#career-chat

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woeful iron
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which has companies per country

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not always up to date though

marble flicker
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Where do you guys look for game-dev jobs, what websites?

white steppe
marble flicker
white steppe
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True, I am. Also a level designer

marble flicker
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So a more tangible and marketable skill than what I have...

woeful iron
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should've just become a programmer smh

marble flicker
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I've been called an idea guy a lot before.

white steppe
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Then you could be a level/game designer

marble flicker
# white steppe Then you could be a level/game designer

I also do game-design, but haven't worked with engines much. Did Unity balancing through in-engine sliders and values. Mostly designing on paper and doing calculations, then running iterations. But I doubt anyone needs a paper game-designer for their Unreal projects.

woeful iron
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there's plenty of idea guys

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hard to stand out

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especially if you have no experience

marble flicker
white steppe
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Game engines are tools. If you can do it on paper, you must be able to do it in game engines.

marble flicker
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Worked with Articy as well.

woeful iron
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as game designer you would definigely need some bp experience indeed

white steppe
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It used to have lots of full remote jobs in the last 3 years, but now most of the studios want you to get onsite unfortunately.

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Or at least, hybrid.

marble flicker
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What are other popular webistes other than LinkedIn?

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Doesn't have to be full remote, just so I could apply somewhere.

woeful iron
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check sites of companies you know

marble flicker
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Okay, thanks everyone, hopefully that lands me at least an interview.

lime cobalt
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Linkeding is bad for manual job search. Their search engine gives mostly irrelevant results

marble flicker
jagged magnet
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anybody know how to find the standard pay for entry level gameplay/engine programmers is? I'm trying to start working at Epic Games at their HQ in Cary, NC, but the information I've found online so far is super vague and/or inconsistent

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or if there are any industry devs who are willing to share their salary or what I can expect, I'd really appreciate it

woeful iron
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Glassdoor could also give an indication

jagged magnet
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I've been checking the site, but where are the salaray ranges?

jagged magnet
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oh I see

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It wasn't on the ones I'm applying for unfortunately

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but that's good to know

woeful iron
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well I guess you'll see what they offer you if you get to that point

small marsh
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As an aspiring unreal dev, what are the effects of the unity thingy? More studios hiring unreal devs? More people learning unreal, meaning more competition? Idk

pastel estuary
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we have seen a big influx of new members since the news dropped.

white steppe
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The salary in Epic looks insane...But I guess the cost there is also super high though

wintry forum
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do software devs not working in gaming enjoy their job?

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For me, working on something that doesn't have a beautiful visual output sounds like hell

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So I always wonder how these folks work for some company like TikTok

white steppe
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TikTok is not the worst, how about banking system?

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So it really depends.

wary idol
white steppe
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Just find out what you really want to do and each person has different favorites. I do like to make something and give you the visual feedback then you know the direction to polish. It feels more gameplay side rather than engineering.

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Lots of direction of software engineering though

brave forge
spice dagger
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Its certainly the problem solving aspect for me as well.

brave forge
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I tend to find joy in whatever problem i'm solving, whether that be optimising a build process, solving network replication issues, or making anything else

spice dagger
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The hit I get when I have a eureka moment or something just works and its solution is elegant... its so good.

wintry forum
wary idol
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I've been doing a lot of non UE stuff that I've never done before, knew how to do it in theory but actually implementing it for the first time and somehow having it work on the first try has been pretty rewarding 😅
It's a good feeling lol

brave forge
wintry forum
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Got it. Thanks for the insights fellas 🙂

spice dagger
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Personally I would probably find it harder to enjoy the work if it wasn't tied to games.

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When I say that in that way, its not like I feel I would hate the job everyday.

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I feel its just more rewarding when you can play a game you helped create in some way.

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Given that im a gamer.

brave forge
# wintry forum But would you like it as much if it was not connected to games?

Here's a middle ground for you from a programmers/team lead perspective:

i've also worked with UE in an advertising context. I was solving data problems for product configurators, making a data pipeline from CAD to UE, and trying to render highest resolution CAD exports possible. Making this look great and interactive, adding all sorts of interactivity and linking up to other systems for pricing etc (this part is not much different to a leaderboard really). It wasn't games, you don't play it at the end, but it's the EXACT same kind of problems you'd work on in games.

Would this change your enjoyment of the job?

torpid spruce
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hi

wary idol
wintry forum
torpid spruce
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Do u guys know jhon wick chapter 4 top down shooting concept was taken from whih game?

spice dagger
brave forge
wintry forum
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My question was more for like: people who make stock trading bots for hedge funds or brain rotting tiktok algorithms lol

spice dagger
brave forge
spice dagger
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So Im not sure how I feel I would go in a role like that.

brave forge
spice dagger
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Ive always enjoyed being on small teams.

brave forge
wary idol
spice dagger
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Gameplay and Networking for me

brave forge
spice dagger
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Im not much of a tools, engine or rendering guy

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I know enough Slate to get me by for perf concious gameplay elements lol

wary idol
brave forge
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That's the other benefit of small teams. You can't really avoid touching a lot of stuff.

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always something new to work on

wary idol
spice dagger
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It can get annoying sometimes when its tedious and you know someone else (if only they were hired) can manage it for a better result.

spice dagger
brave forge
brave forge
wintry forum
spice dagger
wary idol
# wintry forum what did you study?

Self thought, finished something like electrical "engineering" (don't know what's the correct translation in English) thing but didn't go to college

spice dagger
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Phasor Diagrams

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Woo hoo

wintry forum
wary idol
spice dagger
wintry forum
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It sucks that being self taught and getting a job mostly only works in Western countries

wary idol
spice dagger
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Im in AU and work for US remotely as well

wintry forum
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I have been rejected for many remote positions because my country isn't preferred

spice dagger
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Experience speaks for itself

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If you can show above average competency over other candidates your location is less of a concern in my experience.

wintry forum
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that's why I decided to go to college in Canada

wary idol
wintry forum
spice dagger
wary idol
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We have quite a bit in common 😅

spice dagger
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Im wondering now if you are just me, but Blue?

white steppe
wary idol
spice dagger
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Timezones can be a pain

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But people make it work

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At least in small teams

wintry forum
spice dagger
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Do you need a VISA if you are a contractor?

white steppe
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Working remotely doesn't matter if you getting visa or not?

wintry forum
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Well, I was told that reason for remote positions as well so

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God knows

white steppe
spice dagger
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Probably just wanted an excuse not to hire you 🤷

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I contract, I dont have a VISA

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🤷

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Im not an employee of their company

wintry forum
spice dagger
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So its all good i guess.

brave forge
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yeah visa is only required for travel/relocation

spice dagger
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Makes sense

white steppe
spice dagger
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Having that separation makes stuff so much easier on many levels

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Tax and accounting for one

wintry forum
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also I'm entry level, so even if it was listed as remote, they would likely want me on site sooner or later

white steppe
# wintry forum .

