#vrchat-general-2
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hey
I want a brother
I used to babysit sometimes. Doing that made me change my idea of having a brother
He
I want ppl to stop calling me Gay S.l.u.t

bc like everyone calls me that
You should see in my school, the principal doesn't even do anything about it.
ppl think i'm Gay.
I mega gay
I was a former long term LoL player.. That game breaks you
I'm thinking about buying an Gaming PC for 1,500$.
Getting broken by LoL then broken more by vr
@vocal shard just dont get a walmart pc and you will be good π
I don't even live in U.S .-.
then you dont have to worry β€
Galaxy before you do like ask here if the specs are good, or learn about specs
otherwise u could be scammed
I live in Scandinavia.
dont want a 1050 for 1.5k us
@covert linden cant be scammed if you built your own and know your own specs
^ but im not gonna ask them to go learn about pcs and build it
just know windows isnt included >:)
Ermm, i can just go to a shop called "Elgiganten" and buy a full new Gaming PC..
Build 1 its really easy
theres more to a gaming pc than the gaming title
I have sensory overload, doing as small as a gpu change overwhelms me and freaks me out, so I dont reccomend it to others because personally I cannot do it, and the only reason im building one is because my boyfriend is gonna come over and teach me how and help me
Just run ddu if you are changing cards
Does anyone know anyone that takes like, avatar requests and creates them for people who don't know how?
But you can get a gaming pc with a 1050 and i5 low gen or something, for the same price as an i7 7k 1660ti if you dont know what youre doing
wanna hear something in swedish?
You should at least be aware of whats good if youre going prebuilt
I really wanna say this in swedish :p
@coral epoch i dont do commissions but i know a lot of good people that do
soo.. imma just say it
darn
Mobbning Γ€r fΓΆrbjudet hΓ€r i Sverige.
: )
Fuck
I wonder what the April Fools update will be?
Whos the mad lad that pinged here lmao
@amber parcel IDFK
Alright whose bright idea was it to ping everyone in the development-advanced channel? LMAO
RIP adv dev channel π
A dev ofc-...
Dev channel is gone π¦
Jesus crice
xd
Wtf happend
Dev did an @ here
π¦ π¦
you'd think there's a hell lot of developing going on over there with all the activity in it now 
Atleast we know who is gonna get their mod status removed thsi week
that wasn't even a mod -- that was one of the VRChat Team >_>;
π¦ π¦
Yes
Heck is going on in development-advanced
The whole server is lagging
@cold talon ?!?! It was a VRC Team member. lol
welp...RIP vrchat development 
Hello
random pings?
Death has come to this server
april fools joke.
Someone pinged @ here
and shitstorm happened
I think that's funny
fair warning, now #vrchat-general-1 is possibly beginning to blow up
π best april fools joke ema i right
Yeah I'm aware
haaa
Ah, thats why im getting constant discord noises while trying to hear footsteps in cs.
This isnt metastruck
Welp im off back to the game, cya.
wtf happened
Was that april fools or did the admin done goofed up?
Blame dan
Dan you done goofed up
that was scary
that was funny
Im pretty sure it was Dan goofing up now that I think about it
It was pretty funny but also rip adv dev
btw who did this
Dan
Don't fire Dan
F
apparently, was based on a misunderstanding about the idea that it'd only ping people currently in the dev-advanced channel according to ruubick over in public lobby...but yes, that was some chaos >_>;
He's great, I love him, happy little mistakes
what a day to make a goof 
w h y
Holy that channel is blessed
oof rip development advanced
That channel gonna get π
now its meme paradise :/
that was an experience to say the least though...can't say i've ever seen a channel go from 0-250mph in the space of 10 seconds
either memes or screetching
"why's the scrollbar getting smaller...oh."
oof
Yeah i guess they punishing those that said inapropiate stuff and delete the rest
oof
Well... that was truly something...
I saw people saying the n word for example so i guess they gonna be thrwomped
the cleanup's begun, if anyone's bored enough to watch messages disappearing over there π
nope
https://i.imgur.com/8ZD22qx.png vrc staff atm
othey are trashing the channel
So I have a question, after placing the animation controller on the duplicate model, do I remove it before I begin uploading it or does it remain on the duplicate model?
@vivid umbra you forgot something. He did ANOTHER PING saying thicc bois only
it was not just the bug ping
@flint basin if the duplicate model isn't under the avatar descriptor you're trying to upload, there should be no reason to remove it
Well the damage had been done so i doubt it mattered that much π
Okay, thank you.
Still. It isnβt the end of the world for a couple of pings.
Its not a mistake at that point
that was done on purpose
nor is everyones reaction
the 2nd one got everyone going
@vocal shard Please dont lie about that stuff π€
not a lie
you can't make this shit up
they can spam but cant take the spam back xd
It was a mistake
Spam successfully taken back
praise tupper's fast work π
π
Praise Tupper 
Good job Ruubick
@modern sand Can you talk to Dan about the 2nd ping about thicc <something chat moved to fast to see> ping
he pinged us twice.
i w a s h e r e
Ruubick, do you enjoy being sneezed on? Tupper says he doesnt
@vocal shard Last warning, please stop
Stop what
im confused
uh oh
no pinging admins is a rule 
wait rlly, that's my b
most servers let you ping admins for issues
Lol someone didnt read the rules
@vocal shard careful with pinging any member of the VRChat Team or chat mods needlessly, yeah -- and i imagine that dan would already know to be careful about it at this point
what are rules
most servers dont have 20k people online
ruuubick hates to see the ping icon
Its not an issue. They are well aware of what happened but it was an accident, it is what it is
it is a issue
when your a server with over 100k members and you ping everyone 2 times
it was an epic gamer moment tbh
Regardless dude, it isnβt the end of world if you have the little red 1 next to a server
tell that to the staff team
there about to ban me "for a little red 1"
so i guess it is the end of the world, Sears.
we already dealt mob justice
It was here, not everyone, and it was an honest mistake.
whenever a server can't handle pinging well it gets notifications turned off, needless to say I've had mine off here for a long time, just do that if you want to be in the discord but only check it when curious
Jaime, Jaime, Jaime. He pinged us twice. One for the bug - understandable. One for thicc <something chat was moving faster then usane bult>
isnt here exact same as everyone in this case
in this case yes
here is 18k, everyone is 65k+
@sonic cove not quite -- it'd throw in everyone who's also offline
slight difference
Hey Ruubick why is there a 30 second cooldown

Because people can't behave
grab a snack and go do something fun it's only a discord
The thing is that the first Ping was an honest mistake. Stuff couldnt be stopped then, evil had been done. Better to play it off as an aprils fools to make it a fun situation. It certainly didnt make the situation any worse.
