vrchat-general-2

[ruby needle]

7-10 what

[hardy seal]

im sorry 2-4 meters

[ruby needle]

hmm HDMI extension with 3 / 4 meter shouldnt be an issue

[zinc solar]

Yo

[ruby needle]

with USB 3.0 however, you'll propabably need a active component

cus the cord on the HMD allready has quite some lenght to it

[hardy seal]

i wish my house wasnt so awkward

[covert linden]

50feet

[ruby needle]

there is (idealy) 2 feet

and those are the ones you stand on

[covert linden]

Feet is a measurement thingy

[hardy seal]

a foot is about 1/3 of a meter

[stiff tree]

get an active repeater to extend usb 3.0

[torn nebula]

A hub ought to work too

[hardy seal]

and what about display port to hdmi are those ok no performance issues with those

[ruby needle]

dont

at least nto for the headset

use native HDMI

or DVI -> HDMI adapter

DP to HDMI mostly has issues with VR Headsets

works fine with monitors tho

[hardy seal]

alright ill have to switch one of my monitors to dp

[ruby needle]

ye do that

and then get like a 3m HDMI extension and a 3m usb 3.0 cable with a active repeater.

check out reapeaters descriptions

and watch out for people commenting on VR usages

you can often find them in the reviews

there is proapbly also some recommendations somewhere

maybe give it a quick google

[hardy seal]

well since it sounds like it wond work with my redily available supplies imma just move my desk

[covert linden]

I wish my damn oculus worked

Id pet so many lolis today

[vocal shard]

[covert linden]

Petting is legal

[hardy seal]

my headset is still in wisconsin

[covert linden]

Mines on my desk

I learned that my laptop wont work with vr despite the vrready claims

[hardy seal]

its been there for 5 days now was supposed to arrive 3 days ago

[covert linden]

That sucis

[hardy seal]

polar vortex sucks man

[vocal shard]

Petting lolis is a gateway drug, to doing much more

[covert linden]

Thats ok

[vocal shard]

[hardy seal]

[covert linden]

Shhh

[queen mango]

One month

[tardy arrow]

[opaque comet]

[vocal shard]

hi

[opaque comet]

Yo i cant hear anybody or anything in vr chat worlds how can i fix this

[icy tangle]

New murder update going out so the world will be unavailable for a short while

[torn nebula]

ooh, what's changing?

[queen mango]

Jar's Murder map is getting a new update

[torn nebula]

well, that's not very specific 😃

[vocal shard]

Whats it all take to get banned for crashing avatars? @ruby needle

[spring bronze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/506997698054848512.gif?v=1

[covert linden]

WOAH GUYS I JUST GOT KNOWN USWR

[torn nebula]

congrats 😃 I got it last week too, but I usually just keep it on displaying user. No real point in flaunting it, and a lot of people apparently block higher ranks more than middling ranks too

[stiff tree]

good job Ash

I think I should hit it soon

but my plan is to stay hidden as user

[covert linden]

I dont wanna hide it I just like it

[stiff tree]

I think it's cool to have it but there's also something appealing about hiding your true rank

[vocal shard]

congrats ash

[queen mango]

Noice.. Congrats on the new rank, Ash

[languid compass]

is there a way I can change my mic input ingame anymore?

any plugin or whatever

[vocal shard]

maybe something external that will still register as the default device in windows, but until unity fixes their bug not allowing mic switching, we have to live with it

[frail gate]

Is there a way to report people in this game?

i kind of just had a horrible experience where i tried saying hi in a world and instantly started being called 'trap' 'tranny' and having rude stuff hurled at me,, and it's like really discouraged me from enjoying my time on vr chat and i just feel so shy and feel like i can't even talk because people will harass me for being trans

and it hurts so much because i WANT to play this game so much and i WANT to make friends but this seems to happen every time i try

[covert chasm]

@frail gate #moderation-reports is the place to go. You can also report users in-app with the Report button on their Social page.

For specific events like this that require more details, emailing a report is probably better.

[frail gate]

Thank you,, i think it's too late for me to do anything now as i already left the world but,,, i just don't want things like this happening to me again

i just can't deal with it, it's so difficult and it just constantly ruins my experience on the game

[covert chasm]

I'd strongly suggest blocking people that harass you like that. If it repeats or if they continue to harass you somehow, I'd suggest using something like Shadowplay or OBS to record incidents (you can set these so you can have it always running and only grab the last N minutes). That helps out a ton with moderation reports.

[frail gate]

Thank you, this advice means a lot,,,

[queen mango]

Or if you are streaming, you can get a video clip of where the incident is happening.

Just make sure to include a timeline as well so that they know when it happened

[frail gate]

mhm,,

I just wish i didn't have to do things like this

I wish people could just be more accepting, and it hurts so bad cause i love this game and want to set myself into the community

[queen mango]

Yea.. I really wish the stigma regarding this kind of stuff would end.

It's not healthy for anyone

[subtle salmon]

There is often an unfortunate signal to noise ratio in public worlxs and its good to fly fast and free with mutes when it becomes clear someone is just on to be harassing and ugly to others

[queen mango]

Umm.. could you clarify what was going on there?

[frail gate]

Basically, i was in a world. said hi and this group started laughing, then they began 'calling me out' for 'pretending to be female' and calling me a trap

and it was just,, a super uncomfy time for me

[safe prism]

that's just sorta the reality of vrchat even for cisgirls ._.

[subtle salmon]

I was in a pug this morning with people like that. Its big with the jerk kids these days.

[safe prism]

gotta work yourself into communities that don't have people like that

public is a tough place uwu

[frail gate]

that's the thing

[queen mango]

Damn.. that same thing happened to me back when I was getting used to VRChat. Happens a lot when male players choose female anime characters. These uncultured people tend to make fun of them

[frail gate]

i try and get myself into private communities, but there's always one person that's transphobic or mean spirited

yea but it was especially uncomfy for me because of my gender dysphoria

i've lived as a trans woman for over 5 years now, and i've always wished i could just be accepted as a woman, but there's always one person who is just horrible about it.

[subtle salmon]

Mute em. If they aint contributing to your experience and wont treat you like a person even after youve asked nicely wish them intto the corn field with a block.

[stone current]

so w0t

i a doggo but som ppl say not

[queen mango]

People tend to be uncomfy with those kinds of stuff, but I don't think "taking it to violent extremes" is a good thing.

[stone current]

they problem

[safe prism]

letting the one person get to you that much is.. really something you gotta prevent. because everyone's got their own shit and someone's gonna be there to kick them down

regardless of what

[vocal shard]

Lifes to short for bullshit best to ignore peeps

[frail gate]

i wish it was easy to prevent it from getting to my head

[stone current]

it is if u practic

[frail gate]

but it always gets to me and messed with me and makes me feel awful

[stone current]

b0rk

well like u said

[queen mango]

But yea, like Tupper said.. Report them both in-game and through E-mail.

[stone current]

'theres always that 1 person' out of like the thousands of others

[safe prism]

vrchat is a great deep dive into training it out

[queen mango]

And like I said, try to include video evidence to the mix

[safe prism]

find the people that make you happy and lean on them

shit girl, wanna watch some anime rn? i'll give some perfectly perfect vrchat time.

[stone current]

https://tenor.com/view/corgi-massage-audio-relax-dog-gif-3571822

beter than anime ^

[vocal shard]

I've been standing up building my map now without sitting down once day in day out for over 3 months.. and im starting to feel.. pain lol

[stone current]

clicc 2 put the mp4 version cuz the gif version sped up

[rough pulsar]

I really hate the whole 'trap' thing, specifically because of cases like this where it ruins someone's experience.