If it is a small team, then won't be this kinda things, even no person just doing HR, lol

white steppe
wary idol
# spice dagger Sounds like you and I had similar paths lol

So I basically got interested in 3d modelling when I was like 9, saw a random video on TV of someone animating a character
My dad somehow found blender and pretty much from that point my interest in game dev and programming stayed lol

When I was like 10 I discovered unity and started learning C#, a bit later C++ (alongside 3d modelling at the time)
Then had a weird phase of wanting to do movie VFX stuff, then started using UE4 in late 2014 (I was 14), soon after started using C++ with UE4, started working on my hobby project in like late 2015, released a demo after
Sold the vehicle AI I used in it on the MP, realized UE4 vehicles were awful at the time, decided to do my own and sold it as well, in 2018-2019 (iirc) accepted the job I'm still at, after rejecting like 20 different offers before it 😅

spice dagger
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My interest in game dev started from making mods to all the original COD games.

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COD1, 2, the original MW

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Then went to Unity

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Worked in that for a little doing mobile crap

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Then moved to Unreal

wintry forum
spice dagger
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I did do a little bit with the XNA framework ages ago

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But only briefly

wary idol
spice dagger
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First game I played was the original Diablo

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I was hooked from then on lol

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Games was where I was going

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Even though im certified in electrical engineering as well

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I did that just to have something to fall back on

wary idol
white steppe
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First game I played is wolfstein3d!

brave forge
wintry forum
spice dagger
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You never know what might happen or not work out how you intended

wintry forum
spice dagger
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I havent worked in electrical for over a decade now

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lol

wary idol
spice dagger
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Same

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I wasnt really using them to get a job, they were my job at the time.

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Then a job just came to me

wary idol
spice dagger
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Nice

wintry forum
wary idol
spice dagger
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I was apprehensive about my skills as a programmer after highschool, so decided to do something else first to ensure I had options incase gamedev didnt work out.

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I dont regret that

wintry forum
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makes sense

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Btw @wary idol I am studying Movie VFX

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since you mentioned it too 😄

wary idol
spice dagger
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Imposter syndrome is real

brave forge
wintry forum
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6 freaking months

spice dagger
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Sometimes when its bad for me I feel like I get paid to much for (what I think is) garbage work.

wary idol
spice dagger
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Then in a meeting I get endless praise for the work I do

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Its so confusing man haha

brave forge
wintry forum
wary idol
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lol

spice dagger
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I have a young family and I can easily lose myself in work

wintry forum
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I don't know why impostor syndrome is a thing lol

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If you're getting paid then stfu lol

brave forge
# wintry forum I don't know why impostor syndrome is a thing lol

It's because it's hard to quantify the work. You do tend to work a bit solo, but you see every other team members wins, or worse, see all these other game devs showing stuff off on social media and you compare yourself to the wins, not the day to day struggles everyone else has too

wary idol
brave forge
wintry forum
wintry forum
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but I don't know

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maybe if someone has x years of exp

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and sees someone with same x years of exp doing cool shit

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that might make them doubt themselves

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but then again

wintry forum
spice dagger
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This industry is a competitive environment, its very easy to compare yourself and your work to others.

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The trick is trying to avoid that and do the best you can.

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However it is healthy to keep an eye on what others are doing.

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You may learn something you didnt expect.

brave forge
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that's the hard part. Learning involves sharing and seeing other peoples stuff. But then you only see all this amazing stuff other people do

spice dagger
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I think its a lesson that applies to life in general.

brave forge
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Also tech in general advances VERY fast, so you are CONSTANTLY learning. Regardless of years of experience. You never fully get comfortable. Skills that you learned might not be relevant in just a few years. That puts a constant pressure on you to improve

spice dagger
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Avoid comparing yourself to others to much, only to who you were yesterday.

wintry forum
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Yeah

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and smell some cash from time to time

brave forge
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(also they tend to love ex-game programmers for the performance focused mindset)

wintry forum
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I don't work in stock trading

brave forge
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no but you asked if people who do that sort of programming hate the jobs

wintry forum
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yeah

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it depends

white steppe
brave forge
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also very challenging problems to work on

wintry forum
white steppe
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The other general software engineering which I don't feel fun was not implementing it. The problem is you need to solve the issue and keep maintenance it. That is boring. But games are different even you are doing the same job like AI or combat programming.

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Different games have different challenges.

wintry forum
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Yeah but you're contributing to the game

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not some algorithm to rot kids' brains

white steppe
wintry forum
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I don't know, doesn't sound fulfilling to me

brave forge
wintry forum
brave forge
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the OPTIMAL amount of pay2win MTX

wintry forum
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I mean, c'mon, tiktok is not angry birds though

brave forge
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Anyway, enough procrastination. I'm off, good chat

wintry forum
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likewise

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gotta cook dinner

white steppe
icy sluice
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Hi. Im looking for a bootcamp, masterclass o intense curse to prepare c++ certificate. Anyone can reference me? Thanks

chilly sundial
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C++ certificates are complete shams

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No one recognizes them and you can learn all the content by yourself

icy sluice
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Im not totally agree. My last boss, prefer people Witch certificate o FP. He seid people with a university degree had touched less code and came out less prepared for the mud

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I don't know if it's a particularity or something general

round radish
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He's not wrong about university people. That doesn't mean everyone agrees with him about certificates, though.

chilly sundial
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Cybersecurity is really big on its certificates

hard shuttle
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Hey guys!
Question, what happened with the freelance jobs in generaly, that now its much more difficulty to get jobs than 2 years ago? Im unreal generalist (Environment, optimization, lighting etc..),
and i dont know if its only me, but 2 years ago i could get a lot jobs so easly, and nowadays its being difficulty, few jobs only to apply and then they dont give you a response.

brave forge
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Really. Tech seemed to boom during the pandemic

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Especially us and aus

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It's been a general downturn this year though

hard shuttle
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mhh 2021 was not good for me neither, but just after, end of 2021 and beggining of 2022. was very good to get new jobs

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and now i just working for the those old clients i got, thankfully.
But difficulty to get new ones

woeful iron
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you need to find the space to store those jets as well

wary idol
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||you have to store those jets somewhere||

hard shuttle
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do you guys use another approach to get new clients? like another platform, or maybe use google ads for your website portfolio

wary idol
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||cry||

fervent palm
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Do clients give you like references to go off for like any modelling work they want doing

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That’s what I’ve been doing recently with blender

shut token
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If you're talking about freelance work - you set your own requirements. If you require that they provide them, then, yes. If not, depends.

twin warren
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In the current market, is there any point in applying if the job says "required experience" with something that you don't have experience with?

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I only see C#/ASP.Net/SQL jobs, and I just feel like even if I do a project to teach myself the tools, they won't care because it wasn't done at a job.

royal lintel
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If a posting is specifically looking for C#, in a position where you would absolutely be using C#, then yes - you should know C#.
Advice around ignoring "required experience" is generally for ignoring specific lengths of time as long as you're reasonably confident in your ability to work in that role. But if a job is for a senior backend engineer on tech that very specifically uses C# and you've never touched it in your life, no.

twin warren
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Also, "Professional Experience" means W-2 right? Projects or freelance are literally worthless, right?

royal lintel
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They're not looking for a W-2 specifically. They're looking for you having worked for an actual company, what that means depends on what you can sell yourself on.

twin warren
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Sorry, that's what I meant

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I am realizing that "just have projects and a degree" was horseshit and now I have no direction

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I am seriously considering MS in math --> BS in T10 for CS --> internship --> FAANG

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and just spending the rest of my 20s preparing to start my life 🙃

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I just wish there were an objective source to listen to that could just tell me whether I should apply or go back to school for the MS and BS

fervent palm
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Yh but the thing with internships is do you actually learn something because my lecturer said you clearly don’t and that all you’re doing is serving them teas and learning jack shit

twin warren
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Does it matter if I'm applying everywhere?

