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ebon leaf
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You are greedy, expecting both a yes and a no on one email. Tsk Tsk

delicate dove
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hehe

summer jacinth
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Anyone whos having issues with release dates and such with the marketplace, Stephanie said shes going to get things rolling, since there seems to be a lack of communication going on. Shes going to be checking out the tickets and being to release assets to grease the wheels.

delicate dove
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rather sad that someone who is taking time off and pregnant having to sort this clusterfff

zealous ibex
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Wow, stephanie is awesome ๐Ÿ‘ But agreed with luos there ๐Ÿค”

ebon leaf
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im assuming

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this is really bad

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because its yellow

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anyone know how to optimize this material... like what is the standard procedure for optimizing a material

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wrong section, my b

manic jasper
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It's always yellow that's just the font color @ebon leaf

wooden falcon
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77 instructions is pretty low

long sand
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So I got my mo they report almost 12 hours ago but no money in paypal yet. :/

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Anyone

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Got paid yet :D?

summer jacinth
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@long sand nope, haven't been paid yet

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Epic must have run out of money

silver moat
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@Shirk#7842 Don't worry about it. It'll come sooner or later. Just don't forget to include in your testament to which one of your children the pay should go.

long sand
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I need beer money for the weekend :(

split iron
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Anyone know when the summer sale will start?

zealous ibex
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@Pirate#0587 Did you earn >100$ in net? They only pay you out if the due balance they need to pay you is more than 100$ US

summer jacinth
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I still haven't been paid

delicate dove
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I just had an email that the money was wired.

summer jacinth
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And @Vaei#5603 it starts in the 18th

delicate dove
summer jacinth
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I got my email for the payout report yesterday

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No moeg today

delicate dove
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money didnt arrive on my bank yet though

zealous ibex
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@delicate dove RIP, maybe he pirated the asset & it turned out to not work and he's claiming to buy it to not sound suspicious)? No clue lol, but BlobAstonished

wooden falcon
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cool, got the email telling me to send my files in for my submission...at least I wasn't rejected on step 1

summer jacinth
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Lets hope there is no rejection on Step 2

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Or you know, long wait times, revoking releases, lack of feedback, etc

wooden falcon
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yah, hope not...but I'm going on vacation until Monday night, so won't be able to submit until maybe Tuesday

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anyways, talk to you guys Monday

zealous ibex
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Have fun on your vacation ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

split iron
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@summer jacinth thanks!

sullen lion
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RE: Luos's youtube commenter- maybe he just doesn't know how to use it.

merry totem
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Anyone here have experience getting a game on Steam?

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I am seriously considering the idea of attempting to get my game on steam. But I need to do a couple more content updates first.

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weird my text is red :X

gloomy bramble
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@merry totem yep

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whats up

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if you feel you dont have enough content you're probably right

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dont ship it with little content

ebon leaf
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how long does the staging process take?

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my submission has been aprooved, yet I havent been contacted since about a month

zealous ibex
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I'd quickly send them an email

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It usually takes a little while, but a month is rather a lot...even for the marketplace it's standards

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It took me ~3-ish weeks due to not having all my payment info filled out, but that was ~half a year ago when BP review took a mere month

ebon leaf
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aw I havent filled that out

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I mean the payment info

summer jacinth
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@ebon leaf there has been a lot of issues with the marketplace lately, tons of us have been waiting a month plus without any response

ebon leaf
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thanks for responses, @summer jacinth I dunno whether it is necessary for me to fill in the Tax Reporting form in my Epic account?

summer jacinth
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Only if you are in the US I believe

ebon leaf
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thanks ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

merry totem
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@gloomy bramble right now I have about 1 hour and change worth of content. Much more if you account for New Game Plus

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I am thinking that I want to start getting the wheels rolling after my next content patch which fixes a lot of issues as well as makess it so all weapon view models are in place.

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My focus on the game right now is to get the foundation in place so I can add a shit ton of levels weapons and enemies without having to worry about getting the core systems in a functional state anymore

zealous ibex
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I think you have to fill everything out, not 100% sure tho

ebon leaf
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@zealous ibex well I hope not since I dont understand what should I fill in in Tax Reporting section :/ I dunno whats my Tax ID

fleet garnet
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you only have to fill out things that have this start * if you are not in US, if you are you have to fill out everything

zealous ibex
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^ Yup, I didn't really understand it either, but just filling in the * fields seemed to work ๐Ÿค”

delicate dove
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looking at the assorted gun vfx pack.
its not a bad pack, but the water impact effect is a joke.

tiny water splash effect with 15.5k verts and a 425 instruction shader. two of em being emitted as seperate drawcalls. and then some other effects

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if you are shooting this with an uzi or anything faster you'll crash and burn most computers

gaunt flicker
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Where is your gun vfx pack hmm?

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HMM?

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Because I need one <_<

wooden falcon
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what if you're shooting your computer with an uzi?

real dust
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Luos' point stands

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In regards to shooting with an UZI or anything faster: "you'll crash and burn most computers"

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THough, to be fair, I suspect you'll also crash and burn most computers with something slower than an UZI. Maybe not burn, actually, but crash

gaunt flicker
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Aye, as someone who almost exclusively works with shooters

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I've killed many a machine with bad vfx

plucky cosmos
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Hi,
I have problems with assets i put it in to my project but doesnt appear the materials and textures

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It happens in every single model

delicate dove
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@plucky cosmos dont just copy-paste stuff, migrate it.
@gaunt flicker cubits content on marketplace is imho fooking solid

gaunt flicker
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Aye, is solid

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Also not the cheapest for your gpu

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But the tradeoff for coolness is justified

delicate dove
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i havent had to use the pack myself, basically when someone asks me to make gun-stuff I point em at cubits stuff.

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wonder how optimized it is actually

gaunt flicker
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I absolutely can't use them with a minigun

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:p

delicate dove
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hehe, ill keep it in mind if i ever have a client who wants me top optimize it

silver moat
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When you're writing package description and have that awkward feeling of knowing your submission will be rejected after a long wait.

wooden falcon
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

leaden root
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Man that sale should be getting close right?

zealous kelp
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18th i think

summer jacinth
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18th to the 1st I think

zealous kelp
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buyers need time to get their purchase cards ready because after all the epic security leaks having a credit card with no purchase limit linked to your account is not sensible....at least the sale goes for some time anyway

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I only know about it because I saw a seller mention it in here

zealous ibex
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So pissed plugin submissions are taking so long ๐Ÿ˜› It'd have been great to have my plugins in the summer sale ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

leaden root
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I wonder if Personel will go on sale

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Pretty much any % is a massive cost decrease on that thing

zealous kelp
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yeah its like 250 or something isnt it

delicate dove
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you know what would be fucked. if they release the entire list of things still pending during sale

zealous ibex
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Yeah, I had a pack released like a week or so after a sale, barely got anything the first few months. (tho that was still a lot back then compared to now lol). It'd really suck for the people who are getting released tho ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

delicate dove
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<_< Epic hasnt paid me yet. everyone seems to have gotten their money

ebon leaf
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last time that happened to me - I had to wait until the next month -.- didn't matter how many people I emaield and hassled

delicate dove
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I hope that wont be the case for me, because this would happen exactly in a month where I need it to pay the fooking rent

true roost
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Hello guys, i sent a marketplace submission 12 days ago but i don't receive any answer. This is the first time i submit an asset to the marketplace and i'm not sure if i should wait more or if my submit got lost. Is this normal?

ebon leaf
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at the moment - yep -.-

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still email them anyways though

delicate dove
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6

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atm they are rather slow so it might take a while. do email them again if you feel like it though.

true roost
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Thanks for the answer

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should i email them tho (reply them) or in this case i just should re-submit my asset?

ebon leaf
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don't resubmit. Either email them or wait patiently for the four horsemen of the apocalypse XD

wicked pebble
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Y'all are terrible lol

true roost
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LoL

ebon leaf
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XD honestly though - resubmitting will add more to the already slow process lol. I'd send them an email though ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

true roost
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So let's poke some Epic employees. They're going to either accept my submission or blacklist me for the eternity.

ebon leaf
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Yes... come to the dark side. rubs hands together

zealous ibex
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lol

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Yeah, waiting times (for email replies & submissions) are pretty long I'm afraid ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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Just hang on in there!

lean venture
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@true roost Have you tried tagging them all?

silver moat
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Steph still didn't answer my second PM either.