Its happened ONCE. Chill. Its nit a weekly occurance
That part was a joke
TWICE Mayb get your facts right ffs
@covert linden It should be though. Would be a neat prank
But if you have a canny about triggers, send it our way
It was hilarous
π
the salt on both sides π 
Nick the second one was the Joke. The first part was a mistake. Be honest. What did the second Ping change?
Well the first one was a mistake.
He wanted to know more about a bug
the 2nd was disgusting for a 64k server
A ping isnt the end of the world
tell the staff that kicked me for it that @covert linden
Oddly enough a ping made it look like the end of the world on that channel
there were 2 ping's the first was the mistake one and the second just repeated it but in a funnier way i believe it said something along the lines of: GIMMEE THA BOOOOGSSS
so yeah
@cold saddle π π π
that's hypocrisy at best Mayb.
@vocal shard because YOURE not allowed to. Staff issss
Noobody wants your pings but if irs from dan senpai he can ping us 400 times its pretty hot
BOOOOOGS
no he can't. if he wants to be should be flamed for it
because that's retarted.
FOR A PARTNERED SERVER KEEP IN MIND
WITH 65K MEMBERS
xd
Woah be a little kinder with your words there
Woosh
To be honest it seems like you just want others to have a bad time cuz u did wrong ones
@vocal shard @ here only pings 18k
Yeah that's still not good
you don't ping @here for GIMMEE THA BOOOOGSSS
ofcourse its not good but it was a mistake
Can we just drop the topic?
You have been warned for it already...
U cant be throwing the r around like that man thats worse than the ping
no its not Jerome. How is "GIMMEE THA BOOOOGSSS" a honest mistake.
oh crap i pinged sorry jerome i forgot there my b
What's your goal here Nick, or do you just want to be offended and have everyone know it
jesus christ...
ok this is epic
Leave rhe server if u care so much
Well no i like getting pinged about the Vr Chat updates
Just not for "GIMMEE THA BOOOOGSSS"
Dan senpai got me good and I havent been able to ask about his sneezes yet..
Then mute every channel except announcements and move on
Oh woe is me I got pinged D:
Can we please just kick the guy?
Ruuubicks gave him 'his last warning' already.
Him forcing the topic is just making this place more toxic and its annoying..
"Only" 18k. Pretty sure it warns you what you're about to do, too.
I'm a little hungry
Here is the thing @modest epoch, i shouldn't have to do that. That's my point. I shouldn't have to mute every channel so I don't get pinged for "GIMMEE THA BOOOOGSSS"
what ever imma get some coffee cheers π»
I turn away to let unity upload and now we have discorse β’ occurring o-o
no id rather watch this than youtube
I leave everyone pings on for announcements and that has been very useful so far
wonderful, wonderful discourse over discord.
Oh, it's April Fools. ...
Dokay I thought it was still march
Listen. Humans do mistakes. If you keep complaining you wont have to worry about pings from this server in the future anyway. @vocal shard
I'd still love to be able to mute the bot
You shouldnt have to but, sometimes things you shouldnt have to are probably better to do :P
i mean true
so is the april fools joke that vrchat will be doing include breaking vrchat all together
Is the April Fool's joke Discourse β’ ?
I think better choices in development would be the april fools joke 
Are we in a perpetual april fools day for eternity then?
Introduce cloning but no ID blocking, introduce optimization guidelines the whole time ignoring giving any info about optimization til a year after it became popular, the entirety of december where people couldn't login for weeks, etc
lol what
how do they not have time to develop stuff, they're literally always doing that...
lul that was 637 messages that got deleted from #development-advanced
"til a year after" ayyy lmao ?!?!
...how are they not always developing? They're game devs working on a game...
probably the fact its their job fez
They're working on backend stuff but not really on the game itself is what he meant
if you hire developers they are likely developing stuff
π€ we just got a new performance thing, we get something new fairly often. by choices I mean all the things that lack foresight that just get thrown in and all the smaller, weird things that are never done. you can't be online in discord while working from home? π€
what kind of mic should I get for vrchat. I was told that my mic isn't very good for it
honig do you have to be jobless to use discord
where?The place your work specifically, sure. not every place is the same.
epic
yikes
Once a feature is out of the gate it's never getting changed. Open beta is final. The trust system, performance ranks, the particle limiter and many other things have not been tweaked even one bit since release. And now that the dynamic bone limiter is technically in the game, it will never be changed either. We will never see the ability to edit the values ingame, or to limit friends and ourselves differently than others.
All jobs aren't the same, to assume so is just silly
there is a skeleton in us all you cant suppress it thats basically why smh
a lot of jobs don't care if your on social media if your still getting work done
It's their policy of "release now, tell them we'll fix it later", basically.
@cold saddle Meanwhile i get payed to actually watch youtube, reddit stuff and look at a dashboard and watch some numbers jump and down there...
@umbral reef, what job is that?
@umbral reef where do we sign up for this? 
Companies are FAR from the same. And being strickt isnt what works for most.
This slowmode man, can we lower it already?
That's what I don't get about the "working" life. People are forced to spend 8 hours in the office, even though a lot of people do jack shit in the last 3 hours.

that job tho. I'm interested. lmao
I wish I could just work normally 4 hours a day and then go home.
Unless you're doing a job that requires a ridiculous amount of attention, like enough that you literally can't be on your phone, it's not really a big deal
Become a lifeline for a healthcare robot.
