vrchat-general-2

[limpid river]

i was in a world with someone talking about his 300k model

i hope he gets banned

[ruby needle]

afaik they only really go after someone who goes massive over and gets reported for it

but i can understand that you cant just ban half your community

it was simply tollerated to long without adapting rules or taking action

[limpid river]

well i think 15 times is massive and the report is filed

[ruby needle]

but to get back to the models, i would wish there would be a easier way for artists to claim models and get them removed then a DMCA take down

like a report from to a user / avatar id, and the source post that prohibits the useage

but unfortunately that will also take personal to work trough

which costs money

[limpid river]

yeah

[vocal shard]

what if i take multiple model

lile 10+

put them together

and heavily modify them

to be almost not recognizable from the original

does that count?

[limpid river]

depends on the rights some creator allow frankensteining or using parts of their models others dont

[ruby needle]

yeah depends on rights and usage permissions

[vocal shard]

yeah

[limpid river]

at that point it will be difficult to prove that you used any of the original models

[vocal shard]

but if i take a part of a non-allowed model

and modify enough so nobody recognize it

can they strike me down ?

[ruby needle]

the question is wether or not it can caunt as a part of that model still

[limpid river]

in the worst case a judge would have to decide

[ruby needle]

i think we should be talking about 1:1 copies of mesh data or only tiny modifications

[limpid river]

vrchat would not want any problems and most likely side with the copyright owner

yeah there are still enough caese of this kind

[ruby needle]

if a model uses a TDA base then thats a go even if it was retextured

if someone got a tda base and modified it to another model just as a template

then it would be a different thing and due to fair use in US should be allright

however, texture editing is ofc out. just changing the color or sticking ears on something is not a new model

[limpid river]

it reminds me of some "model creators" i met. they tell storries like the are the best but all the did was appling some shader to mmd models

[ruby needle]

oh speaking of that

somethign has to be done about people selling services for mmd stuff

most of which are done illigaly without any taxing and shit

that is the biggest issue artists have

i think you originally mentioned it to?

[vocal shard]

selling services for mmd ?

[ruby needle]

or the other person

yeah

[vocal shard]

you mean frankensteining models ?

[limpid river]

selling services for mmd stuff? you mean commissions that are basically just tuppers tutorial ?

[ruby needle]

that

or even simple porting

[vocal shard]

llike Bem ?

[ruby needle]

if you do it for money

[vocal shard]

that take some models

slap them together

and you have to pay a minimum of 200 bucks ?

[ruby needle]

yes

tho

200 bucks for a frankenstein mmd?

but yeah from simple paid import to that

[limpid river]

yeah it takes the whole issue and makes a a level more illegal

[ruby needle]

any kind that involes making a provit

[vocal shard]

@ruby needle https://imgur.com/VNROmPX

[ruby needle]

$200 starting from parts

someone fell on the head big time

[vocal shard]

he stopped commissions apparently

[ruby needle]

you can get scratch models in that area allready

[vocal shard]

only do it for friends

yeah

[ruby needle]

i wonder why

[vocal shard]

PolarStar is making a model from scratch

fully rigged

[ruby needle]

propably also "please pay with "send money to friend""

[vocal shard]

between 100 and 250 bucks

Question... Can every newgrounds game be downloaded?

[ruby needle]

ask google?

[limpid river]

yes but maybe ask taht in random or public ?

[ruby needle]

yeah

[indigo ravine]

I dont think this really classifies as a bug report so I'll put this here for now. For over a week my avatar, friends and worlds list is completely empty. In Unity they still show up fine. Tried manually logging out and in but that did not help. Searching people have said it can be a server issue but this seems to be too long to be a server issue, I'm gonna guess. Anyone an idea?

[ruby needle]

did you already follow #vrchat-support ?

that would be the first step always

[limpid river]

^

[ruby needle]

additionally this might be worth a try : https://support.streamlabs.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004232954-How-to-solve-IPv6-issues

tho it doest not fit the symptoms that much

[vocal shard]

No (╯Oʖ̯0)╯︵ ┻━┻

[indigo ravine]

Yeah. I have tried the steps. Should have mentioned it, sorry.

[floral flax]

┬──┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ) There you go

[ruby needle]

so lets get us back to topic

i looking forward for vrchat to implement a store and exchange platform

which i heard is definitely on the list

[vocal shard]

Oh for might's why VRCBot 😑

[ruby needle]

not only to give a official platform for it but also to allow to have controll over it

[limpid river]

ohhh how about lootboxes for avatars hides under table

[ruby needle]

🔫 out

lets stay serious

one of the biggest issues in teh commission szene is always the payment

wether its scammers

or legit people that get money via paypal per friends

it is a business and needs to be taxed and shit

[vocal shard]

Sir Merc. We have a Class Beta Violation. Shall we proceed to take action?!

[ruby needle]

i would really love to see some kind of system implemented where artists can "borrow" models to users

to have users test it

and not have to upload it for them or share the files

after the test the user could pay

and the artists transfere it via the system

which would allow users to no have to take any action except accepting it

[limpid river]

@ruby needle i get what you mean unfortunately i really should be going to sleep now.

[ruby needle]

also you could allow users without the trust system to get avatars by trusted creators

aw

[vocal shard]

Class Beta/ Action... Take√

[umbral reef]

Well the VRC trader community does have a trusted? rank for creators and users can show off there commissioned stuff
But there is no way to check how trust worthy an user is and prob never will be...

[vocal shard]

@limpid river Nuthing personel Uses Sleep Enducing Ooze

[ruby needle]

it is a third party community tho

[umbral reef]

Big banks got problems with checking if users are trust worthy so let stand that you can judge it for large amount of fully unknowns

[ruby needle]

and while they do have a review for persons to get the role it does not change much

first of the way they push to unly use trusts artists is imo bad

[umbral reef]

There are always bad eggs in the 'high end egg' baskets

Lmoa look at the road

Those peeps /should/ all have an drivers license

Most cant drive for shit

[ruby needle]

[umbral reef]

And in most blue collar? (thinks thats the english name) jobs you also have plenty of unaware people doing there job

[ruby needle]

vrct is defnitely a nice third party commnity but having a official implemented system can be a lot more benefitial for all

[umbral reef]

Then VRC is putting themselves up for probably a lot of legal trouble

And if things go wrong

Or a cunt goes true- It all falls on VRC end

[ruby needle]

legally it does not change much

they handle the models

they dont need to handle money

p2p systems work aslwell

like ebay

you pay directly to the artists

and only the % to ebay

[umbral reef]

They still handle with copyrighted products...

[vocal shard]

Wait... If someone causes legal trouble in the app The moderation team will get blamed for not putting rules or having better care of their players?!

[ruby needle]

we talk about commissions and original official work?

[umbral reef]

If they give greenlight to someone who only shares unallowed files they are out of luck

Both but im mainly talking about the shit VRC can (And knowing how the internet works at one point will) get

[ruby needle]

on a market place kind of platform the dealer is still the one in charge if the TOS are set up right

[umbral reef]

Avatar creators already blame VRC for allowing peeps to use unallowed avatars so...

