#vrchat-general-2 | VRChat | Page 817

quick kayak May 23, 2019, 8:05 PM

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Yeah, I know someone who swings his arms around his back, going back and forth.

worthy oracle May 23, 2019, 8:05 PM

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but yeah if you guys are interested in some feedback from a vive user go check out that link

covert linden May 23, 2019, 8:05 PM

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I met a guy yesterday ingame with it, he can put his hands on his face and all the way behind him

worthy oracle May 23, 2019, 8:05 PM

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found the vid intuhresting

covert linden May 23, 2019, 8:06 PM

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You can do swinging even on the wmr thanks to the imu

quick kayak May 23, 2019, 8:06 PM

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cable is a bit longer on the S too.

worthy oracle May 23, 2019, 8:06 PM

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the passthrough seems LITTY

quick kayak May 23, 2019, 8:06 PM

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Yeazh, I like that

covert linden May 23, 2019, 8:06 PM

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CreeperToday at 7:37 PM
First off, IPD adjustment is way better.
Secondly, I can actually use my glasses with it
Third, Headphones fit snugly on it
Fourth, The headset itself is cozy as heck
Fifth, The tracking's way better than i thought it'd be, and i can actually reach behind myself a bit.
Sixth, Guardian. It's so great because i press a button, and bam i can see my room, and walk around.
Seventh, Controllers feel great and natural, unlike with the vive controllers where i feel like i'm holding two big sticks
8th, Don't even notice the Refresh rate change from 90 to 80, It still feels smooth and cozy.
And finally, No base stations to set up.

worthy oracle May 23, 2019, 8:06 PM

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that virtual desktop but that’s on most vr headsets

covert linden May 23, 2019, 8:06 PM

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Thats from the guy I met who owns the vive and got the oculus S

worthy oracle May 23, 2019, 8:07 PM

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people are abandoning vive for rift s

covert linden May 23, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Yeah, thats what he did

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First thing he said was "wow I can actually read!"

worthy oracle May 23, 2019, 8:07 PM

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and do you guys remember when the trailer came out? everyone hated on it so much lmfao

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gg oculus

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they are for the consumers with a good price and good choice

languid beacon May 23, 2019, 8:08 PM

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People with quests, what % of vrc avatars can you see roughly?

covert linden May 23, 2019, 8:08 PM

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Id ask compatible

quick kayak May 23, 2019, 8:10 PM

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Rea, why you making me get a Rift S lol

kind wedge May 23, 2019, 8:10 PM

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I'd say I can see 1 in ever 5 avatars at the moment, but I haven't been it a whole lot of public worlds. Mostly hanging with friends. Also, keep in mind the quest has been out for two days. You aren't going to see a ton of content for it on VRChat yet lol

quick kayak May 23, 2019, 8:11 PM

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So much positive talk makes me really want it xD

covert linden May 23, 2019, 8:11 PM

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Cuz I want one bad too. Im selling my rift for it

kind wedge May 23, 2019, 8:11 PM

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VRChat took a few years before it had the current amount of avatars to choose from

quick kayak May 23, 2019, 8:11 PM

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I just posted I'm selling mine on some sites.

kind wedge May 23, 2019, 8:11 PM

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The quest version of VRC is essentially starting from zero regarding content. Give it some time.

quick kayak May 23, 2019, 8:12 PM

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Someone with a quest said he went to the box and it has a load of players, so it was bad.

covert linden May 23, 2019, 8:12 PM

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Im planning too soon. Just waiting to see if I can hear back on the person who wants it for 450

quick kayak May 23, 2019, 8:12 PM

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I put mine up for $400, got a 3rd sensor and a vr cover, so it's definitely worth it.

languid beacon May 23, 2019, 8:13 PM

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I can content. I mostly just want to be using quest standing around vrc friends help coax them into having android builds : D

quick kayak May 23, 2019, 8:13 PM

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Quest has active cooling, I wonder if people will find a way to overlock, regardless of how much they can get away with.

covert linden May 23, 2019, 8:14 PM

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It already is overclocked is it not

quick kayak May 23, 2019, 8:14 PM

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Then again, games will be pretty much optimized for it, so there would be no need.

languid beacon May 23, 2019, 8:14 PM

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Yeah it’s basically a console

quick kayak May 23, 2019, 8:14 PM

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I just see the word android and think exploits lol.

covert linden May 23, 2019, 8:14 PM

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Mine woud be 450$ for a NEVER before used brand new out of the box rift, but tje 450 is canadian dollar

languid beacon May 23, 2019, 8:15 PM

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What benefit is there to over clocking a platform where everyone has the exact same hardware and the content was specifically meant for your device

quick kayak May 23, 2019, 8:15 PM

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I thought out loud lol then logic slapped me in the back of my head.

languid beacon May 23, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Heh

quick kayak May 23, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Right when I hit enter, I was like wait no... lol

covert linden May 23, 2019, 8:17 PM

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Im saving up for my new pc too so the rift s has to wait. I wanna get it off amazon so im waiting till sales on amazons pickup again

languid beacon May 23, 2019, 8:18 PM

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To be fair you could get faster loading times in single player games but that’s about the only time you’d see any benifit

quick kayak May 23, 2019, 8:20 PM

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Doesn't warrant the lower battery life tbh.

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Screen is oled, so they'll enjoy the pure black loading screens lol.

deep otter May 23, 2019, 8:22 PM

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i finally ranked up into being a blue user

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can upload some stuff now

vocal shard May 23, 2019, 8:23 PM

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Pentile OLED uses less power than LCD. So that may have been a design choice to help a little bit with the battery

quick kayak May 23, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Yeah, it does use less power overall.

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A lot of people questioned why the Quest used oled and the S didn't, but I guess they didn't know that fact.

indigo inlet May 23, 2019, 8:44 PM

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hello

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nvm

light river May 23, 2019, 8:46 PM

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Has there been a comparison between the Rift S and the higher end WMR headsets?

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I have the samsung odyssey but i’m really not sure it’s worth upgrading

quick kayak May 23, 2019, 8:47 PM

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All WMR are basically the same, same shitty software, Rift S is the new king of IOT.

vocal shard May 23, 2019, 8:48 PM

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Some on Reddit who have the Odyssey+ and Rift S have compared

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Basically, odyssey+ is still much better visually, but everywhere else the Rift S is better and they prefer it

heavy dawn May 23, 2019, 8:48 PM

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compares Jamie's pfp's hair to the green of Sonic's eyes in that movie trailer

vocal shard May 23, 2019, 8:49 PM

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CirnoREEE

heavy dawn May 23, 2019, 8:49 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/green-super-green-choke-fifth-element-gif-5490561

ruby needle May 23, 2019, 8:49 PM

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cirHuh

light river May 23, 2019, 8:49 PM

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I see, i’m thinking about giving away the odyssey to a friend and buying a rift S

heavy dawn May 23, 2019, 8:49 PM

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Heh... they made Sonic's eyes neon green so much so that it doesn't colour match the live action BGs.

vocal shard May 23, 2019, 8:50 PM

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Cool
I have an odyssey and might do the same

covert linden May 23, 2019, 8:50 PM

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Im selling my rift for the S

vocal shard May 23, 2019, 8:50 PM

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I just hope the Oculus software runs better now. My rift seems to run much worse than my wmr in some cases

heavy dawn May 23, 2019, 8:50 PM

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odyssey was a WMR? Neat.

ruby needle May 23, 2019, 8:51 PM

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Okay I'll trade my S key for your rift

heavy dawn May 23, 2019, 8:51 PM

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That's a pretty good gift to a friend. Also a good way to get a freind in VRC with you 😄

vocal shard May 23, 2019, 8:51 PM

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Yeah odyssey is wmr with Vive pro screens

covert linden May 23, 2019, 8:51 PM

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Not your s key the oculus rift S u baguette

ruby needle May 23, 2019, 8:51 PM

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Excuse me, wtf cirREE

vocal shard May 23, 2019, 8:51 PM

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I'm lost now

ruby needle May 23, 2019, 8:51 PM

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That's not what was in the offer cirREE

heavy dawn May 23, 2019, 8:51 PM

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Vive regular screens have pretty low resolution hexagonal pixels. But I can ignore that after about a minute or two of playing. Better res would be nice though.

covert linden May 23, 2019, 8:51 PM

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sneezes on fpaul

ruby needle May 23, 2019, 8:52 PM

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Ban incommig

heavy dawn May 23, 2019, 8:52 PM

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I hate when a display uses non square pixels. 😐

covert linden May 23, 2019, 8:52 PM

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NUU

uncut gorge May 23, 2019, 9:09 PM

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they aren't hexagonal, they are just in a weird arrangement

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https://i.imgur.com/UJTFoUR.png

vocal shard May 23, 2019, 9:22 PM

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does anyone know why vrchat keeps using only 2 mb/s to download worlds and stuff, even though I got 10 mb/s max ?

uncut gorge May 23, 2019, 9:25 PM

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Depends on a lot of factors. I typically download pretty fast from VRChat servers, but sometimes it'll be slow.

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could be anything on your end, their end, or anywhere in between

vocal shard May 23, 2019, 9:27 PM

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a guy told me could be hdd writing speed so i guess its that, even though avatars load kinda slow aswell ~ not sure if that has to do with hdd aswell

uncut gorge May 23, 2019, 9:33 PM

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they are temporarily cached on your hdd so maybe

compact axle May 23, 2019, 9:49 PM

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is it very common that questions or informations get ignored in support tickets?

rigid crescent May 23, 2019, 9:51 PM

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How long has it been

compact axle May 23, 2019, 9:53 PM

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it got answered in like 4 days but it feels like it was a weird copy and paste answer that i got

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and that answer had nothing to do with my problem

rigid crescent May 23, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Sounds about right lol

compact axle May 23, 2019, 9:54 PM

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so it is common yes? lol

rigid crescent May 23, 2019, 9:54 PM

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Yeah I thought you just meant flat out not replied to lol

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It's a gamble from what I've seen of friends sending in tickets. Hope you get the good mods basically

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Could try sending it again I guess

compact axle May 23, 2019, 9:58 PM

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community answered my question in the end but still.. i was actually talking about the latest update and even typed the current version i was on in bold letters and basically got told to try it on the newest update (same version i already told them in my ticket that i was having issues with)

rigid crescent May 23, 2019, 9:59 PM

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LOL

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Guess just because the emails are "guaranteed to be read" doesn't mean they'll be read well lol

desert stratus May 23, 2019, 10:50 PM

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motd: remember to update ur sdk everyone

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yes, im talking to you, mr/ms "my last sdk version is from march"

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i used to be you five seconds ago, but i am now a changed man

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and you can be too

idle elm May 23, 2019, 11:01 PM

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Good advice 👍

languid beacon May 23, 2019, 11:02 PM

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Let me see pedestal pictures in unity pls

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Juggling uuids is a hassle

tribal oxide May 23, 2019, 11:04 PM

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Henlo

languid beacon May 23, 2019, 11:10 PM

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So I’m hearing a friend has already gotten the PC version of VRChat to run on a quest

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Asking him for the details

tribal oxide May 23, 2019, 11:30 PM

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Fun

placid kettle May 23, 2019, 11:37 PM

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Are there any plans to fix the incredibly laggy social menu? It's like, 10 minutes behind at any given point

ruby burrow May 23, 2019, 11:38 PM

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@languid beacon They're streaming it. There's some odd third party hack using regular router wifi.

languid beacon May 23, 2019, 11:38 PM

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Oh I wonder if latency would be an issue

ruby burrow May 23, 2019, 11:38 PM

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Yeah, far as I've heard the obvious drawback is substantial latency.

languid beacon May 23, 2019, 11:38 PM

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Whoop whoop

ruby burrow May 23, 2019, 11:39 PM

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Since it's far from a true VR ready wifi solution.

