New unity's gonna be nice
#vrchat-general-2
rigid crescent
odd basalt
no I am sure vrchat will still have some more years in early access lol
split bone
Bruh
rigid crescent
eh not like it matters either way honestly
rigid crescent
It's a minor inconvenience, calm down
molten vessel
At this point a new "vrchat" is gonna come out before it gets out of early access
rigid crescent
lol there's multiple "new vrchats" that have tried and aren't doing too hot as of yet
dawn rune
Aka Lavender.
odd basalt
its still 2018 sadly. Newer versions got so many extra helpful stuff like shader and even node programing on the most recent ones. But its not a LTS one so we have to stuck with 2018. We get Udon at least
rigid crescent
or the other one. HiFi
dawn rune
And look at those reviews. Basically all negitive.
molten vessel
Lavender's not doing too bad if you look at it in the point of its still being worked on and built.
split bone
Never heard of those
rigid crescent
When it launched late the patreon funding tanked 🤔
vocal shard
ChillVR will take over VRChat at one point, it's just way more optimized and streamer friendly
rigid crescent
It doesn't matter how much better something is if more people still prefer to be on the platform they're already a part of
dawn rune
^
molten vessel
never heard of chillVR
frosty veldt
Who cares about being streamer friendly? Its all about creative ability
dawn rune
ChillVR is still closed beta if i rmemeber correctly
rigid crescent
Pandering to streamers is already part of this game's problem
odd basalt
High Fidelity its a different kind of game tho. Kinda similar but at same time different. And its closed so it doesnt matter
frosty veldt
The main thing vrchat has over any other social VR game is the existing audience
vocal shard
Streamer friendly also means not getting crashed by malicious shaders and getting your avatars ripped within second so you can actually SHOW OFF your avatars in public, which you certainly can't in VRChat
vocal shard
No, but the ones that do
rigid crescent
and you don't need to be in the same room as someone to rip their model sooo
the few that do? lol
vocal shard
^ still proves my point
molten vessel
Any game can let the avatars get ripped.
odd basalt
but NeosVR has a great potential. If VRChat keeps this line of being just VRChat with small aditions from time to time, I am sure that NeosVR gets the crown over time because their project its way ahead of VRChat. It just lack users which its a huge thing but time can fix this if they keep working on it
vocal shard
^
molten vessel
No matter what game your in, any game its possibel to rip an avatar.
frosty veldt
The new 2018 constraints are promising a lot but I havent tested them
rigid crescent
Neos seems more focused on getting the creator crowd but most people don't give a shit about that kind of thing
they just wanna hang and vibe with friends, which VRC provides
odd basalt
the prroblem isnt if the avatar can be ripped, its how much the devs of such platform cares or not
rigid crescent
They do a pretty good job of removing properly DMCA'd models
vocal shard
No, actually not. If you have a great protective system it can deny the "ripping" which alot of add-ons(clients) have, so your avatar and animations will be completely scuffed or useless with no fix attached, that atleast stopped my avatars from getting ripped
frosty veldt
Not allowed to care if its not a 100% scratch model
odd basalt
Neos surprised me greatly. I never seen such kind of interactivity on any other game in my whole life. Its really on a complete different level than vrchat
vocal shard
its loading for a really really long time
rigid crescent
lol multi-million dollar games can't stop ripping. some indie VR title won't figure it out
grizzled dome
same me too cant get in
molten vessel
I think the issues are starting to get better? i'm able to load my avatar now xD
vagrant kettle
same
fierce hazel
im having issues getting past the white screen
vocal shard
even*
vagrant kettle
lmao @vocal shard
rigid crescent
"Have multi-million dollar games by AAA developers even tried to stop asset ripping" Yes?
stuck solstice
cant even get in the game
dawn mortar
login through vrchat, not through steam
odd basalt
@vocal shard the problem relies on how you have access to your memory which means that you can copy evverything you want
stuck solstice
i a,
dawn mortar
well i couldnt login via steam but could via vrchat so thats working fine it seems
rigid crescent
I get people have this idea of some utopia where you can't have your MMD kitbash ripped, but it doesn't and probably won't ever exist.
vocal shard
As scientists says, there's always a fix to a problem, if you care and try hard enough you'll solve that issue
rigid crescent
See what I mean?
fierce hazel
I can login on the vrchat website itself but cant play any games
odd basalt
so unless computers gets locked hardware where no one can access, you cant stop people from ripping
dawn mortar
also its tuesday, steam maintenance day
molten vessel
There looking into it so hopefully it'll be fixed soon. blegh
tacit plank
Some things can't be fixed as they aren't actual problems, besides that, sure
jovial pulsar
yo, I've had issues with the announcement tab lately, it just says "Load more messages"
dawn rune
I mean,. That wouldnt happen @odd basalt Since peopel would just keep using what they already have.
jovial pulsar
How do I fix it?
molten vessel
Try resetting discord?
slate verge
i think they are done with the maintenance? not sure
tacit plank
Announcement fails for most when there's a lot of users
polar jasper
Just wait
jovial pulsar
I tried ;_;
odd basalt
@vocal shard the issue is not withing the games or hardware, its on people that steal thats why its a hard to fix problem. That or cloud gaming its the only solution
tacit plank
Thosewho can read it, please send a pic or TL;DR or something
magic moss
@jovial pulsar check #vrchat-general-1
vocal shard
yk how you guys were talking about other vr programs
magic moss
#announcements
(Hey everyone, we're aware of and are currently investigating some issues that may drop or prevent connection to VRChat services. We appreciate your patience as we look into this!https://twitter.com/VRChat_Status/status/1240018380788125697)
@torpid tree
rigid crescent
There's just next to no realistic way for anyone to prevent ripping, especially a smaller indie dev team. It makes more sense to just handle the actual copyright/DMCA cases personally
which is what VRChat does
polar jasper
It’s sending out messages to 40k+ people, so got to wait for that to go through
vocal shard
See the thing is at least vrchat updates their game which is still pretty good at the least
magic moss
whoops didnt mean to mention you there, typh
vocal shard
Id love to stay on vrchat because of the connections Ive made
gleaming kraken
ay! announcement channel is stuck club!
tacit plank
Thanks
dawn rune
Most active games get updates. Its nothing special about vrchat. @vocal shard
molten vessel
Not only does the game break. the server breaks.
rigid crescent
If your model that you own is ripped, go through the proper channels and it'll be taken care of, as it nearly always is with that type of model.