[ruby needle]

but they dont

[vocal shard]

So... Do either of you know about Abobo's Big Adventure...?

[ruby needle]

if you have a real original model you can always file a takedown

[umbral reef]

So most MMD avatars creators/combiners didnt take there model down with the clear reason "thanks VRC"

Yea like that works...

They dont take away the pc files so its pointless then 🤷
Why do you think most game companies dont give a shit about there models being ripped unless you earn money from it

Its not worth the effort

[ruby needle]

cus they are big enogh to not have to care

[umbral reef]

Let stand that a lone person can take the time, effort and luck to even find the model being used..

[ruby needle]

yes

[kind wharf]

why can't i join Kami

avatar world

[ember helm]

I started with a Steam account and had to switch to mess w/ avatars, what's the wait period?

It's too bad accounts can't be linked

[ruby needle]

endless wait

cus waiting aint getting you anywhere

Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a certain trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.

You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord the typical time this takes seems to roughly be 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.

Make sure you are not using a steam account because those can not be verified and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.

http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet

[ember helm]

20 hours in game?

[ruby needle]

no

read again

[ember helm]

I did, doesn't specify what the relevant time reports are against

[ruby needle]

its not based on a time at all

sigh

[ember helm]

I understand that, but when I see a report of 20-40 hour average - are these hours in game or in general going in and out of VRChat

[ruby needle]

did you even try to undersant what the text tells you

[ember helm]

I did and if you don't have an answer, that's fine.

[gaunt dagger]

If I recall, getting blocked constantly delays you getting trusted and gaining the ability to upload a custom avatar. Correct me if I'm mistaken~

[ruby needle]

nobody knows

but likely

[shut sail]

Where can I get help for issues involving Unity crashing every time I try to import the VRChat SDK in Unity?

[ruby needle]

you can ask the community by posting the logs in #avatars-2-general

before you do tho, make sure you use the correct version

[shut sail]

Alright. Thanks. ;w;

[thorn latch]

I have 213 hours in vrchat, I started in january, took a break from march til last week. I can still upload avatars, but when I tried to use a model from a friends private world, it gave me the restricted account message

the heck

anyone know what's wrong?

[vocal shard]

Your account might have some of its privileges disabled as you were not online for a long time. I suggest emailing [e-mail]

[thorn latch]

That seems like a good idea, but I've heard of people emailing and never getting a response.

[proper prism]

Helow ppl

[vocal shard]

Depending on what they're emailing support, they may or may not get a response.

[thorn latch]

Fair enough. I decided to try to log into my account on the site, and its hanging on a loading bar, is that normal? or is the login server having trouble?

[vocal shard]

The server doesn't seem to be having any trouble as I can log in just fine. Try refreshing or re-logging.

[vocal shard]

so after a few hours of looking up solutions and trying stuff out, even restarting my pc, I cant get audio to come through the Vive headset xc

I have lost all hope xc

i am gonna have to use my own headphones and deal with the wires. rip

[ruby needle]

write the support tho

if its a hardware fault you dont just want to deal with it

this is not a 200$ WMR but the Pro version of the Vive

[vocal shard]

vive pro

[ruby needle]

yes... but thats a different story

[vocal shard]

My issue is everything is based on the Vive, and not the pro

Most of the time they talk about an audio jack but I dont have that

[ruby needle]

jup

[vocal shard]

siiigh this sucks

[ruby needle]

yes

[vocal shard]

I dont see any reason why the audio shouldnt work

[ruby needle]

everything is on?

not muted in windows?

did you do the testing?

did that play?

[vocal shard]

yes, everything is on, nothing is muted, sound comes through on speakers and on my headphones but not on the Vive

[ruby needle]

does the test work if you right click on it in the audio device list

[vocal shard]

Test?

[ruby needle]

right click

should have a test thing

to play some "bell" sounds

[vocal shard]

no sound comes out

[ruby needle]

this is the wrong channel but as a last thing if you havent allready, reinstall the driver

first uninstall then install again

[vocal shard]

Uninstall what?

the driver

.-.

[ruby needle]

https://dl.vive.com/oobe/VIVEPRO/ViveProHmdSetup.exe

[vocal shard]

Oh this

ok lemme reinstall then

Nothin

xc

[ruby needle]

can only repeat that if you need further help you should contat the vive supoprt and this is the wrong channel since this is getting longer and longer

but dont just deal with it, if its a DOA part you want it replaced

[vocal shard]

Will there be Windows Mixed Reality support in the future?

[ruby needle]

you should be able to use it with steamvr 🤔

[vocal shard]

what room would I go to ask for help if I needed it, then?

[ruby needle]

the vive support

[vocal shard]

It says on Vrchats steam page that Windows Mixed Reality isnt supported

[ruby needle]

since this is not vrchat but a hmd fault

if you want to get more community help then #general-media

[vocal shard]

ok

Thanks

[ruby needle]

@vocal shard steam pages say a lot

doesn't have to be true tho

WMR works afaik

[rough pulsar]

@vocal shard Windows Mixed Reality is supported through SteamVR, even if the steam page doesn't say so.

[vocal shard]

While I wait for a response from my ticket, should I remove the headphones and just put them back later or

Just wait and not use the Vive at all

dont use them since you apparently have faulty headphones

I have a bad feeling it has SOMETHING to do with the plugs themselves but

idk

lemme try something

could someone help me real quick?

[ruby needle]

not if you dont tell us what you need help with

[rough pulsar]

@vocal shard Is your problem no audio on a vive pro?

[ruby needle]

yes

[vocal shard]

Whenever I press v to talk it doesnt work

[rough pulsar]

With the latest version of windows 10 I've had audio problems a lot (with the pro and other things) and it's a pain in the tits.

Have a look on the vive subreddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive/) and try searching for vive pro audio and see if there's anything similar to your problem there.

[vocal shard]

ya its vive pro on windows 10. sadly lol

I just changed the usb plug so lemme see if that helps

Otherwise i will check the link

[rough pulsar]

I don't use the built-in headphones on my pro, otherwise I might have run into the same issue and been able to help more.

[vocal shard]

alright to the link I go XD thanks

@rough pulsar Thank you so much!!!

All working now

At least for me, setting steamVR to change headphones back and forth was causing the issue

I changed it to not change anything, reset the box, and it works! Thank youu

[rough pulsar]

Huh, I wonder if that's related to my occasional mic issues. I'll have to have a try.

[vocal shard]

Now I just need to put in those hours I can save my own models

And not have to go hunting for them when I get on x3

[ruby needle]

glad it works now

[vocal shard]

Seriously, i have had someone on reddit who just said that avatar stealing is not an issue and doesn't need to be resolved.

