no
#ue4-general
kind mural
Hmmm ok I'm just trying to call a function from another script
nothing specific to unity
kind mural
ahhhhhh ok my bad
plush yew
When you export there's a setting to automatically change coordinates, however I had some issues with my model scaling
Oops wrong chat
Oh jo
No
wet grove
How can I increase the speed of compilation of the material when drawing layers on the landscape? the material is planned 50 different layers
ionic bramble
when I import my animations, the FBX is normal but when I import my animations they come out super tiny
static viper
then export your animations at the right scale???
ionic bramble
that wasn't warranted
they are exported at the same scale as the fbx
and no matter what scale I import it at it's still tiny
it throws bone transform errors
ionic bramble
static viper
is this in ue4?
ionic bramble
...yes
static viper
that error is useless
ionic bramble
that's what it tells me
static viper
it should show you an error log...
not this
an actuall error window
imported bone transform sounds like you moved the original skeleton
ionic bramble
static viper
have you googled this error yet?
ionic bramble
I went to the docs link but it didn't have the error
static viper
google it
plush yew
Hello guys I have a problem with my project
it is third pesron and it is mobiele-When I delete my mouse pa and gameplay I must to can't move but I can move-what? I compiled and save it
regal mulch
Anyone some knowledge on saving an Actor Instance with all it's different settings compared to the base class?
Currently trying to setup some sort of prefab system for Tiles. We had them as levels first, but loading a Level instance costs way too many frames.
Creating the as Blueprints is shitty to maintain and anything else seems to lack the way of properly planning all the actor settings and locations upfront.
So I had in mind just saving these to e.g. a JSON and using that later to spawn the Actors and Meshes back in.
However, the problem here is that I can only save the Transform and Class. Any BP Instance that was changed (e.g. different mesh assigned) won't be saved properly.-
plush yew
how to fix my problem?
frank escarp
@regal mulch have you seen the Prefab plugin?
regal mulch
Yeah, same as last time, it's not made for what I want to do
frank escarp
ok
regal mulch
There needs to be a proper way of spawning preconfigured Actors, without loading a level instance
frank escarp
yeah its a pain
regal mulch
If I have, let's say, 5 Actors in the scene. All 5 Actor Instances have modified values, so not the values of their Class.
If I select them all and Convert them to a new BP Class, does it take these adjusted values in?
Ah nvm. I can't even do that
Silly me, thinking UE4 properly makes use of the ChildActorComponents
plush yew
anyone to helkp with my problem the fuck
regal mulch
Your question is more than vague. Try to write it again but clearer. I have no idea what your problem even is.
@frank escarp Hm, found an AnswerHUB post similar to what I want. Person there answer its own question with hte idea of making a "UWorld" child and creating a "UWorldChildFactor".
And moving the actors into that and saving it
frank escarp
what the actual fuck
regal mulch
haha
Would it be possible to load data from a umap asset without actively using the "LoadLevelInstance" stuff?
I mean, the umap does indeed save the modified actor instances
If I could read that without spawning the whole level, I would already bea step further
frank escarp
that sounds insane
regal mulch
Why would it be insane?
tidal cape
Where can i get help for packaging my game?
regal mulch
random forum
Wow... there are so many blueprint nodes inside my player character.... I think I have to learn C++ now...
clever smelt
Where can we get aome free asets from besides the kite demo ?
cursive dirge
clever smelt
Thanx for the answer Olento.
shell kettle
Hi. So I have a door that uses an arrow's forward vector and the player's forward vector to determine which way to open the door. The problem is, when I place the door in my game, the arrow's forward vector is set to world space rather than local space. Is there any way to prevent this so the arrow's forward vector is always pointing in the direction of the arrow?
static viper
the forward vector here would be
the actor one
or the door one
that arrow you placed?
yee
that has no connection to the door at all
it will always show forward
but the doors forward changes according to the hinges
shell kettle
Correct. I want the arrow to remain fixed. The problem is the forward vector of the arrow is changed when dropped into my game. When I edit the BP, I can rotate the arrow with the forward vector always pointed in the same direction. In the game, it doesn't do the same thing.
static viper
the forward will always show in the direction this arrow shows
thats kinda the point
i dont see the issue here
the gizmo by the way doesnt show the forward
in viewport it constantly rotatetes
and it is bound to the scene root
shell kettle
How would I get the forward vector of the starting position of the door then?
shell kettle
The scene root always has the same forward vector regardless of the child's rotations?
static viper
the scene root is the child
and it always is what you make of it
if you rotate the actor
the forward changes accordingly
shell kettle
I must not be understanding you. It seems here like the children of DefaultSceneRoot is Door and Arrow, but you're saying otherwise?
static viper
you are still not getting what a forward is
that arrow
that door mesh
they have seperate forwards
shell kettle
Right. I get that. Which is why I wanted to use the arrow instead of the door. The door rotates, so the forward vector would change as it rotates.
static viper
that is not possible
the arrow is a child and will inherit parent transforms
it will always rotate with
plush yew
Assuming you are only rotating the mesh component itself, the arrow won't rotate
dark depot
^
plush yew
You need to either rotate the actor itself or attach the arrow to the door
dark depot
the content examples has a version of this
shell kettle
Correct. I don't want the arrow to rotate with the door.
Unless I'm not understanding
plush yew
wat
dark depot
Here this is from the Learn tab / Content Examples project i recommend you download it
static viper
the arrow wont rotate with the door mesh
but the scene root
as i said its a parent
dark depot
the second get actor location is the player
shell kettle
Could you explain the part where you account for the door's rotation?
dark depot
yeah download the Content example project ๐
shell kettle
Okay will do
dark depot
also i have it breaking to the Y default its X but that is just my own thing hhaha
shell kettle
Alright sounds good. I can show you my current blueprint too if that will help
Downloading the content examples now
tidal cape
I need help i cant compile
dark depot
literally just copy what i posted and it will work. you use that bool to check which direction to go to
@tidal cape could you explain more? like Compile shaders/ Package project/ Compile the engine
fringe ledge
Hi
I escaped from the unity cave
I've read through unreal a bit and am I right in saying it's totally free aside from the % of profits you pay?
dark depot
yep
fringe ledge
Last I checked it wasn't free so I just wanted to know
No locked features or anything?
dark depot
none
tidal cape
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5): COMPILER_ENGINE = NODE_JS
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5):
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5): #COMPILER_ENGINE = V8_ENGINE
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5):
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5): #COMPILER_ENGINE = SPIDERMONKEY_ENGINE
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5):
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5):
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5):
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5):
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5):
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5): # All JS engines to use when running the automatic tests. Not all the engines in this list
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5):
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5): # must exist (if they don't, they will be skipped in the test runner).