Im the main interaction guy, so every new action the bot can do has to be checked by me. And im the main guy for reporting bugs, logging them, communicating them and picking out users problems vs technical problems for a product without a manual...
Also more fitting for #general-media
woah. thanks for the tip. will keep that in mind since I'm going for computer science in college. yeet
So hey ruuubicks and tupper. Can we lower the slowmode yet?
no
It depends on the job. For them, especially since it's part of their own product, it makes sense they can have discord open
Come back tomorrow
Also not to mention, developers often take 10 minute breaks in-between. You can easily go on Discord in that time
i'd actually imagine discord to be a much better communication platform when compared to the nightmare that is windows outlook... π€¦
VR conference maybe?
face-to-face is the most information-rich medium, yeah, but it also doesn't really leave behind any records -- text-based communication often works better when you need stuff documented or recorded to be referenced later, like bug reports or code snippet fixes
the search and pinning features here are quite powerful for keeping things organised
What happened
wait. there was an April fools joke vrchat did?
a little misunderstanding with how the "at here" ping works, which kinda snowballed very, very rapidly...
lmao
now that's an apt description if i've ever heard one π
^
I watched it unfold and literally disconnect me from the server, it was truly something
i didn't get dc'd, but the speed at which the scrollbar shrunk was staggering
The server literally disappeared from my server list
At first I thought wow didn't think our Sunday dev tweet had that much of an effect on bringing in new development passion into the community
Vrpill
there was a calm before storm for a solid 5 seconds before the channel exploded
Then it suddenly all made sense
So ey pill Can we get a lower slowmode now please?
dan's got a talent for stirring passion, that's for sure π
I do appreciate him popping in occasionally
i've been authorized to bring it down to 15 seconds
β€ tnx
π TEH BOOOOOGS 
really hard to log in today in vrchat

need to restart game few times to log my self..
ok
yβall need any unpaid interns to get your coffee
I'd like to apply for Standard VRChat User That Ocasionaly Helps People with a minimum payment of 0β¬ per month.
what's the job requirements for "that monkey that breaks everything?"
Must be able to break everything, demonstration on interview necessary.
Why do i have a distinct feeling that images are going to be outlawed on that channel now...
i mean, it's in lockdown right now to cool off from all the spam -- and let's face it, a picture is worth a thousand words, so that don't help 
That's called disruptive technologies and it's actually a thing lmao
Does anyone know how to fix permanent "ghosting" in the headset after your frame rate drops? I'm on Oculus
@ivory folio Its ASW and i think you can hit left alt and numpad 1 to disable it
not sure if they removed that feature though, but i think there are tools that expose oculus settings.
lemme search it up and i will let u know
That's what I thought it was, but I've tried playing with it on and off and it happens both times
Disable any vsynch you might be using if possible
after my fps drops, I will be permanently ghosting until I restart everything
what about async reprojection in steamvr?
Doesn't matter, oculus over rides it.
it does matter, turn them both off
set oculus asw in the oculus debug tool or install https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/5okoju/oculus_tray_tool/
do both of those programs save the settings automatically and do I need to set those each time I start vr?
I check them every time I log on, they have a habit of switching back sometimes
The easiest fix is to play the oculus store version which doesnβt use it at all
Hm second thought I think he just means low fps. A lot of people perceive low fps as ghosting
I have a question though. I really like oculus storeβs method of dealing with lag (last frame is just painted on sphere) much better than the SteamVR box. Is there any way I can have he oculus use that in the steam version?
Itβs the main reason the oculus store version seems much smoother / less laggy
Whatever itβs doing seems to be disabled on SteamVR in exchange for the melting effect
It's not low fps, it happens after I experience frame drops and then my fps goes back up to 90
but it will be "ghosting" until I basically restart everything
So you get it while your fps is 90?
Yeah
All the options to do with reprojection in steamvr advanced settings are disabled and oculus asw is off too
oho
I have only noticed it recently and I don't think I've changed any settings
My guess is you arenβt really getting 90. Without any sort of frame recovery, frame loss looks like ghosting
Especially if you are just slightly below 90
Reprojection will stop it from shaking
And I've just had to restart because of it and it is still ghosting at the oculus home. Even after unplugging/replugging/restarting oculus
My verdict is low fps. Try to look into why you might be getting low fps
There's no reason why I should have low fps. I have a pretty good pc and it only starts when I start losing frames in vrchat. Then it doesn't stop
Vrchat isnt the most optimized. Even a super pc can be brought down by it
I don't think this is an optimisation issue, something isn't right
Well I donβt wanna argue, what you describe is what low fps looks like in vr.
You mean the jitter when you move your head?
Yeah
That is triggered by high GPU usage and generally never goes away. It only happens in VRChat
Could maybe be triggered by high CPU usage as well. Either way it sucks because I have to restart my game
Could be related to the insane lag issue when you close the SteamVR overlay
I have had this issue happen very reliably when a friend switched into a super laggy shader that duplicated his model like a hundred times.
He gets it himself too
I have to pretty much restart my whole pc. At the moment my oculus home is jittering and nothing else is open. And I don't use the steamvr overlay
@median basalt Doesnt it happen because dynamic bone calculations are trying to catch up again and they cant because well... Cpu is dying already π
Tried googling to see if Adaptive frame sync would be beneficial for VR headsets but then the reasons why it wouldn't work so well made my head hurt. VR is complicated
That's also a factor. Dynamic bone update rate is either limited or forced to 60, not sure which.
And then because of how it works, it tries to "catch up" when you're below that. So dynamic bone can lag you a ton
I think the cap was 60 for them
But even then, this bug isn't related to dynamic bone.
I just restarted vrc and it is fine for a minute or so. And now it is back to jittering. I don't know what else to do. GPU and CPU usage are pretty normal looking for vrc
Has a recent update caused this to happen more often? No one else I know seems to be experiencing it
@median basalt It's limited.