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Not sure what else to do.

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Should go through a WW3 to release a pack.

summer jacinth
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She's one staff member I believe when they say they are busy

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She's worked through the weekend to get stuff moving

silver moat
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Didn't work for me.

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No email replies neither PMs. There's no other line of communication.

summer jacinth
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Just send out a big email to Epic and CC all the marketplace staff

silver moat
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Actually let me create a new thread in the MP forum. It's pointless to hope for hearing back by waiting.

summer jacinth
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Don't post in the creators hub

silver moat
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Sure not.

summer jacinth
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Not enough exposure there to Epic and the public

stark zinc
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I don't know, but to me it sounds like people are actively slowing down everybody's response time by sending dozens of mails. Just from reading this channel I would dread seeing the inbox of the marketplace email address. Maybe just wait instead of trying to drown the poor marketplace guys in mails? People are saying the team at epic has too much on their hands and too few marketplace guys, but then people keep suggesting to send more mails, create more threads and pm more staff members. Doesn't sound like the best course of action to me. Just my thoughts. ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

silver moat
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I think 1 months is enough time for them to have double clicked the .uproject and take a look around. Or at least say "It's not reviewed yet". This practice of completely ignoring people when it comes to communication is why people tend to sent more emails. It's a known fact that sometimes after 2 months wait you find out they have somehow managed to miss your ticket and you're asked to send a new one. So waiting longer doesn't mean it'll be fine.

leaden root
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Well if you dont kick up a fuss, nothing will change

summer jacinth
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Id say the worst thing you can do is get complacent without seeing change.

zealous ibex
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Same here, ~1mo waiting without anything,heck, I've had 1 plugin that was submitted ~3w ago, but they filed it as an art/BP asset, and once I corrected them it was "refered". Not heard anything back lol

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Guess I'll be glad that I'm not the only one. It is a bummer about the waiting times tho ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

silver moat
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It is about 1 month since the files were sent but I've been trying to communicate with them for the past 2 weeks and they just don't write anything back. That's whats worrying, not the 1 month wait.

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Implementing a post like system where you can track your submission by entering your ticket number would be a cool thing.

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At leas you'd be able to know if they've receive it or its lost.

zealous ibex
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There is...kinda

sinful raven
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my menu kit took 3 months from submission until I got the mail for release date this week

zealous ibex
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You can create an account using your email if you've had previous contact or login if you know your password

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Just be sure not to use the Send & Solve button if you use it as a means to reply ๐Ÿ˜›

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(I didn't have my 2fa device a while back, so couldn't get into my email...but wanted to reply to a response they said, just in my rush I accidentally used the wrong send button lol)

fleet garnet
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July 20th, just got my release date, finally ๐Ÿ˜ƒ ๐Ÿ˜ƒ ๐Ÿ˜ƒ ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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I wish it was before the sale but better ever than never

zealous ibex
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Congrats ๐Ÿ˜ƒ ๐Ÿ‘

wooden falcon
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congrats!

zealous ibex
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Tho I'd personally try and ask if it can be pushed back

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You want to try and avoid being released around massive sales

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You won't really get noticed, and if you do, you'll be one of the few assets that isn't on sale

wooden falcon
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yah, you don't want to waste your opening week

zealous ibex
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And then after the sale, everyone has spent their marketplace budget....and won't buy your asset

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And your opening week/month is probably one of your most critical times for asset selling/exposure....I released just after the xmas sale and really hated the lack of sales in the first few weeks compared to the adverage sales. (I know this isn't really a metric, but I heard other people suffered sales in the weeks after the large sale too)

wooden falcon
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I released right near xmas

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it was...not good

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at the time, I was like "oh man, that's coming out quicker than I expected, cool!"

zealous ibex
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๐Ÿ˜› Yeah, I went from submit -> release in 2 months...and that included me spending ~2 weeks trying to get my payment info etc filled out lol

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Skeletronix was almost a year from submission to release Oh my ๐Ÿ˜ฎ The marketplace never siezes to amaze me

fleet garnet
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Don't know what to do, I have to send them the latest files and that will extend it a bit

silver moat
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@fleet garnet What did you do to get your package released?

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๐Ÿค”

quick geyser
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Someone knows something similar in the marketplace as the fighting system in RE7?

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Talking about melee + shooting

silver moat
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@rare lynx ๐Ÿ˜„

fleet garnet
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@rare lynx got it right ๐Ÿ˜‰

silver moat
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Anybody willing to share how much sales they make from different stores compared to ue4 marketplace?

wooden falcon
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i make very little, in any store

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but between ue4, unity, and gumroad, I sell much more in ue4

wooden falcon
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event sale is up!

leaden root
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Woo

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Uh

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Ok

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Haha

wooden falcon
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hmmm, someone must have hit a button

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๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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I'm thinking that wasn't meant to go online just yet

leaden root
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All these 15-20% offs are making me very flacid

wooden falcon
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lol, not only did they turn it off, they removed the Event link

gaunt flicker
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:o

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Sale starting late?

wooden falcon
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dunno, it was up, not it's not ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

leaden root
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Sale is back up

leaden root
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Personnel only 30% off, takes off like $75 off the price

humble stag
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gaunt flicker
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Lmao

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someone added tags to one of my assets

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hilarious

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Says we can add tags, but is view only? :o

humble stag
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I think I might remove tags from the spreadsheet all together, people never really filled them out, and I dont think they are too useful in the document.

gaunt flicker
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Where do you even fill them out

humble stag
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Oh, those fields used to be open for edit, I dont know why they are locked now. Eh, I'll remove it over to the right side

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There, Moved tags out of sight, out of mind. ๐Ÿ˜„

ebon leaf
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lol so it would appear epic missed a few assets at least for the sale. Why am I not surprised XD

gaunt flicker
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Or seller didn't respond?

ebon leaf
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nope... one of mine. I got an email confirming it would be on sale XD

gaunt flicker
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Doh

ebon leaf
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and there's another dev that has confirmed they missed on of theirs too lol

gaunt flicker
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I would have liked an email that the sale has started on my assets, but I figure theres no automation for that

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

ebon leaf
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there's no automation for anything ๐Ÿ˜› you know that

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well, except for mistakes XD

gaunt flicker
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ahahah

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I have the cheapest asset in the sale

ebon leaf
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lol linter?

gaunt flicker
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Generic Air Drop

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$0.50

ebon leaf
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oh lol XD damn, I paid like $2.50 for that one. Ripped off. angrily emails you XD

gaunt flicker
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Ayeee

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Request a refund

ebon leaf
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lol

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@humble stag I've said it before, but I fucking love you for making that spreadsheet XD so much easier than sifting through 48 pages of the damn marketplace

gaunt flicker
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Generic Shooter is apparently #6 in adjusted rating ig you ignore free assets

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If only price was considered :D

humble stag
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Its almost faster to make the spreadsheet then to go over 48 sale pages

ebon leaf
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haha yeah it would be XD

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@gaunt flicker lol @ 51% off XD

gaunt flicker
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Yeah dawg

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I'm no pleb

ebon leaf
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lol

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"LESS THAN HALF PRICE"

gaunt flicker
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fo' sho

ebon leaf
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dayum. Cel shader pack is $4.50 from $45 lol

humble stag
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Is the marketplace slightly slow to load right now, or is it just me?

gaunt flicker
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Lol: List price sum: 76k

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Sale price sum: 22k

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Entire mp is 60% off

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Buy the 'complete marketplace bundle' today

humble stag
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22k for every asset? Its a steal.

gaunt flicker
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If I had stupid money I'd probably buy every asset

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Just because

sullen lion
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I uh. I know its a known thing that the MP is bad in many ways... but. uh. how do you just miss items in a sale?