Most people don't rip them because they know better, and the few idiots that do are typically dealt with
tacit plank
I think ripping is rare, and copy/pasting avatars is common (if the hack works. Probably does)
molten vessel
Also most of the time if you don't want your model to get ripped just be in a public avatar when your in publics or friends+ and then be in your normal avatar or something that you own when your in invites or invites only or friends. Most people don't know how to rip if they aren't in the world since it's a hassle.
vocal shard
I can't even see the ping the channel won't load
molten vessel
@vocal shard "Hey everyone, we're aware of and are currently investigating some issues that may drop or prevent connection to VRChat services. We appreciate your patience as we look into this!"
dawn rune
@tacit plank As far as i am aware, all ways that made it possible to copy/paste avatars like that are patched.
odd basalt
yeah, there is no other way of "protecting" yourself. There is literally no way of protecting a model inside of a game because this one will always load in your computer's memory and from there you can do everything with it. But if it were cloud gaming, no one could access those. So I see why cloud gaming has some interest in the industry. It could bring good things I guess
rigid crescent
The bigger streamers are smart enough to stay safe in their "bubbles" or echo chambers of other content or content creators as well, so even saying that CVR will have some benefit to streamers is silly.
molten vessel
That's what the announcement said.
tacit plank
No idea where they're getting avatar download URLs without being in the same instance though
Alright, sounds good
still yarrow
if they want to stop ripping they would have to constantly change how the uploads are encrypted
and that would be a lot of work
vocal shard
waiting to see announcement channel owo
polar jasper
@tacit plank by knowing the avatar ID and using the API
still yarrow
so ripping is never going to be stopped
rigid crescent
Yep
still yarrow
and knowing this game that is never going to happen
vocal shard
are they finally updating to Unity 2018 owo
rigid crescent
knowing any game that is never going ot happen
tacit plank
You can't get the avatar ID from the username using the API AFAIK
odd basalt
even if you encrypt it, it needs to decrypt before it loads into memory. Once in memory, it cant be protected anymore
molten vessel
Another thing to help with avatar ripping, don't make your avatar public. there was a huge ass rip a while ago that took pretty much EVERY single public avatar in vrc and put it on a website.
polar jasper
@tacit plank if the avatar is public you can.
But all it takes is one idiot with a modded client that leaks this info.
odd basalt
it doesnt matter the engine, on memory all files are raw data. When you load a model into your gpu memory isnt an unity or unreal model anymore, its just a 3D mesh
isnt as easy as stealing an unity file or download it but you can still get the models and textures and whatever
tacit plank
Unity is easy to rip, sure.
I see. It's not from the user page, so it must use some other API entry I'm unaware of. The "show avatar author" page seems to be seperated, at least API-wise
Ripping is hard to fix. People downloading others avatars without loading them first is a bigger problem. The first one is only a risk in public, and the latter can be automated
polar jasper
All avatar ids are stored in a file in the app data folder. Can just go through that one.
agile dune
imagine ripping an avatar only to get it as a .asset file because you cant retrieve compiled fbx data
still yarrow
the only thing about ripping is you don't get an fbx or the shader
rigid crescent
most people are using the same few shaders anyway
still yarrow
thats the only thing thats hard about it but even then you can get the fbx's easily
polar jasper
The avatar API also show the full asset url, even on private avatars.
So once you have the avatar ID you can get the asset.
still yarrow
only if you have the id
which you can only get if given to you or something like that, if its private
agile dune
you can parse an avatar id when they load the avatar in an instance
nimble nimbus
there are 480+ thousand avatars on the ripper website right now
still yarrow
oh
rigid crescent
neat
tacit plank
Avatar IDs are no longer part of the output log, and the list of IDs doesn't seem to be tied to names or anything else (or at the very least, it's encrypted?)
still, all of this relies on you entering the same instance as them, it can't be done just by a username
nimble nimbus
all taken from vrchat
tacit plank
Sleeping pills are kicking in so I'm off
still yarrow
im 90% sure that website is bs, thats a lot of filesize
rigid crescent
i wonder how much they'll make off it
still yarrow
unless they have multiple drives or computers specifically to store those
nimble nimbus
it just says download
molten vessel
it isn't bs, it's legit almost every avatar on vrc that's public on there.
Only way to remove it off is to delete the avatar off your account, reupload it as a private or as a public again.
polar jasper
@still yarrow if you have them on your friend list you can still get the avatar ID even if you aren’t in the same instance.
still yarrow
its easy to get a name and picture of a public avatar
nimble nimbus
I haven't tried downloading anything but I could test it if you want feedback
molten vessel
If you delete the avatar it'll be removed off the website and the picture will be removed too.
still yarrow
nope
agile dune
it doesnt matter if you delete the avatar if they downloaded the vrca file and are using some sort of storage like dropbox to store it all,
agile dune
exactly
molten vessel
are they still public?
still yarrow
no, they are deleted
agile dune
they were public beforehand but avatars that were made private are not removed from there either
molten vessel
Don't know then, worked for me when I removed it off my account completely, then reuploaded it as a private.
tacit plank
As far as I know, avatars are not actually deleted, just delisted
molten vessel
It's not on there anymore so.
vocal shard
rigid crescent
there's a few private ones here and there but mostly pubs ye
tacit plank
Which seems dumb from a HDD-space perspective
still yarrow
they're not, avatars i deleted around a month or two ago are still there
ruby burrow
The fact that deleting your avatar from VRC also deletes it from that store, is the biggest clue they don't actually have anything.
still yarrow
sigh
agile dune
too bad thats not the case
vocal shard
but what about the public asset bundle links!
polar jasper
@tacit plank space don’t really cost anything. It’s CPU and memory that cost
vocal shard
@polar jasper hi
polar jasper
Hey Gondola
tacit plank
I guess that's becoming true, but I have 100+ avatars, with multiple versions, all averaging at least a few MB
vocal shard
good times
vocal shard
wtf!
still yarrow
yeah and theres tons of avatars that are several hundred mb
tacit plank
"Nothing is ever deleted again" is a scary thought, though
agile dune
i own 3 swords
polar jasper
Yeah, what about it @vocal shard ?
ruby burrow
Also if they do have the files, then removing it from store via deleting it on VRCs end obviously wouldn't help regardless, since they'd still have it.
vocal shard
@polar jasper add me back!
polar jasper
@vocal shard sent
still yarrow
im pretty sure it just downloads the asset bundle of each avatar uploaded to public, since some tools let you view recently uploaded public avatars, and it only started doing this some months ago
vocal shard
@polar jasper thanks, friend
polar jasper
@ruby burrow it could be that it ends up in a queue for deletion. Just in case there are any reports on it.
ruby burrow
Why would a ripper site queue to delete their stock just because the owner temp deleted it?
polar jasper
No, the VRChat site
still yarrow
i think he means the entire website being deleted.
polar jasper
The other site in question don’t do anything
still yarrow
i dont think theres sreally much vrchat itself can do about it, but maybe modellers, but then again the site has a text at the top for requests to delete from-scratch models
polar jasper
They also don’t store anything for the front end except for what actually belongs to the site.
All files are linked from VRChats bucket.
still yarrow
thats probably their attempt to avoid modellers trying to get it taken down
note that if they do have all of these models, its just the asset bundles, and they havent even gotten it to unity.
vocal shard
@still yarrow does he look like a b****
still yarrow
!!!!!!
faint skiff
They're just walking the API and creating page listings with the name and profile picture. It's really easy to do. Don't worry about it.
vocal shard
I can't get login from steam to work
polar jasper
Steam got maintenance today, so could be why
devout berry
Sigh... Why so many people still use Steam logins? They get less features, plus are chore to recover from crasher attack.
sharp saddle
devout berry
Facebook user = *censored insult* who gives their data to the internet for free.
torpid tree
I got tagged here?
near sky
Download through Steam; login through Steam, no new accounts -it makes all the sense in the world for convenience sake if you don’t know why VRChat accounts are preferable 
torpid tree
My launcher is steam but I use vrc acc
near sky
Maybe we should be emphasising why VRC accounts are the better route
devout berry
They should put a nag screen about it on the in-game login screen.
devout berry
Then we would have less questions like: Wha can't I make content?
torpid tree
F11 should be a key that does something 
umbral reef
Also because a lot of people when they start out dont realize the perks of a vrc account and they just use the most easy option
devout berry
I would write a request for that notify, but I am not touching that damned canny!
