hardware

[plush turret]

Why would an ssd fail randomly mid use?

like middle of playing RDR2 which is on my secondary drive (admitedly an older SN750) just crapped out and now the computer wont detect it both when plugged into MB and external drive

[violet spade]

https://tenor.com/view/death-comes-for-all-of-us-eagan-tehrani-manifest-all-of-us-will-die-everybody-dies-gif-21510276

[plush turret]

i have a nice CMR drive which has run flawlessly for almost 3 years, but i want to save its data

only problem is the data i want to save is 450gb and i currently have zero place to put it

both my 1tb movie drives are pretty much full

and the 2tb external disk is 80% full

i have maybe 200gb of free space to store backup data now

now i get to play hot potato with various drives and flash sticks to properly work it

AND something has filled 100gb of data on my main drive

[plush turret]

thank you

normally i dont worry but when its time to play hot potato with drives i do

steamapps flares into 130gb instantly

[plush turret]

well ssd came back to life

and now i have 4 total drives in this rig

primary drive: 500gb ssd
game drive: 1tb ssd
media drive: 1tb HDD
extra drive: 4TB HDD

[plush turret]

yep

copy not move since the only place to move it too is a CMR

my buy list for extra pc stuff is monitor, then 3 SSD's yes one giant one is better but they dont really make affordable 12tb ssd's, then probably some better disk drives for media storage

[pliant plank]

I'm curious if anyone has a decent wireless PC mic headset to recommend in the 50-100$ range!

I guess ideally I'd have a stand mic but I think I'd prefer an integrated unless it's completely unfeasable.

I don't know, maybe that price range is too low for anything substantial.

[frank glade]

Will brass and steel fuse in time? Say a brass screw in a steel piece

[fervent jolt]

i mean most steels and brasses are "mostly" compatible as far as galvanic corrosion is concerned, if you're talking about parts siezing together due to rust/oxidation... but how this is related to PC equipment............

[median marsh]

yesn't

one steals atoms from the other

[violet spade]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-what-emote-gif-15234913556197535748

[median marsh]

yeah that was wrong i guess, sorry. or was it?

after all the current flow is from electrons wandering around

[wind egret]

Stainless steel can be sort of prone to cold welding, but that requires stainless against stainless. You won't see that too often, especially not for something screwed in by hand.

[frank glade]

well I for one thought this was the #hardware channel!

[violet spade]

More like computer parts not fricken Home Hardware 😀

[frank glade]

no one reads channel descriptions, so unclear

maybe it's a new screw for my steel pc case (it's not but anyway)

[plush turret]

is there a way to name the drives as they show up in my library folder

since each drive has a very specific function in my originizational style

c: no change
d: games
E: long term
F: media

thnks:

even steam reads the new name

does this work on specific USB dries as well?

i have an absurd number of 32-64gb flash drives

[plush turret]

hah im used to being a meme

my team made this 3 years ago....

and still post it around though usually related to new features to the current project

i know if i try and google these answers ill spend 2 hours trying to find the answer to a question people here can tell me in 30 seconds

given it takes several minutes and time out pages to even load the google search

[shrewd ether]

try good old east europe, https://mediagalaxy.ro/ this is from romania but you can also try moldova, poland, bulgaria and serbia, it might also be that prices are just approximately the same around europe

do you guys think i can burn out my laptop if i try to run UE5.3 it has GTX 1050TI, I7 2.8GHz and 16 RAM, it will be a couple of months untill i can affort a RTX and I want to do something untill then, simple stuff like Meta humans cinematics in small worlds

[frank glade]

I had a 1060 6Gb and UE5 was very slow, almost unusable. Maybe you can use it if your laptop is 720p

[median marsh]

yea had the same experience with 1660, which struggled especially with groom hair

eventually you can switch the metahuman hair for polyhair, which should perform better (but look worse)

[lethal leaf]

Im still rocking a 1060 6gb in UE5

metahuman hair does cause some hitches indeed when changing lods, still need to look into how to fix it

[violet spade]

Yeah just don’t try Niagara fluids, your gpu will have an aneurysm

[lethal leaf]

I'm still even using cascade in some places, although most is niagara by now but yea haven't tried fluids yet

[median marsh]

https://tenor.com/bLoLD.gif

@plush turret dont break our streak

[plush turret]

but i dont really have a question today

im simply waiting for SSDI or chirstmas to get me more money to buy more hardware which at that point i will be asking questions

[plush turret]

actually my next buy is split between replacing the partly broken office chair or getting a better screen

[agile lodge]

intel is putting arc graphics to CPU now with meteor lake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unfxJvgpuc8

[opaque pond]

and abandoning driver support less than a year after release

[violet spade]

“No one’s buying our shitty GPU? Put it on the CPU”

[plush turret]

Interesting because task manager says shared gpu memory is 31gb

On my rig with a new 12700k and 12gb 3060

[plush turret]

This is out of box setting

[gilded bluff]

Hello everyone! Is AMD® Ryzen™ 7-6800H
(8-cores; 16-streams)
32GB DDR5
512GB SSD NVMe M.2
15.6” FullHD IPS 144Hz
GeForce® RTX3060 6GB 140W a good choide for unreal engine 5 to make games like Call of Duty in 2010s? Moreover, is it good for making big projects like GTA 5?

[fresh fog]

@gilded bluff
I wouldnt say it's particularly good for either of those, no.
For one you'll need a source build, which is over half your storage space alone. For two you're on less powered laptop hardware, along with half the reccomended RAM, and a very low amount of vram

Though hardware isn't your barrier to making those games. You need a fairly large team and millions upon millions of dollars

Let's not forget the Dev budget of GTA 5 is estimated to have been in excess of $130 million

[gilded bluff]

Can I make a shooter game like Call of Duty Modern warfare 2, 3, 4 in 2010s?

on my own?

[fresh fog]

Again, no. They're all arena shooters, you need a source build for dedicated servers, which is most of your storage space, good netcode, which normally means hiring a senior programmer, and a team of individuals to handle live service at the minimum

If you wanted to make a single player shooter, or a coop shooter on listen servers, then sure, you could do it

But that wouldn't be like Call of Duty :P

[gilded bluff]

it would make offline game that is made on small map row like in Dishonored. The game would last 4-5 or 3-4 hours

I won't make graphics super cool, so, they would be average

[fresh fog]

An offline game would be fine to make, and you probably wouldn't have much barrier on that hardware. You might feel the lacking vram sometimes though, but if you're not going for super high fidelity graphics it would be fine I imagine

You could definitely make something like a CoD campaign by yourself, but it would be a lot of work.

[gilded bluff]

So I can make my dream game on that hardware?

ok

[fresh fog]

Yeah, a launcher build is important. It locks you out of anything dedicated server related, but that stuff gets expensive real quick, unless it's for suitably small projects (ones where cheating doesn't really matter for instance, though listen servers fill that role too)

You shouldn't run into many if any problems on that, from your description. If you do, it's time to scale back or upgrade hardware :P

[gilded bluff]

So if I want to make offline game that is made on small map row like in Dishonored. The game would last 4-5 or 3-4 hours and I won't make graphics super cool, so, they would be average, can I make a Call of Duty modern warfare 2,3,4 like in 2010s in UE5? or I should use UE4 instead?

[gilded bluff]

ok

[median marsh]

you most likely can't, a company however may succeed (don't feel offended, but the fact that you had to even ask this gives it away)

[fervent jolt]

well, it's been good, but i think it might be time to replace my 980ti... so, rtx4080 or 7900xtx? go! it seems like 4080 is way better for ray tracing and the 7900xtx is slightly better for everything else

[median marsh]

if AMD really runs well i would go for the 24GB AMD card...

even tho that you survived till this point with only 6GB VRAM kinda indicates that 16GB would be sufficient for a while... probably depends on your plans

[fervent jolt]

for mostly just coding and occasional gaming, probably wouldn't matter too much. i do very rarely do soemthing that needs GPU mem but definitely not often

[median marsh]

i think the main factor is if you are interested in running AI model stuff locally, currently it seems like most stuff doesn't really support AMD "cuda"

[fervent jolt]

yeah definitely not, i'm way too old and crusty to care about that stuff

[opaque pond]

i think my gpu isnt the only thing struggling with unreal

my cpu and ram are getting hammered too

[fervent jolt]

thanks, i think that's what i'm boomer'ed on and unaware of. CUDA work, new AI crap, ray tracing, anything else?

er, AI just needs VRAM doesn't it (not that I care either way)

[opaque pond]

no

it uses up to 5 gb of swap

and my cpu for some reason cant be loaded to 100%

yeah... that went well

[daring wyvern]

Hi guys I am having a hard time with the CPU , it is increasing a lot until the point yesterday my computer rebooted. Is there any way to reduce the CPU stress with the settings. I assume the cooling fix is thermal paste and if not then a new cooling system? It is an I7 12700K

let me check, I have no idea -

[final pilot]

is this a new system? Is this a new problem?

wondering if it was running unreal fine previously and this just started or if you're just starting with unreal and finding this out of the gates

[daring wyvern]

is a corsair but not sure what model is 😆

[final pilot]

some kind of h60x

[daring wyvern]

no is not, it will be 2 years eom. If the problem did exist I was not aware really, I just notice because my computer did reboot/block and got a message saying about temperature so had to change o nthe bios

does it look wrong to you? I placed myself and not an expert

[final pilot]

I'm still betting its just ventilation. cleaning all vents and fans, making sure your fans are facing the right directions. You want them to create turbulence in the tower, not just push in front and out the back type thing

[daring wyvern]

I cleaned it today , it was very dirty and the message is gone but still not right

[final pilot]

and of course making sure some of your fans are facing to bring air in to the tower

[daring wyvern]

it was like this 🤣

[final pilot]

you clean the whole tower though right?