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as a marketplace

gaunt flicker
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MP product description:

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You can use <b> for bold

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uses <b>

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does not bold

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dfjkghdfjkghd

ebon leaf
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@sullen lion lol... yep. It's ridiculous.

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@gaunt flicker yeah... I told them about that in a thread months back when it first happened. They acknowledged my post too and said they'd forward it to the dev guys... and... well, tbh, I'm surprised they haven't broken it as a result XD

lone mountain
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hmm

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Having a hard time finding anything good on sale

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Anything "good" seems to just picked a low sale % to get on the sale

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Also

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Still hate I don't get to pick categories

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filter/sort by categories under Event Sale

ebon leaf
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yeah... it's frustrating lol

lone mountain
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I mean

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they HAVE a filter

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AND a SORT

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However...not the options any reasonable consumer would want

gaunt flicker
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You want discoverability?

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Discover the door

lone mountain
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rahahah

ebon leaf
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someone shouild make a marketplace plugin with all this shit in it and sell it ON the marketplace XD

lone mountain
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hmm

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too bad it would take 2-4 months

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totally miss this sale

gaunt flicker
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My custom marketplace frontend didn't convert enough people for me to maintain it

sullen lion
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that was a good 1 allar

ebon leaf
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and Epic have promised that things are changing so it'll be fixed by then /manages to keep straight face

lone mountain
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So, you guys find anything good in the sale yet?

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If so, page numbers please

gaunt flicker
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I'm browsing the spreadsheet

ebon leaf
gaunt flicker
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I have so far bought zero things

ebon leaf
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I bought everything b y Dapper Raptor Development... that guy seems to make quality stuff ๐Ÿ˜‰ XD

lone mountain
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ah wait

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didn't read past messages

gaunt flicker
lone mountain
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he made a freaking spreadsheet

ebon leaf
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haha yeah he made it last sale. Autoupdates

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very useful lol

lone mountain
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what the...

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teach me senpai @humble stag

gaunt flicker
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I have a server running that pulls down the entire mp catalog and stores it in a database, its been running for over 2 years now lmao

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I wrote myself an API but at some point I should probably make it public

lone mountain
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@ebon leaf let's see what you have for sale %

ebon leaf
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haha everything is 50% for me... well it should be

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epic missed healthkit, even though they confirmed it ๐Ÿ˜‚

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oh shit I have a heap of stuff from you the other day I haven't read yet @lone mountain lol... sorry :p opened the message in the wee hours of the morning haha.

lone mountain
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Yeah you suck

ebon leaf
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haha sorry ๐Ÿ˜› will take a look soon

lone mountain
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I figured it out on my own

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But there's still a bug in your system

ebon leaf
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then hopefully your investigatory work will result in an update lol

lone mountain
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Maybe ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

ebon leaf
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my apologies though ๐Ÿ˜› sometimes time zones make australian life annoying XD

lone mountain
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You Aussies and your excuses

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๐Ÿ˜‰

ebon leaf
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lol :p

lone mountain
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But nah, it's no biggie.

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hmm

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well this is annoying

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Website Cart and Launcher Cart aren't sync'd

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Guess I'll just use website with the spreadsheet

ebon leaf
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you act surprised XD

wicked pebble
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Pff, are you new, @lone mountain?

lone mountain
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Well

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I don't usually buy from MP

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And it's been a long time

ebon leaf
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0.o

lone mountain
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Since I've looked at it

ebon leaf
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theres a fucking duck emote

wicked pebble
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There is not ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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It's allars

lone mountain
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๐Ÿฆ†

wicked pebble
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lmao

lone mountain
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:allar:

wicked pebble
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๐Ÿฆ†

lone mountain
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There's a duck

ebon leaf
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omfg allar XD that is amazing haha

gaunt flicker
wicked pebble
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Yep

gaunt flicker
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Click on a link in browser
See screenshots
Scream in horror

wicked pebble
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lmao..

gaunt flicker
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... that name

sullen lion
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Would Clutter have been better?

gaunt flicker
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I wonder how โ€ข โ€ข โ€ข โ€ข gets sorted

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The duck isn't even on sale

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I am disappointed

ebon leaf
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you don't put mozart's symphonies on sale, nor picasso's great works... so why should the duck!

gaunt flicker
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The FatUnicorn isn't on sale either

gaunt flicker
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If anyone is interested, here is the list of all assets with AAA in their description

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The AAA list

ebon leaf
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so much ironbelly XD

lone mountain
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I thought they couldn't add AAA to their descriptions?

humble stag
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duck is missing from that list

lone mountain
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Or was that just their Asset names?

gaunt flicker
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Just the name

lone mountain
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ah

gaunt flicker
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If you buy every AAA asset right now

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It'll cost you $2000

lone mountain
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But, if you make AAA game with the AAA art, you'll make millions

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@gaunt flicker Any chance you could add a custom URL slot for your linter? Like, if I was extending/modifying my own based off yours.

gaunt flicker
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It doesn't pull from the github live

lone mountain
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ah

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boo

gaunt flicker
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Its got a crapton of config settings though

lone mountain
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I can filter out

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okay

gaunt flicker
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They are stored per project and can be source controlled like any other config

lone mountain
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Oh nice

leaden root
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I love your gif avatar @gaunt flicker

fleet garnet
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Both my assets are on 5th page, I expected to be last.

stark zinc
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Mine was around page 5, when the sale went online for a few minutes. Now it's on page 43 :/

zealous ibex
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lol, I really regret only putting mine on sale for 33% ๐Ÿค” I really should have gone for 50%

ebon leaf
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these big sales I always do at least 50%... people don't wanna buy stuff otherwise XD

zealous ibex
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Yeah....I used to do that when I charged $20, but charging $15 I was scared about over-doing it

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(as if I do the math, at a 33% sale I only get ~$7 after epic takes their cut)

ebon leaf
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yeah... I have two packs at $10 and they are selling for 50% off (or at least they will when Epic fix the one that they just ignored lol)... feelsbadman.jpg

zealous ibex
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(that'd be $5.25 if I went for 50%....which is barely anything)

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Hm true, I'll have to see if I can get it changed to 50% off FeelsRageMan

ebon leaf
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I'd be interested to know if they let you change. I doubt they do but lol if they do XD

zealous ibex
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If epic'd have approved my plugins I'd have put InventorySystem @ 50% off, but with only 1 asset ๐Ÿค”

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I doubt it, but it's worth trying right?