[safe prism]

^

[frail gate]

I just want to enjoy vr chat, i want to enjoy it so bad

but there are so many toxic people in the community and it's so,,, HARD to enjoy it

[safe prism]

then yo, come watch a movie or anime with me or something.

and the people i hang out with rarely ever give me that bad experience, i 1000% they wouldn't to you either

[stone current]

pley wit moi

[safe prism]

(cause most are same box but)

[frail gate]

i'd love to,, thank u,,,, idk how to uh add you though

[stone current]

https://vrchat.net/home

[safe prism]

social tab, search okano and add me~
or on the website, search the same

[stone current]

henlo gallileo

[frail gate]

i think i added,, the right person

[safe prism]

i'll be on in a little bit

[vocal shard]

why do some of my avatars have a grayed out fav button

[stone current]

ad me also

[vocal shard]

I can only get on vrchat when testing.. it was random that i decided to join Gallium last week.. glad i did though because that world was the most random thing i've ever seen lol

[queen mango]

Ooh.. what world was it?

[vocal shard]

Umm.. let me quote his name.. its up in public.. but i cant recall the name :\z

@copper shard cant remember the name of the most random world ever created lol

[rough pulsar]

The Bumper Girdle Surplus Warehouse

[vocal shard]

There we go.. took you long enough.. jesus 😛

[subtle salmon]

Sounds like fun. 😃

[vocal shard]

It's inflatable fun 😄

[rough pulsar]

I don't think it's public yet

[vocal shard]

Well will have to have a word with marbe so we can make it public asap..

it belongs on vrchat due to its randomness

[spice patrol]

Anyone know a world made by Hannah Quinn tryed looking up person but didn't show a world even tho it was public.

[queen mango]

Everything's made from the drawing board? It sounds like a good candidate for Drekwiz's contest

[vocal shard]

.. snowing heavy i wanna build a snowman

[queen mango]

No luck here.

But I would love to see the world once it goes public.
If my laptop can handle it, that is

[zinc solar]

Unity is broken again

[vocal shard]

Unity is never broken..

[zinc solar]

I keep getting an uh-oh error when trying to upload an avatar

[vocal shard]

only limited by the understanding of its users..

[zinc solar]

Welp, I uploaded an avatar, and now I cannot upload another one

[vocal shard]

That's not unity.. if its an issue its either user or vrcsdk..

[subtle salmon]

Does it crash after you enter the model name/etc?

[zinc solar]

No, it's the "Preparing to upload" Unity freezes, and I'm unable to upload

[subtle salmon]

mmmmm I dunno. I get something similar to that, except it's a formal crash to bug report screen, and if persistant it tends to be because something has filled up my hard drive cache and it can no longer do the file voodoo it wants to do.

[vocal shard]

The only time that is present is when the server isn't responding to ping

any errors at all in console?

[zinc solar]

Fixed it

[subtle salmon]

Yatta! 💜

[covert linden]

my model works so well im so proud, the physics are somehow identical to the anime

[vocal shard]

Cute :3

[zinc solar]

Wait, nvm. Still broken

The problem is whenever I try to upload the avatar, the VRSDK logs me out and is unable to attach a blueprint

[subtle salmon]

oof

Most current version of sdk check?

[zinc solar]

Currently using VRCSDK-2018.12.19.17.03_Public

A new one came out?

[subtle salmon]

that seems to be current, so yeah, probably not that. :[

[zinc solar]

I'll just remove it and reload the assets

[subtle salmon]

try uploading an unblueprinted version of the model you uploaded before to narrow down if it's the model or vrc server shenanigans maybe?

[zinc solar]

The model is just a box and a plane

[subtle salmon]

🤔

[zinc solar]

You know an image model

[subtle salmon]

Yesszz, that's where it gets outside the realm of my experience. I mean maybe it's complaining theres no proper avatar bones or someting (?) But it should tell you so in that initial model selection window if there are fatal problems.

[vocal shard]

New exploit? https://gyazo.com/793ed2e9029e1ad66829bb6cef2ad115

literally my ram is getting screwed

Or can you drop portals when everyones blocked..

but how is all the portals still there? ehh

[umbral reef]

Just get ya outputlog
Throw the time when it happened (local time) and who you expected it to do to [e-mail]

!Outputlog

[floral flax]

You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat named output_log.txt

[tacit plank]

I think that's an old exploit

[languid beacon]

Is eye tracking disabled for anyone else?

[subtle salmon]

scuttlebutt in another section suggests the newest patch broke blinking/eye tracking for the moment

but is already fixed again in the next beta

[quaint dawn]

Anyone know whats the world with that giant avatar that has a seat on her hand?

[torn nebula]

security fixes

no urgency to update

[vocal shard]

I do not know where to put this so I will put it here, sorry if this is the wrong channel to say this but
New User: Black Fetus and User: Flying Otter have crash/log clients, I was force logged out of vrchat after Flying Otter came over to me assuming I was afk, and told his friend that he will do a magic trick.
Again sorry if this is not the place put this kind of message.

You can look in #moderation-reports to see how they would like you to report someone

ah thanks

[lapis nebula]

Morning everyone

[queen mango]

G'morning ‾w‾

[hollow umbra]

Why are vive straps so expensive. They almost cost as much as the sensor themselves

70 dollars

[rough pulsar]

Make your own, loads cheaper and much more comfortable in my opinion.
Made mine one weekend back in 2017 and still using them, still very comfortable. Total: £10
I'm more than happy to share the design & general instructions if you're interested.

[hollow umbra]

@rough pulsar is it 3d printing?

I heard you can upload your stl files to a someone and they can print it out

Nvm I got it now

Camera hooks plus Velcro scraps are the way to go I guess

[turbid hemlock]

@terse fable you should unblock me!

[robust prairie]

If they have you blocked, they're not gonna see your message

[turbid hemlock]

reeeee

[lean coyote]

Rip eye tracking after that update

[keen latch]

So I'm trying to login to the mobile app and it keeps saying "User Not Found", It did the same thing for the desktop version when I typed it in manually

[umbral oracle]

the .... what?

you mean you login the website https://www.vrchat.net/home
on mobile?

[tiny ginkgo]

MVRC

[umbral oracle]

where did you download it from? do you have the latest

[livid peak]

Hey where In vrchat can I find a Holo the wolf goddess avatar

[rough pulsar]

@hollow umbra Nah, sewing. Uses straps around the vive tracker's nub things sewn onto footstraps/velcro-elastic belt.

[analog schooner]

Are there any safe worlds with pens?

[rigid crescent]

safe?

[analog schooner]

As in, low chance of someone crashing your game?

[rigid crescent]

well, with animations off, all of them

[umbral reef]

And shaders off

Or just avatars blocked

And then they can still log you out

[rigid crescent]

why do you need shaders and animatinos off

[umbral reef]

But TBH
Just avoid the most common worlds and you will be fine
The less casual the better kinda

[analog schooner]

Makes sense

Or avoid nearly full presentation rooms

[umbral reef]

Because it can crash by default @rigid crescent

[rigid crescent]

that's not really that common tbh

[umbral reef]

True

But it's still there

[rigid crescent]

well like yo usaid, so are logouts lol

But that fits pretty well into "low chance"

[umbral reef]

Logouts are more common then crashing now

[analog schooner]

For me though in VR atleast, it was extremely common to go on a full presentation room world and have my Oculus crash.

Like a minute within joining.

[rigid crescent]

that mgiht just be you crashing

But just keep animations off, you'll be fine for the most part

[queen mango]

Oof.. I don't think a lot of people in Presentation Room pubs aren't that nice to begin with.

[analog schooner]

I think you're right Elire

Should I even trust people with the trusted rank with animations?

[umbral reef]

Are you above the minimum vr specs?

[analog schooner]

I checked and I am

[rigid crescent]

I wouldn't trust anyone with animations lol

just ignore the ranks and pretend they're "Friends" and "n ot friends"

[umbral reef]

Also no- No rank is safe from trolls really

[analog schooner]

Oh...