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Or at least, I very much assume they're streaming it, just based on having heard about this thing. Obviously I don't know the person you're talking about. ^ ^;

swift thicket May 23, 2019, 11:44 PM

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hello

vocal shard May 23, 2019, 11:48 PM

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alright guys, i think the meme is dead

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we need to make glowy tatooed tda avatars bannable

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literally worse than knuckles

swift thicket May 23, 2019, 11:52 PM

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haha

languid beacon May 23, 2019, 11:55 PM

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I hear all this talk of TDA I wouldn’t know it if I saw it though

swift thicket May 23, 2019, 11:56 PM

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(●￣(工)￣●)

languid beacon May 23, 2019, 11:56 PM

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Hm I see so that’s what it looks like

swift thicket May 23, 2019, 11:57 PM

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what

modest fox May 24, 2019, 12:28 AM

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@languid beacon I'd like to know how they managed to run the PC version on the quest, I'm fairly sure they connected via broadcast from PC and run the launch code from the webpage or steam icon.

languid beacon May 24, 2019, 12:34 AM

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Uh as they said above they were just streaming it with Vridge

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So false alarm I’m afraid

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But it hasn’t even been out a week yet, I’m sure something will happen. Rift S is begging to be replaced with a modded Quest

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As mean as that is it’s gonna happen

inner cape May 24, 2019, 12:40 AM

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I missed the quest release day but still, holy crap theres a lot of quest users

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I didn't expect to see so many

languid beacon May 24, 2019, 12:41 AM

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There’s even more then release day actually

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It’s getting more

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Not everyone checked out vrchat day one

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!online

floral flaxBOT May 24, 2019, 12:42 AM

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There are 5451 users in VRChat currently

inner cape May 24, 2019, 12:42 AM

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so many poor quest users struggling to walk around and not having a single clue as to what is going on

languid beacon May 24, 2019, 12:42 AM

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We just need more content so they stick :p

frigid imp May 24, 2019, 12:42 AM

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same thing as SL content will keep them there

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well draw interest

languid beacon May 24, 2019, 12:43 AM

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Quest compatable stuff is a little lacking

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Lots of people thinking visimes and custom animations aren’t permitted

inner cape May 24, 2019, 12:44 AM

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I didn't even realise there will be so many of them

languid beacon May 24, 2019, 12:44 AM

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Well I expect quest to be the next Wii, so

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There’s a lot more console gamers than pc gamers people don’t realize that

inner cape May 24, 2019, 12:45 AM

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im surprised

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I underestimated them

languid beacon May 24, 2019, 12:46 AM

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If the content exists, Pc could be outnumbered at some point

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This is just the first week

inner cape May 24, 2019, 12:46 AM

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whaa

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no way

frigid imp May 24, 2019, 12:46 AM

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ready player one here we come!!

languid beacon May 24, 2019, 12:46 AM

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!online

floral flaxBOT May 24, 2019, 12:46 AM

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There are 5388 users in VRChat currently

inner cape May 24, 2019, 12:47 AM

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online count would nearly double then

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and right now it's not that big

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even for PC only times, it's the usual number

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6-5k on peak, 4-3k in little less active hours

languid beacon May 24, 2019, 12:48 AM

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Yeah but we’ve been Pc only

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PCVR is gonna end up being niche

inner cape May 24, 2019, 12:49 AM

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I dunno about that one chief

languid beacon May 24, 2019, 12:49 AM

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How many people do you think owned a Wii?

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I expect those numbers from Oculus Quest this Christmas.

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This will be THE gift of Xmas 2019, quote me.

inner cape May 24, 2019, 12:51 AM

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you damn lizard

frigid imp May 24, 2019, 12:51 AM

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November 28, 2006, Nintendo reported that it had sold over 600,000 consoles in the first eight days of launch in the Americas

inner cape May 24, 2019, 12:51 AM

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working for zuck

frigid imp May 24, 2019, 12:52 AM

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People waited for hours and hours, there was also a severe shortage

languid beacon May 24, 2019, 12:53 AM

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Yes Nintendo had decades of brand recognition. Oculus Is a mystery company to most people

frigid imp May 24, 2019, 12:53 AM

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But then they decided to release the Wii U... and well we know how that went

languid beacon May 24, 2019, 12:53 AM

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So that initial burst has to be discounted

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 12:53 AM

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!online

floral flaxBOT May 24, 2019, 12:53 AM

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There are 5542 users in VRChat currently

desert stratus May 24, 2019, 12:54 AM

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there just seems to be a lot of people getting vr rn in general

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not just quest users but normal people, likely due to the sales of incoming headsets

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met a guy in game just now who started using his vive today

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groovy shit uwu

frigid imp May 24, 2019, 12:55 AM

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back to studying for me

languid beacon May 24, 2019, 12:55 AM

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The biggest bumps are at Christmas

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And then all of January

unborn dune May 24, 2019, 12:59 AM

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See friend that I havent seen in a while is on

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join to say hi

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3)black screen and connection time out

desert stratus May 24, 2019, 1:00 AM

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thats the VRChat experience

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 1:00 AM

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vrchat exp-wtf

desert stratus May 24, 2019, 1:00 AM

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👈 😎 👈

unborn dune May 24, 2019, 1:00 AM

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yup

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 1:00 AM

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ya beat me

desert stratus May 24, 2019, 1:00 AM

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uwU

unborn dune May 24, 2019, 1:00 AM

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hey but lets focus on quest

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lets try to implement this feature that we barely tested

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 1:01 AM

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"barely tested "you mean like since befroe december lol

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I mean it doesn't work, but it was tested extensively

sweet nebula May 24, 2019, 1:01 AM

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This post from #vrchat-general-1 was flooded out by a large wall of text/spam from another user, so I'm reposting here for added exposure:

Do we have any Linux via Proton VRChat players in here? I'm trying to make a full switch from Windows to Manjaro Linux soon, and would like to use the Index once I swap (since that has been confirmed to have Linux support).

Also, the disconnect/timeout loop thing is a bug thats being worked on atm. I emailed support and got that response back.

unborn dune May 24, 2019, 1:01 AM

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i was under the impression the beta was really short

coarse galleon May 24, 2019, 1:02 AM

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hey hey

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 1:02 AM

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The open beta was, the closed beta was, at the one of the longest, or the longest i forget which

unborn dune May 24, 2019, 1:02 AM

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oh i see

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 1:03 AM

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But something tells me a lot of this ik stuff wouldn't evne be detected in an open beta, minus maybe the desktop neck thing, because only a few dozen people even bother with the beta

unborn dune May 24, 2019, 1:03 AM

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hmmm

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 1:03 AM

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So you're basically just testing the impact on the servers of a handful of people with networked IK vs thousands of players at once

unborn dune May 24, 2019, 1:04 AM

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i suppose you are correct. but i mean doesnt that mean that the closed beta was really successful?

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or was it released as a crap shoot

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 1:05 AM

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Well it means it worked in closed beta, or it didn't work in closed beta and they released it anyway

unborn dune May 24, 2019, 1:05 AM

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im gonna go with option #2

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 1:05 AM

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I mean it's not really fair to assume either lol

unborn dune May 24, 2019, 1:05 AM

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but thats probably because im frustrated

inner cape May 24, 2019, 1:06 AM

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lul

unborn dune May 24, 2019, 1:06 AM

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i just wanna hang with friends

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i feel like im missing out on stuff

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sounds silly i know

inner cape May 24, 2019, 1:07 AM

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it doesn't

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 1:07 AM

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pretty reasonable

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Xiexe mentioned that the test before live worked so, I guess that's all we have to go off of?

boreal kelp May 24, 2019, 1:37 AM

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So I got done with making walking animations.. and now I've got the issue of legs clipping through skirt while crouching..

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Tried to make a custom crouch animation but the skirt bones are not cooperating with me well

covert linden May 24, 2019, 2:24 AM

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In vrchag clipping is almost impossible to avoid

drowsy sapphire May 24, 2019, 2:43 AM

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Throwing a house party in vrchat today .... Feel free to join me
Lobby world is : The house in sunny day #95707 , pls request a inv to join the lobby.. thanks and enjoy (My username is MonteDWolf d6b1 if you cannot find the lobby) @everyone

deep otter May 24, 2019, 2:48 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/F2Lx8Y upgrading from FX8350 CPU, mobo, and ram, is this a good deal for a budget of $400

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And will that CPU bottleneck my Gtx 1070

covert linden May 24, 2019, 2:56 AM

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whyre u upgrading to the i3. Didnt fpaul already give u a good list

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with the ryzen 2600...

deep otter May 24, 2019, 3:00 AM

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I lost it

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Xd

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Also this i3 is faster than that ryzen

covert linden May 24, 2019, 3:02 AM

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if youre going for intel at least get the i5 series lol

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and no its not

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https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i3-8350K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-2600/3935vs3955
Yes the first one says 3%, but scroll down, every single other one, ryzen is on top of

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also fpauls had the ryzen 2700 actually

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pmxRr6
Found fpauls list rather easy.

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if you need a price lower thigny go with the 2600, which is indeed better than the i3 you sent, according to that benchmark (scroll down) @deep otter

deep otter May 24, 2019, 3:07 AM

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Oh ok

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👌

boreal kelp May 24, 2019, 3:23 AM

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I've seen a Felix Argyle avatar with no skirt clipping and only a few custom animations. Does it have to do with dynamic bones or something

fresh tiger May 24, 2019, 3:25 AM

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Reminder that the Quest is the end of VRChat for Vive, expect Zuckerberg to make it oculus only

atomic tusk May 24, 2019, 3:57 AM

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I don't think the devs would take a risk of killing the game completely

rain isle May 24, 2019, 3:59 AM

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huh, keep getting black screen timed out when joining worlds

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doing check integrity of gamefiles seemed to fix it though may have been coincdience

lunar shell May 24, 2019, 5:57 AM

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@fresh tiger That won't happen. If most Quest users don't have a gaming PC, who's going to make all the avatars and worlds then?

meager solstice May 24, 2019, 6:08 AM

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U don’t need a gaming pc to make models/worlds @lunar shell

lunar shell May 24, 2019, 6:09 AM

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You need a pc to run Unity don't you?

meager solstice May 24, 2019, 6:10 AM

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U said a “gaming pc”

lunar shell May 24, 2019, 6:10 AM

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Ok good pc.

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But you aren't going to be able to model very well on a potato.

meager solstice May 24, 2019, 6:11 AM

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I mean u would be surprised

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People use blender/unity all the time on their potato laptops

lunar shell May 24, 2019, 6:12 AM

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Either way the comment earlier about Facebook is off.