Reasons:
- Another stupid account in the account collection.
- Every registered user makes the expenses for the devs bigger - I have read canny pricing - they have to pay per customer registered in their feedback.
polar jasper
That all depends on their plan. Business is unlimited and don't pay per user.
frosty veldt
If they had to pay per customer, and cared that they had to, why would they consistently tell everyone to post things on the canny?
umbral reef
quick google shows its just a flat 50 a month
devout berry
Still, no. 1 is bigger nope for me.
umbral reef
Ow hmm nvm there detailed pricing indeed shows what you said rampa
cinder dock
Why are we on about?
rugged bronze
THe connection issues was because of vrchat's servers.. not my pc, so i uninstalled gta 5 for nothing??
this really sucks
vocal shard
What the rank trusted User mean
rugged bronze
it means he/she is a trusted user
cinder dock
Wait why,,,
rugged bronze
;-;
vocal shard
...
cinder dock
Yes I am a trusted user.
rugged bronze
i thought gta 5 was taking up Storage Space / making my pc lag
cinder dock
Ah
rugged bronze
so i uninstalled it in hope for Vrchat to run smoother
cinder dock
But storage space does not cause lag.
cinder dock
Its how many processes your CPU is handling at once.
ruby needle
If your drive is full, or you still use a old HDD that is totally fragmented (and you happen to free up a big connected space)
tho that's what defragmentation is for
lone orbit
anyone know a nice place for furry AVs
cinder dock
And if you are still using an HDD. I'd recommend an inland SSD. They are not very expensive and can save you alot of time when it comes to booting and loading things.
real plover
has a man fallen in the river?
lone orbit
lol
vocal shard
@umbral reef what are the perks of a VRC account?
devout berry
Being able to create avatars from the new user rank and worlds from user rank.
ruby needle
Beeing able to use the website and it's features.
A name without strange symbols at the end.
devout berry
- you can manage it from vrchat.com, which makes it much easier to reset avatar after crasher attack.
And 2FA - no one can break into your acc. without your auth. code generated in your phone.
ruby needle
Well, that one is not that different
if you use steam with 2fa it's basically the same 
devout berry
But it won't ask for Steam guard on game login I think.
Or is it somehow tied to the running instance of the Steam client?
ruby needle
Well, that is kinda a bonus of not having to do it every time for each different game or when restarting the game, only once for starting the client. 
But, with a VRC Account you can link your steam account to it and keep that benefit of one click simple login in the game
broken plover
when someone hacks your steam account (just for vrchat) they also get your whole steam library vs when you use a vrchat account they only get access to your vrchat stuff (but to prevent that 2FA exists)
ruby needle
someone can still hack your steam account reagardless of vrc or not 
That's why you also 2FA that
broken plover
yeah, but I mean if someone wants access to your vrchat account and you use steam the guy hacking into your account also gets all of your other games and that data
devout berry
I rather keep my stuff separate. I read about someone being somehow automatically sent into a world, that changes their avatar to a crasher when they load, based on their Oculus ID. When they logged in with the VRChat acc. tied to the ID, it was not doing stuff, but when the Oculus ID was used, they have been attacked.
They said, that even the Go to default home button didn't work. Weird.
And yeah, I do the Steam free launch trough shortcut! Heard they can find you easier with Steam ID.
sonic ingot
I got my Index in. Too bad it doesn't work with my specific line of graphics card, lol.
real plover
ouch 
modest herald
That sucks
untold holly
Nice!
real plover
welcome 
bitter fog
Heh, thanks
real plover
vocal shard
Welcome
devout vortex
Hello! Um, I just got vrchat 2 days ago and I was wondering about where to go and what to do
vocal shard
explore worlds and meet people
When is the beta going to be not beta so I don't have to switch back n forth
red laurel
Hello, I just joined this discord today, please be nice.
vocal shard
real plover
welcome! 
prisma bone
Try reconnecting
sharp trout
@devout berry steam free launch? Is that desktop-only then?
vocal shard
for some reason the video players work in desktop but not vr
sharp trout
Try restarting the video, clearing game cache and restarting the game/changing worlds
I’ve done those the past few days and it’s been fiddly but 3/5 times it has worked
upper lake
hello
lusty wharf
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 13689 users in VRChat currently
vocal shard
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 11647 users in VRChat currently
twin fractal
damn
storm stag
Is it me or the Friend list is broken.
bitter fog
Is there a reason for the 16 favorite limit
Just seems kind of wrong to me to only have 16 slots
Like yeah it's an incentive to return to the worlds
But 16 seems a bit low. Something like 25 I'd be ok with
Oh well though, I'd assume it wouldn't be changing anytime soon
golden pebble
i feel ya
devout berry
@sharp trout You can call Steam VR without Steam if I remember. For example when I entered VR calling websites, it opened Steam VR, but Steam stayed closed.
covert blade
Considering the incredible amount of different fun avatars that have no avatar world, 16 is pretty low
For regular gameplay not so much because you'll likely end up maining just a handful of avatars max anyways
near saffron
My guess is it’s to try to incentivize players to upload their own
broken plover
I just use 1 avatar because my internet is slow and it takes ages to load an avatar
devout berry
Still using stock VRChat Bishop - the blue robot.
covert blade
Using my own avatars
pseudo basalt
Using 
public avatars
vocal shard
Know any good worlds for avatars?
devout berry
Idk any good, you will have to search yourself. I still use stock avatar.
vocal shard
is it possible to see if anybody ripped your avatars
like a notification or something
broken plover
Nope. If that would be the case ripping would be an easy problem to fix
vocal shard
God damn it, it would be nice if there was a away to see if people ripped your avatar or something
cause im so god damn scared to get my shit ripped
vocal shard
question, is there a reason why a random name is added when I go into social, but my friends and everyone else sees my real name?
like to my account it'll be some weird name, but everyone see's my actual name in game
warped creek
Do you mean 4 digits/letters appended to your name?
pseudo basalt
Avatars are very easy to rip, it's just that in most cases you're not important enough for your avatar to get ripped past someone just trying to annoy you
rigid crescent
Without any details no one can really know that
covert blade
https://i.imgur.com/ETjIdla.png There's just so much wrong about that
charred ember
waddup everyone
modest herald
Is there a place that has a bunch of base 3d models you can look at and get? Never done anything like make a 3d model but I kinda want to try my hand at making myself avatar, figure it'd be easier to edit a base model then start from scratch?
heavy kraken
Awww yes it's all back again. I dont know what magic that was but awesome!!! 8D
vocal shard
@modest herald its easyier to learn the basics of modeling and sculpting before you jump into trying to make an avatar
theres alot of work involved in creating one
obtuse pine
is there anyway to get support without submitting a ticket?
languid beacon
Not officially no
You can ask here and get user support
And occasionally a dev might answer
Don’t @ them tho
Unless you’re @snow wadi
obtuse pine
my game is literally stuck at 0.00% and wont load at all
vocal shard
friends with benefits
obtuse pine
startin to make me sad 😦
snow wadi
vocal shard
signal cobalt
hey, I've been thinking about gettin a headset, what's generally cheap but still pretty good, if anyone knows?
vocal shard
Budget?
broken plover
rift s. If you cant afford, then samsung oddyssey+ (only sold in the us though)
signal cobalt
No real budget, to give an idea I'm freelance but not paying for rent, food, and whatnot
More or less asking so I can save
vocal shard
Windows mixed Reality Headsets are usually regarded as good headsets for cheaper price.