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5):
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5): #
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5):
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5): # Recommendation: If you already have node installed, use that. If you can, also build
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5):
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5): # spidermonkey from source as well to get more test coverage (node can't
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5):
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5): # run all the tests due to node issue 1669). v8 is currently not recommended
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5):
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5): # here because of v8 issue 1822.
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5):
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5):
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5):
UATHelper: Packaging (HTML5): JS_ENGINES = [NODE_JS] # add this if you have spidermonkey installed too, SPIDERMONKEY_ENGINE]
Im stuck here
dark depot
so is this you packaging a project
tidal cape
packaging project to html5
shell kettle
Like so?
dark depot
idk Axion does it work haha i know what i posted works
dark depot
and alpha maybe ask in #packaging or #web it may take a while but they can answer most likely
tidal cape
k
dark depot
@shell kettle Np this is why i always tell people to look at the content examples project its full of things you can learn and expand on
shell kettle
I'll definitely look into it.
fringe ledge
Does unreal have a feature comparable to unity collaborate?
It does, right?
Just want to make sure
dark depot
isnt that just like source control software
fringe ledge
Well
It lets you develop with other people at the same time
Is what I'm looking for
Got a few devs and I'd rather we can all work together
dark depot
like you see their work a tthe same time
fringe ledge
That would be preferred
Unity just has you publish it though
Publish changes to the project
dark depot
so source control
dark depot
well you can use source control like Git/perforce and stuff with anything. looking at their site it looks like their own version of that. if you want real time editing with other people i know there has be discussions of that in the future and there is a plugin for that i believe where you can see the other person in editor
frank escarp
eevee is different
for example, it can do things ue4 cant
with volumetrics and lighing
becouse eevee can just bruteforce shit
so what if it runs at literally 3 fps
becouse you use it to render
plush yew
e.g. in eve you see everywhere tiny pixels changing very fast in the reflection.
in UE it's almost invisible
plush yew
but raytracing?
frank escarp
bruh you can combine eevee passes with an "actual" raytracer
eevee materials are cycles materials too
cloud cobalt
Game engines specialize in best-quality for lowest-cost, while Eevee is just here to show you what it will be like when you do the real slow render
frank escarp
@cloud cobalt allso for movies themselves
basically, its a huge competitor to the whole "unreal for movies" thing
becouse... you can use blender, get very similar pbr stuff, but some higher end features, and then use 1 program, not a full pipeline
plush yew
i wanted to make animations with eevee in good quality
cloud cobalt
Probably a better tool than UE4
frank escarp
definitely
just becouse you can do the entire thing in blender
modelling, animation, and render
and you can even combine some raytracing passes with eevee if you wish
plush yew
but the physics are much better in UE. which are important
frank escarp
look at tihs
some random ass indie animation studio
who is now doing actual shorts with eevee
physics?? what the hell
look at the timestamp i posted
thats like that forest animal stuff unreal showed
so its as 1 to 1 as you can get
but worse couse lower budget tho
but its probably made a lot faster
plush yew
i mean i can't get physics in blender to work correct
frank escarp
what physics
frank escarp
you use a software dedicated to that, usually
no one uses unreal for the physics
also, blender does have good physics
decent at least
plush yew
i am not aware of any software for that?
plush yew
blender is for everything or not? oO
frank escarp
yes
blender is for everything
it can do a stupid huge amount of things all in the same place
99% of the Next Gen movie was done in blender
plush yew
so why isnt blender good for physics?
frank escarp
becouse you suck at it
you know the fortnite trailer?
the old one
before battle royale
some of the destruction effects when the big zombie crashes through a wall are done in blender
plush yew
but you said i shall use houdini, bcs. i wouldn'T suck at it or why? oO
you shoudlu say i use it wrong then
frank escarp
hollywood movies, when they need to blow up an entire building, use houdini
if you want physics thats the software
blender "has" physics (wich are better than unreal btw, i think) and they are mostly usable
frank escarp
blender got you covered if you know what to do
marble isle
Where can I get the assets for live trainings to follow along?
"We usually put stream projects up on box.com, so we will probably stay with that method for this one as well."
I am lost, any one know if they are archived somewhere
Or has a link to their box.com thing
grim ore
https://forums.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine/announcements-and-releases/asset-sharing , anything they have shared from the live streams is usually in here
shell kettle
Hello. I'm trying to open the Content Examples project in Unreal Editor 4.20.3 and it's stuck loading at 95%. I've let it sit for a long time and it's still stuck.
weary basalt
The Engine has to compile alot of Shaders, this process can take a very long time the first time its done. Leave the Editor to do this, it will take time depending on your System Specs, but it will finish.
shell kettle
What is a typical amount of time that it takes to do this?
Also, why does opening the Content Examples project in Unreal Editor 4.19.2 open nearly right away?
pallid compass
thats like asking how long is a piece of string
it depends on your hardware
and its not as simple as
X cpu compiles Y fast
plush yew
do i need to make moving controls for charaters, when i click on start i can move freely
grim ore
Can you put that in the form of a question or an example?
plush yew
i can like fly and move at any direction
grim ore
it sounds like your asking how to make a character move around and not fly? If that is true then your not spawning a character probably.
open up the third person or first person template and use those to start with, they have working characters.
otherwise yes you need to make controls for your custom character if you don't use a pre built one
plush yew
ok ty
devout sun
hahahaha, pretty nice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiTq7XJwEgI
tired oracle
where do I post for tech support? Can't load my map, keep getting a crash
devout sun
wraith lark
@devout sun that must be something you can answer, because you are aware of, that #vc-feedback-support are only for voice users
devout sun
Haven't had that problem yet.
coral shoal
Anyone know why i observe ~20 ping to a dedi server run on my own machine through localhost (using playerstate ping x 4)
also get like 120 ping if i delay packets by 100ms
upper iris
Anyone got any good tutorials on setting up modular work flows....???