[daring wyvern]

why ? aren't supposed to be better?

[fallen oasis]

Get a vacuum on that

[median marsh]

wtf is that

that looks almost worse than a smokers pc

[daring wyvern]

superficially the tower, the cooler thorough

[final pilot]

the aio fan is still working yeah? You can see it running?

[fallen oasis]

Watercooling is cool

[final pilot]

lol

[daring wyvern]

yes it does, it has two actually (one front one behind) and cleaned both

[median marsh]

aircooling is hot tho

i like it warm

[fallen oasis]

It's just a lot of hot air

[daring wyvern]

and also I do have three fan on the top of the tower

[median marsh]

it's like politics

but you can get rid of it

[final pilot]

and bios the aio fan is set to run full retard at all times right?

[daring wyvern]

and also working

[final pilot]

fan

depending on the mobo and header type it will sometimes default to ecomony type settings. aio fan needs to run 100% at all times

I smother mine in a heavy duty nzxt. this thing could explode and it would be quiter than a light fart

[daring wyvern]

that is the odd thing, the bios shows like the cpu fan is not working :/

[final pilot]

what mobo?

[daring wyvern]

tuf gaming z690 plus d2

[median marsh]

thought the more expensive asus boards have an AIO header

[final pilot]

<- maximus, sexy stuff right there

[daring wyvern]

couldn't be the issue a bad optimisation? when I run other projects cpu is working but not that high. For instance with this small project it is below 80 degrees

[final pilot]

well, that will add to it yeah but unreal will not be causing your pc to reboot due to overheating without an existing issue, whether is a real one like hardware failure or superficial like cleaning

[daring wyvern]

first time it wasn't unreal itself , it was me being silly playing my guitar (connected to computer) while UE5 was open. Second time (yesterday) it was just unreal when I was in a BP (it consumes less cpu when actually on viewport)

[final pilot]

I don't know how to check if the pump is having issues but still "technically" working. That is an older pump though so maybe™?

[median marsh]

can't you feel it?

[final pilot]

lol

I wouldn't

if its overheating might be a bit spicy

like, you could have flow but not enough and with these closed loops you can't tell because they aren't meant to be opened up and checked out

[median marsh]

also your mainboard might be able to tell you if the pump is running, if it's powering it

[final pilot]

@daring wyvern what's your budget if you need to replace something?

[median marsh]

technically they are water fans 😄

[final pilot]

yeah on this boeard you should see the pump in bios I think and this is the correct config fyi

assuming thats all correct already

[daring wyvern]

well not much at this point, a wedding is coming next year so im broke 🤣 but i need to fix it anyhow

[daring wyvern]

so then the one I have is not really the most optimal?

[final pilot]

yeah you can see your pump in your bios

does it show the pump being recognized properly

[daring wyvern]

I think it was saying N?A

n/a

[median marsh]

it should at least be able to sense a current flow 🤷

[daring wyvern]

but cpu fan it was saying N/A definitely

let me actually confirm it

[final pilot]

it may show that way just baesed on other settings. I'll peak in the bios manual

ok so it shows up right

[daring wyvern]

sorry what do you mean "right"? shouldnt the cpu fan be like cha2/3/4?

[final pilot]

do those 12th gens normally run that hot idle?

well your aio fans should be connected to cpu_fan and cpu-opt according to the manual

[daring wyvern]

i never monitored being honest, I did monitor my graphic card purely for being careful in the beginning but with the pass of time I didn't pay atenttion to temperature until yesterday when I started to have this issue and then I researched at that temperature is a bad sign

[daring wyvern]

sorry does it mean that my setup is correct and the issue is not the fans / cooler , right?

[final pilot]

not sure. how many chasis fans do you have connected?

[daring wyvern]

sec

[final pilot]

that shows 3 chasis fan headers in use

[daring wyvern]

5

[final pilot]

and how many headers do they connect to in total, theres obviously some doubl-fans there

[daring wyvern]

mmmmmmmmmmm

[final pilot]

ooh thats right, single fan aoi so it'll only connect into cpu_fan header

[daring wyvern]

the only one I can see is the one next to the cpu, i remember when I "build" I had no idea what I was doing and a friend was helping me through a call 🤣

i think the frontal one was one header and then the other two another one

[final pilot]

ok, I'd suggest making sure that the aio fan is connected into cpu_fan header like in the image, otherwise its not going to be running with the correct profile and definitely will raise temp

[daring wyvern]

ok mister

thank you very much all for your help, I will try tomorrow as it is very dark now

just a quick one, when you say aoi fan , is this the one closer to the cpu, right?

[final pilot]

the one mounted on the CPU is the pump.

the fan would be in the image above'

also looking online that 12th gen i7 is perfectly normal to run that hot. around 80ish

[median marsh]

yea under load...

[final pilot]

no even idle

[daring wyvern]

oh really?

[final pilot]

thats what I'm seeing online anyway.

[daring wyvern]

idle is much less after cleaning

50 degrees

[final pilot]

normal operating temps up to 100 (100 isn't nomrlay depsite whatever they say)

[daring wyvern]

ok

[median marsh]

no NOT in idle

thats bullshit

[final pilot]

yeah 50 would be a good baseline. 7th gens were a mofo with high temps too. silicon lottery with them. I won the lottery lol idle at 32

[final pilot]

not 100 idle that would be like running on the red line by default

[daring wyvern]

atm just with chrome and dc it will be fluctuating between 48 to 60

[median marsh]

if you have 80deg in idle, i would ask for a refund

[daring wyvern]

when I open a blank project in uE5 it will between 65 to 80

[median marsh]

because then you bought a space heater, not a modern CPU

[daring wyvern]

and when I open mine (>100gb project) is between 70 to 100

[final pilot]

if you're getting temps that high idle (even just chrome), something is definitely wrong

[daring wyvern]

48 is not high, the 100 is the max (when I opened my project UE5)

[median marsh]

i think those are limits, not your max

at this point it might throttle hard

[final pilot]

48 idle is fine.

[median marsh]

that depends on the room temperature, too

i got ~40deg "idle" while playing minecraft

[final pilot]

@steel stream you didn't remove the pump from the CPU when you were checking things out by chance did you (if you haven't yet, don't)

Just one last consideration. If you didn't actually get a heat warning (you should get a bsod for that as well), your PC will either bsod or reboot if the power supply isn't high enough wattage for your setup (or if the power supply is starting to die). 100gb project will run the graphics card, disk and cpu high when loading for sure

[daring wyvern]

no @final pilot I didn't, may I ask why?

i didn't get any blue screen, I actually got it sometimes before but never thought it was temperature so didn't worry much. Usually when I did format my pc it would be better

[final pilot]

just checking. if you had, the thermal paste would likely have a very poor seal and from that, very bad heat disipation.

all depends on the processor. 7th gens were notorious for sitting at 80 when true idle. Was entirely dependent on the wafer it was cut from. I don't have much hands on with 12th gen so no idea what issues they may have

my personal is still running 7th gen lol next build will be 14th. Can't wait for that! What an upgrade

[daring wyvern]

oh i see, I thought that would be the only that could cause it

tomorrow I will check how it is connected and also inside the cooler, maybe there is some dust perhaps

[agile lodge]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/resources/core-ultra-1.html#gs.264gvw

[stoic sorrel]

Hey guys. I wanted to optimize my unreal editor when it running so that my gpu doesn’t go crazy. Right now even in an empty scene of UE5.3.2 causes my gpu temp to go up and as a result the fans go nuts. Is there a way to calm down my RTX 4080 a little while working in UE?

[mighty cosmos]

You can 100% have a curve for your fans, and some allow you to set a curve for the pump

There isn't a reason to run at 100% all the time

[final pilot]

Corsair AIO coolers say they require 100% in their manual.

Or at least mine does

[mighty cosmos]

Well that's an AIO I'm gonna avoid then 😂

But yeah, that's not a requirement for every AIO and there are no logical reasons for it

It's cooling the radiator and the fluid inside so if the CPU isn't heating it up there is no reason to run it at 100%

Not to mention water has a lot of thermal capacity so even if there is suddenly a huge load on the cpu and temps increase it's gonna take a while for the fluid to heat up

The pump is commonly ran at 100%

[vocal basalt]

Has Epic said anything about addressing the performance issues with threadripper pro?

These benchmarks are pretty concerning for my team as we just started putting together a new workstation:
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/amd-ryzen-threadripper-7995wx-content-creation-preview/#Game_Dev_Virtual_Production_Unreal_Engine

[median marsh]

are those benchmarks still made with UE4?

also they aren't looking tooo bad imho

[drifting fern]

Hii, these are my specs for the pc i'm thinking of building for Unreal engine, I'm strictly going for DDR4 rn because its very stable and everything is bang for the buck now sales are on, wanted your guys opinion on this and generally I won't be updating this system well until 3-4 years, maybe more even. If there' something that can be improved please let me know.