Can anyone advise me what to do to help this? It's getting frustrating
It can go up to 60 but can be decreased
From what i recall based on what tupper stated on some canny i can't recall, it's limited to 60 but is in no way forced onto it
Henlo meh bruddas
Hi
https://youtu.be/pHLqiMbWdbk woot pretty sure something usefull is in these π
I have had luck putting vrchat in the background and then putting it in focus again but usually closing the game out via SteamVR panic button and relaunching fixes it
h
And it only happens on SteamVR never happens on oculus home
Or oculus store whatever the correct term is
day 2 of vrc oculus being broken
how will u survive
by starting it iver steamvr shitty overlay since the devs dont seem to do anything regarding oculus
feelsbad
.-.
it wont load when trying to log in on my end
I spy a nep
Goodbye Vrchat
@true sky can you post an avatar ID we can check with on your canny ?
Oculus vr was working fine yesterday night
who has a vive?
Did anyone get a random friend request from tothelimit
yes
Do not accept it
i already talked to them and ended up blocking them
It's a client
Hey guys what do think the quality of vrchat would be like on the quest??,just want to hear others thoughts
I don't know
I guess
trash tbh
Edit: not by any fault of VRC, it's just got lower specs
im curious just for the sake of it. i was somewhat interested in buying it as like a mobile set that i could use when I travel for work... but the valve index teaser pretty much killed any interest i had in the quest
Yeah I havenβt checked the valve index yet,whatβs it like
we didn't get any info other than a picture the other day teasing the release. and a few leaks before. so we don't know for sure. the only things we know is it uses lighthouse tracking, has knuckles controllers, and may have a multi layered lense system
why is the sdk so slow
Seems pretty good from the sounds of it so far but I guess weβll just have to wait and see
My interest in the Quest was killed off as soon as they revealed that it had no PC connectivity
Yeah same
That would have made it a good headset, instead the Quest sucks and the Rift S is a downgrade.
I just thought it might be sort of handy since I could bring it around with me
But then I got concerned about the graphics of the games on it since it has no pc connectivity
Quest games look awful
I consider the current generation of headsets to be the bare minimum graphics-wise already.
it sucks because the quest optics and screens are pretty good. but the hardware just can't keep up
My rift broke recently so I was gonna trade it in for the quest when it releases but Iβm rlly ns now
You mean the res might be better, but the polys, hoo boy
Did you see that "gun" that they had to get down to like 25 tris to fit on the Quest?
Iβm just hoping if I buy this I get somewhat the same experience as I did on my rift
Yeah at this point Iβm confused on what vr headset I should get
I mean the reason my headset broke was because of the wire that plugged in to my pc
Yeah your right
I mostly use my headset to play beat saber or vrchat chat so I mainly just want something that can run it at somewhat similar quality
Yeah I sorta got the idea when I seen Robo recall on the teaser
Yeah then I can always just get a replacement for my rift if I decide not to get a new headset
Made my first avatars in VRChat lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTnXDWTe0Og&feature=youtu.be
I can't login
fucking reeee
did what it says in #vrchat-support , checked for integrity of files, nothing
@modern sand Sorry for the late response to your message. I have updated the canny with 2 blueprint ids. 1 has no fingerbones setup and 1 has fingerbones setup.
thanks
don't worry we'll just test with the avatar
k
Anybody want an easter egg hunt world? π° π₯ π€
Fun question: whatβs the weirdest avatar youβve seen someone have?
One of @humble cape's avatars like the lady mushroom
a guy with a big red head
best avatars are the scuffed ones
why doesn't some models have dynamic bones for me?
there's a limiter now, and it probably had more than the default.
oooh
You can find it in the top right of the safety settings, after you click/press on the Safety tab
Does anyone know where they get the Hannah Quinn avatars
I havenβt been able to find the world and Iβd love to see or know where those avatars come from. Iβve only gotten one avatar from a person. All I know the creator is named Hannah Quinn
@vocal shard no, if your friend does scratch models he should be more professional about it and try maybe writing up contracts if hes constantly getting screwed
report it to the payment processor.
You can hire a paralegal to do it for you
if its through paypal your completely out of luck, they always give in tot he claimant
that's not always true
read up about it, its very much real
yet every time it's happened to me, i've had it reversed
You're very lucky then sir.
it's not luck, just prove you did the work.
regardless, write up a contact from a paralegal, and you'll be good.
paypal is siding with creators more nowadays, been like this for about 2-ish years. the used to be bad about it.
If your doing it from scratch you should be able to afford it, was about 130$ for me to have one written up @vocal shard
@vocal shard itβs in Nek0βs world
paypal seems 50/50, if its an actual product being shipped they'll usually side with a consumer, however if its a comission, if you can prove the project has been completed they'll side with the creator
I just got this game today and I've been playing it all day XD
Awesome!
Do I use the same animator controller that I used for one prop animation or do I use a separate one?
is it possible to be able to use my hands or have some sort of hand censor?
in VRChat
Sure, if you have a VR setup (I assume you're playing on desktop now)
(yes I am)
I can't say I've ever heard of someone just playing with touch controllers and desktop but that would be interesting
What
What headset do you have?
So you have a headset but not controllers is what you're saying
its the type you would put your phobe into XD
You can stream your computer to your phone and it works sort of (but not very well)
mmmmm
As far as I know, there is no way to use hand controllers with that sort of headset
I heard you can buy them
Theyd need to have tracking via headset tho..
You can buy hand controllers, but they likely won't work with the phone headset (as far as I know)
lol

is the n word racist if you yourself are black?
Do you think that's a wise conversation to start
lmao
I dunno, just asking, I dont get this racist thing really, feels like an american thing
here in EU people arent really worried about it
It applies to well.. Afro-Americans..
I was gonna say something but the topic is controvertial so ima not
if its making people uncomfortable I'll stop
Can't go further than that as it'll just make people uncomfortable
It's enough of a controversial subject that this is as far as it's going.
You can instead discuss how I am a terrible person for liking mango juice on cereal.
Or Pinapple on pizza
What the fuck
EW GALLIUM whyyyyyy
You monster. What cereal have you so brutally murdered
AlsowtfGalliumwhymangojuiceincereal?