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And most people creating things on vrchat own gaming pcs.

umbral reef May 24, 2019, 6:16 AM

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We already have the problem that barely any people make avatars
And if they do it's just uploading pre made things or small edits. The amount that makes properly optimized original stuff is really low.

lunar shell May 24, 2019, 6:17 AM

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I see a lot of people with customized avatars.

umbral reef May 24, 2019, 6:18 AM

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Those are just a download, throw into blender, have a program do 99% of the work and throw it into unity where you edit a material or two and tadaa

placid zealot May 24, 2019, 6:19 AM

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Majority is Frankensteined mmd models.

umbral reef May 24, 2019, 6:19 AM

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That also

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Who doesn't enjoy a badly connected, wrongly weightpainted kitbash

placid zealot May 24, 2019, 6:20 AM

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Not that I mind, it's just getting really stale often seeing the same things over and over.

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Ditto lol

umbral reef May 24, 2019, 6:22 AM

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I love it when those type of avatars have atleast some polish or proper animations.
Most are really just the same base, different variations of some clothes with Neko ears and a few face animations.

meager solstice May 24, 2019, 6:22 AM

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Yeah usually that’s how it goes

umbral reef May 24, 2019, 6:23 AM

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At least the quest will be safe from this.. for now

meager solstice May 24, 2019, 6:23 AM

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Now really

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U get a model and decimate it to death and boom quest ready

placid zealot May 24, 2019, 6:23 AM

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Oh yeah there's definitely some good looking models of that variety out there. It's just seeing a million different shimakaze with another head pasted on it for example 🤷

umbral reef May 24, 2019, 6:23 AM

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Just don't use a mmd

meager solstice May 24, 2019, 6:24 AM

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I’m gonna see if I can make a quest model,

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Without decimation

umbral reef May 24, 2019, 6:26 AM

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There are also tools to 'redo' the poly's

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Just can't think of the name but it's perfect to reduce the amount an avatar needs

coarse anchor May 24, 2019, 6:26 AM

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Why complain a out people enjoying models like that

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I don't judge any model choise (unless it's the cursed knuckles from a country which name shouldn't be named)

umbral reef May 24, 2019, 6:27 AM

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We never said it's bad. Just that it's not original and what most do.

coarse anchor May 24, 2019, 6:27 AM

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Can you model from scratch?

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I don't think it's as easy as some make it out to be

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Some just want a nice looking model which some features they feel they want on it

meager solstice May 24, 2019, 6:28 AM

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No one said it was easy that’s why people frankstein models together

rough flax May 24, 2019, 6:29 AM

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vrpill

coarse anchor May 24, 2019, 6:29 AM

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I don't mind seeing the same models everywhere, besides who goes into Pubs anymore

meager solstice May 24, 2019, 6:29 AM

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y not go into pubs

coarse anchor May 24, 2019, 6:30 AM

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Pubs are pretty aids 90% of the time

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I like my game to not crash and my avatars to not be joinked

meager solstice May 24, 2019, 6:31 AM

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Haven’t been crashed in a while, haven’t seen a model stealer in a while

coarse anchor May 24, 2019, 6:31 AM

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Maybe not direct crashes but hugely optimized models whit 500dynamic bones

meager solstice May 24, 2019, 6:32 AM

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I feel like they added a dynamic bone limiter to VRChat or am I wrong?

coarse anchor May 24, 2019, 6:33 AM

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They did but it broke most of the dynamic bo es of my models which makes me sad

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I only had like 4dynamic bones at best whit 0 colliders

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 6:34 AM

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Any one know how much you have to play to get privs on uploadfing skins?

eager python May 24, 2019, 6:34 AM

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hello all

tall ingot May 24, 2019, 6:36 AM

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How much trouble can you get in for causing someone's pc to blue screen? I know someone who claims they can burn other people's gpu.

coarse anchor May 24, 2019, 6:36 AM

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Get a slap on the hand and log I to a different account through a vPN

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From what know and seen

meager solstice May 24, 2019, 6:39 AM

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@tall ingot I mean it’s impossible to harm a pc through vrchat

coarse anchor May 24, 2019, 6:40 AM

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It's not impossible

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VRChat is waving your IP around whit no protection

meager solstice May 24, 2019, 6:40 AM

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What does an ip have to do with destroying a gpu

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🤔

coarse anchor May 24, 2019, 6:41 AM

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You said its impossible to harm a PC through vrchat"

meager solstice May 24, 2019, 6:41 AM

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Okay but what can u do with an ip to harm a pc

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What ddos?

coarse anchor May 24, 2019, 6:41 AM

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Enough, ddos as an example

meager solstice May 24, 2019, 6:42 AM

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ddos isn’t harming a pc

coarse anchor May 24, 2019, 6:42 AM

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Im no PC genius ut I woudnt want people to just get their hands o my IP

umbral reef May 24, 2019, 6:42 AM

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Ow no they have an ip
Just like the trillion of websites and services online or any game with a p2p prosuct

coarse anchor May 24, 2019, 6:42 AM

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And I think that's a reasonable thought

umbral reef May 24, 2019, 6:42 AM

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Product*

meager solstice May 24, 2019, 6:43 AM

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Csgo waves ur ip around, Minecraft does the same thing........ with hardly no protection. Getting an ip is nothing

coarse anchor May 24, 2019, 6:43 AM

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Well then they should make it saver

umbral reef May 24, 2019, 6:43 AM

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Used Skype? People got ya ip. Visitors an forum? Congrats they got it. Ever used a game with voice? Congrats again

coarse anchor May 24, 2019, 6:43 AM

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Just because some games don't make safety in it doesn't excuse anyone else

meager solstice May 24, 2019, 6:43 AM

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But an ip means nothing

placid zealot May 24, 2019, 6:44 AM

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We weren't complaining about models like that. It is hard but some more effort here and there goes along way as well as originality. There's definitely nice models out there made from pre-made parts. So I don't mind at all 🤷

umbral reef May 24, 2019, 6:44 AM

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Also doing an ddos ain't cheap and a restart of a router can mitigate it fully

meager solstice May 24, 2019, 6:44 AM

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they cracked down on pay to ddos sites

coarse anchor May 24, 2019, 6:44 AM

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That still doesn't excuse it

meager solstice May 24, 2019, 6:45 AM

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So what can u do with an ip? Go to someone’s house and beat them up?

placid zealot May 24, 2019, 6:45 AM

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Any website or any apps and things you've ever used have your ip

meager solstice May 24, 2019, 6:46 AM

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Unplug ur router and boom new ip

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Or call ur internet provider

coarse anchor May 24, 2019, 6:46 AM

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Yes websites but the user of said service shouldn't be able to get your IP as easy as they get it jere

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Given VRCbat has been hot mees anyway specially after the quest update

cold talon May 24, 2019, 6:57 AM

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Just get quest so people can't grab your ip :smart:

subtle prawn May 24, 2019, 6:57 AM

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😮

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 6:59 AM

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Agreed. ip's are public information in no way by any means were they meant to be completely hidden completely. But by any means they're not suppost to be shown as easily as vrchat is allowing it to be. That is why programs exist to show and find out this information.

Theres been many canny posts but they all get closed with the response basically saying we should be using a vpn anyway. Which is ridiculous. Imo they dont know how to fix it and are pretending like we're the ones who dont know what an IP is.

I know for a fact as I've seen it for myself (not used it of course) that there are clients out there that have already fixed the issue just mere days after it became a thing.

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 7:00 AM

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🤔 days as in years ago

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 7:01 AM

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Years ago was uneeded because hacked clients had not got to the point to show this. Or at least not on a big scale. They fixed it themselves after it became a big issue.

coarse anchor May 24, 2019, 7:07 AM

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Btw petition for adjustable volume slider per person

cold talon May 24, 2019, 7:57 AM

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@coarse anchor post it in canny
(~~to be ignored~~)

coarse anchor May 24, 2019, 7:57 AM

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I mean I have seen a post from tupper showing they don't want to go this direction which is really stupid

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:01 AM

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Just tell the person to fix their mic, now everyone will be better because of it. I honestly don't understand how people don't configure their mic properly.

coarse anchor May 24, 2019, 8:05 AM

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Some people aren't techsavy and just wanna talk

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So adjustable volume sliders in the game give everyone a chance to talk to everyone because I'm muting people that are to loud or something else

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Or it's just annoying people being loud at times

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 8:17 AM

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Is anyone else not able to access vrchat at all

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Steam won’t launch it. It’s stuck at preparing to launch vrchat and it won’t start up the game

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I’ve already reinstalled it nothing working

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my game just crashes

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most of the time vrc connection error

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My game was fine a week ago (I haven’t played in a week) now I cannot even access the damn menu screen at all

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:24 AM

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Yeah I agree, they sound like they're talking through a megaphone lol.

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:26 AM

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@vocal shard You using VR or just Desktop?

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 8:26 AM

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I’m using oculus

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:26 AM

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Make sure in your task manager that 'Server VR' Is closed. Then boot up steamvr first then VRC

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if that don't work you need to assemble the elders

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 8:27 AM

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I always boot up steamvr first

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Let me retry it by closing server be

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:27 AM

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can you boot up other games fine?

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 8:28 AM

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Can’t find server vr let me try booting another game

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:28 AM

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If you're using Oculus, why don't you use the oculus version of the game? Unless you're doing PPM, or FBT, are you?

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 8:28 AM

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I use steamvr because of steam reasons and open be advanced settings

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:29 AM

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When I had oculus I never like using it because it would blank out my game behind the oculus dash

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:29 AM

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Outside of being able to use PPM, or FBT, using any app on the Oculus Store is much better because A) it's not shitty SteamVR and ASW2.0 is beyond anything SteamVR does.

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:29 AM

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steamvr is pretty shit for something you pay close to 1k for

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:30 AM

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What did you bought that was almost 1k?

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 8:30 AM

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Well I use it so too bad

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:30 AM

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Okay man, you do you, I'm just saying, Oculus version is a much better and smoother experience, objectively.

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:31 AM

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Vive is like £600 for the lot then if you want the delux audio strap that is pretty much a free oculus strap that's another £100 and its lame without it. then if you want fbt there is another 300. Ether way 600 is close to 1k

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 8:31 AM

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Wtf I’m trying to load Arizona sunshine

dusk mesa May 24, 2019, 8:31 AM

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🤔

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 8:31 AM

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No work

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:31 AM

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hmm

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reinstall steamvr?

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 8:31 AM

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So steamvr is the issue then

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:31 AM

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Jesus lol

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 8:31 AM

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I’ll try reinstalling it

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:31 AM

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SteamVR is shit, how many times do I have to say it lol.

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Valve saying they think VR won't last isn't very uplifting either to having hopes on SteamVR becoming much much better and stable.

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:32 AM

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Honestly unless you really want FBT the vive for me was not worth it. The len's are completely garbage compared to oculus and the controllers too. Whoever disagree's never used oculus lmao

dusk mesa May 24, 2019, 8:32 AM

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Hey Jay 🌝

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:32 AM

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Lucifer, have you tried doing the lens mod?

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Hi Mi-Cha.

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:33 AM

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I want too but its scary when you spend 600 on the thing

dusk mesa May 24, 2019, 8:33 AM

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I use a Oculus and I love the Controller, never tried a Vive but i want Fullbody so badly ..

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Just cant buy it atm

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:33 AM

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You can use FBT on the oculus, or any headset.

dusk mesa May 24, 2019, 8:33 AM

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Its wonky

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:33 AM

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No it's not, they use 2 different methods of tracking.