[ruby needle]

we know his hobby then

[ocean kraken]

she has me blocked

[ruby needle]

then specifically this is the wrong place

private matters are not to be discussed here

thats the rules

#rules

[ocean kraken]

dude. I´m telling this for her to unblock me chill.

so i can pm her

[ruby needle]

sorry but this doesnt change it. this is the wrong plattform

[covert chasm]

If they have you blocked: 1. It's probably because they don't want to chat with you, 2. they won't get pings from you mentioning them

[ocean kraken]

You are right.

[carmine dew]

wait tupper

how many times do you need to be blocked by people before you like, cant upload avatars anymore? cause I heard that was a thing

[ruby needle]

there is no statements to any of the systems parameters

and there wont be

if you heard something it is a rumor or assumption

[vocal shard]

So I noticed an Icon abobe someone head with an ear crossed out

I guess that means they deafened themselves?

[covert chasm]

Nope, they muted you

[ruby needle]

i dont know what it means

[covert chasm]

for some reason

[ruby needle]

also no

[covert chasm]

they might have all users muted, or just you

[vocal shard]

Oh XD

[ruby needle]

i had enogh conversations with people with the icon

it sometimes is just there

[covert chasm]

ah.. strange

[ruby needle]

but you can just talk with em normally

[covert chasm]

That sounds like a bug

[ruby needle]

yes

and its old

🤔

[vocal shard]

if someone muted themselves, or I muted myself, would people be able to tell?

[ruby needle]

i first thought that its a mute indicator

[vocal shard]

Like with an icon or something

[ruby needle]

but i could talk with them just fine

and it was on random persons so 😄

so no reason why they even would be muted

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[covert chasm]

strange

if you see it again send us a bug report

logs, etc

[ruby needle]

will do

[vocal shard]

I am guessing there is no way to tell if someone muted themselves then x3

[ruby needle]

there is

... they dont talk

[vocal shard]

well dur XD

But I mean as like an icon or any other means

[uncut trail]

Fed up with stupid boss fight too impossible

for bsd2

[orchid otter]

I have a batshit insane idea

What if when moving instead of using wasd you had to also shift gears like a car

[safe prism]

get an h-shifter and do it boyo

[light wedge]

tupper is there somthing happening to the servers?

cuz all my friends arnt there

[ancient adder]

Been dead for a few mins

[light wedge]

i crashed came back and now i have no friends

anyone else loose all there friends?

or just me

[brittle furnace]

must be something going on VRchat

again i cant see my friend list

and it keepos kicking me offline

[trim hamlet]

Seems like the friends API is having some issues again

[brittle furnace]

whenever someone joins the room

[light wedge]

ok just making sure

oh hey nep

[brittle furnace]

yeah i keep crashing hen someone join me or i join them haha

[vocal shard]

is anyone else unable to pull their friend lists?

can't upload avatars why

[light wedge]

they are having server troubles rn

[vocal shard]

ok

[placid umbra]

Thanks for the reports, looking into it

[tranquil vapor]

friends lists are broke again

[light wedge]

and crashed again

[tranquil vapor]

oof

[light wedge]

aev thanks for all the hard work !!

my crashing btw is not ur faults i have a bad processor

[halcyon kestrel]

GOSHH TUPPER ACTING LIKE A...... admin

[rocky warren]

[rigid crescent]

what's the announcement? for some reason that whole channel won't load

[paper cloak]

yeah

[visual zealot]

oh yay so im not alone in just that channel

im assuming its about the friends list being broken

[rigid crescent]

Oh, finally loaded after 10 minutes, it was the friends list yeah

[carmine dew]

here we go again with another friends list issue

[visual zealot]

the hackers are on new strats

They arent even going for the game, just for our social wellbeings

They arent even going for the game, just for our social wellbeings

[raven girder]

This isn't hackers doing this

this is on VRC's side.

[fleet flicker]

yes

[stuck iron]

I left to fix play space, then rejoin my friend now I can't. What perfect timing

[visual zealot]

not even Michael Jordan could jump high enough to catch the joke going over your head

[vocal shard]

my friends list doesn't seem to showing up...???

[covert chasm]

Please check your pings in #announcements 😃

[vocal shard]

ok ty

[covert chasm]

Are people still having issues with the friends list?

[azure tundra]

Yea I am and a few friends in game are as well

[proper stump]

yea

[azure tundra]

if you're logged in before whatever broke happened, you retain the list you had

but after restarting, its empty

[polar elm]

iworking for me

[vocal shard]

Not working on my end

[azure tundra]

Online and offline friendlist vanished

[proper stump]

@covert chasm by the way, you know how many people fake being you with shaders right? xD

[golden bluff]

Not working for me

[covert chasm]

@proper stump Yep, report people that you see doing that.

[proper stump]

i got you

i figured your just popular

[hoary spruce]

I need help T_T

Rift and steamvr

Being really fucky for some reason

[vocal shard]

How iis the friendslist thing still not working

o -o

Seriously.

[hoary spruce]

Failed to create D3D surface for window?

I really am at a loss here, the oculus app itself is working fine.

[vocal shard]

i was in aa public pug today, and there was like 20 people with the same exact name

and almost all of them didnt even know they had the name

same avatar too

[rocky warren]

just name yourself tupperluver69

achieve the same effect

what dummies

[vocal shard]

"¤

[rocky warren]

i listen to tupper report vrchat changes as asmr when i'm in bed

try it, it's therapeutic

[uncut trail]

lolb wtf

[visual zealot]

I want to go see my friends, and now this is forcing me to talk to STRANGERS

[vital rune]

friends list is fucking dead

[true sky]

when i went on, some guy was trying to friend me and told me that if i didnt, they would dox me for it 😂

got mad because i called him an impersonator

[alpine kestrel]

I would just do it for a second and them unfriend him

I mean you did listen to them then

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[true sky]

why i dont accept random friend requests

cause most just pull out a crash avatar

[uncut trail]

Geee im so pissed off rn

thanks

[true sky]

is it me now or can we not upload avatars rn?

but yes @alpine kestrel

i did report the guy ;P

[alpine kestrel]

Good

[true sky]

i did get a good laugh ngl

[finite kraken]

what's the difference from OBJ files and FBX

[true sky]

OBJ is just an object file

[bold spoke]

@finite kraken both are different ways to save a model

[vocal shard]

Worked on an avatar(s) all day trying to atlas and merge them, but it kept failing or messing up. Smh.

[finite kraken]

because i noticed when i normally add props like shoulder armor helmets swords i use as a OBJ file but when i was importing a boat to my world as a OBJ it was missing a bunch of materials so i switched to FBX and it fixed it

[true sky]

Differences @finite kraken
https://fileinfo.com/extension/obj
https://fileinfo.com/extension/fbx

[hoary spruce]

So uh, my right controller isn’t working and my left controller is controlling my right hand using rift...

What am I doing wrong?

[cedar vine]

Does not using graphics cards work in VRChat at all?

I hella lag.

