vrchat-general-2

[mental verge]

Boi I need system in my life to roast my coffee probs be the best taste

[vocal shard]

[indigo fern]

System roasted coffee ™

[supple bison]

@median basalt The UAC doesn't show because if you just launch steam vr it will bypass the UAC and won't load the oculus environment. Hence saving system resources

If you tried launching the oculus app it will give a UAC prompt

Otherwise any steamvr game or the application itself will not load the oculus environment

[median basalt]

So how does that work? Does setting it on the shortcut also set it on the actual original executable?

Either way, thanks for the tip! That saves me like a GB of memory

[supple bison]

Just the desktop shortcut

[mental verge]

Can you smell what the Rokk is cooking

[supple bison]

Ffs

xD

[median basalt]

I don't get that one

[mental verge]

cos your cooked

[supple bison]

"Steamed"

Kek

[heavy timber]

Welp, just noticed that the madcat is completely wrecked.

same person left a mark on avatar testing

[thorn wigeon]

is it not possible to call mods into worlds anymore?

It gets annoying going into every other game and having people with laggy or purposely annoying avatars trolling and no one votes to kick them.

[umbral reef]

Can always report them via the #moderation-reports

Gets them always hit

[vocal shard]

laggy avatars

cant say i've seen one

[umbral reef]

Avatars that are badly optimized? What is that myth 👀

[vocal shard]

its pretty hard to do that lol

[umbral reef]

No?

[vocal shard]

yea

[umbral reef]

Doing it atleast shitty

is more then nothing

and doing it shitty is hella easy with things like cats

[vocal shard]

no i meant its hard to optimize them badly

lol

[umbral reef]

Oww

[vocal shard]

cause yea cats can p much do it for you

so

what is the next vrchat update

and when...?

[umbral reef]

No idea and no idea
they have not announced anything official so

[vocal shard]

ah ok

[supple bison]

never updates to unity 7

[thorn wigeon]

Laggy avatars as in avatars that were built to lag out and crash peoples games, usually with high poly counts and particle effects over the limit.

[vocal shard]

poly count really doesnt lag you

[umbral reef]

just makes thing load hella slow

[vocal shard]

it just takes longer to load

[umbral reef]

Ow well

hella slow is super subjective

[vocal shard]

^ nobody has the same internet lol

or pc

Real rip preformance is when you got mesh thats not merged and lotta materials

[cyan rapids]

is there a limit to how much glow shader i can use on a avatar?

[vocal shard]

Lemme hit you with that 6 different meshes with 6 unique materials and shaders on each mesh

lol

Dont b obnoxious with shaders pls

most people dont do that ronda

Most dont yeah

[cyan rapids]

because i have one that has bright glowing white fur, and it looks really bright https://image.prntscr.com/image/7MjTwIWJRdWGMFmu4bmayg.png

i dont want to abuse the shaders

[vocal shard]

I'm just saying that will hurt performance a lot more than a ton of polygons

Aparrantly Tupper has naked avatars 😎

smh no way bro

lots of people do so i wouldnt care really

🤔

As long as it's not blinding bright I don't think it's an issue?

There's no real limit, just take into consideration everybody else and how they're going to react whatever you do

[cyan rapids]

i think it might be a bit blinding, he's literally a snow white

http://prntscr.com/je69vm see, i might take it off the clothing

because it wouldnt seem neccessary on it

[split hinge]

is playmaker for worlds only or avatars too?

[umbral reef]

Playmaker only works on world

[vocal shard]

https://i.imgur.com/ZdO6ZBd.jpg

What’s in the new sdk? New poly limit?

Just wondering

[umbral reef]

You read the #announcements

[vocal shard]

What are you're guys thoughts on vrchat hakermans now being able to edit avatars I'm now editing my avatars to add a surprise for them to NUT to

My nudes

[inner cape]

Nice.

[vocal shard]

But it won't show on the avatar

I'm a guy as well

lewd

Put malware on your model

Lifehack

Hack the hackers 😎

HAKERMAN

[safe prism]

i mean

i can make a 20k poly avatar take 10 seconds to load

with one material

:x

[zinc solar]

Can I update 2 maps? i really don't like the 24hr limit restrictions for 1 map only per day 😭

[vocal shard]

Need to wait.

drink some tea

and enjoy your weekend

☕

[supple bison]

I'm 90% sure there's a botnet that's spreading from all the skids running "hacked" clients.

Last "hack" I decompiled it had SMTP credentials that was emailing the users credentials to a public email account

Omegalul

[vocal shard]

k

[cedar dune]

Hello @vocal shard if someone in vrchat say he wanna suicide how we can help?can someone help ?

My hugging room got visiter who crying and eating pills rn

He is from Malaysia and just 16 pls someone help him I’m not online

[vocal shard]

Tell him to do it with a headset on in VRchat

And then record it and post it on youtube

It'll get mad views bruh

[plucky panther]

rlly dude?

are you fucking serious

youtube will take it down in aseconds make sure he uses liveleak

@vocal shard

[vocal shard]

Kek

[errant vault]

+_-

[vocal shard]

Hey did he died malka

It's been 12 minutes now

I don't think that's the right attitude to have when there's something like that that's happening.

[plucky panther]

its just a troll when someone is suiciding in front of u u dont ask for help on discord

[vocal shard]

What's the right attitude to have then, bawling and advertising a hashtag for slacktivism

[errant vault]

Maybe they want attention, it could be real.

[plucky panther]

its not real

[errant vault]

most of the time

[vocal shard]

#stopvrsuicide #rkelly2020

Is that the right attitude to have

Do I need to have a Twitter to have the right attitude

[plucky panther]

even if it was real he came to the wrong place for help

[vocal shard]

What else should I be doing that makes it seem like I care about a soon-to-be Malaysian coroner's case

In a case that it is real, I recommend talking with them and try to calm them down. If you or anyone knows where they live, contact the suicide hotline in where they live and give out the necessary information that could help.

More virtue signaling?

