Either way, I'm obviously very glad to have an option for this now.

[river ibex]

@dawn gate You can delete all the files from the APPData folder except the config.json that you have created, in this way when you play VRChat again it will create only the files necessary for work.

And you will free up the unnecessary space in C: 🤷‍♀️

[celest flower]

Why is everyone an error bot for me?

[ruby burrow]

I really really should have made a symlink ages ago either way, but ignoring my own stubbornness, it just always seemed unreasonable for a platform that's aiming to be accessible and simple to use for a wide audience.

I've been clearing and re-writing somewhere around 8gb every week for 2+ years from my 120gb drive. It's an older drive (cost me £120 when I bought it.) and has surely been suffering some write wear from this. >_>;

[worldly summit]

At least it'll give you an excuse to upgrade that drive

Same price is now 1TB SSD, and it's only getting cheaper

[ruby burrow]

Yeah, been intending to for ages. ^ ^;

Poured my money into a VR upgrade + upgrading everything else in this PC spare for the storage.

So been running this eight+ yearold SDD the whole time, alongside a 2070 super etc.

[opaque yacht]

Third update after 3.0. Fist on vive still not working.

[ruby burrow]

Right now fist analogue doesn't work at all on 3.0 avatars unless you build it yourself, and on 2.0 avatars it's become strange and keeps resetting rather than releasing smoothly.

I do hope the devs are aware of this one. I need to check for cannys. ._.

[opaque yacht]

And gestures turning on after you stop pressing touch panel.

[ruby burrow]

I talked about it to Hackspanner in the AV3 channel, and he said analogue functionality is still supposed to be functional for AV3 avatars, but for whatever reason the example hands controller provided in the SDK doesn't actually have working analogue gesture control.

[desert stratus]

yever buy a 2060 and a day later ampere is announced 0u0

[devout island]

Not like you were gonna upgrade anyway

[ruby burrow]

That too. I've ended up switching to the alternative Vive control scheme, but would really like the ability to use the classic control scheme without it bugging like that.

[opaque yacht]

and one more thing. Why i cant change maximal cache size...

[desert stratus]

but...the new cards look so pretty

[jaunty creek]

is there any way to look arround without a mouse?

[desert stratus]

idk if this works in deskto[

[onyx laurel]

Controller @jaunty creek

[desert stratus]

but try plugging in an xbox controller

[jaunty creek]

we are using teamviewer for remote controlling a PC with VRChat and the mouse movement are not passed to VRChat, just clicks (no headset)

[wary hollow]

Hello Vrc team there is an issue with the wands trigger after the A3 update.
When depressing the trigger smoothly it does not open the hand smoothly.
it just cancels the anim

[jaunty creek]

we use Teamviewer to connect to a faster remote computer because in the old local one VRChat crashes

[ruby burrow]

With this cache change, it would actually be nice to have an option for max cache size too, unless there's a technical reason against it. Would happily keep a far larger cache and have to re-download less often, if possible.

[jaunty creek]

where is the setup to choose a controller instead of a mouse?

[onyx laurel]

for an xbox controller it's just plug and play

for ps4 you'd need to setup that in DS4Windows or in steam settings

[jaunty creek]

we are on a remote controlled PC

is it possible to lookaround with the keyboard? would be the best option

[onyx laurel]

I don't think it will work with TeamViewer, I use Parsec

[wary hollow]

You can use the touchpad on the ps4 controller like a laptop pad so that may help you.

[jaunty creek]

with Parsec you can look around with a mouse on a remote computer?

it works well?

[summer temple]

Does VRCHAT ban based on IP or MAC?

[onyx laurel]

yes @jaunty creek

[jaunty creek]

excelent! thanks a lot, I will try now with Parsec

[onyx laurel]

that's how I play Mario Party with like 4 other people

[regal moss]

new update seemed to have made everything delayed, all my inputs seem to have a second delay now

[untold palm]

i seem to be unable to change characters

i cant change to the avatars that are in my favorited list

[jaunty creek]

@onyx laurel it works well!! thanks pal!

[onyx laurel]

No problem

[untold palm]

oh i was not oon the up to date verision on stea,m

[jaunty creek]

@onyx laurel is there any way to send and receive audio with Parsec? (mic and speaker) to talk with other people on VRC?

[river ibex]

@covert chasm Save this for the future updates. It will be simpler and more practical for many users.
https://imgur.com/a/QosQhQ5
Thank you for continuing to work on VRChat.