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When does the sale end again?

ebon leaf
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30th

zealous ibex
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Doubt I'll get a reply on time then FeelsBlobMan

ebon leaf
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lol true

zealous ibex
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Sent the email, I'll let you know the outcome if I get a reply ^^

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I've done a last minute 25% -> 50% change before, but that was before the actual sale started ๐Ÿ˜› I'm curious about their reply ^^

ebon leaf
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haha tbh, there's no reason they couldn't change it - BUT they probably don't want to in case everyone starts asking lol

zealous ibex
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Yeah that's what I'm thinking. I fully understand if they won't change it, as that makes sense, but I'm just going to try anyway lol

zealous ibex
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O.o, just posted my first Creators Hub thread. I hope I don't get killed lol

ebon leaf
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haha

split iron
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Any point holding out on the asset I want in hopes they'll increase the discount, or are those fixed for the duration?

zealous ibex
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We're not 100% sure, but they probably won't increase the discount. A. I'm not sure if epic even allows this, and B. Most sellers don't really plan on changing their discount amount (atleast the ones that I have talked to)

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So I guess you could wait, the sale lasts till the 30th, but I wouldn't have too much hope that the price will decrease I'm afraid ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

split iron
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Fair enough, thanks

ebon leaf
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Yeah. It's very unlikely. However I'm seein gmore people report missing content from the sale so it IS possible more content will be put on sale as Epic are abused via emails from us all ๐Ÿ˜›

split iron
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Ah it's just one specific item I was after, only 15% off (not that I'm complaining, better than 0% it was before!)

ebon leaf
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haha yeah. Any discount is better than no discount XD

zealous ibex
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I'd give it a few days, better wait than feel sorry, but I wouldn't personally get my hopes up too much ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

split iron
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Thanks for the advice

zealous ibex
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wow, vega threading is like a billion % off ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

ebon leaf
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that thing was like 50 cents during the flash sale I think XD

split iron
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What's that actually cost? I don't remember

zealous ibex
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Yeah, the sales are gud

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It's usually $4.99 I believe, but wow, keep being amazed by sale percentages lol

split iron
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Well if they sell it at a huge discount there's more word of mouth I guess

zealous ibex
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wow, skull's shaders are a pretty good deal too ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

split iron
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Seeing as those two know each other and employ the same strategies ๐Ÿ˜›

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And.. I'm sure you knew that

zealous ibex
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๐Ÿ˜›

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Allar probably made the best deal tho, $50c for an asset ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

split iron
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I haven't looked at a lot of the sales, there's so much stuff to sift through

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I only buy something if it'll save me tonsss of time

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So far that's 1 thing, then the other I'll grab in this one

zealous ibex
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It's pretty funny to see that a lot of assets at the same price have roughly the same % off ๐Ÿค”

split iron
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I wonder if these music packs are ever really worth it, I can't imagine they'd fit too many games

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Well I suppose if you made one for 8/16-bit sidescrollers that fits most as an example

zealous ibex
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I bought one for a little over a dollar last year (winter sale), it was a pretty cool deal ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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Still not sure if it's a legal pack tho ๐Ÿค” (I bought it legally, but there was some talk of the assets within the pack not being legal)

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Anyway, that's enough marketplace analytics for now ๐Ÿ˜› I'd better get off & do some more work on some actual assets

modern perch
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I picked that one up too

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probably dodgy as fuck but I'll use it for gamejams etc xD

ebon leaf
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kinda surprised the forums aren't full of "MY PACK IS ON SALE" like usual ๐Ÿ˜›

zealous ibex
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๐Ÿ˜› Yeah me too lol

ebon leaf
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I want to post in my threads that they are also on sale on itch.io and gumroad, and that there's a special bundle price on itch... but I don't wanna start that shit up XD

zealous ibex
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lol

delicate dove
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not everyone has woken up yet :p

ebon leaf
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lol true ๐Ÿ˜›

zealous ibex
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lol

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Is there any way to recieve email notification about threads? I've tried subscribing etc but nothing seems to send me an email? ๐Ÿค”

delicate dove
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forum ones? or marketplace ones?

ebon leaf
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it used to work... but I've not been getting emails for months now lol

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(forums)

zealous ibex
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Forum ones

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I wish the marketplace pages allowed me to get email notifications, but they simply don't ๐Ÿ˜›

delicate dove
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they should automatically unless you disabled something

zealous ibex
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Hm, odd ๐Ÿค”

ebon leaf
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nothing changed for me. Forum just stopped emailing me lol

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I figured "oh right... epic..." ๐Ÿ˜›

delicate dove
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lol

zealous ibex
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lol

quick geyser
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@gaunt flicker The screenshot with IronBelly weapons, is there an easy way to intigrate them with yout GenericShooter? I've been struggling with that for a while

wooden falcon
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it's last version supported is STILL 4.10

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the guy can send an email to request a sale, but can't click a checkbox?

delicate dove
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haha

ebon leaf
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lol... oh god

delicate dove
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gonna post that in my thread

stark zinc
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Hmm, how is that still on the marketplace? I thought packs that don't update get removed? Or was it "Epic can remove them"?

wooden falcon
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and booooo to all the 10% sales

stark zinc
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\o/ 15% ๐Ÿ˜›

summer jacinth
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@stark zinc youre assuming that Epic actually does much work

wooden falcon
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I'm sure they do way more than they should

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at least the mp people...they don't get enough support from management I'd recon

zealous ibex
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@ebon leaf Guess what? They wrote back within 12 hours and granted my request! โค

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50% off ftw

ebon leaf
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haha nice. Time to go and set up some scheduled emails asking for changes in asset sale percentages every 12 hours XD

zealous ibex
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๐Ÿ˜›

summer jacinth
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I dont know why Epic doesnt let us set our own sale price

zealous ibex
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Really happy they allowed this tho, it kinda supprises me, but I'm pretty happy with it ^^

ebon leaf
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@summer jacinth can't trust sellers... what if they make a profit without first going through all the hoops?! X

summer jacinth
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makes sense!!

zealous ibex
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lol

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wow, ~1.2k assets on sale ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

wooden falcon
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I swear some people jacked up their regular price just to make it seem like the sale % was good

zealous ibex
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Hm, I should have done that ๐Ÿค”

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lol, nah, $7.50 is a pretty nice sale price...I'd better make sure I sell a ton of units tho, as this leaves me with ~$5 in actual revenue per sale once epic takes their cut

carmine dove
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haha

summer jacinth
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Yeah a lot of my stuff isnt on a huge percent sale

wooden falcon
summer jacinth
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since most of it is like $10, and then Id be making maybe 50%, which is not a ton

zealous ibex
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Why are tweets so small? 140 chars is way too little to do your marketing ๐Ÿ˜›

summer jacinth
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market with a picture

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and a text link

zealous ibex
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Hm smart idea ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

wooden falcon
zealous ibex
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Oh my....this image is so fudged up lol, it'll have to do ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

ebon leaf
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@wooden falcon I'm very disappointed in myself that I don't have that raptor ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

zealous ibex
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They are pretty cool dino's tho ๐Ÿค”

wooden falcon
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That's like finding out Mickey Mouse is owned by Nickolodean or something

ebon leaf
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Oh shit... he's on to us boys

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XD

wooden falcon
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holy shit, all of Low Entry's plugins got expensive

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I seem to remember them being $5

zealous ibex
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Yeah same here, but maybe support got hard?

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He's got a ton of plugin, so I can't really blame him

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Anyway, I remember the same, but some of them have become 3/4+x as expensive for my feeling. I could be wrong tho

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He has ~8 or so plugins right? All of those need to be updated each and every release, and he needs to support all of them, which can't be easy & has to take a lot of time, so it could be he jacked up the price so he could do the marketplace full-time? No clue tho, all I can really say is that I really respect his work ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

real dust
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That raptor is so horrible

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It's trying so hard to be scientifically accurate

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And then even its basic anatomy is fucked

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Not to mention it's just kind of crap

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(And it's not a bloody raptor, actually, despite him saying so in the title, as he also says it's supposed to be a Dromaeosaurus)

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Typing typing

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@ebon leaf What were you typing? xD

zealous ibex
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woohoo! I'm finally doing this thing that all marketplace creators seem to do ๐Ÿค” Using their signature to link their products ๐Ÿ˜›

ebon leaf
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@real dust ?? I'm trying to sleep and my compute rhas been off for like 20 minutes lol

zealous ibex
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Bummer your old posts don't update tho FeelsBetaMan

real dust
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Lol xD

ebon leaf
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On the bright side... your message let me know that my phone wasn't on silent so... that's helpful

real dust
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Sorry for the tag, then

zealous ibex
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lol, have a good night I guess? ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

real dust
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xD

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Sleep well ๐Ÿ˜›

ebon leaf
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Lol. Night.

wooden falcon
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thanks for the retweet @rare lynx!

rare lynx
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@wooden falcon No prob!