Yes let's make an international call to police overseas

[plucky panther]

^

[lethal meteor]

Edgelords -_-

[errant vault]

Pro Hack +_-

[vocal shard]

"Help Officer Pambutu my friend Loc Phum Lai is threatening to kill himself on vrchat"

[plucky panther]

is it weird for me to say a roblox game has 4 times as many players online over vr chat

and thats 1 game

[vocal shard]

"He looks like an anime maid with huge cowtits"

"No this isn't a joke I'm being super cereal right now he's gonna kill himself"

[lethal meteor]

Grassman, how often do you watch gore?

[plucky panther]

i get sick

so i dont

[vocal shard]

I sit next to them in my home economics class all the time

[lethal meteor]

Because your mentality is off

[plucky panther]

unless is anime gore like house of corpse i can usually take it

corpse party*

[vocal shard]

#showingIcareaboutsuicide

#hashtagactivism

There, is that the right attitude to have

[lethal meteor]

It's a problem if people can't tell if you're trolling.

[vocal shard]

Hashtag slacktivism is worse than whatever I'm doing

[lethal meteor]

Just for a future heads up

[vocal shard]

I get a laugh out of it, a smile on my face

Don't care, I win

[plucky panther]

tbh grass is just keeping it real

he is kinda right

what happens to him isnt our fault

[calm atlas]

Searching someone to help with avatars.

[vocal shard]

Summon Tupper

edgy

[subtle imp]

af

[vocal shard]

hoho suicide get it xd im so funny

suicide jokes arent funny anymore lol

i mean i still dont give a shit if someone says they'll kill themselves on the internet

but the humor ran dry

[torn cape]

haha le my life is so miserable xD depression!

[tacit plank]

It was never funny to me

[thin sandal]

What are the new camera updates

[vocal shard]

its 3rd person camera @thin sandal

VR users only unless u make it on your own

[thin sandal]

Wasn't that already in the game from like a week ago @vocal shard

I see some people acting like something new was added today or yesterday 🤔 maybe I'm just tired

[vocal shard]

lol

[hollow grove]

So do the devs not beta test their patches before unleashing them to ravage the live versions

I feel like it is common practice to save a backup and test before overwriting

[raven silo]

@hollow grove well cant catch every bug if you find one just post them in canny

so they spot next test better

[vocal shard]

people keep getting unblocked/unmuted after like 20 minutes. what do

[kindred glacier]

why does my vrchat always crash when exiting

[raven silo]

@vocal shard oh them feature 50/50 chance be bug after other patch

[thin sandal]

Issue is we give them feedback and they push dumb shit anyway

[raven silo]

best dont hang out public world to much

them were troll live

[vocal shard]

[indigo fern]

🤔

[copper horizon]

https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGlkgKoADYydkYM/giphy.gif

[sage pewter]

When did Shader Forge become free?

[polar jasper]

About a week ago

[lethal meteor]

Rip support and my 90 dollars

Faaaaaaak

Root motion better not bail

[sage pewter]

Is root motion an upcoming feature in a new version of unity?

[lethal meteor]

Don't know

But it's in asset store

Will eat your wallet in the process though

[sage pewter]

I meant that Shader Forge probably is free now because Unity does or will soon have a similar feature.

[shy nest]

shader forge is free? yoink

[indigo fern]

Ye, they stopped development for it

[desert escarp]

my oculus has been crashing a lot recently

is it some sort of power allocation feature? like the pc shuts off USBs to prevent overheating?

and if so why is it recently happening more with vrchat when it never did before?

[tacit plank]

I'm not sure why it happens, but you can stop USBs from turning off in Windows device settings

[desert escarp]

how?

also how to stop my oculus from constantly crashing

[south viper]

what's this I hear about avatars with portals on them

some new tool user thing?

[desert escarp]

idk but windows 10 control panel is like using kid gloves

so @tacit plank how exactly am i supposed to adjust power settings

[tacit plank]

I will find it two secs

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-prevent-windows-10-turning-usb-devices I think this will work. I haven't actually done it on win10 before myself

[desert escarp]

ty

this will stop my oculus from crashing in games?

[shy nest]

that will prevent windows 10 turning off usb devices

[south viper]

I'm surprised that this is a thing. it must depend on the motherboard too or something

the only time I have USB devices turn off is when the computer goes to sleep

[terse coral]

[hollow grove]

shader forge is free because unity basically made their own native shader forge

xD

[safe prism]

and the lead dev of shader forge made shader graph

[spring atlas]

Are there any RPers here?
I'm wondering if most of you use separate accounts for RP and personal playtime, or if you generally use a single account for both.

Just a random inquiry.

[mental verge]

pretty sure everyone just uses there main account so they dont have to double upload avatars

[vocal shard]

ud be surprised

[inner cape]

Some have multiple for different characters.

[hollow grove]

yeah some have accounts that they load their annoying/crasher avatars on so when it gets banned they still have their main

kind of an easy way around the whole merit system

but you know

[inner cape]

That's not what I meant. 🤔

[hollow grove]

yeah but that is what people do

[vocal shard]

we werent even talking about that

[inner cape]

Staph turning every topic into a hacker rant.

[vocal shard]

[hollow grove]

1. I don't
2. I didn't
3. I suppose that must be on your mind as well

[inner cape]

[vocal shard]

1. you just did
2. no not really

[hollow grove]

how is that a rant

[vocal shard]

wasnt a rant but you brought it up out of nowhere

[hollow grove]

okay then

I guess I didn't rant then

now did I

[vocal shard]

the point

your head

[hollow grove]

-_-

[vocal shard]

[hollow grove]

context

you

it all applies

and it answered the question and beyond

people split their acitivies on different accounts

[vocal shard]

you completely removed the context from the current subject and changed it to something else

[hollow grove]

even nefarious ones

[vocal shard]

you fuckin sperg

[hollow grove]

cry

[inner cape]

Feels kinda weird being on one side with Acorn. I always thought I'm hated.