NZXT H5 Flow
Asus ROG Strix LC 240 RGB or COOLER MASTER MASTERLIQUID ML240L ARGB WHITE EDITION V2
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X Processor
GIGABYTE B550 Vision D-P (Wi-Fi) Motherboard
Adata XPG Spectrix D50 64GB(32x2) CL18 DDR4 3600MHz
Corsair PRO NH MP600 4TB M.2 NVMe Gen4 Internal SSD
Corsair RM1000e 1000 Watt 80 Plus Gold ATX 3.0 SMPS

thinking of getting a 4060ti 16gb later on or if a better card releases

[drifting fern]

Btw what do you think there's only 1 gen 4 slot nvme m.2 slot and a gen 3 nvme m.2 slot, out of both which should I install programs on and which drive should I save my projects from which I'll be opening multiple times to work on. I was thinking of installing windows and programs on a gen3 m.2 and all the project work and folders would be in gen4 m.2 the 4tb one. Would my softwares run slower like Unreal engine, 3ds max, substance painter and designer, zbrush? Or would they not be affected at all? because the main project is in gen4 drive

[pale depot]

Did you calculate the PSU load in watts?, because maybe 1000w is overkill ( i don't know but maybe)

[fresh fog]

A 4060ti is a waste of money and severely underpowered for that system

Also, a 1k W PSU is overkill

You also don't have a graphics card listed immediately for that system

Which you need

For those specs you'll be wanting a 4090 or a 4080 or something tbh.
No point going all out and then on the more budget end of gpus

[drifting fern]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3mHsVW with a 4080 the estimated wattage is going around 656W. So would an 850w PSU would be fine I guess?

This contains all the spec'd out things that I'll be aiming for.

Yes, I was thinking of getting Asus ROG Strix LC 240 RGB or COOLER MASTER MASTERLIQUID ML240L ARGB WHITE EDITION V2

but as per people nzxt was a bit more reliable in terms of software and hardware

no no, I fully spec'd it out, just to check out the wattage count I'm just going with Corsair PRO NH MP600 4TB M.2 NVMe Gen4 Internal SSD

I have my old 1660Ti 6gb which still handle scenes in unreal engine like a champ, You'd be amazed lmao. I got so used to making most out of my cheap budget that I always optimized my assets to max, I can use till then. Plus, I'll be moving my focus to concept art and 3d modelling in a bit. I don't have an immediate need for GPU, it can very well wait a month or two.

And I can't get RAMs in a kit, as they are almost out of stock every time or either different frequencies and CAS latency. Especially , 32x1 or 32x2

[drifting fern]

got it thanks @iron zenith , and by the way great article on vram deep dive^^ https://landelare.github.io/2023/05/30/vram-deep-dive.html

Also one more thing since the estimate future wattage will be 656W, would 850W be fine?

What specs are you running?

[lethal geode]

can i use a dp cable that supports 1080p 240Hz with a 1080p 165Hz monitor?

ok

[plush turret]

laura has join the holiday pfp

also i found that theres no appreciable change if you keep older games on an HDD and only the bigger newer ones on the SSD, so i can fill my 4tb spare drive with games

[pale depot]

sure it would

[plush turret]

is keeping the GPU at 31C while using it at 30% utilization of Vram a good feat?

when its a 12gb 3060

question, why do my HDD's have temp sensors yet apparenly the SSD's dont?

[median marsh]

SSD's do have sensors, eventually you have to update whatever tool you use to try to read those

[plush turret]

Open hardware monitor is atm the only one

[magic parrot]

Is cables like sata3 -> Type-c exist? I have external ssd, it uses type c, i want to connect it to sata in motherboard cuz my type c on board already occupied, any ideas?

[plush turret]

Im gonna end up with a half dozen hardware monitoring programs aren't i?

Is there a good program that can visualize my cpu core temps? Or at least an average? I know they are there because fan control can detect them

The motherboard also apparently has 2-3 sensors of its own

I get why zero fan mode is used, but it seems to stay off until the gpu hits like 60C

Even at forced 75% speed the noise isnt bad

Especially not with my tv on as well like it usually is

Need no, want to use them because certain programs are causing issues yes.

A net limiter, hardware observer, fan control and task manager on cpu usage windo

[nimble mica]

Just wondering, my computer won’t power on all I get is RGB lighting on the motherboard no fans nothing the power switch on the top of the case which is a brand new asus tuf case , when I turn the computer on a little white light in the middle of the power switch comes on that’s not even coming on is it likely is a switch instead of a power supply

Sadly, no, I don’t see anything anywhere

Asus tuf 450 mob

450 something lol

Yes, he used to work great for days ago in mysteriously I try to power it on and nothing except the Rgb lights on the motherboard. The white light on top of the power switch doesn’t even come on oh and by the way, it’s one of the flower 650 W power supplies I regret getting it now because it’s not an amazing power supply but customer service is on Taiwan. There’s no US phone number not that I’ve been able to find any way that I feel sad about.

Buyer beware I guess

Just in case it is the power supply I did put a name I forgot a form on their website but they’re just saying they get a hold of me a couple days. Crossing my fingers a couple days only two.

😀

Anyway, do you have any idea which pins on the motherboard you quickly short out to power the computer on in case it’s the switch the power switch

I’ve had motherboard they did have lights regarding the status, but this one doesn’t

They’re all black

Yeah, I was thinking that if I can find it

Yup

Broke toe the other day and of box is downstairs

lol

Surgery tomorrow 😗

Ty that’s a hipuge help I’ll give that a try later

👍

[opaque pond]

how fast should a 5.4k hdd be?

what should i look for?

[opaque pond]

storage

[opaque pond]

@iron zenith well atleast 32 gb are enou...

[celest jungle]

Any thoughts on this particular laptop for UE5? https://www.hp.com/ca-en/shop/product.aspx?id=7x979ua&opt=abl&sel=ntb

[cosmic granite]

looks fine

its overkill

that is a very unassuming laptop with specs like that damn

[plush turret]

Is forcing my fans to run at 75-100% speed bad or just a noisy choice?

[cosmic granite]

noisy choice

[plush turret]

that costs more than a 4080 and a decent rig combined....

technically for that i could get my current rig and a 4090 for that much

[obtuse rapids]

How does Discord streaming a display capture/window if you have multiple GPUs - for example, the monitor displaying DISCORD is running on an iGPU but you are capturing from another monitor that is using a PCI-E GPU?

[plush turret]

what your monitor displays is not really whats actually being rendered by the computer

especially if you have a gpu and are plugged into the MB

[obtuse rapids]

Random question - trying to diagnose USB Disconnecting sound, but USBLogView is empty and nothing pops up in Device Manager

[plush turret]

ive heard that sometimes too, usually ive had it from bumping a usb connector/drive that is a bit worn and doesnt connect fully

[obtuse rapids]

Device Manager shows the only recent events are - this "Connection to the Windows Metadata and Internet Services (WMIS) could not be established. "

[obtuse rapids]

Shouldn't that show up in USBLogView?

[plush turret]

no clue

[plush turret]

that looks more like it might be a software issue

i know i still get issues with my wifi card and telling it to restart fixes the problem

idk how much is hardware, software, or the really crappy 400+ ping the network has

[obtuse rapids]

Goddamn there HAS to be a way to pinpoint when windows plays a sound, I don't just want to disable it

This is the only thing I could think of

god you are my hero - I saw one of the hubs flashing - is there a reason it didn't show up in usbview log?

[celest jungle]

yeah my old main desktop has 64 GB so I was worried about that.

[celest jungle]

that is canadian dollars so I don't think that is quite the same. Our GPU prices are much higher in numbers

8 core cpu. I agree. I feel 64 GB is good for 4 cores so 8 cores this is kinda nuts eh?

damn

i've been spoiled with 64 GB since 2016 lmfao

everything else about the laptop is amazing tho damn

they don't offer 64 gb

yeah really why!

I did see a great one but it's double the price

4090 with 16 gb vram, 64 gb system ram, etc

some huge cpu

yeah I know

basically a 2070 ti

3070

from what I heard

or I forget maybe a bit better than that. But I really like vram

16 gb is better than 8

oh no 3090 ti wow wow wow lmfao

but less vram

[plush turret]

do they still make tablets with USB ports in the side or is everything switched to USB-c

[quick grove]

hi, anyone know what type of power supply should you buy? because there's alot of it but idk what to lookout for

[celest jungle]

IMO this is easy. What GPU do u have? Look up the specs, it will say what is the recommended wattage. Get a high-quality PSU of that wattage.

chances are you don't have a million hard disks or anything fancy and it will be the right choice.

[median marsh]

it will be the right choice, no matter if you have lots of hard disks or not

as long as you buy a quality PSU the recommendation from the GPU manufactor is fine

[quick grove]

oh ok. can i just get the high quality wattage regardless? will it harm anything?

[quick grove]

wattage? right?

[celest jungle]

It will not harm anything to have more wattage. It can help with cleaner power delivery, as coil whine goes hand in hand with getting near the limits of the PSU.

Brand name is important tho. Do a quick google search for the best PSU brands and only buy from them.

[quick grove]

ok thanks! so all i need to lookout for wattage and brand.

[celest jungle]

Yes. Within the brand there will be like different tiers of product perhaps. There are efficiency ratings like 80 bronze or whatever but generally sticking with a good brand is enough these days

[quick grove]

just wondering, i couldnt find anything bigger than 700w. is 700w the cap? so im gonna assume thats the highest and i will continue my search from there?

oh nvm, there's 850w 😭 ok im bad at this. sorry!! haha

oh wow 2000watts

mind me asking, what's the watts you used in your PC?

ok from the looks of it, i guess the most popular brand PSU is corsair.

ok i just googled the best PSU, they said it is corsair CS450 but is only 450watts .... sorry just confused 😅

[celest jungle]

I have a 3070 and a 650 W corsair psu

from the nvidia website for the 3070:

also make sure ur psu has the approriate connectors but if you get a name brand one with the right wattage it most likely will have the right connectors

those are the specs for the 3070 ti and 3070 respectively

Some cards by third-parties will have different specs but usually not much different

[quick grove]

ahh i see. ok thanks!! you just gave me a clue haha. because im using 4060 that means i have to get a higher Wattage. probably 750w

[quick grove]

ahh okok noted! thanks

[celest jungle]

the specs for the 4060 are listed on the nvidia website, see here. you only need 550 W.

for th e4060

[quick grove]

oh so i was right! because i keep googling and googling and most of the results said that i shouldnt need more than 650w for 4060! i guess i will take yours as a confirmation. I was not expected it to be lower than 700w 😅

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!