tender flame
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I have an idea that many sellers won't like, but buyers definitely will:
Force discount on deprecated packages
As example if current UE version is 4.16, but asset only supported by 4.15.
MP forces a discount, say 20%. If asset is for 4.14 (2 versions difference) it's 40%.
Max discount wil be 80% for the version that supported by 4.12 (4.11 will have same discount - 80%, and not 100% =))
Each minor version released by Epic once per 4 months. I think that's a plenty of time. 1 year till price will be dropped by 60%.

real dust
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Yeah, I do think that that's a good oine

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And along with it a disclaimed: "On sale due to deprecation since 4.x"

wooden falcon
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would certainly be an incentive to update, but doubt Epic would like to forgo profits

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course, would probably result in more sales, so they probably wouldn't have to

tender flame
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@wooden falcon My idea was people won't buy assets cause they are deprecated

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@wooden falcon also, it's not that hard to port an asset to newer version. Except some programming cases.

vapid tundra
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hmm an forced discount isn't the best way imho . Better would be Epic Staff contacting the seller and give'em an time to update the item or said item will be removed.

tender flame
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@vapid tundra then, just auto disable the item once it's version is deprecated and send an info ? but what if seller have no intention of updating one, but agree on discount?

delicate dove
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sounds good hehe

vapid tundra
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I would just take the item of the marketplace if it doesnt work on current engine version.

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but thats just my opinon. I'm not epic staff hehe

grave ibex
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No - this would create market confusion selling things that simply don't work, and not everyone upgrades to the newest version, someone might want the plugin on an older version for their game that stopped taking upgrades at 4.14, and for them it's still worth full value.

tender flame
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@vapid tundra not everyone uses current version, some devs using 4.15 or older

vapid tundra
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True.

delicate dove
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@grave ibex rule states though that packages should be kept up to date or they will be removed. but they arent enforcing their own rules.

tender flame
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@grave ibex um, MP still selling deprecated assets, no?

grave ibex
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I don't know, not on marketplace team

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just giving you my opinion

tender flame
grave ibex
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Yeah?

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A lot of assets don't even need to be upgraded, and reallistically are never deprecated, like textures and materials

rare lynx
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I think the reason packs like that are up there is because the marketplace is manual labor. If there were automation, they could do something like making it where assets are not publicly listed if they aren't updated to the latest version after the 30 day period. Updating the product would allow it to be publicly listed again.

tender flame
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@grave ibex yeah...this would create market confusion selling things that simply don't work

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@grave ibex seems like no one checking if they are now...see no contadiction

grave ibex
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We have people that check, but it is a manual process

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and there's a lota assets ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

rare lynx
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@grave ibex is correct though, plenty of packs on there do not require seller assistance in updating. I've only had to send in files for a compatibility upgrade once, and that was just to adjust the lighting to new UE4 standards. Nothing ever broke in any of my packages.

fervent berry
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Hey! does anyone saw any good low-poly cartoon-style rpg/fantasy characters for top-down view? (I know it's pretty specific request, but maybe...)

zealous ibex
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There's also things like your MP asset not actually updating

grave ibex
zealous ibex
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I pressed versions is compatible with 4.16 probably a month ago, but it was somehow on 4.13-4.15 today? ๐Ÿค”

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(I used the update function again and it seemed to work this time, I guess I'll have to verify that the update actually worked next time)

tender flame
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@zealous ibex well, ofc the issues like that need to be solved first, also, maybe some autoconversion for the assets that does support that?

fervent berry
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@grave ibex thanks but all those are environment, no?

zealous ibex
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Doubt that'd work, there isn't really a way to automate engine upgrade verification to my knowledge

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So the burdon is on the sellers, which is fair

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I just really hate that it somehow didn't update? ๐Ÿค”

tender flame
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@zealous ibex that was my initial idea, it's not that hard to do, just make it once and everyone is happy

zealous ibex
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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

grave ibex
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If there are an abandoned section of the store, completely sepreate i think it would be alright

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but it wouldnt be something id ever show in the normal search results

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you'd have to go to the clearence section store

zealous ibex
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It's always such a bummer to see abandoned assets ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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So much potential, but no updates...meaning all we can really do to keep them "running" is contribute suggestions to forum posts

grave ibex
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But having a clearence section of the store, the quality of the abandonment would need to be determined a different way than version drift

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e.g. something that broke in 4.14 is probably just as broken 4 versions later

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the break might also be trivial

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the buyer would hav no idea how broken it was going to be

zealous ibex
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And what about assets specifically created for older versions? eg. for example the UMG blurr thing before it got aded to the engine (poor guy). It'd be unfair to force those on sale...for no real reason I'd guess

delicate dove
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you cannot really expect people to download any ue4 version thats needed to move the content over to later engine versions though.

grave ibex
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Was there a blur widget?

zealous ibex
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Yeah I think so

delicate dove
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still is afaik

zealous ibex
delicate dove
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poor flakky hehe

zealous ibex
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It's still pretty relevant for a user who is stuck on 4.14 because their project breaks while upgrading, so forcing a sale on something like this, because it's "old" isn't really fair

delicate dove
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then again, poor manny with instalod and a few versions later ue4 releases their own

viral zinc
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Yeah someone released the widget of blur after see the stream of new features just before the 4.15 release

zealous ibex
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They're stealing the content of our MP items I say kappa FeelsRageMan

delicate dove
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the thought makes sense for something 4.14. but in a year or so that sentiment is different ofcourse

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if the pack is still 4.14 its getting more.. odd

zealous ibex
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Not really, aren't some ue4 games still rocking 4.3 or smth?

delicate dove
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unless they heavily edit the engine, most clients Ive had so far try to keep the engine up to date for performance reasons.

zealous ibex
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Hm true

grave ibex
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new versions so much better than old versions mmm ^_^

tidal relic
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would hope so ๐Ÿ˜› wouldnt make sense if you were slowly making it worse XD

zealous ibex
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๐Ÿ˜›

delicate dove
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well, im not gonna mention anything 4.12 up to 4.15 though <_<

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with 4.13 being a horror show

tender flame
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@grave ibex what about bugless releases? will be any?

delicate dove
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oh you are using cascade? CRASH

zealous ibex
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4.13 is the oldest version I support

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& I can't even submit 4.13 versions for my plugins

tidal relic
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whats bugless? is anything truely bugless?

grave ibex
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How would we do it?

zealous ibex
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(they limit you to 3 versions, so 4.16, 4.15 & 4.14)

vapid tundra
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<- still on a custom version based on 4.9.x ๐Ÿ˜›

zealous ibex
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๐Ÿ˜›

delicate dove
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ive been on 4.11 till this week <_<

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4.16 feels smooth

zealous ibex
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RIP

tender flame
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@grave ibex sorry, i mean, do not implement new bugs to the old features...

grave ibex
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4.17 way better than 4.16

wooden falcon
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I only submit my Bone Box for 4.9...I had a user request it once, because he couldn't move his game to 4.10

zealous ibex
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I have 4.13-4.16 installed on my other computer, I actually don't have any ue4 versions installed on my main computer tho ๐Ÿค” Dang you compile times!

tender flame
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@grave ibex Luos was asking, will there be Niagara?

grave ibex
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Yes

delicate dove
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<_<

zealous ibex
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Like.....>11h to compile ue4 so it can run on my linux machine? I'll take using the old computer for updating my packs lol

viral zinc
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The 4.16 isn't giving problems ? lots of regresions from what I see compared to 4.15

delicate dove
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imma hold you to that Nick :p

zealous ibex
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lol

tidal relic
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hehe

grave ibex
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i talk to the guys every day working on it

tidal relic
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hows it going?

delicate dove
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i bother Olaf a loooot as well :p

grave ibex
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they're writing some code, particles be moving

tender flame
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@grave ibex it's not possible to PR new feature to 4.17 on this stage ? have to wait till 4.18?

viral zinc
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nope

grave ibex
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We're in preview builds for 4.17. new feature development stopped about a month ago

viral zinc
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after the versions gets branch

wooden falcon
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they ever fix your payment issue Luos?