[vocal shard]

dont worry ghost

[hollow grove]

and blocked

[vocal shard]

you're still retarde

Reminder that ERPing as a girl can make you 100/hr

[inner cape]

[hollow grove]

wat

why do you.... nevermind

[vocal shard]

Listen

bc he big stronk mastermind compared to you rigg, he knows how to make the moneys

With a voice changer

[hollow grove]

😐

[vocal shard]

Voice training

[hollow grove]

highly paid trap I spose

[vocal shard]

And a set of photos from 2004 from early camwhores

[inner cape]

What if I told you that images are back to the main hub, Acorn?

[vocal shard]

And full body tracking

then id rejoin but i already know they arent

I am the first VR prostitute

lol

[inner cape]

They actually are. I just opened them today.

[vocal shard]

x) doubt

[inner cape]

Well, it's yesterday more like.

Nearly 5 am

[vocal shard]

Nope, it's true

i was in a call with advert yesterday and when he shared screen it was disabled lol

I trained my voice so that the voice changer is more believable

[inner cape]

🤔

[vocal shard]

I have full body tracking and lewd models

grass we get it

ur a trap

in vr

For...lewd

I watched hours of romcom, chick flicks, and anime to get the girl-next-door persona natural

k

[inner cape]

You're attention whoring even when not pretending. Yare yare...

[vocal shard]

Sigh Yare yare indeed

[inner cape]

Make me sleep.

I really need to go.

[vocal shard]

Hmm... Let's see... Just go to a fully recorded 2 hour Livestream and sleep to that, it's effective

melatonin

[inner cape]

Not doing any of that.

[vocal shard]

beat your dick

[inner cape]

Don't have one.

[vocal shard]

That'll keep them more awake xD

[inner cape]

[vocal shard]

[inner cape]

I'm too tired to move anything apart from my finger that I type with.

And also blinking.

[vocal shard]

Oh, then remove the bright blue light right in front of you, since you cant move your body I cannot suggest to darken your room by blocking other light sources

what phone u got @inner cape

it should have a blue light filter if its android

[inner cape]

Motorolla G - 1st gen 2013

[vocal shard]

2013

[inner cape]

Yep.

[vocal shard]

bitch get a new phone

Developers?

@vocal shard xD

[inner cape]

I spent all me money on VR.

Me be a hobo now.

[vocal shard]

just buy cheap android phone from china

lol

theyre like $300 super cheap

[inner cape]

Don't want that.

[vocal shard]

@vocal shard I literally have a Windows phone as a gift and I don't complain

ok?

arent those relatively new tho

@vocal shard you can get an android for 50€ here

[inner cape]

I got less than £50 on me rn, I'm good with what I have.

[vocal shard]

i didnt day bad android phone helton

say*

i said cheap

I bought one and it lasted 2 and a half years until my sibling broke it out of ragequiting from a game

[inner cape]

4:59
Perfect number to go shleep.

[vocal shard]

And it was a tablet...

[inner cape]

Nighto.

[vocal shard]

See ya!

@vocal shard Also windows phones only have 3 game unique to them and other wise they are kind of useless unless you plug it up a PC

And they update constantly

cant u just download games lol

[regal sedge]

hey so.... I dunno if this is the place to ask or is allowed, but are there any avatar worlds with a mermaid avatar? I've got a friend looking for one, and I haven't been able to find one yet

[vocal shard]

No, I tried many times before, they are not compatible with the phone, it only accepts ports from it's own shop, and you cannot get anything from Google play store and the appstore, you cannot even use Aptoide on it...

[sleek bone]

What’s this game’s biggest hindrance of why it doesn’t have workshop support

[ruby needle]

cus workshop doesn't work that way.
the steam workshop is basically a mod manager kinda?

but that wont help much with models that have to be distributed to the vrc servers.

[rough pulsar]

It would tie vrchat to steam and they don't want that.
For example, vrchat used to be distributed via standalone exe, steam and on oculus home.

[ruby needle]

even if you tie it to steam, the workshop doesn't really have any function for sharing content considering how this game works doesn't it

one thing that could maybe be done a lot further down the line would be a vatar brower or something where you can allow public avatars to be listed and users can pick

[vocal shard]

@rough pulsar shouldn't you be asleep?

[rough pulsar]

I should, but I'm not
yet

[ruby needle]

you can sleep enogh once you are dead

[vocal shard]

Ah, eternal sleep 😃

@ruby needle why would the workshop be needed if vrchat can put freely usable characters to choose from? Plus getting any from the internet?

[ruby needle]

i am not the one who is pro workshop

^^

[vocal shard]

Sorry xD mistook you for @sleek bone

[ruby needle]

Am also looking very forward to the oculus home version again

[ashen hatch]

VRChat needs better support for the MR controllers

[ruby needle]

WMR vor VRC

[sleek bone]

Workshop function means avatars in your avatars list

So, so you won’t need frikin pedestal

[ruby needle]

and exactly that is how the steam workshop doesnt work 😄

they would need their own platform

and it would also require different settings because some artists dont want you to just click and use

[sleek bone]

Then don’t submit to the workshop

Simple

There are people who just want to put stuff in the workshop

[ruby needle]

why do i have 2L Market place flashbacks just now?

[gloomy atlas]

I just saw that "trust system" article

It's gonna kill vrchat in a matter of days.

[ruby needle]

it's not

it's been active since a few days and it doesn't seem dead

!online

[floral flax]

There are 7828 users in VRChat currently

[ruby needle]

[gloomy atlas]

I mean when this system would get implemented.

[ruby needle]

but it allready is

a new account cant directly upload

[gloomy atlas]

It wasn't

let me check my email tho..

Nope, didn't get any email saying that this system was implemented

[ruby needle]

make a new account

try to upload something

you'll get a nice error saying you need to spend more time in game

[gloomy atlas]

And it is said that users will get a notification letter saying that this system is on together with their account's access info

[ruby needle]

this is only for new users i belive

all current users have been given access when it was implemented

example form #avatars-2-general

https://image.prntscr.com/image/P-OgKFD_S9WLCBOhKOU-hg.png

[gloomy atlas]

oh wait-

so it was implemented already

[ruby needle]

thats what i said... yes

[gloomy atlas]

just re-checked #announcements

why i didn't get any email letter stating that this system is live now? -_-

[ruby needle]

why should you? if any current user is default accepted?