[celest jungle]

no problem

[median marsh]

yea but i would pick a seasonic, they are usually cheaper than corsair

and chances are high that the corsair is actually a seasonic with a corsair branding

e.g. seasonic focus gm-650

[quick grove]

oh ok i will search that brand! thank you!!

[celest jungle]

corsair, seasonic, a few others... get whichever is the best value at the moment for where it is most convenient for you to buy it.

man I am scratching my head hard wondering if I can live with 32 GB ram for UE5 in a laptop, which would not be the only machine I have but just the portable one... Laura was pretty stern about needing 64 GB and that is an instinct I share but I am so tempted to save like $3k and get a machine with 32 gb lmfao

[glossy oak]

anyone use an oled monitor for development?

I have one but idk if I should do work on it or just game. I don't know how much difference it would make for burn in

[celest jungle]

what would be the problem any monitor is fine

btw yeah my project definitely could use more than 32 GB 😦

[celest jungle]

ahhh I see. Consider any electronic device, especially a monitor, a consumable item. Use it as you need to. If burn-in is an issue for your model take some precautions but just do what you need to.

[glossy oak]

I just got a G8 oled and I want to take precautions before I start using it, after I'm certain I did everything that can slow down the burn in process I can forget about it and use the monitor for productivity

[celest jungle]

I used to get paranoid about this stuff all the time, but in my experience my concerns are always overshadowed by some other real-world implications. The product breaks, becomes obsolete, or I just move on before it ever becomes an issue.

that is just some rando reddit post

https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/15y5fli/how_to_prevent_oled_burnin_a_quick_guide/

ok now for a good question. Two laptops, both have 64 GB ram. The same price, everything basically the same but the choice is this:

1. i9-13900H: 6 P-cores 8 E-cores + 4090 16GB vram
   OR
2. i9-13980HX: 8 P-cores 16 E-cores + 4080 12GB vram

I almost wanna opt for the cpu

I have a ue5 project that I am working on. It's basically just for ue5.

To be able to do a lot of dev work, maybe not with like always peak FPS/epic quality, but still everyday dev work. And with the CPU options I might actually package/compile on it lmfao

Also using tortoise-tts for generating AI voice clips so the extra vram is nice on the 4090

Can generate longer voice clips that way 😎

yeah good call

12 gb is enough vram for a laptop

plus with cooling performance who knows if the 4090 is worth it

thank you lmao

I overthink stuff too much

oh ok turns out I bought an old celeron netbook for $5

yes

the intel igpu will handle it well

shared 4 GB of system ram!!

Narrator: It was not enough for BioShock.

that was weird I am watching a video and at precisely the moment I clicked on this channel and saw ur gif the video played a rimshot sound effect

https://youtu.be/dpuVqascCns?si=wYnJuiYxvEsMPAeO&t=378

I linked the exact time I was at lmfao so weird

[celest jungle]

yeah I know but it seems that the most common models that have what we need are gaming laptops

I would much prefer no rgb and stuff but whatever

I've noticed most gaming laptops have way way way too little ram lmfao

for me it comes down to local availability. I am in canada and like it just seems hard to find specific models so I am just looking at what is locally value-priced

but actually yeah that other one with the monster intel cpu was pretty good. I would prefer a new ryzen tho for power efficiency and just normal cores not weird ones lmfao

but but but 4nm!!

[plush turret]

is it really bad my main SSD is at 50C? sentinel has that drive flagged for poor health

[celest jungle]

50 C is kinda barely warm

the hot water from my tap is 90 C

80 C sorry

[plush turret]

though idk why the 500gb drive is listed as dist 2 when its C drive

[celest jungle]

Is the red flag simply from the temp?

[plush turret]

seems too and idk why it says 79% health

[celest jungle]

it is because of where u plugged it in on ur pc likely, or just the order that ur system indexed the drives

[plush turret]

nothing seems to explain why its 79%

it was at 100% yesterday

the health history only goes back to yesterday but has somehow been 79% the entire time? i really dont think id miss that

its fill? its got 100gb+ free

[celest jungle]

I use a RAID-0 array made with two 12 year old hard disks on one of my PCs... would hate to know their health status

This raid array holds ue source and the project and packages from lmfao

[plush turret]

my raw storage HDD has a long up time:

my main SSD has handled a lot of data:

how in the world have i written that much to a 500gb drive

[daring wyvern]

hi guys, I just got a corsair h60x in the end . Wow temperature is always below 70 in the editor with ultra, many thansk for your help really appreciate it !

[celest jungle]

no no no lmfao it's just the build server. The project/source control are on a different machine.

it is totally inadequate as a build machine. 16 GB ram. 4 cores @ 3.5 Ghz... said raid array. But somehow it squeaks by with lots of garbage collection when compiling shaders lmfao

[plush turret]

any issues with lexar as a company?

like for solid state?

[celest jungle]

i think lexar is fine for lower budget yeah

[plush turret]

yeah im mainly concerned is it going to crap out because of shitty quality, really im just looking for SSD speeds and high capacity and the lexar 4tb ssd is in budget

[median marsh]

checkout adata, they are decent for lower budget

[plush turret]

the adata is $10 more

nice

[fresh fog]

You just really want to make sure your SSD has a DRAM controller tbh

[violet spade]

So you can download more RAM? 😀

[median marsh]

pretty much any ssd has that

the question is how large it is, and if it's covering your usual write loads

[median marsh]

then they would never achieve any good results tho!? (i mean write speeds close to what their interface is capable of)

[coarse hollow]

I bought a cheapie 12TB HDD platter type. Cool thing is, i can always tell when it is accessing/working since i can hear it (which i like). sad thing is, that is from 15 feet away :/

[raven yew]

Thanks to you I've decided to check my own stuff, u know, like if something is writing excessive amounts for no reason.
Ended up deleting asus bloat)

[raven yew]

Thanks. I've ditched armoury crate in favor of g-helper. now reading about this wtfpbt business and... this is some scary BS, ngl)

the only reason i've installed armoury crate in a first place is cuz I got me shiny new laptop, so, I wanted to check what's it all about. In retrospective, I should have not bothered.

[plush turret]

well the new connection came in:

[wind egret]

Context: Rural Texas

[plush turret]

in 25MB (not Mb) it says "very fast"

its like 10x faster than what we had for about the same price

yeah im at 3mb atm

which is vastly better than 0.3

which means a gb takes 12 minutes to download as opposed to 2 hours

[violet spade]

Assuming we’re not talking bandwidth

[violet spade]

Bandwidth or download speed?

lol

F

[raven yew]

I know you programmers don't like to interact irl and stuff
but escaping to Mars is kinda overkill, ain't it?))

[forest jay]

Hey all! Putting feelers out to see if anyone has had any awesome, decent or horrible experiences with Unreal and a spec'd out macbook pro m3 max or similar just utilizing sequencer for cinematics and motion graphics. I'm being offered one by my company and they're pushing for more labor intensive 3D render work. I've been just on my 2019 razer til now doing mograph stuff within sequencer and C4D. Also weighing out the possibility of Mac studios if I'll be given one over the macbooks. While I'll be eventually building out my own pc. I'm avoiding another pc laptop as they're great for portable gaming the life span just gets smoked by Mac for professional use in my past experiences. But that was before I was using unreal 🤷‍♀️

[plush turret]

better screen or more storage, which is the better buy? im getting both eventually but which first? pricing is effectively the same

[violet spade]

You’ve been on a shopping spree lol

[visual crystal]

I am trying to decide on whether I should get a 4080 or a 7900 XTX for UE5, what would you guys recommend?

[visual crystal]

Well, I also plan on using it for gaming as well…

But I’d be paying about 1600 for an XTX and 2000 for a 4080

This is Australian prices

That is one of the factors for leaning towards it along with it being cheaper.

[violet spade]

Yeah but DLSS and frame-gen 🥲

I meant for the gaming side

Fair enough

[plush turret]

This is the time of year i usually get large amounts of money

Usually about 2/3 of my yearly income is in December

[quick grove]

Can this be put inside the casing?

cos it didnt say internal ssd

[celest jungle]

Being able to use the GPU for ML easily is something I would pay more than $400 for. Nvidia wins every time if you EVER want to do ML.

[celest jungle]

More storage 100%

CUDA is king in ML world

I have never seen someone with an AMD card have a good time lmfao* (with ML)

[plush turret]

is it bad to get a device like a phone down to like 10C

my phone was overheating and actually displayed a thermal warning so i sat it on a freezer pack

im actually curious if theres issues with running active cooling around a desktop, like i have welding and HVAC training, based on calcs from the desktops own sensors i could build a compressor unit that would chill the physical case of the computer to 8C and the surrounding air to about 13C

[violet spade]

Phones are generally designed to handle -35C or so with no issues, else they wouldn’t work very well in the cold. As for chilling your entire PC that low, it’s prly not a good idea. Look at the recommended operating temp specs of your parts before you damage something

[fresh fog]

The only real danger of running an entire pc very cold is condensation. If you can eliminate the risk of condensation, then super chilling the whole pc can be pretty good

Lots of people trying to do insane overclocks cool their CPU with liquid nitrogen, but as a consequence, they have to waterproof the motherboard with something

As for running a compressor unit as you describe, don't, it's a massive waste of energy for 0 gain. You're not a competitive overclocker, and if you were there's farrrr cheaper and better methods

[violet spade]

I was thinking SSDs and such that have certain temp requirements. It’s one thing to use directed cooling like AIOs and another to make it snow in your case 😀

[quartz kindle]

What type of improvement will I experience in UE going from a SATA SSD to an NVMe?