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I would just do the masters degree to get into a top ten school for CS, which would be for the internship and name recognition

twin warren
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another country? I'm US

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I don't have a good enough GPA as-is to get into a T10

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it's expensive, but that's just how the US is

chilly sundial
twin warren
chilly sundial
twin warren
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I feel like I would be considered qualified two years ago, but now my plan to go back to college is a complete waste

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And if I go back to get a masters, by the time I'm done, most people will have masters degrees, and the goalposts will just keep moving forward

chilly sundial
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Me too

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From what I gather the difference in pay between a master's and that extra year in industry is basically the same.

One of them makes it easier to get another job too, and it ain't the masters :P

royal lintel
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Where the hell are college level engineering internships making you serve drinks

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That's just straight up false

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and any company doing that isn't worth working for in the first place

fervent palm
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@charred sentinel that’s just my perspective on them

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@royal lintel that’s what I’ve been told by my games lecturer before I left

royal lintel
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Yeah, that's false.

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I don't know what kind of weird experience they had but no company worth their salt is doing that.

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None of the top (FAANG-level) or even "mid-tier" companies do anything remotely like that. Maybe some tiny studios or other software outlets that don't know what they're doing might.
Why would any company want to pay you to basically do nothing?

light veldt
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Seems like it would be a very disrespectful culture. Maybe activision blizzard? 😂 (in all seriousness, not even them)

royal lintel
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I know for a fact that ATVI doesn't do that, yeah

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None of the big studios would, it'd be a complete waste of money and time.

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The whole goal on the side of the company is for it to be a pipeline for training people coming out of college, making them want to work for you, and maybe get some extra work out of it from the really good recruits.
Making someone bring their manager coffee or something is antithetical to all of the above and sounds like a single power-tripping manager whose only experience with interns is the stereotypes they see about finance in movies.

light veldt
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Could also be some weird culture shit in another country? But in the US that’d be pretty crazy

fervent palm
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Yh im from the UK

chilly sundial
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I am too

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I haven't seen a single internship that is like that

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And I've applied to, and looked at quite a lot

fervent palm
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Where abouts in the UK though

chilly sundial
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Up north, England but I did look into a fair few all across the country

twin warren
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🤷‍♂️ The cost of best-in-the-world education

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Ehh, hard to say

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Our best universities are way better than top universities everywhere else; universities like the one I went to might be on par with others

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True

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I don't know though, the idea of free college just feels wrong imo

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but I'm glad it worked for you

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🤷‍♂️ We reward hard work here

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Work hard, get scholarships

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I just wish I had been one of those hard working people when I was 18

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OpenAI has entry-level roles at $240 000 💀

ivory echo
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Yeah and ChatGPT gets dumber every day

twin warren
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You right tho

ivory echo
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Now if I ask it to write me a cover letter it does it in markdown

twin warren
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Is a VR game with MAUs enough of a portfolio for something entry-level?

small marsh
twin warren
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You had a friend who worked there?

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Must be different market conditions

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It's a million times harder now

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Worse than in 2009

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true

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I swore that I nailed that interview

chilly sundial
twin warren
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Fun fact: there's another opening for Web Dev at the main campus. I asked my interviewer if he'd email the equivalent guy and say "yeah we didn't pick this guy but he came close"....he said no.

chilly sundial
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That's not a fun fact at all D:

twin warren
chilly sundial
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I feel scammed and deceived. Which good news, makes you perfect for a position in a web3 startup :D

twin warren
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This job market is going to age me into a centenarian oil baron

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And I wouldn't even get to be Adam Driver 😡

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Our top universities are generally free for households making under $150 000

chilly sundial
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Americans when they have to spend 12 million dollars for a piece of paper: 😔

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Seriously why is university so hyper inflated over there

twin warren
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Actual answer? Federal loans can't be discharged in bankruptcy and there has been no policing of tuition and fees. Universities keep bumping their prices up because they know they're guaranteed to get a return

chilly sundial
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Damn

twin warren
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We had a guy run for president and told us he'd relieve some debt with no strings attached

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He won, didn't do it

chilly sundial
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Tbf even UK universities are very profit driven and they're not that bad.

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Eh there is government mandated maximum

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Native students aren't allowed to pay more than 9,250 a year

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No. The cap was introduced in 2017 and hasn't changed since

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Student loan repayments also aren't absolutely crippling over here

twin warren
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In the US we have this thing called community college, where anyone can go. The students do worse than students at other institutions. That's why I have to imagine that free college just doesn't work

chilly sundial
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Averages at like £5-£15 a month

twin warren
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Valid

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I mean on a macro scale

mystic cloud
chilly sundial
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So when will you get paid in full fighter jets. I imagine it would save your employer's a bit too by not having to saw them in half

mystic cloud
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i tried to offer a full jet

twin warren
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That is wild. I've never seen anything broadly available that was quality

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I mean I believe you, it just feels weird

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Yeah, tbh when I turn 26 I have no idea what I'm doing for health insurance if I don't get a job by then.

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But stuff like that does motivate people

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Once you get a few YoE at decent places, you'll always find an employer who provides you with healthcare

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It prevents people from getting comfy working fast food jobs

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I do know a lot of people who are 20-ish and have medical debt that has ruined their credit tho

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That last part, not so much 😆

chilly sundial
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Want to live? Too bad, cough up the funds buttercup.

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That's another US quirk I hate

nova coyote
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A healthcare is better then none 😄

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small steps america, you can do it ✊

mystic cloud
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US is such a weird place

twin warren
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Tbf Obamacare would have been very close to universal healthcare if the republicans didn't gut it in the senate

fervent palm
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Plus the US are angry fuckers get pissed so easily it’s funny

mystic cloud
mystic cloud
twin warren
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Then you get healthcare, enough to save for retirement, good office environments, etc

nova coyote
mystic cloud
twin warren
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It's extremely binary. The safe places are pristine

twin warren
nova coyote
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ah that explains it then

nova coyote
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not great but bad apples are not as common as in the US i think. at least that's what i hear from my america and english friends

mystic cloud
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Cant say I have enough life experience to survive far away, in a culture I am alien though

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so my first country should be the one I'll be able to survive as a programmer without tons of BS

nova coyote
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it might be a nice place to live retire in tho

mystic cloud
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dw 'bout that sobglasses

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Turkey is more difficult to live in any country I could list

nova coyote
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try algeria my friend :)

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you wont find a job and if you somehow do you wont live off it

mystic cloud
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I'd visit Algeria for trip but its too warm for me to survive there at summer

nova coyote
mystic cloud
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at night? ofc not a big deal

twin warren
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If we're playing "it could always be worse", I remember seeing pictures of grocery trips from Argentina. Food expensive, wages bad

mystic cloud
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Turkey is a bit more better Argentina

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but worse justice system

nova coyote
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you win 🥳 here's your prize 🍪

twin warren
mystic cloud
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meh, a cookie?