[tacit plank]

Purple people are unlikely to crash you since they don't want to get banned

But they can be assholes too, and experienced users are just way better at being assholes because they know what they shouldn't do

[queen mango]

[rough pulsar]

It's almost as if you can't tell what people are like based on some arbitary ranking structure instead of observing and understanding social dynamics. 🤔

[tacit plank]

If the system could point out who was a decent human being, that would be great, but it can't

And the answer is like 80% at best. That's being optimistic too

[rigid crescent]

lol unlikely to crash you

bigmeme

[tacit plank]

They risk their purple accounts every time they crash someone

But grey-named users hiding behind 7 proxies don't have much of a reason to fear bans

[limpid kestrel]

Hi

[tacit plank]

Sup

[stoic halo]

@tacit plank i can tell you for a fact more Trusted users are crashers than grey users.

using logouts and junk.

the problem with logouts is you cant figure out who did it unless it was obvious

so trusted users use logouts mostly.

[tacit plank]

I don't hang out with assholes very often, so my sample size is very small (Was shot by a particle gun once about two months ago)

Sounds like bad logging

[queen mango]

And I don't think a Visitor can get lucky with finding malicious avatars unless someone else is risking themselves to offer themselves.

[stoic halo]

the only crashers ive ever met or been hit by was Trusted

and most used Logouts

and i know this because its super obvious when they did it.

[tacit plank]

It takes maybe 5 at most to ban someone, but it likely takes 500+ hours to get trusted

[stoic halo]

now try that with some thing that you cant really detect unless they make it obvious

[tacit plank]

By simple math, the staff should be able to keep up, and users would be too afraid of the consequences to do such things

[stoic halo]

a friend of mine who used a logout was never banned for it, he got banned for ripping models.

[tacit plank]

It's sad that they're not logging crashes properly

[stoic halo]

not every system works flawlessly is the problem

and logging logouts would be super hard.

[tacit plank]

On a related note, don't make friends with crashers

Logging errors is a simple thing

[timber dirge]

What's up bro

[stoic halo]

if its so simple then how come logouts arent being punished easily or fixed tbh

[tacit plank]

Priorities or something, I guess

[stoic halo]

idk about you but a logout exploit should be high priority

especially when they have it where its automated now

[tacit plank]

It's easier to say than do these things, but I'm sure I could have dealth with it semi effectively myself

[stoic halo]

and automatically logs people out who is on a list

if they are in the same world

[tacit plank]

I thought it wasn't possible to logout just a single user?

[stoic halo]

it is lol.

ive seen it happen tons of times and to myself.

[stark sphinx]

It’s really not a simple issue to fix, this game is made on unity, an open source engine the only way to fix most of the issues they have would to make their own engine.

[stoic halo]

hackers have gotten so advanced they can literally read your game files

[tacit plank]

I reported avatar and name stealing back in early 2018 btw. I don't want to say anything negative about the devs, but it's obvious that something is not going too well in the security area

[stoic halo]

to see if you're a Crasher too.

[tacit plank]

I kind of doubt it, but if so, then staff should impliment that code to look for crashers to begin with

It would get patched sooner or later, but if you ban say 10% of these people, then the rest will be much more careful about it, meaning less crashes overall

You don't have to patch it, you just need to make it not worth it to crash anyone one wants to

[stark sphinx]

The main issue is it’s not possible, to detect something that was made from scratch, to exploit something in an open source engine unless they have a copy of that users specific exploit.

[tacit plank]

If a modded client can read others files, then copying that feature shouldn't be too hard

You might need to decompile it or something, but it's not super difficult

[stark sphinx]

lol copying someone’s independent code

[tacit plank]

Reverse engineering VRChat was how they made the exploit in the first place

[stark sphinx]

Honestly it’s not something that can be fixed anytime soon, and the devs are aware. It’s just either not a priority or it’s not possible to fix

[tacit plank]

And I'm sure that a lot of experienced users who know how these things work have been reporting it to the staff. They should have some information to go by

[stark sphinx]

Anyways anyone know any fun games to play in vrchat other the werewolf and Mario cart racing?

[tacit plank]

Like I said ealier, I reported name and avatar duplication almost a year ago. Supplied log and all. It made no difference

[stark sphinx]

Or any good horror maps?

[tacit plank]

Murder is fun (the game world)

[queen mango]

There is Murder, but Jar said earlier that it'll be down for a while for a map update

What about Steel N' Gold?

Or Never Have I Ever?

[tacit plank]

How come? It does break now and then, but there's no major issues around it

[stark sphinx]

I wanna take my boo somewhere scary, I’ve played murder and steel n gold

[tacit plank]

I think CTF is a better shooter personally

[queen mango]

Map update
Probably prepping up for the new upcoming update.

[tacit plank]

I'm totally out of the loop, anything cool coming?

[raven mulch]

what about the scary maze? i forgot the name of it

[queen mango]

Not sure. I've heard from Phaxe that it'll be coming out this week or so, and that's all I heard

[stark sphinx]

Yeah did 1 - 4 took forever and honestly after 2 hours just becomes meh

[tacit plank]

I made a maze. It's kind of scary in that you can choose the right path every time, and still not finish it in hours. It's huge

And I meant the VRChat update. It will fix eyetracking but that's all I heard

[humble cairn]

anyone got a fix for the favourite tab issue>?

i can only see the first avatar I favourited and its a fuckin roblox character lol

[stark sphinx]

Unfavorite and reload your game and hope it’s fixed

[tacit plank]

After loading the first charcter, the avatar loading function commits suicide in fear of more roblox characters

[humble cairn]

well damn

ill try unfavouriting it but I have 5 more invisible favourited ones so

it might die again idk

[tacit plank]

Nah idk. Various favorite features have had problems for months. It's slowly getting better though

[median basalt]

Lmao, when you fix a "security hole" in your eye tracking package by literally removing eye tracking

Hope it's fixed in the beta and I hope the beta hits release really soon

[stone current]

wow eye tracking is security breach

[median basalt]

It literally was

They left a method in the package that allows exporting garbage data to any file

People were overwriting people's VRChat installations with it

Glad to see they can respond this quickly to eye tracking but not to uhh, disconnect exploits

[stone current]

haha

thats funny

a system that makes eyes look around allows u 2 write data to files

wtf is this

[tacit plank]

Fuck, stop messing with things.
After the update, it only seems to recognize my headset

I might have been too fast to blame VRChat. SteamVR crashed and took my computer with it

[median basalt]

@stone current it's because there are convoluted settings that can be exported and imported

Of course that should never be usable outside of the editor but here we are

[ruby needle]

I dont understand your Point Rokk. (messages an hour ago)
If the disconnection issues could easily be fixxed they would be. Generally you can't compare the two issues at all tho.
You can't just disable the Photon Networking as a hotfix for the disconnection issues, like disabling the Eye Tracking component.
And wirting to local files is by far a way worse and serious exploit.

[lapis stag]

The big question. Htc hive or oculus rift?

[ruby needle]

personal preference

For me personally Rift

[neon flume]

Same, though if you want full body tracking the vive is the best option.

[lapis stag]

Yeah, if I’m gona get vr I’m gona go full body tracking.

[ruby needle]

be warned that its only really vrchat that takes advantage of that.

unless you do animation capture or something

[lapis stag]

Oh yeah I know, that’s the main purpose of me getting one, but I will play some other vr games as well.

[neon flume]

If you haven't gotten a chance to try the various headsets out yet, try visiting a VR arcade. Many cities have them now and they often have Vives and a small library of steam games you can try.

[near saffron]

Anyone got links to anything that can capture vive tracker moment for animations?

[neon flume]

Microsoft* stores frequently demo their WMR headsets in or just outside the store in malls. Might be worth checking that out too.

[lapis stag]

Oh, yeah I’ll see if I can find one near me...

[floral aspen]

VR arcades aren't exactly common

Unless you live in a big city good luck finding one

[lapis stag]

I live near Chicago.

[floral aspen]

Oh well then it shouldn't be an issue for you

[lapis stag]

Alright. Nice... now to actually find one

[rough pulsar]

Yeah, might have to head into the city to find something but I'm sure you will.
I live in a small town in the UK and I was able to find a place that did vive demos only 20 minutes or so away from me.