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:33 AM

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fbt is not as great as people say it is

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:33 AM

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It's just as wonky as using FBT with the Vive.

dusk mesa May 24, 2019, 8:34 AM

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I have kinect fullbody since at least 9 months

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:34 AM

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vrc is one of the only games to support it and its very experimental

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:34 AM

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No, I mean you buying light houses and 3 sensors, not using the kinect lol

dusk mesa May 24, 2019, 8:34 AM

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And many people in the dancecommunities had oculus setup with vive trackers and they all ended up going full vive

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Ik Jay lol

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:34 AM

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VRC is the ONLY game honestly, Beat Saber? Why the hell are you going to do with FBT there?

dusk mesa May 24, 2019, 8:35 AM

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Only game for now

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We dont know what will come out in the future

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:35 AM

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It has been the only game for how long now?

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:35 AM

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I did the same I used vive trackers with oculus and its terrible lmao having to align them every time was so annoying

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:35 AM

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FBT is a niche, just like finger tracking with the index is, it won't take over.

dusk mesa May 24, 2019, 8:35 AM

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Yeah Lucifer thats what I meant

lunar shell May 24, 2019, 8:36 AM

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Fbt is totally worth it for the immersion alone. Of course my opinion but whatever.

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:36 AM

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Majority of games will probably support index, but as a bragging right, instead of a gameplay feature.

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:36 AM

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I think the finger tracker will personally just because you don't need anymore than the controllers + it offers way more emotional range in games in general and more immersive.

lunar shell May 24, 2019, 8:36 AM

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And it takes me 10 seconds to line them up.

dusk mesa May 24, 2019, 8:36 AM

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Even tho I only can use my Kinect atm, i wouldnt wanted to be without "fullbody" even tho i am limited with the kinect. I have a very good setup with my kinect what makes me able to laydown, sit down ect

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:37 AM

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Yes, but majority of controllers, specially the touch controllers which are the best in the market as of yet, don't support that.

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it's just an analog grip.

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:37 AM

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Actually there are a lot of sensors tracking fingers. Its not just analog

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:38 AM

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I meant the oculus touch being analog.

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:38 AM

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ah

dusk mesa May 24, 2019, 8:38 AM

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Idk why but for some reason i dont like the knuckles

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 8:38 AM

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Nope still not working

dusk mesa May 24, 2019, 8:38 AM

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I dont tried them or have them, but idk

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:38 AM

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There is a huge list of games on steam that already support it

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:38 AM

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If they do end up supporting index fully, they'll have to make two variants, one for index and the other for the other controllers that just have a grip input, meaning they won't be able to full take use of index, unless they literally make two levels, one for index and the other for grip controllers.

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Just use Oculus dude lol. Plug N Play.

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:39 AM

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not really if they don't want to support it they will just act like oculus

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but there are games updating for finger tracking. Its not a lot of effort unless you want to add extra features that use the tracking

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:40 AM

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That's what I mean, the support will go as far as other seeing you move your fingers all cool and shit, but that'll be it, it won't be a gameplay feature, other than you wanting to press something with your ring finger instead of index.

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:40 AM

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mainly it will be used in physics or online games because it is amazing what extra stuff you can do with finger tracking

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 8:40 AM

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I wanna access my other games I payed for

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:40 AM

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imagine the deaf community on vrc

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:40 AM

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Majority of games have an oculus SDK though, you don't need steam to play them.

lunar shell May 24, 2019, 8:40 AM

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Some people want more immersive experiences including finger tracking.

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:40 AM

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they got there words backk

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 8:41 AM

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They need steamvr to be opened for me to play them

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:41 AM

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Although I highly doubt vrc will support this straight away (lol) if they do I'd be very surprised.

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Have you tried reinstalling steamvr?

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 8:41 AM

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I did

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:41 AM

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Okay, both of your points are correct, that's not what I'm saying, what I'm saying is that it won't be used for any gameplay specific purpose since it'll be extra dev work, moving the fingers isn't gameplay features, it's just a feature.

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No you don't need steam vr opened, the hell are you on about, I play games that I launch through steam and select the oculus sdk.

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:42 AM

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I mean even if it just lets you press buttons with another finger that's pretty neat

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you do need steamvr

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you cant run steam vr games without steam even with oculus

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it will just open in the background you probably didn't notice

dusk mesa May 24, 2019, 8:43 AM

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🌝

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:43 AM

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If the game supports both steamvr and oculus and you buy it on steam, you DON'T need steamvr opened, it'll just launch it from oculus home.

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The exe doesn't need steamvr opened if you select oculus.

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:43 AM

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it still runs steamvr services lmao

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:44 AM

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steam services, yes.

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Not steamvr

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:44 AM

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and you cant get them without downloading steamvr

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hence..

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:44 AM

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Okay, give me one minute.

strange wagon May 24, 2019, 8:45 AM

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so i uploaded an avatar below 5k poly and it doesn't say it's quest ready?

umbral reef May 24, 2019, 8:45 AM

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Are all other things below the limit

strange wagon May 24, 2019, 8:45 AM

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yea

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:45 AM

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#avatar-quest

strange wagon May 24, 2019, 8:45 AM

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👀

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:46 AM

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there are a few people like that

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:46 AM

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I just launched contractors vr, which supports oculus sdk and I bought it through steam, it launched and steamvr isn't open, nor is there any steamvr process, other than the normal steam processes. Again, you don't need steamvr to play a game you bought on steam if that game supports the oculus sdk.

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:46 AM

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in there. I dunno if they found the issue

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:46 AM

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You don't need one sdk if it supports the other.

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:47 AM

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well they must of just literally changed it because that's how its always worked for years lmao

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:47 AM

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No it hasn't, I've had this headset for a while now and I've never ever had to open steamvr if the game supports oculus, which they pack it in if you bought the game on steam and not oculus home.

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Valve isn't dumb, why would you require one sdk to be running, doing literally nothing, when it doesn't need it.

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Those are my processes. if it doesn't show images, I'll take the links down.

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:48 AM

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its always booted up the steamvr services for me if I ever launched from oculus. Including vrc (before they supported) arazona sunshine, rec room etc..

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:49 AM

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Are you sure you selected the "Launch with Oculus Home" option? That's what shows up when you click play on a game that also supports Oculus SDK.

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:49 AM

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if you click the down arrow on steam you might see it. Or if you scroll down to your services because you're looking at your running apps there

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:50 AM

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No, the second link was the background processes.

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The first link was running apps.

earnest ermine May 24, 2019, 8:50 AM

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vrpill

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:50 AM

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they must of changed it then

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:50 AM

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Steamvr falls under the background processes when you launch it.

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:50 AM

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also he is talking about is steamvr games I'm sure if he could select oculus he wouldn't be complaining abou tit

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:51 AM

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So if any of those games that guy wants to play support the oculus, then he won't need steamvr, unless it's some indie game.

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Maybe he doesn't know, because he just said that you need steamvr opened, which you don't need it, at all. The exe will search for what you have, if you only have steamvr, then it'll go with that, but if you have a oculus and oculus home installed and it supports it, you have the option to use that.

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:53 AM

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Some games don't have this option even if on both. Some games may not be on oculus which is when steamVR comes in with the oculus support meaning you still need it

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:54 AM

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Infact, some of my vr games are on steam because I got a cheap key for them, I didn't have steamvr installed till Unknightly and VR Chat required it, since I wanted to use PPM.

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:54 AM

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ppm?

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:54 AM

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Right, I know that, hence why I said if the games he wants to play, like Arizona Sunshine, which he mention opening, that supports Oculus, so you don't need Steamvr.

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I meant PSM, Play Space Mover.

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:55 AM

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a lot of the time even if I just selected oculus it still used steam for me

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but I haven't been with oculus for 5 months now so

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maybe it changed

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:55 AM

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Weird, never had that issue.

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 8:55 AM

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before that I had oculus for almost 2 years

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and 2 different pc's both did it

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:56 AM

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Not my experience, but oh well.

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Oh shit, I just noticed your name LOL. You saw all the seasons fully?

rotund wren May 24, 2019, 9:04 AM

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yeah

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Hope they continue it now hopefully a lot of people watched it

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I noticed a lot more people with similar names now 😢 Back when I started when there was like 60people online a day I was the only Lucifer boi

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so sad

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 9:33 AM

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Anyone else getting connection errors to vrchat?

shrewd barn May 24, 2019, 9:57 AM

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i was on my end for a bit

limpid panther May 24, 2019, 10:03 AM

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hi

shrewd barn May 24, 2019, 10:03 AM

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hello

north axle May 24, 2019, 10:04 AM

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WOO

loud gazelle May 24, 2019, 10:40 AM

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Hiya Guys for the events do you just show up or do you have to sign up ? ❤

desert stratus May 24, 2019, 10:44 AM

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that depends on the event handler

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some will just let you join at any point during the event, others require you to sign up long before it starts, etc.

loud gazelle May 24, 2019, 10:45 AM

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Ok thanks for you're help @desert stratus 😄

desert stratus May 24, 2019, 10:45 AM

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np

marsh slate May 24, 2019, 11:27 AM

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hello

regal furnace May 24, 2019, 11:42 AM

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hi

marsh slate May 24, 2019, 12:28 PM

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Bananas

tribal oxide May 24, 2019, 12:48 PM

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bunene

vale isle May 24, 2019, 1:38 PM

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hey guys, I have a question

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how does VRChat gain money?

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like, there's nothing to pay for in or for VRChat, so wth

quaint forum May 24, 2019, 1:39 PM

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idk

vale isle May 24, 2019, 1:39 PM

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how do they get paid

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how do they get the funds to work

quaint forum May 24, 2019, 1:39 PM

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that is good question

ruby needle May 24, 2019, 1:44 PM

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investors

heavy dawn May 24, 2019, 1:45 PM

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Indefinitely or... ?

covert linden May 24, 2019, 1:46 PM

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Its kinda unconfirmed

heavy dawn May 24, 2019, 1:46 PM

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I guess that's a concern. If VRC ever turns to "profit mode" then stuff might get locked out, etc.

It is a big driver of VR adoption probably.

covert linden May 24, 2019, 1:46 PM

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Many people read the records and say that its ongoing, and then others say that it was only one big payment

median basalt May 24, 2019, 1:49 PM

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VRChat gets investors, but there is the possibility that they get paid by Oculus for the Quest port

ruby needle May 24, 2019, 1:49 PM

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which... is also a kind of investment

median basalt May 24, 2019, 1:49 PM

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Yeah, same thing ultimately

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Except with more strings attached

heavy dawn May 24, 2019, 1:50 PM

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Yeah it was my understanding that the investment mostly came from people who were interested in users buying into VR to use VRC.

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 1:50 PM

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HTC and some tech investment places

covert linden May 24, 2019, 1:51 PM

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I feel like vrpill saw fpaul saying vrc wont go to the quest and its only on to be like SIKE

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Thats mainly a joke xD btw

heavy dawn May 24, 2019, 1:51 PM

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Mic eats the glowy substance of truth

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 1:51 PM

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hi guys anyone else getting vrc connection errors?