[polar jasper]

VRChat is heavily CPU based and not GPU. Only VR uses more gpu really

[cedar vine]

mhm

[leaden kiln]

single core cpu

[covert chasm]

#open-beta-info

[ruby needle]

nice

to bad the log is never updated

[raven silo]

youtube search coming back You can now create YouTube Search Video Panels! A keyboard will appear for you (but if you're on Desktop, you can always use your own keyboard). Find details on how to set up a searchable YouTube panel in our documentation here.

https://docs.vrchat.com/v2018.2.3/docs/vrchat-201823

[modern oyster]

hey, how i report someone that crash me while i was streaming earlier?

[raven silo]

@modern oyster #moderation-reports

[modern oyster]

thx

[quartz escarp]

Hello

[hoary spruce]

Hey, I’m having trouble with my sound in VRchat through oculus, does anyone know of a possible solution? I’m running it through the oculus app and not steamvr if that helps

[floral aspen]

you may be launching it from oculus home, but you're still using steamvr. The oculus client hasn't been a thing for over a year.

[finite kraken]

i am having a tough time joining in my world in vrchat the one i am making and testing

[raven silo]

@hoary spruce make sure your playback setting set your rift headset first

before going in vrchat

there no option to change speaker in setting in game

but they should add that

lol

[mossy totem]

does anyone know how to make my room colder.... cause its impossible to play in vr with out having a heat stroke. my room is hitting 34 C at day...

but i was a beta tester too..

i was playing the game since it only had under a thousand players max

and no one really knew how to make avatars

and avatar worlds were an new thing

[azure wren]

Why dont you Get an AC?

[limpid river]

if you live somewhere on rent base it is not that easy to get ac

[raven silo]

@mossy totem buy AC

that fix your problem you get one in walmart

[mossy totem]

i need lots of ice

just pour it on the ceiling fan

[lapis sandal]

I joined a friend's game and accidentally found a secret society of austrailians. I got asked so many questions in 2 seconds.

(i'm mute)

[umbral reef]

Should have said "Oi mate"

And you would have been fine on all answers 👌

[vocal shard]

and use an upside down avatar so they can see you correctly

[umbral reef]

One of my main internet gaming buddies for like 4 years where the aussies- So im an outsider expert

[vocal shard]

@lapis sandal Do remove the pepe at the end, thanks.

[lapis sandal]

I will because you asked, but i'm curious why?

[vocal shard]

#rules

16. No emoji and pictures/memes that are widely associated with hate speech, or are highly inappropriate, including pepe.

[lapis sandal]

Dang

[still lark]

Kinda silly because I could just say bad stuff with the thinking emoji, and now the thinking emoji is associated with hate speech.

[vocal shard]

don't question the rules, just accept them
a lot of people tried to argue about that, it's pointless, really

i want to use my pepe too

[still lark]

Didn't exactly question them

[umbral reef]

If the whole world does it and an indexing group for hate symbols classes it like one- yes

[warped thorn]

Yup. This isn't the place to petition anything.

[still lark]

but the underlying meaning is thinking emoji, not hate speech

[lilac swan]

The proper channel to ask for the rule to change would be to email "[e-mail]"

[inner cape]

[vital rune]

I mean you can blame mass media for shedding pepe in a very bad light

hell they even tried to shed the ok hand in a very bad light also

[umbral reef]

That was just funny as fuck

[vocal shard]

👌

[vital rune]

as if mass media were controlled by a bunch of idiots that want to shed everything in a bad light

[lapis sandal]

[umbral reef]

We even got our teacher to do that and the showed him the photo
Even he got it was a joke 😂

[vocal shard]

some people got way too much free time

[vital rune]

they just want everything censored

[lilac swan]

Before any long discussion starts to take place, I'm going to do a Ruuubick and point out #general-media would be better suited for this topic

[vital rune]

sure

[cold talon]

This emote should be added to vrcd

[umbral reef]

Someone needs to make an emote that throws up a sign that saying "Please move to #general-media. Sponsored by: Ruuubick"

[lilac swan]

Pill hasn't responded to my emote submission :(

[vocal shard]

Pill is afk a lot of the time recently

[inner cape]

Zarni

[lilac swan]

Most likely just busy with other stuff

[cold talon]

Knukles emote

[inner cape]

Join our server for them sweet emotes

We can put yours in

[lilac swan]

DM me the link

[inner cape]

Pog

[umbral reef]

Poggrrs

[cold talon]

Oh my zarni joining

[umbral reef]

Zarni is one of us

[vocal shard]

2 mods yet ?

gonna take over vrchat real soon

[cold talon]

Vrcd total domination

[vital rune]

inb4 it becomes Skynet

[lapis sandal]

(quoting/continuing a message i made about the secret soceity of australians)

The server was nearly full, I was NOT expecting to see that.

Some guy just comes up and says "Who are you? Where are you from? Who's your friend?" in I kid you not.. 3 seconds!

I just give him the 'i dunno' shrug, because I thought it was just banter.

But then I hear him say.. "You know I'm gonna have to kick you if you aren't in the australian vrchat discord, right?"

[vocal shard]

Inb4 robbits arrive

the fuck are those guys?

[hoary spruce]

So, I’m looking at upgrading my computer since it’s a liiiiitle bit slow with VRC. Are there any specific things that should be the first thing you upgrade for VR?

[vocal shard]

by looking at the minimum spec required for VR

[umbral reef]

Wait a fucking Aussie discord

Ow my

Learning all the secrets today

[vocal shard]

you can check that on their respective website

[lapis sandal]

yeah, theres a reddit post about it

[umbral reef]

@hoary spruce if you want it just for vrc look into a high single core count

[floral aspen]

focus on a good cpu if you want to increase VRC performance

^

[umbral reef]

And another tip is to always close everything in the background and lower the games wettings

Settings*

[near saffron]

Yeah I find not having unity on helps a bit

[hoary spruce]

As far as I can tell, I meet the minimums already

[umbral reef]

@hoary spruce are you running programs in the background?

Also make sure the PC doesn't thermal throtal (don't have a layer of dust inside(

[floral aspen]

what are your specs out of curiosity?

[warped thorn]

This might sound silly, but... you might want to Quit Discord when you go onto VRChat too.

[vocal shard]

true true

[umbral reef]

Discord eats a fair bit in the background

Same for browsers

Or tools like flu.x

[vocal shard]

jesus

flu.x

only changing the color of the screen

but take so fucking much

[north axle]

VRChat isn't really the friendliest app when it comes to performance.

[near saffron]

Not sure if it helps but I don’t have oculus home running in the background, for anyone on oculus.

[lapis sandal]

You guys saw the most recent event(s) right? How would I attend "Storytime with Magnanix"? I don't think it says which world it is.

[north axle]

#events

I guess you might find something there.

[umbral reef]

@vocal shard checks time and edits colors after for every pixel

[warped thorn]

@lapis sandal I think that's one of those "DM them and ask for an invite" things.

[lapis sandal]

Oh, ok.