[floral aspen]

Sure, finding a place that demos a headset that's for sale is no big deal, but a full blown VR Arcade is a whole other thing

[rotund bobcat]

damn, that would be cool

[vocal shard]

Hello everyone. If you would like a wedding performed at a location of your choice, please let me know. I am a new ordained Reverend and would like some practice before I start real ones. Please DM me for information on times available.

[rotund bobcat]

if you're looking for demos i'd reccomend best buy

i've seen an oculous demo there once

[hardy seal]

My local best buy has the rift but they've never had a demo

[sharp spruce]

They're at specific times, google best buy oculus demo

[hardy seal]

But then again that Best buy is in a pretty small city

Like 60,000 people

[sharp spruce]

The one near me is under 30k population and they have demos still, look it up

[hardy seal]

Yay my headset delivery date got pushed to the 5th thanks FedEx it's already 3 days late

[sharp spruce]

Be happy you aren't stuck with the amazon delivery service, those guys took over two weeks to get me a package before. :|

[covert linden]

Amazon is usually super good

[sharp spruce]

They bought out this terrible delivery company in a few states, and I'm stuck with them

[hardy seal]

I only get ups fedex and the displeasure of the us postal service

The postal service where I am is bar none the worst

Constantly get my neighbors mail I waited a month for a package and when it finally showed up it was in the back seat of the mail carriers car and her kids had been stepping on it and kicking it the whole time

[covert linden]

That doesnt happen here bur they left my 1k$ cintiq outside on the porch

Mid winter

[safe prism]

USPS rarely fucks up for me, but i have had UPS deliver two identical packages with $700+ monitors in them one to my house, one to my neighbor's for some reason.

[tidal aspen]

ups left my neighbor's TV outside on the porch once

they also left my vive outside

[safe prism]

i mean

[tidal aspen]

but for my ram that could fit in my mailbox NOPE GOTTA SIGN IT BUDDY

[safe prism]

they always leave everything outside wym

xd

[hardy seal]

If you don't answer the door and they don't have extra instructions it's perfectly reasonable for them to leave it on your doorstep

What ups needs and FedEx actually has is a way to input instructions

I myself am not worried about packages left on my steps because I live a mile and a half from my nearest neighbor and that's my dad

[covert linden]

Im in a packed city

[red mantle]

anyone in here has an oculus rift?
I have a question

[meager solstice]

? What’s up PC

Maybe I can help

[red mantle]

how do I turn on the controllers? xD

[covert linden]

Theyre automatically on

Put batteries in them

[meager solstice]

No I think he means after they turn off (eventually they turn off to save battery power).

[red mantle]

how do I put batteries?
I can't find a way to "open" it

[covert linden]

I dont have mine in hand but theres a little magnet hatch

[stone current]

yea there is

[covert linden]

Its the entire front

[stone current]

just slide the thing on side off

[covert linden]

Side idk mines not in my hand rb

[stone current]

on the opposite side of the grip button

[covert linden]

Its super cool it just magnets on

[stone current]

it has the ⏏ symbol

also u could just consult utube

[covert linden]

I didnt find the symbol I had to get doki to teach me xD

[red mantle]

oh, I just got it
that's not intuitive xD
it doesn't have a symbol

[meager solstice]

Secret

[stone current]

https://youtu.be/qe-OYLBnre0

[covert linden]

Its very hidden but tis cool

[stone current]

it does have a symbol its engraved

look at the very top of it

https://i.gyazo.com/8df40a338da505684ffdbe6179624c9f.png

right there

[red mantle]

now I see the symbol, is grey on grey tho...

[stone current]

well yea its engraved into the controller

or rather the cover

[languid beacon]

@twilit estuary 100% Rift, for the fingers emotes. Or wait until knuckle controllers come with vive. One or the other. Don’t get a regular vive.

[vocal shard]

Does anyone play vrc with a pimax?

[languid beacon]

I love that discord randomly auto-corrects a perfectly typed name to someone else’s name. Because that’s, always a neat surprise.

[vocal shard]

I’m planning on getting the pimax

[covert linden]

Iisnt pimax a joke

[languid beacon]

I know absolutely no one with a pimax. I mostly just hear about Vive and Rift being the good ones.

[covert linden]

I thjnk ive heard the pimax is as good as a joke

I forget who but it waseither sai or oclac maybe?

[vocal shard]

@covert linden no, it is actually a lot better than htc and oculus atm

[covert linden]

Thats even funnier

Pimax definately isnt close

[vocal shard]

Uhhhh wdym

[stone current]

pimax is decent but theres nothing really on it or on people using it

[covert linden]

Its ratings on amazon are shit

[stone current]

at least on popular games

[vocal shard]

So u are meming

[languid beacon]

You seem like you know your stuff and already made up your mind then. Go for it bro. My opinion is that’s a mistake but you don’t wanna hear that and I don’t wanna stop you!

[covert linden]

No im dead serious

[vocal shard]

U do realize those headsets sold on Amazon are from third party right?

[red mantle]

does anyone know some recommendations for the error "VRInitError_Init_hmdNotFound"?

[vocal shard]

Cuz amazon isn’t a certified seller of pimax

@stone current I mean you can play any games on it lol

[covert linden]

I just did fast research. One version of pimax has no controllers and the other needs a beast system to run

[languid beacon]

Just let him get a Pimax. He’s either memeing and won’t really get one, or has been legitimately warned.

[covert linden]

I mean ye he can get ut just dont come complaining to us when its not whatcha wanted

[vocal shard]

Hmmm, just wondering if anybody uses it with vrc

[covert linden]

Ive never met anyone with it

[languid beacon]

No one I know

It’s bad

[vocal shard]

Like if the 200 fov is much better than 110

[languid beacon]

If you really want one that badly just go for it and ignore all of our warnings all right I’ve said pretty much anything I need to say about it I am guilt free

[covert linden]

You chose fov over functionality?

[vocal shard]

Wait, what are your warnings?

[languid beacon]

It sucks.

But what you want tho

[covert linden]

The odessy has the best screens if youre aiming for that but i wouldnt reccomend that. Ocuous and Vive are popular for a reason

[vocal shard]

What part of it doesn’t function?@covert linden

[covert linden]

Cons:

No room-scale and no controllers (and even the solution with NOLO is not optimal)

Framerate of only 60Hz (90Hz only if working in asynchronous mode)

Sometimes there are issues with Chinese and English languages in programs

The price of Pimax + NOLO is not that low

[vocal shard]

I do have a vive

[covert linden]

I got that from some site

[vocal shard]

I’ll do more research cuz every tech youtuber and even ones who talked shit about it thinks it is better than oculus and vive

[covert linden]

Theyre probably paid to say that bc if it was a competitor then itd be popular enough to be considered that.

[vocal shard]

That is why I’m considering it so much

[covert linden]

Because all I hear of o n a regular basis are wmr, oculus, and ofc vive

[stone current]

wow thas cool fukase and dex have amazing english voicebanks

[languid beacon]

If you have a Vive you already have a superior headset there is no reason to downgrade to a pimax. But clearly you have disposable income to be buying a second headset anyway, so if you really want to buy it and see what it’s like go ahead but I’m pretty sure you’re just going to go back to using your Vive

[covert linden]

^

[vocal shard]

Do you have any evidence besides “it sucks”

[covert linden]

Ive given all the evidence you should need

How can a device that cant do roomscale work better than vive

[languid beacon]

You really really want a pimax and I really honestly, 100% don’t wanna stop you. please go buy one. I highly recommend it.

[covert linden]

^ make ur dreams come true

[vocal shard]

Uhhh ok

[stoic halo]

primax is fuckin expensive

honestly doesnt even look comfortable

[vocal shard]

I’m gonna use my vive audio strap with it

[stoic halo]

idk if i should get a Vive or a Rift

[covert linden]

Are you sure you can do that?