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 1:51 PM

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https://pitchbook.com/profiles/company/122673-79

Here's some old-ish data

ruby needle May 24, 2019, 1:51 PM

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@covert linden everyone who didnt know of the plan would have said the same statement

median basalt May 24, 2019, 1:52 PM

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Porting the game to the Quest was ultimately extremely damaging, and many Quest users are disappointed

ruby needle May 24, 2019, 1:52 PM

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but we mainly where focussed on "the same vrchat"

covert linden May 24, 2019, 1:52 PM

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I know, I even said the same thing Fpaul

median basalt May 24, 2019, 1:52 PM

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They saw VRChat in some video or stream but it's not nearly the same on Quest

ruby needle May 24, 2019, 1:52 PM

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without heaviy limits

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which the current adaptation has

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 1:52 PM

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Yeah I was in the "as it is, it'll never work" camp but they just changed it

median basalt May 24, 2019, 1:52 PM

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Yeah, they broke the game to force it onto their shitty mobile platform lol

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 1:52 PM

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😦

median basalt May 24, 2019, 1:53 PM

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It works, but you drop below 25 FPS if there are more than ~14 people in a room, even if they're in the default avatars

quaint forum May 24, 2019, 1:53 PM

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eloool

median basalt May 24, 2019, 1:53 PM

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And avatars and worlds are very limited

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 1:53 PM

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So what's the word on overrides? Do they get them? I haven't been on much during the week

median basalt May 24, 2019, 1:53 PM

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Both by performance and by allowed components

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Yes, but you can't actually trigger audio or particles

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 1:53 PM

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Ok that's what I thought

median basalt May 24, 2019, 1:53 PM

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So that leaves misc held props

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No shaders either

heavy dawn May 24, 2019, 1:53 PM

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Yikes. Under "Competitors" it has one that is "private debt financed". 😬

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 1:53 PM

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ah no i just losing connection and randomly kicked from worlds with vrc connection error

ruby needle May 24, 2019, 1:53 PM

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mobile ARM platform ¯_(ツ)_/¯

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 1:54 PM

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So memeless VRC for people who wanted the VRC "experience"

median basalt May 24, 2019, 1:54 PM

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Yes exactly

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The experience of having 2-second delays and 25 FPS is now here

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 1:54 PM

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Yikers

median basalt May 24, 2019, 1:54 PM

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I've spoken to a few people and the Quest users are disappointed, and many PC users (in particular veterans like error.mdl) basically just left

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As did I

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 1:54 PM

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I'm glad I don't see any issues when I'm playing. Til next month my weekday playtime is pretty much nothing so I'm glad my weekends are ok

median basalt May 24, 2019, 1:54 PM

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The two trust rank demotions were one thing, this disaster was the other

covert linden May 24, 2019, 1:55 PM

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I feel bad for quest users, as like, I cant befriend any since 90% of the worlds I enter will be pc only

median basalt May 24, 2019, 1:55 PM

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Oh yeah that too, did you see The Great Pug West?

covert linden May 24, 2019, 1:55 PM

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i havent but thats a joke

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 1:55 PM

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I heard it existed but no clue what it is

covert linden May 24, 2019, 1:55 PM

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Owlboys pug map literally drops me frames by just entering.. wish he'd actually optimize it...

median basalt May 24, 2019, 1:56 PM

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It's a "lite" version of the Pug that only holds 8 people and pretty much consists of only the entrance and one side of the bottom floor bar.

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So imagine the entrance area in the Pug, that room. The large one with the bar. The bar is mostly symmetrical. Now strip out literally 50% of that room, and you got a quest-compatible Pug.

covert linden May 24, 2019, 1:56 PM

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.

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sorry accident ^

ruby needle May 24, 2019, 1:57 PM

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then why not remove it cirThink

median basalt May 24, 2019, 1:57 PM

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Honestly ever since VRChat finally fixed their Static Batching, the Pug has been fine for me. It's actually pretty well optimized

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It's just a high population map

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Most of the fault lies with VRC, don't let yourself be had by "b-but it's the avatars!!"

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Instances with 35 people were perfectly possible mid 2017

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But the game just piled worse performing stuff on top

covert linden May 24, 2019, 1:57 PM

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Yeah but even in other high populated maps my performance doesnt just drop by as much as in the pug

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Literally every person in the pug was dropped to 11fps, we were all like ok lets go bowling instead, whereas other maps, ive never had an issue for the most part

heavy dawn May 24, 2019, 1:58 PM

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Every time I enter the Pug when there's people there it's a slide show after a while.

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If there's like... a handful of us it's okay.

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 1:59 PM

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I don't think one of the most optimized maps in VRchat is the problem, gotta be the avatars tanabae

dapper stump May 24, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Tested my world with a few quest users just incase and apparently they all do get 45 fps. Have not really optimized the quest version of it too much yet since i had no answers if needed

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Can I be staff now? :3

covert linden May 24, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Pug is probably one of the least optimized...

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Hmmmm I dunno

covert linden May 24, 2019, 2:01 PM

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Wulfie theres plenty of answers for worlds in vrc, in fact #quest-info

dapper stump May 24, 2019, 2:01 PM

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I know

covert linden May 24, 2019, 2:01 PM

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I literally had it say quest info and it changed itself to go gg

dapper stump May 24, 2019, 2:02 PM

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Still not very easy to know unless i can actually test :p luckily though turned out great

covert linden May 24, 2019, 2:03 PM

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yeah tru

umbral reef May 24, 2019, 2:13 PM

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@rigid crescent Nah said something bad once so never going to get it now

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 2:14 PM

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O no

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Uhm uhm... moderation staff is perfect...umm ummm...all emails are taken seriously! I need this job ;-;

deep otter May 24, 2019, 2:32 PM

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So i'm using the correct version of unity and the latest sdk

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and i can build and publish the character i want to upload to vrchat

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but when i try to enter play mode to upload it, it says you can't enter play mode until you fix compiler errors

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Any fixes for this?

umbral reef May 24, 2019, 2:33 PM

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Look in the console for red errors and solve those

deep otter May 24, 2019, 2:34 PM

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```Assets/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/Scripts/ContentUploadedDialog.cs(48,38): error CS0117: VRCSDK2.RuntimeWorldCreation' does not contain a definition for IsCurrentWorldInCommunityLabs'

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they're all in a similar vein to this, not containing definitions of something

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except for this one: ```Assets/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/Scripts/Uploader.cs(18,3): error CS0246: The type or namespace name `S3Manager' could not be found. Are you missing an assembly reference?

umbral reef May 24, 2019, 2:34 PM

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Reimport the most recent SDK

deep otter May 24, 2019, 2:37 PM

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... now vrcsdk tab onl yshows 'clear playerprefs and cache'

ruby needle May 24, 2019, 2:37 PM

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follow the SDK steps over at #vrchat-support

deep otter May 24, 2019, 2:38 PM

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so i just did exactly what it said make sure not to do

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vrpill

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F

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Is the vrc in game camera a pain to work with or am I just stupid

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the stream/panorama cameras I mean

languid beacon May 24, 2019, 2:59 PM

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I really want a quest but my most used vr game is vrchat and I feel like it would be a waste

calm turret May 24, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Hai

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Does anyone know if the 90fps cap is going to change?

near sky May 24, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Is it /capped/?

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HMDs are 90hz; so that's a display limitation, part of the hardware.

umbral reef May 24, 2019, 3:04 PM

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It is because most headsets cant display above
I expect that with the index Vrchat wont change it as it can also run 90Hz from wha ti heard

near sky May 24, 2019, 3:04 PM

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Index will be 120, up to 144hz for example, and Quest is 75 -game runs accordingly so long as performance legroom is there

calm turret May 24, 2019, 3:05 PM

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That's why I was wondering.

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I plan on getting an index.

near sky May 24, 2019, 3:06 PM

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Isn't a game-imposed limitation; will be fine

rough pulsar May 24, 2019, 3:06 PM

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I wonder if the cap with vrc is vrc itself, or steamvr

calm turret May 24, 2019, 3:06 PM

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I use the Oculus app

near sky May 24, 2019, 3:06 PM

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Would be SteamVR side for Index

calm turret May 24, 2019, 3:06 PM

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So I assume it's the game

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And it's also capped at 90 for desktop users

near sky May 24, 2019, 3:07 PM

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@languid beacon Buying Index and Quest within the month -I expect the Quest userbase and PC to remain separate, with some intermingling. PC majority will continue to want to make use of their advanced avatar features. May switch to see-able avatar when speaking to Quest users. Expect the experience will still be quality.

umbral reef May 24, 2019, 3:08 PM

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For VRchat it also would just mean even worse performance
Barely anyone gets 90 FPS (well with the scuffed IK we do now)

calm turret May 24, 2019, 3:08 PM

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I normally get 90 fps

umbral reef May 24, 2019, 3:09 PM

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Id say jump into a public room and unless you have everything turned off getting 90 FPS is hard most of the time

rough pulsar May 24, 2019, 3:09 PM

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I wonder if Valve will improve SteamVR's frame interpolation so 120fps could be synthesized from 60 without looking horrible

calm turret May 24, 2019, 3:09 PM

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And I use a GTX 1060 max q (laptop version)

umbral reef May 24, 2019, 3:09 PM

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@rough pulsar Fairly sure they will

rough pulsar May 24, 2019, 3:09 PM

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Then again, I seem to be one of the few people who like SteamVR's motion smoothing over Reprojection

near sky May 24, 2019, 3:09 PM

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Wouldn't it already make the attempt? @rough pulsar - Quality of that attempt is questionable

umbral reef May 24, 2019, 3:09 PM

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They did fixes to the tracking rate just for beatsaber and steamVr users

rough pulsar May 24, 2019, 3:09 PM

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Hmm, maybe?

umbral reef May 24, 2019, 3:09 PM

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So them not doing that would be really odd

near sky May 24, 2019, 3:10 PM

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Motion smoothing > Reprojection; agree entirely in my preference ^^

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 3:28 PM

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speaking of refresh rates, I wonder if I can OC my vive fisplay

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 3:30 PM

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Ever almost paste a very off-color joke in this discord instead of a friend groups discord🐸

cold talon May 24, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Out of context jokes :bless

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 3:31 PM

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That would've been a fat ban, what a way to go lol

halcyon kestrel May 24, 2019, 3:33 PM

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Hello ppl

umbral reef May 24, 2019, 3:35 PM

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Id been a dope way to go @rigid crescent
Also not chatmod worthy :^)

languid beacon May 24, 2019, 4:01 PM

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@near sky The thing is, people can continue to use all of the PC exclusive features while also making a stripped down version for quest to render, the PC user doesn’t even need to ever look at it, it’s just better than being seen as a robot by the quest users. But since it’s entirely for other people’s enjoyment, I don’t see many people going though the effort even though it’s no downside to their pc enjoyment

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I think people are under the assumption that in order to have an avatar that the quest can render, even the PC version must also all of those shortcomings, but that’s not the case

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“ I don’t want to be cross play, I want my sounds and dynamic bones” That’s not how it works!