[umbral reef]

It's fairly optimized for how they do it what gets you insane results but if you want full performance it's uuuu

@lapis sandal join the vrc event discord first

Moet event info can be found therr

[vocal shard]

i need to fucking backup stuff on my PC and reset it

i have way too much bullshit on it

almost 3 TB of random bullshit

[north axle]

Yeah. I bet everyone would hate to be in position of VRChat team right now.

[umbral reef]

LMAO being a startup ish Dev always gets you shit

Users don't get "not before a full release"

[vocal shard]

yeah

[hoary spruce]

I have a sandy bridge I5, 2x4 GB RAM, a GTX 1050, and an ASUS P8B75 motherboard. I’m not really great with tech so bare with me if any of that is too vague @floral aspen

[vocal shard]

lot of folks forget that vrchat is in early release

[north axle]

Especially when millions of people already know about your project.

[vocal shard]

the gtx 1050 is barely enough

[floral aspen]

lots of people don't care it's in early access. They don't understand what EA means and think VRC should perform like a finished product.
and yeah, what Svel said

[north axle]

"VRChat is EA" always makes me think they're working for Electronic Arts.

[hoary spruce]

So that’s what I should look at upgrading first then?
What’s the standard?

[umbral reef]

I seen a website start upisu idea die because peeps expected to much from the devs

But those devs where honest to God retarded though

[floral aspen]

probably need around a 1060 for VR graphics card wise. Also your cpu is 2nd gen and we are now on the 9th gen. Could use an upgrade there as well

[hoary spruce]

Also, I’m sure this is a really dumb question but do I have to stop using the 1050 if I get a bigger graphics card?

[floral aspen]

you don't have to, but you won't get great performance in VR

oh, you meant if you get another card

yes, if you get another card you can't use the 1050 at the same time

[ruby needle]

I think you can keep it for multi monitor but it makes little sense

[floral aspen]

gpus have like 3 or 4 video outputs, no reason to keep it for that

[umbral reef]

@ruby needle doesn't it performance hurt then?

[ruby needle]

Technically the game should render via the card the monitor that it's displayed on is connected to

But again it makes little sense unless you have a crap ton of monitors

[floral aspen]

mhmm, and most people don't have more than 3 max, which a single gpu can handle. I'd sell the 1050 and put it towards a new card

[vocal shard]

a 1070 is one of the best to get ATM

[floral aspen]

yeah, a 1070 has a decent price and will give you good performance in VR

[umbral reef]

Can also way for the news GTX series to drop

And see if you can nag a cheap 1080

[floral aspen]

I think the 1170/2070 is coming out in October or November though

[ruby needle]

Personally without vr the first should be CPU and RAM

[floral aspen]

yeah, the cpu is what you need to upgrade first since it's your oldest component

[ruby needle]

For Mt application's it's fine but vrc not so much. Also the ram

8gb is definitely outdated

[floral aspen]

yeah would recommend 16GB for a lot games these days

[ivory folio]

and google chrome

[floral aspen]

what?

oh, I get it now lol

chrome is why I got 32GB of RAM lol

[warped thorn]

Darn you, Chrome!

[floral aspen]

Chrome will never be able to eat all my RAM ever again

[umbral reef]

Your not trying hard enough @floral aspen

[floral aspen]

damn you're right. Should have gone with 64GB

[ivory folio]

apparently the more ram you have, the more chrome will try to use

[vocal shard]

Is there a 128GB PC 🤔 or it doesn't exist yet?

[floral aspen]

yes 128GB has been done before

it's really dumb though

even 32GB is overkill for most applications

anything over 64GB sees such diminishing returns you're basically throwing your money away

[vocal shard]

I know there is a PlayStation Cicle thing that the government wasted their money on 🤔 because they wanted computing data for a cheaper price but a patch from PlayStation prohibited using the PlayStation as a computing mechanism

Does that count as above 64GB?

[ruby needle]

128 ist nothing once we look at workstation / server

[floral aspen]

true, but we're talking about consumer pc's here

[ruby needle]

Also seen them

[umbral reef]

@ivory folio the more ram not being used*

[ruby needle]

Higher end dual cpu rigs from people with to much money nearly always have EM

[cold talon]

What we need is non volatile ram

[umbral reef]

To be fair I got like 2.5k to spend on a new PC 👀
What would be good to get

[cold talon]

Just think of what you could do with it

Shut down pc, save state on ram, instantly recover

No spinup time

[floral aspen]

mhmm, with that much RAM you could put the OS on a ramdisk and have pretty much instantaneous boot times

[kindred glacier]

help

the voices of everyone suddenly gets muted

like i see them speaking, but not hearing them

[azure wren]

You have vrset?

If you do try to unplug your headset

If u got headhponrs

Unplug those

If it doesnt work

Restart vrc

[kindred glacier]

i mean

it effects everyone

not just me

only fix is restart

[tacit plank]

Use firefox instead

I managed to fit almost 200 tabs in 10GB ram

[grand thistle]

you know a ramdisk loses date when you shut your pc off right

[tacit plank]

Just save the image

[ivory folio]

@primal glacier this yours? https://i.imgur.com/PxygVkW.jpg

[primal glacier]

its not, people made models with my name

i have a version of that

a red one

and people try to copy my name

its awfull

[vocal shard]

i saw that model a lot

[primal glacier]

He grabbed my backpack texture tho big oof

[jaunty totem]

which version of unity do i need to use to create an avatar?

[modern sand]

5.6.3p1

https://unity3d.com/unity/qa/patch-releases/5.6.3p1

[jaunty totem]

ok,thx

[indigo fern]

[fervent crypt]

10 days,still cannot upload avatars....

[winged quartz]

!outputlog

[floral flax]

You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt

[safe yacht]

Technical question! Whenever I play VRChat I have to turn off my normal speakers in the Windows settings for sound to work in my Oculus while in game. But oddly enough, if I dont do this, I can hear my game sound whilst in the Oculus menu. But the moment I close the Oculus menu, the sound disappears. What should I do?

[fast bronze]

Get a VIVE?

Lmao

[rancid mortar]

The thing I think of there is how Oculus creates like a "phantom desktop" when it's running.. maybe it also creates a "phantom desktop audio" channel or something?

I have no idea, but I do know that I've had a bazillion sound issues with the Oculus software.

I still really enjoy having one though :<

[safe yacht]

It’s not a problem in any other game.

Only in vrchat

[cold talon]

Get second life?

Lmao

[safe yacht]

Huh?

[cold talon]

Just quoting haceo

With the get a vive

[ruby needle]

Oculus own software obviously knows that it can play out sound to its hmd. Unfortunately not every started app works with it without changing the default audio device tho.

For openvr you can tell it to switch it on startup and return it to normal on closing

You can also mirror it while active so you can play out in hmd and desktop

[north axle]

You know what, VRChat actually needs a good competitor.

[polar jasper]

It would for sure change some things

[north axle]

I'd support a few other platforms but none of them seem good enough for content creators.

Hopefully, Janus VR will get better.