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not even a laurahourlyrate

nova coyote
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lmao, what?

mystic cloud
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I think South Korea is around the same when it comes to that

twin warren
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You know, I don't know if it's healthy, but shitting on places that have it worse makes me feel a little better about where I'm at rn

mystic cloud
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but I just want to see the nature sad

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and live around it

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and walk safe at nights

nova coyote
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what could've incentivised you to make that emote lol

mystic cloud
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you mean the :laurahourlyrate:?

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Laura's hourly rate ofc

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what else could be

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1/2 of Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II™️

nova coyote
mystic cloud
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Not Laura, her jets

twin warren
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Does pay alternate in left and right halves?

nova coyote
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she should be getting a 9K720 Iskander instead

mystic cloud
twin warren
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Fractional halves for prorating? Where do the fractional parts come from?

mystic cloud
twin warren
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Cost of combining parts to make whole jets?

mystic cloud
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a half jet cant bomb you

nova coyote
mystic cloud
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**price of ** 1/2 of Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II™️ = Laura's min hourly rate

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which evaluates to 35 millions of USD by 2021

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with infliation its more probably

nova coyote
mystic cloud
twin warren
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Why would a job post say they want someone with 2 YoE but also pursuing a degree?

hardy solar
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Hi all. I have this amazing Udemy UE4 course, is the knowledge tranferable to UE5?

brave forge
white steppe
#

Hmmm, for me, the biggest change is lighting.

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For gameplay side, not that much

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Unless you wanna try their new modular game design AKA gameplay features and etc.

brave forge
#

lighting only really changes if you use lumen though

white steppe
#

However, it is still buggy

brave forge
#

true, but if they don't want to buy another course, it'll still be a decent starting point (assuming it's actually a good course)

white steppe
brave forge
#

most things could tbh. Unreal is deep!

white steppe
#

how to build a game for beginner, it is almost the same for UE4/UE5

still cedar
#

I'm a developer that's wandering lost and confused from Unity lands. Trying to decide between Unreal and Godot.

woeful iron
#

if you work on a 2d game I'd say Godot, the support is there in unreal but quite limited. If you do anything in 3d, unreal is just the best in class

pure niche
woeful iron
#

wdym start charging in China?

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is that just a typo for start charging per install or did I miss something

pure niche
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it seems that its not free anymore or cancel the free version or sort stuff. I see some unreal groups in China are talking about it.

woeful iron
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they changed the pricing model so that developers have to pay a fee per install now

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idk it there is anything different in china though

pure niche
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Oh, I thought it was specifically targeted at Chinese users. Wouldn't they lose a large group of users by doing this?

woeful iron
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yes

chilly sundial
#

Yep they did

woeful iron
#

there has been a lot of protest the last few days

pure niche
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I can only hope they don't do any more tricks.

chilly sundial
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They wrote a clause in the EULA specifically allowing them to so who knows

pure niche
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lol, hope their users can get through this.

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But why do they have to do these? Can't they sell the company to epic and run it 😂just joking

still cedar
#

Eh, I've been working with Unity (professionally) for about ten years. It was always at the back of my mind that something like this might happen and I should learn Unreal or something just in case. I've dabbled in Unreal but never had the motivation to follow through.

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Now...now I have the motivation.

tranquil rune
#

same here... started a personal project early this year with unity to get used to it as i am now working professionally with it aswell... but now i feel like that skill will be useless in 1 or 2 years and it is time to learn unreal 😅

woeful iron
#

we welcome you all 😄

tranquil rune
#

unity ceo is a blessing for all game engines, except unity i guess 🤪

plucky hatch
#

So I was happy to switch to Unreal. 😄

round radish
#

Now learn cpp and then rust so you can make game engines in rust instead of games.

worldly breach
#

Hey, I am here as most people probably to ask a question about Unreal.
How hard is it to move from Unity to Unreal if I don't know C++?

woeful iron
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you could make a whole game without c++ if you wanted

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there's blueprints for that

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of course c++ will be more versatile and powerful

woeful iron
worldly breach
#

Blueprints are like GMS 2 point/click without writing actual code?

woeful iron
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idk what GMS is

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but it's visual scripting

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with nodes

worldly breach
#

Game Maker Studio 2

woeful iron
#

never used it so idk

worldly breach
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visual scripting is what I meant

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I will check the link, thanks

iron yew
iron yew
worldly breach
#

Nice, that sounds great!

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Glad I dont have to learn C++ straight away to make games 😄

iron yew
#

Yeah - biggest thing is learning the engine - it's a bit of a paradigm shift from Unity. The advise is to make use of the tools that epic provides, they're there to make your life easier, don't fight it.

worldly breach
#

Yep I will take my time to learn Unreal, not going to repeat my mistake from years ago where I stuck with 1 language for too long.

wary idol
#

UE by default provides you with a gameplay framework which for someone new to it can feel restrictive unlike unity

But you can in fact mostly ignore it and do your own thing if you really want to

Mentioning this since I see mentioned a lot that UE doesn't provide as much freedom, which might seem like the case at first but isn't true (was true in ue3 and early ue4 days)

worldly breach
#

Gameplay framework? Meaning UE5 is designed for specific games?

wary idol
worldly breach
#

Makes sense, it might actually make it easier since it's clear what I should do.

plucky hatch
teal dagger
#

hey fellas, does anyone have advice for a recent college graduate?

modern relic
#

Reheat Pizza in the oven instead of the microwave to prevent it going soggy

empty timber
chilly sundial
#

If you use a backpack, carry a travel umbrella. Unless you're in the desert you never know when you might get caught out in the rain

fervent palm
#

You guys give good advice

pastel estuary
chilly sundial
#

A very fair point

nova coyote
#

give up. never trust your instincts

heavy cradle
#

Boy oh boy. The price of freedom is steep. Embrace your dreams, and whatever happens... protect your honor... as SOLDIER!!

pastel estuary
#

also: War, War never changes.

chilly sundial
barren shadow
#

@misty creek ^

naive summit
#

What's the deal with a bunch of salary jobs being posted by companies that seem like they don't even exist? Or barely exist? Or when you google them it's like "This company stole millions of dollars from Kickstarter"

chilly sundial
rustic furnace
heavy cradle
wintry forum
#

What is the best student food

ivory echo
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Ramen

mint skiff
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student biryani

wintry forum
wintry forum
ivory echo
wintry forum
ivory echo
wintry forum
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why eat shit food

ivory echo
#

You seem to have all the answers, why ask what the best student food is in the first place if you have it all figured out?

wintry forum
#

I asked because I wanted to know what you guys frequently ate as students

wasn't expecting a junk food response

mint skiff
#

stir fry, sausages, ramen

brave forge
wintry forum
#

that's why I asked how to cook ramen at home lmao, I wasn't dismissive of your choice at first

brave forge
#

Students eat terribly lol

mint skiff
#

tbh all I did when I first moved out was buy a cookbook and just try random recipes I liked the sound of

wintry forum
wintry forum
mint skiff
#

ratatouille was probably the first...

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but my point was it doesn't really matter what, you get a feel for what's easy and what's cheap just by trying things

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and it's fun!

wintry forum
wintry forum
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So I stick to the same stuff, I was wondering if there's something else I could try haha, not that I'm bored of what I currently eat 😆

mint skiff
#

Really just a bunch of fried veges in tomato lol

wintry forum
round radish
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And not a rat to be seen.

mint skiff
wintry forum
#

rare to find clean roommates

naive summit
#

The best student food is rice

ivory echo
#

Too bland

ivory echo
rancid hedge
#

If they ask me what are your weaknesses during an interview, what am I supposed to answer?