Or anything on large scale texturing
fringe pivot
does it make sense an inventory system in blueprints or should I go code?
I'm just starting, not sure how limited blueprints are
dark depot
if you can code do it in code if can use BP's only use Bp;s. whatever you can use use it
fringe pivot
I can code but C++ is like WTF
worn granite
I would stay away from making any system in BP.
fringe pivot
I'll try bp anyways
worn granite
If you're not comfortable enough with C++ for it to be at most a challenge, then yeah sure whatever.
.... then why ask
fringe pivot
because I can
worn granite
its a fucking waste of both our time and the effort to type this out.
why don't you challenge yourself
fringe pivot
I have plenty of both
worn granite
.... right.
south ridge
@coral shoal Might be some sort of a processing overhead
Like, overhead from how the ping is calculated/when the messages are actually dispatched to the network
coral shoal
It seems strange that it's happening from using the native ping functionality
south ridge
Powered by Unreal Engine 4
I would not discount that there's some mistake somewhere, but it's got strangeness all around it
terse skiff
Hey, anyone free to give a quick tip?
I'm trying to import a 3rd party plugin but it's not working. I put it in
C:\Users\ThePi\Documents\repos\Unreal\4.19\VRTest\Plugins
But it's not showing up in edit>Plugins
It's this plugin here https://github.com/afuzzyllama/VoronoiDiagramUE4
wait I think I might be stupid
nope still nothing
so the directory of the plugin is
C:\Users\ThePi\Documents\repos\Unreal\4.19\VRTest\Plugins\VoronoiDiagram
fierce vale
Hello i'm trying to make a fps game and using a line trace to determine where it is that the bullet shoots, im starting the linetrace from the camera and it doesnt align with the crosshair perfectly
regal mulch
Show your code :P
terse skiff
๐ญ
static viper
The plugins need to have the same version or they will show you compiling messages
yee as i thought
languid shard
@fierce vale are you sure about your raycast math ?
static viper
this only contains the code to generate the plugin
not the plugin itself
@terse skiff
the description is very telling ๐
and also
your ue4 project path is really really longus
regal mulch
tl;dr you need to compile the Plugin by putting it into a C++ Project first.
terse skiff
lol
And I see
regal mulch
- be aware that it seems to be pretty old
So you'll most likely have to adjust the classes to fit the recent coding API
terse skiff
Honestly I just want to generate voronoi cells using delaunay triangulation or fortune's algorithm
but I can't find any detailed explanations
static viper
that plugin looks smol
terse skiff
it is
static viper
you should really try it
put in c++ project and generate
doesnt have to be your project for now
just
try it
bleak widget
hi everyone
terse skiff
So just open it up in VS?
terse skiff
I did
static viper
then generate vs files
terse skiff
Ahhh
static viper
then add plugin there manually
bleak widget
C++ project?
bleak widget
it's easy )
static viper
it says you need to add dependency manually
terse skiff
I tried
static viper
so thats something i would look out for
terse skiff
but wasn't sure how
bleak widget
which plugin you need
bleak widget
c++ as i see
terse skiff
yep
sturdy star
anyone know where you set auto-dimming of TV screen? our game can seemingly run indefinitely without dimming the screen
terse skiff
I did that already
bleak widget
and nothing ?
terse skiff
correct
bleak widget
generate VS files done?
bleak widget
)))
terse skiff
I needed to extract before opening the project
I got dialog boxes
it's not compatible
RIP
regal mulch
- Have a C++ Project or create one
- Place Plugin in Plugins Folder of that Project
- Edit UPLUGIN file and remove the "EngineVersion" row
- Rightclick UPROJECT file and Regenerate Project Files
- Open Visual Studio
- Build for Development Editor
If that fails, post the error
The UPLUGIN file has 4.4.0 as engine version defined
That's one thing why it breaks
languid shard
@regal mulch do you know if Epic ever made it possible to make content packs for the engine ? Can't find any doc on how to upak stuff ๐ฆ
terse skiff
doing that rn
regal mulch
There is a way of doing what the StarterContent does
As well as defining maps to load
regal mulch
@languid shard https://blog.jamie.holdings/2018/07/15/add-custom-level-templates-to-unreal-engine-4/
That, but it's not what you want
bleak widget
ahah
regal mulch
Hoped it was covering it
languid shard
For now I can settle with create a template with my tools, then adding another, official, template with the add content ui
thanks, lemme check that out
terse skiff
tfw you look in a mirror and see dried blood all over your face.
Nice.
languid shard
@regal mulch uh, not what I was looking for but... still gonna be useful
terse skiff
How dare you be disrespectful to Master Cedric!
languid shard
๐ค
terse skiff
xD
languid shard
regal mulch
You don't want the Actual Project Template or?
You mean something like custom Starter Content or?
terse skiff
prolly the latter
languid shard
custom starter content type stuff
with the "add new > add feature pack"
that way I can just create my projects using the appropriated official template
then add my own tools without having to resort to migration from another project (which might take time)
terse skiff
tfw you have like 80,000 tabs about game dev open
because yay, non-descriptive general talks about a feature you want to implement
languid shard
wait what post are you referring to ?
regal mulch
it's not autorefering? sorry!
static viper
๐
languid shard
np
terse skiff
quick off topic, anyone know a good player for flac files?
languid shard
vlc
terse skiff
sweet, thanks
languid shard
for mobile (android) I use poweramp
terse skiff
- I'm on PC
- I have iphone (RIP me)
languid shard
sell gift > buy new phone > ??? > profit
languid shard
lul
terse skiff
I pay for my part of the plan but still
bleak widget
i have SONY
terse skiff
ew
terse skiff
anyone ever considered using virtual space to teach basic balance calibration to an AI?
terse skiff
I'm not knocking blueprints, but you should git gud
LEL
fr fr tho I'm just teasing
I actually made a toon shader using 2 blueprints, took me 30-40 hours because I had to rebuild it several times
bleak widget
it hard for me. Coding on C++
terse skiff
bleak widget
my castomisation widget
terse skiff
that shader took way longer than it should have because I had to iterate through multiple methods of doing toon shading, then I wound up using a sort of hybrid method
I cannot read what I believe is russian
bleak widget
inputs )
terse skiff
gotcha
bleak widget
left, right, frward, back e t.c.