[fallen oasis]

Minimal, probably

[plush turret]

actually i have a few spare compressors from some minifridges, and building a dehydration system into the external cooling case isnt that hard, ive done that defore

[visual crystal]

ML? Not sure what you are referring to here.

[celest jungle]

Sorry. Machine Learning. Not the greatest term to use I should say generative AI or something

[visual crystal]

Machine Learning is easier than trying to figure out what ML meant

[violet spade]

ML is a pretty common acronym for machine learning, in tech

Maybe it’s diff down under tho 😃

[visual crystal]

Can't really say, I'm just not deeply invested into machine learning stuff

[mighty cosmos]

Rocm is getting actually useful but Nvidia is still faster for ML

[celest jungle]

good to know. It would be nice to have options like Laura says

[celest jungle]

It's not about fast enough. It's about wasting real world human time trying to get it to work and it ultimately not working so... worth way way way more than $400/

I have seen a guy go through a whole months-long ordeal. Getting a radeon. thinking it didnt work with his pc. but the RMA found nothing wrong, he's stuck with it. Finally gets it working, it was some weird thing. Now he tries to get the things he wants working. Supposedly they should. Nope they don't. He doesn't need to game, he just wanted to support AMD cause he is a weird fanboy but long story short this guy is a computer friggin engineer by profession and couldn't get AMD to work with the ML thingies he wanted them to. I think he just uses remote compute rn.

granted this was on Linux too, because, well, fanboy

aaaand that concludes my anti-AMD FUD for the day lmfao sorry.

speaking of AMD should I get this laptop? LMAO

I wonder if 8 cores is enough tho ugh

I could opt for a 4060 instead of 4070 and get an intel with 8P and 8E cores

[celest jungle]

that is very true yes. For me, I just can't ignore the ML side. I use it for gamedev, to generate dialogue locally.

[median marsh]

the legion pro is an popular choice here

[celest jungle]

big question is core count vs 4070

[median marsh]

i would go for the 4070

[celest jungle]

hmmm yeah

city sample says 12 cores tho lmfao

i use tortoise-tts to generate audio

afaik nobody has nicely ported it to AMD-ish stuff. I'm no expert I need it to work easily lmfao

ugh this is my thought too but the 4070 is better

like it is noticeable apparently

[median marsh]

the 8 extra cores are e-cores, so meh

[celest jungle]

this is truly a tough choice. basically the same price

I dunno about that

"crap" being same performance as a 3070?

[median marsh]

a laptop 4060 is even worse

[celest jungle]

I use a 3070 as my main dev machine lmfao

I use a 3060 12 GB on my second machine and I would hate it with 8 GB

3070 is ok with 8 GB cause it has a bit extrajuice ugh

apparently with the 40 series the power limit makes basically no difference. IIRC this is a high-power one anyway

*no difference for 4060 and 4070

above that, it does make a diff

there is some voltage lock that prevents it from using more power even if requested

yeah TBH the CPU never becomes a concern/bottleneck for me at the moment. But, the city sample saying 12 cores worries me for when I add more features to my project

[mighty cosmos]

For running the models most definitely not worth it, would go with the cheaper option

But for training it matters a lot, it's a difference between training a month or 2 months

[celest jungle]

GT code?

ah ok thanks

lmao... yeah just rent one

I could get a 4090 laptop and mine on it

😎

mine cryptocoinkitties or something

watever the new nft thing is

money cash money

I am joking

lmfao

I would mine lines of dialogue for my game

from tortoise-tts

[mighty cosmos]

Amd is a bit of a pain to setup for ML

Only recently it has been actually even supported on Windows

But even at work all our ML machines (including my personal) are running Nvidia's GPUs, because it just works, no some obscure setup required

Yeah I was pointing out that it was possible to use Amd but it is a pain

[celest jungle]

that is exactly my experience. I don't have time to mess around to be an AMD fanboy

[mighty cosmos]

For anything serious it's either 4090s or professional accelerators

Wouldn't bother with anything less if you are working with ML seriously, by that I mean training

[celest jungle]

yes true I only do inferencing

[median marsh]

well... for cinebench

how much practical use do you have while working daily in UE? pretty much none imho

especially if your main workstation is a desktop

[opaque pond]

what is the go to gpu for unreal now?

[median marsh]

if that's what he is getting the laptop for...

[median marsh]

4090

[opaque pond]

i meant best price/perf for unreal

not 4070?

[celest jungle]

my main system is a desktop with a 6700k lmao the laptop would be my new main system and I could work from the library and the pre-school while my daughter plays.

[celest jungle]

Yeah the laptop would just be everyday general dev/design work. I'm a solo dev for now so I touch everything.

I don't compile the engine much tho. It would be nice that that is quick but I do it once every engine version.

I might just work off the launcher build on the laptop too

unless I turn it into my packaging machine lmao

my changes have been tiny so far and take like 4 minutes to compile at most I bet I never noticed it

lol random number

i do not even recollect

that was gonna be what I said at first

but I couldn't be certain

Also sometimes I clean my workspace

so then I recompile more I dunno

it's not an issue currently but the engine builds yeah take a while on my old 2700k 😐

yes. 2700k not 12700

I think the 4070 will make my everyday life smoother than the 8 extra e cores. As much as I really do want those extra cores. I sometimes do other c++ work building other software so that would be nice ugh...

this is truly a dilemna. Game designers take note. Tough decisions

they should make a game

u just have to choose between two PC and u gotta use it for the next level

yeah and 8 is already double my best PC

at highger clock speed

The real dilemna is that this is kinda a pointless purchase lmao. what am I doing. do I need a laptop?

I have no room for an extra desktop, and even if I did I would actually rather have a small portable machine. I get so jealous when epic does presentations on laptops with realtime in-engine stuff

wat really how was it crap?

I took ur advice and found one which has been upgraded to 64 GB already lmao

in which way? do u remember the specs

my desktop is 7 years old soooo this might be good for me lmao

was it the one with 48 GB ram?

I can see that being big I;m glad I checked cause I easily need 40+

I also need to remove the hard references to all 66 metahumans because that hits the page file hard on my machine with 16 GB of ram lmao

I digress

I convinced myself not to by any laptop but the company got back to me confirming the machine is brand new but upgraded and now I'm tmepted again

yeah I really need to opt for that 4070 I think

with 64 GB of ram I think it would definitely be better than my main rig

ohhh ok wat do u do all day?

oh ok

yeah if I was strictly doing visual studio work no question I would go for that intel. 4060 would be too much. I wouldn't get this lmao

yeah u could probably safely shut it off

use igpu

yeaaah I have this old lenovo laptop that has integraed intel gpu and amd discrete gpy

and both gpu perform essentially the same it is stupid

[frigid heath]

i had a toshiba laptop once, it was super high end at the time and still works like 15 years later

dont use it anymore but still

when the monitor was down it was prolly thicker than 5cm tho

that was the last good laptop i ever bought that didnt turn pretty much unusable after a year

the need to make em as thin as paper gives a lot of the thermal problems and often near impossible to open it up to repaste gpu/cpu

[celest jungle]

Yeah I dunno it's a case by case thing. Of course some laptops will overheat and be trash, and all gaming laptops will need lots of fans and cooling and there are side-effects to that: dust, noise, etc. But if you want a portable machine with desktop performance what choice is there? lmao

[violet spade]

Just have fixed machines 😀

[celest jungle]

wdym? as in big desktops? I already do and I don't wanna e-waste them. I figure I will keep my eyes out for a good deal on a legion 7 with like 16 AMD cores, a 4080, then upgrade the ram to 64 GB and get an ssd. That will for sure be way better than my best desktop so I won't feel bad about jet engine fan noise.

yeah I heard about that with the intel

yeah on the specific model legion I am looking at, the intel is able to be wrangled cooler I guess allegedly

13900hk

the legion is pretty badass. the pro 7 model with 4080 has legit cooling

for a laptop

[violet spade]

I have a weird issue

My 4000D tends to vibrate randomly. At first I thought it was fan bearings going because adjusting fan speeds up and down would somehow fix it, but it’s the case lid. Adjusting the screw tightness, or lately just using a slight tap fixes it

I’m thinking maybe it’s due to positive or negative pressure? 🤷‍♂️

[celest jungle]

I have a weird fan on my desktop that sounds like a rough bearing. Opening and closing the front panel kinda "slams" it into being quiet. Lmao... might still be a fan on urs too.

[worldly wharf]

sup guys. do you guys have any MSI psu ones?
MSI is cheap now but the reviews are 50/50 so im not sure if its reliable.

specifically msi a850gl

[violet spade]

Maybe one of the case fans 🤷‍♂️

[celest jungle]

yeah for me I know exactly which one it is. When it gets colder it especially acts up.

[celest jungle]

I had no idea they sold PSU. if the reviews are mixed, what is making you consider it? Just price? The PSU is the last thing to cheap out on. If everything else is cheap then go for it lmao.

By that I mean: if u don't care if ur mobo, cpu, ram, gpu, and ssd all get taken out at once by a bad psu then go for it.

But at the same time chances are you'd be fine so take a risk at your own judgement

[violet spade]

All these companies try to branch out and make things they’re not necessarily good at

[plush turret]

i have an MSI PSU and it seems to work fine

the a1000g

[gilded bluff]

hello guys I have another question:

Is AMD® Ryzen™ 7-7735HS
(8-cores; 16-streams)
Ram 16GB DDR5
Ssd 512GB SSD NVMe M.2
15.6” FullHD IPS 144Hz
GeForce® RTX4060 8GB 140W good enough to run unreal engine's latest versions like 5.3 smoothly and good?