[onyx laurel]

No clue, I just used discord for communication @jaunty creek

as for like your friend controlling you, I have no idea not sure if that will work for them talking

[vocal shard]

@river ibex oh

❤️

[untold palm]

i has to join near empty servers so i dont crash

[steady jasper]

Hello

[vocal shard]

game broke again WOOHOO

lets goooooooooo

whats fucking new

[heady salmon]

so like is everyone limited to 8 emotes or do you unlock more when reaching a higher rank?

[vocal shard]

fix this fucking shit!!!!

[simple pike]

???

[vocal shard]

anyone good w C# have any idea how to fix "return type 'audio Data' is less accessible than method 'AutoSampler.GetAudioData(int)'"

[vocal shard]

yeah!! config.json is now working, VRC cache is now redirected to another drive, i'm happy now, thanks! VRC team for solving it quickly

🐱

[earnest pond]

you get more if you have nitro

@heady salmon

My subscription ends tomorrow i had it for ark survival but i stopped this game

I forgot to cancel for 5 month so ouch 50$

[heady salmon]

how does having nitro in discord enable more emote slots in the game? :v

[quasi trench]

yo, does anyone have a crusader avatar i could cop?

[earnest pond]

Because it does

And you can have a custom gifs profile pic

Clic on my profile pic you shall see

[royal basin]

It doesnt

[earnest pond]

Well in my old server it did

Idk then but dont take nitro its not worth it

[lucid portal]

You’re misunderstanding

They’re asking how to get more emotes ingame

[earnest pond]

Oh

I was talking about discord!🤣

[royal basin]

You don't get more emote slots unless you learn avatar 3.0 in which case you get almost infinite @heady salmon

[lucid portal]

Speaking of nitro though, my gift is gonna run out pretty soon

[earnest pond]

Same

Tomorrow

[vocal shard]

oof

[dense hatch]

Question: do people not really care what avatar you play as?

I mean, I'm sure some will bother you about it if you pick a "cringe" one, but.

I don't think folks much care about that.

[earnest pond]

The weirder the funnier

[heady salmon]

if you're using one you made, doesnt that get a slightly different reaction than using a standard common ripped one?

[tawny hatch]

depends on the person reacting

[lucid portal]

I mean, I use furry avatars and nobody has said anything about it

[visual spear]

i just now realized something weird

the AFK avatar isn't even quest compatible

[tepid crag]

anyone know if VRchat will work with the 3000 RTXs comeing out soon?

[lunar drift]

i don't see why not

its the new best gpu out there

[gray edge]

avatar can tell a bit about the personality

it's like part of your vrchat identity

[proper adder]

vrc needs to fix the player join lagspike

[polar frost]

Anyone know how to fix the bug when you can't even get into your home world?

[vale vale]

Is anyone else not able to join worlds? Or is that just me?

[slim scroll]

you brought back the knock knee FBT bug again dev!

[opaque sparrow]

How i increase fps and lower ping

[high fog]

Get gooder internet and PC

Lol I don’t know a whole of ways to do that other wise, I mean lowering the poly limit for avatars can help with FPS

[hushed oxide]

why when i enjoie i cant hear any one and i cant see any avatar

[high fog]

Idk I haven’t had that issue, might be an issue with the avatar

[hushed oxide]

How do I fix the problem

Anyone can solve my problem please

[opaque sparrow]

Try changing saftey settings

[hushed oxide]

how i change saftey settings

[ruby spoke]

in the safety settings menu

[vocal shard]

😂

[sharp saddle]

Is it just me or are lag spikes more common nowadays?

[hollow sluice]

They are

I noticed it too

[split compass]

Can someone help i havent been on for a day and i still cant even go onto a world ;-;

.

[tiny sigil]

would make since their more common as the userbase has grown a lot

[hollow sluice]

Nah thats not why

They probably broke something since the last update

[safe karma]

Hey. I'm a Windows Mixed Reality headset user and I can't for the life of me get any kind of usable controls back since the changes.

[vocal shard]

You need to set your steamvr bindings to default

[safe karma]

I did. It didn't do anything but screw up my controls.

[vocal shard]

I'm just about to jump in with wmr. So I'll check it out

[safe karma]

the left controller thumb pad just duplicates what the thumb stick does. The left trigger button does nothing. The right thumb pad does multiple functions at random. it moves my avatar and it also does a limited set of emotes.

[vocal shard]

By default, the controls try to imitate the vive wands. So there's two levels to the touch pads.