terse skiff
ye
looks like english had an illegitimate child with greek and russian was born
LEL
bleak widget
now still reading default settings and loading into the Input Key Selector
onKeySelected remain, but i so tired
need to sleep )
dense sparrow
Hi guys, is there an easy way to 'black out' areas of my level that my player has not been in?
been googling for ages and cant really find anything
terse skiff
what do you mean by "black out"?
dense sparrow
yeah its a top down 2d
terse skiff
proximity lighting?
dense sparrow
its mainly for when I load up a map of the level, I want to black out the areas I have not been to yet
static viper
mh depends on what style
terse skiff
yeah
static viper
show game you are trying to copy
terse skiff
I love how you assume they're copying LMFAO
terse skiff
I have a team of 10 working on a game. We don't know of any game it'd be close to
though it's not in UE4, it's in a Java engine we wrote from scratch
dense sparrow
nah not really copying a game other than the basic idea of hiding parts of the map, but at the moment I have my game and can run about, works fine, I have a map I can load up, which then switches to another "camera" that is zoomed out and you can see the whole map (with keys to scroll the map) , but in that camera view I want to black out areas I have not been to
static viper
but you must have any inspiration
dense sparrow
I have an idea how to do it using a bunch of black sprites I can place all over, on collide destroy, just thought there might be a better way
static viper
can you show me a screenshot of game
dense sparrow
erm 1 min will find something as seen it on various games
static viper
and i need an example of your fog of war
dense sparrow
no I can do that, I had already typed that out as he asked, as you can obviously see via the timestamp
lel
desert lava
mediaplayer failed to prepare source on android. Can someone help me
languid shard
@regal mulch interesting, followed the link to create custom "New Levels", first time I see this green Unreal logo
languid shard
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
dense sparrow
ok here is what I mean - https://screenpresso.com/=Knbvb , I have not setup anything with lightning or fog of war, im only just starting so happy to look up anything I can use, dont want anybody wasting there time doing it all, just pointer in the right direction of what I can use ๐ , thanks
static viper
its gonna be easy
with that you can just create a massive 2D plane
and use the draw function
draw the free spots around the player
dense sparrow
and they stay on even after the player leaves the area?
dense sparrow
thanks
languid shard
@desert lava you do realise the size of your image here ?
desert lava
@languid shard Yeah it's a video. and its only 1mb
desert lava
oh sorry wait a min
@languid shard pls see the above image
@languid shard Kindly help me
languid shard
I can't sadly
I'm no Android dev
are you sure Unreal has access to that file you are mentioning though ?
desert lava
@languid shard Yes. It plays in editor .
i am using Mediaplayer Open URL function to stream source directly. It fails to open in android
This only happens in UE4.20. It works correctly on UE4.19
desert lava
@languid shard Thank you ๐ฆ
languid shard
@regal mulch that'll do for now ๐
still island
Hi guys. Does anyone know if impostor baker plugin - https://github.com/ictusbrucks/ImpostorBaker can be used comercially? Is it free to use?
teal tulip
@still island Yes from what I know, if you even manage to get it working
Cause I didn't
still island
We did
teal tulip
Did you followed his guide ?
steep crystal
@still island given that there's no license present no-one is allowed to use it for whatever purpose, I'd contact the author and ask to get a license
still island
Alright
teal tulip
Well is made by a Epic guy so
still island
@teal tulip I am not sure, it wasnt me that used it
teal tulip
The baker wasn't the problem to me, rather about get the generated images working
Is what don't work to me
steep crystal
There has to be a proper license no matter who made it, but I'm sure they probably meant it to be a permissive license but just forgot about it, so contact them
still island
How can I find this guy? Is he here on forum?
teal tulip
IS that guy
you have there his twitter etc
sure is on the forum too but idk what was the exact name
still island
Thanks!
teal tulip
can you reference who managed to get this thing working ? @still island
still island
He's not on this chat. He helps me with my project. But I will ask him and let u know whenever he's around
teal tulip
๐
slate wave
hey guys, any recast expert here? ๐
static viper
recast?
slate wave
navigation
static viper
more details o.o
slate wave
the part of the code that handles the path queries and the navigation on the navmesh ๐
slate wave
oh thanks ๐
next sierra
is there a way to offset the location of multiple actors by a certain number? I can't group all of them because they are on different levels
gleaming creek
Loop through them?
wintry glade
hello!! Do you guys know if the live cam input on MediaPlayer maintains the same FPS and quality ?
oh and one more thing, what's the best material type to display a video or image ? Base color is too dark and emissive too bright
gleaming creek
You can multiply the emissive to make it less bright
languid shard
@wintry glade unlit ? ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
wintry glade
yup figured it out thanks ๐ I ended up using it on a light function
languid shard
that works too
dont stack too much LFs on top of eachother though, can be heavy to render
wintry glade
i love the projector effect. But the rect light seems problematic with light function material
languid shard
use either a spotlight or a point light for LFs
rect light is still quite experimental
and mostly intended for baked lighting
wintry glade
ah i see. Yes I am using a spot light but I can't get right the width / height of the projection. It's stretched.