[stoic halo]

im iffy on FBT

[covert linden]

Leah my personal opinion vote is for rift

But thatss more personalprefrence

[stoic halo]

i have a WMR and i just want better tracking tbh

am i able to have a smallish playspace with it?

[covert linden]

Well my friend went from wmr to oculus and loves the tracking, you can get a third trscker if you want even more

Uh idk im sure someone here does

[stoic halo]

like i can barely have my arms fully extended, only if im in the center

and facing a certain direction.

[languid beacon]

Leah, get a rift or wait for knuckle controllers to be bundled with vive. The vive controllers are terrible in my opinion. Oculus has the best vr controllers period right now and VRChat’s hand emote system was designed around them. Vive just picks them from a trackpad wheel it just doesn’t feel the same

[stoic halo]

i like the WMR controllers for the joysticks

[covert linden]

Can oculus work with a tiny playspace tho?

And all controllers have the joysticks dont they?

[stoic halo]

can either work with a tiny play space.

[languid beacon]

Oculus is specifically targeting small play spaces. It works with large play spaces, but then you need a third sensor.

[covert linden]

I was told youre suppose to have at leasy 5 foot squared for any vrs but idk Im probably wrong, thats just how much I have

[stoic halo]

i mean if i can play in WMR

would it be fine in Vive or rift.

[covert linden]

I know someone who plays in a closet though

[stoic halo]

like in standing

i punch walls pretty ocassionaly if i lose where im at.

maybe 3 sensors would be beneficial

[languid beacon]

You can do very small play spaces with oculus and it works fine I’m talking like sensors only 3 feet apart for your front two corners, works fine

[stoic halo]

jeez.

i have more room than that.

[rough pulsar]

All the main VR systems can handle small spaces fine.
The Vive is the best at the largest spaces, then, weirdly, WMR then Rift.

[stoic halo]

but still not alot for VR.

[covert linden]

More than 3ft should be good

Worst case scenario u can put them on the walls in the corners

[languid beacon]

With oculus, the farther apart you can put your front corner sensors, the more you can angle them and cover the dead zone in back of you

[covert linden]

Ive got like 5"5 squared of space.. I measured withbmy own height hehe

[stoic halo]

one way is like

[languid beacon]

That’s perfect for oculus

[stoic halo]

i think ive got like a 7x4

[covert linden]

You cant be tooo close to the sensors i think

[stoic halo]

mostly because of my god damn bed.

it takes up so much space

[covert linden]

I have to havr a tracker in the closet

[languid beacon]

The sensors stop working when you are within about 6 inches of them

[covert linden]

Oh ok closer than I thought

Thts very up and personal

[languid beacon]

And really you should stay arm’s-length away so you accidentally don’t knock them over

[covert linden]

I wanna get a third sensor for room scale so I can twirl around

[stoic halo]

i planned to mount mine

so i have more room to not smack them

[covert linden]

Mounting works best, im putting mine on my ceiling on eaxh end

I WISH MY OCULUS WOULD WORK AAAAA

[languid beacon]

Vive tracking is easier to set up because the sensors don’t need to connect to your computer, oculus sensors do you need to wire to your computer which can make placement annoying, but they are much more forgiving and how you can actually place the sensors around your room, vibe is very strict and wants them at at opposite sides of room

[stoic halo]

wait so

[languid beacon]

Oculus it is better to have them both on front corners, vive wants opposite corners

[stoic halo]

how do the sensors connect then

[covert linden]

You can grt extendors

Usb

[languid beacon]

Oculus sensors connect by USB

[stoic halo]

the vive.

[languid beacon]

Vive sensors don’t connect they only need power

[covert linden]

Telekenisis

[stoic halo]

said you dont need to connect to pc, thats what im confused about

so only the vive needs to connect

[languid beacon]

Vive and oculus tracking are actually reversed from each other. On oculus, the headset and controller emit light and the sensors look for the light. One Vive, the base stations emit light and the headset and controllers see the light

[stoic halo]

ok so say one of my base stations cant see the controller

will my tracking still be fine for a bit?

[covert linden]

Your hand goes to japan

[brittle jolt]

Oculus uses an Inside-Out System so the controllers act like an IR Flashlight, while the Sensors/Base Stations collect the Data/Light and they are directly(wire) connected to your PC.
Vive uses an Outside-In System so the Base Stations act like the IR Flashlight, while the Controller are connected via Bluetooth to USB Dongles which are connected with the PC.

[languid beacon]

For vive, they want sensors at opposite sides, So it’s far more likely that a device will not be seen by either sensor so it goes flying off into space

It might just be bad set up on my part, but that never happens for me on oculus, but then again I use three sensors for oculus, so I have very redundant coverage

(I have both)

[covert linden]

Yay for room scale

[stoic halo]

i really need to just get rid of my bed frame tbh

[covert linden]

Then where will you sleep D :

[stoic halo]

or a bigger room

because this bed alone still takes up ton of space

[covert linden]

I feel the same way.. also my closet is leaning right over my playspace

[stoic halo]

the amount of times i kick/punch my bed on accident.

or my desk

[covert linden]

I haveny gotten to uze my oculus yey

But I like the controllers...

[stoic halo]

i want to avoid oculus a bit

[covert linden]

Why

[stoic halo]

because of the manual hand gestures cause fuck that

[languid beacon]

After experiencing both types of tracking, I really feel like oculus has superior tracking when it comes to actual stability and not losing tracking; vive is unstable but has the benefit of supporting more devices like fullbody tracking. I prefer to use oculus right now because touch controllers are like touching heaven and vive controllers suck, but when knuckles comes out I will probably switch to 100% vive with full body

[brittle jolt]

Vive is especially susceptible to reflections (so mirrors, polished surfaces, etc.) because of the Laser-Based System.
Oculus on the other hand can only handle a limited amount of devices. Which is why full body tracking is currently not available for Oculus (while Vive can handle quite alot of Trackers)

[covert linden]

Manual? you just move your fingers.. isnt that better than sliding your thumb and guessing

[stoic halo]

its easier for me to use the touchpad tbh

[covert linden]

Less natural

[stoic halo]

wmr has the best controller setup for me tbh

Joystick and touchpad.

[languid beacon]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DZIaAHJRQzI

I guess it’s not for everyone, but this is why I absolutely love oculus

[covert linden]

Oculus have joystick and buttons

[stoic halo]

but no touchpad

[covert linden]

Honestly I wish I cpd let you hold mine its exTREMELY comfortable.

It make me wish I could connect it to my ps3 and play spyro

[languid beacon]

I was introduced to VR and VR chat via friends rift, and the hand pose matching is what nailed it for me and made me go get one the next day

[stoic halo]

also rift FBT

[languid beacon]

I have and use rift full body tracking myself via vive trackers but it is a more expensive setup than full vive fbt

[stoic halo]

do you need like the vive basestations too?

[languid beacon]

Yep that’s why it’s more expensive

Works great though and just like having the best of both worlds

[covert linden]

My friend the other day went to look out the window and was like yeah it is snowing
Then died laughing bc hr was in vr

Then yesterday hr went to check his watch

[stoic halo]

Vive has me a bit because of the base stations not connecting to pc

[brittle jolt]

You still need to connect a USB Dongle per Controller/Tracker.

[stoic halo]

wait

per? controller

[covert linden]

Dongleeee

[stoic halo]

like a Bluetooth?

[brittle jolt]

Well its definitely per Tracker.

[stoic halo]

cause i have 2 of those since WMR.

one as a backup.

[covert linden]

Like yknow those usb things wireless mouses use

I assume its alike to that

[ruby burrow]

Vive only needs dongles for FBT.

[stoic halo]

yes i know i have 2 of them.

[ruby burrow]

The normal controllers need none.

[stoic halo]

ok that is what i was about to think

cause if it was per controller that wouldve been wack.

[ruby burrow]

Vive definitely has the advantage on not needing a dozen USB connections. Basic setup only needs 1. FBT setup needs 4.