(unless bug's / errors)

[vocal shard]

Honestly what they need to do is fix the damn vote system. I almost always see it used not to boot bad players. But to boot people because "I dun like them" or "I hate that fandom!" or "Their microphone is bad! How dare they not have a 100$ one like me!" "How dare they be AFK". I could go on and on. And then when someone that is being bad comes along it's like nobody cares. Honestly reminding me a-lot of another virtual social media app I'm not naming.......which uses a different "chat moderation" system that's not as anarchistic but comes close. Just my opinion from experience so far these past.......months? I'm not good with time.

[ruby needle]

what can they fix on that if its purely the players fault?

[gloomy atlas]

i know people that got booted out of a world just for showing Reg's incinerator (character from Made in Abyss)

[ruby needle]

what

the game? unity?

see client issues in #vrchat-support

[gloomy atlas]

there also should be a crash log

[ruby needle]

!outputlog

[floral flax]

You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt

[ruby needle]

they should really change that url to a propper variable

%AppData%\..\LocalLow\VRChat for example

[vocal shard]

I don't know but it's quite annoying. lol Not sure what the problem with that is? I noticed it too. After the update that allows unlimited particles. I have to often turn on block avatars or I get massive lag and or crash even. Usually with a memory access error. Both on a system with 4GB and one with 6GB ram. lol

[ruby needle]

that... is not a lot off ram

[vocal shard]

Eh don't exactly have money. And it was working perfectly fine until that update. heh Plus I'm not sure something like this should need that much, at least not in desktop mode and 800 or 900p.

[ruby needle]

the thing with this game even if it doesnt look visually taxing

it is user based content

and in this case a lot of unknown and heavily unoptimized user made content

but yes, last update made performance bad in some cases. specifically notable on maps with mirrors if im not wrong

new package?

[vocal shard]

Ah true. heh ? ouch

[ruby needle]

you sure you did the right guide? Rainatello

did you do the manual methode to?

[vocal shard]

Can i talk to a mod please?

[devout island]

what for

[vocal shard]

A temp ban for "attempting to crash people"

[devout island]

you can report a person by looking at the guidelines in #moderation-reports

[vocal shard]

No for me.

I got a temp ban for "attempting to crash people"

[ruby needle]

send a mail to them

[vocal shard]

Just send one to their email?

[devout island]

it's [e-mail]

[vocal shard]

Thanks

[devout island]

you should probably restart your pc then

[ruby needle]

you should have done that allready but yes 😄

[devout island]

vrchat or how i learned to stop worrying and love the social interaction

[ruby needle]

[devout island]

except when there are weirdos

[ruby needle]

[devout island]

i wonder why that emote works here but not in public

[ruby needle]

because sub emojis are enabled here and in radom talk

not in the other channels tho

[devout island]

hmm makes sense

gotta go, good night

[lilac swan]

Before there were no custom emoji at all, but my nagging paid off

[ruby needle]

[indigo fern]

That's our Zarni

[lilac swan]

Obviously I can't take all the credit, far from. There are a few unsung heroes among us

And so #general-media and eventually #vrchat-general-2 got custom emoji

[ruby needle]

why only those and not the others (except public)

i think at least the language specific channels would also benefit from it as its basically a language specific generall chat

[lilac swan]

My personal theory is the "higher ups" wants to keep the discord as clean as possible, and custom emoji is a risk to that because you can make literally anything into a emoji

But who knows

[ruby needle]

i kinda blame discord a bit too

you should be able to alow subscription emojis (moderated by twitch) and nitro (bascially everything from everywhere)

separately

[lilac swan]

You still can't quote people in discord like you could with skype

Atleast not without a plugin

[vocal shard]

What did i miss over here (O_0)?

[lilac swan]

Bugs me a bit

[plush iris]

[mental verge]

[mellow lava]

anyone else crashing on running the game?

[neon edge]

so i dont know what to do my vr chat crashes right at start up adn just says oops

[umbral reef]

#vrchat-support ?

Tried the stuff there

[neon edge]

nope

didnt work

[kindred glacier]

srsly

why is kick = 1 hour ban

[vocal shard]

that's vote kick only tho, right?

24h

ing

seemingly

just afk a bit on the side over the weekend in the house world thingy

ez

[umbral reef]

Cygann your almost tech support sticker worthy

[vocal shard]

[fair magnet]

My friends, i have happened upon the holy grail
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/416228917469249536/441245410657435668/20180502102705_1.jpg

[vocal shard]

💦 💦 💦 @fair magnet💦 💦 💦

Arms are sweaty

The arms?

Trying to hold them back cuz nofap

Oh snap

[umbral reef]

[vocal shard]

Trying to break my record

11 or so years?

Actually it's more like 6 years, but I'm talking about after the organs develop

D:

Actually, not that I think about it... It's only 4 years😱 (O_0)

I'm curious but also too scared to ask

[kindred glacier]

such a dick move when you join a friend and get like immediatly kicked even tough u didnt do anything

[vocal shard]

@vocal shard how did I know at such a young age 😖 ?

How do you even remember

[trail valve]

What did i miss

[vocal shard]

My memory is a steel trap

But not to the point that I can remember everything I've done

Do you at least benefit of it too?

No, just felt painful and I was confused...

I mean your memory in general, not said memory^^..

Yes

Double edged sword

Just another thing I've got to live with...

And FireEmber says she is truly open xD

[feral garden]

Deleted the cache data of VRCHAT but now every map takes more than 2 hours to load, reinstalled and still the same, what can I do now? 😦

[umbral reef]

Not have dailup internet?

[feral garden]

300mpbs up and down, working fine

[umbral reef]

Well cache only effects the data you loaded before...
It saves that data and nothing else really

so its or your ISP bullshitting you or someone else draining a lot of internet

or something else

[feral garden]

Not about my internet connection, just did a few test, should be another thing D:

[inner cape]

Might be from the server's side.

Or your drive.