I am feeding it a 1080p input and it gives me a 1:1 output :/
languid shard
gimme a sec I'll show you my setup
wintry glade
oh cool thanks
wintry glade
hahaha its ok I will figure it out ๐
languid shard
I'll search in my screenshot history
@wintry glade https://gfycat.com/unripebewitchedguineafowl
wintry glade
mm yes
languid shard
iirc in your light function parameters
pallid compass
that looks nice af
languid shard
there's a width and height
if you can get the ratio of your media with the pixel res
you should be able to automatch your LF to your content
and it casts shadows @pallid compass ๐
in theory you could do some projection mapping with that
I'm slapping myself rn for deleting the project that had this BP T_T
languid shard
no probs, gl
wintry glade
thanks ๐
pallid compass
dam son u been busy af
vale silo
do you think 4.21 is coming out this week ?
languid shard
@vale silo I know that the studio plugin will be updated this week
prolly (with the revit plugin)
so at least we'll have a new preview
vale silo
I see
grim ore
I would assume 2 weeks after the last preview and we had a preview last week right? P3? if so I would give it atleast 1 more preview and 3 more weeks lol. probably hit a week before turkey vacation
vale silo
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chrome summit
paper kernel
design question: how would one go about using skills
which are actors
like, how to manage cooldowns
while simultaneously keeping the option for AI to use them aswell
zenith pewter
hello, im joining server this way but if server is not available it still does input mode game only. how can i check ? (isvalid?)
earnest pawn
hey could someone help me
is it possible to render an object over everything else
I have a fps game with arms and weapons that are only visible to the owning player
but I have a rocket launcher thats like the size of player him self
and that keeps going inside the walls, and I can resize it properly that it fits inside the collision capsule
grim ore
@zenith pewter when you join the server does it load up a different map? if so maybe put that input mode game only in the map starting code
plush yew
any widget box that lets me move it's children however I want like in normal editor?
grim ore
The Canvas Panel is a position based panel
plush yew
thanks
zenith pewter
@grim ore oh :dd yes i can do that .thankss
sterile narwhal
Is there a fix for this thing where a blueprint wire's startpoint is way far away so it suddenly thinks it's in a different place?
willow stump
Hey guys, is there any way I can use my 2nd screen when recording a cinematic
for example I want to have the world viewport on one of my screens and the one could be the camera I am animating ?
shell kettle
What are the units for Max Walk Speed in CharacterMovement? I looked up the average walk speed for humans (4 MPH at a brisk pace), and calculated the speed to be 180 centimeters per second (since 1 uu = 1 cm). This is actually really slow in-engine. What's the deal with this?
shell kettle
I did double and triple check my answers so it does seem correct. It just feels so slow for some reason. I can do what you suggested, but it doesn't make sense to me.
manic pawn
characters in games actually tend to walk ridiculous fast
shell kettle
I'm just confused by the fact that it still feels super super slow even with all the scaling and forces being accurate to real life.
Like I could record the distance I walk in 10 seconds and I think it would be different in-engine despite having the right values
I see that others are finding similar values online though, so it must be right. I'll mess around with ground friction and see if that changes anything
opaque salmon
I'm trying to move my player along a spline which seems easy enough to do, but my spline is a landscape spline and I'm weirdly having trouble getting a reference to it, I can get a reference to the landscape but I don't see any way to get a spline component reference for the spline transform function
shell kettle
I set ground friction to 0 and I can still walk? EXCUSE ME? ๐ถ
plush yew
I think you want ground friction to be a large number to impede movement
shell kettle
In real life when walking, you push the ground behind you so that the ground can push you forward. This requires friction to happen. If there's no friction, then you wouldn't be able to walk. Which is why I'm super confused as to why I can still walk when friction is 0.
plush yew
Game friction is just how easily something slides
shell kettle
In Unreal Engine, I can still walk (but then I slide across the floors). That's weird that they set it up that way :/
plush yew
It's somewhat intuitive. Less friction = more like ice = more slidey
shell kettle
Yeah I get that. The part I don't get is how no friction = still able to walk
shell kettle
Alright makes sense.
livid haven
@shell kettle You're confusing traction with friction.
I mean, yes, physically speaking, one is kind of an aspect of the other.
I don't recall exactly how it's setup out of the box, but the friction will decelerate you and resist acceleration you.
shell kettle
Traction is just static friction if I recall correctly
livid haven
And your maximum speed is the walking speed.
Traction is a lot of things, including adhesion and static friction, yes.
It's not as though UE4 is simulating your character's feet pushing off of a surface to move forward - it's just applying a forward acceleration.
So friction is just the resistance against that acceleration (maybe, not sure if it's actually used to limit your acceleration) and to passively decelerate you.
shell kettle
Alright sounds good. So it's sort of similar to real life but not exactly
livid haven
It's about as simple as I just said. Press forward? Apply acceleration directly to character. Surface friction resists that. Acceleration from player input will not increase the character's velocity in that direction if the velocity is already greater than their maximum walk speed.
Let go of pressing forward? Surface friction decelerates you.
gleaming creek
As for the speed, it seems like you need about double what would be a realistic value to get a movement speed that feels good
livid haven
When you say it feels slow, are you looking from first person or from third person at a character moving at that speed?
shell kettle
Alright sounds good. Weird that you would need double the average human's walking speed to feel normal, but it's true.
gleaming creek
Well, in real life we walk rather slowly
But you wouldn't want to have to wait as long as that takes in a game
that's why most game characters run everywhere
I found that a walking speed of around 400 feels good, with 500-600 for running
livid haven
I'm not sure that there isn't a misunderstanding about units at play here, but regardless, this is also true.
At least from first person.
Characters walking around at a realistic ground speed might look fine.
But from first person, it'll feel hella slow.
shell kettle
1 uu = 1 cm is the basis I'm going off of
livid haven
That's kind of an arbitrary basis.
gleaming creek
I don't think a normal person can walk 4m in 1 second
shell kettle
Average walking speed (at a brisk pace) is 4 MPH
livid haven
A unit is a unit. It's all a matter of whether everything else is also to that scale.
gleaming creek
Why is your waking speed in MPH? That's not helpful
shell kettle
I can change it to meters per second but it's the same value in Unreal Engine regardless
livid haven
Probably because he's American and he can just convert from MPH to m/s. ๐
Not sure why you think that's a big deal.
livid haven
That's not his problem. ๐
shell kettle
6.43738 km/h is average walking speed (at a brisk pace)
Which is very slow in-engine
livid haven
Again, are you talking about from first person or from third person?
shell kettle
First person in my case
livid haven
Does it feel slow when viewed from the character's perspective or does it feel slow when watching a character walk at that speed?