[brittle jolt]

Ohh yeah I think the Headset communicates with the Controllers and then sends that over the Cable, so you only need one USB port for the Headset+Controllers.

[ruby burrow]

But you can use a USB hub for the trackers, so that's 2 USB ports from the PC in total if using FBT.

[stoic halo]

FBT is only on mind if i somehow get more room

[brittle jolt]

Well it depends on the USB Hub. I heard that some USB Hubs transmit Data differently and address the Plugs differently so it screws up the Software

[stoic halo]

because id kick things left and right

[ruby burrow]

Trying to use all four USB on a single hub runs out of USB end points though, so 2 is the minimum.

[covert linden]

Just put a hub in the hub

[brittle jolt]

You cant just stack USB Hubs infinitely :P

[ruby burrow]

The thing to understand about USB ports, is that they have a finite number of "end points", a separate thing to bandwidth. It's very hard to know how much any given device uses, but VR stuff tends to need a lot.

Which creates a limit.

[covert linden]

Yes just keep stacking them

[stoic halo]

some one donate me a house with enough room for vr

ty.

[covert linden]

I wanna hug someone in vr while huggging them irl

[stone current]

don8 me a cooki

[stoic halo]

your reward will be vrchat pats

[ruby burrow]

Far as I have heard for Rift, you can fit up to 2 sensors on a single USB 3. Any more and it starts creating issues.
Both headsets themselves want their own dedicated port if possible.

For Vive trackers you can fit 3 on one port, but they seemingly won't remember their location correctly that way.

[covert linden]

There should be an oculus to ps3 portttttt

[ruby burrow]

As in, they will work, but after being turned off will be removed from the Steam VR window. Whilst if I plug mine in on their own ports, they remain in the window.

It's a little strange. I'm not entirely certain of this bit, but that seems to be the case.

Only difference it makes in practice, is that if using the hub, I need to reboot VR-Chat if I want to start using my FBT mid way through.
Whilst if they're plugged in separately, I can just turn them on and off as I please. Is kinda weird.

[oblique crescent]

is there a way to use a world link without having to be launched in vr mode?

[raven mulch]

https://imgur.com/a/kvITXag anyone know which world this avatar came from, if there's any? i favorited it a while ago and didn't think to check the author of it

[inner shard]

awesome i can speak now

hello, all

[tacit plank]

Welcome

[lethal plaza]

Hello! Quick question. Does anyone have Larens discord server info?

[floral aspen]

I have no idea who that is

[queen mango]

No idea. I've not heard of it

[lethal plaza]

Ah they make avatars~

[vast tulip]

?!

[median basalt]

Uhm

The newest patch reverted some earlier done fixes like the PostFX fix.

[vast tulip]

What post fx fix?

If you find an issue make a canny in the beta canny

It won't be looked at if you don't

[vocal shard]

is it just me or is the eye tracking broken in vrchat?

have seen that with a few avatars now

yup https://vrchat.canny.io/bug-reports/p/eye-tracking-broken-201844p6

[somber swan]

can someone tell me where they have the t-rex avatars with sunglasses and the indoraptor?

[vast tulip]

@vocal shard in live or open beta?

[vocal shard]

im on the normal version never used a open beta

[final nova]

Can i get help in the custom avatars, I got a problem importing the avatar from Unity!!! Pls help!!

[queen mango]

I think there are people in #avatars-2-general who can help you with that

[warped urchin]

Welp VRChats lag management system or their networking has now killed it entirely for my bf to play

Any time they get into a world and or a world with other people and you have to download their avatars as well it now completely kills their network so they lag but can hear everyone fine but nobody can hear them properly.

[umbral oracle]

@warped urchin I attempted to answer your question in #user-support-old . Are you on wifi? What isp and what country are they in

[warped urchin]

@umbral oracle they are wired and in the us

With at&t

[umbral oracle]

Aieee you shouldn't be getting jitter or packet loss with that sort of network but that's one of the only reasons I can think, unless AT&T is having peering / net neutrality issues... did it ever work ok?

If it was always like that, another reason could be an incompatibility with your microphone or audio driver causing an incorrect sampling rate. If you are using the mic from the vr headset this is highly unlikely to be incompatible unless you have some voice mixer software installed

[hardy seal]

yesterday i was laggy too and so were a bunch of people i talked with

[umbral oracle]

What isp, connection type (wifi, wired) and country

[hardy seal]

isp is NCC wired and usa

i just took it as the servers were havcing issues and played through

[umbral oracle]

Could be. If it persists might be good to email vrchat support as wired isps in USA should have very good connectivity

[vocal shard]

@brittle hawk u baboon

[trail bronze]

Can someone send me the download file

[covert linden]

Og what

Of

[trail bronze]

Vrchat

[covert linden]

Its on steam

[trail bronze]

Ah ok

[modern sand]

If we could avoid broad statement not backed up by any evidence, that'd be cool, also, if there's evidence -> [e-mail] @zinc solar

[zinc solar]

Hmmm?

I mean I have the video evidence, never knew it was a reportable offense

[stark swallow]

I guess people don’t want to be warned ok

[umbral sedge]

Hello.

[vocal shard]

understandable that you are just trying to warn people but mentioning it by name may draw more people to it

[stark swallow]

?

[vocal shard]

Hi waylon

[queen mango]

Welcome, Waylon

[sleek bone]

Avatar-stealing program is updated. Please report to the devs

[queen mango]

[sleek bone]

Just saw someone stealing avatars again

[umbral reef]

Fairly sure it was never gone just harder and less rewarding as stuff gets scuffed...

[stone current]

[muted lily]

Has anyone noticed that eye tracking isnt working

[stone current]

i doggo

[muted lily]

No me doggo

[queen mango]

[stone current]

[umbral reef]

@muted lily Yes- Its a reported bug and should be fixed in the #open-beta-info / #open-beta-discussion

[vocal shard]

Already mentioned it to them

[muted lily]

thanks

[queen mango]

I don't think Pepe avatars are allowed there

[stone current]

[queen mango]

Or emojis for that part

[muted lily]

FeelsFrogMan

[stone current]

||wa a hard PILL 2 swalow||

b0rk

he/she dogo but i also dogo

hm

[indigo fern]

[hollow umbra]

What are my options for leg tracking for the oculus

[vocal shard]

Kinect, psmove (ps3 specific), nolo, vive trackers with base stations

[hollow umbra]

Thanks my dude

Which is the best

Except vive

[vocal shard]

Nolo

[hollow umbra]

Is there a guide

[vocal shard]

My friend made a review on YouTube of nolo for vrchat. Djgelooficcial. If you're interested. In the video one of the legs looses tracking a couple seconds, that was just his bed in the way of the base station

He also has a full setup video

[hollow umbra]

Can I have the link?

[vocal shard]

https://youtu.be/ERyHRpDGHlc

[hollow umbra]

Weird, you have to jury rig the nolo to a pair of shoes

[indigo fern]

i mean, a buddy just rubber bands his vive trackers to his feet

[vocal shard]

You can do it however

[median heath]

Man, im really bummed out. I already got two models that are ready to be uploaded to Vrchat, but i can't because im still a visitor.

[vocal shard]

just let vrchat run while you sleep

[median heath]

i've heard that doesn't work.

[vocal shard]

oof

[torn nebula]

just go out and meet some people; it really doesn't take that long if you're actually spending any real time in vrc

if you're only in for 15minutes a day then maybe it'll take a while of course

[rigid crescent]

just play the game 👌 took an alt all of a few hours

no talking, 1 friend, and still got it

[torn nebula]

1 friend is more-or-less mandatory but it's pretty fast otherwise

[queen mango]

Dude no

[leaden kindle]

hello everyone!

[surreal canyon]

Ello

😀

[leaden kindle]

😎

[waxen citrus]

Why is eye tracking disabled? No avatar I use has it working, not even public ones.