[vocal shard]

Does it for me sometimes, I just restart my pc then back to normal, have crappy internet

[umbral reef]

Or the worlds you are joining

[inner cape]

It just happens randomly out of the blue sometimes.

[vocal shard]

I never delete the cache, runs perfectly fine on desktop mode for me, just sometimes it loads slow when going to different world, happens randomly but no biggy

[umbral reef]

Can be windows doing windows things

Or other programs being cunts

[vocal shard]

Which I have VR, ran awesome till new update, hate it when your pc updating and ppl saying, your lagging, we can’t hear you lol

[umbral reef]

Well

Best tip for that

is swap your DNS to 1.1.1.1

Its the cloudfare DNS

Often is faster

[vocal shard]

My pc still new, well built, just my internet connection just slow, only able to get the service I’m on at my area sadly which is expensive which need to clean up my pc which usually runs fine after that which I do everyday

[umbral reef]

Ayy who does not enjoy having one single ISP that cna dick you over then

But swapping the DNS to couldfares or googles is always a smart idea
I doubt that if you have one ISP that they can handle the requests faster then those two

[inner cape]

@umbral reef I was about to claim someone yesteday but I found out they have someone. My luck is truly non-existent.

[umbral reef]

Dam man

You maybe should just steal them away

[vocal shard]

go mr still yo girl style lol

[rare fox]

!cleancache

[floral flax]

You can clean cache by deleting the vrchat folder within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat

[inner cape]

I don't want to steal.

[umbral reef]

Well its not really stealing after you did it

As they are your then

And you cant steal your own stuff

[vocal shard]

@umbral reef so... Does that go the same for fanart?

[umbral reef]

nah

[vocal shard]

Dang it xD

[inner cape]

I want a person that would actually want to stay with me. It's no fun if you just steal them.

Now that I said that, me claiming people sounds hypocritical.

[umbral reef]

Naaahh

[vocal shard]

Am I the only one who dislikes the new Vrchat trust system

[umbral reef]

Do you know how it properly works?

[vocal shard]

Yea

I just got on and it says Ive lost access to creation due to abuse

I didnt do anything bad

WHat do I have to do to fix it

[umbral reef]

You never did anything bad in the past though?

And if no just contact support...

[vocal shard]

My friend kicked me as a joke a couple times

Is there any way to upload models again

Or do I have to contact

[umbral reef]

Well contact them

Its the easier war

way*

[vocal shard]

Is there another

Like playing for a certain amount of time

[umbral reef]

That should be (so far we properly know) the only factor be that is within the trust system

[vocal shard]

ok

[umbral reef]

unless you get like banned and stuff. Then id presume you would be denied of aces also

Your asking that as in who wants to play with you right now or if VRC is broken also for others

[vocal shard]

So does anyone know how long you have to play in order to get access to avatar creation?

[jaunty apex]

24h

[tacit plank]

Any idea why somebody would crash on FBT but not with regular VR?

[vocal shard]

!output

Umm... Why did I crash?

[simple ibex]

Anyone know a fix for headset turning black randomly for a few seconds?

[bright widget]

I dont know where to talk about that but I wonder if my avatars are safe to not be edited by other vrchat users.

[vocal shard]

[opaque hawk]

If I see any avatar worlds with my avatars then I know it’s stolen (except for a few) my avatars are very unique so it’s a dead giveaway

[raven silo]

if use 3d model from devianart mostly like see them again other avatar worlds.

[quiet prawn]

Conkz, headset turning black randomly, that could be a cable issue, does it happen out of VRC?

[vocal shard]

Are you on a laptop Conkz?

@simple ibex

[simple ibex]

I think it might be a cable issue, because it just started happening last night. My cable is pretty tangled up

I just wanted to make sure before i buy a new cable

[vocal shard]

So not a laptop I’m guessing

straighten it out lol

jeeze

[stable aurora]

game seems to crash and freeze a lot more since this last home update :s

[vocal shard]

Is it safe to go to public worlds ? I heard there was a hacker breaking people’s computer ?

[umbral reef]

Breaking computers?
Well that part is as true as me claiming im the ruler of the world

[stable aurora]

do you as the ruler of the world plan to break computers

[vocal shard]

No but I do

🤔

[umbral reef]

But there are people (cant really call them hackers as they did not make the programs) that can steal avatars or crash users
Both groups can be reported and get them out of the game

@stable aurora I plan to go back to the stone age

[vocal shard]

I used to play a game where hackers could BSOD your pc

[high yacht]

GPU Based shaders can crash your GPU

Which can in turn cause a BSOD

[vocal shard]

yea but it wont break it lol

[high yacht]

In my testing, yes it can

[vocal shard]

X) doubt

[high yacht]

ok kid

[vocal shard]

😤

[umbral reef]

An BSoD can only happen on the GPU side if it has a faulty connection or the product itself is sheit

[high yacht]

Graphics drivers crashing can cause an improper mem read on some AMD cards

[vocal shard]

in short buy a better gpu

[high yacht]

Namely 4xx and 5xx cards

Which are current gen

[ruby needle]

the driver can cause BSOD's too @umbral reef

[high yacht]

Same set of issues that cause cubeds shader not to work on polaris GPUS

[umbral reef]

Was a well known problem with the cards...
That often happened with other things also so... But that does fall under the sheit product 👀

[vocal shard]

POLARIS GPUS

LOL

WHAT IS THIS, 2003?

[high yacht]

@vocal shard https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/polaris ?

this is now

[vocal shard]

[high yacht]

this is current

[vocal shard]

Arent Polaris shitty gpus for laptops

[high yacht]

No

Its AMDs current desktop lineup

Pascal and Polaris

Nvidia and AMD

[vocal shard]

Then how come I never hear of it

[high yacht]

Because you dont research the things you talk about

[vocal shard]

Because you dont need to if you've experienced them

[high yacht]

what

[vocal shard]

[high yacht]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Polaris+GPUs

Cool and good

Googling is ez

[ruby needle]

what is this "Google" everyone is talking about all the time

[high yacht]

I think its an STD

Ill bing it

[vocal shard]

[high yacht]

👍

[vocal shard]

they still ass

[opaque hawk]

I wish people wouldn’t jump on one another because someone asks a question here. It’s toxic and makes the people doing the jumping looks like a real jerk. (Edited for language)

[vocal shard]

no u

[opaque hawk]

Lol

But seriously though it’s been happening a lot lately. “How do I do x?” “Why didn’t you google it stupid?”