Alright, so check the latter then.
shell kettle
Alright will do
gleaming creek
I think the problem is that a speed of, say, 200, is about realistic
livid haven
Then you'll have a better sense of whether it's something actually being wrong with your numbers/the math or whether it's just that it feels slow because we're all used to much faster paced movement.
gleaming creek
but it feels annoyingly slow in a game
shell kettle
^^
livid haven
Agreed. But we can actually confirm that it's not an actual math error.
gleaming creek
Bear in mind that if you make a room in UE4 that's 2m x 2m x 3m
it feels really tiny
shell kettle
Pretty sure it's just because we are used to faster characters. It looks normal in 3rd person
gleaming creek
even though that's a reasonably-sized room in real life
shell kettle
I think that might have to do with camera settings
gleaming creek
Quite likely
livid haven
Yep, figured it would probably look fine in 3rd person.
And yes, there are a lot of factors about sense of scale that get weird with FPS.
Hopping from a "flat" 3D view to VR makes it really, really apparent.
shell kettle
What I've found to be somewhat "realistic" in UE4 so far is:
Max Walk speed = 300
Braking Deceleration Walking = 514
Jump Velocity = 372
Capsule Half Height = 85
Mass = 150
livid haven
Also, most animations you see for your characters arms and legs and such in FPS games are entirely faked and separate from the third person animations.
shell kettle
Hmm well I'm going to attempt to make everything as realistic as possible (horror game)
shell kettle
Haha that's amazing
livid haven
shell kettle
Haha the Mirrors Edge third person is crazy. Must just be very simple 3rd person anims
livid haven
It looks awful and broken, because it's entirely made to look good from first person, with a camera that's not exactly accurate.
Actual third person animations will look very weird in first person without a lot more tech.
They may be accurate, but they won't feel right.
shell kettle
Don't most games have separate third and first person models / anims?
livid haven
Correct
Mirror's Edge didn't have a third person mode. This is someone just forcing the 3rd person model to play 1st person animations.
Whereas Star Citizen doesn't use separate 1st and 3rd person models or animations, so they have a lot of tech put into getting it to look right.
shell kettle
The head bob in that game is pretty weird to me
I wonder which one is easier. I guess it depends on how much accuracy you want from client to client
livid haven
What do you mean by which is easier?
Star Citizen has obscene amounts of tech effort put into doing this.
Because... reasons.
Somewhere between pedantry and immersion.
shell kettle
Like if you go for the 2 model method as opposed to 1. Which would be harder to maintain and add more features for
livid haven
It's much easier to just have 2 models and sets of animations.
shell kettle
So it comes down to how much integrity you want
livid haven
I think maybe ARMA does the 1 model and animation set approach? Which is a simulator.
And Star Citizen also verges on simulator in terms of fidelity.
shell kettle
Thus the insane amount of processing power required to run it :P
livid haven
Practically speaking, it's kind of an indulgence to try for that level of fidelity.
SC? Nah, that's got more to do with their networking and replication, but that's a little more off-topic.
livid haven
They were (and somewhat still are) missing crucial engine technology for a massively multiplayer open world game.
Both of those present a lot of complexities with regards to performance even just in terms of networking.
TL;DR: For a very long time, you were receiving network updates for every object on the server, which is a whole star system.
shell kettle
Wow! They didn't think to only update objects nearby?
opaque salmon
so I can get my landscape spline component from the landscape using get component by class, but I can't cast it to spline component to be used in anything related to splines, am I missing something here or are landscape splines completely unreferenceable? I think they're supposed to be non-editable at runtime but I'm just trying to access transforms to move characters around
livid haven
They did, but it's a matter of handling it within their insane 64-bit, nested frames-of-reference system. It's just not done yet. ๐คท
shell kettle
Ah okay. I wish them the best of luck. Would love to see the completed game someday.
livid haven
@opaque salmon Warning: I have no familiarity with any of that
But
No, the Landscape Splines Component is not related to the Spline Component.
livid haven
Without C++, I don't see any way to access spline info at runtime.
opaque salmon
that's weird
livid haven
I mean, it'd be nice if it wasn't that way, but it's not particularly weird.
As in, it's not unusual.
livid haven
Okay. It's not surprising that this data isn't readily accessible via a nice API, because probably no one at Epic has needed it, and no one's made enough of a stink about needing it. ๐
wintry glade
Hello!! Do you guys know how can I get the 100% of quality on a material? Iโm feeding a live 1080p from elgato 4K capture card on a box, but the final result looks kinda blurry and weird
My live feed is set as emissive material
With a 0 on metallic and roughness
Is it my camera or the material? Iโm confused ๐คท๐ผโโ๏ธ
chilly gale
Has anybody else lost a level just trying to move the level icon into a new folder. I was playing about testing a height-map and didn't worry to much where the save was but as I worked it I decided I'd like to keep it and moved, (well tried to) only to find UE4 couldn't save it and tossed the whole thing to vapour ware, feels like file management is broken in 4.20. all I have left it the data file and I'm not sure I can rebuild from that without or even with the right tools
faint horizon
@livid haven https://youtu.be/_7GG0y8Jmcs?t=720 here's one of the frankfurt devs talking about their current vision stabilization solution for star citizen
they have a lot of interesting talks. it just reminded me is all, I don't really have anything to say about it besides that
shell kettle
Would a spring arm not stabilize the camera?
faint horizon
in this case, the camera is attached directly to the eye
so they needed a vision stabilization solution
shell kettle
Ah I see
faint horizon
they have a lot of these weird sticking points -- for example, they revealed just this month the work they're doing on:
-fluffy 100km voxel clouds with working lighting and shadow i.e. a nightmare
-procedural character customization tech with characters with different skull shapes sizes and morphing between them and cosmetics like helmets, glasses, hats, etc. i.e. a completely different nightmare
shell kettle
Dang. They are going all out.
faint horizon
yeah well I guess they have the budget for it so
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
https://youtu.be/CUoSOhTJPqI gas clouds talk
shell kettle
They are basically banking on the fact that technologies will advance to that level
faint horizon
yeah I mean any way I state it, basically any element of what they're working on is a risky endeavor
shell kettle
And that is why I support them :P
faint horizon
https://youtu.be/MZqndIW6Hxc face tech talk
I don't want to crowd up the chat too much with the embedded videos so I just provided the standard links instead
if these techniques prove to be successful, I'd be really interested in seeing them in other engines and games. I know that (some of) the face tech CIG and 3lateral's been working on has been shown off in UE4 thanks to 3lateral
shell kettle
Wow this is amazing. I wonder how much work is done in Maya to get this working correctly
faint horizon
they talk about that a little bit
oh there's also a talk about cloth physics implementations and future work on tearing etc. so I'm looking forward to that too, uh -- the star citizen youtube account has most of the talks uploaded, they're uploading them about every day
shell kettle
I really appreciate how they are keeping immersion has the top priority. Simple additions like the cutscenes where the characters turn to face you while talking are great.