A new Samsung wmr is often on sale for $230.
Used wmr headsets can be $150.
Rift S is more refined and overall a nicer experience for $400
near sky
rugged bronze
@reef tendon you there? you should add a Sword to your avatar
as a gesture
or a Gun, a gun works too :)
graceful coral
i got approved :3
signal cobalt
VR needs a pretty good pc to run well right? sorry for the questions
graceful coral
Hi everyone!
signal cobalt
ello
vocal shard
Atleast gtx1060 or equivalent. It can run on lower specs, but you'll be getting uncontrollable frame drops
And welcome
graceful coral
and aren't the graphics settings heavily modifiable?
vocal shard
hey so
anyone here familiar with uploading worlds etc?
Graphics can be changed in many games, but still, you're constantly rendering two seperate views at high resolution, then the render needs to be warped to cancel out the lense distortion. It takes a decent amount of power
signal cobalt
^
signal cobalt
i mean atm im stuck on a laptop sooo :P
vocal shard
:((
graceful coral
which laptop?
vocal shard
anyone here familiar with uploading worlds etc?
graceful coral
laptops aren't all necessarily bad
signal cobalt
my plan is to get an actual pc and then get vr
vocal shard
Well yeah, but a PC you're only rendering once, and say at 1080p.
VR is atleast two renders, distorted, and each render is maybe for a 1440x1440 screen
@vocal shard probably get more help in #world-development
graceful coral
i use a laptop with a 2060
vocal shard
Ooh nice
signal cobalt
I have an i5 with some random integrated graphics I think?
vocal shard
that was me a few years ago
signal cobalt
My dad just picked up the most expensive laptop at Walmart a few years ago lol
graceful coral
XD
vocal shard
I had the oclulus develpment kit and was trying to run it on a laptop with integrated graphics. Solid choppy 20 fps
graceful coral
i mean, i5 isn't bad. I lasted like 5 years with an i5 intel graphics mac.
signal cobalt
i mean vr chat runs at like 15 fps without vr already so I aint trustin this thing to run vr
graceful coral
you could buy an eGPU i guess
your best bet is saving up for a configurable desktop
vocal shard
Eh, more worth it to build a rig than trying to get eGPU and things to work off the laptop
graceful coral
true
vocal shard
Another option is always the Oculus quest. Could buy it now for $400, use it as it's own stand alone VR Headset. Some games are cut down to run on the lower hardware, but it's decent enough. Then eventually when you build a rig you can use an oclulus link cable to play it on your pc
Always different options
warped rain
Wait wait wait...
The Quest can now link to your PC?
I thought that wasn't possible?
vocal shard
Yeah.... That's been out for a while
graceful coral
yup
warped rain
Huh... Wild.
graceful coral
me about to play alyx with my quest
vocal shard
Oclulus has an official link cable you can buy and use to play it on pc
graceful coral
but bruh, thats 80 bucks
i just bought a different cable for more than half the price
vocal shard
Still lacks some of the fidelity of the rift S, since it's only running though a USB rather than directly plugged into your GPU, but it's good enough
graceful coral
;-;
vocal shard
graceful coral
what cable does the rift s use?
vocal shard
The rift S uses a cable that splits into a displayport and usb3.
So it's using the render directly from the GPU.
The quest link is using a streamed render over the USB cable
graceful coral
ah
vocal shard
It's still good tho 
graceful coral
what's stopping oculus from making a new quest cable that also plugs into the graphics card?
vocal shard
Just the way quest is built. It wasn't designed for direct feed and plugging into a PC wasn't their intent. so it has to pass through the quest in a different way. Basically the PC renders and compresses the info, it's sent to the quest where it's processor decodes the info and shows it on the screen.
Where as rift S and other VR Headsets are a direct peripheral
The next generation I'm sure will be a purpose built hybrid
languid beacon
Yeah the quest with a link cable is on par with a rift S. Better or worse depending on how good you are at noticing video compression and how much you prefer quest’s OLED screen / eye-separation slider
weary thistle
languid beacon
Personally I’m a big OLED fan so I think quest with link looks better than a rift S
I prefer color depth over sharpness
vocal shard
I prefer the sharpness and rift S lenses which to me had a noticably better sweetspot. One of the reasons I returned my quest for rift s
But, everyone has their preferences of what stands out more important to them 
languid beacon
Quest+link, even with its video compression, is still sharper than a cv1 so it’s still a win in my book
Plus the option of wireless streaming is <3
feral gorge
languid beacon
I’ve decided on Index as my main headset with a quest for hobby content creation and occasional wireless streaming flexing
vocal shard
Well yeah, that's the ideal
faint skiff
Yeah, Quest using Virtual Desktop is useful for wireless, but shame you need to use a headset with it due to the quality of the headphones and mic.
languid beacon
Yeah I don’t know why they cheaped out on them
viscid seal
oh, is the quest mic and headphones not as good as the desktop headsets?
languid beacon
The audio I was actually fine with but peope did say my mic sounded bad
viscid seal
ah ok 😦
graceful coral
can we all agree that valve makes the best headsets?
languid beacon
I do know vrc was having issues with quest mics it may or may not have been addressed
viscid seal
still holding on to original rift as long as the hdmi cable lasts XD
faint skiff
It's really, really bad. I mean worst headphones I've ever used level bad. The mic doesn't pick up well either, I have to talk a lot louder.
pseudo basalt
could get a modmic
i heard some quest users, it's generally not that bad if it's not cutting out
languid beacon
can’t say yet I don’t have an index and valve didn’t make the vive @graceful coral
pseudo basalt
need to crank everything up
pseudo basalt
but even so, it's weird how the mics are a problem considering how cheap they actually have to be
graceful coral
valve DIDN'T make the vive?
faint skiff
I bought a Corsair virtuoso to use with it, but that's a lot more bulk on its own and can easily come off.
pseudo basalt
valve made some standards and developed the tracking technology that the vive uses
languid beacon
It’s HTC Vive. HTC made it. Valve made the Valve Index.
pseudo basalt
htc made the vive in partnership with valve
graceful coral
ah
pseudo basalt
as far as I know
faint skiff
@pseudo basalt even as max volume people can barely hear me, it doesn't go anywhere near loud enough it seems.
graceful coral
that's why you use a headsettt
languid beacon
Valve made the lighthouse tracking spec which is why vive and index can share the same sensors but the hardware was not made by valve at all.
graceful coral
oh
faint skiff
But that's a big expense and adds a lot more mess to your head
pseudo basalt
yeah, i like the vive das with how I specifically don't have to have a headset
that's why a modmic should be good, considering it's small
graceful coral
true, but your parents won't be able to hear you doing shit in vrc
pseudo basalt
tho it's expensive
faint skiff
Plus if I was diving around or playing beat sabre, I don't think it would stay on.
pseudo basalt
i'd get one for the vive as well, it's mic isn't exactly great either. it pops like crazy
languid beacon
I know quest is underpowered but the idea of portable vr without a Pc or cable is just too cool
pseudo basalt
still need to try to stick a piece of sock as a pop filter
faint skiff
Yeah, that's another example of "why". The vive mic is so bad, with the rough sound, wind, pops etc.