[umbral reef]

Well, to be fair...
We live in an age where everything can be googled and if it can not people ask the questions so vague its not worth helping really

[vocal shard]

How do I do a social

grow brane

How

[opaque hawk]

Which actually filters back, you need a small amount of knowledge to google something. If you don’t know the right words to google, you don’t get the answers you need

[umbral reef]

I cant deny that but still
Google has been learning for years to get uneducated hit words and link them up with proper hit words

[vocal shard]

How do google

Beep boop

[umbral reef]

And most of the things that do get asked within this server aslong as its not in the avatar channels

Can be found with no knowledge

[vocal shard]

People are lazy

[opaque hawk]

Once google can read minds we are systematically screwed and golden

[umbral reef]

That is not the point of what i said though

Not even close

[vocal shard]

just woke up to a trust system that doesnt trust us

vrchat, are you ok?

Untrustworthy

Begone

[umbral reef]

As in you got the msg that said your not ready?
If so did you play for 24H ingame yet (with an new acc) or have you been banned yet? If no to both just email support and get the allowance

[vocal shard]

"As an aside, VRChat staff and developers will not delve into the details of how any of the Trust systems work to any user. Development of the Trust systems will be an ongoing effort so that we can make VRChat a better place for all of our users."

You won’t play our game for 24 hrs? No avatars for you

im ok and have access, but having a system that doesnt trust yet based on trust feels off to me

been playing since 2017

[umbral reef]

You do know almost all games have an system like this?

Or well multi player games

An perfect example is CS;GO

[patent bridge]

:/¨

[umbral reef]

Also if the system trusted every new acc from the get go its as useless as it can be on a free to play game...

[vocal shard]

like its in the name, you are building systems that work on user to developer confidence and trust, yet you are refusing to trust the users with the properties of those systems?

[umbral reef]

Give me an example of what an user can do if they know how a system works

The answer im looking for is abusing it...

And i cant deny im an perfect example of someone who would do it myself..
I am one of those gamers that takes the fun out of games to grind.... 👀
Or that i try to break all new robot or tech stuff i get in my hands at school

[vocal shard]

@umbral reef cs:go's system only works bc its not a social platform, and mostly only cheaters get reported

[umbral reef]

The system works perfect though

[polar jasper]

Everything has flaws...

[opaque hawk]

Sorry oclac that was referring to your post about google learning. Anyway it’s a good point to end that conversation. Good discussion

[vocal shard]

however VRChat is full of fucking idiots who dont know the difference between a joke and an insult

[umbral reef]

Its not something that can be done within VRC because of its non competitive nature

Like with the trust system
So far we know you need 24H of playtime
The people that they want to keep out with this system know how to work with that rule and make it less bad

[vocal shard]

or people who straight up just block/kick you for no good reason

if any of that is tied up into the trust system

then it wont work

[umbral reef]

And unless the developers are plain dumb
They wont and dont

[vocal shard]

plenty of regular, normal players will get into trouble for no reason

[umbral reef]

or havent more

[vocal shard]

just gonna say this

[umbral reef]

Like i totally get the system sucks hard for new users

and it kinda pushes them towards using the avatar worlds only

Or other means....

[vocal shard]

if they keep us in the dark about more and more of the system

you're gonna be hearing a lot about users being banned for unknown reasons

which is what their market is aimed towards oclac

new players

[umbral reef]

But at the same time, unless people are willingly to accept any other system (What so far is a no)

It wont help

[vocal shard]

which is already a problem

[umbral reef]

Acorn id say keeping there current playerbase active and running is just as important

No power users means no content for new users

[vocal shard]

well yes, but if this system is put into place it could just kill growth

[umbral reef]

It is already in place.. the current state is good enough

[vocal shard]

which is what you want in a game that is focused around social aspects

[umbral reef]

So far we know there is only an time gate within the system

And maybe actions after a ban/report

[ruby needle]

but with an aditional algorithm not jsut pure input!

which a lot yell "oh no, fun reports will cause me to loose it"

the dev's arent that stupid

[umbral reef]

Well fpaul peeps think they are

[ruby needle]

or just want to rant over it anyway

like "oh no it will kill the game"
yes... because the first thing i wanna do when i start with this game is make a completely custom avatar?

[vocal shard]

Seems like vrchat is going through another phase...

[ruby needle]

that might be a tiny TINY percentage of persons 😄

[vocal shard]

i just dont want the trust system to be implemented into some shitty form

thats going to get abused

[umbral reef]

Bruh

You know and have been told agian by me even

that its already live in a form

[vocal shard]

truthfully.

they messed up by even mentioning any of this to begin with.

I know

[umbral reef]

and why would they edit it to be something worse?

[vocal shard]

@vocal shard everything gets exploited these days...

[umbral reef]

Rin

They didnt mention it

[opaque hawk]

Am I in the minority that that’s exactly why I started playing vr chat? To make custom avatars and be them.

[umbral reef]

and peeps where unhappy

[vocal shard]

people get blocked ingame for ridiculous reasons

I already know it's been implemented, i just dont want it to be shit

groups can weaponize it and use it against others

[umbral reef]

That

is

why

they ahve not used that

[vocal shard]

used what

[umbral reef]

You guys are legit talking about a fairy tail and claiming it to be fiction...

[ruby needle]

that is exactly the problem...

[umbral reef]

The trust system that takes blocks and kicks with its counting

[vocal shard]

What? the fact that people already mass report, kick/block for no good reason?