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Feels like a trick question...

shut token
#

Honestly

rancid hedge
#

ikr

woeful iron
#

no, he means, you answer honestly

rancid hedge
#

like whatever you answer, it's gonna make you look bad

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Can I say Perfectionism and Stress are my weaknesses?

woeful iron
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if they are

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saying perfectionism is a classic copout answer though

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so I would only say that if true and you can back it up

rancid hedge
#

Stress is but not perfectionism

nova coyote
#

it's one of those question to let the interviewee know the areas you can improve on

rancid hedge
#

There is no winning with this question

nova coyote
#

instead of a narcissist who thinks nothing's wrong with them

woeful iron
#

it's not about winning though

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I think what I answered 3 years ago is that if I do get distracted I can be gone for a while, which is the hard truth, but which also motivates me to optimize processes so I don't get the time to be distracted

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don't shit on yourself

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but don't try to pretend you're perfect

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I still got hired

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is this your first job?

rancid hedge
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nope

woeful iron
#

then I'd say try to see it less as a competition and more just a conversation getting to know eachother

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nothing wrong with having flaws

rancid hedge
#

but what if the interviewer sees these flaws as a negative thing to the position?

nova coyote
#

well they are. i mean that's what the interviewer asked for

woeful iron
#

then maybe you're not fit for the position?

nova coyote
#

but being honest shows that you dont only recognise the issue, it also shows some level of confidence that you can fix it

nova coyote
#

you could also add how you're working on fixing that weekness

round radish
#

I thought I had a weakness once, but I felt that was a weakness so I stopped.

chilly sundial
chilly sundial
heady bobcat
#

If I'm applying for game dev jobs, usually software matters. I've got this 2D game I want to make for my portfolio, but Unreal isn't great at that and the only real alternative is Unity. Or I could throw the baby out with the bath water and go back to Game Maker 8. How important is the engine I make this in?

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I feel like using an engine that is common place would make my skills in it stronger, plus make my work more marketable to industry people.

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Most studios in my area use Unity, so I thought about using that instead

woeful iron
#

make it in what you want to find a job for

heady bobcat
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Well that's the thing

white steppe
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Did you check job descriptions?

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Usually they will say the game engine requirements they want or prefer to have

heady bobcat
#

Unreal to is too big. Unity is too risky. Smaller studios are at a stand still atm

heady bobcat
#

As in like, your not gonna make Baba is You in Unreal

white steppe
#

And also, it is up to you. Are you happy with making game using unity?

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It is your career

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You can definitely find studios using Unreal somewhere else

heady bobcat
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I've been making games off and on for a long time, and now that I'm back into it I'm thinking about making a career out of it

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But it was always a hobby so I don't know much about the employment side of it

white steppe
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If you do like to make small casual games, you might consider about the studios near by.

heady bobcat
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Yeah, they usually advertise unity

white steppe
#

If you do really want to make hardcore gameplay heavy games on console/PC, you may need to setup your mind.

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It is not impossible by Unity, but I guess for those kind of games, most of devs will just pick Unreal at the moment.

heady bobcat
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Yeah, I don't blame them either

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Unreal is used a lot in visualisation, so as an animator I think that would look good

white steppe
#

Isn't maya one of the most picked tool for animator? Game engine doesn't matter that much as Laura said.

heady bobcat
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Yeah Maya is standard. I'm looking at more character tech stuff generally tho

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Thanks a bunch for the help everyone!

small marsh
#

Guys should I do a bachelor in cs for gamedev or associate in gamesev is ok

woeful iron
#

depends on what you want really I guess

round radish
#

Doing a bachelor in normal cs is going to be better, I feel.

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Specialising in gamedev is going to be someone teaching you Unity or Unreal 4.11

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(aka a total waste of time)

drowsy gate
#

@trim seal Please DM me regarding your D&D game, I can not DM you as you have blocked non friends.

woeful iron
#

interesting chat to use for this communication

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how is this related to career though

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you could've like used #lounge or something

round radish
#

This channel isn't about specific jobs or advertising, though. It's about talking about careers.

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"I need a job in game dev" vs "can you tell me about game dev jobs? How to apply and maybe what it's like?"

drowsy gate
round radish
#

Yeah, that's cool. Nobody really minds that much!

feral galleon
zenith merlin
#

Hello, are unreal devs looking for 2D artists nowadays? Looks like there is quite a demand for 3D artist and animators. I just started learning how to navigate and make stuffs in unreal a few weeks ago but what kind of skills would be interesting to have for an artist to start a career with this engine.

woeful iron
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2d is not all that common in unreal in my experience

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although possible, there's usually better tooling for 2d games

zenith merlin
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Square enix making games in Unreal got me interested but I guess I should diversify my skills if I want to start working with the engine.

woeful iron
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what do you mean by that

zenith merlin
#

Yeah, just like you said, I can probably learn how to animate 3D characters at least or other things like that. animation in unreal is not very far from the 2D one from what I saw.

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I mean in their core, I know 2D is using flipbooks and 3D is using animation sequences and control rigs. But the process of making those, is still by using keyframes talking from a 2D animator perspective.

zenith merlin
#

Thanks for the answers, I'll try getting more used to how the UI works in unreal and try to adapt my approach from that first. That's probably best.

mortal galleon
#

was ffxvi in unreal

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says proprietary so guess not

woeful iron
#

no

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but ff7 remake is

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and some other games they published as well

mortal galleon
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i c

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yeah ff7r looks super good

rancid hedge
#

Am I actually the only one that gets stomach pain and heart burns before an interview?

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In my case, it is really intense

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to the point where I feel like throwing up

pastel estuary
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it happens, until you get to the point where you realize its not the end of the world when its not working out.

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think: "im excited"
instead of "Im anxious"

half grove
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im 16yo and i wanna be a game dev

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what projects can i do now

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i wanna start to build character classes and something like that but idk if its good for starters

woeful iron
#

what do you mean with build character classes?

fervent palm
#

Do a games course at college

woeful iron
#

do you wanna be an artist? a programmer? a designer?

woeful iron
fervent palm
#

Not really colleges only offer games design or game art @woeful iron

woeful iron
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how does that contradict what I said?

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and that's not true either

fervent palm
#

I haven’t seen any which offer coding or programming courses

woeful iron
#

well I have

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cause it's literally what I did lol

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and I meant that one college might be good, but another might be dogshit

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especially when it comes to "newer" specialisations, like game dev

earnest pecan
#

there's a ton of people who work on games

woeful iron
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if you wanna be a programmer I would probably recommend a CS like course over game dev in college, and then you can do game dev in your spare time

earnest pecan
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designers, programmers, artists, animators, writers, etc etc

uncut pasture
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Im into game programming college next year

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I saw the program and it dosn`t look bad

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idk

idle maple
#

Depends a whole lot. Hazelight (makers of It Takes Two) is almost all alumnis from a game dev school here in Stockholm

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A big majority atleast

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And the rest of the industry here in Sweden are either from TGA in Malmö or FutureGames in Stockholm.