[polar jasper]

Maybe, I've seen a few others that also could be a nice competitor for VRChat

[inner cape]

Pan wants to ruin more games with streamers, memes and hackers

[north axle]

I think Sansar might be good as well. However, on order for an app to become highly popular, it needs to meet several requirements, like being on Steam (or another highly recognizable platform) and allowing users upload custom content.

I want to support other platforms because it would motivate VRChat (not just devs, but the community as well) to try and make VRC stand out as an app worth other people's attention.

[vocal shard]

the problem is that the other apps are not worth other people's attention

VRChat got a lot of exposure with that retarded meme

but people don't care or ignore the existence of other apps that are like VRC

[rough pulsar]

It seems that each of the others similar to vrchat do some things much better than vrchat. But vrchat manages to do more things at a reasonable level.
Sansar has some really high quality worlds
JanusVR has their portal system
HighFidelity seems to be able to support large user count, and has an in-world editor
AltspaceVR has multiplatform support

But all of them have other significant shortcomings as well. Moreso than vrchat in the same areas.

[north axle]

In-world editor sounds great.

[rough pulsar]

It's good, and bad in some ways.
One of the downsides is areas are difficult to reset, since all changes are persistent.

[north axle]

Pretty sure the next platform with custom content, as well as scripting, and possibly a built-in editor could be good enough.

[south mist]

i just want a platform that let me bend over when i dont have fingers mapped

[north axle]

Also, I hope VRChat gets less popular soon because I can't stand inappropriately oversexualized content.

[polar jasper]

Wouldn't that be a thing with any game that allow custom content?

[north axle]

Hopefully, another game's moderators would have stricter rules.

[north axle]

Yeah, but it's making me feel very pessimistic for some reason.

[safe yacht]

That's a you problem.

[polar jasper]

Nothing wrong with being pessimistic about something. Especially with a early access game

[safe yacht]

You can moderate with them. Report content that is breaking rules instead of complaining about it. Help with rule enforcement.

[vocal shard]

you can even crash avatar stealer yourself

[north axle]

It's more about the community's attitude that's getting my attention. I don't remember having the same atmosphere as from the days when VRChat still had a long way to go.

[safe yacht]

Yeah dont do that.

Dont break rules just because you're salty.

I've experienced that the people who talk loudly about how they are "anti-crasshers" are just as bad and will use it on you the moment they don't like you. They're just as weak and pathetic.

What community and attitude?

There's no organization here. No community to speak of.

[north axle]

People used to respect the platform more back in the day is what I'm saying.

[slow olive]

Yeah I'm with @safe yacht, dropping truth in here.

[safe yacht]

Popularity comes with problems.

Using the Unity engine also comes with problems.

There was a spike in hackers and the like a few months ago, when the Knuckles meme was hot. But its leveled out.

What does respect the platform mean?

[north axle]

Not trying to discourage people from playing the game.

[safe yacht]

So what does respect the platform mean?

[north axle]

Respect means doing something that is not associated with trying to discourage people from playing the game.

[umbral reef]

To be fair with what pan said over the sexual stuff within VRC

Its everywhere

[safe yacht]

That was fairly vague.

[umbral reef]

You cant hide from it unless you dont join public worlds

[safe yacht]

Define oversexualized?

I dont know your moral compass.

[slow olive]

I believe they were not fond of the "over sexualized content," don't know if they're still talking about that. Which hasn't increased or decreased imo. If they mean the crashing assholes then those peeps are definitely annoying but not a sign of any larger force

[safe yacht]

The game was unknown, had a smaller player base that was more dedicated to it. It got popular and attracted the attention of people, for good and bad. Some of those happen to be people that are out to ruin your day in video games. Those exist everywhere and all the time in any game.

You can stop the crashing now.

[slow olive]

You have piqued my interest

[safe yacht]

You can also report them, as I do, or they’ll never be punished.

Theres a particle limiter.

I dont know the details on how to make it work, but theres a section for it.

[slow olive]

Oh dang, haven't hopped on in a minute. That's good news. And +1 to reporting for sure.

[safe yacht]

Unity is easy to hack, thats the sad news.

[slow olive]

Nobody expects the complete removal of people who exploit the game.

So that's not saying much.

[safe yacht]

I do :p

[slow olive]

I would love it, but it's not realistic.

[safe yacht]

It’s a work that never stops!

[tacit plank]

So Pimax has 4k VR and is cheaper than Vive, why am I not hearing about anyone who uses it? Does it not actually work?

[slow olive]

What I can hope for is some more efficient community management, however VRC admin want to implement that.

[vocal shard]

@slow olive @safe yacht the particle limiter is just a json file

[tacit plank]

It's cheaper and higher resolution though

[polar jasper]

I like this comparison https://www.pimaxvr.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Pimax4k_03.gif

[vocal shard]

and you can configure it how you want it to be

very strict

or very free

[safe yacht]

Yeah but you need to edit the settings for how much you wanna limit it.

[slow olive]

@vocal shard is it effective?

[vocal shard]

yes

[safe yacht]

Yes

[slow olive]

Wonderful

[vocal shard]

only got crashed like 5 times since they put that as an option

[safe yacht]

They’re working on implementing it as a game option to make it more easily available to all

[slow olive]

The actual reason is people are waiting to see the actual launch and shit.

[safe yacht]

If VR is cheaper, it’s probably because of different materials and lesser trackers :p

[vocal shard]

Hey, quick question, is it possible to turn off that personal space bubble thing? Where people fade away when they get a certain distance to you. I put it all the way down but I think I would rather it not be there

[safe yacht]

My Oculus trackers are not amazing, thats for sure.

Yes

[slow olive]

My vive tracking is butter

[north axle]

@vocal shard Yeah, go to Settings and turn off Personal Bubble.

[vocal shard]

@vocal shard yes, just ucnheck personal space

Oh there is a checkbox? XD lemme go see

[tacit plank]

Personal space should be off by default

[vocal shard]

Mine is on by default

[slow olive]

I believe mine was on for sure.

I had to turn it off.

[safe yacht]

Ive gotten yelled at and blocked because I were in peoples personal space in this game. I really dont understand it.

[vocal shard]

it is on by default

which shouldnt be honestly

also the weird 3d locomotion bullshit too

never saw a more awkward and stupid way to move

[tacit plank]

So Pimax can be bought and has better fov and res than the vive, but I can't find a simple example of a VRChat player who is using it?

[safe yacht]

I have 3rd person on or I get sick. Same with comfort turning.

[north axle]

Yeah, but some people might find it useful during their first few weeks/days in VR.

[vocal shard]

never had any issue with motion sickness so i can't say anything here

[safe yacht]

Probably because its very new @tacit plank . I dunno!

[tacit plank]

I see

[vocal shard]

i even prefer comfort turning but i hear that it make people very sick

[safe yacht]

Ive gotten better with the motion sickness and such, but I also have dumb eye problems that make these problems a little worse for me.

[vocal shard]

Where is the checkbox at?

[north axle]

In settings.

[vocal shard]

its not IN vr steam where the bubble slider is

[safe yacht]

Turning comfort turning off makes for smoother movements, it looks better. But it makes me nauseous.