...my boyfriends asking waht type of cereal because he wants to try it
@dark narwhal im SLeeping u can get ut own answer
gallium, thats a sin
rice krispies basically
Can anyone explain how VRchat is going to run on the Oculus Quest when my computer with a 1080 and 32 gigs of ram is lucky to 45 fps most of the time in big rooms or worse?
upgrade cpu
no one said its gonna run well 
By turning avatars off
They havent disclosed any information. It'll likely be very different from the vrc we know and love
Altspace really pushes the Oculus Go to the limit
dude why are trusted users such dicks?
Some of the nicest people ive met in vrchat are trusted users, I think you just got a case of bad luck
Kermit I re,e,her you
Aah
Cool s, spell icup and silly bands, what does this mean to you?
some dude called "y0" is going around in presentation room instances lagging the hell everyone out even if we have safety settings set to maximum
Report it to moderation@vrchat.com
Make sure to fill out important details like video, pictures, name of offender, action of said offender, etc.
#moderation-reports can help you go through the process
He's spamming the clear button for every user every frame using a client from the looks.
hey guys
whereβs lighting i need that channel DX
Alright, if I've blocked someone, don't let their goddamn portals appear to me. This is a massive issue.
Well, you should post it in the VRChat Canny, hopefully it might get implemented
Oh hey, I look up slightly and it's THE SAME GUY AS PEOPLE WERE JUST REPORTING YESTERDAY. Y0.
I vouch for Ice
I checked it out, it could use a update
Yeah.. though what I would want to see there were publicly documented actions he/she attends or holds.
Hello 
talk to the hand ππ»
@queen mango i could dm

@sonic cove #general-media please
VRChat is fun.
I was with this guy that was showing me around.
I'm using it on a laptop not a VR headset so my avatar can't be as expressive.
Just got disconnected for the third time. Anyone else getting regular disconnects?
Fourth disconnect. Surely I'm not the only one? Only been on for an hour and I've been disconnected four times. Everything else is operating fine.
for some reason I cant upload avatars I hope it's just the server being messed up
@inner blade try restarting your router and else try the steps on #vrchat-support
@royal dragon what is not happening or what error shows up
Only VRChat is disconnecting, nothing else is giving a problem. Either way, I got disconnected a fifth time. I'm off VRChat for the night. Disconnecting every 10 to 15 minutes is ridonkulous. lol
It's your connection to the vrc servers/Amazon servers then.
An easy way to get a new connection is by disconnecting the router and stuff
Rip
Yea servers are having issues atm. Can't change worlds or join off anyone.
If u believe anything is possible
Itβs me π little red loli
Yeees little tomato π
π€ Iβve Been found
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Does any1 know where to find the manish / greenboy skin? The skin that has loud music and stuff. I want to use it with my friend in a private lobby but i cant find the island with it
World*
Hey guys
hey thatguy ^^
hey guys what vr headset do you recommend ?
Oculus Rift
Cheap and good. Get one quickly because they have stopped making them in favor of the inferior Rift S
yes
it is a very affordable vr headset
I wish someone would make a hybrid inside out and outside in tracking system
@median basalt They don
Imagine a quest like headset that can be taken anywhere and play. While also having the ability to boost graphics when a good enough pc is available. More acculturate tracking at the gaming rig and amazing profitability and ease of use away from the rig.
crpa* they dont sell them anymore. they had location locked it but now from what ive seen even those places dont have em anymoer
Ain't that what I heard from the Vive Cosmos?
You can get one for almost DOUBLE new
Does it support outside in tracking?
just out of curiousity
what are you guy's favorite worlds?
Hit enter too early on that one
They still sell them here
Oh really? good to know, I watched someone yesterday come and complain because they were selling the day before where they were, and suddenly it stopped
They're location blocking it, I just dont know what locations they havent blocked yet
They were from Sweden
You can get one second hand, other than that I'd wait off personally on buying a headset until VALVE is announced with a price
thanks
That icon is cool as heckie @queen prawn
Based on the discussion yesterday, I'm waiting to see what Valve has. Def gonna try and get the knuckles no matter what system I purchase.
yeet
Lol
Yeah I'll for sure get knuckles. I have the rig for the resolution the headset has, so i might get it
good choice
Slow mode... >->
I haven't really been bugged by the vives resolution, but i would like an upgrade. We'll see the price π€·
My guess is $600 for the entire package, $400-500 for the knuckles + HMD, and probably $150 for the knuckles
I would not be surprised if we saw a price match on the Vive Pro for an $800 package or more ... keep in mind that it will likely have better specs, but also including controllers and lighthouses, which the Vive Pro currently does not bundle
That would be extremely competitive pricing if they deliver on most of the hype surrounding them
To the point where it would be foolish to buy the Vive Pro
Right but vive pro isn't for the general VR market, it's for business
It's high spec/high price because it's not meant to be in the same space as the other headsets
If they're trying to be competitive with vive, they're competitive with the wrong company.
They should not fight for the lower end market though...
Casual reminder the original Vive bundle price was 800$ at launch.
WMR is doing that and well...
They should fight for the middle ground, and middle ground for me isn't $800
What is your reasoning for them fighting for the middle ground
@kind wedge They had a REALLY bad mass production sadly though.
And Oculus has that stuff down way better. Its why it took them so long to go down in there price.
I'm thinking they'll be lower than vive pro, but not much. They said before that they want to make the best headset on the market
-.-
I expect Steam to be around that same price for everything but with proper production
(The full bundle that is, knuckle, tracers and headset)
Oculus isn't currently filling that spot, and their focus on low end is only reaffirmed with the rift S.
And i see them selling just the headset to really to cut into the vive market
It is my understanding that Valve is not targeting the low end/mobile market. The Index is a enthusiast, prosumer device intended for superior input/visual fidelity than other headsets on the market. It's going to be expensive. This will flood the market with cheap used vives though, just buy one of those if you're desperate :P
Because from the looks of things, it is a much better headset than the vive pro in most regards. Definitely more to manufacture
It'll def be pricy..