Should have put a little more effort into it.
pseudo basalt
it's not that bad when it doesn't pop
languid beacon
I live alone so idc about audio leak
pseudo basalt
of course you're not gonna get studio quality here, but it's generally perfectly fine
faint skiff
I've heard one or two people where it didn't. I guess it depends on the shape of their face and mouth.
pseudo basalt
and how low it sits probably yeah
but i think you can stick some fabric onto it to stop the popping
faint skiff
I put a felt button on mine, helped a little but not much.
faint skiff
Balaclava Vive Mic Fix
opaque hawk
mic issues are pretty common on hmds I've noticed. My wmr headset that I started with had line in instead of mic in levels. Vive isn't very good as previously discussed. I never had a CV1, but that headset seemed like it wasn't friendly to child and female voices. Index has a really good mic, sounds almost like a sm58. My quest has a decent mic when it works.
cosmic belfry
Why does practically every MMD model look almost the same in design proportionally? Why do they call them MMD Models if MMD models are made externally from the MMD software? Why is MMD a genre if you dont actually make models with MMD? Honest Questions.
rotund parcel
cosmic belfry
that's still a short amount of time, play longer and you will notice your status will change from visitor to user in no time
real plover
keep playing to get a higher status and unlock the ability to upload stuff :]
languid beacon
MikuMikuDance models are called MikuMikuDance models because they were models made to use with MikuMikuDance. @cosmic belfry
They look similar because they have the same style as Miku herself
That way they fit in
As one of the most popular games that people make UGC for, it has all these models readily available for other games to use which is an easy target for people wanting to upload a model to VRC
It’s also because it has its own file format, .mmd, so they are also often literally mmd files
cosmic belfry
ok so it's purely a stylistic choice that they all look that way. So once the model hits the MMD software and gets saved it becomes an MMD file? That makes sense, thanks for the clarity @languid beacon
rough pulsar
it has all these models readily available for other games to use
Most MMD licenses disallow this
cosmic belfry
I'm aware of the content theft of alot of MMD creators it seems to be a prevalent issue in the community according to most people I speak with about it
rough pulsar
Like, they explicitly state the model is intended for use only in the MMD software itself
cosmic belfry
I was told its also common in the actual MMD community as well
kitbashing
or whatever the term is
rough pulsar
It's not if profit is involved or not, it's that some media comes with a license for use and those have restrictions.
cosmic belfry
It's not so much that its a problem of letting people do things its just when they step on toes of the people who created the assets and go against their wishes, thats when it becomes an issue. If the creator does not wish for it to be ported into VRChat then its best to respect that
most dont though
still yarrow
what do you expect, its the internet
people dont follow guidelines/rules
im not excusing it
cosmic belfry
I'm just delivering the perspective I'm not dying on a hill or anything
still yarrow
but if people dont want their stuff stolen they need to keep it to themselves
cosmic belfry
so, we should just stop putting out new content that people enjoy as a whole indefinitely?
still yarrow
i'm talking about mmd creators who get upset over stuff like that. if you're putting it out you should realise people are not going to follow your rules, thats just how some people are.
or anyone for that matter
yeah its wrong for people to do it but people like to think they can get away with things because its the internet, and not real life
rough pulsar
The ones who make 100% original work do have various legal backings to defend against unlicensed use of their work.
cosmic belfry
Im just saying though the situation is the same if you create something intended for use in softwares like these then you're in a similar comprimised stated where it can happen, if you say keep it to yourself then that means the community just wont grow and nothing new will be posted
I am aware of the legal route though
rough pulsar
It totally isn't. If the license says no and you decide to do it then you open yourself up to shit. 🙂
still yarrow
yup
rigid crescent
Damn, selling other people's work poggers
slate axle
Hello
real plover
hey'o
languid beacon
Nothing about mmd models are inherently restricted to MMD or disallowed to use in games. It is dependent on each individual creator to set their own terms of use.
If it is freely available for download at the source from the creator and no restrictions can be seen, it can be assumed that it is free to use for any non-for profit purpose.
Assuming of course that they are truly it’s creator.
And this is the case for the majority of content targeted for MMD I find online. They don’t care as long as you aren’t making money off their work.
Of course if they do say it’s only for MMD, you are obligated to adhere to their request
Another important point is that setting one of your uploads as public counts as redistribution, so if the creator says you cannot redistribute, it should remain private.
wintry ibex
Yo guys I need some advice, Im a VRChat avatar maker and I did job but now it's done and the guy won't pay
cosmic belfry
@cold dome just dont go out of your way to step on toes there is a level of natural copyright law over newly created art works, legal action can only be taken though once it's registered officially. At the end of the day just respect peoples wishes if they go out of their way to ask for it
wintry ibex
what should I do cause I can't scrap the work
real plover
did you deliver before payment?
wintry ibex
nope still have it on my computer
cosmic belfry
If you're doing comissions for work maybe ask for half of the pay up front before you get started people cut and run all the time
wintry ibex
dude just dropped contact after requesting few changes
cosmic belfry
I recommend checking out the VRC Trader discord they specialize in this kind of thing, informing and advising the community
real plover
well that sucks, at least you didn't deliver before payment
umbral reef
I dont know the name as my brain is mush right now
But if you fully own the model (so not kitbash stuff) there are websites you can still it on.