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You remove them and decimate on the quest render only

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 4:06 PM

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Most people I've talked to just think it's too much effort redoing an avatar or making a new one so a few dozen people can see it

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Or a waste of time

languid beacon May 24, 2019, 4:08 PM

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I guess the only solution to that is a lot of quest users being around

near sky May 24, 2019, 4:08 PM

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@languid beacon Would tend to agree

languid beacon May 24, 2019, 4:10 PM

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I already see it though, people finally meet a quest user in person and talk to them a little, and they seem to sheepishly change to a system avatar and ask "can you see me now" - if quest users are everywhere, people are narcisitic by nature - they want everyone to see them. 😉

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Tri to Quads -> Unsubdivide -> Triangulate

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ez decimation without looking like garbo ❤

near sky May 24, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Observed the same thing

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Would expect this to play out more widely; especially if there's a buildup of Quest users

desert stratus May 24, 2019, 4:14 PM

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it would happen quicker if we got more crossplay worlds, especially rlly good ones like the temple imo

polar jasper May 24, 2019, 4:15 PM

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The problem with few worlds now was that we had no way to test them unless you had a Go or dev Quest

near sky May 24, 2019, 4:19 PM

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True; although requirements to qualify as a quest world do provide some guidance for what would run how well -even through that

languid beacon May 24, 2019, 4:21 PM

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Curiously I see PC and Crossplay worlds, but I wonder, are there Quest-only worlds? They'd be hidden from search for me, so I don't know

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I made a quest-only avatar just for kicks, and it totally renders as a Quest-bot for PC users

polar jasper May 24, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Of course, but when many of the worlds (from the world devs that want to support Quest) can't support it because of how things functions. So will take some time to find a good solutions for those. Then you got the ones that simply do not care about Quest

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 4:28 PM

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ok

sudden cloak May 24, 2019, 4:41 PM

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How many hours do you have to have on the game before being able to publish avatars?

ruby needle May 24, 2019, 4:41 PM

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Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a not time based trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.

You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord, a rough estimate would be ** 20-40 hours**, but big exceptions are possible.

Make sure you are not using a steam or oculus account because those can not be verified and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.

http://help.vrchat.com/kb/article/27-why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet

sudden cloak May 24, 2019, 4:42 PM

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ty

heavy dawn May 24, 2019, 4:51 PM

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Yeah once I actually played a bit it seemed like no time at all before I was verified. It felt disappointing to be blocked right off the bat but it made sense. (Because I came to VRC because of the potential to use my Unity3D skills for chat stuff.)

crisp siren May 24, 2019, 5:09 PM

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Does anyone know why I can hear my friends voice? I already unmuted them and everytime I login they have this ear with an x on the side beside their names

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 5:12 PM

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Its been happening a lot recently

crisp siren May 24, 2019, 5:14 PM

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I can hear the people I added recently but the people I've been friends for months can't

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 5:18 PM

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Pre-verified master race 🐸 👌

languid beacon May 24, 2019, 5:39 PM

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I swear that copypasta has more underlines and bolded words every time I see it

umbral reef May 24, 2019, 5:40 PM

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My predection was that in 2 more months its fully underlined and bolded

broken adder May 24, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Ok so I wanted some help

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I don't know if people can hear me or not

tribal orbit May 24, 2019, 5:50 PM

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#user-support-old

broken adder May 24, 2019, 5:51 PM

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No I was using the PC so I wasn't sure if my mic was working

royal basin May 24, 2019, 5:56 PM

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go to the mic test world

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which name escapes me

ancient thicket May 24, 2019, 5:56 PM

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does anyone else have this issue that if you log in on steam on vrc, that whoever is trying to invite you or you want to join a privet world that you don't get any notification (the text bubble or invite accept icon )? Ive been having this issue for a while.

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 6:01 PM

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Yeah it's a known bug

ancient thicket May 24, 2019, 6:02 PM

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can it be fixed in a way? or do we have to wait.

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Just gotta wait it out

quiet dew May 24, 2019, 6:07 PM

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How do i play Vrchat without a Vr head set i have seen people with out vr play it and i want to now how i do it...

still lark May 24, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Press Play, enjoy.

quiet dew May 24, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Okey but when i do that the game says frick you and the camera starts spinning can this have to with my controler being pluged in?

velvet quarry May 24, 2019, 6:10 PM

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The game does support controllers, so that could be very likely.

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I'd recommend unplugging it and see if that makes a difference

quiet dew May 24, 2019, 6:10 PM

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Okey thanks for helping me

near sky May 24, 2019, 6:11 PM

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👌

covert linden May 24, 2019, 6:11 PM

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I love when discord doesnt scroll down and I look dumb

umbral reef May 24, 2019, 6:11 PM

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Yea, the problem your have is related to having two 'input' USB. VRchat messes up then and makes you permantly turn

near sky May 24, 2019, 6:11 PM

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responds to message 4 hours out of date

covert linden May 24, 2019, 6:11 PM

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it was only 1 minute late I just didnt see the messages and freaked out

near sky May 24, 2019, 6:12 PM

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I feel you! - Do it from time to time myself

quiet dew May 24, 2019, 6:19 PM

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I cant search for avatars?

slate verge May 24, 2019, 6:21 PM

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it happens

velvet quarry May 24, 2019, 6:22 PM

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You may want to try your luck on some "Avatar worlds", where you can favorite avatars that you'd like to keep access to.

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 6:23 PM

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There's no search for avatars. Just worlds and users

quiet dew May 24, 2019, 6:26 PM

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okey

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Are there Any Jojo models

slate verge May 24, 2019, 6:26 PM

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pretty sure there are.

quiet dew May 24, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Okey if there aren't any get on that stuff ask some modeler

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 6:30 PM

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I've seen some around. I don't know who you're asking to "get on it" though. Lol

The way the game works, people upload avatars to their account, and then some people make a world with a pedestal that allows others to borrow their own personal avatars as long as the original person still has it on their account.

So it's really up to the players what avatars are uploaded. Just try searching for some user avatar worlds and you'll find something eventually

heavy dawn May 24, 2019, 6:31 PM

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It never occurred to me I could use the IDs of avatars I like as well as my own. haha

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I guess that makes sense.

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I can add links to worlds I didn't make in my own worlds 🤷

worthy oracle May 24, 2019, 6:41 PM

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.>

muted maple May 24, 2019, 6:43 PM

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https://gyazo.com/bf8ebe83938ea1a5f2741234f892cd16

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They start to pop in, Oculus Quest Users

vocal shard May 24, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Still haven't made a cross platform avatar yet animesweat
I should get on that

quiet dew May 24, 2019, 6:51 PM

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When can i use privete avatars?

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And how do i get the upgrade?

ruby needle May 24, 2019, 6:51 PM

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You can only use private avatars you created and uploaded your self

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other persons private avatars.... are their private avatars cirLaugh

quiet dew May 24, 2019, 6:52 PM

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okey thank you

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And is that a bad thing to do?

heavy dawn May 24, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Same Jamie I think I should make more cross platform compatible ones. Some of mine are compatible by virtue of being low poly/simple.

tiny ginkgo May 24, 2019, 6:58 PM

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@quiet dew you can use the avatars in avatar worlds freely..

quiet dew May 24, 2019, 6:59 PM

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okey thank you for helping me il be quiet for som time

iron thunder May 24, 2019, 7:21 PM

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Anyone post things to /r/vrchat here? I'm curious what the science is behind being successfully upvoted. If you say you made it, do you automatically get downvoted? Are meme videos with subtitles more widely accepted? I really want to make sure I am not mentally masturbating but I have become numb to it all. Call me, I'm lost.. and i've lost the ability to cringe. Thanks.

unborn dune May 24, 2019, 7:51 PM

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im crossing my fingers sooooooo hard that i can join my friends' worlds tonight

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plspslsplslps

idle nova May 24, 2019, 8:03 PM

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Why do you care so much about what rando's on Reddit think

iron thunder May 24, 2019, 8:11 PM

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I care because I make stuff and it takes a week to edit. The tediousness is kind of maddening but the creative process and the final project is what keeps me pushing through. Sharing the videos respectfully is a blind spot that I cant figure out. Is it a gamble? I know people hate it when you post your own stuff.

heavy dawn May 24, 2019, 8:13 PM

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Yeah that attitude seems silly. "Don't self-promote" Well how else is anyone going to hear about stuff that has zero followers right now? Trust the algorithm? No...

iron thunder May 24, 2019, 8:15 PM

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I get it. So many people "create" so theres an influx of garbage.. and even now, I have to question if I also post garbage. It's hard to see past. Lol. But as the creator, you work 4 hours a day.. 12 hours on the weekend to make this thing.. and it's more accepted that someone else comes along with your video without giving credit.

whole marsh May 24, 2019, 8:16 PM

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is anyone having trouble with unity. cause for some reason it wont let me upload any avatars.

heavy dawn May 24, 2019, 8:19 PM

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@whole marsh Obivously it'd be more helpful if you could let us know what is in the Console tab. It should say why the upload failed.

idle nova May 24, 2019, 8:19 PM

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Reddit's a shitty platform for self promotion

heavy dawn May 24, 2019, 8:19 PM

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hasn't tried uploading lately, no.

whole marsh May 24, 2019, 8:20 PM

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it says to use settings menu to login but im already logged in.

heavy dawn May 24, 2019, 8:22 PM

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Oh so your VRChat tab is saying to log in but your VRC settings tab says you're logged in? Re-open Unity?

whole marsh May 24, 2019, 8:22 PM

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yeah im gonna re open unity

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@heavy dawn yeah its still saying to use settings to login

heavy dawn May 24, 2019, 8:24 PM

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:/

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will load up Unity and see too then

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/160450005709225984/581579907071475712/unknown.png

Yeah it allows me to log in and it says it'll let me upload.

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Are you using a modified SDK or a really old one?

whole marsh May 24, 2019, 8:33 PM

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i think im using the 2017 version? i dont really know.

heavy dawn May 24, 2019, 8:37 PM

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A good check would be to log into VRChat itself because obivously the API call is just using your same login.

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If that works but Unity doesn't, maybe importing a new copy of the SDK would help.

whole marsh May 24, 2019, 8:41 PM

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i was able to get it to work.

heavy dawn May 24, 2019, 8:43 PM

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What worked?

whole marsh May 24, 2019, 8:45 PM

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getting the sign in thing

quick kayak May 24, 2019, 8:47 PM

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Sometimes, completely erasing the SDK, restarting Unity and reinstalling it fixes sign in issues.

night lark May 24, 2019, 9:12 PM

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why do people hate quest users

ruby needle May 24, 2019, 9:13 PM

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hate the quest or the users?

night lark May 24, 2019, 9:13 PM

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both

ruby needle May 24, 2019, 9:13 PM

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I can understand the first but the second one i dont.

night lark May 24, 2019, 9:13 PM

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like they tell them to just buy a normal headset

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not everyone has a pc

ruby needle May 24, 2019, 9:13 PM

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I see cirLaugh

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Yeah well, then the users saying that just haven't really understood the point of the quest.

night lark May 24, 2019, 9:14 PM

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thought of something

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if vrchat can be ported to quest, then can it also be ported to psvr in the same way?

ruby needle May 24, 2019, 9:15 PM

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No

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Not with the kinda content and stuff

night lark May 24, 2019, 9:15 PM

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k

ruby needle May 24, 2019, 9:15 PM

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Or to say

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99,99% unlikely that sony would like this on their platform with the rather hard to regulate content

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im not gonna say 100% anymore as the quest aparently became a thing cirLaugh

night lark May 24, 2019, 9:17 PM

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if it were to be allowed on, it would probably use the same mechanics as the quest, such as lower poly avatars, right?

tiny crescent May 24, 2019, 9:17 PM

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the two trackers on my feet are green but the one on my waist stays blue how do i fix this\

warped swift May 24, 2019, 9:21 PM

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hey when a mirror opens up for me, my game starts to lag a lot and after a while my head set turns off but steam VR stays on, it only start happening today

mint fable May 24, 2019, 9:23 PM

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I wish the api had support for official use

ruby burrow May 24, 2019, 9:32 PM

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Play Station would be able to handle poly count and graphics well enough overall, but is underpowered in terms of CPU by comparison to typical PCs.
So it'd presumably have it's own quirks and limitations.

ruby needle May 24, 2019, 9:32 PM

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Consoles are heavily multhithreaded these days arent they?

ruby burrow May 24, 2019, 9:32 PM

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Stuff like user count, dy-bones, and such would be the bigger issue probably.

ruby needle May 24, 2019, 9:33 PM

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well at least dyn bones can be disabled

ruby burrow May 24, 2019, 9:35 PM

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Overall it'd probably compete with all the low-ish end PCs many use for VRC well enough. But it'd be bound to have some issue somewhere.

ruby needle May 24, 2019, 9:36 PM

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as the question was more or less if it would work there (could it potentially come to psvr) when it does on the quest

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i still belive it would run a bit better

ruby burrow May 24, 2019, 9:36 PM

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Oh yeah, it'd easily out perform the Quest.