I have doubts that VR tech companies will aim for the middle ground
Seeing as, there aren't many offerings in that range, just the Vive Focus AFAIK
Oculus is taking the cheaper market by storm, and Valve is pandering to the enthusiasts who have yet to get a decent, 2nd generation HMD
There is no real middle ground market...
Or you can afford an expensive PC and with that earn enough to buy a proper headset
Or you are lower end in the tech range and want a headset that actually works for your thing...
And casual is being taken up by the Quest and PSVR now
Im more hyped with the valve index about how there glass tech works
They got some interesting patens now π
That's what's got me pumped
Lets just hope its not like all steam hardware π
We've seen the RND process of the knuckles
The only thing i hope is they don't rush it just to beat the market... Like if the sudden teaser and release date was a last idea to keep competitive
Unless they deliver on what they promise, I'll stay with saving up for the Odyssey+
They mentioned they learned from artifact
Well all vive tech has been really great so far
Odyssey+ will definitely still be cheaper elire
Quick announcement/release is the exact opposite of artifacts announcement
So i dont expect lower quality then current vive pro
Yeah it has same resolution as vive pro
Yeah.. though so far, they mentioned that the Pro Eye will still be meant for the enterprise.. though I do envision them releasing it for the consumer market.
Another note: That foveated rendering stuff was old Nvidia stuff, probably 5-6 years old now
-> its usually always that much if you think hard about it...
The surge of 2nd hand headsets that will soon be available is definitely a nice low key bonus of all this stuff.
Will help the consumer base in general grow, which is good for developers, which is good for all VR owners.
Funny how there's already second hand Rift's and Vives starting to be sold online and lower prices than before. Can only imagine more and more will soon come
Well, technically they ain't a black market
Just more of a shop for used stuff that are seeking a second chance
Hey Dirk ^^
Jamie I hope you have a wonderful day u good darn bean you
You too 
oh always
Night Elire
G'night Jamie
Gn man

Yum
I mean, if you buy a second hand headset - wouldn't you just wash it really well?
I wash my headset after uses where i sweat and it's only me and my partner playing it. π€£
(Spray it with glass cleaner and wipe it down, anyway.)
I dont I like death
I dance in my wmr and I just wipe the screens
Also youre not suppose to use glass cleaner on the oculus
The Microsoft store where they let people from the public try out the Vive and other headsets uses baby wipes.
put it in the washing machine
Is the foam on the vive removeable?
@vocal shard As long as you let it dry fully out it'd be perfectly fine, but a bit rusty inside maybe.
@opaque hawk Yeah it's removeable.
Thank goodness, summer is just around the corner.
alexia in here trying to get people to toast their headsets. It's such low power that I bet it wouldn't die. it'd just not work while it was wet, then work a few days later when fully dried out.
By the same token: DO NOT
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Does anyone use glasses with their vr
Iβm having problems with my glasses misting up
I find the Vive really awkward to use with glasses. I just take them off.
It is awkward but itβs blurry if I donβt
But I'm only -1 diopters in each eye so I can get away with it.
I thought the vive was the best for glasses
Hopefully the valve headset is glasses friendly π
I use my Vive with glasses just fine. Never had an issue.
It's also adjustable to allow for extra room if you need it.
I use my wmr without glasses
I lost my glasses
It's entirely possible to use the Vive with glasses but I don't want to scratch my glasses, and I like taking the HMD off or looking under them sometimes. With glasses it holds on to the glasses when I slide them off or try to look under. Just awkward.
I guess you must have bigger glasses than me.
I wish I could go without I should probs try lenses
I have a big noggin
Mine don't touch the lenses nor grab onto the headset. I fly in and out of it like putting on a hat.
I mean, hats are a problem for me too unless they're the stretchy kind.
I still wear glasses in mine. (I just assumed the vive was better in that regard)
I've always through contacts would be nice for VR, but I'm both lazy and a cheapskate, so I stick with glasses.
They scare me
If you use contacts sparingly, a set can last a long time.
I think it's like a dollar a day to wear contacts with a subscription to some services.
My own glasses fit alright enough in a Rift, but I have always heard that Vive was the more glasses friendly option.
I used to wear contacts for days at a time. luckily I didn't have some flesh eating amoeba blind me.
I wish I could just adjust focus in the vive. Only IPD. π
I should get another pair
Dollar a day is still quite a bit to me, on my budget.
Iβve had a vive since Friday, got it when my wmr finally kicked the bucket. Having the ability to lose head tracking really sucks
Got a 10% raise this year, meaning I now earn over Β£6000 a year. Spending a couple hundred on contacts would be at the expense of something else.
akalink: Once you figure out the best lighthouse placement and / or cover up any huge windows you'll be good I think. But yeah it sucks.
It sucks when you get low framerate and it just either freezes one frame and makes you sick or goes grey.
Like keeping this PC viable for VR.
Iβve already fixed my lighthouse placement, no more head drifts
Hopefully they donβt come back
Yikes. No working person should make that little money.
π€ hard agree
could be part time
Quite possible
Part time yes.
Makes sense
45% of my yearly earnings go on rent. :v
Mood
Fortunately my rent is shared three ways, or else the true total would be more like 120% of my years earnings.
I wanna move out so bad but I have to get a work visa to lvie in murica eek
I rent out a room, its quiet and nice. Would like to get a condo someday.
I need to find some weird house that happens to have a 10x10m padded cell as one of it's rooms.
Not many on the market.
Dream house.
Maybe I can buy a dojo or something.
Hexany audio has a dedicated vr room. I assume to test the vr games they work on.
I didn't clue into it being for VR and just thought it was for kinks for a moment. Everybody has their thing. π€£
I do room scale VR in an apartment that barely fits the minimum room scale room, and it works out okay. I do have to keep in mind not hitting things when moving around though.
I just heard cyanlaser updated his world vrhat with more props. If anyone reading this hasnβt been there I highly recommend checking it out.
what world, 'vrhat' ?
Itβs a dress up world. You can take props and have them stick to you. Like hats, glasses, etc
My playspace is a decent 2x2 meters floor space with a bit of safe arm swing space on most sides of that.