[umbral reef]

There is no report of that
No information is known with that
Im kinda leaning towards even daring to say that it has been tested

[vocal shard]

If you have a bunch of false kicks and shit then you can get in trouble for it

[ruby needle]

who said this

[umbral reef]

And reports ingame do jack shit really

[ruby needle]

where is your source

[umbral reef]

Kicking only gives false claims

[vocal shard]

People have said it's happened to them tons of times oclac

[ruby needle]

ther is NOTHING know for how it works except that there is a 24h timelimit for the first aproveal

[vocal shard]

Lol

[umbral reef]

I trust those people as much as i trust my dog to not steal my food if its on the floor

[vocal shard]

put your food on the floor and see what your dog does.

[umbral reef]

Same that someone claimed the system worked in the way you guys think
What was the clue?
They where using a fucking steam account

[mellow oyster]

Is the load of avatars and worlds that can be fatal going to me? I go the internet 300mb symmetric, can it be for the last update?

[vocal shard]

Getting off topic, how do you use customs here?!?!

use wat

[umbral reef]

Fatal in what sense...

[vocal shard]

The custom emojis

[ruby needle]

customs only work with nitro or sub emojis if you are subbed on twitch and that person parneted and you in that persons discord @vocal shard

[vocal shard]

Nitro.jpg

Oh...

[indigo fern]

We gotta pay money to be cool

[umbral reef]

Nitro in 2K18

[hasty wedge]

or use betterdiscord ChinoThink

[indigo fern]

Discord was indeed a mistake

[vocal shard]

BetterDiscord only shows your emotes to other people who have it

lol

[ruby needle]

that peopel without betterdiscord cant see @hasty wedge

[hasty wedge]

BACK IN MY DAY EVERYONE HAD BETTERDISCORD BUT NOW PPL USE NITRO ONLY

[ruby needle]

everyone?

also mobile users?

[vocal shard]

Yea bc BD had that big fiasco with passwords getting leaked

[hasty wedge]

almost everyone

[umbral reef]

Yea

But acorn

unffact

that was pure bullshit

[hasty wedge]

it was a hoax from discord to get ppl to buy nitro

change my mind

[indigo fern]

Speaking of shit, guess what I'm about to do

[vocal shard]

It wasn't bullshit, there was an addon that loads of people had and it literally just grabbed your password

[umbral reef]

Yea but that addon was not supported by BD
It could run as a stand alone
It was never on any BD website, share page, forum or ect

[ruby needle]

oh well if its an addond withing that addond thats not really BD's fault isnt it

[umbral reef]

and the guy that made it was banned from uploading any BD content even...

[vocal shard]

And the hoax that got people to buy Nitro was the removal of BTTV

"hoax"

lol

[umbral reef]

So there is a fact somewhere in there
But not in the way they claimed it to be at all

[vocal shard]

Ironically, the person who owned BTTV and then shut it down works at discord

[umbral reef]

Its like me saying i can hack the NSA
But i first direct aces to there computers ok

[vocal shard]

And then right after that they made it nitro only for people

until the GW thing came around

but its only like 5-6 global emotes per server now

and you have to pay for that monthly too

[ruby needle]

GW thing?

[vocal shard]

If you see emotes in servers you have with the "GW" before its names those are emotes that the server owner pays for to be global

Like

[umbral reef]

Well there is a bug within that system though for the first group using that 👀

Was a once pay, never renew

But keep the stuff

[ruby needle]

Hammer & Chisel gotta make some money

[vocal shard]

they already do lol

they pull in lots of money for nitro

[ruby needle]

yes, now

[vocal shard]

they initially got a lot too

bc nobody minded supporting them

even though i have it im still iffy on it bc the whole thing with global emotes was super shady and dickhead thing to do on their part

and before nitro was even a thing you could already have gif profile pics on discord

u just had to make sure to crop them yourself

[earnest harbor]

global emotes?

[umbral reef]

Well things like that is how they lured in there original user base...

Really good and fun thing

Then throw a paywall up for them and TADA

[earnest harbor]

you can use server specific..

[umbral reef]

Modern tech company

[hasty wedge]

discord before nitro 👌

[vocal shard]

yea someone could prob sue discord for making free features paid

or throw up some sort of lawsuit

[earnest harbor]

XD

[umbral reef]

Like that works lmao

They just point at there ToS

[earnest harbor]

you really are daft

[vocal shard]

Since everyone here is nagging like angry wives I think I'll take your minds off the conversation for 2 minutes to help a fellow Vrchat player out:"Hey guys. I'm writing thesis diploma related to video games. Could you please help me and fill this 2mintues survey: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/LF8YKWH Thank you so much <3" by @hollow forge

[umbral reef]

Bleed you dry with depth and laugh

[vocal shard]

people have sued for stupid stuff before

[earnest harbor]

they don't let me use emotes from my own serve rin other servers i want compensation for it!

[umbral reef]

And not won

[vocal shard]

gold thats not what happened lmao

It's not mine someone elses

[earnest harbor]

[vocal shard]

People with large enough followings on twitch used to be able to have like

All the emotes in their server

which is like 30+ iirc?

be global

which means you use em anywhere

[earnest harbor]

no

[vocal shard]

Then the guy who runs it, who WORKS at discord shut it down for no reason

[earnest harbor]

you couldn't

[vocal shard]

Yes you could lmao

[earnest harbor]

no

[umbral reef]

Conflict of intrest

[vocal shard]

Yes?

[earnest harbor]

it was a feature you could enable

and most didn't

[umbral reef]

He cant own/host a product while working there

[vocal shard]

yes it was a feature you could enable, but only if you had enough twitch followerd

And there were tons of servers that had it

prob one of the biggest being the random server

[earnest harbor]

it wasn't limited to just twitch servers

and again, most servers kept their emotes private

[vocal shard]

The random server wasn't a twitch server

well, isnt

[earnest harbor]

but whining and bitching that you can't use emotes on other servers because paywall

[vocal shard]

im not in there antmore

Gold

The point is going completely over your head

the point is before there was no paywall

[earnest harbor]

and you want to sue discord over it?