It’s ingame

[slow olive]

I've got a stomach of steel forged from starting long ago with PSVR

Oof

[safe yacht]

Yeah 4K VR seems very demanding.

[tacit plank]

They also have a 2*2K version for 400$

[vocal shard]

Ok is it out of VR in vrsteam settings, IN vr at VRsteam settings, or is it in VR chat

[safe yacht]

I dunno how the screen response time is on something like that either

[vocal shard]

Cause I cant find it lol

are you 99% blind ?

https://i.imgur.com/MPeP4xJ.jpg

Settings in VRChat since it's a VRChat option

[slow olive]

😂😂😂

[vocal shard]

I wasnt checking in VRchat since the slider for the bubble is out of VRchat

open the menu

So you are 99% an ass XD

go into System

and it's in comfort and safety

[slow olive]

Like I said, people are waiting for the official release lmao

I thought it was fuckin hilarious tbh haha

[vocal shard]

maybe if you would think for a little bit then i wouldnt be an ass

[tacit plank]

It's for sale on the website, so I thought it was out

[safe yacht]

That might be some ways away.

[slow olive]

Yeah, and it's smart to not be an early adopter for gen 2

Gotta wait to see how it plays out ya know

[safe yacht]

Yeah ive heard some bad things about the new Vive

[slow olive]

It's an over priced gen 1.5 launch at best

Emphasis on over priced.

Like hilariously over priced.

[tacit plank]

True, it's just, I haven't heard of a simple person who has it

[modern oyster]

can someone kill other graphics card or cpu over vrchat?

[polar jasper]

No they can not

[cold talon]

no

but they can steal your whole tower

[slow olive]

😳

Right from the top brass

[tacit plank]

They might be able to bluescreen you if you have old or shitty drivers, but that's it

[cold talon]

they just send their avatar thru the internet and yoink your pc

[vocal shard]

@modern oyster don't listen to them. They are just hiding the truth
they can steal your lungs throught internet nowadays
so using vrchat to steal your whole PC is easy

be careful when you play

[cold talon]

shhhh

dont make them panic

[tacit plank]

To destroy your hardware they need to hack into your computer

Which is really difficult

[slow olive]

Can they steal my VRChat so I don't waste time on it anymore.

[modern oyster]

because someone write to a friend of me that he will destory the graphics card next time

[slow olive]

Like the whole damn thing.

[cold talon]

hack ur pc and stop your cpu cooler

[tacit plank]

It's just a edgy 12 year old who managed to find a .exe file on a "hack forum" which gave him malware in the process

And who is now trying to feel powerful in VRChat by using it

[vocal shard]

script kiddies

[tacit plank]

You can hack a computer and overclock it, and it will stop working

My brother accidentally overclocked his ram by 400% some years ago, and it stopped booting

[cold talon]

overclucking

[tacit plank]

Until a friend of ours saved it

[cold talon]

but you need to do it thru the bios to enable the multipliers

[safe yacht]

Your bother accidentally fucked his own computer up, he didnt get hacked.

It aint gonna bloody happen unless someone gets remote access to your PC and that is very rare.

Indeed.

[polar jasper]

^ depends on the individual

[safe yacht]

Theres also overheating protection, where your PC will shut down to avoid damaging itself.

[ruby needle]

even with remote access i belive there is some secure connections to what programms can communicate with the efi

[cold talon]

ahh yes remember the days of pentium

[slow olive]

If a damn vehicle's computer stops the engine to prevent damage from heat, a PC absolutely does.

[cold talon]

when the cpu could reach 120C

those were the days

[safe yacht]

I also believe most new GPUs display heat warnings but Im not sure about that one.

[vocal shard]

ahhh the good 'ol day, just turn on your PC for free heat in the winter

[safe yacht]

Youll also get artifacts like crazy if your GPU is overheating.

[vocal shard]

pretty sure that most PC will now just shut down if the components are getting too hot

[cold talon]

oof still happes on laptops sometimes

[polar jasper]

Bluescreen for drivers and shutdown for overheat

[tacit plank]

True Svelsien

But you can still destroy your hardware by overclocking

You can mess with a lot of things, clock speed, power, etc. Not everything is monitored by the computer either

Yeah, you'd basically need to do it on purpose, but it's possible with remote access

Oh right

[cold talon]

i know there was someone who fried his pc like that but it was a combination of overclocking and bios error

and you cant remote acces the bios

[stone current]

why my sdk has a ton of amazon errors

[polar jasper]

What type of errors? If I guess correctly it could be because you have multiple files that are the same or amazon part of the sdk isn't imported correctly

[stone current]

it says a bunch of stuff from amazon lib isnt found

[polar jasper]

Reimport the SDK

[stone current]

i tried

[ruby needle]

did you delte the old one off the asset folder first tho?

[stone current]

ye

[polar jasper]

Close Unity, Delete the SDK and the meta file for the SDK. Redownload the SDK, Open unity and import it again

[carmine dew]

supposedly there is a script/anti crash for meshes and shaders?

[ruby needle]

there is modified client but dont bother about it since it will get you permanently crashed

aka banned

[carmine dew]

no not a modified client like there is something you can add to your models or something of the sorts

[ruby needle]

no

[carmine dew]

also how would having an anti crash get you banned if all people are tryna do is not be crashed by asses?

[ruby needle]

because it does not matter what the client does

any client modification is stricktly forbidden

and will get you banned quickly

[slow olive]

That is discouraging. Not the rule, the apparent inability to mitigate the crashing in the slightest.

[ruby needle]

the thing is

the client doesnt even provent all crashes

and also comes with drawbacks

[carmine dew]

exactly because there are types of crashes that cant be stopped

aka the ones that log you out

[ruby needle]

if it would be easy to "just prevent crashes" you can be sure it would have been in

[carmine dew]

or the ones that crash your client in general

[ruby needle]

without any other impact that is

[slow olive]

Never suggested it would be easy.

[ruby needle]

you sentence kind of implied it tho

[carmine dew]

I mean there could be a simply system addition in which you could make it so only like a specific amount of polys is seen

so in that case help potato computers and other people

[ruby needle]

"simple"

[slow olive]

Sorry that implication came across, I definitely didn't mean that.

[carmine dew]

I mean if they already made a script for it that I know like 40 of my friends have and many more people in the vrchat community

[slow olive]

I'm just simply saying the current state is definitely discouraging to some extent.

[carmine dew]

then they could simply apply to their actual game and make a work around for it

[slow olive]

It's fine to just log back on but come on.

[ruby needle]

there is the particle limiter

but not a polygon limiter

[carmine dew]

I meant particle if I said poly

but still the same thing applies they could do that, as a poly limiter would just break how other avatars look to you

also I kinda came up with an idea in how to keep banned people banned yet somehow when I brought it up to a mod he didnt understand what I was getting at

[ruby needle]

how to keep them banned or improve would be

dropping steam login

dont allow new users to create a login with steam accounts

[carmine dew]

well this is like a big improvment in my opinion

[ruby needle]

and give users that allready had one and use it still a pop up on every login

[carmine dew]

well what I was saying was what if they made a vr jail?