[quartz osprey]

because the vrc devs are master programmers

[iron thunder]

Anyone know a good mic for VR? I.. yell.. a lot. The oculus mic gets all flat when some guy thrusts his groin in my face and forces my camera to zoom in.

[vocal shard]

lol

[iron thunder]

Also I record and if the mic audio is bad I hate everything.

[vocal shard]

HyperX cloud alpha

[hollow umbra]

HyperX Cloud 2

or Astro A40 if you're into wireless

[stiff tree]

Oculus mic gets flat?

[iron thunder]

it peaks cause im so loud

im wondering if lowering the volume would help but i can hear the plastic shaking it sounds like. lol

[violet turret]

idk how this works im confused

[hollow umbra]

Yo, anyone have the Kinect for full body

If so, which version

[vocal shard]

xbox one kinect

[hollow umbra]

Thanks

Is there a difference

[vocal shard]

between the 360 and one?

one has a larger tracking fov, and is a bit more accurate

[hollow umbra]

Oh okay

[surreal canyon]

Meh friend just unfriended meh

[stiff tree]

Sad

[surreal canyon]

He was so mean on roblox

He said he wanted me to unfriend him

He got mad

so i unfrieded him*

He wanted that to happen

[hollow umbra]

Wtf roblox?!?

How old are you anyway

[surreal canyon]

Umm

Do i have to?

[hollow umbra]

I mean vrchat is kind of a 13+ game

[surreal canyon]

oh

[viral yacht]

If this is the wrong place, can someone guide me to the right channel? I was using my vive just fine last night. Today I go to use it and one of my base stations won't turn on. The little green dot is there indicating it has power, but it won't fully turn on to track. Anyone else have this issue before?

[surreal canyon]

im not old enough then :c

[hollow umbra]

@viral yacht there was a new steamvr update recently. Maybe it’s that

[viral yacht]

wouldn't be surprised

not really sure how to fix it though

tried using beta steamvr, still nothing

[vocal shard]

i'd suggest unpluggin all the devices and uninstalling steam vr.. then re attach and get it intalled again. then go through room setup tutorial

You could also opt in for steam beta as it might be a common issue that was resolved in the beta updates

[frigid turtle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[subtle prawn]

[runic zealot]

Is it just me or does my avatar not blink and move with the eyes anymore?

[delicate stump]

happened to me too

[raven mulch]

eye tracking was disabled in the current update, so no, it's not just you

[vocal shard]

it's just temporary as far as i know.

[raven mulch]

yeah, heard it had a major security flaw in it that allowed people to write data or something like that to other people's computers

[indigo fern]

i think those were 2 separate issues

[raven mulch]

that's just what i heard, so i could be wrong lol

[finite geyser]

@vocal shard Is a Kinect really working well?

For full body tracking

[placid zealot]

@finite geyser It works decently though I wouldn't recommend it. If you do want to try kinect v2 I hear it's better than the v1.

Definitely not the best thing out there. But it works for some people.

[delicate stump]

if only they didnt need to buy the adapter

though there is a cheaper one apparently

[finite geyser]

@placid zealot so the kinect v2 is the best for body tracking

[placid zealot]

"Best" option yeah for what you get.

[finite geyser]

Hmm

I have a Rift.. is there something better?

[worn nimbus]

I need a new user name the has to do with Glitches. any ideas?

[queen mango]

I heard of Nolo VR.. It's best for FBT if budget's a concern

And why are you asking about names relating to the word ”glitch”?

[worn nimbus]

because

[finite geyser]

@queen mango budget is no conecen

Just want full body

[worn nimbus]

thats like my signature

[queen mango]

Ah.. oof. Oculus is pretty limited when it comes to Full Body Tracking

[finite geyser]

Yeah
I know vive has tracking

I only know kinect

[queen mango]

Nolo would be the best thing for the value it gives as Kinect don't track really well

[finite geyser]

Hmm

[azure pewter]

Hello everyone

[cold ibex]

hii

[indigo fern]

Howdy

[frail gate]

Does anyone want to hang out in vr-chat? i'm a little sleepy but interested in chilling and just talking

transphobes not welcome 🔫

[hoary spruce]

So if you block a friend does it also unfriend them?

[queen mango]

Yes

[lethal summit]

last update=eyes tracking down..

[indigo fern]

Wait, block on discord or in game?

[queen mango]

I think he was referring to being blocked in VRChat

[indigo fern]

Oh, that shouldn't unfriend them then

Pretty sure I've done that plenty of times as a meme

[queen mango]

Dunno.. but if you're blocked when not as a friend, you cannot send a friend request to them

[spring bronze]

Does blocking someone stop them from being seen

and heard

[queen mango]

Yes

For both viewpoints

[plush cove]

guys my sister is searching for mermaids model she wants to know if there are avatar worlds for that

[modest nymph]

If anyone has a Anakin skywalker skin can you message me

[umbral reef]

@queen mango Fairly sure you can still send invites/requests to people that blocked you...
Unless they changed that some times ago because i know some people got harrased that way

[queen mango]

Umm no.. They did change that months ago

[plush cove]

soooo

i am bored tho

[queen mango]

When you're blocked by a user, the "Friend" option is greyed out

Also to mention that you can only send invite to Friends.

[plush cove]

guys what does the personal space setting do?

[queen mango]

Simply put, it culls out players within a short radius around you

[plush cove]

so like they dont appear if they are next to you?

[queen mango]

Yes

[plush cove]

oh thanks

[queen mango]

[umbral reef]

Does it just block the button though or the full api call...

[queen mango]

Probably just the button.

By the way.. I know how they work because I've been on the receiving end of it, twice

[tacit plank]

I've had blocked people add me. It could have been fixed though

Modded clients send mass friend requests hoping to rank up fast

[umbral reef]

Tbh fairly sure you can just use the website to just send requests still then...

[tacit plank]

It wouldn't surprise me if the client allowed all the cheaters to friend eachother

Website probably also allows it, yeah

[vocal shard]

can someone help me in #avatar-optimization

[languid beacon]

Well the best full body tracking for oculus is to just get vive sensors and 3 vive trackers. It works perfectly and is the best solution, it also the most expensive.

[vocal shard]

☝

[lethal summit]

not only the eye tracking is broken

most likely even the hands gesture is broken when u pick up something and holding it in your hand..

[rigid crescent]

Wut

[last hinge]

yo there any shark skins or models out there or do i have to make one 🦈

[hollow umbra]

@lethal summit that's not true

[queen mango]

I doubt the hand gestures are even broken..

[lethal summit]

when i pick up objects the hand doesnt seem to work anymore or it broke just for me

[languid beacon]

And you’ve tried it on different avatars?

Not seeing that myself

[lethal summit]

il try

ok it seems for nanachi avatar that i use...and different nanachi seems to be broken for some reason..

its not just mine..

more of lexi nanachi broke..

[wise belfry]

My vrchat is ded

[lethal summit]

got a network connection killed from vrchat..

i had to restart my pc because of that

or it was my router doing that.(but the connection was up and working...)

[bleak nymph]

same

oofie

[leaden oak]

my connections getting timde out

[jolly nebula]

same. Disconnects every five minutes

[lethal summit]

got a message "vrchat is not responding" and my network was like "limited connection"

something broke up. ive restarted the pc and everything was fine

i have a little question for modders..

where can i get some light effect and particles with musical notes?

i really could use for my navi companion

screen shoot in the #vrchat-pictures

i could use a light effect on it

[amber wharf]

Are the VRChat servers having issues to EU people or in general?

[lethal summit]

only once i got disconnected

[naive crypt]

vrchat have a problem with connections? disconnect every 2 min

[lethal summit]

got a disconnection too once

[vocal shard]

your connection to vrchat timed out - stuck in login loops for 2 hours now

[autumn lynx]

It's been happening to me too

[lethal summit]

guys

do you know where can i get some lights objects effects and some particles? with musical notes?