[safe karma]

That's the problem. it's not a vive controller.

it doesn't have the same buttons.

[broken plover]

It has the same buttons. A touchpad, a trigger, a grip button and a menu button

• an extra thumbstick

[safe karma]

my left thumb trigger button doesn't respond though. the hand doesn't clench into a fist like the right one does.

I don't have all my emote functionality like I used to either and jump.

[broken plover]

Are you pressing something on the touchpad while trying to do gestures? Because since the avatar 3.0 update, vive (and wmr) controls had this issue where they stop doing any gesture when you press the touchpad. Before you could press the grip or trigger while moving around without the gesture stopping

[safe karma]

no, I'm just rolling my finger over the touch pad.

not pressing down.

My controlls were fine after the 3.0 update, but sometime in the last week or so, I suddenly lost the ability to jump using my prefered SteamVR binding.

but trying to use the default binding, it just feels broken and I don't have all the range of emotes and the ability to just do all the stuff I used to be able to do.

This sucks. I just want the controls the way they were before.

[hollow sluice]

Than edit them yourself

[bold tangle]

hello

[hollow sluice]

Those binding are outdated

They are new features that need to be bound somewhere lol

[broken plover]

the only thing that needs to be bound is the radial menu, but thats on the same button as the quick menu. So the controls didn't change at all, other than you can now hold the menu button to open the radial menu

[safe karma]

It's not working like it should. I know its not because I'm missing stuff I used to be able to do before with the old "outdated" bindings.

I had way more precise control with the old bindings. Now when I just want to do an emote, sometimes I start moving because the thumbpad has double duty, which is rediculous.

[broken plover]

for me it sometimes turns when I only touch the right touchpad. Usually you press it to turn. But opening the steamvr overlay and closing it again fixes it. ~~ ever since the av3 update released and they still didn't fix it ~~

[safe karma]

This is all just so dumb. I hate it!

[vocal shard]

👶

[hollow sluice]

@safe karma keep in mind. This game is completely free with no microtransactions

And its early access so you should expect issues

Thats what early access is for

[safe karma]

Psh. Yeah. I already spent 80 bucks getting my avatar the way I want it

[hollow sluice]

Thats not vrchats fault lol. None of that money went to the devs

You can always just make your own avatar for free

[safe karma]

I just want controls that I can actually use with my Mixed Reality.

I dunno how anyone with a WMR headset is ok with the default bindings.

[broken plover]

do you have vive advanced controls? I don't have the same issues you're having and I use vive advanced controls. Maybe normal controls are completely broken, while advanced controls are only partly broken

[safe karma]

no. I have the vive advanced controls selected in settings.

[broken plover]

weird

[safe karma]

my left stick is useless. The trigger button literally does nothing. The thumb stick and thumb pad both do the same thing.

which is just directionals

[broken plover]

and you have default selected in the steamvr bindings?

[safe karma]

yes

[broken plover]

then idk what else could be the problem. I guess its really just vrchat being scuffed (as it always is)

[safe karma]

Yeah. I'm sick of it. Pretty much at the point of throwing in the towel on VRChat after spending over 1000 bucks on hardware just to play VRChat.

as well as the 80 for my customized avatar.

It wasn't like this at all until the update a few days ago.

[narrow hemlock]

Anyone know why I can’t sign in with oculus on vr chat?

[agile spoke]

anyone know the world where neko nya(kromia) avatar is? send me the link in DMs or ID please

[crystal zinc]

Is this the appropriate channel to ask for help, regarding publishing VRChat models from Unity, to the client/server? I'm having an issue with mine and I accidentally posted it in avatar rigging before :/

[hollow sluice]

this isnt a help channel

try the channels in the help section

*development

[crystal zinc]

Thank you :)

[vocal shard]

?

He has a vive pro and index controllers

[tacit plank]

why did you break the IK? avatars are off by like 5cm

[last rapids]

did you try legacy fbt?

[tacit plank]

the position. and not yet

[vocal shard]

wtf

[tacit plank]

happens only when sitting

[waxen rover]

is it just me where it keeps saying my info is invalid? idk how to fix this, i've linked my steam account to my vrchat account and it only works when i log on through steam which i cant do in my quest-

[minor salmon]

hi

[waxen rover]

hey

[fresh iris]

is there away i can block someone from coming onto my world?

[waxen rover]

uhhh just block them i think

[frank laurel]

Go on a private/invite only world?