[opaque pond]

I work with much weaker hardware so you should be somewhat fine for now @gilded bluff

[gilded bluff]

what is your hardware characteristics? And does it run unreal engine 5.3 smoothly?

[gilded bluff]

I need a hardware to make a 4-5 hour game like dishonored 1 or call of duty modern warfare old 2010s series or black ops series. Is it good hardware to make that game?

[opaque pond]

4500u 15gb ram and things , no

[gilded bluff]

So I can not run ue 5.3 smoothly with my hardware?

[opaque pond]

I mean 16 will work like it should complete the tasks just way slower

[gilded bluff]

AMD® Ryzen™ 7-6800H
(8-cores; 16-threads)
32GB DDR5
512GB SSD NVMe M.2
15.6” FullHD IPS 144Hz
GeForce® RTX3060 6GB 140W is it good?

[opaque pond]

If it's a gaming laptop tho the ram should be upgradable

[gilded bluff]

its asus tuf gamming a15

[opaque pond]

Eh the tuf lineup is hit or miss

Legion 5 is what you should look at

For price/perf price/quality sweetspot

[gilded bluff]

hre is a nother option AMD® Ryzen™ 7-6800H
(8-cores; 16-threads)
32GB DDR5
512GB SSD NVMe M.2
15.6” FullHD IPS 144Hz
GeForce® RTX3070 8GB 140W

[opaque pond]

Also a desktop will always be better but if you strictly need a laptop just ignore this

[gilded bluff]

From 3 options that I showed the most best option is the third option?

ok

[gilded bluff]

ok

which characteristics should I have to run UE 5.3?

[opaque pond]

Atleast a 6 modern core cpu , bare minimum 16gb tho 32gb highly recommended, storage 256gb but more ( 1 TB) is very highly recommended and a gpu with atleast 6 gb vram tho again more are highly recommended

[gilded bluff]

what if I will change 16gb ddr5 ram to 32 gb ddr5?

[opaque pond]

16gb won't be fun

It should be better

[gilded bluff]

AMD® Ryzen™ 7-7735HS
(8-cores; 16-streams)
Ram 32GB DDR5
Ssd 512GB SSD NVMe M.2
15.6” FullHD IPS 144Hz
GeForce® RTX4060 8GB 140W should be good

[opaque pond]

Again , is a laptop your only choice?

Just to be sure

[gilded bluff]

yes

I need so that I can move from one place into another

and my budget is not very high

[opaque pond]

Ye this too

[gilded bluff]

I want to make a game like a dishonored 1 or call of duty modern warfare old 2010s series or black ops series. Is it good hardware to make that game?

Like the game will be 4-5 hours gameplay and it will look like call of duty black ops or modern warfare series in 2010s but with better graphics like in gta 5

graphics will be not ultra realistic but will be good to watch, simple ai, and simple locations and scenes

[opaque pond]

@gilded bluff are you working alone?

[gilded bluff]

yes

[opaque pond]

your project scope should be covered in theory by that laptop

[gilded bluff]

yes

[opaque pond]

unless you turn on unnecessary settings and use extremely high quality objects & textures

[gilded bluff]

can that hardware run unreal engine 5.3? not smoothly but still with 30-40 fps on basics?

ok

[celest jungle]

🥔

[lethal geode]

do i need to plug in the fan cables into the mobo?

because the cables on the fans have little tabs on them that stop them from fitting into the other ports

[fresh fog]

yes, the fan cable can onlt fit into one type of port

that's what those little tabs are for

to force you into the right port

[lethal geode]

it’s the right port, says it in the manual. but when i try to plug one in the port beside the motherboard power, the tabs hit the 24pin connector not letting it go in

there is 2 ports on the bottom left of the board, and i can’t fit 2 cables in there either because of the tabs. i have 4 fans btw

i don’t have any fans connected to the mobo atm, and the fans are running fine. will this damage anything in the long term?

[median marsh]

no it wont damage anything

the advantage of them connected to the mainboard is just that the mainboard can run them at slower speed when they aren't required

[velvet spindle]

How necessary is a heat sink on an m.2 ssd, had to remove the one covering the empty m.2 slot on my board, got the ssd installed and realized I’m not going to be able to get the cover installed again without most likely pulling the gpu to give me more working room

[wind egret]

The memory cells like it warm. But the controller will heat throttle. If you bought it for 7 gbps speeds, it won't get them.

[velvet spindle]

I got the heatsink installed I didn’t think it’d be an issue as it’s only a team group mp34, however I figured if it was on the board before it should probably go back on with the drive installed

[fervent jolt]

jfc, why has amd always hired high school students for their gpu driver suite. it was a problem with their company in like 2003 and it's still a problem today. i decided to let myself try and stray from nvidia after 10 years of normal reliable nvidia service... and boom, today it's radeon can't fkg use a portrait oriented monitor. the mouse cursor won't display in the correct location. seriouslyyyyyyyyyyyy

but get this, the "fix" is... turn on cursor pointer trails in windows

lol if i try to screen cap it, the screen cap program records the cursor in the correct location

Boomer recording mode engage

[violet spade]

lol, this is why I resist switching back to AMD. I also haven’t had one of their cards or cpus in a decade, just don’t trust the brand

[fervent jolt]

this must be at least the 10th gpu i've bought in my 25 years of building junk, think it's my third AMD, pretty sure it will be the last one me or anyone within earshot of me ever buys lol.

[median marsh]

the nvidia tax now also applies to correctly displayed mouse cursors 😄

[fervent jolt]

I see people complaining about this bug since about a year ago

Just AMD Things

[celest jungle]

Ok it is D-Day. I have two choices to make: CPU and GPU (for laptop)

CPU:
Ryzen 9 7945HX (16 cores, 32 threads) ~5.4 GHz
vs.
Core i9-13900HX (8 P cores, 16 E-cores, 32 threads total) ~5.4 GHz

GPU: 4080 12 GB vs 4090 16 GB. I suspect that 4090 might not be worth the added cost due to power limiatations. I'll look into that now.

Thoughts?

lmfao

the big Q for me remains the fake 4090 vs fake 4080

I am concerned that the 4090 will be too limited by power

I am choosing the AMD cpu, which gives less room for the gpu to have power

or maybe it's worth choosing the intel if I go 4090 ugh

and actually I need to keep in mind this is based off people reviewing them for actual gaming performance, not unreal engine work

in-editor is another beast so hmmm

probably no power gains with the intel in-editor

[celest jungle]

It does seem that the vram is the only benefit in the end

yeaaah i am hearing very mixed reports about this specific laptop with the amd vs intel cpu

some say the intel is better/cooler

I actually want things t obe efficient and cool so they can like run for a while

legion pro 7

just in case u needed the reference point as it does change things. Each laptop's cooling and chassis and power specs are different so like yeah

I didn't expect u to know what it was

but when u look at benchmarks

thank you for that. That is my kinda concern lmao. I like to be able to have apps assume 16 cores is 32 threads and they all are the same lmfao I dunno I am old

At the same time, I love intel if anything I am an intel fanboy

[celest jungle]

the laptop fake-4090 has 16 GB

the laptop 4090 is not the same as the desktop 4090. it is completely different thing

[fervent jolt]

Yeah well my new 7900 xtx is large enough to break a mouse cursor so there

[median marsh]

i can't believe that the issue is there for an year... that seems so major and "trivial" in the scope of an gpu driver

guess the mousetrail "fixes" it because it switches to software cursor?!

[celest jungle]

AGH ryzen or intel I am like about to click. for some reason I can get the intel cheaper

ok I bought the intel lmfao

saved like $300 so I cna buy more ram

[shrewd pecan]

Recommended pre-builts for dev work? Mostly focused around scripting/programming.

[fresh fog]

I don't think I've ever seen a pre built that hits the criteria for dev work, without it also being around $2000 more expensive than it needs to be

And if you want something for super dev work like a threadripper, even more luck to you

[median marsh]

lenovo has some interesting workstations, tho

[shrewd pecan]

Recommended specs/components then?
Was thinking baseline:
i7
30 series
32 GB Ram
As a minimum

[median marsh]

avoid 4060, otherwise the GPU is mainly a vram/performance/price tradeoff

and for i7 i would say at least 12th gen

[icy tree]

Is the RTX 4060 ti 16gb worth it?

why?

considering I'm using a gtx 1050 ti.......

so what would be better?

considering I'm using a gtx 1050 ti

tell me some nvidia model

lol

i'm just a poor boy

Considering that I want and can afford a 4060ti 16gb, which nvidia option would be better in this price range?

[median marsh]

depends on your requirements

an 3080TI might perform better but has less vram

[icy tree]

What less VRAM will limit me?

[median marsh]

well, it would limit your video memory obviously

so amount/resolution of textures/meshes loaded onto it

which can be a deal breaker when developing

[icy tree]

I want to play the newest games without performance problems with good graphics quality (not necessarily at maximum), and I also want to develop great large levels such as landscapes with high foliage density, or cities with a large amount of props

[median marsh]

then you dont have a choice

[icy tree]

and my budget is more or less the price of an rtx 4060ti 16gb

[median marsh]

well you do

it's 3090 or 4090

[icy tree]

In my country, the price of 3090 is very high, almost 4x the 4060ti 16gb price

:c

[celest jungle]

3060 12 GB (NOT 8!) is a decent card for the money. If you wanna cheap out, go for a deal on a 30 series for sure.