[ruby needle]

Public Ban?

[carmine dew]

no

basically

lets say someone breaks the rules and gets banned by like idk ip for a month

not only will it ip ban them but it will ban that account in general

[ruby needle]

???

[umbral reef]

Also yo brolts- What about animations? That stuff goes pass the poly limit

[carmine dew]

so if they manage to bypass the ip ban when they log into vrchat they cant do ANYTHING at all

[ruby needle]

thats not how it works

the accounts are banned you cant use them

[umbral reef]

And polys do not cause any extra lagg anyway past that 65/56? Not sure right now mark

[ruby needle]

they use new / others

[carmine dew]

well ive seen many people who get ip banned, come back in 5 minutes

same account

[lethal meteor]

unlikely

[ruby needle]

^

[umbral reef]

How would you know they got an ipban?

[ruby needle]

^

[carmine dew]

because this guy who I knew stole 125 avatars was banned and litteraly came back like 10 minutes later

[umbral reef]

Again- Why are you so sure its an ban

[carmine dew]

because he took a screenshot

[umbral reef]

Most people cnat even realize the diffrence between a vote kick or a host owner ban

[ruby needle]

sounds trustworthy ;D

[umbral reef]

And you dont think that was for an alt?

Anyway- looking for a banned vrc photo takes like 20 seconds anyway

[carmine dew]

omfg I dont think you all understand how basic this system of getting around the bans are

[umbral reef]

Ow we do

but we know how it properly works

[ruby needle]

it is easy thanks to steamm, yes

[carmine dew]

ive ran into too many people who I know have been banned that simple use a vpn or just change their hardware code or re install windows then magically come back

[umbral reef]

VRc doenst hardware ban (and its pointless to do that shit anyway)

[carmine dew]

yes they do

[umbral reef]

So an simple VPN or router reset indeed bypasses an ipban

Since when?

[ruby needle]

yeah they do

[carmine dew]

this guy got banned 4 years by hardware

[ruby needle]

Oclac pls

[umbral reef]

I dont get banned so

And last time i knew every pleb that just got an vpn could bypass banned stuff

[carmine dew]

thats what im saying the dude had a vpn and got past his ban

[umbral reef]

But eh- Even then- Its to clicks and bypassed

[carmine dew]

on the same account

[umbral reef]

Let me ask it first- Did he use an steam account or a VRC acc

If its steam big odds he just got an steam alt- changed names as that aint hard to do and can have the same and then logged in again with his hacked client what means he still had his stuff

[carmine dew]

so im saying if those people are really picky about keeping that said account then they could just make a special VR jail for them so that if they manage to get onto the same account again while banned they are trapped in a special VR home and they cant do anything or even use their own avatars

no it was a vrchat account

cause when he came back he had his same avatar

[umbral reef]

You--

Sigh

You cared to read all i wrote?

[carmine dew]

and no it wasnt a simple world avatar

[ruby needle]

im sorry but this all sounds fishy and stupid

[carmine dew]

and no it wasnt a steam account he had no tag

[ruby needle]

normally if you are banned you can not login, no matter if you change the ip

[umbral reef]

Tag doesnt always show above the head though--

Can often just show in the menu

[carmine dew]

I checked

and his name was short eitherway

so its not like it would just NOT show for some random reason

[ruby needle]

they can also spoof names afaik so,

[carmine dew]

non the less the idiot got banned by hardware for 4 years eitherway

[ruby needle]

[umbral reef]

A hardware ban is legit just 2 second work to bypass :notlikethis:

If you know what your doing that is

[carmine dew]

well noted he knew how to buy a vpn

[umbral reef]

Its not /as/ easy as bypassing an ipban

[carmine dew]

but not how to bypass a hardware ban

[umbral reef]

as often you can just reset your router for that stuff lmao

Well- Its a script kiddy so

But ima be drinking myself almost shitfaced as i gotta get up tomorrow morning

Take care

[carmine dew]

aight

noted, anyone that I met that was banned or did steal any characters I reported and blocked

like I litteraly had a kid on desktop walk up and ask how you can use an avatar someone else has

[tacit plank]

VRChat staff should tag the major worlds as non-avatar worlds

For example, everyone knows that the pub has no avatars in it

And then when a user switches avatar, it should check if he's in a world which surely has no avatars, and if he is, tag him as a potential scripter

Or replace the "call mod" with a "report user" button, where you can select things like "inappropriate avatar", "bad language", "hacker", etc. The outlog log file is huge, but it could send the users in the room and the past 2 minutes of chat log with duplicate lines removed

[inner cape]

Just get authorized 4Head

[pastel estuary]

but srsly

[inner cape]

No clue m8

But I'm glad ye got the joke

[pastel estuary]

Any other suggestions/jokes ?

[past vapor]

When that happened to me i just waited a while and tried again

[inner cape]

I think I have before, I just went to sleep

Worked on the next day

[formal canopy]

https://snag.gy/wgFWIM.jpg

why?

Help please

[modern sand]

Wrong channel

It also says what to do in the screenshot

[formal canopy]

but it used to not show this and now does

[raven silo]

@formal canopy remove the blueprint on the avatar model you got

just hit detach

it has a blueprint be use all ready

[formal canopy]

what is the blueprint?

[lethal meteor]

Ah, he's new

[raven silo]

@formal canopy it be were avatar description at if you cant find that best watch youtube video on it

it be on pipeline

[formal canopy]

got it thank you

"you cannot edit your VRchat data while the unity application is running"....

[lethal meteor]

ask in #avatars-2-general

[formal canopy]

ok

[raven silo]

@formal canopy need disable play button

reason say that

[desert tendon]

Hello, is there a way to change your username on VRC?

[modern sand]

By emailing the support, add your current username, the username you want (make sure it's not already taken) and use the email your account is linked to.

[desert tendon]

Okay, thanks!

[desert citrus]

Anyone having their avatar not loading in game but shows up in uploaded content?

[vocal shard]

So I heard there is a way to save avatars you find in worlds with a modded client? Is that true?

[ruby needle]

yes

[vocal shard]

How would I go about doing that. safely.

[ruby needle]

not at all

its against the rules and will get you banned

modified clients are absolute zero tolerance

[vocal shard]

rip

well guess I will wait for it to become a feature then

[ruby needle]

it wont

you can keep the last avatar which allready is a good thing

if you need more do your own or ask the creators

[timber hamlet]

Yep

[vital cradle]

Hello I have a question, does a modded SDK violets the rules of VRChat?

[timber hamlet]

Yes

[vocal shard]

Well do you guys have any sites you recommend for avatars?

[timber hamlet]

Moded anything is a no no

[vital cradle]

Ayt ok thx because I have a lots of polygones Xd

[ruby needle]

for completely finished there is only one i know and thats not allowed to be named here