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Almost everyone you stumble upon in the industry here have gone to either of them

woeful iron
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we also have this one game dev school in belgium that everyone went to

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it's also quite known internationally

uncut pasture
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Im going to one in canada

idle maple
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Yea, I think I know it. Isn’t the makers from We Were Here series from belgium?

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Or netherlands, don’t remember

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But they went to a game dev school too and the game started as a school project

woeful iron
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yeah they're from the netherlands

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larian is belgian though 💪

idle maple
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They’re awesome

half grove
#

Tbh I prefer to program a whole game with C and not with C sharp

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Or CSS

half grove
chilly sundial
#

It's not even a programming language

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And you should also know that CS = computer science

half grove
half grove
plucky hatch
round radish
#

... for your career?

median bone
#

how to get past your fear of going solo as a dev and working on your own indie project?

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sounds like a very risky career

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respect, but yeah working on other project that bring a little money while doing the main project i have in mind is a great advice.
the team i was in os staying with unity
and the fear freezes me from committing to my solo project

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but yeah first will find a way to gurantee some cash flow

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thank you again

green oyster
median bone
#

i heard some people kick start their projects but i don't think that will work for first time solo devs
but yeah art assets make good money

round radish
#

The trouble with kickstarter is you need 1) sizzle 2) trust and 3) traffic.

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That's hard when you have no project, no history and no fans.

median bone
#

exactly

hidden wraith
#

It’s why I’m funding my prologue with my own cash for my visual novel

raven trench
#

Is it just me or am i the only one struggling getting a job

woeful iron
#

both parts of the or refer to just you though 🤔

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but I have been reading the job market is not very favorable atm

still vector
#

hi. sorry can we export game in unreal to upload in browser like html? how come there's no tutorial for this 😭
can we even do this?

chilly sundial
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Not sure how this is career related though

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Html export has been gone since 4.24

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And you need to read the #rules on crossposting

still vector
#

sorry 😅

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i thought this was career related as well haha. sorry okok i wotn

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wont do it again

chilly sundial
#

All good :D

glossy cypress
woeful iron
#

this is not the place to post job offers

sick belfry
#

oh ok, im sorry

bitter wolf
#

Hello, I'm relatively new to CA near San Francisco, and I've been trying to find a physical meeting spot, like a IGDA game dev drink up, but from what I am told, they haven't had physical meet ups since 2020, plus San Francisco discords seem to be dead, so I thought I would try Unreal side of things. Really want to network and make friends here, so I figured I would ask here. Sorry if not 100% on the career topic. 😅

granite solar
rancid hedge
#

oh shit I just got offered a second interview

nova coyote
#

congrats man! 🥳

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good luck!

round radish
#

What he said!

rancid hedge
#

thanks guys

rancid hedge
#

The interview is remote, should I wear a suit and tie or too overkill?

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lol

round radish
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Shirt+tie... and underwear.

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So you're ready for when the mood changes!

void plank
#

go shirtless asserth dominance

rancid hedge
#

Apparently this Interview is 1 hour

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wtf

#

Im gonna die

plucky hatch
#

career wise what are yalls thoughts on something like a bootcamp? i think im starting to realize that im bad at trying to do thing on my own and prefer to have some sort of teacher i can ask questions to in real time about stuff im being taught but not sure how to get into the whole teacher thing. all i know is bootcamp can be really expensive and some i might waste my money on learning stuff that i wont be able to transfer over to unreal for game design

bitter wolf
granite solar
bitter wolf
granite solar
#

Badging people as they enter the buildings, watching over talks (making sure speakers have what they need, attendees aren't being disruptive), helping run workshops, working a help desk in case attendees need help, stuff like that.

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In spite of the all-access pass to the conference, the best part of being a conference associate is just the networking and socializing with the rest of them imo 🙂 They're a family in my eyes.

bitter wolf
#

Sounds good to me, and worth it especially if I can still network with people. Thank you good sir/good ma'am for this super helpful info

gusty trench
#

If I learn unreal engine blueprints will i get a job?

woeful iron
#

as what?

gusty trench
#

As a developer

woeful iron
#

probably not

gusty trench
#

Hmm

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But if I make the game that may get a good amount of players to play. Will that be a + point?

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With blueprint

woeful iron
#

not as a developer

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you could indeed be a designer that knows bp

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but very little studios will hire a developer with only bp knowledge

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I say very little but it's probably 0

gusty trench
#

Uh

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So i need to learn atleast one programming language probably c++

woeful iron
#

not trying to roast you or anything, genuinly curious

gusty trench
woeful iron
#

BP can give you a good intro to the unreal API, which is useful when using c++ in unreal, but with bp as only skill you will have a hard time finding employment

green oyster
#

I mean you might get some small BP gigs here and there

rancid hedge
#

Does anyone here work at NetEase Games?

plucky hatch
#

Idk if this is the right channel to put this, but as recently graduate in the game/3D industry, im struggling to find an identity as a professional. I have interests and skills in many different 3D/Game/VFX/Architecture things, but nothing i really am passionate about above any of the others, but im struggling to define myself and also what kind of jobs i should be looking for in the future. Does anyone have any tips?

spice dagger
#

I would argue you may also have not spent enough time yet to know where your passion lies

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Have you done VFX for 40 hours straight and nothing else?

mint skiff
#

I would think it'd be much more interesting to try a bunch of different things too

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The more experience you get the higher the "opportunity cost" so to speak of jumping discipline is, so early on is the perfect time to move around a lot.

green oyster
plucky hatch
#

Yeah i feel whenever i search for positions like 3D generalist i only get senior positons, which i am not qualifies for.

green oyster
plucky hatch
green oyster
#

Eastern Europe

mint skiff
#

Virtual production is also something to consider

plucky hatch
#

Cool, i have some fellow graduates that went to eastern europe for work (Western Europe here myself)

mint skiff
#

Similar sort of work to games but without many of the perf constraints 😁

plucky hatch
#

and i wouldnt really know how to get into it

mint skiff
#

Ask your former classmates + tutors

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IBC was held recently in the Netherlands

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And many studios show up to unrealfest of course

plucky hatch
#

Whats IBC

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Somehow i always find out about events i would want to go to, afterwards 😓

round radish
mint skiff
round radish
#

Company I work for does virtual production, so we had like 8 people wandering around for a couple of days.

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And going to escape rooms and axe throwing 😄

plucky hatch
round radish
#

GeoTech

rancid hedge
#

Does anyone here work at NetEase Games?

winged dragon
#

Hi, Can anyone suggest a good Environment Art course for unreal? For intermediate level. I wanna expand my skills.

mystic cloud
round radish
#

It's everything that's involved in producing electronic media.

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From sets for films to news productions, sporting events, etc.

#

Everything from the hardware used to do motion capture, the lights, the cameras, etc. to the software used to composite the graphics, produce overlays and special effects / post processing.

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I'm sure there's a ton that I've missed, but that's my small window into it.

mint skiff
nimble moth
#

are there people here who can help me with understanding what Jobs that there are available in the industry if I learn Unreal engine? I am so confused. As there are so many specific resources too learn about unreal engine out there. I am am confused as to which one to get into. Anyone from India would be preferable as the industry might be different from region to region. @everyone

chilly sundial
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I don't know

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Must be something in the air

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The cloudfl-air

little field
#

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woeful iron
#

or did you mean specific jobs?