[vocal shard]

No lol thats expensive

[vital badger]

😕

[vocal shard]

But I'm saying someone could bring a lawsuit up with them if they liked

[earnest harbor]

you just said that though

and you couldn't

[umbral reef]

They broke no law though

and a civil one wont stand

[earnest harbor]

civil would be thrown out

[vocal shard]

But you still could lol

[patent bridge]

Any serious werewolf card gamers here? That wanna join my game please? 😃

[umbral reef]

I can sue anyone for anything anywhere

[earnest harbor]

you can try

[high yacht]

@umbral reef im suing you for being too cute

[vocal shard]

@earnest harbor only big budget companies can sue discord, and really people? Right on discords published day around the corner?

[umbral reef]

Wa

Oi

I aint cute

[patent bridge]

Any1?

[vocal shard]

Oclac only has a cute penis

[high yacht]

thatll be $10k

ew

tmi

[vocal shard]

@patent bridge nobody wants to play your furry wannabe cardgame go somewhere else

[patent bridge]

Wtf

[vocal shard]

[ruby needle]

do you even know wherewolf @vocal shard

[vocal shard]

@high yacht whispers you are not supposed to give them direct attention

[high yacht]

@vocal shard hhh idk who these people are im just fuckin around

[vocal shard]

@ruby needle im just being a dick

[ruby needle]

at least you are honest

[vocal shard]

@high yacht good, just don't give that one attention, but do so to fpaul

its a good passtime if you havent tried it

[umbral reef]

Its like my partime job

[vocal shard]

[modern sand]

@vocal shard #rules The Golden Rule: “Be Excellent to Each Other” btw

[vocal shard]

They are being a dick, in a friendly way

[median basalt]

Someone in here earlier said that you can run VRC without running the Oculus app

I followed their instructions, but as I suspected, SteamVR doesn't recognize my headset

[vocal shard]

@modern sand no u

[median basalt]

Oh nvm, had to manually start the oculus service

[vocal shard]

@vocal shard aww

[ruby needle]

it's not really help ful anyway

it kills your guardian and performance wise not real benefit

[vocal shard]

[median basalt]

@ruby needle the Oculus app eats an entire GB of my memory

[indigo fern]

Looool

[median basalt]

And since the game has a memory leak, I crash within three hours of playtime

[vital badger]

😖

[ruby needle]

are you memory capping?

[median basalt]

Wot?

I have 8 GB RAM is all

[vital badger]

same

[vocal shard]

@vital badger howdy

[ruby needle]

okay.... yeah that is super low

for vr

[vital badger]

hoi

[median basalt]

Ya I know, but at least I can run the game

It's low for VRC, mind you. Other VR games are fine

This game is just poorly optimized

[vital badger]

I have 8gigs and can play for hours (if I don't mind #*& framerates)

[ruby needle]

8gb is low these days and since VR is rather high end stuff normally, i dont think its a wrong statement 😄

[vital badger]

my GPU needs an upgrade

and my RAM doesn't cap, afaik. I do watch with task manager

gets to ~80% full

[median basalt]

Don't really have the budget for a brand new computer right now

[ruby needle]

upgrading ram doesnt mean new computer

[vital badger]

true

[ruby needle]

especially if you still are on DDR3 it shouldnt cost too much

[vital badger]

depends

[median basalt]

No, but then I should also upgrade my CPU if I'm gonna be ordering parts anyway

Basically a new PC except for a GPU

[vital badger]

"chrome"

[median basalt]

Got a GTX 970 which can run for now

But my CPU is like 9 years old at this point

[vital badger]

how does a 290x run this?

and which CPU Rokk?

[median basalt]

Intel core i5 2500k @ 3.3 GHz

[vital badger]

ffs

is it 9yrs old already? ffs

[ruby needle]

no

7

[indigo fern]

Chrome (Looking at RAM): It's free real estate

[vital badger]

i5 2400 here

[median basalt]

It's actually 7 years old, my bad

[vital badger]

N8 so true

[indigo fern]

Ye, we're on 8th gen Intel already

[vital badger]

and i have a 2400 and (please laugh) HD 7770

[ruby needle]

[median basalt]

Still, my CPU is barely keeping up in VRC it seems

[indigo fern]

[ruby needle]

the thing is that vrc is only really using one core.
it should be fine when this game finally gets some multi threading going but its unfortunately not that easy

[vocal shard]

@vital badger HA, that's bad! (I don't get it...)

[vital badger]

I wanted to sell my laptop, which has a 1st gen i7, and buy a new GPU from that

but then it's motherboard dies

[ruby needle]

is it one of the dual core i7's

[vital badger]

quad

920xm

[stable aurora]

sextuple

[vital badger]

octuple

[stable aurora]

deca-core when

[vital badger]

I'm waiting for 3d cpus

[stable aurora]

bro why 3d

[vital badger]

docecahedron cores

[stable aurora]

7d cpus

[vital badger]

that's not how this works

only goes to 5d

[stable aurora]

nah man

bigger number is better

unless it's your prison sentence

[vital badger]

or yours

[umbral reef]

or depth

[stable aurora]

that your was directed at the general populus

[vital badger]

random tv in the background - "The lawnmower is racist..."

like wut

[stable aurora]

only cuts green grass

[vital badger]

I wanted to cut my red grass

and my pink grass

and the overgrown yellow grass- oh thats corn

[stable aurora]

hello fbi i'd like to report this youngster with high R value plantae in his back yard

[vocal shard]

corn is only yellow inside of the husk & on the tassel you buffoon

[vital badger]

BAMBAMBAM "FBI open up!"

[vocal shard]

[stable aurora]

put magnet on pc

[vital badger]

and acorns are only edible if you remove the cap

so what

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remove my cap daddy

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they have to be cooked too

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[stable aurora]

just eat potatoes

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not my PC! D;

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potatoes taste good

and they are multipurpose uwu

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so is cauliflower

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only in the trashcan, mc

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boil and mash and you've got masked potatoes

actually

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cauliflower gross

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144?

cauliflower 144?

[stable aurora]

138

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no

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wat

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144 is gross

[stable aurora]

120?

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:/

ffs

[stable aurora]

ill compromise for 150

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one sec

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https://prnt.sc/jeijf3

this