So I can't complain, but I'd certainly love to have the free walking freedom I've seen some people demonstrate.
WOAH
When I met Kung for the first time in VoidClub, it was an impressive little surprise when he suddenly pulled off a knee slide across the dance floor.
Hehe... I am sorry. I should have expected that to be too much.
I only just noticed recently you can use the grip button to make props stick to you in the hub world.
I want to see a kneeslide on vr lol
Lol I have a bit above average roomscale but I'm a giant
In fact the bigger issue is getting too immersed and bashing in the ceiling
I'm 6'6" and we only have I think 8 foot high ceilings
Thatβs why my boyfriend doesnβt play onward anymore
Now I'm thinking of that mega-cut of people yeet-ing stuff in their rooms.
Thats 2m righto?
Just... traumatic memories of my cutie full-force slamming the Vive controllers into a metal shelf more than once while playing Beat Saber π
Yes
6'6" is 2 M yeah
I'm really amazed how solid the Vive controllers are. Not a scratch!
LOL I had a glass lightbulb protector in my office
Iβm 4β10, weβre an odd couple
Keyword: had. Played rec room and smashed it when tossing a grenade, cut my hands
Oh yeah day 1 i got a controller protector. I was bashing walls so much and I'm so happy I did
Just little silicon protectors LOL
Ah would that actually work
Like the protectors for Wiimotes?
Yeah, that was enough for me
I always keep what I'm doing IRL in mind. hehe
I've gotten used to it but it was a rough first month
I've heard when I play beatsaber I get dangerously close to bashing in the walls
And i ruined an FC run of angel voices expert + by bonking into the wall
I like VRC home cus it doesn't lag when dancing
/shrug
I just discovered VGL has lockable rooms with a hot tub
Or spin the bottle
So hilarious, they have beer pong too
Oh, the possibilities... 
A err, strip club too if youβre into that π
OwO
The music in the main room is awesome though, cascada
Usually cpus dont need that much attention for VR
Welcome to VRChat tho-
Mine does. i7 2600k. 6 years old
The one Vr game where the CPU is important
Same. My stuff is super old.
I mean anything more recent will be fine for Vr, but when it comes to GPUs it's a whole new world
Plan is CPU first, for VR chat. Then GPU later on, depending on how future headsets and games require.
I've a 1070 and it's doing fine. Need new CPU, DDR4 motherboard and ram
Currently the only VR game where my GPU struggles enough to hamper the experience enough is Gun-Heart.
A 1070 should still last you a good while yeah.
I built mine for the art I do, which is why I got an rtx card
Works fine for VR, I'm lucky with that π
I'm currently hanging on with a 960.
Rtx 2070 and I've been running great
Oof, my pal is running that too. Puts a desk fan on his PC for better cooling
im getting the 1660ti
That's a good choice!
Doesn't get me 90fps on much, but still enough for a comfortable 45+reprojection on most games.
1070 with i7 CPU and you should get 45-90fps in most places.
1070 should do well above 45, yikes
Yeah.. places without avatars
It should, but you have to factor in the optimization of the maps, and peoples avatars.
I feel like my system is a decent argument against those random VR detractors trying to claim VR will never take off because you need a super computer.
It's a seven year old desktop that cost me Β£700 to build back then, and has only seen one upgrade (the GPU) since, for Β£200.
oh DUDE I've put together pc builds for $400 that could do VR
Welll Kuto the Gen matters more than just i7
Not good VR, but still vr nonetheless
I didn't even time the GPU upgrade well at all. Had I waited 8 months I'd have gotten a 1060 for the same price (like my brother did)
I currently have a 1050, intel 630 that runs vr, and an intel 7k and I get about 30fps avg
is it me or is vrchat downrn?
The bot says 182 users... so, yes. That's definitely gone down in some manner.
Incoming flood of "is it down?" perhaps?
Steam went down earlier
!online
There are 569 users in VRChat currently
F a l s e
Wait... but I'm watching someone streaming VR-Chat right now... >_>
I can't connect rn and for me the website is down
is it just me or i can't join into vrchat?
Try to disconnect and reconnect I did it and I'm playing rn
like it get stuck in the loading screen for a very long time
that happens to me very often..
way too long, and also i did disconnecting and reconnecting
Well my answers been solved since announcement was given
They just made an announcement, they're looking into it.
@cinder geyser Read announcements.
Anyone else having issues getting invites
I think VRC has connection issues atm
Yes
check announcements lol
REEEEEE
Something is certainly off, but the games not down entirely.
A friend has been streaming it for the last three hours uninterrupted.
i got in while loading one of those loading boards said "i am a announcement fdjkfdjkfdjk" it scared me a bit and i logged real quick
@chilly current Thats a loading in problem. Nothing to worry about.
It's basically the placeholder text.
ok whew

@worthy oracle Thanks<3 so much β€
@vocal shard i forgot what I said, but psst youβre a legend and have a great day :b
its stabilized ? β€
seems to be, go try
friend requests don't show up for a long time, been waiting over 2 minutes and the person and i both send friend request
not recieving invites either
i asked a friend over discord and they said they never got it
Upvote this issue so the problem gets worked on: https://vrchat.canny.io/bug-reports/p/invite-request-notifications-do-not-show-up
i get invite requests alright
maybe because my friend spans through like 20 to make sure it actually sends
well, invites actually
The notification system is all tied together to the best of my knowledge so this bug report is likely the best way to get them to work on the issue
Okay did they break the camera in the latest update? No matter what I do, I can't press any of the buttons on the left side of the camera.
Or is it just the camera being clunky as usual. I was talking to a dev a couple weeks ago and he said that it's hard to make a refined camera UI with all the backwards compatibility VRChat needs. BUT WE NEED SOMETHING BETTER THAN THIS! Yes, I'm not expecting a fancy camera with the features of a high end DSLR, but I want to be able to press the buttons.
!online
There are 5848 users in VRChat currently
Whatβs better for VRChat, Vive or Vive Pro?