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But I reckon your initial answer about Sony's content policy would be the major obstacle.

ruby needle May 24, 2019, 9:37 PM

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jup

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And totally understandable.

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 9:51 PM

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It's probably not even a good idea even if they could just magic handwave a psvr version in a month

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There's a shitload if PSVRs out there

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Like a few million

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That's something they'd need to do around "release" or at least more stability than we have now

ruby needle May 24, 2019, 9:56 PM

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I disagree

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people of the platform are just as interested in playing vrchat

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not everything has to be a promotion prove for new headset sales

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cirLaugh

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 10:01 PM

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No I mean there would probably be hundreds of thousands of players suddenly lol

night lark May 24, 2019, 10:02 PM

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thats good

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kinda

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 10:03 PM

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Yes assuming they can handle server load it's great lol I don't doubt they can make it function on psvr with the quest client already a thing

night lark May 24, 2019, 10:03 PM

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the biggest issue is sonys content policy

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thats it

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 10:03 PM

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Yup

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Like even if 1% of PSVR owners were interested, it'd be nuts

night lark May 24, 2019, 10:06 PM

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thats kind of why i'm suggesting it, i used to be able to play on vive until my dad chose his girlfriend over me and my siblings, now i'm stuck with the psvr at my mom's house

rigid crescent May 24, 2019, 10:11 PM

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🤢 at least you've got Skyrim

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And borderlands

night lark May 24, 2019, 10:12 PM

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but i want vrchat

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i've worked hard on 3d modeling

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thats why i got into 3d modeling, to make avatars

proper ravine May 24, 2019, 10:15 PM

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just a question is it me or has vrchat got worse since the new updates for the quest to work with it

ruby needle May 24, 2019, 10:18 PM

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There has been a transition to a new IK system that in the long run will be a big improvement but will need some tweaking to it as its currently not running to well

tiny crescent May 24, 2019, 10:43 PM

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when i use full body tracking the ones on my feet are green but the one on my waist stays blue how do i fix this

analog canopy May 24, 2019, 10:45 PM

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I reccomend pairing that tracker again, and if it fails try a different usb port. Use a 3.0 one.

tiny crescent May 24, 2019, 10:58 PM

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can i add you and call you on discord so you can help me @analog canopy

inner cape May 24, 2019, 11:22 PM

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tanabae

languid beacon May 24, 2019, 11:32 PM

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!online

floral flaxBOT May 24, 2019, 11:32 PM

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There are 6871 users in VRChat currently

unborn dune May 25, 2019, 12:16 AM

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well I crossed my fingers that I would be able to join friends' worlds but I timeout right after the loading my home

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gg 10/10 how is it getting worse

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like the bug is actively getting worse

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how

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pretty p'd right now

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no friday night with the friends i suppose

hollow breach May 25, 2019, 12:49 AM

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Try again?

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Lmao

pine bluff May 25, 2019, 12:52 AM

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So uhh what’s going on with the Go version?

vocal shard May 25, 2019, 12:53 AM

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henlo!

tulip wave May 25, 2019, 12:54 AM

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is there anyway someone can help me, i have not been able to load into any worlds without getting "your connection to vr chat has timed out"

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i unistalled and re installed and cleared the chace

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still nothing...

pine bluff May 25, 2019, 12:55 AM

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Idk I just read something about VR chat on the go getting deleted and I have no other Vr devices other than the oculus go

tulip wave May 25, 2019, 12:56 AM

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oh well i have the oculus rift

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and i haven been restarting my game for a long time still nothing

vocal shard May 25, 2019, 12:57 AM

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Are you using a vpn

tulip wave May 25, 2019, 12:57 AM

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no

vocal shard May 25, 2019, 12:57 AM

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use one

tulip wave May 25, 2019, 12:57 AM

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why?

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also i dont have one

vocal shard May 25, 2019, 12:57 AM

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Just trust me using a vpn fixes a lot of connection errors with vrchat for some reason

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You can use a free one

tulip wave May 25, 2019, 12:58 AM

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is there a free one that u can link me to?

vocal shard May 25, 2019, 12:58 AM

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Nope in class rn

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just look one up

tulip wave May 25, 2019, 12:58 AM

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oh alright ill try to find one, thanks for the help

small wing May 25, 2019, 1:30 AM

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So after upgrading to windows 10 and reinstalling nvidia drivers I can hear myself talk in game

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Dunno what is causing it but is this something I could fix? Also is there some sorta log that can be sent to the dev team about this? Better to give them info so they can see what is causing it.

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Really annoying cause it only seem's to happen with visemes almost the same way reverb zones break voices locally.

elder oasis May 25, 2019, 1:46 AM

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Anyone know why my world that has been public for half a year just suddenly got reset to private?

soft skiff May 25, 2019, 2:02 AM

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gotta admit, VRC on the quest is pretty good

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the fact that it just works without hassle is nice

vocal shard May 25, 2019, 2:18 AM

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@elder oasis i have a world i hadnt updated in lkke 5 months and it just now got delisted and set to private again

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Pretty sure its just a odd reminder to update your map to the new unity version

elder oasis May 25, 2019, 2:20 AM

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but i have

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i update it all the time will little nick nacks

torn nebula May 25, 2019, 2:23 AM

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@elder oasis @vocal shard it's a bug. contact support@vrchat.com https://vrchat.canny.io/bug-reports/p/public-world-put-back-into-community-labs-after-update

vocal shard May 25, 2019, 2:23 AM

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huh alrighty

torn nebula May 25, 2019, 2:24 AM

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everyone else, check your worlds

unborn dune May 25, 2019, 3:10 AM

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well it let me in for an hour and then stopped letting me join worlds

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i honestly dont know how long i can stay with vrc

swift thicket May 25, 2019, 3:15 AM

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hello everyone

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ayaka

unborn dune May 25, 2019, 3:15 AM

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i mean open up a shop or something, where people can donate if thats what it takes to get more people working on these game breaking issues

vale palm May 25, 2019, 3:19 AM

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is there some magix trick to the camera to hit the other buttonside

deep otter May 25, 2019, 3:24 AM

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Turn it over

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👌

torn nebula May 25, 2019, 3:27 AM

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hold in your other hand while pressing buttonms

thin ember May 25, 2019, 3:29 AM

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How do u report crashers?

vocal shard May 25, 2019, 3:30 AM

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@thin ember #moderation-reports

thin ember May 25, 2019, 3:31 AM

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TY

boreal kelp May 25, 2019, 3:31 AM

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Is it even possible to override the default crouch idle animation

polar jasper May 25, 2019, 3:33 AM

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Yes

boreal kelp May 25, 2019, 3:33 AM

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When I tried applying the new crouch animation I made to my avatar's customoverride and loaded up VRChat, it just showed the default crouch animation with legs clipping through skirt

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The animation did play when I crouch walked (I reused the animation intended for idle crouch), but it refuses to play when I'm idle and crouching

vale palm May 25, 2019, 3:37 AM

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been trying all for 45m

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the movement cycle button doesnt wanna get pressed the other side is fine

boreal kelp May 25, 2019, 3:41 AM

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Would I need to create a new animationcontroller in order for my crouch idle animation to show up?

tawny elk May 25, 2019, 3:57 AM

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These timeouts are getting real crazy

rigid crescent May 25, 2019, 4:10 AM

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:0 did they change whatever was in the API to let you view people in friends/friends+ worlds

still lark May 25, 2019, 4:12 AM

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Yup

buoyant stone May 25, 2019, 4:18 AM

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so, I'm not very social, and have issues with anxiety. I'm attempting to use vrchat as a way of re-acquainting myself with social interactions. is there a world or type of advice someone might have to help me?

rigid crescent May 25, 2019, 4:30 AM

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why tho ;-;

still lark May 25, 2019, 4:31 AM

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Because someone abused it @rigid crescent

rigid crescent May 25, 2019, 4:31 AM

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tanabae but aneko's tool was fun

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what'd they do owo

still lark May 25, 2019, 4:32 AM

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Abused it. :P

rigid crescent May 25, 2019, 4:32 AM

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is there a reason why Snep's works? I'm guessing it works differently

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since it doesn't show everyone in the room only friends

still lark May 25, 2019, 4:32 AM

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Because it uses your friends list to collect who is in what worlds

rigid crescent May 25, 2019, 4:32 AM

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🤢 dangit now i'll keep joining rooms iwth one dude passed out drunk

still lark May 25, 2019, 4:33 AM

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Lol

rigid crescent May 25, 2019, 4:34 AM

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i basically used it for that and to be polite and not join instances where a bunch of people hate me lol

still lark May 25, 2019, 4:35 AM

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I was just kinda curious who was where and with who

rigid crescent May 25, 2019, 4:36 AM

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yeah finding and not joining instances with two people flirting or passed the fuck out was convenient

still lark May 25, 2019, 4:37 AM

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Or If I found someone alone I'd join them.

rigid crescent May 25, 2019, 4:38 AM

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LOL that's the exact opposite, i usually assume they're asleep unless its one of the people i know that likes to sit alone til someone joins

cobalt pecan May 25, 2019, 4:39 AM

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so one person's misuse ruined it for the rest again, great

still lark May 25, 2019, 4:39 AM

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Yeah but we shouldn't had the ability in the first place

rigid crescent May 25, 2019, 4:41 AM

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Really? I always thought it was a bit "powerful" but I wasn't sure if that was just me

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It almost seemed like an invasion of privacy, but at the same time, it was (as far as im aware of) only worlds I originally had access to anyway

brave drift May 25, 2019, 4:42 AM

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seeing information that you could get from just joining that instance in game is "powerful"?

cobalt pecan May 25, 2019, 4:43 AM

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Indeed I never considered it to breach privacy, as it was only a view on an instance you had relation to anyway

deep otter May 25, 2019, 4:46 AM

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What are emission maps?

rigid crescent May 25, 2019, 4:48 AM

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They let you choose what and what not yo uwant to have an emmission

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Lets say you've got a pair of heart shaped boxers on your avatar, for simplicity sake. On the main texture, it's just a pattern of hearts on a white background

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Anything you want an emission on should be White, everything else shoudl be Black. I typically just duplicate the texture I want emissions on and change, in this case, the hearts to White and the white backgroudn to black. this (should) cause just those spots to have an emission, works the same on a lot of other types of mapping.