I don't keep up with it too much. I usually just come back every now and then to find out what they've done since I last checked
faint horizon
they usually have talks every mid-october
livid haven
Aye, whatever you think of CIG/SC/CR, there's certainly an argument to be made that they're producing some really interesting and novel tech for the industry to learn from.
faint horizon
yeah, definitely
livid haven
Whether they specifically share it or not, it's not like they can wipe their employees minds - people move, people share their expertise. So long as no one's straight up transporting copyright code.
shell kettle
I guess it depends on the agreement they make when put on the team
livid haven
No doubt industry standard.
No sharing copyrighted materials. Because copyrighted materials.
I've posted tiny, tiny snippets of Fortnite code as examples, as that's generally not an issue.
faint horizon
CIG has bugfixing segments for the community where they go over some of the code, what it does, and how one of the devs would usually go about fixing those bugs
no clue how that relates to the agreement, but it probably lines up with what you're saying
livid haven
Right, but he doesn't just do that on a whim - it's a whole show segment.
faint horizon
mhm
livid haven
Him showing that code is literally part of his responsibilities in doing his job and it's being cleared by the company to be shown.
faint horizon
ah yeah fair
but yeah, you're probably right about the industry standard agreements
livid haven
Anything you write at work/for work/using work resources is owned by your employer. If you reproduce these things, you must do it with their permission.
As ever with IP, it's all a matter of enforcement.
If your employer doesn't make a fuss, you're "okay".
If they do, they have the right to.
faint horizon
it's always a really interesting thought, wondering where publicly available engines and tech will be in 5 or 10 years, as much as it is hard to guess sometimes
shell kettle
I could use some help in #blueprint or #legacy-physics if any of you are willing!
faint horizon
like 10 years ago, I'm oversimplifying but braid and world of goo and spelunky (most notably) came out and newgrounds was still really popular, kinda created a perfect storm for interest in the indie scene
5 years ago, hell. the walking dead was out the year before, dear esther came out the year before, gone home came out, I think twine was starting to see some cool games come out -- so I guess here I could say narrative experiences and walking sims were both becoming a thing. there's also some less fortunate stuff to talk about from this time period uh, that I probably won't go into but yeah
a lot happens in 5 years and even more happens in 10 years
livid haven
@plush yew No. We don't do this at all.
Human don't translate their head to maintain a consistent point of view.
We barely have any capacity to do so in the first place.
No. Your head doesn't float at the same height from the ground when you run.
Your head bobs. Unlike a birds.
We've got brain software that stabilizes the perceived image, we don't have hardware that's stabilizing our cameras the way birds do.
It's not something you can really quite translate to a game - have to trigger the human brain to do it, like VR sometimes can trigger certain effects.
Our brains do a lot of weird shit to make up for information overload or limited sensory input, like the illusion of color perception in your peripheral vision - hint: You can't sense color in your peripheral vision.
terse skiff
the brain is super neat
bitter iris
Hey guys, how would I add LODs per level stream landscape?
terse skiff
I've studied neurology and it's so trippy
livid haven
Ah, yeah, microsaccades.
That's a very arbitrary line to draw.
It's all chemistry and physics. It doesn't care whether it's silicon or whatever nerve bundles are made of.
faint horizon
an especially interesting line considering all the research into neural networks that's going on right now
livid haven
Which can't be measured and can be neither proven nor disproven, yada yada, we can go right back to Descartes and end up nowhere with this.
The brain does learn. Because the brain physically and chemically changes.
Because the neural network changes, in the physical world.
Those changes are there, not just in your conscious experience of reality.
weary basalt
Guys, not sure how this is relevant to #ue4-general ? #lounge is probably where you need to be.
livid haven
It's relevant to image stabilization in games, I'd say.
weary basalt
Unless your talking implementation in Unreal, this isnt relevant to this channel.
livid haven
This started from a tangent about first person vs third person animations and the things we do to make it feel right in first person that are wrong otherwise.
We're definitely getting into the weeds with this though, sure.
faint horizon
thanks for the heads-up, DevilsD!
polar hawk
weary basalt
What does Star Citizen have to do with Unreal? @plush yew Your discussion thus far has little to do with Unreal and is thus offtopic for this channel. Please move to #lounge.
livid haven
@weary basalt I'm moving to #lounge, but I can answer that. We were talking about 1st person vs 3rd person animations and authoring them, because someone tried to make their pawn walk at a realistic speed but it felt super slow.
Until they looked at it in 1st person and it looked right, but still felt slow from 1st person.
I posted a couple of videos of how different animations can be, including Firewatch, Mirror's Edge, and Star Citizen (which doesn't use separate animations).
weary basalt
Fair enough, whatever the initial discussion was about, you guys wandered pretty far offtopic IMO.
livid haven
Sure, not debating that.
weary basalt
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dim arch
is it possible to stream additional asset data into a build?
for example I have a mobile project which needs to 'download' additional expansion content depending on if the client has it unlocked or not
snow crown
the script plugin does
it's not great but it works
it's more of an example of how to add scripting languages to the engine
there is a readme in it's plugin folder for how to set it up since epic doesn't have redist rights for the lua source
you have to do some work to get it working
regal mulch
@dim arch Well UE4 gives you these mobile download nodes
They are for downloading and installing stuff if you apk is too big otherwise
e.g. you upload only the startscreen with the download functions and the rest is downoaded and mounted later
So you can do that
Pretty sure the whole "mount data" stuff is the same in the end
Hm, strange Issue. Got an Infinite Loop with FLevelEditorViewportClient::FindViewComponentForActor(Actor) when clicking on my pawn after ejecting.
The pawn has a Weapon attached and apparently Pawn has the Weapon as Attached Actor and other way round, so they constantly find themselves here:
// now see if any actors are attached to us, directly or indirectly, that have an active camera component we might want to use
// we will just return the first one.