[median marsh]

indeed, but the performance is also questionable... it's more like a compromise if you need the VRAM (which is why i rather suggested the 3080 12GB, which should almost play in the price range of a 4060TI)

[celest jungle]

3080 must be 16 GB I think you typoed.

Yeah true if you don’t need the cuda stuff really there is no reason to go nvidia for value buys.

[median marsh]

what if he has an screen in portrait mode tho? 😄

[celest jungle]

Don’t ask me I took my last ATI card out of service a few months back. From pre-rebrand.

Now I have in service: 980, 3060 12G, 3070

980 is not so much in service as it is installed in an old Core2Duo machine that runs Linux and can’t boot an unreal game because the cpu is too old lmao.

[icy tree]

RTX 4070 12gb, it is worth it?

[icy tree]

.

[celest jungle]

IMO, you either get something that works without lots of performance, or you go all out. When talking about gamedev there is no reason to go in the middle ground and spend more money than you need to.

So ask yourself. Do you just need to be able to make the game, and then performance testing can be done on other machines? In that case go for the best value. ATM, on the nvidia side, I think the 3060 12 GB is the best bang for buck while squeaking in as good enough for UE5. Radeon side has even better value options if u don't care about cuda cores.

Or, do you want the absolute best possible performance so that you can gauge that, or in order to present the project or do anything else that requires highest real-time fidelity? Then yeah u gotta get a 4090 no choice. Don't go in between unless there is a compelling sale or spcial reason or opportunity. my 2 cents.

[median marsh]

I want to play the newest games without performance problems with good graphics quality (not necessarily at maximum), and I also want to develop great large levels such as landscapes with high foliage density, or cities with a large amount of props

[celest jungle]

4080 would prolly work too for that high end need

[median marsh]

this just screams for video memory

[celest jungle]

hence the 12 GB minimum recc lmao

It will work

[median marsh]

nah

[celest jungle]

why not?

[median marsh]

or vulkan is super bad compared to directx... i have a small island with roughly 50 buildings and can't even load all sublevels because it would run out of video memory)

[celest jungle]

thats no't typical

[median marsh]

be aware that in development EVERYTHING is loaded, and not just what is rendered

[celest jungle]

it shouldn't crash/run out of memory unless there is a problem

are you using world partition?

[median marsh]

no

[celest jungle]

exactly

even a 24 GB card will quickly run out of memory

[median marsh]

well it crashes because i'm on linux which doesn't support swapping to host memory... on windows it would do that, which tanks performance a lot

[celest jungle]

that's not the issue

sometimes the editor in windows will still mess up and crash the gpu

it's not perfect. more vram won't solve that

[median marsh]

point is, 12GB videoe memory are filled quick on a non optimized level

[celest jungle]

so is 24 GB

[median marsh]

yea but 24GB gives you way more room to play with

[celest jungle]

24 GB definitely gives you more room

but there are better ways to manage it if budget is a concern

and it will still crash

so you will still have to manage it

[median marsh]

hence the 3090/4090 recommendation is primary because of the video memory, performance wise often a 3070/3080 will do just fine

[celest jungle]

3060 12 GB will do just fine

in all cases

unless you need high performance in large scenes

it will still let you develop those large scenes

tbh 3060 12 GB plays most games at 1080p max settings 60 hz

just fine

3060*

yeah look into that option

i don;t know about those red cards

better dead than red

not u

LMFAO

lmfao

yeah for real tho laura is right if budget is a concern, get the best value radeon card that is comparable to the 3060-ish

hoonestly 3060 is friggin fine lmao

in my experience, since the 3060 is still a "new" sku it hasn't been replaced yet, you can get great deals on it new compared to 40 series

or there are a TON of 3060 ex mining gpus out there still

well maybe not still but a year ago there was. The sellers didn't want to flood the market so they would trickle them in on fb marketplace and stuff

it was wild to watch lmao

u could meet up with someone at a momen'ts notice and get a 30 series card at a gas station for a couple hundred bucks

[quick grove]

hello guys. they didnt display the height but it said it can fit in 12 HDD stacking up

but they didnt fully display the height. is the height really tall?

[quick grove]

but now that i think about it, i dont think people really need 12 HDD slots
anyone here uses 12 HDD slots?

sorry i talk too much 😦 im just lost. sorry sorry 🙏

[median marsh]

no sane person would put 12 hard disks in that case

that's why it's "gaming"

[quick grove]

yea. no one uses HDD anyway. And SDD just 3-4 will be enough

you're right hahaha

thanks btw!

you kinda saved me 150 bucks

[gaunt carbon]

Some scenes take ages to load, esp on first startup
I have 16GB ram
8GB vram on the rtx 3070
Ryzen 7 5800 processor

Any budget suggestions for upgrade? This sc is under load when loading scenes

[median marsh]

so it is compiling shaders? you can only beat that with more cores

[agile lodge]

well https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/gaming-cases/proart/proart-pa602/ asus proArt for creator

[median marsh]

yea, but with 4.6GHz they are already pretty quick

a budget option would be getting an used 5950x

still, that cpu isn't super old

all his cores are clocked to max speed in the screenshot, which indicates 100% load on them

[gaunt carbon]

ye mb

ye imma try ty

During load or idle?

so I upgrade to 32?

2 x 8

wouldnt that overdo it?

oh damn wtf

do I need to match the mhz speed with the 2x8?

[median marsh]

you can buy faster ones

still chances are that in total they will clock slower (my experience with matching different sets while still having dual channel)

[gaunt carbon]

Should I put the 2x16 in 1-3 / 2-4 or does it not matter if all slots are occupied?

[agile lodge]

128GB

[median marsh]

just dont buy GSkill 😄

[gaunt carbon]

Can a ram hardware failure corrupt my ue project?

ok will upgrade after release

XD

call me a maniac, but I dont use source control

slows down my pc too much

P4v did quite a number

on ue5, not ue4 somehow

do you recommend git?

I want something with easy UI

preferrably

ah

mod inc

projects are only 6 months so I'm taking the risk

and the extra ssd space

If my pc crashes in a few months due to ram I'll come by again

[median marsh]

incremental backups are better than nothing

[gaunt carbon]

If my pc corrupts b4 release I'll give you a free steam key

of the game that got postponed bc someone didnt use source control x)

[slender shell]

this feels good 😆 Use to take 1.5 hours on my 5900x. Building 5.3 on 7970x
========== Rebuild completed at 6:57 AM and took 11:33.115 minutes ==========

[median marsh]

rebuild != build

[slender shell]

isn't rebuild a clean and build?

[fresh fog]

I hope you aren't rebuilding everytime 👀

[median marsh]

i'm glad that you are around to fix all the BS that i assume xD

[limpid wave]

hey have someone tested DDR5 ram vs DDR4 ram for Unreal and Blender?

hmmm the more I see the more i notice that it's not proven that DDR5 speed increase gives you a significant boost versus DDR4...

specifically on 3D modelling or rendering heavy workloads

well in my country (France) for prebuilts the price difference is crazy

why please? could you elaborate?

ytes i know that but I could pick either one of those

well my biggest problem would be paying multiple times and that's (maybe I'm just dumb at looking) only possible if i buy a prebuilt

because honestly I would likely built it myself if I could

well I would have a budget of around 1500€, can I built something in pc partpicker and asking pour opinion, because well like you said prebuilt sucks and I would like to avoid it if possible and I'll look into more options if i can pay multiple times

yes exactly like a payment in x12 times would be the best

but to be honest I never did it before....

I'm buying a new one from scratch because my old laptop died and I need one and was planning to upgrade anyway...

that was my initial plan and I already planned to do exactly that, but well my PC died suddenly, it was the board and more precisely I owned a laptop. So the problem is that I would need a pc relatively fast... so well paying multiple times would be my only viable and I really hate to do it... Right now I use the PC of my sister.

yeah it works with the barebone parts already tried that too on an firends pc

I saw that it only lets it pay 4 times and not x12 but maybe I'm just bad at looking

that would be roughly something that i would like to do https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/rb6G28

versus that one prebuilt https://www.amazon.fr/Megaport-système-dexploitation-Centrale-Ordinateur/dp/B0CKLD5112/ref=sr_1_7?__mk_fr_FR=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=2U8NUFQ3RLLWG&keywords=pc%2Bgamer%2B4070%2Bryzen&qid=1703717430&refinements=p_36%3A100000-160000&rnid=9733298031&sprefix=pc%2Bgamer%2B4070%2Bryzen%2Caps%2C126&sr=8-7&th=1

not only but mainly it would also include Blender, Video editing, some light gaming, and coding

well that's why i used only two kits of 4 , if I would need the 64 gig i would upgrade two months from now

650 Watt AZZA PSAZ (80+ Bronze) that bronze powersupply is shuddering to me of the prebuilt one

really? oh okay i could include 64 gig of ram but it would be a bit more pricey but thanks for the tip

no

[fallen oasis]

I think that PSU needs more Zs in the name.

[limpid wave]

lol

[fallen oasis]

It's like, the more zs you put one plzzzzzzzzzzzz the more impactful it is, right?

[limpid wave]

so swapping the ram would be around the same price as the prebuilt one

but why is 64 gig of ram so important? I used with my laptop a mere 16 and it.... worked, so I thought that 32 gig would be plenty enough

[fallen oasis]

16gb is fine if you want to make pacman. In basic.

[limpid wave]

true

[spark minnow]

i just bought 64 gb ram today 😄

[agile lodge]

if you want nas like think you may think https://45homelab.com/ hl15

[limpid wave]

so should I lower my CPU? or just going for 64 gigs of ram

well to be honest being in Unrela will be my main activity and gaming would be like old games and such so I shouldn't need to worry about that (FF14 for example)

is the 64 gig of ram really spend on just Unreal and not like opening blender , substance painter and such? Because i never run into an actual scenario that would need more then like around 24 gigs of ram

an overall cheaper build CPU wise?