Make it a non commision buyable avatar for a cheaper price
cosmic belfry
yeah you can distribute your creation elsewhere for others to buy and still make cash off of your work
wintry ibex
I can possibly do that, great idea actually
umbral reef
But only do that if you 100% own the content you make. So no mmd base and alike.
cosmic belfry
VRCTraders discord
wintry ibex
I'll join that later on today, you all here are great help for this situation thank you
bitter fog
Ye, only if you modelled the thing
spice turret
hello, i'm new. How can i search for a talk/chill worlds? All i can get is screams/dance/music (in default search) 
knotty flower
hey have u heard abt po-
spice turret
so this is a general issue with this? 
jovial swallow
grim canopy
cosmic belfry
Does anyone know about the Virtual Keyboard Prefab? the blue one with the seat I dropped it into the world Im testing and it doesnt work when I click on it try to type manually or with the colliders
hardy acorn
bruh
covert blade
@wise berry No, but there is a rule 15
When ya get shut down in one channel so you try the next, hoping that no one notices
Can ya stop spamming?
hardy acorn
is this some bot or
broken plover
cops are on their way to 👏 you out of this serer
hardy acorn
nice
covert blade
He left lol
covert blade
Thx bot
hardy acorn
imagine having to ask for erp's instead of just cutting about in void club
vocal shard
was curious if someone is using a mod or client for searching on avatar and equip in murder
what report option do you use owo
covert blade
None
Report using #moderation-reports
slate verge
wow the index is still in stock shockingly
abstract nymph
vrchat sucks all these avatar worlds are the same female anime weeb stuff with sometimes emo or slut things like bruh i wanna be a badass character not some small anime furry gitr
rancid flame
make your own avatar then
umbral reef
Or search harder
abstract nymph
idk how to model
rancid flame
dont complain about things that are free
abstract nymph
Or animate
rancid flame
learn it then
umbral reef
Well most dont also- Thats the reason we have all these lookalike avatars because editing those is easy
rigid crescent
i wanna be a badass character such as
abstract nymph
but why female anime furries
umbral reef
@rigid crescent big buffed dude ofc
rancid flame
they are free to use. dont complain
abstract nymph
i see so many of these avatars witrh cat ears
umbral reef
Pretty sure there definition of furry includes catgirls
Correct me if im wrong though.
rigid crescent
You uh....you realize that's not what a furry is....right?
I guess I answered my own question lol
rancid flame
catgirls are not furries
umbral reef
But ima be eating some glue together with my paint
rigid crescent
Yeah, not sure if bait or dumb. either way, just upload your own model if you want some edgy sword badass
abstract nymph
still i dont wanna be a catgirl :kekw
abstract nymph
i wanna be like dante from dmc or m bison from sf or azazel from high school dxd kek
umbral reef
My proper edgy and not so edgy its cringe boyo avatars are not catgirls
If this paint brain can make edit those things then so can you 🙆
Just need to put energy in following a video and looking for models online
umbral reef
Pretty sure i was more spot on mic :^)
Big buff dude
rigid crescent
they fit pretty well into both categories here
umbral reef
@abstract nymph But look online for avatars that you would enjoy, follow a youtube tutorial on how to import that stuff and tada problems solved
rigid crescent
Either way, learn to do it yourself or pay someone to do it or find it in a world somewhere.
abstract nymph
I dunno where to find people lol
rigid crescent
there's a search bar ingame for worlds
abstract nymph
Which I've used
rigid crescent
not very well apparently, damn
abstract nymph
I've found a lot of cool avatars, but
rigid crescent
then there you go
abstract nymph
I had to unfavorite them
umbral reef
And a world like 'DMC 5 avatars' would not fit in your book?
abstract nymph
I think I have
rigid crescent
then....whats the issue
abstract nymph
nothin comes up I know I did Street Fighter, Street Fighter V Avatars, M. Bison Avatars and nothing
rigid crescent
you said you can't find any cool avatars then you say you found some
abstract nymph
I only favorite avatars that I can't find in avatar worlds
so like a lot of my avatars are ones I yoinked from others who had the copy avatar on
slate verge
Look in community labs then
abstract nymph
Yeah, but none of them are like
I'm looking for an avatar that I can use daily lol all of my avatars are just kind of meh or like
slate verge
You want a public avatar, but also underrated one right?
abstract nymph
they're the annoying avatars that spam stuff
rigid crescent
you probably won't find one unless you make it y ourself
basically the only way to find something "unique"
make it yourself or pay someone to make it
abstract nymph
Alright how hard is it to like recreate Dante from DMC5 then kek
rigid crescent
WHy not us USE Dante from DMC5...
abstract nymph
?
slate verge
theres already dante from dmc5 in vrc
abstract nymph
Really?
slate verge
yes
abstract nymph
wot
rigid crescent
if it's a popular videogame character, i can almost guarantee its in this game alraedy
abstract nymph
I swear I've looked it up a few months ago and nothing
rigid crescent
the world has existed for nearly a year now
abstract nymph
Well couldn't find one for street fighter? 🤔
umbral reef
There is legit a world called 'DMC 5 avatars'
abstract nymph
wtf I'm retarded then
umbral reef
Pretty much any game with 3d models has been ripped by now
slate verge
street fighter avatars are also in the game I saw plenty of them as well
rigid crescent
SF models look like siht ported into this game lol
umbral reef
Street fighter doesnt have traditional 3d models so its more iffy id guess
slate verge
no offense but yes most video game models are crap looking in vrc
especially the realistic looking ones
rigid crescent
You actually need to know what you're doing to make a game rip look decent
Yeah, especially realistic ones
They can be done well it just takes actual skill to do.
slate verge
ye
stiff carbon
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broken plover
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bitter fog
And we're back
proper willow
Does anybody know where I can find a club penguin quest avatar?
languid beacon
@wintry ibex only accept payment before transfer
This one is a loss - don’t do anything. But use that rule in the future
Oh I see you didn’t well
There’s really nothing that can be done.
stoic adder
Does anyone know how to get through the door at the Japan Shrine world?? It says 'Find The Numbers'
real plover
lil secret i assume
stoic adder
Probably but I have no idea what it means :/
meager solstice
@untold holly i believe the hub changes with events/changes
golden pebble
lmao
untold holly
@meager solstice I mean, is there a way to access the old versions, like maybe a secondary world for the last season.
polar fjord
just looking for some cute waifus for my harem collection anyone interested
meager solstice
@untold holly I looked in the world menus and the only one I saw was the Halloween one
untold holly
oh, oof
bitter fog
A few times today when I was in a world just minding my own business suddenly I got forcibly put back into my home world. Is it a connection thing? Because my internet has been iffy the last few days. First time it happened was when I was in a world with nobody else in it, second and third times were when I was in a super laggy instance of a world with several people in it.
Actually, third time wasn't super laggy. When I say laggy I mean framerate
Anyways, bleh. Stuff.
I'd be inclined to think someone was kicking me if the first time it happened wasn't when I was alone, in an avatar world
Sorry if this isn't the right channel for this by the way
real plover
connection issues can kick you back to home world
if you got kicked by someone it would tell you
vocal shard
Hello >_<
analog kayak
Hi, does anyone know the name of the song in the world "Drinking night"?
sturdy pecan
Uhhhhh
sharp trout
Ask he whom made it
vocal shard
hello?
stone barn
Alguien español
worn dirge
Whats the best vr headset for around like $300 or more or less idk, @ me if you have an answer
Actually forget the money range
Any amount
rancid flame
@worn dirge for the best vr hmd with no money limit i would consider the xtal, but i assume you are talking about consumer so the valve index.
vocal shard
@worn dirge the Samsung Odyssey+ often goes on sale for $230
The rift S is $400.
They're both good, but depending on your budget I'd spend the extra
worn dirge
Ty
vocal shard
Uh so I have this hacker that's being petty on VRchat somehow hacked it so when we are in the same room drops racist portals as I walk because I called him out on something blocking didn't do anything I know who the person is and their VRchat picture is 2 guys butts? I don't know how to go upon this because VR chat staff doesn't have a report button is there a way to fix this or get this person permabanned?