zealous ibex
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PRs take quite a while to process too, so 4.17 may quite well be out before it even gets approved

delicate dove
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@wooden falcon should be solved in a few days yea

grave ibex
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Niagra is going very well, i've seen some really impressive stuff

wooden falcon
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cool

delicate dove
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As Olaf says, everything is better

wooden falcon
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I still remember the days of Unreal 1, with c0mpile's particle system mod

viral zinc
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We are talking about this in Marketplace ?

grave ibex
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Well Olaf is just doing the runtime bits, the real work is all about the tools

stark zinc
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So, who will be the first to do a niagara pack for the MP? ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

zealous ibex
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Luos ๐Ÿ˜›

stark zinc
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Not if I beat him to it ๐Ÿ˜›

viral zinc
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Nick do you work in the new "BSP" tools ?

grave ibex
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^_^

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no

delicate dove
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i got all the meshes set up for one pack, just need niagara hehe

zealous ibex
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O.o, it'll be the space race all over again

tender flame
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@grave ibex and why we didn't??? I demand a showreel!

wooden falcon
#

speaking of MP related stuff, are there any packs that add in the underwater effect and movement?

tidal relic
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the new mesh tools sound very cool

tender flame
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why are we talking on #fab?

zealous ibex
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When will ue4 be c++1z? kappa I have a project that I'd love to release, but it relies on some c++17 specific stuff ๐Ÿ˜›

grave ibex
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b/c

delicate dove
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because of you alex :p

grave ibex
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@tender flame How would we do a bugfix release?

zealous ibex
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(sorry for going even more off-topic ^^)

vapid tundra
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@wooden falcon theres one pack about swimming stuff AFAIK. if thats of any use for you.

tender flame
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@delicate dove ok, "still" talking here ๐Ÿ˜›

viral zinc
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Move to general or lounge for random talks

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XD

grave ibex
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fine.

wooden falcon
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lol, Epic guy starts talking, and we drive him off

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this is why we can't have nice things

zealous ibex
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lol, yeah, we should support epic talk ๐Ÿ˜›

tender flame
delicate dove
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poor Nick

viral zinc
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I not said it because him, plus I'm not mod or nothing here

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we always the people get all what I say wrong

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keep here

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:p

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just saying probably general conversaions of the engine is better in other channel

tender flame
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pats @grave ibex

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*pat-pat

delicate dove
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k peeps, move along nothing to see here

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:p

viral zinc
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don't touch nick, that is the only that fight for us

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:p

wooden falcon
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MP on the ball...sent an email saying one of my packs didn't get put on the sale, and an hour or two later, fixed

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oddly enough, they said they'd put one of my packs on sale twice...didn't notice while crawling through the pages

wooden falcon
#

anybody get anything good on the sale?

delicate dove
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I might buy a looot of @silver moat content if I get my money before the sale ends.

real dust
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Link to Ali's marketplace profile?

zealous ibex
#

Yeah noticed the same @wooden falcon. Pretty awesome :)

real dust
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@wooden falcon THere were a few assets in the pages listed more than once

merry totem
#

Has anyone here done a damage indicator hud for first person shooters?

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I can almost swear I have seen this on the market place

summer jacinth
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Ive done one

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But its not on the marketplace

merry totem
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damn because I would buy one right now ๐Ÿ˜›

gaunt flicker
#

I suppose I could submit my system to the marketplace

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

merry totem
#

That would save me some decent time to get one already setup I can just migrate in

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All I need is for it to accept floating point variables. The screen flash with directional indicator and for the edges of the screen to become more red as my health goes down

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Something dirt simple like that would be pretty nice for what I need right now.

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I am kind of surprised this isnt already on the market place

summer jacinth
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If I recall, It was actually something super easy to do

merry totem
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Yeah its not really all that crazy to do, I will just need to spend time to make it this week

summer jacinth
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Basically get players camera forward vector, compare it to the damage vector, transform that into 2d screen coordinates, and then enable an indicator when it happens

merry totem
#

Yeah it doesnt seem all that crazy.

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would still be worth 5-10 bucks for a basic one to have that I can just hook in

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If either of you decide to put one of these up on the market place in a simple form let me know ill buy it right away

real dust
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I could do it, but ya know

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Market place waiting times are insane

merry totem
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Yeah but this is some basic stuff. I am shocked its not already on the market place lol

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It might need to happen just for completion sake

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lol

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like seriously

real dust
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Well, if I did it and submitted it it'd be a month before it's on there ๐Ÿ˜›

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(At least?)

merry totem
#

damn I need to get my game in as complete a condition as humanly possible within the next month

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I am looking on getting it up on steam ect. So I guess I will have to make my own damage screen ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

real dust
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I saw Luos' particle-a-day thing today

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ANd was like

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"My god, I need this in my life"

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Except I don't have an excuse to buy it ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

merry totem
#

Yeah that does look really cool

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And I cant use it either lol

kind viper
#

Im getting a lot of weapon packs this week! Had them in my cart for months, but they got some steep discounts now.

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Was lucky and got my poly pixel packs on sale a few weeks ago directly on their site too

delicate dove
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aww thanks.

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there is a version with more than double the content sitting on my computer waiting for a reply from the mp team. 18 days and counting but they just dont reply

scarlet wave
#

@delicate dove That is a sad staatement, at some point, one would think that someone at Epic would care, if nothing else from a PR point of view if nothing else. A shame, that Steph isn't as available as much, but there are priorities in life, and a baby is certainly much higher on that list, than anything here

delicate dove
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true :)
though every time steph steps in she is moving mountains.

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we should call em stephsteps

scarlet wave
#

@delicate dove chuckles @ stephsteps, so very true. Fixing things right and left, makes one think of the little boy sticking his fingers in the dike, and then wondering where everyone else's fingers are......

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(I will leave it up to the reader to guess where the other thumbs are! lmao)

delicate dove
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just got an email to send the files over for the re-vamped version of the particle a day pack.
whooo

wooden falcon
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cool!

wooden falcon
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I don't think things are going to work out like he hoped

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that's only like, $0.52 after Epic's cut

humble stag
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Its a code plugin that has not been updated since 4.14, seems like you can manually move plugin and re-compile it, but I would prefer if I did not need that. I rather buy it at full price when I need it and know it is up to date with with latest engine. I dont think those low prices are sustainable for support. He should really consider to patch up his assets and raise the price. It could be a good product, but at 5$ base price it does not "feel" like a solid asset. And I rather pay 15-20$ for it if I know the creator will give the minimum support of keeping it up to date. The Vega Threading asset seems cool if I know I can still use next year.

gaunt flicker
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I miss real time sales data

humble stag
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Updated sales numbers in about 20 minutes? I think. (At least on my end)

gaunt flicker
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I mean

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As a seller

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Seeing what sales have occured for your products

humble stag
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Its not "necessary", but I do agree it would be cool to see the numbers go up during these events.

gaunt flicker
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Aye, its more of the fact that we had it but it was removed xD

humble stag
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I admit I sometimes refreshed it a bit too often when we had live sales data.

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I think the reason they removed it is still a bit odd. That it put too much strain on their servers.

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Might be a bit unoptimized calls to the database causing it. And instead of improving it, it was faster to disable it.

gaunt flicker
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Aye

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Similar to your web scraping, I have a server that has been doing that for almost two years now

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Thousands of requests

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You'd figure they'd be blocking that instead

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

humble stag
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Yeah, xD. Mine updates 4 times a day. That means I do about 19200 server calls every day to read all data. I'll make fewer updates or stop it if epic request me to.

gaunt flicker
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Aye, when I wrote my server that was my thinking

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"I'll stop if they ask"

fleet garnet
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while there is already a discussion, how much traffic can one webserver with a database survive in a game scenario before becoming unusable?

humble stag
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With my limited knowledge, that depends on how much memory every request require, how intensive the database calls are, and how good cache system you have set up.