[limpid wave]

humm well okay you convinced me thanks!

[quick grove]

Hi guys, what anti virus would you guys recommend? All of them are soo pricey so I wanna be careful

[plush turret]

so not pc related, but is there a known issue with android where every image in gallery is apparently perm resized into a 1:1 image? for like 2 weeks now every thing i download is squished into 1:1

[plush turret]

i have had very good experience with webroot

doesnt get annoying about updates or try and bloatware anything. and if you find anything that shouldnt be on your drive it can quarantine the file and if you want format it. its also really low impact even when doing a "deep scan"

[plush turret]

ok so checked, it happened starting on the 20th and every downloaded image is resized to 800x500 pixel not 1:1
doesnt occur to photos taken on the phone nore to screenshots

[quick grove]

AHH okok. Thankss!

[plush turret]

fyi by "format it" it does that to the specific file, not just "delete" it removes any trace from the system

you can also customize alerts to be popup, sound, or "when you check"

it also ties into most web browsers and can tell you how reputable a site is and is really good at stopping those "your an idiot to click download" files from like adf.ly and such

[quick grove]

ohh ok. ty for that warning 😄

i will try be careful

[plush turret]

The program calls it "permanently erase with webroot" and it makes the file impossible to recover

[worldly wharf]

Sup bros. all the tutorials i gone thru have cpu cooler and have fans put infront of the processor with the thermal paste. is it necessary? i didnt use this back then but that was like 8-9 years ago

[fading idol]

your question isn't clear
thermal paste IS necessary

[fallen oasis]

It's always been necessary

Well, the last 30 years at least.

[worldly wharf]

my bad. i dont remember putting it on my old pc but i just opened it and it does have the cpu cooler.

guess i should run back to the store and buy that lol. There's also an AIO cooler, which one is better?

[fallen oasis]

There are chips that don't need them, but you won't find them in your desktop pc 😛

AIO is a bit much unless you're overclocking or running the latest AMDs.

[worldly wharf]

not sure if its the latest but mine is ryzen 5 7600. is it ok?

[median marsh]

check the package of your current cpu cooler, eventually it comes with thermal paste

[worldly wharf]

aight. i will check for this once i shop for cpu cooler later

[median marsh]

wait, you didn't even buy a cooler?

[worldly wharf]

yea LOL i'm dumb. i forgot that was a thing. Then when i look up the youtube build a pc tutorial, it needs a cooler.

[median marsh]

yea, get one

[worldly wharf]

yea. but in the tutorials, there's also AIO. CPU cooler is enough right?

[median marsh]

yes

[worldly wharf]

aight thanks bro

[worldly wharf]

hey bro, in the tutorials, there's also a heat sink for nvme m2 ssd. do i need those actually? i googled it but 50/50 says its a must and some say its not

it didnt came with my PC though

before i go to the shop to buy the cpu cooler, i just want to make sure i get everything i need lol

[median marsh]

i would add one, doesnt need to be fancy, just a passive one without a fan

[worldly wharf]

aight thanks bro

[plush turret]

the noctua u12s isnt that pricey, and isnt very loud either

[median marsh]

way too expensive imho

[plush turret]

its $55 on amazon...

[agile lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/noctua-fan-noctuafan-gif-24134135

[devout pendant]

what's a good pc build that runs unreal fast and without problems?

[median marsh]

entry level recommendations for dev work with unreal editor

CPU

• Intel: i7 12th Generation or newer

• AMD: Ryzen7 5800 or newer

• Core Count: CPU should have at least 8 Cores (16+ Threads)
  more Cores/Threads speed up parallel tasks like C++ compiling, Shader Compilation, CPU Lightbaking

Memory (RAM)

32GB or more

• additional notes for C++ users:
  each compiler thread should have at least 2GB memory available + some reserve for OS/applications/unreal, usually you want 64GB+ on a 16 threads CPU for optimal CPU usage, also keep in mind that your IDE might need up to 8GB memory!

GPU

• 3060 (non ti) with 12GB video memory (VRAM) is a good budget card
• more VRAM may be necessary for complex scenes with a lot of high resolution textures

Storage

SSD! Ideally M2 NVME
reserve around 1-2TB for Unreal, depending on the amount of owned Assets (note: engine source builds take up to 250GB or more)

Laptops

same requirements apply.
keep in mind that the GPU/CPU counterparts are usually weaker than the desktop variant, a desktop Workstation should always be preferred since Laptops aren't made for heavy workloads over several hours.

last but not least

Hardware requirements are individual, your project and what kind of software you need/want to run in parallel may require more or less resources (e.g. running a 3D Modelling Software parallel to UE might bump the requirements for RAM and VRAM)

A simple low poly Game can be developed on a "weaker" machine, while a complex/fancy 3D game will require more resources.

If you just start learning Unreal and already have a computer which is able to run the Editor the recommendation is to stick to it while learning the basics and upgrade when necessary. (at that point you should already have an idea of what specs you may need)

The post after this will list a few Hardware examples, jump to this post and scroll down to view it.

User Configurations:

Low Poly Games:

• Ryzen 5 2600, AMD RX 580, 16GB RAM
• Ryzen 5 2400G, AMD Radeon Vega 11, 16GB RAM

[median marsh]

updated that passage (i'm also open to grammar/spelling fixes...) just repost this with fixes

[opaque pond]

i only tick the ram checkbox

lol

[violet spade]

Those RAM specs are outdated

32GB is nowhere near enough for 5.3

[median marsh]

you can get away with 850W but if you buy a new one get the size that is recommended for the GPU by the brand (iirc Laura runs a power limited 4090 with 850W)

they usually calculate in some extra peripherial, so you may end up a bit oversized but on the safe side

how did we end up in the same boat regarding PSU recommendations? 😄

my guess is 5-10% (from the powerlimit charts i've seen)

1kW should be totally fine

as long as it's from a serious brand

^^

[dull token]

I tick none of those 🔥

[median marsh]

you tick the "it's possible to develop on weaker machines"

[dull token]

I suppose so

that might just be worse than my pc

oh my

[median marsh]

i did my first year on a 3rd gen i7 with 16GB (later 48) and a 1660 with 6GB...

sure you can get started on low ass hardware, but the difference was quite noticable (and necessary at some point)

[dull token]

nah I do lowpoly, make games optimized for shittier pc's

[median marsh]

yea don't get confused by the recommendations then

[dull token]

I got a low-mid pc, if I cant run it then its not optimised well

[median marsh]

but that post is geared towards the folk which shows up here and wants to make city sample projects...

[fresh fog]

What's the latest line of Corsair RMx like?
I remember they used to be quite good, but I heard concerns of quality dropping a while back

[dull token]

yeah I figured

[median marsh]

@dull token mind to share your specs, eventually i will add some as example at the end of the post?!

[dull token]

alright

[median marsh]

cpu/memory/gpu is probably the most important

[dull token]

but dont be scared for my wellbeing (specifically that my pc explodes while working)

[fresh fog]

FWIW I'm doing quite well for my target of games, (lowpoly, relatively simple) on a Ryzen 5 2600, RX 580, and 16GB RAM.
Haven't tested UE5 on it yet on my personal machine though

[median marsh]

so you are still using UE4?

[fresh fog]

I'm sure I could get it fine if I followed the pin in #ue4-general

yeah, sadly

(only because I'm running out of SSD for another engine version :P)

[median marsh]

yea Laura wrote a good heads up of what's necessary to turn UE5 "into" UE4

[fresh fog]

Yup, it's the main reason I'm considering an upgrade

Especially since I quite want to run a source build at some point

[dull token]

Ram: 16GB
Processor: Ryzen 5 2400G
Graphics Card: AMD Radeon Vega 11

[median marsh]

are compile times bothering you ACuppaTea?

[median marsh]

is your project BP only, or also C++?

[dull token]

both

[median marsh]

how about compile times? bearable or annoying af?

[dull token]

its a prebuilt relatively budget pc from 2019

[dull token]

well you see, I havent used C++ yet..

but for Blueprints compile times are perfectly fine

[fresh fog]

My C++ compile times are bearable.
I imagine working on any large system it might get to be rather annoying however

Packaging times are very annoying

[dull token]

bro you got better specs than me

i think

[fresh fog]

I'm surprised you can run that on integrated graphics tbh.
though I do know AMD's iGPU's have always been a bit better than intel

[dull token]

i am suprised you are suprised

I am aware my specs are rather dissapointing

but like it works jsut fine honestly

I use UE5

[fresh fog]

I just know how hungry the engine is.
It hurts my poor RX 580 sometimes :P

Unreal is like the VRAM monster from hell

[fresh fog]

That's reassuring to hear

That's even more reassuring :P

I would run DX11, but Nanite looks interesting (on UE5)

[dull token]

Nanite is counterproductive for Low Poly

[fresh fog]

Lumen looks nice too, but that's a pipe dream 😆

[fresh fog]

It depends, I've seen ti able to hold it's own there in some circumstances

[dull token]

it just slows dont my game

and it makes sense

its not designed for low poly

[median marsh]

will they still not able to when you release?

e.g. if you target a release in 2 years, it's likely that many updated

have you tried... vulkan? 😛

[plush turret]

also the cards most prebuilds in the budget range or best buy/walmart stock would hold without being 4090 price levels

custom building is actually pretty rare still compared to the actual steam user base

[opaque pond]

like what would be the ideal ue5 build also taking in consideration a somewhat strict budget?

[median marsh]

a threadripper with 4090 if it's a strict budget of ~$5000?