[waxen rover]

or that

[fresh iris]

no i mean i dont want them to come onto my world ever... like no mater if he has some sorta of bypass mod or going into a public instance of my world. i dont want him coming onto my world ever

[frank laurel]

Block

[waxen rover]

block ^^

[fresh iris]

oh yeah also 1 more thing... you know how there are mods for VRC?

[waxen rover]

mhm

[fresh iris]

is it allowed to have a mod that makes it if someone tries to kick you, you cant get kicked at all

like if a world moderator tries to kick you, you wont get booted off

[waxen rover]

uhh

isnt that kinda bad tho? if someone tried to kick its probably for a reason

[fresh iris]

thats what i thought... a anti kick mod should not be allowed

[warm hornet]

Been thinking of getting a rift s for a few days now anyone think its still a good idea or should i wait till the 16th but then i may half to wait until 2021 heh

[fresh iris]

if you really want to play VR quickly. get the rift s

i just got my rift s a few days ago

[waxen rover]

again tho, how do i fix the invalid info glitch?

[lament siren]

Rift S Is really good

[waxen rover]

TwT

[vocal shard]

facebook account necessity is less good tho

[static flax]

@waxen rover best off contact support tbh
@fresh iris modded clients are against the rules my dude
@warm hornet Rift S is really good, but if you have to wait a bit, check out the HP Reverb that's about to release as well

[fresh iris]

I KNEW IT

haydnpugs11 is the guy i was talking about.

[warm hornet]

HP you mean hewlett packard is make a headset

[fresh iris]

i can never kick him. some times he opens a txt file of an avatar then pastes the thing in his client and he gets the avatar on him

[static flax]

Yeah they're making a new windows mixed reality. Heard a lot of good things about it

[fresh iris]

i think he was using Melon loader or Ruby client

[static flax]

Tbh retro as bad as what he's doing is. You shouldn't talk about it here. Report him and all that good stuff and avoid being around him

[fresh iris]

oki

[static flax]

The fact that you have an idea of what mods he's using is pretty sus as is

[fresh iris]

he sharescreens his mods all the time

either way i should go report him now

[waxen rover]

Will do

[static flax]

Sorry it's happening tho Shoto, I knew tellin someone to just go contact someone else is hella lame when you just want an answer

[waxen rover]

No worries, i'm just trying anything at this point im getting desperate lol

[hushed cape]

mm is it just me or are avatars taking very long to load in

[heavy mist]

Any one wanna play vrchat and watch anime in like a theater

Dm me if you want to

[tacit plank]

I'm following this tutorial telling me to rightclick and go to the VRChat menu to make some Avatar v3 component, but that menu doesn't exist

[vocal shard]

alright

[tacit plank]

Nvm it exists now, weird. Oh well, that's development

[vocal shard]

Is there anyway i can get vrchat on mac?

[grim tusk]

Is there anyway i can get vrchat on mac?
@vocal shard If you intend to play with a VR headset, running on a Windows machine is practically required.

If you want to play on desktop, you may try to play on Mac OS with a program such as Wine. I have never tried this, as I don't own a Mac OS machine, but I do play on Linux using the same method and it works great. I described how such a set up would be possible in a previous comment here, though again this isn't tested so I can't guarantee it will work.

You would also likely have luck installing or dual-booting Windows on your machine using Apple's Bootcamp. This is the most likely to work best for you. If getting a Windows license is not an option, you may alternatively dual-boot with Linux and use Steam Proton to play the game.

this was from a reddit thread I found https://www.reddit.com/r/VRchat/comments/g08nn2/vrchat_on_mac/

[hexed glacier]

20 days left until summer ends. fix beach ball emoji.

[vocal shard]

no

[golden olive]

I'm curious if there are any WMR users that actually have working controls right now. Everyone I've talked to since the updated that added the 'bindings' menu has been unable to use their headsets properly. Very frustrating, looking for a solution other than "Reset your bindings to defaults' Which fixes jump, but breaks movement.

[ivory tendon]

So far havent found a fix for it either. I played with bindings for a straight hour and a half with no solutions @golden olive

[stoic halo]

damn i need more female friends in vrc

[golden olive]

Thanks Space, I guess we just have to wait for a fix

[devout island]

No shit

[mellow palm]

Im tired and exhausted

lets play some vrchat

[raw pine]

[vocal shard]

how do i turn down the graphics?

[broken plover]

hold shift while starting the game

[vocal shard]

through steam?