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you'll probably get a better answer is #avatars-2-general though

still lark May 25, 2019, 4:56 AM

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@rigid crescent IMO the API should be locked down as much as possible, we're slowly getting to that point.

rigid crescent May 25, 2019, 4:56 AM

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I don't fuck with it much, so I can't say I'd mind

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I still remember the old "just don't be bad" stance they made with the API last year

still lark May 25, 2019, 4:57 AM

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That's still current I guess

night lark May 25, 2019, 5:06 AM

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anybody want realistic my hero academia avatars? yes or no?

boreal kelp May 25, 2019, 5:52 AM

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Until custom crouch idle animations can be override the default ones, I'll just focus on making a few emote animations and then start socializing

night lark May 25, 2019, 5:55 AM

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i’d like an answer to my question so i can know whether or not people want or would enjoy that sort of thing

polar jasper May 25, 2019, 6:02 AM

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Hard to answer when one don't use them

drowsy flare May 25, 2019, 6:03 AM

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algum br?

rose timber May 25, 2019, 6:23 AM

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@boreal kelp you can only override the locomotion crouch as you found out. The idle crouch is just the standing idle with IK applied.

still lark May 25, 2019, 6:36 AM

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@rose timber Is there any plans to change the way that works or? I would like to change my crouch idle pose.

rose timber May 25, 2019, 6:46 AM

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Well on desktop it's just simulating having a headset at a certain height. And in VR there's no real crouch because it's a continuum between standing and putting your head on the ground so the IK needs to drive it. We are working on an updated ik that blends between intermediate states, but it wouldn't be a good idea to alter those because they are tuned to blend well.

boreal kelp May 25, 2019, 6:50 AM

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@rose timber Will it ever be possible for me to do a crouching animation like this in the future?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/303746604610093066/581735673325682698/giphy.gif

worthy oracle May 25, 2019, 6:51 AM

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so i got my trusted rank back

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and i get deranked again while i'm afk in a world with a wholesome avatar on

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lmfao nice

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and then i get it back

rose timber May 25, 2019, 6:54 AM

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@boreal kelp I think you can do that right now, because that avatar is locomoting vrcsmile just use one frame in your override!

worthy oracle May 25, 2019, 6:54 AM

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i'm so confused

placid zealot May 25, 2019, 7:22 AM

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@worthy oracle If you're getting deranked that quickly one would think you're being muted/blocked by alot of people. Otherwise not sure what causes that.

worthy oracle May 25, 2019, 7:22 AM

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but i wasnt lol

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i got my rank back but its like im rank hopping

still lark May 25, 2019, 7:24 AM

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Thanks for the info hackspanner!

high kayak May 25, 2019, 7:26 AM

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I have a problem. I'm joining these worlds which say they have people in them but when I arrive there's no one there. What gives?

still lark May 25, 2019, 7:28 AM

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@high kayak When you open your quick menu, what does the build number say?

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It's in the bottom left

high kayak May 25, 2019, 7:29 AM

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Oh darn, I just closed it. I'll reopen it and tell you. Is this a known issue?

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Build number 751 @still lark

still lark May 25, 2019, 7:30 AM

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You should be on 772

high kayak May 25, 2019, 7:31 AM

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I'm using an outdated version, so does that mean I can't interact with people on newer builds?

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How do I update it?

still lark May 25, 2019, 7:32 AM

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Pretty much

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Do you use steam or something else?

high kayak May 25, 2019, 7:32 AM

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Yes I do.

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The actual application doesn't have an update option so how would I do this?

still lark May 25, 2019, 7:34 AM

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It should just update unless you've paused it or have limited it in some way.

high kayak May 25, 2019, 7:34 AM

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I'm launching it via the website, would that prevent it updating?

still lark May 25, 2019, 7:34 AM

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Is steam open?

high kayak May 25, 2019, 7:35 AM

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Not at the moment.

still lark May 25, 2019, 7:35 AM

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Please open it and let steam update VRChat.

high kayak May 25, 2019, 7:35 AM

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Does VRChat have to be closed during this?

covert linden May 25, 2019, 8:01 AM

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Yes

marsh slate May 25, 2019, 8:07 AM

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Ok

autumn mica May 25, 2019, 8:26 AM

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@covert linden no u

storm stag May 25, 2019, 8:28 AM

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Ughh I want that API back.

still lark May 25, 2019, 8:32 AM

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@storm stag Too bad! :P

quiet dew May 25, 2019, 9:01 AM

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!online

floral flaxBOT May 25, 2019, 9:01 AM

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There are 6430 users in VRChat currently

covert quartz May 25, 2019, 9:07 AM

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all 6k having IK issue and loading issues 😃

meager solstice May 25, 2019, 9:09 AM

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I mean unless they r on the beta version, heard the ik looks much better

covert quartz May 25, 2019, 9:09 AM

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if the w0rld has less than 10 peps maybe

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i cant even load into worlds

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#5mil

meager solstice May 25, 2019, 9:11 AM

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For me atleast I saw the ik act “jittery” in worlds with 3 people

covert quartz May 25, 2019, 9:11 AM

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but hey

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quest

meager solstice May 25, 2019, 9:11 AM

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🤔

covert quartz May 25, 2019, 9:12 AM

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kill the game for like 200k people so 50 people can run it

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smar tmove if you ask me

meager solstice May 25, 2019, 9:12 AM

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How did they kill the game?

covert quartz May 25, 2019, 9:12 AM

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I mean not able to see IK tracking or load into worlds I think kills the game

meager solstice May 25, 2019, 9:13 AM

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I mean the IK thing was way before the quest......

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And it’s a smart move for performance

covert quartz May 25, 2019, 9:14 AM

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the hells the point of having an extra 10 fps if you see people moving around in 1fps or cant even see them to begin with

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also the worst IK tracking got was seeing people in FBT twitch which is 100% understandable because FBT was never meant to be a full functioning thing

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also the world killing makes the extra FPS pointless since you cant even load to begin with lol

meager solstice May 25, 2019, 9:15 AM

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I mean like I said people in the beta said the IK looks much better, even the fbt

covert quartz May 25, 2019, 9:16 AM

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ive yet to see it, god knows i would like too

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I want VRC to be fucking amazing, but right now its the worse its ever been imo

meager solstice May 25, 2019, 9:18 AM

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Unfortunately I don’t have the same pain, don’t have loading problems

covert quartz May 25, 2019, 9:18 AM

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every twitter post ive seen about the new IK is about how laggy in garbage it is

meager solstice May 25, 2019, 9:18 AM

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I mean it’s the first version of a new system

umbral reef May 25, 2019, 9:18 AM

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And thats the reason why the current beta is all about IK fixes from what i know

covert quartz May 25, 2019, 9:19 AM

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so why implement something that is 100% buggy?

meager solstice May 25, 2019, 9:19 AM

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I mean testing something between 20 people and 7k people r totally different scenarios.

covert quartz May 25, 2019, 9:19 AM

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why jot test, fix, update the new AIK before launching it?

umbral reef May 25, 2019, 9:19 AM

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Because they cant just test it?

covert quartz May 25, 2019, 9:19 AM

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what?

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they cant test it??? wtf???

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the hell is the poitn of beta then hello?

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literally beta is meant to test?

meager solstice May 25, 2019, 9:20 AM

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Do u know how the betas work?

covert quartz May 25, 2019, 9:20 AM

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yes

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you test shit wqtf

umbral reef May 25, 2019, 9:21 AM

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We cant simulate thousands of users within a beta and odds are because of the networkload its like that

covert quartz May 25, 2019, 9:21 AM

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ive been in like 50 betas all testing shit

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vrc is the first beta ive seen that fails to test appearntly

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all other betas test and try before launching

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"cant simulate" so how har dis it to ask more people to test the beta?

meager solstice May 25, 2019, 9:22 AM

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There’s a difference between testing 200 users and 7k users

covert quartz May 25, 2019, 9:22 AM

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you know the thing to prevent whats happening currently?

umbral reef May 25, 2019, 9:22 AM

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Hard lmao

covert quartz May 25, 2019, 9:22 AM

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soo hard ive yet to see a post encourage people to test the beta

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so why even have a beta if no one tests it?

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why evne have it if its pointless?

umbral reef May 25, 2019, 9:23 AM

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Because a small group of well educated users (about the game) test it often and find a shi ton of bugs constantly

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Also so users can try out sytems and give feedback

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We got rid of the veteran rank because of it 🤷

covert quartz May 25, 2019, 9:23 AM

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ahh so the launch game is the test game

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got it

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so the only good thing beta did was remove the vet rank

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awesome!!

umbral reef May 25, 2019, 9:24 AM

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Want me to start listing useless bugs that say nothing to you then?
As your not just being nitpicky and salty about this what make this conversation a waste of my time.

meager solstice May 25, 2019, 9:25 AM

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We’ve found a lot of shit in betas to be fair

umbral reef May 25, 2019, 9:26 AM

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If your unwilling to accept that a network related change cant be properly beta tested its not my fault.
There have been some bugs that could have been found that happen for everyone with the IK, those could be solved for sure yes. But those are far from the worse bugs happening right now.

covert quartz May 25, 2019, 9:26 AM

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but this isnt a small thing

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its not like 5% of users are seeing IK issues or world loading issues or whatever

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its literally everyone thats in a world with 10+ peps

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ive yet to see anyone post or comment about how amazing the new IK is unless they are quest which is the lowest amount of users

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evne then quest are still getting lagg lol

umbral reef May 25, 2019, 9:28 AM

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Mainly because users tend to complain more then be positive. I have yet to hear people say anything good about the particle limiter for example.

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But just reread wha ti wrote if yo want to know my answer to what you wrote-

plush osprey May 25, 2019, 9:28 AM

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the problem i have is timing out right when i try to join a world my friends are in. sometimes i can load into a world sometimes i can't, its a coin flip that mostly lands on tails

covert quartz May 25, 2019, 9:29 AM

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dude i would fucking love to compliment this game, buts its really damn fucking hard to compliment a game that makes my friends walk around in 1fps IF i can evne load into a game

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thats like expecting the fanbase of a game to give a positive feedback when the game runs 10% of the time and even has issues

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how do you expect the fans to be positive whene veyr update kills somethine?

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you cant bash the fans for being with a game for 2 fucking years when the game has the same issues as day 1

plush osprey May 25, 2019, 9:31 AM

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once they fix the timing out issue from loading into worlds then i'll be fine again

umbral reef May 25, 2019, 9:31 AM

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More talking about previous updates, also why y comment was related to a older system by now.
Cant deny this one is ure cucked but ey- its not like they got a beta live you can tst with more fixed IK and play there with ya friends

covert quartz May 25, 2019, 9:31 AM

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ive spent liek 1.5k for VR stuffs to enjoy it just to have my fav game shit on me every update, I ahve a right to be upset after months and months of issues

umbral reef May 25, 2019, 9:31 AM

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@plush osprey Odds thats related to your networking towards the VRC servers though.

covert quartz May 25, 2019, 9:32 AM

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ye @plush osprey its you not the game :^)

plush osprey May 25, 2019, 9:33 AM

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damn.. its a new wifi card too.. can't believe the dongle i use to use worked better then ._.

umbral reef May 25, 2019, 9:33 AM

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Its not like a lagged IP, bad dns service ipv6 problems or more can gut the connection

dusk mesa May 25, 2019, 9:33 AM

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I have slow internet and it happens to me, but only between 7-11pm my time 🌝