You thinking about buying, or?
if you plan on buying a HMD wait for the Valve Index details
Yesss ^
its likely gonna wipe every others HMD's asses ^^
Thats why I asked ;P
I can't wait
It SHOULD be out June something, but they said official release date could change
Yeah thinking of buying and I saw a lot of mixed answers between the Vive and Vive pro, some are saying the difference isnβt that significant in resolution while some are saying the pro is way more immersive that you wouldnβt want to go back to a Vive.
Yeah I'd wait for the index. And as for between the vive and vive pro, they're pretty much the same just with a bit higher resolution and a couple other extras on the pro
Pro is soo expensive though
I use an odyssey and odyssey+ which is the same screens as the pro. It is an increase, but not enough for that price imo
I have the rank Know User but idk how to get the Trusted User rank :/
Just keep playing. You don't "need" to do anything specific for trusted
Does the odyssey have any full body tracking? or do the vive strapped trackers work with the odyssey?
It does not have FBT, you must get vive trackers AND lighthouses
Can those work with the odyssey?
You can use the vive full body with any headset if you have the trackers and lighthouses. But still. I'd wait for the valve index. It uses the same tracking system as the vive, but with many upgrades
The Odyssey itself is a self contained tracking system
Yeah Iβll definitely wait a couple of months
It'll most likely be so worth it
I really hope so because headsets are coming out left and right and itβs becoming harder and harder to know which is the right one to go for.
I believe it will be, its already fabled to be much better than the Rift S (which isnt hard tbh)
Last I heard they are included
Knuckles is the best thing Iβve heard of so far
The steam page looked like there were different bundles for the whole set. And you could also get the controllers seperate
Unrelated, but I love that PFP Jamie
Awwe thanks ^^
They work with 1.0
2.0 devices can work with 1.0 lighthouses, but the opposite doesn't work.
I believe there were 3 bundles.
Headset only, headset and controllers, and the whole settup
I've got the money set aside to replace my rift and my graphics card
Now I just need to find the patience to not zero-day buy it ... I'd rather wait to make damn sure there aren't any first-run issues
Buying something the day it comes out is how u buy something defective
Ps4 had so much problems on release my frienf whiched he waitrf s bit
They pretty much have to be 2.0
Hey guys, I'm looking to do a scan of my room and import into Unity/VRChat. How much should I spend on a 3D scanner? I'm kinda new to this but I believe there's a poly limit in VRchat... is that right? I'm looking at something like Structure.IO sensor for iPAD.. .overkill?
There's a poly limit for avatars. World don't have a limit but world size and lag could get it rejected.
The lag of interacting inside the world?
That was actually going to be my next question, there's no cost to having a private world?
Nope
It's all free
That's awesome
You just need to be approved to upload, which requires playing the game for a while until you rank up to new user
I wonder how the cost of the servers gets subsedized?
I want the blanket so I can cuddle doki in it
I can't imagine they have unlimited compute/storage
Venture capital
I wonder if they'll release a paid version for those standalone VR headsets?
It is true, in part
I mean, that's basically a big reason I bought a headset. I've always wanted VR my whole life but VRC seemed fun.
I got my headset cuz vrc
Same. I got back into VR and purchased a current gen because of vrc. Otherwise i was going to give up on it
I tried vrc on desktop first then got oculus, then the wmr
I had so much fun last time zi wss on because finally im learning the controls
I get a headache due to the fact im prone to then and zi gotta take meds each time before I play, but its well worth it since I dont get motion sick
@still lark I hope so, a lotta of the time I just see them crowded around a mirror and pretending everyone else doesn't exist, or I'm being crashed by them when I try to say hi lol
I rode a carisol the otjer day on someones avatar it was awesome, I was likr ai love this ferris wheel! And they were like ITS A CARRISOL so my friend vlad went up and Said I DONT WANT ANY OF YOUR CARAMEL
Adeon, what's the cheapest headset that works w/ VRchat?
@cyan pond with hand controllers or just hmd
no hand controller, just want to be able to move around and talk
I wouldnβt know how to do it, but people have been able to use their phone as a hmd in vrchat
Youd need hand controllers to move
Using your phone is streaming from your pc to your phone
cheapest? google cardboard and xbox 360 controller 

Fpaul is a genius
wmr just go for wmr if you need a budget system
FPaul that would work without the xbox?
It would the controller would connect to the pc
Oh, lol I meant without a PC
You need a pc currently
It is a pc game π€·ββοΈ
I'd probably recommend a cheap WMR set. Can pick them up new for $200.
Your cheapest option will be the limited oculus quest for $400USD
Otherwie you will need a pc.
someone hurry up and figure out a way to get vrchat working on a raspberry pi
Just save up and buy a pc
You can play it without vr
@opaque hawk they dont own a pc or system
Are you using discord on a phone right now Aek? '-'
without a PC and for VRChat then aparently the Oculus Quest comming out soonish
I'll just email Elon Musk for a solution to this
...If it ends up working on it like announced 
Squishy, nah I have a pc... I'm just trying to come up with an idea of how to deploy to the masses
They had no specifics fpaul. For all we know, it could be just you in a room by yourself and thats vrchat
I mean... if your goal is to be creating a 3D scanned world for the game, then you're going to need a PC no matter what.
Also Fpaul, what are your thoughts on being sneezed on if I may ask?
Yes, that's part of the goal the problem is how to give headsets or PC's to all the people I want to join my world
Be rich
the cost will be astronomical
Huh?
The cheapest upcoming option without a PC will be the oculus Quest. Self contained vr system
My thoughts about it?
Im getting annoyed by your sneezing on stuff around here 
Why would you need to give everyone PCs? I'm missing something here.
Keep that kink to what ever, not here. :)
You trying to set up some kind of exhibit?
Squishy, exactly
Where is this going to be hosted, physically speaking?
On the VRchat server
No no, the exhibit, in real space.
Just get whoever elon musk is to give everyone alive a free pc with an rtx titan in it
I was planning on 3D Scanning into into Unity
"whoever elon musk is" Uh...
LOL
π
O.o
He's the guy that keeps the SEC awake at night
to the party uh?