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cause then idk

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I'm not from india

woeful iron
#

you have to scroll quite far to read anything

nimble moth
#

@woeful iron also what would you call someone who makes environments in VR using Unreal Engine in a corporate industry?

woeful iron
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I don’t work in games

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I’m a backend developer

woeful iron
nimble moth
nimble moth
#

👍

little field
#

like separating character design, environment work, etc?

woeful iron
#

Or like jumping to the about me

green oyster
little field
chilly sundial
#

An industry, but corporate

little field
#

maybe not very intuitive wording?

woeful iron
little field
#

on mobile?

woeful iron
#

No

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If you open the page

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There’s interesting info on the bottom of the homepage

chilly sundial
#

That is a lot of scroll time to get to the info

little field
#

Oh

woeful iron
#

But you have to scroll by 200 images first

chilly sundial
#

Maybe have your image reel on a carousel at the top

little field
#

Normally people say to show the work first so the art directors or whoever conducts recruiting is sold on landing on the site

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so its a work of compromise there, i guess, so maybe some head navigator link where you can bounce to those areas easily would be nice

woeful iron
#

You can show parts of it first

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Or indeed a carousel

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But by the time I find info I’m already not interested

chilly sundial
#

Seeing some work first is indeed a good attention grabber, but having to scroll through the whole collective works makes me lose interest

woeful iron
chilly sundial
#

I would say either carousel the images, do what Dieter said, or pick a small subset of your best ones to show first, then have a link to the full explained portfolio further down

little field
#

thanks thats good suggestions

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yeah there's 64 images there 🫠

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I'll keep it 15-25 tops and add a button to view more, on a different page?

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or you feel the landing page should be 100% for the about/the text

chilly sundial
#

Landing page should definitely have some attention grabber images

fervent palm
#

15 might be ok

woeful iron
#

Or like 5

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You can put the rest below or on a dedicated page

little field
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I shortened the list of images, from 64, to 18. I also changed the masonry layout to display more in less space, so it has four rows instead of three rows, images display as more thumbnail-view/zoomed out

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then added a button right below it for whoever wants to see more and display the rest.

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I think it does read a bit better now but feel free to let me know 🙂

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thankyou a lot

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im a bit skeptical/conservative of going all the way from 64 to 5 images though but i admit that could be the best, its good to show in the work as proof you can do the work right away, but in the age of AI art and where everyone's talented, maybe youre right and the text is worth more as it tries to qualify me as reliable/professional, which is also important. i'll think about it and set in this mid term for now and hope the thumbnail view does it a bit better.

chilly sundial
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Plus limiting yourself to a rather small number forces you to be pragmatic, and analyse what demonstrates your skills best

little field
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yeah, its true, i think best is to replace it with like 5 images that lead to case studies, you click on one of the five cards and it shows you a page with process breakdown, ref, etc like you're opening up artstation/behance. will be my long term plan, as i only have one really decent case study or two atm.

rancid hedge
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lol I messed up this second interview big time

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If I get this job then I would literally be the luckiest motherf**er ever lmfao

fervent palm
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How

rancid hedge
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too much guessing for answering questions

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not all of them but some important ones

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Gotta love stress

brave forge
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Sometimes the interviewer even WANTS an "I don't know" answer. Shows some good qualities. And can give you an opportunity to expand on how you'd go about finding the answer or solving the problem

lethal finch
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also misspellings on meticulous

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idk if you're english native but the copy on the bottom of that page is also ??? not sure what it means at all though it's a lot of words.

little field
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thanks! will fix

little field
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yes, thats part of a rebrand, i use my artstation to getjobs for myself while the site is for the bigger jobs that sometimes require me to get others to help me

round radish
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I might have gone for 6 arranged in a 3x2 layout and not had the gigantic whitespace, though.

nimble moth
woeful iron
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how come when there is an unread channel that when I get there, every single message is deleted, it's always #career-chat

round radish
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Heh

turbid eagle
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hi, all
i want an advice, when i send a cv to studio, they need a showcase of my games

what is common option of showing my games in cv ?

chilly sundial
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Attach a link to a portfolio

turbid eagle
woeful iron
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no

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a website

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that can showcase your projects with images/video/text

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and a download if you really want, but they would already have to be really interested to download it, so that should just be an extra on top

chilly sundial
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Yep. Recruiters don't have time to download projects from each applicant so if theres nothing to grab attention immediately, you'll just get thrown in the shredder

turbid eagle
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@woeful iron @chilly sundial Thanks !

lavish spindle
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Is finding an entry-level job doing programming in unreal that is remote something that is actually possible? I got an offer last week for an in person position but the cost of moving/breaking my lease is so prohibitively expensive that I can’t take it. Looking to find something remote (since locally there’s not much where I live) but don’t know if I’m wasting my time.

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Unfortunate 😦

round radish
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If you're not going to take it anyway, there's no harm in asking.

lavish spindle
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They offered some relocation assistance, but somehow I've managed to find my way into a lease that I am responsible for all of, regardless of any notice given. So basically I have to pay rent here til midway through next year...

round radish
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Can't sublet it, I suppose?

lavish spindle
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no, its through a big apartment complex

round radish
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You might be able to find a nice building manager who lets you out of the contract if you find new tenants 😛

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(I doubt it, though)

lavish spindle
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yeah, i'll keep looking into options but realistically i probably need to look for something either local or remote, hence the question. unfortunately i dont see pretty much anything in the area (tampa, FL) for unreal programming

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almost all of my experience programming has been in unreal so thats what i was looking for. i know some web dev (html/css/js) and have messed around with unity a bit but i wouldn't say i'm super employable in those scenarios. I could look into just regular c++ jobs but do you think someone with almost exclusively unreal as a background would be able to get jobs outside of the engine?

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interesting, ill keep that in mind

white steppe
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I think the most important thing for gamedev is the passionate of making a game and having the sense of how the game could be more interesting (it is a little bit vague but that's why the interviewer should be more professional, lol)

woeful iron
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depending on where you apply though, the company could prefer 0 input on how to change the game and just do your job

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mostly the bigger ones

weary pier
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Hopefully with the subscription come better support and documentation

woeful iron
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what subscription

weary pier
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Sorry I posted in the wrong thread. Was meant for industry-chat

regal cloak
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I was wondering how epic was getting money from the film industry. I guess they weren't but starting next year they will be able to correct?

round radish
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Something along those lines.

magic scroll
regal cloak
magic scroll
regal cloak
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Funny enough. I was just trying to pivot to using Unreal for YouTube channel project idea

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And that thought occurred me. I'd be like oh I don't have to pay anything

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I do wonder though, what if you use Unreal Engine for YouTube tutorials? Would you have to pay a subscription fee just to do tutorials on Unreal

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I hope there's a clause that makes it clear that that is okay

ivory echo
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Else we’d have a lot less shitty tutorials

brave forge
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(unless ofcourse those YouTube videos happened to be for a multi-million dollar enterprise)

white steppe
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From my knowledge in VP, it is possible to charge you more to get the integration for Unreal engine from the middleware which let you to use Unreal on the volume. For example, Epic could ask disguise (we are using) not providing unreal support unless you subscribe it. It is easier to control. You need a middleware anyway for making it work on LED for most of big film studios.