[vocal shard]

i keep getting disconnected

[pliant heath]

same "your connection to vrchat timed out"

[queen mango]

Hmm.. I get those things sometimes as well, but not to a severe degree..

Is your connection stable?

[vocal shard]

its on vrchats end

i was doing rpg game that was one hour in and it kicked me out and said that then im back in but game all new again like damnit

same

[queen mango]

Damn.. that's unusual.

It could be on VRChat's end as something like that never happened to me until a few months ago

[lethal summit]

@pliant heath its obvious that is not our connection since multiple ppl got the same message

[solemn roost]

@lethal summit about the broken gestures stuff, i got the same problem with every character i uploaded since the latest update

the ones that i uploaded previously do not have problems with it

[lethal summit]

i have an avatar loaded from a map...that one broke too for some reason has exact the same issue...only the palm seem to work when i grab something.. @solemn roost

its about lexi nanachi.

i knew it worked before.

[solemn roost]

strange

[lethal summit]

its like the hand its made from 3 pieces and only 1 works from it

i have a little question...

its about colision stuff.

ive tried to make the hand when i touch the navi to have a collision

but i dont know exactly how to do it with a non dynamic bone like the hair has..

ive installed a collision object on the navi but on the hand...not really sure what should i put there to make it work.

[leaden oak]

Ok after deleting the 2 folders and reseting my registry I logged in thru Steam instead of VrChat and everythign seems to be fine

Dunno why, but it does. When I logged in using my vrchat acc I would dc after couple of mins and couldnt log back in.

[idle cipher]

is it me or eye tracking doesn't work for all the avatars

[umbral oracle]

Eye tracking is currently broken. Should be fixed in the next version

[umbral reef]

Its disabled because of security reasons but next update it will be back

[idle cipher]

ah i see

[vocal shard]

Ayo

Wuss poppin 🅱️

[queen mango]

Nothing much happening here

Just some convos regarding stuff

[umbral reef]

Im freezing my ass off while judging if i should just crawl into bed or make new avatar stuff

[sweet stream]

where do the photos from the camera go again 😂

[umbral reef]

They get thrown into a folder within windows picture folder

[sweet stream]

oh yeah i see thx

[vocal shard]

wtf

im stuck in loading load and i cant cancel

how do i fix this shit i already cleared the cache and it still happens

its on vrchats end you got to w8

[fair hill]

oh well... let's wait...

[vocal shard]

i thought they fixed it earlier cuz i didnt get a dc for an hour but now im back at a loading loop

[fair hill]

same

[vocal shard]

everytime i play vrchat its having problems its why i barely play anymore

[pliant heath]

"your connection to vrchat has timed out"

[vocal shard]

yep same

:l

[molten ocean]

Yes

Yes the connection is stable. Through steam I go, already created a new account, does not help. 😦

A month ago has been stymied, all was normally.

[vocal shard]

same welp all we can do is wait for it to be fixed

[molten ocean]

Is it bug?

[rancid vessel]

Is there any rule against having multiple VRChat accounts?

[queen mango]

I don't think so.. the exception is if you're trying to evade a ban

[ruby needle]

Not when you are not banned no.

[molten ocean]

I have no ban, I don't know why, I can't go!(

[pliant heath]

so any announcement freom the admins about it? cuz its happening to alot of people and no response about it

[queen mango]

They're looking for ways to address the issue

[hallow thistle]

v r c h a t t i m e o u t

nice

[sharp parrot]

i love infinite loading screens

[marble wyvern]

nice after 4 months again in vr and in vrc and i cant even play

[pliant heath]

is it always like this one prime times or only now?

[sharp parrot]

riiip

[queen mango]

It's been happening since last month, I believe

[hallow thistle]

new update or whatever kicks you if you have over a certain amount of ping,

[sharp parrot]

dammit

[hallow thistle]

which is total bullshit cause it doesn't even affect other players..

[pliant heath]

so if I dont live in america im fucked?

[queen mango]

Asia doesn't seem to have that kind of problem that big right now

[hallow thistle]

exactly, I constantly have 190+ ping, and now I had 280, so I've had to restart the game about 10 times now, and Now I just can't be fucked

not in america -> vrchat timeout

[marble wyvern]

like im in a lobby with friends and are the only one who got logged out fro mthat issue -.-

[hallow thistle]

yeah, I was alone with 1 person but noooo, gotta have a timeout every 2 min

[marble wyvern]

lol

cant log back in looping in loading screen love it

[pliant heath]

I guess im just gonna chill for a bit then I guess

[sharp parrot]

scuffed game smh

[marble wyvern]

unstable af qwq

[polar jasper]

Oof not logging off then

[marble wyvern]

wdym

i got forced logged out

[vocal shard]

the crying lol

[ruby burrow]

One temporary solution to the eye tracking issue that is possible for most MMD models, is to do the optical illusion eye tracking method. 👁
It's incredibly quick and simple as long as your model has the required blend shape.
The process is this...
In Unity. Select your avatars main mesh, look for the 'Skinned Mesh Renderer' component on the right and open the blendshapes drop down list, check if you have the blend shape that sucks the pupils back into the eye socket, and set that to an appropriate looking mid value, then upload. This will now be your default face, and apply automatically to all other facial expressions. Done.

I've seen the blendshape translated to something like "Horror Child" or "Camla" in the past, though it may have other names.
To revert this change to normal later, all you do is return that value to 0, and reupload.
You will be able to see it working inside Unity even whilst the scene is paused. Just move the camera side to side and around the face, and notice how it seems to follow you. Tweak the value a little to get the best results based on your model. Enough that the eyes seem to follow, but making sure they're still visible from the side.

[queen mango]

Good info.. but this ain't really the best place to post.

[ruby burrow]

I felt it would be useful general info for people. Most people won't be checking the Avatars channel unless working on something else.

[queen mango]

Ah.. okay

In the meantime, you having issues with network right now over there?

[ruby burrow]

Dunno. I was fine yesterday. Haven't been on since.

[queen mango]

Many EU users here are having network issues right now..

[burnt meadow]

yeah getting disconnect since 10 hours ago

[vocal shard]

ree

[boreal plaza]

mhm i need about 10 tries to get into a lobby and most of the time i'll end up in one alone after some time. if i manage to actually get in a populated one i get disconnected after 1min

[primal oak]

Okay I think I'm out of the loop on some VRchat memes. "You sound like Jameskii" is what I hear quite literally every day I'm on VRchat. Is this a meme? Has someone heard someone say that to anyone not Jameskii?

[queen mango]

Welp.. my game crashed

[vocal shard]

just turn on your VPN dudes

[burnt meadow]

login simulator

[vivid pecan]

are the vrc servers dying rn

[vocal shard]

seems UK, so VPN time and im in fine now

[vivid pecan]

huh

[marble wyvern]

loading screen chat

[vivid pecan]

well i believe i'm connected to the us servers since i live in sa

but yeah anyone else having really slown download speed for models and worlds etc

[gusty cypress]

Not just me then, Phew

I was having so much fun too.

[vivid pecan]

Just got wait until it gets fixed

well i'm trying to hop on vr chat but i'm not going to wait 300 years to load in with a box strapped to my head

[elfin isle]

wait what, with VPN it works?

I thought it was ping based somehow

[queen mango]

So.. my game crashed on me, so I want to send an error report

But I don't know where exactly to send to

[elfin isle]

OH looks like the VPN did the trick

atleast not yet any kickout or timeout anymore

[rigid crescent]

I wonder if eye tracking is going the way of avatar-touching lol

"fixed a security thing" was one of the things that stopped that i'm pretty sure

[warm storm]

is jameskii here?

[rigid crescent]

who

[elfin isle]

rip, timeout again with vpn

[primal oak]

Jameskii might not be here, but someone who gets told they sound like Jameskii is here.
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[molten hornet]

yo is anyone able to help me test my mic? Trying to play music and also be able to use mic
or if anyone knows anything about Voicemeeter

Just need someone to let me know if theres any problems ( like hearing yourself ect )