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In other words, you got to stress test your system and see where it starts to struggle.

fleet garnet
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Right now I have one webserver, I use it for both my website and my game, website has almost 1k requests per day so I know it can survive that much

humble stag
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Yeah, that is about a request every 3 sec on average. That is a very light load. Set up a second computer to throw 100 requests at it every second and then see if it starts chugging.

gaunt flicker
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Answering that even relies on the core tech your server is built on

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I.e. a vanilla nodejs rest api app will crap out sooner than something optimized for it

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Though node is pretty damn good

humble stag
wanton narwhal
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So how long will this sale last?

humble stag
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It ends 1th of August

gaunt flicker
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Does it really?

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Holy shit

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I did not think the sale would last that long

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I might need to send an email

delicate dove
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RTFM :p

gaunt flicker
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Yeah I totally just saw the email subject and was like 'do whatever'

delicate dove
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but yea,you might have dropped the priceball on that

humble stag
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QUICK, HOARD ALLAR ASSETS

delicate dove
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if anything, get linter :p
makes life much easier

humble stag
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But yeah, that reminds me. I want linter too

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xD

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ninjaed myself

gaunt flicker
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Some warning though

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If you submit an mp asset and you adhere to Linter standards

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Make sure to note it

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Not to the public

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I mean note it to epic staff

delicate dove
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i mostly use it for renaming all the things.

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but yea what allar said

rustic siren
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what's Linter

gaunt flicker
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You can note it to the public, thats cool

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But if you don't tell Epic you're using my style guide, good chance you're going to get hit with a content layout issue

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Since I and the guidelines disagree on a critical issue

rustic siren
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yeaaa.. about that

humble stag
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Eeeh, the asset I have now is following the ue4.style. Might be one or two things lacking, but it is really close to the document.

ebon leaf
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Do epic take that as a good enough reason? I would have thought they'd be like "too bad. Change it"

livid crater
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we were using these prefixes and we got asked to change it all ๐Ÿ˜ญ

rustic siren
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@ebon leaf yep, dealing with Adam atm, he has his own guidelines that are not even live on their website

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including his own naming conventions out of his ass

gaunt flicker
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Woah what

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Guidelines don't specify prefixes

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The fuck

ebon leaf
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@rustic siren honestly, this is nothing new =p the public guidelines are always out of date lol

humble stag
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I am really enjoying the ue4.style prefixes, makes it easier to deal with customer support

rustic siren
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well he denied one of my packs purely just because of prefxies

gaunt flicker
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@livid crater Any chance can you send me a list of bad prefixes?

rustic siren
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which were like your linter

gaunt flicker
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95% of my prefixes come from Epic

rustic siren
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@gaunt flicker M_ cannot be used for materials, Apparantly you have to use MAT_ now

gaunt flicker
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WHAT

ebon leaf
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Also not new -.- epic like being pedantic beyond reason. Except when they don't bother at all lol

humble stag
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For confusing assets, you also have to prefix it WHAT_

gaunt flicker
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Epic doesn't even use MAT_ 95% of the time

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At least for public facing assets

rustic siren
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Adam uses it

ebon leaf
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Remember kids - inconsistency is key

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Lol @ mat...

rustic siren
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well I was suprised just as anyone

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but hey, got declined solely on that

gaunt flicker
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Do you have to use TEXT_ for textures too?

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<_<

ebon leaf
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Lol I wish I was even a little surprised by this

rustic siren
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@gaunt flicker Suprisingly T_ was enough

delicate dove
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@rustic siren refuse to do that

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really, hold your ground

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because thats utter and utter bs

rustic siren
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too late

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that was months ago

delicate dove
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Y U NO TELL US

rustic siren
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They are declining my other pack now because I don't use Epic skeleton, and my reasoning is because I inluced my own skeleton with face rig

gaunt flicker
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Omfg I'm literally trying to throw money at face rigs

rustic siren
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and 140 animations

delicate dove
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O_o again sigh..

ebon leaf
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Lol. I can't even think of a witty joke reason this time XD

rustic siren
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funny thing is, I submitted it 2 months ago, they came back and told me , its need to be on epic skeleton, I stood my ground, gave them my reasoning and they were.

All right we are moving on with your submission.
This week (2 months later) they came back to me again, with same story, Needs to be under epic skeleton

ebon leaf
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Yeah. Rules are more important than logic lol

gaunt flicker
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I understand the rule if the character has no face bones

livid crater
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it's more like they were ok with it two months ago and changed their mind or forgot

gaunt flicker
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But if the character has face bones....

rustic siren
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Kinda feel like i should just copy paste my previous email 2 months ago, though they migth get an idea that I am mocking them

delicate dove
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well in all fairness, I wouldnt blame you

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i'd also CC stephanie if i where you.

rustic siren
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thinking about it

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but first adhering to other things

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oh also have to cut out some of my animations

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as they are "offensive" ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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its illegal to flip a finger in animations ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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heh and here I remember the days when I Hitler swinging his nuts was acceptable ๐Ÿ˜„

livid crater
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that might've caused them to implement that rule actually

gaunt flicker
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Yeah, Hitler ruined it for everyone

sullen lion
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MAT_

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BLUEPRINT-COMPONENT_

humble stag
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UE4_MAT_Texture

rustic siren
gaunt flicker
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Yeah, I remember xD

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Didn't he end up removing the red sleeve and his moustach?

livid crater
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i think the red sleeve stayed, had to remove the symbol though

rustic siren
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had to remove the symbol

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and rename him to "Fuhrer"

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oh and remove rude animations too

gaunt flicker
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Well, to be fair

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If I was running a marketplace

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I'm not selling Hitler

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

livid crater
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they accepted it ๐Ÿ˜„

rustic siren
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^

sullen lion
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if you were running a marketplace, it'd be better

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argument invalid

gaunt flicker
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Nah, I'd have QC issues

rustic siren
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Well I can get behind them asking to remove that

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but maaaan, use epic skeleton and scrap all the facial animations

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that's just sad

gaunt flicker
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Did you modify Epic's skeleton or did you simply add face bones?

sullen lion
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Gotta be able to use it with 100% other anims out there

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with no effort

gaunt flicker
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There are plenty of characters that don't use the skeleton because it'd be unrealistic for them to

livid crater
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well this character has unusually large hands and a bulky build, he used his own skeleton

gaunt flicker
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You need to remake your character

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in the form of a duck

livid crater
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๐Ÿ˜ฑ

rustic siren
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oh yeah this legend

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doesn't beat the unicorn though

gaunt flicker
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All bones have suffix _

delicate dove
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hehe

rustic siren
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they did not like dis animation ๐Ÿ˜„

gaunt flicker
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If I had a world of that art style, I'd buy it <_<

delicate dove
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just sell em seperately on gumroad or so

gaunt flicker
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Nah

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Make that anim a free download

rustic siren
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gonna email em for free to anyone who buys the pack ๐Ÿ˜„

delicate dove
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even better :p

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you cant

gaunt flicker
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Add a link to it on your product page

delicate dove
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you wont be getting any email adresses from people who buy your stuff

humble stag
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Just release it for free. Its good PR

livid crater
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oh dear

gaunt flicker
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Want to contact your customers? You can't

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Want to verify someone is a customer?