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So, in this case, Youtuber maybe just dodge the bullet.

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But who knows...

ivory echo
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Worry about this stuff if you ever reach 100k views and not before

inland tusk
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hi guys iam looking to switch my job i have 2.5 years of experience in unreal,
i can join immediate can any one have any refrecel please DM me iam open to full time, and freelance also
location : Hyderabad, Bangalore, india work from home

gusty vapor
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Why am I not seeing anything on the job boards? All I see is Manny posting and who the poster is, not the actual job post.

ivory echo
ivory echo
inland tusk
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thanks dude for helping and can you suggest any other channels also?

ivory echo
inland tusk
ivory echo
inland tusk
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ok now iam getting thx dude thx alot

gusty vapor
woeful iron
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it should be embedded below it

nova coyote
gusty vapor
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Its not. That is the whole post that I see.

nova coyote
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can you link it? manny probably had a stoke or something. or maybe it was deleted after it was poseted seeing that "(edited)"

gusty vapor
nova coyote
# gusty vapor

that's what you should see. double check your discord settings. maybe try your phone instead of your pc?

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gusty vapor
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Same on the phone using the app. I checked the settings and don't see anything that would change the message showing.

nova coyote
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this is a discord issue. nothing can be done on the mods/bots end sadly

shut token
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You need to have embeds enabled. This has happened to a few people in the past.

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Under Text & Images tab for your user settings @gusty vapor

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magic scroll
gusty vapor
magic scroll
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for Quinn

ivory echo
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Can relate

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(Bot) life hard

rich stirrup
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How do you become a senior Unreal gameplay engineer or whatever senior in game dev?

shut token
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By working in the industry and building/releasing games in Unreal

rich stirrup
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So even making the worse quality games make you a senior lol

ivory echo
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You start by being a junior

rich stirrup
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How to be a junior lol

shut token
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Well, I didn't think I'd have to clarify that learning is a part of becoming a senior.

ivory echo
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Apply to job, get 1000 rejections, get in somewhere if you have some skills/talent or were able to pay for a degree

ivory echo
shut token
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If you make a game and you have bugs. No big deal. If you make another game and it has the exact same bugs, then that is a big deal. Because it shows you didn't learn

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It's not like you just ascend to some higher level automagically

rich stirrup
shut token
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By building the games

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There is no secret

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There is no shortcut

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No trick

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No hidden thing that you don't know about

ivory echo
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Where my easy button at ?

shut token
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There isn't a book or a course or anything out there that will take you from junior to senior.

rich stirrup
shut token
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It takes time, work, and learning

ivory echo
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It literally is tied to seniority/experence

rich stirrup
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So if I want to make my dream game I first need to make another game just for experience

shut token
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Didn't say that. But that's a general piece of advice

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I don't really care what games people want to make as their first game. I'll just help solve problems.

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It is generally better to start smaller and build up

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Because you get that dopamine hit of actually completing stuff. As well as being able to focus on small things.

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That you can then bring into your bigger dream games

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These big games are just built out of the same crap that small games are built out of really

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Just different implementations due to scaling things...which you don't need to really worry about with small games all that much

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You learn how to scale things after knowing how to implement the thing

rich stirrup
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Hmm I see

shut token
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But at the same time, don't be surprised if you see some AAA game where the inventory is literally just a flat, dumb array with monolithic items...the same thing that a 3rd day student would do

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Why? Because they probably didn't need some complex system.

grave cove
ivory echo
magic scroll
paper creek
frank wind
summer kraken
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nova coyote
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<@&213101288538374145> WOO!!! he's back!! now's my chance to make my totally legit money through this guy's course money! 🥳

woeful iron
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you know you can use quinn to report messages

nova coyote
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it doesnt work for me thi

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the option's grayed out

woeful iron
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very sad

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quinn doesn't like you

nova coyote
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i have this effect on females it seems

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manny does like me

vagrant brambleBOT
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:question: do you like me?
:8ball: Outlook good.

magic scroll
nova coyote
magic scroll
plucky hatch
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the market for graphics programmers is incredibly tiny and is limited to AAA studios in the US(with barely any jobs in other countries and with no remote) right? I've always been curious about that direction of development but it seems it's kinda dead dead deaddity dead.

gusty vapor
plucky hatch
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Got it. So still a completely worthless direction for me to explore professionally.

gusty vapor
ivory echo
pastel estuary
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good graphics programmers are their weight worth in gold and then some.
get a good portfolio, post cool research/tech on social media and properly tag it > job in no time.

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some variables excluded of course.

chilly sundial
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This is not the place to advertise yourself

crude vault
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I'm happy to cut anything out that seems like self-advertising. Do you want me to just say: does anyone know of any companies that are like that?

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I tried a post like that earlier and got no response...

chilly sundial
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I'm not sure this place is appropriate full stop honestly.

You might have the best luck just posting something similar in #hire-a-freelancer or something

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Perhaps someone else will be able to guide you better on that one :P

crude vault
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OK, let me pull this, and try that.

chilly sundial
crude vault
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I think I've posted on there before, but it was my general portfolio.

chilly sundial
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You can also have a scroll through #freelance-jobs

I regularly see posts there regarding multiplayer

crude vault
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I think I have an old post I made there before I got all these gigs, maybe the best thing to do would be to pull that, and do a specific post about multiplayer.
And then also cruise the freelance jobs (I do do that).
I guess what that leaves out is knowledge about specific companies that aren't currently explicitly hiring in the gaming adjacent space, but who might be willing to bring someone on.

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Like, I keep researching those and building a list and am wondering if anybody else is building that list...

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I think that's what I was trying to get at with that post.

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So, if anybody else is looking into that, happy to trade research, etc.

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Also @chilly sundial thanks for the advice/correction, etc.

chilly sundial
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no problem. It can be a real pain to find things like this so I wish you luck!

snow kiln
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Hi, I'd like to dive deeper into the level design and environment art.
Would love to see some courses or masterclasses from some industry veterans. If anyone could help me with some links or suggestions I can look into?

To keep in mind - I do environment art in Unreal engine for more than a year now, have made some nice projects, renders, paid ones as well, but I would like to level up some more

Thanks in advance!

unreal hazel
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On youtube there are very good tutorials

woeful iron
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on youtube there are also very bad tutorials

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maybe check pins in related channels?

dull veldt
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sure there's clickbait garbage but good stuff also exists. tharlevfx, ben cloward etc.

chilly sundial
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Yes but not regarding level design from industry veterans

dull veldt
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fair, that's absolutely true

mint skiff
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If you're already doing this professionally investing some money in their courses won't be a bad idea.

plucky hatch
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Try this guy, he's worked on BioShock Infinite and Dishonored 2
https://youtube.com/@stevelee_gamedev?si=v3yoExtzJLhPT-Ej

YouTube
Steve Lee (Level and Game Design)

Teaching level and game design, 16 years in AAA and indie. Worked on stuff including Dishonored 2, Bioshock Infinite, Alba: A Wildlife Adventure, now Tactical Breach Wizards.

If you like what I'm making, please consider helping me make more (and join our Discord community!) by supporting the Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/stevelee_gamedev

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