#moderation-reports
There's a link to send in a full report with a ticket
@vocal shard thank you I made a ticket
Np ^-^
rotund depot
is anyone else getting lag infront of mirrors recently? its like my tracking is off or something but only happens when im infront of a mirror
vocal shard
Me also
rotund depot
and when loading into worlds itll try to load 3 times, give up and send me back to my home world. but event thats started to screw up
anyone else getting that?
vocal shard
no hm you may neeed to clear cache or reinstall
rotund depot
had to finally come here cus all the videos i can find are from 2018 and look so different from now
reinstalling wont screw with the avatars i have saved correct?
vocal shard
no as long as they are saved in your "favorites"
rotund depot
perfect
lusty wharf
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 12653 users in VRChat currently
cinder python
I heard the Rift S is good.
umbral reef
more important is your pc VR ready
cinder python
I think it's only about $400. The Oculus Rift S?
umbral reef
Also most Windows mixed reallity headsets are often leaps cheaper then the rift S
vocal shard
im now on a windows 7
rancid flame
why are you still on windows 7?
vocal shard
because it has the best grapichs card
rancid flame
what?
rancid flame
upgrade the os
umbral reef
I reallly suggest you update to windows 10 just because of security reasons
rancid flame
you can literally upgrade to windows 10 for free
umbral reef
As windows 7 isnt supported at all anymore
umbral reef
But run the SteamVR performance test (dont download steamVR, just the test)
devout berry
Even though Microsoft ended officially free upgrades from 7 to 10, if you check the net, they never have disabled it - you can still activate windows 10 with windows 7 PK.
Just read the tutorial on one of the web pages. But be ready, that you will maybe have to do a clean install - when I upgraded on my desktop, it broke in about 2 months. After a clean win 10 install it works still works till today.
swift vault
Can someone help me? How do i report a crasher after the fact with log evidence? Maybe via email?
nvm. I found it in the FAQ https://help.vrchat.com/kb/article/26-i-want-to-report-someone/
covert blade
@swift vault #moderation-reports
visual mirage
хуй
winter coyote
@swift vault You need video evidence as well
And it should be about 1 to 3 minutess long. Must show what happened before the cradh
vocal shard
LMAO same thing I was saying
why are you still on windows 7?
@rancid flame
vocal shard
Wait what ._. Someone still using Windows 7?
warped rain
For the average person, that doesn't mean anything
vocal shard
Germany has to pay a lot of many to keep it updated
Same with people who wants to keep the software updated
atomic tree
dont you love it when your pc's mic doesnt work
languid beacon
So yesterday I spent my first actual long session on Quest version of VRChat. It’s not bad at all? I feel like the render resolution is not native though that was the only thing that bugged me.
meager solstice
@languid beacon was that with or without link cable?
versed jackal
I remember hating the idea of updating to windows 10. I still hate it because regardless how much i take care of my mics, they stop working on my pc. Built in mic was dead on arrival.
real plover
RIP mic
rigid crescent
What does that have to do with Windows 10
versed jackal
No idea because i bought several mics and they eventually stop working for some reason
Probably a product faulty or something but it’s getting to a point where i just don’t see any point in getting a new one anymore
meager solstice
U buying shit mics?
versed jackal
I even tell the people who try to help me in getting ones they recommended to not waste their money on me
Nah fam
versed jackal
Most of the ones i have did work when i started using them
meager solstice
R they usb mics or port mics?
versed jackal
The recent one i have lasted for a few months
Some were usb and the recent ones i tried were port
icy jungle
languid beacon
Without
@meager solstice
I have not yet used VRChat with oculus link as I don’t have the cable
meager solstice
I mean u just need a usb type c, not the official cable itself I believe
languid beacon
You need a fairly high bandwidth one. The one that is used to charge it does not work
meager solstice
understandable
languid beacon
I mostly got it for quest dev tho I have pcvr headset for pc VRChat
versed jackal
Yes 3.5 mm jack
languid beacon
I feel like more could be done to make Pc avatars quest compatable on the fly, even if it means sold white texturing it’s better than the robot
prisma saffron
hi
real plover
hoi
prisma saffron
😛
real plover
what?
prisma saffron
: p
real plover
put that tongue back where it belongs sir
real plover
that's one way to get the virus
vocal shard
._. wut
prisma saffron
well at least I'm not in public
real plover
this...is a public discord server
prisma saffron
i mean i'm not outside
broken plover
yes you are
real plover
good, that's a dangerous place to be
prisma saffron
ya
broken plover
there are just walls around you
broken plover
10
prisma saffron
?
broken plover
windows 10
broken plover
yes I am a 🤡
frail star
broken plover
No I play vrchat without steam and I totally dont use Steamvr 🤡
real plover
prisma saffron
oh Im useing it rn
marble cedar
real plover
checking ones disc profile should be step one
prisma saffron
ACK
real plover
yes
craggy plaza
are there any issues with connecting to vrchat instances for anyone atm?
real plover
not had any issues at all myself
pure hemlock
So VRChat is basically open source now eh
vocal shard
hello ^-^ i need help with vrchat i am using it on pc (not vr version ) and i cant hear anyone ! my pc volume is ok my game voice volume is ok but i still cannot hear if someone can help me i will be very happy ^-^
umbral reef
@pure hemlock How do you mean?
pure hemlock
I ran into quite a few people today who have written custom mods for the game that said the game is basically open source now
They were saying it's really easy to get into and build mods :/
umbral reef
Thats not how open source works
pure hemlock
Yah no shit I am not speaking literally
umbral reef
But this games version by now is fairly mapped out so far i know
pure hemlock
I saw some interesting mods tbh
But it's sad that apparently it's really easy to get into vrchat modding and every teenager with basic programming skills can make some stupid mods
umbral reef
Applies to most games if we are honest
Just that most of that stuff is local and not server stuff
But i got no idea what they can show so 🤷♂️
Kinda taking guesses
pure hemlock
The ones I saw in murder today were... One guy had a mod that would just kill someone repeatedly every second which locks you from using your menu that he built himself. Another had one that just took one detective room knife and it just floated around his head rotating and spinning and stuff. Another one deleted all the hitboxes in murder effectively killing the game entirely.