// #note: assumption here that attachment cannot be circular
if (PreviewComponent == nullptr)
{
TArray<AActor*> AttachedActors;
Actor->GetAttachedActors(AttachedActors);
for (AActor* AttachedActor : AttachedActors)
{
USceneComponent* const Comp = FindViewComponentForActor(AttachedActor);
if (Comp)
{
PreviewComponent = Comp;
break;
}
}
}
The Attach stuff is only called once and only the Weapon is attached to the Pawn. This hasn't been changed since months and was working a few days ago.
Well "Infinite Loop" is rather a "Stack Overflow" but we
I love the #note in the comments though
paper kernel
that does sounds like an infinite loop, for a moment
would rather check through all components, and if none found then use root
regal mulch
Yeah well that's engine code
That's the only point at which I attach. Disconnecting this stops the crash. So no Idea why the attaching is circular
paper kernel
๐ค and this is called on both client and server
regal mulch
No, but the test case is not even multiplayer
It happens in simple singleplayer case
paper kernel
is the weapon OnRep?
regal mulch
Yeah, however I'm not doing any Attachment in that
At least not regarding the Weapon and the Pawn.
- Disconnecting the nodes from aboves screenshot stop this.
And the OnRep is still connected
I'm kinda feeling an engine bug -.-
paper kernel
unless someone was witty and added self-attachment to the weapon
regal mulch
That someone would be me and the weapon has no attachment code
And again, the above code is the only code that attaches weapon and pawn.
Disconnecting it stops the StackOverflow and the Weapon is def not attached anymore after that.
Guess I have to dig into engine code and see what the node does in 4.20
Also can't find a warning about Circular attachment in the log.
The AttachToComponent node has a save for that
paper kernel
you could add DoOnce and print who tried to call the attachment
dim arch
thanks @regal mulch will look into it
regal mulch
@paper kernel Only thing calling to it is the desired path of -> OnPossessed -> ClientRPC -> AssignCustomizations -> SpawnAndEquipWeapon.
That's the only StackTrace that prints. So this should be fine.
(That's the execution path for the offline/local client, as they have the Customization Data locally already)
regal mulch
Just tried not spawning the default loadout and then going to a weapon pickup. Results in the same when ejecting and selecting the pawn after picking up the weapon
So as soon as I attach the Weapon to the Pawn, Eject and Select that Pawn, it does that.
Let's try to attach an empty actor to it /shrug
paper kernel
it could be weird engine quirks, like if you add destroy actor to construction script
you get red log
regal mulch
There is nothing in the logs sadly
paper kernel
wait, is eject considered possession?
then it would be called twice
then it would be simple check of is the attached weapon same as current weapon
also is there a delegate for possessing pawns? I could use one but didn't find any
regal mulch
Eject is unpossessing if at all
Not sure about the delegates
Found the issue, but this never happend before.
I call Bug in 4.20. I have a HatMesh on the Pawn that gets attached to the Weapon.
That seems to throw the Pawn as an Attached Actor into the Weapon
Whyever, weirdly enough I selected my pawn multiple times ejected in 4.20 already. it only started like 2 days ago and the code hasn't been touched in ages.
I now move the HatMesh instead of attaching it...
-.- now I need to do that on tick
paper kernel
I dunno what the engine is doing in the background, I get unsaved asset notifications on actors I have not touched in weeks
regal mulch
Yeah well, I made the Hat Comp an Actor now
And move that via Attachment around
That does not cause the bug anymore
tidal cape
Is the looking for talent chat also for individuals looking for an partner (Not paid)
static viper
sounds the same XD
paper kernel
๐ค sure I guess
paper kernel
but I would say you will have better luck asking people directly
paper kernel
I was thinking more of a reddit pitch
paper kernel
ikr
static viper
people will steal his idea
regal mulch
Might be better for the #cpp people
This channel here is more for stuff that doesn't fit into the other channels.
Or that covers multiple topics at once and you can't decide /shrug
paper kernel
question; I need to get image of sort from class defaults to widget, which variable type should I be using?
soft object reference?
wintry glade
good morning!! Any help would be much appreciated. It's the 4th day that I can't figure out why my media player on any surface is kinda smudgy and blurry. is it the camera? Is it the player itself? I am feeding it a 1080p video and the result is really bad - at least not sharp at all. Nothing like the source.
plush yew
Is there any way I can downgrade unreal engine 4.20 to 4.19.2? or can i download 4.19.2 anywhere?
paper kernel
PIE: Error: Blueprint Runtime Error: "Accessed None trying to read Class from property Skill".
which part of valid index did it stutter
plush yew
wow, im dumb. you can click the '+' sign next to engine versions
paper kernel
(โฏยฐโกยฐ๏ผโฏ๏ธต โปโโป
wintry glade
@paper kernel -> #blueprint
static viper
you arent even asking my questions you pleb
XD
thats how help taking you are XD
here get your table
(โฏยฐโกยฐ๏ผโฏ๏ธต โปโโป
paper kernel
โฌโโฌ ใ( ใ-ใใ)
look, im just itsy bitsy curious what's the difference on IsValidIndex and =! null
because =! works
paper kernel
ye
static viper
...
paper kernel
then what is the purpose of IsValidIndex if it can't tell is it empty or not
languid shard
anyone here with some ARCore/UE4 experience ?
static viper
valid index has an input
it can ask for a specific one
not if the array is valid
just the index
like select for nothing
it is a specific node
you can easily use both in cases
paper kernel
wait, so it only queries is the index within array size?
paper kernel
forloop to create child-widgets based on array size
static viper
so like array length create items in inventory?
paper kernel
yea
paper kernel
index was
paper kernel
anyways ill go with =! since it seems to work
paper kernel
and ill keep flipping tables
wintry glade
that's unfortunate, every single forum I find related to the media texture resolution is resulting in people moving to Unity. Interesting.
languid shard
@wintry glade whats up with it ?
wintry glade
it's bad. It's really bad.
languid shard
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static viper
show material
wintry glade
here I tried to stream yesterday -- after 9th min https://www.twitch.tv/videos/329184747
languid shard
muted
wintry glade
streaming 1080p to UE media texture
languid shard
right lets see
languid shard
fortnite dog ? ๐ค
static viper
i got overwatch