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Wait 1-7 business days

rustic siren
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yeah that

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if anyone contacted me I just helped

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felt super rude to ask for invoice

gaunt flicker
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Invoices can be faked

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I've had a few people with fake invoices ask for lots of help

rustic siren
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in fact most of them just asked the same thing anyways, so I just quick photoshoped a tutorial slideshow how to do shit

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90% customers satisfied

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bastards could not leave a rating on mp page tho ๐Ÿ˜’

gaunt flicker
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Often times someone would have an issue, I'd say "Please download the latest version through the launcher and tell me if its an issue there"

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They'd immediately reply with "oh I fixed it thx"

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Or more annoyingly

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They'll claim they got the latest version but clearly didn't and only when you press them about it they say their launcher doesn't work

rustic siren
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hmm

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another fun issue

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is if your models have holes

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have to admit, they had to look really hard to spot that one

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that's the hole

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where leg ends / shorts start

gaunt flicker
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That is definitely not the worst offending thing on the mp

humble stag
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Is this not common to do? (Nvm, the rest of it is connected)

gaunt flicker
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But I'd say thats valid feedback from them

rustic siren
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yeah, this is the one I am complying with

gaunt flicker
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Unfortunately you can't assume customers don't want to scale your mesh up 1000x and look up at it

ebon leaf
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XD

worn oyster
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ppl might wunn remove the skel to make a statue of it, have it a destructable

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it will bork with a hole in it

delicate dove
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first summer-sale data is in for us sellers

gaunt flicker
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Not for me :0

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either that or I sold 0 units

delicate dove
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or linter broke it

rustic siren
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ha got a sale

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ffx Success tune

delicate dove
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i like how active #fab is around sales.

rustic siren
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almost feel like at least like 50% of buyers actually buy in sales periods exclusively

humble stag
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I would get an asset at full price if I need it, but I buy more during sales since some assets could be nice to have.

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But yeah, some wait exclusively to buy during sale.

delicate dove
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some do, people who pirate mp content also tend to buy more during salrs to get the tools officially. (and others to share em unofficially)

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but thats a topic for another time

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is off to bed

real dust
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What scraphead said

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Stuff I need I get whenever

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Stuff I want I get on sale

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Most things, I want, but don't need

fleet garnet
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Holy sh** sale report just appeared

gaunt flicker
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I must have legit made 0 sales then

ebon leaf
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I doubt that @gaunt flicker ... I know like 10 people who said they are gonna buy air drop because of the price atm alone XD

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protip: you gotta hit refresh ๐Ÿ˜‚

gaunt flicker
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BOI I'VE BEEN HITTING REFRESH

ebon leaf
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XD

gaunt flicker
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I wonder if Epic has a server process somewhere

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Slowly building seller reports

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If so, it means it takes at least an hour to generate all seller reports

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That, or again I made 0 sales

ebon leaf
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I'd be legitimately surprised if you got 0

leaden root
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Everyone probably owns all of allars crap

gaunt flicker
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Is there anyone else without an updated sales report

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:p

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And/or possibly 0 sales

wooden falcon
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i don't have an updated report yet

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usually don't until about 11 PM here (central time, US)

gaunt flicker
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Ayee

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I'm ready to see 100 units sold

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Profit: $7

wooden falcon
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lol

gaunt flicker
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Er actually

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100 units sold

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$35

ebon leaf
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yeah but it's all about that exposure man... really THEY should be charging YOU for this ๐Ÿ˜‚

summer jacinth
#

Still gotta wait another 30 mins

wooden falcon
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yah, me too

summer jacinth
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Not a bad amount of sales today, no where near the Black Friday sale though

wooden falcon
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I still don't see them :/

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oh well, I'll check in the morning

leaden root
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I dont think itll ever beat the black friday sale

ebon leaf
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Black Friday was only one day though so that makes sense

zealous kelp
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yeah im still using the shit out of that $1 3gb music pack

zealous ibex
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Yeah that one is insane

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I bought it in the last hge sale, great pack โค

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Anyone checked if youtube flags the songs? I've heard that formed a problem for some games' sound assets

heady moth
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Sales report aren't instant, but it always starts at 2AM Brussels time

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They do generate over minutes times as it goes over all purchases

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but I always have them by 2:06 latest

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I think it depends on the amount of sales made

delicate dove
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people on forums:
"Would it be possible for some enterprising person to dive into the engine code and replicate the previous bloom/tonemapper iteration and sell it as some kind of plugin on the marketplace? Or is how post-processing works too distributed/fundamental to the guts of the engine?"

Not kidding, looking at how many people go boooo on the new tonemapper/bloomstuff.. it might generate some sales.

swift musk
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Didn't they say you could renable that with a console command ? If that's the case, quickest plugin ever!

delicate dove
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you can set the tonemapper back, but the old bloom and some other small tweaks you cant

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so even when you reset it, it wont look the same as before

swift musk
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Aaah , I see

oak thistle
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I don't know how this particular stuff works, but for the most part changing core rendering code from a plugin is pretty much impossible.

carmine dove
#

not bad, 10 packs sold

zealous ibex
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Nice

silver moat
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It seems to be the new trend.

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Cant wait for the next sales stats to come it. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

fleet garnet
#

I would not give them a refund, they knew a sale was coming...

autumn perch
#

Winter and sale arrived almost in same time lol :D

wooden falcon
#

9 sales, blah

zealous ibex
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Not bad

wooden falcon
#

and no sales of the one they mistakenly didn't add until halfway through the day

zealous ibex
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:(

wooden falcon
#

probably cause people already went through the list and weren't going to go through again :/

zealous ibex
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Bummer man

wooden falcon
#

oh well, at least the sale goes on for awhile

delicate dove
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they might a few days before sale ends just to be sure they got everything they need, but yea it sucks

wooden falcon
#

at least this sale doesn't count towards a pack's sale days limit

zealous ibex
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Yup that's pretty nice

wooden falcon
#

so how did your sale go HowToCompute?

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I bought your inv system, btw...still need to download and check it out, but it looks cool

zealous ibex
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Thanks man โค

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It went pretty well, sold 3 units which is an improvement over usual sales (which are generally low due to it being a pretty competitive market. I may be the cheapest, but there are so many inventory systems out there. Each does seem to excel at something compared to the rest tho, so I guess it comes down to what you need for your project ๐Ÿ˜ƒ )

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I submitted 3 plugins tho, which should hopefully help me spread into areas that aren't quite as competitive / have a wider audience ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

wooden falcon
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well, you get a 5 star rating from me. Once I get to check it out, I'll write a review comment

zealous ibex
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๐Ÿ˜› Don't give me that 5 star rating if you haven't checked it out. If I messed something up, I don't deserve it ๐Ÿ˜›

wooden falcon
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oh, I can always change it ๐Ÿ˜‰

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sort of like how assholes go to restaurants and go "Here's a big tip in the middle of the table...if you screw up, I keep removing dollars"

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j/k

zealous ibex
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๐Ÿ˜›

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I'll probably grab your utility materials pack near the end of the sales too, need to figure out a wierd paypal issue I'm having first tho ๐Ÿค”

wooden falcon
#

besides, judging by your current rating, I'm sure it's probably a 5 star anyways

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cool! don't feel obligated though ๐Ÿ˜ƒ I've been meaning to get your inventory system for awhile

zealous ibex
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Ofcourse ๐Ÿ˜ƒ But there are some really awesome materials I could use for prototyping ๐Ÿ˜ƒ Everything is better than white boxes if you're trying to get feedback from non-gamedev friends ^^

wooden falcon
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true

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so disappointing that the duck and unicorn aren't on sale

zealous ibex
#

lol, they're still on the MP?

wooden falcon
#

are they making so much that the authors are like "Sale, pffftt"

zealous ibex
#

Yeah, way too high quality to put 'em on sale FeelsKCHHHH

wooden falcon
#

also picked up a few packs for research purposes

zealous ibex
#

Yup, that's the only reason I'll ever really buy a BP pack...to learn how it's implemented. (well unless it's a really tedious task lol. I'd also buy stuff if that'd save me hours upon hours of tedious work)

delicate dove
#

^ which is why i buy vfx packs. see if i can learn a thing or two

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sadly most of the time their materials are soooo spagetti

zealous ibex
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lol

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Pre-reroute node days I guess

delicate dove
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nah worse than just no reroute nodes hehe

wooden falcon
#

it had such a nice picture, I thought "Hey, nice meshes!"

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it's a sound pack :/

delicate dove
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hehe been there, clicked that