[broken plover]

yes

[dusk tartan]

You can't turn down the graphics, only the resolution

[broken plover]

it has graphics presets. VRHigh, VRLow and Desktop Low

[dusk tartan]

What

[broken plover]

they don't look any different for me. But Desktop Low performs the best

[devout island]

Vrhigh is like 8x antialiasing tho

Also highest quality shadows while vrlow is 2x I think and medium quality shadows

[dusk tartan]

Is it on high by default?

[broken plover]

either it is, or it automatically sets it depending on the hardware. Because for me it was always on Desktop Low

[rose timber]

@golden olive @ivory tendon which WMR headsets do you have? Also, please file a report at feedback.vrchat.com, if you haven't already.

[golden olive]

Samsung Odyssey+ I just managed to figure out a temporary work around, it isn't perfect but at least I'm not crashing into things anymore

I used a community binding called 'SteamVR 1.6.10 WMR VRC Bindings V2.0 and then edited the right controller bindings to force the 'A' button when you push on the DPAD. This allows movement to still work on the sticks, but lets you push on the DPAD when you want to jump. It disables rotating from the DPAD however, but this is something I rarely use anyway. Gestures still work when touching the DPAD. Hope this helps someone.

[rose timber]

Do you enable Vive advanced or leave it unchecked?

[golden olive]

I beleive I have it unchecked, but I'll go look

I have it unchecked.

I put in the feedback as well, I see a few others having the same issue so have responded with what I found

[sterile ingot]

Omg, the prices of these 3000 series cards!

Big navi better be worth the hype or AMD is in trouble.

[broken plover]

inb4 amd drops a gpu with 3090 performance for 900$ and undercuts all the other gpu's by atleast 100$ aswell
~~ probably not gonna happen tho ~~

[sterile ingot]

Yeah, probably not. This is like . . . Radeon all over again.

[last rapids]

unfortunately they didnt say anything about the 30 series VR performance which was lame af

[sterile ingot]

A 3070 does 2x performance of a 1080.

[broken plover]

2080*

[last rapids]

ok but thats desktop?

[sterile ingot]

VR is kinda moot after that.

[broken plover]

wait no the 3090 did twice of 2080.. my bad

[sterile ingot]

I think the 3080 is 2x 2080 . . .

[last rapids]

you do realise that VR requires 3x the performance of desktop right?

[mighty nest]

144hz on 2 QHD displays sounds pretty good

[sterile ingot]

You have twice the performance of a 1080

A 1080 runs VR just fine

[broken plover]

and minimum requirement for vr is like a 1060

[last rapids]

reprojection is not "just fine"

[vocal shard]

?

[sterile ingot]

Whatever you say

Lol

[broken plover]

since when does a 1080 need reprojection to run smooth?

[last rapids]

if people cant run alyx at 120fps without reprojection on a 2080ti its not gonna perform well on a 1080

[sterile ingot]

You can lead a horse to water

[last rapids]

2d rendering performance != Multiple camera VR rendering

[mighty nest]

kinda sucks that there is a lack of vr benchmarks in general o.o

[last rapids]

unfortunately most companies who can dictate whether something is important or not don't care

cd projekt red said that VR was too much of a niche to bother with

its probably going to take a long time before developers consider VR something worthwhile to invest time in, even after Alyx proved it wasn't a gimmick anymore

[vestal imp]

ok zoomer

[vocal shard]

one proper finished game is out
not a gimmick anymore
ok

[sterile ingot]

Flat gaming is likely still more profitable

Developers are interested in making money

[last rapids]

@vocal shard yea pavlov and a bunch of other good VR games arent finished right?

[vocal shard]

a janky version of CS, yeah very good game

[hexed plaza]

what do i do when the world loads and its stuck at 100%

[vocal shard]

cry

[vestal imp]

send a ticket

[sterile ingot]

Wait

[jaunty oasis]

Id say a vr clone of cs, pavlov does a pretty good job

[hexed plaza]

how do isend a ticket?

[vocal shard]

#vrchat-support

[hexed plaza]

ty

[vestal imp]

i was joking dont send a ticket

just restart the game

[mighty nest]

Still think cost of entry is still too high to really get traction and become mainstream

[ruby needle]

i dunno

with how much value you get out of it (playtime) and how much other gaming gear costs its not that bad

[last rapids]

well yea the cost is too high atm but its relatively immature, VR has only really been mainstream for ~4 years

it took decades before gaming was considered worthwhile and not a gimmick

[sterile ingot]

I think VR is at that Verge where it's a difficult argument to say that it's not mainstream or is