All custom built by each of them
Not to mention the normal script kidies using noclip mods and teleport mods plagueing the game
I haven't been playing murder for like 2-3 months and I am sad to see it's even worse than before
Most of the issues come from the peer to peer networking to be honest. Reminds me of some of the games I played as a teenager that had p2p and the crazy exploits people came up with
vocal shard
It takes about 5 minutes to set up and download 30+ mods into VRChat and start playing right away. It sucks because so many people's experiences in VRChat are ruined because of crashers and people cheating in the games...etc.
fallow cosmos
That's why you only turn on shaders, voice, and avatar for every rank. It sucks cause it's usually the known or trusted users who are using the crashers.
real plover
@pure hemlock time to do murder with friends to avoid that stuff. sadly...i love murder ._.
rigid crescent
i didnt think people actually liked murder, they just played it
real plover
i meeeean... >.>
no one can hear my slightly crazy giggle as i chase people...thankfully~
devout berry
Here I can see how small chunk of VRChat I have seen yet. Never heard of murder. I know just werewolf from Nagzz's old videos.
real plover
a lot more out there to explore
i for one love Murder and "Steel and Gold", sadly the latter have died out a bit
devout berry
But maybe murder was in one of the videos - I remember Nagzz playing hide and seek on a map where one player was running around with green dripping knife that "killed" people.
real plover
i have that hide and seek map on my favs, bit glitchy as there's plenty of spots where you can literally fall through the map or hide inside walls
devout berry
LOL!
real plover
yeeeeah...i usually visit the other hide and seek map. don't really fancy it as people run away which kinda defeat the purpose of "hide and seek" xD
devout berry
Falling trough map is glitch, but hiding in the walls is just unfair!
real plover
yeup
devout berry
Would be pretty funny to patch it up, that it kills you if you hide in the wall for some time. Imagine the surprise - you knew you could do it -> doing it for example for ten sec. BOOM! Instant death!
real plover
or just put down a wall with the same "kill" feature as the knife. touch the wall behind the wall and you die
devout berry
Yep.
Maybe JFF give the cheaters more powerful jumpscare! Something nastier as "prize" for cheating! 🤣
real plover
xD
devout berry
When Udon comes, it could be even more fun to proof maps against game breakers - writing anti cheats in Udon could be maybe possible.
real plover
maybeh maybeh
devout berry
You know what is annoying? We will be having midterms at the time VKET 4 is live. And I wanted to go have a look. I really like the worlds they come up with. Really a lot of work is put in just a short time event. It is a little mind boggling.
real plover
go do it
devout berry
I will. I am going to find at least hour a day to explore!
Btw, almost every time I talk to friends about VRChat, usually I mention VKET, because that is not just a expo, that is an experience! I hope they are going to archive this one same as 2 and 3.
real plover
never heard of VKET plz don't lynch me
devout berry
No prob.
If you are curious, I have found out you can see people's play lists - just look on mine - I have one, that covers the archives of VKET 2 and 3.
I will just have to make it public on my profile.
vocal shard
the vr avatar i just made wont let my arms stretch all the way out, why
devout berry
Maybe people in #avatars-2-general could help you better - that channel is dedicated to avatar making.
devout berry
@vocal shard Be ready to wait a while - development channels are less active than #vrchat-general-1 , #vrchat-general-2 and #general-media . + depending on day time, the response is extra slow.
vocal shard
ah
fleet pumice
hello
real plover
le hoi
fleet pumice
how're you
real plover
im goodie, yourself?
real plover
that's goodie~
real plover
you trying to log in?
fleet pumice
no, i can't access any world
real plover
desktop or vr?
fleet pumice
desktop
real plover
been ages since i had that error, just for the heck of it, you have restarted VRC aye?
real plover
tried restarting the PC itself?
real plover
err, well im at loss. give #vrchat-support a go
fleet pumice
thank you for your response, you're a sweetheart:)
real plover
hope the problem gets solved~
keen marsh
hello
real plover
greetings 
and good night 
polar bone
So I just used vrchat for a school online learning group meeting
It was amazin
sterile ingot
School classes will now be held in VR to deal with the quarantine.
vocal shard
What are some cool worlds to visit for games?
rigid crescent
Spyfall is a cool one if youve got a group
storm stag
Why is VRC doing this.
Like my internet is having a hard time connecting through the server or someting. Like it's only using a portion of bites.
rigid crescent
oh youre using wifi, thats probably it
unless this is just a new issue and youve always used wifi
storm stag
I've had this issue since 2 days ago.
Also same with last year I also had this issue before.
It's not using my internet's full capacity speed.
rigid crescent
could be that you arent getting a strong enough connection due to being on wifi
VRC needs a pretty decent one
storm stag
Yeh but it wasn't like this before, usually my work arounds is Restarting my PC and/or router.
Which usually works. And playing VRC without opening steam.
cold talon
nya
rich dove
Waves Nervously Hai
cold talon
hello
rich dove
Well hey!
cold talon
i like hugs
rigid crescent
if a hardwired connection is possible i'd go for that
rich dove
@cold talon Hugs
cold talon
hugs back
agile hound
what version of unity do i need?
ruby needle
2017.4.28f1
agile hound
kay thanks
short charm
Can anybody help me I'm looking for a specific avatar that I was unable to clone from someone and I can't find it 😩
sterile ingot
Are you sure the avatar was public?
short charm
It was a female avatar, white hair, black thigh highs and black rollerskates. I'm basically just looking for a female avatar with rollerskates on though lol
sterile ingot
Did you look for a roller ring world, or roller derby, or things like that?
agile hound
who uses voice mod here?
short charm
Yea I can't find it that's why I'm asking here 😆
agile hound
do you happen to know how to make a female voice
short charm
I just don't know where to look there are so many avatar world's
sterile ingot
There's already a male to female rigging.
agile hound
nah i mean for a created voice of my own
short charm
Hoping maybe someone here has seen it and could help me find it
sterile ingot
No idea how. Like I said, there's already a set up for one so if I wanted to have a female voice that is how I'd do that.
rigid crescent
Don't waste your time, nothing you do with voicemod will sound good or convincing
sterile ingot
Negative ninny again.
rigid crescent
Being realistic.
sterile ingot
You're being abrasive and annoying.
rigid crescent
It takes more than a cheap voice modulator to do anything even remotely convincing
Often it just annoys people because it sounds bad
sterile ingot
Your opinion seriously means shit to me Mic. Shut the fuck up.
rigid crescent
It's fine if you don't know anything about the software, no need to get upset. It's best for "silly" voices like robots or aliens and whatnot
sterile ingot
Almost every time I am on here and you interject, it's something along the lines of, "That sucks / that's stupid".
You're annoying as fuck.
You're not helpful, stop.
rigid crescent
It's just the truth. Not my fault people often come up with poor ideas.
sterile ingot
So says you. Now kindly fuck off.
rigid crescent
It's pretty well known that voicemod is far from great software.
sterile ingot
I think it's pretty well known your opinions are not warranted.
rigid crescent
Sure they are, as much as anyone else's.
vocal shard
The best way to do things if you are going to use a voice changer is just use it to help the voice just a little bit, but try to get as close as you can naturally. Too many people rely completely on the voice changer and it is super easy to pick up on and people get called out and tease for it
rigid crescent
Takes lots of practice to git gud 👌
pulsar trench
Hello all ^-^
vocal shard
Heya
sterile ingot
I am confident in how I am using the voice changer.
vocal shard
Cool
pulsar trench
Anyone know how to get a reflection in VRchat? I made an avi in Vroid but when i use a mirror there is no reflection
rigid crescent
damn porter really popularizing vroid, good on em
pulsar trench
lol is Vroid bad?
rigid crescent
No it's good
sterile ingot
Whenever I end up using the voice mod, most often people compliment it.
rigid crescent
It just went under the radar til recently
sterile ingot
I learned using auto tune though is a no-no.